How are you doing tonight?
Good.
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I think everybody knows.
Okay, everybody heard
the
sound noise?
You can pull the mic closer. Okay. Name and address.
Sherry Ling, [address], Unit 701, Cocoa, Florida,
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And the agenda that we have today with the people that came from Whitley Bay West is to talk about the concert that was placed in
on
our faces on Sunday.
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The level of sound coming out of the music behind the Oasis bar in the parking lot was unbelievable. It actually you could feel the concrete of the building shaking under my feet on the seventh floor in the hallway. So what we are really concerned about is that we pay very high taxes to live on the
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and serenity on weekends and having a bandshell in the riverfront park where you would assume that a concert of that magnitude would take place because of the absolute sound of it. We're just wondering
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a decibel level done on that music so that it could be quieted down or shut down. So we were wondering if there isn't a possibility of having that available, that if there is a problem in ‸ the future that somebody holding a permit for this could actually be asked to shut down or at least we would rather it be shut down, but whatever you guys decide I guess will be it. But the other thing that I wanted to bring forward is that the band members were using profanity and you could hear that as loudly as the music.
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We also have children that live in the building that abuts the Oasis building. And there are children in Barclay Square. So that is also an issue too. It's not just the sound issue, but it's the profanity issue with our children. And we find that to be unacceptable. And we just want to know also about permitting. There was alcohol being served in the parking lot in big, large tubs. And ‸ I don't know about the open container policy for having an event in a parking lot, whether or not you can have open containers, and we would like to have that addressed as well. We're just looking for guidance.
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that, yes, there is a commercial, but we are on the line and everything on the north side of that is absolute residential. And I included the marina because people live on their boats in the marina. People come and bring their boats down from up north and overnight in marina. So we want them to have a good feeling about Cocoa Village. Thank you, Councilman.
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John, go ahead. Do you want to hear all the I ‸ might be able to provide some insight. We have about
five.
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Well, I
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if I can address some of those and may alleviate some of the questions. Sir, could you wait
just one second? Sure.
‸ I just want to state for the record that the city didn't issue any permits for this event.
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So I just the ‸ governing regulations related to the event
or
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the noise ordinance.
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‸ a decibel meter.
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We were looking into purchasing another one, so the police department will have one
and
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the event. Something like this happens in the future.
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And then with regard to the open containers, it was on private property. So ‸ unless they take it into the public
right away
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there's no violation. Because, I mean,
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do. You know, they could have an outside you know, it's just no different than Norman's having an outside you know, serving alcohol outside. It's just so
I
mean, they weren't to my knowledge I didn't attend it. They were not out in the public
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If they were, somebody could have contacted the police, and they would probably have told them, listen, you've got to stay. Because ‸ the business proprietor under law has the responsibility to inform their patrons that they're not allowed to take that they shouldn't be taking the alcohol into the
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or ‸ the public realm.
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getting the police department a decibel meter so there's one, and they can respond to it. Because the only governing ordinance is really what is it, 95 decibels, Steve?
No, no, not for that type of for concerts, it would be 98.
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So for residential, it would be It's not
residential, though. It's commercial. ‸ I understand it's ‸ budding residential. The
residential is where it would be measured from.
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And that would be at between 7 a.m. and 7 p.m. would be 60 DBA. And 7 p.m. to 7 a.m. would be 55 DBA.
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the ‸ residential measuring at the residential property would be 60 DBA.
No, it was during the day. That's what I'm saying. Is
that
70 you think you No, no,
no. 60. 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.
55.
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Okay.
7 p.m. to 7 a.m. overnight would have to be 55. So,
I mean, we can we can I can tell you that the proprietor met with staff in advance and was advised that there was no permitting requirement. Was also advised that, you know, that there was residential
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close proximity and that they needed to be, you know, aware of that.
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I don't know.
I
mean, they leased the property.
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The parking lot
is shared
by all the tenants
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that building. It's not their parking lot, so
Yeah. I don't know. I haven't spoke to Al or Mike Sealy.
And that's who I said they get in contact. We as well equally as well.
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have it for future reference. If I may make that suggestion, Mr. Mayor and
council
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So that if this ever comes up, yes, they have the authority, the right to call the police department. But when you
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on the far end here, you're within your own rights.
Yes.
And knowledge is power. But I think if we sit down and talk
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have a great understanding.
You
know,
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I'm sure that was louder than 60.
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units ‸ there, I mean, inside their own personal home, you could hear.
so
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So really, the only legal side of it is I mean,
there's nothing we can do after the fact other than reaching out to the property owner and talking to the business proprietor. And then also getting with the police department and getting them a sound meter for the purposes of if ‸ something like this was to happen again in the future, that their officers, you know, the watch commander would have it. They could go ‸ out. They could make a measurement. So here's the ordinance. They're in violation. You need to, you know, cut it down.
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Name and address.
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Thank you. Evening, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Gerald Blanchard. I live at [address]. And also, I'm currently the vice president of the Whitley Bay Homeowners Association. So ‸ I got many phone calls and many people knocking on my door on Sunday. Many of the discussion that's going on has answered many of the questions that I wanted to bring forth here this evening. One of the items is that inside our units, and I'm in an inside unit, the noise level was so high, I myself had to increase the level of the volume on my television to be able to hear what I was watching. I thought that was very inconvenient. And I know we've had a problem in the past with
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but that was addressed and it has been a lot better. We just hope that if a meeting can be made or that, that maybe a representative from the board of directors of the Homeowners Association could attend it also, so that we can revert back to the residents as to what happened in the meetings. That's a good idea. Because getting hearsay does not help us solve problems. And the noise that was coming when I was in, you go into my bathroom in my condominium, and
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that I thought I would have my CD player on in the bathroom. It was extremely loud, and if it can be addressed with the decibel machines and requirements, which it seems that's going to be addressed, all I'm asking is that
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representative, ‸ the residents, or someone can be involved in these meetings and we can see so that we can have our concerns addressed at that same time. Thank you very much.
Yes, sir. Thank you. Cheryl Cogswell.
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evening. My name is Cheryl Cogswell. I live at [address]
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And to answer some of your questions, Mike Selig was not aware that this was going on. A call was made to him. He said he ‸ did not give permission for it. As far as the over 60 decibels, I wanted to respond. I appreciate your input and what you've told us. But it was absolutely over 60 decibels. And I was wondering if this ever happens again. Who? Who is accountable to be on call or is there anyone on call that can address the situation that we can call and let someone aware of it?
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And I believe he taped it and photographed it and sent it to the city manager.
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It was unbelievable. It
truly was unbelievable. We have elderly people in our building that are sick. We have people that are on chemo. We have people. I went down to check on one of the couples that live on the ninth floor right above it. It was ‸ so loud in their unit. It was like they didn't have windows. I mean, it was that loud.
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I'm sure everybody here will.
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I don't think that it should be at the expense of our neighbors becoming physically ill from it. And it was really that loud. There are babies.
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It really was. And
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could call. The mayor couldn't stop it. No one could stop it. And I was also wondering if someone violates this, like they were over the 60 decibel. If they had been told that they had to be respectful, is there a penalty for this? They were in violation of it.
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But why is it not documented is my number one question. Who should have been there? It seems like to me we need to be prepared for things like this. And the motorcycles were out there, 30 of them or more at times, revving their engines. Is there not a decibel level for motorcycles? And they're racing and ‸ just standing there, gunning their motors. So ‸ we would really appreciate your help. We need it. We really do need it. Thank you very much.
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for
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I did send the video out. I'm not sure how many people did hear it.
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Would you like to hear? It's 50 seconds.
You got it.
2-22. That was inside.
It's afternoon.
Are you on the west side? This is what we have been working with.
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I was on the 10th floor. This is walking down the hallway.
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So just to let you know, different bands played at different times. So we did have a lull, and when Mayor Parrish came over, actually, you were there while the soft band played. Yeah, the soft band. Yes. Because throughout the day, different bands played at different times. So really, truthfully, if anybody lived in our building, just as you said, it was an unacceptable amount of noise.
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if you have a building with a parking lot that has shared usage in the building, the different businesses, and then
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years, this office building decides to, out of the blue, bands show up and start playing. I would think we would get some type of notice that this parking lot for the shared businesses is going to be changed into a band arena.
I don't know if you would be given notice, but I'm not well-versed with what's going on with respect to whether it's a permitted use or not. I mean, that's something I could discuss, certainly, with the staff. The noise issue seems pretty egregious ‸ from what I'm hearing. And I think that issue can be easily addressed through the city's noise ordinance to keep the decibel base down. The ordinance does provide significant penalties for violations of the noise ordinance and also permits the city to ‸ seek redress if necessary if there's ‸ habitual violations of the ordinance.
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I'm just thinking, you know, the Oasis Lounge has patrons that come every night. That's what ‸ everybody wants.
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But when all of a sudden a band is moved outside to their parking lot and no one is notified, we never
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mean, how do you handle that? That's if
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‸ If you decided to take a band out on the
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Okay. ‸ And started a band, would your neighbor say, oh, I'm ‸ sorry, this is bothering us? You see what I yeah. So
I mean, for me, if I was doing it at the end
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Yeah.
We
always I'm always very low.
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owners of the Oasis. That was so off the wall, so loud.
Yeah.
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was. I don't think those guys could have played, you know. Right. You know what
I'm
saying. But the point is, it's something probably should have been done. I wouldn't do that.
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Okay.
That's yeah, so we're going to be able to have a meeting, like you said. Yep. And if something else comes up and it's too loud, we are able to call the police. They will have a sound meter.
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but my understanding is that if this Oasis bar decides to have this once a month, every weekend, what's ‸ our next step?
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it's doing what we talked about. I think even the just because of the way the buildings are and they're so tall
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so boxed in. Exactly. I believe that at 40 decibel whatever it is, a lower decibel than the
law
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40 is an
average conversation.
Yeah. I think even that's going to be loud. Yeah.
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I just want to say ‸ what we can do is we can get the decibel meter.
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to, you know, the proprietor. I mean, I believe him to be a reasonable person. I don't think he probably intended to do that. So we'll reach out to him, reach out to the property owner, and try to say, listen, this is you know, here's what the requirements are. Clearly exceeded. Yes, I don't have a measurement.
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But I've listened to tape. So we'll reach out to him, reach out to the property owner. But the other thing that we'll do is ‸ we will temporarily reassign the current decibel meter to the police department. So in the event that there's any other instance like this, you can call, and then the police department will show up. But to ‸ you
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the question, what are the penalties? A violation any person violating the provision of the article, meaning the noise ordinance, shall be prosecuted in the same manner as a misdemeanor or prosecuted in ‸ conjunction with another section of the code. Such violation may be prosecuted in the
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You know, that's where we'll talk with the attorney about, you know, the whole nuisance issue in terms of land ‸ use. ‸ But in the meantime, ‸ I think probably the most reasonable approach at this point
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I've heard from the mayor's voicemail is we'll reach out to the business owner and the property owner.
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is because
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no permit. One, even on special events permits, we don't send out a notice for something that's happening in the park. So there was no permit. You know, this is the business owner. They did it on their own. They put ‸ it out there. And so that's there would not have been any notice.
And, Connie, just to John's point, that PA system was so large or big and powerful that even just talking in it, you'd hear inside your ‸ unit. You know what I'm saying? Yes.
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Oh, definitely.
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The person on the top floor left.
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One is on chemo. The other one ‸ has a real problem. So we have some sick, sick people. Well,
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Okay. And then hopefully we'll have a meeting.
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Your
person, your representative, and then we'll go from there. Thank you. He may just say, hey, I'm not doing this again. Yeah. I mean
I believe I hope. I've you know, I've had conversations with the proprietor. Before, not
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Not any regulatory issues, just on a you know, ‸ professionally.
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We explain, you know, the situation and how the it was just it just it was over the top. And I don't think anything less than not having a concert probably would be acceptable.
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Right. This is why we went and revisited it last year. Yeah. You know, we have standards.
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levels. We
rewrote that ordinance of March of last year and established very tight, you know, standards. I'm looking at it now.
yeah
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Yeah. Okay.
That's okay.
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Thank you.
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If anybody wants to look online and turn it to the city code because
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link on the page, it's Chapter 13.5 of the nuisances, Article 2, noise. And it has all of the provisions.
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And we think It
would be in the city code under Chapter 13.5, nuisances, Article 2, noise.
And
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you can, you know, look at it again.
I want to thank everybody for coming. Absolutely. That was a big deal.
Sorry for the disturbance.
Yeah.
But you have my number.
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Yes,
ma'am.
Thank you for your fun. Thank
you. Thank you for coming.
Yeah. Thank you for coming.
Sorry for the inconvenience. You don't have to leave.
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coming to dinner?
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Thank you. Okay. Lawrence Sinclair. You're up.
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Yeah,
I
know. ‸ I ain't going to complain about anything. Except one.
Lawrence Sinclair, [address], Cocoa, Florida. Distinguished panel. Mayor. Council people. City manager. Super attorney. And directors. Why does the city hall have 65 Stone Street on Orange Street?
Well, actually, that is the rear of the building. It's the rear entrance. I can tell you because I was the one that assigned it. Right. And we purposely assigned it to Stone Street because there was a negative stigmatism attached to Stone Street. If you were to order a pizza on Stone Street, the local delivery company would not deliver. So ‸ we therefore judiciously put the address to Stone Street. That's the front of the building.
You must have Pizza Hut because they won't deliver on Mitchell after dark.
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what name it is. But I can tell you, ‸ we tried to one time get a pizza delivered and they would not deliver Stone Street. So we're like, well, that's not fair. So.
Yesterday, it made me look like a complete idiot.
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Knowledge is power. Nobody saw. Knowledge is
power.
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Actually, I just wanted to let you know, 1061, I'm ‸ sure you guys all got the email.
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And I sent everybody a brief brochure, approximately 61 pages, and believe me, that's not even close. Flyers and posters will be here on Friday. And we can use any volunteers for May 14th and 15th if anybody wants to come down to the Civic Center and lend a hand.
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She's going to be out of town.
Unfortunately, I will be out of town. However, I have recruited some friends with a truck and a trailer to help them move the stuff to the Civic Center. I also recruited a donation to help offset the costs of leasing the Civic Center. That
was Mr. Kehoe, which we thanked on the website.
Yeah. Of Kehoe Real Estate Services. He helped pay the ‸ fees for the Civic Center. So, no, I will, unfortunately, be in North Carolina. So, you guys are going to have to step up and help. It's March, or May 14th and 15th. It's during the craft fair.
Mm-hmm. And I
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wants them.
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Center for sale. There's some really, really nice stuff. Look it up. Some very, very high-end artwork, as well as some great collectibles. So, he should be very successful.
Is it? Excellent.
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Lawrence. That's important.
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Yes, sir. Thank you. When is Mother's Day weekend?
Actually, Mother's Day weekend
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which is the first Sunday of the month. The 8th will be the second Sunday. It will be the weekend following Mother's Day weekend.
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okay. My mother's in Louisiana.
Shame. Shame, shame,
shame.
Well, we arranged it to be on the same weekend with the craft fair
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event that someone walks through and slips and falls or trips or whatever, so that we're covered and the city is also listed as additional coverage.
One other question, Mr. Mayor. This is during the time that we're doing the raffling?
Yes. We're going to actually do the raffle Sunday afternoon at the event. And what are the
prizes again?
You have
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an action camera, which is Wi-Fi waterproof. What else can I tell you?
And I have tickets also, if anybody would like to buy some.
Yeah, actually, I brought some too. In fact,
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Yes, city manager, thank you very much. Assistant city manager still needs to follow
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Thank you very much.
Thanks, Larry.
And great job over there. Probably more acres. Appreciate that. Former deputy mayor
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Thank you,
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Thank you.
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Has everybody done a copy?
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Thank you. Okay. Alex
Greenwood, [address], Cocoa, Florida. Council, mayor, greetings. This is in reference to another ordinance that's going to need to be looked into. I did some homework the last time that I was before you folks.
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ordinances. ‸ One was created in 95. And then another one was followed up in 97. The problem is, ‸ and I'm not going to take time now to go over it, but there was some contradictions between the two of what its initial intent was. ‸ So
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be more than happy to talk individually when the various council members are available. But I had mentioned to the city manager that I was going to try to work with him on this because it's a situation where we've got to respect the oak trees that we have. I also found out that
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you his name ‸ was Tony Loretta on Merritt Island. You all might remember a big article in the newspaper.
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and got fined tremendously for it.
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round in diameter, now you have to replace it on your own expense to 15 inches round in diameter, just as an example. Also, it dictates what type of tree. They're wanting a number one Florida tree. That's the ‸ best of trees that are available that will grow in our area. And they dictate how high the canopy can be. Now, our ordinance doesn't cover things as intently as this shows that we have.
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there's a median here because it's got to be something that can prevent where there's an oak tree here today and an oak tree tomorrow gone. It can't be that simple. Some statements were made that, wait a minute, what about infrastructure and all that? Well, the three, not counting mine, in front of Murdoch's that were removed, there was no infrastructure problems. And ‸ if there was, you would see a cut in the pavement. You would see a lot of extra work being done with the pipes. Water would be turned off. You know, drainage. All that kind of thing would happen.
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about. And I'm not going to go into the other eight that's proposed to be removed at the old City Hall site. So this is something I'm going to try to put together and see if we can come to some kind of an upgrade on the tree ordinance, just like the noise ordinance. I agree with everybody that was here. I mean, that needs to be looked into because, I'm sorry,
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got people in half a million dollar units and up, and they have to deal with that? No. Thank you. Thank you.
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John,
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Okay. I'm looking at the codes. Yeah, the codes. Okay.
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So it deserves being looked at again. Yes. Absolutely.
Because obviously we're not using it.
I should note that the last trees that Mr. Rehman mentioned were four years ago. They weren't recently. Yeah. Name
and address for the record. How are you doing tonight? Good evening.
Fine, thank you. My name is Norris Park, and I live at [address].
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this evening as the chairman of the Firefighters Pension Board to just give you an update and a briefing of what's going on with our pension plan and just to answer any questions you may have concerning the Firefighters Pension. At this time, I just signed a letter a couple of weeks ago and sent it to the state with the intention that we are going to continue an 8% multiplier.
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where this commitment that we had made. This was under the advice of our actuary. Everything is going well actuarially. In fact, we had a report at our last meeting.
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of the city has gone down some. I won't say significant, but it has gone down some. So that's our goal, and that's what we're trying to establish with this particular fund. We also diversified. In fact, I just signed a letter last week.
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particular entities into another vehicle, which is commercial real estate. So this is an adventure we hadn't been in before, but under the advice of the pension board,
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gentleman that runs the funds for us told us this would be a sound investment at this time. We thought it was so as well, and so we'll have that change, and hopefully that will take our money and diversify it a little bit more. As you know, the market has been going up and down quite a bit recently, but it is not going to increase from what we've heard from our advisors greatly within the next couple of years. So we're looking to make as much as we can possibly. Again, Mrs. Butler's department as well as the city manager's department has worked well with us, and
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this time, which will go into the drop program. And we had some issues that came up, but as soon as those issues came up, City Hall was right on top of it and providing our custodian with the information so that we can get the proper calculations.
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calculations, but I think we have everything worked out there, so we're doing well with that. City clerk's office has also provided the chambers for our meetings, and we certainly wouldn't invite you to come to our meetings at any time. Our next one is May the 23rd, and I know a lot of you all work during the daytime, so I understand not being able to attend. But if there's anything that we can do as a board for you, we certainly want to be able to have that open door and conversation with you as well. At this time, is there anyone that has any questions for the board
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How long have you been serving on our fire pension board, North?
I just hit 20 years with the pension board this past year.
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they're coming up. ‸ Thank you. Thank you. I've enjoyed it. I've learned a lot. I've had a lot of experiences that I've had to ‸ deal with, and some were tragic and some were very personal because of the individuals
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happened to. ‸ And you're now
retired from your own fire service.
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I had 35 years in the city of Rockledge.
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South Cocoa.
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South Cocoa. There we go. I
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‸ I've always lived in Cocoa and enjoyed Cocoa. I'm the third generation, so we're very proud to live here.
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‸ I have a question. Yes, sir. A few council meetings ago, sir. Yes, sir. It's clearly advertised and televised. Yes. Former Councilwoman Joanne Corby with her scenario with her husband.
Yes, sir.
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Yes, yes. And my question is to you, sir. I'm going to do it from a biblical perspective first.
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when the husband dies, the widower is left.
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Yes, sir.
And we should protect them.
Yes, sir.
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it, and I know you were one of the pinnacle points and played a pivotal part in the decision along with us going to court,
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What's your take on that, sir?
My take ‸ as a trustee for the pension board, at this time, we have fulfilled our obligation from the pension aspect of it. In ‸ the beginning, when Chief Corby passed away, there was some issues as far as how much percentage she should receive. She came before us, and at that time, our
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advised us we need to let this go to the court systems. So we went to the court
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They awarded her 3% multiplier, which we agreed with wholeheartedly because the state had already called us on it.
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to be the, my understanding of her request, was that she wanted to have the option to choose which package you could choose if you were a retiree. And this was not an option under our plan that you could choose it after the death of the ‸ participant. So with that said, Mrs. Corby went to legal ‸ rounds to see if we can get this answered. She, my understanding is we prevailed in the court here locally, and she appealed that decision.
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an arbitrator in West Palm Beach, and his opinion rendered the same. And she still appealed this, and it went to the appeal corps or appellate court in Daytona, and they upheld what we had said all along.
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we have done everything we could possibly do for her. We were, of course, saddened that Mike had passed away and not had the opportunity to enjoy the retirement that he had so
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worked for and had earned. But we also wanted to make sure that we had given her ample support from the plan as much as we could by law. And by doing so, we could not give her any more than what we had given her before.
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life insurance policy purchase after the person that died.
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You couldn't change the beneficiary package as she ‸ had wished it to be changed. So, of course, we ‸ wanted to do everything we could for her, and we thought we have, and we felt we have done
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And
‸ we understand her.
We
respect her. Of course, she's a grieving woman, and we understand that we
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Because,
Brother West, sir, the perception is, and if I may, Mr. Mayor and Council members, the perception is, you have a client woman ‸ here, and if you're looking at her on television,
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Is there anything remotely close that we can do to help her out remotely close?
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She was to receive a benefit of 3% multiplier for 10 years certain. ‸ After the 10 years certain, there would be no more funds coming from the pension to her as the survivor of Chief Corby. So, as far as the pension board, we have fulfilled any obligation we had from the pension. And my understanding by the public records, the city as well has ‸ provided some life insurance, some workman comp, and
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I'm sorry. ‸ I was asked. I'll go over it.
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Yeah. So,
I just know that ‸ we have tried to do everything we can for her, and we certainly understand her concern. And ‸ we understand your concern as well.
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She
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can.
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Exercise her rights. That's correct.
And if you do it repetitiously enough, ‸ after 13 times, it becomes habit for me.
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Yes, sir. So,
the point that I'm saying, and if I'm a person saying, looking out there in television land, and seeing this.
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Well, again, we're saddened that we lost Chief Corby before he had a chance to enjoy it. Absolutely. But we know that we are to provide for her, and we have done so as the board can do.
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He had obligated that his survivor would receive, him and his survivor would receive a certain amount,
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and then she died. And so, to this day, he still has a reduced benefit because that was the choice that he had made back then, and that was the choice that was ‸ the only opportunity he had to do it. So, it isn't the first time it's occurred, and sadly, well, hopefully it's the
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or dying while in this capacity. But, of course, we want to provide for them if they do.
‸ Thank you.
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Thank you all, and thank you very much. Yes, sir. I'm sorry.
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I just,
you know, based on the conversation earlier with the
member,
at the time that Deputy Chief Cordy passed, he was eligible for early retirement benefits from the pension plan. However, he had not yet retired. He never elected to retire. He was not eligible for normal retirement benefits at the time of his untimely death. I mean, that's kind of one of the situations or the challenges. It's a very, it's an unfortunate loss. It's very difficult and complex,
this
whole, you know, what should be paid out. It's a very unfortunate situation. But to ‸ summarize, based on the request of somebody, in total, the family received, you know, through the city's various policies and
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life insurance,
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And then there was additional payout for the time that was accrued without getting, you know, the, for his ‸ accrued vacation and sick time. And I believe that the ‸ pension, it's,
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So, I mean, that's the amount, unfortunately, that the city, you know,
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that they're placed in when you have a circuit court ruling that says, here's what you're to pay out, and they are, they have a fiduciary responsibility to the pension. And so it's, it's a very difficult situation. I understand that. I don't know. There, I don't think there's any answer in terms of, uh, other, you know, to, I
mean,
I know the request was to make her
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to make me whole, but
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pain and the suffering Mrs. Corby's going through. You know, but I think the, the city, you know, had paid into the pension, deputy chief paid into the pension, the ordinance determined, circuit court upheld, this is what it was due because he had not elected to retire at that point yet. While he may have been eligible for early retirement,
he
wasn't eligible for normal retirement. And then the city had a number of policies in place to help, you know, I mean, no amount of money, you know, minimizes or takes away the pain and grief from a loss. There's no denying, but there was some policies that the city had to provide some sense of financial security in the aftermath or in the unlikely event of a, uh, untimely death of one of our, any member of our city staff, and especially one of our public safety workers.
Mr.
Parks, thank you.
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Thank you.
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Yes, sir.
Whatever we could do, I think it would be beneficial. And that's just my assessment.
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branch many times before. Many times. And I will keep my happy butt out there again. I'm just saying, I'm just hoping somewhere in the hearts of the people that we can do something to additionally assist and aid her. That's all I'm saying.
All I have to
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Yeah.
But as old country
boy
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and the right thing to do, you know where I stand on that. But that's a different venue. So we'll move on because we have limited time on the delegation. Thank you. Appreciate it.
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All in favor. Aye. Aye. Aye. Hey, Tyler.
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Very good. Okay. Steve? Do
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I'm going to do this.
Just
about to do that, Steve.
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amending appendix A zoning of the city code to allow craft breweries as a special exception use in the central business district, CBD, zoning district
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repeal of prior inconsistent ordinances and resolution severability incorporation into the code and an effective date. This is first reading of this ordinance.
And just
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a little bit of additional background,
measure where
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we recently adopted an ordinance allowing for craft breweries in the core commercial zoning district, which is just adjacent to the CBD, that was based on a specific applicant who had this ‸ business he wants to open up at a location here in Cocoa Village. And subsequent after that, we received additional inquiry about Cocoa Village and the CBD and potential ‸ for other opportunities for craft breweries here in the village area as well. So we, staff initiated this amendment to the ordinance to allow for craft breweries as a special exception in the CBD zoning district.
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and I'd be happy to answer your questions.
Mr. Mayor, I got a question. Sure,
ma'am.
Is there ‸ a time limit on this, Mr. Belden? Will this go on endlessly?
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Okay.
All right. Thank you. I'm going to open this up to the audience. Anybody like to speak on this ordinance?
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Just one question. What's the...
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1052 Mitchell Street, Cocoa, Florida. One question. What is defined as the central business district, and can this amendment be utilized? For example, there was a beverage store over on Fisk that applied for a special exception to add a liquor and wine under the same ordinance. So my question is, would it just limit it here to the village area?
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Yeah.
The
central business
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It's a little bit... It extends a little bit larger than the core village area. I
mean,
we have a zoning map. I can certainly provide so you can see the exact boundaries.
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1, down to the southern border of the city,
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but I can get you a specific map. So that's the only area that this would apply to, this ordinance.
But could you at least advise what the previous ordinance allowed for another zoning district as a special exception?
Right. That was the core commercial zoning. Which
is also...
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And ‸ again, it would be easier if I had the map in front of me.
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But it is limited in those two areas primarily.
All right. I just wanted to make sure, because like I said, you were meeting with the gentleman. It was... Sometimes I've noticed we have businesses and owners that come in under certain boards and seek exceptions, and they haven't actually been forthcoming. And in that particular case, it was an owner looking to establish an additional alcoholic business under the
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Other than that, I'm okay.
‸ Thank
you.
Larry, thank you. Anybody
else like to come up and...
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So
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All in favor? Aye. Aye. And opposed. Good.
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I have it.
Okay.
This is to consider the appointment of Mr. Alec Greenwood as a regular member of the Planning and Zoning Board through November 2018.
Motion to approve.
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I'll second it for discussion.
Okay.
Mr. Greenwood, sir. Councilman, former Councilman Greenwood. How many other boards have you been a part of, sir, prior to your council and even post your council?
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on the very original steering board to approve the redevelopment board, RDA, on
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conception.
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I was there for about 10 years, I'm guessing.
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up here? No?
Thank you for the discussion.
‸ Okay. There's a motion.
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So with you, Mayor?
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Okay. All right, Alex.
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Okay. Now I move to city business.
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amending the fiscal year 2016 budget by using contingency funds to fund an additional human resources coordinator position in the ‸ administrative services department.
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All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
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Gary? I got
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Okay, good.
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Ed? Sorry.
That's all right. Mayor, Council, this item is associated with the Florida East Coast Railway.
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for reconstruction of road crossings at Peachtree Street and Roselle Jones Drive. We're requesting approval of a resolution to amend the budget to use reserves and other funds to fund this work. Basically, the railroad notified the city last September after our budget was approved that they would be redoing two crossings.
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Last month, they provided the cost of about $200,000 to redo these two crossings. And we've taken funds from projects that we can't complete this year, reserves, and have funded the $200,000 estimated cost of redoing these two crossings. ‸ If there's any questions, I'd be happy to answer.
Any questions? I read it.
So
move
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Check. Yes, sir. Item number three is to approve a budget resolution and budget transfers for the radio antenna array work on the city's elevated water tank utilizing the Brevard County BOCC contract CI11-151 and to purchase the radio and associate equipment
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This is to put the antenna array back on the tank. And this is a fairly complex agenda item if you didn't see all those 17 attachments that was in there because it's funded by multiple departments for the benefit of having communication, secondary communication for emergency purposes. although the utility does use the
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on a daily basis when it's available. So I'm going
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Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Good job.
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That's all right. He's got it.
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amending Chapter 2, Administration, Article 6, General Employee's Retirement Plan of the city of Cocoa
Code
of Ordinances, amending Section 2-105, Definitions, amending Section 2-107, Board of Trustees, amending Section 2-108, Finances, and Fund Management,
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providing for incorporation into the code providing for severability of provisions repealing all ordinances and resolutions in conflict herewith and providing an effective date okay
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to answer any questions any
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motion
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request to approve a resolution amending the FY 2016 budget using general fund reserves to purchase three parcels owned by the housing
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for purchase and sale also to authorize the city manager to execute the attached contract for purchase and sale and
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just to give you a little bit of a background back in September of 2015 City of Coco and the housing authority entered an interlocal agreement basically that agreement was to memorialize the desire of the city and the housing authority to promote development of quality affordable mixed income housing in Diamond Square community redevelopment area this purchase in this purchase the housing authority agrees to sell three parcels tax IDs two four six one five one eight two four six one seven four five and two four two four zero seven nine in the amount of $111,000 once those parcels are acquired by the city staff shall seek to shall seek a developer to design and construct affordable workforce housing and it will be noted that the minimum square footage of these homes shall be 1200 square feet we are proposing that there be two
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and two if you look in your backup there's a map that highlights the parcels being purchased and we've labeled those as parcels
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A, B, and C. um And so the parcels
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uh The parcel of landing along Stone ‸ Blake Street, located
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Those lots are 80 by 125 feet. And then the land uh just to the south, uh we're proposing three homes uh as well. And then
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Center, could accommodate up to 14 homes uh for a total of 22 homes at this time. how
many What's the square footage on those
home
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minimum of 1200 square feet. Minimum. ‸ Minimum. We're also, as I mentioned, uh targeting workforce
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for the meeting we had. Correct. Some of the results, right, John, pretty much, where we teamed up. Absolutely, sir. And said it like it was that we wanted home ownership. Thank
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And, John, one question to you for the audience. How many uh house lots
total? I think, isn't it total we could get 22? Yes, 22. 22. ‸ And it's, as everybody knows, the Housing Authority's been,
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partners.
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attend a great housing authority, but they've been sitting on the property. It's been vacant for a long time, and we've been working with them for years to advance the redevelopment of this. And I think the the idea and the concept is, is if you have all these properties and these single-family lots together, you could potentially attract a a a a not-for-profit or a community housing development organization, and they could, through economies you know scale, they could uh develop these at a lesser cost than it would ‸ typically cost, because right now in the Diamond Square redevelopment area, while the situation is
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the idea is, with the city providing, you know you know, acquiring this land, we could facilitate, you know, because it's just sitting there vacant, it's it's not it's doing nothing to stabilize the Diamond Square redevelopment area, and uh that's something that's uh sorely needed. And so this, along with the Harry T. Moore Center, the potential for the you know what
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is doing on Stone Street, with the
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in terms of Complete Street, some of the development that's happening in close proximity along 520. uh there's other potential developments that are coming, I think, that are going to wow people here in the future, uh so stay tuned. And then there's also you have the the redevelopment or the reconstruction or the the new construction of the
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that would really kind of provide a stabilizing force in the in the community and help reinvigorate and revitalize the Diamond Square community. So um it's i I you know, wearing that community development, economic development hat that I used to wear frequently, this is a really good you know, we negotiated uh with the Housing Authority. i ‸ should say even related to this, the
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The uh I think it's on the county agenda coming up where the county is going to be providing
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to the city, you know, to help us develop the other four remaining Regina Myra properties. And then we
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develop the other two. ‸ then you kind of keep that cycle going. So uh ‸ this is part of that
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Unfortunately, you know, the state's not you know, they're the state housing initiative program has not given us the uh the resources I think we need. And our
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funds continue to dwindle each year. So this is the city kind of saying we're going to be responsible and take after our own. Good. So from staff's perspective,
management's
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perspective, ‸ highly recommend this this uh this acquisition. As
we construct these homes, they will be on our tax rolls, correct?
Ultimately,
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Steve, um parcels one and two, the rest of the houses on that block, um those are 1200 square foot and two car garages also, right?
I don't know if they're 1200 square feet. They're pretty close to 1200 yeah
the only The only uh variance that they received, you know, since I participate was the the lot sizes. Yeah,
the lots are very small, yeah. Correct. Yeah.
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by the housing authority? That was phase
one of what was supposed to be the Magnolia Point development projects uh
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Under the former people that were tasked with providing leadership, whether or not they did that's a whole other story. Right. did
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with down payment assistance um in that neighborhood because it was the same issue
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to the
extent that it is today. ‸ I think the as
the the The appraisals were coming in much higher in those days, I think.
But, and that, you know, and again, the working with
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Sean again, uh Steve, myself,
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uh it's In my 14 and almost 14 and a half years here, we've never had the communication and the dialogue that we've had with the Housing Authority today. ‸ You know, I remember when
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Housing Authority and the then Executive Director, which is a couple removed, uh they wouldn't even meet with the city. They
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have anything to do with the city. And so what the level that we have today, the partnership, the collaboration, I think uh is it I think it's really positive. And, uh but going back, the uh So
we're going to be looking for a not-for-profit to do the building and
Are we going to do ‸ You know, if there's a for-profit entity out there that wants to to do it, but I think it'll be a challenge for a for-profit entity. I mean,
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mean, they still have to pay their salaries. They still have to pay overhead. They still have to, you know, but ‸ Is there
a source for down payment assistance for potential buyers now? ‸ Because a lot of that money's gone away.
Well, we do have some funds, yes, we do. One. And then secondly, we also, uh like we had the diamond The Dr.
julie
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Smith Center designated a community Eligible community contribution tax credit program. We've had this area in Diamond Square designated the same, so potentially corporate contributions could be solicited for the purposes of like, you know, if they want to
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corporate income tax, you know, in Florida.
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to try to go up there and raise funds. But also the idea is that, you know, if we can continue collaborating with the county, uh with use mac Leveraging our resources, there's not many You know, we'll look at other foundations. You know, we have been looking at them as well.
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federal government just set aside some money for um The choice neighborhood, yes. ‸ neighborhoods, but You said we've designated that area of what, so that we could get non-profit?
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and it's it's a it's a remnant, if you will, of the Enterprise Zone program. Is
it still available?
Yes. Could
we apply it to Mr. Sinclair's neighborhood, maybe?
uh Well, it would probably be more of a challenge there. uh We can look at, we benefited from the fact that ‸ was located, when we designated this, it was prior to the sun setting of the Enterprise Zone program. And Broadmoor Acres was not in the Enterprise Zone program, because it was limited by virtue of
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the local bill that was passed. It was limited to the the areas of the three redevelopment agencies.
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it reduced it, because you still had to meet certain socioeconomic conditions. When I mean meet, you had there was a threshold. You couldn't exceed the poverty and all that. So it's like it started at uh just west of Florida Avenue, going up to 520,
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the railroad tracks, coming all the way down ‸ taking into uh Diamond Square. Okay. So we could look at the possibility of uh what the process is for ‸ community contribution tax credit program outside of that. i To be honest, I don't know. I know of the program. and uh
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you'll find that Mr. Sinclair's neighborhood is probably um ‸ worse off financially
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that we're fixing the building.
one and two well um also i want to bounce this to you john this is a step in the right direction i see you there over there deputy mayor i
see you loud and clear ‸ beautiful i'm gonna ‸ keep my mouth closed
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remember the last things we said when we were giving direction
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is ‸ this um this is a step in the right direction for that neighborhood and brenda's neighborhood needs work Well actually the neighborhood I'm talking about is split between
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but also You're on
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Peter Young and the
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do you
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right Mike, is to have the and come in and rehab it and cut those lots up, put houses in there and sell them.
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a big discussion not just during the budget workshop last year but ‸ also uh in the strategic plan you know in terms of the community revitalization. you know At the end of the day, and you've heard me say before, what happens beyond Main Street affects Main Street. That's right. you know And our disadvantaged ‸ underserved areas in essence serve as a glass ceiling for the future advancement and growth of the city. So uh this is an investment and, you know, again, I don't want to create any false expectations that the city is going to be able to, in the next two years, redevelop 22 lots. You know, but it's the idea is you get the property under control and
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to where at least you can make it, you know, because at the end of the day, it has to, the numbers have to work for both the developer and for the city.
And for the buyer.
And well and for the buyer.
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I will say that the, one of the complications as it relates to the buyer, ‸ this will be the last comment I say, is that it
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by, that many people would suggest or suspect, uh the new regulations is you
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or the the sales price or appraised value. Whichever is less. So if you build that 115 and ‸ it appraises 75, the city is cannot even use its down payment assistance to close the gap to sell that to a qualified low-income buyer. So that's the challenge. And
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So, I mean, it's, it is a challenge. So it's just one of
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to overcome. But having the property and the ability to maybe bring somebody in is, I think, a step in the
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That's right. We, we know where we want to go. ‸ all the way. so Right? Right.
And it's going to happen,
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you got me this time. but Go ahead. Yes, sir.
aye Aye. I didn't hear Tyler.
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okay let me i i thought first you're teaching me something new here, uh officer excuse me Officer Furbish. Councilman Furbish, uh the first thing I believe in the future, sir, home ownership. We'd like to change the image of the District
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area there because that area has been, let's be honest with each other, I i
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And my greatest concern right now is providing a quality lifestyle for individuals so that they feel that they're part of the political
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indicates when when children have a permanent domicile, their academic performance and their social skills increase immensely, and they take ownership and pride of their home. And that is the reason why I totally, uh fundamentally support this beyond all shadows of doubt. And I think, I know for a fact, we're moving in the right direction, just like everyone reside at their district. I'm right there, my front door faces that, and my bedroom window, of course, as well. So I think it's a great investment, and we're moving in the right direction, and
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And I still have a dep excuse me, all right our city manager over here talking about 800 square feet. But we're going to go to 1200 so move forward. Here we go.
Okay.
Did
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And be opposed. All right.
but bye. Thank you. Thank you, sir. yep Thank you. It's good to hear your voice, by the ‸ way. Thank you.
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to apply for a Department of Homeland Security. Assistance to Firefighters Grant. For fire prevention, to hire one fire inspector to develop a fire inspection program for existing buildings, and funds to purchase smoke detectors for low income housing, residential housing.
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Second.
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Great
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opposed? Okay. Great job, ‸ Great
job. Great job, Chief.
Okay. We're gonna ‸ move down to reports. Anybody in the advisory board or a committee that would like to speak?
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get going. No? uh Emma, you want to say something about barbecue and blues? Yeah.
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i'll talk to you okay um All right. So
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I know. I try to do that to you on purpose.
uh Two quick items. uh
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we've got all the paving down. uh They closed uh the intersection of Fisk and peach tree for a day or two. They milled it, resurfaced it. uh That's the final asphalt that's on that portion of the road. uh It has to cure for 30 days. And then they'll come and apply the uh diamond in the square asphalt
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it it It's really starting to look nice. so It's very exciting. Check it out. um The next item I'd like to bring you a quick update on is the Harry T. Moore Center. The city has received two grants for that. We applied for a
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match. uh With that, we uh will
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so The roof will be replaced. uh That's good. Architectural drawings were done. uh ‸ We had to get approval since it's a historic building and historic grant. We had to get approval for the type of shingles we're using. We have to get approval for everything. uh ‸ hvac duct cleaning. Remove plumbing from bathrooms and ACs. Get the building ready for the next grant. And the next grant is a special category grant. uh That was 230 000 grant that the city received.
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there. will actually be uh
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the inside walls, removing the floor. The floor has uh moisture damage and basically mold on it. uh
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uh Cleaning underneath the floor. When they took the whole floor out last time, they dropped a lot of wood down there. And you know what wood and dirt equals termites.
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So we'll
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get that done. Flip around do the other side. with the Keeping
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uh The uh small project will be done uh by this June.
a
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we can ‸ get that done within a year.
We're going to the museum phase after that?
uh After we, I mean, we do have an interest of a non-profit um that would like to um kind of take over the role of being just the curator of the um of the museum to kind of, uh but uh it would we what we need to do is essentially after they complete their project with the interior, the the flooring, right is then ‸ relocate Powell to the north end. And then the open-ended side, you know, temper you know it would be temporarily until they have the whole building, right but uh ‸ would be the museum.
Right. Okay. Good. Best proceeding. What's that? that's
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it's a big deal it'll all take place inside so you won't see much from the outside but
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collaborate with uh and communicate with mrs mclaughlin the loris yes that's you're going to have to shift her so that is
she We've been working with her. She's aware she knows the building has to be rehabbed and she's very um Willing to work with us and we we appreciate her flexibility
Okay, because if not man, I'm coming to your house for dinner.
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thanks. We're
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thank you I see
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uh uh we tomorrow night has the cocoa business forum This will be our third uh one. This is a quarterly uh forum We have it's gonna be over the Civic Center uh From 5 30 to 7 and uh the event is sponsored by Papa John's
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what
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business forum. Okay, yes Yeah. So last one, uh we in January, I believe, we had about 20, 25 people show up. So each one is growing. And it's just an opportunity for you know staff and the business community to ‸ kind of uh exchange information, talk. And uh you know we hear their issues and concerns. We'd let them know what's going on ‸ give them a little report. We're also going to have somebody from uh uh
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on some of the things that they're doing. And so it's just a good opportunity for uh just to kind of uh kind of a continuation of what we started with the strategic plan with the meetings we had there and just uh kind of foster that dialogue. So that's tomorrow night.
Okay.
I've been. It's good. Yeah. Yeah.
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report tonight, sir.
Sir, just one item. um I just wanted to give you an update on our summer youth program that we've been planning in human resources. for partnering with Career Source
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And we have a planned presentation on May 10th at the council meeting. But communications are going out to the
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residents young residents
only juniors
and seniors and graduating
seniors that's good yeah
so we're excited about it we put together a nice program and um and we'll be presenting on it next meeting
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give you my condolences on Tom Brady
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the way, they play the Dolphins on the second week, so I'm not
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He might have beat the rap.
That's true. mike He didn't get away with it,
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We can take a high
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and uh we received uh a business ‸ partner award from uh
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uh project, as well as the uh pavilion project. And uh I'll just pass this down for everyone to see.
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Right i'll Rightfully deserve him And the community school, too, as well.
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an award, as well. But
that's good.
Wow. Good deal. Thank you. that's
nice Good deal. Yeah,
very good.
it's in your district, uh Councilwoman uh
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Anything else? That's it. Anything more
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We're uh still waiting. the The county is uh working on securing a vendor for removal. As soon as we hear that, they're uh or they they have a vendor locked in, they're going to let us know when they're going to be in our waters removing those vessels. You
know, you sit up here and you see all this, and even the city side
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it's all slow. It's frustrating. It's frustrating, yeah. And the boat's gonna ‸ just fall apart and go away by the time they ‸ That's what ‸ they want. Yeah, that's what they want. All right. um Well, thank you very much. I guess it's getting closer. All right. um Mr. City Manager?
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just uh or two things, uh just to advise Council. um
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you know We certainly wanted uh ‸ Councilman Furbish to be here for that, so that'll be coming up in a meeting in uh ‸ in May. Good. And then uh the presentation for your consideration and adoption. And then
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item that we would I would add is that
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related to one-on-one meetings in advance of our budget priority workshop to meet with uh our rate and financial consultant to review those items going into the workshop, and then the presentation at the budget party workshop, and we'll be setting those dates. So uh we we kind of met today to kind of look at that calendar, and we kind of got some dates, and we'll the city clerk will be contacting you for your availability. and
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you know for their availability as well. so
Okay.
That's all i have
What's that? oh
then oh yeah. Yeah, there is another. uh the uh If you recall, in this current budget, uh and which is really uh this item was kind of uh the product born out of the strategic plan, if you will, you know in terms of our asset management, uh Public Works, you know through a consultant, did a city-wide uh pavement or roadway analysis and sidewalk analysis, and
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be scheduling a separate workshop because we really believe it merits a workshop in of itself. to Talk about, you know, where we are, you know, the condition as it relates to the structure, you know, the structural conditions of our roadways, and then the uh the uh physical in terms of what is it the uh
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condition and
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We think we can bite off a chunk where there doesn't require a massive reconstruction or ‸ construction of curb and gutters in the current fiscal year, and we want to bring that to you
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where there is. yeah Kind of break it up in phases and have a plan.
yeah That's.
So we're going to schedule that workshop and bring it to you. Okay. That's great.
Mr. City Manager,
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that I just saw in the Florida Today announced. them
What they said Well, did they announce it?
It's in Florida Today.
Okay. Well, apparently uh it's uh in Florida Today. You'll find that uh we are a candidate site. That's ‸ I'm going to say for, uh uh uh this is the most unconventional way the economic development project has occurred. They typically like to be confidential, but they had to do a traffic study and they had to, they applied to the Corps of Engineers related to the wetland and the Brevard Crossing site, or ‸ which is now the port site of which occupying the basically west of the power lines. We've had individual meetings to talk about that. And I guess Florida Today has aware of it. And it is
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‸ we actually, ‸ have a, trying to, ‸ meeting tomorrow, phone conversation tomorrow meeting Friday with them and the port.
How many jobs?
uh Right now it's about 239 jobs, the average wage 42 000 and about a
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600. So uh
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But, you know, it's not the
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I don't think the traffic counts that's what they had they had to do a study. They're working with FDOT. I think there's some improvements that they're going to do in terms of signals and turning lanes, you know, that are necessitated prior to the widening. ‸ And then the widening is probably something that the this state and the county ‸ the city
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the county and the port will probably work towards in the future a full
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much since they're gonna ‸ have the warehouse, ‸ water would they have to consume, sir? He's probably already ‸ Actually,
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probably wouldn't be as much as you think because most of that is not water driven Although 200 employees and I'm assuming that that's multiple shifts it would probably be some nice steady flow, though, for
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it would be ‸ good for everybody, utility as well as
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thank you.
Thank you, uh
Steve, for the update.
John.
That's good news.
It is. I just i would just like to state that, you know, um I think probably the uh the article is premature because no location decision has been made.
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locations in Florida, and there's one in Georgia that's a consideration. And while the site selectors have spent a lot of time with the city and the port, I think there's uh you know, the city's going to do what it can. ‸ to try to, you know, be competitive. And uh so uh it's I think we're we've discussed it individually, uh but
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We're going to be bringing the ‸ first uh there's uh ‸ they're applying for some incentives with the state. there's a lot of There's a lot of moving parts in this. That's some kind of surprise that it got reported. It's unfortunate because
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kill a project if another community gets it. I'm really kind of I'm sure the site selectors aren't exactly happy about it either. yeah It's kind of surprising that
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claim it. it's it You know, if we know project happens,
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You know, I mean, jobs for our employees and our residents and so. Yeah. good
might help us sell those 22 houses.
And more.
‸ okay that's it?
Yes, sir. We're gonna ‸ need a bigger fire station. oh
gosh.
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know, interestingly enough, they actually, because of their insurance, they they do they they have some uh unique, uh was it a 30 000 gallon tank ‸ they fill to have ‸ in addition to the fire lines? You know, and they get it for, it's a risk management issue and they can, yeah, they they get a different, it it's it's unique. it's ‸ well It's more than the sprinkler system.
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So, okay.
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Okay. uh firstly, I'd like to say that, uh I think y'all did a good job with the folks, with the citizens who came in to complain about the music, uh this past weekend. And I just urge that, uh uh we get on top of that because we, ‸ don't need another occurrence or something like that. That's just a ridiculous thing to have happen to us. ‸ and, and we need to find a ‸ way. We need to get that more meters, at least one or two over
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police department, I'd say, because, you know, you can't have every officer running around ‸ one, but they can grab it ‸ run over there and have teeth to shut the thing down if it's too noisy. So I want to urge that we, we jump on that with both feet. uh second thing I have is I concur wholeheartedly with, uh Councilman Blake about the Mrs. Corby, uh situation. It just, I don't know. To me, it, there's something just not right. It just does not feel morally right. And, I think there's something like Mr. Like Mr. Blake said, I think there's something we're overlooking that maybe we could do. So I'd like you everybody ‸ look into that. And, the third and last thing I have for tonight is don't forget to spend your money locally, please.
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Tyler, it's good to hear your voice again, my friend. Can't say enough, brother. Welcome back. Welcome back. um This past week, I had the opportunity to visit the FAMU Gala. The keynote speaker was the National Alumni Association leader, which was Lieutenant Greg Clark. He came and spoke on behalf. uh
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think it is. Next, um ‸ wanted to say
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they make their trek down to Broward County for the regional meet. And I wish our men and ‸ women good luck and uh
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uh Parents, as you know,
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This is the part of ‸ year where
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So I want to make sure that everyone have a good positive night rest, have a healthy but great breakfast in the morning. Also, we had a great time
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meeting there, and I'll just talk briefly. um
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In order for us to make a well-informed decision, we must be educated. So I'm asking all citizens get involved, pick up the phone, come by, visit, talk, reach out to us, and discuss this issue with that three locations. At our last council meeting, um um
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we talked about the new, potentially, fire station number one right there on Dixon Boulevard. Maybe have, if it is located there, strong possibility. And we discussed that maybe a playground equipment could be there because of the kids of that community. Also,
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they do not have any playground equipment there. And I'm just asking to consider that, the
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apartment and also on the back. I'm trying to remember that area. I know for a fact it's Councilman
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uh district.
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Green.
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can look into that just to see, sir, um
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And also, buy local, keep it local,
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Thank you, everyone. God bless America. Very good. this water
uh ‸ Just a few things. oh
uh
i um I just want to say
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of Cities uh dinner, uh Jerry made it a point of bringing around uh what is going to be our new state senator, Dorothy Huckel, to make sure that uh ‸ we all got an opportunity to um to meet her. um Looks to me like she's going to be a lot of fun to work with. She's uh been uh in local government, so she understands what we go through. So hopefully we'll have a good relationship with her. And Jerry already has a really nice working relationship with her. So um this weekend, starting Thursday, I'm headed to Tampa to the Advanced Institute for Elected Municipal Officials. So you guys have a great weekend. I will be out of town.
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on. And um
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for um um being so uh quick to be generous and uh offer his uh help in uh securing the Civic Center for the
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a question for the Fire Chief. Last night, all of our equipment was at the post office, and we had guys running around on the roof, and it was real exciting, and people were stopping all over the road to watch. And then later there was no lights on at the post office anywhere. Anything exciting
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at the post office? Did we lose the mail? uh
No, ma'am.
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that affected about
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residents in that business corridor. And uh I
know
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that complex
area
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they
have generators. So what what happened is they uh had a ‸ partial powder power outage that created a problem for them because they're on three phase of electric, which causes problems when you only have one part of it running, okay which started things smelling, motor smelling, things like that. So they called the fire department.
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‸ Yeah, we were checking everything there to make sure. It was nice to see that ladder up there, though, yeah.
Yep,
they got good uh use last night.
Yeah, look. Anyway, I i stopped to watch. it was It was fun. So that was it for me.
Deputy Mayor.
Yes, uh Steve. Hello, Steve. I'm right here. Yes, sir. Did you make that phone call like I asked you for the uh the lawn people? I
sent ‸ an email and I'm waiting to hear back from him. You
haven't heard back, well
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I'll give him a call tomorrow. I
appreciate it because that phone rings off the hook and, you know, keep our lawn nice and trimmed and everything. And, you know, when you get the lawn that's that high, it makes it look bad on our parts. So tell them what I'm
going
to put up with it and call them maybe time they need it done. and They should do it, you know, honestly and truthfully. Okay? I will call him ‸ Thank you. ‸ Also, Friday night we attended the, uh what was that, ‸ function?
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a good good crowd,
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and that's when the mayor was there. Were you there,
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it was great. The village actually was busy this weekend. Saturday was busy. They had the uh Relay for Life Saturday night. Right. And Sunday, I don't know what they had, but it was still a lot of foot traffic on Saturday and Sunday. So, am i you ‸ doing pretty good, ready to retire. Thank you. That's all I have. Thank you, everyone, and have a great week.
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week. I'll be by phone if anyone wants to get a hold of me. Just call. I'll try to answer the phone. If
i
don't answer, leave a message. I'll be by the pool out of time.
okay
All right.
all
right, Don, thanks. um
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here for the first year. And I guess the last few years, they had it. um They had as many as 1200 people. And they the Chamber of Commerce asked me to tell everybody that
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ticket sales. And then they it distressed their food line. They only had two food lines, and I guess they were very long. So people weren't happy with that, but they'll be ready next year. So it was a fun event. ‸ Pretty good event.
They ran out
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pizza booth. They had one in the front and one in the back. and Yeah.
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But they said they'll be ready for it next year, which is good. Also, um John, or somebody, um could we have Jerry Sansom come in and do a uh uh report on the um
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You know? um I'm sure it's gonna ‸ be interesting. I know he wants to come. So if we could call him and give him the extra time he needs. Is that okay? Okay. And then um also,
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forum. It's being looked at yeah Okay. You guys are looking at it, Matt. Yep.
We've actually, uh the available dates, uh let me just confirm that. We did get uh the evenings that the Civic Center is
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council meeting. Correct.
uh It looks like the 25th, 28th, and 29th are available. and so uh 27th
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oh yeah. the There's the
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on that night, but that can be ‸ Yeah,
we can we can reschedule that. Okay.
It's just a
few hours. and
What it is is full order today and a volunteer group
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to hold a candidates forum for
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Yes, sir. And I guess who gets to give a couple of questions or submit a couple ‸ questions. There'll be softball questions. I mean, it'll make it. You know what
i'm
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You're in charge.
Exactly. So, um no, but that's
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‸ should be a lot of pretty interactive, a little event. All right. um We'll move down to the car show we had. Emma at the car show was great. um it was It was probably the best one I've ever seen, really, here. And it's growing. uh
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about Fiesta. I guess the last thing is I'm encouraged talking to ‸ city manager about uh how we're kind of shifting gears yeah the next few years and how
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my vocabulary, it's just renovating the city and and bringing back vitality throughout the neighborhoods. And um I'm encouraged,
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by the uh the work that we're talking about doing on Fisk and getting that to a, you know, again, you know, we got
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uh Peach Tree is getting ready to get completed with a lot of the amenities, but we'll do Fisk. And I want people to feel like they live, you know, in a out uh in a suburb of their downtown. Okay. And we're going to go down and we're going to look at hopefully finishing
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lot of responsibility out on
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So there you go. You got those huge thoroughfares that need to be. They're
all on the list.
Yeah. And and I just like the fact that it.
then they're big ticket items, sir.
They are. Absolutely
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But it shows the residents, especially the ones that have been here 50 plus years, that we mean business. We were serious about this. And uh this is just the beginning. I mean, this that will probably, like we talked about earlier about District
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over here, uh you know some of it's stigmatized and you know and it's and it's it was blighted.
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because I know that the chief has got all all you know everything's running. And i my goal as mayor, my goal, uh Chief
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is when the thugs or bad folks, white collar uh you
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crime or uh you know when any crime you ‸ think of, when they think of
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of here, all of them, okay? And uh you heard it from me.
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the crap out of everybody
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times uh until they get it, either they go to jail or they leave, and I don't care where they go, um we're going to finish the job. And sometimes it takes somebody like me ‸ be crazy enough to say, do it. um Do it professionally, but get rid of them all. I don't care if our crime rate is this high. Arrest the crap out of these guys. I don't want them to even when they think about
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I want ‸ to go somewhere else, okay? They know they're gonna they're gonna catch hell here, okay? So um let's see. Manager wants to correct me, but keep going. And I know you got the right guys in place. Drive them out of here, okay? And
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I'm trying not to get emotional and get crazy because it you know there's going to be some crime stats coming.
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like we're arresting a lot of people, and we are. And i you know my I do a lot of things in the city. I know a lot of folks. And I can tell you what you're doing, sir, is putting a lot of pressure on the bad guys. And I'm asking you to push the rest of them out because it's just going to make these road projects, every district get better. um There's already good people moving in.
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residentially. um
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So you can see a lot of commercial stuff. So it's going to be
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and I appreciate what you're doing. Keep it going, okay? Thank you. That's it.
Motion adjourned Great job.
That's it. All in favor? ‸ Okay. Any opposed? Let's go. Thank you.
Thank you everyone for coming.
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