City Council

City Council Regular Meeting

Date: 2018-11-28
Status: City minutes and machine transcript available
Source: CivicClerk event #269

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What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (223_CC_Reg_Minutes_11_28_2018.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

Listed present when the roll was taken: Jake Williams Jr., Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss
(Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines.)
Absences: no absence line could be read from the minutes' text, so none is stated here; the first page of the minutes is the record.
Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Anthony A. Garganese (City Attorney), John Titkanich Jr (City Manager), Matthew Fuhrer (Assistant City Manager), Carie E. Shealy (City Clerk), Jack Walsh (Utilities Director), Karen Hamilton (Community Services Director), Michael Cantaloupe (Chief of Police), Gene Prince (Fire Chief), Ed Wegerif (Public Works Director), Rebecca Bowman (Finance Director)
Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Jake Williams Jr., Lorraine Koss (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (18)

1. Agenda: Regular Meeting of November 28, 2018 (18-601) — to table Item VII.3 and to bring it back after more applications are received; and to Approve the Agenda for the Regular meeting of November 28, 2018 with the amendment (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Brenda Warner); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2 Corrected to match the minutes, page 2.
to approve the Consent Agenda (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Don Boisvert); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 3 Corrected to match the minutes, page 3.
1. Approve a final subdivision consistent with Chapter 18 of the City of Cocoa Code for the City of Cocoa, a 20-lot subdivision consisting o — to approve the final subdivision consistent with Chapter 18 of the City of (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Don Boisvert); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 4; the vote on p. 5
: 2. Approve the Third Modification to the Adamson Creek Binding Development : Agreement between the City of Cocoa and DR Horton Inc. and au — to approve the Third Modification to the Adamson Creek Binding Development Agreement between the City of Cocoa and DR Horton Inc. and : authorize the City Manager to execute the same, provided that a revised performance bond in a form approved by the City Attorney is first received (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Brenda Warner); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 6
3. Ordinance No. 12-2018/First Reading: Accept the Planning and Zoning Board’s recommendation to approve the revised Landscape Ordinance. (1 — to approve Ordinance No. 12-2018 on first reading and to Accept the Planning and Zoning Board’s recommendation to approve the revised Landscape Ordinance (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 7
7 4. Ordinance No. 11-2018: Postpone to December 12, 2018 the hearing for a ) Zoning Map amendment for approximately 27.9 acres of land fr — to table this item until a date certain of December 12, 2018 in order to : preserve legal advertising (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 7; the vote on p. 8
5. Approve the First Modification to The Cottages at Cocoa Village Binding Development Agreement between the City of Cocoa and 120 Barnacle — to approve the First Modification to The Cottages at Cocoa Village Binding Development Agreement between the City of Cocoa and 120 Barnacle Bay, LLC. and authorize the City Manager to execute the same (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Don Boisvert); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 8
1. Approve the current Code Enforcement lien for the property located at 1040 Azalea Ln. be reduced from $732,300 to $4,200.00, subject to t — to table Items VII.1,2, and 4 until the first meeting of January, 2019 (January 9, 2019.) (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 12
4. Approve the current Code Enforcement lien for property located at 1333 Audubon Dr. be reduced from $54,350.00 to $2,100.00, as recommende — to ) approve the item (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 13
2. Approve a Resolution Amending the Fiscal Year 2018 Budget, from within the Departments’ Line Item Accounts, for Payroll, Benefits, Operat — to approve the item (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 13
3. Approve a Resolution Amending the Fiscal Year 2019 Budget, through the use of Various Fund Balance Reserves created by the new Purchase O — to approve the item (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Brenda Warner); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 14
to approve the item (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Brenda Warner); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 14
5. Approve adding to the base software package within the multi-year agreement with Tyler Technologies and authorize the City Manager to app — to approve the item (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Brenda Warner); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 15
6. Approve a multi-year agreement (36 Months) with Microsoft through CDW-G, Inc. for Microsoft Software, Licenses and Maintenance under the — to approve the item (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Don Boisvert); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 15; the vote on p. 16
7. Approval of the renewal of the Neogov multi-year agreement dated December 10, 2017 through December 9, 2018 for the City’s applicant trac — to approve the item (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 16
8. Approve a multi-year contract for banking services with Suntrust Bank piggy- backing off the Marion County Clerk of Circuit Court contrac — to approve the item (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Don Boisvert); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 16
9. Approval of a multi-year contract with Integrity Public Finance Consulting LLC for arbitrage calculation and related Budget Adjustment Fo — to approve the item (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 17
to adjourn the Regular meeting of November 28, 2018 (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 23

Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)

$2,100.00 — Council: listed on an agenda item that an adopted motion approved as presented. “Approve the current Code Enforcement lien for property located at 1333 Audubon Dr. be reduced from $54,350.00 to $2,100.00, as recommended by the Code Enforcement Board, at its regular meeting on October 18, 2018, subject to the applicant complying with the standard thirty-day payment condition, and including paying in full the City’s existing fixed code enforcement assessment liens recorded ag” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (223_CC_Reg_Minutes_11_28_2018.pdf, p. 13); fiscal period not recorded)
$54,350.00 — Council: the amount an adopted motion changed FROM (not the amount decided). “Approve the current Code Enforcement lien for property located at 1333 Audubon Dr. be reduced from $54,350.00 to $2,100.00, as recommended by the Code Enforcement Board, at its regular meeting on October 18, 2018, subject to the applicant complying with the standard thirty-day payment condition, and including paying in full the City’s existing fixed code enforcement assessment liens recorded ag” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (223_CC_Reg_Minutes_11_28_2018.pdf, p. 13); fiscal period not recorded)
$732,300 — Council: named in an adopted motion to table or postpone the item — nothing was decided about this amount. “Approve the current Code Enforcement lien for the property located at 1040 Azalea Ln. be reduced from $732,300 to $4,200.00, subject to the applicant complying with the standard thirty day payment condition and including paying in full the City’s existing fixed code enforcement assessment lien recorded against the property in the total amount of $10,561.38 plus any applicable lien interest.” (not adopted: the item was tabled or postponed; the City's minutes (223_CC_Reg_Minutes_11_28_2018.pdf, p. 12); fiscal period not recorded)
$4,200.00 — Council: named in an adopted motion to table or postpone the item — nothing was decided about this amount. “Approve the current Code Enforcement lien for the property located at 1040 Azalea Ln. be reduced from $732,300 to $4,200.00, subject to the applicant complying with the standard thirty day payment condition and including paying in full the City’s existing fixed code enforcement assessment lien recorded against the property in the total amount of $10,561.38 plus any applicable lien interest.” (not adopted: the item was tabled or postponed; the City's minutes (223_CC_Reg_Minutes_11_28_2018.pdf, p. 12); fiscal period not recorded)
$10,561.38 — Council: named in an adopted motion to table or postpone the item — nothing was decided about this amount. “Approve the current Code Enforcement lien for the property located at 1040 Azalea Ln. be reduced from $732,300 to $4,200.00, subject to the applicant complying with the standard thirty day payment condition and including paying in full the City’s existing fixed code enforcement assessment lien recorded against the property in the total amount of $10,561.38 plus any applicable lien interest.” (not adopted: the item was tabled or postponed; the City's minutes (223_CC_Reg_Minutes_11_28_2018.pdf, p. 12); fiscal period not recorded)

Agenda (the City's wording)

The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (CC_Reg_Packet_11_28_2018), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.

Transcript Partial transcript

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and for over 30 years she has passionately sought to serve the Lord in spirit and in truth and in the beauty of holiness. Apostle Jackson's greatest joy is serving in capacity that God ordains. She personally embraces the scripture, Luke 17, 10, we are merely servants and

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for providing individuals and families with the resources, tools, and knowledge necessary to increase their quality of life through biblical, holistic, in-depth, and hands-on approach. Through Oil of Joy Apostle, Shawna has launched community outreach programs, initiatives such as annual holiday gas giveaway, which I love, by the way,

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Her mission is to

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up-build

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the kingdom of God and his people.

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Can we stand please?

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Father,

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the name of Jesus, I thank you for these councilmen and women who have surrendered their time to serve our community. We thank you for the city of Cocoa, and we thank you for divine protection. And as they are preparing and surrendering their service for change, we agree with your will and with your glory that lives will be changed from not just this season, but for generations to come. And that every choice that they make will be led by your Holy Spirit, and that there will be divine, supernatural change from this day forth in Jesus' name.

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Amen. Amen.

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pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty

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and justice for our

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health.

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All right. Madam Clerk, roll call, please.

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Mayor Williams.

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Here.

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Deputy Mayor Warner.

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Here.

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Here.

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Councilman Goins.

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Here.

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Here. And

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Assistant City Manager here.

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Thank you.

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Okay. We're going

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move on to approval of agenda and minutes.

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I make a motion that we approve

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2018.

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There's a light. There's a light. I'll see you.

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Go ahead.

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several applications coming in for planning and zoning. As well as we have another ‸ vacancy that we'll be filling. And I'd like to postpone that reappointment just until we can look at the entire slate of available volunteers, their talents, and what they would bring.

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Who's passed?

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for reappointments

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for planning and zoning.

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Okay. She made the motion. She seconded it.

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All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. Okay. I'm

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going to make an amendment to my agenda that we remove that article mentioned by Councilwoman

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the next meeting.

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So staff is clear.

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well they were

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bringing it back once we have the other applicants. That's correct. Okay.

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All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. It passes 5-0. Okay. And we're going on to delegations. And just remember, we have five minutes to speak on the delegations. And just a reminder, whatever you put in for delegation, just to be respectful of everyone, whether it be Councilmember or just someone in the audience.

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How are you doing, sir?

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Fantastic. Thank

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you,

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sir.

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I'm doing fine.

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Thank you.

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resident. I want to thank Council for serving our community. We love where we live, and that's why we're here today. Two items I have. The first item has to do with our dental insurance. I'm a retired firefighter, and my wife currently is receiving ‸ insurance through the city as well as I am.

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terminated as of September 30th. So, that was a surprise to us. We were unaware of that. So, after speaking with the carrier and then also with the HR department here in the city, within the second day, determined that there was an error with the insurance carrier as far as their systems. So, one part of the system said she was still covered, but another part stated that she wasn't. So, long story short, she was not covered under dental from October 1 up until just recent. So, Tammy Tamati with Administrative Services, she's looking into working with the insurance carrier to see if I'm eligible for a refund of the non-coverage time, but she will have insurance. Well, ‸ she currently has it now, but she goes under the Medicare on December 1st.

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So, ‸ just want to bring into y'all's attention in that any other employee or dependent that has this coverage prior to going for their visit, they want to contact the insurance carrier just to verify because we did have to reschedule this all. Okay. And then one other thing, I want to commend Public Works folks. My wife and I, we walk to the village every morning, and they were out there, we're out there at 6 in the morning, and they were out there beforehand, pressure washing the sidewalks. Beautiful. I mean, I love walking through the village now. And so, we're walkers,

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know, and ‸ I walk my neighborhood a lot, and I just want to bring to attention to whoever could do something.

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Carmel, where it connects to ‸ Forest, it's that time of year where the Brazilian pepper trees are taking off, their colors, with the berries are turning red, so

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that sidewalk because the pepper tree branches are over. So, I was just, I checked with the business that's to the west of that. They basically said that they can't do anything.

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property, so just want to bring y'all's attention is all. So, once again, thank you all for serving, and God bless.

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Paul.

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Okay. There's no other cards ‸ on the delegation, so we're

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to move on to our consent agenda.

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a second. Any comments?

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All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay.

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Moving on to public hearing.

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A 20-lot subdivision consisting of approximately 3.59 acres.

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‸ Okay, Community Service Director.

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We have a brief presentation.

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Okay. Okay.

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So this is a... Sorry, pull that down.

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It is in the Diamond Square area. It is just south of Stone Street and just to the west of Blake Avenue. And there's a total of 20 lots to be created by the subdivision. So a little background information. In September of 2015, the city and the housing authority entered into an interlocal agreement to develop quality, affordable, mixed-income housing in the Diamond Square area.

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was a contract for purchase and sale executed by the housing authority in February of 2016, where the authority agreed to sell three parcels for $111,000.

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the actual subdivision. This is the subdivision of the third parcel, which is 3.59 acres.

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properties, and the closing occurred in October 5th of 2016. The three lots on the north side of Stone Street, directly north of the Harry T. Moore Center, are larger than the other parcels, and they could accommodate up to four or five-bedroom homes if needed. The other 17 lots will probably be three-bedroom, two-bath, two-car garage homes, and the homes will have a minimum square footage of 1,200 square feet. The property zone, RU-1-7, which is single-family residential, is a future land use designation of medium density, which, while that's not consistent with RU-1-7 zoning, does permit single-family residential use. And the future land use designation, which allows up to 15 units per acre.

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Based on the acreage of this parcel,

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could approximately achieve about 25 lots ‸ in

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which gives a maximum density of about 5.6 units per acre. Appendix A, Zoning Article 4, Section 2, provides that the city council has the authority to override any provision of the zoning code applicable to any project on land owned, leased, or controlled by the city when it finds that the public interest outweighs the strict application of the zoning code. Because these lots were platted prior to development of the RU-1-7 zoning district regulations, the area being

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replanted

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doesn't conform to the district regulations for lot width and depth. The standard is 75 feet in width and 100 feet in depth.

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Lots 2 through 6 and 9 through 13 would need a 1 foot variance for the width. Lots 1 through 14 would require a variance of 5 feet for the depth. Lots 15 and 16 would need a 15 foot variance to ‸ the width. The remaining lots, 17, 18, 19, and 20, all meet or actually exceed, in most cases, the lot width or depth requirements. Staff felt that the name

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to the subdivision as the subdivision is parallel to Blake Avenue. Michael C. Blake is a 58-year resident and a graduate of Cocoa High School. He is a former elected official and a staunch advocate of affordable housing. He served as the mayor of the city of Cocoa for eight years, councilman for four years, and was on the board of directors for a local affordable housing organization after his tenure as mayor. He was instrumental in assisting the housing authority of the city of Cocoa with the demolition of the dilapidated public housing units that existed on the property and the revitalization of the area,

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During his tenure as mayor, Mr. Blake supported the city's affordable housing efforts by partnering with Habitat for Humanity for the first time to construct Habitat homes in 2009 on Pawpaw Street. Mr. Blake also encouraged staff to create a housing replacement program for those homes that were beyond repair,

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and the first replacement home was constructed in 2010.

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developer to design and construct affordable workforce housing. The selected developer will be required to enter into a development agreement to ensure the construction of new

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home

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and the agreement will be presented to council prior to construction. So staff is recommending approval.

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before I open it up to the public.

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it right now?

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have this,

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we will submit an RFP, request for proposals from developers to,

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the number of lots.

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Okay,

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time we're going to close it to the council and open it up to the public. Any public input or comments with reference to this item? Seeing there's

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it to the public and open it back up to the council.

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Motion to approve.

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We got a motion to approve.

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Yes, I was looking. I was going to make a couple of comments here real quick. I did have one question, though, before we bring Mr. Blake up.

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Are these going to be,

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if there's

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going to be any kind of deed restrictions on these homes, or is this just, because I know

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and that wasn't the intent of the council at the time.

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We actually, the Deputy ‸ Community Service Director and

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I've

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already had that conversation, and we could work with the City Attorney's Office in terms of providing for a deed restriction as it relates to, you know, the continuation of that the homes be for, you know, affordable, you know, low, moderate income housing. So we would work with the city attorney's office to best craft at such time that we put the RFP out. We

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will

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obviously describe what we are seeking to, you know, achieve in terms of low, moderate,

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with the contracts.

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and the former mayor, Blake,

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‸ that's something we discussed ‸ back then, that we want these homes to remain affordable, and we wanted families in these homes

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and I guess that's

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starting to happen now, and it's not a good thing because we have, we got our share of rentals in the city of Cocoa, and we're trying to want to attract some families in there as well. They're coming into our city, so. Mr. Blake, if

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And while he comes up, perhaps I missed her,

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can't find it now.

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We would put out an RFP for ideally a non-profit developer. It opened it up to a for-profit developer as well, but for a non-profit developer, for the purposes of developing, then, you know, because the fact that there's 20 lots, ‸ you

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liable, more likely to get maybe somebody that's willing to move on their margins for the purposes of getting 20 lots to develop.

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No, I don't think we were thinking two years in terms of putting it out to the market, ‸ sooner than, way sooner than that, in this upcoming calendar year.

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How you doing, sir? Very well, Mr. Mayor.

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How are

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Let me be first to say two simple words we do not hear enough. Well, thank you very much. ‸ Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Mr. City Manager and staff, Mr. Mayor and Council Members, both men and ladies,

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And I would just like to say thank you very much for the acknowledgement of what is taking place today.

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I'm even lost for words. I Mrs.

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for doing an eloquent but outstanding job and your presentation on my history background, ma'am. I'm happy to see my pastor out here, former pastor classmate, Mrs. Shawna Brown, Pastor Shawna Brown, and a beautiful daughter

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principal here too as well, Mr.

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Wilson. But more so than anything else, I'm just glad to see the

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I thank you humbly very

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so than anything else, your empathy, for caring, because caring and sharing. And to have a dream, it takes a village, it takes a community. And I'm glad to be a part of your community. So, you open up your circle to include me.

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grandparents, I say thank you very much for this great

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moment

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in my lifetime.

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And I thank you very much.

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God bless America, God bless the United States, and thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you, sir. Well-deserved.

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Yes.

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Because it's different being on this side of the podium as well. But again, thank you, staff. Thank you, council members, everyone.

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Thank you very much.

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you.

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Okay. What is the wishes of the council?

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We got a motion. Yeah,

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had a first and a second. All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. It passes. You know, absolutely 5-0.

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is approval of the third modification to the Addison Creek Binding Development Agreement between the

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to execute the same, provided that, a revised performance bond

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a form approved by the city attorney is first received.

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this is a residential subdivision in District 3. It was originally built in 2006 and was supposed to have 154 homes. With market conditions, the developer came in and asked if they could phase out different sections.

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And along with that, there was an amenity schedule that would say certain, you know, open space, recreational facilities would come online at certain points in time. And the issuance of a CO would be, would require those improvements to be made. There have been a few changes over time. And the most recent change was to switch out some amenities. More specifically, they had previously proposed a basketball court in one phase, which was phase 1A on a particular track, track M, and soccer fields. And then there was also another basketball court on track K in phase 1B. And looking at it from HOA, a homeowners association perspective, in terms of maintenance, the cost as well as noise concerns, ‸ decision was made to change those amenities. And so in place of those, the developer has proposed a fitness course, a playground multi-use field, and an open lot for play. And so we required the developer to meet with the residents. And so at a HOA ‸ meeting earlier this month, they presented some conceptuals of what those new recreational facilities would look like, and so those are the images that Dodie is projecting. And the substitutions were well received by the community, and they were also, the residents were also notified about the proposal coming tonight.

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we're requiring is a performance bond to make sure that those amenities are completed, ‸ as promised, and otherwise we would, you know, grant that this request, this modification be approved.

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And I'll tell you, I will be following up on that because I remember the first flat there, we had some messages with them kind of dragging their feet with the pool and ‸ stuff. ‸ But anyway, we're going to at this time go ahead and close it to the council and open it up to the public. And we have one card here, Ms. Patricia Weeks. Yes. Yes.

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Never done this before,

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so excuse me.

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can just

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My name is

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Patricia Weeks. I live at [address].

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and finally saw a plat of what they have proposed for the new subdivision. And at the time I asked what this blank spot here was going to be because, and I assume you all have this, the copy of the plat? No? Because the whole new phase back here in the back, in order to get back there, they have to go through our current phase through one little strip.

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section here. This is the old section. That's the pool. Why they would not put a direct road to the back versus having them come all the way around and ‸ only have one road all the way into the back. And makes no sense to me. ‸ What's going in here? There's nothing labeled there. It's just wide open

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And ‸ so that's my concern and I want to know. And the D.R. Horton said they would get back with me.

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So I give them my contact. So I wanted to be here today.

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that land that's not included is not owned by the developer. It's owned by another party. At least when that property was platted. And I know when Gibraltar, well, it was originally Fort Macaulay Homes. And then Gibraltar Capital ‸ acquired it after the recession.

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other than the amenities schedule based on concerns for maintenance costs and also the likelihood or the propensity for use. Because we did meet with them. Originally, they had proposed something lesser and we said it needed to be

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recreation. So ‸ the requested action is related to the amenities schedule. It's not

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really

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to the plat itself. But the property that

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Weeks is pointing out is not part of the Adamson Creek subdivision. So they would not have any legal access to just cut through that other lot.

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‸ I wish they would have said that because I asked what that was and they couldn't tell me anything. And like I said, it makes no sense when you look at it.

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Does that piece

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It's actually, it's north of the property. It's kind of.

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It sits right square in the middle.

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seen that. Okay.

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Thank you, ma'am.

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Okay. We're going to close it to the public and reopen it to the council. Those are ‸ wishes of the council.

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Motion to approve.

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Second.

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We've got a motion by Councilman Goins and a second by Councilwoman Warner. All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. It passes unanimously. And we're going on to 6-3,

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first reading, except for the planning and zoning board, recommendation to approve the revised landscape and

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Mr. City Attorney. Yep. An

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article A. ‸ Sorry, appendix A, article 13, section 22 of the code of the city of Cocoa to modify the landscape requirements related to tree protection and preservation, providing for the repeal of primary consistent ordinances and resolutions, incorporation to the code, severability, and an effective date.

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The planning and zoning board has been delegated authority to make recommendations regarding land development regulations. And they ‸ have recommended a series of changes to the city's tree ordinance. And I think staff is prepared to go

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some of those details. Yes.

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So, as Anthony said, these were some recommendations from the planning and zoning board. And they asked staff to help refine and better emphasize the tree board's role as it relates to removal of oak trees on public property in the city. They wanted to have more robust standards for tree replacement, as well as revising the circumstances when trees are removed, whether it's permits or if it's done in an emergency situation, requiring more documentation from staff as to the reasons for the tree removal. Documentation may include pictures, things of that nature, and just some other ‸ housekeeping amendments that just make the code clearer. In ‸ the actual staff report,

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And I can entertain any questions at this time.

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Okay. Well, we're going to close it to the council and open it to the public. Any comments or anyone would like to address this issue?

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first reading, so. Okay. We're going to close it to the public and reopen it back to the council.

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Motion to approve.

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I'll second.

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Okay. We

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All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed? Okay. It passes unanimously.

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The hearing for the zoning map amendment for approximately 27.9 acres of land from RU-1-7, single-family residential, to RU-2-15, multifamily residential, 18-595. Mr. City Attorney.

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This is just a technical request to postpone to a date certain the hearing for the zoning map amendment. All that's required by the council is a motion to be approved by a majority vote to postpone. This would preserve advertising and move the matter to the December 12th agenda. So

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it doesn't need to be public hearing this evening then?

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Yes. Okay.

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So we're going to close this to the council, open it to the public. Any comments?

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We're going to close it to the public, open it to the council.

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Motion to approve. Second.

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We got a motion by Councilwoman Warner, a second by Councilwoman Cost. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed?

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Approve the first

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and authorize the city manager to execute the same.

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Go leave.

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So I'm

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This, ‸ what came about was a discovery after we did the initial development agreement for the project. Excuse me. There was a discovery that there's an FPL easement that affects the corner of the property. And I apologize. I don't think that what was included in your staff report really showed you very well. But you can show it. You can see it here.

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track A.

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It runs along the Rosa Jones side. And along the Florida Avenue side.

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They made them a little bit closer together. And then they moved the whole thing to the east so

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FPLs would be preserved along Florida.

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So the 10-foot easement along Rosa Jones is preserved. What that does, though, is required. We had allowed,

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And because they've had to move them, that needs to shrink to 3 feet with your blessing. The applicant is requesting FPL vacate the northern part of that easement. It actually runs all the way up to the property line. Lot 5 would potentially be impacted. Hopefully that ‸ will happen and then Lot 5 won't be changed. But that hasn't been finalized yet this time.

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four lots, 1 through 4, to be offered from 5 feet to 3 feet.

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Yeah. Okay.

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Okay. ‸ We're going to close it at this time to the council, open it up to the public for any public comments.

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don't have any cards and don't see anyone moving forward. So we're going to close it to the public, reopen it to the council.

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Motion to approve.

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Second. We've got a motion by councilwoman

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All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? That passes 5-0. We're going to move on to council business. First one is approve the current code enforcement lien for the property located at 1040 Azalea Lane. It will

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reduced from 732,300 to 4,200. Subject to the applicant complying with the standard 30-day payment conditions, including paying in full the city's existing fixed code enforcement assessment lien recorded against the property in total

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Chief.

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Yes, Mr. Mayor and council. This item, original lien reduction, was brought in front of the code enforcement board on October 18th at the regular meeting. After the board listening to staff and the property owner, their recommendation was to reduce the lien to the $4,200, and then with the agreement that all the other fixed liens would be paid, and that would be contingent on those. Myself can answer questions also. We have

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Yes. ‸ The representative is here.

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Okay, but we've got a councilman Warner.

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this the

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where we had a house that was under code enforcement action for about 10 years? Yes.

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second story, and we finally had to demolish?

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that?

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Yes, it

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and some other items that were taken care of on the property by the city.

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Yeah, I seem to remember we had a lot of ‸ complaints about the condition of the property because it was on the corner of

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main highway and affected a lot of other property owners. Thank you. And I

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‸ think what held that ‸ up was the fact that it was homesteaded. Of course, we couldn't do anything about it.

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But

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anyway,

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what's

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the wishes of the council, or would you all like to listen to the applicant?

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The applicant is here, Mr. Mayor. Yes, sir, if you could.

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My name is Victor Watson. I'm a real estate attorney. My office is at 3490 North US-1, Cocoa, Florida. These properties are owned by Gladys Thomas. Gladys is 94 years old. A lot of you may know her.

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worked at Barnett Bank for many years, as

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there. She was recently, about a year ago, diagnosed with dementia. However, that was probably coming on for quite a while. Her affairs are now being handled by her son, Joe Thomas. Ms. Thomas owned several properties here in Cocoa with her husband, Harold Thomas. Harold Thomas, and she had bought these properties as part of their retirement. There was never any problem when Mr. Thomas was alive. He managed the properties, took care of everything. He became ill. He died in 2003. At that time, Ms. Thomas was already almost 80 years old. Ms. Thomas was also caring for her son, John, who had been mentally handicapped since birth. So she pretty much had her hands full. In 2010, John was in a car accident.

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was severely injured. He then had to go to the hospital three times a week. And ‸ Ms. Thomas took care of that. In 2013, she had a stroke.

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She broke her hip in 2017. She's been in assisted living ever since then. Her bills are mounting. She's got another property that was under contract for sale. But because of these code enforcement liens, it could not sell. At this point, the house in Rockledge is back on the market. She was not able to take care of these matters over the years. And she had mental problems. ‸ With the fixed liens that will be paid and with recommended liens, there's a substantial amount that will be paid. I'm not sure of the total, but it's just one of the fixed liens. It's $10,561. Another one is $5,629.50.

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Thomas, has agreed that of the proceeds of the sale, there will be enough to get her hospital bills taken care of and her nursing home bills.

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held. I'm going to hold it in my escrow account.

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Cocoa. Mr. Thomas wants to get those rehabilitated, get them on the market,

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living there. He lives in Winter Park. He doesn't want to be in the rental business.

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wants to improve the city, bring some families in. And we would request that you approve these liens. I've told you about Mr. Thomas' situation. Of course, it's the same ‸ for all three of the properties.

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And then Mr. Thomas is here as well.

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Okay. Thank you, sir. ‸ Any comments from the council? Mr.

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of the council?

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got one thing. Okay.

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So are you able to provide something? Because you said something at the end about holding that $40,000 to improve other properties, ‸ which are properties are something ‸ we're going to discuss later on in

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meeting tonight. Are you able to provide something in writing saying that that's going to happen?

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I'd be happy to do that. ‸ I would treat it basically kind of like a construction loan. You know, I would just hold the funds. Mr. Thomas can bring in the bills, and I'd pay them out of my escrow account.

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There's, of the three properties, two ‸ that are on the agenda have been demolished.

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Correct.

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there. That will be rehabilitated.

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not have any liens against it. But those two properties on Fisk will be rehabilitated with these

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would just share with city council. At the time much of this happened, I was the community development director, and code enforcement ‸ reported to me. And we worked,

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the philosophy with the city has always been to work with property owners to obtain voluntary compliance.

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the house on the corner of Fisk, there was a significant impact on the neighborhood and the community and the residents surrounding it. And

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and hostile towards his neighbors, towards the city, continued to do things in spite of being told that they were not, you know, they were not compliant, and they were not in adherence with the code.

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It was homesteaded property. So, I mean, I am completely empathetic, you know, with the situation that Mrs. Thomas is facing. But I just, I think I'd be remiss not to share from a historical perspective that the community along the Fisk corridor, you know, I would say suffered because it was an eyesore and in a measurable way. And then the outright obstinance and defiance, you know, towards trying to at least come to the table and work and establish some sort of agreement. You know,

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can agree to disagree, but it just, there was nothing that the property ‸ wanted to do but to, for lack of a better term, stick it in the eye of the neighbors

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the community and the city. And I think I'd be remiss not to say that because ‸ it was a source of frustration. We would get calls continuously about the additions and the things that were being done at the property.

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And it was homesteaded property and he knew that.

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And the city manager is being nice about it because it goes well beyond that.

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He was definitely rather positive about that. But anyway,

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Councilwoman Warner.

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I just have one concern. And that is, it's always been our policy to, to pretty much, you know, because the code board does tend to get more information, have more opportunity.

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with this property because we have members of the code board who've been there over 20 years. So they're well aware of the history of this property.

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one concern. And that is that lot sits at the corner of Fisk.

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it, while it doesn't look anything like it used to look, it is still an eyesore in the middle of that neighborhood. And my concern is that if we do something that prevents that property from ever being able to be redeveloped, that we sit there with that mess on the corner for the next 20 or 30 years.

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to see if we can't come to some agreement that will make sure that that property is available to be sold or to be redeveloped. But I think the city and the taxpayers in

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city definitely deserve that $10,000 back that we spent to demolish that house.

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us should be responsible for that.

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to cause it to sit there for another 20 years in the condition

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currently in. So if staff has some ideas of what we might be able to do, I am open to thinking outside the box on this one because it is on our main corridor and it still looks horrible right there.

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If I may

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whether it's for lawn abatements or demolitions, would have to be paid, not just because of the lien reduction, but they would not be able to go forward with the sale. This particular property on Azalea was recently sold on ‸ tax deed sale. And

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property appraiser. It is actually a different owner. We already have

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active code case for the piles of debris, for the overgrowth, and are trying to get in touch with the owner to see. We believe that they purchased it sight unseen, but we have sent all our notices out and we're looking to move forward on that. But yes, we would like to see the same. However, on that particular property, Mr. Thomas would not be the owner anymore because it's been sold through tax deed.

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Yeah, because we've seen that history of, you know, they've probably been bought through the ‸ tax things ‸ and they're sitting there for a few more years and us dealing with the same issues. Mm-hmm. You know, and then they come before a code board and ask for forgiveness.

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if you can go ahead.

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So, I just want to get the habit to where, like Mr. City Manager was saying,

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when

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someone is neglectful and doesn't care about the property, and we continue reducing costs for someone who's not at least trying to get it better, that's my only issue.

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the answer to that, Ms. Warren. These

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are never easy, Mr. Goins.

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But, like you said, that hard cost, and I know there's several other properties that we have to deal with tonight as well from the same owner.

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But all of the hard costs, those are not being reduced. Those do have to be paid.

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Well, if that is, then I would suggest that I'll make a motion to move this forward, charging the owner of the property for any and all hard costs associated with the subject property. And they don't own the property anymore. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, how are we?

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How do you charge them? Yeah.

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‸ Since they don't

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the property, how are we?

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Yeah.

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it's kind of confusing. I'm hearing,

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one, that they don't

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The applicant doesn't own the property, number one. And, number two, I'm hearing that there's perhaps outstanding code ‸ enforcement compliance issues. Yes,

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once we discovered that the property was sold at the ‸ sale, we cited a lot for the current condition.

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owner. It has since rolled over on a property appraiser to show the new owner.

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Is that for, just for context, is that for all three of the cases or just this particular one?

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Then I would offer to counsel if the city attorney doesn't believe it's proper to enforce a lien on the applicant that no longer owns a property. You could certainly take the cost that the city taxpayers are out and attach it to the other properties.

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because they were trying to sell property in another city on which our liens, code enforcement liens, were attached. But for that action, they would not be here.

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Why?

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I think that Mr. Thomas, now that he's taken over his mother's affairs, he's stepping in and trying to deal with all these properties. He brought these into compliance. ‸ Mr. City

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Attorney, how would

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you suggest?

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do you suggest?

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I did.

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back at the next meeting?

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I would like to point out, I hate to interrupt, but there was one thing I needed to say, which is that in the conditions here, you're saying all these have to be paid off within 30 days, which would be, since they're still going to be large liens, that would be difficult.

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the other property ‸ in Rockledge. And from that, from those proceeds, ‸ that's what would be used to pay these liens off.

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we'll know exactly what it is, and then we can do that as part of the closing statement and the escrow funds, then to rehabilitate ‸ the two cocoa properties.

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But not this property.

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Yeah, we don't have

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control of this, but we would still have to pay the ‸ fine for the hard costs, ‸ the demolition. If I'm

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hearing correctly, ‸ you're seeking to pay the fines out of the proceeds of the sale of the Rockledge property.

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Correct.

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So, it's just the time to matter, right?

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Whether

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or not we can come up with funds. Going back to the deputy mayor's point,

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think it probably needs to be, potentially with the city attorney, we do need to have an agreement, because our code requires that you pay the fine within 30 days. And so, by virtue of an agreement,

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know we've done it with other properties in the past, we could take into account all the hard costs that the city's out of the former property owner and include that in the agreement. But

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I'm also hearing from the council and I'm hearing from Dennis that there are some issues with this particular property.

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So,

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we have that issue that's out there. And if the city council moves forward and releases this

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juncture

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property in compliance.

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owner, and they are not. That's why I asked the question.

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through a tax deed sale. So, if we know what the fixed costs are across the three properties that the city taxpayers are out, we enter into an agreement that covers those costs for those remaining two properties. He's already noticed the ‸ new property owner that there's violations that exist on the property ‸ that arguably they probably should not be here seeking relief on at this point in time. But he's proceeding with that process.

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The city ‸ council has entered into code enforcement lien reduction agreements on several occasions. When there is a domino effect of things that have to occur in order to satisfy the liens, and ‸ we've done that in the past. Because they're not all cookie cutter. In some cases, the dominoes have to fall a certain way in order to achieve the objectives that the council wants to achieve. So, I'm hearing what the manager is saying. Perhaps maybe that's what we do is we step back and do a code enforcement lien satisfaction agreement and bring that back ‸ at the next meeting. So, we can sort out the details and get this lined up in a way that it works to the council's expectations.

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And that will be

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That works for me. Okay.

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We're trying to bring it back for the next meeting.

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All right.

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That might be difficult.

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‸ So, I would say the ‸ first meeting in January would be more likely with the holiday.

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Mr. Garganese, I'm just wondering if my client doesn't own the property anymore. It's somewhat out of its hands as far as the demolition.

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mean, I think it was in compliance previously. Now, if there's a new owner and this owner is not bringing it into compliance,

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seems like a different matter. I just don't know how my client can control that.

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But, as you know,

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the land of all properties owned by the violator in the county in which the lien is ‸ recorded. So, your client has a stake on that code enforcement lien on this particular that's being presented. But, I understand now that your client doesn't have control of this property anymore.

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But, I want to maybe get with staff, get with you and the city manager and kind of think about this a little bit more.

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city could take control that way.

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Yeah, and we're at this point. I'm not at liberty to maybe disclose certain strategies that we're thinking about. But, I want to protect the city's interests here. So,

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how do you want us to move forward with this right here? Do you want to include all three in a motion? Or, do you want to, or should we do them individually?

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You could do them with all three of them since it's the same property on the same applicant.

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three items until the meeting in January, John.

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Yeah,

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be January 9th, I believe.

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All right, I'll make that motion. Second.

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What was the motion?

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9th meeting.

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Okay, we got a motion by

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All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay, it passes 5-0.

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Thank you, sir.

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you. Thank

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you, Victor. Okay, we're going to move on to city business. No, that's it.

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That's it.

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Move on to city business.

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award from the Department of Environmental Protection to be used by the Community Service Department to allow the city manager to sign an agreement

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Planning Council to conduct the vulnerability assessment and

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Yes. So this item had come before Council back in April. And at that time, we had asked Council permission to apply for the grant. And if we were awarded the grant to authorize the city manager to go ahead and enter into a contract with the East Central Regional Planning Council.

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and the city had some damage at the waterfront, we thought about our vulnerability to various hazards, hurricanes being one, but other types of water-related hazards. And there was an opportunity with DEP and NOAA to get funding to be able to improve, to better understand those vulnerabilities, and then to develop policies and recommendations. And so we took advantage of that grant opportunity and we have since been awarded. The reason that we're working with the East Central Regional Planning Council is that they have certain technical abilities and expertise and they have done several vulnerability assessments in this types of work. They're working with other local governments, including Titusville, Satellite Beach, and some others, just to name a few.

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funds to be received and to establish an account so that those funds can be used to move forward with this important work.

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That's a good thing.

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All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye.

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They'll share this item

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with them. ‸ And there will also be stakeholder engagement sessions, and so there will definitely be an opportunity for that committee, as well as others, to be engaged. So, yes.

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Thank you, ma'am. Okay. Item number two under city businesses approve a resolution amending the fiscal year 2018 budget from within the department's line item accounts for payroll benefits, operating, and capital accounts, which may have become negative at the year end due to accruals, ‸ retirement payouts, changes in the healthcare benefits, and

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the end of the fiscal year accounting staff goes through, reviews any kind of budget overages, and then prepares this agenda item to present to Council to clean up the budget or shore it up.

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first amendment to the budget was for fire station construction. There was a transfer that

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to fund the fire station's construction, and part of that money was transferred, and then through the year end process we discovered the rest of the cash was not transferred, so we're requesting approval to complete that transfer that was already previously approved two years ago. And then the other item is to shore up the internal service fund whereby a fee is kind of set and charged out to the other departments, and it was discovered that the fee that was charged was not enough, and so we need to ‸ do this amendment to provide the revenue for the internal service fund. The other attachment is for transfers where it stayed within departments, but we had to move the money around so that those particular line items were not over budget, but we are bringing it forward to Council for transparency.

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Okay. Thank you, ma'am.

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Motion to

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Second.

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All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed. Passes 5-0. Number three. Approve ‸ a resolution

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the fiscal year 2019 budget through the use of various fund balances, balance reserves created by the new purchase order rollover process,

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This agenda item is to shore up the budget once again. At the end of the fiscal year, there were some purchase orders that were left open due to projects that were previously approved by Council or through the budgetary authority, the city manager. In the past, the city has required departments to close all their existing purchase orders and then reopen them again at the beginning of the fiscal year. However, it was determined to be more efficient and effective to allow the departments to leave their purchase orders open and then to go back and provide them the budget again in the following fiscal year. Now that we've gotten past our revenue recognition period and we know exactly what those numbers are, this agenda item is being presented to you to request the budget to be put back in place to provide the departments to be able to continue with their projects.

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Warner. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Passes unanimously 5-0. ‸ And last item on city business is approve a resolution amending the FY 2019 budget accounting for all the bonds series 2018-B, new money and moving

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to the budget.

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Moving all utility bond related projects expense budgets

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projects 2018-B fund 4-26 and each fund respective fund balance reserve accounts 18-590. Finance director.

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Thank you. This agenda item is to provide the budget for

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So part of this agenda item is providing the budgetary authority to match the expenses with the transactions, the budget. And then the other portion of it is that because these are related to a specific bond, we account for money in different funds, which is kind of like a bank account. And originally everything, there are projects that were recorded in the water and sewer fund, and it's more efficient and effective to put all these projects into a separate fund so that we can track them, whether it's on the finance side or the water and sewer side. It's going to be a lot easier for us to track the projects. So we're transferring what was budgeted in fiscal year 19 and the 421 fund just over to the 426 fund to track the bond proceeds and the spending and the bond proceeds.

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want to apologize to the deputy mayor. I don't

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I just wanted to correct that.

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he normally lets me know things,

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this time he didn't say a word. So, so, so, uh, what is the wishes of the council?

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Okay, we got a motion by

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and we got a second by

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All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? It passes 5-0. Okay, we're going to, uh, multi-year contracts. Um, approve adding the base software package within the multi-year agreement with

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license and maintenance agreements, 18-5-3. Assistant City Manager. Yes,

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this item is for, uh, modification to a multi-year software agreement with, uh, Tyler Technologies. They currently provide our, uh, public safety records management and, uh, computer-aided dispatch. ‸ Essentially, the city, back in, uh, 2015 renegotiated a, a five-year,

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multi-year contract with Tyler Technologies that, uh, had a flat rate, uh, as well as a, uh, uh, a host of software services that they would provide.

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modified agreement for approval. Uh, within that agreement, there was a provision for, uh, the latest update of the software, uh, of which is underway right now, and,

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expected to be complete in December. With that new software upgrade, there's a number of, uh, enhancements for the operational needs for both police ‸ and fire to include data sharing with other, uh, local agencies within the county, um, and, uh, reporting dashboards, integration with other software that's since been, uh, purchased, uh, for the operational needs. And, uh, uh, what we are asking is, uh, to modify that agreement the remaining two years, this fiscal ‸ year and next fiscal year to include, uh, those items, uh, of which, uh, the cost currently is, uh, $90,659. The cost will go to $101,054 with those additional items. You're not actually paying for the software. They'll tell you the software is free. You're paying for the maintenance and support annually.

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what's before you are for the final, uh, two years of this agreement. And, uh, at such time, we will renegotiate with the vendor to bring back a new contract.

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And was that you deputy mayor?

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Yeah, it was me.

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Thank you there. Mr. Assistant city manager. Uh, number six.

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licenses and maintenance under the terms and conditions of the national IPA technology solutions.

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city manager to finalize the terms of the sign and sign ‸ agreement and authorize the city manager to approve potential future additional licenses to be added to the enterprise agreement through the annual true, true,

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program up to $20,000 per year.

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Uh, yes, Mr. Mayor. This item is, uh, for the approval of a multi-year agreement for our, uh, Microsoft, uh, licensing and, uh, software maintenance. Um, a three-year term. They do, uh, come back to the city annually for a true up if we make any changes, uh, whether that be to our users or we make hardware changes that require modifications to our software.

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the cost is going up on this item. Uh, for a number of years with some technology changes, uh, it's become pretty common practice to, uh, virtualize your servers rather than just having a physical, uh, server in place.

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can run multiple virtual servers. And so the city had been like many other, uh, businesses been doing this for some time. Uh, Microsoft licensed the actual physical server. Well, they've gotten smarter like a lot of the software companies going to the licensing models. They've now looked at, uh, the actual processing cores that it would take. So if we add more virtual servers, we need more processing cores. And so they, they, they,

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found a way to determine what that is for us. And, uh, that's why you see the cost going up here. The reason

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to approve up to 20,000, uh, each year for this, uh, term of this agreement is because, you know, as, as

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our various departments have software needs or hardware needs based on future software, we may need to modify that agreement through the annual true up and the cost could change. So rather than bring it back to you annually, uh, this would allow the city manager to sign that agreement up to 20,000 each year.

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And do they have responsibility for security of the system for security of the data?

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so, uh, as far as a responsibility for a data loss, ‸ the city does for our email, we have a backup storage for every email that comes in and out. So we're not completely relying on the cloud for the storage and recovery of those emails. Mm-hmm.

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I wasn't thinking about recovery as much as, uh, you know. Outside access. Right. Outside access to the

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More comments? So wishes of the council.

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All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed.

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Our next item number seven,

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dated December 10th, 2017 through December 9th, 2018 for the city's applicant tracking system and authorize the city manager to sign 18-6-0, administrative service director.

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Yes. Um, this is the, our applicant tracking system software that we use for ‸ candidates to apply for positions, um, with the city and the, we're happy with the vendor at this time. Um, so we're looking to extend it for a couple, three more years. Um, that's, that's why we're here.

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I'm here to answer any questions if you have any. Motion to approve.

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We got a motion by Deputy Mayor Warner. Second.

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Further, if required by the bank authorize the city manager to approve banking resolutions with the advice of the city attorney and authorize the mayor to execute said resolution if necessary.

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Thank you. Um, this is an item to renew our contract with SunTrust.

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for banking services since 1997. And it's more, uh, cost effective to, uh, piggyback off someone else's contract that's gone through, uh, the total bid process. It's pretty complicated when you go through a banking service contract. And, um, the city had previously piggybacked off of Marion County. So we're requesting to, um, piggyback off of the new contract with Marion County. I would like to note that, um, there is an earnings credit built in, which, um, offsets what would be fees, uh, for the banking services. Uh, that earnings credit rate is 0.65%, which is the same as what we're currently earning. And then the interest rate is at 0.5%.

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off of Marion County.

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we're requesting council approval.

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Motion to

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approve.

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Second. We've got a motion by, um, Deputy Mayor Warner and a second by, what? Councilman Don Bovair. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed.

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Arbitrage. Arbitrage.

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approval for ‸ the mayor to execute said agreement. 18-605, Finance Director.

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Thank you, Council. This agenda item is related to something that's called arbitrage. So the city issues tax-exempt debt at a low interest rate, and then while the spending on the debt goes on, the city invests money. And arbitrage is a difference between what the city rate is that they're paying and what they would earn.

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to determine if we wind up owing the IRS money or if we're still in a good position and haven't exceeded that interest rate that we're paying on the debt. And as you know, historically, recently the rates have been really, really low, so there hasn't been a concern of arbitrage. But staff is requesting approval of this contract to go through 2023 to ensure that we do stay in compliance and we don't have any concerns about arbitrage, particularly with the rising interest rate environment that we're in right now. And so staff is requesting approval of this contract.

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Motion to approve. Second.

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We get a motion by ‸ Deputy Mayor Warner

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All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? It passes 5-0. Okay. We're going to our informational agenda. Do you guys normally discuss this or is

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just for our information? Just for information. Okay. Okay. Thank you, sir. And then we're going to go to our advisory boards and our reports. Advisory boards. Anyone from ‸ advisory boards that need to say anything? ‸ Thank you. And city administration. Fire chief.

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If you mention the Chris Daniels deal. Could you kind of just expand just a little bit? Because some people aren't familiar with Chris Daniels.

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then just a little bit for some ones that didn't know or don't know.

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Chris Daniels was a sergeant with us at the

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He did many things. He was an investigator for many years. Came up through the ranks. Like I said, he was a sergeant. He came down with a form of cancer. He fought that battle against the cancer for a good time. And then succumbed to that cancer, unfortunately. The tournament originally or golf tournament originally started as a fundraiser to help him and his family out for bills and other things. And then after his passing, we continued that tournament to help his family. And then as he had two kids and a wife. As the kids grew, the tournament kind of went and we did more with the tournament. It actually now is a fundraiser for our non-profit, which is Cocoa Community First. But we truly, for myself, we do the tournament in memory of Chris. Is why we do the tournament.

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Although it is a fundraiser, it is. With that being said, it is on Saturday at

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Eight o'clock shotgun start, it will begin. If you haven't got a team together, there's still time. You can actually register online or you can come out Saturday morning and register. So people that are listening out there, put a team together and come out. We have some great prizes this year. One of them is going to be raffled

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I believe, four tickets to a Magic game with a lot of other things going on. So there's some great prizes. Also, that same day, I want to talk about

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will also be going on Saturday.

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at Provost Park. This is another event

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We go out, many of

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kids come out from different schools. Kids get to go to Toyland and do all kinds of different things. And always, Mr. and Mrs. Claus are always there for that event. Also, tomorrow, we will be participating in the

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This is an event that started probably three years ago in cooperation with the

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There's several legs of this event.

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starts in Titusville and actually ends in Palm Bay.

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It goes down to Roselle Jones. Basically, the event

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A lot of them will collect toys and we'll collect the toys from the businesses at that event. So if you're able, come out and join us. It's a lot of fun. Same with the golf tournament and same with Holiday in the Park. And that's all for me tonight.

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Oh, the toy drive actually, our city toy drive, actually, we're still collecting toys for that. A lot of the toys from the Reverse Toy Parade will also go to that. So we'll be collecting toys and I believe the second week of December we'll be distributing those

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Oh,

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toy train

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is on, I'm sorry. Oh, that's all right.

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Is it the 8th? Okay, FEC toy train. A little background on the toy train. FEC for many years under their CEO would load a train in Jacksonville. That train would go from Jacksonville to Miami. Along the way, there were several stops. There used to be a stop.

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They would basically just stop in the middle of the tracks. They would get off, they'd give out a few toys and they would leave. When we were looking at it, members of the community, our community resource unit, myself, we were looking at it and trying to figure out a way to make that a bigger event. So after several years of talking with FEC, we were able to convince them to make the stop at Bird Plaza. One, because Bird Plaza was a good place.

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So the one year that we convinced them, we created what was called a ticket. It was a golden ticket kind of

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I'm sorry. So we kind of created that. We distributed the tickets throughout the schools and other areas. Last year, I believe we did 130 kids through that event. Again, they'll stop this year. Years in past, they usually, and they're on a very tight schedule because they have to be in Miami by a certain time.

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I believe this year they will be here for a little over an hour. So we're expecting a big event. Usually everybody starts lining up early. We do hot chocolate and cookies, and then the train arrives.

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Thank you, sir. Appreciate it.

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You're welcome.

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Finance director.

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I would like to thank council ‸ for bearing with us on this agenda.

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know the meeting was supposed to have been canceled, and we have requested to have the meeting reinstated because we were under a statutory deadline to get the budget amendment done, to clean up the budget. And it wound up there was actually a lot of city business that needed to be done. And thank you for approving all the agenda items that were related to the finance department on this agenda. Other than that, I have no report.

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Thank you. ‸ Mr.

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works.

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Yes, Mayor and Council, just one item to report. Our annual street paving and resurfacing program starts actually next month.

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area. ‸ They're not going to start in the village in December.

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curb ramps, demolish curb ramps, pour new curb ramps,

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In January, after the Christmas rush, ‸ they'll work

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Okay.

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Is that it? That's it. Okay. Thank you, sir. And Ms. Hamilton?

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I have nothing to report. Thank you.

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Mr. Walsh? Nothing

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tonight, sir.

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Thank you. Thank you, sir.

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I just wanted to report some positive news. Two weeks ago, our fire department and police department went to Cocoa

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These are students preparing for their careers for their future. Many of them don't know what they want to be when they grow up. So I've partnered with ‸ the teacher in that program to have different career categories. To attend and the students get to ask questions. And we do a brief presentation. So today I was presented with a thank you note from the students on the police and the fire. So

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well. And then on the fire department was Lieutenant Ed Bragg, Matt Holliday, and Ian Sheridan. So thank you, chiefs, for supporting it. It was really popular with the kids. They had a lot of fun. And many of them are probably going to ‸ pursue public service or public safety because of it.

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Thank you, ma'am. Ms. Celia, you have anything?

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Yes, I do. Monday, December 10th, is the Space Coast League of Cities dinner that we will be hosting. So

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office so that we can get a final count into the caterer.

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Okay. Mr. City Attorney.

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Okay. Mr. City Manager, Assistant City Manager. No report. Thank you, sir.

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Is it shovel under your desk?

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I just want to report to you that in the second week of November, the Florida League of Cities held its legislative, its annual legislative conference and adopted its legislative agenda and priorities. Some of you have it. ‸ There are two members. I will get you those. And related to that,

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January 15th, the

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will be holding its meeting to hear from ‸ local for specific requests and speakers.

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represent a fine to encourage more people to come out.

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And moved it to Palm Bay for the same reason?

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On January 7th, we have to have any specific requests that we have,

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put in a form to complete, as well as any local bills that we might. So I will be reaching out to you. You might have a late addition to the agenda for the next council meeting because of,

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trying to get this together.

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We just got the email just recently on the date that it's going to be and the change in time. Um, just want to remind everybody, uh, the Council Retreat Workshop, December 6th through 7th.

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Thank you very much.

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Mm-hmm.

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Are we going to have someone there? Uh, because I, I'd like for the entire council to be there because this is a reference to the CRA.

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That's going to

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be Tuesday of next week. And we need to get there and represent the city. And if all council could be in attendance there as well as I'm going to try to get some others to show up there as well. Uh, this is very important.

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Mr. Mayor, thank you because nobody at the county advised us that they were going to have a meeting on CRAs on Tuesday. It will be

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Tuesday.

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Well, no, they alternate. It's kind of,

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um,

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I'll look at the, I do usually get a copy of the agenda.

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haven't seen it yet. And so maybe,

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they're not. Mr. Tobias is really pushing this. So, um,

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Yes.

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one way or the other. I'll make sure we're there. I will be there.

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Yeah. And I'd like to advise all council. I mean, I don't know what you have going on with this. Very important that we be there to represent our city.

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December 4th.

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I'll reach out to the county manager to find out.

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Okay. Thank you.

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Actually, ‸ city attorney and I were talking about

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‸ The county just earlier. Right before the speeding. Right? Yeah. Okay.

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So,

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um.

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Okay. Mr. City attorney.

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Um.

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I have no report. Sorry. I missed the swearing in ceremony. No. It's all right.

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away on vacation. But I want to welcome my new council members. And Mr. Mayor, welcome back. Thank you, sir. To the city council. Looking forward to working with everybody. Um. In the new council. Thank you, sir.

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Looking forward to working with you as well. Okay. Um.

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First, I'd like to thank the, uh, the citizens and, uh, the fire department and everybody else who was involved in the, uh, turkey giveaway.

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I right, chief? Um. So, you know, let us know that when

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together, we can, we can do pretty much anything, so I would appreciate you, chief, for heading that up and everyone else that was involved with that. Um. And I just got a few questions about some updates with the citizen review board and also update on Jolie Smith Center.

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Yes. The, uh, the, the Cocoa Police, uh, Community Relations Advisory Committee was created. Uh. I know we have to do the applications and then, uh, each member of council, uh, gets to, uh, appoint one member and then the council as a whole gets to, uh, identify a non-profit social organization that serves, centered in Cocoa, serves Cocoa for the purposes of having a, a representative on the board and the PBA would, uh, also have a representative on the board. Uh,

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one, new members, the, uh, the agenda item with the resolution, uh, for that. And also we'll get you the copies of the application. Uh,

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there are soon going to be some requirements.

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there, you know, the chief and I have talked about, uh, if there was any FDLE, CGS, you know, requirements that we have to adhere to.

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It's.

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Yeah. As,

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you know, the city issued, uh, ‸ RFQ for qualified firms. Uh, we received five submissions.

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one of the firms did not have a complete submission, so they were disqualified.

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uh, and selected three firms for verbal presentations that will occur, uh, I believe it's next week. Okay. Let me make sure. Uh, yes, next week, uh, where we will, staff will narrow down, uh, to, uh, a finalist. Uh, they will have a guaranteed maximum price and then, uh, staff will be bringing a recommendation before city council. Uh, it looks like it'll probably be the January meeting, the first meeting in January, January 9th, uh, for your consideration. But, uh, just, uh, from what we've seen, uh, thus far, there's been, uh, a number of firms, uh, that, uh, you ‸ know, any one of them, I believe, would deliver a quality project.

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Good. Good. And then just, I just wanted to add to that whole deal with the citizen advisory board.

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this board is gonna ‸ consist of and what they're gonna ‸ be doing and what their powers are. Um, I just want to make it perfectly clear that this board is not about firing police officers or telling them how to do their job and how to perform their job. It's about just, um, bringing some issues to light and addressing those issues and concerns that some citizens might have. And that's all it is. I mean, because the police department has a union and, uh, they have to abide by, we have to abide by certain things with reference to their union. So this is not an effort to tell anyone how to do their job, what they should be doing, how they should be doing it. And just, um, just, um, when there's some

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just gonna ‸ address those issues and concerns and that's what this committee is gonna ‸ do. ‸ And that's it.

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and that's what we're looking at. So, but I just want to throw that out there.

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Okay. The only last, one last item was the, uh, just the chief kind of little about the question about the, uh, I know the crowd now has kind of moved back to provost.

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is there any way to, uh, what, well, I guess I actually just, well, what's the plan moving forward? Um, I know it has not been many major crimes right now, but to prevent certain things

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you know, what can happen. So

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we're, we're working to keep up daily patrols in there. Um, you know,

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um, you know, to, uh, to identify people who, um, don't belong there or aren't there for the proper reasons and then take steps to remove them.

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you know, prior to the last time and us going through this whole process, uh, we did two separate operations in there, probably 30, 40 arrests out of each one. Um,

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we also trespass people from there. So,

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Um, the officers go through that list. There's people that, you know, if you're trespassed from the park, they can't be there. So we, uh, we intend to, uh, enforce that. And hopefully that will, you know, make it so that, you know, people in the community can come in and can use the park. Kids can use ‸ the swings. Um, families can go there, you know, have a picnic and do the things that we should be doing in our parks.

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Okay. All right. Thank you. That's all. Okay. Thank

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you, sir. ‸ Okay.

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Well, uh, I'll be brief. I, sorry,

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uh, has,

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been going on for the last couple of days.

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actually had a trip planned home to Minnesota prior to being elected. So I have been trying to catch up and

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have to say that it's a humbling experience starting out and it's like drinking from a fire hose and,

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And the more you learn, the more you realize that you have much more to learn. So, uh, but even while I was away, I heard from numerous constituents and even walking into the meeting tonight, Kent handed me several things that I'll have to figure out how to handle. I'll be looking forward to that and trying to catch up.

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T and Harriet Moore Museum and that was quite, that was a great experience and,

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And even my husband who grew up here was not fully aware

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the birth, really the birth of the civil rights movement in some ways, right in this area. So, it's nice that we have that museum in Mims and that we can talk about that as part of our heritage and be proud of that,

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So, um, I was glad to hear that it's now been incorporated into the fourth grade of curriculums.

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And I'm looking forward to, you know, what we do in our

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own museums. So, um, yeah, and I think I'll just, uh, add my report there. Thank you.

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there.

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Can I just go one thing on Thanksgiving evening, we brought this bid myself and the deputy mayor here at the Walmart, we were to collect the toys for, for the children.

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seemed like it was a pretty good turnout.

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didn't stay for the whole duration, but the time I was there,

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was good, so,

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Thank you. Deputy Mayor.

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Oh, I got a long list. Sit tight, Don. We're going to be here.

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first of all, Mr.

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if I had a call from a constituent today who said that, um,

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waste management is no longer picking up, um, parts of our trash, uh, without charging extra. He has some pieces of wood where he has replaced some fence panels and stuff and they're small and he has them neatly bundled and they've been sitting there for two weeks, but they informed him they wouldn't pick them up. What are our residents supposed to do if waste management will not pick up their trash without charging them an extra fee?

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We can look into that. I believe it's probably related to the pressure treated wood.

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to pick up pressure or treated wood such as dock pieces and fences and that, uh, it has something to do with how they're handled at the landfill. It's not regular garbage or yard waste or anything else. It has to be picked up, kept separate and handled separately.

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So that's why they're charging a separate fee for that.

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Yes. It ‸ has to be handled separately from your other garbage. Are

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they paying a separate fee at the dump for that? Is that part of it? Because I would think if they're going to charge our constituents an extra fee, we should have had a contract modification coming through here. You know,

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I, I believe it's in the contract that they aren't required to pick up. They're not required.

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hazardous waste.

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that. Uh, paint cans and hazardous waste has to be handled separately.

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Well, you know, what's going to end up with this stuff, not from, from my neighbor. He's going to take care of it properly, but most people, when they find out, they're not going to pick it up. They're going to dump it on the side of the road somewhere because they're not going to take it to the dump. So we need to figure out a way to deal with this or

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because 90% of the people in this city are not going to carry that stuff to the dump.

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But thank you.

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will let, I will let him know that he's going to have to dispose of it himself or pay that extra fee. So, um, but yeah, I, I just don't see people paying that. And I mean, it's not like he took down all of his fence and has a huge stack.

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mean, it's literally this much stuff, you know, so it's just a bit much.

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I got a lot of questions during the sip and stroll the other night from people wanting to know where they can find those lights. I told them we had a special deal on the lights and they couldn't get them. But I'm also hearing that some of the merchants are being asked is, is there a vendor that we can refer for, for those? ‸ Yes, we can

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get the vendor name. They are commercial quality. Yeah. And they're quite expensive.

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And that's what I was just telling everybody. They're probably available, but these are commercial quality. But there were a couple of people who lived in neighborhoods with homeowners associations who had come, actually come over here from the central part of the state who were interested. So if we could maybe just put it on our website so we could just tell people to check on our website, you know,

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somewhere.

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Sure,

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we can do that.

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Okay, thank you.

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I will not be here for the meeting on the 12th. I will do my best to call in. The reason I won't be here is because I will be in Orlando all that week with Canine Copper and

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along with Mr. Dial and several of my friends in the dog show community.

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Canine Copper will be over there all week long competing as a confirmation show dog. And then on Saturday,

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his work

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Uh, council is all invited. You just need to

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PM on the 15th.

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it will be televised in late January, usually late January, early February, right before the Westminster Kennel Club dog show. We're hoping to get a big crowd over to support officer Hadaway and Copper. It's a pretty big recognition. Um, normally, uh, the canine officer who gets this award is a German Shepherd or a Malinois or something along those lines.

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Copper is getting it for his ability to be sweet to people.

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help the city manager with the budget. So, uh,

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call in. I work, uh, from Monday until, uh, Sunday night over there all week. It's a very, very long week. Um, for those of us who, uh, support this event, it brings in, uh, somewhere in the neighborhood of 8,000 dogs and a $30 million impact to the city of Orlando for the week. Um, and, uh, it's a really big deal.

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I said,

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uh, with the most participants during the week from Tuesday until Thursday. Uh, everything is free. You guys got some free time and you want to come over and walk around. There's vendors. There's, um, dogs of every breed imaginable. And then on the weekend, there's what they call a meet the breed where all of the breeds set up booths and you can come meet different dogs and people and talk about stuff. So, Mr. Dial's laughing because he knows how hard he's fixing to have to work for this event. So that's why he's

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there.

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for you.

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anybody who wants to come out and volunteer to help Yvonne and I and Mrs. Daniels

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Um, I'm sure ‸ we can use some extra help selling raffle tickets and stuff if anybody wants to come out and help. And then on,

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I'd already let the city clerk know I will not be able to attend that. I've got a family wedding out of town that day. And for the League of Cities dinner on, um, Monday the 10th,

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because the mayor is the one who gets to speak and stuff. It's kind of been the policy, not of any other city except us. And I kind of like it that it's always been our policy that we always eat last and let our guests eat first.

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But I think that's the polite thing to do when you're the host is to eat last. And especially since it's a holiday party. So we normally just invite everybody else to go.

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just wanted to throw that out there because, um, the last mayor didn't always want to eat last.

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I'm actually

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on a diet right now.

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Okay.

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go last, then, you know, you, there's always food left and you don't go bad about eating twice or three times as much as everybody else.

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um, deputy mayor Blanco had attended those meetings.

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Okay.

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And that is it for me.

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Okay. Thank you, ma'am. Um, John, I'm going to go ahead and see what I have to say real quick and then I'll let you go because I was going to mention Sam as well.

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Okay. So, you go? Yeah, I'll just go real quick.

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I apologize.

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No, that's okay. I'll be real

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quick.

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I gave him one thing to say and I wrote all over it and.

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I just want to make sure when,

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there's a groundbreaking or whatever happens, I want to make sure that, that, um, former mayor,

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uh,

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parishes there.

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as well. I want to give credit what credit is due as well as, um, ‸ doing the ribbon cutting that stone street.

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because that was something they initiated, something they did. And, and I think we need to give credit

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once again as well. So, um, and then also I wanted to recognize our two former council members that was here.

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Anderson. But I guess he just left. So,

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sir. Thank you.

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That's

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what I wanted to say earlier.

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Oh, okay. Thank you, sir. And then also

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I thank you, Samantha, for, uh, you know, you wrote me some, jot down some information that I needed to know and it really helped me out and I thank you for, for being there. And, uh, I was really amazed.

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and, uh, just the enthusiasm there was just, it was crazy. And like I said,

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was, there was over, no, there, there was over 7,000 runners there as well as all the well-wishers that was there. It was just, I was amazed. I was in awe and, uh, just the music and just all the excitement there. And of course, smelling those danishes and stuff down at Osorio's, you know, just kind of made you want to get out there and run. I knew it was an impossibility for me, but it just made me think it in my head that, hey, I can do this, you know.

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I knew it

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just,

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there's a lot of city employees that did run, you know, the half marathon, including Major Lewis, uh, in utilities.

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But I did see, I did see the walkers come along in ‸ there and I said, hey, I can do that. You know, but,

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I enjoyed it. And then once again, thank you, Samantha. And, uh, ‸ really do appreciate that. And, uh, I'm just going to go ahead and, and there is a lot more stuff, a lot more I wanted to talk about, but I'm just going to save it for later. But

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And then also, I want to thank, uh, rip for what he's doing with reference to the bicycles that he's assembling that we really do appreciate that.

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the

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you've been doing around the ponds

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you know, the, they, the fact that you're out at some of these different locations and actually picking up trash, we really do appreciate that, man. Cause, uh,

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and,

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And if I have to myself, I'm going to actually get out there and start picking that, that trash up at the old speedway, because that's what people see when they're driving through our city. And we want to project

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good image of our city. I mean, I mean, the previous council did a great job of moving us forward. There's some stuff that, that need to be addressed. I think, uh, with references and blight and some blighted areas in our communities and some other issues. And I just think that, you know, when you see stuff like that, then that's how you perceive that city to be. And we've had a bad image for a

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I want to be a part of that change and I want us to be a part of that change. And, uh, one thing you'd never hear from me and say, I, because, um, we're a team and whatever happens here is going to be a team. We're

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going to be a team

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effort, whether you're ‸ on the winning side or the losing side of our vote. We're still going to be a team effort. And, uh, I

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mean,

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I just hope that everybody respect that. And, uh, so I'm looking forward to working with all you guys once again. And, uh, with that being said, is

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If they fence the whole property, that'll solve a lot of our issues.

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that.

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update, uh, on the issue that the city's facing. So all of Council's aware. But, uh,

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their, uh, training, uh, for, uh, for elected officials. And I know that the mayor, uh, has been

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but basic

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26th, 27th. And so we would like to

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need a consensus of council so the clerk can, you

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know,

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process and get them registered.

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That was the best thing I ever did.

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I know you did receive an email from the, the city clerk ‸ was advised, but just, uh,

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bring back one agenda item. And so then you can make a determination at the next meeting. So we're gonna ‸ bring Samantha up because, uh, our

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community is

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facing an issue that other communities are facing and it could impact, uh, some of the things that we're doing in terms of, you know,

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uh,

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public, you know, our, the things on our website, you know, access to public records. And so just to keep you

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an update.

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Okay. Um, thank you.

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um, to kind of get our, uh, clear picture of what this is going to entail. But, um, there were some stricter guidelines that came through as far as websites are concerned and ‸ accessibility issues. Um, so, um, we have to, we're working through a plan to try to put a plan in place to make our site accessible to everyone. Um, and it's definitely something we want to strive for. Um, but it is something that's going to be very time consuming to do. Um, so we are working through a process. Um,

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so we

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have, um, gone, taken some steps already, um, to start the process and we've procured a company, um, that will help us ‸ determine what areas of our website are non-compliant and what we need to do to fix those things. So we're,

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um, when you say non-compliant, you're talking about people

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Yep. Yep. Um,

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it's hearing

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sight,

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uh, people who are colorblind. Um, there's a number of, uh, different things that it covers. Um, so it's, I mean, every little detail that you can imagine that we would have to, we kind of have to go through and work through our site. Um, we are lucky that we partner with an organization, um, for our website called Civic Plus that are, that our website is, um, I'd say very compliant, but we still have aspects that are not. And so we have to work through and, and get to that point.

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because, you know, these issues came about in January. Um, and it's not something that can happen overnight. It's, it's a process. Um, and it's going to take some time and a lot of man hours to do that. So, um, we are going to have to start, um, being very, um, particular about what we put on our website. Um, because if it's something that can't be accessible to everyone, we can't put it on our site. Um, so it may limit kind of some of the things that we do include on our website. Um, until we can get a little bit more detail and more instruction on what, um, the particulars are for that, for these rules and regulations. So.

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And I would add, I reached out to our federal lobbyists because, you know, we did, ‸ you know, the League of Cities in October did a webinar because the issues really come to

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life

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for a number of communities.

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know, expressing concerns on the Department of Justice in terms of some rulemaking. There was advanced notice on proposed rulemaking

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others.

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and local government. And, in terms of providing and creating that technical guidance and, uh, the standards, you know, to be compliant. So, uh, it,

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is an issue that, um, that, again, the League of Cities, ‸ you know, October was the first webinar and we worked with the attorney. It just, uh, I talked to Samantha earlier. I mean, there's one community. They've put in well over 600, um, staffing hours and believe they have probably about a year more to go in terms of taking documents and ensuring that they're accessible for, you know, all members of the public. So, we just want to keep you advised because it also, if you, if somebody says, well, I went on to Granicus to watch the meeting, it's,

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information.

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And with that, as, as all of us are having the meeting, make sure we want to speak into the mic so YouTube can pick ‸ up and provide the closed captioning.

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So,

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you're saying,

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they can watch it after the meeting on YouTube, there's no longer live streaming on Granicus or it's live streaming on Granicus but it's redirecting? There is. We actually,

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um, we've put a statement on our Granicus page ‸ that says if people need the closed captioning, they need to go to our YouTube page. So that's our way of being

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able to. But the

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YouTube page is like after the meeting,

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It's a live stream.

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is a live stream.

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Yes. So, yes, it, it covers video. All video has to be closed caption and it covers PDF documents as well.

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stuff like that. We're just going to have to change the way we create PDF documents from now on to make sure they're, you know, graphics are have titles on them and stuff like that. So does it also affect our social media sites or just our it does. There's going to be, we haven't really gotten to social media. We're working on trying to get our website compliant, but it will affect our social media sites. All videos will have to, you know, go through our YouTube channel just because YouTube is the only one ‸ that offers the closed captioning Facebook does not Facebook live doesn't offer it. So

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The police department utilizes our social media heavily. Especially Facebook live. Yeah. And so

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doing. We're going to have to kind of

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back and just

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to use. And we want to make sure we do it right. So it's going to be a process.

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we have to stop doing that stuff now

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or like, or can we continue to do it and just improve as we go on.

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We're in the process of trying to decide that right now we're,

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through the

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You didn't realize this was going to happen

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when you took this new position.

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you say Thank

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you ma'am. And I just

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would add that it may affect the live streaming for some of our boards.

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Okay.

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Because of the inability to do the closed captioning and ‸ some of the things. So I just would advise you. I mean,

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mean,

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There's a huge expense. I mean,

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‸ We may

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be talking to be honest,

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may be talking to the beyond some of the conversion costs, but the the need to add an ADA accessibility coordinator to our staff. From a technology standpoint. And it's so that's why we reach out to our federal lobbyists because you know, I think it would be helpful if you know, you know, in the one letter ‸ said Congress would fix it with a bill. If there would somebody would provide some guidance because you know, We don't want to go down one path and then guidance is developed and well, We spent all of our efforts and dollars in one technology and now it's going here. So

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‸ First call was to to our lobbyists Maurice to see if there was what they were aware of, you know, In terms of the issue since so many members of Congress signed that

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Yeah,

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Congress assigned it. It was bipartisan concern.

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out of here? I should have done it under my report.

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ma'am. Go ahead.

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Okay. This has nothing to do with that.

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you, Sam. Thanks.

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I would like to know why the city manager feels like that we need three uniformed officers in our council chambers when we've never had anybody beyond ‸ police chief before. I think the police chief is perfectly capable of keeping the place safe. He doesn't need backup from his lieutenants.

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Number one. Number two, we are in the process of reaching out in terms of trying to get our security firm to come in and do the assessment that was previously discussed in terms of technology and or physical security. I

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don't know who discussed it because I don't remember council voting on that. And I've been here 20 years. I've never felt unsafe in these council chambers. And I just don't see the need for it. If I was sitting out there in the public and there were three uniformed officers in the room, I might think I was in the wrong place. I don't think it makes our council chambers very inviting to have uniformed officers in the room. I'm sorry. I love those two guys, but I'm sure they have better things to do than sit here and watch us. I don't know who decided this was necessary.

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who felt a little unsafe. But I don't feel unsafe and unless the rest of the council does and they won't police here, I would appreciate them being allowed to do their jobs, which isn't sitting in the council chambers and guarding us.

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got a retreat next week, so let's kind of discuss this a little bit during a retreat.

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That's a really good idea, Mr.

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We would have gotten here a little sooner, but

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So yeah, thank you sir. All

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