City Council

City Council - 2nd Budget Hearing

Date: 2025-09-16
Status: Draft minutes and machine transcript available
Source: CivicClerk event #1247
Also captured via: YouTube mirror (Rn9N7YYMqgQ) ↗ — alternate recording of the same meeting; primary transcript shown above.

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What the City's record shows

Draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2025-11-18, pp. 12–17; approved as written by the City Council on 2025-11-18 according to the City's minutes. The City has not posted the approved minutes as a separate file. The approving motion, “to approve the minutes for the September 16, 2025 24 Budget Hearing of the City Council as written”, is in the City's minutes (2250_11_18_2025.pdf, p. 2).

Built only from this meeting's draft minutes (2068_11_18_2025_City_Council_Agenda_Packet.pdf, packet pp. 12–17). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

Listed present when the roll was taken: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss
Arrived after the roll: Lavander Hearn (the minutes note: “via phone 6:35PM”)
(Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines.)
Absences: the minutes print an “ABSENT” heading with no names under it.
Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Anthony A. Garganese (City Attorney), Stockton Whitten (City Manager), Lori Chabot (Recording Secretary), Abigail Morgan (Public Works Director), Rebecca Bowman (Finance Director), Jonathan Lamm (Fire Chief), Evander Collier IV (Police Chief), Kate Ennis (Deputy Utilities Director), Samantha Senger (Communications and Economic Development Director), Rob Beach (Chief Technology Officer), Dalyn Sims (Helpdesk Support Tech)
Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (5)

1. Agenda: Second City Council Budget Meeting on September 16, 2025. (2025-775) — to approve the Agenda for the September 16, 2025, Second City Council Budget meeting as written (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lorraine Koss); PASSED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 2, packet pp. 12–17
1. Conduct a Public Hearing on the Tentative Millage Rate and the Tentative FY2026 Budget and Adopt Resolution No. 2025-62, adopting a tenta — to adopt Resolution No. 2025-62 adopting a tentative millage rate of 6.9532 mills for the City of Cocoa, commencing on October 1, 2025, and ending September 20, 2026, for discussion (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 3-2; ayes: Mike Blake, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn; nays: Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks — the draft minutes p. 3, packet pp. 12–17
1. Conduct a Public Hearing on the Tentative Millage Rate and the Tentative FY2026 Budget and Adopt Resolution No. 2025-62, adopting a tenta — to adopt Resolution No. 2025 -63 adopting the FY2026 tentative budget and CIP for the City of Cocoa Fiscal Year, commencing on October 1, 2025, and ending on September 30, 2026, for discussion (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 4, packet pp. 12–17
2. Approve a Second Reading of Ordinance 09-2025 adopting the proposed revisions to the solid waste contract/franchise with Waste Management — to approve a Second Reading of Ordinance 09 -2025 adopting the proposed revisions to the solid waste contract/franchise with Waste Management inc. of Florida to provide residential and commercial solid waste services within the incorporated city limits of the City of Cocoa. Authorize the Mayor, City … (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by (not read reliably from the minutes' text — the page is the record)); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 5, packet pp. 12–17
to adjourn the Regular meeting of September 16, 2025 (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 5, packet pp. 12–17

Draft minutes, as printed in a later agenda packet

Source: 2068_11_18_2025_City_Council_Agenda_Packet.pdf, the agenda packet of the 2025-11-18 meeting, packet pp. 12–17; lines 403–619 of the City's text of that file. The packet's own page footers are left out below.

Read the draft minutes

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MINUTES
City of Cocoa
Second Budget Meeting of The City Council
September 16, 2025
The Second City Council Budget Meeting was held on Tuesday, September 16, 2025,
in Cocoa City Hall, in City Council Chambers, located at 65 Stone Street, in Cocoa,
Florida, 32922, as publicly noticed.
I. Opening Matters:
Mayor Blake called the meeting to order at 6:02 p.m.

Councilmember Goins provided the invocation, and Deputy Mayor Weeks led the
assembly in the Pledge of Allegiance.

The Recording Secretary took the roll.

PRESENT: Michael C. Blake Mayor
Patricia Weeks Deputy Mayor
Alex Goins Councilmember
Lavander Hearn Councilmember – via phone 6:35PM
Lorraine Koss Councilmember
Anthony Garganese City Attorney
Stockton Whitten City Manager
Lori Chabot Recording Secretary

ABSENT:

OTHER STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT:

Abby Morgan, Public Works Director; Rebecca Bowman, Finance Director; Charlene
Jennifer Justiniano, Manager, Community Services; Jonathan Lamm, Fire Chief;
Evander Collier, Police Chief; Kate Ennis, Deputy Utilities Director; Samantha Senger,
Communications and Economic Development Director; Rob Beach, Chief Technology
Officer; and Dalyn Sims, Helpdesk Support Tech.

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II. Approval of Agenda and Minutes:

1. Agenda: Second City Council Budget Meeting on September 16, 2025. (2025-775)

* MOTION by Mayor Blake ; Seconded by Councilmember Koss to approve the
Agenda for the September 16, 2025, Second City Council Budget meeting as
written.
AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0).

III. Delegations:

VI. Public Hearings:

1. Conduct a Public Hearing on the Tentative Millage Rate and the Tentative FY2026
Budget and Adopt Resolution No. 2025-62, adopting a tentative millage rate of 6.9532
mills for the City of Cocoa, commencing on October 1, 2025, and ending September
20, 2026; and Adopt Resolution No. 2025 -63, adopting the FY2026 tentative budget
and CIP for the City of Cocoa Fiscal Year, commencing on October 1, 2025, and
ending on September 30, 2026. (2025-885) (Finance Director)

Director Bowman began with a presentation designed to address questions from the
1st Budget meeting. City Manager Whitten provided further information as well.

Ms. Bowman explained the effects of what could happen if the city went back to the
rollback millage rate. She added that the city would lose a substantial amount of
money in property taxes over the course of ten years.

Deputy Mayor Weeks asked if that takes into consideration any future growth and
Director Bowman confirmed it did. Further discussion continued on this subject.

City Manager Whitten stated that there are assessed value increases each year, the
max being three percent of CPI, so that is the ceiling, and it is often lower. What was
not considered in the initial projections was that at some point, in the NW corridor of
the city, we will need a fire station. The tentative budget is balanced against recurring
revenues and expenses and the ability to build the fire station is from recu rring
revenue. As we continue the pursuit of Brightline , the city could be in a subst antial
deficit. Additionally, we must consider staffing and roadway improvements , the 524

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expansion, the city parks, the Joe Lee Smith Center with maintenance/improvements,
additional cameras wherever possible, and IT needs a new server.
Director Bowman completed her presentation and addressed questions from Council.

Councilmember Koss asked if it was unusual to cash fund a fire station. In response,
Director Bowman replied no, because if a bond isn’t needed then that is good.

Councilmember Koss asked about the cost of the cameras at Stradley Park . In
response, Director Beach explained the y are out door cameras and that drives the
costs up . Chief Collier shared how helpful the cameras have been for them with
making arrests. Discussion expanded to the possible use of drones as well.

Councilmember Hearn joined the meeting via phone at 6:35PM.

Mayor Blake opened the item up to the public for comments. There being no further
questions or comments, Mayor Blake closed the item to the public.

* MOTION by Mayor Blake ; Seconded by Councilmember Goins to adopt
Resolution No. 2025-62 adopting a tentative millage rate of 6.9532 mills for the
City of Cocoa, commencing on October 1, 2025, and ending September 20, 2026,
for discussion.

Deputy Mayor Weeks stated she believes in our growth but if taxes continue to rise,
we may not have growth . She would like to see the city go to the roll back rate for a
year and give the citizens a break.

Councilmember Koss thanked the staff for their hard work and explanations regarding
the budget. She is happy to see how stable the city is and would like to see the city
roll back for the citizens as there will be additional increases in cost of living and feels
the city could do that this year.

Councilmember Hearn stated he believes the city needs to go with the recommended
millage to keep services at a higher standard.

Mayor Blake added he would like to see the city continue to grow.

AYES: Blake, Goins, Hearn
NAYS: Koss, Weeks

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THE MOTION CARRIED (3-2)

* MOTION by Councilmember Goins ; Seconded by Mayor Blake to adopt
Resolution No. 2025 -63 adopting the FY2026 tentative budget and CIP for the
City of Cocoa Fiscal Year, commencing on October 1, 2025, and ending on
September 30, 2026, for discussion.
Director Bowman continued the presentation on the budget/CIP, noting that there was
one change from the prior meeting which is to accommodate a staff title change.
Mayor Blake opened the item up to the public for comments. There being no further
questions or comments, Mayor Blake closed the item to the public.

AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)
City Manager Whitten confirmed the Motion made for the Budget and CIP.
Councilmember Goins shared that his conversations with residents does not include
complaints of high taxes. Those conversations are about other issues.
Deputy Mayor Weeks shared she hears a lot of complaints regarding increasing
property taxes.
Councilmember Koss added she has asked about the bus shelter s and stated there
are not many visible improvements in her district.
2. Approve a Second Reading of Ordinance 09-2025 adopting the proposed revisions to
the solid waste contract/franchise with Waste Management inc. of Florida to provide
residential and commercial solid waste services within the incorporated city limits of
the City of Cocoa. Authorize the Mayor, City Manager, and City Attorney to execute
all documentation needed to implement the proposed contract revisions. (2025 -885).
(Comm & Economic Development Director).

City Attorney Eick announced that this is the Second and Final Reading of Ordinance
No. 09-2025 and read the title into the record as follows:
Ordinance No. 09-2025
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF COCOA, FLORIDA,
APPROVING AN AMENDED AND RESTATED SOLID WASTE FRANCHISE

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AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF COCOA AND WASTE MANAGEMENT OF
FLORIDA, INC., ATTACHED HERETO; ESTABLISHING SOLID WASTE SERVICE
CHARGES AS PROVIDED BY SECTION 9-37 OF THE CITY OF COCOA CODE OF
ORDINANCES; PROVIDING FOR ANNUAL INCREASES IN SERVICE CHARGES
EQUAL TO THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX FOR GARBAGE AND TRASH;
EXTENDING THE ORIGINAL TERM TO SEPTEMBER 30, 2030; PROVIDING FOR
REPEAL OF PRIOR INCONSISTENT ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS,
INCORPORATION INTO THE CODE, SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Director Senger stated there have been no changes.

Mayor Blake opened the item up to the public for comments. There being no further
questions or comments, Mayor Blake closed the item to the public.

* MOTION by Deputy Mayor Weeks ; Seconded by Mayor Bla ke to approve a
Second Reading of Ordinance 09 -2025 adopting the proposed revisions to the
solid waste contract/franchise with Waste Management inc. of Florida to provide
residential and commercial solid waste services within the incorporated city
limits of the City of Cocoa. Authorize the Mayor, City Manager, and City Attorney
to execute all documentation needed to implement the proposed contract
revisions.
AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)
VII. Adjournment:

* MOTION by Mayor Blake ; Seconded by Deputy Mayor Weeks to adjourn the
Regular meeting of September 16, 2025.
AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)
The meeting adjourned at 7:17 p.m.

________________________________
Michael C. Blake, Mayor
ATTEST:

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______________________________
Monica Arsenault, City Clerk
(Transcribed by: Lori Chabot, Recording Secretary)

Agenda (the City's wording)

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I. Opening Matters

1. Call to Order
2. Invocation
3. Pledge of Allegiance
4. Roll Call

II. Approval of Agenda and Minutes

1. Agenda: City Council 2nd Budget Hearing of September 16, 2025.

III. Delegations

IV. Public Hearings

1. Conduct a Public Hearing on the Final Millage Rate and the Final FY2026 Budget and: Adopt Resolution No. 2025-62 adopting a final millage rate of 6.9532 mills for the City of Cocoa, commencing on October 1, 2025, and ending September 30, 2026 Adopt Resolution No. 2025-63 adopting the FY2026 final budget and CIP for the City of Cocoa Fiscal Year, commencing on October 1, 2025, and ending September 30, 2026. — 00:02:27
2. Approval on Second Reading of Ordinance 09-2025 adopting the proposed revisions to the solid waste contract/franchise with Waste Management Inc. of Florida to provide residential and commercial solid waste services within the incorporated city limits of the City of Cocoa. Authorize the Mayor, City Manager, and City Attorney to execute all documentation needed to implement the proposed contract revisions. — 01:10:00

V. Adjournment

VI. Notice to the Public

Transcript Partial transcript

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stand, please.

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indication, please, sir. Amen.

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Our gentleman, Father, we just thank you so much for bringing everyone here safely tonight.

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the rain, but not too much

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on the behalf of the city. We thank you for all

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Councilmember Koss. Here.

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I'm happy to say it, Madam Clerk. Is that correct? Yes, sir.

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let you know, as they always say, state, once an adult, twice a child. We got squeaking prom in the house, girl. That's all right. That's all right, ma'am. We appreciate you

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being here. That's your commitment and dedication to the great city of Cocoa.

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Okay. Proceeding on with tonight's minute, as you all know, we are doing our budgeting for tonight. Chair would like to make a motion to approve the agenda.

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Okay, I'll second that.

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Okay, we have a second on the floor by Councilwoman Calls.

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All in favor saying aye. Aye. Any nays? Ayes have it unanimously. Proceeding on to delegations. Madam Singer, do you have any cards?

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once, going twice, saying none. Okay, public hearing. Conduct

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As you know,

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state mandate that we do establish a millage rate and also approve our budget, but we will surrender the... Okay, let me ‸ do it my way. City manager or city ‸ attorney, do you have anything to say before I turn the floor over to Mrs. Bowman?

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Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

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Okay, saying none, thank you. Yours

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truly, the effervescent, intelligent Mrs. Bowman.

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Before we get started with the actual budget hearing portion of this meeting, we wanted to go over some of the questions that arose at the last budget hearing in regards to this informational data presentation that council was provided. So

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We have presented information that 30% of the market value is taxable, and the question was, does the 30% include residential and commercial properties? So the answer is yes, the total

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So that

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far as taxable

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market value. Okay.

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Then we wanted to show you kind of the composition of taxes that are being paid in the city, taxable values of homes.

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this chart kind of breaks out for you

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paying really minimal amount of taxes.

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The taxable value

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So ‸ on this chart, if you just to drill home what Mrs. Bowman is ‸ illustrating, ‸ if you look at the

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And this is everything. So this is residential. This is commercial. Pay less than $700 a year in property taxes. And so ‸ that's ‸ fairly significant. You know, it's an indication of an older housing stock, ‸ perhaps. It's an indication of opportunities to do refill and redevelopment and all of those sort of things there. But I think this is ‸ a good chart because it really shows

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stratification with regards to taxable values. For our tax

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And then we did an average, just total properties. The average taxable value is about $130,000. So it's really hard to even find a house for $130,000.

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‸ Ma'am, Councilwoman calls.

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Yeah, so if you go back to that slide, because we have been using, I think it was 39% or something,

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residential parcels, are paying taxes. ‸ This is all properties, commercial and

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residential. Okay. And so that's demonstrating about 18% of them are really bearing the burden.

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So the market value that you're referring to was the first slide that I presented that is 39% of the market value is taxable.

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62% of the market value is taxable values, taxable property. Okay. ‸ Another question that came up was, we had showed you all a picture of the dollar breaking out the taxes. So this is a demonstration of a tax bill itself. And you can see there's a total millage for this piece of property of 17.4184 mills, of which the city of Cocoa

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rate that they're paying taxes on. And then you can see, ‸ kind of hard to see, but the top part in gray is all the county taxes.

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And then there's special district taxes as well on this piece of property.

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But the portion that's going to the

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So another question ‸ was, um, uh, requested that we see what the chart was that, um, Councilwoman Weeks had looked at with the consultant, uh, with Stantec regarding going to the rollback rate. And this is the slide that shows going to the rollback rate. And you can see starting in roughly, well, actually this is not quite the same slide. Um, I apologize for that. Um, this slide is showing what would be the effect of going to the rollback rate.

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a fire station. So initially the slide that Councilwoman Weeks looked at, it showed, um, on that top left-hand slide, all the bars were above the black line.

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they were. Um, and so one thing that the consultant didn't build in was other future needs. So he did have some inflationary factors built in, but not all inflationary factors. So if you look at this, um,

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of $4 million in property tax revenue over the 10-year period, which is the $400,000 starting this year and every year thereafter. ‸ You would spend down unassigned fund balance within five years.

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ensuring stable tax rates, long-term financial planning, managing cash flows, and offsetting any kind of revenue shortfalls. Keeping in mind that ‸ unassigned fund balance can only be used for one-time purchases in accordance with the fund balance policy that was adopted by City Council.

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just wanted to ask about that particular slide, if I could, or I mean, if you want to finish that

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and then I'll ask.

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Oh, well, I was just going to ask now, when you say that, um, that we would lose $4 million over, what was it?

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years. That does not take into account, um, the future, ‸ all the growth and the new stuff that's coming in. And that's just based on what we have today at the rollback rate.

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That's correct.

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Well, but you, but you also lose that against that future growth because you're rolling back the multiplier. So, so you get the growth, but the multiplier is less. And so you lose that forever. You potentially lose more than the 400,000, because this is

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4%. Well, if they go up 8%, then, then, then again, your multiplier being low, you lose even more than the 400,000 a year. So, so you kind of lose it forever.

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tax taxable value increases are going to be into the future.

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getting what you're saying about the losing the multiplier per se, but with the future growth, we're going to have more tax, more and more tax revenue. I mean, look at all that has not even come online yet.

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in at this point.

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third row, says tax value increase.

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that, that is factored in. It's just

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what percentage can you predict that at this particular point? You can see for this year was six, six, ‸ six point six. And then next year, the, the

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And so, and so again, if you, if you were, let me say it another way.

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more revenue than 6.7367. So, so, so it's kind of a, of a revenue, not realize predicament.

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yeah, it would be revenue that you wouldn't be able to get the full benefit of over the 10 year time period. And as the city manager pointed out, this is going with an assumption of taxable value increase

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a crystal ball to know what that actual number is going to be at the end of the day.

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That, that is true, but we know that property values that especially homesteaded ones, they're going to, I mean, they're going up 3% minimally, but all the other stuff has gone up substantially and investment properties capped at 10%. Um, but it's still because we're so behind because of the caps, they're going to go up considerably for quite a while.

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full rate. So anyway, thank you. I appreciate the info.

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You're welcome. And so ‸ one light on one more question, please. And ‸ then we'll let you proceed. Thank you for your patience.

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So the, the 6.73, the rollback rate, if we needed to, of course, you could increase that next year.

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mean, if you,

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your, uh, trajectory started to look, uh, really bad. I'm just thinking that, and of course, all of these are very conservative. The estimates here for future growth are very conservative. I've been here seven years and this has always been much less than what we actually did.

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um, of course, I'm glad that they're conservative in their projections, right? That's what you want them to be. But I also know that there is room here.

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That's my only point.

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Uh, being here all my life, I've seen the improvement, the vast improvement. I've seen crime go down. I've seen our population base starting to grow. I'm seeing businesses, uh,

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We could talk about, um, um, what we have, uh, Amazon online, the expansion of Caltech, the expansion of multiple, uh, multi-businesses in our area.

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So clearly beyond a shadow of a doubt, we're moving in the right direction with the esteemed leadership, ‸ the esteemed leadership of our city manager, city attorney, and our staff and directors and the citizens of Cocoa and all 400 plus employees of the great city of Cocoa. And that is

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We're seeing the dividends pay off because if you continue to chisel away, you have nothing. And then that's what happened to Cocoa because a few ruled many. And that's been the problem. So now we have more people sitting at the table that can make major contributions and the development. Look at the enhancement. The value of the city has increased. And as the city changes, so will our resources and the demand of resources and services here. Here, we're getting kids for the first time ever from high school, getting a job. We're securing a future for our citizens, the future, your grandkids. That's a beautiful thing when you know you can set it up so that their future is well secured and this will enhance their family life and stay, pray, and live in this area. It's a wonderful thing to know that I can stay within a mile radius and go from pre-K to postgraduate school

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And that is

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And that's why I will stand on this ‸ more fiber and we will always have this robust conversation.

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And we have a lot to offer for our city. We're the hidden jewel. Well, I don't want to be hidden anymore. I want to be on Front Street right there leading the pack. It's either follow or get the hell out of the way. That's the way I look at it.

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I'll say it that way for you all too as well. City manager, the floor is yours.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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couple of things on the on the statutory assess value increases each year. Actually, the maximum

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or CPI.

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So that's the ceiling. In a lot of instances, it's much, much lower than that. Just that's a just a factual matter. What Peter didn't do.

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know Mrs. Bowman has already said this at some point in time. Um, as we develop in

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Um, we know you're gonna ‸ need a fire station and what you're looking at here is largely. Uh, ‸ spending down of your cash issue because we balance the, uh, the budget, the tentative budget now against, uh, recur recurring revenues for recurring expenditures there. And so really what we're talking about when we're looking at the red lines is how, how quickly. Are you gonna ‸ spend down your cash reserve? And so, uh, what he did in terms of that was in five years, uh, can you cash fund? Can you near cash fund a fire station? So built up reserves allows you to do that at some point.

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forget what the projection of what a fire station would cost five years from now. Who knows? Um, I forget what the, what the current, uh, fire stations call, uh, cost there. So fire station,

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10% uh, insurance increases. And we see those increases each year. The industry sees the increases. The market sees the increases we've done really well.

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digit level there.

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a long time is being funded from recurring revenues there. Now that we have a lot more capital needs than we can fund with recurring revenues. And so, uh, but this projection assumes that we're gonna ‸ be able to fund $2 million from recurring revenue, uh, capital from recurring revenues each year.

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And so as we continue the pursuit of the bright line station, remember that that was, uh, a federal

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And assuming that we were gonna ‸ get a $4 million earmark from, um, from, uh, Congressman, it was Congressman Posey,

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So we're assuming that the federal dollars, the federal grant dollars come

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And so, and so how are we gonna

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Uh, public safety is always

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whatever they're called chief. I forget. I just call them all fire trucks.

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We could certainly do more than that.

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and then other equipment, uh, radios, just other equipments of the, uh, of the, uh, first responders there. And then I, I talked about at some point in time, you

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have more officers on the street. You

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have more firefighters because the station doesn't come with personnel. And so even if you were able to, to save up,

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‸ be 10 million. You

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staff it chief to, to, uh, to, to do what? Three shifts. How many is that? 14 somewhere in there. So, so, so there's that, um, roadway improvement. We, we do, uh, half a million dollars in repaving each year. And that only affects or meets 3% of where we need to be.

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So, so you just do, you just do the, do the math 500 divided by 3% will get you what you actually need in terms of how big that number needs to be.

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I think I said that right.

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and then just other things that we're working on.

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we've

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We may need to be, uh, in that ball game because the state doesn't seem to be, uh, too terribly interested in coming to the plate with state dollars.

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expansion or renovation or improvements, the 501 improvements

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parks. At some point in time, you're going to have to have a discussion about, um, about equipment, about renovations and, and, and most, and probably more importantly, or just as importantly operations. Because at some point in time, the system that we have right now doesn't work. And so, and so you're going to have to talk about that. Um, we have two regional parks that, that I think we could put dollars in today and, and still not be at a level that they should be at. And that's provost and stradley. Um, we have the, the former Dr. Jolie Smith community center. That's a project. And then we have the smaller parks there. Um, you know, you can look at early retirement of debt and then, uh, citywide. And I have the numbers here. So citywide, uh, Mr. Greenwood likes to say we're ‸ tree city or a little small tree city. Uh,

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and we, we're doing some things that obviously I can't disclose on security cameras. And we're doing things not only in our parks, but we're doing things in the community with, with community partners there. But that's a, that's a big cost, um, to that. Uh,

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uh, to do the cameras the way, uh, the police department has suggested.

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And so, so again, you know, one of my big thrusts has been, uh, we need to actually have cameras everywhere where we can have cameras there. I've talked to you about the aesthetics throughout the city where we're doing, um, the median improvements on 520. Um, I made a note to myself to ask you about that, Abby, cause I think we've done the irrigation on 520.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. So, so we're going to suffer with some ugly medians until, until we, till we get ‸ to that. But again, just our transportation

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um,

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and these are all needs,

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uh,

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FEMA grant matches.

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um, you know,

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but, but we are, we are, I knocked on wood. We are, we are still waiting on reimbursement from 2017. So, so, and that,

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that those dollars aren't coming the way they used to. And so there's going to have to be some, uh, general fund support. Um, again, I, I realized that the civic center and ‸ the Porsche house are in the CRA, but what's the extent to which the CRA can actually fund the renovations improvements that are needed there? The roof, the AC on the, on the civic center, um, renovations and improvements at the Porsche house. And then, um, it capital needs, uh, certainly within this, within the chambers, but servers and switches are always going to be a need. Um, and those are, those are big dollars there. A server runs roughly what?

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However, it's the software

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uh, even more expensive that runs, you know, 50 to 70.

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so again, just to, just to sort of off the top of my head, sort of listing of, of needs that are, that are one time, maybe not one time. Uh, certainly we have a CIP. You can take a look at the CIP and

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And although we're doing well in terms of, uh, fiscal or in terms of the cash savings, but long term, we still have a lot of unmet needs out there. And so again, just wanted to put that on the record,

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Mayor and

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Council.

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Thank you very much, Mr. City manager. Do we have

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Mrs. Bowman.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So, um, I went back to this slide because I was going to point out that this does include a fire station assumes it would be cash funded. And in 2030, you're starting to dip into your cash reserves and actually running negative, um, cash reserves there as far as on an annual basis. And this does not include any of the police officers, firefighters and equipment that would be associated with, um, getting a new fire station operable. And you can see in 2033, we're starting to get below our reserves. And then in 2034 and 2035, we actually do get below our reserves.

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So we went over that and,

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questions that were at the previous meeting. However, the rest of the presentation, as it was originally presented is, um, continued on. If there are any further questions other than that, if there are none, then I will go back over to the budget portion of the meeting.

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Okay. We have a question here. Councilwoman calls.

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a fire station?

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I wouldn't say it's unusual. No, if you can avoid issuing a bond, you would try and avoid issuing a bond.

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Okay. I'm just, I know that, um, we are still going to be paying for the other three fire stations till 2046. And I know what a controversy they are, you know, at least the, the non ad valorem stuff from, we've, we've heard from people in the audience about those. So I'm just, just curious cause that would be even more reason

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to avoid, uh, going out for another bond issue.

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Okay. Any questions for Mrs. Bowman? Okay.

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I do have one question, but I didn't want to get into it too much because I know it's, it kind of takes us away from the conversation, but you mentioned 37,000 for cameras at Stradley park.

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37,000.

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It's a,

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Um,

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for cameras? Yeah. Why do we have so many cameras there?

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Yeah. Cameras, cameras do a lot, a lot more than just give you that sort of grainy picture.

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drivers, what the tag, tag of the car is.

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cameras actually can send you to a gun shop,

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much more sophisticated, but I'll, I'll let Mr. Beach jump in on why the cost. I

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question was because I know the ‸ activity there is periodic, you know,

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No, there are a lot of, there are a lot of leagues that, uh,

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requires quite a few cameras in order to have coverage over the areas of the pleading, uh, police department wanted to have coverage. Uh, another challenge there is, um, network connectivity is getting that data back to us. So we have to rely on a lot of wireless technology, uh, for that to happen. So it's, it's a large one time investment, but,

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You can go out and buy in a, um,

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department store. Uh, they have to be hardened for exterior use, uh, in, in the public. Um, so

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it's a one time investment, but we're covering a very large area.

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And if we're, we're, if we're ever going to overcome, um, the perception, the old perception, um, I think cameras are going to play a big part in that chief chief.

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can tell you, uh, about how we've utilized those in the parks and, and, uh, it's just, it's a, it's a tool that's worked for us.

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Okay. Yeah. So I'm, I'm like the city manager, um, big advocate of cameras. Um, we've, we've, uh, made a lot of, I mean, a whole lot of drug arrests with those cameras. So having cameras throughout this city, we can see a lot of transactions and, uh, be able to act on those accordingly. You know, just as well as, um, when you have those nuisance type things going on, we can have someone watching from afar and be able to respond and, and, and potentially get some type of criminal, um, you know, get some type of, uh, an arrest out of, out of the deal. So, so it's important. So I know 30,000 sounds like a lot, but it's well worth it

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for the safety of our community.

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Not just in your neighborhood. ‸ Not today.

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to do because of security, because of fire, because of police protection, that sometimes it's easier and quicker to launch a drone and disperse it in a particular area.

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severe flooding may take place. Um, a catastrophic, uh,

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event that takes place where it flattens a golf a bit, even our city, but we can let them borrow equipment. But to me, I think that will be the way to go as well. So I just think that the, one of the pinnacle points ‸ will be the cameras, but futuristically speaking drones will be the pivotal player in all of this.

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And so these officers are able to, you know, the tags are read remotely, the officers get a hit on their phones, and they're able to go out and make these traffic stops on people who have bad licenses and things like that. So

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keep up with the type of people that's actually coming to our community, which in turns help us with making the city safer.

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Okay. Mrs. Bowman, is that it? ‸ Councilwoman calls?

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Yes, ma'am. Thank you.

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Also of note, the, um, the

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And that's all I had, uh, regarding the previous presentation. So I'll switch over to the, uh, budget presentation portion of the meeting, sir.

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I can't put it out on the floor to see if any of my citizens want to discuss this. Thank you.

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public. Please call them forward and state your name so you can,

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elaborate

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of 6.9532 for the city of Coco.

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to,

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uh, Mr. Mayor, I'm sorry. I misunderstood you.

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need to go through the presentation part of the budget hearing and then give it back to council and then you can give it to the, um, so

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it's not necessary for us to do it independently.

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‸ Sorry.

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Hearing, um, reminding council that at this meeting you will adopt a final millage rate for the fiscal year.

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on July 22nd. Um, the budget, the balanced

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uh, state statute. And then after we get through the adoption of the final millage rate, then we will adopt the final budget. So, um, as you saw previously in the presentation, um, for the tentative hearing, uh, this chart is showing you comparative city rates. Um, and it shows that the

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6.9532. Um, however, there are transfers to the CRA. So the

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Uh,

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cities.

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avalorum collection rates as a percent of their general fund revenue. Um,

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that general fund

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transfers. So this, uh, shows you visually, uh, ranking the cities, um, starting at the top left ranking by millage rate. Uh, cocoa is, um, second highest. Um,

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then going down from that, the

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is a percent of total general fund revenue. You can see cocoa is the lowest, um, going

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Cocoa is about in the middle. And then as far as total general fund revenue, cocoa again is, is a fourth highest, but that does include the inner fund transfer.

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So ‸ looking at the rate options, um, in accordance with the trim statutes, the proposed final rate is 6.9532

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It's a $742,000 increase from last year. The rollback rate is 6.7367, which would be only a $340,000 increase. And that would, um, or you could go with a unanimous vote where you could go up to a total of 10

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which is state statute limitation,

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you every year to just display for you what your options are.

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going to the rollback rate where you would lose that differential between the proposed final rate and the rollback

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So to provide you an example of some things in the budget where, um, it would, um, be up that things could be cut from the budget,

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you would have to change expenditures because your revenue and your expenditures have to balance. So, um, as you

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as a city manager stated previously, we're funding seven vehicles for the police department. That's about $397,000. Um, and also the fire department needs a diesel generator to ensure that they have power during, uh, power outages. That is about $200,000.

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that has been funded by using reoccurring revenue rather than, um, to be able to get the, the budget balance. And so, um, the city manager, as he stated earlier, we're trying more to use reoccurring revenue to fund our capital needs rather than going into, uh, fund balance to fund those needs.

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um, based on what the millage rates are

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go up $85,000. Diamond square would revenue would go up $51,000. However,

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you went to rollback rate, there would be a reduction in both CRAs

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This slide, um, ‸ explains, uh, kind of a general definition of what rollback rate is. It allows the governments to, um, some growth in revenue by excluding the new construction, uh, from the calculation and it keeps the taxpayers rates the same as it was in the previous year. So essentially it's a reset where we would get revenue from new construction, but any previous revenue would be remain flat. And as I said, the, the rollback rate is 6.7367. So issues for council is to discuss is that the 6.9532 mills is a 3.2.1% increase over the rollback rate. The increase was needed to fund essential service costs, mandatory or critical capital equipment, salaries and benefits and absorb inflationary costs.

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General fund revenue is $54,995,785. And the general fund budget final budget does include the millage rate of 6.9532

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to balance the budget. ‸ So at this point in time, I would like to announce that the city of Coco is the taxing authority. The rollback rate is 6.7367.

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the rollback rate. And the millage rate to be

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So at this point, Mr. Mayor, I'm handing it back over to you so we can have public comment.

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Okay. Let's do the first one, which will be pertaining to the

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As I stated earlier, thank you very much, ma'am. Close this portion to council open to the public. Please come forward and address any concerns you have. Going once. Going twice. Chair, I'd

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to close this portion of the public and return to the council. Chair,

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would like to make a motion to approve

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And I have a second on the floor. Okay. We'll proceed in this order. I know Deputy ‸ Mayor Weeks had her

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‸ We'll make sure we get a chance to get to you to get your public comments to as well.

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motion staff recommendation. And it

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Thank you, sir. Deputy Mayor Weeks.

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Um,

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I want to start off by saying I believe in a balanced budget. I believe in the having reserves and not spending those down. Uh, but I also. I hear what you're saying about our growth. It is phenomenal. But if we keep raising the taxes, the businesses and the growth won't come because they're going to look at the cities around us that have a lower millage rate than what we have. And that's a concern that I have about not going to a rollback rate for at least one year to give people a break because they've dealt with so much from inflation and we can, we can do our budget just fine this next year.

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our people a break and they need a break. I mean, we cannot just keep up, up, upping and and we want businesses to come. We want more development to come. And and I think that that will show. I know a number of the cities in the area have gone to rollback rate this

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year.

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So I'm still, I mean, I've heard all the things that we need, but I think a one year rollback is not a bad thing for our city. And I don't think it's going to hurt us in the ‸ long term. Yes, they put it out at the rollback rate for years to come. But I think a one year rollback rate to give our folks a break and our businesses a break would be a good thing. And that's what I have to say.

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Thank you, ma'am. Councilman Collins.

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Can you go one more for it? Okay. I just, I just want to leave that there while we deliberate. That's all.

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just want to. I'm good.

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Yeah. I'll look. I'll

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more or less our conversation yesterday. And I just want to say, I really appreciate staff and the excellent job that you've done explaining the budget. And as I said before, it's gotten better each year.

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Thank you.

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And I've heard that from, we have a lot more people watching this than we have in the audience. I've heard that from others as well.

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Thank you.

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But, and as I explained, you know, I've been here seven years. Every year we've raised taxes.

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I too would really like to see us just this one time because we are in such a good position. We heard earlier this year we

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expenses.

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one third in a reserve, which is like 15 million. So we also have the liquidity reserve.

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stable, municipality. Very proud of that. Done a really good job.

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And the example I used the other day, well, you know, I, I think it was the last meeting where we approved the,

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The next day I'm driving down Clear Lake and I see somebody dash across the street from the bus shelter on one side so they can get to the other side, risk their lives so they can get to the other side and catch the bus. And for seven years I've been asking for a bus stop and we can't get it. So there are a lot of things that we haven't been able to do. And I don't think rolling back is going to change that much. But for people, well, for some of the people I know that are relatively recent residents have

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shock when they got that tax bill.

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sticker shock. And then knowing that, you know, we're second in the county for

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not attractive. But mostly why I'd like to see us roll back is because we are in this good position and I want the public to know,

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mean, citizens ‸ know that, that we have empathy for those that are carrying the tax burden. ‸ This is not the only increase they're going to see.

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There are just numerous increases that are going on. I'm not so sure we're going to be able to roll anything back next year. We can't count on that. But what I've seen in the last seven years in terms of our growth and, you know, how the Stantec estimates have come in,

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I feel like we could express that empathy to the taxpayers. And I just like to see that happen. So that's why I would like to see

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I think it's small enough that could easily be absorbed. Thank you for listening.

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ahead.

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as well. I don't get the claim in exemption. So I definitely understand.

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doesn't look like we'll meet the threshold that we need to, to keep services at a high quality for the citizens. If we don't go with this military and, you know, maybe it's something I think we can look at next, uh, next budget season. And when I was going over the road back rate or not raising the military. But at this time, it just looks like this is the option that, you know, we probably should have to take. And that's all I got to say.

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Thank you, sir. As mayor, our future is bright. We have growth.

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disagree. But if you're not growing, you're dying. We want to continue to provide these quality services. We want to continue with the momentum. I myself is the only one that represents all four districts. I have to look at all four districts and, and taking an assessment and make it fair and adequate, um,

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judgment call.

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as we vote on it. I myself fall in a vicarious situation because I have property that is both commercial and residential. So, so when I make my decision, not only am I

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And, and I'm a firm believer in maintaining this momentum that we're doing because I've been there when we had rollback rates. I've ‸ dealt with that. And my thing is, and voted for it, but then I saw the repercussions of it too as well. So my thing is, is that I believe in what we've been doing. We're moving in the right direction. I live on a fixed income. I am a retired school teacher. So I perfectly understand it from all aspects.

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of the most inopportune areas. And that is the diamond square area. You can clearly see the value of that has been enhanced.

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even this downtown area, as we clearly see. So the chair is going to ‸ call the question and we're going to make a vote. I made the motion for 6.9. Um, three, five, two. Let me make sure I said that correctly.

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And it

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Chair's going to call the question. All in favor by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Any nays? Nay. Let the record reflect. Uh,

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Okay. So now we have to deal with that budget. So go forward city, um, staff and directors, city manager, city attorney. We believe in you. We are counting on you because

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and the last one to throw dirt in our face. So I believe in you all. And I believe in the citizens of Cocoa. Sir. I'd like to make a motion on the, approving the budget as well. I'll second it. We have any questions.

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Mr. Mayor, I need to go through the presentation to make sure that I'm complying with the trim statutes on the budget adoption as well.

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Okay. But we can have this motion. It could still stand, but we also have to give the public the opportunity to speak to as well. He's just making the motion to approve.

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‸ You just got to make the announcement, right?

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Right.

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‸ Yes.

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Okay.

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And if I could clarify, um, the millage rate that you all that the vote passed on was 6.9532.

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reiterate.

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Okay. So, so she'll just make the announcement and and if you guys don't need the presentation, we won't unsale the car.

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Okay. But I have to listen to the public. So I have to put it out there. Yes, sir.

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Okay.

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‸ Okay. So, um, I just want to point out that the total budget, um, again, citywide budget.

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bit there, mayor. Take your time. ‸ Take

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your time. No worries.

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So the total budget was the 190. What's that? 194 million, eight hundred and eleven thousand, three hundred and sixty two dollars. Um, and

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the pay plan that's being included in the adopted budget where there was a position that was added, um, title that was added, ‸ not a person, um, to accommodate change in staff. So at this point, sir, you can have a public hearing and then, um, take the final vote for the final budget.

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Thank you kindly ma'am. Do we have any questions for either Mrs. Bowman, the city manager or city attorney or any of the staff members from council?

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I just real quick. Is this new from what this is different than what we had in our package?

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was left on the desk? Or is it the same thing?

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Yeah, I think it's the same minus the ‸ addition is, is that there's a position. Okay. That's being retitled from secretary, executive secretary to administrative assistant.

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you good with that ma'am? Yep. Okay. Let me guess, I'm gonna do, I'm gonna reach into my crystal ball again. We will get a unanimous vote. How about that? Yeah, we have no choice. Thank you, sir.

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That's why, you know,

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proceed for it. Thank you very much. Chair,

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would

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to close this portion to

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open to the public. Please come forward and state your name. Feel free to have a robust, intelligent, articulate conversation with us. Pertaining to the

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2026. Point once. Point twice. Chair, ‸ let me close this portion. And return to the council.

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‸ And by the

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chair,

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we're going to call a question. All in favor

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aye.

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Aye. Aye. Unanimous.

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Yeah, but yeah. He had his light on the phone when he made the motion.

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So I know we made this, we made the vote on the military and also the budget, but I ‸ just wanted to bring this up while I was just thinking about it. You know, we all have things in our district that we may not have accomplished as of yet, but I believe that's our ‸ jobs to fight for those particular things, ‸ which also means we must make motions on those particular items.

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that need to be done in District 1. Some people argue that there's too many things being done in District 1. Well, that's great for our district, but I believe that, no, we ‸ fight as hard as we can in the districts to ‸ get whatever that is to be accomplished.

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But the majority of the citizens that I ‸ run across, millage rate is not a discussion. What

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discussion is, the things that are tangible, the things that they can touch, feel, see. And when they see progression, it's amazing how those who may lack in income don't mind paying a little bit more for the things that they can benefit from, which could be paving. I think we went up from $300,000 to $500,000. Stormwater being in their neighborhoods. Now you go certain parts of my district used to flood all the time. But now because of Public Works and because of our budget, we're able to alleviate a lot of those problems that people have with waters going inside their homes on Lucas Avenue. ‸ And so it was just ‸ on my head to say that. I know it's after the budget, I mean after the vote, but everyone in ‸ our districts are not absolutely pissed off about the millage rate. It's not every, now it may be some, absolutely. There's some that's going to feel it.

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But ‸ if I can see things in my community that I feel is beneficial for me and my family, ‸ I'm okay with paying a little bit more.

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‸ But

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if a lot of people in our community see it, feel it, touch

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I just haven't. And that's just ‸ kind of

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my perspective on it.

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Yes, sir. And just ‸ to clarify and to be clear, Mr. Mayor, the vote was on approving resolution 2025-063 adopting the fiscal year 2026 final ‸ budget and

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and ending.

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Correct.

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Okay. Any other questions?

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to respond to that saying my district. All I hear about is high taxes and when are they going to get a break?

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city. So.

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That's a woman calls.

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Yeah, I just want to respond to because every year I've asked for the ‸ bus stop, ‸ the shelter, and it's not for not asking. Okay.

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on and how we're improving the city. In District 4, for example, the neighborhood I live in, the landscaping was taken out to make it more low maintenance. The park, the landscaping was taken out to make it more low maintenance. I'm very grateful that we continue to operate the museum and that that's a successful community amenity.

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even in the paving, and I know that we have a system for determining what roads are paved. But I swear I started to ride down those roads.

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be paved and the other wouldn't. I

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think, you

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know, this year I think it was one or two roads in District 4. Last year was one or two.

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the visibility does not exist with the improvements we've made, at least in District 4. Not to the degree that you see it in District 1, where we put in the satellite police station. You know, we've made all the improvements, state of the art, Provost Park. We've got the Jolie Smith Center that's opened. There are a number of very visible, and we've done a lot of additional paving work there. So, they're just, they're visible improvements. And it needed it. I'm glad we've done it. But you just need to know, you need to put yourself in somebody else's shoes. And it's not, the improvements aren't necessarily seen as much if you live in the other part of the city. That's my only point.

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point taken on that. But at the same time, that's our job, right? I think, I remember two years ago,

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I did not agree with the ‸ plan that was given to us. And ‸ I was proactive. And I didn't necessarily care what a consultant said about that particular street. I rode down it, and my tire almost came off. So,

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But I just, I think sometimes, and

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But it's not, when I say these things, I'm not saying that another council member is not working hard as they can to get things done. I'm not saying that. And I know sometimes it may seem that way. But we have to make those motions, and we have to push the envelope, even if it's a no vote, right? It's a vote. It's a ‸ motion for those particular items that we see fit, that our community is begging for in our cities. That's our ‸ job. And if we fight as hard as we can, and we make those motions, ‸ you can go back to that community and say, hey, look, I did everything I possibly could to get this particular thing done. ‸ I didn't ask. I demanded that we did it,

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the council did not agree with me. And it happens. It happens a lot. But I just, again, my point was not to ‸ dig at anybody. It just was the point of, I just, because every district is different. Every

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has, I think like ‸ Deputy Mayor of Weeks, for example, have a lot of retirees in ‸ that particular district ‸ that has a different feel, maybe than the district one that has so many different diverse people in it, it may be a totally different mindset. And I think that's what make our single member districts so valuable, I believe, because each one of us are bringing a different perspective and a different mindset to the table. So, let

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me say it this way.

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an elected official, but live in this city right now from day one, from segregated days to where we are today. And

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The only time district one would ever get any improvement or enhancements, it came from the federal dollars. It did not come from my general revenue. So,

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I've seen those growing pains. I'm the only one

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not to defame anyone, but I lived it. I'm walking the walk. I am living proof.

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love all your children,

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but equally. And I get it. But the other three districts had their higher revenue, and a lot of the deeds and progress went to that area where district one was neglected and rejected. Once upon a time, they're saying downtown area until we started growth. That young man has lived that part tour as well over there. So, we've seen the changes. And it's okay to voice your differences, but the point that I'm saying, we're still team Coco. ‸ Okay. So, once you understand that philosophy,

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I've been to a funeral where people said,

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direction. I don't mind paying some more taxes. And this was an ultra conservative individual. At a funeral. I've been to park dedications. In both District 3, 4, 2, and 1. Where people said, hey, I see a difference. I want to make the difference. And if you continue to move forward, we will invest in the city.

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It is still the same millage rate. Yes. But the value of our city has grown. And there again, if you don't grow, you're going to die. That's biblical. Go to the Bible. You can't deny or reject it. So, hey, ladies and gentlemen, it's some growing pains. But in the end, it's going to be well worth it. But guess what? District 3 is going to be our future.

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Yes, it is.

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So, you can get the nostalgic look in the District 1 area versus District 3 and even parts of District 4. When that growth comes through the bright line,

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there now.

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We see the growth and the development. So, that area will get that reward. Just be patient. Patience is a virtue. And we may not like it always, but the reality of it is, ladies and gentlemen, we are reaping the dividends from our labor. And again, like I alluded to you previously, I've been on both sides of the ‸ track with the rollback rate. And we did suffer. Yes, we did. But it is also applicable to me when I vote. And again, I'll put my eye of commercial and residential as my property base.

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So, let that soak in for a little bit. And it's in the Diamond Square area. So, I'm thrilled with it, ladies and gentlemen. We voted that that has been cast. We're going to move forward. And they will, you know, if they want to have a conversation with Michael,

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definitely not hard to find me. I'm on Blake Avenue. Amen? Amen. All right. Let's move forward. Together. Together. All right. What third and final, second and final approval of the

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adopting the proposed revisions to the solid waste contract franchise with Waste Management Inc. of Florida to provide residential and commercial solid waste services within the incorporated city

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the mayor, city manager, and city attorney to execute all documentation needed to implement the proposed contract revision 2025-885.

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said siri. Okay.

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siri. All

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An ordinance of the city council of the city of Cocoa, Florida, approving an amended and restated solid waste franchise agreement between the city of Cocoa and Waste Management of Florida Inc.

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as provided by section 9-37 of the city of Cocoa Code of Ordinances, providing for annual increases in service charges equal to the consumer price index for garbage and trash, extending

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prior inconsistent ordinances and resolutions, incorporation into the code, severability, and an effective date.

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And so I'm here if you have any ‸ questions.

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Do we have any questions for Mrs. Singer?

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‸ Mr. WM, would you like to give us some word of encouragement, sir? If you like, I'm just giving you an option. If not, sir. Yes, sir.

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All right.

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Mr. Mayor, council, thank you all so much for your support. We're going to get right to work. We're continuously working with staff, working diligently to roll this out and make sure that we effectively communicate with the residents. So appreciate you all for not rolling back on your vote on this particular item.

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Thank you, sir.

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Sure,

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close this portion to council over to the public. Please come forward, state your name for us. You have 180 seconds to expound

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I'm going to move to approve.

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I'll second it now. We have a motion on the floor by Deputy Mayor Weeks and a second by the chair to approve the second and final reading or second reading of ordinance number 09-2025.

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All in favor, say aye. Aye. Any nays?

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unanimously. Thank you very much.

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Education, education, education. And thank you for the great phone calls. I've heard positive reviews. But we must continue

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staff, ‸ city manager, ‸ directors, and esquire that we keep that line of communication and education. Knowledge is power. There's no saturation point to education. All right, chair entertains a motion to adjourn. Move to adjourn. We have a motion on the floor by Deputy Mayor Weeks. Second. Chair's going. Yeah, it was unanimous.

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was unanimous. Chair, all in favor, saying aye.

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Go in peace.

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