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Attendance (the roll call)
Listed present when the roll was taken: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss
(Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines.)
Absences: the minutes print an “ABSENT” heading with no names under it.
Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Kristin Eick (City Attorney), Stockton Whitten (City Manager), Monica Arsenault (City Clerk), Abigail Morgan (Public Works Director), Rebecca Bowman (Finance Director), Charlene Neuterman (Community Services Director), Roderick Moore (Deputy Fire Chief), Evander Collier IV (Police Chief), Katie Ennis (Utilities Director), Samantha Senger (Communications and Economic Development Director), Lorne Stinnett (HR Director), Mitch Lawyer (Interim Chief Technology Officer), Dalyn Sims (Helpdesk Support Tech)
Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)
Adopted actions (7)
1. Agenda: Regular Meeting of November 18, 2025. (2025-805) — to approve the agenda as written (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 2
2. Minutes: Second Budget Hearing of September 16, 2025. (2025-806) — to approve the minutes for the September 16, 2025 24 Budget Hearing of the City Council as written (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 2
to approve the Consent agenda (moved by Lavander Hearn, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 4
to approve Ordinance 05-2025 on Second and Final Reading, for discussion (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 4; the vote on p. 5
1. Approve Resolution 2025-088, amending the Building Permit fees for the City of Cocoa with an effective date of January 1, 2026. (2025-105 — to approve Resolution 2025-088, with an effective date of January 1, 2026 (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 6
2. Adamson Creek Roadway and Sidewalk Ownership Discussion. (2025-1071) — to deny ownership and maintenance of the private roads and sidewalks within Phases 1B, 1C, and 2 of the subdivision (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 3-1; ayes: Mike Blake, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn; nays: Lorraine Koss — the City's minutes, p. 8
to adjourn the Regular meeting of November 18, 2025 (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 9
Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)
$250,000 — Council: Consent agenda item 1, approved with the Consent agenda — authorized up to (a spending limit, not an amount spent). “Approve a Piggyback Contract Agreement with Connect Consulting, Inc. (CCl) of High Springs, Florida, utilizing the City of Palm Coast Contract No. RFSQ-SWE-25-15, for the provision of Professional Hydrogeological Services associated with Project No. WS1106, in an amount not to exceed $250,000 for Fiscal Year 2026.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (2250_11_18_2025.pdf, p. 4); fiscal period not recorded)
$1,494,500 — Council: Consent agenda item 2, approved with the Consent agenda. “Approve a resolution amending the Fiscal Year 2026 (FY26) Budget, Budget Adjustment Form (BAF) #2026-004-A to allocate 50% match funding for $1,494,500 for the Florida Inland Navigation District (FIND) Grant Award BV-CO-25-165, and BAF #2026-004-IFT for $1,494,500 from the Cocoa Community Redevelopment Agency (CRA) to the City’s Capital Projects Account.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (2250_11_18_2025.pdf, p. 4); fiscal period not recorded)
$164,600 — Council: Consent agenda item 2, approved with the Consent agenda — authorized up to (a spending limit, not an amount spent). “Furthermore, Approve Task Order #2026-14 with Mead & Hunt, based on continuing service agreement Q-23-01-COC-C1, for bidding and construction services related to the project, in an amount not to exceed $164,600.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (2250_11_18_2025.pdf, p. 4); fiscal period not recorded)
$268,481.00 — Council: Consent agenda item 3, approved with the Consent agenda — authorized up to (a spending limit, not an amount spent). “The purchase includes two (2) 10-ton split systems with coil coatings for Building 1 (Filter Gallery), two (2) chilled water air handling units for Building 8 (Ozone), and one (1) 4- ton rooftop unit with coil coatings for Building 11 (Clearwell), in an amount not to exceed $268,481.00.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (2250_11_18_2025.pdf, p. 4); fiscal period not recorded)
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Thanks for waking up this morning. Thank you for our light, that the strength continue to bless us as community leaders, educators, and our professionals. I appreciate you for taking care of us as we travel throughout the days.
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I've got Mr. George there, he was ‸ one of their education, and of course, Mr. Gill is there. And who's this teenager in the front seat, ma'am? This is also known as Carter's
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Proceeding on to Item Number 2-1, Agenda Regular Meeting Held November the 18th, 2025. What are the wishes of Council? Move to approve. We have a motion on
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right. Quite all right. Yeah, you have many hats. I do. ‸ And I'm looking for a second. If not, chair will second. For the minutes to be approved. All in favor saying aye. Aye. Any nays?
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Here we want to say thank you, Mrs. Cole. I will surrender the floor so you can tell me what you would like for us to do, ma'am. And I want to say thank you very much.
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Okay, well I haven't reached 30 yet. But I do want to say thank you very much for all the support that the City of Cocoa always provides us. And of course you want to, as you said, wish everyone an early Thanksgiving. And just, we just want to say we're here just to show you what we can do and show you our appreciation.
have a very strict guidelines in terms of ‸ what they have to adhere to in terms of behavior and academics and everything else. And so, they have met the cut so far. We're hoping to keep them all, at least by our Christmas break. So,
are hopefully going to bring home that, hopefully, the trophy again this year for the Christmas parade. And so, that is just what we go for every year.
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Okay, well for us it's more of a unity thing because we more or less are able to get our girls, give them a focus and it also helps them behavior wise and academic wise, it gives them a goal that they have to maintain to be able to stay Part of ‸ our group and so I think it also just promotes unity in general because we also go to the step competitions, we get to watch them, we don't have a cheerleading group so we are there whenever we have our games, we're there to cheer our teams on and so it's just ‸ camaraderie between our school itself and so most mostly everyone knows the steppers when they see us at the school so it's just ‸ one of those things that's only for our middle schools ‸ only do six through eight I can't do the little ones I'm not there yet I can't I can't physically I just can't I can't
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about six years or ‸ so. So we've been around for a while. We get a new crop just about every year. I think this year I only have maybe one and a half because she left us and came back.
So we don't have a whole lot that we're, you know, that we keep coming. We do have some high schoolers that do join us from time to time and kind of stick it out with us as long as their, you know, grades come first.
their school. So, but it's something that seems to be catching. We haven't got to a point where they've been able to carry it on to their high schools.
so since it's not really well known amongst the younger generation, they don't really know a whole lot about it. But we do try to keep them in tune to a lot of that. I know when we go to shows and stuff, I try to bring them back videos of what I saw. And we try and take a few of them with us so they can actually see it in action because we're still at the very tip of the iceberg. We're not where I want us to be at, but we're still really young. So.
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Okay. For our vice president, we have Hope Rainey. For our treasurer, we have our Elijah Hickson. And then for secretary, we have our stepper here, Chloe Thompson.
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Okay. Proceeding on to item number four, delegations. Please, if you would like to say something, you must submit a card. They're located in the foyer area. You need to submit a card so that if you want to expound on anything city-related, please feel free.
do we have any cards down there? I have no more cards at this time. Okay. Yes, ma'am. Thank you very much. This concludes this portion of awards and presentations and also delegations. Proceeding forward.
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But those, that's it? Ma'am, teamwork is dream work. And if I want to get it right the first time, I better listen to it. All right. Seeing no cards, under delegations, we will proceed forward to consent agenda item. What are the wishes of council?
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and a second by deputy mayor, Weeks. Chair's going to call the question all in favor by saying aye. Aye. Any nays? Ayes have it unanimously. Proceeding on to public ‸ hearing. Okay. For item number one under public hearing, the city of Cocoa evaluation and appraisal report, better known as
by title. Yes, ma'am. Ordinance number 05-2025, an ordinance of the city council of the city of Cocoa, Brevard County, Florida, setting forth amendments to the city of Cocoa comprehensive plan based on the City's evaluation and appraisal of the Comprehensive Plan pursuant to
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repeal of prior inconsistent ordinances and resolutions, incorporation into the Comprehensive Plan, legal status of the Comprehensive Plan amendment, severability, and an effective date. Thank you, mayor.
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Thank you. Good evening. Alexis Crespo. I'm planning consultant with RBI. as was introduced, um, this is your comprehensive plan update also called your ear based amendments. Um, This is coming back to you for a second time after having been reviewed by state agencies. I have a brief presentation to walk you through that. If it would be the pleasure of the council.
this is a mandatory update to your comprehensive plan. The state statute says you should evaluate your comprehensive plan every seven years and evaluate if the plan is still consistent with state law. As we've been experiencing here in Florida, the state law is ever changing. A lot of preemptions coming out of Tallahassee. And so we did find when reviewing your plan that there were changes that needed to be made to be consistent and compliant with your, with the state law as it's changed since your last major update in 2019. So we, um, prepared amendments really strictly conforming to updates needed to conform with state law. We did not go outside of that scope. Um, as you may have heard, there's
that, um, prevents local governments impacted by certain hurricanes from, um, enacting more restrictive standards into their codes and comprehensive plans. So we've seen, um,
of just mandatory state law changes. And they were struck down by the state and challenged by the state. So we didn't want to wander into that unknown territory. We want to see that play out.
So we'll see that play out. But in the meantime, just get you, uh, ‸ legal comprehensive plan that addresses the state legislative changes. That was our, our goal. Um, we conducted, um, we
and then presented this to you in August. And this is the last step in that process. So we hope you do adopt this tonight. We would send it up to Tallahassee and just document with them that these amendments were properly adopted by, uh, the city. And then we are done our process and we can rest easy for seven years or whenever you want to make city initiated amendments in the future, um, at your leisure. So summarizing those just briefly, we, we did touch every element for the most part. Um, just making again, slight tweaks here and there and feature land use element. We addressed floating solar facilities as being a permitted land use in all categories. We also added language, um, based on state preemption that you can't, um, have residential design standards for single family and two family dwelling types. You can still have design standards for your multifamily buildings and commercial and also for a single and two family within CRA and redevelopment districts. But just needed to add, add some language, just clarifying state law there.
of your public works director, address live local act, and just got some of rid of some old dates in your housing element. The sanitary sewer element was where we probably made the most changes. There's been a state law, um, about septic conversion to get those, um, larger subdivisions on septic tanks onto centralized water and sewer, or sewer specifically.
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levels of service. ‸ Really the fact that people are demanding less potable water due to energy efficient fixtures. Um, then we made some changes to your environmental based elements, including your groundwater element to tie in that septic conversion topic, uh, reference to dates and your coastal management element. And then also in your conservation element as well, we referenced your, uh, latest water supply work plan as required by the state. Then lastly,
developer ‸ prop shares or proportionate fair share payments. Just outlining that there is a process. If a school is over capacity for a developer to pay and make capacity available and, and what the school district has to do in exchange for that payment. And then the capital improvements element just up carried through those level of service updates throughout the plan. And we had to reference your latest and greatest capital improvement element, which is your 2026 to 2030, uh, improvement plan that you approved, ‸ but the budget. Oh, ‸ yes. And then in terms of map amendments, we, um, needed to update the maps and this is your, um, city's GIS department that did a great job with this. Um, to update the boundary on all the maps
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certain areas into the city, updated data from the latest available sources on a variety of maps. And then we also, there was just a lot of unnecessary maps that created the need for updates and to help with cost savings to the city and just streamline the plan. We just pulled any maps that would be subject to frequent change out of your comprehensive plan.
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firm has done several of these updates and FDEP usually wants to tweak those septic policies. Um, but they actually had no comments on this one. So again, your utility department doing a great job. Uh,
Um, they wanted the year 2050 printed onto the future land use map to make it clear. This was the future land use plan for the city through our planning horizon of 2050. They also wanted to do that for the roadway level of service map. And
rather. And we needed to update it to the 2026 through 2030 plan to be consistent with state law. So we, um, you guys had a nice schedule that was done as part of your budgeting process. So we just attached that to this latest version, um, to be transmitted to the state or adopted. So with that, um, I'm happy to answer any questions about the state review process. Um, we do recommend you adopt these amendments and this will again, make your comprehensive plan legal and consistent with state law. And, um, we just thank you for letting us help you out in this process.
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Uh, more of a question for staff. Would we be able to get a copy, not of this CIP, the capital improvement program, but the comprehensive plan? I've had one since, I came on console and I'd requested it and it's been enormously helpful in looking up things. And as a reference with the maps, so if we could, are we able to get that?
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have it unanimously. Great job. Um, let's give you a round of applause there. Mr. Thank you. Thank you. We're moving forward. Next item under city business,
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January the 1st, 2026. Um, this was, um, part of our previous action dating back to August 23rd of 2022, the same related issue of the resolution. And then I would like to turn it over to. Mrs.
Noteman. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. ‸ As you noted, the last time that the city had modified its building permit fee schedule was in 2022. And at that time we had modified it to stay in line with what the other cities
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the counties were charging for fees. Uh, in addition to the changes of the Florida building code and plans review changes that we had. So in 2021, as you all know, we, we converted to our citizen serve online building permitting platform, which, uh, simplifies the process for the applicant. Um, but we do still have all of the review processes in place for staff and all of the consultants that have to review in order to improve approve a permit.
to stay consistent with what, uh, the county and the cities are doing around us. And also to capture fees that are charged by consultants for plans review and, and documents and all of the revisions that we have to, to do for permits. So, uh, on your screen is the fee changes that are going to be effective. Uh, January 1st of 2026. Uh, I will note that the base fee schedule is not changing for both residential and commercial permits. Those are still staying at $75 as the base rate for a residential permit fee and $100 for a commercial permit fee all charged by valuation, which is consistent with what all the other cities and the counties are doing, uh, by valuation. So the larger the project, the larger the permit fee is.
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fees. Uh, ‸ for larger projects, a lot of the con, uh, contractors and developers are using what they call private provider plans, review and inspections. ‸ And they hire a private provider to do their plans review and to do their inspections. But what we have to do on our end is the building official does have to review and approve the private, private provider submittals of the plans and inspection reports to ensure that they are complying with Florida building code standards to ensure that the engineers that are signing it are licensed and certified to, to do that, uh, review and to do those inspections. So we do have to pay our building official
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inspections. I will note that for the larger projects that are using those private providers for plans, review and inspections, the per Florida statute,
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during that process. A floodplain review is a $150 charge and it's an increase from $75. We actually use an outside, uh, consultant who has to do those, uh, floodplain reviews,
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which is consistent with what a lot of the other agencies are doing. And, and that's to capture, uh, when a contractor has to change the plans in order to either meet Florida building code, or because there's been a change in the scope on the project, uh,
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that. And that again is to, uh, put accountability back on the con contractors to, uh, get the inspections scheduled. It, it takes time and it costs our staff time to go out and do those inspections. And when we have multiple failed inspections, uh, that backs up the inspection process because we have to continually go back and do those inspections on those properties. And so we're, we're adding those extra fees in order to, uh, capture that, uh, cost. And those are again, consistent with the other agencies. And the last one is the change of contractor fee, which
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So we do have to go in and review all of their licenses. We do have to do all that process. So we do charge a fee for that process. So initially we're not on the ‸ upfront charges for the permits. We're not changing those fees.
costs because we're using outside providers or to just be consistent with the other agencies. Uh, a lot of the, the simplified, uh, building permits, uh, you know, we're there. There's a lot of changes with the Florida statutes on what we can and can't do on building permits and what, you know, they're trying to do a lot of more simplified permits. They started that with fire permits recently where you have only a matter of days that you have to, uh, approve a permit for fire permits. And so we have to expedite, we have to move quicker to get a lot of that done. And we anticipate over the next couple of years that those expedited permits may fall into the residential and commercial side of the permitting. And,
to be able to, uh, issue permits in a much quicker manner. Currently right now we're issuing permits in about a seven to 10 day, which is pretty decent, uh, for what we're doing with seven to 800 permits a year. And, and so, uh, we're fairly consistent with our permitting. Uh, but I do want to show you, it was in your agenda packet. This is a comparison to, uh, the different cities in Brevard County, uh, of how they, they do their applications. Some of them are very high. We did not want to go as high as some of the other, uh, applications. Uh, they do a lot of it based on valuations and, and have a percentage and it, it can mat, it can be almost double what Coco's permit fees are in some cases. So we wanted to stay consistent with how we were doing things. Um, for instance, I'll say like Titusville, if they ‸ change a contractor, they actually have to get a new permit, which is a new cost. So,
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So we're trying to, you know, be fair to the contractors, be fair to the residents and, and work with them on trying to get those, you know, keep those fees as consistent as we can for, uh, the developers and
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newer ones coming in when would preserve preliminary plat pud 2024 is private but I'm open for understanding but it is a private road and the question that I'm gonna ask is cost how do we pay for it deputy mayor weeks I'm the floor is
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I'm allowed to participate in the discussion but I will recuse myself from the voting part of it so that's what the attorney recommended so that's what I wanted to let everybody know
Susan Cottrell. Thank you, Mayor Blake, council members, for allowing me to speak. I am the president of Adamson Creek Homeowners Association. And we are petitioning for you to consider our unique situation, where
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and phases 1B, 1C, and 2 are private streets. We have 433 homes. Phase one homes are a little less than half, are considered city Cocoa roads, while the other three phases are considered private, putting the cost of maintaining these sidewalks and roads on all
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not generate any property tax revenue, so the city has not annexed them. Yet District 3, where Adamson Creek is located, provides nearly 2 million in yearly property tax revenue. And I will talk about that later. That is a different number that you would see budgeted, and I'll explain why. We are not a gated community. Phase one was developed by four developers. in 2018 d.r horton purchased the balance of adamson creek as the new developer it was not an annexation It was a continuation of the plan for building new homes in Adamson Creek, which
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okay what is land annexation? This just is a slide that explains why a con why would a county, um why would a city want to annex? And it has to do with taxes. It's money. And I put, it's it's for taxes, it's not rocket science, you follow the money. Adamson Creek was originally a part of Brevard County, but annexed to benefit the city of
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Mentions the boundary. It mentions the tax base and the property revenue. So there's documentation to show that Adamson Creek was annexed for tax revenue.
This is the one that just shows the net increase that's projected 800 000 with the new taxes. To show that there's money available. Okay. This is what I talked to you about before. How it was the um lisa cullen put the tax from the tax collector's office put down it was 1.649 um million dollars for tax revenue. But what was added in the budget were
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Yet we don't all benefit from it. For half of our community, it's taxation without benefits. We are only asking for a little over two miles of roads to be additionally covered. It can simply be done by a quick claim deed. And like I said before,
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streets and sidewalks. What you did was split a neighborhood when the whole original community was annexed for its taxes. We should all receive the benefits of our taxes paid to cover our sidewalks and roads. I want to point out our taxes are the ‸ same for
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This taxation is not fair and it is not just. I want to point out also our roads are new. So the city will be collecting taxes for 20 years probably before they start to do anything to maintain our roads. Our tax revenue should go to our community first before helping the other 61 percent that don't contribute. This is equitable and just again we are only asking for approximately two miles of roads to be made Cocoa roads. and I also want to point out there are other developments in Cocoa North such as Coventry and London all have city
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are not gated. They do not have through streets. Adamson Creek is also not gated and does not have through streets. ‸ But there's the newest development
and Lakeside Palms was also a dr Horton development, but they got their roads covered and we didn't. okay but also I'll point out too Fern Meadows where some of the city council staff live all have Cocoa roads. They're not private. I want to point out our roads are in good condition the private roads are new and should be good for at least 20 years so our tax revenue going to
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Creek responsible for their roads by making them private was a financial burden on all homeowners not just by all paying the same taxes but all paying the same HOA dues to cover the private roads. This is basically double taxing every
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school bus problem. We have right now the school buses can only go on the pro the public roads and we have a dangerous intersection a three-way intersection with three stop signs that people keep going into that. That's the only place
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public we we would have two entrances they could come in there's a route. I talked with someone at the Transportation Department yesterday and they verified that's why they don't come in the second entrance because it's a private road. And
be getting off a bus and she was killed in Georgia. So this I don't want this to happen that would be fiscally irresponsible for our community. So that's another reason for safety to have all our roads made public roads. Finally, I'll end with this. It's only two miles of roads we are asking to be made Cocoa roads.
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Creek to begin with. And you are getting two million dollars in tax revenue yearly. ‸ We believe we deserve to have all our roads make Cocoa roads. Thank you for listening. And if you can vote soon we would appreciate that. And I know there's another person that has to speak. um Are there anybody else here besides I have
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So, and when you started your HOA um payments, what what what was the responsibility um when you when you pay the monthly dues? ‸ what What's covered in those dues? Well,
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we had to be responsible to at least put that in there. That's why we're petitioning you. And it's just going to keep climbing because, you know, the roads cost. And I will say that I did check with a friend of mine that's a paver. And he told me the costs, if we were just going to do one layer, one inch thick, and for two miles, it would cost between
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in my in my area. um The yellow. And the large one, I would say that your analysis was correct, that it would cost a lot for us to incorporate them, to annex them. But
roads were going to be public. And I'm sure people were looking to buy their homes in there because I know some others that didn't realize until after they bought their homes that now we're responsible for the roads and the sections they bought into.
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also has the development that is close to my district in my neighborhood, of the river walk And that, again, those are private roads. I guess they're private because there is, you don't go through that neighborhood to get anywhere else. Is that what kind of defines it?
Well, that could be one of the reasons. I mean, i mean it was, you know, these are these are negotiated matters there. And so, again, as the mayor um went over in the last 17, 18 years, ‸ have been 10 subdivisions. Only two of them have uh public roads there.
was platted in phases. And so there is no phase 1A. Everything governs what comes in the subsequent ‸ phases because you don't even know if those are going to happen. And so, and so again,
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is uh the the uh the roads, um the uh the sidewalks, uh the the storm water um all of those things that actually, uh ‸ again, the lots also. And so, and so again again, because remember, a platted subdivision is is actually a recorded uh legal document there. And so
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and then the next phase didn't come until 2019. So so there is no, um you know, again, they they're they're independent of each other. I know they're in the same subdivision, but the the
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Well, and of course that would depend on the amount of traffic that a road is getting. Because, I mean, there are roads in this neighborhood that, that, or in my neighborhood, they get very little traffic, whereas others get a lot of traffic and are therefore more vulnerable. So, it would be based on the the road and the traffic and going through. Okay, great. Thank you. That's, thank you.
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Roads. So, to me, it's just going back to the original intent. And we've got the articles that were printed that agree with that. So I just wanted to point that out. That's all.
Yeah, Mr. Mayor, I'm not agreeing with what was said in the article. What was said in the article was said in the article. And so the vision may have been for that. But but again, the platting, which is a legal document, again, the four phases are independent of each other. And
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so um so when we have these roads in perpetual deterioration we have to perform full depth reclamation on certain roadway stretches so um full depth reclamation or FDR is not a repair process but a rehabilitation process process it is very costly and impacts our
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lot of ‸ areas do in the county have been been annexed in because of the services we provide now my next question is um and I'm just stating the fact when it was time for us to vote for a millage rate out of the five three voted for the current rate where two others voted for a rollback rate now you're asking me to do something when we don't have the money but you constantly want to reduce. So how can I pay for something when I do not have the proper funding, but
um We clearly see when we do maintain and aa millage rate, we see the reduction in crime. We see the increase of services. We see the self-esteem of the city of
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clearly beyond a shadow of a doubt. So, so, but if I set a precedent for one, I have to set a precedent for the others. And I'm looking at eight others that um just even recently um are on private roads. So where can I get the money and also provide a service for them when there's others who do not uh have public roads? And when
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So, so I'm trying to be fair and equitable, ma'am. But if I do it for one, it's just like loving kids. I have to do it for the, the other eight that's on this documentation here. And that's my problem. ‸ And, and Ii get it, ma'am. I understand it to the fullest. Trust me, I do. I get it. But I'm just saying ‸ if, if, if my budget is limited and even my finances in reference of road millage, uh will not accommodate that, then I have concerns. And, and, ‸ my question is, I know your, your, your,homeowners uh fee, whatever HOA has increased, uh probably doubled, tripled already. And, and, and, ‸ that's my question. you You, you want me to be responsible for that so that if, then I would assume if we were to take the roads, or be
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and I will say this, when I purchased in there, there was no dr Horton. I owned my home eight and a half years. There was no dr Horton. We were city streets. And those of us who purchased in phase one, all, it was all city streets. And our HOA was based on that. Then dr Horton bought out the other three and did their deal, which, so those of us in phase one assumed all the streets were going to be
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streets. Only then we found out after that they were not, that they had made them private. um so if you go back to the original plat back in 2005, I know you say they were planted separately, but
of what Adamson Creek was supposed to be. ‸ All the phases with all the amenities. There was supposed to be a soccer field. There was supposed to be, um uh picnic grounds. There was all kinds of things that were supposed to be in Adamson Creek. And they also had where all the lots were supposed to be. And that was the what they were selling people on of what was to come and it had all the lots uh unfortunately
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period and they deserve to have what was originally put out there the dream thatof Adamson Creek to have city streets period I know I hear what you're saying about what you do for one you have to do for others
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love living here and they're paying their taxes and our homes sell close to half a million now so our property taxes what we're paying now is only going to go up you're going to keep getting money from us we are adding hugely to the budget that's all I have
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to stand up here because of the discussion that was going on um so there's actually a key uh document that's missing in this discussion so in order to have a plat especially these bigger neighborhoods you have to have a PUD and so I'll go kind of back so what is a PUD
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it says the road right-of-ways will be dedicated to the public public via recorded plot. So when the city accepted the neighborhood, the community, as a whole, not
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B, C, as a whole, all the all the all of them are in here, that's what we're supposed to be followed. So, and when you dive into the rest of this, there's a lot of other things that the neighborhood was sold on, and that really I would request that council tries to do an audit on dr Horton as a whole, because
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and the community a better place that didn't happen are as follows. A full tennis court, a basketball court, paved walking trails throughout and around thethe natural
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We do have a pool, but the size was drastically reduced and is too small for the neighborhood. And then this is the one that really upsets me the most. There was supposed to be a
by the pool that would have prohibited the three sexual offenders from recently moving into the neighborhood. That's a really upsetting thing, that the point neighborhood was planned, you know, to protect the community and to provide those resources, and dr Horton got away with not doing it. And the benefit to them is the cost savings when it goes to
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that the staff city staff and the council at that time had did something deceiving, uh, in regards to this project. Uh, if there's a dispute, at least from my point of view, it seems like maybe it would be with D.R. Horton, the builder. Um, have you all considered a class, uh, a class action lawsuit against D.R. Horton, maybe, uh, pursuing legal means towards the builder? Yeah.
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it seems like you guys had a set of deliverables that weren't delivered, but I don't think that's on the city's behalf. It seems like that would have been from the builder. Maybe. Am I
Yeah. My biggest fear, uh, or biggest worry is, uh, if this was approved, we have a number of, uh, subdivisions, um, who maybe pay more in taxes. I hear that's a big argument. Um, there's a couple of subdivisions out there. Um, who's to say that they won't come in here demanding the same thing, uh, since we would have set precedents at that time.
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Yeah, I'm probably gonna ‸ need some help from, uh, Kristen from this there. ‸ But what I see are the engineering plans and not the plat. And so, and so I see an engineering, engineering plans that were submitted by the engineering firm of the developer, but I don't see the recorded plats. Again, that's different than a recorded plat. They may be stamped, but not recorded. And they're not recorded against the plat. And so, so Kristen can correct me if I've misstated any of that, but, but again,
and so again, sir, yes, you have something that has an engineer's signature and seal on it, but you don't have a recorded plat for the entire subdivision and all phases of the subdivision.
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so the 2 million may be, um, the total tax revenue, which includes county and city there. But again, not sure. And this is my first time seeing our presentation. I'm not sure
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and I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, uh, debating or doubting what was presented by the developer. I can tell you what ultimately was recorded in the public records as, as the plat.
primarily private. I, I don't have an explanation. I don't think any staff was here in 2018 when, um, Lakeside Palms East was, uh, was, um, was ‸ platted and those roads are, are public there. So that's an anomaly, uh, on the listing of roads there. And again, um, with all due respect, um, it was made mention that, uh, staff lives in
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the roads, but I recall, ‸ and I guess it was D.R. Horton at that point coming to us with eliminating the basketball court in exchange for, I think, exercise equipment. And I just remember thinking how bad that was, but how the sense that was early on, no
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I'm saying that I bring that up only because all of those changes would have had to go through city staff, right? If they have presented a PUD that has, whether it be the basketball court or the, the tot park, would have had to
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said those things, but again, in terms of how it actually happened, it was platted in phases and each phase sort of, uh, was independent of the other there. And so, and so again, yes, that would have been presented to staff that ultimately would have been
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Okay. Okay. But the fact that it was presented and platted in at different times, I mean this, because my big fear here again, as everyone else has expressed is, you know, we have windward preserve, um, you know, we specifically took that on because we knew they ‸ were going to handle a lot of the infrastructure costs. Right.
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being handled at one time. Um, I mean, I'm really interested in knowing what the expenses, what would this cost? Um, so, I mean, that would be an option for us, right? To request some analysis of what the expenses, what expenses would be
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can probably say the same thing that, uh, Abby said. And so currently for the annual, um, maintenance of roads, um, you, you, the, the council budgets, uh, half a million dollars and she is able to repair 3% of the roads. So 3% of the 80 miles of roads she's able to get to. Um, and that's just a simple milling and repaving. Um, and so, so over the lifetime of a road,
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And so, and so again, it is, um, you know, unmet needs right now with your current inventory. And certainly, um, exacerbated by an additional, um, 1.5 miles, I think is, is the remainder of
phase two. And so if you never get to 58% of the roads, you have what we had last year where you have at that point in time, every so often, you're gonna ‸ have to, what's it called,
And so to rehabilitate, um, range road 1.2, uh, miles last year cost us $655,000. And so you have these big spikes because you're never able to properly maintain the roads there. And so every so often you have the big spikes there. And so again, it, I'm not being facetious. It's not, it's not going to cost you, you know, you're not going to get to the roads, um, certainly by adding them on.
Okay. And I just want to say again, all roads are not created equal. Um, the attention they need is based on the vehicles that pass over that road. Um, in the case of range roads, you have a lot of trucks coming, you have the school buses coming versus, you know, another neighborhood road that has little of that traffic. So, um, I mean, I've lived in three different metropolitan areas and I'll have to say that, uh,
And one of those, uh, cities I lived in was, was really pretty affluent. So I haven't been struck by, um, our roads, you know, us not being able to keep up with the roads. Well, I'll have to say Michigan's in pretty bad shape right now, but that's a county road. Um, so my point is,
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the argument having listened to the citizens, the argument that this is different than the other developments we have on the books right now is pretty compelling. So I would at least like to know what, um, you know, analysis of the expenses.
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would strongly maybe next year, when it's time for us to do the millage rate, maybe you all make them have a different attitude, but I would like to help them. But I know that if I do it for one, I have eight other, uh, communities that will be pounding at the door, coming through our corridors right there, one in the same thing.
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talking about all the main roads that get all the traffic? But the neighborhoods are not the ones that are having to get resurfaced because they're all newer.
They haven't had to be anything done to them because they don't get the traffic. So the fear that it's going to cost the city, especially with the amount of money that they are contributing to our coffers, is to me, doesn't hold water. It's two miles of road and none of the other subdivisions that are public roads or cocoa roads are having to go in and be resurfaced because they don't get the traffic and they hold up. So I'm just saying, I'm asking you to please reconsider that.
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I know it was, it was, uh, one thing I did want to make a comment on dealing with that last conversation. Right. So when we talk about, um, the renter side of it, right?
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So when we say their name may not be on that tax bill, but they're paying taxes, someone in that subdivision is paying those taxes. They're, they're, they're contributing, even though they may not be the owner of that particular property. They are contributing to our revenue. And, and I guess as a third party, I guess, in a sense, but they are paying taxes. So I just,
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years. And so, you know, they're doing a home going for her this Sunday at 3 p.m. Um, but she would definitely be missed. And I, I definitely wanted to make sure, um, we get her a resolution as well.
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giants and Cowboys, he would be, uh, having a discussion for young men about financial literacy. I know I wish I learned about financial literacy as a teenager. I wouldn't have been so broke as a young adult. Um, but we're trying to provide great information to our young people. Um, a lot of the people in the community are crying out for help for their young men. And so we're trying to provide that, um, the resources out there. All they have to do is register. So you can register at 321empowerment.org. It is free. They receive a lunch, um, as well and breakfast as well too. So,
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Um, and so shout out to them. It's very hard to win championships, uh, no matter it's high school or youth. And thank you for all the coaches and dedicating all their time, um, for winning the Super Bowl.
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So shout out to those young guys, um, for ‸ all the hard work that they put in. Yeah. And that's, that's my son there. He's, you know, I couldn't tell him that he got three tackles. You could, he think he,
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That is unheard of. That's trait defense. So, uh, shout out to, to Mr. Erdman for, um, all the hard work and dedication those coaches put in. And that that's, that's all I had. Um, I know this next, I know we're supposed to have a meeting about the four corner. So I got questions about it. And I think we kind of had a conversation last night about it at our diamond square meeting. Um,
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And, um, for, you know, you had to sign up for that kind of like what we do through the League of Cities. Anyway, the entire city of Houston has no zoning period. The entire city has no zoning. They, um, if you buy a piece of property, uh, they do have setbacks and they do have some rules, but pretty much you can do with it what you want. And they took us through historic areas. And, um, uh, they, um, if you don't want something done in a particular area, you can deed restrict it.
want it to be historic. But there, there are rules in place for that. They can only tell you what you can do with the outside, not paint color. Your house has to look like the original. You can fix it up, but you can do anything you want to the inside.
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just did not have time. I know I was glad that the whole, uh, flying over there was the day that they were, uh, canceling flights, but my flight went. Um, but anyway, it was, uh, it was a great conference that I went to and, um, uh, there were some other things and I'm, I'm drawing a blank at the moment. So, uh, anyway, I'll have it for, well, our next meeting is not until December. Um, oh, I was going to ask, um,
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for Thanksgiving, right? We're just doing it for the Christmas. We're collecting for Christmas. Is that correct? I just want to make sure I got it straight.
We, we do the annual food, um, competition with, uh, the city of, uh, Rockledge. I think we, I think we do that, uh, for Thanksgiving. And so we, we do that.
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you. And as far as the parade goes, um, uh, I also wanted to get clarification on that. Uh, I know that there's a fire engine, but I'm going to be dressed as Mrs. Claus. So
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County. Yeah. There's myself representing, uh, a great event. So the Children's Safety Village is, uh, I think it sits on nine acres over in Orlando. Um, it's a location they built for children. Um, they can go and play. Uh, they do all types of events for kids there. It's a really cool place to be able to get a chance to, uh, visit.
So, uh, they raised money that night as well. And they awarded some ‸ first responders as well as some of the, uh, there was a youth that was awarded. He actually saved his family, uh, from a burning home. The home caught on fire.
was able to go and, uh, basically alert everyone and get everyone out. So he was awarded. Really great event. Um, just something I had, uh, done over the past week.
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believe is complete now. Um, so that's really great to see that the kids can now cross Dixon Boulevard, uh, in a safe manner. So, um, it's always great when we're making improvements.
that is the home of the expertise for alternative energy in all ‸ Florida. Um, I sit on the advisory board and we had a meeting today where we discovered that last Friday they were given notice that the budget has been cut. There's no future funding going
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this, of course they were, this is pretty shocking news. Uh, they actually have like 8 million in award letters that they were supposed to get last year. There were just never, nothing happened this year and, um, everyone was on hold.
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energy whiz event that they do is, is pretty popular. And of course that is coursework throughout the year leading up to it. So the, um, the advisory board of course is looking for ways to, you know, fund some of these things. But I mean, overall, uh, we're just going into a phase where there will not be any research being done. Um, well, in Florida and, and in the U S on solar alternative energies rather, not just solar and not just wind. So we went to the high point. Um, they have an annual picnic. This is a big event,
the center of Westchester road. And I was asked to ask if that could be painted over because that is not, they were, although people were grateful that there was a response to their, um, request to make that road safer and slower, they were really looking more for a pedestrian path.
down the center of the road. It looks more like a busy, heavily trafficked road. When cars are parked on one side, there's no way to stay within the double lines and get around the cars. So, um, so I told them I would put that out there. But, um, again, everyone's appreciative that there was a response. It's just that, um, that response is not what had people had in mind. And we had the Cirrus apartments, their, their ribbon cutting. Um, I won't say too much. I know the mayor will have this in his report as well.
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I just think make all the difference in the world. Like that this is, you know, just the lighting in the hallway, right? It's made to look like a rocket. So things like that that make it really fun. And they're doing really well over 80% occupancy at this point. And again, such a great project because, you know, it, it took blight and turned it into something that we can be really proud of.
walk in every day, um, we've had a lot of water issues. In the bottom left-hand corner, that's the Dixon Indian river drive, just sitting in water. And of course water streaming. There's a constant flow of water from the apartments that are up there. And, uh, first of all, let me say thank you, um,
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Uh, appreciate you meeting with me and, ‸ you know, talking about, um, some of the issues. And of course, this is a neighborhood that has several engineers that have, you know, this is what they talk about. Where is this water coming from? Um, and they had a couple of theories. One being that the stormwater pond
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and Indian river drive. Um, and the upper right left is at Indian circle, the north side of Indian circle. And what you see in the right corner, right lower corner, is that property, his backyard, he's had to set up three sump pumps. And this is relatively recent. So, they're really concerning water issues in that Indian circle area. Um, I also want to say that Thomas Nash, is he with public works or is he with utilities? He's very well liked in the community. Just wanted you to know. Everybody knows his name. We had ‸ the, um,
Thank you. And then the October 26 storms really left quite a mark on the bluff on Indian river drive. Of course, we just, we experienced this within, you know, the city limits. This is on Beverly, which you see the first, well, all three photos are that.
where the road washed away. But there were three others, um, that were on private lands. So really some, some issues. Now that was a 10 inch storm. It was a really big storm. But we hear about those all the time now. So it's concerning. In this case, I know that there had been, there was some land clearing that was done last year.
live along this area should be aware of, I think it would be great to educate them on that. And, um, ‸ I don't know whose responsibility that would be. But, um, it's probably not a good idea to pull out large rooted trees out of the bluff. Um, just because of, of the erosion that takes place. Um, anyway.
Okay. Okay. And this, I just wanted to make another pitch and we'll be making pitches all year long for Ashley Ingram, who would really like to see a park one day in Cocoa Hills, where we have a park desert. It's part of our comp plan. ‸ Should be on our priorities list. And so I'll continue to advocate for that neighborhood.
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give a special shout out to, uh, Mrs. Patty Bryan there. We're at her facility, Walk on Water Ministries. As you can see myself and Kevin and his beautiful wife. That's Mrs. Patty Bryan right there with the blue on on Merritt Island.
After that big heavy rain, we, you know, had, had experience on Merritt Island. It's a nonprofit organization helping autistic kids using, um, horse riding as part of their therapy with the love of animals too as well.
I'm happy to say, and had a wonderful time there. I do believe in that, uh, and supporting their organization. And she's part of our sister cities too as well.
The young lady that's holding the turkey, uh, sorry, turkey adjacent to me. She's in charge of the dental program at Eastern Florida State College. And she made a donation to help us out. You can see myself holding the turkey and our newest member. Uh, we met her through our police department when we were at Texas Roadhouse. Um, her name is Brooke Contardi. We had a great time, wonderful time. They hit me up with some money from the police, um, police department. As you can see in the background, that's money and food. People donated food to the Sharing Center because we want to beat South Coco again. Um, we beat them, what, three or four consecutive years in a row. Then all of a sudden they switched the game on us and they got a major contribution. This is Officer Tabor. We're loading up the Sharing Center ‸ truck with food goods, turkeys, dry goods, um, anything to help out the Sharing Center. That's Brooke. The gentleman
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He drove the vehicle there. We had a great time, man. People were very friendly. They embraced us with open arms. And it was a great time Saturday. Um, that's Brooke and myself.
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the police department and PALS. They provided food for us this summer. And, uh, Miss Brooke works there at Texas Roadhouse. And South, South, South Coco Vieira. That's Mark and Mark. You can see him right there. Um,
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having a great turnout. Uh, I was very proud of that. Uh, here we had the grand opening of the FLC new building, the university, right now on Pine Avenue. That's our current president, Mrs. President Holly Smith. Um, I will be, we will all see her come December, as you all know. Uh, we had a great time. That's Jenny and her two boys and myself at the grand opening. We dedicated a room there into this building.
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you. Yeah. So the girls are smarter than the guys here. So that's Mayor Pat Bates, past president of the Florida League of Cities, mayor of Altamont Springs. Uh, Lynn Tipton, you guys should remember her from the E-more class. We dedicated a building, a room to those two ladies, the chancellor, which is Pat Bates, and the guru of FLC. And she would give you historical learning,
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Here they are, sisters of love right there. This room is dedicated to them. Uh, very nice man. Great turnout. Uh, my tight man was there too as well. That's Pat's husband. Um, you can see we're all lined up there. Uh, past president, yours truly. Uh,
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Yes, ma'am. Orange County. Yes, ma'am. Um, first, uh, vice president, Mark Franks. And you can see all of us here. You can see, uh, ‸ Madam President with her orange slippers on, her shoes on, man. She's rocking and shocking the house. This is the dedication. Um, second vice president, yours truly, Sarah Stokel,
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‸ We love our city. Continue to fight for our city. Great days and happy days are here. Again, remember the reason for the season. If you can help someone along the way, do so.
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