City Council

City Council Special Meeting

Date
2023-07-10
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #692
Also captured via
YouTube mirror (P0Yz9FNjVeI) ↗ — alternate recording of the same meeting; primary transcript shown above.
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The City's record

What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (881_CC_Sp_Minutes_07_10_2023.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Herbert "Rip" Dyal, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines.)
  • Absences: the minutes print an “ABSENT” heading with no names under it.
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Stockton Whitten (City Manager), Kristin Eick (Asst. City Attorney), Monica Arsenault (Asst. City Clerk), Jack Walsh (Utilities Director), Charlene Neuterman (Community Services Director), Tammy Gemmati (Administrative Services Director), Evander Collier IV (Police Chief), Pat Dovale (Police Commander), Lora Howell (Deputy Finance Director), Dara Hennessey (Deputy Fire Chief), Rob Beach (Chief)
  • Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, Herbert "Rip" Dyal, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Mike Blake (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (2)

  • to break for lunch (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Herbert "Rip" Dyal); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Herbert "Rip" Dyal, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 3; the vote on p. 4
  • to adjourn the Special City Council Meeting of July 10, 2023 (moved by Herbert "Rip" Dyal, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Herbert "Rip" Dyal, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 7

Agenda (the City's wording)

The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (CC_Sp_Agenda_07_10_2023), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.


Transcripts of this meeting's recordings

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Recording of 2023-07-10 (Special City Council Meeting July 10, 2023 Part 1 of 2) Partial transcript

Recording's title: Special City Council Meeting July 10, 2023 Part 1 of 2 · Date: 2023-07-10 · open on this page

Transcript of Recording of 2023-07-10 (Special City Council Meeting July 10, 2023 Part 1 of 2): 1,035 passages, 15,037 words

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Yes, sir.
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The men in blue, would you please lead us in the pledge? ‸ Service.
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pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic
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Invocation, please.
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Thank you for giving us a chance to be with
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another day. Lord, bless us as we go through this meeting that we make the correct
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keep us in your care. Lord, when we leave this place, we want to just make sure that our homes are safe, our children are well taken care of. Lord, in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen.
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Thank
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you.
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Madam Clerk, may we do roll call, please, ma'am.
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Mayor Blake. Present,
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ma'am.
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Deputy
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you. I ‸ don't have
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COVID.
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‸ Okay, thank you very much, Madam Clerk.
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We
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want to say thank you all for an attendance for today's budgetary meeting. This is a special city meeting, special city council meeting, and we want to say thank you very much for your attendance. This is the lineup for today. Our workshop topics include
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and after Stan Tech will be departmental budget presentations. Then we will break for lunch, and then we will resume our meeting, and
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and then council's discussion. Very active and busy day, so every minute counts, and I want to say thank you very much for your quality ‸ time. Please forgive me. I'm with my back to you, but I respect you too. We don't care. So any questions? Seeing none, Mr. City Manager, the floor is yours, sir.
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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Good morning. Good morning. Council members, staff, and the public. So this is, as you said, ‸ a day-long meeting where we want to cover many things that we want, all the questions that you have about budget proposals, all the way down to the line item asked and answered.
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and then we go to the recruitment and retention issues. Then we go to the general fund overview, and then the departments will take you through their budget requests. Again, their budget requests at this point,
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you all a balanced budget proposal, and I haven't done that yet. ‸ And so, again, we're going to talk about it all, including fund balances, ‸ and I've had this discussion with various people about fund balances and their ability to fund recurring expenses,
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with regards to fund balances, and hopefully Mrs. Bowman will clear that up.
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through the various departments. Let me, before we get started, there are two new staff members that I want to introduce, And we're very lucky to actually get these two ladies there, and so I feel fortunate, and they're in the audience, and I wanted to introduce them today. First is Dara Hennessy, who is the new assistant fire chief. And second is Stacy Hopper, who is a new planner.
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yeah. And this is actually Stacy's first day,
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I feel very fortunate to get her, ‸ and
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So let me get started.
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love that photo, by the way, just for the record, sir.
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Yeah, we're doing all we can to make sure they know that we want them here.
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It's a lot of things because every time it goes through,
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either way,
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I've watched it.
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Well, once it flies,
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it.
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I see it. We're practicing. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, again, hopefully that'll become reality for us in the distant future. So just want to give you sort of my overview of the budget proposal. Again, this is a very fluid situation, and So we're continuing to look at the various budget proposals, the various budget requests from the city departments.
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but you all are not slated to approve the tentative millage until, yeah, it's the 25th there, And so that's where you'll be asked to ‸ approve the tentative of the ‸ millage rate.
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these are Stockton's goals as
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city manager, is to actually the recruitment and retention of employees with specific emphasis on public safety and core services and
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the retention of employees. Obviously,
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continuing the union contractual pay increases, continuing pay increases for general employees,
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‸ and Mr. Walsh specifically has a proposal in his presentation that he's going to talk to you about. Maintaining the annual increases for water, stormwater,
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fire to obviously address inflationary and operating capital increases, and that'll be Jeff, Pete, and Ralph taking you through that.
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so they'll take you through that. I think you guys are used to seeing that Stantec presentation. They're here again to do that sort of independent review of where we're going and run you through the scenarios there. And then just the proper funding of capital and one-time needs with recurring revenues, And we'll give you some more detail on what we mean by that. We have a lot of capital needs that have been deferred over time,
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budget proposal to actually align those needs with recurring revenue sources. Major increases as we see them at this particular point in time, obviously, and Stantec will get into this, Rebecca will get into this, There is a discussion about a, an increase, a millage rate increase to address the first bullet point, which is recruitment and retention pay program for public safety, Public safety being both police and fire. Union contractual pay increases, again, we're under contract with all of the unions with the exception of, is it one or two? Two,
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two tenants.
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Okay. And then general employee pay increases are, again, going to be in the budget proposal.
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Health insurance is, is going up, but we've actually done pretty well over the last three fiscal years in terms of health insurance. that we've, we've, I think, beat the market, if I, if I, if I'm remembering correctly, Tammy on that. Okay. And then pension costs are always an issue, And so we always have these big annual inflationary increases that we have to manage within the revenues that we have.
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but again, recall that your base is so depressed, so low that,
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and we've had a 20% increase in new construction. It just doesn't bring what you think that that would bring if you were in some other city with a higher taxable value tax base. And so the fiscal impacts of all ‸ this stuff that I talked about previously would be
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to pay specifically for and dedicated to first responder recruitment and retention program. ‸ Again, police and fire.
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so, and so that half
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is approximately 1.7 million and, and what we have on the table, what we will put on the table for police and fire will, will be approximately that amount. So the 1.7 million, um,
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I think we actually have drilled down on some of the major capital purchases if I'm not mistaken there.
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so,
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recurring revenue stream. I think that's the only way that you're going to have a, a, a, a, a,
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planned, a, and to be anticipated capital program from year to year. Uh, big capital needs, um, probably in primarily all, all departments. Uh, and then approximately, um, utilizing an additional $700,000 in fund balance for capital and one-time purchases. Again, just the, the recurring revenues alone won't fund the capital requests, capital needs of the various departments. And so, we have to do a mix of, of, uh, recurring revenues and, and, uh, fund balances. Again, we'll talk a whole lot about fund balances because I really want, uh, to drill down on, on the story behind the numbers because if you just simply look at the numbers there, you, you,
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you really can't get full context of, uh, of, uh, fund balances and the, and the issues associated with fund balance. And so, that's, that's my sort of very, uh, brief overview, my sort of framing of where we are in terms of my thought process as we go into delivering within the next two weeks a balanced budget proposal, uh, to you guys. And so, I'll stop here and take questions before I turn it over to Jeff and his team. So,
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you don't have any questions, Jeff,
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Uh, you should. Yeah, I'll go make sure you do.
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Yeah. Yeah, they're,
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No, I don't,
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we'll get those,
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Well, it's good to be with the city again this year. And we have a presentation that we'll go through considering the results of our annual analysis for the general fund, the utilities fund, the fire assessment, and the stormwater fund. And ‸ again, highlight the ‸ sufficiency ‸ and financial sustainability analysis that can perform for each of those key components of the city and how they impact the budget. ‸ And ‸ Pete and I will kind of transfer back and forth depending on which fund we're talking about, but open to questions and discussion and want to provide you as much information as we can.
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our role really is to provide an outside third-party set of eyes on the sustainability of the city's funds and offer recommendations on some solutions from a revenue and expense standpoint to make sure that ‸ in conjunction with your budget, you're able to meet the goals of the city. So with that, I'll turn it over to Pete.
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All right. Thanks, Jeff. Good morning, everybody. My name is Peter Napoli. I work with Stantec. I'll be going through the first little collection of slides, which includes an introduction and an overview of our process.
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and he is our specialist with the models. He's got all the financial models, so if we wanted to dig into any details, we could do that. But ‸ mostly we have a brief presentation for you guys just overviewing the results. So as I said, the ‸ agenda is going over the foundation of the analysis. ‸ What is it exactly that we do for the city? Then we'll get into our general fund analysis. So we have a separate analysis just for the general fund that looks at the finances and the departmental expenses and revenues associated with the general fund. Then I'll hand it back over to Jeff. He specializes in the water and sewer and the utility forecast, so
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and then I'll go over the stormwater, and we'll wrap it up. Oh, ‸ that looks smaller on that screen than I thought.
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provided. We work with your budget team, although we are a third-party independent. I'm a consulting firm. ‸ We use your data, so your current year budget, fiscal year 23, revenues and expenses. We use your fiscal year 2024 budget, and then we layer in our assumptions that help project for the future ‸ and create that 10-year forecast.
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And the goal is to really provide you guys options
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and ‸ give you an outlook on how certain decisions will change your financial outcome ‸ and help you guys make decisions today. So the models are flexible, and you can look at different scenarios and see how that impacts the sustainability of your funds. So our source data there at the bottom of that last section of this slide includes the 2023 adjusted budget, including personnel increases,
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So those are the specific projects that your city has identified as being priorities to be funded by either the general fund or the utility fund and their stormwater funds. So starting with the general fund analysis, some key planning observations and considerations here are summarized on this slide.
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evaluate the sufficiency of your revenues and your general fund from property taxes and other sources to meet projected costs.
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sales tax that's allocated from the county. There's a number of charges that are also used to fund the departments in the general fund. So those are all included in our model. Some of the observations we're assuming, and we do have one scenario related to this, the salary increases as the city manager alluded to, but we're assuming for the most part that your current budget as presented in 2024 throughout the forecast is resuming at operating levels. So
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This is as operating today,
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the model.
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fund sustainability. And, uh, it's about an additional 500,000 in costs.
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The CIP for the general fund reflects a conservative spending assumption of about an annual average of 1.7 million. And as Stockton said, the goal is to reach about
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for the general fund to contribute to the CIP. We've also included in our scenario that the continued plan of fire assessment rate increases at 3% a year to keep up with the increase in fire rescue costs.
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all the funds, uh, long-term escalation of costs, um, uh, will always outpace revenue growth if there aren't rate adjustments. Um, if the revenue rates are remain the same, the costs, the growth in costs will outpace it. So that's why you have to look at your rates and fees and adjust annually, um, according to the growth
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costs. And, uh, another key issue is that the, the high, the higher long-term salary increases are programmed into the model. I think, um, previously we're working with an assumption of on average over 10 years, 3%. And with discussions with management and budget, it just doesn't seem that that's going to cut it in the market because the market is really aggressive.
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And obviously that's a key initiative for the city. Uh, so we've increased our assumption, the average assumption of escalation for salaries in our models to be more realistic.
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‸ So this screen here summarizes the results of the general fund analysis. And I know it's a lot to look at, but I'll point out the key components of this.
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Uh, the top line, if you can read it, uh, is the millage rate. And we've assumed that the millage rate in this current scenario is held ‸ flat over the 10 years. Um, on the left-hand side, the upper left-hand graph, that's the graph that represents your fund balance. So how much money the general fund has
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basically its savings account each year. And how, how it's projected over the 10 years, um, with the effects of cash flows. So we're projecting the revenues. We're projecting the expenses. If your expenses are more than your revenues, you'll start to chew down that fund balance over time. Uh,
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the black line represents the revenues. So you can see in the outer years, right around fiscal year 2028, we're projecting those expenses to outpace the revenues. ‸ And as that gap widens, you'll see the fund balance be depleted on the left-hand side. So those blue bars start to go lower and lower. And when they're below that black line, that black line represents your minimum reserve requirement, which is a city policy for emergencies, liquidity,
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etc. So, uh,
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The, the, uh, fund balance is mostly stable. Um, but it's something that we're, we're forecasting to happen. The cash out is gonna ‸ exceed the cash in. This is, uh, uh, the scenario that, uh, we're recommending or we're looking at,
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Uh, so you can see that overall the 10 years, the fund balances are more stable.
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um, which is pretty far out there and there'll be a lot of adjustments between now and then.
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increases because salary increases are a long-term effect. It's not just a one-time expense. It stays on the books each year and has a cumulative impact on the fund. Similarly, a millage rate increase has a long-term effect too. It's additional ongoing revenue. It's not a one-time grant or a one-time funding source. So,
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recommendations and analysis.
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Um, so we know your assumptions, um, in terms of salary increases. What about property values? Um, what about development? Sure.
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have any assumptions for those?
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Yeah, absolutely. It's a crucial component of the general fund analysis to project the property, uh, value increases. And there is a lot of uncertainty ‸ when it comes to that.
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or may not occur due to a number of things.
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appraisers already provided the city what you guys know will be the increase for next year.
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good. Um, next year, that's not something you want to project each year, um, and have a conservative model because it's just overly aggressive. Uh, however, we do show a substantial amount
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or so. And that is because there are a lot of development projects in the pipeline and that will contribute to the overall tax base increase. Um, so even in the baseline scenario, um, without the millage rate increase, we have all that programmed in so that you're technically your revenues are going up because you're seeing
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taxable value increase, but the millage rate stays the same.
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it's still more than the growth in that development and existing property values bring the tax base. So this slide here summarizes the, uh, impact of the 3% fire assessment rate. Um, we have, uh, kind of three components of the fire assessment rate. It's the residential rate per dwelling unit, the tier one rate and the tier two rate. Uh, you'll see that, uh, currently residences pay 235.62, um, annually. And with the 3% increase, it goes to 242.69. So about a $7 increase. Uh, the estimated collected revenue is shown below and, and we also include a line that, that totals up the actual cost of fire rescue in the budget. So the fire assessment only actually brings in about 50% of the cost. Uh, the rest is funded from general revenues, um, and your general fund. So that's just something to keep in mind.
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cost recovery, uh, that is an option.
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rate, um, in, uh, survey form and how it compares to other entities across the state. I know it's really small, but the orange line is currently where you're at.
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So it, you maintain your position in the survey.
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just, uh, it's increased slightly. So you're kind of towards the bottom half of the overall regional, um, entities that charge fire assessments. And with that, I'm going to hand it over to Jeff to go over water and sewer.
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So just, just as Pete covered for the general fund, um, ‸ want to cover some key observations and considerations that were built into the analysis for utilities this year. Uh, but a little bit of background, I think
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helpful to, to make sure that everybody understands kind of where the, where the cities come from, uh, from a rates perspective for utilities. So each year, as we're sitting here today, the utility has for
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12 to 13 or 14 years done this annual revenue sufficiency analysis, uh, for utilities. Um, as, as you're also where most of your customers are outside city, or they're not actual city of cocoa residents.
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do come from outside the city.
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just want to make sure that everybody understands that. Um,
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last year's analysis, the city implemented or continued a 4% annual rate indexing plan that was first adopted by resolution back in 2021. Um, and last year's analysis called for that 4% water sewer rate, annual indexing plan to go ‸ through the forecast
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Similar to all the other funds that we're going to cover today, that the primary objective of this is to make sure that, um, the, that adopted rate indexing plan is sufficient to cover the utilities costs, not just for this upcoming budget year. Uh,
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term,
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in some cases. And we can't just plan on a one year basis.
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capital plan that, um, require kind of persistent and continuing tracking of the fund performance.
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the other main component along those lines is to develop a capital financing plan. So particularly again, with utilities and the nature of, of utility infrastructure, we're talking about a capital improvement plan in the neighborhood of, you know, 20 to $30 million a year, potentially given, you know, the fluctuations based on the needs of the of the utility on any given year, but we've got to develop a plan that balances, uh, the rate increases with grants that may come in with potential debt financing down the road, um, as well as available cash and balances. So there's a whole dynamic capital improvement plan funding process that has to happen. That's goes beyond just the next budget year. Uh, the key issues that we really looked at this year that impacted the utilities fund. Um, you're going to hear this for all the funds again, as well, I feel like a little bit of a broken record, but, um, there is substantial inflation and utilities are not immune to that. And in particular, actually, in some cases, utilities are more affected.
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budget, um, compared to last year. And that's more than triple, you know, what overall inflation has been. And that's a cost
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Um, Capital construction costs for utilities have also skyrocketed much higher than regular inflation. Uh, that's, there's issues with supply chain, contractor availability, uh, competitiveness between contractors. And so there's a lot of,
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additional inflation that utility faces that, that, you know, just your overall CPI wouldn't necessarily capture. As we develop the financial management plan or update it each year, uh, there are several key components that we look at to make sure or how we measure the sustainability. Ultimately, you need a financially sustainable utility. So
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that's financially sustainable really to, to support a city,
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growing city and really any city and quality of life. And so
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at levels that they fund the cash flow needs of the system. So this means your annual operating expenses are covered. The capital costs
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a plan is developed to fund those, um, to have that continuous reinvestment into the, into the utility system.
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We've got to make sure cash flows are, are sufficient. Number two is, um, we've got to make sure that we maintain a sufficient fund balance. Um, just as any household from any financial planning planner would tell a household, Hey, you, you really should maintain a, um, an emergency fund. Um, your fund balance or your operating reserve sort of works in those, in that context. So you have, um, ‸ emergency fund or operating reserve is important because it funds unforeseen capital expenditures. Uh, we've dealt with clients last year, city of Fort Myers and city of Cape Coral who dealt with the devastating hurricane. And there are, there are absolute cash flow needs for utility at that point. You have revenues that may stop for a period of time. Um, and you just, things like that you can't necessarily plan for. So we've got to have some, some funds available in, in a reserve.
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to maintain debt service coverage ratios. And debt service coverage is really just, uh, your net revenues after you've paid for operating expenses that are available to cover your annual debt principal and interest payments. So you have promises made, um, as
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issuer of debt that you have to repay that debt and you have to maintain coverage levels at certain ratios. And so we are over the last several years. And again, this year, uh, looking to maintain at least two times debt service coverage ratio, the higher debt service coverage ratio, it offers more ability to cash finance, uh, ‸ capital improvement plan and preserve utilities borrowing capacity, which I think is going to be particularly important in the next several years.
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um, advanced water treatment and, um, other regulatory needs that, that you're going to face. And so I think you want to be able to maintain your borrowing capacity.
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based where there's a lot of potential for grant opportunities. And so we factor that into the analysis as well. This is the overview or snapshot of the utilities analysis for this year. Again, we have a 10 year projection and we are recommending a continuation of the 4% annual, um, rate indexing plan that that's already been approved, but a continuation of that, uh, for 2024 and beyond, uh, with this plan, we're, we're meeting those cashflow requirements, the meeting, the six month reserve target,
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covering our debt service coverage ratios. And then you will see in the bottom right graph,
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but that's really going to be contingent upon the execution of the CIP, um, grant funding that may be available and ‸ whole other
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variables, but we're looking longer term now for future debt. This is a local comparison that we always like to provide you. I think it's really informative. It shows you how your rates compared to other local providers. Um, and so you'll see your current rates are, this is
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You're right there in the ‸ orange, uh, outline with your current rates. Um, if you do the 4% increase next year, continue that you would, you see the cocoa proposed FY 24, um,
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one space above Palm Bay there. Um, but that's, that's compared to every other community at FY 23 rates. So it doesn't factor in any increases that they may
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And what we've seen with clients across Florida and throughout the industry is there are almost every community is doing rate increases. Um, nowadays,
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You're in a similar spot. Yeah, very similar. I don't have it right in front of me, but yeah.
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No,
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a great question. We, we do have, um, about, it's about one, it's about,
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average, um, growth
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somewhere in that range in terms of new, um, new connections. And that's, that includes your outside city areas, not just within the city on the water side.
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then obviously similar percentage, but fewer connections on the sewer. And then also factored in is projected impact fee revenue that you would get from those new connections. So that would help pay for any kind of growth related projects as well.
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it looks like my heading got cut off here, but, um, this is just a water only because you have so many, so much of your system are water only customers and they get their sewer service provided elsewhere. And we wanted to show what your current and then proposed water only bill would be. Now, this is for an inside city customer, your outside city customers pay 10%. Um, so, you know,
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And they will possibly,
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as well. So it's universal. Yeah. Yep. You're definitely not. But they also,
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we also pay a 10% service tax if you live in the city. So ‸ essentially we pay the same rate.
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Yeah. From a, from a rates perspective, um, this just captures, um, non-tax. Yeah. She's talking about the public service.
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referring to the outside city. Yeah. Rates are charged. But,
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do they pay that on top?
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talking about the outside right there.
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so we're not, we're not equalized because we have the public service there because they, they have it too.
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haven't checked on which Brevard cities have it, but I'm pretty sure most, if not
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thank you for that. Any questions on utilities before we move on?
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I mean, absolutely. As a regional regional provider of water, too, I mean, you think of not just the city of Cocoa doesn't rely on your utility department, but actually the whole, much of Brevard County and the region does as well. So, um I think from a, from a rates perspective, you saw on the, on the comparison there, there are utilities of various sizes, but to me, that's more of a, there are a lot of factors that go into rates for a community. But
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far as rates. I mean, that's, you're, you're right where the region is, as far as you're not an outlier from a cost perspective. And so, um you know, there are, there are a lot of different dynamics that go into each
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doing a great job. um from what I can see, just from the numbers and how things are shaping out. And
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more to come. So thank you. Thank you for your assistance I'm not trying to put you under the fire, but guess what? Welcome to the club. okay
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Pete again here, um to go over the last, uh part of our presentation, we're going to look at the stormwater fund. uh so the stormwater, the city has a stormwater fund where, a non-advalorum annual assessment, a special assessment is charged to residents, uh and it funds stormwater operations costs and stormwater capital. uh so, uh in addition to the general fund
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at the stormwater fund and ensure that they have sufficient revenues to cover their ongoing costs.
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uh fund balance requirement that we include, uh
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liquidity and also for unforeseen ‸ emergency circumstances. uh there would also be impacts to the stormwater fund if there was a natural disaster
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we, uh
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we had an annual plan of
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increases. um There
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also assumptions for grant funding. uh Grant funding is a huge part of funding stormwater capital, and it's an ongoing effort. um And we've included certain projects projects that we, uh and the city expects to be grant funded. So those assumptions are uh reflected in our financial model The uh the capital plan uh increased uh since the last time we looked
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So uh that is an impact to ‸ the the financial forecast. um But there's also, as I said, that grant funding is a part of the uh the funding source for the capital plan. uh So really the key issues on the stormwater side, it's really capital intensive. um The the main cost and the main pressure on the assessment rates is is from capital uh
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as far as stormwater improvements across the across the city. um And there is also a plan not just for new and expansion of stormwater facilities, but for the replacement of old and the rehab. So uh rehab and replacement of aging infrastructure is included in that capital plan. So as uh the other two forecasts, we have uh this is the dashboard from our financial model and and summarizes the plan here. And we've maintained that
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uh similar to the fire assessment and similar
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is held throughout the 10-year period. And under this, um uh the results of this analysis, it shows that it provides sufficient revenues uh to maintain that fund balance over the 10-year period and fund
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a portion of that capital plan. uh So the middle, the bottom middle graph kind of shows the capital plan and what's funded in green with operating cash or assessment revenues.
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amount of uh grant funding there.
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I just wanted to point out the sustainable plan on the upper left hand graph that shows the fund balance or the the savings account for the stormwater fund. And it's maintained above that black line in all 10 years of the projection period. So this is an ideal result. This survey here shows your stormwater assessment rate in relation to others across the state. uh it's currently 131.77 and uh that's for one eru um depending on this the amount of impervious surface on your property, that's how the stormwater rate fluctuates.
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uh So
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uh is shown by that green ‸ bar there. So uh a small jump over
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um but not at the top of the list, uh not at the bottom of the list. So uh kind of the upper middle half there.
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know, there's cities really have varying levels of stormwater level of service. uh They may, some cities may pay more attention to it than others. And, you know, some cities have really bad flooding issues and uh also are in dire need of more stormwater infrastructure. So um that's the thing that isn't shown in these surveys is their level of service and and what they're actually ‸ providing to their residents. Can
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I ask a question?
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Sure.
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The, uh this may be for staff.
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reserve or is this separate from
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Okay. And, uh now we just have a summary page to kind of wrap things up
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uh issue there was the increase of the
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by a half
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uh and that helps the general fund achieve a longer term sustainability of fund balance and an ongoing, uh funding source for things like salary increases and capital annual capital spending.
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to keep up with uh
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The water and sewer utility had the continuation of the
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annual rate indexing plan. So an increase to the water and sewer rates of
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And the stormwater rate also had a
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increase, uh to the rate.
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And can you tell me that on the stormwater, what is the increase?
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question for Chief
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heard rumors that they're going to give
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is ‸ not a patient. Can I answer that?
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and I'm gonna ‸ answer that as a as a former uh as the former county manager here. uh That's that's not gonna ‸ happen. That's just not gonna ‸ happen. It's just a
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i mean and and and the the i mean here's the the thought process is is that if you if that happens, you'll have 14, 16 different emergency transportation systems. And so it's a unified system right now. And I think the county is always interested in maintaining that. But I can tell you, as a former uh county manager and spending 23 years over
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yeah
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that's really that's the conclusion of our presentation and uh we're here uh to answer any questions if you might have any but um yeah we appreciate uh having the chance to work for the city and um as always happy to help and
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‸ average increase what would that boil down to
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yeah it was so it's about for a combined bill um
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yes
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water and
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So
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there, it's a you
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it's different for me when I came over um to have uh an outside consultant
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on our projections. And and also doing their independent review. And remember that they have many more clients than just the city of
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And so they're they're benchmarking us against what other um municipalities are doing. um you know As we talked about uh taxable values and and growth there, you know we we have those sort of full discussions about uh the assumptions in the template there. And so we were I think we're still conservative on that. i got my fingers crossed that we're conservative on that. but But we're a little bit, we've adjusted them up um to be more realistic with what's happening here. And so you know I appreciate being able to sit down each year and have them go through sort of the rhyming reason of the of the rate adjustments. There
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And so so again, i I really appreciate that. And they do a great job. i I first encountered uh their model when we did the fire assessment over at the county there. And so I know it's it's sort of tried and true. and And they perfected it to a great extent. um And so again,
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to the table, as well as other staff members, Kelly and other staff ‸ So um that's their presentation. If you don't have questions, I'm sure they have other stuff they'd like to do
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sit here uh for the rest of the day with us. If you want to stay, that's great. but all
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right We have any additional questions, Council? Thank you for your detailed and thorough presentation. That speaks quality about ‸ Thank you very much, gentlemen. This is my,
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give or take?
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this, provide the services to as well?
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okay. Yeah, okay,
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‸ it's great to see faces that we can recognize and
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So, thank you, thank you guys. Thank
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you. um
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‸ Mr. Mayor, we'll we'll move along here.
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‸ there.
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to to recognize her and, you know,
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State, but Miami is okay with us. And so,
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uh one of the more impressive resumes I've ever seen. she She is a undergrad chemistry of Miami. She is graduate chemistry FIU. uh And then she is a professional engineer from FIU. So it is a a very impressive. uh ‸ And also when you take your lunch break, that's a working lunch. So you'll be doing the uh the IT, you'll have
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but a lot of what IT does is, is, a not subject to, a public disclosure. I'll say it that way. um so we'll move on. I think, Rebecca, we had Tammy going next. um
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no, I was just doing the general budget
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So we'll do, we'll do the general budget overview and then Tammy will talk about pay stuff. um ‸ okay. Thanks, guys. um
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‸ Okay, so I'm going to, uh just provide you ‸ with, um uh high level budgetary highlights. um and then when we come back at the council meeting on the 25th with a balanced budget, um
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But right now the discussion is just the issues that we have. So
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So just as a reminder what the charter requirements are for, uh submission of the budget, uh the city manager has to submit his recommended budget for the next fiscal year. um essentially by September 30th, needs to be adopted before the last day of the fiscal year. um
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council shall hold public hearings on the proposed budget. And we
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and then ‸ you need to um make sure that you hold the first public hearing and then a second public hearing. uh When you adopt the budget, uh
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so uh we'll be right at that last week of September uh bringing you the final budget. And then it uh states what should happen if council does not adopt a budget by that date. So um this is a list of previously stated council priorities. um You all have seen this list before, um and we just wanted to highlight that there are some things that were funded in the current fiscal year's budget or are in process. um So
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uh put some money aside um for the museums based on council recommendation that was uh coming from a signed fund balance. um
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uh That's been somewhat challenging because we're not getting uh bidders to respond to our bid requests. And
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we actually have an item on for tomorrow. Tomorrow, Yeah. um
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There's additional funding for Upstart Cocoa, both in Diamond Square and in the city, so that's helping ‸ businesses. Money was set aside for recruitment and retention. As you all know, we did the high school program for police and fire, and then there's also money set aside for one-time bonuses for hiring
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and then improvements with on street parking and in parking lots. uh They have the enhanced law enforcement where the officers are in the village um doing additional policing. And then in Diamond Square, the Michael C. Blake subdivision is in process right now. So we are making some progress with um the priorities that council have requested previously. um
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where we're at with the budget right now, um we look at our new revenue sources, and then we look at what our expenditure increases are. And as the consultants just told you, there's increases ‸ everywhere. There's rising costs everywhere. um So we need to try and keep up with that. um Right now, we're looking at a half a
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increase which is tied directly to public safety salaries we did experience a nice healthy
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increase in just property values. uh
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which was really good for us so that some of those apartment complexes that have come online. um As the consultants just discussed with all of you,
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utility rates. So then we look at our expenditures, and we have multiple increases in just across the board expenditures. We were able to keep uh
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uh One thing we found with our property and liability insurance uh was
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that number is
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split with the water fund. I just want to point out.
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contributions,
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rebecca those three bullet points combined those are how much is that Just off the top of your head.
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Nine and a half,
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for those three bullet points.
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Yeah. ‸ at least. uh ‸ And then uh we're looking at any
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So uh the proposal for personnel right
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uh police, yeah, and adjust their pay ranges. So, um Tammy will discuss this a little bit more, but in order to try and, um attract police officers to the city of Coco, we're proposing to increase the pay ranges. So an officer coming
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increase in their rate of pay per hour.
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increase that the city manager is requesting is to pay for the cost of that is very expensive um
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uh our Social Security goes up and then
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plus any ad pays plus any overtime. So um it's not just their salaries that's increasing. um And then again, as I stated,
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increase uh for all other employees that are not public safety and the budget right now does not include any new positions in any departments. So no police officers, no firefighters, no utilities, no general employees. So just maintaining ‸ status quo. um So um as we go through the budget adoption every year, we're trying to match our recurring revenue with our recurring expenses. Most of those things, I think just about all ‸ I just showed you on the previous slide, are recurring costs. So you need to pay for um recurring costs with recurring revenue. And traditionally, the city has funded the amount of capital that they can afford through the use of fund balance because that's a one-time cost. So the city does have a fund balance reserve policy that was adopted by city council. The
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if we had something catastrophic like um uh that hurricane or something. And then um with the reserves, if you're going to use the reserves, you have to have a plan on how you're going to replace those reserves. So if you had a loss in revenue, you had to go to that reserves, you had to figure out how you're going to get revenue enough revenue to put that money back into your savings account um
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So you should not use recurring costs to pay for your, uh to use your fund balance to pay for your recurring costs. um
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which we have done in the past, um
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that we
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fund balance for was economic incentives for Walmart and then we set aside uh some affordable housing money for the Michael C. Blake subdivision using fund balance.
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So uh in the current year's budget so far um we're trying to fund more um and as the city manager previously stated uh we can't really keep up with what our capital needs are every single year. We don't have the money to pay for that. um So for example in the police department he'll go into it and um when he gets to his section but he needs to replace a lot of vehicles and we cannot replace all those vehicles all at once. We can't afford it. We found out this year that we have radios that need to be replaced. We can't afford to replace all of those all at once so this year we have budgeted um to use recurring revenue of 1.5 million dollars to pay for some of our capital and then the rest of it is about 1.3 million dollars that we're requesting to take out
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fund balance. And that's going to help those needs make a better dent in the police vehicle replacements and then um with the radios and then they have consoles for dispatch and some other costs from the county that came up in this past year that we were not planning on.
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‸ that doesn't Rebecca
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fund balance number. Okay.
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listing of.
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The capital needs that are being funded, uh with the current budget. um ‸ so you can see we have computer equipment that needs to be replaced. That's something that you can't put off for very long.
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We have vehicles, uh several vehicles that need to be replaced. Public works is, um usually. Public safety comes first. So public works gets pushed aside with their vehicle replacement, but we're at the point where we can't put it off any longer. the fire department
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imaging cameras. The civic Center needs a new roof. We've been talking about that for several years. that Things need to be done with the civic center so in total there's about 2.4 million dollars and then um we usually have about 300 000 set aside in a signed fund balance to to minimally keep up with our street paving.
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and I talked about street paving uh this morning and so we we literally rely on
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fund balance savings from year to year to do the street paving uh program and we only do that to to uh at a
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uh that's part of the story with regards to fund balance and that's sort of the context of uh of the fund balance numbers there. We're literally relying on savings from one fiscal year to the next just to do the street paving uh
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safety concern. um Vehicles don't really stay within the parking lot. They kind of park anywhere. Okay. And so we're afraid that at some point there's
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Yeah, it does say public works fence but it's a fence.
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Public works department has a budget for it. ‸ Does
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is not touching on anything. um Especially now with cost of construction going up.
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what What could we do to increase it? um Does that mean chopping off another project to increase it? Because we know that
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is not.
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all, this is all this
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a proposal. ‸ so, um
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and fire ‸ pay. And so, no new revenue um that you have. So it's a shell game at this point. You know, we we're taking from other places to uh to increase that or to fund that. You know, again, as you and I talked this morning, you know,
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street, annual street paving program needs to come from recurring source also, or a mixture of both. You know, just, just again, hadn't gotten to that, uh
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development of a budget there. But at this point, you know, ‸ the board,
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to actually have that come from, or at least the balance of fund balances or savings and recurring revenues, then we we got to go back and and sharpen the pencil on other items that uh would have
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question is uh while we were on that conversation is it feasible for staff to uh do an analysis on all the streets that really need pavement because i know there's a lot especially in my district in dire need if we can get a total amount of number and maybe the next session um we can go to our state rep and ask for possibly help with funding because i saw some other cities uh did that with their state rep this last session
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Yeah. We, we actually have the pavement management system. And i I knew you were going to say that, which is at some point in time, they actually did the sort of infield assessment of the roads And it's sort of just been uh updated year after year. So that's, that's the best we have other than paying a consultant to put boots on the road there.
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a councilman, uh goings issue is
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at a particular point in time that hasn't been updated with for however many years. there But we can actually get you that what we know in the priority world. i'm
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also going to say that the agenda item we have tomorrow night, uh with that additional money we're spending on paving, I mean,
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of those are district
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so ‸ That's
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that are in district
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that I'm
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left behind for years. And so, or a lot of patching has been done, which I understand sometimes when you're doing sewer crossing and things of that nature, you know, you have to do that. But there are some streets that haven't been touched in
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we get a point of clarification? What's the difference between street paving and remilling? Am I saying that right? Where you just add another layer on top of it? ‸ Mrs. Morgan? Yes. Or the city manager
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So the way a road uh is is replaced is it's first milled and then it's uh resurfaced. So it's called milled and paved.
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But do you, when you're, when you're repaving, do you mill it each and every time?
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Yes. Okay. Sometimes we do micro surfacing. I know we did the, pull that
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closer we,
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perform those, uh in some district
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roadways, uh back in 2016. But, uh our, our process now is to remill and pave all roads on the paving list.
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So,
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And then, and so talk to them about the differences between, uh a complete reconstruction versus milling and, uh ‸ repaving.
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Okay. So, um there's also full depth reclamation, which
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Now, what they do there, we have to do core samples and they come up with a mixed design. That's going to come up with a kind of a full rehabilitation ‸ of the road.
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so they come in and they do the same kind of procedure where they grind it, but they take about eight to
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inches of the roadway. And they put together the design mix along with what they've, um captured and, um re, ‸ resurface it and then um actually put down the sub subgrade and then resurface it.
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‸ I wanted to go back for just a minute here.
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pay increases and the increase of the millage rate to a half a mill. One thing to keep in mind, like we've been talking about, is paying for recurring costs with recurring revenue. And um
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um which was a growth
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the next. But a lot of times that fund balance growth occurs because we don't spend all of our budget. So as you all are aware in fiscal year 21
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Well, that money isn't spent yet. It was budgeted to be spent, but it hasn't been spent yet. So if
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reserves that your your uh fund balance policy says that you need to have.
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which is about three months of operating.
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today that was planned on being spent
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of today. And again, you need to keep in mind that fund balance ‸ is a picture at a point in time. It's like looking at your bank account today. Hey, look, I just got paid and I got lots of money in my bank account, but you haven't paid your bills yet. And so once you pay your bills, you don't have so much money as what it looks like on paper today. And so when I do um a presentation of fund balance at the end of the fiscal year for the financial statements,
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of what I can put in there as how I'm presenting my fund balance. It was
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54 back in 2016 or something. And then there's the other things that I know, like money that we've committed in the next fiscal year
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money is gone. But you look at the picture with our financial statements at the end of the fiscal year last year, you
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trying to explain that that's why we need to keep trying to come up with this recurring revenue to pay for these
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to fund capital in the future. And you're banking on not spending everything. We have money, obviously this year savings and police and fire from their vacancies, and that helps replenish that fund balance back up to be able to assign money and do other projects for other one-time costs.
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when you said
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annually, the way we have. One method of addressing that is to build, to enhance our city's um coffers through taxes or
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communities, through downtown development, buildings going up. That's how we compensate and carry and maintain that reoccurring expense because we're going to get these dollars from this business that comes because they have to pay their taxes. Is
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even in the Bible tells you, if you don't have a vision, you're going to what? Perish. And by God, the people believe in us, and we're not going
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uh development to me. I want to see our frameworks. I want to see my Amazons. I want to see the expansion of
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reoccurring revenue that we will use for our general fund to address our concerns. that Those bills that constantly reoccur. So we're going to have to be creative and through your city manager's expertise and the staff, I
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say on that note, what types, because
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each. For that, you have a lot of fire expenses, there's infrastructure. What sort of development? Well,
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yeah, big big big apartment complexes are good. uh ‸ big commercial buildings and commercial operations are good. One of the things that uh ‸ general public doesn't realize is that you get, you know, there's revenue from the real estate and then there's revenue from the tangible property, the the the machinery and equipment. And so manufacturing is good. um you know, any, any, any, uh complex business where there's a, there's a, a, a real estate and a, and a, uh operating machinery sort of component there. Big, big, ‸ subdivisions are, are, are great. um uh
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know, and so, uh something like an Amazon is good. Walmart distribution center. uh we're working on two, uh subdivisions that would be the biggest in the city of, a of Cocoa
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know, obviously, uh hotels and, and, uh all those sort of things there. And so, you know, the, the bigger, the better, obviously the, the property appraiser is responsible for the, what she values them at on the, uh on the tax base. But, you know, never hurts to have a 200 000 square foot distribution center. Never hurts to have manufacturing. um and so, all of those things in which we, we have a, uh you know, uh complement of all
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is a pretty big project there. And so, that, you know that gives you some sort of sense of sort of scope ‸ And just
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one question. So, Barrera Shores or, and i think new construction probably brings in more. uh
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So what about do you take into account the infrastructure that has to go into that? Just as I've lived in a city where the infrastructure was in one direction, the population grew in another direction
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that? Do we look at that?
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if something doesn't happen there in terms of minimum level of services, um whether projects can continue if you um if you don't do something with that road because uh
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2011.
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plan whether it's in your code, um you know we don't allow developers to just come in and build
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all types of ‸ infrastructure, traffic, police, fire, utilities. Public works.
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What would be the average
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um we look at the average cost of a new development of that magnitude. ‸ Would a safe assessment be 300, 400
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Yeah, ‸ I, I,
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say, ‸ you know, it doesn't hurt to have a million dollar
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home.
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Yeah, ‸ it helps. Doesn't hurt to have that. And, and, and generally, you know, obviously we have no control over what the property appraiser values it at. But, I mean, it's a real simple calculation, whatever the taxable value is divided by a thousand times your, your millage rate, you know. And so, and so, uh we've been told that,
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forget the the term that they use there, it's not an entry level uh home or subdivision. And so so
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with regards to to that um subdivision. I think that's 400 and something home sites, if I remember correctly.
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but yeah. Yeah, yeah so so yeah, 385 and then uh the one across the highway is 300 and something, you know. and so That's
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the smart line. and so Yeah, so they go so if you just multiply
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those numbers,
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if they go on taxable
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value, if they go on each, and see if they average out 300 or somewhere near there, then you know, then you can you can do the math there. so we need growth council.
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and what's the eta on those
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four years. I got my fingers and my toes crossed.
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Well, that's part of that vision for the city itself. ‸ for the the new leaders coming in. That's the projection. because It's coming.
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curve. I'd rather be proactive than reactive.
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All right,
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Mayor, sir, thank you. all right Thank you. I agree that
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But I was i'm pretty sure it's been on staff's radar, but other ways that we can grow revenue as well. um I heard we talked about um our external customers for our water utility. They pay with a
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I don't know if there's like a statute on how much we can increase that. And I only bring that up because I know we we keep talking about the need for annexation. because There's a lot of these neighborhoods that in one way or another, we already provide services to them for basically free. uh So I'm just looking at ways that we can encourage uh uh annexation. um Another thing we talked about a while ago our property values we got a number of homes that are valued at 50 000 under 100 000.
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to bring up those property values. um And another thing, our commercial. I see every day I'm going up to Titusville, they're getting a new restaurant and they don't have the workforce. These restaurants are brick. They have all these brand new restaurants that they can't staff. And
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a summit to talk to some of these uh businesses that are coming into Melbourne, Titusville, and let them know we got plenty of space here for them to come in. We have a workforce. So I i know we need new construction, but I think we can be creative as well to grow our revenue. um
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together and talk about. That's all. Can
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you're addressing to us now. So that's the rule of thumb. Because if the people live there, they're going to spend their buy local, keep a local. That's where that adage comes from. And if you have quality schools, which we're moving toward, um and a way of lifestyle,
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um As we're addressing that right now, through our firefighters, our police officers, I mean,
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That's how we get the companies that you're addressing. And the most valuable uh product we have is called liquid gold, that water. Yeah.
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that's how we need to monopolize. it But people will come if you build,
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they'll come. So it's and in the um and the deputy mayor is, you know, I mean, it's all I say new construction, but redevelopment is new construction, you know, and so and so a new new restaurant comes on board and they they uh renovate the old building. And so that's that's also part of new construction, you know, I mean, Titusville, who thought, I don't say that out loud, but I mean, Titusville is doing great. And,
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you know, we never thought we'd see the day when, you know, I mean, it's a chase. Titusville is is going gangbusters. uh Palm Bay is going gangbusters, you know, and and
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just knocks it out of the park, you know, and so and so, you know, we we have a a lot of, you know, I've talked to you guys about Amazon. uh I think we have probably five, six, seven uh opportunities on
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you know, two new subdivisions that are that are of the caliber that those would be uh would be significant for us. You know, Walmart distribution has a phase two in the development agreement, you know, now when and if that happens, you know, we don't we don't know. um
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um And so you know we have a lot of a lot of good opportunities there. We still have, uh you know keep your fingers crossed, Bank of America. um We still have the five acres. uh We still have the hotel site. And so,
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potential that hopefully we will realize within the next, again, let me just say three to four years.
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uh fairly new construction and, and also redevelopment. So.
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um
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to something that
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that don't
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now? Have we considered, how we consider raising that
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It's regulated but that revenue would also stay in the utility ‸ That's not general fund revenue.
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‸ It's not general. Projects. it's
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revenues to address those
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What,
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what revenue the utility fund generates needs to pay for the capital and operating needs of the utility fund and it has to stay in the utility fund. Right. Yeah.
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We,
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on his assets.
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on Jack's assets.
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And,
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uh and then uh administrative charges and then cost allocation. uh Right. What else you got? oh Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You got payment in lieu of, yeah. And so, and so 46 million something in that neighborhood
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you come over and you realize just how dependent our general fund services are on, on water already. You know.
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So are we maxed out
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that amount?
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Jack, you want to take that on the on the uh surcharge to uh outside customers? What
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are your questions? are we Are we maxed out on that amount that we could? We are. Yeah, that
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is, it was it was a report it was a legislative
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20 or 25 years
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25. Yeah,
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‸ And
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remember, just past year, uh
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that
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we can transfer over from from utilities into the general fund. Yeah, so they're looking at it. Not only that, solid ways electricity, whatever municipalities, whatever type of uh services they provide. Like
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but you guys said a very important thing. nail on the head Here it is. Both of you, all three of
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all four ‸ We got a lot of our homes right now. ‸ do not meet that threshold, what he was talking about, tax, homestead exemption. Don't only meet the minimum. um I recall some of, um give me a second, yes, or after her. um there was some um i'm trying to remember the exact number and
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again, development. But the question is, how do we navigate our way through that to address that? Do we flatten them, you know, and construct? you know, that's several years out, you know what I'm saying? So ‸ something that you're right, we need to place on the radar to to to to address that concern. Because once we get some of those homes back, or at least um that they will qualify so we can tax them and get some revenue from them, then that will be an additional substantial impact in our general funds.
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Okay,
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councilwoman calls,
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do know that we we
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do
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have, currently have some programs that we're we're trying, which is the paint program, the landscape, and all those different small things, but it could help with raising up certain property values in certain areas. So, I think we're trying, but I know it's more than you probably could do.
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Yeah, and that, actually yeah, and that and that, again, you know, I mean, one of the good things living in Florida is ‸ save our homes, you know. And so, and so you know, that's, the aesthetics of the community will be improved,
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of their property, which again is
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you know, i mean
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that that that really is, you know, we gotta gotta maximize on that.
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So
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just to go back to something you said about annexation, um annexation is tough on the immediate time frame because how do you convince people to join the city when they're going to have to pay more? Services. but we
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know Services.
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But we know it's really significant for us, in particular, it's like in terms of perception of our city. um The police department, we know that, you know, most of crime is taking place in the unincorporated areas, yet we get,
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get over that hump without doing some annexation. We have a couple areas that would actually bring in more revenues than they would cost in District
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um And that would, you know, if we had, ‸ I feel like we really need to have, this this requires a long-term vision, which is politicians, we don't usually have long-term visions because we know we're here's our time. They
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actually receive services from yeah
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Right.
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So, ‸ but thinking about or having some long-term plan. where we can annex. um I think, you know, you have to go after those areas actually bring in revenues and then go forward the areas that we can redevelop.
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services is the key, sir. My police department responds quicker than say our sheriff department. Let's be honest. And that's one of the caveats that we offer to those that do want to come into the city as well as
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and our local agreement. And, and, and my thing is the key pivotal thing is just like everyone else, safety and services. What can I get biggest bang for my book pertaining to safety first and then services? Is that ‸ One
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other thing,
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they classified
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you know, when you look at the whole county, we probably have as much or more than anybody else senate twice And I feel like we should get some credit for that.
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so we want to talk about that today also
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you don't have to uh
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in uh ‸ we have to we have to look at that.
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That's not
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helping us,
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You got it. You have
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it.
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that it, sir?
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city manager sir
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So again, around noon time, so it's a working lunch where Mr. Beach will take you through his uh his budget. uh so so So the food is here. I think we're recessing to um where are we going
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second floor.
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um Rebecca, did you finish your presentation?
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um The one thing that I just wanted to add and point out again was that, you know council has budgeted uh 14.7 million dollars to use assigned fund balance and once those projects get done, your fund balance is going to go down and you're not going to have um money to assign like that in the future to do some of these things like that you're trying to do right now, like the parks improvements and getting new fire trucks and, excuse me, some of the other things that we budgeted for and assigned fund balance. And so
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future to assign fund balance to. And that assigned fund balance is paying for those one-time projects
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fund balance.
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you have an item on tomorrow night's agenda right addressing that, you know, and and Rebecca, uh I think in her presentation, departmental presentation, maybe maybe it's it's this presentation, but the fund balance was, you you've had vacancies, you've had uh some assistance, some federal ‸ funding assistance through ARPA, you know, and so, and so that, that, you know,
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And so you just can't look at the numbers and say that it's going to be there forever. And again, I, I mean, I started in 1990 in the Broward County budget office and, um you know,
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Recording of 2023-07-10 (Special City Council Meeting July 10, 2023 Part 2 of 2) Partial transcript

Recording's title: Special City Council Meeting July 10, 2023 Part 2 of 2 · Date: 2023-07-10 · Open this recording

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ultimately the proposal that we put on the table there. But again, it is. And we'll take you back to that page if we need to. But she's going to take you through the staffing issues with particular focus on police and fire.
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‸ Okay. All right. So as Rebecca touched on earlier, we've had a large increase in turnover in our public safety department. This is just the number of positions that are people we lost this fiscal year, but there's actually more vacancies. There's a total of 14 total vacancies in the police department or police officers and four dispatchers.
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positions. So ‸ it's a big crisis because of the amount of overtime that our firefighters are having to work just to maintain minimum staffing levels. So, and that could put a strain on our budget and strain on the employees for working so many ‸ hours. So, um, basically there's a lot of positions that are considered hard to fill. Um, there's just less and less applicants applying that are qualified. So it makes your candidate pool very low.
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pay to a certain salary. Then it, some employees will just jump over a dollar an hour, you know, what have you, but, but really in public safety. Um, and I'll go over the pay in a minute.
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of the market. Um, and some of those was, we added a public safety high school program and we have two firefighters or two recruits now in the EMT program. And then they'll go to fire ‸ school. And then we have two, um, police officers that are starting the, um, law enforcement Academy. Um, we, we created a new campaign for the fire department, um, but we still needed to increase the pay. And we also started a new hire bonus for police officers. Um, we also increased like job fair participations.
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offers, you know, and they're still contingent upon, um, certain things, but just to try to move the applicants
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positions just because it was going to help increase the applicant flow.
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problem at Coco. This is a problem nationwide. Um, ‸ this is a snapshot of a, a survey, um,
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that was done by Mission Square, um, ICMA. And basically, um, what this is showing is policing is the top, um, hard to fill position right now in the country basically. So, and the data up there, the percentages are comparing at different years, the same survey and what positions are hard to fill. And so just a couple of them are highlighted, um, um, besides police that you got engineering and, um, IT and other like professional positions. So, so here's the survey for police officer wages. Um, so as you can see in fiscal year 22, we were kind of right at the top or almost ‸ the top. And then this year Palm Bay went to 50,000 and now everybody's basically trending to go to 50,000. Um, dispatchers it's kind of the same, um, Palm Bay did a huge jump in all their salaries. Like their school crossing
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at $17 an hour. So based on that, so it basically is a trickle effect going up. So
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salaries in one year. So, um, so we need to make changes to be competitive in the market. Um, here's the same, um, situation with fire.
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last year, the county made big adjustments, um, due to their fire assessment and, um,
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departments are talking about ‸ increasing it. Um, now if you take our hourly rate per hour, our hourly rate is actually higher than some, but most people just look at it on an annual basis. So even though they're working more hours at those other agencies, um, they're just looking at ‸ as the annual salary. And,
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so we're definitely behind. So now keep in mind, uh, all wages need to be bargained, um, with the collective bargaining union.
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the budget. Um, adding in things like pension costs and stuff like that to try to get a total budget picture.
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can, um, fill our vacancies. And these are just some of the suggestions that we have.
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all of them, you have to recognize the equity of the people that are already here. So we have, um, different proposals to get people adjustments that are, um, current employees that have tenure.
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And just for clarification, we were doing that for the police officers.
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And then the fire, um, one suggestion was to just add a certain dollar amount to everybody where everybody's dollar per hour goes up a certain amount. So,
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31 with again, equity, uh, adjustments for the existing officers. Um, and so Tammy, correct me if I'm wrong. They, they basically maintain their relative position in the new pay range as they are in the current pay range.
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Yeah. The terms considered, um, range penetration. So whatever percent into the current pay plan, they would move that same percent into the new pay plan.
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And we do, we do the same for, uh, the dispatchers with setting a new minimum and then the existing
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that they actually raised,
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the 375 for, um, for the existing staff and then the new, uh, minimum maximums there.
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I have a question city manager. Yes. Would
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375 be across the board for fire, uh, to prevent, uh, compression, pay compression?
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Yes. Um, and like I said, this is just the proposal that we're, we're.
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Well, this is, this is going to be, unless you tell me differently, you know, this is going to be the proposal
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the city manager's balanced budget proposal. Again, as I, as I, as I said earlier, the, the, the,
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half a mil increase funds both police and fire public safety proposals there. So that, that would be the proposal.
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they're, they're maintaining their relative positions within the pay range and, and the compression,
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If that goes through that would fund
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for fiscal year 24, uh, would it be possible? ‸ I can say if everything went through and they could possibly do an MOU so that way they can advertise and start getting firefighters in.
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Yeah, we, we, we, that's, you know, remember you have tentative millage, which is July 25th and you have two budget hearings after that, you know, and so, so the extent to which we can actually,
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from you guys, um, at the 25th is, is again, I mean, it's, it's a little premature, but
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we'd
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have to actually, uh, advertise an intent or something because again, everybody's out there, um, raising their pay,
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police and the fire side, you know, again, what we haven't said was that, that, uh, ‸ half a mill increase requires a unanimous vote of the city council. Correct. And so, so we, we, we probably should have said that earlier, but to actually do this from new recurring revenue sources that IE that half a mill millage rate increase requires a unanimous vote of the city council.
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Correct. And as we, I think it was stated at the beginning,
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and police. Correct.
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is,
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this is dedicated directly to those pay increases. Gotcha. All right.
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How
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we, because it seems like we're all chasing the salaries here, like we'll raise it in the next year.
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mean, how do we have an issue for the whole county? Yeah.
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you sort of lead the market, um, and you get there and maybe you'll, you'll chase the market for a couple of years. But again, the eventually the firefighters gain tenure and they lock into the retirement system, they lock into, uh, the organization. I heard one of the firefighters say the organizational culture. And so again, there, they, they get to a point, you know, after having raised the minimums to something that's competitive, where it benefits them more to stay into the current system, retirement system, pay system that they're in, than it, than it, than it would to actually move from, uh, retirement pay systems from year to year.
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$1,600 a month. Uh, Sunrise Village has always been the lowest place to live in cocoa.
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$500
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of Florida.
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for the main example, I'll use Publix in cocoa, $4.96
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houses now for a hurricane. That's what's running the price and everything else. So, we need, we need to raise our safety for we keep our officers, the fire
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in the foot. Because, as they leave, people are paying them more money and it's harder for us to get more people in here.
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have a living wage where they can live comfortably and take a vacation with their family. Instead of, you know,
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And, you get to a point of working for somebody for a long period of time
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eight, ten years, you should be able to live a little comfortably so you can have more fun. because you've earned it. And I'm a firm believer in paying it to your employees. I did that in my business and everything I trained to work for other people. I made sure they made good wages. It's amazing how I got more productivity. The inequality is 100% best. What's,
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what's the current police officer minimum?
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is it?
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It's right here, 45.
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And then what's the, what's the minimum for?
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38,100.
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So we're, we're, we're trying to also bring those two minimums closer together under this proposal also. So, so it does that.
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Um, half a meal,
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So, Mr. City Manager, if I may. So, one of the biggest challenges that we're having right now is, if you look at the market, there's a ton of jobs that are out there. In fact,
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starting salary of $55,000 a year for a firefighter. So, if we don't do something to make our market more competitive here in the city, then we'll never keep experienced firefighters here to move up through the ranks. And one of the biggest shortages that we have is paramedics. You know, it's important for us to maintain paramedics in order for us to continue to provide advanced life support services. That's your cardiac drugs, your cardiac monitor, and the medics to be able to use that
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So, if we lose another officer, we lose another driver, it's really going to impact the services that we provide the community because we won't have enough paramedics to staff those units. If we do, that means we have to incur more overtime, causing these guys to work more than what they are now. We're seeing on average lieutenants and drivers ‸ working five days straight at 24 hours a day away from their family. That's huge. It's unsafe. It's unsafe to the community. It's unsafe to our firefighters. So, we've got to be able to be in that market, be competitive, not with just the smaller departments close to us, but even with some of the ones away from us, that's where we're seeing a lot of our firefighters ‸ go is they're not moving to departments within Brevard County. They're moving to departments outside of Brevard County.
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as we were talking about budget preparation. And for me, I think in order for us to make an impact, start getting those paramedics to apply, start getting those quality firefighters to apply and stay. You're going to have to take that minimum salary up to at least $50,000 a year and stay ‸ competitive like we are with the other organizations. Again, if you look in the state of Florida, most starting salaries for police officers and firefighters is within a couple of thousand dollars of each other. Right now, you've got a starting firefighter making $38,000 a year. $38,000 a year. My son works at Ace Hardware in Vieira. He makes more than our starting firefighter. That's shameful.
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I also wanted to add another pending legislative item is the
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required under a state statute to pay $15 an hour. And so, that's why you're seeing ‸ rising
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everywhere.
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it's one reason why for inflation because, you know, it's harder to hire, you know, somebody at McDonald's, you know, so they have to raise all of their, you know, wages to keep up with the statute.
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positions ‸ going up the chain, you know, basically.
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Okay. ‸ Okay.
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‸ Councilman,
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like we're chasing salaries, which it may appear that way. But for a long time, especially in fire, there's been raise or pay freezes. So, a lot of departments haven't seen raises in a long time.
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they are providers of,
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uh, there was a bill, federal bill, if you provide, uh, certain services.
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Medicare services. Correct. So,
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they were forced to come up. So, I think we're at a, you will see a point where those salaries, you know, we ‸ won't be chasing. It's just, they've been neglected for so long.
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So,
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‸ Yeah.
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So, that, that, that, I mean, and again, we've talked about it primarily, um, the various slides in the day that, that would be the proposal for, uh, ‸ first responders. Um, again, and, and,
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you know,
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know, would like to, to be at 50, ‸ like to be at, at higher, but, um, you know, the math of it worked out to where we, the 375 and then 46 and some change.
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And that's a 22% increase in the minimum
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fire.
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Yeah. And then I don't know what it averages out for the existing firefighters,
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375. But again, we merely took, uh, their proposal. Actually, I invited myself into the meeting where I actually got, uh, an insight into their proposal. So, um, um, so I don't know what that averaged out. Maybe Rebecca can tell us what that averaged out percentage-wise for the existing
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firefighters.
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What'd you say?
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The pay,
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no way.
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Well, why'd you recommend the 375?
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But you're good with the 375. Well, she's looking at, she's, we ran it on, on everybody, uh, Sam. But it, I mean, it's regardless of what the percentage is,
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375 per hour. Yeah. So, so, I mean, I don't want to get bogged down in the percentages, but it's, it's the, again, it's 375 per hour. Um,
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Okay.
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Not my meeting, um, Mr. Redmond.
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I
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Um, we need to fill out cards. We probably should.
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I,
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I would think.
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Come to the podium.
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sir. Come on up. Just make sure we get
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the cards filled out.
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can tell Monica the names.
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Identify yourself, please, sir. I'm the district fire chief.
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Teamsters,
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district chiefs. I just want to get a clarification on Councilman Hearn's, uh, question as far as it being across the board increase, um, because it only reflects firefighter drivers and lieutenants in the, uh,
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slide. Yeah, no. So it's, it's that's, that's correct. We're, we're currently in negotiations with the district chiefs. Okay. So it currently this would proposal would not be across the board. It's it's for firefighters, drivers, lieutenants. Okay. Thank you.
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So just to quantify the 375 an hour where this came from, instead of doing a 20% across the board raise, which would benefit the senior guys who've been here for 30 years and do nothing for the guys at the bottom because at 1476 an hour,
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those guys are
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That's not what we're trying to do. We're actually making a sacrifice here as far as the senior guys so that the lower level guys will get a larger percentage raise at the bottom.
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Whereas we've got guys who've been here for 30 years. It's maybe 12%.
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So that's the idea. That's, that's where the 375 came from. The idea is we're not, we're not looking to make amends here. To go with what councilman dial said, it's not even looking to go on vacations.
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three.
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I've been here for 16 years. I can't afford to live in the city and I love this city. I got lucky 20 years ago. I bought a house that I'm still sitting on. No one else is going to have that luxury. And I understand it's tied to millage. I get it. I pay taxes for the city of Titusville. ‸ It's terrible, but I don't think anything negative of any council person who raises taxes for something like this. You know, you guys aren't
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the citizens they serve. And ‸ that's all I'm asking is, you know, we've got a lot of guys here. We're short nine people. It's everyone's just stressed out. We're tired. We're beat down. But we're willing to do the job. You know, it's going to get done no matter what.
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Thank you. Thank
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So.
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Yes, sir.
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You want to say something before I turn it over? Well,
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his question may, I mean, across the board. Yeah, this is for firefighters, drivers, lieutenants. And when you say it doesn't, it's not across the board.
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It would be the three district chiefs, assistant chief, and then the chief. So, so it is the majority of the department for the 375.
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We got it at 0.5. How much can we play with that? Like 5.8, 6.0, 5.6. And that way we can give them a little buffer more. Yeah,
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you can have a good time as long as,
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a unanimous vote. Yeah. Well.
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Key word there, unanimous.
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Look. Even if you did the quarter, a quarter percent.
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You can go up, if you went up a quarter, if you only went up a quarter, you still needed a unanimous vote. But
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I'm talking like 5.8 ‸ or 6.6 instead of 0.5.
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$4.
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that, uh, you know, that's not gonna ‸ add a whole lot.
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go in, in larger increments than that. But again, key, key being, uh, the vote requirement.
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um,
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well, it's a safety, it's a safety issue. It's a whole entire safety issue. Okay. And if you don't, if you don't take care of safety, you're gonna ‸ have anarchy. And that's, I don't want to live in a town like that. Okay.
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All right. Quick question. Miss, um, phone the mail, and city manager, and city attorney. If we do not get
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just asking, um, so I'm assuming a super majority vote would not.
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No, sir. Even to maintain the millage rate that we have right now, we would need a super majority. So anything above the current millage is a unanimous vote.
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Did y'all hear that? Say something, give me a high. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
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councilman calls.
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Yes. And the millage rate increase is on top of the property value increase. That's correct.
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Significantly. So, um, keep in mind when you get your tax bill, it not only includes the millage increase, it includes that 14.
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Well, well, let me, let me just clarify. There's a difference between save our homes and, and new construction.
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by whatever the index is. And so, and so
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there.
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you're protected by save our homes, which, which, which only allows your property to be reassessed or to go up a certain percentage each year. And then new construction are those things that are, that were not on the tax roll the previous years. That's where the big percentage increase comes from.
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reassessment percentage was or is? Uh,
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just on the property values?
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Yeah.
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No,
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percent increases.
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So, um, okay.
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And so the, the, looking at a home that might have a value of $300,000 doing a half a mill increase would be about $150 increase to their property taxes.
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And so if that home was there on the tax roll,
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then that.
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We were right over here with you in reference of
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I think she was wrapping
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All right.
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Jack, Jack's next.
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Okay.
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Yeah, so this, this slide actually was taken from my slides just because it made sense. I think since we're talking about paying benefits to bring it into the, into the HR discussion. So, uh, and, and so Stockton asked me to, you know, to include, you know, trends and issues and concerns and of course, pay compensation for utilities. Employees are just as
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as well. I have a lot of things up there, but really, we just want to be competitive in the market.
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You know, when you look at the job titles and descriptions and what Coco's paying on the right versus what some of the other utilities are paying on the left.
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because we had gotten way out of market.
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had the same kind of challenges maybe that you're facing today with fire and police.
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a long way with helping keeping us competitive. But where we are seeing the deviation, just like what Tammy had said was in engineering and some of the more technical trades. So as you move away from the maintenance worker and up to kind of the food chain for the more, uh, harder to get in the higher technical positions, we start drifting away quickly. In the previous meeting we had met and talked about engineers specifically.
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won't go over all that again. Uh,
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you know, 5.5 and 8.6 increases in CPI. Are really hurting people. And when you, when you do it year over year, because the 8% compounds the 5%, it becomes 14% to the employee. Uh, just since we did our last major increase major
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So as, as I expressed in chambers in our previous meeting, um, my request certainly is not only to make a pay increase, but to make the pay to the, to the actual listed range.
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Now we'd go to the departmental presentations and, and we'd actually, and Mr. Mayor,
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need to get to police, fire, utilities, and public works for sure. Um, so again, following that same, uh, format that we, uh, previously outlined, uh, ‸ police department will start this section off.
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All right. Good afternoon, everyone. Good afternoon. All right. So I,
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promise you, I won't be as long as Rob beach was, but, uh, we'll get right to it and get to the point to talk about the, the, uh, concerns that we have for the police department.
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of the premier law enforcement agencies agencies in the country. And in order to do that, you got to have the best people. We got to hire the best. We got to make sure that we train the best and we got to make sure we have the best equipment.
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Our mission statement here, the Cocoa police department, community first promoting partnerships and demonstrating excellence. That's that's that that's in line with everything we do with our agency and our priorities for us is recruitment, retention, training, officer wellness and technology. So I'll kind of touch on some of that as I go through this presentation here. This shows you how organization is structured.
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That's his, uh, area of responsibility here. In 2022, we have about 38,000 calls to service and calls to serve to continue to increase. And we have to make sure we continue to provide the proper service to the community. And
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but I just want to kind of give you just some meat and potatoes to kind of give you an idea of how busy these officers are. And
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them to do more with less and they're going out there every day, putting everything on the line and they're still getting
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job done because they were still able to help get crime. Uh, we had a reduction in crime, uh, last year. You know, we have over a hundred thousand vehicles passed through our city. We had almost a thousand traffic crashes and we had seven fatalities, unfortunately. So this is our staffing levels now.
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One frozen. We have 14 vacancies, but the biggest vacancies happened over the last couple of months where we lost about six officers
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people.
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as a $10,000 bonus, almost $15,000 just to go next door.
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That's with all the events that we do throughout the year. And it's just a rough estimate over 182 special events that took place in 2022. Just show you how busy, um, we are. So here's, here's a breakdown, uh, of the budget. ‸ We're looking for an increase ‸ about 1.3 million. Um, the biggest significant, uh, increase. Would be when you look at capital in 2023,
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Uh, we were able to, uh, purchase about four vehicles through the ARPA fund. So we use grant money in order to purchase vehicles when, you know, we have to make sure that we're replacing vehicles in time and fashion. I'm going to go
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more details about the vehicles in just a second, but that's kind of the biggest hit when you start talking about where's this money going and what are the needs?
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that and, and radios.
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we'll talk about that in a couple of minutes. And again,
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the, the pay numbers are not included in those numbers. Correct.
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Yeah. So in personnel service, that 264,000, that would be a 3% pay increase. Is that right?
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Yes.
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So these equipment that we need here, and I'm not going to get into detail. I mean,
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but these are things that we actually need. This for rapid IDs. And basically it's a, it's like a fingerprint system that when also come in contact with an individual on the streets, they can run these prints and get information on the person right away. So that's a big safety concern for us. So we can get people identified ‸ very quickly, uh, to get some of these, uh, residents that don't need to be in our community off the streets right away, as opposed to just not sure who they are. We do a little contact information on them. We let them go.
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So, um, that equipment is very needed. Uh, the, the, uh, four vests for our SWAT team. Uh,
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Uh, so these vests are very important because they can handle, uh, uh, high power rifle type shot. Now I'm not the expert on that.
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to ask Markika, commander Markika on that.
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that one, but, uh, we, we definitely need those, uh, vests for that. The, the, uh, the other ballistic vests there, we're, we're looking at, we're applying for a grant. So we may get those vests for a grant, but this, that's for anticipated employees that we're hiring.
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got to have a vest for them. Uh, so those that 25,000, almost $26,000, we should be able to get a grant for that, but we just need to put that up there ‸ budget for that. But, but we are applying for a grant for that. Um,
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That, that ticket writer software is, is that a mobile handheld for each officer or?
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Yes, that, that ticket writers that what they have that in their vehicles, right? That's right.
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It's not for every officer
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How many?
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only about
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How many officers?
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obviously that's a reduction there because we have about, you know, 50 officers in patrol. So, but you don't currently have electronic ticket writing software. Yeah.
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about
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Yeah.
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‸ So we have eight already. Let's get another eight. Okay. Okay, gotcha. Which we would need about 50. Okay. Uh,
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That's a GPS tracking for all our vehicles.
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of the police department, you come into our kitchen
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been there since 1990. What was that? 1999. 1999.
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go up in our showers upstairs that, that dispatches offices, anybody come and use. Uh, you'll see that they're in need of a major work over. I mean, that's been years since they've even done anything those areas and it really needs to be redone. And plus we need to come ADA compliant, uh, for individuals that have, uh, those disabilities. So that $82,000 will help us pay for
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get the kitchens, the bathroom and also become ADA compliant with our agency.
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Um, yeah, so
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to talk about the, um, the, uh, issues with our vehicles.
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Chief, everything, everything you've shown over the last couple of slides, those are in the budget requests. Those are, those are in the requests. He's
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got 12 in the budget.
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Okay.
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Yeah. Between marked and
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Yeah. That's right. So eight here, that's eight marked and then, um, four unmarked. So a total of 12
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vehicles. I just want to make sure the council understand these are items that I'm placing in the balanced budget proposal.
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Then the, um, the consoles, uh, the, uh, $300,000 for the, uh, P25 replacement radios.
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Now that we're making a request and then the, uh, P25 radio replacement,
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40 mobile radios. And I'm going to more detail about some of the
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we have with those. That's about $284,000. Okay. So here, here's some of the challenges that we have. So just recently, last couple of months, we had about six police officers that I just mentioned that, uh, went and worked for Palm Bay. So they were able to get up to about $15,000 just to go over there and get hired, you know, to include the, uh, the signing bonus that they'll get. So we
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make sure that
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aggressively being competitive and make our salaries very competitive.
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Do
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do we know the average tenure? The last couple
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of officers that left had less than three and a half, four years on. So with the, uh, the rails, which we had talked about on the last slide, the P25
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then we have to have them
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Currently we have three consoles, 114 portables and 96 mobile radios for a total of 210.
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radios and 40 more mobile radios. This will leave us with about
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So we need to get those radios replaced. The cost ‸ is what it is. And, and, um, it's just what we are.
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able to communicate. This is not a, maybe can we get it? We can, we have to get these radios.
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Well, I can tell you, prior to me getting here, just talking to my staff, there was years that the police department did not have vehicles replaced. And I know since I've been here, the city manager, I know he was able to find funding elsewhere ‸ to start replacing vehicles just prior to my arrival. And since then, um he has been successful in helping us get some additional vehicles. So we have to be aggressive. If not, we'll be kicking that can down the road. And instead of needing 46 vehicles uh by 2024, you're going to probably need a way more than that. So uh we got to have these vehicles because we want to have the best equipment for our officers. So another thing we do here is that we continue to develop our staff. We send our leaders to command level courses to make them the best of the best. Obviously, with higher tech and training requirements cause you know you have to have additional training for your staff. So we believe in training. Training is a big thing for our agency.
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uh
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Staff and all other departments have become easily poaching targets due to lower salaries. I mean, we just talked about it with Palm Bay successfully uh recruiting some of our officers. And
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in this area. We want the best. We got to pay them. I mean, these officers ‸ doing more with less.
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And it's easy to talk about what we're going to do for these officers, but it's nothing like doing it. And I think it'll be a great thing for this city uh because if not, i mean let's look at the reality. You know, we were able to get crime down the last couple of years or so. That
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how we respond to fire I'm not talking about me from a police
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I'm talking about the firefighters. You're going to have issues with crime. that That inevitably will happen. So the officers can only do so much, but they're being very proactive, working their butts off. let's just Just keep it frank. to Just to make it happen here in this city. So that millage rate would be greatly appreciated
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to make sure that we pay our staff the way they need to be paid. Any questions?
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um As you stated, one of the biggest concerns with the pd police department was the salaries. We lost officers to Palm Bay. And uh there was rumors out there. ‸ was for other reasons, but clearly it was for salary. um When you talk about Palm Bay, it's one of the largest cities in the state. And I'm glad you
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you mentioned other reasons because I i mean, this this is called it what it is. You know, I mean, when you look at oh let me answer your question, ‸ then I'll jump on my soapbox. The uh
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central Florida. uh and We've talked, I think, uh incorporating uh from basically
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on the south. So, so it's a huge city with a huge tax base. Correct.
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So i uh even with that said, they still have their shortcomings with their budget. But uh most importantly, we're going to address this issue with our officers as we are doing with our firefighters. um Just understand the challenges there. uh
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competing ‸ and uh it's going to take some, it's going to take some brave uh uh steps for us as a council to take in order to address that. And I hope we all, we all uh come together and make that step. uh Make sure our firefighters and our police officers are paid well as what they are deserved. So,
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uh
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included in the proposal that you made. Yeah, he just
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I had them put this back up and
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um you know, this is just a comparable where people will be starting October 1 if I'm not mistaken. Yes. um and, and this is, you know, a conversation that I had
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you know, I mean, people, agencies are going to that 50, uh and I'm just making the comparable in county, you know, I mean, he, he knows he has to go to 50 to be competitive. um We're all sort of chasing Palm Bay and eventually we'll all be chasing the uh the sheriff's office. you know And so and so that that just seems to be where everybody's going. you know Whether you like the police chief or not, um you know the facts of the matter are that Palm Bay is poaching from a whole lot more people than just the city of uh
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it's primarily those officers that that are not long tenured, that um are flexible in terms of retirement plans and their ability to to go for the for the higher pay and the bonuses there. And so just wanted ‸ to again show you guys the the comparable where everybody will be um in in uh at the beginning of the next coming fiscal year.
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and we And we lost, I think, two dispatchers to Palm Bay too. Is that correct?
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One.
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Or one to Palm Bay.
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So um so if you don't have any more questions for ‸ Chief
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I know we have some uh massive increases in a lot of different cities.
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of time. um I know some of the people that left from the pump PD um had two or three years or four years, whatever it was,
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we consider or have we have you considered doing those like a small bonuses um and the same I know for me personally, if I know in three or four years, and this I got one more year left
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Knowing that you know I gotta buy kids and Christmas, you know
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I just don't believe that this is ‸ for our county ‸ Right.
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So with police officers, we have union negotiation coming up pretty soon. So that's something that uh we'll be open to talking with the officers about to see what they feel would be good as far as um whether you just mentioned bonuses, anything like that, that will keep them here long term. Well, we did,
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what we did now we've done we've done bonuses for new hires, both police and fire.
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so for paramedics.
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And we're paying paramedic school directly for employees. And
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then what about police? We
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did new hire bonuses for police and dispatch. Yeah,
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and so, and so, ‸ we have those
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one time,
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time deal, you know. um so,
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annual pay increase.
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I, I know the middle of this conversation, that's, that's something I ‸ know we gotta have uh I guess
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down for it.
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um but I also know that we have to, enlighten and encourage and educate our residents on what we're doing. And why we're doing it. ‸ Same way that, the school board did when they kind of went around to every city. ‸ I think we need to have a video. We need to have something that explains to them what this means. because at the end of the day, you got some people that just cannot afford, you might say a hundred, hundred dollar increase or ‸ twenty dollar increase. You know, what for grandma, it's a little bit different, because she's on a fixed income.
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people will be willing to pay additional. I think us as a city,
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why we're doing it. And
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paying more. but again, we still have a lot of citizens inside of
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means in some cases, in some cases.
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And, ‸ we would, we would do that and again, remember that in the city, uh half, nearly half of the, uh of
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and so not really income based it's a value of sort of property base there. So, but we, we, we, that, that, ‸ that's a part of an education campaign also, you know, ‸ so, so we would absolutely be committed to doing
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and so do we know what our uh what revenues will be bringing in, a real estate tax
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that comes over from the property
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so we we received the
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but
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last year it was what, seven?
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tax revenues
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um
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to uh Councilman
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point, the, um do we know what the statistic is for how many people are on fixed income?
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you. um and then what, what is the percentage of, I'm just saying, and it's really the property on both rentals. What is the number of rentals in the city? ‸ percentage wise.
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Again, I don't know the wrong number, but, um it's considerable. Right.
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So, so, so the point that I'm saying we have ‸ We're
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not getting taxes on it.
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We're not getting taxes on those properties. Thank
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yeah So,
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so what's the remedy to that? okay
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Well, I would leave that to the development people. I'll
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take care
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of the numbers. Good for her.
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‸ hey,
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well, no, no,
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must go through her finances. So she sees both pros and cons. And through, like we stated, development both commercial and subdivisions. uh Large subdivisions so that we can uh slowly diminish from the utilities and really stand on our own. That's where we're at. And if we do not have that, if we don't entice businesses, which they are coming, and we have futuristic growth coming, um we'll be dealing with the same issue several years down the road. So my thing is is to to stop kicking the can and just really examine this can so that we can um be prepared for the future. That's that's my assessment. we got to go, ladies and gentlemen. we got
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Okay. um
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to the community, if we raise the millage rate, um something also we have to communicate that we do is we we know we have better days coming ahead in regards to our tax base. uh We always have the option to to roll back the millage rate as things get better. So that's always an option as well. So going up, it's not concrete. We don't have to stay there. We do have that option to come down. so You're nice. Yeah, but that's
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growth comes in. sir
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Yeah, so so I just want to add just from the numbers that we see from the police department. uh When you start talking about growth. So as you saw, we we have a vacancy of 14 officers. Our calls have increased
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that we're having. So
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And I'm sure
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seeing that on the fire department end as well.
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to want to work here and stay here. And we got to make sure we're compensating them so we can you kick this thing down
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what were uh Yeah. Yeah.
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A few weeks ago in council, I said our budget for 2030 is going to be around 60 million.
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If you look at the graph, I didn't talk to these people. I did my own numbers.
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people. So
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the money in place to take care of all this in 2030. My prediction is going to be
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in this city. So that's more firefighters, more police officers, more services,
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everything that'll be around.
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we're now on the fire department presentation. Thank
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you, Mr. Mayor. ‸ So basically the mission of the fire department is to provide fire
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with the city of
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which is serving our community with pride. So our firefighter and EMS response mission is to exceed the expectations of excellence in fire protection and inspection community risk reduction, promote ‸ positive recruitment practices and enhance retention, remain focused on department infrastructure needs consistent with the NFPA, which is the National Fire Protection Association, and then prioritize our training capabilities and facilities for future development. Our emergency management mission is to enhance the overall delivery of emergency management consistent with an all hazards approach, enhance public education and community risk reduction and emergency management activities, and complete what's called a community risk assessment or ‸ CRA to better serve our community. community So this is an overlook at our budget and uh kind of where we were at. If you look at 2023, we're
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just looking to see if you're paying attention.
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so
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um with that increase you know one of the things i want
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about the fire assessment fee they said currently if we continue the trend of increasing
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didn't take into account with that is we actually have a number one three different funds that's just looking at fire operations not looking at fire administration or the emergency management funds that we are also in charge of
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we pay for for the fire stations that comes out of that fire assessment fee so after you take all that out there's really not three million dollars to fund ‸ the overall fire department's operations budget
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that our funds not only come from the general fund and the fire assessment or the general fund but they also come from the fire assessment fee also so it's a lot less than
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our budget that's covered by the fire assessment
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000 increase. Some of that we'll talk about as we go further on and
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So here's some of the increases, again, getting in line with the P25 compliance by 2024. We added a new piece of equipment this year. So in order to keep in that compliance, we'll need six additional radios to go with that. uh Our thermal imaging cameras have reached their end of life. We can no longer get those cameras serviced. uh That's an important piece of equipment on our primary apparatus that help us identify where victims are at inside of a smoke charged structure or even side of a an active structure fire
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Our brush trucks are more than 36 years old. These were actually hand-me-down trucks that we got that was given to the Division of Forestry from the United States Military. Forestry then turned around and basically loaned them out to departments all across the state of Florida to use a brush trucks. They have reached their end of life service and the Department of Forestry is no longer doing that program because it's so hard to get the equipment to actually keep them running, replace them. So right now, just to give you an idea of what that means for our organization,
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and come in and find any brush fires that we have because we currently have no brush trucks.
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of them's been there for a little over six months. The other one's been there for three months trying to find parks to get them back up and running. So we have no what's called wildland capabilities at this point within our organization. We're totally reliant upon Brevard County Fire Rescue. And then the next line item is actually for both police and fire. Brevard County issued out to all the municipalities that are on the 800 system that we use to communicate for EMS and fire needs. At one time, basically what's called an impact fee, but
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uh That's
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fee. Now
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That's not just for fire, that's for both departments.
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And so if you if you look at just the the fiscal impact uh next year of the P25 radio compliance issue uh
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just to become, uh to get on the road to compliance with P25. um And so again, that's a that's a huge hit uh in the next fiscal year's budget.
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And to that point, Mr. City Manager, that doesn't even complete the purchase of all the radios that they need. So we know next year there's going to be somewhere around a half a million dollars more in radios that we need to buy. And
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that's why I said get on the road to to be incoming compliant, you know, because that doesn't, again, that doesn't get you there. You got to
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there's
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we spent last year and then
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So just some huge hits in terms of um new expenses in in the upcoming fiscal year budget.
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and even with that, the longer we wait to actually do that, the further in line will be. So if
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come up to compliance, uh you figure
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That's just counting fire departments, not talking police, all that. So if we all have to come into compliance, the longer we wait to come into compliance with the supply chain issues that are going on that we're seeing with just normal day-to-day stuff that we need, it'll put us even that much further out depending on how long we wait to actually say we're going to put the funding toward it. If we wait until the middle of 2024 to say, okay, we'll put the funding toward it and actually purchase those radios,
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So talking about some of the trends and concerns, much like you've heard most throughout the day, recruitment and retention is one of our biggest ones. Our pays too low to interest candidates to apply. We currently have eight open ‸ positions. uh We have an additional request for seven additional positions in the fiscal year 2024 budget. Just to kind of give you an idea of what that looks like,
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on 6 15 We had 18 candidates that we actually called to come in to do interviews. Out of the 18, only five candidates actually showed up to do an interview and test. Out of those five, only three passed. One decided and he wasn't going to come because the pay was too low. One failed their drug test, and then one actually started today. He was standing in the back of the room, but he's not here. He already found a higher paying job and left. Dang it. But uh the young man just actually started today. So
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including uh the seven additional positions that we're asking for. uh Currently, as of this morning, our 2023 overtime cost is 367 311
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So when you look at that,
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And we still have the rest of July, August, and September to go to. so basically our overtime budget will be a half a million dollars is my prediction by the time we hit october 1.
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updates just in uh last year we ran 6 109 calls We
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to the increase in population and also the increase in building growth.
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housing market and the way it is. We talked about a lot of that that's
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So that's going to be a lot more demand on our equipment, a lot more demand on our firefighters as they're working more hours, a lot more call volume. So we're also seeing a huge increase in cost for equipment and supplies. uh ‸ Really hoping that the supply chain would have changed and turned once
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A lot of companies and manufacturers are finding it very hard to find employees. So it's causing us to see a backup and getting materials and supplies and things that we need. Consistent with current trends in the market, supply and demand, costly vendor pass-through, which is um inflating impacts on what we're buying.
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provide ALS services. We've seen an increase of almost
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on ALS drugs that's passed through back to us as we purchase those. A lot of end of life and support for outdated equipment that we need to have purchased. Again, talking about what uh ‸ police chief brought up, we've continued to kick that can down the road to where at we're at a point now that we're not critical. We're actually past the critical point. Brush trucks that are 36 years old, thermal imaging cameras that we can no longer get repaired or don't function, so
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reserve engines, so when we do up staff during hurricanes, we just don't have enough equipment to put on those trucks to safely protect not only our citizens, but the men and women that are protecting our citizens within the city.
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um as you can see, you know, we're seeing a lot of increase in cost uh
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But one of the biggest things that I talked about earlier is when we talked about salary.
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someone will get hurt in the fire department.
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to where we're at a point now our men and women are working five days straight, 24-hour shifts in a row. That is unsafe. Your mental capacity, your capacity to spend time with your family, do the things that you need to do to step away from a high risk job is not there.
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of the needs of not only our citizens, but take care of the needs of our firefighters. So, I would just ask you to please, I understand where we're at in the budget process. I understand that nobody likes to have their taxes raised. But honestly, do you want to be standing before a family member of one of your own employees because we didn't provide them the adequate amount of rest or equipment or staffing and someone gets killed? I don't want to be there. I will not be there by myself. No fire chief looks at that. So, there are some really crucial, crucial staffing issues in public safety as a whole.
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And as we continue
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years that I've been here, the housing market, the industry side of it that's growing, we have not kept up with that demand. When I talk about how many positions we have open, let me just explain it to you maybe in a little easier way to understand. We have three shifts,
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A, B, and a C shift. With us missing nine people, that's an entire shift. An entire shift of firefighters that we've basically lost. We've got to retain what we've got, but then we've got to bring in the best talent. Rob mentioned it to you earlier. What are your expectations? What do you want to be known for
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That we just have big red trucks that are nice driving up and down the road? Or that we have the best quality, best paid firefighters, not only here in the city, but in the state of Florida? I'm going to go with the last one. That's what I want. That's what I want to see us do and provide ‸ our community. So I would just ask you to please take a good hard look at that. And let's do the right thing for our
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did lose and we're trying to fill those positions. Is that consistent to what PD has experienced to pay
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Yeah, ours is strictly 100 pay. I mean, that's all it is. If you went back, I know Lauren just left, but
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that left, that took the time to fill it out, almost 99 of them said it's pay. I mean,
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is not going to find anywhere close in the city or outside the city where they
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able to live on what they're currently being paid. It's just impossible. It's absolutely impossible for them. So um we've lost some really good firefighters, some excellent firefighters to other departments that are smaller than ours. Some that are larger than ours, but a majority that are just as the same size as we are are smaller than ours all over ‸ pay So when you look at that and you go, man, what could we have done to keep those men or women here? You know, that's experience walking out the door. They stay here two or three years. They're getting that experience and they're going to other departments because they've got that experience where if our pay would have been different, they would have probably stayed. They would have stayed here. ‸ when you have to work three or four jobs just to maintain enough of income to pay your rent, I mean, that's not feasible for some of those men and women. it just You can't sustain a life that way and have a family on top of it.
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There's a lot of pressure. And
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be important,
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but also along with that perception. So where we're spending money,
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that isn't needed, we need to be aware of that as well. because um
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will be several hundred this year. I
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last year. And it sounds like the next year we're going to be looking at the same things. So so perception is important in the decisions we make.
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In addition to, it's part of the educational campaign. We're spending your money
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perception.
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You know, and so you know this is designed to talk about any line item in the budget we gave you guys the ‸ complete line item requests for all of the departments. And I think they're ready to answer those sort of questions. We've asked them to look at their budgets to make reductions in their budgets there. They've done that.
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You know we we're a small organization. You know, but we we're willing to look at any any expenditure that you have a question on
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expenditure that anybody has a question on.
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do that they can explain or give you give you a justification for for having that expenditure ‸ there. And so we're prepared to do that again. You know, we I mean thousands of pages in the line item budget there. So don't expect that that you actually you would have actually gone through it in a significant detail. But but take a look at that. Ask us questions because we're prepared to answer those questions.
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up there.
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Uh, chair, I take a motion
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Hometown,
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Yes, sir. Mr.
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right,
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Let's
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Okay. All
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So
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obviously, it's to provide present and future generations with our services for drinking and wastewater and reclaimed services. I'm going to go fairly quickly because I know that we've got a lot of other things to go for each of the different divisions have their own mission statement as well because they all provide different things. The sellers plant really just primarily is our create treat and store and pump reclaim water that that's truly becomes its mission. And
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And then the other program that comes out of that department is the fats, oils and greases program where we go by and inspect and talk to people who have businesses so that we can minimize what goes into the waste stream. On the
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the dial side, it's kind of the same mission, but it's chemically treating instead of biologically treating. And
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And we want to, of course, do that while we are compliant with all regulations. And
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we want to make sure that we're going to be able to do that in the next few weeks.
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Field operations, obviously, there's a lot to go on that's going on here. I tried to hit all the highlights, but from maintaining and repairing the potable water lines and valves, hydrogen flow testing programs, meter testing line locations, valve turning and fire line testing. Our heavy equipment maintenance and ‸ metal fabrication occurs in our division as well, as well as our backflow installation and testing programs all fall within that one division. No,
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go to like a like a like a commercial building where we have the fire line. We
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Field
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They install reclaim meters. We also manage our slip lining and manhole lining program. And if you're not familiar with what that was, that's the where we try to coat the insides of the pipe and the inside of the manholes to keep the stormwater and the groundwater ‸ out so that we only treat wastewater. Field operations, sewer side. I'm
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Yeah. Sorry. Engineering. So a lot of services going on here as well. Manage and plan. Certainly our capital construction program. We do inspection services for private developments that eventually become the utility and the city property. We
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We provide customer service support for new meters, fees and permits that are necessary. We
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ourselves and for our customers as well as we maintain all project records as
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Yes,
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mean,
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actually, it was our system to begin with. So I think it's, it's shared. It's a shared platform. We also share two of the employees.
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side and the utility side.
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Yeah, we work together. The databases are updated. And if we were to improve our ERP, that would allow better exchange of information right now. It's
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So, let's, let's get into the budget. So this is the overall. Sorry, here's my. Here we go. Here's my overall budget on the personal side. We had a 1.2 million dollar increase in our personal services, our 3.2 million dollar increase on our operating our capital equipment. And again, capital equipment can vary from year to year, depending on the projects that are initiated
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things that go on in that other count for a total of 2.4 million dollars by roll everything up together. It's about a 2
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request for 2024. And just as a reminder, as you know, all of our funding comes from charges for services in the form of rates and fees. So
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primarily under the personal services,
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salaries, insurance, force, retirement, ‸ medical. And that is as listed in our current requested budget was. And
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is already is already in there under operating and I broke that down. These are really the primary drivers
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truck stock, copper fittings, everything that goes on the trucks and our hydrant hydrant maintenance and hydrant painting
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those items. Those
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just those 5 items. Other uses just to understand what's in other uses again, it's a cost for for our transfer for services. And our, I'm sorry, our transfer for our return on investment, our cost of services, and then our capital projects and
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with reduction in capital. And the reason why is because it's listed as an expense under admin and then it comes up and it does the 424 account. So
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Yeah. It's accounting. But I want to say that, you know, but. It just makes it just a little weird. But that that's what constitutes those changes. So I could go through and I'm going to go through each of these just again. I wanted to show you the major drivers in each of the component departments. So each department had an increase in personal services. If
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If it was smaller for the smaller departments.
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didn't. But Taylor Creek. That's just the increase in the, in the cost of access to the reservoir. Just that line item alone. Under
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And of course,
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So when you offset the whole thing and add it together. It, it kind of looks a little odd because I'm adding the admin division to the other services, because that's how it comes up in your budget. So
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So it shows up
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of changes in capital. Under the dial plan again, increase in personal services. We actually overestimated some water and sewer costs from the previous year. So we had a pretty good, a pretty good offsetting reduction in electrical. However, we had the same kind of offsetting increase in our Duke energy contract since we had Duke energy come in basically install brand new generators tier 4 rated for us that we needed for backup power. At no cost to us, but we had to pay for a 10 year service contract. So if you met those 2 together,
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order to get that reliability that we need to provide the water. Repair maintenance was a reduction chemicals. I think we've already mentioned this division was 1.1. And I listed it as 1.2 because the other division also had an increase in chemicals and that'll come up on their slide later. And
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So comparing it to the whole budget about a 1.3 million dollar net change to the budget, which is about an 8% increase increase. Under field operations. Again, personal services up repair maintenance. I mentioned about the hydrants and or the truck stock and copper and all the fittings, 20, 30% increases on all that stuff has driven that
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Assuming we do the same number of repairs may generally fall within a range that's fairly predictable. That's
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Fuel
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It was a little bit of an overestimate in that division. Again, going by the estimated cost of fuel primarily we were a little higher than we actually burned. And
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We
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some it related operating expenses fairly small, ‸ but critical the laptop replacements. And then, of course, two major items in machinery equipment, which is really a capital item or vehicle replacements and then the water test bench. And
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25 years old. We test them for accuracy. So it's extremely important that that we keep that bench working and functioning properly so that we ‸ give our customers the most correct information. Total budget in and out. It's about a 1.3 million dollar increase to the operations division. And that's about a 13% increase from the previous year's budget. Engineering again, personal services are relatively small number of people in that division. So it's fairly small number. But engineering services. So this is a new lead and copper compliance. We have we've been working on it actually for the last 2 years. We have additional expenses for this year and for next year and in future years. And then we also have a membrane technology study that we need to complete for next year. That is those 2 items that constitute that 900,000 dollars. Infrastructure again, just based on projects is
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Relative to the total budget. About a 12% increase for 456,000 dollars. It adds up fast.
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sellers plant again increases in services operating supplies were up with relatively small chemicals or another 111,000. So
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That's the 1.2 million.
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were talking about originally in the overall slide. And
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Of course, we had some induction. We had a 100,000 dollar dump truck that we purchased this year that we will not need to purchase next year. And so that creates a, again, a large decrease in capital. So, relative to the
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6.7% increase in ‸ budget. SFO,
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Again, personal services up fuel, oil, lubricants down again, for the same reasons and in machinery equipment. Again, some vehicles we purchased in 23,
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And so we have some reduction and some offset there. So, there's was
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So, kind of transitioning to kind of trends and concerns. Since
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It's really just an overview. This is ‸ as of July 1st. And it's,
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think it's 7 or 8 employees, but that's about 20% of your workforce. It's about the same for us. We've been running about 20% for a while. And in some areas more critical than others, you know, the engineering division is. Is
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already heard from the divisions about personnel and compensation. It's critical that we try to get those numbers a little bit higher. My
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And so we all talked about that actually earlier in the day, the Friday road and the Osage Angelica are the equivalent of. A,
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If you want to use your language depends on what you want to call it. And so I'm going to just give you a quick example. ‸ What's going on in capital. So we originally had budgeted the influence pump station and some work at
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The current budget as of last year and into this year's budget was 9 million. The current that I just got like 2
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design and going to do that that delivery project using the
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Is
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So, so this is what's happening. So the projects listed under effects are what's being deferred. Because I
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And actually, those are all the projects since the project started because you add them
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So I basically, we line up all of our critical projects. We try to run up the risk and the likelihood we try to fund all the projects in that order. But even then, even with those projects that we know have to be done, something else is going to is going to create a ripple in the pond. This is a compliance issue. I
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it's
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We've already identified it, but we have to get it done and I have to fund it. So as much as I need the clarifier improvements and the ozone generators
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dial and some other things, I have to do that project and I only have about a year and a half to get it done. So. And then the
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extensions that need to go to serve those projects. That was the original estimate. I don't think we're going to see it for 2.7 million. So I don't know yet, but it will, you know, we're going to find out here shortly. And again, that's another one where we have a developer's agreement. So I have to fund it. I don't have a choice. Those, those services have to be extended to that project. Yes, ma'am.
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Do we have like impact fees to pay for earnings?
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I mean, we have an impact fee designation for dollars, but, but, um,
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to provide those services to the developer.
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At the rate payers. At
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the utilities city's expense. It was, it was a deal that was cut 25 years ago when Barrera Shores came in with Terry Hagan, uh, as the developer. And he was negotiating this,
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I think it was a, uh, a mall and some other stuff that was really supposed to be there if I remember. Right. Um,
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on, and this is what developers do really well. As they put pressure on ‸ utilities and other cities to say, well, I could bring this project to X and they're
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how, how business is often done. Um,
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the water sewer and reclaim extensions to it.
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So, um, to add to that, there is a separate fund for impact fees and the impact fees can only be used for system expansion. There's about two to $3 million in there right now. Normally we budget every single year to use our impact fees fees to pay for debt service on the utility debt. Um,
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new construction that he's talking about.
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You don't need it for utility
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debt. But
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they didn't pay
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for it to Jack's point.
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don't need it
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for utility debt because you paid off some, something early or?
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Um, we have enough, what, what we budget for to collect covers the debt, some of the debt service payments.
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And Jack, this is, you said a developer's agreement. This is the Barrera Shores or this is? Yeah, this is
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the, uh, I guess they call it now the stipulated settlement agreement. Yeah,
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was the engineer associated with that project
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So
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originally started as a
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Yeah,
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get permission to try to come to the city.
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That's why you have the air right now.
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Yeah,
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we already have all the permits to go underneath 528 for Friday road. So that permit with DOT and the train is good. Uh, I have, um, basically, uh,
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plans as of like a week ago from the county for Angelica Osage. So we're actually working with finance to get the, uh, the check cut for the permitting fee, which will probably be this week. It'll
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that damage would be. And
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currently I can defer in order to make up the missing dollars above and beyond what's already in the budget. So.
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‸ Okay.
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have a question. Okay. Councilwoman calls. Yeah. Okay. Without
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getting too far the budget conversation. So that pipeline is going to come from across 528 where the bright
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One pipe will go there. The water line, there's an existing water line at the end of Friday road. It will extend across the open property, which is going to be the south part of that property. And then it'll eventually go underneath 528. It'll serve the north side, which is the bright line piece, the piece they still retain. You'll actually continue all the way up north up into south
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because that's where our other 12
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And so it'll give me a major connection crossing underneath 528 up US one to give me more than one way to get water up to the basically everybody north of 528. So it's
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it's getting in, it also extends all three utilities from us one all the way over to that
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extend those services all the way across.
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That street will
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But I was looking at the property and I saw other besides the bright line property, there's another parcel over there as well.
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Yeah.
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there's not bright lines. So it's built on the north end. Yeah.
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that.
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towards 95. Bree's
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That's on the east side of it.
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North, north of
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bright line property. Right.
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325,
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So the next trend or concern or issue
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simply just, and I've mentioned this maybe before, but I'll, the words talking about again is the declining,
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water use declining while connections continue to increase. So you might have seen this chart before. It's been updated through 2022 of this year, of last year, at least complete year of, of, of, of total volume of water. So
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And you can see the trend line is declining down. We were at about 8.6 billion gallons back in 2008, 2009 when I got here. And
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we were over a billion gallons less every year on average while our connections in ‸ gold continue to go up. So we had about, oh, I forget how many connections we had, uh, 35 or so thousand when I started. And now we're almost, we're just shy of 90,000, about 89,000 connections. That's good. So we have more people connecting to our system, which is a good thing.
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Um,
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Conservation.
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Right. Conservation and all, you know, there's lots, lots of reasons why. So the per capita use is going down, which is a good thing from an environmental standpoint, but from a rate standpoint ‸ makes it very challenging because all of a sudden some, you know, I still have the same infrastructure, same capital investments, same, same fixed costs that need to be dealt with. Yeah. They're all, and then they're going up. So thought I'd share that with you and make sure we drive that point home that it, it continually puts pressure on rates. Continue. Forget all the other slides I just showed you. That alone will continue to put pressure on rates until it changes. Selling less water.
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Even though more people are moving too. I mean, the era, I'm expecting some more. Look at,
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look at the blue, look at the blue. Everything that's happened in the last just five years, it hasn't gone.
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Washing machines used to be. Right. 20,
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Yeah.
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‸ Toilets.
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Toilets. Yeah. Hold
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That's all. Is
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Uh, reclaim is actually steady. Yeah. Because we don't have a lot of growth in the sewer and therefore we're not seeing a lot of change or a lot of growth in, in reclaim.
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You know,
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the last item, um, we talked about advanced water treatment compliance in 2025. Uh, that's coming in a couple of different forms. Uh, but primarily the discharge from the, from the, uh, wastewater treatment plant has to be advanced water treatment compliant by July of 2025. And so there's a number of capital projects that have to be completed prior to that date to ensure that we meet compliance ‸ period. Um,
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Um, in 2024, we have to have a, basically an action plan. And we also have to have our database that, that has an inventory of all of our service lines and their materials by customer. That's required.
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Uh, I thought you told me we have advanced water
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treatment.
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We do. We, we are considered advanced water treatment by the types of treatment that we provide, but becoming advanced water treatment by definition of what the state approved for the state of Florida is different.
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And it includes more ozonation?
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No, no. It,
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simply just states that your phosphorus and nitrogen and so on have to meet a certain level of discharge period. ‸ Even though we have a, we have a wet weather discharge permit that allows us to discharge the river when we do. They're saying that the water
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Indian river lagoon cannot exceed those requirements. And in order to do that, the daily water or daily, basically daily discharges have to be more strictly controlled for their phosphorus and nitrogen discharge. And
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which is another part, part of the, part of
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I think that's it. So I think I just want to say maybe just piggybacking on everybody, everything that everybody else said, I think, I
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numbers together and make tough decisions. And looking at the sea of red shirts that were in here earlier and the people there obviously have great concern, but I want to remind you just a definition that I was taught about. I
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a long time ago was accomplishing your mission and taking care of your people. And so all the slides that we're showing you all have great missions and different priorities that you have to filter. But, but it's critical that you don't forget about the employee or, or, you know, or even leave those employees behind because they are an essential part of accomplishing that mission. And, and, and success in accomplishing a mission or a individual project in ‸ the city limits is a failure if, if the people aren't taken care of or if we're still having difficulties with our retention and, and
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just being competitive in general.
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And, and,
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Oh absolutely, yes. That's why I've
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incomes.
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That's all I have.
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Well, I've got a couple of, you know where I'll stand on that issue. Okay, who's next, Mrs. Morgan? Yes. Morgan. Yes.
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Great job, sir. And ma'am.
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The public works
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and efficient maintenance, construction and operation of its environment. If it's physical environment. Public works has seven divisions, streets, stormwater fleet, facilities, parks and beautification, administration, and the capital projects division. All divisions work together as a team to accomplish the overall mission of the department. our
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total budget increase request for streets division is just over $67,000. The majority of the budget request is approximately 61,000 for operating funds and a budget increase request of just under 6,000 for personnel services. The major increases are 31,000 for electric water and sewer. This is due to the increases in utility services and just over 17,000 for repairs and maintenance. This
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solar pedestrian crossing signs and $3,950 for training. There are more stringent regulations in place regarding the process to obtain a commercial driver's license. Applicants submitting for a CDL license need to prove they were trained by a state-certified CDL trainer. Previously, this was performed in-house. This increase would be to pay for the training. Parks and Beautification maintains 23 parks, including passive areas, ‸ road medians, and rights
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The division maintains and mows approximately 2,000 acres of green space and 14.5 acres of state road rights of
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For this division, there is a budget increase request of $40,000 for capital funds. The major increases are $82,500 for contract services. This is for cemetery maintenance to include maintenance, headstone maintenance, headstone cleaning, grave
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for operating supplies. This is due to an increase in equipment and chemical costs and an increase in uniform services. And
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earlier, this increased request is due to a rule change in CDL testing requirements. And $40,000 for
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‸ The fleet management division services over 381 vehicles from automobiles to heavy equipment. The division also supports and manages 94 pieces of equipment and trailers. The total budget increase request for fleet division is approximately $33,000. The majority of the budget request is for personnel services and a budget increase request of approximately 5,000 for operating funds. The majority increase for personnel services is approximately $28,000. We have had challenges recruiting qualified ‸ technicians. This is due to a shortage of available qualified technicians.
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Abby,
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Yeah. And so, again, that's another ‸ example of everybody's poaching. And I think these gentlemen actually came close to
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Yeah, yeah, Space Center. Okay. Keep going there.
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My computer's freezing up. All right. So, a fleet concern is the utility service truck. This vehicle is fleets primary and only roadside assistance vehicle. The vehicle is 18 years old, has over 200,000 miles, and over 10,000 hours of operation. The repair maintenance cost of the service truck to date is approximately $40,000. The purchase price for the new truck is just under $51,000.
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And Rebecca and Laura, that's in the proposal, right? Yes. Okay.
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an existing franchise agreement with waste management. The cost increase for services is based on the contract. The annual pricing adjustment is 3%, typically. The facilities division provides in-house maintenance and repairs of all public buildings and facilities, including electrical, carpentry, plumbing, painting, and ventilation systems. Facility maintenance also provides custodial services for all the city buildings. The total budget request for facilities is approximately 350,000. The budget increase request is for personnel services for operating funds and capital needs. The majority increases are about 21,000 for electric, water, and sewer, and just under 51,000 for repairs and maintenance of buildings. This is for new flooring in the Civic Center and Public Works. On
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request for the replacement of the roll-up
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at Fleet. $22,000 for ‸ outlets at the downtown lights, for the downtown lights, and $91,000 for the replacement of a 14-ton condensing unit
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PD, replacement of a mini-split unit at City Hall, and a standby generator for the clinic.
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and I'll just draw your attention to the standby generator for ‸ the clinic.
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know, when, when there's a storm coming or when the power goes out, we literally have to, uh,
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pack up all the meds. I'm
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and move it to some place where there is power, where there is refrigeration, and so we have an employee doing an encroaching storm who has to go to the clinic and, and, and move the medicine, you know, and so, and so again, you know, things like that just don't need to happen, and so that's part of the, the larger picture of, of emphasizing, uh, capital.
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Okay. Um, a facilities division concern is a need for a van with a bucket lift system. The vehicle is the primary lift system for ongoing maintenance and repairs of city building exteriors, street lights, and canopy lighting throughout the downtown area. The vehicle is 14 years old. There
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parts sourcing for the van. The repair maintenance
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for the current van to date is approximately $55,000. It has
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new van is approximately $67,000. The capital projects division provides project management and design support services. Give
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me one second, Abby on this one. Is
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Okay.
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And design support services for the city's capital improvements program. The division is also responsible for managing and monitoring numerous contracts for the city, including
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There is a budget decrease of just under $25,000 for operating funds and a budget increase request of a little over $9,000 for personnel services. The stormwater division maintains 87 acres of stormwater ponds in the city, over 2,300 stormwater structures, 565 manholes, 5 miles of ditches, 65 miles of stormwater pipe, and every year we sweep approximately 2,000 miles of city streets. The total budget decrease is just under $450,000 for the stormwater division. There is a budget increase of approximately $40,000 for operating funds and a budget decrease of approximately $97,000 for capital funds. The
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obtaining grant funding in the past two years. Grants typically require city match ‸ funding. Construction costs for these projects are not immune to inflation from the original project cost estimates. Undoubtedly, escalating prices will drive construction costs up. The
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This will result in minimal capital activity in the upcoming years to replenish the fund balance.
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‸ The next meeting you'll have an agenda item on that particular project, but that was built into the FAMS model that Stantec had. So if you go back and look at the slides, you see the drop in the fund balance because of this project that she's talking about.
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in the room there because we have that issue of coming up with the match for that. And we have the issue of the Broadmoor Acres Fisk project there and actually not only coming up with the match for that, but whether or not there will be enough budgeted dollars coming from the feds for that. So, so I don't know, Abby, do you recall what the deficit is on the Broadmoor Acres project?
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The original agreement was for 770,000 and now they're requesting 1.3 million.
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say that they've already said that it's still a feasible project at the escalated project amount? They have not advised us whether or not they're going to fund that elevated or escalated project amount. And so what do you do with the competing interest for the two projects there? You have the Indian River which only raises the road about?
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Maximum. Anywhere from 4 to 6 inches. So
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4 to 6 inches and then you have the Broadmoor Acres which is the generational flooding issue.
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right about the same amount in terms of project deficit and a project match. And
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Go ahead, Dick.
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that's also
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waiting
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on? Yes. With utilities,
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roads, roadway improvements and water main upgrades.
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go back and forth.
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Yeah. Well, again, on the FEMA, remember we've gone out two times. We got, we got a bid that was over the budgeted amount and then we got another bid from the same
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over that budgeted amount. And so, and
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even at the higher bid amount, it's still a feasible project, economically feasible project. They've just not advised us as to whether or not they're going to fund that deficit. And so they say, yeah, it's still a good project. Good
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‸ Then, then the question is the 1.6 that's in the reserves there. We
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of years after that.
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it's that whole entire ‸ community is taking a beating because of this holdout. Uh, you still have to stormwater issues and then just the appearance, uh, that road is, it needs to be done. But like, you know,
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So, you know, to me, I,
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my book. I'd go with that on more acres.
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We have seen some significant impacts on just ‸ what public works did outside of that HMGP grant. Cause if you remember during Irma and Matthew, we actually rode that area and there were houses that were two to three foot under water. I heard that same area during the cold and you can see where they cleaned out some of the retention ponds, just the proactive measures that they've done. That water is not maintaining and staying on there. So there have been some significant impacts as far as the flood planning and being concerned with that, but there's still a lot more to go. So it's not like
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just sitting on it and it's not
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impact.
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I just know,
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that neighborhood that can't even go up for repavement as well until this is addressed.
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we'll be tearing it right back up. So that's, that's one of the, the eyesores of the city, in my opinion, I
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done? Like, that's probably one of the biggest things that's partial, ‸ my district, partial, your district. And that's one of the biggest complaints we always hear. So I don't know how we're going to get there, but it needs to be addressed. We've been patient for some years now, since I came on council, I believe that projects have been in the works. Okay.
[02:13:09] Speaker 1
Yeah. And
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a discussion item for tomorrow.
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week, next,
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25th. Okay. So, so again, that, that we'll be talking about this on the 25th, but those, those are, you know,
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Yeah,
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that's, that's the scenario.
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And that's also an example of the free money is out there for the grants, but you need to have the money to be able to meet the match. And with the rising costs of everything, you need to be able to come up with that money when you are awarded the grant, because you don't want to look bad to the grant or saying thanks anyway, but we decided not to do it because they could have allocated that money to someone else. Yes. And
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Yeah. So, um, I would tend to agree with you. The Indian river drive project, whereas
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to six inches, is not going to accomplish much given that the prediction is for ‸ a foot in sea level rise by 2030. So, it may even call for a different kind of solution. But does that mean that we couldn't do a baffle box there? Um,
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In fact, the, the, the project, um, design, uh, it provides the installation of two baffle boxes. It's incorporated in the design. So, we, we, we could just perform that aspect of the design.
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And the other thing I was going
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gotten rid of the match in some cases. So,
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but, um, I would be hopeful that there would be grant monies that could be applied. Certainly, you know, from the sorrel monies or from the National Estuary Program.
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Do
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that's coming. That's coming. I
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the item is up for discussion on the 25th, and that's, that's asking go or no go on the, uh, on the Indian river. And so, obviously, if it's a no go, then, then that money will be allocated to whatever we need for, uh, Broadmoor Acres. Again, again, just to be clear, FEMA
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aspect of the Broadmoor Acres Project.
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the, uh, actual site plans on that, sent to our email? On, on which one? On
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So, I, I just want to see what it, what it entails.
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design? Yeah, at least the design. Maybe not the full documents, but...
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Well, at the moment, we only have 30% design. So, we're about to receive the 60, so when we receive that, we can share that. Okay,
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it doesn't provide a lot of detail, the 30% place. Oh, okay. It doesn't provide elevations or anything like that.
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Do, do you know if it included some sort of
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Nine inch curve.
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toe, toe wall. Yeah,
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you can only
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guess my quick, well, it won't be answered today, but I just don't understand why, why would the engineer design it to that, to that grade or that four inches, six inches, whatever it is, if it's not going to be adequate to fix the issue or the problem?
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Because there are elevation constraints, there's homes that are actually lower than the roadway, so it would impact those homes.
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flood out homes. Yeah.
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That's 22. I got you.
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[02:18:00] Speaker 1
Well, it's just engineering stuff, but you can have it. We need FEMA to come through on that one.
[02:18:17] Speaker 11
Alright, ‸ so these are trends, issues and concerns. They're not for stormwater, they're actually overall. So facilities has been given more responsibilities over the past two years, with no additional staffing support. The current budget cannot keep up with requested level of service. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, prices for new vehicles increased 11.4% over the last year, with no relief projected. The public works divisions operate the oldest vehicles in Cocoa Fleet at an average age of 13 years. At
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and maintenance costs. There has been
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And then as Councilman Goins mentioned, the $300,000 budget for paving is insufficient to keep up with the city repaving plan. According to the pavement assessment performed in 2015, network condition deterioration is expected to continue if the funding level remains 300,000 annually. An increase in annual funding to approximately $1 million is necessary in order to stabilize the network at the current conditions.
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Hey Mitch,
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we go back real quick
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to the first budget, the facilities budget trends slash
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Oh.
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The facilities. The facilities budget major increases? No, issues, concerns.
[02:20:55] Speaker 1
Yes, thank you. And so this is again, as we talk about justifying requests, expenses, or expenditures. This is what I think, you know, this example happens to be a van, but this is I think the sort of justification that I think each and every director can give you because, again, we're not just saying, give us a new van, we're giving you the history, the history that's in the system. He's
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And again, it's used by the electricians. Parts are hard to come by. Obviously, they need a bucket lift system that works. We
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spent 54 on it for maintenance and repair. And it's almost down half the time, you know. And so, and so
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justified. Our requests can be justified and reasonable and sound justification. And again,
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just wanted to, to point this out as, as sort of an example of that. ‸ You can go to admin services,
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Javani.
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All right. Well, my presentation should be pretty brief. The smallest department in the city. So it's just an overview of our apartment that includes the city clerks division and the human resources division. And highlights some of the main responsibilities of each division, which I'm sure y'all are aware of. So, um, city clerk is, um, our city, our records custodian ‸ and maintains all of our records under the retention schedules. Um, they run all of our city council meetings, agendas, or also serve as a passport agency, um, and certified to, to do that. Um,
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um, and they also, um, supervise the city elections. Um, HR, um, we, we have almost 500 employees. We also run benefits for our retirees. So, um, there's a lot of, um,
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with our benefit plans. And we have multiple pension plans. It's very, um, comprehensive administration, um, ‸ running our city benefits. And, um, we're responsible for all labor and employee relations. So if
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employee, um, say files a complaint or, um, say we have to do an investigation, um, we would be handling that internally for HR or ‸ for the city. Um,
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just recently added an onboarding software to help streamline the onboarding process to make it less manual. Um,
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Um, when people think the city has deep pockets, those complaints come in our department and we handle it. And so we'll go out and we have a safety manager and he'll go out and, um, take pictures. Or sometimes we work a lot with public works and other departments to document, um, what happened and fix, say, if it's a water meter lid or something like that. Um,
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make sure that it gets taken care of. So we don't have as much liability. Um, like I said, we have over a hundred retirees that we support, um, through different, um, benefit plans as well. So, like I said, our budget's fairly small.
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Um, the increase this year was, um, mainly, um, just ‸ really minimal. It was just basically salaries and benefits. Um, this is just because HR's budget ‸ so small.
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lot of things we budget for is on a citywide, um, budget such as, uh, legal expenses. Um, this year we added, um, we increased hours at the health center, which added $35,000, um, to the budget. We,
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compliant with a lot of our safety training, like CPR and things like that. And so we're working to get compliance in that and to build a better, um, system to track the compliance. Um, and then we also added in the budget to sponsor employees for paramedic school. That's a really big accomplishment and because there's a shortage of paramedics. So
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paramedic school right now. So. Which
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legal expenses, now I know that doesn't pay for Christine.
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That
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is that a different, what is the legal? Yeah.
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So we, if say
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like that. Um, well, I'm sorry, that would be covered
[02:26:21] Speaker 6
under a leak, but
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like labor issues. Um,
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Okay. Non-retainer items. And we do, we, we save a lot of money, uh, under our insurance, FMIT, they have free legal services. And we try to utilize that as much as possible to save on, um, city expenses. So,
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So.
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And then Rebecca touched on the pension earlier and the property insurance. Um, we're actually hiring a consultant to help us with the property insurance, um, because it's such a big, um, issue right now. So. And, and then next I have, um, a couple of slides about city council's budget.
[02:27:16] Speaker 9
Yes. Please let the record reflect that we are the most economically efficient department. Budgeting
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Yeah. And so who's personnel services? Well, that's where you're definitely not us.
[02:27:33] Speaker 2
Well, that's where your salary and benefits are paid out of that line. And
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a couple things in the budget. Um, so this year, um,
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this is just some of the things that, um, we budget for like the league of cities monthly meetings and the, um, um, different conferences. Um, promotion. So, um, the city clerk's office is the one that's gonna, ‸ if we do a key to the city or plaque or any kind of recognition to say constituent that gets requested. So Carrie's office works to, you know, to pay for the plaque, you know, and so those are the things that are budgeted for promotions. Um, and we, we do budget for a special election and the need that there is one, um, that just something that they put in the budget, um, for the advertisement of that. And then our membership. So league of cities, um, mainly is
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[02:29:03] Speaker 2
So we budget a thousand per member on the donation policy and, um,
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meet the criteria. ‸ So these are just, um, just overall increases in, in y'all's budget for city council. Um, actually the postage and freight, we decided to move it to the general fund account, the
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Um, and we added the national league of cities conference, um, travel and training.
[02:29:36] Speaker 6
So that's just for one person.
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Yeah. And that's it. If you have any questions.
[02:29:46] Speaker 10
Yeah. Can
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Salary. Oh, for the personnel services. Yeah.
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So,
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[02:30:02] Speaker 10
All right. I know that we, I don't feel this council should get paid the same amount in a city that neighbors us.
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Um,
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this, but you know, when I've
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other council members, especially the one that neighbors us and I find out that they're making the same amount. I don't believe, I believe you
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more work in than a lot of other councils that I've seen. Um, I don't know if that's a conversation y'all would like to have. Um, well, I would love to have that conversation.
[02:30:49] Speaker 7
One simple thing is in basically 68 hours minimum wage is what is right now. We're
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Real simple. Yeah. Then somebody like Morgan and
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an RV. But yeah, or I do about a hundred, you know, just reading the emails, all the stuff, the League of Cities and all the stuff, reading all that and the information you get in your phone. You're tied up for probably, I'm going to say 30 hours in a month because it's every day. That's not counting the other stuff we get from people that are upset with
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You got to respond or call them up and all that. So you're spending about 60 to 65 hours a month just on your phone, not counting the functions we have to do.
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[02:31:42] Speaker 7
this is the cheapest I ever worked in my entire life. Yeah. I made more money
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didn't pick on this task. Exactly. The other thing, I think we get insurance benefits for us. Am I correct? So that's the trade off. I know, but hey, hey, certainly. That's my thing. Of course,
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wouldn't want to get a pay increase? I
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[02:32:20] Speaker 9
the public right now to be straightforward with you. Councilman, your point is very valid, especially if we're talking about if we get a unanimous vote
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[02:32:33] Speaker 9
of safety. I get it. Don't get me wrong. I get it. And you're right. ‸ As many as many public events like everyone else that we attend, ‸ probably like six cents on the dollar.
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[02:32:48] Speaker 9
they go on to what we really do pay. But
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‸ You're right. You're right. I
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‸ But
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I mean, I don't know what
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incentives they could entice with us. I don't know. But
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is what it is, you know. Yeah,
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mean, I look,
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I don't have an issue with that. I mean, I do a lot of things for free. But a lot of times, you put in a lot of work.
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Yeah. It's like 40 hours a week sometimes.
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You're responsible
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for, along with the city manager, on a major decisions that impact the community as well. So I'm not saying you get paid just as much as Pompey would because Pompey has a hundred, some odd thousand people. Totally different world. But I know I shouldn't be getting paid the same amount of Rockledge. And that's for a fact. And I always thought it. And I know others think it. They
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But I'm always the bad guy. So
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anybody else got a problem. You're
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[02:34:25] Speaker 9 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I mean, you just identify something that is a fact. But, you know, ‸ flip side of it is like I said, I don't know if the other municipalities ‸ provide health insurance
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coverage for them too as
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well.
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Rockledge
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have health insurance for their councils.
[02:34:41] Speaker 9
Right. And no, ‸ very valid
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so don't get me wrong. But at the end of the day, because I can recall former council members did not have insurance. Nope. And they used
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city council's insurance. And I get it. Trust
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Yes ma'am.
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Just
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on the plus side, if you raise the incentive for being council member, you might generate more candidates. You know, and have a more robust qualifications. But I don't think in a year
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that.
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ago, gave himself a pay raise and charges more taxes? No, no. Yeah, I think that's what they did.
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did.
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a tax break a few
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years
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ago. I said eight years ago, eight, nine years ago. I remember Congress doing that.
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I think it's a good conversation. Just the optics of it, especially right now when we're talking about a military increase. But we continue this conversation later. I would even be interested
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it on a ballot. It has to go on. Yeah,
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gotta,
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I know
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what citizens tell me every day, like they can't believe how ‸ active we as a council have been, ‸ especially the past three years. People
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how you, you know, able to maintain, you know, myself and, you know, my priorities outside of council. But, you know, as the mayor said, we signed up for this, not for the money, but I would love to see what the voters have to say about it.
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I get a lot of great feedback on the work that we do put in. So I
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spot because due to day he's sitting here and he probably missed out
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$400 in his pocket.
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But if you guys want to continue that conversation at a later date,
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I wouldn't want to make that decision, but I would love
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have to say about it. ‸ And
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a newsweek letter, not newsweek letter, a quarterly letter. Yeah,
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maybe we could do a survey. That's a great idea. Yeah. It's
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‸ Personally, I'm going
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say it again. I
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timing, timing. I
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No,
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because I think when people see the difference of growth, the rate that we're growing, I think they understand. Just like when we were there at a former councilman or his wife, Lucinda Walden, several people. You were there too as well, Deputy Mayor. ‸ A multitude of people privately came over and said, if you continue to, I don't mind paying extra taxes on safety.
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request. And we do see a difference, but
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got to
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be
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competitive. It's hard. It's like voting on your own. Yeah.
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Come on. ‸ If you want me to keep it 100, I'll tell it to you now. If you want the truth. You know, that's hard. I mean, we frown on Congress in D.C. get some more money. You know, it's hard, man. I just, personally, I'm not going to
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dance with that one. But even if not the paid conversation, I still would love to see a survey on how council is performing. Because I know what I hear out in the community. And that's by numerous of people that were doing a good job. But I would love to see those numbers on what the community thought we were doing. You know, so we can make that happen. Good
[02:39:18] Speaker 9
point, man. Time. That's it. We secured Brightline, sir. We secured the expansion of Walmart, sir. We secured the growth and development
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I think then, sir. Yes, sir. Are
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Yes, sir. I think the people will see it and will say, yes, we are blah, blah, blah in support of
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is ‸ my assessment. I'm
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Pop
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You ate about nine pounds of chicken wings. Yeah.
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didn't
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chicken wings. I mean, chicken strips.
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back
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Speak
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yourself.
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I only have one piece.
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You're good, sir.
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All right. Anything else, Mr. Jumaadi? Because we have to ‸ dance and ‸ have to go to Melbourne. I
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Mayor,
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have one, two, three. Three. Actually, four because I don't see city managers, but I can give that to them. So,
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don't know how they want to proceed.
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know you.
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430. Okay. Because I
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that executive meeting in Melbourne, and we have to go to where? All the way where the little
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Melbourne
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Melbourne Beach? Yeah.
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Indiana,
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That's about 45 minutes because, you know, we have to go home and do the S's.
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going to
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shine your shoes. That
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No,
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So, um.
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do you want to do? I
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me say it this way. You, you guys have the tentative ‸ millage on July 25th. And then the first budget hearing is when?
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September.
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the slide. Yeah. September.
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So, so we could have another workshop after the 25th and finish up the rest of the departments and other things there. Now, obviously, you know, to make those big decisions there, again, the, the, the, the, we talk about the millage rate and being able to set it and come down off of what you said. And it's more difficult to, to, to do something different after you said it there, but we certainly could, could have, um, budget workshops after you set the tentative millage.
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Can
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You're saying have, have it in the morning or not in the morning.
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after lunch. That'd be great.
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We have community and economic development. We have finance. We have community services. We
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You don't want to knock one of them off.
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it'd
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of those, which one of those scores, ‸ the shorts.
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don't want to pick who's the winner on that. Uh,
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And she's got like four slides, which is pretty quick.
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Yeah. Yeah. But if I do it later, she, she can actually present. So yeah.
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That's
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true.
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Yeah. Charlene, you want to go or you want to wait?
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I have no problem going. You
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don't care, Rebecca?
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Let's roll. I can do this. Yeah.
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Thank
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Council. I'm going to go ahead and present to your community services department budget and trends and and challenges that we have. So the mission of community services department is committed to partnering with communities, families, individuals, businesses, developers, and nonprofit agencies to provide opportunities to a continuum of resources that
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We
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have the bill building permitting and licensing division, which is handles all of our building permits
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We
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and ship. We have our
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agency for diamond square. We have nine total staff within the department. Uh, six of which are through building and licensing and two housing and one C.R. A. Uh,
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Well, one staff
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So under the community services budget, I have seven different budgets that I manage throughout the ‸ year. Um, community services, which is our only general fund budget is primarily staffing personnel services and some small operating services. Uh, our
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funds. And then we have some housing and, uh, some C.R.A. staff that are under the community services general fund budget. Some of the activities that we have
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business tax receipt program fees and our staff salaries, uh, which are covered by not covered by the community services. Our
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We actually pay a fee to Brevard County for those B.T.R.s. Um,
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the 88 new businesses we established in FY 23. The, each of the districts that they were ‸ established in.
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about new restaurants and new businesses coming in. So, so we do, we do have, we have good activity. Um, you know,
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88 new businesses. That's pretty good. But this is current fiscal year.
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This is current fiscal year. Yeah.
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Yeah. So that's, that's a pretty good number.
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And our fiscal year is not, ‸ we still have three months left in the fiscal year. We
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as far as our establishing new businesses.
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that includes home based businesses and actual brick and mortar businesses. Okay.
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personnel services, and that's an increase, uh, from previous years, mostly because we did add a new, uh, inspector this past ‸ year. And so those, those are the staffing operation staffing concerns for that. Our operations is primarily the license or the licensing portion of it. Uh, ‸ there's not a lot of heavy equipment that we have to purchase. We just have some small operating expenses. Uh, ‸ the majority of that operating is, uh, relegated to training and materials that they have to purchase for the training purposes. Uh, each of the building, Florida building code books are around $2,000 each that we have to purchase for our staff. So that takes up a lot and we do need to have hard copies in office. I just wanted to give you a map of all of our building division activities that we have. You can see how they are, uh, throughout the entire city. So
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had over 3,600 inspections that have been conducted. Fees
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Our building permit fees were increased in FY23 to place the burden on the contractors and permit applicants and not on the general fund, not on the taxpayer. And so that's helping, uh, fund our staffing and fund the services that we need. The next group I want to talk about is our housing program services. So the first one is our community development block grant. So CDBG is our funding source that funds all of our, uh, nonprofit organizations that we grant funds to each year. And then we do, uh, several other services that are provided in that this coming year in FY24, our funds will be decreased by HUD. Uh,
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from HUD for our CDBG grant program. So our operating
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obviously had to decrease in order to do that. We went from,
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this year we have about $23,000 in assistance to our nonprofit organizations. Next year, we will have less than $20,000 available to fund that. The majority of our CDBG fund is, uh, that we receive our revenue is used to pay the section 108 loan, which is for the
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so that was an agreement as part of the section 108 loan that we would use CDBG dollars in order to pay back the, the loan from section 108 force. The Dr.
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And when will that be paid? ‸ Around
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2030,
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2032, somewhere in that. So we have about 10 years left. So because of the decrease in HUD dollars, our decreases in our grants and aids have obviously gone down as well for next year. The trends and challenges, uh, ‸ in 24, in 2023, we fund
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the Salvation Army. In 24, we are
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In addition to the three, we currently fund and the remaining CDBG dollars are used for our salaries, training and housing activities. Uh,
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must attend specific training in order to maintain our funding from CDBG home and ship. So they will, those are budgeted every year.
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Uh, in 2020, we received about $236,000 to support the local nonprofits ‸ for, uh, coronavirus assistance. To
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nonprofits. And those agencies that are, uh, spending those nonprofit, those dollars are family promise, central Brevard sharing center, community services, council and Salvation Army. And the funds will be continued to be expended through July of 2026. Our
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as
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We have to justify every dollar that we put for CDBG CV that it has to be coronavirus related. So we have to be able to get more creative as we get further away from the coronavirus itself. As far as that, uh, activity, even though, uh, COVID is still existence. We, we still are having challenges trying to, uh, justify some of those dollars. So we have to work really hard to make sure we justify the dollars as we go.
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So our next one is our home, um, housing grants. So our home is HUD dollars that are funded to Brevard County. And then Brevard County actually, uh, obligates the funds to four different cities, Palm
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are part of the housing consortium and we work together to fund programs and services throughout the county in order to help our communities improve and at risk homelessness, et cetera. Uh, our numbers are decreasing again, as HUD decrease the dollars to the county for those services for home,
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such that our services, our funds will be decreased as well. Uh,
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is we had rollover dollars from years of 2020 and 2021 that were left unspent. And so we are in the process of trying to spend every one of those dollars now to get us caught up to where we are not carrying forward as many dollars every year. Uh, we're trying to utilize those services as much as possible. So obviously our operating costs, uh, significantly decreased because of that. And again, our grants, we, we do have additional grants and aids that are our budget requests for this year. And, and that's because we were not using, uh, we were using our carry forward funds to fund a lot of projects. As I noted before, uh,
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24, because of the funding that was decreased to the county from HUD for the program. So
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program. So our first time home buyer
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buyers who are looking to purchase or build a home within the city of Cocoa. And
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subdivision. When those constructions, uh, start, uh, we will have CHI who will be working towards, uh, qualifying applicants who would like to build a home in the city of Cocoa and live in the city of Cocoa. Additionally, as part of our plan for housing, uh, we have a community housing development organization contract with CHI. And
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construction of either residential properties or nonprofit organization properties, uh, throughout, uh, the city. Um,
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uh, for my apologies. I just forgot her Barbie throwers, um, space coast recovery. And
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Our next one is our ship, which is our state housing initiative
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And this is the one thank you to the live local act and all of the support from our, uh, local constituents who went up to, to the state and asked for more money for, uh, local state housing. And
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so we're,
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We actually are receiving a larger increase in our funds for next year to do state housing initiatives. Now our state housing initiative trust fund. Is primarily used for rehab projects. So as, as was noted previously, uh, we have an aging population of our homes in the city of Cocoa. And with that, a lot of the property tax values of those homes that are 40, 50, 60 years old, uh, they're very low. And so, or they have no property taxes whatsoever, but they're also not well maintained. So what we will be doing with the ship dollars is working with those who qualify to try to do rehab programs with our, uh, residents here in Cocoa.
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we currently have 30 people on the wait list. We have worked over the last couple of years to, uh, get our wait list, uh, down to where it's a manageable number. We have been averaging, uh, several homes a year to, to work on those rehab projects. A
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And we're hoping with the $288,000 that we'll have for FY 24, that we'll be able to at least do seven homes next year. Uh, give or take that. But like I said, our rehab waiting list, uh, two
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Now that's through attrition, uh, people who move out of the area, uh, unfortunately people who passed away or people who no longer qualify financially.
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their income has increased above the threshold, we unfortunately cannot support that because we have to follow the,
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the state.
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That's part of the 359. We're
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uh, is there a cap per project?
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we have a
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approval to increase that cap. We did that twice last year for two projects that, uh, the, the work was so in, increased that, but beyond us, we
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it by seven, getting back to that roughly
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Correct. The next part is
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community redevelopment agencies. As you know, we have two community redevelopment agencies, the
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and the Diamond Square CRA,
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the map of our CRAs. So I'll first
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talk
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We have in our adopted budget for this year, $3,138,121.
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previous fiscal year. So that's not the true adopted budget as far as the ‸ total number is concerned. ‸ That's primarily rollover. Our
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COCO CRA is that is county
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have a CRA plan that mandates what we can and cannot spend our funds on. So the plan that we currently have tells us what projects we can work on. Because the agency has allocated and funds for potential projects in the future, we'll be doing the projects that those agency members have allocated. We have additional projects in regards to our grants and I'll talk about that in a few moments. The current plan and the current allocation projects we have for ‸ on street parking and village parking, our Lee Winter Park parking construction, lighting cameras and wayfinding and signage. That's in our 23 budget. We will hopefully be going out to bid for the Lee Winter Park parking construction soon. Expect
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year, we will have to budget again next year. I ‸ don't anticipate that cost for that construction to be at $1.5 million. I expect it to be closer to $3 million once we get the bid back. ‸ And we'll be rolling over this year's dollars for next year and trying to spend that. But that's the big project that the CRA currently has planned. And we'll be in the process of engaging with a consultant to do a plan update which will take us through 2041. And that plan update will allow us to set new priorities based on what we've already completed, which we've completed quite a number of projects that were in the original 2018 plan and be able to move us into 2041. Our Diamond Square CRA, ‸ we have the CRA plan that follows the update of 2014. And we have some pretty significant activities in 2023 that we'll carry forward into 2024. This is the first year that we've actually offered first time home buyer assistance for our families within the Diamond Square community. This will be primarily first time home buyer assistance for members who cannot qualify for the home funding based on the qualification. So at 80% AMI, if we have somebody who
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we can't help them with first time home buyer assistance. So this funding here for Diamond Square will help some of those people who just are above that ‸ threshold and we can ‸ still be able to help them. with that program. Our landscape and paint grants for residential homeowners has been extremely successful for the last couple of years. It has made a marked difference in Diamond Square. It's kind of like a snowball effect when one person on the street applies and is granted one of these grants. The rest of the neighborhood starts to jump on and ‸ get those same dollars. So it has really made a marked improvement in some of the streets in the neighborhood. We have some funds for park development and then the resurfacing of the stamp pavement and bus stop shelter.
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That's the one that we put in the year at King,
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2019?
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The pavement? Well, there's actually three pavements. There's actually three diamonds.
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one at Blake and Stone, and one at Washington and Stone. The
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And again, as
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be engaging with a consultant to conduct a plan update to take the CRA through 2032. The City is engaging the county in discussions to extend the sunset date of the agency to 2038. Yes. So the only thing that wasn't included, the budget for Diamond Square was left off of the, so I just wanted to talk a little bit about that. The Diamond Square budget is pretty much maintaining its budget for the next year. And because we have had property values increase a little bit in the Diamond Square community, we will be receiving additional dollars for our Diamond Square redevelopment area. And as ‸ a lot of people have talked about Diamond Square and the importance, in 1997, ‸ when the redevelopment agency was created, there was
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they've made substantial strides in improvements in that community based on what the agency members have worked towards ‸ and what Council has worked towards. So we are making a difference in that community, and we hope to continue making a difference. A
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on the
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100-year celebration of the Monroal School.
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concept. So
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process. They're
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the old Dr. Joey
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but the
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thought that they were only interested in one of the other ones.
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to six.
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There's two lots on Roselle right next to the apartments down there, close to Fisk, that we need to dispose of with an RFP. Those are diamond squares.
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We've also asked the county
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and turn that over to us tomorrow. Tomorrow.
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Once that happens, I'll be bringing back ‸ the property disposal list. And we're working towards getting that ready to put out for bid as well.
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And on the... On the... A
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is owned by Bell South. And
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talked
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[03:10:43] Speaker 5
Uh...
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Companies
[03:10:44] Speaker 5
about acquiring that. They
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[03:10:50] Speaker 5
So that's the lot on the corner of...
[03:10:54] Speaker 8
Orange.
[03:10:55] Speaker 5
Orange.
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And... Back? No. Um... Dula?
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So... So...
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[03:11:33] Speaker 5
Hmm... I think it actually is so
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good affordable
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I
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think that's it for us. Great job, ‸ City Manager and staff. Thank you very much. So
[03:12:05] Speaker 3
just to clarify that we proceed with the budget preparation with the half mil rate increase and the rate increases to stormwater fire utility fund. I think that's it.
[03:12:21] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Fire
[03:12:22] Speaker 3
assessment. Yeah.
[03:12:25] Speaker 9
Okay.
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Thank
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you. Motion on
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the floor. Second. Second. ‸ All in
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favor say hi. Special
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[03:12:47] Speaker 9
Get ready. That's
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[03:12:49] Speaker 9
Thank you.
[03:12:51] Speaker 15
Thank
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you.
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Thank
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you.

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