Board of Adjustment

Board of Adjustment Regular Meeting

Date: 2024-10-16
Status: Draft minutes and machine transcript available
Source: CivicClerk event #394

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What the City's record shows

Draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2025-01-15, pp. 8–10; approved as written by the Board of Adjustment according to the draft minutes of 2025-01-15, whose own approval is recorded in later draft minutes but not yet confirmed in the City's approved minutes. The City has not posted the approved minutes as a separate file. The approving motion, “to approve the January 15, 2025 Agenda as written and the October 16, 2024 Minutes as written”, is in the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2025-04-16 agenda packet (1783_Board_of_Adjustment.pdf, packet pp. 7–10).

Built only from this meeting's draft minutes (126_01_15_2025_BOA_Packet.pdf, packet pp. 8–10). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

Listed present when the roll was taken: Pam Shaia, Kaitlyn Aliano, Robert Butler, Robert Dyar, Dan Quattrocchi
(Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines; no independent membership list of this board is available to confirm that the roll is complete.)
Listed absent: none (the minutes record no absences)
Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Kristin Eick (Assistant City Attorney), Luci Ribeiro (City Planner), Lori Chabot (Recording Secretary)
Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Aliano, Butler, Dyar, Quattrocchi, Shaia (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (3)

to approve the October 16, 2024 Agenda as written and the September 18, 2024 Minutes as written (moved by Aliano, seconded by Butler); PASSED 5-0; ayes: Shaia, Aliano, Butler, Dyar, Quattrocchi; nays: none — the draft minutes, packet pp. 8–10
to Approve the Special Exception request to allow “a bar or lounge, with or without a package store” to operate a cigar lounge bar serving alcohol (moved by Dyar, seconded by Aliano); PASSED 5-0; ayes: Shaia, Dyar, Aliano, Quattrocchi, Butler; nays: none — the draft minutes, packet pp. 8–10
to adjourn the October 16, 2024 meeting (moved by Aliano, seconded by Quattrocchi); PASSED 5-0; ayes: Shaia, Aliano, Butler, Dyar, Quattrocchi; nays: none — the draft minutes, packet pp. 8–10

Draft minutes, as printed in a later agenda packet

Source: 126_01_15_2025_BOA_Packet.pdf, the agenda packet of the 2025-01-15 meeting, packet pp. 8–10; lines 200–299 of the City's text of that file. The packet's own page footers are left out below.

Read the draft minutes

MEETING MINUTES
October 16, 2024
A Regular meeting of the Board of Adjustment of the City of Cocoa was held on Wednesday, 
October 16, 2024 in the Council Chambers at 65 Stone Street, Cocoa, as publicly noticed.
I. OPENING MATTERS:
Chairperson Shaia called the meeting to order at 6:00pm.
The Recording Secretary called the roll.
ROLL CALL:
Pam Shaia Chairperson
Kaitlyn Aliano Board Member
Robert Butler Board Member
Robert Dyar Board Member
Dan Quattrocchi Board Member
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Pam Shaia Chairperson
Kaitlyn Aliano Board Member
Robert Butler Board Member
Robert Dyar Board Member
Dan Quattrocchi Board Member
MEMBERS ABSENT:
None
OTHERS PRESENT:
Kristin Eick Assistant City Attorney 
Luci Ribeiro City Planner
Lori Chabot Recording Secretary
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA & MINUTES:
Prior to the approval of the agenda and minutes, the Recording Secretary notified the 
board that a correction was made to the minutes.  On the last page regarding the Motion 


Board of Adjustment
Meeting Minutes
October 16, 2024
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to Adjourn, “Motion Passed Unanimously (5-0)” was corrected to say “Motion 
Passed Unanimously (3-0)”.
* Motion by Board Member Aliano; Seconded by Board Member Butler to approve 
the October 16, 2024 Agenda as written and the September 18, 2024 Minutes as 
written. 
Ayes: Shaia, Aliano, Butler, Dyar, Quattrocchi
Motion Passed Unanimously (5-0).
III. OLD BUSINESS:
None.
IV. NEW BUSINESS: 
A. PZ 24-000000013 – Special Exception (412 Brevard Ave) 
Consideration of a Special Exception request pursuant to Appendix A, Zoning, Article 
XI, Section 13(C) (6) and Section 22(F) of the City of Cocoa Code to allow “a bar or 
lounge, with or without a package store” to operate a cigar lounge bar serving alcohol. 
The property is identified as 412 Brevard Ave, Cocoa, Florida. Tax Parcel ID: 24-36-33-
39-B-6. District.
Luci Ribeiro, City Planner, presented the item via PowerPoint. 1  She explained the hand-
written drawing attached to the Agenda and added the seating still needs to be reviewed 
and approved by the City and is subject to conditions.  She added the applicants are 
present and would like to present.  
Applicants Luis Torres Green, Carmen Rivera Aviles and Aleck Greenwood were sworn 
in by the Recording Secretary.  
The applicants presented information via Powerpoint2.
Aleck Greenwood, 640 Brevard Ave, Cocoa, spoke regarding this item.  His concerns are 
in regard to the verbiage.  He stated there was some confusion whether there would be 
just beer and wine or if alcohol would be included.  He added that it was written 
differently in the documents. He also asked about food, hours and music.  
Ms. Ribeiro explained that the applicants will be required to do a site plan amendment 
regarding the seating and there was not outside entertainment.  Mr. Greenwood added 
that he was concerned that if this item was approved the special exception will run with 
the land.  Discussion was held regarding this concern.  
1 Exhibit A- 24-598 BOA Presentation 
2 Exhibit B – His & Hers Cigars Presentation


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Meeting Minutes
October 16, 2024
Page 3
Mr. Greenwood expressed his concern over the ordinances in general and that he would 
like the City to review and update them.  Ms. Ribeiro advised he ask that of Council. 
     
City Attorney Eick asked the applicants if they wanted to respond. In response, they 
added that they are requesting beer and wine and appreciate the feedback.  
* Motion by Board Member Dyar; Seconded by Board Member Aliano to Approve 
the Special Exception request to allow “a bar or lounge, with or without a package 
store” to operate a cigar lounge bar serving alcohol. The property is identified as 
412 Brevard Ave, Cocoa, Florida. Tax Parcel ID: 24-36-33-39-B-6. District.
Ayes: Shaia, Dyar, Aliano, Quattrocchi, Butler
Motion Passed Unanimously (5-0).
V. OTHER BUSINESS:
The Recording Secretary notified the board that there would be an item coming to elect a 
new Vice Chair.  Members should be thinking about who to nominate.  
  
VI. NEXT MEETING DATE:
The next meeting date for the Board of Adjustment is November 20, 2024.
VII. ADJOURNMENT: 
Motion by Board Member Aliano; Seconded by Board Member Quattrocchi to 
adjourn the October 16, 2024 meeting.
Motion Passed Unanimously (5-0).
Ayes: Shaia, Aliano, Butler, Dyar, Quattrocchi
There being no further business the meeting adjourned at 6:40 P.M.
______________________________________
Pam Shaia, Chairperson
______________________________________
Lori Chabot, Recording Secretary

Agenda (the City's wording)

The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (BA_Reg_Agenda_10_16_2024), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.

Transcript Partial transcript

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Yeah, I've been seeing

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reports

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Hello? Hello?

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If you could turn them on. Oh, yeah, sorry.

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worries. We're all in Navy Standard Time, so at 5 or 6 o'clock I start the meeting.

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Yeah,

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It's not working. Turn it on.

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First and foremost, ‸ want to thank the city for an outstanding job, for taking care of all of us during the hurricane. Unfortunately for most of some of the staff and leadership, they spent probably about two weeks of bonding together when their EOC here for us, and they kept the village safe and the community safe. So if you see any of the workers, please thank them for that, because they gave up their time and their talents and put them right here for us and left their families at home. And it's very important. So we're very fortunate to have such leadership here. Now I'll start the meeting. So we'll call to order, please.

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Board Member Dyer?

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Here.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much. uh We'll now stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, and Robert's going to lead us through that. Everybody stand. Please, thank you. I

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pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it

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stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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All right, moving on down. um we need approval for the agenda and the, uh minutes of the regular meeting on October the 16th, and then the minutes on the meeting on September the 18th.

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I want to make, um let you know one thing on the last page of the prior meetings minutes under the motion to adjourn. There

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So that was corrected to three, uh three, uh yes and zero no. So that correction has already been made

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that's correction has already been made. All right. Do I have a motion to

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Thank

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you. And

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Aye. Wonderful.

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No opposition. All right. Moving right along. uh no old business? For good? Wonderful. And the new business, uh we have a special exception for

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‸ I'll turn that over to Lucy now. ‸ Would you like to present that? Yes. Thank you.

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Thank you. Good evening,

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a special reception request pursuant to Appendix A zoning, our

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serving alcohol so the applicant seeks a special exception approval to operate a cigar lounge bar serving alcohol at 412 brevard avenue this 0.11 acre site contains um ‸ roughly estimated 2700 square foot ‸ building constructed in 1937, which is divided in two units with separate addresses. One unit is at 410 Brevard Avenue, and

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being used as a retail store, while 412 Brevard Avenue is designated for the proposed cigar bar bar lounge. The property operated as a cigar bar bar prior to the implementation of the

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regulating

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different businesses. City records shows that the subject property has been used for various purposes over time, including as a retail establishment wellness center and building shop. Housing businesses such as

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overlay district Cocoa village sub district.

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monday through wednesday from 11 a.m 11 30 a.m to 8 p.m thursday through saturday from 11 30 a.m to 9 30 p.m and sunday from 12 p.m to 6 p.m the applicant has provided a conceptual plan showing a seating arrangement for 21 patrons which includes one outdoor table with two seats. This space has no commercial kitchen and the applicant does not propose to prepare food. on site

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I would like to point it out also that they do have a sidewalk cafe

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review and so those two

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that you can see on the left side of the screen will be reviewed by staff and it will be a separate approval for those seating. So here is just to show the conceptual plan that is proposed but those

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still

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with fire to see if there's no concerns regarding those two seats. Based on appendix a zoning article 12 section 4d 45, the unchanged building growth floor area allows the city to consider the provided parking spaces spaces sufficient. Pedestrian access in own street parking is also available. The site provides safe and convenient access ‸ for both patrons and emergency services. No impact on the existing refuse and service areas is expected.

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including several with outside seating, and it is expected to complement and facilitate economic vitality of the CBD CVO. The staff recommends approval of the special reception in accordance with appendix a zoning article 11 section 13 C six and section 22 F of the

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to allow for a bar lounge with or without a package store to operate a beer and wine bar with the following conditions. The special reception shall not be effective until the applicant has secured all the permits and approval necessary for any development related to the special reception, including site plan approval and building permits to extend applicable. Such permits shall be obtained within six months of the board's approval. If the use as a bar lounge is discontinued for a period greater than six months,

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If the use is extended

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enlarged,

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or expanded, a new special reception approval shall be required. The site plan included as exhibit A that is in your package shall be binding up on the applicant, except the minor modifications may be made during the site plan review process to conform to the city cocoa.

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The special reception shall be limited to the portion of the property designated as

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in the same building.

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their business

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The approval shall be limited to the sale of beer and wine only.

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Hours

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operation shall be limited to Monday through Wednesday from 1130 to 8pm,

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Sunday from 12pm to 6pm. The outdoor seating proposed shall be subject to a conditional upon obtaining a sidewalk cafe permit in accordance with the city code.

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any other conditions deemed necessary by the Board of Adjustments. We do have the applicant here. If they do have a presentation, they also like to present.

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Yeah,

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that's fine. Is

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that the cards that you presented to me?

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Yeah, there's a two. There's

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a two

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cards.

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The

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Carmen.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Well, the board would like to hear from you first and then I have one other card from another individual.

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But

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you guys

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make your presentation.

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Oh, I'll change the slides for you because the click is not working. So I'll have to. Okay. Okay. Just let me

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know and then I'll

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click for you.

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Good evening everyone.

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You

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have to

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swear. Yeah. Lauren, you gotta swear.

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I'm gonna ‸ need to swear you in. Sure. Mr. Green, are you gonna ‸ be speaking as well?

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Yes.

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Are you gonna ‸ be speaking? ‸ Okay. Would you stand and I'll swear you all in at the same time, please? If you could

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raise your right hand.

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I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Yes. Yes.

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Thank

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you.

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Thank you. Okay. Go ahead.

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So good evening everyone. My name is Carmen Rivera. I'm actually one of the owners for

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Carmen is your

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mic on? I'm sorry. I have a hearing loss and I don't hear you. Is

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this better?

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She'll handle it from over here I think for me.

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Is there a green light on the bottom?

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Yes.

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Okay. You wanna try again?

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Good evening.

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Okay.

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So good evening. My name is Carmen Rivera. I'm

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as well as my husband

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So just to tell us a little bit about ourselves. Um, okay. So just to tell a little bit about ourselves. Um, so I, I'm an apprentice right

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as well as the healthcare administration, ‸ currently operating, uh, remotely for radio traffic and a radio station as well.

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Uh, so a little bit about myself.

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Uh, we've been in the business for over 20 years. I've also been in the radio industry since 1996. I've worked all over the country.

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Uh, we moved to Florida due to some family health issues with my mother. So I currently do a morning show, uh, where we cover

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So I do this every morning and then we, uh, come over and do our business in the afternoons.

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All right. So just to tell you a little bit about the lounge. Um, so what we are having is not your typical cigar shop or where you can get your CBD or your oils. What we're trying to accomplish here is given a different experience of a lounge, um, doing parents events for beer and wine, just to give a little bit more of a flavor to the palates and options to those who do smoke. There are beginners as well, ‸ aficionados as ‸ well.

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So we pride ourselves in, uh, in educating people, uh, with cigars. Uh, cigars are completely different from every other tobacco product that is out there. It's a natural product. These are premium hand rolled cigars by the

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Carmen and I are also cigar rollers. So we do hand roll cigars on site as well. And we do teach and educate people on the tobacco culture and the history of it.

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‸ So this is just a little bit of what we kind of put together to talk about the parent experience that we're trying to accomplish in the cigar lounge. So we are going with different, for example, with

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the cabernet

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and trying to pair them with different cigars.

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because of the different notes that the wine can bring into the cigar without giving and taking away from the other product as well as the ‸ coffee, which it can bring, uh, ‸ mocha notes, uh, more of a naughty tobacco flavors that you can present as well. And just to tell you about the beer,

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um,

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beers are actually fermented and prepared in layers. And it's a big similarity with the tobacco itself. Tobacco, you got to start with the filler, with the binder, with the wrapper, and it has a long process where you can get different notes in between each wrapper and each leaves. So that's why we're trying to also educate our clientele, not just of the pairing, but also the experience and the culture that goes behind the flavors to their palate.

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And one of the reasons why we did apply for this license and not a full liquor license is because we're not a bar. We're more of a cigar lounge. Um, and like I said, our main priority is the cigars. So it's a place for people to do business or come and unwind. And this is just a different option or something that they can add to their cigar experience.

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‸ So additional services that we do provide outside from our brick and mortar for

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we do provide private event services as a cigar bar, um,

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We do vendors events and we also provide a mobile cigar lounge, which

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bring a 10 by 20 tents. We put club leather chairs in there and we hand roll cigars on site. So these are additional services that will be provided, continue to be provided, but outside

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the

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Yeah. One of the things that was brought up to our attention was where we could be a venue location, which we are not. We're just a cigar lounge. We want you to come in, relax, leave your troubles outside.

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actually we have our own, so we don't need any extra. So this is just a place to come and relax. So there will be no venues at our place. Yeah.

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And this is just, uh, some of our features and work that we have done in ‸ the past. Uh, we've been working in collaboration and now currently our

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their, uh, primary cigar rollers for their house blends as well as for the

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legend, uh,

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He, we are the cigar rollers for his celebrity meet and greet as well. And just to support our background when it comes down to the

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experience, we do have collaborations and work with distilleries, breweries, wineries in the past, where we can offer and show that we do have experience and what we presenting to you today's day.

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Okay. Okay. Thank you very much. Any questions for these guys before I move on to the card? Another card, anybody, any questions?

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No questions.

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Thank

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you very much. Okay. Thank you.

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Nice presentation. Um,

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Um, first of all, um, my name is Alex Greenwood. I'm

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Brevard Avenue in Cocoa. Um, and, uh, I had shared the information, uh, that, uh, the commercial property group that basically I talked with, uh, and they wanted additional items to be looked upon while I'm here. And it looks like it's in order.

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issues that came up with the previous application that we had appealed and that's been taken care of, but we are supportive of what they're proposing. We think it's a very big, uh, and a nice addition to the village, but there's some verbiage here.

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a lot of us concerned because it contradicts where you read in other areas of the application. So I'm going to be bringing those up and please make a note of it. So I don't spend too much time on one item or other. That way I can go over each of the, uh, items or talk with the, uh,

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uh,

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applicants that are putting this together. Um, one page, it shows that

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it's calling it a. Uh,

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it's a lounge

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bar serving alcohol. Well, in a way you could say that the wine and the beer is alcohol, but what we're interested

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Clearly identified of what's required for them to stay open for business. And, uh, if it's going to be strictly beer and wine, I think that should be very clear rather than it contradict itself in other parts of it. That's one thing. Um, the other, uh, is there is ‸ going to be no food there. So they're doing it by seating. Um,

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uh, bathrooms are the bathroom sufficient for the number of people that are going to be available to frequent the place. I think there's 21 seats. Is that correct?

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Yeah.

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So that would be review. Uh, they will be required to do a site plan amendment.

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there is a change of use from a retail store to a cigar lounge. And during that review process, the fire department, the building department will review and will be able, I don't have that information on me, but if

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you,

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that's, that's something that was suggested to be looked into. ‸ So yeah, I'm sure that

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the, the probably there is a bathroom there, but if there's any concerns, that would be a building concern.

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Right. Um, the hours of operation, what they're concerned about is music. Nobody's mentioned anything about outside music. Are they going to be promoting outside music?

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Mr. Greenwood, this property has no outside seating. They, they're trying to request a sidewalk cafe ‸ permit for the front of the right in front of the, which is what other places are

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using. Yeah.

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Yes. It's similar to other places, but

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Well, that's a contingency. I think that that maybe needs to be addressed.

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if it's not, it could be, uh,

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um,

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something that could, um, come into question later.

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They, I guess they can ask them, but they are leasing the property, but I don't believe the property comes with outside. Do you have an outdoor?

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the pictures, um, there's a

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there is a cigar lounge. That's the only space we have. And the proposal of the two seating space, it's just the high top to put in that space. So it's not like a big table or anything where we can entertain. And ‸ outside music. ‸ So there's

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no music planned at all.

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No, no, ‸ no.

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Okay. Inside is not the issue. It's the outside. Now there is the sidewalk area. You could put additional tables. It's not just big enough

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special

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Okay. Now, this decision, this variance, and I want to stress this to people because for some reason they find it surprising when the statement is made. Once this is addressed and voted on,

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runs with the land forever? Are you all familiar with that fact?

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I am, yes.

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Okay. And the reason I'm bringing that up, these people seem like they're going to be bringing something very top quality here, but they could very easily sell later and it can be a completely different situation. I noticed that you're saying that if there's a change, I don't know if it's

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Or for six months, then the variance is removed. Is that correct?

[00:24:53] Speaker 3

Yeah, the business has to be abandoned for six months in order for the special reception not to have a...

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interested in opening this business, that if they decide to close the business and move on, could that just be at the time that they decide to close the business rather than it be automatic continuation for six months?

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If they decide to not continue the business in the future, could it be a setup in a way that when they decide to close the current business, that the variance stops at that time, not six months later, even if they're not even open for business?

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can do that and the variance stays with it.

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Did you understand the question? Yeah.

[00:25:47] Speaker 12

Would you like me to respond to that? Please. Okay. Generally, no, we don't. The first special exception because we... The board is approving a use. It's not specific to a ‸ particular owner. And that's why it does run with the land. That's the typical... That's the ‸ general rule for special

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So, again, because you're not...

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rather than something specific to ‸ an owner, it should run with the land. Now, we have provided an additional condition in this case that if the use is abandoned by either this owner or ‸ subsequent owner for a period of six months, then at that point, the special exception will be abandoned and terminate.

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could ask a

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question here. What Mr. Greenwood is asking, instead of it saying six months, could it be proposed that it would be 30 days after the building is abandoned, that the special exception dies with it, opposed to letting it be six months? Thank you.

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And

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I understand why he's asking that question.

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Another property, somebody else comes in and

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it. And because it's already been zoned for beer and wine, it may not be exactly what the makeup,

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Yes.

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So just a line of thought that I want ‸ you at the board to take in consideration.

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their business license. If the business license is still active and if for some reason they decide to sell the business to someone else, then the business license is kept active.

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I just want to make that clear.

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Correct, correct.

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It's that, and correct me if I'm wrong here, but my understanding ‸ is that once a property has been given the exception for a beer, wine, alcohol, whatever,

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part. Okay? To put it in simple terms. And the question that Mr. Greenwood is asking is that could the special exception instead of reading that you currently have six months, let's say that they decided, did well, and they want to move down the street to something larger. The something larger may already have, I'm making an example as I go here, so stay with me. Something larger may have already a beer and wine license, so you don't have to come back and ask. But now your piece of property that you're vacating, let's just say somebody else comes in and it may not be the makeup and cosmetic feel that we're looking for, but that piece of property

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already got a beer and wine attached to it. Exactly.

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So what he's asking

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is instead of you saying six months of vacancy,

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If it was vacant.

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run the risk of a,

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that new owner not running it exactly like how they run it, don't we run that same risk?

[00:29:41] Speaker 5

Yes and no, but, but, but

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just, I'm thinking.

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Yes and no. Yes. And that's a good question. Yes and no. But the beer and wine license remains with the business. The property's already been approved. I will use case in point. An example.

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had a beer and wine license. Okay. I don't sell beer and wine, but if somebody else came in behind me, if I retire, they can have beer and wine and not have to come and it might not be what we want.

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Okay.

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Yeah. I mean, to be clear, the, the special exception is separate from their license with the state to serve alcohol. Correct. Correct. Okay. So, and this, the license to serve alcohol is, doesn't run with the land. Those, those are given specifically to, you know, the owner or the operator of the business.

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land use. Correct. That is permitted on that property. Um, to do something like 30 days would be very unusual. Um, every other, uh, area in the code that talks about abandonment of uses. For example, if you have a nonconforming use, um, you're allowed to continue that use until you have abandoned that use and that the abandonment has occurred for a period of six months. So the six months is sort of consistent with how we approach, um, the abandonment of uses.

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I think we're just trying to prevent someone from misusing the decision that we make today for them

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the future, because we won't have control over the next person coming in

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and

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doing whatever they want with that.

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that we have included a condition that they're there, the site plan or, you know, the, the conceptual plan that they provided is binding. So if let's say there was a, another, um, you know, I don't know, beer and wine or a beer and wine shop that wanted to open, they would have to conform to the same kind of seating, request seating plan and so forth.

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So, you know, there, we have tried to, um, or at least the staff, I think has tried to, uh, put conditions on it so that it won't, you know, become something that's unlike what is before you today.

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Okay. So that was a new clarification

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Thank you. When you mentioned the owner of the property, are you talking

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that it gets connected with when you identify the owner?

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case, the applicant is the,

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but, but they have property owner authorization to request the application. And so the special exception again is

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going with the land.

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Yes.

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All right. So that's permanent. Unless we put a condition on it. I know you mentioned that, uh, uh, you all are leaning more on the six months requirement before that gets done. And, uh, I've seen other examples where in 30 days, that's usually something that could make it a lot simpler and easier to follow that. Uh, if they decide to sell or move on and go somewhere bigger, uh, that basically it's what was stated by the board.

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We're worried about what happens in the future has nothing to do with them. I like everybody that I've shared the information to that owns a commercial property in the downtown Cocoa village area. They're very supportive of it. It's the caveat. Uh, of the unknown and what could happen later. There are people out there that are looking for that. And we did mention, uh, and this is something that we're definitely going to look into the ordinances. They need to be looked into.

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plat past representation of the city. And there's another one. That's a good example. I'm not going to bring it up right now, but we're stuck with it and it's nothing but a negative situation in the village and has been. It's something that we're very protective of value wise with our property. So the staff did make wonderful concessions on it. And I'm glad that they looked at that. My compliments to the staff, but basically all the points that we're making is what happens in the future. Not that we're against these people here for their business. We want it to work. I want to see them there. So does the rest of the commercial property group that heard about it.

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What about what happens if they're not there anymore?

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It's just one of the contingencies to keep a class act with this location. And again, it goes with the land.

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which I happen to know. And so with it being so permanent, that's why these conditions are important to go over. So that it eliminates a lot of the fear and concerns. The contingencies, I think, are good that the staff is beautiful. Thank you very much, Lucy. I know that you all worked a lot on this and so did the attorney, but it's just the little fine tuning that the previous application put a scare on everybody that owns the property in the village. That's what this is all about. So I'm hoping that you could potentially consider fine tuning that and also eliminating calling it a beer. ‸ I mean, a lounge bar serving alcohol ‸ when you say serving alcohol in this here, this

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It doesn't say anything about beer and wine. It should be specific to beer and wine, not like it says here, because alcohol later, because it's written like that and it runs with the land. They could bring liquor there because it's a little vague, even though they're saying beer and wine.

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that's part of the code. The code allows for a full bar, but they're not requesting.

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that's the only thing they will be able to do. Nothing outside of that. So the condition is already set as for wine and beer. I

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understand. And we know that it's currently allowing that with the code. But if you ‸ remember, I did mention that these are ordinances, which involves the code that needs to be looked over in order to prevent some of the concerns that I'm presenting today. And they definitely need to be reviewed. This is something that's going to be pursued.

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than the things that everybody's showing concern about.

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That would be a code tax amendment. Exactly. Code and

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ordinance. And my

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recommendation to you, you can bring that to the City Council for the cost.

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Definitely. But again, it's ‸ to fine tune what we have in the village and ‸ not go off course and to protect what we got. So I highly hope that you consider some of the little tweaking on this and making it. I know you mentioned that this is the way the code is written, but the code is wrong and it needs to be corrected.

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what it really means, I kind of think it should strictly eliminate and just put like you did in another part of the application, strictly beer and wine. That needs to be stressed on this for it to go with the land.

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And it is Mr. Greenwood.

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Okay. But with the way with that being included with alcohol that changes it to actually hard liquor.

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As I mentioned before, that's just how the code reads. Correct. ‸ The code because every business under the same district,

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Correct. And the special exception to use that's why is the special exception use and that's why we're

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discussing to get approval and to be reviewed by the board.

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Yeah, for example, when I move to approve this special exemption as

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beer and wine. So when I move to approve that is including of beer and wine only. It's not ‸ sufficient. And I think

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exactly. And this has come up several times. We've had the same thing of we did the hookah lounge a couple of meetings ago and it was same thing. They were just going to serve wine and beer, but they're a bar lounge. Right. So

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it's

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Well,

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that sounds like all the points that the commercial property group wanted to hear.

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be changed to 30 days. And thank you for listening. And I appreciate this information. The commercial property group will be happy to hear what I have to share with them. Thank

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you.

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Thank you very much. Thank

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you. Appreciate it.

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Okay. Any other comments from the board? Do I have a motion?

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And do I have a second? I will second.

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Yeah. The just to make sure the applicants do have an opportunity for rebuttal if they want. If you want to,

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you

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know, present any additional evidence or make any other statements, you can. I

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wanted to give you that opportunity before we vote.

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‸ I'm

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sorry. I appreciate all your comments.

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you guys are giving us the opportunity. We are here to stay. We don't look to go anywhere. We have had the opportunity to go bigger. When we were in Pennsylvania, we decided not to.

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we appreciate your time. So I appreciate your concerns, but you're going to have us here for a long, long time. So that's the only thing that we wanted to add. Wish you the best. Thank you.

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you. And again, I apologize. Okay. Now back

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it. So we have a motion on the floor to accept and I have a second. Any more discussion, ladies and gentlemen, and I'll call for a vote. All in favor. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. We passed unanimously. Thank you very much. I don't believe we have anything else in the agenda. Is that correct? And I

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do want to add one comment.

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an item to elect a vice chair. So if anybody is interested or maybe start thinking about your nominations and she'll be ‸ bringing that to the next meeting.

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Okay. Thank you for that. Thank you. Okay. All right. And do I have a motion to adjourn? Motion to

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adjourn.

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All right. In a second. All in favor, say bye. Bye. Thank you. Have a good evening, everybody.

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Jinx.

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Thank you.

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