City Council

City Council Regular Meeting

Date: 2020-03-25
Status: Draft minutes and machine transcript available
Source: CivicClerk event #976

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Attendance (the roll call)

Listed present when the roll was taken: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins (printed “James Goins”), Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner
(Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines.)
Listed absent: Don Boisvert
Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Anthony A. Garganese (City Attorney), Matthew Fuhrer (Interim City Manager), Carie E. Shealy (City Clerk), Tammy Gemmati (Administrative Services Director), Jack Walsh (Utilities Director), Michael Cantaloupe (Chief of Police), Jonathan Lamm (Fire Chief), Jason McCuen (Helpdesk Support Tech)
Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, Brenda Warner, Jake Williams Jr., Lorraine Koss (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (12)

to approve the Agenda as amended for the Regular meeting of March 25, 2020 (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 2
to approve the Minutes for the Regular meeting of January 22, 2020 as written and to approve the Minutes of the Regular meeting of February 26, 2020 with the following amendments: • Page 14 , paragraph 4, should state: They could look into salary comparison (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 2
to approve the Consent agenda (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 9
1. Consideration of Ms. Debbie Joyce as the representative of the School Board of Brevard County on the Planning & Zoning Board. (20-181) — to approve the appo intment of Ms. Debbie Joyce as the representative of the School Board of Brevard County on the Planning & Zoning Board (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Brenda Warner); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 10
2. Consideration of a Donation Application for the Marine Resources Council of East Florida, Inc. in the amount of $1,000. (20-183) — to approve the donation request for Marine Resources Council in the amount of $690, which would be $230 from each account (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 3-1; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: Brenda Warner — the draft minutes p. 10
1. Approve the Guaranteed Maximum Price (GMP) Proposal from Wharton -Smith, Inc. (WSI), Sanford, Florida, for the Construction Phase Service — to approve the item (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Brenda Warner); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 11
2. Approve an Interlocal Cooperation Agreement between the City of Cocoa and Brevard County to accept $175,000 in Brevard County Community D — to approve the item (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 12
3. Authorize the City Manager to approve a change order to RUSH Marine, LLC. for installation of 61 anchors to improve the stability and res — to approve the item (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 12
4. Approve Task Order No. 2020 -05 to CH2M for Engineering Services During Construction (SDC) for the Dyal Water Treatment Plant Chemical Co — to approve the item (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 13
5. Approve the Second and Final Amendment to Purchase Agreement with Anderson Diving d/b/a Logan Diving and Salvage, Inc. effective March 5, — to approve the item (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Brenda Warner); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 13
6. Approve Task Order No. 2020 -06 to CH2M for SCADA Process Automation Services for the Dyal Water Treatment Plant Chemical Conversion and — to approve the item (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 13
to adjourn the Regular meeting of March 25, 2020 (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 14

Motions for which no result was read from the minutes' text (1)

2. Consideration of a Donation Application for the Marine Resources Council of East Florida, Inc. in the amount of $1,000. (20-183) — to approve the donation request for the Marine Resources Council of East Florida, Inc. in the amount of $1,000 (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Alex Goins); no result was read for this motion from the minutes' text — the draft minutes p. 10

Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)

$362,753 — Council: Consent agenda item 3, approved with the Consent agenda (in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): listed on an agenda item that an adopted motion approved as presented). “Approve Participation in a Cooperative Purchase Agreement with V acVision Environmental LLC (A Vortex Company) for Manhole Rehabilitation Services Utilizing the HGACBuy (Houston -Galveston Area Council) National Cooperative Purchasing Contract TP07-18 Effective July 1, 2018 through June 30, 2021 in the amount of $362,753 ; To Approve a Resolution Authorizing the City Manager to Approve Change Orders in an Amount Not ” (motion result: CARRIED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2020-04-22 agenda packet (1183_CC_Reg_Packet; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2020-04-22; approved with amendments by the City Council on 2020-04-22 according to the City's minutes; the amendment text is not in these records (the approving motion: “7 approve the Minutes for the Special meeting of March 17, 2020 as written and the Regular meeting of March 25, 2020 with amendments”))
$36,275 — Council: Consent agenda item 3, approved with the Consent agenda (in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): listed on an agenda item that an adopted motion approved as presented) — authorized up to (a spending limit, not an amount spent). “Approve Participation in a Cooperative Purchase Agreement with V acVision Environmental LLC (A Vortex Company) for Manhole Rehabilitation Services Utilizing the HGACBuy (Houston -Galveston Area Council) National Cooperative Purchasing Contract TP07-18 Effective July 1, 2018 through June 30, 2021 in the amount of $362,753 ; To Approve a Resolution Authorizing the City Manager to Approve Change Orders in an Amount Not ” (motion result: CARRIED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2020-04-22 agenda packet (1183_CC_Reg_Packet; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2020-04-22; approved with amendments by the City Council on 2020-04-22 according to the City's minutes; the amendment text is not in these records (the approving motion: “7 approve the Minutes for the Special meeting of March 17, 2020 as written and the Regular meeting of March 25, 2020 with amendments”))
$399,028 — Council: Consent agenda item 3, approved with the Consent agenda (in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): listed on an agenda item that an adopted motion approved as presented) — total of listed amounts ($362,753 + $36,275), not an additional amount. “Approve Participation in a Cooperative Purchase Agreement with V acVision Environmental LLC (A Vortex Company) for Manhole Rehabilitation Services Utilizing the HGACBuy (Houston -Galveston Area Council) National Cooperative Purchasing Contract TP07-18 Effective July 1, 2018 through June 30, 2021 in the amount of $362,753 ; To Approve a Resolution Authorizing the City Manager to Approve Change Orders in an Amount Not ” (motion result: CARRIED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2020-04-22 agenda packet (1183_CC_Reg_Packet; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2020-04-22; approved with amendments by the City Council on 2020-04-22 according to the City's minutes; the amendment text is not in these records (the approving motion: “7 approve the Minutes for the Special meeting of March 17, 2020 as written and the Regular meeting of March 25, 2020 with amendments”))
$175,000 — Council: in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): listed on an agenda item that an adopted motion approved as presented. “Approve an Interlocal Cooperation Agreement between the City of Cocoa and Brevard County to accept $175,000 in Brevard County Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) funds for pool resurfacing and other pool related improvements at the Dr. Joe Lee Smith Community Center Project #CP1504, PO# 74150.” (motion result: CARRIED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2020-04-22 agenda packet (1183_CC_Reg_Packet; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2020-04-22; approved with amendments by the City Council on 2020-04-22 according to the City's minutes; the amendment text is not in these records (the approving motion: “7 approve the Minutes for the Special meeting of March 17, 2020 as written and the Regular meeting of March 25, 2020 with amendments”))
$690 — Council: in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): decided in an adopted motion. “approve the donation request for Marine Resources Council in the amount of $690, which would be $230 from each account” (motion result: CARRIED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2020-04-22 agenda packet (1183_CC_Reg_Packet; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2020-04-22; approved with amendments by the City Council on 2020-04-22 according to the City's minutes; the amendment text is not in these records (the approving motion: “7 approve the Minutes for the Special meeting of March 17, 2020 as written and the Regular meeting of March 25, 2020 with amendments”))
$230 — Council: in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): decided in an adopted motion. “approve the donation request for Marine Resources Council in the amount of $690, which would be $230 from each account” (motion result: CARRIED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2020-04-22 agenda packet (1183_CC_Reg_Packet; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2020-04-22; approved with amendments by the City Council on 2020-04-22 according to the City's minutes; the amendment text is not in these records (the approving motion: “7 approve the Minutes for the Special meeting of March 17, 2020 as written and the Regular meeting of March 25, 2020 with amendments”))
$1,000 — Council: in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): named in a motion for which no result was read. “approve the donation request for the Marine Resources Council of East Florida, Inc. in the amount of $1,000” (motion result: none read; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2020-04-22 agenda packet (1183_CC_Reg_Packet; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2020-04-22; approved with amendments by the City Council on 2020-04-22 according to the City's minutes; the amendment text is not in these records (the approving motion: “7 approve the Minutes for the Special meeting of March 17, 2020 as written and the Regular meeting of March 25, 2020 with amendments”))
$1,000 — Council: in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): listed on the agenda item (a proposal as listed, not an approval). “Consideration of a Donation Application for the Marine Resources Council of East Florida, Inc. in the amount of $1,000.” (not adopted as listed: the adopted motion states a different amount or scope; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2020-04-22 agenda packet (1183_CC_Reg_Packet; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2020-04-22; approved with amendments by the City Council on 2020-04-22 according to the City's minutes; the amendment text is not in these records (the approving motion: “7 approve the Minutes for the Special meeting of March 17, 2020 as written and the Regular meeting of March 25, 2020 with amendments”))

Draft minutes, as printed in a later agenda packet

Source: 1183_CC_Reg_Packet_04_22_2020.pdf, the agenda packet of the 2020-04-22 meeting; lines 762–1297 of the City's text of that file. The packet's own page footers are left out below.

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MINUTES 
City of Cocoa 
Regular Meeting of The City Council 
March 25, 2020 
A Regular City Council Meeting was held on Wednesday, March 25, 2020, in Cocoa City 
Hall, in City Council Chambers, located at 65 Stone Street, in Cocoa, Florida, 32922, as 
publicly noticed. 
I. Opening Matters: 
Mayor Williams called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. 
 
Chief Lamm provided the invocation and Councilmember Warner led the assembly 
in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. 
 
 The City Clerk took the roll. 
 
 PRESENT:  Jake Williams, Jr.  Mayor 
    James Goins   Deputy Mayor  
    Lorraine Koss  Councilmember  
    Brenda Warner  Councilmember 
    Anthony Garganese  City Attorney 
    Matt Fuhrer   Interim City Manager 
    Carie Shealy   City Clerk 
 
 ABSENT:   Don Boisvert   Councilmember 
 
 OTHER STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT: 
 
Tammy Gemmati, Administrative Services Director; Jack Walsh, Utilities Director; 
Michael Cantaloupe, Chief of Police; Jonathan Lamm, Fire Chief; Samantha 
Senger, Public Relations Specialist/Assistant to the City Manager ; and Jason 
McCuen, Helpdesk Support Tech. 
 
II. Approval of Agenda and Minutes: 
 
 1. Agenda: Regular Meeting of March 25, 2020 (20-176) 

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2. Minutes: (a) Regular Meeting of January 22, 2020 (20-161) 
    (b) Special Meeting of February 26, 2020 (20-177) 
 It was requested that the Agenda for the Regular meeting of March 25, 2020 be 
 amended to remove the Delegations portion of the agenda.   
* MOTION by Councilmember Warner; Seconded by Deputy Mayor Goins, to 
approve the Agenda as amended for the Regular meeting of March 25, 2020. 
 AYES: WILLIAMS, GOINS, KOSS, WARNER 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (4-0) 
* MOTION by Councilmember Koss to approve the Minutes for the Regular 
meeting of January 22, 2020 as written and to approve the Minutes of the 
Regular meeting of February 26, 2020 with the following amendments:  
• Page 14 , paragraph 4, should state:  They could look into  salary 
comparison. We know we have competitive salaries with other 
municipalities, but we have not looked into private sector salaries. 
• Page 15, paragraph 2, there is a typo that says  /1 and should say “survey” 
instead of “country” 
The motion was seconded by Deputy Mayor Goins. 
AYES: WILLIAMS, GOINS, KOSS, WARNER 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (4-0)  
III. Awards and Presentations: 
 
 None. 
IV. Delegations: 
 None. 
V. Reports:  
 Ms. Senger advised that there was a report received from Ms. Jennifer Riggs,  
 who is the Chair of the Sustainability Advisory Committee.  She read it into the 
 record.1  
                                            
1 EXHIBIT A:  Email received from Ms. Jennifer Riggs 

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Chief Lamm provided an update on the EOC and noted that he had been attending 
meetings regarding COVID-19.  He has been very busy but is hearing a lot of good 
information.  He informed Council that a request has been put in through the State 
for necessary supplies for first responders.  Items are low and many are on back 
order, but they are doing the best they can.  When supplies are received they are 
split between fire and police.  
He stressed the importance of social distancing.  He further mentioned that the 
issue of homelessness was discussed and assured Council that they are working 
with the Brevard Homeless Coalition on this.   
Currently, there are eleven confirmed cases in Brevard County.  One is here in 
Cocoa.  As test s become available, the more information we will know.  Staff is 
very aware of the situation. 
Mayor Williams announced that the governor is urging the use of local vendors.  In 
response, Chief Lamm assured him that they were trying and that they were going 
to places to find equipment that they would not normally go to.  He pointed out that 
the fabrication business behind the old Fire Station # 1 had a box of mas ks that 
they donated.  They would not take any money for them.  He expressed his great 
appreciation for that gesture.  
Chief Cantaloupe mentioned that the police department has been handing out 
flyers in the community.  One is in regards to restaurants and  what they can and 
cannot do during these closures.  The other handout provides information on social 
distancing.  He shared that they have spoken with people in all parks, including 
Provost Park, and they were receptive to the fact and were aware of what was 
going on.   
Councilmember Warner asked if bathrooms were open.  Chief Cantaloupe noted 
that they had spoken with someone at Parks and Recreation to make sure they 
were open and to ensure that soap was provided.  He pointed out that a flyer has 
been posted on all doors to bathrooms that could be utilized.   
Deputy Mayor Goins mentioned that most of the soap dispensers at Provost do 
not work and some probably need to be replaced.  He asked if the number of 
positive cases increased if parks would be closed.  In response, Chief Cantaloupe 
advised that they have had discussions with the Sheriff and other Chiefs and while 
you want people to do the right thing, it is hard to tell people to stay home.   
Councilmember Koss agreed and believes that because of this , we will have a 
better appreciation for the outdoors.   

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Chief Cantaloupe added that these handouts would be provided in Spanish as well. 
Ms. Gemmati advised that she had reached out to three firms and was in the 
process of evaluating them for the recruitment of the City Manager.  
Councilmember Koss asked if they could do a meeting by conference call.  Ms. 
Gemmati mentioned that two were in Daytona and one was in Ohio.  She asked if 
they would like to hear from all of the firms in one day at a special meeting.   
Ms. Gemmati explained the importance of using a firm for this type of position after 
a question was posed by Deputy Mayor Goins. 
Councilmember Warner stated that one was used around twenty years ago.  Ms. 
Gemmati added that the firm would meet with them individually as well to get their 
input.  Councilmember Warner thought it would be good if all of this could be done 
in one day. 
Mr. Walsh provided an update and mentioned that all of the directors have been 
working with the Interim City Manager to come up with contingency plans for their 
departments.  Beyond social distancing, his department has been wiping down 
doorknobs, cleaning more, etc.  Some teleworking has begun as well.   
His most important and biggest issues were sewer operations and the water plant.  
They have been d iscussing possible issues that they could be faced with.  They 
are going to stagger start and lunch times to ensure these areas are always 
attended to.  Contingency plans are also being worked on in the event someone 
gets sick at these plants.   
Mayor Williams mentioned that this was one of those times where you look at the 
workers at these plants and really notice that they are front line workers and first 
responders.  They are not always looked at as first responders but they work 
tirelessly and are appreciated. 
City Attorney Garganese noted for the record that this meeting was noticed as a 
CMT meeting.  There was an order issued by the Governor regarding meetings 
not being public.  The notice read as follows: 
Due to the COVID-19 Emergency and the closing of City Hall to the public to limit 
public gatherings in accordance with Federal and State directives, the City of 
Cocoa will be utilizing Communications Media Technology (CMT) for upcoming 
City Council meetings pursuant to the Governor’s Executive Order Number 20-69 
and Florida Statutes, Section 120.54(5)(b)(2),  specifically one or more members 
of the City Council may attend and participate by speakerphone. In -person 
attendance by the public will not be allowed at this meeting due to the COVID -19 

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Emergency and the closing of City Hall to the public.  However, interested persons 
are encouraged to view and listen to the meeting by accessing the meeting at the 
following internet addresses: 
(1)https://tinyurl.com/s5e875r or 
(2)https://cocoa.legistar.com/DepartmentDetail.aspx?ID=26365&GUID=FF9D336
9-D354-4FAB-800A-57D0AEE30153&Mode=MainBody  
In addition, interested persons may submit their written comments or questions 
regarding the meeting prior to and during the meeting through Email, via the 
following email address: meetings@cocoafl.org.  Interested persons who wish to 
provide public input during the meeting will also be able to do so by calling 321-
433-8446. For more information about this CMT meeting or to provide information 
to be considered at this meeting, contact the City Clerk at the contact information 
stated above.  
He pointed out that the meeting was available via the internet and the public could 
provide input by calling in or providing comments on specific items.   
Interim City Manager Fuhrer advised that an updated report was given and as of 
6:05 p.m. there were 1,867 positive cases in Florida.   
He mentioned that staff was working on the implementation of the Family First 
Coronavirus Response Act which would have a lot of implications to City 
operations.  Staff was reviewing information daily in order to ensure that they were 
abiding with the law and were close to pushing out the policy to employees.  The 
policy is significant as to what allowances are by law. 
Interim City Manager Fuhrer reiterated Chief Lamm’s sentiments on the executive 
order and urged those over sixty-five to stay home, as well as those with underlying 
health conditions.  Additionally, the City has been providing telework opportunities 
as well.  There are currently twenty -two employees teleworking and this varies 
daily.  Additional equipment has been received to make this possible.   
Florida Power and Light provided an update and they are discontinuing turnoff’s 
through the end of March and Waste Management is fully operational, although 
their call centers are telecommuting.     
Interim City Manager Fuhrer advised that at the last Council meeting, on March 
17, 2020, Council approved the cancellation of all meetings with the exception of 
Council meetings.  He recommended that the April 8, 2020 meeting be limit ed to 
CMT only. 

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* It was a Consensus among Council to limit the April 8, 2020 to CMT only. 
 They would re-evaluate this at the next meeting. 
* It was also noted that the Cocoa CRA meeting on April 8, 2020 would be 
 cancelled. 
 Interim City Manager Fuhrer r eferred to the parks and open spaces and that the 
 City would maintain consistency with them and have modified timing of restroom 
 closures.  They would be closing at 6 p.m.   
He spoke about an email he received from Councilmember Koss regarding  First 
Billing’s $2.99 convenience fee. He pointed out that a response had been provided 
to Council.  They reached out to the vendor and the vendor was unable to waive 
the fee, as they make a small margin off of this which is their business practice.  
The option would  be that the City would have to pay that fee.  He provided the 
amounts and how much it would cost the City.   
 Mayor Williams believes that this should be left as is as there are other ways that 
 customers can pay.   
Further discussion was held on this issu e and Councilmember Koss felt that this 
was something that Stantec could look into and that it needed to be brought to the 
attention of the advisory board. 
 Interim City Manager Fuhrer announced that he met with the consultant from S & 
 ME and they were starting a steering committee and would need about twelve 
 members for that committee.  They would like to get work underway starting next 
 week.  He asked if Council would like to appoint a member and to please send 
 their nominations to the City Clerk.  Meetings would be during the day. 
 Councilmember Koss would like to represent Council and was very excited about 
 the grant as there were only three municipalities that received it.   
 Interim City Manager Fuhrer explained the grant being referred to in detail.   
 Councilmember Warner asked about the last tree study that was done and 
 believed that it was in the early 2000’s.  She asked when the tree city designation 
 was lost.  In response, Interim City Manager Fuhrer advised that when all  of this 
 information was submitted they would let Council know that information. 
* IT WAS A CONSENSUS AMONG COUNCIL FOR COUNCILMEMBER KOSS 
 TO THE BE THE COUNCIL LIAISON TO THE STEERING COMMITTEEE.    

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 Interim City Manager further noted that there was an inquiry on how the market 
 was affecting the City’s finances.  He provided an overview of the City’s funds 
 and a brief summary of what was happening currently due to COVID -19.  He 
 pointed out that the City was looking at a pretty steep loss and assured Council 
 that a detailed report would be provided in the future.  
 He explained that when Stantec does an analysis they would give an update on 
 all of the funds.  
 Councilmember Koss appreciated the Interim City M anager and how quickly and 
 thoroughly he has responded.   She has received a lot of calls in regards to the 
 pandemic.  She asked if the County’s state of emergency encompassed all 
 municipalities both incorporated and unincorporated.  In response, Interim City  
 Manager Fuhrer explained that the resolution that the City approved on March 
 11, 2020 lifted purchasing policies for this event.  The public health emergency is 
 state level.  
 Councilmember Koss thanked Ms. Senger for the videos that have been do ne 
 but felt that the interview format was not right.  In response, Ms. Senger noted 
 that those who are interviewed would depend on what the topic was.  She felt 
 that it was important for the elected officials to participate in these.   
 Councilmember Koss advised that she has been researching and sought advice 
 from the Attorney General’ s office and an option was posed to do an agenda 
 review meeting which would be publicly noticed and a lot of details could be 
 discussed.  The Council meeting would th en become more functionary.  She felt 
 that the City would be more transparent and the school board and other cities do 
 this.  It would not be mandatory and would work like a workshop.  
 Mayor Williams felt that there were too many things going on right now and they 
 cannot put more work on staff. 
 Deputy Mayor Goins felt that they should just ask questions and not worry about 
 others’ opinions during Council meetings.  
Mayor Williams advised that they ask questions prior the meeting and get their 
questions answered.  Sometimes staff is not prepared for questions and do not 
have the answers.   
 Councilmember Koss stated that she would bring this up again as it will allow for 
 more sunshine and transparency.   
 Discussion was held on how much time  other members spend with the Interim 
 City Manager. 

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Councilmember Warner was getting a lot of questions of which she is passing on 
to Ms. Senger. She is noticing that people are wanting to see who their elected 
officials are. She agreed with Councilmember  Koss and felt that Chief Lamm 
should be the spokesperson for the City.   
Deputy Mayor Goins was concerned about the parks and their bathrooms and 
asked if Parks and Rec could put some wash stations in the parks that do not have 
bathrooms. In response, Interim City Manager Fuhrer noted would look into this.    
 Deputy Mayor Goins further mentioned areas in Cocoa do not have traffic 
 signals.  He was pleased to see Brevard County Traffic Operations was looking 
 into doing a master plan for some of the lights .  He spoke with Mr. Smith about 
 this and he will keep the conversation going to ensure this gets done. 
 He thanked Brevard County for providing food for students.  Many kids rely on 
 school meals.   
 Deputy Mayor Goins inquired about the summer youth pro gram.  In response, 
 Ms. Gemmati advised that they would be having an internal meeting with 
 CareerSource.  It will not be a great experience if the students cannot get the 
 whole experience.  Due to school closures things need to be sorted out.   
 Mayor Williams thanked the Interim City Manager for the work that he has been 
 doing and thanked Chief Cantaloupe for reaching out to people and for going to 
 all of the parks and posting information.   
 He provided kudos to Cambridge Elementary, Emma Jewe l Charter Academy, 
 and Cocoa PAL, along with all other schools and volunteers who are serving and 
 provided food for children and families.    
 He further thanked Pebbles Catering, Celebration Tabernacle, and the REAL  
 Church who served over three hundre d meals to residents today.  It was a nice 
 event and they served until they ran out of food.   
 Mayor Williams requested that microphones and screens be updated in  
 chambers. 
 Mayor Williams assured everyone that the City would keep the public informed 
 and updated on the latest information in reference to the virus.   
VI. Consent Agenda: 
 
1. Approve Change Order #1 to FY2020 P.O. 75891 with Xylem Water Solutions 
USA, Inc., Apopka, Florida, for Prepaid Shipping Charges That Were Not Included 

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on the Original Quote/P.O.; To Authorize the City Manager to Execute the Change 
Order. (20-137). (Utilities Director) 
 
2. Approve a Resolution Waiving the Competitive Bidding Process for the Purpose of 
Making a Sole Source Purchase of Three (3) DISCFLO Pumps From  Gerber 
Pumps International, Inc., Longwood, Florida, for the Dyal Water Treatment Plant; 
To Approve a Resolution Amending the FY2020 Budget, BAF# 20-050-T. (20-151). 
(Utilities Director) 
 
3. Approve Participation in a Cooperative Purchase Agreement with V acVision 
Environmental LLC (A Vortex Company) for Manhole Rehabilitation Services 
Utilizing the HGACBuy (Houston -Galveston Area Council) National Cooperative 
Purchasing Contract TP07-18 Effective July 1, 2018 through June 30, 2021 in the 
amount of $362,753 ; To Approve a Resolution Authorizing the City Manager to 
Approve Change Orders in an Amount Not to Exceed $36,275 (approximately 
10%) for a Project Total of $399,028. (20-153). (Utilities Director) 
 
4. Approve Amendment No. 1 to Task Order 2019-04 with CH2M Hill Engineers, Inc. 
for the Bidding Phase Assistance and Services During Construction (SDC) for 
Security System Improvements at the Dyal Water Treatment Plant, Project No. 
WS1404, Chemical Conversion and Reliability Improvements Project . (20-157). 
(Utilities Director) 
 
* MOTION by Councilmember Warner; Seconded by Councilmember Koss, to 
approve the Consent agenda. 
 
 AYES:  WILLIAMS, GOINS, KOSS, WARNER 
 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (4-0) 
 
VII. Public Hearings: 
 None. 
VIII. Council Business: 
1. Consideration of Ms. Debbie Joyce as the representative of the School Board of 
Brevard County on the Planning & Zoning Board. (20-181). (Administrative 
Services Director) 

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* MOTION by Councilmember Koss; Seconded by Councilmember Warner, to 
approve the appo intment of Ms. Debbie Joyce as the representative of the 
School Board of Brevard County on the Planning & Zoning Board 
 AYES:  WILLIAMS, GOINS, KOSS, WARNER 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (4-0)   
2. Consideration of a Donation Application for the Marine Resources Council of East 
Florida, Inc. in the amount of $1,000. (20-183). (Administrative Services Director) 
 Councilmember Koss referenced the statement made previously by Ms. Riggs and 
hoped that all council would support this donation request. 
* MOTION by Councilmember Koss; Seconded by Deputy Mayor Goins, to 
approve the donation request for the Marine Resources Council of East 
Florida, Inc.  in the amount of $1,000.   
 The motion was opened for discussion.  
 Councilmember Warner stated that because this was Council’s money she has 
always felt that the money was to give to those who do not get funding from others 
and whose resources were limited.  She believes that the Marine Resources 
Council was wonderful, however, she likes to use that basis for donations.    They 
cannot say yes to everything.    
 She would not be supporting this request and it was not because she does not 
support the Marine Resources Council but there are citizens who donated mo ney 
not so long ago and she would like to save the remainder of her allotment.   
 Councilmember Koss noted that MRC does not have a lot of money, and there 
were at least fifteen people who were in Councilmember Warner’s district at the 
event.   
 Discussion was held on the donation policy and how situations like this had been 
handled in the past. 
 Councilmember Koss reminded Council that when this was brought up some time 
ago she was told that they vote in unison so that donations are approved.   
 The motion was reinstated. 
* MOTION by Councilmember Koss; Seconded by  Deputy Mayor  Goins, to 
approve the donation request for Marine Resources Council in the amount 
of $690, which would be $230 from each account.    

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 AYES: Williams, Goins, Koss 
 NAYS: Warner 
 THE MOTION CARRIED (3-1) 
IX. City Business: 
1. Approve the Guaranteed Maximum Price (GMP) Proposal from Wharton -Smith, 
Inc. (WSI), Sanford, Florida, for the Construction Phase Services for the Chemical 
Conversion and Reliability Improvements Project (CCRIP) at the Dyal Water 
Treatment Plant, Project No. WS1404; To Authorize the City Manager to Execute 
the GMP Amendment #1 to the Master Service Agreement with WSI for 
Construction Manager at Risk (CMAR) Services. (20-139). (Utilities Director) 
  
 Mr. Walsh advised that this was a large project with several small projects within it 
which would all take place at the Dyal Plant.  He explained all of the projects in 
detail. He pointed out that this was the biggest project that he has brought forth to 
Council since he has been here and he was excited about it.  Wharton Smith is a 
good firm.   
 
Councilmember Koss asked how long the project would take and in response, Mr. 
Walsh stated a little less than two years.  
 
* MOTION by Councilmember Koss; Seconded by Councilmember Warner, to 
approve the item. 
 
 AYES: WILLIAMS, GOINS, KOSS, WARNER 
 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (4-0) 
   
2. Approve an Interlocal Cooperation Agreement between the City of Cocoa and 
Brevard County to accept $175,000 in Brevard County Community Development 
Block Grant (CDBG) funds for pool  resurfacing and other pool related 
improvements at the Dr. Joe Lee Smith Community Center Project #CP1504, PO# 
74150.  These funds will be reimbursed to the City by Brevard County CDBG and 
deposited back into General Fund Balance, not to exceed $175,000. (20-152). 
(Community Services Director) 
 
 Interim City Manager Fuhrer spoke about the item in detail and noted that this 
included all of the costs of the pool area.  
 

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* MOTION by Deputy Mayor  Goins; Seconded by Councilmember Koss, to 
approve the item. 
 
 AYES:  WILLIAMS, GOINS, KOSS, WARNER 
 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (4-0) 
   
3. Authorize the City Manager to approve a change order to RUSH Marine, LLC. for 
installation of 61 anchors to improve the stability and resilience of the seawall along 
the Riverfront Park Promenade.  Approve a Resolution Amending the FY20 
Budget, Budget Amendment form #20 -053-A, through the use of General Fund 
Balance. (20-185). (Public Works Director) 
 
 Interim City Manager Fuhrer explained this item in detail and  explained why the 
change order was necessary. 
  
 An E-Comment was received on this item and Ms. Senger advised it was from Ms. 
Candice Rogers, a Cocoa resident.  She read the comment into the record.2 
 
 Interim City Manager Fuhrer mentioned that he had received an email prior to this 
meeting in regards to this.  He explained that this project was underway and that 
if you go to Lee Wenner Park, you will notice that the seawall is open three to four 
feet down.  He explained the design in furtherance and poin ted out that the tie -
backs that provide structural support were severed.   
 
 Ms. Senger announced that an Email was received from Jennifer Riggs  and read 
it into the record3.  
 
 Further discussion was held on this project. 
 
* MOTION by Councilmember Warner; Seconded by Deputy Mayor Goins, to 
approve the item.  
 
 AYES: WILLIAMS, GOINS, KOSS, WARNER 
 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (4-0) 
                                            
2 Exhibit B:  E-Comment received from Candace Rogers, Cocoa resident 
3 Exhibit C:  Email received from Jennifer Riggs, Cocoa resident 

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Multi-Year Contracts:4 
4. Approve Task Order No. 2020 -05 to CH2M for Engineering Services During 
Construction (SDC) for the Dyal Water Treatment Plant Chemical Conversion and 
Reliability Improvements Project (CCRIP), Project No. WS1404; To Approve as a 
Multi-Year Contract from FY2020 through FY2022. (20-24). (Utilities Director) 
* MOTION by Councilmember Warner; Seconded by Councilmember Koss, to 
approve the item. 
 AYES:  WILLIAMS, GOINS, KOSS, WARNER 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (4-0)5 
5. Approve the Second and Final Amendment to Purchase Agreement with Anderson 
Diving d/b/a Logan Diving and Salvage, Inc. effective March 5, 2020 through March 
4, 2022, under RFQ -14-19-COC Subaqueous Pipeline Assessment . (20-80). 
(Utilities Director) 
* MOTION by Councilmember Koss; Seconded by Councilmember Warner, to 
approve the item. 
 AYES:  WILLIAMS, GOINS, KOSS, WARNER 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (4-0)   
6. Approve Task Order No. 2020 -06 to CH2M for SCADA Process Automation 
Services for the Dyal Water Treatment Plant Chemical Conversion and Reliability 
Improvements Project (CCRIP), Project No. WS1404; To Approve as a Multi-Year 
Contract from FY2020 through FY2022. (20-135). (Utilities Director) 
* MOTION by Councilmember Warner; Seconded by Deputy Mayor Goins, to 
approve the item. 
 AYES:  WILLIAMS, GOINS, KOSS, WARNER 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (4-0)  
X. nInformational Agenda: 
 
1. Council request to review the cumulative purchase approvals over $35,000 and 
under $50,000 for period 10/01/2019 to 02/29/2020.  (20-148). (Finance Director) 
 
                                            
4Deputy Mayor Goins left the meeting at 8:05 p.m. 
5 Deputy Mayor Goins returned to the meeting at 8:07 p.m. and was included in the vote.  

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2. Data showing the relation between the estimated and actual income and expenses 
to date. (20-154). (Finance Director) 
 
3. Approved change orders to construction contracts that the City Council has 
authorized the City Manager, by resolution, to approve in exc ess of the City 
Manager’s spending authority. (20-155). (Finance Director) 
 
4. FY 2020 Budget Adjustment Report. (20-156). (Finance Director) 
 
XI.  Adjournment: 
 
* MOTION by Councilmember Warner; Seconded by Deputy Mayor Goins, to 
adjourn the Regular meeting of March 25, 2020. 
 
AYES: WILLIAMS, GOINS, KOSS, WARNER 
 
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (4-0) 
 
The meeting adjourned at 8:09 p.m. 
 
 
 
 
 
       __________________________ 
       Jake Williams, Jr., Mayor 
 
 
 
 
ATTEST: 
 
 
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Carie Shealy, MMC, City Clerk

Agenda (the City's wording)

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Mayor Williams. Here.

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I'm sorry, Acting City Manager. Here. Thank you.

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All in favor, say aye. Aye.

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26th minutes with the following amendments. Page 14, paragraph four, sentence three was in reference to, we were talking about engineer salaries and seeking engineers. The sentence reads,

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could look into salary comparison, which would not compare to other municipalities, but they could look at the private sector. I think the intent, and I think this was Tammy. It's probably paraphrasing.

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It's just that we're not as competitive with the private sector, right? Right. Right.

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Well, that and exactly, the other private sectors are making offers to candidates ‸ six months before they graduate college, and they're traveling nationwide to get candidates. Sure. So my

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amendment then would be, they could look into salary comparison, period. We know we have competitive salaries with other municipalities, but we have not looked into private sector salaries.

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engineers. And on page 15, these are less important changes, but there is a typo on page 15, paragraph 2. ‸ Okay. So the sentence starts with slash 1. I think it was a cut and paste error. And then in paragraph 4,

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3, this was in reference to the surveys that we're going to be doing.

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says staff is working with the city's attorney office in regards to some of the wording of the country, and I think they meant to say survey there. So with those amendments?

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special meeting from February 26th, and we have a second from Deputy Mayor Goins. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? It passes unanimously. Okay. We have no awards and presentations.

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our reports. No boards and advisory committees. I don't see the administration.

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council members, thank you all for your tireless work in these strange times. Stay well. I bring good news. On February 29th, a group of Cocoa neighbors hosted a neighborhood progressive dinner they had organized with a three-fold objective to increase our sense of neighborhood and neighbor, ‸ neighborliness through conversations and celebration, to increase awareness and education on lagoon health topics, and to raise money to support the Marine Resources Council's report card. We raised $3,550 as a restricted gift for the MRC.

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The report card details changes in water quality annually. Over time, this can be used to correlate with ongoing work in the Indian River Lagoon cleanup efforts, paid for by the half-cent sales tax, and assess their efficacy. Many thanks to the hosts and their families who opened their homes and prepared a course to share with their neighbors, Bridget Haygood and

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Johnny and Roger Nauman, Jennifer and Todd Riggs, Jeanette and Frank Sullivan. This event proved extremely successful in promoting both education and goodwill among neighbors. Although it is not technically a sustainability committee issue or topic, the experience demonstrated itself to me as a model for promoting a sense of civic belonging and empowering citizens through sound information. I believe we will see better practices related to lawn and yard care, etc. from those who attended. This may be something we could consider adding to the action plan.

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I hope you will consider supporting this. Thank you, Jennifer Riggs, Chair of the Sustainability Advisory Committee.

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Thank you, ma'am. That was ‸ a great event. I attended that event. It was actually a first. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

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Yeah, very educational. Okay, is that it? Anyone else?

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other hats that I wear for our money is a manager. So I just wanted to bring everybody up today to kind of where you're at in the city

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the conference calls and everything. Just to kind of see ‸ a typical layout of how that works.

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No. There you go.

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Florida Department of Health. See, I wasn't hearing things. And then the last call is through the DEM, the Florida Department of Emergency Management, and kind of where things lay out. So it's pretty busy, but it's very informative.

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I will say that this week we've had

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local county EOC for N95 mask

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some of the important items that we needed for our first responders, because we were running out. And basically we didn't have any.

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very hard to get. So on Monday, ‸ Tuesday,

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got the phone call from the county EOC, and they had a small cache that came in that they were actually dividing up between all the

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We were able to get six boxes. So there's

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We were able to take and split that up.

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We got ‸ 90 for our people and started getting that material out. That did not null and void our request to the state for a lot more of those items. It was just to try and help us get through as much as we could. So we're still staying vigilant with that. I've talked to my

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we're facing, not just here within our own municipality, but in the county as a whole, with those backorders and the shortages that we're seeing for our first responders. ‸ It's at an epidemic level, much like the disease that we're dealing with. And there's really no end in sight. So they're aware of it. They're doing the best they can. But I'm proud to say that, you know, through the efforts of our city council and all of our department, ‸ there has been no potential stop on us being able to use any resources necessary to get that equipment for all of our city employees to protect. So we've implemented some actions

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working with

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and the human resources manager to ensure that we've addressed both the state federal guidelines that have come out. But the biggest thing that we can encourage people to do is follow the CDC direction. I mean, that's ‸ the biggest thing right now. Social distancing,

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staying out of large crowds, you know, all those things are what they're recommending.

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not been a push by the governor at this point for people to quarantine themselves. Now, he did just come out today and said that anyone 65 or older should self-quarantine for 14 days. It just goes back to what the CDC has been

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on this whole self-quarantine thing and really trying to look out for our neighbors. So I think as this event goes on,

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But the biggest things that we have been talking about on

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county level as far as the county's even. One was something that I wanted to follow up with Ms. Koston. I think that she brought up at the ‸ council meeting was our homeless population. What would we do in the event if we had one of our homeless victims show up positive for COVID-19? How would we isolate the rest? I posed that question the very next day when we had our conference call.

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That was something they were working with the health department on and some of their other partners. So when we had our conference call today, I brought it back around to him again and said, what was the follow-up on that? They are working with ‸ the Brevard Homeless Coalition on

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that, and

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The coalition actually has a good handle on where those populations are at, how they're set up, and the needs that would need to be addressed in the event that that happens.

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problem and make shelters and have shelters open. This is a little different. You're talking about a medical-type emergency. So this is something that we really haven't dealt a lot with and are struggling. I'll be quite honest with

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We're all struggling nationwide. So ‸ they surely have not lost sight of that. So they're going to continue to take a look at that, but certainly that is not something that has fallen by the wayside, and they will certainly address that. So I just wanted council to know that I did address that concern.

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And that to credit was actually the mayor.

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‸ No, it doesn't matter. ‸ We're all here together, so we're in this together. That's okay. No, that's all right.

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Please

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don't write me off your Christmas list. No, we're all in it together,

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so it doesn't, yeah, that's ‸ all right.

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I have not lost sight of that. So just to bring you up to speed where we're at in the county as a whole, there are

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one in Cocoa Beach, one in Indian Harbor,

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more available,

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and that's just part of what we're dealing with right now. ‸ But certainly our staff, the EM staff, is very aware of the situation and the severity of the situation, but we're certainly cognizant of the need to continue to provide services

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And I hate to sound crass about it, but really it is business as usual for us as first responders, police and PD. We understand the movement need and things for us to do, but it's also making us revamp and look at the way we respond to calls and calls for service. And it certainly does not mean that we're blowing them off, but we certainly have to be more cautious, especially in a small municipality like we are now, to ensure that we protect our own people and still provide a high quality of service. So with that being said, ‸ I didn't want to pick up a lot of your time tonight, but we still have a lot of items that are out there that we've ordered and continue to provide the safety and protection for our employees that are back there. It's a national back order. We're checking in on those items.

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our vendors at least every other day, if not every other hour almost, But we're staying vigilant to ensure that we don't get lost and that shuffle from our vendor side and both from the state side on the

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that we've been in so far.

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Thank you, sir. Hold on. Just one second.

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Are we,

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vendors out there, that if we can find it locally, are we looking at those options as well?

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I know. So

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absolutely. We're going to places to find equipment that we would probably not normally buy

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And I'll give you an example of that.

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to try and find N95 masks. ‸ Believe it or not, those companies actually use those when they're using their process.

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not even they had N95 masks. And I told them all,

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said, look, we are willing to pay for this. We will buy them. I'm not asking you to give them to us. We need them for our first response. The steel company, the fabrication shop that

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she actually had a box and gave them to us. And said, here, take these. Now it's 20 masks that she had left. And I said, look, I don't want to jeopardize your

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nor do I just want to take something. Please allow me to pay for them. And she said, absolutely not. She said, you know, we want you guys to take care of our citizens here in the community.

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of awkward, but I took them. And I took them back to our responders, so we would ‸ have that

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equipment. So we're pulling out every stop to try and find this equipment. We just got ‸ an approval from the International Association of Fire Chiefs

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We had some old hazmat suits here in the city for level B response type things. They're splash

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They were out of date. But really, there was nothing wrong with the suits. They weren't falling apart. There was no integrity issues. And we finally got a letter from them saying, yes, if you don't have any PPE, something's better than nothing to use in it. So we started pulling that stuff out of storage to use in the event that we have to make entry to a patient who is positive for COVID-19 to protect our employees. So there's some unconventional, ‸ unfortunately, that we're having to use right now to try and find some things or use things that we normally would not use that just aren't normal. But we're certainly doing everything that we can to try and use.

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Mayor, go

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No, no, no, no. Oh, okay. I think

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it's me.

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Oh, ‸ okay. I'm sorry.

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I was just going to say that in terms of the ‸ growth, so I started ‸ writing it down on Saturday.

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It has literally doubled in four days. ‸ And

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don't know anyone that has it. But this is an exponential growth rate,

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we haven't even begun to start testing. So does that mean in two days it's twice as many?

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Oh, and you know that's a great point you bring up is if you actually pull,

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the CDC website, and there's a detailed data sheet that goes into it. And if you look,

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tested 166 people. That was as of 10 a.m. this morning.

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Now when you think how large this county is, we've only tested 166 people. There's a lot of people out there that probably have it that we don't need to know about. That should make me want to quarantine for 14 days. ‸ I mean, that's just one of the realities that we're dealing with right now with the test being short,

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know, them trying to push manufacturers for more testing, more of the availability of the test, and just how rampant it is across the United States as a whole.

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And just one thing,

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already, reach out to the powers that be out at the Space Center because let me tell you, they've got every form of PPE that you can imagine out there.

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And so, I mean, if it gets down to that point, I would reach out to some of them, you know. So, thank you, sir.

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I provided each of you with a couple of flyers that we're currently passing out to the community. The one covers issues with restaurants and bars. There was some concern, or some concern, and I think some confusion ‸ when the governor's order first came down about who could do what. So we tried to simplify that and also make it more friendly and try to tell them, you

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with their actual bar.

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you can serve it as takeout.

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to serve food and alcohol as long as it is in a closed, sealed container. We did explain to some of them that the plastic cup with

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lid on it is not a closed, sealed container. So what we've been working through, ‸ everybody's been pretty responsive. Like I said, the one, ‸ we're patting that out all over to the restaurants and bars. The second one just kind of gives a little bit of information about social distancing and some of the other things. is We went around and hit all of our parks today in the village,

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And anybody that was in the parks,

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made sure that they understood that they ‸ needed to be in small groups.

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most of them were pretty receptive to the fact that they realized what's going on. and they're in there, even though they're still hanging out some, they are trying to be as socially responsible as possible. So I think that's going good. But I just wanted to give you a copy of that so if anybody has asked, that's kind of what we're doing right now. And we

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couple of different videos

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Again, talking about that same thing. So you should see some stuff on our Facebook page here for a

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while.

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Thank you, sir. I've got a question.

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I'm just

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going to ask the chief. The bathrooms in the parks, the ‸ ones that have bathrooms, are they open? Are they able to ‸ at least, wash their hands and came out and encouraged that?

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bathrooms were open. Today I actually talked to somebody from Parks and Rec that showed up in the afternoon because I believe the bathrooms at Provost were locked. So I'd mentioned to them, and

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was going to talk to ‸ Matt about it after the meeting,

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bathrooms, number one. And

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so people can wash their hands.

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‸ Maybe we should put up some reminders about washing their hands.

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did.

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and you'll see in the video we did,

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put it on Facebook, we actually put this on, I believe,

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we couldn't get to the ones at Provost, but

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And then in the village, we put these on the doors to the

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so people would kind of see them when they were going in and out of the bathrooms. Thank

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you.

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We'll make it overbearing. ‸ That way people that go in and out left,

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see them and maybe read them and think about

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when they

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go in there actually washing their hands.

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Great. ‸ Most of the soap dispensaries inside the bathroom

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I don't know if it'd be smart to leave maybe a bottle, but maybe they need to replace some of the dispensaries.

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Yeah, there's been a rash disappearance of toilet paper. Yes. And so, as fast as you can put the toilet paper out, it seems to disappear.

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When you think about

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the beach, they're closing some of the beaches right now. Well, considering it Friday, maybe depending on all this testing going on, if our numbers increase, thinking about closing some of the parks. I know that's down the road, but I

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know ‸ I had talked to the sheriff briefly and a couple other ‸ chiefs. ‸ We all kind of felt that, yes, we want people to social distance. Yes, we want them to do the right thing. But I think it's going to be hard to tell people to just stay home. ‸ People want to go exercise. They want to go ‸ talk to other people.

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mean, ‸ staying in the house, which a lot of people are doing, but just staying in

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the

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house for 14 days,

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very rough on a lot of people.

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Especially with kids in the house. Yeah,

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absolutely. And then, you know, ‸ we're afraid to see, ‸ domestic violence cases going up. Right,

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right, right.

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‸ The consumption of food is going up. So I would say as a last resort, maybe if they don't. But, you know, it's kind of what we explained to each person that we talked to in the parks today, was that, look, ‸ here's the deal. If you do the right things and you sit six feet apart and you wash your hands and you don't gather up in groups in more than 10, I think we'll be okay. I think we'll be okay. I think that

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will

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be okay. And that way you're not, like I said, locking everybody down.

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All right, thank you. Thank you, sir.

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Yeah, and like I said, ‸ you know, I mean, ‸ we as an agency have tried to triage a lot of our calls, too. Some,

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lot of stuff, ‸ we're calling people back and doing reports and stuff over the phone. and I was telling people that, too. The more you, the more restrictions you put on, the more interactions we have to have. You know, you've seen, like, some of the, some of

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other cities

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put curfews in. Well, somebody's got to stop those people that are out between 11 and 5 in the morning to find out why and that. So you're having additional encounters which increases the risk of first responders, you know. That's a good point. Contracting or coming in,

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Okay.

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Yeah, I was just going to say, ‸ I really agree with you on the parks. I think that, you know, we're going to have a better appreciation for these open outdoor spaces where we can socialize at a safe distance. In my neighborhood, we had one get-together where everybody brought their own chair, their own drink, and we sat under a big shade tree. and, you know, we're able to socialize. But also, I wanted to say

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And I just wanted to tell people that I spoke with a friend from college who currently lives in Manhattan, and she says, oh, yeah, but don't worry about that, because in two weeks they'll be filled again. Because that's the way New York was two weeks ago. And

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It just takes time to replenish and get ahead of the curve.

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the other thing, too, on these I wanted to bring up, we are actually working on translating these into Spanish, And

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And then the video we did today,

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community.

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And we see the toilet paper coming back. It's more of the, it's more of the bread, the lunch meat, ground beef, and chicken because the kids are home every day.

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Yeah, I think all of it is going to come back.

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think what's happened is that demand went up so much.

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don't think the supply is not there. I just think they're having trouble getting that additional supply of the stores right now. So I think they're working on that. Yeah. I think they'll have that figured out. Instead of getting ‸ one or two trucks a day, they're going to get four or five trucks a day. Yeah.

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Thanks, sir.

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right.

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Mr. Mayor, I'm sorry. I need to give you an update.

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discussed about the city manager recruitment. and I reached out to three firms that are specialized in public sector ‸ executive recruitment and we're

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I'd like to bring them to y'all in a meeting. and I just want to discuss since there's no public access to the meeting right now, did

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you all

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want to discuss when you would like to see that? Because I'd like to invite the firms to present to all

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of you as a group. Yeah, whenever, as soon as we can, or ‸ whenever it's, you know, safe to do so.

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I was going to say, ASAP and why can't we do this by conference call?

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mean...

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Are the firms local or are they going to have to fly in, or they're local?

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So they're, they're local. Because,

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I was going to say, there's no reason they couldn't come in one at a time and present.

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mean, as long as the public has access and the ability to ask questions or at least watch what's going on, I think we're, we're safe under the law. But... Would you like to do

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it as a special meeting and schedule it during the day? Would you like to see something like that?

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Yeah, as soon as possible. Okay.

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That's just for discussion. This is to,

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to you, and get y'all's input on what you'd like to see in the process.

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it, ‸ do we have, is it? It is.

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Yeah.

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For

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key positions like the city manager, it is, you're going after candidates that are, are most likely working at the time, at the moment. So they have deep candidate pools where they do email blasts and advertisements in specialized areas.

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Maybe the last time we went outside for a city manager, which has been over 20 years ago, we used to search for them.

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couldn't find, I was searching in Laser Fish and I didn't find any, anything. Yeah, it

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was a long time ago. It was late 90s, I think. But ‸ yeah, we went for Mr.

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and then we did another one when Mr. Holt was hired. There was an outside search done when he was hired. Mr. Greenwood and Mr. Blake could give you all the details on that. They were part of that six-hour fight to hire a city manager. And

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part of the process is to, is for the selected recruiter firm to meet with each of you to discuss and get input from you on what you'd like to see in an ideal candidate, and to put all that together and

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to package

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we could do all that in one day, maybe have the individual meetings and then do the presentation in one day so we don't have to keep leaving home, that would be great.

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Okay. Thank you, ma'am.

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I don't have to buy it?

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Yeah, thank you, council. Just a quick update. Obviously, all the directors including myself

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real closely with Matt and all everyone else in the city to try to come up with contingency plans essentially.

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you know, kind of spitballing in terms of scenarios, trying to understand where this may go and what are the places you're doing and, you know,

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from other cities who are kind of ahead of us in terms of their saturation. So, we've done a number of steps. ‸ I'm just going to put a couple of highlights. Beyond the social distancing and the cleaning and some of the modifications that we've made, we also have some of our own staff that are wiping down door knobs and other things that we have to touch in certain areas. In

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fact,

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I just saw somebody get before I came over here. You know, we keep the supplies nearby as much as we can. We did institute some telecommuting within the utility this week. A couple people were approved. There's a couple more I think pending right now to help the folks who either have pre-existing conditions or have that capacity or want to voluntarily telecommute and their job description to make that happen. and We're making that happen right now. But my primary thoughts are honestly are with the water production and the sewer plant. Those are the two key areas for us.

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Obviously, it's a problem for many of the citizens

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as well as in ‸ our service area. So it's an utmost importance for us to really be disciplined about what we do there.

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over at the wastewater plant to talk about the different scenarios that we potentially could be faced. So right now we are thinking, I just talked to Matt this afternoon about actually because a water field operations group is so large,

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starting at the same time. and spread them out, spread out their lunches and other things And that will minimize our impact and our interaction if you will at the same time. at the beginning of the day, at the lunchtime and at the end of the day.

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So we'll implement that as soon as we get that going. We've also been working on contingency plans at both the wastewater plant and the water plant. about how we would staff. We've talked specifically about minimum staffing to meet the requirements for both plants And then we also have obviously detailed out ‸ who our licensed operators are, and who our apprentices are, and basically ‸ what do we need, what's our minimum

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It's really just a matter of how well our social distancing works and ‸ how well. If somebody gets sick at one of the plants, then you'll have to have to

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I know that the chief is already working on getting a fogger or an immediate demon contamination so

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So those are the kinds of things that we're thinking about keeping those areas running, and that really is the primary push in terms of what I'm thinking about right now. Any questions?

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well, do you have any idea of what the percentage is of staff that you could actually,

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mean, I know there are certain jobs that you have to have.

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Yeah, I have all of that. I mean, I have to have one licensed operator and one apprentice minimum for each plant for each shift. Now, we're currently doing three

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but that's the kinds of things that we're talking about.

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make modifications to the schedule if we had to. And if we're running surface water, which we're actually, we're just going to start it up so we may end up holding off on that, because then we would need three operators in the plant, primary and two apprentices. So we're, in the thought process, I think we're going to hold off. We could probably hold off for

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few weeks. What we'll probably end up doing is turning all the equipment on so it runs and operates, but

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and that actually would allow us to just, we have to go down to the minimum if we ‸ go to, basically, we would need four people a day and that's to cover a day shift and an evening shift.

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including the chief operator. At the water plant,

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have, I believe it's seven or eight at the wastewater plant. So we're a bit understaffed on the wastewater side.

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We actually have some requests in there. HR can ‸ get a whole school of interview.

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that would help fill out. and they really almost are at them and staffing at the wastewater.

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I tell you, this is one of those times and those situations that

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opened my eyes to some stuff. We don't, not everyone look at utility workers and our water system and stuff like that. And that we got to keep the water flowing and so forth and

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on. ‸ This is one of those times and one of those situations where I consider them as being, you know, on the front lines, you know. One of our primary responders, you know, and I just, and I appreciate them, appreciate the work that they do and I just, you know, we were talking about, I know he mentioned even FPL, you know, And then you think about hurricanes and so forth and so on, you know, ‸ these guys are always not considered first responders but yeah, they're the ones that clear the roads and so forth and so on and get the water going. and, but we do appreciate them. I know I do. And so, but thank you, sir. Ms. Singer.

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Mr. City Manager. Or,

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I thought this might have been addressed just during the, as a preliminary matter at the meeting but I think it's probably worth noting for the record that this meeting is being held under special circumstances of course under the Governor's Executive Order

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in order to mitigate the transmission

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and deal with the social distancing issues and orders and health official guidelines that the Governor adopted this Executive Order. ‸ This Executive Order allows local governments to suspend the physical quorum requirement for the governing body, as well as suspend holding a meeting at a specific public place. In other words,

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is permitted under this Executive Order to apply Florida statutes regarding remote telephonic meetings which some state agencies are ‸ permitted to do. So that's the way this ‸ meeting is being conducted.

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regarding this meeting and, you know, for the ‸ record, ‸ this meeting can be available for access by the public on Internet addresses that are ‸ specified in the notice. In addition, interested persons could submit written comments or questions regarding this meeting to a special email address that's in the notice,

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Further, interested persons who wish to provide public input on agenda items during the meeting will also be able to do so by calling

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during the course of this meeting. Again, all of this is being pursuant to the Governor's Executive Order.

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Thank you, sir.

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Is that it? That's

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my report. Thank you, sir.

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Yes, related to COVID-19, I've provided you all a situational report that has some highlighted items related to changes since the last one you received

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Just some of the highlights in there. While we were in the meeting, we did just receive the 6 p.m. update from the state of Florida.

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in the state as of 11 a.m. And as of 6.05 p.m. there were 1,867. So we are continuing to see those numbers grow.

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So did you say 1,867, so almost 200 from morning to evening? That's

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right, yeah. So

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that's more than doubled since Saturday. Yeah.

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One of the other highlights that's included in here is city staff is internally working on the implementation of the family medical leave Corona

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This is a pretty significant piece of legislation that has a lot of implications related to the city operations that we are exploring daily to try to ensure that we're complying with the law as well as providing our essential municipal services. And so we're very close to pushing out the policy to our employees and then fielding any questions or comments that they may have, which I would imagine we will have some because it's fairly significant as far as what ‸ the allowances are under the law. I believe

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mentioned the most recent executive order by the governor

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citizenry to adhere to.

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your risk as much as possible. That being the same for those with underlying medical conditions, they're also perceived to be at high risk. And then the final update that's kind of changed since you know what the information the Department of Health was putting out was that they do encourage those employers still under operations to provide teleworking opportunities where they're available to reduce that contact. And the city has been doing that. You'll see on the update we currently have 22 employees that are out telecommuting. That does vary day-to-day as we move schedules as well as those who are in and out of City Hall to accommodate child care issues and other operational issues that we encounter. We look for that number to grow. We did receive some additional equipment that we ordered last week to make that available to even more employees.

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the end of March at this point in time. Depending on the expansion of these cases they will be reviewing that as well. Our garbage services through waste management their call center staff like ours are telecommuting but they're fully operational as far as our garbage services go. ‸ I do have some decisions for City Council to make. If you recall at the last City Council meeting this past Tuesday City Council approved the cancellation of all City meetings with the exception of the City Council meetings and that we would take it meeting by meeting and so

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we did look at a modified meeting but we were able to make it happen in ‸ pretty short time frame and obviously we're going to learn a little bit from this meeting and make it better next time but it would be my recommendation that the next meeting the first meeting in April that we would continue based on information we have ‸ from the CDC for the social distancing that we would limit that meeting to CMT only and I believe we need council action on that.

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We would we would limit it to CMT only

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rather than having ‸ basically hold it like we are tonight or now

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yes definitely

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okay and then at the next meeting we'll reevaluate it based on the current conditions yes sir which means that

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prior to it the CRA meeting as well that would be canceled okay

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is there any reason why we need to have the CRA meeting

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there were a couple of items I believe that were coming through one of them was the 603 Brevard modified agreement

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so that

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it's not important that we have one we can always do it ‸ there's

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nothing that's causing a project to stop or an important budgetary decision

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speak a little bit I guess about the parks and open spaces and we can continue to keep those open we will work with Brevard County on some of the issues that you all highlighted and then we'll try to maintain consistency with them if we get to the point of instituting some sort of closure we'll do that I did want to mention that we did modify some of the timing of the restroom closures I believe it's at 6 p.m. they're

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they are closing those off I did receive a email I believe it was yesterday from councilman cost related to the first billing that $2.99 convenience fee for those that pay their utility bill through credit card and

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and then also sent it out to each member of council so you could review that it is something it is a city council decision on what you'd want to do with that I can cover cover some ‸ information that I ‸ provided if you hadn't had time to read it but essentially we've reached out to our vendor first billing and they they're unable to just waive that fee because they're being charged by the banking institutions and so they do make a small margin but that I mean that's essentially their business practice so the option the city would have and this is the way we used to operate is that the city would or the water utility would essentially pay those fees instead of passing it on to the customers the utility would have to cut that check and in 2014 I attached the agenda ‸ but it's around a quarter million dollars

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water utility

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the annual rate study so essentially all you're doing is just spreading that back over the other customers next year and you know is that is that really the prudent thing to do it's offered as a convenience

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fee

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‸ numerous ways that our customers have to pay their bill we're waiving late fees currently we're not shutting water off so it'd be my recommendation that we wouldn't do that but that's obviously a council decision

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and I looked at it too ‸ and I think we should just keep it just the way it is because we do have options so that's just my take on it

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yeah of course I was the one that raised it based on a call that I received from a constituent as well as next door neighbor it's been our next door neighbor just one thing question and I mean maybe this I guess I don't have a clear understanding ‸ first billing they just manage any kind of master card or American express or any transaction so they're a middleman

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that's right

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so rather than dealing straight with those ‸ we pay them and for example the water bill that I received today I'll actually be paying it's between 5 and 6 percent not 3 percent 299 is almost 6 percent of my water bill so just I was trying to figure out how we came up with the 250,000 because if we have 80,000 customers I guess we're assuming that everybody would be using a charge card

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no ‸ those were actuals that were included in that agenda item

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okay so that's a lot it is we have a lot of people that use credit cards

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when there were

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‸ no fees assessed for it it was very convenient for customers

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and now we have a situation where well we'd hope that people don't have to use credit cards to pay basic things like water but we could very well at some point run into that I think it's something you know maybe the utility advisory board will look at I mean

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and so

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whenever I like you know

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me to pay with a credit card

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fee just because I didn't have the cash in my pocket and now we're at a point ‸ where

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there are many businesses only accepting Apple pay because they don't want to touch cash

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that doesn't use a hard currency like that so I'm fine with you know passing on this but I think it needs to be brought to the attention of the advisory board and to really be given a good look at because

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percentage I do their profit margin is pretty significant and yeah so there's a way you know we're as a government as a city we want to act of course in the best interest of our citizens we're not here for the purpose of creating a

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you know an opportunity for a business to profit as much as we

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to represent their best

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yeah councilman

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Warner I

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remember when we made that change and made that decision and it was not an easy decision because there were a lot of people using that including I think at the time all of us were using that to method to ‸ pay our bill ‸ but at the end of the day

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who are because we were paying that fee out of the utility funds and I mean it's like with any you know anytime you use a credit card somebody's paying the fee whether

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using it at the gas pumps or where somebody's paying the fee so I don't necessarily want to change it but I think that we might have some individual customers who I know as a matter of fact one of ‸ the comments on next door is from a customer who's homebound with MS so paying by credit card and

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to that customer you know the other methods bank card whatever where they could pay it

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‸ for

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some people it's just easier to go online and do it with a credit card than it is to set it up through your banking account

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it so I think we can get around those individuals ‸ who have an issue with it and but I think we need to be cognizant of that that we do have customers who especially right now can't necessarily come down and pay their water bill so any other method that we can get them and if our customer service people on the phone can you know maybe think outside the box a little bit and figure out a way that some of these people can get their bill paid some of these people that are homebound and you ‸ may not even have you know friends and family who are willing to get out now and do those things for them so ‸ I think as long ‸ as we're aware of those things and we're willing to deal with them on an individual basis we can keep this fee I ‸ pay it most of people I know pay it without complaining about it

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stuff coming up again we'll get to look at the numbers and see how many people are actually using it now and it might make a ‸ difference we'll see

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thank you ma'am deputy ma'am oh

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I was just going to say real quick so I did when I was researching this I did call the line you know to pay my bill that way and of course they identify themselves as third party and that they can help you with any bill problems and tell you about the charge but

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pay my bills I call the number on my bill to pay it and it's not even someone that could answer a question or so anyway just another reason why I want to continue to look into

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to be

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the service industries

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down right now but there's a lot of people that are in some industries that pretty much are shut down so I know we're not doing shut offs now but what about those people if this thing lasts three to four months and those particular industries like a bar for example who's a bartender that's their career what's going to happen to those individuals who rack up you know now kids are home

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what's going to happen with that 400

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what's going to happen with ‸ payment plan I'm assuming but just looking forward I know that's something we probably got to get really prepared for

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yeah ‸ we were actually talking about that internally today on how

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is something that's within our current policy and we would take ‸ a proactive approach to that even prior to you know the end of this spread to contact them and encourage if they can ‸ pay something now because it's going to continue to build but also potentially roll out some sort of standardized payment plan because every situation is unique and it does take a lot of time for each customer service representative to talk through those details and work those out with our customers so looking at our policies as far as the maximum allowed payment plans and setting some standards and then working with those customers individually to okay

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one more item okay we did meet on believe it or not regular business to some extent continues ‸ and we did meet with our consultant SM&E related to the parks and open space master plan today and they are going to establish a steering committee for this plan and

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and so they want to get this not the actual steering committee underway but they want to get their work underway starting next week so if there were any sort of closure to the parks they can get that kind of work done now

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but

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if you all would like to appoint a member of that committee please send that appointment to Carrie Sheely if you could by this Friday there's someone you can think of and then

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to appoint like a liaison to that committee these meetings would be in the daytime most likely in the public engagement in the evening so if there's a consensus amongst you for a member to appoint

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I want to be it go for it I really do I really do I'm very excited about the grant that we were awarded this week

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but it wasn't on when you started no go ahead I'm sorry go ahead

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I don't know if you were going to report on the grant

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that we got from the

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department of consumer affairs I actually called up there today to ask them about that there were only three municipalities that received this three year grant starting with the first year is a tree inventory the second year is a management plan the third year is actual plantings and other activities but it puts us on kind of a top shelf list it was Panama City

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were the other two municipalities that received it but we beat out Satellite Beach

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there were two separate grants we applied for this one being the one we really wanted because it took a more comprehensive approach to our tree canopy and that that will require an annual budgeted amount for year one two and three and we will for the first year the award amount is 25,000 and proposed matching 55,000 and that's for the assessment of our urban forest and then the year two the award is 15,000 and the match was 15,000 by the city and then same with year three so it was a competitive process and we were quite surprised to hear that we were awarded

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and we also that sets us up positions us to get other grants I don't know if you're aware of that but with

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I think given even this pandemic and the appreciation for outdoor spaces it's at least it's a little silver lining something to be optimistic about

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that we the last time we did a tree study was back in the early 2000s was it

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don't have anything documented I

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remember when we did one ‸ and when did we lose our tree city designation that

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was in the early 2000s I believe when those signs went in

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well I know we still had it in 2004 so it would have been after that that we lost it so

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it was it was after ‸ the organization when we resubmitted they'll provide us the dates because they keep the history of those cities it

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would be nice to ‸ find that old study that we did and compare ‸ what's happened between now and then yeah ‸ we'll

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get a GIS database ‸ that we can we'll maintain going forward so we won't lose that data and that

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measure the inch of the trees the type of trees all that locations

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don't have

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issue with councilwoman

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and just the last item there was some inquiry as far as what is the how is the market impacting the city's finances and just wanted to provide just a little bit of an update as you as you know the city's investment policy there's two main objectives and that's safety and liquidity which were very important as we look at the impacts of the coronavirus

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or the dot-com collapse and just in a

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that's 22 days and that was as of Saturday or end of closing last week the 2008 financial crisis that was

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so and then the dot-com crash that was actually

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and so we're looking at a pretty steep loss ‸ and just to give an idea you know our we not only evaluated our funds that we hold and we'll get a detailed report for you all to see especially when we see this kind of level off of course the last few days it's bumped up

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on the condition of the city's pension plans that being for public safety as well as the general employees and the police pension so far this calendar year was only a loss

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which was I think good news when looking at the total loss

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and so they they had a little less risk as far as their stock so some prudent investment there when we received the analysis on the fire pension we'll also provide that with the financial report but as far as the city's budget goes annually we are working with our financial advisor

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as they come in this year to do the financial modeling for each of our funds the general fund storm water fund utility fund they will be evaluating each of those revenue sources and

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but they're going to be able to give you an idea of how this change in

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be seeing so that'll be a conversation when they're on site with the one-on-ones with each member of council that's my report

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thank you sir councilman

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yes ma'am

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well first of all Matt I really appreciate you're really being seasoned by fire here aren't ‸ you and I really appreciate how quickly and thoroughly responded to all my questions I've been getting a lot of ‸ you guys but I've been getting a lot of calls in regard to the pandemic in regard to the county's response and concern with communications and concern with the leadership being shown there

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the county right so and we haven't and as you explained to me and maybe you should explain it for everybody else because I think

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applies to all the incorporated and unincorporated municipalities and that for us to go into our own state of emergency would actually kick in a lot of things that are not really relevant to dealing with this particular crisis if I'm summing that up correctly right

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yeah council may recall

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you approved some modifications to our purchasing policy in advance so we could get those orders in for the preventative supplies to combat the spread of COVID-19 and

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for in prior events hurricane type events you know you're facing physical damage to a certain location within the county and so we declared that emergency in those instances so we can activate some other employment policies in order to ensure that we can protect the residents in advance and then also respond appropriately in this particular case it's a public health emergency and it's really being ran at the federal and state level and the county level to some degree

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okay so one of the questions that I got today was actually Morris Park who has up our fire pension board right so there's a

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it may even have been approved at this point I haven't listened to the news so and there were quite a few things in there that were available to municipalities now

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we be applying on our own do we have somebody that will be tracking that? Or are we dependent on the county to do that because

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so for the reimbursement declaration yeah the county's declaration of emergency also included the municipalities and unincorporated areas within the county and that allows the city to seek reimbursement under the FEMA guidelines

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so ‸ we'll

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have somebody on that

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yes we already you can see on the the report that I provided you we have the FEMA event number already assigned we've already secured our spot for the reimbursement and with the purchases we're making in our financial system we've been tracking that so we can provide that information to FEMA yeah

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then I got another call in well he wants a stay-at-home order I don't know you know what's within our power to do here but certainly I mean I see people outside and I think it's okay to be outside. you know in small groups or

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so but our ability to enforce anything is, do we have the ability to enforce anything I guess what we're doing with the police department is really great you know

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think one of the challenges we would have is that we while

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far as Brevard County the most significant state roadway network through our city and so you still have folks passing through our city that would make it very difficult and the police chief could maybe speak to that but to institute something like that would need to be more regional like you're seeing over in Orange County

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and now Osceola County

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we are aware it

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yeah as long as the governor's not going to do it

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counties yeah

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and then I wanted to thank Samantha for putting together those the video that so we have because that was one of the suggestions made me by a constituent to have a video we can put out on social media but on the website and I know that I think yesterday was Matt and the mayor that were in a kind of an interview format

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but I'm wondering I don't think the interview format is quite right for this

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this and when I think about the appropriate person for that it would be Chief Lamb and like I've read the newspaper today in regard to the politicization of the communications at the county level, and I would really like to avoid that. myself I would prefer I don't need to be in those videos I mean I want to be able to pose questions but I really feel like we need a face to the crisis that and I think he's got a very calm demeanor and, you know, his voice is pretty soothing and gives us confidence

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Yeah, and it will depend on the topic for each one because there's certain questions that, yes, he would be able to answer and there's certain questions that may be more appropriate for another person to answer. So it'll be based on that's why

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that and I we can set it up

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officials ‸ are out in front of this and that they are asking ‸ the questions that are coming in. And so

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the videos.

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We can definitely structure each one differently but it was to make sure that we know that our elected officials are asking the questions and getting the answers that your constituents are asking so okay

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then I think maybe what it is is that we just need more shoulder shots and the you know sitting in the relaxed environment Of course it showed that we had them six feet apart. That was good. But the kind of you know quick flash get the news out I'm just thinking that

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and I just wanted to say I think

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given you know this public health emergency yeah

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and also I want to say to that too is that please ‸ keep the questions coming if you let me know what those questions are I'm working on an FAQ add-on to our website as well. So I'm taking the questions that you're giving me and when we have answers putting those on there

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from your constituents please let me know what they are and I'll make sure to update that on our website as well

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okay great I have one other item Okay. And that is something that I've already spoken with Matt about but

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questions I'm informed by others questions and I'm sometimes frustrated because our meetings will go so long and I'm aware that people don't have patience for the questions questions and so I end up maybe not asking them at the end or there are times when you know that's just a frustration so I've just been asking around other council members I know I sought advice from the attorney general's Office as well as speaking with the League of Cities and one of the options that was posed to me was doing an agenda review meeting. And what this involves is basically a publicly noticed meeting where we ask questions so I have the benefit of hearing your questions,

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that meeting.

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just kind of going through the business, not a lot of questions in the business detail. However you have more time for the public hearings, for you know public ‸ discussion I believe it would be a way to make things a little more transparent. Because one of my concerns a lot of times I'll ask questions and directors know this I'll even let them know what my questions are ahead of time. Because they're questions that have been posed to me and I remember when I was sitting in the audience and the council would make decisions and

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‸ So now they are not as I understand

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the school boards and the other cities that do this, they're not mandatory. So if a council member can't make it, you know, they're not required to be there. you

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you

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don't have to have all the directors there. It works just like a workshop, right? and I'm wondering I don't know Matt what you think about. Is this the time to think about doing something like that or I know that you weren't opposed to the idea.

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I was gonna ‸ if I can comment on it. There's just so much going on right now. There's so many different things that we're doing right now

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But trying to you know I just I mean I guess am I the only one that has

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meetings with the city manager no

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no I

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get my questions

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answered before the

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meeting. Right. So we all have separate meetings.

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the issues. There may be things you want to talk about privately.

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just just my advice. Don't worry about other people and their opinions on your questions. yeah Ask your questions. so That's ‸ why we're here. If someone gets out of hand and and and are being immature while you are asking those questions,

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that's something that the mayor needs to handle. He controls the meeting. So do not be concerned. That's my opinion. It's just, you know, ask your question That's why we're here.

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They want to know that that you are asking those, no matter how long it is. It is what it is so I appreciate your question even sometimes I may not understand what your question may be, but that's for you.

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So that's just my opinion.

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‸ but always remember that. And something I thought was a good practice and and I know I got frustrated a few times when I

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answered and I asked it in the council meeting. If you can ask those questions prior to the meeting to the staff and get those answers and get it back to whoever you need to get it back to,

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sometimes when you I mean if you're of the, of the, my director if you got a question I mean, that's the best time to ask that question. Because sometimes we come in here, they're not prepared for your, you know, for your question. And they don't have an answer. And they kind of, and they kind of have them sitting there looking like, you know, and now so if you, know

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that's what I'm saying is that that would be an opportunity I mean even if that particular staff person wasn't there.

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Yeah. be

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an opportunity to go back and just know what ‸ the questions are before you're in the more formal council meeting.

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Yeah.

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So if there is no consensus I am going to bring this up again because I think what it does is it, it allows for more sunshine. It allows for more transparency and I think it's at least worth a shot. And particularly when we look at

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but ‸ Yeah. And maybe

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that's a decision for the new council to make because,

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with, with new council members. So, you know, it depends on, you know, somebody who has a full-time job, doesn't have a job, you know, children at home I mean everybody's situation is different. So adding another meeting to what people are already doing may work for some people that may not work for others.

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when the staff is here? Do you ask the staff to stay over another night? You know, there's a lot of considerations. ‸ So, you know, maybe it's something to look at. transparency.

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And putting sunshine on our business

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Yeah. No. Meeting of you. ‸ Council members? Council members meeting with you.

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it's hard to say I mean there's organized meetings and then there's phone calls, there's drop-ins, all kinds of correspondence.

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okay ‸ well I've been reluctant to you know bother you because I don't know most of

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valuable. Most of my questions usually are in the form of an email and information gets passed back or, you know, it's usually just a quick question and sometimes the staff and sometimes it's the city manager but I

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Yeah,

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not an hour on each agenda. But some of it, I think too is because you're right I do have more background I probably

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a lot more questions my first couple ‸ years on council and I'm sure the mayor did too so we probably have less need for all of that because we see stuff and we know where the background is that where you two probably don't. so So he's probably not spending as much time with us as he's spending with the two of you. So, yeah.

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other than to say I am getting a lot of questions which

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and I'm kind of surprised at some of the concerns I'm getting and some of the things that that people are looking to the city for that that I would have thought they would have been looking to the state and the county for. And and that's been a bit of ‸ surprise

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I'm finding that there's a lot of people that don't understand where the lines are in government and

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one of the ‸ things that I am seeing is that, you know, even though we have a city manager form of government in every city in this county does with the exception of

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and I think after

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together yesterday, some of that will calm down because a lot of that was generated by the fact that nobody was getting any information from the county. And what little bit of information was going out was going out to limited resources. And our major news sources were not being including and stuff that was going out so I think some of that will calm down too but I agree with Councilwoman cause I think Chief Lamb should be the spokesperson for the city, not just because of his demeanor and his calmness and the fact that he wears that white shirt and gives everybody a lot of confidence. But because he is our emergency management director. however I don't mind you know being the person to ask him the questions in the video so that they can see. As long as we give

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I think he's the person that people want to hear the expert information from but I don't mind being you know playing reporter and asking him the questions to do a video or whatever, something along those lines, so that you get both. You get Jonathan's expertise and maybe get the you know the Council's faces out there if that's what it is you're looking to do but I ‸ really do agree that he I'm more comfortable when he tells me something as much as I love Mike Cantaloupe I'd rather hear it from Jonathan Lamb because Mike's look at that face I mean do you want to lose you know

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everybody that's it for me Mr. Mayor.

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Well one concern I had about the I know we have some parks that do have bathrooms. There are several parks in our city that do not have bathrooms.

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a partnership or something with the wash stations and some of those parks that do not have a bathroom Because we have quite a few, definitely, in

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to wash their hands so I don't

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thought about that but ‸ maybe could be a possibility.

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You know what I even those parks without bathrooms I think they have water hookups there for when they come over to hold stuff down.

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That's a whole nother story. They have parks and recs in some areas within our city. They

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the need to go through and cut lines and cap off the

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spigots.

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Yeah. Provost Park is one.

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have a spigot. Why

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did they do that?

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but ‸ I get it but I understand where

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So ‸ I don't know if that's an option or not but maybe that could be a conversation.

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Yeah. So the and we

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a few of those and

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rotated those to high traffic employee areas. We could look at some of the parks as far as hooking up. You also got to worry about sewer. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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there. Okay. So there's ‸ we looked at it with our city facilities. There's a lot that goes into that. Obviously we'd have to secure them. Right. But there's certain activities in the parks that. You know unless you're playing basketball by yourself. Right. You shouldn't be playing basketball in a group because everyone's touching the ball. Right. Right. Right. You know so there's some activities that we would discourage in the parks but. We can we can look at that.

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that don't have the turn signals. and looking at upgrading some of our traffic. Lights and within our city and. I'm. Pleased to know that the Brevard County. Traffic operations is that actually are looking into doing a master plan for. Some of our lights.

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or indoor door. That don't necessarily. That need better technology at our lights. And so they. I talked to Mr. Smith about it. Yesterday. And

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So I'm happy about that. ‸ Big thanks

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churches that. Are providing meals for a lot of our students and parents in most places. So I really really appreciate them for doing that. I think that's that's really good especially for. A lot of people that don't have transportation. And a lot of kids who don't eat at home really rely on. School meals.

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doubling their sites. So that's another thing that's that's really really good. The next question is for for Tammy. Dealing with the teen summer work program. Is that I know that's coming up really really soon. I know we have we got a lot going on. But where are we with that?

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We recently because of the school closures. We're going to have an internal meeting to talk about it with a resource. We need to make a

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to the school.

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Obviously for the safety of the students as well. So it might might not be a great experience if they can't have the full experience. So but and I'm not sure if so we're having ‸ internal meeting this week about it. ‸ To talk to career source and make sure that they're okay with doing it.

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past it was like in a classroom with you know all 15 kids or so. Gotcha.

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Okay. I was I was thinking about that.

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You maybe do virtual training but it's the hands-on experience with the kids.

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the mechanics. Better experience for them and they get that work place experience.

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Okay. All

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right. That's all I really had. Again. I really like that we came out today with the showing the process of how to be engaged in our meeting. I know.

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something new for all of us.

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to make sure everything is transparent so people understand what to do when they're watching. Because sometimes even though we put it on the granite

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some people that don't understand the process. But when the flyer that you sent out today this morning. I think it details. Everything I think if you continue pushing that out. Oh I think people will be you know some people don't watch the meeting anyway but. Those that do just need to be informed so I appreciate you for that.

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Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. ‸ It's very low. I actually have that down here too.

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Yeah. I did hear that it's better on YouTube than it is on Granicus but they still can't hear so that's definitely something we're going to have to address.

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Okay.

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We'll go with it. Thank you.

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Yes sir. Okay. First of all I want to thank you Matt for the work you've been doing. You've been doing an excellent job and and Chief Cantaloupe. You guys going out to the parks and addressing those issues.

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mean

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really do appreciate that man. That was a big concern of mine and some others have been sending me some emails and you guys were right on it so I appreciate that.

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that they're serving. The hot meals that they're serving ‸ the bag lunches that they're serving to the kids and I know that

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it doesn't matter if you're a kid ‸ or not. I mean you could be an adult if you need a meal they're going to give you a hot meal. So but kudos to all the volunteers that are helping out. Today Pebbles catering there for Dixon and the celebration tabernacle church and the real church.

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day hot meals to residents and I'm telling you I stopped by there. I left the house and

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around the building.

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No, I actually mentioned that to them when they were spacing out. Yeah, they were. And but ‸ it was a nice event and I guess they were going to feed and just serve food until they ran out for the night. And I think they're going to do that for the next two nights, I believe starting at

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And also just remind the public that we're going to continue to, you know, to keeping them informed and updated on the latest ‸ reference to this. Coronavirus. And then chief lamb. Captain

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wanted to be here. He wanted me to thank you and your firefighters that came out. When he had his little incident here at the last council meeting, ‸ he was really, really appreciative of that. And like I said, he wanted to be here. But of course, you know, the best thing for him is to be in. So so I'm passing that on to you and I appreciate you guys too as well. There was one other thing

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here.

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That was another issue. Some folks were talking about the mics here and how they're not getting those. And hopefully we'll start looking into maybe that and upgrading our screens here with some larger screens and maybe a little bit lower, you know, you know, just more. Once we get up and going again, hopefully in this next budget. ‸ But I'm not going to prolong this any longer. So we're going to I'm going to go ahead and end these reports and move on to our consent agenda.

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Motion to approve.

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All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed.

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unanimously. We're

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Administrative Services.

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Yes, sir. This is consideration of Miss Debbie Joyce as a representative of the school board of Brevard County on the planning and zoning board. So the

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and the city was officially notified. March 11th of their appointee. So.

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Yes, ma'am. And I got to meet her at the last planning and zoning board meeting.

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very nice and pleasant young lady. Very smart lady.

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and she is, we're fortunate to have such a caliber.

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Her background is in construction planning and development and she was, ‸ she was a director at Tampa's housing authority. So she has quite a rich experience and expertise to, to bring to the planning and zoning and she'll be a good liaison to the school board as well.

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Thank you, ma'am.

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A second from Councilwoman Warner. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. ‸ Opposed. Passes unanimously. Okay, number two, consider, consideration of ‸ donation application for Marine Resource Council. Administrative services.

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Yes, sir. This is an, an additional donation application received for, for y'all to consider.

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I'm not sure how

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date as far as, um, fiscal year to date. And, um, um, if each Council member, um, fulfills this request, it would remain, your, your remaining balance would be $30 in your,

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on each member's donation budget of $750.

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Mr. Mayor? I support it.

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I just wanted to make one comment. So this was, uh, you know, referred to earlier by Jennifer Riggs' statement. There were 50 COCO citizens that supported that fundraiser and the MRC's efforts, um, and raised almost $4,000. So this is a way to kind of leverage that kind of community enthusiasm and commitment. Um, also, yeah, when, when I tried to make a donation, well, I ended up making a donation at the very end of the fiscal year because we hadn't used our monies last year. So,

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a motion to approve.

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Second,

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Councilwoman Warner.

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Yeah, I just, um, because the Council's money to give away is, and, and I think what the Marine Resources Council, let me start by saying, I think what the Marine Resources Council is doing is, is a wonderful thing.

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have is to give to entities that don't necessarily get money or resources someplace else. Like

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know,

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People whose other resources are limited

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if you look back over our history, it tends to go to, to things for children, you know, for a lot of reasons. And, um, to deal with a lot of groups that have limited ability to raise funds or, and don't have other options or grant money or stuff. So I've kind of always liked to, to use that as a basis for how I make my decisions on whether to, to fund or donate the, the Council's little bit of money.

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it is a very little bit of money that we give away each year. Uh, and for those who don't have the background, we do it this way because there was a time when we didn't have a council meeting without somebody coming and asking for money. And it was, it was very difficult to say no. Um, some of these people were really deserving and, and really needed the money. And it was hard

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you had the football team and the basketball team and the cheerleaders and the baseball team. And then you started having the youth football and the Pop Warner football and, and you can't say yes to everybody. Um, so I always felt like this money was for us to decide which of those entities we were going to help out each year when they really needed the help. Um, so for that reason, I am not going to support this. It's not because I don't support the work of the Marine Resources Council, but our citizens donated a big hunk of money to them a few nights ago. And I would rather save this money for some youth organization or some school or something in the city of Coco that, that has no other options for funding. That's just my two cents.

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and I would just say

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Uh,

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Uh, they are the one organization that is charged with citizen science

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That's what, that distinguishes them from other nonprofits in our county that they actually, uh, leverage, you know, volunteers, um, and citizen science.

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Okay? We didn't have the request for it. Um, so I wanted to make sure that I made the request this year. Also, at least 15 of those people, of the 50 people that made donations that participated in that event, were your constituents. A lot of people you know. Um, so I don't know if that they'll be very happy about your decision not to support it, not to support them when they're putting out a hundred of dollars out of their pocket to make sure that this happens.

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Well, I would hope that they would also support our youth in the city and I.

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they do, I'm sure. Well.

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And we have, and part of the money we've donated has been to youth organizations. Well,

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we got a motion and we got a second. We

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How

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It's just the one with the support of it, what, would contribute. It's just like any other vote. Okay.

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we have a motion

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for the thousand dollars to, for a donation of a thousand dollars.

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Yeah.

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That says yes.

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That's not how,

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that's not how it's gone in the past.

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I mean, Anthony might need to address that, but it's always

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the motion. Yeah, if we voted

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someone else, you know, that didn't want to contribute to this to contribute.

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Right. That's, that's the way we've done it in the past, though.

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thought that was

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our own individual pocket of money, so you can choose not to, or you could say, hey, look, I

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give $50 or $10, whatever it is.

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Right. You said you want to support, you support, you support, you don't support or whoever, and then you just make that motion based on

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it.

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Who's not supporting? It was my understanding, ‸ the way I remember it being.

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We can modify the, the request.

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Right.

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Anthony

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advise.

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Yeah, I don't have

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could amend the motion, if you want to allocate based on council. Yeah. So,

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members,

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if there are only three of you here, that would support a request you could allocate what you have in your individual budget. Right.

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Okay, and I'll just re, remind the rest of council that when I brought this up some time ago,

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that,

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um, I had a certain charity that I was interested in.

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Mm-hmm.

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I was told that basically we vote in unison to make that donation so that it is from council overall, but.

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So we got.

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Anyway,

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whatever we want to do.

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What do we have in each account right now? What was that total?

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I'm not sure if there's a policy. There's an individual budget for each council. Exactly. And then there's other projects. I think the city budgets for, um, on a, on a bigger scale. This is the way, the way it's in the budget. And I don't have the budget line item in front of me that, um, that outlines it.

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I just think in the past, the past, um, practice has been that it's voted as a group. So,

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So I guess.

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Approval of the donation requires councils. Approval of the item.

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Right.

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But I think historically, at least in the last 10 years, probably you have, the city has budgeted an allocation to each council.

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And I can't remember the last time there was a slight disagreement as to, um, the donation. But ultimately, majority of, majority vote of the council, um, prevails. But you have a, if you budgeted each council member individually with a certain amount, I mean, there are budget restrictions that maybe a budget amendment would be ‸ required, right? If you were going to allocate more than their individual budget allocation.

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I recall prior to the end of this past fiscal year, um,

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her account donated. I don't remember. ‸ Yes, it sure did.

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Okay.

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summarized in the item.

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‸ Okay.

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of council? Well,

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that was because at the last minute I realized the money was there. I made the request and got it in.

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fiscal year. ‸ And all I could ask for was my own.

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Yeah, it was 500. Yeah, it was approved by the council on the report.

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Yeah.

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So are you suggesting, Anthony, that they, they just, if they want to do something different, they modify the requested action of what they're approving? Is that what you're saying?

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Yeah, I'll just, yeah, for myself, I'll do the whole $230. ‸ So

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That's what they end up being.

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Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's kind of confusing, Anthony, because how are we going to make a decision about Mr. Bavere without him here anyway? I mean, that's.

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No, it's not coming from his account. Well, I know, but,

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but if we had just went ahead and voted, would it have come from his account or would it have still only been $800? Because we need to clarify, to get some clarification on this for the next time this comes up.

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money, but for the next budget, we need to get some clarification on this. Right, because we're not always all going

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‸ Right,

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So there needs to be some

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clear policy.

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No, no,

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was, it should have been a census on who was donating. Yeah. Because no one should ever be forced to donate to us. Well,

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I know one

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Yeah. So, I mean, that was several years ago, but, you know, I mean, so yeah, there, I just, I'm not so sure we're clear on how this is supposed to work.

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the motion to... I

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will give my full amount.

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Yes.

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Second. We

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All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed?

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passes

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unanimously.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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proposal from Wharton Smith, Incorporated, Sanford, Florida, for the construction phase services for chemical conversion and reliability improvements project at the Dial Water Treatment Plant, WS-1404.

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Master Services Agreement with Wharton Smith, Incorporated, for construction manager at risk services. This is a, uh, quite a large project that you've probably ‸ reviewed from your agenda. It's a 20 million plus project that we're proposing.

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up inside it at the Dial Plant. One of them being is having a second large water transmission line exiting the plant, so we have two ways of getting water out of the plant,

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would be a catastrophic failure.

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the tour, there's that scary room with all the big cylinders in it, and we're going to be moving the liquid sodium hypochlorite a lot safer. A little bit more expensive, but a lot safer for our employees and some training that they need to deal with. And also some hazardous response for the fire folks

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for current with the plant.

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Uh, and that's all in accordance with, uh, the guidelines, the federal guidelines for safety for the facility that we have. So it's a large project and it's also the first project that

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two years ago.

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that's been used by the utility before, but it's the first for us. Uh, we selected a couple of qualified, a heavy civil contractor, Smith being one of them. We asked them to bid on at least a preliminary design that we had at that point on their information. And, uh, we asked them to bid on their overhead general, their profit overhead and general administration costs. We also asked them to bid on, uh, some services,

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in order to develop a, a concurrent design with our

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the, the actual contract that we will build it with the design engineer, we, we get a lot better plans, plans with less gaps in them, plans with maybe less errors and more changes in the future. Uh, and by that teaming process, uh, we think we also get a better price because they, they know more about that plan than anyone would. Uh, and hence we get a guaranteed maximum price that they're very comfortable with. Uh, we've analyzed and

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collected bids from all their subcontractors that they've allowed us to look at. Um, so through that entire process, uh, we believe that we're saving money at the city and we believe that we're gonna ‸ hire a quality project from the selected.

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definitely.

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the big project is the biggest one that I brought to council in 11 years I've been here. Uh, the next one being is that 54 inch that

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did on the big transmission

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Um,

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so, uh,

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this is a big one. I'm excited.

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I've been

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excited. What Smith is a very professional, uh, excellent, uh, firm to work with so far. So we're very excited to be here to answer any questions

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coming out.

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Thank you, sir. Thank you.

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one question.

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Um, so how long will it, what's the anticipated length of the project? It's

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about, uh,

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or 20 months. ‸ The rest of two years.

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ones that have? Okay.

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Warner. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Passed unanimously. Okay. Item number two. In a local agreement between

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in Brevard County Community Development Block Grant funds for pool resurfacing and other pool related improvements at the Dr. Jolie Smith Community Center. These funds will be reimbursed to the city by Brevard County. Uh, CDBG and deposited back into the general fund balance, uh, not to exceed $175,000.

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Thank you, sir.

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I know, I know it's dealing with stucco, um, and

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seen them doing a retaining wall and I know they're doing a resurfacing, but inside ‸ $175,000, does that include inside of that building as well?

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It doesn't cover all the costs of the entire pool area. Yeah.

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there's the chemical feed room. Right.

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Um, there's, uh, a restroom, uh, the showers on the wall there on the exterior. All of that will be renovated, uh, the roof, the walls. So that doesn't cover all of it. There was, uh, an amount in that project budget to cover a portion of it.

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Okay. Motion to approve. We get

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Second.

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All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed.

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passes unanimously. Um, I'll try to see the man to approve a change order for Rush Marine. LLC. Okay.

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Uh, this item is ‸ to authorize the city manager to approve a change order to Rush Marine LLC for installation of 61 anchors to improve the stability and resilience of the seawall along the riverfront park promenade. Uh, approve a resolution amending the FY20 budget, uh, budget amendment form number 20-053-A through the use of general fund balance. Uh, and I can answer any questions. I believe, uh, we actually received, uh, e-comment, uh, on this item. So, somewhat exciting. It's our first electronic comment.

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Um, this comment on this agenda item is from

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Um, and her comment is shortly after the

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seawall and the planters. Um, I wished to be assured that we properly evaluate the drainage of the soils adjacent to the seawall. Concrete can fall victim to water seepage. Water can quickly erode concrete, weakening it. It only takes a crack as wide as a hair to allow water in and the water will take advantage and widen the crack even more. Putting pressure on the wall.

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Will the rebar being installed in the knee wall be properly coated to resist expansion or rust? Will drains evacuate? Water spilling into the plant beds during storms? These questions should be addressed before moving forward with this design. I also followed up by email regarding these concerns and was assured these engineering questions would be part of the final design. Were these studies done? If so, did it indicate that what would be done to avoid any of these potential issues?

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Why were these ties not part of the original bid? Thank you.

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Okay. So I also received the email just prior to the city council meeting, which I appreciate. So not only

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we get the comment, but we also can get some information to provide a response to the citizen. And essentially the project was underway and as ‸ if you go out there now and look at it from Lee Winter Park, you can see that portion from the actual walkway to the seawall is completely open three, four feet down. There's a deep hole where they're doing the utility work and they'll be replacing right behind the seawall is where the knee wall will be positioned. And that drops below the surface approximately three feet. And then it's, you know, continuously poured concrete footer that goes across the bottom of the planter bed.

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seawall area.

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They, in the course of digging that up is when they

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those tie backs that provide structural support to the seawall were actually severed almost ‸ every one of them. And there's 61 down there. They may not have to replace all of them, but they're estimating it's likely each and every one of them. And that auger, the piece of metal that they use to join ‸ the seawall to that tie back is a galvanized metal to resist corrosion.

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the elements. So this was a, yes, a cost effective measure to ensure that our seawall is secure. After Hurricane Irma, they did an inspection of that because there was some washout right behind the seawall that went a few feet deep. And you could actually see some of these tie backs. Well, in those locations and digging back a little bit more, you couldn't see any damage there. But further back, there were some is where they were separated.

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I did have one email just come in from Jennifer Riggs that did ask, can you explain how this need came to light?

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and it needed to be addressed or, you know, we could potentially in a future storm lose the ‸ park could be washed out. Yeah,

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and

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it wasn't something they

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see immediately,

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so, but um.

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So they found it in the excavation, it was, it was all underground, so it wasn't anything the engineers could have seen prior to.

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unless they excavated an entire tie back.

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Oh, just to clarify, this has nothing to do with the design we selected. This is, would have to be, that seawall would have to be backed up with whatever design we had selected, as long as we are maintaining the seawall.

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Some of you may recall FDOT was doing some work under our, the 520 bridge there.

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the seawall itself, those tie backs. That's why they had to take down a railing, close that connector and make those necessary repairs. So it is, it's a regular maintenance item. I don't know when it was last uncovered for us, but. Yeah.

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It would have been, when we

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the park in.

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probably.

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There would have been a road over the top of those previously.

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the prior wall.

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It'll be stronger than it currently is.

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Okay, but not stronger than it was brand new.

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comment on that.

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Don't comment on that.

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But it has nothing to do with the design we selected.

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I appreciate your quick response because I responded probably right before you responded before the meeting as well. So. Thank you, sir. Is there any more?

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Yeah, I have some. I do know that. I know what she's talking about. ‸ Because sometime when that, when the sea rises and they keep crashing on that existing seawall, it's going to be a slight gap between the knee wall and the existing seawall. So, but I believe, just in my opinion, just by doing this work, that five foot footer is going to help a whole lot with ‸ keeping it steady and keeping the foundation. So, you know, nothing is 100%.

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But I believe this design is going to do the job. So, that's all I have.

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And these are the experts. They've been doing this for a long time.

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So, but anyway.

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‸ have one question. Yes, ma'am. I'm sorry.

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in your response, one of the parts of her question was original engineering study was done. So, when you said our engineers designed it to make sure that the water was not an issue in eroding the seawall. Is ‸ that answering the question she had? Because the question was, we were supposed to do an engineering survey to see what effect the water would have on the wall.

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Yeah. And at that time,

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question was whether FEMA was going to accept the placement of a wall there versus an alternate design from a structural perspective.

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And that's why they did that poured footer all in one piece to add some ‸ structural integrity to that wall.

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That's right. ‸ We had told her originally a year ago when she had her original questions that an engineering study would be done prior to any design.

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study.

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had to make modifications. If you recall,

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summer,

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late spring. Well, I think it was back

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in June that she had originally asked the question. Yeah.

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A long timeframe before we had any action. If we're going back and reevaluating their plan to ensure that with those adjustments made, you know, we'd still get a quality product that would withstand the forces.

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was just trying

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to make sure that we got the part of her question about the engineering study answered because that seemed to me to be because she's saying I was told there would be an engineering study. Was there an engineering study and what did it show? So, that answers the question. Okay. Thank you.

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All in favor signify by saying ‸ aye. Aye. Opposed? It passes unanimously. Okay, we can move on to our item number four. Which is a multi-year ‸ contract. Utilities director.

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Yes, sir. Thank you, mayor. This is item number four. Approve the task order 2020-05 to CH2M for engineering services during construction for the Dial Water Treatment Plant Chemical Conversion and Reliability Improvements Project. Project number WS 1404 to approve the multi-year contract from fiscal years 2020 through 2022. So, this is obviously related to the previous agenda item that I just did. Services during construction include on-site inspections, meetings, coordination, change orders, RFIs, that kind of thing.

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I just wanted to ask, is the 2.4 million, is that in addition to the 20 million

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that a part of the 20 million?

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And

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general, the services during construction generally run, you know, 10% is probably the industry average.

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actually, there's actually training also included in that. So, it's not just services because

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teach our operators how to run it now with the different disinfectant that we're using, liquid versus gas.

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Thank you, sir.

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Second.

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And

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just so I'm wait a minute so we can call the question when he comes in here.

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Well, can I ask about, it's CH2M Hill, but, well CH2M now, but I thought

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When they did this particular project, which was an individual award for their services, they were CH2M Hill at the time.

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So,

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they're

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under that name until the contract expired.

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Thank you, sir. Mr. Deputy Mayor, we got a ‸ motion from Councilwoman Warner.

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All in favor signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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‸ Opposed. It passes unanimously. Okay, we can move on to item number five. Yes,

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sir. Thank you. Number five,

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approve the second and final amendment to purchase agreement with Henderson Diving, also known as Logan Diving and Salvage, effective ‸ March 5th, 2020, March 5th, 2020 through March 4th, ‸ 2022 under RFQ 14-9-COC for the subaqueous pipeline assessment work. So, as you know, we have a couple, we had actually two diving companies that originally had been awarded services. We primarily had ended up using Logan. They were one of the first ones to respond

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the first time we had to actually call him.

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Thank you, sir.

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Yeah, I didn't see a price. How much is it?

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This is not for a task order. This is simply to approve the contract. Okay.

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okay.

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Motion to approve. We

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Second. Second from Councilwoman Warner. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed. It passes unanimously. Item number six. Yes,

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sir. Number six is to approve task order

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for the Dial Water Treatment Plant chemical conversion and reliability improvement project. This is project WS-1404 and to approve its multi-year contract from 2020 through 2022.

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Thank you, sir.

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of record. So, together all these items combined, you know, combined for the total project.

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Thank you, sir. Motion to approve. We got a motion from Councilwoman Warner.

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All in favor signify by saying ‸ aye. Aye. Opposed. It passes unanimously. Thank you, sir. If I can get a

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Motion to adjourn.

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a motion from Councilwoman Warner. Second from Deputy Mayor Goins. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye.

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‸ Thank you.

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