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Cocoa CRA

Special Cocoa Community Redevelopment Agency Meeting

Date
2026-09-08
Status
Draft minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #1523
Built from draft minutes printed in an agenda packet — no AI-written text Briefing final

The City's record

What the City's record shows

Draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2026-10-05, pp. 6–9; approved as written by the Cocoa Community Redevelopment Agency according to the draft minutes of 2026-10-05 (that draft's own approval is not found in the records on file). The City has not posted the approved minutes as a separate file. The approving motion, “to approve the Minutes for the Special Meeting of September 8, 2026, as written”, is in the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2026-11-10 agenda packet (2608_Cocoa_CRA_Agenda_11_10_2026.pdf, packet pp. 6–12; minutes p. 2).

Built only from this meeting's draft minutes (2524_Cocoa_CRA_Agenda_Full_10_05_26.pdf, packet pp. 6–9). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Mike Blake, Alex Goins, Patricia Weeks, Lorraine Koss, Janne Etz, Candace Rogers
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines; no independent membership list of this board is available to confirm that the roll is complete.)
  • Listed absent: Lavander Hearn
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Anthony A. Garganese (Agency Attorney), Peyton Fink (Recording Secretary)
  • Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, ETZ, Lorraine Koss, Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, ROGERS (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (4)

  • to approve the Agenda for the Special meeting of September 8, 2026, as written (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Lorraine Koss); PASSED 6-0; ayes: Mike Blake, ETZ, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, ROGERS, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 2, packet pp. 6–9
  • to approve the Minutes for the Regular Meeting of August 3, 2026, as written (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Alex Goins); PASSED 6-0; ayes: Mike Blake, ETZ, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, ROGERS, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 2, packet pp. 6–9
  • to approve development items which includes a First Amendment to the CRA Redevelopment Project Agreement with 360 Hospitality Group, the Development Agreement , a Conceptual Development Plan for the future hotel at 603 Brevard Avenue, preliminary financial information, the Hotel Brand, Market … (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Mike Blake); PASSED 6-0; ayes: Mike Blake, ETZ, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, ROGERS, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 3, packet pp. 6–9
  • to adjourn the Special meeting of September 8, 2026 (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by ROGERS); PASSED 6-0; ayes: Mike Blake, ETZ, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, ROGERS, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 4, packet pp. 6–9

Draft minutes, as printed in a later agenda packet

Draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2026-10-05, pp. 6–9; approved as written by the Cocoa Community Redevelopment Agency according to the draft minutes of 2026-10-05 (that draft's own approval is not found in the records on file). The City has not posted the approved minutes as a separate file.

Source: 2524_Cocoa_CRA_Agenda_Full_10_05_26.pdf, the agenda packet of the 2026-10-05 meeting, packet pp. 6–9; lines 164–314 of the City's text of that file. The draft's header prints Monday for 2026-09-08, which was a Tuesday. The packet's own page footers are left out below.

Read the draft minutes 
MINUTES 
COCOA CRA 
September 8, 2026   
 
The Special Meeting of the Cocoa Community Redevelopment Agency was held 
on Monday, September 8, 2026, in Cocoa City Hall, in City Council Chambers, 
located at 65 Stone Street, in Cocoa, Florida, 32922, as publicly noticed. 
I. CALL TO ORDER:  
Chairperson Blake called the meeting to order at 5:05 p.m. 
 
INVOCATION: Vice Chairperson Goins led the assembly in Invocation.   
 
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE : Agency Member Weeks  led the assembly in the 
Pledge of Allegiance.   
 
 
 PRESENT:  Michael C. Blake  Chairperson 
Alex Goins   Vice Chairperson 
Patricia Weeks  Agency Member  
Lorraine Koss  Agency Member 
Janne Etz   Agency Member 
Candace Rogers   Agency Member 
Anthony Garganese  Agency Attorney  
    Peyton Fink   Recording Secretary 
 
ABSENT: Agency Member Hearn 
  
OTHER STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT: 
 
City Manager Whitten, Community Services Director Neuterman.   
II. Approval of Agenda and Minutes:      
Agenda: Special Meeting held on September 8, 2026, either as written or with 
amendments. 
 


Special Cocoa CRA Meeting  09-08-2026 
 
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* MOTION by Agency Member WEEKS; Seconded by Agency Member KOSS  
to approve the Agenda for the Special meeting of September 8, 2026, as 
written.  
 
 THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS: 
 
 AYES: BLAKE, ETZ, GOINS, KOSS, ROGERS, WEEKS. 
 THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY (6-0) 
Minutes: Regular Meeting held on August 3, 2026, either as written or with 
amendments.   
* MOTION by Agency Member WEEKS; Seconded by Vice Chairperson GOINS 
to approve the Minutes for the Regular Meeting of August 3, 2026, as written.   
 
 AYES: BLAKE, ETZ, GOINS, KOSS, ROGERS, WEEKS. 
 THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY (6-0) 
III. DELEGATIONS:   
IV. PRESENTATIONS: 
V. ACTION ITEMS: 
1. Consider the following: (1) approval of a First Amendment to the CRA 
Redevelopment Project Agreement with 360 Hospitality Group, LLC; (2) approval 
of the Development Agreement and Conceptual Development Plan approved by 
the City Council on May 12, 2026, for the future hotel at 603 Brevard Avenue, as 
well as the preliminary financial information submitted by the Developer to close 
out and confirm completion of the Phase I requirements of the Redevelopment 
Agreement by the Developer; and (3) approval of the Hotel Brand, Market 
Feasibility, and approval of the Conceptual Development Plan by the Senior 
Director of Lodging Development for Marriot Select Brands to close out and 
confirm completion of the Phase II requirements of the Redevelopment 
Agreement by the Developer.              
Director Neuterman gave a PowerPoint presentation which detailed the 
agreement. The slides included information regarding the following: today’s 
consideration, photos of the exterior, the project status at a glance, closeout 
requirements, final design & site plan approvals, construction & development, a 


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development timeline, property conveyance, CRA decision points, and the next 
steps.  
Agency Member Rogers addressed her concerns with TIF and whether this will 
leave a door open where future process could be challenged. Director 
Neuterman and the City Manager responded that the TIF application will be a 
separate process. This current item is just for the developer to move onto the 
next step.  
Vice Chairperson Goins spoke highly of this project. He understands where 
Agency Member Rogers is coming from, but the project will ultimately have a 
long-lasting economic impact on the area.  
A motion was made by Agency Member Goins, and it was seconded by 
Chairperson Blake to approve this item but with discussion.  
Agency Member Koss asked about the amendment. An employee from 360 
Hospitality Group LLC explained that there were two items that needed to be 
completed and it is a little early for them. One item is the bonding ability of the 
vendor while the other involves financials, and they cannot get a final 
commitment letter from the bank until they have the proper documentation.  
* MOTION by Vice Chairperson GOINS; Seconded by Chairperson BLAKE to 
approve development items which includes a First Amendment to the CRA 
Redevelopment Project Agreement with 360 Hospitality Group, the 
Development Agreement , a Conceptual Development Plan for the future 
hotel at 603 Brevard Avenue, preliminary financial information,  the Hotel 
Brand, Market Feasibility, and the Conceptual Development Plan.  
 
 AYES: BLAKE, ETZ, GOINS, KOSS, ROGERS, WEEKS. 
 THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY (6-0) 
Kurtis Vangeloff shared his concerns about parking in Cocoa. He then provided   
some ideas that he has to address these problems. Agency Member Etz would 
be happy to discuss these concerns with him. The Chairperson then explained to 
Mr. Vangeloff that he will need to take his concerns to staff.  
VI.  ATTORNEY REPORT: None 
VI. UPDATES AND STAFF REPORTS: 
Director Neuterman reminded everyone that next Monday is another Cocoa CRA 
Meeting so the agenda will be published sometime later this week. It was pointed 


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out by the Chairperson that next week is Space Coast League of Cities so we may 
need to rethink the upcoming meeting.  
Agency Member Goins believes the board has done a great job with parking,  but 
it can get busy at concerts, and he likes the idea of parking  garages. The 
Chairperson believes in the legitimacy of the concerns that have been mentioned 
and we will continue to address them.  
VIII.  NEXT MEETING DATE: 
Monday, September 14, 202 6, at 6:00 pm in the Council Chambers located in 
Cocoa City Hall, 65 Stone Street, Cocoa, Florida.              
 
IX.  ADJOURNMENT: 
 *
 MOTION by Agency Member WEEKS; Seconded by Agency Member
ROGERS to adjourn the Special meeting of September 8, 2026.
 AYES: BLAKE, ETZ, GOINS, KOSS, ROGERS, WEEKS. 
 THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY (6-0)
 The meeting adjourned at 5:41 p.m.
 ________________________________
       Michael C. Blake, Chairperson
 Respectfully Submitted by:
  ______________________________
 Peyton Fink, Recording Secretary

Agenda (the City's wording)

Time links are automatic matches to the machine transcript and may be off.

An item without a time link may still have been discussed; the link is only added when the automatic match is strong.

I. CALL TO ORDER

  • 1. Invocation
  • 2. Pledge of Allegiance
  • 3. Roll Call

II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA AND MINUTES

  • 1. Agenda: Special Meeting of September 8, 2026.
  • 2. Minutes: Regular Meeting of August 3, 2026.

III. DELEGATIONS

IV. PRESENTATIONS

V. ACTION ITEMS

  • 1. Consider the following: (1) approval of a First Amendment to the CRA Redevelopment Project Agreement with 360 Hospitality Group, LLC; (2) approval of the Development Agreement and Conceptual Development Plan approved by the City Council on May 12, 2026, for the future hotel at 603 Brevard Avenue, as well as the preliminary financial information submitted by the Developer to close out and confirm completion of the Phase I requirements of the Redevelopment Agreement by the Developer; and (3) approval of the Hotel Brand, Market Feasibility, and approval of the Conceptual Development Plan by the Senior Director of Lodging Development for Marriott Select Brands to close out and confirm … — 00:11:30

VI. ATTORNEY’S REPORT

VII. UPDATES AND STAFF REPORTS

VIII. NEXT MEETING DATE - September 14, 2026 at 6:00 PM

IX. ADJOURNMENT

Transcript Partial transcript

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changed my surgery now to 8 a.m. which I'm glad of
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still hope to be here ‸ see but I would set them there thank you
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assuming that's something I don't care about yes ma'am
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I'm here just getting a cup of coffee
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worries okay
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that you were just looking at.
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oh Okay, hold on.
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it's a
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a city council meeting? Council
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Okay, I guess we're waiting on the other two.
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Just wanted to speak ladies. Okay. Hey, Wildcats.
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Greetings everyone.
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Is it September the 8th?
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is ‸ 2026. Okay, invocation will be performed by
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member Weeks. Would everyone secure your cell phones, please? Ladies and gentlemen.
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Thank you for another day of life, health and strength. Lord blesses that we go through this meeting and we make sound
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Bless the entire city.
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this entire board. Also the staff of the city. In Jesus name we pray. Amen.
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Amen.
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pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. ‸ Okay, Mr. Peyton Fink, sir. May we do roll call, sir?
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Yes, sir. Chairperson Blake. Present, sir.
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Chairperson Goins. Here. Agents member Weeks. Here.
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member Koss.
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Here.
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Agents member Etz.
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Agents member Rogers.
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Agents the Attorney Garganese.
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Thank you.
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Well, let me be first to say, it is a pleasure to see everyone's
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the place with the human race. We've survived and endured and persevered these last few days of torrential rain. Myself
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we were baptized thoroughly. Sunday, right? First Sunday of the month. So, yes, indeed. Quite ‸ a treat. Okay,
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Agenda special meeting of September the 8th. What are the wishes of the agency? Move to approve. We got a motion on floor by agency member Weeks. Second. Oh, she got it.
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gonna ‸ call the question. All in favor saying
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Ayes have it unanimously. Proceeding on to delegations, do we have any cards?
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Thank you, sir. Presentations, I see none. One and only item for tonight, item action number five. This is a no-brainer.
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Agreement with 360 Hospitality Group, LLC.
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Conceptual Development Plan approved by the City Council on May 12, 2026 for
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and confirm completion of phase one, the ‸ requirements of the Redevelopment Agreement by the developer.
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by the Senior Director of Lodging Development for Marriott. Select brands close out. ‸ Select brands to close out and confirm completion of phase two requirements of the Redevelopment Agreement by the developer. And the Vice Chairperson, going. Yes, sir. Is this your district? Yes, sir. Okay, sir. Don't be quick. Okay, sir. Mrs. Noodleman. Ma'am, the floor is yours. If you have anything you would like to share with us, please.
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I do have a short PowerPoint just to go over the ‸ steps to get to this agreement.
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So, let's go
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So, as you noted in the request tonight, the first consideration by the agency is to consider the approval of the First Amendment to the CRA ‸ Redevelopment ‸ Plan with the 360 Hospitality Group. There are items that were in phases one and two that we are moving to phase three in order to align with the activities that are in phase three, which is the site plan and the construction side ‸ of the project.
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The second one is to consider the development agreement and conceptual development plan that was approved by the City Council on May 12th, which includes all the preliminary financial information required to close out phase one. The preliminary financial information was available for review in the City Clerk's Office. And I know that several of you did take the time to go in and review those those documents. And thank you for doing so.
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third item, as you noted, was the phase two closeout, which will be to consider the hotel brand market feasibility study.
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of the phase two requirements. This is one of the conceptual drawings of the ‸ hotel. This is the front entrance to the hotel.
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You have a copy of all of the conceptual pieces in your packet on your at the dais, which shows all the different angles plus the interior and the rooftop area.
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which phase two is the market feasibility study with the brand review, conceptual development plan information. And we have met several times here with the agency about each of those items. And we do have a letter in the attachment to your agenda from Marriott confirming approval of the conceptual development plan that has been submitted to them. And then phase three, which is what if you approve tonight, we will go into final engineering and site plan approval, which will be planning and zoning meeting plus two city council meetings. And there are several milestones for approvals.
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going to go into infrastructure of the offsite improvements with vertical construction. And then ultimately the final certificate of occupancy. ‸ Talked about the closeouts of phase one and two, which we are working towards for approval tonight. And just so that the agency knows tonight, this is the final opportunity for the CRA to request any adjustments to the conceptual development plan. And once we pass through this item tonight, no other additional changes to the conceptual development plan can be made outside of this agency or inside this agency. Phase three final design and site plan approval. We have the final engineering site plan approval. And then there's a six month milestone. Final engineering and site plan approval must occur within six months of the phase three commencement date. The commencement date would be tonight once approval is is granted. So should the agency choose to approve it? Then when we go into phase four, we have construction and development.
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begin construction of infrastructure and offsite improvements. Twelve months to begin the vertical construction and 36 months to obtain the certificate of occupancy. And this is all noted within the agreements.
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And
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hotel
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Should everything move as planned.
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you know, the agency, you still own the property. Uh, conveyance of property will not occur until after the developer obtains final site plan approval for the project.
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So we anticipate that within the next 12 months that the developer will ask for conveyance of the property. So they can begin their offsite and site plan improvements.
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And we do have the developer here present if you have any questions and I'm available for questions if you have any as well. Thank you.
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Do we have any questions for Mrs. Newman?
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did.
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Yes, ma'am. Agency member Rogers, ma'am.
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Um, I would, I have a question. I did come in and look at the financials that were held at the clerk's office. And, um, and I went through what I picked up. And our brochures are the implant measurements, which was referenced as the feasibility study. Is that not correct? Yes, ma'am. That is the, that was referenced as the feasibility study. Okay. Um, the implant measures short term economic activity, not long term fiscal returns.
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in the clerk's office, they did a with TIF and without TIF. Okay. Okay.
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this is a short term view, it's, um, it just tracks direct, indirect and induced impacts from construction and early operations. We don't have, or I have not seen anything that talks about a fiscal model projecting TIF revenue through 2041. So if we
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Do we not set up a procedural, uh, projection for the developer to go straight to asking for TIF without submitting a longterm physical economic impact? Is that correct
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or not? So there will be a separate TIF application, which has a more detailed, uh, requirements.
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agreement.
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question I had, the lawyer was if we approve tonight without this being ‸ included as a feasibility,
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a procedural way for, to bypass that? Because they would say you already voted on the feasibility.
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provided everything and you already approved it.
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this, on the financial aspects of the project. And I think he's preoccupied at the moment. I mean, as, as Charlene indicated, there is a, there's going to be a separate TIF application that's going to be submitted related to this project. So that, that will be coming to this board. I mean, if your question is, do you have the car before the horse? Is that maybe a financial feasibility?
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saying you're leaving a door open that could be challenged because we are not stipulating here that that would have to be submitted. We're saying you have already achieved a physical, I mean, the feasibility studies, economic feasibility, feasibility studies based on five-year implant, which is short term.
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So normally
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when somebody comes and asks us for TIF, they, they have
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economic impact study.
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But,
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yeah, ask.
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let me, let me.
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Jump in, in the middle without actually hearing the whole question. But, um, so this is not, uh, an approval of the TIF tonight. This is not, uh, their request for TIF tonight. So, so remember the TIF is a, is a different application process with its own criteria there.
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and the TIF process. And that's a presentation, I do believe, of a different financial sort of standard.
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But it, it actually, um, asked them to actually take us through the, uh, the why of their need for the TIF there. So I think it's.
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Maybe we should separate that out so that that's delineated and
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clear that that's not what we're doing here tonight.
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Yeah. That's, that's not what you're doing tonight. Right.
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‸ That wasn't the request. There was three items, but
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So it indicates to me that they want to have that opportunity.
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And they, they want to have that opportunity. That does not. There's a preliminary application for the TIF that has to get passed on for them to go for final application.
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Okay.
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So what I'm saying then, I guess, is that we're not approving anything for TIF. You are not. It's a separate, separate matter. And
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when somebody does, they must have that economic long-term impact.
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we'll, we'll go over when we get to that point, we'll go over
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I don't have the financial information. In front of me, but I think they show it both ways, right? Yeah. Financial preliminary financial
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Right.
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So this proceeding is no, if the, if the, if the board approves this, I think the app, the applicant knows that there's no guarantee that they will get a TIF. They will have to fund that amount that they are, you know, estimating, right? With TIF through some other means.
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Right. Right.
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It'll be a separate application process. Yes.
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Separate application process. This is just to advance the project for another step forward in a multi-step process.
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Right.
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I just want to be clear.
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That we're not locking ourselves into any kind of. Yeah.
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Hey, we can.
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said you could do this.
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can ask, we can ask their representative to stand up because I think they understand that tonight's, tonight's decision will not guarantee.
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Any TIF contribution from, from this agency.
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I think what I'm saying, what we've seen here would not support a long-term impact study that would be required for TIF.
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you.
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so, and so I think any sort
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I don't want
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call it pro forma, but it's going to be in their financial projections there. So, so they're going to project out the TIF revenues when they submit the application and, and they justify the use of those, uh, revenues to meet, um, I guess I will say the pro forma, you know.
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It will be additional information provided, you know, it's, it's just.
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But is it independent?
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Define independent, ma'am. I mean, I understand the word independent by itself, but.
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It's not generated by Marriott or it, they actually get a consulting team. Correct.
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Council. So they know what an economic impact study is. It's done by an outside.
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And they describe the long term economic impact. Whether it's tourism impact of the county of Brevard.
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Yes, we will provide that that when we move forward with the TIF application.
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Yeah. We're only
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talking about these three steps. Am I correct? So let's keep it simple.
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it simple, ladies and gentlemen.
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There's also a difference between economic impact and financial feasibility for the project, you know. And so and so we're sort of blending the two of the of the sort of economic impact. I think that was the sort of the market feasibility and and some of those things that are in there. But again, you know, as the mayor said and as we've said there, that that'll come to you separately. I think they I think they probably I don't know who worked up your numbers in terms of the financials there.
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‸ So I think it was done by an outside firm. But again, we can answer those questions when we get back to the actual TIF application.
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State your name just for the record, please. So Victor Watson, real estate attorney representing the applicant.
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OK.
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All right. Vice chairperson going, sir.
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Yeah. Motion to approve one, two and three. ‸ But only thing I would say. I don't ‸ know if
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going to satisfy some. But
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But it's still they are hiring this this firm. So. Regardless of what the documents show,
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impact to our city and our village in this entire county. I believe that I've seen their work as
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But I do understand exactly where you're coming from.
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But I don't
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that's on the on the board itself because they're they're still going to hire that person. And when they hire that person,
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Right. And so I don't know if that is going to satisfy us, but I believe and I think we all believe that the project is going to be long lasting. And so that's why I made a ‸ motion to approve all three.
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We have a motion on the floor and a second by the chair and I'm open for discussion. I will. I'm just having a discussion with us just right now. I'll give the public a chance. Yes,
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And I like Fairfield because they have free breakfast. I know, right? I always go there.
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Me too. Me too. Oh
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we can find who likes to eat. ‸ Everyone. ‸ Hot
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breakfast.
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Okay. So are you finished? Yes, sir. Okay. Agency member calls.
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Yeah, I don't know. I'm just a little slow tonight. So we're considering the first amendment to the redevelopment project. So what's the amendment exactly? So we changed the order.
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There ‸ were two items. I think one was the bonding ability of the builder.
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Uh-huh.
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And it's just a little early for that. I mean, they don't have the plans. We don't have all that. It's more like in the, you know, we get the permits. We hire the builder. We do all that. Then we show, yes, this builder can ‸ be bonded. Who's the other one, Charlene? ‸ Finding finance commitment.
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financing. The binding finance agreement.
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Okay. So we got a letter from the people that we're working with on financing. And it said
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But we can't get the final commitment letter from a bank until we say,
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Here's everything.
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We're ready to, you know, start within six or eight months. It's just a little too early to get a final commitment letter from a lender.
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Okay.
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Great.
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That clarifies it.
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Thank you.
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Any other agency members have any questions? I simply believe in protocol. I do endorse our staff. I do believe in our leadership here at the city of Cocoa and the leadership of the CRA. We will be transparent. Matter of fact, above board. Excellent questions. We want to clear the air. But I'm a firm believer in doing things decent and in order. And we've been doing this. I've been doing this for 18 years now. And never have
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council
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or CRA, staff, or leadership of Cocoa failed us yet. And I'm happy to say that. So thank you all. Any other questions for staff before we proceed for you? You'll get a chance from the audience. I just want to make sure we have this dialogue and we have a motion on the floor. Any other questions from the agency members? Thank you for your questions. If you have a comment or a question, you may come to the podium. You must submit a card pertaining to only this item. Do I have a card for this?
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‸ Mr. Vangeloff wants to talk about properties or sites
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item.
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Yes,
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Okay. I don't have a problem with that. What are the wishes of the agencies? Members?
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Aye. Any nays? Young man, come forward. State your name for us, please.
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sir. Give me one moment. Thank you. I just want to see if anybody wants to talk about this item and then I'll bring it back and then we'll vote. My apologies.
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Going twice. All right. We have a motion on the
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Just gonna ‸ call the question. All in favor ‸ saying aye. Aye.
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Any
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nays? welcome forward let's move forward
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thank you very much let's give him a round of applause. Thank you, staff. okay Young man, is that okay now? Paisano, can I let him come up and talk about his item before we go to uh your report and updates? Yes, sir. Thank you.
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Mr. Mayor, he has some hearing challenges, too, so.
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Okay.
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I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Curtis Vangeloff.
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um I have a few concerns. I've been talking to a lot of the shop owners out here. I
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This ‸ first time I've been in here. um There seem to be a lot of concerns. One of them is a parking issue. We're trying to have more space for people to
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the economy. The more people we can get in here comfortably and safely is going to allow the economy to grow. it It'll be more people coming into the shops, more people coming into the restaurants and bars, and especially when we have venues over at the amphitheater. um It's insane. I was over at the Pepper concert last Saturday night. There's not enough space down here for that kind of stuff for people to come in and actually enjoy it. and The infrastructure ‸ set up to where the automobile traffic is kind of a hindrance. um That's something else I'll talk about later. um
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uh ‸ getting in touch with the owner to either purchase that property or if I could ‸ convince the council to take the property that's down the street here across from where the hotel with the upstairs lounge is going to be and put in a two or three level parking garage.
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‸ Like
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I said, I'll buy the property across the street ‸ do it myself, but uh then I'll make
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money off of it instead of you guys. It'll probably pay
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a lot of other concerns, and to get to those, I would really have to have a private meeting with you guys, but I would like to put a motion on the floor today to open
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I've been out here and I've
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properties that aren't being kept up with. You've got drainage problems over here on the side street going down to the boat ramp. that stinks like mad. People do not want to come to a stinky place. That's why
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and Key West. We want them to come here instead. As mayor, I would make sure that that happened.
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to take care of any engineering problem, take care of the concerns of all of the people out here that are trying to run a business, and bring it to you accordingly
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making them feel good, bringing more people into this area that aren't coming for different reasons, and growing this economy.
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And that's pretty much
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I
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don't think you've ever been in my store, but I would be delighted to sit down with you and talk about some of your concerns. Parking has been an issue for the entire 34 years
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many things that are being addressed. I
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know.
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So you need some answers, and I would be happy to talk to you about it both as a as an agency member and as a business owner and
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a long time and I'd be delighted to to talk with you. My shop is at 218
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to Cafe Margot.
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I'm in there from 11 to 6 tomorrow and Thursday. If you would like to drop in, we'll do some chatting.
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That'd be wonderful. Thank you for the invitation. ‸ And is it Mrs. or Miss or?
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Just
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for the invitation and I'll definitely come by and see you tomorrow. okay Before
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you
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That's the person you would like to have a dialogue
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gentleman to her left,
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I mean, it's great to collaborate with us here, but I mean, it has to get to their desk first and foremost. I
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understand. Before
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it gets to our desk.
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Yeah, everybody's got through procedures and I don't want to break any of them. I'm
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a protocol guy. Okay. Just like yourself. And I'm gonna ‸ hold you to what you said if you have the proper financial background. and
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‸ Yes. There
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you go.
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I've been around this block many, many times. Okay. And ‸ there's not a whole lot of information, education, and experience that has to do with anything to do with the infrastructure of this city that I wouldn't be able to talk to somebody about or get handled.
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‸ I was born and reared here.
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‸ God bless you.
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God bless you back, ‸ When I'm homegrown, that's the difference. All right. Good. All right. Thank you, sir. Thank you.
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Thank you.
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any updates and staff reports, ma'am?
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uh The only report I have is, as a reminder, next Monday, the 14th, we do have our other CRA meeting that was normally scheduled for September, so at
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o'clock. So the agenda will be published this week uh
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Any other comments comments from the ideas? um Agency members, vice chairperson, goings sir. uh i
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done a great job with
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we've done a pretty good job at bringing parking into um into the village. Could it be better? I mean, yeah, always. But I believe we've we've maxed out a lot of properties that we do own, with the exception of you know the five-acre parcels and things of that nature. But uh we have
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That's how many parking stalls is that? About 90 stalls. We have the street park street parking that we did. We have the um um park Lee Winter Park as
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done pretty good, I believe so.
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Hey, look, I'm gonna ‸ be honest with you. uh Just like many of you all, it's not the first time I heard people come up and make statements. I'm not saying his statement is not uh sincerely genuine, but I'm saying, too, it's not our first riddle rodeo
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‸ Right,
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right. um But, you know, that's why we have our website. And that's why we have our leadership here, from from our directors all the way down to our city attorney and city manager, and to us here. There's seven of us here. so so So my thing is, we will continue to keep the pulse of the people, keep our eyes open and our ears open. um September the 14th, um
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Go ahead, ma'am. Share what you want to share. ‸ Well, we have Space
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Coast League of Cities next Monday night as well. So I don't know what. Something to ponder. That's all we're saying.
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Because I know what. um well
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late
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to get out
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Just take a look at it. um
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come back and review it. You don't have to make a comment now. Please review it. okay I'll
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discuss it.
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Yes, ma'am. Yes, sir. oh okay
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go And that is I'll plant you now and I will dig your land.
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uh We have a motion on the floor by agency member Weeks and a
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All in favor saying aye. Aye. any nays.
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Meetings adjourned.
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keep living, my beautiful...

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