City Council

City Council Meeting - 1st Budget Hearing

Date: 2026-09-09
Status: Draft minutes and machine transcript available
Source: CivicClerk event #1521

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Attendance (the roll call)

Listed present when the roll was taken: Mike Blake, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks
(Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines.)
Absences: the minutes print an “ABSENT” heading with no names under it.
Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Anthony A. Garganese (City Attorney), Stockton Whitten (City Manager), Lori Chabot (Recording Secretary), Abigail Morgan (Public Works Director), Rebecca Bowman (Finance Director), Charlene Neuterman (Community Services Director), Jonathan Lamm (Fire Chief), Evander Collier IV (Police Chief), Jack Walsh (Utilities Director), Lorne Stinnett (HR Director), Mary Humbert (Director of Business Systems and Innovation), Mitch Lawyer (Interim Chief Technology Officer), David Grissom (Helpdesk Support Tech)
Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (9)

1. Agenda: City Council 1st Budget Hearing of September 9, 2026. (2026-348) — to approve the agenda with an amendment to allow public input after item III.1, the Millage Rate discussion (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 2, packet pp. 13–21
to give staff a couple of weeks to work on horizontal and vertical drainage at Stradley Park and bring it back for guidance (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 5, packet pp. 13–21
to approve Resolution No. 2026-071 adopting a tentative millage rate of 6.9532 mills for the City of Cocoa, commencing on October 1, 2026, and ending September 29, 2027 (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 3-2; ayes: Mike Blake, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn; nays: Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks — the draft minutes p. 5, packet pp. 13–21
to approve Resolution No. 2026-072 adopting the FY 2027 tentative budget for the City of Cocoa Fiscal Year, commen cing on October 1, 2026, and ending September 30, 2027 (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 3-2; ayes: Mike Blake, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn; nays: Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks — the draft minutes p. 7, packet pp. 13–21
2. Consider on First Reading Ordinance 15 -2026, Adopting the City’s Five -Year Schedule of Capital Improvements in Accordance with the Comm — to approve Ordinance No. 15-2026, adopting the City’s five-year Schedule of Capital Improvements in accordance with the Community Planning Act , on First reading (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 3-2; ayes: Mike Blake, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn; nays: Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks — the draft minutes p. 7, packet pp. 13–21
to break for a ten-minute recess (the minutes print this motion after the heading “2. Consider on First Reading Ordinance 15 -2026, Adopting the City’s Five -Year Schedule of Capital Improvements in Acco”; the motion's own words do not name that item) (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED; ayes: Mike Blake, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Lavander Hearn, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 8, packet pp. 13–21
2. Consider on First Reading Ordinance 15 -2026, Adopting the City’s Five -Year Schedule of Capital Improvements in Accordance with the Comm — to resume the meeting (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Lavander Hearn, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 8, packet pp. 13–21
to all remaining funds (less the 2 grills) for Junny Rios be reallocated to Stradley Park (moved by Lavander Hearn, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 3-2; ayes: Mike Blake, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn; nays: Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks — the draft minutes p. 9, packet pp. 13–21
to adjourn the meeting (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 9, packet pp. 13–21

Motions not adopted (2)

1. Agenda: City Council 1st Budget Hearing of September 9, 2026. (2026-348) — to push item IV.1 to a future date (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Lorraine Koss); FAILED 3-2; ayes: Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: Mike Blake, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn — the draft minutes p. 2, packet pp. 13–21 (the printed tally and the ballot names read from the minutes' text disagree)
to approve $147,500 plus contingency for items at Junny Rios for an amount of $162,500, for discussion (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Lorraine Koss); FAILED 3-2; ayes: Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: Mike Blake, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn — the draft minutes p. 8, packet pp. 13–21 (the printed tally and the ballot names read from the minutes' text disagree)

Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)

$147,500 — Council: in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): named in a motion that was not adopted. “approve $147,500 plus contingency for items at Junny Rios for an amount of $162,500, for discussion” (motion result: FAILED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2026-11-10 agenda packet (2624_11_10_2026_Ag; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2026-11-10, pp. 13–21; not yet approved)
$162,500 — Council: in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): named in a motion that was not adopted. “approve $147,500 plus contingency for items at Junny Rios for an amount of $162,500, for discussion” (motion result: FAILED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2026-11-10 agenda packet (2624_11_10_2026_Ag; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2026-11-10, pp. 13–21; not yet approved)

Draft minutes, as printed in a later agenda packet

Draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2026-11-10, pp. 13–21; not yet approved.

Source: 2624_11_10_2026_Agenda_Packet_Public_Portal.pdf, the agenda packet of the 2026-11-10 meeting, packet pp. 13–21; lines 428–773 of the City's text of that file. The packet's own page footers are left out below.

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MINUTES
City of Cocoa
City Council Special Meeting
September 9, 2026
A Special City Council Meeting was held on Wednesday, September 9, 2026, in
Cocoa City Hall, in City Council Chambers, located at 65 Stone Street, in Cocoa,
Florida, 32922, as publicly noticed.

I. Opening Matters:

Mayor Blake called the meeting to order at 5:15 p.m.

Rachad Wilson led the assembly in the Pledge of Allegiance and Linda Graham
led the assembly in the Invocation.

The Recording Secretary took the roll.

PRESENT: Michael C. Blake Mayor
Alex Goins Deputy Mayor
Lavander Hearn Councilmember
Lorraine Koss Councilmember
Patricia Weeks Councilmember
Anthony Garganese City Attorney
Stockton Whitten City Manager
Lori Chabot Recording Secretary

ABSENT:

OTHER STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT:

Abigail Morgan, Public Works Director; Rebecca Bowman , Finance Director;
Charlene Neuterman, Community Services Director; Jonathan Lamm, Fire Chief;
Evander Collier, Police Chief; Jack Walsh, Utilities Director; Lorne Stinnett, HR
Director; Mary Humbert, Director of Business Systems and Innovation ; Mitch
Lawyer, Interim Chief Technology Officer; and David Grissom, Helpdesk Support
Tech.
II. Approval of Agenda:

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1. Agenda: City Council 1st Budget Hearing of September 9, 2026. (2026-348).

* MOTION by Councilmember Weeks; Seconded by Councilmember Koss to
push item IV.1 to a future date.
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:
AYES: Koss, Weeks
NAYS: Blake Goins, Hearn
MOTION FAILED (3-2)
* MOTION by Mayor Blake; Seconded by Deputy Mayor Goins to approve the
agenda with an amendment to allow public input after item III.1, the Millage
Rate discussion.

THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:

AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)

III. Public Hearings:

1(a). Conduct a Public Hearing on the Tentative Millage Rate and the Tentative FY2027
Budget; and adopt Resolution No. 2026 -071 adopting a tentative millage rate of
6.9532 mills for the City of Cocoa, commencing on October 1, 2026, and ending
September 29, 2027.
Director Bowman spoke about the process to consider the millage rate. She
provided the current rate as well as the rollback if adopted. The next budget
hearing is set for September 23, 2026, at 5:05 pm.
She also provided dollar amounts with each rate and its impacts to the budget.
The City Manager shared information related to the rolled-back rate and taxable
value.
The presentation continued with an overview of the general fund, water/sewer and
stormwater funds as well as the Capital Improvement Plan and capital requests.
Speakers:
Rachad Wilson, President of Cocoa Youth Athletics, spoke about the little league
and expressed his frustration with the fields at Stradley Park. He discussed details

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as to the conditions there and what has happened at the last few games. The kids
are playing on muddy fields and getting hurt.
City Manager Whitten shared some history of Stradley Park and what
improvements have been made over the years.
Alicia Phillips spoke about her work at Stradley and the dollars raised. She noted
that there are almost four hundred kids in cheer and football. She also discussed
the conditions at the fields.
Megan Pugliese, a cheer coach at Cocoa High School, also spoke about Stradley
Park and the conditions there. She is grateful for the septic replacements, but the
fields are still flooded. In response, Deputy Mayor Goins recommended that she
get with the County to give her a dollar amount for repairs.
A concerned Little League team mother shared her worries about the reputation of
the park due to the problems at the field. She added that she has been hearing
complaints from other teams as well.
Jarad Noble also spoke about the fields and needs there. He said it is the worst
looking field in the Atlantic conference. In response, Mayor Blake explained we are
currently dealing with a field built in the 60’s/70’s and we are now still playing on
the same infrastructure. The City is trying to address the park issues and find the
funds. The infrastructure needs to be replaced.
Crystal Wald, Cocoa Little League Secretary , spoke about Stradley Park as well,
sharing that she spoke in April, and then spoke with Terry Lane at Brevard County
about the maintenance work. Since the work was done , the baseball fields have
become much worse. She is asking for the city to help with making fields safer.
Councilmember Koss asked what kind of analysis has been done.
City Manager Whitten replied they have been to the fields as late as today . He
spoke about the agreement that the city has with Brevard County and its terms.
The area is low, swampy and will hold water. The ultimate solution is turf but there
may be something that can be done in the interim.
City Manager Whitten shared a presentation outlining the Recreation District ’s
history. He discussed the agreement with the County and stated this park was
created via property tax back in the 60’s. In the Mid 80’s, an interlocal partnership
was created, where the County manages the maintenance and the city is
responsible financially. This was updated recently but the terms are still similar.

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He also discussed the level of services outlined in the agreement. If repair costs
are more than $5,000, the city is responsible. He also shared the projects/work the
city has done at the fields. The new field improvements estimate would be
$495,000. This still does not address the underlying issues (infrastructure
underground).
Councilmember Koss asked about Provost Park. In response, City Manager
Whitten replied there are no baseball/softball fields.
Director Walsh added that , for the infrastructure, he would recommend a drain
system/collection means which would be a very big undertaking.
Director Morgan also added there is a ditch along the south boundary that also
gets a good amount of drainage from Clearlake Road and along Rosa L Jones
Street. It outflows into the ditch going south.
Councilmember Koss asked what the county knows about the conditions. In
response, City Manager Whitten replied they were out there today laying sod.
Councilmember Hearn discussed his recollection of the agreement that was made.
He talked about using the land south of the park, which may help.
City Manager Whitten clarified that there are two parcels south of the park.
Director Morgan discussed the retention areas and the two parcels. She explained
the path of the water and shared that she spoke with a vendor asking how much it
would be to redirect the water flow. She elaborated on the process.
Councilmember Hearn added the water is running from the neighborhood to the
park. He further asked about the County’s tourist tax.
City Manager Whitten shared the requirements involved in order to get that kind of
tax. Councilmember Hearn expressed he wouldn’t want to allocate short term
dollars unless there is a long-term plan.
Councilmember Weeks asked for further clarification on what Director Morgan
shared. In response, Director Morgan explained that she was referring to the
Swails and ditches.
Mayor Blake asked about using Provost Park. He also asked how long temporary
fixes would last. In response, City Manager Whitten explained that it is hard to
say.
Mayor Blake suggested moving football to Provost Park during offseason and
make necessary repairs.

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Director Morgan spoke about the design of a new park and would incorporate
stormwater, retention areas, etc.
Deputy Mayor Goins explained how the water was pooling. He thinks there might
be an opportunity to add a pond. In response, Director Morgan shared that it looks
like there has been changes in grading in recent years. It creates dry retention.
The area could be an opportunity for an additional pond and would come off the
field.
Councilmember Koss suggested reaching out to Eastern Florida State College to
see if they might partner with the city on this project and/or offer any grants.
City Manager Whitten asked Council to give staff a couple of weeks to work on
something and bring it back with solutions.
* MOTION by Deputy Mayor Goins; Seconded by Councilmember Koss to give
staff a couple of weeks to work on horizontal and vertical drainage at
Stradley Park and bring it back for guidance.
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:

AYES: Blake, Goins, Hearn, Koss, Weeks
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)
Director Bowman finished the presentation on the millage rate and stated that the
millage rate being proposed to Council is 6.5932.
Mayor Blake closed the discussion to Council, and opened it to the public for input.
There being no questions or comments, the public portion of the discussion was
closed.
* MOTION by Mayor Blake; Seconded by Deputy Mayor Goins to approve
Resolution No. 2026-071 adopting a tentative millage rate of 6.9532 mills for
the City of Cocoa, commencing on October 1, 2026, and ending September
29, 2027.
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:

AYES: Blake, Goins, Hearn
NAYS: Koss, Weeks
THE MOTION CARRIED (3-2)

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Director Bowman spoke about the process of the budget and shared the details of
the funds, revenue sources, taxes, various services, and other revenue sources.
Additionally, she also spoke about the CIP Improvement Plan and shared details
of that and the major capital requests.
1(b). Adopt Resolution No. 2026-072 adopting the FY tentative budget and CIP for the
City of Cocoa Fiscal Year, commending on October 1, 2026, and ending
September 30, 2027.
Speakers:
Charlene Dewitt, representing Matthews Hope, spoke about Stradley Park and she
hopes that same kind of discussion can be had about the homeless.
Gregg Stoll, representing Space Coast TPO, spoke about the Brevard Museum
and shared details and history of the museum.
Mayor Blake asked about perimeters if there are reductions in the budget. For
example, health care, infrastructure, roadway projects, and public safety are all off
limits. He recommends considering other areas to cut, possibly museums.
City Manager Whitten asked for direction as to w here to cut $173,000 from the
budget.
Councilmember Koss agrees not to touch police or fire. She mentioned a
contingency amount as well other options such as reducing council expenses, or
reducing executive staff raises to five percent.
Deputy Mayor Goins asked about the contingency Councilmember Koss
mentioned, and Director Bowman explained.
Councilmember Weeks asked recurring balance policy. In response, Director
Bowman stated that Council approved this policy, and she explained how and
when fund balance can and cannot be used.
Councilmember Weeks asked if the policy could be changed. Director Bowman
replied that it could, however that would create other concerns.
Mayor Blake took a poll of councilmember s and asked if they were willing to
change their district requests in order to go to the rollback rate.
Deputy Mayor Goins replied no.
Councilmember Hearn said no.

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Councilmember Weeks replied she does not plan on changing.
Councilmember Koss replied no.
City Manager Whitten added to the Mayor’s thoughts, stating that regarding the
tax bill, citizens pay fourteen different taxes and only one is controlled by the City
of Cocoa.
City Manager Whitten discussed the budget categories. The Interim Chief
Technology Officer, Mr. Lawyer, discussed the quote for the phone replacement
and how the costs have increased.
Councilmember Weeks shared her thoughts on the budget stating there were more
areas that could be looked at to make cuts.
* MOTION by Mayor Blake; Seconded by Deputy Mayor Goins to approve
Resolution No. 2026-072 adopting the FY 2027 tentative budget for the City
of Cocoa Fiscal Year, commen cing on October 1, 2026, and ending
September 30, 2027.
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:

AYES: Blake, Goins, Hearn
NAYS: Koss, Weeks
MOTION CARRIED (3-2)
2. Consider on First Reading Ordinance 15 -2026, Adopting the City’s Five -Year
Schedule of Capital Improvements in Accordance with the Community Planning
Act. (2026-797). (City Manager)
City Attorney Garganese read the item into record.
* MOTION by Mayor Blake ; Seconded by Deputy Mayor Goins to approve
Ordinance No. 15-2026, adopting the City’s five-year Schedule of Capital
Improvements in accordance with the Community Planning Act , on First
reading.
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:

AYES: Blake, Goins, Hearn,
NAYS: Koss, Weeks
MOTION CARRIED (3-2)

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* MOTION by Mayor Blake; Seconded by Deputy Mayor Goins to break for a
ten-minute recess.
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:

AYES: Blake, Goins, Koss, Hearn, Weeks
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
* MOTION by Deputy Mayor Goins; Seconded by Mayor Blake to resume the
meeting.
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:

AYES: Blake, Goins, Koss, Hearn, Weeks
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)
IV. Council Business:
1. Staff is requesting direction on which improvements to proceed with at Junny
Rios Martinez Park; provide a funding source, if necessary.

City Manager Whitten introduced the item reminding Council at a previous meeting
staff was requested to get quotes to add items at Junny Rios Park and return to
Council. City Manager Whitten stated those quotes came back at about $447,000.
Since then, Councilmember Weeks reduced her request to the static exercise
equipment, climbing structure, pine mulch , and two more grills for $147,500. He
also added that there would be a $15,000 contingency.
* MOTION by Councilmember Weeks; Seconded by Councilmember Koss to
approve $147,500 plus contingency for items at Junny Rios for an amount
of $162,500, for discussion.
Deputy Mayor Goins asked about the remaining dollars at Junny Rios.
Councilmember Hearn stated that he would not be in favor of the Junny Rios
improvements with Stradley being in the condition it is in. He feels all the funding
should be redirected to Stradley Park due to the conditions.
Councilmember Weeks responded to Councilmember Hearn stating she voted for
upgrades for a park in his district and agreed to take money previously from Junny
Rios. She stated her park needed upgrades.
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:

AYES: Koss, Weeks

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NAYS: Blake, Goins, Hearn

MOTION FAILED (3-2)
Councilmember Hearn wanted to clear up that Anderson Park is in District 1 and
his District has only one park. He has not gotten any calls about Junny Rios
recently but has gotten many calls about Stradley Park.
Councilmember Koss asked Councilmember Hearn if he considered the new
apartments and housing that is being developed, and Councilmember Hearn
replied he had and those have their own playgrounds/park.
Councilmember Weeks said people are coming to Junny Rios because the park at
their apartments/homes doesn’t have what Junny Rios has.
* MOTION by Councilmember Hearn; Seconded by Deputy Mayor Goins for all
remaining funds (less the 2 grills) for Junny Rios be reallocated to Stradley
Park.
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:

AYES: Blake, Goins, Hearn

NAYS: Koss, Weeks

MOTION CARRIED (3-2)

V. Public Input:

VI. Adjournment:

* MOTION by Mayor Blake; Seconded by Councilmember Hearn to adjourn the
meeting.
AYES: Blake, Goins, Hearn, Koss, Weeks
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)
The meeting adjourned at 8:38 p.m.
________________________________
Michael C. Blake, Mayor
ATTEST:
______________________________
Monica Arsenault, City Clerk
(Transcribed by Lori Chabot, Recording Secretary)

Agenda (the City's wording)

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I. Opening Matters

1. Call to Order
2. Invocation
3. Pledge of Allegiance
4. Roll Call

II. Approval of Agenda and Minutes

1. Agenda: Special Meeting of September 9, 2026.

III. Public Hearing

1. Conduct a Public Hearing on the Tentative Millage Rate and the Tentative FY2027 Budget and: Adopt Resolution No. 2026-071 adopting a tentative millage rate of 6.9532 mills for the City of Cocoa, commencing on October 1, 2026, and ending September 30, 2027 Adopt Resolution No. 2026-072 adopting the FY2027 tentative budget and CIP for the City of Cocoa Fiscal Year, commencing on October 1, 2026, and ending September 30, 2027.
2. Consider on First Reading Ordinance 16-2026, Adopting the City's Five Year Schedule of Capital Improvements in Accordance with the Community Planning Act.

IV. Council Business

1. Staff is requesting direction on which improvements to proceed with at Junny Rios Martinez Park; provide a funding source if necessary.

V. Public Input

VI. Adjournment

VII. Notice to the Public

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the general fund for supporting the ROI,

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revenue. So this slide shows you cities ranked in different ‸ scenarios, whether

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However, you can see when you look at the revenue, we're in fourth

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And then as I just stated

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fund is at 23.2%, which is heavily impacted by those interfund transfers. So to remind council, the rollback rate essentially means that we're going to back out new construction and collect the same amount of revenue as we did in the previous year.

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So some substantive issues to discuss is that

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So it will be advertised in this upcoming week in the newspapers as a property tax increase. The increase was needed to fund essential services, mandatory and critical capital equipment, which has all been funded with recurring revenue, salaries and benefits, of which you all know we have five unions plus the general employees to provide salary increases for them and remain competitive. And then to absorb any inflationary increases.

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for example, during the year.

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And it

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So as a public announcement, excuse me, I would like to announce that the city of Cocoa is the taxing authority.

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The millage rate of 6.9532 is a tax increase of 1.29% as a percent of the rollback rate. And the millage rate to be levied is 6.9532 mils, which is 0% over the adopted millage rate of

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There's been some discussion about going to rollback and these two, the top and the bottom on this slide, demonstrate the effect on fund balance. If you look at the top right, this slide is keeping the millage rate the same. If you'll notice,

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stay at, don't dip below our reserve levels until 2036. And there is no debt financing. You see that big green bar in the bottom right at the top. However, if we go to the rollback rate, now in 2035, we're almost at our fund balance reserves. And

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dip below our reserves. And you can see it's kind of a downhill slide. And then if you look at the bottom right of that particular area and you see in red there, that means that we have to go out for debt financing. If we go with the rollback rate and that debt financing is financing a fire station. So I just wanted to show you all that impact,

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visual impact of going with rollback rate. Yeah.

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And additionally, what Stantec presents is not the balanced budget proposal, but it was stated that that Stantec presented, presented when they presented to you guys, this scenario or a scenario that we could go to rollback without having to make any cut to the expenditure side.

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we have to make. So Pete did clarify that. So we thought we'd show this.

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In this fiscal year.

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Yeah. In the fiscal year. 2027 fiscal year. So we thought we'd show this because, again, I present to you guys a balanced budget proposal that was based on a current millage rate. And if you go back, if you go to rollback, you've

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got

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to reduce $173,000. And it

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was cumulative, about $2.5 million over the 10-year period. And what Stantec does for us is looks to see if we're going to be sufficient with our revenues over the 10-year term.

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reserve level in the last year of the forecast, whereas we get there a lot a year sooner if we go to rollback, in addition to having to take out debt financing.

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all the time, that if you go to rollback, you lose that revenue forever. Forever. And that's what this ‸ sort of drives home that point there. So, again, just making those points.

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Okay. Rebecca? So it's a 4% there, anticipating 4% increases. Yes. And it was a 1% increase

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Okay. In 2020.

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it's 1% here.

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Yeah. Total taxable value, yes.

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our ad valorem, and that would be the new construction and things that came online.

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have to have a minute to go look at those numbers. Okay.

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Yeah.

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But no matter how you look at it, we will lose, if we go back to the rollback, we lose $173,000.

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Right. Bottom line. And we

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can't retain that.

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Right. To balance. And again, the taxable value is a guess on our part. Right.

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we don't know the taxable value until the property appraiser gives us the preliminary and then the certified taxable value. So this is just like any other projection to jump out and you guess based on maybe a historical trend analysis, but ‸ again, a number of other factors. And so this ‸ actually guesses at what will be the taxable value increase, which includes new construction and reassessments, et cetera.

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Can

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I add

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something there?

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Ma'am.

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I wanted to add, obviously, Stan Tech did this prior to us getting the multimodal station, which totally changes that ‸ long-term projection as well.

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‸ We're living in the present right now and that's where we're at.

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if we continue

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Bottom line. Proceed for it, Mrs. Bowman.

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So at this point, Mr. Mayor, this is a public hearing where council can

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comments from the public.

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rate or this solely the millage rate? You get what I'm saying?

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Well, millage rate funds a budget and so I think we've met the statutory requirement to actually address it as a substantive, a sub-stamp, so whatever the term is. Yep. Okay. So ‸ I think it's fine ‸ for them to come with their comments.

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speaking from the Little League? I have

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And Rashad, for sure. Okay. Coach, President Williams, please submit a card after you speak, sir. Come forward. Who else?

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Stop pointing

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at this one.

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Yeah.

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Hello?

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Okay.

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And Ms. Is it Noble?

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Yes.

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Am I saying that right? Yes,

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sir. Okay.

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Okay. Thank you. We'll proceed in that order.

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Go ahead. I just want to speak on behalf of the Little League.

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city council meetings, and it's almost like we're

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beating

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a dead horse.

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know? It's almost like they do a little bit just to shut us up. We'll fix a little something to keep them quiet. And at this point, it ain't enough. We need... We had a football game last week with over 1,000 people, almost 1,500 people out there. The sewer backed up. Water in the bathrooms. All you smell is sewer.

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People had to go to the gas station, use the bathroom, and they

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up the other ones at the softball field. But, I mean, you got elderly people that can't walk that far to use the restroom. And, you know, like I said, this is really getting ridiculous. Like, and I understand some of y'all don't got a dog in the fight. So, I mean, that's what happens when you don't got a dog in the fight. So, you turn the other eye or whatever. You do what you can at the time, and we'll get the rest later. But we're at a point now we need it done right now. They spent...

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but it looked like it did before they fixed it. I mean,

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Friday, we went to line the field.

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We couldn't even line the field. I mean, something got to be done. I know it don't happen overnight, but, I mean, they talking about putting money at

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and we got 200 kids at our park every day. Every time

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at that park. You know, we got kids at this field from Monday to Saturday. Sewage backing up. I mean, it's ridiculous. It's

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ridiculous.

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I went out there the other night, the sprinkling system on at 10 o'clock at night, and it hadn't been raining. So, I mean, who is responsible for all this? And you got these kids out there playing on a muddy field, getting hurt, and it's just ridiculous.

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They put one new stall in there with the old stall, and it's almost like you

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waste the

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money.

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Patchworking is not going to get it done. Mr. Mayor,

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how

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much did they spend in that football field when they redid it?

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Which

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grass and all this work they put into it. How much did they put into that field?

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This is what I'm going to do. Mr. City Manager, would you answer the enhancements that

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But also, ‸ before we even define the

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starts from, ‸ if

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that even

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jurisdiction.

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1970, or even prior to then, really in the 60s, when we acquired ‸ that property from the county, from the college, was operated by the county, it was wetlands. And we deal with that even ‸ at Cocoa High School. Right. We had artesian wells across the street. So, I'm just saying, when you start off with a situation that is not advantageous for the people itself, then we're trying to address the issues and having the proper funding, Mr. Williams. And I know it's a tough challenge, and I get it.

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I play there.

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You ask me a question. I'm answering. I understand it. But my thing is, I can only work with what we generate, the revenue. And I know a lot of people cry, the loudest will, I mean, squeaks the loudest gets the oil first. That person or group of organization. But the time when the city manager and myself and other council members

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we've always come and listened to you all. Even during the time when there was a not so pleasant environment that took place, we stood tall and firm. We made the proper adjustments. Most

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definitely.

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vote for this super majority because of the trying to save taxpayer dollars,

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But Mr. City Manager, talk

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If we go back and forth with every speaker, then we're going to spend a whole lot of time there. But there have been a number of improvements over the last couple of years there. And so the

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a million dollars. Going down the drain. So, so, and, and, and, and

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whether he believes that it's down the drain or not there, it's, it's better than it was.

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we'll come in. We'll give you. And so

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The park has been there for 50 plus years, 60 plus years there. And I guarantee you that the most amount of money that's ever been put in the park is what you guys have done over the last two or three years. And I would agree with that. And so, and so if you will, if all due respect, Mr. Mayor, can we just let the speakers get through their comments and then I'll make the presentation at the appropriate time. I'll get quickly to, um, the, the, uh, the resolution of the current issues, which are not really long-term fixes because it'll take you millions and millions of dollars to actually fix the park. So, so, um, but again, I, I, I can tell you with a straight face into the general public and to anybody who wants to listen that this council and probably the council before

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the last couple of decades. I don't have an argument with that. You absolutely right.

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to be out of here.

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How does the city councilman, city councilman, woman, get selected and don't even know the park in their district? How does that happen? How does that

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Please make sure Mr.

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Williams,

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President Williams, you submit a card.

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Yes, sir. Thank you.

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Good evening.

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Program.

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years ago when I let this city council know that. But this program along with baseball, when you add all of baseball on a Saturday, you're talking about almost over a thousand people at that one part. The parking is horrendous. The bathrooms, we know, aren't functional.

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much as they need to. We need one softball field that needs to be turned into a football field just for us to house six to seven teams. We put six or seven teams on that one football field and guess what's going to happen to all that grass you put out there? It's going to get torn up and then we're going to be back here again like we are now. Hey, hey, hey. The field looks awful. Kids, kids are good. We don't know whether it's septic water or

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playing for 14 years.

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for the kids. I'm done. Thank you.

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May. Oh,

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Hi there.

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I'm one of the cheer coaches at Cocoa High School. And as you can tell by who's here today, obviously people are very upset about Stradley Park. So first I want to say I have done my due diligence as far as making all the phone calls. I call the septic health department almost every day asking when their inspector is going to get out to the field. Last ‸ week, whenever I spoke to the woman directly, she said that they were waiting on the soil samples to come out so that they can put two septic tanks in. So obviously with the county, there is clearly permitting issues to allow the septic company to move forward. So that, I mean, obviously isn't on you guys.

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So obviously if there's, you know, a lot of orders coming in, then he's tied up other places and can't get to

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receive. So additionally with that, I know that all four septic tanks have been approved, which is amazing. However, the kids are still playing in really bad conditions. And we know that. Obviously the drainage needs to be taken care of. There needs to be a plan in place. I did speak to County Commissioner Thad Altman today, and he said that the county is behind making improvements and would like to see improvements made. I know, you

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sent him all the pictures as well. And he is not impressed with the way that it looks.

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however that looks like, to get Stradley where it needs to be. I am also willing as a citizen, whatever it takes to do volunteer, to raise money, to do fundraising, whatever, whatever needs to happen to make that, to make those improvements happen.

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will do whatever I need to do. So if that's a possibility, please just let me know. That's all I got.

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that statement last night as well. And so if you want to do anything, try, try to tie him down to a dollar amount.

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Okay.

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Right. Hopes and wishes don't get anything.

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Absolutely.

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And so I think you can, if that's a possibility, that'd be great for us to have a partnership with the county to come to the table.

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think

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be good. So.

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Yes. His assistant is actually calling me tomorrow. She said the

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actually walked out with the baseball coach last night and had a conversation directly with him.

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and I can further discuss with her, you know, what the outcome of that conversation was. So again, I'm happy to, to facilitate anything that needs to, to, for the improvements there.

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Next.

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Hello. Good evening.

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for the Coco Tigers football.

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team moms and all the parents involved. We all want better and deserve better for our kids. Even if anybody says that you don't have, um, something in this, our children are our future. Everybody has something in this. There's no way you can say that. One of my biggest concerns is

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you just expect it.

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should not accept that.

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We are the best. We do the best for our future. Um, a lot of people already talked about all the issues that are going on. Everyone's well aware. I just

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to also put out there that, um, one of the most concerning thing is the reputation that this is, um, creating. As a parent, I sit on the sidelines waiting for our game to start and I hear the visiting teams,

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parents, spectators, ‸ kids walking through sewage to get to a bathroom that's now closed to go to the other side of the field.

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have to play at this field. This is the worst field in our league to go to. And I honestly am starting to feel like, man, I hope it's an away game because I'd hate to have to go play at our field this week. Um, so I just ‸ want everybody to know you're all in this. We all better be in this. And it is the future of all of us, our kids.

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The fact that even the people that live in Coco and practice on that field say, well, this is what we get. This is what, this is the best we get because they really don't care. It just makes my heart break to think that these kids are down here while we're worried about other things that probably aren't as important.

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I was going to say were already said today. So thank you for your time, guys. And I hope you make it a priority. Yes,

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ma'am.

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next, Jared. And then Crystal. Good

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evening, Mr. Mayor, members of the

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council.

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I will be brief. A

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of the points that I was going to make have been made.

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And I know that ultimately, you know, this comes down to dollars and cents. You

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know,

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you have a lot of things to do.

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We get it.

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Uh, you know, I'm no civil engineer. I don't have the solutions. I don't know the cost. We know the area is a swamp. As mayor pointed out, it's low lying.

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It's going to get wet. Um, it's some kind of pumping station.

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But that's how New Orleans tries to stay from out from underwater.

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Uh, you know, maybe we have to get that water diverted into a, you know, a single area and then pump it up and out. Um,

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for these kids. And, you know, Coco is the premier town in this county for football. You know, Coco High School has been a force for a long time. Uh, you know, and this, this youth league is, you know, a lot of these kids will feed into that program. And, uh, you know, I know my son who's, who's playing and my younger son over there ‸ will be playing next year. They're very proud to be Coco Tigers.

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It is, it is fair to say that it is the poorest looking, and I don't necessarily mean monetarily, just the worst looking facility in the Atlantic Youth Conference, which spans Brevard and Indian River counties.

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are. But, you know, to other people's points, slopping through what people perceive as sewage, uh, whether it is or not, is not a good look.

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had to put my kids through this.

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These are not good conditions for people to come support their children and grandchildren. And,

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football, you know, it would be nice to see, you know, just, you know, whatever we can do. Nobody's asking for a miracle. You know, if money was not an issue, we'd probably just knock it all down and do it all over. But that's not reasonable. But there has to be some kind of solution somewhere that is affordable, you know. But I just think, you know, I don't know if saying there's no pride is a fair statement, but ‸ we need the pride to reflect in the facility to when people come to our facility, they can see that there, you know. And these kids,

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know, somebody else mentioned it, multiple Super Bowl teams, you know, national championships. These kids go out there. They work hard. These coaches work hard. These ‸ league board people. Everybody works hard over there to put a quality football product out on the field. And they represent our town very well, all up and down these two counties.

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extent that it's possible, they deserve the very best that the city can give them in return in terms of their facility and what they have to utilize and how they're represented amongst the other towns that we play against. That's it. I thank you for your time.

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Thank you. Mr.

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let me say it this way to you, sir. You alluded ‸ to it, this field, even the city manager and council members know it too as well. This field was constructed back 60s, 70s. So we're actually living on the same infrastructure dating back then.

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would love to be able to

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Yes, sir. You play better, act better when you dress better and do better. We want that for all of our kids, just for our fellow human being. But you know the dilemma. Sometimes you just have to work around it.

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deal. So we have to collectively piecemeal it. And we're trying to rank it based on the priorities, what's most

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endearest

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to the people.

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thing. The second thing is the infrastructure. To bring it up to code, to bring it up to 2026, 2027, and beyond. Environmentally friendly and safe. And that's the question that I propose to you, the public, to the parent. And I'm a parent, and I'm a grandparent, and I get it. I understand it.

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And mine, too. They waited until I graduated. Then he became principal because he had to discipline me. But the point that I'm saying to you, sir, it's not that you all are falling on deaf ears. I'm just looking at dollars and cents and what's best based on our financial situation. And I'm asking maybe that you all make these phone calls to all the council members to see what they can do.

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Well, I think, and real quick, if you look over there, half this

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And they're not the only ones that ‸ are concerned. But, yeah, I mean, is there something we as a league can do as parents, as teachers, coaches, whatever? Yeah.

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us, then we have an obligation to do that.

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just need to have the communication of what's needed and ‸ what the shortfalls may be and what we need to do to work together. Yes, sir. You know, there's no animosity in this room, really. There's frustration. There's no animosity.

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they can do to really maybe, you know, push the envelope a little bit. You know, don't just, not saying you have, but don't do the minimum. Right. Do the maximum you can do, you know. Basically, that's what people understand. It's easy to point the finger and blame somebody else. That doesn't solve anything. Thank you.

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thank you for your time.

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appreciate

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it all joy, sir. All right. Thank you. Yes, sir. I gave you my card already.

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So, yes, sir. Yes.

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Yes.

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Good evening. My name is Crystal Wald. I was here back in April before you all, so I'm not going to go into a lengthy

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baseball at

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One thing I want to make very

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have our own concession and we have our own fields. But I will say that we stand united in wanting what's

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dial. She's probably heard more from me than she ever has wanted to. My husband has Rashad Williams on speed dial.

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So we are in this together for our children. When I came back in April, I presented to the council photographs of safety concerns ‸ with regard to certain structures

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You all directed me to go speak with the county officials, and so we did that back in July. I think it was July 15th they had their meeting. We presented to them, and my takeaway from that meeting was basically they're capped at 5,000. There's nothing else they can do. I even stayed after the meeting, and I spoke with

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He's something with the county. And I basically pleaded with him to please have his maintenance crew do some things that will maybe be low cost, such as covering up those exposed wires so I don't have to worry about a child being electrocuted, or certain things that maybe would be low cost to where

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And since that time, our baseball fields have really deteriorated. We were told by the county that it was due to a fungus to where the grass basically all died out. There's huge patches. It's really rough and patchy on at least three of the fields, if not four of our fields. And so at this point, there are just so many safety concerns that we have for the children on the baseball side and the football side. I feel like we have to worry about a three-year-old playing tee ball, breaking an ankle, playing out on these fields because it's not even.

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a dugout and tetanus issues.

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playing in fields where there's bacteria and it's unhealthy. And so we're asking the city to please help us get some funds, make these facilities safe for our children. Thank you. Thank you.

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Is that it for the football portion of it? Okay.

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‸ Can I ask, ‸ what kind of analysis have we done so far?

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we know?

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mean, ‸ we actually went back over her presentation there. And if, you know, look, I'm going to tell you, if you're talking to Terry, you're talking to the wrong person. So, and I can tell you that because I spent 23 years with the county. And so, and so Terry's not the guy to talk to. I've been, I've talked to the parks director. I've talked with the, with the health director. And she's the one who expedited the permits for us. And so we would not even be addressing the septic in terms of getting the permits unless she took the phone call or took the email and expedited the...

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sir.

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out,

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sir. And so, but, and so, no, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm getting to it, sir. And so, so I'm not arguing with you. The, when, when your wife came, she made a very good presentation. Really, she didn't highlight the, the field conditions there. It's wet. It's going to be wet. There was a fungus there.

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lot of rain has happened. And funguses have happened.

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In terms of funding, the county has an agreement with the city and structure it on how, on their responsibilities for maintenance and repairs and our responsibility for financing it. I can go ‸ all that,

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can go over the history of all that.

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This is a swampy, low-lying, flat area, and it's going to hold water. So, I want to quickly get to, and I'll do it at the appropriate time,

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want to quickly get to an interim solution.

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And

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The ultimate, ultimate solution is to reconstruct it and do artificial turf. That's millions and millions and maybe tens of millions of dollars.

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The city recognizes the conditions. The county is responsible for the day-to-day maintenance. I'll go over their responsibilities. I'll go over our responsibilities. And at the end, I'll tell you what we can do in the interim. The civil engineers will tell you that that is tantamount to replacing the football field and coming back up a year or two, six months, three years, and saying, well, it's still soggy and wet because you haven't fixed the structural issue with regards to the park. So, I can do that whenever you want me to do that. We can go to the millage and come back to that. Just do it now.

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How do

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feel?

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You want to go now,

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let's go now. Yeah, so let me, ‸ Mitch, if you'll go to the how do we get here presentation. And again, when we talk about funding, the county has an agreement that caps their financial contribution at the $5,000. And so, I don't envision that the county commission is going to do anything outside of that agreement.

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years, we've put in, we, the

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further? Because some people don't understand about the agreement that we technically

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ownership of said parks.

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Yeah, we actually, we

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actually, we actually own the parks there.

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part of a taxing district, a part of a regional park system that was created back in the 60s. And so, and

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so that

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was created via ‸ property tax. Uh, and that property tax is applied to, uh, uh, properties within the city of Cocoa, within Rockledge, and within the unincorporated area of the county.

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Cocoa, the citizens of Rockledge, and unincorporated within the geographic region, actually taxed themselves for additional dollars for the maintenance and upkeep of, upkeep of, uh, parks. Uh, the, there's an interlocal partnership. That agreement was in, uh, in the mid, uh, 80s. And so that actually provides that the county is the day-to-day operator and the caretaker of the park. And then the cities continue to own the park. That agreement was recently, um, amended or updated, 2024, um, to what we have today. ‸ And that, that, that simply says very, very, very simple. It says, hey, we'll take care of anything that's under $5,000, and then anything over $5,000, it's the city's responsibility. Um,

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And

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hey, and if you don't take,

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basically the nuts and bolts of that agreement, you can have the parks back, not in terms of ownership, because we own it, in terms of the day-to-day maintenance and operating and taking care of the parks. And so, so we'll, we'll give you that back. The

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give back to the, to us. So as poor as the maintenance and the day-to-day operations are, it still is more money coming back to the city than what is actually collected from the taxpayers of the city. What's important, and we highlighted it with the orange there, is that, uh, for the referendums and the additional tax, there was a $2,000 referendum where a number of the areas actually got an additional bump in the tax revenue to actually, because of the, because of the, the, um, the, um, cost of things, they got an additional increase in the tax rate to actually bring in more revenues.

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And so you'll see that Titusville has more revenue in their taxing district than the central and

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Island has more than, than, uh, than the

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South recreation district has tens of millions of dollars that they delay via the tax there. ‸ And so this is set up. The current, the current is set up, um, and it covers two types of maintenance levels there.

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And so

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number one is the highest level of service that, that they, they provide. And I can give you copies of this presentation. And so covered under, under the highest sort of level

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level of, uh,

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service there.

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who's responsible for what? So the agreement says that the County operates and maintains the park, uh, for public recreational use.

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And so again, if, if they're not telling us about it, if you're not telling us about it, then most of the time we're not made aware of that until it is on social media or until you make an appearance here. Um, they provide the routine day to day maintenance and the, and there's a, there's a, there's a,

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exhibit that has a level of service or standards that they're supposed to meet. Um, and, and again, they,

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They fund the maintenance and staffing for the, uh, for the district. They're responsible for the tax rate. So the, the tax rate that's associated with the district is approved by the Brevard County Board of County Commissioners. They schedule, they reserve, uh, the facilities, they collect the fees, they retain whatever fees, um, they, uh, contract and pay the maintenance for 5,000 or less. They pay, they pay the telephone cable and all of those

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of things there. And so they really are the caretakers of the part. And then if there's an item, i.e. a field that's

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financial responsibility

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Go ahead. And so on the, on the city side, uh, we own it. We're the owners. Um, we have a management company. Uh, again, which is the county. Uh,

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Uh, and then if they want to alter or improve, then they have to come to the city. Uh, again, we pay the full cost, the full cost of maintenance and replacement for items exceeding, uh, $5,000. Again, roofing, roof drains, sewer, wastewater,

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HVAC, all of those things. And so again, we're, we're the, we're the owner and we pay for things that are needed, uh, at the park as we're made aware of those. And as we obviously have the financial ability to do so. So over the last two fiscal ‸ years, uh, uh, as, uh, Mr. Williams said, the football field was reconstructed. New turf,

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probably laser graded. But again, uh, as the gentleman said,

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Um, new goalposts, new fencing, the parking lot was paved renovations to the, uh, to the softball field renovations to both ‸ football and baseball concession buildings. Um, and then sidewalk repairs we replaced and I'll get into the details of the stormwater pipe replacement, um,

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irrigation and stormwater. And we're in the current, we're currently in the process of replacing the septic system. Septic, uh, system was the most, uh, to go from septic to sewer is a multimillion dollar proposition also. And so, and so that's why, uh, we're going to, uh, to the septic there again, that's currently, uh,

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And so, um, just this calendar year, our public works department has been out there, um, making some improvements to the park. And again, those improvements were made. Those ‸ improvements are successful, but again, it is flat, low and swampy.

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going to repeat itself. Because again, um, at the end of the day, uh, the ultimate fix is to actually raise the park and, um, redo the elevations, redo the stormwater systems and bring them up to 21st century.

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So, so, um, so we were out there in February,

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we made the improvements in March and then we were out there again today. And so, and I know, uh, most of you all can't see this, but color coded in terms of the improvements that were made. If you look at the yellow line,

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removed, uh, ‸ sidewalk, a four inch sidewalk and replaced it with a four foot sidewalk and replaced it with five foot sidewalk. And

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Uh,

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Um, we've also cleared and, uh, reshaped the ditches. Again, we're in the rainy season and it's happened. And so all of these, uh, improvements

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repeat myself again, and the gentleman did a fine job of it. Uh,

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is low and flat and swampy. Uh, we've repaved the area near the entrance gate. And I think you guys, uh, have acknowledged that, uh, we actually,

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Um, so we

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uh, the vegetation. We installed a new pump shed, uh, to aerate the, the pond. Um, and so, uh, we've installed ‸ new irrigation pump for the, for the stormwater harvesting to drain the pond and increase the storage capacity.

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um, its original functionality. That is not how the pond looks today. Um, this, this is how the pond is supposed to look, but, but that is not how the pond looks today. Um, and so just out there today, um, again, and I've said all of this, we've, we've reestablished the field perimeter, uh, swell areas. And so you guys know this behind the fields, we sort of have the swell and the ditch areas there. And so we would reestablish those and sort of reestablish the ditch, uh, along the South road. Um, these are the drains, uh, the right picture is the French drain. And so, and so we have those out there, as I've said previously, those are functioning. Again, it's just overwhelmed by the sheer amount of water out there. Um, again, the retention pond we've addressed,

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oak trees we planted. Um, and then,

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laying sod. Um, and I think somebody mentioned that maybe it's, I saw the one field. I don't know if it extended beyond the one field, but one or two fields is it's, it's, uh, in that condition that you'll see on the right there.

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terms of the horizontal infrastructure at the, uh, at the park. And so if you, if you remove the sod and laser grade and replace the sod for all nine fields, um, again,

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that's a little short of a half a million dollars.

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it and you've not addressed the elevation. You've not addressed the storm, the stormwater, uh, system. And so, um, that that's a fix. That is a bandaid for however long. Again, we heard, I think we just did the football field two fiscal years ago.

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probably a little better than where we were. So, so, uh, we're right back to where we started on that. Um, and these are the points that, uh,

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very points, you know,

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by wetlands to the south and west limiting natural drainage release relief. Uh, the park developed before current current stormwater management standards and, uh, and it has inherent drainage limitations. The whole surrounding area has those same limitations. And so when you have these repeated storm events, you have what elevated water levels in the receiving systems, and that's going to reduce the ability of the park to drain. Um, we're in the wet season. We all know ‸ that. Uh, and so again, the next to the last bullet point, the proposed improvements would provide localized benefits, but will not eliminate the underlying drainage constraints. And so if you make those improvements,

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and piping and, and, and, uh, and vegetation around the ponds there.

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And so what we have now is do we make these interim solutions that are going to have to be managed, and that's a half a million dollars, or do we have the larger discussion about how do we get to a comprehensive structural fix for the park?

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Did that come up in April? We're looking at solutions because

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septic. ‸ Provost has

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football, but no baseball solution, no softball solution.

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Well, the septic is an issue, too, because obviously septic isn't going to work in low-lying flooding areas.

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So even the structural changes would require some sort of grant or require something more than what we have. Well,

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and we've asked for funding, Samantha, correct me if I'm wrong, we've asked for septic to sewer funding in the request to the state for appropriations. Look, the long-term fix is you don't have enough in the bank to actually reconstruct the parts. That's probably, and I'll put Jack and I'll put Abby on the spot,

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ballpark where we would be, Abby and Jack. Who wants to go first? There you go. That's what I was thinking.

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Yeah, I mean, I think if you're going to start messing, because we know when I've been out there, it's kind of a ball, you know, in the parking lot, at

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it was. It was kind of lower in the middle, higher on the edges. So if you simply just looked at trying to bring that up to a grade, in combination with installing some kind of underdrain or, you know, what we call like a French drain system under the field, and even just a simple stormwater collection, you know, kind of ADS pipe, plastic pipe kind of a thing to collect it and just kind of get it. But I think Stockton already made the point, I think Abby's made this point previously, the tailwater, everything around there is already high.

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put all that stuff in, if the swamp that's next to you has a high seasonal high water table, which they do now at this time of the year, it doesn't matter how much infrastructure you put in the water, it's still going to back up inside those pipes.

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water is going to be too high. And so it's not going to go anywhere. So then you have to start looking at everything downstream of the park to a point where the hydraulic grade line is enough so that it will continually drain, you know, to move water downhill, even during a high water. So ‸ the high water table at whatever point is low enough that you will always drain. That's a big undertaking.

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That would be really big there.

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What do you have?

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That's what I'm saying. Do you have anything you want to share with us?

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Yeah, exactly. And I want to add one of the bullet points there is that there's a ditch along the south boundary of the park that also receives like a good amount of drainage from Clear Lake. Actually, it's a segment from Dixon to Michigan.

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ditch and kind of makes its way to the south.

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that park has to drain.

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Okay. I would like to hear from Councilwoman calls.

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Let me ask one

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more thing. ‸ So did the county contact us first?

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What is the county's understanding of what's going on? ‸ I

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mean, they understand what's going on.

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They're

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mean, again, their understanding is they're going as far as the contract. So they're going ‸ up to the contract. ‸ And if you want to, if you can fix it, fix it. And they've been, ‸ look, when ‸ we've come to the table and said, hey, we got to get this done, ‸ they've been good partners. You know, they're going to talk to you about their financial constraints.

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You know, now, you know, again, the fix for this is ‸ to actually spend more money than you have. Well, ‸ how do you spend more money than you actually have in cash? Well, you finance stuff.

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to be talking about financing ‸ stuff with Amendment 3 barreling down on us and military discussions, you know.

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changes in the elevations and all the things that Jack and Abby have said, you know.

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put pressure on the county to do a better job in maintaining them, you know. And so the wet season comes and, you know, and you're back where you started from. But again, you know, maybe you spend the half a million and it buys you five years of fairly decent conditions.

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Yeah.

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Thank you. Ma'am?

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It depends on the weather.

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Okay. Yeah. It's not nice to fool with Mother Nature. Councilman Herm.

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Yes, thank you. So, first off, I was never a fan of the new agreement. ‸ As it was stated, we were kind of forced into it. You know, especially

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If I want to avoid paying for something, I would just let it get to past conditions to where it's over that $5,000 cap. So, I'm not a fan of ‸ that. Definitely know we got to do something with this park. And I'm thinking timing, you know, the rainy season. We're not even at the peak of the rainy season. This year,

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Very, very heavy rains due to the El Nino winds and the weather conditions out there. So, trying to schedule that is crazy. But I'm just looking at other alternatives. I know we own the land south of the park, correct? Yeah. So,

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But some of my thought processes was expanding the capacity of the lake or the pond back there. Looking at situations like that, we talked about the property to the west, acquiring that.

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know, utilizing that for... Yeah, and can

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we ‸ park there? Because ‸ I said the exact same thing. Well,

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have two parcels that are south of the ‸ park there.

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‸ But

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it's, you know, so south here we have two parcels. Yeah.

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actually do stormwater ponds in those two parcels.

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If you look at the aerials of that retention area, there's a path that that overflow takes. And

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there. ‸ We've reached out to a vendor today to see how much it would cost to kind of reestablish that ‸ path, if you would, that flow path.

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So, ‸ the part would still be low and flat?

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Correct. And

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so, how would you get the water from all of the

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to those two south parcels?

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And so, that's... That is exactly what we've done here. So, we've put perforated pipes, trying to move that water that typically just sits there and stands there, and kind of convey it to the swales so it moves off to the perimeter swales.

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any other season other than your peak what season? Season. Season.

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is where we're

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now. And so this is where you get your, you know, your high groundwater table and you have your saturated soil situations right now. And we've

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we can with these improvements. And they worked fine in February, March, April, May, June, July, August.

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Again, I'm just trying to think outside the box for some solutions. We also know we have the neighborhood right here to the right, which is oddly, it's in the county. It's unincorporated.

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And if you look down those streets, those streets run directly downhill to the park. So all that water is washing from the east, west to the park, onto the fields. So I was also thinking about having a conversation with the county about possibly doing a stormwater project, something to collect that water to keep it from, obviously that costs a lot of money, but these conversations probably should be had. Yeah, it's a tough situation, but something has to be done. Looking at time and again, we have sports going on year-round there, so any construction will interrupt those sports. So it's a tough situation.

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Can you go back to that one ‸ diagram, Mr. City Manager, where we're talking about the half a meal, about the T-ball fields, the various fields and so forth, please?

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have to tell me when I get there.

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Okay. Yes, ma'am. I'll be a southern gentleman and let you go, and then I'll talk about that. Yes, ma'am.

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Go ahead, ma'am. Yeah. I wanted to go back to the pond. I know that Abby just explained that, but I did not hear why that pond could not be made larger. Sounds like the infrastructure is there for the drainage into that pond, but during this time of the year, it just gets over full. So why can't we make that pond bigger so it would hold more water?

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So we are looking into kind of reestablishing an outfall from ‸ that retention area ‸ to the south.

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I speak. Abby,

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plain language, the water has to be able to get to the pond. Right.

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Yes.

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and south. Yeah. And so.

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Yep. And the elevation on the top of the pond has to be lower than the field. Yes. And lower than and higher than whatever is down through it, so the water keeps going.

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Right. Yeah.

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But I thought she said that it was, you had already done that. That's why it was staying dry

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was

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that up until this heavy part of the rainy season, that that was already in place. No. Did I mishear that?

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Yes. I was referring to the swales and the ditches and the perforated pipe that we had installed. I

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say it.

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Okay. Thank you.

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Yes. Go ahead. ‸ Ask your question then I want to talk about. So my last question before I forget. So we obviously heard that the county said they were on board, vocally,

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But I was thinking about the tourist tax that they

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that's how they keep those parks up.

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Yeah.

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Correct.

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because they were able to bring in tournaments, tourists for the sporting events there. And that's how they did the conversion in part

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So, so, so

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that's very similar to the tax

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It just brings in a whole lot more money.

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because

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And so you get the

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Now, now you, you talk about planning it out, you know, uh, you know, if you're going to ask for ‸ tourist development tax, then you got to prove to them that you have an ability to draw tourists, you know. And so, and so this, this strategy would have to be artificial turf, parking, uh, stands, uh, the vertical construction would have to accommodate, you know, again, regional, national and international tournaments, you know.

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So, so it's a, it's a,

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it's a, it's a great thought, you know, and it's, and it's actually, you know, it's something to look at and say, okay, can we turn Stradley into, um, a venue, uh, that would draw, I forget what it's called. I don't know, it's not called lead play, but travel, travel ball. Travel ball.

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know, and so, um, you know, that would be the ask. But again, you, you,

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make that converge. Right.

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Yeah. And just to sum up my, my questions, um, I see these short term solutions. You know, my idea would be able to come up with a plan that wraps everything around, um, even

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park, uh, the improvement.

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in place. So, you know, obviously it need to be expedited, need to be quick

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and

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planning isn't fast. So, um, that's, that's my thoughts. Well, well, Mr.

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Mr. Williams

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left.

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and so,

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but if you go, if you, if you go back three years, and, and,

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and,

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maybe Alicia can do this, and you say, well, what, what was the condition of the football field? We made the improvements and

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Is it, you know,

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because

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I thought the field was fairly playable. It was just how the

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And maybe,

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and so has there been an, an, an appreciable incremental improvement in the condition of the field? I think so. But again, I don't play on it. And, and has it, and is it enough to actually, uh, handle the load? You know, when, when you, when you have to practice on it and play on it, and then you're playing a Saturday full schedule of games, you know, I mean, that, that's an improvement that probably required a, a restructure of the field. So not just simply laser grading and

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You know, elevation changes.

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Yeah. And, and,

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I think I heard somebody mention turf, so.

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two council meetings ago about utilizing Provost Park for the necessary adjustments.

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mil.

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Manager?

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Yeah.

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It's, it's gonna be, you know, I mean, if we were dry now, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation. You know, the, the water somehow caused the fungus there, but if we didn't have all of the rain, you

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I mean, why don't we, I want to be fair to the, to the league, little league people. It was never perfect, but it would be, uh, manageable. Um, and so, and so if you, if you make these changes, yes, you'll have a regrading, you'll have new sod,

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But, but, but that's my question, Mr. City Manager, is that if we take a year off, what I mean by year off, change venues, come to the Provost Park.

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We, we, we make the necessary adjustments there too as well, but,

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and

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softball field.

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at Provost Park anymore.

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just. Right.

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That has changed immensely. But the point that I'm saying to you is I'm willing to change ‸ venue for football ‸ and during the off season for

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t-ball

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softball, whatever the case may be, we make that necessary adjustments.

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two pieces of property. Because now I'm asking the question, what can, how much can we stand

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or what do we have allocated? Yeah. Yeah. How ‸ do you, yeah. And it would be getting in the water to the south, two pieces there. And if I, if I were going to guess at how much time does it buy, my answer and staff

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they know my answer. It's always three years.

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That's something that they'll have one year to work on. And I'm just, but I, I mean, I'm just trying to give them a media solution because I think, um, um, it's something that we can move forward on, uh, Mr. City Manager and Council.

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the South two parcels because you can't just go and dig. It's, it requires some permitting.

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so talk

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Yeah. So, so, I mean, I think the best use would be to just re get a consultant on board and kind of design a new park. Um,

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and

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do it by phases and then to incorporate stormwater, uh, retention areas in these parcels.

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All right. Um, so I,

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while I was out there and, um, where you see the dot now. The dot?

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okay. Really? Okay.

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see. So what's happening right now is the water runs, it's supposed to run here and run out

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What on this side

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it's

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supposed to run off the edge of the field and it runs to this

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pipe,

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across to here.

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of this baseball field, which in my opinion, I'm not an engineer, but I believe that's causing a lot of the issues ‸ at this field. So

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opinion, I think this could also be an opportunity for a retention inside the park, because right now it is taking a long time to get that water to drain all the way around to this pond or to this pond in this area.

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house thing. Um, because I think our guys would do, do a good job of cleaning the ditches like they did. But in this particular area, it is not this, this area ‸ just straight mud right now.

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And so do you,

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Abby, can you respond to that?

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Yes. So that

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but it does, uh, based on his photos look like there's some, um, changes in grading over, over the years. And so I brought it to our, uh, staff's attention and it's on their radar and they're going to go out and kind of reestablish that, that dry.

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So, so off the top of your head, can I, can I, it's a dry retention.

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I make it deeper?

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Yeah. Yes, you can, we can, we can play with the slope.

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Okay.

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be right now they can't use it for parking.

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now, it's really not supposed to be for that purpose. But that could be an opportunity when this fills up, when the dry retention fills after we dig it deeper. Once it filled and then now it hits the pipe and now it runs out. But at least allow this collection to happen so it comes off the football field. That's...

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I have a lot of

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know I know that's another... ‸ We'll beat that up internally. Gotcha. Gotcha.

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also we also talked about this parcel on this side. uh We know this parcel is for sale currently.

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um and i think Does the owner

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know that we're interested in that piece of property?

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well hopefully the owner isn't in the audience or looking. But, you know, yeah, we're in discussions. ‸ Okay. So

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that that's another possibility here. um I don't know if that's something that come before us soon. But, but But, ‸ Abby, Abby, and that we talked about that because,

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again, and I'm, i'm

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and that

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because I'm not an engineer. So, like hey, let's just dig it deeper and you know and, you

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know

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we're good. You know, and so, and so, Abby, even, even acquiring that piece of property still gives us uh uh ‸ limited results. ‸ And so talk a little bit about that, Abby.

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Yeah. So, um uh again, given, given the bowl situation we're looking at um and the low elevation, if we were able to um construct a retention area on that western parcel, it would

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‸ Go ahead, sir. Let me, let me...

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Yes. What's the worst field?

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The, so the senior field that Alex was pointing at, look to the left, go go left, Alex, right there, that one, and then the one right back to you. It's like ‸ one, no, no, come back. That's south. Yes, sir. Those two are the two worst. yeah And

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and you're like, okay, and then the other one, like they're in competition. who could Those are, those are the ones that the county's

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putting

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parking by there has been horrible, even when we played little football. We

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but

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yeah,

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is, um

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to heavy rainfall,

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do on the city side. I agree ‸ We're going to be in trouble like we are right now. Yes, um this,

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This pipe on this side, the end is currently full of dirt and they cannot, um the water will not drain. Same thing with the swell on the visitor side of the football field.

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slows the water down. So if the county does not maintain this swell, I mean, this pipe on this end, all the water going back up into the field. And that's what's happening right now. ‸ So, um

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Councilwoman Costs because we're going to come back. I think we have a general concession of what needs to take place, a

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direction, because I want to get my millage taken care of. Please ma'am, please, sir. ‸ you completed. Okay. Yeah. councilman

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um I think one of the conversations I would like to see this conversation take place, having read all the articles when this property was, was given to us after the Eastern Florida State, all of that was confiscated. And that's where the fields were. And that's where the large recreation was. And that was all high ground. That was taken for the college. And then we were given this other piece that's obviously has a lot of problems. So Eastern Florida State College, uh have we or can we have a conversation that at least opens up the possibility to um they have right now they have a lot of land that they're not using. I know they're planning on moving buildings around. um And that opens up the idea of actually granting a part of that to to be a top-notch uh ball field even uh an attraction given the development that's going to be going up in that entire area. um With ‸ the train station and and our plans for mixed development. I

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mean I i can I can ask I can tell you they don't have land in the middle of campus to give to you but

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I guess I would I would say give staff two weeks or so to come back and work on what we presented today and see if we can tweak that along with the comments and

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fields are the worst. uh Let us let us ‸ work on something and come back uh man and also uh come back with uh solutions that address the vertical infrastructure because we've not talked about the vertical infrastructure i.e the dugouts the uh the other buildings and uh you know again the the uh

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can bring that back to us.

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it Sounds like he's going to anyway. i

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If I got a motion I know it's gonna come back. um So motion to give staff direction to bring us back solutions for

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a second

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on the floor.

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‸ you have that Mrs. um Chabot? Well yeah if you just tell me to to address infrastructure issues in horizontal and vertical. back okay ‸ All in favor of saying aye. Aye.

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aye

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Horizontal and vertical infrastructure issues. ‸ I

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had a question. Okay. Then we're going to go to the ministry yes real quick. uh Currently do we have any uh funds that's allocated for any uh park uh improvements right now? Well I think we have right a signed fund balance

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uh right Of. uh uh We're back on

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gonna guess yes. It's probably I thought we took the septic from the two million so we have I'll say between the

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back, get on that keyboard, now you know. Got me Mr. Blake poster?

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you do. because

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‸ you got direction son. Even though

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Thank you ma'am. So

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millage rate right now. Is that correct Mrs. Bowman or do

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Mr. Mayor? I'm trying to get ‸ Okay. Right

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now we can still have a simple majority for our current millage rate or we can do a rollback rate at that rate but cannot go higher after this first meeting

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So uh ‸ on the slide here you can see the rollback rate will require a vote of three out of five going with the rollback rate. um And

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it needs to be four out of five but right now you can go three out of five.

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Chair would ‸ like to make a motion to use proposed, well

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announce the requested action would be for council to approve resolution 26-071 adopting the tentative millage rate of 6.9532 mils

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and ending on September 30th, 2027. ‸ and at this time I would

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need to hear public discussion right Mr. City Attorney?

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Did you

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Thank you kindly. If anyone would like to come. ‸ Yes. yeah um If anyone from the audience would like to come forward please state your name. going once Going twice. sure let me close that portion to the public and return to the council.

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All in favor saying aye. Aye. Any nays?

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Nay. may Let the record reflect

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We have yes for

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So

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major funds the line for special revenue funds is actually a combination of several funds. um But the biggest fund would be the water and sewer fund with a budget

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fund and the restricted assets fund, which is essentially where we put our debt service payments. uh The renewal and replacement fund is uh budgeted at 25 million

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roughly, which is for large uh utility infrastructure projects. And then the uh restricted assets funds is budgeted at 6.7 million dollars um and then the remainder of the funds being special revenue funds water and sewer impact fees storm water fund is budgeted about 2.3 million

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Debt service and workers comp. So the total budget is

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So looking at the funds uh one at a time, starting with general fund, uh this slide should look familiar to you. uh This is the different classifications that we have to report our revenue, which is taxes, other permits and fees, intergovernmental fees, charges for services, fines and forfeits and miscellaneous and what's called non-revenue, which is where all your

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go and anything that's uh pulled from fund balance.

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so uh

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looking at the revenue sources by funding source, as you can see at the top, it's about 21 million

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different funds, such as storm water and water and sewer. That comprises about

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uh followed by taxes, which includes utility service tax and uh

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charges for services, we have various services we charge for, such as

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from the water and sewer fund, um garbage collection, and then our water billing fees. We have other permits and fees, such as franchise fees and fire assessment that's 7.4 million intergovernmental revenue is uh things like half cent sales tax that we get from the state, and then interest and fines and forfeits. So the general fund total

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discussion uh previously about uh some of the numbers in the financial statements, so I just wanted to clarify. um

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um That number is what is

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is showing as a budget, but essentially it's budgeted use of fund balance the council approved through various things, such as rolling over unfinished capital projects, such as um in

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which we then pulled back out of fund balance to pay to the state uh for the state uh

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road 524 widening that was 4.3 million dollars we had purchase orders that we rolled over it's about 2.4 million dollars we did have some um assigned fund balance that was approved by city council. And then during the course of the year, there were a few uses of fund balance, such as um uh carrying forward the upstart cocoa for um people that haven't gone all the way through the program yet. uh We bought

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out debt financing with Bank of America for a lease. And at the time the budget was adopted, we uh guesstimated what the debt service was going to be. So

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So if we had spent everything that council had approved to use fund balance for, we would have actually had

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in uh fund balance. um And so um there was a statement made somewhere where we actually grew fund balance. um That's looking at a difference between budget and actual. um And so what you need to look at is actually that that column there where it says final budget and then that change in fund balance. And

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It's a revenue for uh actual versus budget uh schedule that is required to be in the financial statements the council is presented each year. um So I just want to clarify that understanding um as we talk about fund balance and fund balance is growing or going down. um You would have actually experienced a

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as a result of our technical incident that we went through and that public works has some capital needs um which increased their budget so the total increase in the

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also in addition to achieving the cost savings from dispatch going over to the county so we did have significant increases in costs that we needed to have the revenue for uh next I'll talk about the water and sewer fund um as you know the largest revenue source is

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uh pull some money from unassigned fund balance or reserves to transfer over to the renewal and replacement fund uh that was about 20 million dollars

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again showing you by division what the variances are uh this is highly dependent upon the needs of the different divisions so you can see there was increases in the dial water production and water field operations and sellers um water reclamation plant and then also the ROI the pile off and the overhead transfers

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even though um in general fund you have an increase of the budget of 3. ‸ million dollars so those transfers are included in that budgetary increase in general fund storm water um uh the revenue source is through the stormwater assessment

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in it and so that budget is 2.5 million dollars

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improvement plan. um um

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um Looking at it by fund, and as you can see, obviously, the Water and Sewer Fund and Renewal and Replacement has the largest needs. um The the top line there is the Renewal and Replacement. That's, again, where the large capital projects are. Other things on that Water and Sewer Fund line are things like trucks and computers and and uh smaller things like that, dump trucks and things like that that they need. uh

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then in general fund, you can see it's about 2 million, but there's that uh

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projected for a fire station um Then in um the different uh divisions, major capital requests that's included in the fiscal year 27 budget. uh

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is 500 000 They have a dump truck dump truck scheduled. The Harry T. Moore Center, as we've discussed previously, has some leakage on the walls that needs to be fixed and the safe routes to school. The police department has vehicles, six vehicles budgeted for 366 000 And then

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And then the other part of the increase in the budget for IT is from additional costs that have already been incurred in 27. And then we need to do a phone system upgrade due to it reaching end of life.

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which would be part of what's going into the renewal and replacement. You can see, or I'm sorry, the storm water fund or water and sewer regular fund um is, as I mentioned, trucks and vehicles and things like that, that is uh planned for the water and sewer fund. But then what's in the renewal and replacement fund, you see there's a

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million

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sludge dewatering improvements.

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million.

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And then some other various projects. So the utility fund has some large projects coming up in the future. And then in the storm water fund, they have a what's kind of a large project for that fund, ‸ which is a drainage project. They have their annual pipe lining and then the flatbed dump truck.

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to the public to um get any input from the public.

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Okay. Thank you, ma'am. Do we have any questions for Mrs.

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Seeing none. Okay. um Chair would like to open the floor to the public. Please come forward, ‸ state your name pertaining to the budget portion of this. Going once. Mayor

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Yes. Will

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there be another public

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period at the end?

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So, yes, sir. We will be under number three. The resolution portion of it. Going once. Good

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Mr. Triple G. going twice ma'am

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is your preference, ma'am? This is just budgeting portion. Is your comments pertaining relating to the budget? If so, ma'am, please come

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flow is yours, ma'am. State your name for us, pretty please.

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uh Charlene

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uh with Matthews Hope.

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Yes, ma'am.

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um But I just want to say that I think that the uh discussion about the fields was amazing. I only can hope that someday we have that same just kind of discussion about our homeless people that are here in our city. I just realized that we're here now

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years that next year, Matthews Hope is going to be in Cocoa for five years.

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and And the need is growing. So when I it came to my attention that there was a budget meeting tonight, I just want you please, please to keep Matthews Hope in your consideration. um Funds are are very much needed. It is still the people that we're seeing, our fastest growing population are the baby boomers. We're having a lot of littles come in. And to be quite honest, the trend in the past four years, they are still homegrown right

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um if there was a fund or a grant or anything like that, you know, we open every year

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an emergency cold shelter. If there's a hurricane, we open. The funds would go towards meals, food, clothing, hygiene, um outreach overhead, utilities, fresh food. There's so much that's going on right now.

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um going on over five years ago, uh there was one day that I came back in from mobile and

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where are they coming from? And that was back five plus years ago. We had one day in the past week when we see new people coming into outreach. We had 21 brand new, never seen before homeless people. Some had babies, some were in wheelchairs with one leg and most were over the age of 60. so i just want to say that as the the only place that does strictly homelessness, if you can please, please always keep us into consideration when there's a grant or if there's money available, we can absolutely absolutely use the help. Thank you.

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Thank you very much. Yes, ma'am. um ‸ any other individuals

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Let's let's go ahead because you're the only car that I have right now. they only

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Mayor, City Council and staff. It's been a little while since I've been before you talking about the museum. In this case,

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But I would like to say thank you for supporting both of our museums. Not many municipalities would do that. uh To update you on the Friends of Coco's Brevard Museum initiative, I'll give you some statistics. For the previous 12 months,

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the museum hosted 9 785 guests made up of 6 441 adults and 3 344 kids under the age of 13. ‸ included in that guest count we've had 1829 guests and made up of 1241 adults 588 kids to come in and run trains. So that's always very popular. On the volunteer side, we've had 1575 volunteer hours. Everything from front desk and administrative help to the ‸ train guys uh to the Brevard County Master Gardeners maintaining the Butterfly Garden and

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working on the trails. Our docents led 36 tours from places like Coral East Academy, Grace After School, American Cruise Lines, who is coming back again, and more. The ‸ Florida East

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helped procure and distribute over 400 kid goodie bags containing safety information, stickers, crayons, coloring books,

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all in the name of train safety. uh

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review

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Friends of Coco's Brevard Museum.

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Thank you. ‸ sir. ‸ Thank you. Okay. Is there anyone else in the audience?

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Yeah. I just wanted to ask real quick. uh That sounds really good. I know my own grandsons love the the museum and you guys do an awesome job uh with what you do there. So thank you very much uh for all your volunteer hours and

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uh as far as the friends of group our immediate need is to get our hands on the mou so we can review it and get something going uh to be able to to really kick off some events uh as far as the facility itself, uh I have no complaints at all uh with the city. uh Every time uh Mr. Ben

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your facility attendant, calls, he gets a response.

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Wonderful. Okay, thank you. I guess the MOU is being worked on. um i I'm assuming so. But thank you very much. Appreciate it.

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uh Yes, it is. Thank you.

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any other questions Going once. Going twice. shall let

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portion to the public and return it to council. Mrs. Bowman.

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Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. um So at this point in time, the requested action is to approve resolution 2026-072,

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for the fiscal year commencing october 1st 2026 and ending on september 30th 2027. So at this time, I would like for council to vote.

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Okay. I have a question for you, Mrs. Bowman.

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Yes, sir.

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problem with the resolution. um Is this where we have to set parameters, say, in reference of, like, public safety? What will be off limits, like employees, health coverage, uh infrastructure? Is this the time that

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by a simple majority. At the next hearing, it requires a super majority. If that's not there, then it requires a reduction of 173 000 And you all have not told me, given me any priorities with regards to what to cut, what not to cut, what's off limits there.

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to a a super majority on the millage rate. And so that requires a reduction of 173 000 And I'd be happy to take direction with regards to how to get there. Okay.

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my my My number one priority is public safety and infrastructure. I think that should be off limits.

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I think uh um should be addressed, um I know

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Also, um I think about the museums. um And the reason why I'm saying that is because I think the museum should be um

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the chopping block. I mean, because we have artifacts from NASA and we have some artifacts from the zoo. But I do want to protect the signage for our kids uh ‸ in reference of pub public safety. And also, I think it's important that

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um we we consider

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uh would like to protect their projects in their dish So my thing is is to consider some of the locations or areas that we can maybe consider addressing. And

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would like to put that out there.

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you looking for suggestions now or? Well,

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I mean, I gotta i gotta

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And so we can go back, Rebecca, go back to the major capital request. And so I've read certain things are not going to be cut, but

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we established policy. Right. The policy ‸ should come from we as a council as a whole.

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safety, safety, protect that at all costs. So public safety and infrastructure, um I would like to protect. That's off limits and also intel, when

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mean, in reference there on the second floor and road projects, protect those. So my question would then, that's why I stand on maybe looking at the museums uh way of addressing some of their revenue services.

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We want to make sure our children is our number one priority. That falls under the auspices of safety. And I think if we look at museums as a way of reducing our cost.

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we want? Yes ma'am.

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what feedback um I agree with you not to touch police and fire

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there is a contingency for

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this is on page 32 of the materials we were given

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was kind of an odd amount so

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um but at least a portion of

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there. We also whenever we look at budget reductions when I've had to do this in the past I always look um at your own budget and in this case looking at

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thousand becomes more significant. One of the ways to would be to look at reducing that to a five percent with the possibility of if if if there are monies left over at the end of the year then uh they would become bonuses with the uh additional funds available so that they would receive the full seven percent if ‸ in fact um we have we come out at the end of the year with that ability. um and so i mean those are just some

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as executive staff

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i'm not the budget person. I'm just saying, when you say executive staff, are you talking uh myself and the department directors, or are we going? When

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departments, it's identified as executive staff. And I was assuming that it is, you know, that the staff we have here.

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Yeah. So in the executive salary line items, Rebecca, does that, who does that encompass? More than just the directors and myself, right?

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anyone's in drop. None of the directors are in drop, are they?

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In about five minutes, I will be Let me walk over and see

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employee's salary across the board. uh And I'm ‸ protect those, because we always talk about keeping quality personnel. uh um And it'd be asinine to do something of that magnitude, to to to cut the personnel that we clearly see the enhancement of our city. um We're doing outstanding work for our city. People are moving to our city. We're growing and developing. And now you want to change the personnel?

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Well, I don't know that we're going to be able to get to any solid solutions tonight. But there are certain creative ways to look at this. And I'd just

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salary increases are unusual right now. um At the Cape, they're not getting that.

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looked at.

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And there are probably other things that could be looked at. Again, I'm not the budget expert. um I'm just going through these, just going through this, doing the best I can. um You know, I don't think it's

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one of us that um should be determining this or even, well, we can make some suggestions. But uh overall, I have a feeling we're going to have a hard time coming to uh conclusions here without some advisement from the

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okay the financial experts.

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Remember, we set policy. And all we have to do is a simple majority

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So as I mentioned um on one of the slides where we had to go to fund balance to be able to purchase some things, and that's doing one-time purchases. However, sorry, but

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and so we need a recurring revenue source to be able to pay for that. And we've done several budget adjustments where we go to the contingency to be able to fund things like that with the recurring revenue. There was something else that just came up because my staff reviews the actual versus budget, and I can't recall what it was offhand, but

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because it was the type of cost that requires a recurring revenue source. So that's kind of a safety net because otherwise, if you're collecting all the revenue that you're budgeting for, you don't have any revenue to go to to fund some type of unexpected recurring cost. Case in point, what we had to go through with the technical incident, we had to incur some

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a month and

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a month in recurring costs that I can't go to fund balance per the policy that was approved by city council.

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When you say uh that what is the uh council uh thing as far as having to go to reoccurring versus uh the other one that you just stated, uh would that open up more options? And obviously we have to fix this whole fire issue because we spent a fortune out of your reoccurring balance on

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on that, which would give us more money there. But what was what is the council thing as far as that goes that you just talked about, the policy? uh

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It set aside the reserves level. It sets aside uh the ability to assign fund balance. And it

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uh fund balance

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balance for recurring costs. So as we balance the budget each year, we balance recurring revenue with recurring expenses. We've been able to do that with um being able to purchase capital uh equipment and needs in the last several years by using that recurring revenue. So as I stated a minute ago, if something unexpected comes up during the course of the year and I don't have extra revenue that I'm collecting, I need some type of recurring revenue source or you can't do the purchase.

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I see. So we set the policy, but but we could change that if we needed to, per se. Not saying that we should, I'm just trying to understand the pros and cons of that.

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Yeah, you could you could you can certainly, I don't know, i mean ‸ I mean, I don't. Vote yes,

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that's all you have to do.

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I don't think anybody on staff would recommend you change the policy of funding. recurring expenditures with uh ‸ fund balance there, but, but that's a, that's a council policy. And that's also

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a situation that a sister city got into because they were using fund balance to pay for recurring

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thing, let me ask the ultimate question. um and I've asked you all once again, and I'm gonna ‸ ask you again,

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want to stay at the current millage. So, I don't believe that sacrifice is necessary. Okay. I believe, I believe the millage is, is, I mean, quite, quite naturally, we all would like for the millage to be, um at a rollback rate, but I don't believe it's the right time for that moment.

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‸ okay from district number three councilwoman weeks

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um Could you repeat the question?

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in order to go to the rollback rate?

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i At this point, I am not. I believe that there are other areas in the budget where we can trim that. uh

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time to do it. And um so at this point, I would i would say no to that. um I will say this, i and we will be talking about this in a few minutes as far as ‸ my uh my ask for uh

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Rios Park. There will be monies left over in that fund. And then the council will have to decide what to do with that over and above whatever that, because my ask is so much less. Would it cover the

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Absolutely.

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current budget year, so it's not um a recurring source.

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the um And I know

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I think the uh the increased ad valorem revenue was, in that it was ‸ like 6.99 that was the figure i looked you know again i don't have staff and i'm not a professional at this but it's around 700 we are growing and um you know this budget

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is actually three tenths of one percent. I have been here eight years. ‸ Every year we have raised taxes ‸ went back, looked at, um you know, the the book that that I just, I think it's why we get the award. and It's great for anyone in the audience. It's online, too. It just gives you, you can go through the back. It's got like 10 years of trends. And so, ‸ really, if you're interested in the big picture and trending, um you really get a good feel for it here. um Taxes have gone up

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um Our population's gone up about 15 percent. Again, this is the lowest the um shortfall has been in the entire eight years I've been here. And I also know that every year I've been here, that there's a significant cushion. It's good budgeting. But there's a significant cushion. I think we're, I think that we can work this out and let the people know that we respect their money because it is their money.

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take a break, give the um the taxpayers a break this year since it is only three tenths of one percent.

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them that we respect their money, particularly with what we're looking at. um And

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if, you know, something would happen with that. God forbid, but um it looks like it's it's trending away from Amendment

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We'll see. At any rate, right now, based on what we've got, I feel confident that this year we can provide taxpayers with a break. And

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um Again, I said this the first time, one of the reasons this is important to me is ‸ so many people come to me and they're like, they don't like this development or that development. Well, our only response is, yeah, this is good for the city. This is going to reduce your taxes. This is the benefit to you. So I want to be able to say, yes, this is the benefit to you. ‸ I want to deliver on that.

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okay There again, I am going to say this. We set policy. And my thing is to, I'm willing to to, I'm

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Affect

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me.

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But I am willing to protect those three uh concerns. All we have to do is vote to three. That's all I'm saying when it comes time for policy. And I'm a firm believer if you don't want to be a part of the team, because it's done not only on a federal level, on a state level, on a county level, but also on a municipality level. You just got this property uh owner's taxes here.

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You can see the recreation district where we just talked about investing in our own parks. uh You can see the increase in the county General Fund. the only There's 14 categories. The only category that has a direct impact for

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but the county is the one that's making the substantial gain

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not one of the other two remaining council members is willing to come over, you may think you're saving money, but you also can see the increase, so it's going to even cost you greater. And that's the sad thing about it, that you would stop. And even uh

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asked Mrs. Bowman last night

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And that's not even talking about the commercial portion of it. So it will be even less than what was actually stated. So my question is, um if you're going to get bogged down in too minuscule decisions, then I'm willing to say, okay, let me have a direct impact in your district because you're not willing to be a team player. Mr.

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Mayor, can I can i can i say it another way? And and

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you know, as to the extent that the homeowners and property owners are listening. And so if you live in the city of

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and you own property, you pay 14 taxes. And one is controlled by the city of

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so, so, so you go to roll back on that one and the county is going, uh ‸ above rollback. It's going above current. And ironically, it's doing that in uh for the county general, uh fund and it's doing it for the

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so at the end of the day, you pay 14 different, uh taxes as a, as a homeowner, as a, as a property owner in

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the taxes that you pay. And, and, and, and, ‸ I don't know that a whole lot of

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it, um and the others went up, you know, but again, it's, it's just an interesting fact that most people don't know that, hey, I'm paying not only the county general fund, I'm paying for libraries, I'm paying for mosquito control, I'm paying for recreation districts,

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I'm paying for uh school board taxes, um I'm paying, uh obviously, the city, I'm paying the

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John's Water Management. District, I'm paying the Florida Inland Navigation District, and

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uh debt service. And so, you know, that, that drives home that point. um And then we

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actually, in terms of the percentage of revenue, um over the uh last four years, we we had a great year in um in uh

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so we had a we had a great year there. But but each year, it's uh it's being reduced, you know, and so and so, you know, the revenue gain has not been as significant um over the last uh uh three years as it was uh the previous uh three years there. And in fact, this was only a revenue change of 3.3 percent and so and so and we can we can you know we can get into the weeds of

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um to to reduce

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because you got to pay the CRAs and so those are those are real

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be honest with you. You you have road projects that actually occur within districts, but but the determining factor is not the district uh designation. It is the condition of the roadways there. and so So ultimately, at the end of the day, um reducing 173 000 is going to affect a program and our service, or some uh capital purchase. And so if if public safety is off the table, and you just go back to the major capital request, then we're going to maintain the six vehicles. If uh if uh public works and infrastructure is off the table, then we're going to purchase the dump truck. uh And then um

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um And so do you do you do

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not do the city phone system upgrade? um And so,

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you know, because will

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uh But you may come in one day and you're not able to to uh do the software upgrades and and you may not have the same functionality that you have. But

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Yeah, Stockton's correct.

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but uh software updates and everything will will not happen anymore. uh The current system uh is being sunset and the company that we're we're with, uh you know, they have a solution that will allow us to continue using what we have um by updating the software and everything. But ultimately, it needs to be switched out.

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And and obviously, the dollar today, things cost less today

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so And so, again, um between now and the final budget hearing, because you don't want to do the cuts real time. You know, that night is going to be even longer than this night, you know, because you're gonna you're gonna And I do believe and again, I do believe I presented to you a balanced budget proposal and it maintains a current level of service. And so as a policy matter, ‸ you got to direct me. uh If you're not going to get to that, that the millage rate that supports that balanced budget proposal, and you got to give me some direction on how to reduce uh the expenditures that that are um that support that the revenue or the revenue that

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um that 500 000 for the infrastructure modern modernization and consolidation um what was

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so we were trying to scale it back and fit our budget. um But the infrastructure needs are very high and you need the recurring revenue to pay

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you because I i i consider that off limits, you know, just having having gone to where we we we've been in uh February and then actually it being a percentage of what we what may be our actual needs, I took that off the table. And so and so again, um

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to provide me some policy direction with regards to how you want to reduce uh back

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And again, it's, it's a you know, our

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is 26 million of that. is actually yes comes from water. So so you can you can do the percentages and all of that, but it is it is uh more significant than than if you throw that 173 against the 58 or the total budget.

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ask something or say something?

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You want to say something, Mitch? I do. So,

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probably three times more now. As we wait, it's going to keep keep going up.

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‸ Councilwoman Weeks? uh

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Yeah. um You know, these um I see that you're you keep talking about all the major capital requests, but there are other areas of the budget um uh that can be looked at. And I agree. I don't see us cutting anything with the police or or the public works But there are other areas and the IT, obviously. Yes, we know that that's important. But, uh you know, this is kind of the, I'm sorry to say, I feel like you're um trying to to strong arm us into looking at these capital things when there are many other areas in that budget uh that where we can find that. And um and

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and uh the reoccurring uh uh fund because that does keep repopulating. And we go back to how much have we used of that for overtime for the fire department. We've got to get that fixed somehow, some way, so that uh it's not constantly draining us. Because that right there, I mean, we've spent,

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right there is a huge, huge drain on our budget that could be fixed and could easily, then we would have that 172 000 So um just that one alone. ‸ And so there are other areas that can be looked at. And um so I'm just saying, ‸ I don't think any of these major capital requests need to be touched. There are other areas.

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And and so, and I've done this before. um um

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um I was ‸ interim county manager. And so we had to make significant cuts. And there are thousands of line items in the budget. And so if the council's direction is, hey, manager, go away and slice 173 000 out of the budget. And whatever you do, however you do that, will be fine. I can go back and do that. um But that's, that's, that's, I don't think that is um

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proper or I don't, I think the role of the council is to give me some advice. and okay, so, so you don't want to cut capital. So do you want to cut,

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cut the the,

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the council's training and travel budget? Do you want to cut the stipend line item?

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employees? Because

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that's percentage raises.

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Because it's what?

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Percentage raises, which are the significantly higher salaries and there's significantly higher raises. But

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we're trying

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we have competitive Ma'am, we don't even

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spend that much

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on our travel expenses because I travel for free because I'm on the executive direction. ‸ we

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have 50 000 budget. Well,

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ma'am, because you utilize a lot of

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go to conferences. There,

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are, uh significant duties and responsibilities and liabilities, uh on you when you become a director.

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is more, um because again, the liability and the responsibility and ‸ accountability is much more. um ‸ that ain't a public sector, uh philosophy and that That is universal. right

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So, I'm happy to sit down and, you know, meet with whoever and talk about specific line items if that's what you want. um But, um I don't think we're going to come to a conclusion on this this evening.

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the budget item that was stated. And let me read this into the minutes, please.

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October the 1st, 2026. Ending on September the 30th, 2027. And I'm looking for a

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got a second by Deputy Mayor. coins just gonna ‸ call the question. All in favor saying aye. Aye. Any nays?

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Nay.

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Nay. Okay.

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uh we have the majority. So, now. Right. uh now here we go. My question is this. And I'm being straightforward. Nobody's trying to play hall ball but you all are trying to hold us accountable to at the same time. So, um to me, and I, i'm and I'm not going to throw a rock and hide my hand. I'm gonna ‸ stand on my principles. If you don't want to be a part of the team, then, um I think you should have direct impact financially. Because you choose not to see the overall success of the community, the overall success of

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This is three

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So, I'm talking. So, that is my concern.

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All right. Any other questions? Yes, sir. So, um we already kind of see what is going for next week.

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oh yeah.

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um or whenever, what's that date? The

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um so, so, so we see what

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happening. um ‸ I'm in agreeance with the city manager about the responsibility of the cuts. I, I believe we have two weeks or three, two or two and a half, whatever that is, um that especially the two council members that ‸ voting against it should be prepared for that, in my opinion, by 23rd. And so if if we allow the city manager to do it and he make his cuts, they're going to be against what he chooses to cut. That's

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right.

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So we'll still be sitting here for seven hours on the 23rd arguing about what these cuts are. And so, I guess my next question is, say say say that decision happens, city manager makes these cuts, um

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does that vote need a super majority as well as far as dealing with the budget itself?

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‸ Simple ‸ that's a

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simple majority

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Just those three. The simple majority, but

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see where we're going, but I just, I already kind of kind of see this happening the 23rd. And so if if that happens and he makes his cuts and and the council members don't agree, what

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do ‸ is tell them the areas in which to make the cuts, sir. That's

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going to cross over and support the millage rate at 6.9352 so so in other words now is that what areas at 173 000 are we going to cook Now we've are clearly identified already, ‸ stand away from public safety, infrastructure, road projects, uh IT department. um we even said about the signage for the schools, that's off. So now those areas that, which I'm saying is going to impact us because not one of those two will come over and join. So seeing that being the case, then I'm saying, let's look at the museums. Now you don't want to cut anything from district one. So now since they are not willing to cooperate and collaborate and communicate, then my thing is the only way we can do is get their attention is one of those two, and they're not going to budge. So saying that, then you, uh as sports, as you know, uh playing and myself being a professional athlete, I get your attention.

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because I don't want to lose the personnel. I'm gonna ‸ stand on all ten toes with our personnel. And it's not hard to find me.

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house in the city of

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And I don't run. And I'm not gonna ‸ hide behind the disguise. I'll be the man that I'm proposed to be, planning on be, and will continue to be. And I'm gonna ‸ do what's best for our city. period point blank. And I don't want to see our personnel leave. period point blank. Just to prove a point. So if you're gonna ‸ hold me hostage, I'm gonna ‸ honor the line you draw in the dirt. And I'm gonna ‸ fight to the very end.

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Because I respect you when you're talking.

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that is the reason why I'm saying if you're going to play hard ball let's play hard ball And people

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respect that. And they do it on a federal level, a state level, a county level, and

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You do it even at your own church, if you go to church. Or your own Girl Scout, Boy Scout club. Or even that Football Little League, they do

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just want to say that you keep saying we're holding you hostage. But you are in like kind holding us hostage. Because we believe, and I believe, I will speak for myself, ‸ that reducing the millage rate and going to the rollback rate is what's best for the city. It encourages growth. It encourages people to buy homes here because it will reduce how much their payment is in their mortgage. All these people who are buying new homes in my district and also in the other districts, their taxes are sky high. And part of

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they do their, uh when I have a uh buyers get pre-approved, the rollback rate gives them enough extra money where they can afford to perhaps buy. Especially first-time home buyers It makes a difference. Consequently, and we give tax breaks

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how can you say that it's bad for the city to give a tax break when we do it for, and the city manager just talked about it.

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We do it for businesses because we want to attract them.

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as good for property owners uh to get a break on their taxes? it You're speaking out both sides of your mouth when you do that. And so I will stand on that. Now, I'm happy to meet with the city manager.

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We went through the budget line by line. And I'll be happy to do that and look at areas where cuts can be made. It's not throw a dart at a dart board and go cut this.

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cutting the

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museums

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I don't think we need to. I think there are areas that can be dealt with. And so I'm happy to meet with him at any time after this weekend because I should be able to be mobile um and to work on it. And we will come up with stuff that we agree.

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And in this instance, this small amount of ‸ tax relief is what our constituents are asking for and want. So that is all I have to say. And I don't appreciate constantly saying that we aren't willing to play ball. We are willing to play ball.

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city myself. And I have to stand on that principle. I have to stand with my people to say, yes, I fought for

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tax relief. And that's all I'm going to say

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You want to say something? I want to say about but i'm

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I choose not to. Not now because okay I know it's going to be the 23rd is going to be something else. But I just.

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Okay. Yes. um Let's move on to the next one. We've already voted on the budget. It has been approved. um Now we will go to the is it resolution, if I'm not mistaken, or we're squared away.

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‸ Okay. So we're good.

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So next on the list um is, uh as you can see, our next meeting will be septu excuse me September the 23rd, 2026 at 5 0 5 PM. And during that second ‸ final public hearing meeting,

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And you can sit down and meet with the city managers and staff members to talk about what ‸ the areas you are going to maybe consider addressing. But let me say it again.

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said, that museum. And if you're willing to stand on that principle, so am I.

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there.

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meeting? We will see you at our next council meeting, ‸ but also see you September the 23rd, Mr. City

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anything to say? Well, we got it.

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We got a got another item under public hearings. ‸ And then we have the council business item. And so Anthony, are you going to read this into? Yeah. Okay.

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Okay.

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ordinance of the city council of

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adopting the city's five-year schedule of capital improvements in accordance with the Community Planning Act provided

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question

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Okay. Chair, ‸ like to make a motion to approve the ordinance stated. and I'm looking for a second and we will have a discussion. I know we have to listen to the public as well. Second. okay Second.

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from the audience, come forward to state your name. You have three minutes to elaborate on this particular item, ‸ the ordinance going once going twice Chair, let me close this portion to the public and return it to council. Chair's going to call the question. All in favor ‸ saying, aye Aye. Any nays? eyes have it.

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Nay. eyes have it.

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okay next item mr city manager

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Can I make

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would like to, if you don't mind, take a 10 minute recess, please, sir.

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We're going to call the question all in favor saying aye.

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Aye.

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have

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for this item.

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Excuse

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me, you

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did not pick up until after I heard call the question. I have no idea what it was you just voted on.

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Yeah,

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We're

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returning to the council meeting. And I think, Councilman Hearn, you have something you

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want

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to say before I asked for a 10-minute recess?

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Okay. Mr. City Manager. So, this item is at the April 29th Budget Priorities Workshop, ‸ the council approved up to $300,000

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And so, since that time, staff has gone away and gotten quotes on certain equipment. And

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been the $447,000. As we heard ‸ last night, Councilwoman Weeks is not recommending that full listing totaling the $447,000. And I think she's going to recommend an alternate listing that is less than the $447,000. That listing was static exercise equipment that was quoted at $86,000. The playground shades that were quoted at $31,000, which is not recommended by staff. Then the rubber moats for $55,000. The pavilion was quoted at $194,000. And the climbing structure was quoted at $61,000. Again, all of that totals $427,000. And then with a $20,000 contingency, that would have been $447,000. Again, you guys approved up to $300,000 in improvement.

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so,

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be.

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Okay. My recommendation. May I say that now?

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Yes, ma'am. You have the floor.

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Okay. Yeah. I

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structure. And do the, not the rubber mulch, but the ‸ other stuff. The pine, I can't think of the word. Anyway, the other.

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thank you, that the pine mulch that's already there. And also, the one thing that we had talked about originally was adding in two more, and we had the figure for that, two more of the grills around the current pavilion. And that is all I'm asking for for

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at this time.

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Abby, what's the pine mulch amount?

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Well, the revised quote for the static equipment and the playground and the wood mulch is $147,000.

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And then the grills? The

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grills are at, I believe, $500 for

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two. For two?

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Yes.

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$250 each?

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That's correct. They're the industrial ones you see at the beach.

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Okay. So that's,

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That's

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Are you doing a contingency? Would that have a contingency?

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it does not.

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Okay. So, I'm assuming the request is $147,500.

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Do we need to add a contingency in there, Abby?

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It's always wise. Quote

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Yes.

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So $15,000 contingency.

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Is that right? No.

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$162,500.

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So I would like to move that that would be

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Councilman

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Yes. Given the history of these funds,

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was originally allocated for park upgrades, if ‸ you have it. Out there hearing what we heard tonight and what we've been hearing over the

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that we allocate any funding at this time. I know originally this wasn't on our forecast. We didn't predict those conditions to

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city manager and his staff is going to bring forth to us in a couple weeks. So I will be a no vote on this, and I just wanted to state that.

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Okay. Ma'am.

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Yeah, I was just going to say, have we purchased the sign yet for Fisk and Dixon? Because maybe we should hold that back too then.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. You know, if we want to talk about that.

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Yeah.

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And it's a relatively, you know, 147 compared to what we spent on other parks.

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We got a motion on the floor. Okay. Just let's vote. Keep it simple, y'all. We got a motion on the floor made by Councilwoman Weeks and

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items. So I'm going

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call the question. All

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No, ‸ I would like to speak because all I did was... Wait a

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minute,

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ma'am. Hold tight. I'm talking.

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You're calling the question early, I feel. I already

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did. Yes, ma'am. ‸ I waited patiently with you now.

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yes

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right. That is correct. Now, all I did was reiterate what the motion consists of.

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Now,

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if you would like this... That's

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I would love to have your face in the place, but that's not going to happen. So, we have a motion on the floor by you and

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Councilman Hearn has made his concern through his discussion. If you would like to make a comment, then I will hear your comment, and then I'm going to call the question.

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Okay.

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The floor is yours, ma'am.

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Thank you so much.

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You're

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welcome. I appreciate that. My response, first off, to Lavander is, I know you talked about your Anderson Park, but your

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sorry. My brain is not working at full strength tonight. But anyway, we did do upgrades to that. You also took money from the Juni Rios Fund, which I willingly voted for, to put a sign in your district. Yes, Stradley needs work. But as the city manager already said, we've

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and this has been going on since two years before I was even on Council. So it's been four years that these funds were allocated for this park, which deserves these upgrades. And it's the only park in my district, unlike you, you've got multiple parks in your district. Now, I would like to also say that, answer something said earlier by the mayor about, do I go to church? Of course I do. I live by the golden rule, treating other people the way I would like to be treated. And I want to ask, would you all want to be treated the way I'm currently being treated? No, you would not. You wouldn't stand for it. So consequently, I would like this to go through. My people in my district deserve it. There's all those new apartments around there. I

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And this was named after a little kid who was abducted and killed. This

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I reduced it hugely

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used for other parks. And okay, fine, that will happen. Originally, I wanted it to go to the conservation area, and that fell on deaf ears as well. We

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It is something ‸ that the people not only I mean, look, ‸ this is the park closest to the train station. Who knows who else will be coming to that park? So let's do this, make this park look better, have more equipment, and get this done. And

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lot left. And that's all I have to say.

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Thank you, ma'am. All right. I have a motion on the floor by Councilwoman Weeks and a second by Councilwoman

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going to call the question. All in favor by saying aye. Aye.

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Aye.

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Any nays? Nay. Nay. Let the record reflect. Three, two, nay. Now, Councilman Hearn, you made a statement. What was your following statement?

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First, I just want to clear it up. I ‸ do know the parks in my district. I actually only have one park in district, two technically. Anderson Park is in district one. My comment was that I think that, well, actually, I would ‸ like to make a motion that the funding that was left

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the city manager and his staff bring forward to us. And I just like to say, I haven't

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I've

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So,

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If I can get any support on that motion.

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Okay we have a motion on the floor by Councilman Hearn to allocate the funding. Am I

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discussion.

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Would

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was 147. Would you consider at least doing the grills?

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Doing what?

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The grills.

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Unbelievable.

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‸ Either the grills or nothing. I'll

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will amend my motion to keep the recommendation for ‸ the grills on there. However, we saw that's going to be a huge task for the staff to

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I just want, we talked about perception to our citizens. I want them to know that we doing everything that we can. And their concerns didn't fall on deaf ears.

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So ‸ if you're going to amend your motion, I'll amend my motion to reflect your request. Councilwoman

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new residents on 524 in that area. I

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their own parks within their communities. So I definitely thought that out.

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Come on.

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Yeah. Can

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Okay. Yeah. Yeah. When I go there, all I meet are people who are coming not only from the neighborhoods around it, but they're coming from the parks or from the apartments. Because the park, ‸ I mean, the apartments, little parks, playgrounds do not

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And

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if we don't do the exercise equipment, we need to at least do the climbing thing because it's the kids ultimately that need the stuff. I wanted the exercise because I see adults walking and going through there. But the climbing thing, which was, I think, $61,000, that and the grill needs to go in and there needs to be new substrate because that is, that's older. But at least do that, the grills and that $61,000 climbing thing so that there is a new piece of equipment for all those kids that go there all the time. And, and, and,

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uh, um,

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Deputy Mayor Goins, you have talked about, you've gone there for parties. You know how it is. They,

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And

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My own grandkids, grandma, why don't we have monkey bars? Why don't we have that stuff? And that park needs that. So please at least do that. Then the rest of it can go to Stradley park or wherever, but at least let's do that.

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Chills

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‸ call the question. All in favor saying aye. Aye. Any nays?

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Nay.

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Let the record reflect three, two, yes. So his motion passes. City manager, sir. That's it for us, sir. Do we have any other comments from council or staff or even the audience?

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Yeah. You all have let me down.

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You know, ma'am. God bless you, ma'am. That's

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bless you. Don't,

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Chair

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Got a second on the floor.

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Aye.

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all right.

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