Code Enforcement

Code Enforcement Regular Meeting

Date
2022-04-21
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #888
Built from the City's minutes records — no AI-written text Briefing final

The City's record

What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (1186_CE_Reg_Minutes_04_21_2022.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Jim Gifford, Edward Green, George Brown, Kimberly Curtis
  • Arrived after the roll: David Lightholder (the minutes note: “6:23 arrived”)
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines; no independent membership list of this board is available to confirm that the roll is complete.)
  • Listed absent: Lloyd Roberts, Sharri Scott, Jocelyn Scott
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Dennis Bunt (Code Enforcement Manager), Jason Collins (Police Officer), Augusto Gonzalez-Ruiz (Code Enforcement Officer), Michael Potts (Code Enforcement Officer), Debra Babb-Nutcher (Board Attorney), Darla Crowl (Recording Secretary)

Adopted actions (9)

  • to approve to the agenda of April 21, 2022 (moved by Green, seconded by Brown); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 1
  • to approve to the minutes of March 17, 2022 (moved by Brown, seconded by Green); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 2
  • to amend Staff's recommendation and a fine of twenty-five dollars ($25.00) and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Green, seconded by Brown); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 3
  • to amend Staff's recommendation and give the property owner (90 days) until July 26, 2022 and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Curtis, seconded by Lightholder); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 3
  • to amend Staffs recommendation and give the property owner (90 days) until July 26, 2022 and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Lightholder, seconded by Green); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 4
  • to approve Staff's recommendation and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Brown, seconded by Green); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 4
  • to amend Staff's recommendation and give the property owner (90 days) until July 26, 2022 a fine of twenty-five dollars ($25.00) and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Brown, seconded by Green); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 5
  • to approve Staffs recommendation and find the Owner in Non-Compliance (moved by Lightholder, seconded by Green); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 5
  • to approve staff's recommendation to City Council the lien reduction be in the amount of One thousand nine dollars and eighty-four cents ($1009.84) (moved by Brown, seconded by Lightholder); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 6

Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)

  • $25.00 — Code Enforcement: decided in an adopted motion. “amend Staff's recommendation and a fine of twenty-five dollars ($25.00) and find the Property Owner in violation” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (1186_CE_Reg_Minutes_04_21_2022.pdf, p. 3); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $25.00 — Code Enforcement: decided in an adopted motion. “amend Staff's recommendation and give the property owner (90 days) until July 26, 2022 a fine of twenty-five dollars ($25.00) and find the Property Owner in violation” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (1186_CE_Reg_Minutes_04_21_2022.pdf, p. 5); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $1009.84 — Code Enforcement: recommended to another body (City Council decides; not a final approval). “approve staff's recommendation to City Council the lien reduction be in the amount of One thousand nine dollars and eighty-four cents ($1009.84)” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (1186_CE_Reg_Minutes_04_21_2022.pdf, p. 6); fiscal period not recorded)

Agenda (the City's wording)

The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (CE_Reg_Agenda_04_21_2022), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.


Transcript Partial transcript

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Good evening. Good evening. Good evening.
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This is the Code Enforcement
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ask you to stand with me to pledge the flag.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands,
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one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice
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for all.
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Jim Gifford.
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Present.
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George Brown.
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Present.
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Ed Green.
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Here.
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Dave Lightholder. Sherry Scott. Kimberly Curtis. Here. Lloyd Roberts. And Jocelyn Scott.
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Jocelyn Scott has missed three meetings. This will be her third
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meeting for notice.
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Okay. And now if you'd swear in our officers, please.
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I swear to tell the truth,
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the
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whole truth and nothing but the truth. So help you God. Yes, ma'am.
[00:01:25] Speaker 1
Okay. And we have an agenda for tonight's meeting. Uh, it's been revised. Uh,
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it's been revised. You
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have a new one that not the one that came in your packet, but the new one that's in front of you.
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At the back that we didn't have before, which is a, uh,
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uh,
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lean request.
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[00:01:51] Speaker 1
And there is one item. Item number two. As complied. With those changes. I'll take a motion.
[00:02:07] Speaker 5
Mr. Chair, I move to accept the agenda as amended. Second.
[00:02:12] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Thank you. Motion with a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed or none. So the motion passes.
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And the minutes of our March 17 meeting. Any
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[00:02:29] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · Machine re-recognized
to those needed? If not, I'll take a motion to approve.
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[00:02:37] Speaker 3 · Machine re-recognized
Make a motion to approve the minutes, please.
[00:02:41] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · Machine re-recognized
Second. Thank you. Motion
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All in favor say aye. Aye.
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Any opposed? The minutes
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I'll turn it over to Manager Bunt for docket, uh document packet and the introduction of new officers. Yes,
[00:03:04] Speaker 2
Mr. Chair, at this time, I'd like to submit the PowerPoint presentation in the document packet given to the board of postings. Also,
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a folder with ‸ all the codes and ordinances that will be heard tonight during these cases. um Last month, I mentioned that we were getting two new
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we have
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who just joined us. My other officer is unfortunately out sick this week. So I can't introduce you to him at this meeting. It'll have to be the next meeting.
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Welcome. ‸ Welcome.
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‸ We're glad to have you. Thank you. We'll keep you busy. And
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I should note
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also for uh for the record and for the uh attendance that
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However, um who else
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we have
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Mr. lightholder
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Mr. Lightholder was
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unexcused And then Mrs. Scott also
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uh couldn't make it. Yeah, I got her.
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Okay. I
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scott who's a regular member but she didn't come tonight either
[00:04:39] Speaker 1
okay we just did uh sherry scott have a
[00:04:42] Speaker 4
the email i gave you up there
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oh that's right. She okay.
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Yeah, she was excused. She gave us she's
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out
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she's out of town for work. So uh she is excused.
[00:04:51] Speaker 1
okay um I think that brings everything up to date. So we're ready then for
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[00:05:10] Speaker 6
For the record, Augusto Gonzalez, Code Enforcement Officer, I am submitting a packet of documents and photos associated with this case. The photos accurately depict the property during my visits and show my finding, i'm sorry, accurately depict the property during my visits.
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I found the property in violation of permit required. Appendix A, Article 15, Section 2A, exterior work in front of the
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Parking and storage of major recreational equipment, Appendix A, Article 13, Section
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RV trailer stored in the side yard set up for housekeeping purposes,
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of last year, 2021, when Officer Carver posted ‸ stop work order. Work was conducted on the property without a permit being pulled.
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uh showing the work being done and the storage of the or the temporary storage of the dumpster.
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the outcome and the inspections. At this point, the uh permit was expired. there was no active permit and there was no final inspection uh the permit had expired from 2019.
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I also had, in photo four findings, I had
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uh It was consistently popped out. um Notice was sent for the permit at this point, uh and monitored the RV. In November, for your photo five findings, that's when I educated the property owners of the RV pop outs and the ordinance that
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to it. I revised ‸ notice ‸ that point.
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my prior findings. I contacted the building department and relayed that information to the owners so they can correct it. Here in uh March, just last month, photo seven findings, the RV still maintained in a housekeeping manner. uh At some point, the antenna, I believe, or there was some kind of cord that was disconnected, which I had pointed out to them, was ‸ removed, but that was the only progress made at that point.
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state of the work that was done without a permit. There is an active permit on the property currently. uh The same thing. How the property is, the current condition of it, after the work was done. uh It's just finding here from today's date, the RV is still in the same housekeeping position. uh parked in store that hasn't moved.
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And they got the trailer there?
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I'm not sure if the trailer is being occupied or not, or what the purpose of it is, but it's stored in a manner of housekeeping. what
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do you mean what
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so if the trailer was just sitting there for storage, it would be closed up for storage. It's actually the pop outs are out, so if you entered that unit,
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And aerials from the property appraiser also show the overhang extended out over the front as if you were going to sit there like it was set up at a campground.
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purposes. What they're using it for, we don't know, but it's been that way since it arrived there in 20, according to the aerials.
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and it's remained in that exact position that whole ‸ time. You can go ahead and finish ‸ Okay,
[00:09:28] Speaker 1
and to resolve that, would
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notify you that there's nobody in there, and you take a look at it, or? And it would need to
[00:09:37] Speaker 2
bring in the pop outs so it's more for traveling, and then it would just be there for storage. Okay. If they took a trip, and they came back, and they wanted to open it up to air it out and clean it, the code allows for that. But it doesn't allow to be in that state for use at all periods of time, like they couldn't go out there to have a party or watch TV or have somebody staying over.
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[00:10:01] Speaker 1
Okay. And is there anyone here from that property? There
[00:10:04] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
is, but um I'd like uh Mr. Gonzalez to finish his presentation and give his recommendations. Okay,
[00:10:11] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
go ahead. I just have a question. This is the back of the home right here? No,
[00:10:17] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
this is the side of the house.
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and they're the corner lot on Alamanda and
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So if you drive down
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[00:10:26] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
you would drive past this, which is technically their side yard. Their backyard is a little bit that's legal
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park on the side like that.
[00:10:36] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Yes, the code. it's it The trailer is parked legally because of its size. It's parked on the side or rear of the yard. It just can't be extended out for for use. I
[00:10:47] Speaker 1
got you. Thank you. Okay, go ahead, please, officer. Yes,
[00:10:50] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice
sir. I've attempted to gain voluntary compliance in this case, but as of my last inspection on April 21st, 2022, the property remains in violation.
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[00:11:01] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice
and the violations have not been fully
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[00:11:08] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice
officer Carver, and ‸ reasonable time has been given. I sent the notice of hearing on April 1st, 2022,
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[00:11:18] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice
Staff finds in
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[00:11:22] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice
while the owner obtained a permit in January 2022, the owner has repeatedly allowed permits to go without inspections and expire and
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[00:11:42] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice
and recommends 30 days be given to come into compliance
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[00:11:48] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
The violation remains until compliance is achieved. The owner is here, sir.
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Mr. Chair, if I can, just to clarify the motion. They currently have an active building permit, so that violation is technically in compliance, but due to the fact that we had issue a stop work order in the beginning to get them to get a permit, and that one permit has already expired,
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permit expires, then they would just be a repeat violation from that point on. So that is not an active violation. We're asking that it be found to have been in violation of the permit section.
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Okay. And
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then
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being used for housekeeping purposes. Article um 8, Section 14 D.
[00:12:37] Speaker 1
Okay. That's that's why we reduced the uh requested fine to 25 per day.
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That's correct, because the other
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not sure that's a finding they can make.
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Well, they had no permit when they started the porch, then they obtained one that permit expired. We cited them again, and they have one, but we want to make sure that they follow through and get their final inspections on their porch and get the permit resolved. So they were in violation,
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they got a permit, they weren't, then they went back in violation. So based on the pattern, we're just asking that they find that this property was to have been in violation for not getting the required permit and following through the process.
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Did they not pull the permit within
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Originally, they had no permit, but they were building the porch.
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So in the notice of violation,
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would have been, I don't know the exact date, but I'm assuming August or September. They did pull a permit, but then they let it expire. So then we, then Augusto had to cite them again. So what we're attempting to do here is just show that they were in violation, have been in the past. That way, if they let it lapse again, it would be a repeat. We wouldn't have to do a whole new case to cite them for the same violation they've been cited for twice.
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I don't think you can do that. That's my ‸ It sounds a little strange to me.
[00:14:20] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
If I can just uh kind of relate this to the other work that we do here, uh every month when we meet, it's very typical that we have at least one case that's pulled from the agenda because it has been complied. And we've seen any number of those over the years. I don't think we have ever had somebody come in here and say, we cited somebody and before we could get them before the board, they complied. So that case is now moot. And then I've never heard somebody say, but they were out of compliance for a while. So we want to have a finding. I think that once it's complied, it's complied. And if they do happen to uh bring this up again, uh because they don't make their their deadlines this time, one of the things that you could present and argue in your uh presentation is, this is not the first time that they've been out of compliance. We have, we have history of that in the minutes or or whatever, but I don't know that. We've ever done this before where we say somebody who has complied, let's bring them in here anyhow and tell them they weren't in compliance, but now they are.
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Well, and I would submit to the precedent that was set because
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that came into compliance prior to the meeting, but
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violation wouldn't reoccur again. Or
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So
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make. So if they can't make that decision on this case, that's completely understandable. right But there has been precedent set what we have done to have been in violation and
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I will take your word on that. i I haven't seen it during my tenure on the board.
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It's called a no fine standing order. We have, I don't know that we've ever done that before, but that does exist as a possibility. But that's ‸ Only when they haven't, they complied before they came before you,
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So if the notice of violation said you need to get your permit application done by January 10 and they don't get it done until ‸ April 10, then. Code staff can bring it before you and ask for a finding that they were in violation for, for a period of time, but they are now in compliance. ‸ And that does set them up for a repeat violation, but that is why
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notice of violation
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is, this is either it is or is not. In terms of making it, making it once we hear from the owners, once we make a motion, should we ignore the fact that the uh permit was required or should we
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uh as a no fine?
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I think that's up to staff how they want it in the record. it
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sounds like what they wanted in there okay
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and then just to answer the question yes staff would like it to be part of the record
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okay
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but again it's the board's prerogative so all
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right uh if you care to be heard come forward and you'll need to be sworn in by the secretary
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You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? yeah ‸ Please
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state your name and address for the record.
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and I live also at 1112 Alamanda Lane. I'm her husband.
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Sorry it's under these conditions. And two, uh thank you so much for letting us flee our case.
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everybody for giving us this opportunity. There is some truth to what they say, but it's not the whole truth. um There's a lot of flaws in and what he's saying. And um first of all, this goes way back to like 2019. and um In 2019, we did receive a letter from the city saying, we have a permit. We have that letter with us. If you'd like to see it, it says that we have a permit. So we continued working on it. Then they came back and said, we don't have a permit and they put a stop work order on our house. So we stopped working on it. And the pictures, it looks bad because we didn't work on it for a long time because they said we can't work on it.
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as ‸ time went on after 2019, we had COVID and all the things happened with COVID in the cities and whatever major issues. And then, um Carrie was the one that sent us the letter that saying Katie, whatever her name is. And then, uh she came by and we were working on the side of the yard where
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removing dirt from the side of the house because we continually had water coming in the house. because there was a lot of dirt piled up on the side. So all we did is remove the dirt, put it in that dumpster that was there so that the water would have a place to run off.
[00:19:55] Speaker 8
I was going to say when the picture was taken
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at the time we hadn't been working on that. But as he said, the picture where the dumpster was, we were working on the side yard, but we had not been working on the awning due to the fact that we realized that we didn't have a permit at the time. So she did put the stop work order showing us that we did need a permit, um in order to be able to continue and finish.
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working on that awning just to be clear.
[00:20:27] Speaker 1
Okay. Let, ‸ me, uh shorten this a bit by saying that, uh
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And you're going to continue working under that permit. ‸ You know,
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[00:20:41] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
So right now we're not going to say anything in particular about permit. All we want to be sure is that you continued the job and get it inspected.
[00:20:51] Speaker 9 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
as you can see in the So
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‸ so the issue really at this point is, is the recreational equipment, uh and as, as we addressed a few moments ago, uh if it appears to be ‸ something that, that is a place to live, then that's not allowed. Okay.
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So about the,
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and gives us a violation for the awning goes around the side of the house and then gives us a violation on an illegal parking of a recreational vehicle uh section 14. it says it's not within the allotted setback on our property. I did my homework and it was within the allotted setback of the property. And i said ‸ I said, I told him, I said, listen, I think you're wrong. I think this is within the allotted setback. He's like, no, no, no, this is not, you don't know what you're talking about. Then I said, okay, prove it. So he went back ‸ apparently his boss sent him straight because he came back to us and told us, my boss set me straight. It is within the allotted setback.
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month a couple months later. And we have those documents as
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we already have a permit for the awning. And in there it mentions the awning.
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[00:22:23] Speaker 9 + overlapping voice
plugged in. He never said anything about that before. And
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hour, probably 50 RVs that are plugged in and their pop-outs are out. And
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well
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And so I'm sorry, that's that's that's not something we want to talk about. What we have to talk about is
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Are you willing to bring those pop-outs in?
[00:22:55] Speaker 9
Well, that's
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it doesn't make. It's not in the law. So in the law,
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[00:23:00] Speaker 9
and it can't be plugged in. That would be pretty messed up
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[00:23:08] Speaker 9
If you can't have it plugged in and you can't have it popped out because you have to air it out. That's where the windows are. If you see on the pop-out you otherwise you can't air it out. And this is basically now becoming harassment because he removed it from the violation. Then he adds it back on for something different. Trying to trying to find us for some kind of a violation that isn't even in the law.
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14d in front of us, which we were pulled in for um the housekeeping. We do have lights attached to the back porch. That is for the decoration of our backyard. um It is popped out. But the only thing that we don't see on here under section 14d was that
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That's the only confusion that we we are not understanding because that is not clearly it. Well, it's not in here at all that says it can't be open and it can't be hooked up.
[00:24:02] Speaker 9 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
And I do understand also that we're not here for 50 other people, but we are here about holding everyone to the same standards.
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I appreciate that. But uh the only way that those others will get addressed is if uh the officer cites them as as he did you, or you as a citizen make a complaint about them, in which case it comes again back to the code officers. But uh what we are, what we are citing is, is
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parked where it's parked,
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But that it appears that it's being lived in, and we've had a number of cases come before
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in and out the door, there were people living in them, and that's not allowed. It's,
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a this
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that has one house with one resident,
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I mean, it is our RV, on our property, so we are in and out of it, but we're not, we're not, no, not living in it. Do we have it open? Yes. Does he sometimes go in to chill or to have like a meeting so it's quiet in there because of the dogs? Yes. But it's not used for housekeeping as they're assuming.
[00:25:28] Speaker 9
And it's just, do you understand how this is confusing because he did find us for where he said it's the location that's the problem. Then he took it off, said that's not a problem. So we had no fine. And then he comes back and finds us for something else. That's harassment. I mean, what you see why I lost
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knew what he was doing to begin with. So i and I don't blame him. Maybe it's the law is not clear on that on that. And I, I kind of agree with him on that because it wasn't clear to me neither. I had to Google it and look it up. And that's how I knew it was within the allotted step back.
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Okay.
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no one is living ‸ Okay.
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Do you occasionally or does, do your guests or does anybody sleep in that unit while it's parked?
[00:26:31] Speaker 9
No.
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Not at all. are you conducting any housekeeping activities in there? Cooking, uh anything along those lines? We
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have the refrigerator, well, since it was plugged in we have the refrigerator in there. So yes, we do have like food stocked in there.
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Okay. So you're so your kitchen is
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which
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‸ so of the of the three things that are listed uh in the code that you just cited,
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of housekeeping there.
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allowed to do that?
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uh Well, you were quick to quote to us what that particular section said. uh And as you point out, and I think I agree that just by virtue of having the slides out, that doesn't violate the rule. Having it plugged in doesn't violate the rule with somebody who has formerly had a unit like this. I know that it's important to be able to keep air flow in our humidity and keep the air conditioner going. So ‸ I i disagree and there's a lot of discussion that could be had. I disagree with Mr. Manager that just having the slides open constitutes a violation. I don't see that by the plain language, but housekeeping is a violation and you have just testified to the fact that you have
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housekeeping. ‸ I just, I wasn't aware. I thought housekeeping was for others staying there. I didn't know that that was just for us because
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didn't know that meant for us, but thank you for clarifying.
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there was kind of a vague, that
[00:28:06] Speaker 5
that's just my reading of the plain language. Gotcha.
[00:28:09] Speaker 9 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
All right. And we don't have a problem with eventually even getting rid of it or whatever. But it was just a lot of confusion in this for us.
[00:28:22] Speaker 8 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
We just wanted to come as well to be able to also get the matter straight to see what to do and to clarify. Yeah,
[00:28:29] Speaker 9
because we weren't getting really straight answers on the whole. field
[00:28:33] Speaker 5
Also,
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so forth, but I'll tell you as somebody who had a fifth wheel for for quite some time,
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that I would periodically open it up, air it out, run the air conditioner check the systems, and close it up again. ‸ I didn't keep it open all the time.
[00:28:56] Speaker 9
all right
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Okay. um Thank
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you.
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Sure. Go ahead.
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So,
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parked in my driveway and I kept it open and and plugged in naturally because I used it a lot and
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change out. But
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they were holding meetings in it. i I think having the motor home open, keeping the air conditioning running, all that is just part of maintaining a unit. But when you say you have a meeting and
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and that should not be allowed. So I don't care if
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have a meeting,
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bring in any
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it is like over Zoom, on a computer, or anything?
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home you're using an extension in your home, but I don't believe that's allowed.
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have condiments in your refrigerator or you're used enough for overflow because you're traveling with it. Because, I mean, that's one of the reasons I kept mine plugged in, because I'm not going to unload load
[00:30:14] Speaker 11
yeah
[00:30:15] Speaker 10 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
every time I was gone, every once a month and then for a week. But, you know, ‸ extension of
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home for an extra office enough room, it
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be allowed.
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And
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that is another thing. If you took a trip and you came home and you needed to air it out and stuff, that's all allowed. This RV has not moved in years. It's been in that same position. So that's what draws our attention to it is
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It's used as an extension of the home. That is exactly what staff is saying. As far as setbacks, I'm not going to allow my officer to send out a notice that's not correct. We
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have and
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so when Mr. Gonzalez sent a letter regarding setbacks of parking, I then informed him that under the code, because of the size of that trailer, it can't be parked in a driveway. It can be parked on the side of the house.
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and it's in use and that's the violation. So the notice was revised and they were sent a revised notice, which is proper and
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correct it. But yes, to answer his question, I'm not going to let Augusto send him a letter saying he's in violation of setbacks when he's not. And he wasn't. So all that is correct. And that notice was revised, re-sent to them and the case was started. So that's how we got to this section of the code.
[00:31:54] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Okay. uh I think if anything else do you like to add? I
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mean, the only thing is from the first notice that
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were in violation of section 14 a through D,
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That's all gone.
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being used for anything other than taking a trip somewhere. When you come back from the trip, you air it out. You you may, you can leave it plugged in if that's just to run the ‸ refrigerator. But if you're going in there to to do anything else, um that's that's not within the code. Okay. So, uh so you do understand what you're going to need to do
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when we finish up here. All right. Then I'd like to take a motion. Somebody,
[00:32:55] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Mr. Chair, I will move
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‸ case ce 210080, uh based on the, uh packet submitted by the officers, the testimony by the office from the manager and the testimony of the property owners, uh
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of major recreational equipment
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no finding with regard to the permit applied as it is currently in compliance, but I'll make a parenthetical note that it had not been in compliance in case this comes up in the future. And that
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the RV use or a fine of
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per day will be.
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motion on the floor with a second,
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All those in favor say aye aye. Aye. Any opposed? There are none. The motion passed.
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correct the problem, but you need to after it's corrected. Call the code officer and let him know. So you can come and take a look at it and close the case. Okay. As
[00:34:16] Speaker 8
far as the correction. I'm sorry. As far as the correction, then it's
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it in and out or.
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Yeah. Pulling those in.
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office. okay You shouldn't be using it for. The only reason that the slide should be open is for maintenance because you're allowed to store and maintain the vehicle on your property. So if
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and you're going in and out of
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doing things besides maintaining it. uh You should probably your default should be mostly closed and if you have to open it up to maintain it every now and then, so be it.
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Okay.
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that's it
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Next item is CE21-0634.
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The address is 1108 Kirkland Drive. i was submitting a packet of documents and photos associated with this case. The photos actually depict the property during my visits. I visited the site seven times. During my first inspection, I found the property in violation of accumulation
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miscellaneous trash, debris, and junk material in front of the home, scrap material around ‸ exterior ‸ home.
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in front of home,
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in photo one shows my initial inspection of my findings with the junk, scrap metal and an operable vehicle. My same findings are shown here in this photo.
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shows the accumulation of trash and litter. The scrap metal behind this accessory structure here and in front of the home. More scrap metal, cones, miscellaneous items. ‸ Same findings again here and also inoperable vehicles. same This here is
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did show some progress but still remained in violation
[00:37:01] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Mr. Gonzalez, what is the violation sorry photo?
[00:37:04] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
It's going to be the cones, the miscellaneous uh construction debris, uh scrap metals behind here. um You can see it part of it inside of the truck also and in operable
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vehicles
[00:37:15] Speaker 6
The same photo, just from a different view, uh showing that miscellaneous junk, scrap metal and materials.
[00:37:20] Speaker 2
Behind the fenced in area that you stated?
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Yes, sir. Another junk inoperable vehicle that was today this morning.
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uh
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Behind here in this photo, you can actually see, uh i've been we the the owner has showed some progress. uh he He scraps metal and it's maintained there in that area, which has been part of the violation.
[00:37:45] Speaker 1
so How many vehicles are there with uh no current tag? i i I couldn't tell from your pictures.
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It
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changed. Each inspection will show the the violation for vehicles. the Some of the vehicles will all will change as far as plates or the inoperable or operable status. uh That uh Silver Dodge Ram works
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one month. When I follow up with the property owner and take new pictures, it may not work the next month. And I believe he changes his registration through his vehicles as they work.
[00:38:20] Speaker 2
So he's had two or three at one time and then they disappear and then, but there's always one vehicle with either no tag or doesn't run? Yes, sir. Thank you.
[00:38:32] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Okay. that's That was the question. uh So we have, it as of today, there is at least one. Yes, sir. That's not registered, not tagged.
[00:38:40] Speaker 6
Yes, sir.
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Okay. And the accumulation of trash and litter is still there.
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Yes, sir.
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All right.
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attempted to gain voluntary compliance in this case,
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in violation.
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The violations have not been fully resolved. I sent the notice of hearing on April 1st, 2022, and it was ‸ certified and posted on the property in violation. Staff finds in case 21-0634 that the owner is in violation and recommends today to ‸ be given ‸ to come
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violations remains until compliance is achieved. The property owner is here.
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okay property owner you wish to be heard, sir? Come forward to the podium and be sworn in by the secretary.
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Where to tell the truth,
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Please state your name and address for the record
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microphone.
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what do
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have to say. uh What do you have to say? Are you storing stuff or are you not storing stuff? Yeah,
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he what he say is uh is it true and it happened to me.
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wife, my wife is very ill. I'm who taking care of everything in my house and I pick up some, some, I get those trash sometimes, put it in i
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live in
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they're they're they're
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over there because to try to clean, to clean those wire and thing to to get get some, couple money, you know. But he say it's okay. What he says it's true.
[00:40:56] Speaker 1
Okay. Well, and the, the vehicle, at least one vehicle with, with no tag. Yeah.
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What happened to that vehicle? I bought it and, uh
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and
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three months later, it,
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it
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blew the, blow. And, I wasn't able to get somebody to fix it. And I tried to, try to fix it. But, the vehicle is, is my name. It's registered. But, I, ‸ know, I know,
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and you have no tag. is it why, why would that be?
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Well, um if I can have a, a, a time to do this, it's
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to cost me money and, in the time. you see i
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to see how much I had to pay. And I had to buy any children too to have it.
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‸ Okay.
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‸ Okay.
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So he understands what he needs to clean up and.
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There, there's a minor language barrier, but, we've, I've worked with him in fighting extensions.
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Staff is recommending 30 days.
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cleaned up?
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uh I know probably is no concern about you, but, I'm, my wife is, a
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I'm do everything in my house, cooking, driving, uh take care of her,
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When, when I wake up, when I see it, the day is already. Okay. ‸ I don't have too, too, ‸ much time to put it in in the yard. But I understand,
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but
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can do that?
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Yeah, yeah. I promise. Okay.
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And and how about the uh tag on the
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to,
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to, to, to wait that I know I had no more other way to junk it out, do something.
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you know
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But I would do
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Okay.
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I promise.
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‸ 90 days ‸ okay with the city? We
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have no objection. I'll
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make a motion. Go ahead, please.
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that um we accept staff recommendations at
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And we will give them 90 days to correct, um at 50 per day until compliance is achieved.
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All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. ‸ Any opposed?
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none. The motion passed. uh so you have the 90 days, sir. When you get the work done, uh call, ‸ call the code officer and tell him so he can come and look at it, check it out.
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Okay.
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And then he'll close the case. So there wouldn't be any fine unless you don't do what you are agreeing to do. Okay. Okay.
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okay
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Thank you.
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Mr. Chair. Before we proceed, I'd like to recognize that uh David lightholder did attend the meeting. He just came in a little late since he seconded the motion. We should put that on the record that he is present.
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Okay. i I think, uh secretary picked that up. Yes. So it's entered on the. At the time he came in. Thank you. Thank you for being
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happen
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of documents and photos associated with this case. The photos actually depict the property during my visits. I visited the site six times. During my first inspection, I found the property in violation of parking in the yard.
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and corner side yard area.
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so there is your vehicles inoperable and or unregistered. Storing outdoors, section 6-900 b 11, miscellaneous junk outdoors throughout the property and or improper confinement of storage. Trailers and yard, utility trailer parked within the front and or corner side yard area. and
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we have the motor vehicles parts um throughout the front and side yard. The storing of junk and scrap metal, uh lumber, waste paper products, uh building materials along the carport and around the property. uh ‸ landscaping utilities, yes, there's the outdoor storage ‸ there. There ‸ also the orange van and a couple other vehicles there. um Overall are inoperable or unregistered.
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Does the van have a license plate on it?
[00:46:55] Speaker 6
No, there's no license plate on that orange van. uh Here we're gonna ‸ have more outdoor storage, parking in the yard, um miscellaneous items throughout each inspection here.
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And does this show a trailer in the yard?
[00:47:12] Speaker 6
No. Yes, it does. I'm sorry, on the right side. Apologies. There we have more miscellaneous outdoor storage. um They actually dropped down uh millings there. I'm not sure why. uh
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it was okay because it took away the front yard, I believe. um I educated him with the ordinance. Here again, we have numerous vehicles and outdoor storage.
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So this is a rental unit? Yes,
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sir.
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And
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the property manager and I talked to the tenant. the
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Okay.
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To try to obtain compliance and educate. um Here we have parking in the yard again
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vehicles, i'm in outdoor storage, miscellaneous items.
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where Where would the outdoor storage be contained in this photo?
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We have some in the uh carport area on the left side of the property,
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property. uh Displaying the storing junk outdoor. There was scrap metal, various items there, household items, um motorcycle parts, car parts. That's
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four months ago. Get us up to the current.
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Okay, well, I need to do a presentation where I show you all of our inspections so that we have it for the record. So I can't just speed up and then I need to make sure that the ordinances are read into the record so that everybody can make an accurate decision. So that's why it's taking so long.
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Okay.
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motor vehicles again, this photo, uh some of Some items here are blocked because of the RV. um trailers parked out in the uh yard. This year is in February
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but they're still outdoor storage, junk items, scrap items, household items. uh The orange
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violations, all present. With miscellaneous items, uh in inoperable vehicles.
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This here from this morning, the violations are still current with the same vehicles. In some cases, uh inoperable and registered. No tags on them. Outdoor storage uh miscellaneous items also. And there's a trailer, utility trailer parked in the yard. You can actually see the outdoor storage you're Also behind the yellow van.
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So we have uh but two vehicles with no
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registration, the the two vans, yellow and orange?
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From what I can see, my view, I had the orange van. uh But this is this property has vehicles overall
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In today's case, it was the orange one.
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but as of my last inspection on April 21st, 2022,
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days. The violations have not been fully resolved. I sent the notice of hearing on April 1st, 2022, and it was sent certified and posted to the property in violation. Staff finds in case 21-0654 that the owner is in violation and recommends that
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be given to come into
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the violations remain until compliance is achieved. And the property representative is here.
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Can you go back to some of the pictures?
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uh That one there. See where the van is?
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Yes,
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sir.
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stuff up there?
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He's talking about the white stuff that's on top of the
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that storage?
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At one point, I think that was a tarp uh that they were using the cover part of the outdoor storage, and they just never cleaned it up.
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Thank you.
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Yes, sir. property representative there
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in, please, by the secretary.
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I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God. I did Please state your name and address for the record. My
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name is Stephanie
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and I'm here on behalf of [address]
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32922.
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with this property, and I tried to follow up with the officer to see what actually needed to be done. To my understanding, the mulch was laid down to try to clean up the property and beautify it. He did not know that he couldn't cover the entire yard in mulch. I don't know how much mulch needs to be removed. When I did go by there this morning, or this afternoon, right before I came here, there's a small area over to the right where you can see that it's been pulled back. And then the tenant has made progress. I mean, you can see from some of the photos massive progress has been made from the condition that it was in that
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morning, that was not there when I went by this afternoon. ‸ So it looks like it's a working home. Beyond that, the tenant, I
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to give the property owner, since he's the one at risk to being fined, the opportunity to be able to have this tenant removed. And for
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and coming into compliance. And that's what I did request.
[00:53:13] Speaker 2
Okay. And Mr. Chair, just for the record, the mulch was not cited that came in the process of doing this case. So the mulch is not an issue in this particular case.
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there was a percentage, um to planning and zoning, but it was not cited.
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Is there a, I'm not aware of a code that deals with covering the lawn with mulch. Is there, ‸ such a thing?
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Yes,
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planning and zoning will govern that. You can't put down substances like asphalt, pavers, mulch, etc etc
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have a limitation on, you know, stone gravel, different things like that. So that's a planning and zoning issue, but it's not before this board here tonight.
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Right. Okay. So, uh if you've given this to, uh the law firm already, have they given you any indication ‸ how long it's going to take to actually get the, end of the court and get this action to move forward?
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They had their three-day notice which expired yesterday. um They were not in compliance as of yesterday.
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they would be proceeding with the eviction. I don't know how long that would take. I'm more than happy to ask for an update on the time frame that she thinks it'll take to be able to have the tenant removed. um I believe she she said previously, um might have been 30 days. No,
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there's no way you can get a
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it before.
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Before the
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24 hour notice would be posted with the sheriff. There's no way you can get a tenant
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21-0654, I'll make a motion. ‸ amend staff's recommendation to 90 days because there's an eviction on the table and if it goes past there's not resolved within 90 days they should contact code enforcement for an extension. um It could take six months. um and If it's
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‸ not resolved within 90 days
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I don't know how you state that but we all know here this is not gonna ‸ not
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gonna ‸ happen in 30 days. No, it may not happen in 90.
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we table this for 60 days
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‸ and they want to have it resolved. Just because you want to evict the problem tenant doesn't mean that everybody has to wait for the eviction. Evictions can take months and months. That's it. uh
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‸ If I may, I've already given an extension because they were going to evict back in November
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and they did not respond. So not only do we have and the attorney is not only aware of the rent, but also the code violations. So I made sure that she knows that it's not just a rent payment thing that needs to be done to come into compliance. It's continuous code violations, which we're not okay with. So we can't keep the tenant. ‸ And unfortunately, and I also explained to the officer, the prior property manager who was called the property manager was not allowed to engage with any attorneys and she was not allowed to do the eviction. She was under the assumption that she could and she was trying to. She is not well, which is where I came into play. And that's why I was hired because she couldn't proceed with this. And I did also make him aware of that. She didn't know that at first, but she had been the ‸ property manager for like five or six years. Then we got to this point. She couldn't evict. So,
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motion, um say, of 30 or 60 days for them to file the eviction and then for us to hold the case until the conclusion of the eviction case, that might work in this scenario. um Because then she can get a court date, a court you know, file the court papers and we would hold the case because we have no idea what the docket on the
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court is
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going to be or how soon they're going to hear
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they'll actually file a case. I think it's right if we just
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‸ 90 days and if not, then they ‸ And
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that works for staff too. he
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can ask for a reduction when he ever resolves it.
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my promotion that we change that recommendation of 30 days to 90 days. ‸ it's not resolved in 90 days, a fine of 100 per day be imposed until compliance is achieved.
[00:58:32] Speaker 1
Okay. Second. Motion on the floor. or The second. Any further discussion?
[00:58:39] Speaker 5
Just one. And that is that uh I'd like to attach to that motion that uh we're making this uh recommendation based on the photographic and test of photographic evidence and testimony as offered by the officers and the testimony offered by the property manager. And that uh it's because of the demonstrated violations of the codes that have been cited in the presentation.
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And are you okay with that change to your motion? Yes. And since you made the change, you say your second
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follows? ‸ Yeah.
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Okay. Motion on forward a second. All in favor say ‸ aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? There are none. So the motion passed. and uh pass that along to the uh attorney. You'll get uh ‸ where will the official notice go to the owner?
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get the official notice of this action. Understood. Thank you so much. Thank you.
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Lane. I am submitting a package of documents and photos associated with this case.
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times during my first inspection.
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material in front of the home. Tires and junk around the exterior of the home.
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throughout the property
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It's a
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lawnmower
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bikes, wagon wheelbarrows, miscellaneous items.
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uh
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have tires here in this photo. which is showing, again, uh storing outdoors, um
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this photo. uh
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we got junk in this photo showing the junk or the tires in front of the home. um
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the carport. And the lawn mower still in place. There's a cylinder block in this one from February. storm Again, storing junk, scrap metal, scrap lumber. um This photo taken this morning. The property still remains in violation with the same violations of accumulation, trash and litter, and storing outdoors. uh With a laundry basket tires, lawn mowers still out there, ‸ and other miscellaneous items. Is
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this a rental property? uh
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me?
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the The property appraiser shows that it has homestead exemption. So we have we're assuming that the owner lives on the premises.
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‸ And have you talked to the owner?
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No, sir. I haven't made contact with him. um
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inspection on April 21st, 2022, the property remains in violation. I have been working on this case for 182 days and the violations have not been fully resolved. I sent the notice of hearing on April 1st, 2022, and it was ‸ certified and posted on the property in violation. Staff finds in case 21-0689 that the owner
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given to come into compliance or a fine that
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be imposed for each day. The violations remain ‸ until compliance is achieved.
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used to hold the mailbox up? is that what
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Mr. Chair, they were scattered across the property and then after getting noticed, they placed them over the mailbox. I think to say that it was part of a decoration of some kind. However, um they breed mosquitoes and it's still a hazard.
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I agree. And then they
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have three or four other tires scattered around the property. right I have no idea why we did attempt to make contact with them during a chief's walk of the neighborhood. But as we approached their house, they went inside and did not come back out. So we did not get to talk to
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even doing it during a chief's walk. So,
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No, no.
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make a motion on this case, please. uh uh
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be found in violation. And, uh that the, uh violation will be corrected within 30 days or a fine of 50 a day will be imposed until compliance is achieved.
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Second with comments. Go ahead. I'd like to add on, uh with Mr. Brown's. concurrence uh that, uh
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this is based on, uh photographic and verbal testimony from the code officer that it is uncontested by the property owner and that, uh the violations are as cited, uh accumulation of trash and litter and the appropriate sections and storing outdoors, the appropriate sections of
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All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. aye aye Any opposed? There are none. So the motion passes. and
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10 50 park drive, I'm submitting a packet of documents of photos and photos associated with this case. The photos actually depict the property during my visits. I visited the site six times. During my first inspection, I found the property in violation of temporary storage. Appendix A, Article 12, Section 30 a3 Temporary Storage Unit
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‸ on
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Pallets and
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Junk in front and Front and Side Yard. Protective Treatment, Section 6-1003 b Peeling, Flaking, and Chipped Paint on the
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The exterior structure recited in this photo here
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left of the conics. We also have a vehicle there at the time that was in violation that's been cured since then. This is the temporary storage unit. um The storing junk, scrap metal, scrap lumber scrap lumber uh was present around the temporary unit. This also shows
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protective treatment, um top left corner of the home. This follow-up,
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23rd, uh depicts the storing of junk and scrap metal, as well as the temporary storage unit on the property. um Here's the uh protective treatment here. The exterior structure um needed to be painted at the time. uh
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It's on the fascia.
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Okay, just above the opening there? Yes, sir. Thank you.
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And what is the what is the time limit for
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‸ temporary storage unit? If they get approval from planning and zoning, they can have it for 30 days. um They fill out an application ‸ and they can keep it for 30 days.
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Okay.
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This one never had approval at all
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Is it still there?
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uh Yes, this is a picture from today. This
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is a photo from today showing the temporary storage unit unit uh unit
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there. uh The protective treatment was actually cured, uh which I observed today. um And the there was other violations that were cured today.
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So, Officer Gonzalez, can you read into the record which violations were cured, and are you removing them from this case? Yes,
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so The cured violations, restoring outdoors, Section 6-900 b 11 protective treatment, Section 6-1003 b uh The violation that's present today is the temporary uh storage, uh and they say
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sorry
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So, they have all come into compliance? Except for
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the temporary
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storage. Right. Yes,
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sir.
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Thank ‸ you.
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i've attempted to gain voluntary compliance in this case. But ‸ my last inspection, on April 21st, 22,
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days, and the violations have not been fully resolved. ‸ sent a notice on
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and it was sent certified
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on the property ‸ violation. Staff finds in case 21-0697 that the owner is in violation and recommends
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be given to come into compliance
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of violation remains until compliance is achieved.
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Yes, sir. Okay. need to be sworn in by the secretary please
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okay well you've done some uh some of the things that needed to get accomplished but we've still got this
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going on with that
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yes sir
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um My husband actually passed away. It was a property that he owned. um
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um And so i
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to try to to make all this ‸ compliance when the officers finally reached me instead of continuously sending it to my husband's name. um I've been working really hard to do it. uh I think I only need 90 more days to get that temporary storage off the property. um
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So we're trying to take the stuff out of the house that needs to be out, put the stuff ‸ in the storage unit it needs to be put in to the home, and rearrange everything. I would like to try to get the zoning and planning permit to put it into the backyard, take the storage unit that's down in the back yard excuse me that is, the
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property that's run
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down and busted and remove that from the property and then place this in the backyard. I am working to try to get all the proper stuff for the house to be put into my name. So until then, I'm really having trouble pulling permits or doing anything to help in this matter. I want like to be compliant. I've tried to do as much as I can without having to try to go and pull permits.
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for power, water, and all of that. I'm having to wait for documents from the
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well we're sorry for your loss and and we understand the uh the difficulty of getting all these things squared away. uh
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object to
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90 days? um Absolutely, especially if she's going to attempt to make it a shed and pull an actual building permit. She's probably going to need every bit of that because she'll need engineering and tie downs and
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et cetera.
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So um we have no objections to extending this to 90 days.
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Mr. Chair. Go
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ahead.
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I'd
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to make a
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be found in violation of storing outdoors
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And that uh the fine, uh the correction will be within 90 days or
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will be imposed imposed until compliance is achieved.
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May I ask a question? Yes. How do I go about doing this without all the court documents to be able to go to planning and zoning to get the stuff that I need? If we're kind of still in a process here.
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That's the other reason we were given 90 days because she would in order to pull an owner builder permit, she would have to have the ownership of the property
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with the building official because
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And since you're the spouse, um the building official can make a determination in that way. So I would go to building as quickly as possible and tell them what your plans are and then they can guide you through what you need to do. Yes,
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sir.
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hey and And if it becomes uh the the uh 89th day, don't even wait
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89th day, a little sooner than that. let Let the code officer know that uh you're working on it and what progress you've made and uh then he can adjust it if needed.
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He's gonna ‸ very nice. um I appreciated him coming to the door and talking with me about it because I didn't even know.
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you. Excuse me,
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Okay, so uh Mr. Brown made the motion and
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with an amendment? Go
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ahead.
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Okay, I would uh second Mr. Brown's motion uh also stating that uh we are making this finding for violation of temporary storage based on testimony and photographic evidence
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the homeowner.
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And we
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All in favor say aye aye.
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Aye. Any
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opposed? Or none. The motion passed.
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‸ Thank you
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for being here. Okay, we have finished our regular cases. We do have one case under non-compliance.
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‸ I'm submitting photos that I took through my re-inspections of the property to actually depict the property during my visits. This case is brought to the Code Board on January 20, 2022, and was found in violation of
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b 11. I sent the notice of
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certified, and posted.
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in violation.
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Mr. Chairman, I'd like to just mention that there's a scrivener's error on the on the presentation. It should not be protective treatment. It should be
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error on our part so what was read into the record is the correct violation.
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That's on the case before.
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On the slide that I just had. oh I'm sorry. Yes. On this one. protected treatment was on the case before, but it didn't get deleted off this slide. So I just want to point that out for the record.
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‸ So on our agenda is correct, though. That is correct. Yep. Okay. And this is the owner. ‸ You need to be sworn in, please. i
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swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God. oh
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yeah.
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Please state your name and address
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explain one thing to you, sir, before you uh state anything. Under non-compliance according to uh state statute, we can only find you either in compliance or non-compliant That's the only thing the board can do at this point. So tell us what your intentions are
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he said I had to move a car engine and fix my fences. and yeah, I got like two things to do. I had to rebuild that whole thing. I tried nailing it back together. It just fell apart on me. And uh so I i worked ‸ like 5 30 tonight putting that together. I
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to take pictures or
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anything of it,
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but that's what I did. And that's my new washing machine that I'm going to put inside the house. But that's on the side of the house
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right ‸ there on the on the saw horses. I finished it this afternoon. Once I could get moving around,
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And all I got to do now is I got to go buy two more boards and connect the hinges. And then that's done. And then put a row of screws on the other one.
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well, let me uh let me advise you
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I
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want to advise you, sir, to uh obviously get that work done as soon as you can and then call the code officer because uh he can advise you on the rest of the case.
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I'll make a motion in case 21-0457. We find That's
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not my
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there.
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Second. Okay, motion on forward a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? There are none. So the motion is passed. uh You're non-compliant There will not be a excuse me. There will be a letter sent to you that states exactly what we've done. And you just need to get it fixed as quickly as you can to uh to stop whatever fine could could otherwise get registered.
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I've been trying to do as fast as I can. Either my health or the weather's been fighting me. And then I thought I had that gate done, but
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‸ it actually blew up in the splinters. And,
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you know, quickly in the next week or so, we'll stop the fine and explain to him how he can apply for a reduction or amnesty. And we'll go through that with him.
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Okay. So just do the best you can, sir. All
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right. So what am I supposed to do now exactly? You're you're going to finish my fence and ‸ motor's already out of sight.
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Finish your fence and make sure that there's no items scattered around the property, outdoors, up by the garage. Everything needs to be in a fully enclosed building. If you're going to put the washing machine in your house, put it in your house or get your fence up. And
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and then we'll explain how you can go to the next step uh to try to get a reduction in the lean
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right
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‸ Okay. And we have one more item to look at tonight. That is a request for a lean reduction. This gentleman's right here, ready
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Gonzalez. It's his area now, so he'll he'll be reading it in the record.
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public hearing on August
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2020, at which time the Board found the owner, Korth, Brian C., in violation of the following. Temporary storage, Appendix A, Article 12, Section 38 3 Business tax receipt, Chapter 12,
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15, Section
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‸ Code Enforcement Board provided the owner time to correct said violation, therefore consistent with the Code Enforcement Board's order. A lien was started against the property at a non-compliance hearing
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Code records show on-site inspections were conducted and contact was made. The current owner, Lake Drive LLC, is requesting that
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utilized the following factors in making its recommendation to reduce the lien.
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property at the time of violations occurred? No. The number of violations related to the subject
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liens?
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Four. Number of inspections performed?
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The length of time the property was in violation before correction? Previous code violations? Yes. With the previous tenant? Property taxes? taxes Tax bills 2021 are current. Other liens? Records show no outstanding liens on the property. no water liens.
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and it was in compliance before prior to the code board meeting. The current market value of the subject property,
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cost sheet for case number
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it took to the property to the Cummins compliance, and the total amount of the fines reduction in the total amount of 1009.84 staff costs
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you now, is the current property owner. He was not the property owner at the time of the violation. He sold the property to Mr. koth who started a roofing business um on the property without bringing it up to planning and zoning specifications or obtaining a business tax receipt. uh Mr. Brown had to take the property back. That's when the property came into compliance. So he is the current property owner now, and he's the one that corrected the violations, but he was not the owner of the property when this took place. He had actually sold it to Mr. koth And I'm sure he can elaborate on that.
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make the city ‸ whole. The city has spent a bit over $1,000 to inspect and re-inspect and do the paperwork and so forth. Given the fact that you were not the owner at the time and this all happened, ‸ the board may make some other move on that direction. Whatever we do, I want you to understand is a recommendation to city council. And you will get notice of when that city council hearing will be, you're of course welcome to attend that meeting and make your case there as well. So no matter what we do, city council gets the final word. And with that,
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like to step up and make a motion.
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That the lien will be reduced to $1,009.84
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As a recommendation to city council.
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Okay, motion on floor with a second. Any further discussion? Hearing none. ‸ All in favor say aye. Any opposed? There are none.
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that motion passes. And as I said, you'll get a notice of the city council meeting. ‸ When
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is that? What date is it?
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I have to look at the agenda.
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Okay. You'll let me know. I appreciate your time, you guys. And thanks for you, Mr. Buck.
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Okay.
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I think we've about covered it for tonight. There is no other business on the agenda. Our next meeting will be
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Unless anyone has any comments to make to the board,
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Mr. Chair. I would just like to address the board. I know that our presentations are different and I know that we're reading a lot of violations into the record, but there's a reason for ‸ that. We need to be more specific. And we need to make sure that the board understands the violations presented in front of them. So I apologize that the presentations are a little longer than they used to be, but there's actually a reason for that. So if it's ever contested, we have everything on the record of what we cited and why we cited it. So that's the reason for the new presentations and the new PowerPoint presentation is to let the board know and I am also working on getting you guys.
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so that the board can just be better informed all the way around. So we're still working on that part of it and we'll get that. Um, but there's a reason why we're doing this.
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Okay. Can I ask,
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is this based on, uh, legal opinion that we need to have photographs that are months old? Well, because that to me, those are meaningless. They really don't tell us anything.
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For us,
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we've been working the case and the fact that the property has been in violation for that length of time. So that is the evidence that we are choosing to give to the board so that the board is fully informed that it just didn't happen today or it just didn't happen in March. We try to give you the full outlook of the case and have it be part of the record. Um, it helps in appeals and things like that. It shows status and timeline. So that's why we do that.
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Okay.
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Okay.
[01:27:38] Speaker 1
I would submit based on our, our record over the last 15 years or more that I've been here. We never lost a case.
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[01:27:51] Speaker 1
Uh, I, I, I really don't see the need for presenting photographs that are months ago.
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[01:28:02] Speaker 1
week ago?
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[01:28:06] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Well, it's, it's staff's presentation, so it's our evidence that we're producing to you. So we want to give you that ‸ there is case law. Things change over time. I just think it's more beneficial that you have all the facts and findings of a case before you make a motion on it and not make a motion just for a 30 or 45 day period.
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be spent discussing violations that have already come into compliance and showing a lot of pictures.
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[01:28:39] Speaker 7
maybe just a summary of what has happened prior to the, you know, the current violations that didn't comply yet. Um, might be better. Just a summary and then be more specific and detailed on.
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[01:29:27] Speaker 7
which I think has been really good because in the past it's just been here's a picture, please find them in violation. But now we're getting much more explicit testimony here's a picture and let me tell you why this is a violation.
[01:29:43] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice
Okay
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[01:29:45] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
worth a thousand words but we need
[01:29:47] Speaker 7
the words too.
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[01:30:10] Speaker 10 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
We had no revival because it doesn't say what the lien was. Yeah I think
[01:30:14] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
well I yeah I would.
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[01:30:23] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
used to give the board the actual summary that we were reading from and we were asked by the board to just give the cost sheet and limit it because we're already reading it but if you would like it
[01:30:32] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · Machine re-recognized
we'll
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[01:30:33] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
be more than happy to give you the presentation which has the actual fine property value and our cost sheet attached to it. We have no problem doing that.
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[01:30:52] Speaker 1
20 page packet that was given on a couple months ago but we needed something between that and this that adds maybe why the owner ‸ might be asking for the reduction that information is helpful.
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[01:31:14] Speaker 1
he think it should be zero.
[01:31:15] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Well and that's in the application that we used to give and
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[01:31:23] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
the application. It would it would be extra work for staff to try to summarize the application and create another document to give to you but if that's what the board wants we'll do our best to supply that to the board.
[01:31:37] Speaker 10
I think we need more information.
[01:31:39] Speaker 1
‸ Yeah, we need a little bit more information. Okay, and that's not our intent isn't to kill 10,000 more trees.
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[01:31:51] Speaker 1
information on on a lean reduction item.
[01:31:56] Speaker 2
Okay, staff will
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[01:31:59] Speaker 2
a lean reduction
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we'll
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give you that you can let us know if that suffices or if it doesn't suffice and we'll go from there.
[01:32:06] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice
Thank you. And I would just like to say with regard to the photographs and the photographic evidence and everything that sets the stage. My personal feeling and others may feel differently, but my personal feeling is the most important thing is the picture of what we started with what brought you out there in the first place. And pictures that show where we ended up ‸ and maybe not every picture of every inspection along the way, but a summary of during the course of time from where we are to where we ended.
[01:32:38] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · Machine re-recognized
Here's the work that's been done. Here's some improvement. Here's this. We don't necessarily have to see every picture of everything that's been complied, but a summary saying we started here. These were complied. Here's a picture of it midway. Here's where we ended up today. And this is what we're,
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[01:33:01] Speaker 2
in whole. For example, today
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[01:33:11] Speaker 2
You know, when we did our inspection. So once it's on the agenda and everything's out, it's hard to take things off and get it exact.
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[01:33:23] Speaker 2
I was even asked by the attorney one time to include more pictures because I only showed the state of a property on a non compliance here.
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[01:33:37] Speaker 2
added more if you want less, we can show the initial inspection.
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[01:33:46] Speaker 2
Again, we're presenting the case so that there's no in between. We don't want somebody come up and saying, well, we complied this in December. It just happened to reoccur then. So there's a reason for it. Because when the record goes to court, they can actually tell the judge. Yeah, we complied in this period. We don't know what they're showing. So I'll go with whatever legal tells me to do. And if they say we can do that, I have no problem with doing that. Because if you think I like writing out all these pictures, but we do want our cases to be solid. We don't want openings or loopholes for people to make challenges.
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[01:34:26] Speaker 2
Any challenges before we won and it was done, but times change and people bring up other reasons and judges opinions change. And that's kind of where we are, but I'll try to accommodate the board.
[01:34:39] Speaker 10
I think you can use your judgment on the pictures on some of the cases.
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[01:34:42] Speaker 10 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
mean, we ‸ have people operating scrap businesses out of their yards. So
[01:34:48] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
the
[01:34:49] Speaker 10
material is always changing, but it's a scrap business like we saw one tonight. It's always scrap.
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days and, you know.
[01:34:59] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I think you're doing a good job.
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[01:35:02] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Thank you, Mr.
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[01:35:04] Speaker 3
I think you're doing a good job and we'll make sure your
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salary's
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increased.
[01:35:08] Speaker 10
Well, you know,
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I
[01:35:09] Speaker 2
don't make promises.
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can't keep up
[01:35:11] Speaker 10
personally.
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[01:35:17] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice
Nobody's ever going to say, well, you made a bad decision because you knew too much.
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So,
[01:35:23] Speaker 5
and I ‸ block out the evening. ‸ I'm coming here for the, I come here at 6 o'clock and I'm here to what done. So if it takes a little bit longer, it takes a little bit longer.
[01:35:32] Speaker 2
Well, I actually think we're right on time. It's only 730.
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know, every code board. So I think we're still staying there.
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[01:35:41] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
lot more information beaming at you. You should just be a photograph. Now it's copies of the codes. If you notice, we gave you folders with a copy of all the codes. And that's so everybody understands what the code is.
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[01:36:00] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
‸ So that's why we're trying to be a little more
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[01:36:02] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
what's
[01:36:02] Speaker 10
the second you were adding minutes to?
[01:36:04] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice
Well, you weren't here last month, but, uh,
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[01:36:11] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
based on some case law. She gave us some materials to read and wants us to be more specific in our motions and cite, uh, what it is that we're basing our motions on. For instance, the, uh, the photographic evidence and testimony and what it spoke to and how it actually applies. So she asked us to be a little more detailed and why not? I think
[01:36:32] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
if you just put the violations and would be sufficient, wouldn't it? I have a hard time reading and remembering everything. I mean, it gets to the point like I'm a lawyer. Well, they,
[01:36:46] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice
they,
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[01:36:50] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
That
[01:36:51] Speaker 2
is correct.
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So
[01:36:53] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
if you flash that on ‸ while it's time to make their vote, that might be helpful. And
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was ‸ using that. And he was too.
[01:37:01] Speaker 2
Yeah. The last slide is actually written like a motion. Um, so when you look at the very last slide, it actually reads in like the motion should be.
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[01:37:12] Speaker 2
Um, I am also trying to get some sample motions and stuff and again, give you guys booklets that give you a little more material of how we do things. So
[01:37:24] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
we can't read directly off that
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[01:37:31] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Right. Then you have to do it on the fly. So if you're going to change it from 30 days to 90 days and yes, then
[01:37:38] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
they corrected something. I painted this or that or whatever. So if we read something off there,
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[01:37:50] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
but we try to read that into the record.
[01:37:53] Speaker 13 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
So again, this is only the second
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month that we've done this. So it's still a work in progress. So all comments are welcome. And we, we tweak it. I've tweaked the presentation a lot since last month. It's completely changed with where the way I had ordinances put.
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[01:38:13] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
another month or two before we get it down to where it's comfortable to everybody.
[01:38:17] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · Machine re-recognized
because
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[01:38:17] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
change is always uncomfortable and new things is ‸ always difficult to get for a while, but it'll become the normal soon enough. So
[01:38:26] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
we'll get some earphones that'll plug in and tell us exactly like we're singing.
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[01:38:37] Speaker 1
And I don't make these comments ‸ to think that we're spending too much time or to try to shorten the meeting because indeed, when I started on the board, we had meetings that went until one o'clock in the morning, you know, so that's really not the issue.
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[01:38:55] Speaker 1
the beginning. This is what it looked like six months ago. Here's what it looks like this morning. Anything in between is really minutia. We really don't need it in my mind.
[01:39:07] Speaker 2
Well, then I would like to ask the city attorney and get their opinion on because I do think it leaves a area. So I would like to contact Kristen and speak to her regarding her thoughts on that.
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[01:39:24] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice
I want to make sure your orders get upheld. So I think that a lot of it's going to depend on the particular facts, but there is some relevance to the staff letting you know whether the owners were cooperative, whether they got things done quickly.
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I
[01:39:44] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
don't think you do need to see every picture from every inspection in the average case, but maybe there's a particular case where that is very relevant and we need to let code staff kind of use their discretion in letting you know what is important with the in between if there's anything important. But I think it is important for them to at least let you know they've been very cooperative or they've not been cooperative at all because
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[01:40:12] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
or the amount of time you give that.
[01:40:14] Speaker 1
That could be a comment that gets added that you did get to talk to the owner or no, you didn't talk to the owner. You
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[01:40:21] Speaker 1
to the tenant or
[01:40:22] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
you only
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talked
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to the
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broken car,
[01:40:25] Speaker 1
you know, ‸ whatever.
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[01:40:31] Speaker 3
could be involved just to get something done.
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[01:40:37] Speaker 3
So every case is different. That's why we gotta listen to all the cases.
[01:40:42] Speaker 2
And also just to let you know. The pictures you're seeing here tonight are only a fraction of the pictures that my officers end up taking. Um, so I usually select what we need to prove the violation over the course of time. I bet you on each one of these cases is probably another 20 pictures sitting because it's a redundant picture. It's showing the same thing.
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[01:41:07] Speaker 2
pick and choose a little more. Try to get. All the violations on one shot instead of
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zooming
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in on stuff and we can try to limit. You know, those photos. Um, so we will work on it.
[01:41:19] Speaker 1
And
[01:41:20] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I believe all criticism is constructive. So I need to hear from my board so I know what to give them. So ‸ we definitely want to do that.
[01:41:28] Speaker 1
And aren't we happy you don't have to use film in your camera. Hey,
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[01:41:31] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
remember those days.
[01:41:34] Speaker 1
‸ I
[01:41:34] Speaker 2
remember having. Poster board with pictures taped on it on an easel in front of the board and I remember handing out all the pictures to the board and let it run down the thing.
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[01:41:48] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
And we used to start ‸ seven o'clock too. ‸ Yeah,
[01:41:55] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I was thinking.
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[01:41:56] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Right. But sometimes we did go after midnight. Oh, ‸ yeah. Frequently after midnight. We even had.
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[01:42:10] Speaker 1
Have a good one.
[01:42:11] Speaker 3
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:42:18] No voice detected · Unclear audio
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Flag: a language review questioned the wording · 01:42:18–01:42:21 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
[01:42:20] Speaker 2 · Unclear audio
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[01:42:21] No voice detected · Unclear audio
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Flag: words only one machine reading has (possibly not said); the recognizer flagged its own output; the recognized words and the detected speech do not line up · 01:42:21–01:42:24 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
[01:42:23] Attribution uncertain · Unclear audio
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[01:42:23] No voice detected · Unclear audio
[unclear audio — 0:01]

Transcript revision built 2026-10-27T10:16:05 · 12,514 ordinary words, 3,469 in suspect passages, 123 machine re-recognized.

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