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Planning & Zoning

Planning & Zoning Board / Local Planning Agency Meeting

Date
2025-04-02
Status
Draft minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #98
Built from draft minutes printed in an agenda packet — no AI-written text Briefing final

The City's record

What the City's record shows

Draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2025-05-07, pp. 9–13; approved as written by the Planning & Zoning Board according to the draft minutes of 2025-05-07, whose own approval is recorded in later draft minutes but not yet confirmed in the City's approved minutes. The City has not posted the approved minutes as a separate file. The approving motion, “to APPROVE THE APRIL 2 , 2025, REGULAR MEETING MINUTES AS WRITTEN”, is in the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2025-06-04 agenda packet (1845_6_4_2025_Planning_and_Zoning.pdf, packet pp. 9–14).

Built only from this meeting's draft minutes (1810_Agenda.pdf, packet pp. 9–13). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Wesley Park, Todd Anderson, Ron Chabot, Tamisha Findlay, Aleck Greenwood, Victoria Jones, Katherine Stewart, Marcus Wheeler, Russell Sengel, Joseph Bachand
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines; no independent membership list of this board is available to confirm that the roll is complete.)
  • Absences: the minutes print an “ABSENT” heading with no names under it.
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Kristin Eick (City Attorney)
  • Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: ANDERSON, CHABOT, FINDLAY, GREENWOOD, JONES, PARK, SENGEL, STEWART, WHEELER (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (4)

  • to APPROVE THE APRIL 2, 2025, REGULAR MEETING AGENDA AS WRITTEN (moved by VICECHAIR ANDERSON, seconded by WHEELER); PASSED 9-0; ayes: PARK, ANDERSON, CHABOT, GREENWOOD, FINDLAY, JONES, STEWART, WHEELER, SENGEL; nays: none — the draft minutes, packet pp. 9–13
  • to APPROVE THE MARCH 5 , 2025, REGULAR MEETING MINUTES (moved by CHABOT, seconded by WHEELER); PASSED 9-0; ayes: PARK, ANDERSON, CHABOT, GREENWOOD, FINDLAY, JONES, STEWART, WHEELER, SENGEL; nays: none — the draft minutes, packet pp. 9–13
  • to APPROVE THE STAFF REQUEST FOR THE MICHAEL C. BLAKE SUBDIVISION (moved by JONES, seconded by GREENWOOD); PASSED 9-0; ayes: PARK, ANDERSON, CHABOT, GREENWOOD, FINDLAY, JONES, STEWART, WHEELER, SENGEL; nays: none — the draft minutes, packet pp. 9–13
  • to ADJOURN THE MEETING (moved by PARK, seconded by ANDERSON); PASSED 9-0; ayes: PARK, ANDERSON, CHABOT, GREENWOOD, FINDLAY, JONES, STEWART, WHEELER, SENGEL; nays: none — the draft minutes, packet pp. 9–13

Draft minutes, as printed in a later agenda packet

Draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2025-05-07, pp. 9–13; approved as written by the Planning & Zoning Board according to the draft minutes of 2025-05-07, whose own approval is recorded in later draft minutes but not yet confirmed in the City's approved minutes. The City has not posted the approved minutes as a separate file.

Source: 1810_Agenda.pdf, the agenda packet of the 2025-05-07 meeting, packet pp. 9–13; lines 249–472 of the City's text of that file. The packet's own page footers are left out below.

Read the draft minutes 
MINUTES 
CITY OF COCOA 
PLANNING & ZONING BOARD/ LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY 
REGULAR MEETING 
April 2, 2025 
 
A Regular meeting of the Planning & Zoning Board Local Planning Agency was held 
on April 2, 2025, at City Hall, 65 Stone Street, Cocoa, FL, as publicly noted. 
 
I. CALL TO ORDER: 
 
Chairperson Park called the meeting to order at 6:02PM. 
 
ROLL CALL:  
 
Wesley Park     Chairperson 
Todd Anderson  Vice Chairperson 
Ron Chabot   Board Member  
Tamisha Findlay  Board Member  
Aleck Greenwood  Board Member 
Victoria Jones   Board Member 
Katherine Stewart  Board Member 
Marcus Wheeler  Board Member  
Russel Sengel   Board Member 
Joseph Bachand   2nd Alternate 
Kristin Eick   City Attorney  
 
PRESENT:   
Wesley Park     Chairperson 
Todd Anderson  Vice Chairperson 
Ron Chabot   Board Member  
Tamisha Findlay  Board Member  
Aleck Greenwood  Board Member 
Victoria Jones   Board Member 
Katherine Stewart  Board Member 
Marcus Wheeler  Board Member  
Russell Sengel   Board Member  
Joseph Bachand   2nd Alternate  
Kristin Eick   City Attorney  
 
ABSENT:  
   
    
STAFF PRESENT: 
 
 


        Planning & Zoning Board 
Regular Meeting 
April 2, 2025 
Page 2 of 5 
 
Breanna Earley, Recording Secretary;  Jennifer Webster, City Planner; Luci Ribero, City 
Planner, Stockton Whitten, City Manager. 
 
Chairperson Park led the assembly in the Pledge of Allegiance. 
 
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA AND MINUTES: 
 
1. AGENDA: Meeting of April 2, 2025 
 
*  MOTION BY VICECHAIR ANDERSON; SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER 
WHEELER TO APPROVE THE APRIL 2, 2025, REGULAR MEETING AGENDA 
AS WRITTEN. 
 
AYES: PARK, ANDERSON, CHABOT, GREENWOOD, FINDLAY, JONES, 
STEWART, WHEELER, SENGEL 
 
 MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY (9-0) 
 
2.   MINUTES:  Regular Meeting of March 5, 2025 
 
*  MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CHABOT; SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER 
WHEELER TO APPROVE THE  MARCH 5 , 2025, REGULAR MEETING 
MINUTES.     
 
AYES: PARK, ANDERSON, CHABOT, GREENWOOD, FINDLAY, JONES, 
STEWART, WHEELER, SENGEL 
 
 MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY (9-0)  
 
III. OLD BUSINESS: 
  
IV. NEW BUSINESS: 
 
1. PZ 2 5-02800001 Michael C. Blake Subdivision – Lennar Homes Development 
Agreement for Affordable Housing 
 
Consideration of a Development Agreement for affordable housing in the Michael C. Blake 
Subdivision in Cocoa, Florida, situated in the Diamond Square Community 
Redevelopment area, affecting approximately 2.83 acres of city -owned property, located 
generally on Mango Avenue, Valencia Avenue, and Blake Avenue between Barbara 
Jenkins Street and Stone Street, for the development of seventeen (17) existing parcels of 
real property into thirty -two (32) affordable, single -family homes with lots not less than 
thirty-seven (37) feet in width and ninety-five (95) feet in depth.  The agreement establishes 
building elevations and floor plans for the future homes and describes development 
schedules and future permitting requirements.   
 


        Planning & Zoning Board 
Regular Meeting 
April 2, 2025 
Page 3 of 5 
 
 
Jennifer Webster, City Planner, presented a PowerPoint about the proposed project1. 
 
Alternate Member Bachand asked about impact fees. 
 
Assistant Attorney Eick explained the city may consider impact fees. It has not been 
decided. The proposal is requesting deviations from the existing code. Mostly regarding 
the widths of the lots, and they will be narrower than what’s required in the district code.  
 
Chairperson Park asked about the cost of utilities . In response, Board Member Wheeler 
stated that the builder utilizes its own mortgage company.   
 
Chairperson Park opened the discussion for questions to the developer.  
 
Board Member Wheeler asked if they would be CBF or frame.  
 
Matthew Pisciotta, Lennar Homes, stated half and half.  
 
Board Member Greenwood spoke about the project. He asked about numbers for selling. 
 
Mr. Pisciotta stated they would be for sale. He stated it was an entry level project. 
 
Board Member Greenwood asked if they are strictly for sale.  In response, Mr. Pisciotta 
stated they were. 
 
Board Member Chabot stated it was a good project. 
 
*  MOTION BY  BOARD MEMBER JONES ; SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER  
GREENWOOD TO APPROVE THE STAFF REQUEST FOR THE MICHAEL C. 
BLAKE SUBDIVISION.     
 
AYES: PARK, ANDERSON, CHABOT, GREENWOOD, FINDLAY, JONES, 
STEWART, WHEELER, SENGEL 
 
 MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY (9-0)  
 
V. TREE BOARD:  
 
Jennifer Webster, City Planner, provided an update about an oak tree that was removed at 
Cocoa High School. She received a message from Abby Morgan, Public Works Director, 
that the school  board confirmed someone evaluated the tree and determined it was 75 
percent dead. She stated a tree in that condition would be exempt from permit.  
 
 
 
1 Exhibit A: Proposed Subdivision Presentation 


        Planning & Zoning Board 
Regular Meeting 
April 2, 2025 
Page 4 of 5 
 
 
Vice Chairperson asked for clarification that it also made it exempt from being approved 
by the board. In response, Ms. Webster confirmed.  
 
Board Member Greenwood gave a history about the Tree Board and its importance.  
 
Board Member Chabot spoke about insurance companies requiring trees to be removed. 
 
Board Member Greenwood acknowledged but would like an effort to replace trees. 
   
VI. OTHER BUSINESS:  
 
Board Member Greenwood spoke about  an “Open Discussion” section  being on the 
agenda. He went on to speak about lime rock and chain-link fencing.  
 
Board Member Stewart asked for clarification. 
 
Board Member Greenwood spoke further about the “Open Discussion” section.  
 
Chairperson Park asked if it was possible to add the “Open Discussion” section. 
 
Assistant Attorney Eick spoke about the new agenda softwar e possibly being the reason 
why it was no longer there. She stated it could be added back.  
 
Vice Chair Anderson clarified the open discussion agenda item. 
 
Board Member Sengel introduced himself and gave his background and experience.  
 
Vice Chair Anderson emphasized Board Member Sengel’s perspective and his history at 
the fire department makes him a valuable Board Member. 
 
VII.  NEXT MEETING DATE: 
 
The next scheduled meeting for the Planning and Zoning Board will be held on Wednesday, 
May 7, 2025, at 6 pm in Cocoa City Hall, 65 Stone St, Cocoa, FL 32922.  
 
VIII.   ADJOURNMENT: 
 
*   MOTION BY  CHAIRPERSON PARK; SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR 
ANDERSON TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. 
 
AYES: PARK, ANDERSON, CHABOT, GREENWOOD, FINDLAY, JONES, 
STEWART, WHEELER, SENGEL 
  
 MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY (9-0)  
  


        Planning & Zoning Board 
Regular Meeting 
April 2, 2025 
Page 5 of 5 
 
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 6:35 PM.  
 
 
 
______________________________ 
Wesley Park, Chairperson  
Respectfully Submitted By: 
 
 
______________________________________ 
Breanna Earley, Recording Secretary

Agenda (the City's wording)

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I. Opening Matters

  • 1. Call to Order
  • 2. Pledge of Allegiance
  • 3. Roll Call

II. Approval of Agenda and Minutes

  • 1. Agenda: Regular Meeting of April 2, 2025.
  • 2. Minutes: Regular Meeting of March 5, 2025.

III. Old Business

IV. New Business

  • 1. PZ 25-02800001 Michael C. Blake Subdivision – Lennar Homes Development Agreement for Affordable Housing

V. Tree Board

VI. Other Business

VII. Next Meeting Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2025

VIII. Adjournment

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city published a request for a request for proposal or RFP for the redevelopment of this property into affordable single family housing to further the Diamond Square Community Redevelopment plan objectives. Which are to
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in the Diamond Square community and the city of Cocoa to create vibrant, sustainable neighborhoods that provide a range of housing options while integrating well with the existing community fabric and to increase partnerships with housing developers. The RFP also stated specific requirements for the developer that they be experienced and well financed, capable of purchasing all identified lots to develop and able to construct affordable housing on all lots within a specified timeframe.
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develop the 17 lots into 32 home sites, each of which would accommodate a two story, approximately 16 foot wide home carefully designed to maximize maximize usable space with sizes ranging from. 1295 square feet to approximately 1700 square feet and would be sold for a maximum sales price, not exceeding the affordable threshold established by
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the time of sale.
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negotiation of a development agreement that establishes guidelines and parameters for the development of this property. The subject parcels are zoned RU 1-7, which is single family residential with ‸ a future land use designation of medium density residential, which allows up to 15 dwelling units per acre. RU 1-7 generally requires larger lot sizes, at least 7,500 square feet with 75 foot minimum widths. However, diamond square already consists of many smaller lots that are nonconforming with many being 50 feet or less in width. Also,
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specifically in diamond square to promote the development of essential housing on currently available small lots as one means of addressing housing needs.
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in accordance with the requirements set forth in the development agreement. The project proposes three different floor plans, each offering three different exterior elevations to achieve architectural diversity and a broader range of choices for residents.
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Staff is currently requesting the developer consider a fourth floor plan to be offered ‸ on the two lots between Temple Street and Barbara Jenkins that offers a bedroom on the first floor.
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these variances will be required to that, all of which will be incorporated into the development agreement. The minimum lot size shall be reduced from 7500 square feet to a minimum of 3515 square feet. The minimum lot width shall be reduced from 75 to 37 feet. The minimum lot depth shall be reduced from 100 feet to 95 feet deep. The maximum lot
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future land use. And there's also the building setbacks defined of a minimum 10 foot rear setback, minimum 20 foot front setback, and a
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and a half foot side setback. so this is the first of three models called the Breeze. And
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materials and a little bit of a varying design on the front elevation. and this is the floor plan for the Breeze, which is the smallest of the three models. It's 1295 square feet, three bedroom, two and a half bath and all of these are ‸ one car garage and all the bedrooms as I mentioned are on the second floor. and
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offered for for this model. Again, varying in the different building materials on the elevation. And here's the floor plan for the Cypress, which is 1524 square feet. Again, a three bedroom and a two and
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which is, again, three elevations with the varying building materials. And the floor plan is the largest of the three at 1684 square feet. This is the four bedroom model, also two and a half bath. so in accordance with section 1521 of the city of Cocoa and
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incorporate several development enhancements to the final site plan. This requires the developer to develop affordable single-family homes, of course
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and the Florida statutes to income qualify all potential buyers to ensure the purchases are classified as very low, low or moderate income persons as defined in section 420 of the Florida statutes that they provide enhanced landscaping fencing and
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of energy efficient building materials and methods in the new homes. So the development agreement aligns with the goals, objectives, and policies of the city of Cocoa comprehensive plans, future land use element and housing element, as well as those of the Diamond Square redevelopment plan, including redevelopment, and promoting vitality and redevelopment of the three community redevelopment areas, and encouraging and promoting the provision of decent, safe, and sanitary housing, the housing supply, energy efficiency, location of housing to provide appropriate locations for very low, low, and moderate income housing, incentives for affordable housing, and finally, infill development. ‸ development agreement agreement agreement
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is still subject to negotiation of some minor points, but it's not anticipated the conceptual development plan or the building plans presented will change, except for the possible addition of that fourth floor plan, and elevation to accommodate the bedroom on the first floor. so therefore staff recommends requests the recommendation of approval to the city council of this development agreement for affordable housing in
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situated in the diamond square community redevelopment area affecting approximately 2.83 acres of city owned property located generally on mango Avenue Valencia Avenue and Blake Avenue
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into 32 of affordable single-family homes with lots not less than 37 feet in width and 95 feet in depth the agreement establishes building elevations and floor plans for the future homes and describes development schedules and future permitting requirements and
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if you have any further questions for them and also I'm happy to answer any questions I can thank you thank you very
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much anybody have any questions for staff
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of waivers what would be the the value of a waiver for a lot in this case when I say a waiver I assume there's an impact fee correct
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kind of a commensurate or coinciding, I guess, upgrading of the amenities or interior of the homes, but that's not been decided at this point. What we're talking about in terms of the waivers or variances are ‸ the proposal is requesting some deviations from the existing code, and primarily the ‸ ones that were ‸ read out, and in particular about the width of the lots, which are going to be substantially, you know, narrower than what is ordinarily required in the district. So those are the variances or waivers that we're talking about, is
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which is the affordable housing a project. Thank you.
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All right. Any other questions? Can I ask, is
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‸ the utilities one, that's probably the hardest one to factor in, and I know that's not exactly what you have to do. I'm just asking the general question of, you know, is that done by some government table of what utilities cost a standard person on the size of the home? Is that what that is?
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I can answer that. The lender through basically the interview for the mortgage process. The builder who subsequently will retain some type of mortgage company and or utilize their own, because they do have one, will do in the interview process
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and associative to your overall 30% aggregate. So to be approved for the loan,
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But the baseline consideration that that's done in the approval process. So
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All right. So I will close this to the board and open it up to the public. And we do have a card. I don't know if it's just in case we have questions, but
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I believe it was in just in case you had questions for for the applicant for the developer.
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Good evening. Good evening, sir. I just have one quick question because it's not
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this proposal. Are these going to be CBF homes or a stick frame? Or is there any is it going to be half and half bottom being CBF and top being stick? Okay. That's my only question. All right.
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Any other questions for the developer?
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You were dead on. I was going to ask that also. Thank you. I think that this is going to be an example that we're going to see more often in the area here as well as other cities.
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And the only way to contradict that, because if they do get ‸ come down any, it's not going to be substantial or equal to what it was before we got into our needs of affordable housing and also smaller structures. This is an example of what we're probably going to see more of. And, um, I think it's a good project from what I've read here. Um, and as
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selling or renting or can people lease or you're going to give options like that or a lease with purchase to buy? Okay.
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In,
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in that kind of range?
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And you're
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advocating these to be strictly for sale, not?
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Yes. Yeah. It's intended as a for sale product.
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Okay. Thank you. I'm sure there's other questions.
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No, no. Thank you. Anyone else?
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right. Thank you, Mr.
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All right. So return it back to the board. Does anybody have anything else they'd like to discuss
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or make
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a motion move for anything?
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Good project and well overdue.
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I want to go ahead and make a recommendation. Yes, ma'am. So I would like to make a recommendation for the staff request for approval to the city council of the development agreement of affordable housing in the Michael C. Blake subdivision. I'll second it.
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Okay. Any further discussion on the item? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Just in case. All right. Motion passes. This year. This year. Yeah, you're right. All right. So we'll move on to item number five, the tree board. Do we have any items that we need to discuss on that? Okay.
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Board members. I actually have a quick update for you. Um, at the last meeting, uh, several of you had inquired about an update for the Oak tree that had been removed over at the, on the,
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Um, so I checked, I went back through my records and actually, um, um, I got a message from Abby Morgan with public works that she had contacted someone at the county at with the the county with the school board and, uh,
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that, um, ‸ an arborist had come out, evaluated the tree. And then someone from the city also evaluated the tree and both determined that it was 75% dead and determined that it needed to be removed. So just, just to say that there was some oversight on that. Um, and, uh, you know, reviewing the, the code on the, um, on the requirements and exemptions, uh,
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‸ So.
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Was that, is that also make it exempt to, uh, come before the board? Thank you.
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Mm hmm. Um,
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I want to share a little background because this board created
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And I'm glad that we have that designation as a city now, uh, for tree USA. Um, the,
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to prevent what we've experienced. Where they were oak trees being removed without legitimate reasons. And so it was a way to try to save what trees we can't. And if they can't, uh, we look into the possibilities of
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Am I under that correct assumption? You guys, that's the way I thought it was right. Uh,
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There, there is, uh, mitigation. Yes.
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Right. And even though Todd had brought this up and I'm glad that we're addressing it now, and I'm glad to hear that they had an arborist look at it and all that. But what had transpired in the past, that information was brought to our board. So we would also be informed because before they didn't even have an arborist involved at all.
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Cause there's been, uh, ‸ there's been times where we've overruled
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and we've over.
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covered, but I think we needed to be a little more involved. Uh, it is a fact Laurel Oaks only live 70 some odd years. They grow really fast. They get just as big as live Oaks, but they're the ones that don't have a lifespan like,
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So I just hope that in the future that we could still be able to get that information for the board. So we don't lose track. It's not an all the time thing. This tree subject, there aren't
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but when it does, I'd like to see if we could continue that unless there's other input from the board from some of the
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I brought up. Uh, I hope you all feel the same way.
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Yeah, I do. I agree.
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I feel that way, but some of the
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to cancel your insurance. Wow. So, um, with all the hurricanes that we've had.
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Right.
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even if it's another part of the city.
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Right. Okay. But there are going to be a lot of trees cut down. Wow. Wait and see, because the insurance companies are,
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problem we have with insurance right now.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. Uh, any further discussion on trees? Just want
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make sure. All right. Then we'll move on to other business. Anybody have any other business for the board?
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again, um, in the past we had on the agenda, it says old business, which of course, that's not the issue. But we also had open discussion and the open discussion. I'll give you an example. Uh,
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For some reason, that's not being put anymore. We had, uh, concerned, um, citizens, uh, be able to address the board, uh, on issues of, um, their property that they feel, uh, they did that they were mistreated. And it gave them a chance to voice that concern to the board here, where then that information, once people see the recording, it also now is shared with the council and other people because this is, uh, recorded and it's public. Uh, but the item that I'm, I'm getting at is the open business allowed this particular person to come before the board. And,
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and that as a builder and a lot of other people know this also lime rock is, is a very good base material, especially if you ever in the future want to put concrete down because that makes it more of a stable ground. So in the meantime, while you're trying to save up money for all the
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of concrete, you can put the, um, the, uh, lime rock down ‸ and it helps to prevent dirt from coming in your house, uh, rather than it not being there. And
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Even the brick pavers don't require a permit.
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about it, but the way that I understand it, it hasn't. So when this person came in with the issue about his lime rock,
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um,
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one of the, uh, code board representatives, uh, for the code board was looking to require a permit for it to be, uh, requested for lime rock.
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a vote whether somebody can put lime rock down or not. So when this citizen came before the board and presented this, the board reacted, uh, in a way that it was like, wait a minute, this, this doesn't seem to make sense. And long story short, the man was able not only to stop being, uh, contacted about the lime rock on his driveway.
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uh, building department the way that it was. And so he ended up not having to be forced to spend even more money for something he thought it didn't need a permit for. And that's an example of the open discussion part that allows a citizen to bring to our attention to an issue like this. The way the board here voted, uh, we voted that we agreed with his concern that, uh, and we suggested that the council, uh, be sent a message that we feel that that should not be enforced anymore because it was in the starting stages.
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in, uh, in
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with our board, that's an example of the open business that isn't going to be utilized a lot, just like the tree item here. But I think it is important for an example of this being, um, one, uh, way of, uh, satisfying issues with the citizens in reference to something that was being, uh, changed or, or wanting to change the requirements and not be, uh, too detrimental.
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it is. Another thing is chain link fencing. Uh, we did, uh, vote. We
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the council not to allow chain link fencing in the
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Yes. But that's why you see more of the decorative fencing, like your wrought iron, uh, fencing and, um, even fancier wood fencing as well as the plastic, the white fencing.
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The chain link is, uh, got a lot of negatives. It's not very attractive. It is less expensive to put up, but in order for the city to become more physically attractive, that was something that was done years ago, but it wasn't brought up a lot.
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but it finally was remembered that that was something that the city, um, voted not to allow except for certain areas. So that was an example of some of the things for this open discussion. I'm sorry it took too long, but I wanted to give some background. So everybody on the board, especially the new people knew what had transpired since I'm bringing this up. Like, oh, this needs to be here. I don't want anybody left on the dark in the dark like that.
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But it wasn't an agenda items.
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No, it wasn't. And what it is, is
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set up like, okay, tree board. Is there anything there, uh, that needs to be discussed under tree board? And, uh, if we didn't have this issue that Jenny brought up, we would have moved on. And it's the same thing under new business or open discussion. If there isn't anything here, you know, it isn't. And that's how it's going to be handled,
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Is that not correct that if there was other business and there were people here who needed to speak to the PNZ, they could present a card under other business? I wonder. Ask my right.
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So in the past with the, so first of all, I would
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because the city just switched over to a different agenda software.
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on this agenda, but we'll, we'll try to get that back on there
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And that was put back on too.
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Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So we'll, we'll try to correct that issue.
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the board. Um, so I think in the past, if there was someone who wanted to,
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a board member wanted to invite someone to speak during that, um, period of time. Generally, I believe we, we kind of talked about that at the meeting before and the board would agree that it was okay to invite that person to speak.
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is an open discussion of the board members. It's not intended to be a public comment period.
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Exactly. Yeah. And that's, that's the, uh, under open discussion is also when we would have board members ask of city staff updates on some of the projects. Like when we were trying to get the hotel downtown, ‸ that's the point where we would get the updates from the staff, right? Okay. Yeah, exactly. All right. Thank you. Thank you.
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Any further items? Sir? Yes, sir.
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just, uh, like to introduce myself. My name's Russell single. I'll still go by rusty. Um, I retired from city of Cocoa fire department after 31 years.
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Uh,
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I was on the board for about 12 years.
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So I'm
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chairman.
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I was
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sheriff
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for a little while. Yeah. And,
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um,
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so I'm well versed in, um, ‸ hit the, hit the street running with two feet. Um, and, uh, just, uh, I just want to introduce
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you
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introduce
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know, who I am. And, um, if you have any questions of me whatsoever, a lot of new
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faces since you were here. Yeah. Yeah. I recognize two set up here.
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The tree guy and Todd.
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The
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tree guy. I'm called that a lot. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Mr.
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And, uh,
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work with the fire department. And there, there was times when he would find, uh, issues with developments and, uh, and, and bring up, uh, a unique perspective and actually get them corrected. Um,
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everybody has something to bring to the table. Yeah. ‸ So really helped us out a lot. All right. Yeah,
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absolutely. And what, welcome Mr. Backend.
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Mr. Bashaun. Sorry about that. All right. No other business. We'll move on to, uh, item number seven. Next.
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At the Cocoa City Hall here.
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Second,
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second by Mr. Anderson. Any further discussion? All in favor? Aye. That sounds
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