Okay, I'm gonna ‸ go ahead and call the order. Our regular City Council meeting, the date is July the 8th, 2020. Time is 6 p.m., or 6.15 p.m., location ‸ 65 Stone Street, Cocoa City Council Chambers. We're
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invocation, we
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and then we have, followed by a roll call. If I could please have everyone stand.
Thank you. Thank you.
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Mayor Williams.
Present.
Deputy Mayor Goins. Here.
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Here.
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Here. Council Member Warner. Here.
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Motion to approve.
Second.
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All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? It passes unanimously. We'll move on to item number two, our minutes from the regular meeting of June 10, 2020.
Okay.
And the budget FY21 fiscal
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Take a motion to approve the minutes of
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There are really clarifications to what's there under a list that was in response to the events of the justice events and Black Lives Matter ‸ we were discussing, the things that we could do. So on page nine, there was a list of five items. So one should read, organize a community of faith leaders group meeting to discuss issues.
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evening since many churches have services on Wednesday nights. And three, ‸ request another presentation on the consent decree. Second sentence should read,
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that many of our newer citizens may not know.
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Second from Councilwoman ‸ Warner. All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? It passes unanimously. Okay.
We have finished two of those items already.
Yeah. Okay.
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board right?
Yes. Some time ago and I think that
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Oh, I'm sorry. This is Lisa Soto, Executive Director of the Marine Resources Council.
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Hi.
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I'm really delighted to be here. I'm glad just to be out of the house for a change. Okay. Let me, um, let me see if this is going to start.
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We're a nonprofit that has been dedicated to protecting the Indian River Lagoon for 30 years. We're celebrating our 30th birthday this year.
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the lagoon. And thank you for your commitment to an important project that we've been working on for a long time called the Indian River Lagoon Report Card.
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lagoon improving? Is it not improving? I know, are all of our efforts paying off? And I'm happy to say that they are. So I'm kind of giving you the punchline. But I'm going to go through the report card and give you the scores. So what you're going to be looking at tonight are scores just like you'd see in school, grades on your tests and so on. So if you see a number that looks like a 30, that's a really bad score.
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So just like you're looking at a report card.
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delay a long time. Okay, I need to like switch my slides and wait. Has been protecting and restoring the lagoon for 30 years using science, education, and restoration.
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Is it downloaded to the laptop? No, it's not even in
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‸ Thank you.
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Okay, I've got to start over. Good job. Thank you for that. So where was I? So MRC has been protecting
and restoring the lagoon since about
30 years ago. We do it through three major program areas, science, education, and restoration. And our mantra really is getting science into the decision-making arena. So this report card calls down the science into a really easy to understand format.
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it? We've
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we've collected over 20 years now of water quality and habitat monitoring data that have been collected by our state agencies. So these are the best available data that we have. And we are translating them through graphics and a really easy metric into a report that anybody can understand. And
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lagoon to answer that key question, you know, are things getting better or worse? So we got the idea from Chesapeake Bay that's been at this longer than we have. And this is an example of their scores from ‸ 1985 to 2020 and a line that they've drawn showing that even though things go up and down, which is what we expect, they are slowly improving the Chesapeake Bay. So we thought we need to do the same thing here.
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We need to do this every year and we have to see if things are getting better or are things actually getting worse. We use five indicators. And these are the only, really, the five things that our state agencies are collecting regularly. Four of them are associated with water quality. They are chlorophyll A, which is pretty much a measure of how much algae is in the water column. And we know these algae blooms are very problematic. So chlorophyll A is an important indicator. And then we've got two nutrients, nitrogen and phosphorus. These are things that are, you know, very prevalent in the environment. They're very prevalent in people's lawns. They're very prevalent in wastewater and so on. So these are nutrients that contribute to algae blooms. And then turbidity is a measurement of how clear the water is. So when algae blooms happen, of course, the water gets very dark. And then seagrass is the only habitat measurement that's being collected regularly. And seagrass suffers when the water gets unclear. So these are all linked. You can see how these indicators are all linked together. The four water quality indicators, those four blue circles, are combined into what we call a water quality score or water quality index. So when you see any of these scores that are associated with water quality, it's a combination of all of those four things.
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‸ monitors the lagoon and enforces regulations associated with ten different areas of the lagoon.
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very diverse in many ways, culturally as well as ecologically. So it's divided into ten regions.
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we are.
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County line. So we're located here. And these are the water quality grades. So you're looking at a lot of numbers, but just remember, what you're looking at are just like the scores you'd see on your report card. And this is the column, if you're most interested regionally, this is the one you should focus your eyes on. And that what we've added since last year is 2017. So there's a couple points about that. One is why are we looking at data from three years ago now? And the other one is you can see in 2017 that all the water quality data, all the grades have improved from 16 to 17, which is good. But quite frankly, 16 was probably one of the worst years we've ever had. That was the year of the major fish kill. And that was, you know, a huge catastrophic event. We have since then, we brought this report card up to Tallahassee for the legislative session this year.
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the
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And I said, because we can't get the data from the agencies any sooner. And they said, you will now. And now we have through 2019 data. So we're excited that we finally got our hands on data. That's a little bit newer and we're going to start working on those immediately. So those grades. So these grades, I know we have this all on our website. I know you might want to look at this longer, but I'm going to move on ‸ for the brevity of sake of brevity. These grades are also graphed on maps. So here you're looking at
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north part of the lagoon. It includes the Mosquito Lagoon, the North IRL, ‸ the Banana River. And it's easy to see from looking at 16 to 17, the improvement. The areas are the average for that entire region.
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see on the map is a sampling location. So you can kind of see where it got better specifically, like where it got much, much better is where a red dot goes from red to green or, ‸ you know, goes from orange to yellow. Things are improving. So that's good news overall. You don't see very many green dots in the north IRL. Here's the same situation looking at the south part of the system, starting from about mid Brevard County, the Melbourne Causeway specifically, all the way down to the Palm Beach County line. You know, you see a similar situation. Things improved dramatically from 16 to 17, even down in the south end. They did not get the discharges as much volume as they've had in the past coming out of Lake Okeechobee. That discharge would affect primarily the St. Lucie Estuary, which is kind of that little V area right at the Martin County, St. Lucie County line. That's where you would see the ‸ discharge coming in from Lake Okeechobee that ‸ has a tremendous impact on the water quality down there. Very bad impact. Seagrass grade. So this is, we're looking at seagrasses.
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It's where the fish have their babies and where they hide and
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It's like the main vegetation that all of the fish and the mullet and things like that eat and then the bigger fish eat them and so on. It's a very important indicator. And we did not see a huge improvement in our seagrass coverage. In fact, we've seen things get worse, including here in the North Indian River Lagoon. So we've still got problems in the system that are affecting seagrass regrowth.
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is covering the bottom right now. People think it's seagrass. It's not. It's going to, it's about to die. Well, it's dying right now and it's going to release a bunch of nutrients when it dies.
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So we're kind of like, oh, no, I hope it doesn't fuel an algae bloom. The temperature is coming up.
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and
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So we've got a system that's precariously balanced. When we talk about flipping this lagoon, what we're talking about is going from a seagrass system to a
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Macroalgae is not going to provide the same food as seagrass does. It does provide cover. So it is a place for fish to hide. So it's good for that, but not much else. So these are our seagrass grades. You can pretty easily see that things did not improve much. They did improve in the Mosquito Lagoon, even though there
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many, many more manatees up there. Some people blame the manatees for eating all the seagrass.
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all swam up to the Mosquito Lagoon. And our
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to make sure that it was going to be able to be sustained with the increased manatee herbivory, the manatee population up there eating it all. And it still got better. So
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still improved in the Mosquito Lagoon, even with the additional manatee population migrating up there for a food source. You know, people probably see them eating off of their lawns these days because there's really nothing for them to eat in the system anymore.
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What's interesting about the south end is that even though the water quality down there is better, much better than here, their seagrasses are worse. So their seagrasses down there, you
know,
the water quality and the seagrass are not related to each other at the south end of the lagoon. Even though they have clear water, they don't have any seagrass either. So what is the problem with the seagrass? Okay, so on our website, all of this information is out there. All of those different indicators have a separate tab. So if you're interested just in nitrogen,
you
can go to the nitrogen tab and open up that tab and look at the nitrogen scores and how nitrogen has changed over time. Here's an example of the story map. So the story map lets you drill into each point more specifically. You can slide this bar back and forth.
I
think it's going to do it for me if I click again. Oh, there it goes.
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So when you slide the bar back and forth, you can see, you know, how things have changed from one year to the next. The dots with the X's are dots that the district is no longer monitoring.
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monitoring points blinking on and off. As the state is defunding their monitoring programs, fewer data are being collected.
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in our state are collapsing, they're not looking. It's like this looks good, you know, so they stop looking and then there's no problem when you stop looking at things. All right. So this year we added tributaries. So we know that everything sheds, the watershed, stormwater, super important component in our system, adding the pollution. This is a picture of the St. Lucie Estuary discharge. This is the Lake O discharge. It's very clear that this is a ‸ river that's polluting, in this case, the Atlantic Ocean.
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But all the tributaries that we have in the lagoon are doing the same thing. So we connected the landscape to the lagoon through these tributaries. So these are the north end of the lagoons, major tributaries. And you can see which ones are polluting and which ones are not. So Turnbull Creek, Big Flounder are hotter, meaning they're hotter color red. They're poorer water quality. They're contributing to the problems in the north IRL. Horse Creek is cleaner, so it's actually contributing clean water to the Indian River Lagoon.
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So it just provides you an easy way to see, you know, how are these, which tributaries are contributing the worst pollution, and how do we affect a change in that water quality, because that's where it's all coming from.
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of our roads down these canals into these tributaries into the lagoon. So stormwater, stormwater, stormwater. Okay, so here's the same information mapped and compared with each other. Turnbull Creek is incredibly interesting. I've actually been in touch with their soil water conservation district manager up there, because there's nothing up there. So we're like, what is polluting Turnbull Creek so bad? Not only do they have a nitrogen phosphorus problem, but they have a mercury problem. Mercury is a human health hazard.
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in the water quality.
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So these kinds of adding the tributaries lets us find these aha moments of, wow, why is that one so polluted? And, you know, what can we do specifically in that watershed?
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body of the Sebastian River and the south prong differ. So why is the north prong more polluted than the south prong? Questions like that. All right. So is the lagoons health improving? So here's our line graph that we've done similar to what Chesapeake Bay did. Starting in 1996,
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can see the blue line is the water quality score. It kind of goes up and down, which is what we expected. The trend line is the dotted line that we drew through that. And you can see that it really hasn't changed. Even the water quality goes up and down dramatically. It's pretty stable. The water quality is changing. But, you know, if you go over time, it hasn't significantly changed over time.
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the blue line, which was what we would expect the seagrass to go up and down with water quality. But then it continues to go down. So our seagrass is continuing to decline even though our water quality is not. And that's pretty much the punchline of the presentation. I did want to alert everybody. We have our Lagoon Castaway Camp going on. We have social distancing with these young people. This is from last year. They're wearing masks. We're only taking up to 12. We've got them each at a separate table in the Lagoon House. It's at least a place you can park your kids in the morning for a couple hours.
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And they get to have a good time.
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they're, I think, having as much fun as the kids are. They're like, yay, I can be away from my kid for three hours. I think it's been a little rough on the parents. So that's all I got. Thank you so much for believing in this project from the very beginning. For your support. For your ongoing support. If you have any questions, I'll be glad to answer them. And you know, I'm a resource that you always have available to you.
Thank you, man. Appreciate that.
My pleasure. Make sure you look at our new waterfront on your way out.
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Let's finish the water. Good idea. Good idea. I'll go walk around the village now. Yeah. Now that I'm free up in the house.
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All right. Thank you ‸ all. Thanks for what
you're doing.
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Thank you.
Thank you for coming. Okay. We're going to move on to delegations. And first up,
we
have Ms. Bernice Cox.
Good
evening, council and staff and everyone. Good
evening.
My name is Bernice Cox. I
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I'm here once again about the property ‸ behind the residence on Aurora Street. The owner of this property has owned this property since 2005. I've been coming to council since 2000 on the same property prior to him getting ownership. I would like to ask council to put this on the general discussion. And I have another issue in my neighborhood.
In
1966, we had signs of Pine Grove Park
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And about 10 years ago, a gentleman came to ‸ public works and had
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Aurora. So when I called public works about it two years ago, they told
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And I said I was just asking if it could be done. So that's another issue I want to be put on the agenda. And I have, I can hardly see it. Oh, by the way, on
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And that's all they did. And the other day I was coming home and all the code enforcement lights were running around in front of my house. So I thought it was to look at the property.
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vacant land. And two weeks later, code enforcement was back out there. And now this morning when I got up, they signed up with the owner's name and everything on it. So that took maybe three feet. And this has taken 20 years. Okay.
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Okay.
Also,
about a month ago we had a, we had, I'm coming. We had a recognition ceremony at our church. It was a drive by for our youth to get good grades.
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So we usually have more
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But anyway, I'd like to thank Chief Cantaloupe and
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And the police escort, escorted them all around with the lights going.
It
was very nice. And I just want to thank them.
Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate it. Thank
you, ma'am.
Next up we have Reverend J.B. Dennis.
Good evening, everyone.
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up there a copy of this petition except the city manager? Please.
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I'm here tonight to advocate for investigative powers and subpoena power for the Citizen Police Advisory Board. A copy has been said to everybody from the correct city manager and mayor. This petition needs to be placed on the earliest agenda for discussion. This petition is to be considered
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records and data is completely useless. The roadblock placed on our advisory board prohibits the board from being an infected civilian oversight.
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An advisory board should have the authority to investigate complaints filed by the members of the public. It should be part of an independent advisory. The voters in this city do not want a weak,
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advisory board that winds up agreeing with the police in almost all instances.
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So be it resolved that this petition is placed on
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agenda for discussion.
Thank you, sir. And next up we have Mr. and Mrs. Lanza. Did you still want to come up and speak now? Okay. And I have some pictures here as well. ‸ And we'll make sure that Carrie,
you
get some copies of these. But if you all want to take a look at these, you can pass them on down. ‸ My name is
Mrs. Lanza and
I
‸ reside at 46.
‸ I'm
here today.
I
have a few things. First of all is my neighbor, Mr. Purvis.
He
lives at 46.
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Since he's moved in, he has been bringing in his hoarder, garbage picker, whatever you want to call it. The last time I came to one of the meetings to let you guys know, you asked me to give the lady the pictures to give him to pull the placement. It's been about a year maybe. Nothing has been done. He keeps bringing stuff and bringing stuff and
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The garbage is full
of garbage, really. So I decided not to bring pictures and give them to the mayor so he can pass them to you guys and ask you if it's okay to live this way. So another thing I wanted to talk about was my roof. Our roof was done by the city. And my roof looks like it's worse than the one that I had. It's all
wiped
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up with a hurricane. It's going to go.
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Better business.
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They
wrote back to me.
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not answering them. Finally, they got in touch with them. They said that they weren't getting in touch with us. They still haven't gotten in touch with us. So my roof is getting worse and worse. I don't know what to do.
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Definitely, we have pictures. I should have developed them so you could see what my roof looks like. How they left it.
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And we have pictures. And
we
have pictures. And I
spoke about the other ones that I prefer to be.
Yeah, ‸ and
we
got the flooding pictures as well, which
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So feel free to bring whatever he wants. And nobody's going to tell him.
It's
in the car. You know?
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They should have done something a long time ago.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you, ma'am. And then next up, we got Mr. Alec Greenwood.
Alec Greenwood, [address] Just a quick note. I'd like to announce that the Historic Cocoa Village Commercial Property Group is going to be having a meeting at the Civic Center, July the 29th at 10 o'clock Wednesday morning. I'm going to probably need input from Carrie in reference to whether I need to specify that
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be social distancing and also sanitizer and masks available. That's one thing I need to know if I need to put it on the notice. If not, I'll have it at the door. The subject, the main subject that's going to be during that meeting is going to be trying to change the city's reputation from being a place, if you want to
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We're also going to ‸ pay attention to the 10 items that we had discussed at previous meetings. And I'm happy to say that we've got and achieved a lot of those most important issues. The other items that we're going to be talking about is I'm happy to say that there's a several of the commercial property group members have a proposal to offer to the city where they could be a private-public partnership to solve some of the parking problems. That's also going to be discussed. The last thing is about ordinances that were created that I don't think the council at the time was given enough information about the ordinances that were created because actually they've done the opposite.
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as they've always thought they had the freedom of doing. And they were a little surprised about that. And that goes against the original intent that the downtown redevelopment blighted area that was created in 1981. So all the specifics will be discussed at that time. And the other points will be brought during the meeting for open discussion at the end of it. And we're also making arrangements to allow council members, city manager, acting city manager to be there as well, or staff if they're available. There will also be some guest speakers there as well.
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Thank you. Thank
you, sir. Okay. That's a nice card we have on a delegation. We're going to move on to our reports and advisory.
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advisory boards or committee members that have any reports? Okay.
Public works. Just two quick items. As far as our annual paving and resurfacing, we should wrap that up probably by the end of the month. And then Pineda will be complete sometime in mid-August as well. We're hoping to get that completely done before school starts officially. And then the relief channel has
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be completed in mid-August as well. Okay.
Thank you, sir.
Finance has no report. Thank
you, ma'am.
Chief,
no report, sir.
Thank you, sir.
Chief. Good evening. Yes, sir. Just to give you a brief update on where we're at currently with COVID-19, there are 223,783 confirmed cases in the state of Florida.
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County has 2,812 cases.
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I say there are only 37 cases. There are 37 cases within the city limits. So that's kind of where we stand at with the numbers. I want to give you just a brief update on our partnership with Brevard Health Alliance. At our last meeting, I reported out that they would be setting up the drive-thru testing this Friday, and
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They will not be setting up another mobile site in the bird
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But what I do want to do is give you an update.
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special meeting some of
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the mobile site. We started that on May 22nd of 2020
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was one of the ones that we worked with in cooperation to get the site up and get it moving. And they just did a phenomenal job in moving forward with the testing
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So, one of the important things I'd like to point out about
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numbers that I give you each Council meeting is these numbers are on a sliding scale. And I think sometimes people, when they watch our Council meetings and I report out on where we're at with COVID-19, kind of get confused by that. One of the most important things to understand is that when these numbers are reported out, that's not the numbers that they are getting from the test sites for the day before. So, these are numbers that are being dumped to the Department of Health by
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And they could have been 7 days, 8 days, 14 days before they got the results. But that's what they are currently when they receive those results. So, that scale slides so much. Same thing with our numbers on where we're at for positives with
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That data that we get from the Department of Health, remember, people come on, people go off of that, depending on where they're at within that 14-day cycle of quarantine. So, that number two will continuously slide. Scale will slide. So, a lot of people have asked me, you
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a bit the other day when she called.
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got these numbers, the next council meeting, it's lower or it could be higher. If you look at where
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Remember, looking at those 11,000, more state sites were set up.
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from a, I say Tampa Bay, the city of Tampa just went from a ‸ site run by the city of Tampa that was open by appointment only, open only a few days a week, to last week they went to full speed ahead. It's a state site. They're running seven days a week. They're doing,
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through that site. So, again, that's why we saw the spike in numbers. If
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were shut down. What did we see? A dramatic decrease in numbers. There were no tests going on across the state. So, you know, the
data is
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good. I think that when you look at that, understanding how they get that data and how that data comes into it plays a lot into where we're going. The biggest thing for us is we look at our hospital capacity. I know that's been a big question. We have not seen a spike in that here recently, even though we have seen a spike in our number of cases. And I think that's one of the biggest concerns is when we start to see a spike in the number of admissions and people in hospital beds. That's where we'll start seeing more concern. But certainly always remember the states continuously opening more sites as the staffing becomes available. And we're starting to see those numbers continually climb. We'll continue to encourage people to follow the CDC recommended guidelines, social distancing, washing hands, all those things. That's going to be what helps us make that change, not only as a nation, but also as a community and a state as a whole. So with that being said, I'm sorry to give you a quick brief overview of that, but that's kind of where we're at. Thank you, sir. Thank you.
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from 86 last week to 37 this week, given everyone else had exponential growth.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
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Correct. Does that
make sense to you when we're surrounded by numbers that are going down?
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And depending on when the reporting is coming in, when the reporting is going out, how many people are going off
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how many people are coming off. If you had a large influx of people being tested in one day,
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let's just say you had 30 people all that got tested on the same day, all 30 came down positive. All 30 of those will fall off that list at the exact same time within that 14-day window.
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to hit a moving target with it.
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percentage of positives has gone up. Absolutely. ‸ The numbers changing is not completely explained by more testing. So,
yeah, we actually had in the last week, if you looked at the data, and I actually pulled some of the data from Tampa Bay's region to kind of look at it. But when we started this, we tried to stay below the 12% positivity rate. And if you really look at our spike, we were in the 14, 15, in some places even the 16% positivity rate out of all those being tested. ‸ Now you see a dramatic drop
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So, and some of that goes along with it'll be
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just came off of. If you remember, we had a large spike during Memorial Day.
Right.
Everybody was out. There was activities going on. Once those test results came in, as they fluctuated in, we started seeing an uptick in the number of positive patients. And
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be seeing
that probably the end of this week or next week.
Maybe end of this week and into next week. Yes, ma'am. Most of the labs are giving a turnaround ‸ time of anywhere between 7 and 11 days for test results. That's a long time.
Okay. Well, thank you for that thorough report. I still get people contacting me every day in regard to this mask thing. Just so everybody knows. If I'm the only one, tell me. Maybe they're just calling me. But people that I don't hear from otherwise. So there is a lot of concern, you know, about that and about their exposure when they go into public places.
Thank you.
Mr. Walsh. No
report.
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No
report.
Ms. Healy.
No report.
Mr. City Attorney.
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I have a couple of items. The first one, I just want to make everyone aware, we did receive an e-comment for this meeting under the delegations portion. But we ‸ handled the e-comments just as we do any other speaker that would speak before council. They provide their name and address. This comment didn't have that. So if there is the individual that submitted the comment out there, if they could resubmit that with their name and address, we can bring that into the record.
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and address with that. We
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They currently meet weekly
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pandemic, and they've not been able to meet out there. And they've run into some challenges with their current meeting location and would like to meet temporarily in the Cocoa Civic Center, at least as of right now
till
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maybe August. So they're requesting use of maybe one of the smaller rooms in that facility. That is a bringing this to city council because it is a departure from our policy. We typically would require a rental of that facility. This is a little bit more of a unique circumstance, I believe, since ‸ they're typically in Eastern Florida State College, and they're just seeking a temporary location to conduct their meetings. Do you
need a motion? Yeah,
if we could get a release.
I'd like a motion to allow them to meet at the Civic Center.
We have a motion and a second with a comment. Are they going to be signing the same release forms that anyone else would sign with reference that this COVID-19 and so forth? That is
correct, yeah.
Okay, just wanted to make sure of that.
Yep.
We
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All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? It passes unanimously. Okay.
And then the final item that I have is just related to, I'm sure most noticed, the waterfront amenities
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But there will be a grand opening July 18th in the open space there by the Harrison Street where it goes into Lee Winter Park right on that corner. There will be a ribbon cutting at 2 p.m. But from 12 p.m. to 3 p.m. There will be a, the
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with a band
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And all of that in conjunction with the Florida Inland Navigation District.
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grant program. They will also be on site for the ribbon cutting and
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So it's kind of a unique opportunity for the city in that kind of everything came together at once. So I just want to make the public aware of that. It's Saturday, July 18th from noon to 3 p.m. with the ribbon cutting at 2 p.m. there at the corner of Harrison and River Edge.
Okay. Thank you, sir. Is that it? Okay. Councilwoman Warner.
No report, Mr. Mayor.
I
just would like to offer up a suggestion. When we're planning outdoor events during the summer, we might want to look at the time of day because we're coming up on the time where we have rain every single afternoon, starting about 2 o'clock. So we might want to schedule those outdoor mornings.
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Yeah, I just wanted to say, for the record, and this is in
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that I respect the administrators of that site.
I
know they are smart people. Main Street is a great organization that we have a lot of potential to work with. I respect people in Main Street. They are smart people, are well-spoken, are eloquent writers. And their engagement is positive for this city.
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And my door is open to any one of those folks whenever they want.
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But I would like to have folks respect my constituents, my neighbors, and be conscious of
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An accusation was made that I have a secret agenda. I do have an agenda. It's a platform. And it's no secret.
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I've identified those goals because this is a lot of work. And if I'm going to be here, I'm going to try to accomplish
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I don't have any hidden agenda.
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that I'm, you know, or any development. I don't have a business I'm trying to build. Just trying to do
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And I hope that you'll continue to be engaged. I know you will. But consider that the things that we do, the things that we've accomplished, we do so as a
council.
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without at least the support of two other council members, and hopefully more than that. So it's important that we keep the relations and show respect to each other. And that's all I have.
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I just have a few things. Sunday, I attended, along with Chief Cantaloupe, at the Sky Zone with over 300 teenagers, which was a very different experience. I think I've seen Chief Cantaloupe dancing a little bit, too, him and his wife.
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But it was, I thank him and Coco PD for making that investment in our children. Even though it was a one-night situation, I believe that one night stopped a lot of silly things from happening in our community.
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Brevard County. So things like that that may cost us a little money is helping us in the long run for the future. So either we invest now or we pay ‸ later on. So I appreciate you for making that commitment. Also
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people that are continuing feeding in our community. Thank you for that as well because it's desperately needed.
There's
a lot of people that's hurting in our community. So I'd like to thank ‸ any organization within Coco that are doing this for our community.
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I know we faced a lot of scrutiny on that particular vote for several months. But just hearing children
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it made all that arguing, bickering, and
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it made it worthwhile. So I appreciate the council for ‸ making that vote, even though we didn't agree on it ‸ as a whole. But I believe that we had a positive product. So I appreciate
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for that. And that's all I ‸ really had.
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‸ And the closer we get to November, it's going to get nasty. So I just want to make sure that our ‸ citizens understand that we're going to be here to work regardless of what.
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work with everybody. So we understand that.
We
all have, we love
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Helping us will be more productive than trying to tear us apart. So I appreciate it. That's all.
Thank you, sir. And I just got a couple things.
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out there,
it'd
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be nice to sit down with individuals that was a part of that story
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There was a community event where individuals were a part of serving our community during the COVID-19. And there's organizations that are not mentioned in this report. And I think that if you don't have all the facts, sit down with people that have the facts so we can get that information out there. So we can make sure we don't leave anyone out.
Another thing is,
I know this is election season. There's a lot of garbage out there. But I'm just going to forge forward like everyone else. We've got a job to do. And we can't concentrate on the garbage that's out there. So that's what I'm going to do. And I hope that others will do the same. We've
got
to move on now to our consent agenda. We've
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Second from Deputy Mayor Goins. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? It passes unanimously. Move on to public hearing. Our first item up is to pass a second reading.
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It's a final and second reading of an
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amending appendix A zoning of the city code, providing for the location of
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in the city, providing for the repeal of prior inconsistent ordinances and resolutions, incorporation into the code, severability, and an effective date. This is also a public hearing item.
Thank you, sir. At this time, I'm going to close it to the Council and open it up to the public for any public comment. If there's any. I'm going to need for you to fill out a card, too, before you leave, if you don't mind, just so we can have your information.
Yeah. Good evening. Good
evening.
My name is Samuel Claiborne.
I
live here in Cocoa.
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But from my perspective as a citizen of Cocoa, the City Council, you have been doing a tremendous job. I like everything that's going on and how we're moving forward, even with all the youth violence and everything that's going on. It seems like people may say that we're divided, but in this community and in this city, it seems like we're coming closer together and building on something positive. And I just want to thank you all, especially the chief and everyone that's a part of this forward movement. Thank you.
Thank you, sir. Okay. At this time, we're going to close it to the public and reopen it to the Council. What are the wishes of the Council? We
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Second from Councilwoman Warner. All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? It passes unanimously. Okay, we're going to move on to item
number two. The second public hearing item is ordinance number 06-2020, an ordinance of the City
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zoning of the city code to amend permitted locations for self-service storage facilities and further amending regulations related to this use, providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions, incorporation into the code, severability, and an effective date. This is also a public hearing item.
Thank you, sir. Anything you want to add
to it?
I just wanted to mention to Council at the last meeting on
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vehicle. So in speaking with the applicant, staff is recommending that Council also amend the ordinance to include cars and trucks ‸ within the outside storage area, but limit it to a number of five.
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is not very many. We've got just on the south side of the building, ‸ 16 parking spots right along the building itself.
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nothing. ‸ It just makes more sense
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But with that, ‸ by the way, I will tell you, I mean this sincerely, I've watched this ‸ commission several times, and
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I'm a city attorney,
and I'm a city attorney as
well, and I think you all do a great job. So, and I know it's tough right now.
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I've been to a lot of ‸ commissions and councils, and it's much tougher in other places.
So,
fine job. Thank
you, sir.
Thank
you. Appreciate it.
Yeah, you go ahead.
Okay, this time I'm going to open up to public for any public comments.
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as the problem? If we go from 5 to 10, what does that do?
Staff would support 10 as well, based on ‸ where he's located and how many units ‸ or how many spaces that he has.
A motion to approve
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instead of 5.
We get
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All in favor, signify by saying
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Opposed? That passes unanimously.
Thank
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much. You're welcome, sir. Item number three.
All right, item three. This is ‸ the third
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providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions, incorporation into the Code, severability and an effective date. This is again a public hearing item. Is my time up? Yes sir. Okay.
Comments from anyone up here? No, I got it.
No,
but I still try to get an opportunity to comment before. But yeah. But this time I'm going to call it to the council and hold ‸ up to the public.
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At
this time I'm going to call it to the public.
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What is the wishes of the council? Motion
to approve.
We got a motion from councilwoman
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by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? It passes unanimously. Okay, we're going to move on to the city business.
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You know what? Actually, I have city business twice on here. I didn't even notice that. But anyway. It should be council business. Yeah.
Thank you, Mr. ‸ Mayor. This is an informational item for city council discussion related to the addition of a city council agenda review meeting. You can find information within this agenda item related to some local data and then some data within the state as far as those other municipalities that conduct these types of meetings. As well as there's a list within the item of considerations for city council related to the addition of an agenda review meeting. And with that, just the information's in the agenda item and
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Yeah. I had, of course, this is the one that I keep bringing up. It comes from that place that I think you mentioned as well. When we were sitting on the other side of the dais and we were wondering what were they thinking when they voted on that. It also comes from a certain frustration that we don't have more time to discuss things and follow them and be informed by that discussion with each other. Instead,
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So a desire for us all to hear the same information and for that to be more public so that when we do get into public discussion, it's more informed as well.
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after having experienced several, what was it, a six hour meeting a couple weeks ago. We talked about one way to perhaps kind of try this out while not burdening staff would be to plan a regularly scheduled workshop once a month. We're pretty much doing that now anyway. But it would give us additional time during those months when we don't have a specific item to discuss to be able to bring things forward, to be able to ask questions on the agenda, to be informed by each other's perspectives and questions. And hopefully to
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Again, I have no intention of every staff person coming to an agenda review meeting and coming to a council meeting. In fact, I don't even understand why we have all the staff meetings here.
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staff here for every council meeting unless they're presenting an item, it seems like that somewhat burden someone may already have full schedule.
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per month, that that could be used for special issues, as pretty much as we've been doing. But that it would also give us the opportunity from time to time just to have that discussion before the actual meeting.
And
as a way to play with this, as a way to see if this gives us just a little more transparency, a little more time for actually legislating, developing ideas. ‸ And so I'd like to make a motion to schedule regularly schedule one workshop per month.
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Again, it would not require all the staff, only those that have, you know, a specific item that they would be speaking to.
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so we want to have some discussion here. ‸ Yes, so
usually you have the second though, don't you, to discuss?
Yeah, but ‸ I have some questions I
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to ask before I did anything.
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I have questions, I go over and if he doesn't have an answer, he'll call Nancy or he'll call the chief or he'll call something to get an answer for me. And I don't think that we need to have any more meetings to put more work on the city first office, number one, because they have to type all these minutes up. And it's sad enough to get meetings for planning boards, post boards, this board, that board, you know. It's just that they can only work so much and do so much at a time.
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and you can go in there and you can ask them questions and get answers one on one. We don't have to bring it up and have a meeting. That's fine.
Thank you, sir.
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So the ‸ workshop
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be in place of the agenda review meeting. It's only one time, so it won't be really ‸ an agenda review meeting.
Well, it could be an agenda review meeting.
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We weren't doing budget that month.
Well, I know for me, like I've said before,
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and when I see a council just blow through agendas, I'm automatically going crazy. Like, what are they doing? Right? Because I just, are they just rubber stamping this or because there's really no discussion. If
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on it, but that's my only thing. ‸ I'm going to have to argue.
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I'm going to argue whatever point I have in the agenda review meeting and I'm going to do it again in the council meeting just so that ‸ the people need to hear that argument. Okay. That's my only thing.
That's fine because
I mean the point to some degree would be that those that were really interested in a particular issue would have heard that discussion and questions from all of the council previously so that when they come to the council meeting it would actually
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them a little more expedient in that
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And of course, ‸ yeah,
I was just going to add that I know we've had some items that was considered hot items and we know they're going to be controversial.
So,
I honestly don't think that and I mean I like the review deal but I think in our situation and then what's been happening I don't see a change in anything.
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they're going to argue there and they're going to come back to the council meeting and argue because they want to get their point across. And that's the only thing I don't want to I mean I just I don't want to waste my time arguing here and then coming back here when we could just have it heard and be done with it you know in a sense but I mean that's
what
I was looking at.
And
usually you would only have public comment on the consent agenda. You wouldn't have public comment which would
be
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Are you talking,
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You're talking about the certain items or?
No, I'm talking this this is the way it's done in other places would be that you basically rather than each of us meeting individually that we would all be in one place ask the same questions be informed by the others in questions. That discussion takes place no decisions made and then the next day or two days later whenever the meeting is the public would bring forward their comments or they would probably contact you in between and you would have the vote at the actual council meeting.
You're talking about the council and the staff and strictly and you just.
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But it's like every other workshop. I mean the minutes you don't have detailed minutes for the
workshops.
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So will the public be able to act the questions and talk in there as well or?
Usually it's only on
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consent agenda and then but then they would be more prepared to speak at the council.
What meetings like that now?
There are several,
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there aren't and I don't have to. I don't have to. ‸ I can. We can actually do things that nobody else in Brevard County does.
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Well, they do it in
Orlando. They do it in larger cities for sure. And of course, school boards most commonly do it. And it's just.
Okay, hold on a minute now. Councilwoman Warner.
Yeah.
I. I. If there's an agenda item that. It's just been my experience. If there's an agenda item that's important to the public that's on our agenda. And I usually get a phone call or an email or something prior to the meeting asking me what I think about the item. You know how I feel about it or
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When I go through my agenda.
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Sometimes when I don't have a question about anything on the agenda because the staff does a really good job of providing the information that I need to make a ‸ decision.
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the city manager ‸ department head over an agenda item that lasted more than 15 or 20 minutes. So. I personally don't feel the need for it with new members of the council coming on in the fall. There definitely may be a ‸ need for it, but you know. I think between the hours that our staff works and the fact that not everybody sitting up here, you know. Is free to meet whenever they want to some people have jobs ‸ and some people even have families and babies that need caring for. So I think being cognizant of that. I don't really see any reason to have an agenda review meeting.
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But I.
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at all. So I don't see scheduling a regular workshop is absolutely necessary. But that's just my opinion. I'll be out of here soon and new people can make new decisions.
We. Can we.
Table
this.
I'm
like. They're looking for. ‸ Okay.
Yep. Let's table it.
‸ You want. ‸ Make a motion to.
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I
don't think they have to make
a
motion. Nobody gave it a second. No. Okay. Unless. I'll make a motion to
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All in favor signify by saying aye.
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Opposed.
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Uh. Mr. City manager.
Yes. Mr. Mayor. Just a quick follow-up. When would you like staff to bring that item back. Related to the agenda review.
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November
‸ Anyway.
‸ We can come back to the next meeting. That's fine. That's alright ‸ Okay. Everyone. Okay, we'll bring it back.
this item is to approve an interlocal agreement with Brevard County
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to replenish general fund balance
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Smith Center project number CP1504 and these funds are being reimbursed to the city by Brevard County and deposited back into general fund balance you may recall staff had ‸ previously come to City Council related to some requested site improvements that Brevard County Parks and Recreation brought to us in regards to the swimming pool. We did that in order to continue to move the project forward. We brought money out of general fund reserves to to cover those costs, while at the same time completing the negotiation of a interlocal agreement with Brevard County which you have here before
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saying aye aye Opposed? Passage unanimously. Okay. Item number two, system finance director,
authorized interim
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city manager, execute a multi-year contract, addendum between the City of
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already upper credit card settlement and utility bill print and mail in online present date present we
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second from
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and we have discussed this with Laura so we'll hear all ends of it but just a quick algebra
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a credit card that ‸ was 1440 well extrapolated from that the
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the average cost per credit card payment is $1.57 but we charge each of those people
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approximately half a million. My question was, I find it really annoying if not even for the money for the profit that is going to this other company that I guess we've created so that they can you know, they take care of that.
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go to pay your bill, you can't get any questions answered about your bill. I don't know if you've ever tried this but I tested it and all they do is take your money and charge you $2.99 for that You have a question about your bill,
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which
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we switch to this system and that we outsource this you know for a lot of different efficiencies and you know basically that credit card charges we see those everywhere we go right I'm sure everybody's just as annoyed by them as I am because you know that in fact, the business, there's actually less involved in the transaction, but you're being charged by the bank for this. and that's what we're trying to take care of ‸ here right well here's my issue so I know we need to sign this contract because I guess because it's right in front of us it covers a lot of different things this is just one small piece of it but I really feel for a half a million dollars that we should look into whatever investments we need to make in our own system so that we could provide that convenience to the customer.
Now,
we're not going to pick up the bill for that credit card bill. that's not what I'm suggesting but I'm suggesting that we at least use that profit margin to invest back into the system so that we have the capacity to provide a customer convenience
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and
have questions answered at the same time did
anybody do that?
yeah
yeah
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did you want to?
I mean it's a half a million dollars okay well I just don't think yeah I
do know that that I'm not
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Well, buy your own figures.
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no
the first the credit card companies charge a percent of every charge. right
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it's more like the math quick off the top of my head,
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So it varies depending on the dollar amount of the charge. It
was based on the fees
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exactly And so if you, um
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But regardless, either way, we're gonna ‸ look into the options if
the
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Council decided to bring it back they wanted to take that back that responsibility and put it back on the city of Cocoa That's gonna ‸ take a little
legwork
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to go through and do some analysis. we're not PCI compliant
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I'm not certain we want to bring that back in ‸ house until we have a new software system in place so there's things that we could research for you and bring back to Council
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We got a motion from Councilman
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second from Councilwoman Warner. All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye.
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it passes unanimously
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three all right
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chief
This is to consider approval of a multi-year contract
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County and the city of
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for renewal of the school resource officer program
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school year beginning July 1, 2020 and ending in
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the contract with the school board. And this is for
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Cambridge Elementary and Endeavor. Thank
you, sir.
Motion to approve.
you get a motion from Councilwoman
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in favor signify
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um Deputy Mayor
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I
have a question about
um the crossing guard. I know I brought this up before. On
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apartment. And we don't, I guess, I don't know if we can, we
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afford to have a person there, but I'm telling you, it's, is it's really bad on traffic. And a lot of kids walk from, uh
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800 areas and they go to Endeavor. And so
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3 45 or
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o'clock or so, but we don't have anybody there. So what, what can we
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at Endeavor, but
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miles an hour on
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Boulevard. I mean, they're flying through that flashing light. I mean, it's, it's pretty, pretty bad, you know?
Yeah, we'll, we'll put it on. I'll put it on. I actually just made some changes to our traffic unit. So they'll be out doing what they do a little bit more than, than they have in the past. um because they'll be doing just that. So we can look at that when the school year starts again and, uh we can have them check that, um for a week or two to see what kind of traffic we're getting there. What's going on. We can run some radar there. um you know, we may even be able to look at uh some signage or something.
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flashing lights.
okay
We had
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where the light wasn't working at some at one point or it stops at a certain time. But the kids, I guess they expect the kids to walk from Endeavor to Wendover in 10 minutes. So by the time they get there, the timer is off. I think you extend ‸ it. ‸ yeah Yeah,
there's also some things, some days at Endeavor after school before the kids don't go directly home. So you're right, by the time they get there, the lights ‸ already off. and
Well, and then on early release days, it's the same thing. And
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because I don't think it, and
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and I think except for, you know, the the time, whether it's early release or not early release. So we'll look at that. I'll put that on our list to look at when when school starts. about Thank
you.
Thank
you, sir. And that's a good candidate for some of those um those signs that we were talking about that has the,
actually
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when you exceed the speed, tell you to, you know, the feedback. Yes,
it's also a good spot for one of those fake cars, you know, that.
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cut out. let's put it right there on that empty lot. jeep right there on the corner.
But anyway, um
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or. No, sir.
Okay. okay We
get a motion to adjourn uh We have a ‸ motion by Councilman
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Second from um Deputy Mayor Goins. All in favor signify by saying aye.
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Thank
you.