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Code Enforcement

Code Enforcement Board Meeting

Date
2025-09-18
Status
Draft minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #77
Built from draft minutes printed in an agenda packet — no AI-written text Briefing final

The City's record

What the City's record shows

Draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2025-10-16, pp. 9–11; approved by the Code Enforcement Board according to the draft minutes of 2025-10-16 (that draft's own approval is not found in the records on file); the motion does not say whether they were amended. The City has not posted the approved minutes. The approving motion, “to approve to the minutes of September 18, 2025”, is in the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2025-11-20 agenda packet (2057_11_20_2025_Code_Board_Agenda_Packet.pdf, packet pp. 10–12).

Built only from this meeting's draft minutes (2032_10_16_2025_Code_Board_Agenda_Packet.pdf, packet pp. 9–11). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Lloyd Roberts, Josue Otero, Sharri Scott, Dik Muller, George Brown
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines; no independent membership list of this board is available to confirm that the roll is complete.)
  • Listed absent: Gloria Weatherspoon, Jody Hatcher, Thomas Zimmerman
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Micheal Mack (Code Enforcement Officer), Jason Brimm (Code Enforcement Officer), Kristen Eick (Board Attorney), Darla Crowl (Recording Secretary), Thomas Wilkinson (Code Enforcement Manager), Charlene Neuterman (Community Services Director)

Adopted actions (4)

  • to approve to the agenda of September 18, 2025 (moved by Muller, seconded by Otero); CARRIED — the draft minutes, packet pp. 9–11
  • to approve to the minutes of August 21, 2025 (moved by Otero, seconded by Muller); CARRIED — the draft minutes, packet pp. 9–11
  • to amend Staff’s recommendations and find the Property Owner in violation and be given until March 18, 2026 (6 months) and a fine of fifty dollars ($50.00) per day (moved by Otero, seconded by Brown); CARRIED — the draft minutes, packet pp. 9–11
  • to amend Staff’s recommendation and find the Owner in Compliance and no fine (moved by Otero, seconded by Brown); CARRIED — the draft minutes, packet pp. 9–11

Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)

  • $50.00 — Code Enforcement: in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): decided in an adopted motion. “amend Staff’s recommendations and find the Property Owner in violation and be given until March 18, 2026 (6 months) and a fine of fifty dollars ($50.00) per day” (motion result: CARRIED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2025-10-16 agenda packet (2032_10_16_2025_Co; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2025-10-16, pp. 9–11; approved by the Code Enforcement Board according to the draft minutes of 2025-10-16 (that draft's own approval is not found in the records on file); the motion does not say whether they were amended)

Draft minutes, as printed in a later agenda packet

Draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2025-10-16, pp. 9–11; approved by the Code Enforcement Board according to the draft minutes of 2025-10-16 (that draft's own approval is not found in the records on file); the motion does not say whether they were amended. The City has not posted the approved minutes.

Source: 2032_10_16_2025_Code_Board_Agenda_Packet.pdf, the agenda packet of the 2025-10-16 meeting, packet pp. 9–11; lines 266–435 of the City's text of that file. The packet's own page footers are left out below.

Read the draft minutes 
Meeting Minutes 
September 18, 2025 
 
 
A meeting of the Code Enforcement Board of the City of Cocoa was held on Thursday, September 18, 
2025, in the Council Chambers at 65 Stone Street, Cocoa, as publicly noticed. 
 
OPENING MATTERS: 
 
Chairman Roberts called the meeting to order at 6:03 P.M. The Board Secretary called the roll. 
 
MEMBERS PRESENT: 
 
Lloyd Roberts                                 Chairman  
Josue Otero Vice Chairman 
Sharri Scott Board Member  
Dik Muller Board Member 
George Brown Jr. Board Member 
   
MEMBERS ABSENT: 
 
Gloria Weatherspoon Board Member 
Jody Hatcher 1rst Alternate - excused 
Thomas Zimmerman 2nd Alternate  
  
OTHERS PRESENT: 
 
Micheal Mack Code Enforcement Officer 
Jason Brimm Code Enforcement Officer 
Kristen Eick Board Attorney  
Darla Crowl Recording Secretary  
Thomas Wilkinson Code Enforcement Manager 
 Charlene Neuterman Community Services Director 
    
    
The Board Secretary swore in all Staff members giving testimony. 
 
APPROVAL OF AGENDA AND MINUTES: 
1. Approval of Agenda: September 18, 2025 
Chairman Roberts noted changes to the agenda (Items complied, tabled and withdrawn) 
Motion by Mr. Muller, seconded by Vice Chair Otero, to approve to the agenda of September 18, 2025.  
Vote on the motion carried unanimously.  
 
2. Approval of Meeting Minutes: August 21, 2025. 
 
Motion by Vice Chair Otero, seconded by Mr. Muller, to approve to the minutes of August 21, 2025.  Vote 
on the motion carried unanimously.  
 
3.   Submit to the record of all documents & notices for all cases on the Agenda.  
 
 
CASES: 
1.  CE-25-374 – 1512 Cambridge Dr.      


Code Enforcement Board 
Agenda 
September 18, 2025  
Page 2 
 
Code Enforcement Officer Jason Brimm provided an overview of the Case history and presented exhibits 
for the Board’s review. Code Enforcement Officer Brimm testified that the Property Owner was in violation 
of City Code Appendix A - Zoning. Article XV - Administration and Enforcement; Building Permits 
and Certificates of Occupancy. Sec 2 – Building Permits and Applications of the City Code.   
 
Code Enforcement Officer Brimm requested that the Board find the Property Owner in violation and be 
given until September 15, 2025 (30 days) to come into compliance or impose a fine of up to two hundred 
and fifty dollars ($250.00) City Code Appendix A - Zoning. Article XV - Administration and 
Enforcement; Building Permits and Certificates of Occupancy. Sec 2 – Building Permits and 
Applications per day until found in compliance.   
 
Property representative was sworn in: Wendy Newsome, 1512 Cambridge Dr. 
 
Officer Brimm recommended to the board they give the property owner representative 6 months (March 
18, 2026) because they were going through probate.  Chairman Roberts questioned the fence if new or 
replaced.  Officer Brimm stated he thought it was new.  Ms. Newsome explained why she put the fence 
up without a permit.  Chairman Roberts asked Ms. Newsome if she understood what was needed to 
come into compliance.  Ms. Scott asked Ms. Newsome if she had hired a licensed contractor to install the 
fence. She explained that the property owner before she passed away had contracted all the work.  
Attorney Eick asked Ms. Newsome if she was the personal representative of the estate and replied yes.   
If Ms. Newsome is the personal representative, then she would have the authority to take care of the 
property and pull permits.  More discussion amongst the Board members and staff. 
 
Motion by Vice Chair Otero, seconded by Mr. Brown, to amend Staff’s recommendations and find the 
Property Owner in violation and be given until March 18, 2026 (6 months) and a fine of fifty dollars 
($50.00) per day.  Vote on the motion carried unanimously. 
 
2.  CE-25-269 – 2816 Slippery Rock Dr 
 
Complied. 
 
3.  CE-24-442 – 5555 Highway 524 
 
Tabled 
 
4.  CE-24-878 – 401 Churchill Dr.  
 
Complied.  
 
NON-COMPLIANCE: 
1. CE-25-91 – 503 Delannoy Ave.   
Code Enforcement Officer Jason Brimm provided an overview of the Case history and presented exhibits 
for the Board’s review. Officer Brimm testified that the Property Owner is in violation of Appendix A 
Zoning, Article XI Schedule of District Regulations, Sec. 13 District and Intent - CBD, Central 
Business District (D) (2) Prohibited Uses and Structures and Appendix A Zoning, Article XV 
Administration and Enforcement, Sec. 2 Building Permits and Applications (A) of the City of Cocoa 
Code. Officer Brimm stated a Notice of Hearing was sent on September 5, 2025, sent certified and posted 
on the property and property owner remains in violation.   
 
Property owner was sworn in: Dr. Ricardo Henriques, 1285 Tuckaway Dr. Rockledge 
 


Code Enforcement Board 
Agenda 
September 18, 2025  
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Attorney Eick asked about the RV, was it corrected in a timely manner.  Officer Brimm stated yes which 
would be no fine for that violation. Chairman Roberts explained to Dr. Henriques that this was a 
noncompliance hearing, and he was either in compliance or not.  Dr. Henriques spoke about the 
violations on the property and thought he was able to have the RV since it was his property. He explained 
that the RV and the electrical have been removed from the property.  He also did not understand that the 
post required a permit.  Dr. Henriques said he had already pulled permits for where the car cover was.  
Manager Wilkinson confirmed that there were only three permits pulled which were two fence and one for 
an hvac system.  There are no permits for a carport, post, electrical or that structure in the system.   
Attorney Eick questioned Officer Brimm about violation of the building permit which was for the electrical 
panel, circuitry and light.  She questioned the violation and did it pertain to the post. Officer Brimm 
explained the violation was for the unpermitted work.  Attorney Eick stated that the posts were not 
covered by the violation and that the property owner should be found in compliance.  Manager Wilkinson 
disagreed with Attorney Eick and stated that Article XV commercial district and building permits should 
cover all.  More discussion amongst the Board members, staff and Attorney Eick. 
 
Motion by Vice Chair Otero seconded by Mr. Brown, to amend Staff’s recommendation and find the 
Owner in Compliance and no fine.  Vote on the motion carried unanimously.   
 
LIEN REDUCTIONS 
None 
 
NEW BUSINESS: 
 
None 
 
OTHER BUSINESS: 
 
None 
 
ABATEMENT APPEALS:   
 
None 
 
Manager Announcements:  
 
None 
 
NEXT MEETING: 
 
The next regular meeting of the Code Enforcement Board will be held on October 16, 2025. 
 
ADJOURNMENT: 
 
There being no further business the meeting adjourned at 6:52 PM. 
 
Approved on this ______ day of ___________________, 2025. 
 
______________________________ 
Lloyd Roberts, Chairman 
 
______________________________ 
Darla Crowl, Recording Secretary

Agenda (the City's wording)

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I. Opening Matters

  • 1. Call to Order
  • 2. Invocation
  • 3. Pledge of Allegiance
  • 4. Roll Call

II. Approval of Agenda and Minutes

  • 1. Agenda: Regular Meeting of September 18, 2025.
  • 2. Minutes: Regular Meeting of August 21, 2025.
  • 3. Submittal of Document Packet

III. Cases

  • 1. CE25-374 / 1512 Cambridge Dr., Cocoa, FL / Betty Adams property owner of 1512 Cambridge Dr., Cocoa, FL, in violation of the following City Code. Appendix A Zoning, Article XV Administration and Enforcement, Building Permits and Certificates of Occupancy, Sec. 2 – Building Permits and Applications. — 00:04:52
  • 2. CE25-269 / 2816 Slippery Rock Dr., Cocoa, FL / Canter, Karen Ashe Trustee property owner of 2816 Slippery Rock Dr., Cocoa, FL, in violation of the following City Codes. Chapter 6 Buildings, Construction, and Property Regulations, Art. III Property Maintenance Standards, Sec. 6-902 Discarding junk, inoperable or abandoned motor vehicles. (b) (1) Chapter 6 Buildings, Construction, and Property Regulations, Art. III Property Maintenance Standards, Sec. 6-901 Accumulation.
  • 3. CE 24-442 / 5555 Highway 524 Cocoa FL 32926/ AAO Stores LLC. property owner of 5555 Highway 524, in violation of the following City Codes. Appendix A Zoning, App. A Art. XIII Sec. 1 (B) Site Plan Approval Required, Except for single family homes or a single duplex unit, any development, change of use, any use approved as a special exception, mobile home parks, and mobile home cooperatives shall require a site plan approval prior to the issuance of any building permit. Chapter 6, Buildings, Construction, and Property Regulations, Article III Property Maintenance Standards, Division III, Nuisances Section 6-902 (b) Storing, parking or leaving abandoned property/inoperable motor vehicles on …
  • 4. CE24-878 / 401 Churchill Dr., Cocoa, FL/ Robinson Amy Kelly Avant, property owner of 401 Churchill Dr., in violation of the following City Codes. Chapter 6, Buildings, Construction, and Property Regulations, Article Ill Property Maintenance Standards, Division III Nuisances, Section 6-900 (b) (4) A-C Maintenance of any structure or grounds. Chapter 6, Buildings, Construction, and Property Regulations, Art. Ill Property Maintenance Standards, Division III Nuisances, Sec. 6-902 (b) Storing, parking or leaving abandoned property/inoperable motor vehicles on private property prohibited.

IV. Non-Compliance

  • 1. CE-25-91 / 503 Delannoy Ave. Cocoa FL / 503 Delannoy Holdings LLC. The Code Enforcement Board held a public hearing on August 21, 2025, at which time the Board found the owner, 503 Delannoy Holdings LLC, in violation of city code(s). The Code Enforcement Board provided the owner sufficient time of September 17, 2025, to correct the following violation(s). City Code Appendix A - Zoning, Article XI - Schedule of District Regulations, Sec. 13, District and Intent - CBD, Central Business District (D) (2) Prohibited Uses and Structures. Appendix A - Zoning, Article XV - District and intent 4C-W, Wholesale, Commercial District, Sec. 2 - Building Permits and Applications (A)

V. Lien Reductions

VI. New Business

VII. Other Business

VIII. Abatement Appeals

IX. Manager Announcements

X. Next Meeting Date: The next regular meeting of the Code Enforcement Board will be held on October 16, 2025 .

XI. Adjournment

Transcript Partial transcript

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All right. We're going to call this meeting to order. We'll start with our invocation. And I pledge if
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stand, ‸ please. Lord, thank you for continuing to allow us to gratify the city of Cocoa. Just continue to gather some blessings for the city of Cocoa's image. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. I pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of
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America, to the republic, for which it stands, one nation, under God,
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We have roll call.
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Mr. Roberts. ‸ Mr. Otero.
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Present.
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Mr. Brown.
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Present.
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Ms. Scott. Present. Thomas Zimmerman. Mr. Mueller.
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Here.
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Ms. Weatherspoon. And Jody Hatcher.
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Excused. ‸ We have the swearing in of our officers.
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You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
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All right. As far as the agenda for tonight, I have some amendments, and our manager has some amendments also.
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Number 3, CE 24-442 is tabled. Number 4, CE 24-878 has complied.
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Yes, Mr. Chair, I'd like to notify the board.
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‸ under noncompliance in our first case, CE 25-91. The second code is ‸ Appendix A, Zoning, Article 15. On your agenda, it says the district intent
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That needs to be changed to administration enforcement section 2, building permits, ‸ applications A.
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Anyone have anything, any amendments? Okay, with that, I'll take a motion to approve.
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I'll make a motion to approve.
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Second. Have a motion on the floor with a second.
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No, ma'am. I apologize. Yes, it is. Yes. Okay, well, ‸ we're not even at that point yet. We just had a change in wording. Yes, sir. So,
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was that Mr. Mueller and then Mr. Otero? Yes.
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All in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Those opposed? Motion passed unanimously. All right. So, for the meeting from August 21st, do we have any amendments? Any changes? With that, I'll take a motion to approve.
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Motion to approve.
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All in favor, say aye. Aye. Those opposed? Motion passed unanimously. We'll have our
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Mr. Chair,
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would like to submit the PowerPoint presentations and a packet of the documents for each case into the record.
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All right. Before we start, let's ensure that we
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our books to get all this stuff
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And let's make sure we speak into the mic. Even though we sit back, make sure we speak into the mic so she's not having to put on two sets of earbuds to hear when she's trying to do her recordings. All right. Well, that case number one, CE 25-374.
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Good evening. As you said, this
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be case number 25-374. Respondents, Betty Adams, deceased.
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The violation property owner did allow for the following violation, building and permits
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article. 15.
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highlighted where specifically it pertains to it. Describing no work basically
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be done without a permit being approved and applied for. An aerial view of the property taken from the property appraiser ‸ site.
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Let me see. This
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is photo taken July 28th, 12 o'clock.
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It was reported to us that the fence had been installed without a permit. Another aerial shot from two different times. On the bottom right, you'll see is 1-10-2024. ‸ On the upper left, it's from 1-12-2025. This is from the property appraiser. This was also added. It's the same violation. It's for unpermitted work. The roof was done and there was no permit pulled for it. And they happened to take the picture at the exact time when it was being installed.
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And on the right, the most up-to-date deed. Left
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be the tax rolls. Everything is paid up-to-date. Right is the notice violation that was sent. My vision ain't the best. ‸ Looks like 28 July. On the left is the affidavit of posting when it was originally posted for the notice violation. The middle is the green ‸ card receipt from it was actually returned. It was not picked up by the property owner. That signature is, I believe, someone from the police department who signed. And on the far right is the notice of hearing for this evening's hearing. On the left is the notice of hearing
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was posted at the property September 5th about 2pm. The middle is the affidavit of posting where I posted at City Hall and it was also mailed as well. On the right is the green card receipt for the notice of hearing that was mailed out. Case summary. July 30th is when the initial complaint came in and
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was under the impression was the property owner at the time. He mentioned that the property was going through probate. At that time there was no documentation that he had. Fast forward to August 28th I ended up assuming responsibility of the case.
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I took updated photos, attempted to knock at the residence for several minutes, left my business card inside the door. 29th I sent an amended notice out. ‸ The fifth, as you saw on the ‸ picture, I posted a notice hearing of the property mailed and also posted to the hall. The 18th today,
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went by the property, left a business card with a friend of the tentative owner who said he knew her, said he would give her the card because I asked him to please have her give me a call. It was determined at that point I went through
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through Brevard Court and saw that there is probate ongoing regarding the property.
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that shows that the probate is actively going. The recommendation that we have, that I have, is that the code board provide the tentative property owner six months to come into compliance. This is due to ongoing active probate pertaining to the property.
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And there is a representative here regarding the property. I'm available for questions.
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a previous fence. They replaced the fence.
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I don't believe it was replaced. I ‸ believe it was an entirely new fence.
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It wasn't a fence on ‸ the
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old property appraiser, yes. But because of the amount of fence that was replaced, it would still require a permit due to the size.
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Someone's here for the property.
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‸ Yeah, you can come up now.
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Hold on. You need to be sworn in first, please.
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Just leave it.
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Just hold it.
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swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So help God. Please state your name and address for the record.
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Thank you.
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All right. What can you tell us,
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that's my fault.
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didn't know that. First the guy put it up, he put it up backwards, and then I had it rearranged. So as far as the roof ascends, that was
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Betty was still alive, so I didn't know what she had done, ‸ what she didn't do, because the guy was
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No, that was the previous officer.
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So when the notices were posted, did you try to respond?
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came by and ‸ said okay,
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anything, but the person left the card in. So then when I got his card the day, I called immediately and then I was going to show up today because that was in
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Okay. Ma'am, is that fence turned the right way now?
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sir.
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Yes,
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sir.
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is. Mr. Brown, make sure you're speaking into the mic, please.
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I'm sorry.
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Yes, sir.
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Thank you very much.
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So do you ‸ understand what they're ‸ suggesting, ‸ what they're asking to have this? Well, you need to ensure that you get with them to know exactly the steps you need to take because it looks like you need to get a permit and
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you six months because roofing is a
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total
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different animal than just the fence.
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had unpermitted work done, so when you get it permitted, they're still going to have to check the roof.
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Okay. That's fine. I would like that.
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Yes, ma'am.
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Did you have a licensed company put the fence in for you?
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Oh, she contracted everybody. Okay. Okay. All right. And you do understand that you have to go to the permitting department to get the
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Okay. Okay.
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If there's nothing else, I'll take a motion.
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You said that the house is going through probate?
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Yes, that's why I recommended the six months.
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So, theoretically, it could be extended again. So, that's why I'm trying to just...
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Mr. Chair,
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may
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I ask a question?
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Okay. I mean, for the board, a personal representative is given the authority to, you know, maintain and secure the property as part of their statutory duties.
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the property because of her title as a personal representative. She's been appointed as that by the court.
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‸ So, before you leave today, please get their card and stay in touch so they can help you in this process to get everything you need without fail.
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two, three,
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four. All right? Because we've already done that. So, now is the process. we've got to go backwards and start from scratch. Okay? Yes,
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sir.
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All right. Take a moment. Yes, they'll give you everything you need and tell you exactly where you need to go.
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Thank you.
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All right. Take a motion.
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All right. Okay, Mr. Chairman, now you ‸ go ahead and set a motion here. based on the evidence and testimony presented, which is incorporated into the order, I move to find respondent in this case.
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Are we going to move it six months?
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appendix A zoning for building permits. And that the respondent should correct the violation later than. So you're recommending six months is going to be
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efficient? Because I was, I wasn't aware until this evening that she would be able to obtain a permit. So I was going based on it might go longer.
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six months to get two permits.
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So give her up to March.
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18th, 2026.
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respondent does not comply by this date after considering the factors in section 162.09 floor statues, a fine in the amount of
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It would be in the same amount as we normally do recommendations of up to $250, but that would be at the board's discretion for the amount.
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Any amount of $250 per day will be imposed for each day the violation continues past the aforesaid date.
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this order.
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I'd second it with an amendment to the amount. If you could make it like $50 a day.
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I approve.
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have a motion on the floor with a second. All in favor say aye. Aye.
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motion passed unanimously. So, ma'am, you have six months. The objective is to get it taken care of as soon as possible so it doesn't linger. But these gentlemen will help you step by step. Okay? Thank you for being here.
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I apologize for the
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good evening.
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You have a good evening. Good luck. No, I'll contact you. Okay. I'll contact you. Yes. Thank you. All right. So, we're at
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noncompliance.
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I'll be presenting, as you said, case 25-91. Yep. Property owner failed to comply with the board's order of compliance of August 20th, 2025.
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I'm sorry. I don't know the Roman numerals very well. Schedule of district regulations, Section 13, prohibited uses and structures. Number two, building permits and applications.
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keeping with the character of the central business district.
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You can see the post where the makeshift carport was for the ‸ RV and the truck on the right.
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Regarding the second violation, it's the entire description, but it boils down to any work that is done without a permit. This is a similar picture from same date, August 21st. It just shows a somewhat closer photo of the one of the posts, the RV, and the tarps. Case summary. This is a case we saw previously last month. The update from then would be
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September 5th, a notice of hearing was posted at the property office, mailed, and posted at City Hall. On the 16th, I spoke with the property owner's representative via phone. Later the same day, she came to the office and provided a document, which I'll show you momentarily, requesting a continuation for the property owner. She also stated that he would be present at the hearing this evening. She informed me the electrical box had been moved and the RV was as well. Stated the owner was still working on the poles being removed, which were holding the cover. Property owner had inquired and believed the poles were previously permitted.
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a permit regarding it. and the 18th inspected it today and it's still at this point in violation. This is three photos from today regarding the post and the tarps.
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Initially
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thought they were metal, but they're actually wood, and the tarps are still up. The electrical has been removed, the RV has been moved, and the truck. ‸ But the structure itself is still, would be requiring a permit.
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It's similar to the previous document requesting a continuance and states that the property owner would be here this evening. And it was stamped that I received it and uploaded to the case file. My recommendation, staff recommendations, is that the code will find the respondent, property owner, in noncompliance with the code board's previous order that was dated August 20, 2025, and a fine be imposed until brought into compliance.
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on the fine?
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That would be my fault.
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would be the same discretion of the board,
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per day.
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No, because ‸ we had to set a fine. What was it?
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Okay.
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Yeah, ‸ that's my fault for not making it in the staff recommendation.
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But, I'm sorry, for the board, I believe it was $250 per violation. Correct? And per day. Per day. ‸ So, may I ask a clarification question? Yes, please. The violation for, excuse, sorry, Appendix A, Article 11, Section 13, the corrective action and the notice of violation was removing the RV from the property. Yes. So, which was, which that was done, correct?
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Yes.
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So, the board, are you asking the board to find impose any fines for that one or
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The violation that's still in violation would be regarding the post and the tarp for the unpermitted work.
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Is there a fence involved here, too?
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No, there's not.
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Looking at that picture, I couldn't ‸ tell.
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No, it's essentially a parking lot in between buildings.
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The, which photo?
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Oh, it's just the background. That's another building.
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Yeah, that's the another building on the, Oh. Yeah.
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Okay, I'm sorry. It's a double-decker bus.
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Sir, did you want to step up? Yes, I do, sir. Yes, sir. You ‸ need to be sworn in.
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Please state your name and address for the record.
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That's my office. Would you like my home address? Yes,
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please.
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Yes. Yes.
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Thank you.
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All right, sir. Just so you understand, this is not a hearing, this is not a hearing to say if we can give you more time, because we've already come up on time. So this is a hearing just pretty much giving you an opportunity to tell us what you want to tell us, and either you're in compliance or
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Okay? All right.
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the RV, I was under the assumption that my property had to put whatever I wanted there.
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way, shape, or form to try to break any laws of the city of Cocoa. The, as you see, or as the board sees here, that as soon as we got everything, all the paperwork and whatnot, ‸ let me backtrack a minute, please, Mr. Chairman. We've had, I believe, three different inspectors that we have been dealing with, and then, essentially, that kind of got lost. So it was not, I assure you, ‸ would never disrespect the board here and basically come here and be giving you some type of a story.
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The electric system has been also pulled as soon as we were able to get everybody there. And my question with regards to the posts, the posts are, I had no idea that, I thought that a structure, like a building structure, was something that you couldn't do without a permit. I thought a post which holds up a, what we call a shade sale, the shade sale was strictly for coverage of my automobile for prevention of sun and whatnot, because you know how hot it gets here.
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‸ and like I said, as soon as we've been trying to get everything on record and I believe this is Mr. Brim is like the third inspector that we've dealt with.
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they've kind of been passing things back and forth. so that's kind of where we were at. But I assure you, I would like to take the time to apologize to this hearing because ‸ once again,
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is right there and I would never in any way, shape or form try or intend to defraud anyone or try to break any laws here. So I'm just here to express this that I believe this has gotten out of control for really no reason.
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trust me, there's no intention. And secondly, Mr. Chairman, the place where the shade sale
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That area,
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believe, it's been like two different structures that were permitted. They were like the covers for vehicles to pull under and it was, it were permitted.
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find the permits for those And that's the only reason that I requested a continuance so that we could get to the bottom of it. ‸ I would never, ever, ever say I'm not going to pull the post out or in any way, shape or form try to do any litigation with the city. That's insane. I would pull the post out tomorrow if I thought or if you thought that they were essentially in violation of any law. So, once again, my apologies but this, I assure you, this is not intentional. This should have never gotten this far. and hopefully if it would have been the same inspector that it wouldn't have gotten this far. but immediately, as soon as I was notified of something we started the ball rolling.
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and I'm sure there's a record of all that.
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‸ So,
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it's not that I have kind of boiled the city off and said I'm not going to do anything. I have taken this serious from the day one and I've gotten rid of the RV at my expense. I've gotten rid of the electric. Well, I had no idea
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I didn't know that I'm basically dealing with professionals and I thought okay, these people are pulling all the necessary permits.
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Yes, sir. Well,
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think it would be just a matter of, if that's how you feel as far as you thought it was permitted, have to take ‸ time to research it to find out. But I would think they've already done that legwork to say, hey, it was never permitted. Mr. Chairman.
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Chair, we
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just confirmed there's only three permits on there.
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was two for ‸ fence and one for HVAC system.
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carport or the posts for a driveway or covering the back or rear of the property or any previous electrical permits for that structure.
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Okay. Once again, I've purchased these things from professionals that supposedly got the permits. I had no idea that I had to follow these people when I contract ‸ someone to do something in my office, just like someone comes to see me in the office. They trust that my professional judgment is going to be, ‸ to cover them. and I had no idea that these people had not done that. Once again,
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was, again, I can't emphasize this enough, Mr. Chairman.
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was not with any intention to pull a fast one over on the city
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that. I don't need to do that, sir.
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can, you know, basically thank God I've been blessed with the capability of being able to afford a permit. That's not the thing, sir. So it's not a,
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Yes, sir. We have no thought about that. It's just a matter of, you know, black and white right now, you know.
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The notice of violation states that the violation for the building permit section is for the electrical panel, circuitry, camera, and light. Is there anywhere in the case file or notice of violation that says that violation related to the posts themselves?
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I would have to go through the previous notes. As he mentioned, there was three officers, but there was actually two. It was just myself and Officer Simpson.
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But that has been removed, correct?
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The electrical, yes. Nothing else. and the canopy carport in the same sense does not go with the theme of the central business district.
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Give us one moment. So what I read, she's saying that, okay,
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‸ the violation is for any unpermitted work.
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is for what you describe as the violation, which is the electrical panel, circuitry, camera, and light.
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the gentleman in compliance. that doesn't preclude, you know, future action by the code officers if the post isn't removed in the future or something like that, but it doesn't appear to me that it was covered in the notice of violation and that there was no notice essentially given of what the violation, that ‸ the violation included the posts. You see what I'm saying? Unless,
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the, in other notices that the posts were covered. I'm not seeing that.
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Mr. Wilkinson.
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Give me one second, Mr. Chair. Yes, sir. I would disagree that appendix A zoning or to article 15 for administration enforcement for ‸ commercial district for a building permits and applications. If electrical needed a permit, a structure would need a permit. I mean, it's permits required. We basically cited the property in order to require the property to obtain the permits for the structure on the property, the electrical on the property, and he just removed the electrical, but the structure is still there.
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question, the ‸ post, would that ‸ be considered structure
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anything that goes
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vertical, ‸ requires a ‸ permit.
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The corrective action that's on the notice of violation is to contact the building department and discuss the necessary steps to apply for and obtain a permit for the electrical work done.
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Okay. Well, I'll leave it up to the discretion of the board.
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case, and it might have been a clerical error where Officer Brim and I ‸ didn't see it.
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But I would state that, you know, it is a required permit. They've had, we've had contact with the property owner's representative not once, but twice, told them what they needed to do to comply when they came in the office, which was remove the electrical or apply permits for electrical and for the carport.
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not permitted. He knew about this from the beginning and hesitated on getting it removed and him stating that he was more than compliant, He did not show up at the first hearing.
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from the beginning. Yes, the character error as far as the wording goes, but him speaking to me through his representative multiple times shows that he understood that the structure was not permitted to be there. And the electrical couldn't be there without the structure there in the first place. There would be nowhere to put it.
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own post.
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But she would have.
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So he took down a post and left the other four along with the electrical box, which the post didn't have a permit.
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the post?
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So going back to the legal aspect from what the attorney is saying, the post wasn't specifically mentioned in the verbiage that was given out. So if the post weren't specifically mentioned in
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verbiage that was given out,
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we be legally bound to hold them to the
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so again, my recommendation would be, um, I, I think it's concerning that it was not included in the notice of violation because we do have to provide, uh, adequate notice of what the violation is and what corrective action needs to be taken. And the corrective action that was given was to remove the electrical. Again, that, this wouldn't preclude the, uh, ‸ officers from bringing another case if, you know, if the gentleman refuses to obtain a permit for the, um, posts or remove them in the future. But I would be concerned about imposing a fine for failing to come into compliance when the original notice of violation did not say anything ‸ about those posts.
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So, essentially kind of dealing with semantics and being specific.
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So I can make a recommendation.
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Go ahead, sir.
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This be tabled. I'll send him an amended notice. He will be given 10 days and the structure can be addressed.
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I, I don't, I'm not sure how that resolves the issue because what we're trying to determine right now is whether or not he's come into compliance on the second violation and whether he's done that and within the time ordered.
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Mr. Chair. Yes, sir. It'd be the same code if we,
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for the permits required. We opened up a new case. It would be the exact same code. The only difference is we'd have the correction ‸ to tell him to remove the carport from the property. It's still required. It's the same section, the same chapter. The only thing that was left off is on the original notice of violation was that the carport needed to be removed or permitted.
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So
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it's ‸ apples and oranges.
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‸ Well, but still, the way the attorney is saying it, that means he would be in compliance right now because of the wording. So now that means, okay, we have to go and say, okay, he's in compliance. Now if you give him a notice tomorrow for the same thing and specifically state that, now we have something. You understand?
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And that would be a new case number.
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that'd
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be a new case,
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new violation, you know, notice
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a
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violation.
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So everybody good with that? Sounds clear. So at this moment.
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Okay.
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Give me one more. Hold on. I may not want to speak too fast.
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I'd like to make a motion. Mr. Chair. Yes, sir.
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I move to find a respondent did comply with the Code Enforcement Board previous order by the date specified in that order and no fine will be imposed.
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Second.
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I have a motion on the floor with the second. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Those opposed? Motion passes. So you've been found that you're in compliance, but again, it still goes to city council. So.
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May I ask a question?
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Yes, sir.
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parking lot and I've done it. And let me go on record
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You're welcome to use it again.
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anything that's vertical. I understand that now. I had no idea and,
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of
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course, ignorance is not an excuse
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for the
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law.
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But my
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question
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is, I need some guidance. Is
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it,
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is,
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well, I know,
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but
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he's kind of antagonistic with me right now. He's not a happy camper and I assure you it's not,
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I want you to understand that's not
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there
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that's not his demeanor.
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do with it. So the, everything else is now on you. Because now, you can't blame ignorance of anything. So now you're a very intelligent gentleman. So now you have to ‸ do the research, say, Hey, gentlemen, what do I need to do? Because now they're going to, They have to give you exactly what you need to do. You understand?
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I was just simply going to say, because you're free and clear from the code now, code enforcement, as of this hour to right now, but come eight o'clock tomorrow morning, they might put another violation on you. What you need to do is put one foot forward and go to the permitting department and find out exactly what you need to do to have your post permitted. Are your post in concrete? Are your post stable? Are they hurricane prepared? Blah, blah, blah. You need to go to permitting and you need to get it figured out. Okay.
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first thing before you do anything, they come see you. How about you respond and communicate with them and work with them because this is the thing.
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start, we wouldn't even be here now because. Hold on. Stop. And I'm not saying that, but as the property owner, who has the most to, to give in this moment, who has the most to lose in this moment?
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So you have a clear understanding because someone else brings us the information. It's not always the exact same. They don't always understand that information the same. So you should get that information firsthand. ‸ So now there's no
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break in
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communication.
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I can meet with you along with the manager.
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Yes, sir. We can meet with you Monday.
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I
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mean, the board already put you in compliance. and we can.
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Yes, sir. Absolutely.
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No, sir.
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No, sir. That's fine. We'll meet with you Monday and discuss what needs to be done.
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Excellent. Well, I'm very
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grateful.
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appreciate
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Thank you. Thank
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you.
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Bye-bye.
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All right. Please make sure you take out your stuff out of your books. Everybody, please.
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cart.
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Give me this little idiot.
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All right. So our next meeting.
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October 16th.
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All right, if nobody has anything, meeting adjourned.
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