Amen.
Amen. Thank you,
ma'am.
And now for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it.
Thank you, sir. Madam Clerk, roll call, please.
Mayor Williams.
Present.
Deputy Mayor Warner.
‸ Here.
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Here. City Attorney Garganese. Here.
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And Assistant City Manager.
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Thank
you. Okay. We can move on to approve our agenda and minutes. What's the wishes of the council for our agenda?
Motion to approve the agenda.
Second. We
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All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? It passes unanimously. Our minutes from January 23rd, 2019.
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Second
by Deputy Mayor Warner. All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? It passes unanimously.
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We got a presentation by Dr. James Fenton. ‸ He's the Executive Director of Florida Solar Energy Center. Councilwoman Koss. Yes.
I'd love to give that introduction. ‸ Thank you for being here tonight. Dr. Fenton is the Director
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We actually have the brain trust of
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And ‸ he leads a staff of 70 in the research and development of energy technologies that enhance Florida's and the nation's economy and environment and educate the public, students, and practitioners on the results of the research. FSEC leads national programs funded by the U.S.
Department
of Energy and Transportation in Building America, energy efficient homes, photovoltaic manufacturing, hot humid PV testing of large-scale PV to show bankability, solar-ready vets, and train-the-trainers education for solar installations, as well as programs to de-sease the soft costs of PV installation, electric vehicle transportation, and clean cities. He received his Ph.D. in chemical engineering from the University of Illinois, his B.S. from UCLA, and he's serving as the Secretary of the Electrochemical Society. Thank you for being here.
It's my pleasure to be here with you this evening.
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enthusiasm about where solar is going, and then
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Things have been changing rapidly over the...
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Great. I'd like to talk to you today about solar, and we'll bring up a little bit also about electric vehicles and transportations.
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want to remind all of us that everybody in this room pays an electric bill.
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You're in the business of lowering your electric bill, and that's true for the city as well, of course.
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It's an opportunity to think of it as an investment. So we'll ‸ all share that with you as it dwells the jobs and generations. Back in the 2010 timeframe, solar photovoltaics, it's actual cost,
a
piece of equipment.
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but it's actually levelized cost of electricity, the equivalent cost of electricity
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you might pay out of the wall. So to give you a flavor on this scale, today, residentially, we pay about 12 cents a kilowatt hour for solar. So you can see in 2010, residentially, you'd be paying 42 cents. Nobody in the right mind would be using solar.
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all the way up there was too expensive. So that's why we used it up there. Okay. But in 2010, both the residential, the commercial, and the utility costs were all ‸ very high. You'll also notice that the difference between the residential at 42 cents versus 27 cents for the utility was a 15 cents difference. I'll remind you that the utilities purchase their power plants, generate the electricity from that, and then run it through transmission lines and distribution lines, and there's taxes associated with that, as well as the fact that they also have to make a profit on all that. We look at the 2016 numbers, and you can see it drops down to 18 cents, 13 cents for commercial, and 7 cents for utilities.
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out of the wall. Right?
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entertain the idea of using solar co-ops, buying solar ‸ in ‸ agglomerated sort of ways, and big purchases, reducing the soft costs.
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5.9 cents. So in 2010, it was way too expensive. In 2016, it was about equal. In 2017, it's about half the cost of what you're paying out of the wall. So I bought it then. I've been at
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solar center since 2005. I wasn't putting solar in my house. It was too expensive.
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the best investment I can make. Now, let's look at that. You'll notice that the commercial dropped down to 4.6 cents at that particular time, too, ‸ on their rooftops. Those are examples of the cost. In the case of a commercial system, it depends a lot on the size you've got. 100 kilowatt, 200 kilowatt. As an example, Satellite Beach put 200 kilowatts on their city hall. Okay?
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cost is even for the 200 scale,
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even cheaper than my 4.6 cents. Okay, we move along. The utilities. Last year, electric utilities in the state of Florida were putting 75 megawatts. It's pretty big. A nuclear power plant, on the other hand, is 1,000 megawatts, so it's still much smaller than a nuclear power plant, but it's still pretty big. 500 acres worth of dirt you would use.
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3.6 cents last year with no lithium-ion batteries.
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That enables them to move the peak when the sun's coming out to when everybody goes home and runs their air conditioners. The utilities are printing money right now because they're putting solar fields everywhere
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they're the cheapest things around. Okay.
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It has to outrun the slowest gazelle. Okay? We've already chewed up coal. It's gone. Oil sands are gone. Oil is going to convince you about electric cars and natural gas.
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Okay?
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So this is the photovoltaic installation, and those are in megawatts over there on the left. But you can see in 2010 to 2015, nothing. Things managed to occur in 2016. The utilities started to put in a lot.
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2017, we put in more. The income tax credit was continuing, and that's an estimated number for 2018 all the way out to 2023. In this last year, FPL alone has blown this up because they're planning on putting in a gigawatt, which is 1,000 of those megawatts themselves, every year until the year 2030 because they're going to have 30 million panels and
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So we're going like crazy. But perhaps most importantly is you should notice that the dark blue, which is
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little bit of yellow there, is that we're increasing. And we're actually increasing at a faster rate than the utilities. It is estimated in the United States by the year 2023, the customers will be buying just as much solar as the electric utilities do. ‸ In Florida,
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We've got a ways to catch up. But that's going to happen, and it may be a break-even point by the year 2028. Okay. This just is a little blurb about the solar co-ops. We've had one here in Brevard. This is where several people come together, and sort of they end up buying in like a Chinese menu a la carte. From the contractor's perspective, that really lowers their
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Their customer acquisition costs have gone down. And so if you go look at the solarunitedneighbors.org on the website, Florida, you'll find a lot of information about it. Councilwoman Lorraine Koss is very active in that group as well. I know she has solar on her roof as I did. And so I was a customer of the Brevard co-op that occurred before. I think we're having another one sometime in March that will be starting out, ‸ so people are interested in that. This is something you should look at. The number one fastest-growing job in the United States is solar
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You should also be aware. There's about five times as many people ‸ install solar panels on roofs than there are on the utility scale one. So the jobs are all on your roof, not in that 500 acres, okay, that the utilities put up. So not only are you making a good investment, but you're employing your neighbors. So something to think about. This just shows you the salaries.
It
turns out that solar photovoltaic throughout the United States, the average salary is $39,000 a year,
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continue to. ‸ You know, list number two is wind turbine technician. So renewable energy is taking off in the jobs and everywhere else. This just sort of shows you that the amount of solar workers in 2018 actually went down a little bit, but it's 159% increase from 2010. And the lower left, you can see here that the bulk of the jobs are in the residential and the non-residential. Each one of those solar installations is a custom job that requires a little bit more high tech.
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Why
don't
you also look at a different, a change in paradigm. Our primary goal, as I said earlier, okay, is to not use energy. Imagine taking a dollar bill and lighting it with a match. That's what you do every time you turn on the light switch, any time you do any other kind of little things using energy to get in your car.
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So we want to stop doing that, okay? If I have to do it, I want to use it locally rather than exporting money out of the state. And of course, I'd like it to be more renewable and more energy efficient. So we can operate our buildings with electricity from utility and rooftop solar. I'd still rather have you put more efficiency measures into your home because that increases the wealth of your house and you're not burning money. But we can also drive our cars on floor of electricity. And that's cheaper than gasoline today. The reality is anything that uses a fuel, the price goes up. Anything you dig out of the ground, cement, whatever, prices are always going up. Technology prices go down. They go down with scale. In addition to that, they also reduce our gas
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So let me give you a little bit of, we'll do a little math exercise, okay? The average car on the road gets about 25 miles per gallon. And you can pick whatever price
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to go one mile.
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And if
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Now there's all the other costs you do as well. Now an electric car that are coming out, and my Nissan Leaf, which is in the parking lot here, wasn't able to plug it in though, but I have a 150 mile range, so I didn't need to. Okay, all right? Because it did get plugged in at home, and I'll get to you why the benefit of that is in a second. But the 3.7 miles per kilowatt hour, and
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was 12 and a half cents. When I divide that through, I get to 3.4. So comparing the 8 cents to $2 a gallon versus the 3.4 cents, you can see that's more than twice as much. So when I use electricity out of the wall, made in Florida, okay,
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So if you think $2 a gallon is cheap, you're wrong. It's two times too expensive. Now, if you put solar on your roof, which is with, I was eligible for the income tax credit, so this is what I do, okay, I pay 4 cents a kilowatt hour. I'm paying the equivalent of 27 cents a gallon. So for the users who are still using gasoline, half of that money goes to foreign entities and then maybe other states, okay? I keep all the profit, all the labor, and all the money at home. I'm paying 27 cents a gallon to drive my car, all right? It's an interesting opportunity to look at that. Now, we want to talk about where the future are.
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So what happens when we want to make electricity at night and even things of this? You'll look at this ‸ graph here. This is the gigawatt hours. That's the energy stored, okay, in the various devices.
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You see that that green line is actually the stationary storage.
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So your iPhones and your cell phones and whatever else, okay, actually will hold more energy than all the stationary storage they're anticipating by 2030. But you'll notice there'll be 24 times as much energy storage in electric vehicles. Now, the electric vehicles are all on
the
customer side of the meter. So by 2023, you, the customer, are going to control your energy generation. Hopefully, you made your house more energy efficient. And you're going to have an energy storage device in your garage that does a pretty good job. And you've already paid for it because it's cheaper to drive than what you're doing today.
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Right? Interesting.
Now, this gets a little bit complicated, okay? This is about why it's a good internal rate of return. So ignore the bottom axis. Just look along the internal rate of return there where it has zero energy storage. So if I was to go ‸ out today and buy solar and put it on my roof, as I told you, it turns out it's zero kilowatt hours of battery there. You look up to the yellow line, you see that's about a 12.5% internal rate of return. Twice as good as the stock market. It's fixed for 25 years. So if you have $10,000 to invest, you've
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as well.
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income tax credit, the price of solar is coming down low enough, that that will be close to a 15%. Rate of return. All
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I'm up close to a 27% rate of return. Now, if you choose to wait for a 20% rate of return, in my case, I'll actually be dead baby by then.
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So putting solar on your
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Now, what happens if you choose to go ahead and add batteries? The black line there shows you the battery effectiveness. So for the average home in Florida, ‸ if I wanted to be able to use all the solar, I would put 9.35 kilowatts of solar on my roof. That would make all the electricity I'd need. I'd use the batteries to get me so I could ride through without the grid connected and so on and so forth.
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way up there when I get out to 40 kilowatt hours of battery. Now, there is no business model for you to use a battery today. It just sits there. And if you were using it for reliability or when you lost power, you honestly hope you never use it. Same way I feel about my gasoline generator. I own it, but it's an insurance policy. I hope I never need it. Okay? It would be the same way with the battery. But the cost of the batteries are coming down. So
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if I went ahead and bought a battery today, my 12.3% would drop down to its lowest, down to about 3%, you know, the cost of money, okay, by the time I got out to a 26
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But by the time I get to 2030, you're going to have batteries. And even if my price suggestions are correct and you put 100% batteries in there,
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Another way to look at it is the Nissan Leaf that I drove here today has a 40 kilowatt hour battery in it. My car is already cheaper, better, faster than the car I used to own before. I already have the battery in my car to go ahead and satisfy resiliency problems. So you'll start seeing in the future, we really will do this vehicle to grid where the solar and the car can get you through anything.
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electric. We can do the numbers for you if you'd like to look into that. Opportunities for demonstrations on the solar on the buildings around here.
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The cost of electricity out of solar on your roof at home, you can't beat it. You got the money on the roof, do it. Commercial, it gets a little bit more complicated because there's something called demand charges. And you got to do some math to figure out whether it really lowers your overall electric bill. Solar displaces your energy, doesn't necessarily meet your demand charges. PV compared to PV
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an electric vehicle are far better than a gasoline car. As I hinted, residential storage is a tough market
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I myself have a five kilowatt gasoline generator that I can run my whole house on. And because I went out and purchased a very efficient air conditioner, I can actually even run the air conditioner on that. When you've got a cheap air conditioner, you can't do that. So I can keep my wife cool when we
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The business model, it's a complicated one for businesses,
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And then vehicle to grid may be a good possibility for the future. So if I was the city, first thing I would be doing is be looking around all my buildings for energy efficiency upgrades. Instead of doing one big splashy PV installation,
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I would measure them, measure the load data with the PV so you get really accurate data so future purchases you can do wisely and make them as wise as you can. I wouldn't be in a hurry to do this. You might want to consider ‸ installing a 10 kilowatt PV canopy with a couple of ‸ EV chargers, good PR.
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You can comment about that all the elected officials around here are running on solar that they make right at City Hall.
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Okay, that
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And you can display all that energy information, okay, in real time for the public. With that, I'll close. This is a quote from Thomas Edison back in 1931, and he actually said this in the southern part of the state of Florida.
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Harvey Firestone and Henry Ford, because they were really upset that the people that were really making the money were digging holes in the ground and pulling oil out instead of the technologies associated with cars.
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we are like tenant farmers chopping down the fence around our house for fuel. When we should be using nature's inexhaustible sources of energy. I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power. I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that. Oil and coal keep existing. The reality is it'll be cheaper to keep it in the ground. Okay? And then with closing, solar on your roof and EV in your garage is where you put your money. It better return to the stock market and the jobs stay in Florida. Thank you.
Thank you. Any questions? ‸ Any counsel? Any comments?
Just to say that we'll be having you back.
Yeah, well, you can tell I like to talk. I consider myself a ‸ solar evangelist. ‸ So we'll see how that goes. Thank you very much. ‸ Thank you for coming out, sir. ‸ All right.
Okay. That was the last of our awards and presentations. So we're going to move on to our delegations. We have five minutes to expound on whatever it is you need to talk about. First up is Mr. Warren McGee. ‸ You can state your name and address when you come up, sir.
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I live at [address]. I ‸ brought another sign tonight.
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And if
you
all drive down that street, you might see me from time to time. And I'm begging people to drive like their children live on that street. What I've noticed is
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Melbourne, one of the communities, counties near us, their sheriff's department is giving out these signs. So we have a problem. ‸ Michigan Avenue a few months ago, my neighbor got killed. So
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And that's why I'm doing what I'm doing. I want to play ‸ short audio here. If it doesn't work, I can explain it. Wish us luck here. I'm sorry.
I
had to turn my sound down when the meeting started. Let me start over here.
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Ten miles per hour may not seem like much. Unless
you're talking about being hit by a speeding car, then it becomes a matter of life and death.
In fact,
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only going 30.
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it's going 40. When it comes to speeding, it's just not worth it. It's 30 miles per hour for a reason. This message is brought to
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So as you see,
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got a problem in our country. I believe the city of Cocoa has an opportunity to lead and show other communities that we can put an end to this. A few weeks ago, I sent you guys my petitions.
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Yes. And on my cover letter, I explained that we want speed bumps, speed humps, but we understand ‸ the expense and whatnot, and so we wanted to try stop signs to see if they'll work. Maybe they'll work. Maybe they won't. But I do know this. I have a stop sign in front of my house,
and
I think that was a good idea for the city to come out there and put that stop sign up. But I don't think the city did a complete job, and that's why I'm here tonight, because in front of the museum, people slow down on Michigan, and then as soon as they get past that light, it's
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and come in the other direction. When you get in front of the fire department, they're running about 40. Kind of ironic somebody sent me this ‸ video today. I don't like
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but better than 40. So what I'm here tonight is to ask, why you only put up one sign when we talked about it, and we were going to put several above.
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That's near the fire department. On down toward
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And I thought that we had an agreement that if we did stop signs, we would do more than one. As you know, I'm not shy. I'm going to stand out there holding this sign, until I die if I have to to slow these cars down. And there's other people that will do the same thing. There's just not enough of us. So anyway, I guess I want to ask the city, will you put up another stop sign and give this thing an honest chance? I mean, or am I going to get a,
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That's ‸ my question tonight. I'd like to go back to my neighbors and say, they're going to work with us.
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Well, I'm going to say, we appreciate everything that you're doing yourself.
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And hopefully we're going to be addressing that issue.
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But we'll look into it.
Yeah, they put the first stop sign up. And I believe there's been some monitoring. There's been some police trying to catch people going through that sign. So I guess what we do next.
Let me say this ‸ if I may. I understand and my neighbors understand you guys can't be there 24 seven. ‸ And that's the problem because when you're gone, they take off. I'm surprised there's not black marks in front of my house. I ‸ guess you guys know, I went on vacation. I'm glad I missed the first week ‸ of that town. But somebody came back, they ripped the signs out of the ground. You guys had to come back out and cement them in. So I don't know.
I
guess I'm begging you to put that other sign up. I'm begging you to say, yes, we'll do it.
I can tell you this is not a dead issue. So we're going to do everything we can to try to remove that problem.
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We're just going
to
have to get with our departments and just figure out what we can do to address those issues. Because we know there's an issue over there. I've been there. I've seen ‸ the speed. We
just don't want to wait
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somebody else gets killed or hurt.
Exactly. I agree with you.
Maybe we can put the electronic monitoring, that machine we have.
‸ They had
it up there for a while, yeah.
It was up for a month, but the batteries were dead for two weeks. They put the cables
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‸ We got you, sir. We're going
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be working on this and we'll stay in contact with you.
Well, ‸ I hope you do it as quickly. You've already shown us you could act quickly.
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stop sign. ‸ I get up early. I don't want to keep coming back. Thank you ‸ for coming out.
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Is there another sign?
Good evening, everyone. Reverend J.B. Dennis, 3710 Catalina Drive. As a chaplain and a chair of security,
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I try not to allow being homeless in poor crime,
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But I'd like to hear it, too, that they pushed the wrong button. But to make a long story short, we stopped the homeless from putting the trash on our church side of the road. So what they've done now, they
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it ain't been cleaned out,
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people have been dumping back there. And we were like that, just the city getting the trash up over there. Because I allow people that's homeless to come over on our property to charge the phones. And I also got a problem with the homeless over in our old building that we have. It's going to be torn down sooner or later. So tomorrow I'll be jacking up the trustee that we don't trust about 10 to die.
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is
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an eyesore. We saw it. Okay, thank you. Yes. All right. Homelessness is a
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where there are significant costs and strains on law enforcement, the courts, private businesses, and other public resources. There are only a few organizations and volunteers with the capacity to provide services to the homeless. My church gives out food on Mondays and Wednesdays.
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with bagged lunches. And also, we
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The large crisis is the lack of housing.
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so men, women, and children can have a safe place to sleep every night.
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life improvements and opportunities to address the issues that cause their homelessness.
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in programs to improve their lives.
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Network also petitioned for a workshop to reach a solution to end the homeless crisis in the city of Cocoa. Thank you. Thank you, sir.
Okay, next up we have ‸ Mr. Alex Greenwood.
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I'm here in reference to some construction work
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It also is right next door, it started anyway, to a building I built 32 years ago. The crosswalk that is located there on the corner of Derby and Brevard for over 30 years was brick. And that was an access route for the whole construction of all the Enderpoint condos.
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There is no damage under that crosswalk that required that crosswalk now for that brick to be removed. When that was happening, I tried to get information about it, and the information I got was that they want to ‸ remove the brick, that again, no issues with it, and put tar down, cut the tar, stain it to make it look like brick. Now, this type of construction, you can go to Merritt Island, you can see it everywhere, and it does not last long. It requires more maintenance than the brick that was there to begin with,
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cost to remove the material, heavy-duty equipment, a staff of about five or four people to do it. The material that they're removing can be reused. I don't know if that's happening. But if it's not broke, you don't fix it.
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not only to pay to have it removed, but the cost of the material that's being removed, there's areas of the city that needs it badly. And one, for example, is the area between Florida Avenue and U.S. 1. It's also called
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because the city was not watering them properly. I have them here that I can identify them and show exactly what streets they were planted on that are now no longer there. There. Somebody came from the city when I was doing some renovations on some of the property there with the sawzall,
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area of the city for maintaining it. And that was the biggest concern at every meeting I went to for that neighborhood by the neighbors that have lived in that neighborhood for years. And what their concerns were is happening. There's no budget to maintain that area. There are two street lamps. One is across the street from property I've renovated that used to be known as a crack place. You drive in, you drive out 15 units. With that being said, there's a lamppost at 228 Orange Street that has not been replaced for an extended period of time. That's lighting. That's only 3,000. So the crosswalks that now I see in addition is at the end of Orange Street between Chase Bank and the Historic Society building could very easily, at $150 a tree,
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to replace all the oak trees that were missing.
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That's something that could put back what we promised to that neighborhood that they were very concerned about from day one with no budget to maintain it. Even the street lights there, I had to add FPL lights to increase the lighting that we lost when we changed to the lighting we have now. Those bulbs can be increased to higher wattage. I'm just here to find out, as a builder, to me, I cannot, it doesn't sit with me well. And there's several other people that asked me to come and speak for them. One of them happens to be the ex-mayor that lives on the same street off of Derby.
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happening. There are other people that I'm representing as well. I can provide that information. My time is up. All I'm saying is that I need to see if I'm overreacting or if this is something of concern for something that does not need any work done. If you've got money to burn, burn it where I suggested for an example. Somewhere in the city, 528, the landscaping there has died since the widening of the road. It's all over the city where it could be actually utilized. Thank you. Sorry.
Thank you, sir.
Next up we got Mr.
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Good evening, Mr. Mayor. Alan Chapman. Good evening. Executive Director of Historic Cocoa Village Association, 600 Florida Avenue, right here in the city of Cocoa. Thank you for the opportunity to speak this evening. I just want to talk to you very quickly about the upcoming art and craft fair. We have over 200 booths. We're up about 25% from previous years. As you may recall,
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and crafters, and we're looking forward to a very, very exciting event. Our budget has been expanded for promotion, and I know we're competing with the Grand Seafood Festival as we always do, but I hope we're going to have a great weekend this weekend. It's Saturday 10 to 5, and Sunday 10 to 4, so please come out, bring your families, family friendly, pet friendly, as always in the village, of course. Another matter I'd like to speak to just briefly, ‸ Alex just mentioned, Mr. Greenwood, sorry, just mentioned some issues with paving. Throughout the village, we have a lot of ‸ paving stones down on sidewalks, and we do have some
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crosswalks, and these paving stones for us have been an ongoing issue for maintenance and for safety. They perform, they present a trip hazard every time something gets pulled up.
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crosswalks at Florida Avenue and ‸ orange, and they hold their color well. They're very effective. They appear to be maintenance-free, which is a lot, a lot that we, there's something we can't say for the amount of time that has been spent repairing
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at various locations in the sidewalks around the city and the crosswalks. I know that wasn't perhaps what you wanted to hear from me tonight, but I think
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as new paving is carried forward in crosswalks, that the paved concrete represents a low cost and very effective alternative. Thank you. Thank you, sir.
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Good
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First, I would just like to thank Mayor Williams, Councilwoman Koss, and Councilman Goins for coming out to the
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and being judges for us. We had a really great turnout. There were 800 or so people with their pets out and it was a beautiful day. And I don't think anybody came after you today,
Mr.
Thank
you.
Anyway, it was just really awesome and we were very happy to see so many people out with so many well-behaved pets. And we do really greatly appreciate
y'all
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supporting the effort. We raised about $3,000 and we
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As most people know now, we received a $25,000 grant from the state of Florida for the people who purchase car
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in the state of Florida. And we received that $25,000 and brought it into Cocoa. Of course, anyone in Brevard County that came to us with a low-income kitty or a feral community cat, we would spay or neuter it for free.
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our goal is to prevent having unwanted litters of ‸ cats and to have ‸ unwanted animals in general roaming the streets because of various issues that that presents to people and to the animals. And then I also would just like quickly to mention to you all that it would be so
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would join other counties or other cities in Brevard and other counties in Florida and make a ban on allowing businesses to come into your city that would sell puppies that come from outside of a natural local breeder because unfortunately the majority come from puppy mills out of Pennsylvania and Ohio area. And it is really sad. It's not the puppies that we're trying to save. It is the moms and the dads of the puppies because puppy mills are very sad and disgusting places. And we have enough animals here that we're trying to find homes for so we really don't need anybody shipping them in from outside of our state. So we just ask that you would consider that as a requirement that you might want to get behind.
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county level on the
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But West Melbourne as of late in the past few years has gone that route as has a couple of other cities in Brevard County and a number of counties. There's a very long list of them in the state of Florida who are now also banning it. Since we can't control them from bringing them in from the interest doing an interstate compact because that is a federal thing.
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homeless people. It is the same with homeless animals. It creates the same issues as it does for homeless people. You know, where are they going to go to the bathroom? How are they going to get fed? Are they going to bite somebody? Are they going to create issues that creates more activity that
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taxpayers dollars? So anyway, I just wanted to bring that up because I was very moved by the mayor's town hall meeting and I realized that if you don't speak up people don't realize that there is a problem. And this is something that the city of Coco does not have a problem with right now. So why not just prevent it from happening instead of waiting until it does happen and then having to have issues with people like the gentleman in Melbourne who has a pet shop that sells puppies that
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they come from. He's never been there. So we just don't need them here. So I would ask that you all would consider that. Thank you.
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you,
ma'am. Thank you. Okay, that's to bring us to the end of our delegation there. We're going to move on to our consent agenda.
Second.
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All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? It passes unanimously.
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amendment
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in connection with the proposed application to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development,
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Deputy Director.
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in accordance with the requirements of
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to request a substantial amendment for the city's approved FY18-19 action plan in connection with the proposed application to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development for the $894,448,000 Section 108 loan. And this, the funds for this Section 108 loan will be used for the
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which is currently, we have an approved design-build team in place who are working on completing the plans. And once this loan has been transmitted and received back to the city, we'll be able to use those funds to complete the construction of the building.
Yes, ma'am. Any comments from the council before opening it up to the public? Aye. I'm going to go ahead and close it to the council and open it up to the public for any public comments,
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to the public, open it back up to the council. What is the wishes of the council?
Motion to approve. Second.
We get a motion by Councilman Goins and a second by Deputy Mayor Warner. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? It passes unanimously. We're going to move into our second item on the public hearing, and that's approve a preliminary subdivision consistent with Chapter 18 of the City of Cocoa Cove for London Cove
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I'm going to turn this over to Dodie Selig, ‸ our planning and zoning manager, and she's going to present you with the information about London Cove.
There we
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All right. So this item is, as you said, a preliminary subdivision entitled London Cove. The project has three parcels containing ‸ just under 19 acres. It's on the south side of 524, immediately west of Cocoa Commons.
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And the property is currently vacant land. You can see here the subject site's in red. This is just south of 524 and just west of industry in that intersection. So a little background. The project was originally approved by the city in 2009. It had six commercial lots along the road frontage and 61 townhomes in the rear. Unfortunately, the recession came along and the project was not built. However, the applicant is here today. He's proposing to similarly subdivide the property into six commercial lots along 524 with one single residential parcel to the south.
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Supporting infrastructure for the lots will be built right now with the conjunction with the commercial lots. That'll include the stormwater pond,
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there's a 45-foot easement that connects drainage ‸ from 524.
And my pointer's gone.
Okay, I was going to point out. So 524 in the picture is on the north, northeast corner, northwest corner. Have you got our, you know what that, oh okay, thank you. Well, thank you, I
bet.
So that's the drainage easement. The stormwater pond is right about right there where your hand is. Okay. You can see the six lots across the north.
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It's an extension of London Boulevard. So with that, there'll be a signalized intersection there, connection. And the end of London Boulevard will offer access into, oh thank you. ‸ Appreciate that. Okay, so this is London Boulevard coming down. It'll offer entrance into the residential portion. All of this down here is the future residential development. These are, this is parcel A, and then there's B, C, D, E, and F across the top. This is an access road that would provide future
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the southern side of that road is a, or will be, I should say, a buffer wall with landscaping to provide ‸ separation between these commercial lots and the future residential area. And then this polka dotted area to the south, that's the existing wetlands. And then that was actually, uh, uh,
when
the project was originally approved that through that process, we acquired all of that. It ‸ connects with, uh, cocoa conservation in terms of flow, uh, from the wetland areas. So, um, so staff looked at the, uh, subdivision regulations for, uh, neighborhood commercial zoning districts looking at the creation of these lots.
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feet in width, which is significantly more than the 75 required. Uh, the depth would range between 260 and 300 feet, which again gives, uh, a considerable, uh, increase over the minimum requirement. And
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minimum lot requirements for either the RU 210 or the RU 215 zoning district that's currently there. Uh, the property is located, as I said, on the north of an existing wetland area.
Um,
portion is in the AE flood zone. So
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uh, reviewed the projects and they provided a number of comments and they'll need to be, uh, addressed, uh, before there's development to the site. In, uh, looking at the comprehensive plan,
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policy 1.1.2.8 C, uh, which addresses pedestrian connectivity between neighborhood commercial and surrounding, uh, multifamily development and encourages that connectivity. And
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um, which, uh, states of city would ensure that additional growth and development is respectful, respectful of established neighborhoods. With respect to concurrency,
um,
staffs done a preliminary review found that services, are sufficient, uh, to meet the needs of proposed development. And as always, we will do a final, review when the final application is provided. So the next step, if approved, the preliminary subdivision, uh, will allow the developer to begin construction of the improvements to the site, um, provided all the conditions are met and that the final subdivision will have to be required, applied for within one year of the approval of this preliminary. Uh, the planning and zoning board recommended approval, uh, with conditions of the subdivision at its December 5th meeting 2018. Uh, some of those conditions have been addressed, uh,
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were not included in the recommendation. Recommendation tonight before you is to approve a preliminary subdivision consistent ‸ Chapter 18 subdivisions and Appendix A zoning of the city code for London Cove
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One, all unresolved review comments from city of Cocoa staff or other reviewers on behalf of the city should be addressed prior to the final subdivision application being heard by city council unless an earlier deadline is established below.
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and
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From utilities reuse,
um,
please provide a reuse connection in detail on the plans. From the fire ‸ department,
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and measured along fire department access roads. Prefer height locations may be at street corners, intersections, and recommended under street lights when applicable.
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or
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fire protection shall be provided at all premises in accordance
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entry security gate during emergencies by fire department personnel should be provided. Number three, fire department access roads of at least 20 feet in width and designed to support the imposed loads of the fire apparatus shall be provided at the start of the project and shall be maintained throughout construction. ‸ Number four, during building construction
contractor
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shall maintain access to all parts of the site, provide fire extinguishers
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designated areas, accumulation of combustible waste material, dust, and debris
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be removed from the structure and its immediate vicinity at the end of each work shift.
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box, Knox, lock, so fire department personnel can access the property. Application for key lock shall be obtained by fire inspector. Number six, any underground water mains and hydrants are to be tested and approved prior to commencing construction work on any structure. Number seven, upon building completion, commercial building address number shall be six inches in height and individual single family homes of at least four inches in height per Florida Fire Prevention Code, NFPA
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in a manner to be seen from the street. Number eight, project to follow Florida
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addition to building code and other related codes and standards. Recommended chapter to review, chapter 18, fire department access and water supply,
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chapter 16, safeguarding construction, alterations, and demolition operations. Number nine, the design and use of any traffic calming devices shall be approved by the AHJ. From Public Works Department, the road drainage is to be private and maintained by the owner. Number two, traffic signalization along London Boulevard will require additional rework. Number three, the current pipe that discharges State Road 524 runoff to the property is about 30 inches.
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43 inch by 68 inch ERCP.
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We'd like to see the calculations justifying that size of pipe.
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line of oak trees. Please provide a little more separation between the center of the oak tree and the irrigation line. This will minimize future disruption to the irrigation system from oak tree roots. And finally, City Surveyor and floodplain management. Number one, provide copies of revised plans to address the City Surveyor comments, as well as payment of the Surveyor's final invoice. Number two, provide ‸ revised plans to address the floodplain review comments. Number three, provide a copy of the new St. John's River Water Management district permit. And number four, the conservation element of the Comp Plan policy 12.1 to 6.15 suggests that for projects requiring a St. John's River Water Management district permit, the City shall require as a condition of development approval that wetland buffers shall be protected and enumerated by a perpetual conservation easement.
that
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such further review of the wetland areas shown outside of ‸ conservation tracks ‸ is required and that additional conservation easements of tracks may be required upon final plan approval.
I'm done.
Thank you. Thank you ma'am.
Thank you. Thank you. You say the developers are here?
Yes. Are
these the same developers from back then?
It is, yes.
Because I remember this project from way back when. I don't remember the developers that well, but.
Yes, Mr. Schmutz here if you have questions for him.
Okay.
What I'm going to do is just go ahead and if the developer can come forward, I'm going to go ahead and open it up to the public so they can, if they have any questions,
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And if the council have any questions, then they can act those of the developer. So, is he.
Yeah.
We're actually the consultant for the developer.
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with us. And we're happy to answer any questions you may have.
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then ‸ we might have some questions for you. So, just in case. And ‸ I'm going to close it to the council and open it up to the public for any public comments. Yes, sir. You can, do you want to come up and state your name and address?
Sure.
This one. Yes, sir. Oh, good.
My
name is
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Okay. And I couldn't tell by that map that you had up there, not that it was a bad map or anything, I just couldn't read it, but how close is this going to be to the high-speed train corridor that's going to be coming in through there? Of course.
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And so that, that was my question.
Yeah. I'm not for sure. I can, well, the, the train alignment is actually on the north side of 528.
Oh, okay.
It'll, it's on the south side of 528 till it hits 95, there's proposed overpass, and then it's going to kind of create an overpass for 528 with a little bit of a tunnel, and then run east and connect where their tracks
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to come down. So it's, it's on the, ‸ it's not even close. It's, it's
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Oh, on the other side,
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That's correct. Yeah.
I saw all the.
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bit past 95 is where they'll do the over, well, the raised 528 will go up under, if you will.
Well, I saw all those railroad ties staged just north of Walmart.
Yes.
And so I thought it's gonna, it's probably gonna be close to that
location.
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And I mean, they're currently running from West Palm Beach to Miami.
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counties to the south are being resolved. And they are now in the process of further expanding, you know, and they've already, it's already
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All right. Thank you very much.
Thank you, sir.
Any other comments from the public? I didn't. Okay. We're gonna ‸ go ahead and close it to the public and reopen it back to the council.
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I do
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question. Hold
on.
I'm
sorry, Brenda.
That's
okay.
Do
we
have a timeframe as far as when we can expect to actually see some site clearing and
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eight years ago.
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they're anxious to get the out parcel infrastructure and out parcel work started because they have potential buyers for several of the out parcels. Okay.
So the commercial lots, they've already got an interest in the commercial lots. And so we'll see that well before we see the residential portion.
Okay. All
right. Thank you.
Okay. ‸ We got a motion
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Aye. Aye. Opposed?
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It
passes unanimously. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Dodie. Uh, we're going to move on to council business and that brings us to
uh, uh,
approving, uh, approval of, uh, ‸ reduction of a code enforcement lien for the property located at 1050 Grove Avenue from 32,475 to $1,440.79 as recommended by staff and the code enforcement board. Chief.
Yes, Mr. Mayor.
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2016.
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property were high grass and weeds,
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outdoor storage and fence and disrepair. On December 8th of 2017,
uh,
the property was bought into compliance. Uh, let me also add that during that time, the current owner was not the owner of the property when it was
cited
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2019,
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reduced to 14, uh, $1,440.79 based on the fact that, uh, they had been brought into compliance and it was under, uh, a new owner. Okay. I just,
just one thing. This, this property was purchased with the liens attached to it, right?
Chief.
Yes,
sir.
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If you'd like to come forward, you want to speak on that item?
Members of the council,
my
name is Dan Barber, uh,
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Merritt Island. I, I own that property. I am just here to, uh, answer any questions. If you, if you might have them, uh, we've brought it into compliance as, as was mentioned. Plus a couple other things too.
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that we repaired, replaced the door and fixed the soffits. Um,
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the city.
Well, sir, I got a couple of comments.
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when that item came up and I looked at some of the pictures and, uh, it was all right. I actually went out to the property today, earlier today, and then I revisited before the meeting tonight. And, um, I looked at this property and
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I'm not familiar with those.
And now I was very disappointed that this item actually came before the council without some of those items being corrected. I understand they weren't a part of the original code violations, but they're still existing right now. I,
uh, on
that property, um, for the life of me, I mean, I,
I
just, you know, people buy these properties with these liens on them and, uh, I understand that, you know, you bring them up to par and that's fine and dandy, but you know what? I can't personally, uh, forgive liens on a piece of property ‸ until all violations or any violations on that property have been brought up to par. I mean, there's, there are
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I was out there. There's some, uh, one of
them
was, uh, ‸ high weeds and grass. The grass actually needs to be cut right now. It's at a level there, um, ‸ some screen issues. Uh,
uh,
there's, um, uh,
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disc. Uh, so there's some issues that are probably should have been written up by code enforcement once they went out there and took some additional pictures. Uh, we have a lot of residents that are facing these issues right now with their homes. And, uh, but I think that if we're gonna enforce the rules, we need to enforce the rules across the board and hold everybody to that same standard. And, uh, I just think this item should come back. I would like to table this item and have it come back once those issues have been corrected. I support the code board and I know what they do.
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I actually went out to that property. I wanted to see
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my eyes and, uh, and I will be doing that in the future.
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I wasn't happy with what I saw there. I just wasn't happy at all because ‸ I was a part of the chapter six that,
um,
um, when we first brought it, um, and start doing all the modifications and the changes throughout the city and, and start being a little proactive with our code. We're
all
our code enforcement, uh, issues.
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And I, I just knowing that you bought the property with, with liens on it and there's still current issues on it right now that you haven't been cited for yet. They should have been cited, but they weren't cited. And, uh, I just can't with good conscience, uh, approve this. And, uh, I'd like to sit table and then come back to us after those, uh, ‸ improvements have been made. You know, I, I respect the
cold
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board, but I know what I saw and I know what I see. And, uh, we expect better
and I are
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we expect better from our residents and we expect ‸ better from individuals that come in and purchase property in the city of Cocoa.
Yes, sir.
Um,
and nothing against you.
No, I understand that. And I, I'm happy to do, if I had known what those issues were, they would already be taken care of. Yeah.
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to do. It wasn't relevant to when we, when we met here that I want to do, uh, to the inside terrazzo and some kitchen work, but I can't do that with, if I can't get the money to do it.
Yeah.
I'm happy to take care of whatever
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you. I, I just don't know what they are.
No, I can't. I,
I,
I
haven't moved forward with anything ‸ because I'm waiting,
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Yeah. It was, ‸ it was already postponed once.
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those issues are going to be taken care of because I, like I said,
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a number of years
so
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for the residents that live over there. And,
and,
um, but I just need to know that, you know, that these issues are going to be taken care of. I mean,
I,
I just. We're rather, I would like to see something in there that contingent on those issues being taken care of, you know, we will forgive them. But you know, those issues need to be taken care of that. I will do it.
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I will do it.
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I got with the city manager this morning. I ‸ showed him some, well, it
was
‸ yesterday, I believe. And
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to be addressed. It's ‸ nothing too major, but it's, it's some stuff that need to be addressed.
I'm happy to do it. I really, yeah, we
just, we're just trying to change the makeup of our city and we're trying to do it across the board.
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And we renovate quite a few.
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And others. 800 Fisk. We, we renovate a lot of those properties there. Okay. So, you know, all I need to know is, is what concerns you. I will take care of it right away. Okay.
Uh, ‸ so chief, can you make sure that whoever's,
um,
responsible for this particular case get with him and possibly the mayor, um, to work out the issue so we can.
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I think that,
uh,
but I,
I
just want to make sure I want some guarantee maybe in the future we can start putting something in, uh, and writing that, uh, you know, certain things need to be taken care of after we go out and actually do a full inspection. And because even though you, we wipe away and some liens are gone, you know, and you
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certain issues, if there's still existing issues that hadn't been addressed yet, then we need to make sure those, uh, issues are addressed.
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and
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it's not acceptable. Not anymore.
One of the reasons, one of the other reasons I have not been able to do anything further is
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and I have to get a permit from the city of Buffalo and approval before I can get the power company to go up, put the meter back in. So I get power to see if what else needs to be done. Right. So I'm waiting on that now.
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I'm, I'm, I'm actually going to take your word for it. And I'm going to remind you of this because, uh, we, we just, we're changing. We're trying to change what's been happening in the city.
I understand that.
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And, uh, so, uh, any other council members,
um,
councilman going to see your light on. Yeah.
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because I was two by the property, um, this morning. I've already spoke with our code manager.
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and telling him that the grass needs to be, needs to be kept up. It needs to be cut regularly, um, going forward. And if that doesn't happen, we would go out and go through the process again, recite the property and, and do the same thing again. Yeah.
And there was that one issue over the, the one in the back,
you,
you know what I'm talking about.
Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, there's a sill outside. Yes. And that's another thing we have, as I said, we have no power right now.
Okay.
Um, Mr. City attorney.
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um, and have code enforcement go out there and just take a look at making sure,
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because
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uh, satisfaction, not only do you have to bring the violations, uh, that were previously cited, uh, and subject to the lien in compliance, but in order to be presented to the city council for consideration, there, there cannot be any current code violations as well. And then, and
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um, it's kind of premature to act on, on this application at this time, in my opinion.
Okay. Okay. Any other comments?
I make a motion that we table until the next meeting.
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I'm sure knowing Mr. Barber for several years and he has an excellent reputation in the community, I'm sure he'll get it taken care of. Thank
you. We'll figure it out. Okay. We got a motion by deputy mayor Warner
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All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. It passes unanimously. Thank you, sir.
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Yes, sir.
Thank you.
Okay. We're going to move on to, um, our second item on the council business
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training for committee members from a total of four hours of combined training with two hours in the dispatcher center and two hours of ride along with our city police officers,
um,
to a minimum of four hours of riding along with our city police officers. Chief.
Yes, Mr. Mayor.
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Excuse me. Chief.
After,
uh, the resolution was approved by council, um, we went back and looked, um, and spoke with FDLE and looked at, uh, issues that we may have involving our criminal justice information, uh, service and what they, the requirements they impose on us as far as who can be in the buildings, what you have to do, any additional stuff that would have to be done. Uh, based on this information, uh, it is our recommendation that instead of including the communications center or dispatch center that there just be a
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um, the committee members per month.
You know, I was looking at this and I was thinking about this and I was thinking four hour ride along per month. These are, that's a lot and these are volunteers ‸ and we have boards where individuals make some very crucial recommendations to the council. We have a planning and zoning board, our code boards and a board of adjustments. And, uh, a lot of those individuals come in and they get no other training other than what they're thrown, you know, they're thrown in there. And I don't think that, uh, they sit down and get talked to at all about what their responsibilities are. And I think to require for this committee
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have to spend four hours riding along with the police officers every month. I don't understand how that's going to benefit them. I mean, I don't see it. You know, maybe four hours, uh, every
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my annually or something like that, but
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And it's going to be hard to actually keep people on this board. If we do something like that,
I
just, I ‸ don't agree with that, but I'm just, it's just my personal opinion. So,
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Well, I just wanted to say that, um, the time that I spent riding with the police was really valuable. So of course, I think we still want to, we still want to make sure that any volunteer ‸ involved does that. And, um,
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um, because I think it kind of changes your perspective. But the four hours with the preparation for the meeting, because I know what I'm finding in order to be really prepared, really ready for these meetings, I basically
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as much time as I spent at the meeting. So even this meeting is like really six, seven hours of your time. Um, and
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So, um, I would really like to see,
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good thing. But if that could be reduced after that, I think it would be much more reasonable, an opportunity for us to maintain a high caliber in our volunteer, um, group.
So
I'd like to see it reduced to, um, two hours a month following that first orientation.
Yes. Okay.
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four hours may be excessive, but definitely for the orientation portion, I think we need that because of,
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that conversation and relationship with the officers, I think is very, very important. Um, but we also do not want to lose volunteers as well. Um, we want to make sure this, that this, uh, particular committee,
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based on time. Um, so I'm definitely for, for the two hours. Um, I, I think four hours is excessive.
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be four hours to get them acquainted because they'd be in two hours, they can end up in an accident scene and be there
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and what
do
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they accomplish? Oh, gee, I want to go some more. So I think we should live out four hours and if they want to go home after two hours,
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‸ Actually, they can go home anytime they want. Oh, yeah, tell the officer, bring me back to my car.
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Absolutely. So
if they're out there for four hours and they get tired after three, could you please bring me back to my vehicle?
And
that's it. There's nothing in stone that says, you know, they're not getting paid so
they
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we can't force them to stay there for four hours. Some people that want to, that like it out there should be, ‸ have the opportunity to go for four hours and if you don't want to, after two hours
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to my vehicle? Like I said,
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scene or an investigation and they're sitting in the cafe two hours,
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they accomplish? Nothing. That's my own personal opinion because there's nothing in stone that says they have to be here for hours.
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we're going.
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That's my opinion.
‸ I
don't necessarily think four hours a month is excessive because you don't have to do it all at once.
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hours a month as volunteers. I don't see a lot of
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to the police department.
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agree with Councilwoman Koss if you've never been out there and you don't really know what's going on, it not only change your perspective of what the police officers do, and it does that every time you go on a call with them. It also changes your perspective and changes what you see of our city. Most of us are only out running around the city in daylight or early evening hours and you don't necessarily see what goes on the rest of the time.
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what our police department does and what our police officers do. And the only way they can do that is to have a good understanding of what our police officers deal with. So I have no objections to doing an initial four hours and then two hours a month because personally I think that once they've been out there for a few hours, you're probably going to find them out there more frequently than ‸ just a couple of hours. I mean, you get out there and you intend to stay an hour or two and you end up being out there six hours because there's a lot going on and
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exciting and you don't want to go home
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you find out what happens at the end of that call.
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You know, maybe I'm a little confused because ‸ my understanding of this board, of this committee,
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how to do anything.
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them and some, um, ‸ and they, um, and the chief and officers when there's some issues that, uh, that arise in our community that they, some of the community have, uh, some issues with or need to be addressed. So, um, this is not a deal where the officers are going to be told how to perform their job. They're ‸ professionals. They're trained to do this and they have to think that individuals would come in on the committee and tell them how to do their jobs.
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Yeah,
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They don't have any
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powers. Uh, and I think that's, uh, ‸ that's a problem. I think a lot of people are getting confused about what this committee is, it's going to be about. And, uh, this is just to address some concerns of our residents and the citizens, um, when it comes to some issues that arise in our community, ‸ that's it. That's it.
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the individuals that are on this committee or that been submitted for this committee, they're officers of the courts already, you know,
um, uh,
few of my lawyers. And I mean, I, if they don't know what police officers do,
I
think all of us know what police officers do, but I think as a volunteer, you know, to get out there and put in four hours, I think it's, it's crazy to a month. They require that. I think we're going to lose members. We're going to lose committee members. And, uh, it's going to defeat the purpose of this whole committee. And, uh, just once again, that's just my opinion.
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So I got a question for you, mayor. Do you have an issue with the initial, um, ‸ orientation?
Oh,
no, I think that, I think that's great that they, you know, uh, I believe that four hours initial orientation is fine. And then maybe, um, your concern is after. Yeah. Afterwards. It's just, uh, just continuously. It can be, you know, I mean, what, what more are you going to get out there? Okay. You know,
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Yeah. That's even, I mean, if I'm a volunteer, that's like, wow, you know, I got to come in and sit in a meeting,
‸ considering you're going to spend several hours in preparation.
‸ and you'll be in a meeting for several hours. And then I got to go ride for two hours and, you know, and I got a job and other stuff. And this is volunteer. I think it's a little bit much for volunteers.
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not getting paid. But ‸ once again, that's just my opinion.
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motion or, or any recommendations or.
Well, I think, I think you have a point.
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boards as well on
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Um, ‸ thinking that, uh, the other boards that we do have don't, don't require any. I think that's what you're getting at is that other boards that we have within the city don't require that. Um, so why does this particular board require? I, I, I think our, my, my, my recommendation is the initial four hours.
Okay. Well, I'll tell you what the chairs, chairs gonna make a motion. I'm gonna make a motion that we, um, we approve this item, but with the certain modifications that we do the four hours initial ride with PD. Um, and then, um, after that, there will be no additional riding, but
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Um, if there are new members that come on, whatever ‸ case might be. But, um, I think initially we need to just starting off, we'll do the four hours and then just see how it goes from there. And if we need to do some additional training or whatever, we'll do that. But, um, just, we need to just get this up and running and going without all this set of stuff.
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Okay.
Second.
Yeah. Motion by the chair and a second by
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saying aye. Aye. Opposed? It passes unanimously. We're gonna ‸ move on to item number three. Approve resolution number 2019-011 adopting the East Central Florida ‸ Regional Resilience Action Plan. Councilwoman Cost.
Yes. Thank you. I'll just give a little background on this. The East Central Florida Regional, uh, Planning Council has an initiative to develop this resiliency action plan all along the, um, you know, in East Central Florida.
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preparedness.
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So this resolution will resolve us as a municipality to work in partnership with other municipalities and with the council, um, to see this happen. So let me go ahead and let me read the goals of it just to give people a sense rather than the whereas is which are, is that okay? That's right. The resolution? Yes. Um, so there are four sections which is where the goals are, are ‸ and the things that we will, then there are also 20 objectives. So these are all, if you go online, you can read these and then encourage you to, because these are the things that we want to work toward and our sustainability advisory committee is working on right now. Uh, ‸ promote leadership, education, and empowerment in government, public and private sectors to foster the implementation of resiliency strategies across disciplines and communities.
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social equity and justice in preparation for recovery from stressors and shocks.
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of cross-disciplinary plans, policies, and strategies to protect the health, safety, and economic welfare of residents, businesses, and visitors through recognition that natural disasters, changes to ‸ climate and human manipulation require careful consideration of when and how to develop infrastructure, natural resources, and a built environment that can withstand and adapt to these changes. And section four is to create resilient communities by facilitating programs, opportunities, and community-wide education pertaining to local sustainability, disaster response, and climate change mitigation strategies.
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component of the planning council and we actually have a grant.
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resilient. A couple weeks ago they had a workshop which was I found really informative.
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to see more participant involvement in that and there will be more workshops in the future so I hope that people keep an eye open for that. So with that I would like to make a motion to pass this resolution.
I got questions before we can add. We know we have an emergency management that for
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Yes we do have an emergency management in terms of both in the city and we obviously ‸ work in conjunction or ‸ coordination with the county. Part of the resiliency action plan at least even at the workshop, we did discuss emergency management in terms of response.
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mean when you think of the the devastation impact the devastation that occurred in the waterfront, if we were to rebuild and identify areas that we could be more resilient and
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there was very a lot of, there was, yes I agree it would be nice to see more members out and participating, but it was, there was a couple opportunities for, to discuss you know. Okay thank you. Thank you. Okay.
And this really focuses on the risk reduction and building the resilience. Storm and emergencies.
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Warner. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed. It passes unanimously.
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Yes ma'am.
We have members of the sustainability advisory committee in the audience. If you wouldn't mind standing. I think it's Trina still here.
And
I know Trina was a part of this original board for this resiliency planning. This group has been working really hard. There are more members too by the way. But they have been working really hard over the last year.
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Which is not an easy thing to do under sunshine. And the limited amount of meetings and staff resources that we have. So
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just like to thank the brain power that we have going into that. And we'll look forward to that plan and them working with this group.
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Okay we're going to move on to our next item. Which is under city business. Review. Community action related to McFarland Park.
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Yes ma'am.
Can I ask under section 112-3143 of the Florida Statutes. For who it's a member to vote on a measure.
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I would like to recuse myself. I have the form that I can give to the city clerk. And I'd like to step down from the dais.
Yes ma'am. During this discussion. Okay.
But anyway this is item number one in the city business. Review. Community action related to McFarland Park. ‸ Provide directions as deemed appropriate by the city council. Mr.
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Thank you Mr. Mayor. Members of council. You have the agenda item before you. I'd just like to provide a little bit of background to get you to this point where we find ourselves now. As prior action was taken on this item under the former council. And to ensure that all members are properly informed ‸ and understand the present situation that we find ourselves. As you may be aware. August 2018 of this past year. City staff was approached by Brevard County staff. As there was a request by some local area residents to meet. And discuss some safety related issues with McFarland Park. Now
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On the east side of US 1. Just adjacent to the Indian River Lagoon. Provides access for boaters. Small vessel craft launching. And then there's also a picnic table where folks can. Enjoy ‸ the views of the river. Members approached the county initially for gate closure. As the park closes at dusk. The county staff began doing that. There were still security related issues. That were mentioned. To the city. As well as the county. At our joint meeting. And also at that meeting. The issue related to the. Ownership of McFarland Park. Was brought to our attention. Once learning this information. The city undertook a title search. To determine. The ownership of the park.
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City council meeting. And. Uh. You know. A background was provided. Not only related to the title work.
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operation related to the park. The city and the county. And. Key to that discussion. Was the title search that was obtained by the city. For the park lot. And it revealed that the city had no recorded ownership interest in the property.
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Applies
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That's a. That's a very key distinction. And I want to make sure that. All members of council are fully aware that. You know. Whether it was in the 1950s 1960s. It doesn't necessarily matter. The present situation that we found ourselves in upon learning this. We were in the same situation back in 1924. There's. There's nothing that.
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There's no history to be found as to why. You know. The. The city and the county were operating this
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As it clearly. Appears. That the. The lot is owned by the original developer.
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Which is a. Dissolved Florida corporation. The lot owners.
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Actually have a private easement.
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For use of the property. For park purposes ‸ only. That private easement. Runs in favor of each lot.
And
generally cannot be separated. Conveyed or terminated. By the lot owners.
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Which would require all of the lot owners. To agree to. It can't be severed from each lot. Based on this information.
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Was to proceed with. Considering the adoption of a resolution. Disclaiming any city ownership interest.
In
the park. In order to correct. The Brevard County property appraisers database. But also to provide the lot owners.
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Sufficient time to discuss. Amongst themselves. How they would like to move forward. Given the information. That was revealed in the title report. At that time.
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That it is in. The city's interest. To expeditiously move this along.
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And that exists. Because the city. You know. Operating and maintaining. In ‸ concert with the county. For a number of years. As far as records indicate.
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Amongst the neighborhood. And.
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For the lot owners.
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Which I attended. Two of the three meetings.
That
I. I had heard of. Both meetings. Around 100 attendees. A lot of the discussion. Centered around. Questions related to. The ownership of the park. Is. A lot of ‸ the lot owners. This is the first time. They're hearing the information. And obviously. This is a. A very. Can be a very confusing. Issue. Certainly. Complicated. At the least.
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One. Requesting that. The. The city. Disclaim all interest. And return that property. Back to the lot owners.
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And then the second petition. Is. Is a request for. City Council to consider. You know. A manner in which to. Provide public access to that park. And continue to operate it. As it was. Now there was a third meeting. Held this past Saturday. It's my understanding. I did not attend the meeting. And so I'm not. Certain as to the outcome. Of that meeting. Uh. And what the discussion was. But. Uh. ‸ Due to the information obtained. In the title report.
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the city's historical use. Of the park property. City staff believes. That the cloud on title. Currently exists. Regarding the park property. So absent a successful. Court action by the city. The city should formally. Remove the existing cloud on title. By recommendation. Oh. Excuse me. Officially recognizing. That the city has no legal interest. In the park. As such city staff recommendation. Is that the status quo. Is not an acceptable arrangement. For the city. And the lot owners. Therefore under the circumstances.
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And related legal options. The first option. Is to proceed as previously directed. By the city council on October 10th 2018. And proceed with the adoption of a resolution. Disclaiming any future city interest. In the park property. That resolution could be presented. To city council at a regular meeting. In the near future. And upon adoption of that resolution. That resolution would be recorded. In the official public records.
Of
Brevard County. Which would ensure the city's position. Regarding its disclaimed interest. In the park.
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lots there.
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Is that a lot of the. Owners that purchased. In the subdivision. Were completely unaware. And their title searches didn't reveal. That they had. A plat dedication. To a public. Or to a ‸ park. In their neighborhood. As a result. The city will no longer. Be maintaining the park property. We've since. Abandoned that property. And I believe that. The entry gate. Is ‸ locked. Not by a city or county lock.
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For maintaining. Their private easement. Over the park. Lot pursuant to the plat dedication. Or. The second option.
And
there's a. An a or. An a and a b. To this option. ‸ The second option. Is to proceed with legal action.
In
court. To attempt to pursue. A city interest in the park property. For public park purposes. Based on any. Applicable legal theories. Such as. A quiet title action.
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For public park purpose. This cause of action. Will be based on several legal theories.
And
the application of numerous legal factors. And will be an extremely fact intensive case. To successfully prove. We all know that. The facts of this case.
Some
of them. Aren't even known. To members here tonight. As to how we found ourselves. In this situation. So. When they. When we're talking about. Fact intensive. We could be looking through. Newspaper records. Dating back to 1924 manually. Uh. So it's. It's extremely. Time consuming. Uh. If a successful result in court. Uh. Or. A successful result in court. Would be uncertain. If successful. It's possible. The city. May only obtain a. Public dedication. Or easement. That will have to coexist. With the private. Lot owners. Now. As we know. That may be. Difficult to manage. Certainly. You know. Even among. The leadership team. Here at the city. Trying to agree. On a.
A
very. A small item. Sometimes can be difficult. Let alone.
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That. May change. From time to time. Uh. However. The city's dedication. Or easement.
In
the park.
For
the benefit.
Of
the public. Will likely have to be exercised. In a manner. Such as not to. Prejudice. Or unduly interfere. With that.
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Each and every lot owner. At this time. It's uncertain. How a.
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200 different lot owners.
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Uh. That would be available. Uh. For city council. Is eminent domain. The city would seek to obtain.
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And acquire the private park.
Plat
easement. From the lot owners. The city. Would be required to pay. Reasonable compensation. To the fee title owner. And each lot owner. For the value of the. Property
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acquired. By the city.
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Incurred by the. Fee title owner. And each lot owner.
In
the eminent domain. Action. Uh. It's unknown. Uh. If the city. Would be successful. In that action. Uh. Of course. There is a financial cost. To that action. As well as. Uh. For the. The other. Item under option two. Uh. For the easement. The public easement. Um. With that. Uh. You know. I'll answer any questions. That. City council. May have related to the item.
And. And that cost can be huge. And. I'm a. I'm a true believer. That. Uh. That god has a. Great sense of humor. Because.
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And. Uh. And I. I say. You have a sense of humor. Because. Here I am. Right here. You got those. Who want the park. You know. And wanted to. Be kept private. And then you have those. That hey. Saying. I don't want that liability. And that responsibility. And. And I understand. Both sides of it. I
mean.
I. I truly understand. And. We're in a position. That's pretty tough. And then at the same time. We're looking at the cost. Aspect of this. I mean. We're. We're talking about. Quite a bit. I mean. Uh.
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There. Maybe a million or more. You know. And. Uh. Or. Or.
Or
several millions. And. Uh. I just don't know. Where
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go with this. I mean. It's. It's. Um. I hear everyone. And. I understand. I don't know. If any other council members. Want to. Chime in. But. Um. Council. I'm Deputy Mayor Warner.
I. Um. Like you. I'm kind of surprised. That we found ourselves. In this situation. Because I've been
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And I've enjoyed that park. Since the 70s.
And
I always thought it was the city park. And. Everybody in my neighborhood. Who's been going there. Since they were small children. Thought it was a city park. But now that we. Know. That. We don't have as a city. Any legal interest in the park. I think we need to do the right thing. And.
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the park. Have their park back. And let them. As the owners of the park. Decide how they want to move forward. Um. Once they make a decision. If they want to involve the city. In. Whatever future the park has. Um. That's up to them. I would definitely be open to. Working out an agreement with them. Or. Um. Taking. Control of the park back.
If
that's what. The majority of the owners.
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Um. I think there's a. Definite public benefit. To having the park. Um. I also think. There probably needs. To be some changes. Made there. Whether. The current owners maintain it. Or the city does. But I don't think.
Anybody
can move forward. Until we do the right thing. And clear the. Clouds that is currently. On the title. To the park. So. I think whatever happens in the future. Whether they move forward. Or they come back to us. And ask us to. To deal with this. Right now. The thing that we need to do is. Take an action to. Clear the title on this property.
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So that they can do something else. With the park. By us clearing. The cloud on the title. That will make. Whatever steps they take next. Easier for them. Like I said. If you know. Six months or a year from now. They come back and say. Hey. You know. We as a group. Have made this decision. And we want to. Lease it to the city. Or we want to give it to the city. Or whatever. I'm ‸ fine with that. But right now. I just think we need to do the right thing. By these residents. And clear this title. So that they can move forward. And make a decision. ‸ As a group of property owners.
Thank you ma'am. I got four cards here.
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If you guys are all right with that.
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If
you can please come up.
I'll relate. We'll try time.
Okay. Barry. Manjeli. Maybe I'm looking at this wrong.
Yeah.
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There's some mention here. Previously by Matt. As far as a plat easement.
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And
the fact that there was no title found. For the city. I just want to get a clarification. Because my understanding. ‸ If in fact. This park. Is a quote plat easement. And there is no title. Okay. How can you say that anybody. City or otherwise. Owns the park. Since the developer of the park.
Of
the park. Okay. Since the developer
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That corporation has been dissolved. Okay. And there is no record of anything.
In
terms of a title. To the park. Being passed on. I just like some clarification. As to what this truly means. In terms of quote. The gray area. Of ownership of the park.
Let me ‸ address that.
If
you wouldn't mind Matt. The property. Was platted.
In
the 1920s. By a development company. That's now a Florida Dissolved Corporation. In that plat. The developer. Dedicated to all of the lot owners. Of ‸ Carlton Terrace. A park.
Private
park easement. The developer. As far as we can determine. Based on the title report. That was prepared. Never conveyed fee simple title. To anyone. By a legal instrument. That's recorded. In the public records. ‸ Absent any other. You know evidence. The title. The fee title. Of the property. A.K.A. The actual ownership.
Of
that. Of that property. Still appears to be. In the hands of. The Dissolved Florida Corporation. The original. The original. The developer. From the 1920s. Nowhere. In the plat document. Nowhere. In the official records. Of Brevard County. Is there either. A dedication. Of a public easement.
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Or a conveyance. Of fee ‸ simple title. Of that property. To the city of Coco. There's no recorded. Uh.
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That we could find.
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In
the title company. Could find. Regarding this property.
Thank you sir. Um. Does that answer your question sir?
Um. Thank you for that. Explanation.
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Infer from that.
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For anyone else.
I'm not sure I understand that question.
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than.
Well in other words. What I'm saying is. Like for instance. I have a. I have a title deed to my house. And it specifically. Says this plot.
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If in the case. Of the Carlton Terrace Park. There is no title. No deed. That ‸ can be found. Anywhere. That would say. The ownership.
Of
that.
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Belongs to. Either the city. Or anyone else. Can one infer. That there is no ownership. Per se. Of that park. That it is in fact. An easement. That can be used. By the Carlton Terrace owners. As. As a park. But that you cannot necessarily. And this is something. That may need to be determined later. That you cannot necessarily. Infer. That you own. Part. Or parcel.
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that park. Just trying to. Make sure.
If your question is. Whether the lot owners. Own. That property. In fee title.
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Thank you. That's exactly what I wanted.
They have a public. They have a. They have a private easement. Right.
Okay. Mr. Troy.
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For the time here.
Thank you. Sir.
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Really. All the way through. Right from the beginning. In the August meeting.
And
the things that have occurred. Over time. I guess I take some. Some difference. With. With some of the terms. That I see. You know. I certainly understand. That the last. Statutory title. That was held. Was held. By Coco Land Development. Company.
As
such. But they in turn. Entered into. An agreement. A written agreement. By recording. The plat. Itself. Within the county records. And they dedicated. That lot. To each. And every.
Single
one. Of. The lot owners.
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That dedication. Goes to perpetuity. It lasts. As long.
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In itself. Exists. Where we have that. Whatever term. That we wish to use. Whether it's an easement. Whether it's ownership. Whether it's common law. Deed. That runs with. The property itself.
And
we feel. Very strongly. With that. You know. The. We think it's a. We don't think. We know.
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And we take great pride in it. It certainly has. Its problems. It will continue. To have problems. We hope. That is with other. Communities around.
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Especially with policing. Actions and other things. That as good. As our local. Constabulary is.
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To the ‸ degree. That we would like. And that the ability. For them. With the manpower. That they have. Probably is pretty far fetched. As well. With great respect. To our local police department. If we look at what has occurred. Here. At least since the year 2000.
Or
so.
When
I bought my property. And the continued issues. And problems with the park. Of which some will downplay those. And others will play them up. And say hey. This is really a bad place. Frankly.
It
isn't a bad place. But it has its issues. The things that we have seen. Since the. Since on October 10th. When this council. Ordered the locking. And the closure of the gate. The traffic is down. Within our neighborhood. Within on Coquina.
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Probably 20 to 30 percent. Do I have exact numbers? No. But we see it daily. We know that since. Personally. I've been involved. ‸ In cleaning up. And trying to take care.
Of
the park itself. Mowing it. Working with it. Since. When it was originally. Locked up. The following week. That I went down. To mow. The grass. I picked up. 11 hypodermic needles. Laying within. The parking area itself. I could go in. You know. And embellish this somewhat. Or extend it. That really isn't. The big issue either. The big issue still. Is that. Each. Of the lot owners.
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‸ Was dedicated. A. One.
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Portion of that. When they bought. Their properties. Now that number. Will. Will vacillate. Just a little. Or it will oscillate. Up and down.
Just
a little. But.
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This. This easement. Per se. In perpetuity. And we would strongly. ‸ At about. I think we have.
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Okay. Versus. Versus. About 26. That have. Want to give it away.
Thank you sir.
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Um. Next we have Mr. Charles Carrington.
Good evening. Charles Carrington.
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well. So I have a background with real estate and more of
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to have. And this I can tell you from experience is the kind of problem that a group of real estate lawyers will talk about over lunch and laugh about and maybe the one stuck with it will cry about. It's a complicated legal. situation. It's not unique though. This this plat reference is is is really not a for someone who examines title regularly it's not uncommon for the developer in plotting a piece of property retain the underlying fee simple title to a piece of property and then create rights in the residence for that piece of property might be for a park might be for.
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It's not unusual.
It's not the
ideal way to do it. It's since the 70s and 80s. There's another way to do it.
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We all have to keep in mind that this plat was done in 1924. It's actually pretty dang sophisticated for 1924. But no one should be surprised that there wasn't an ancillary deed to each of the residents in 1924. The fact of the matter is there's a clear intention of the the dedicator the developer to create this for the residents. And so this this is a type of situation where if you had a group of real estate lawyers they would agree each and every one of them that there's no question that the residents whether you want to call it an easement or part owner. They have the park so the rights derived from that plat there's a problem with the petition that's been submitted by the folks that would like the city involved with the park and that is that the rights they derived were for a private park. If you read the petition closely what they're proposing is something different public access
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public park. They don't have the rights to offer up what it is that you know they're purporting to offering petition. So legally I believe and I mean
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petition itself is a nullity for that reason.
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no legal authority to propose. And so certainly beyond that they're not representing us those of the residents that are in favor of a private park. I want to submit a check-in sheet for the last meeting it evidences that approximately 96 of the residents are in favor of keeping the park as a private park. And so I'd like to provide that too.
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you. And you ‸ know ‸ that ends it other than you know I ‸ would encourage you ‸ to go with the recommendation of staff here which is to go with the ‸ October 10 2018 decision.
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the last card I had if you can. Give us your name and address please.
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Hi thank you. My name is Linda Dolphin and my address is [address] and I'm just surprised tonight to learn for the first time from the city attorney that we don't really have an ownership interest. We really just have an easement and I wonder if there's any ability to comment on whether that would mean that we would be liable as owners within
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since we don't really have a clear ownership title. Any thoughts.
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I
do respect that can't comment
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that. And if the council wouldn't move forward and disclaimed interest in the park I can't even relate on how the lot owners would move forward with their easement rights. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you
ma'am.
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I
think ‸ my main concern is the division inside of Carton Terrace no matter what decision is made today. There's still going to be that division tomorrow.
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By being on council I speak for an entire city of citizens and I'm not comfortable with having the citizens pay residents for the portion of the park to be public. I do not like the idea of a
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being private unless it's in
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gated community. That's how I feel personally. That's just my opinion. I would love for it to be public but in this situation it's very very difficult.
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It's something I'm not comfortable with going down that road as ‸ for the city. But ‸ I just hope and wish no matter what happens today the residents can come together. We talk about a park. Okay. This is something that I feel like you should be able to have ‸ at least a decent conversation about it. Agree to disagree but
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have to deal with this part moving forward. It was the last meeting I went to was an awesome meeting.
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the fact that you're able to come to the meeting and meet together and argue back and forth about what's right and what's wrong. I love that that's democracy that that's a beautiful thing. But tomorrow you have to come together about this issue. But I'm not comfortable with the city taking ownership at this point based on I don't know what the amount may be.
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I do not know. And I'm not comfortable with the ‸ citizens, you know, the person being open for that. ‸ That's just my opinion.
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said and I'm the same feeling.
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at the October 10th meeting about, you know, when we didn't know who owned it and this and that. And I don't believe the city should get involved with this and I think we should turn it over to the citizens and let them handle it.
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work it out. It's their part and then let them handle it and keep the city out of it completely.
I
read the things and I still don't know how we got involved in it.
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No, ‸ I wasn't born then. But, you know, 1924, that's a long way. Some of us have been, you know, I'm sure maybe some of you have been here.
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Only Mr. Dahl. No, I'm only kidding. Mr.
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probably the only one that had been here at that time. So I would say just turn it over to the homeowners and let them handle it. Thank you.
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I guess I just have a question for us, definitely for the people who are potentially trying to get some sort of a homeowner association organized.
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park? Who's going to? ‸ That's my only concern. I don't live in the area, but I have
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that if there's separation now, what happens when you turn somebody down because you don't like them this week about having a birthday party at the park? That certain issues that may seem simple, but it could be a big deal down the road.
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All right.
Hopefully so. All right. Thank you, sir. Deputy Mayor Warner.
‸ I ‸ want to reiterate that ‸ by removing ourselves and passing a resolution that says, you know, we're going to, or as they said, following option one that ‸ the staff recommends and removing ourselves and clearing the cloud that may be on the title. We give the neighborhood an opportunity to move forward and do whatever it is that they choose to do. Personally, if I
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decision to keep the park, I would start looking at one of these kayak or canoeing clubs and maybe partner with them and ‸ make it ‸ a place where you might get some ‸ people to come in and enjoy and maybe lease it and ‸ not have the expense of maintaining it. You know, ‸ lease it to one of these clubs ‸ and make your money back. But I just would like to see the city step out of it for now until the neighborhood comes to some decisions. And like I said, you know, you all are
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some future point, you decide you need our help in some way, shape, or form.
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But for now, I think we need to make these people whole and give them the opportunity to move forward.
And I'm in support of that.
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And I would love for you guys to work it out.
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going on in life today and in this country. And here we are about a park.
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But I ‸ just think that it's something that I hope and pray that we all work out and you all work out.
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turn the park over back to the citizens of, uh, common terrace and dissolve the city of any partnership ownership or whatever you want to call with that park.
‸ We
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I'll second that.
Second by councilwoman Warner.
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All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Aye. It passes unanimously.
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We're going to move on to our multiple year contracts.
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Yes, sir, mayor. This is item number two under city business multi-year contracts. I need to
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the scope of services with Wharton Smith, Incorporated of Sanford, Florida, for the construction manager at risk services for the chemical conversion and reliability improvements project at the Dow Water Treatment Plant project number WS 1404 and to approve it as a multi-year contract.
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two providers for construction services for water improvements, heavy civil type work. This particular agenda item is actually approving basically a task order which is within the city manager signing authority but we're bringing it before you anyway. Along with the percentages of overhead and profit that ‸ would be for the future project ‸ that's currently under design. So Wharton Smith's construction team will combine with the engineering design team and city staff
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At that point we get a guaranteed maximum price from them ‸ in which they apply those percentages which is what we selected them based on. If we like those prices we go forward with Wharton Smith into the construction phase. If we don't Wharton is then not allowed to bid on it and it goes out to the street in the normal procurement process. Okay. So this is an
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out which had to do with the cost of consulting as well as more importantly the cost of the percentages of overhead profit on ‸ the large projects that will be coming up.
Okay. Thank you sir. What is the wishes of the council?
Motion to approve.
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We get a motion by Deputy
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Did you want to say something?
‸ No.
Okay. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. ‸ Opposed. It passes ‸ unanimously. Item number two on ‸ multiple year contracts. Mr. Utilities Director.
Yes sir. Actually item number three is to approve the proposal by Connect Consulting Incorporated of high school Springs Florida for hydrological hydrogeological services for wellfield
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services utilizing ‸ the
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services. Council has seen task orders before with CCI. They also do our regular normal reef our wellfield rehab work. The contract was already bid by Palm Coast. We've been piggybacking with them for a number of years probably four or five years now. But this particular task order is specifically for our
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storage recovery wells, which are used in concert when we use
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It is the water we store ‸ underground in the aquifer and to help us level out ‸ our water availability when the reservoir level changes. And I'm here to answer any other questions you may have, if any, on the proposal.
Thank you, sir. What's the wishes of the council?
Motion to approve.
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We
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a motion by
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saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed. It passes unanimously. Okay. We're gonna move on to,
um,
you
know,
we got a information agenda. There's some items in that I want to discuss, but I'll discuss those later. So, uh, I had some concerns with, but are we gonna ‸ go to reports and, uh, advisory committees, any reports? We're gonna ‸ move on to the city administration.
Uh,
Mr. Weegraff.
Uh, yes, mayor, uh, and council.
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the paper crosswalks and ramps.
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to, uh, repave the city and in order to, uh, the, the downtown area, in order to stay on schedule, we need to keep progressing with these crosswalks. Uh, just for your information, these brick crosswalks are
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Uh, they have held up fairly well, but they are showing their wear. Uh, a couple, uh, ‸ the crosswalks need to be replaced, uh, for ADA compatibility. Uh,
‸ we
are required to replace ramps and make, uh, all the, uh, sidewalks and crosswalks, uh, compatible with ADA.
as
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part of our, uh, ADA transition plan that we had to do for, uh,
uh,
federal funding. Um,
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Uh,
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Uh, these, uh, crosswalks, uh, you know, we proposed to replace them with, uh, stamped asphalt. Uh, we're looking at a continuity through the city. Uh, something similar exactly what we did on Florida Avenue. We would, uh, replicate here in the downtown area. Uh, we've also done these on Stone Street and Peachtree.
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to, to keep the progress going. Uh, leaving the, uh, existing bricks in place would, uh, slow the project down.
Okay. I just, uh, what I would like though, I just,
um,
this whole project kind of caught me off guard and, uh, and understand that three of us wasn't here, but, uh, there's some, I know there's some future stuff that's going on with the city. And it'd be nice to be kind of updated on some of the stuff that's going on instead of caught, you know, being caught off guard. So we were, I know I was definitely caught off guard and I was down there trying to figure out what was going on. And of course I got a couple of messages and, and, uh, and some pictures and, but I looked at some of the stuff firsthand. So I just, you know, I just hope that the staff understand that we're just coming in. So just kind of let us know what's going on. So when we get some, we get some of these phone calls and some of this stuff, we might, you know, have a little bit of knowledge about how to address these issues and these concerns. So,
all right, well,
but,
uh,
yes, we, we, we'll keep you in
more. Thank you, sir.
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Yeah, just wanted, so. Of course I got calls too. And then I went down there this morning and, um, ‸ because I kind of love that about Cocoa village, you know,
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And I, I looked at the one spot that's right over there, um, by the Derby street chapel and it already has the ADA compliance. So some of those already have it. So this is really a matter of you've got to pave that street and you can't pave it with the bricks there.
Well, the bricks have to be lined up with the, the curb ramps that they're pouring and the bricks are not compliant for a curb ramp. So the ramps
are
being made out of concrete. And then the, the ramp has to meet the brick pavers and the crosswalk. Um, you know, the brick pavers don't match. So they would have to be relayed. Uh, there's less trip hazards and, uh, better installation and, and a continuity through the city if we,
uh,
you know, make them all the same. And,
uh,
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Uh, the, the crosswalk actually at the orange street, uh, lines up with the, uh, storm drains. So, you know, that one has to go. So.
Can I make a statement?
Well, they're, they're just doing reports right now. So, um,
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I mean, it's, it's up to you guys. What do you,
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Well, just to say that I, I did go to Florida Avenue. ‸ I looked at, um, the stamped asphalt. I had no idea that it was stamped asphalt.
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I thought that, um, that it was brick work as well. It doesn't bother me at all though, that the village would be a little
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the same.
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It didn't.
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Okay. Just because they're not a vertical
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So you say, are you
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of ‸ the side of the ramp or is it something else?
Yes. And they also have to have the, uh, detectable surface on them.
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And it's hard to make them fit.
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you gotta know what you're doing. So it's hard to fit everything together.
There's another, I know we, we, we run across this a lot too. There's another issue with the, the brick pavers ‸ when some break finding the, um,
colors
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that match. Is that another issue as well?
When
you, or you,
the color on these pavers, uh, I was going to bring some in, uh, that the colors are obviously faded after 35 years. Uh, so you would never find the exact color match.
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tell it. It's a different color.
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That's my last question too, by the way.
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um, as far as the asphalt, when you paint it to make it look like debris, is that something that have to be painted every two years, every three? Oh, I mean, what, what's the process of that?
They, uh, that paint. They,
uh,
have
been 10
to 15 years. I know Rockledge has done it, uh, where Florida ‸ comes out on the US one. A lot of cars that use that. It needs to be redone.
Um,
so no, they don't last forever. But, uh, they're fairly easy to redo.
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Mr. Assistant City Manager. Uh,
yes, Mr. Mayor, just maybe provide some clarification. First, just apologize for the new members not being aware of the project, but some of the, the background on it. Uh,
it
was actually proposed for the prior fiscal year. And, uh, due to the length of Stone Street and, uh, the, the bids that came in, we used the city's annual paving, uh, budget that was actually dedicated for the downtown last year. And put that towards the stone street project so we could see that through.
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crews would get a contract underway immediately into the fiscal year to ensure that what we had originally promised in, uh, uh, fiscal year 2018 would occur as soon as possible. Now,
we
did,
uh,
you know, obviously our, our focus was on the, the impacts to the businesses downtown. And so we did, uh, do our best to provide notification to them and as well as the, the crews that are down there now working around the, uh, the schedules of the downtown merchants. And so, um, it, it was an oversight that, you know, we didn't get you informed right out of the gate. So just to let you know.
Okay. And.
Uh,
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So the ADA compliance is required in the village versus, but it's not, for example, required in my neighborhood.
It, it's required on all the sidewalks. We're required to replace the curb ramps and the compliance when we resurface. When you resurface. You know, downtown here, there was 25 or 30 of them that we had to redo.
Uh,
when we redid, uh, Hewlett Avenue, for example, we had to replace curb ramps. Uh, there were some that were installed that weren't compliant. So we had to reinstall curb ramps, um, through the years to make them compliant. So
the one that you dug out today, then you're going to go back and do the curbs?
It, it all gets done. Yes. The curb has to
blend
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into the ramp. There can't be too much of a transition. Um, the slopes all have to match. You can't, you know, it's pretty, pretty tough to fit it all in.
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So,
um,
yes.
Thank you, sir. Um, anything else or?
No, that's enough, I think.
Ms. Bowman?
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No report, sir.
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Thank
you,
sir.
No report.
Uh,
just one reminder. Um, there was a sustainability committee that was supposed to be held tomorrow night.
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So if anybody's interested, it's on the 7th and it'll be,
uh,
I will be presenting on behalf of utilities, uh, sort of some of the practices that we're following.
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Thank you, sir.
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the public works director, uh, I believe he was looking for a consensus among the council so that they could continue with the project.
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So, I mean, I, I'm fine. I mean, I'm fine with it. I mean, I just wish that we've had a heads up and, and, uh, unfortunately this is something that I guess was, uh, pre-approved before we got here and ‸ doesn't necessarily make it right. But cause I know some things were switched around for, for reasons that I, I think are not right. In other words, uh, some projects were moved aside for election purposes and that's my personal opinion. I'm going to throw that out there.
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It's all good, but that's not going to happen here on the, on the, uh, what this council that we have in place right now, but what's done is done. Thank you, sir. And, uh, that's my opinion. We can move forward.
Can I make one comment? Okay. On this issue. I just want to say, cause what, you know, what I, uh, texted John this morning about it, um, the response was just to do that. This would be
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And in terms of the village, I just want to be on the record that it doesn't have to
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it special and I don't want to ever lose sight of those. So, uh, that's my opinion.
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microphone and the recorded audio stream. Uh, just to let everyone know, we made some adjustments. So if you have some folks out there listening, let us know how it is, uh, and we can continue to work on that, but we'll listen back through the stream. We did some testing, even listening through mobile devices. And, uh, it seems to be much better. Yes, it is. I've noticed that. Thank you, sir.
Um,
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Uh, couple, couple items, uh, staff will meet regarding Michigan Avenue and report back to city council with the express concerns of the resident. Mr. McGee, uh, we'll also follow up on the ditch
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first street and St. John's. Uh,
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And then just, uh, before one other item,
uh,
is there a consensus, I know,
uh,
on the ordinance, the request for an ordinance to essentially ban puppy mills? Uh,
and
just by way of background, I know
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cycle before that, there was a proposed bill to preempt, you know, um, municipalities or local governments from banning them. But there is a current bill out there right now, um, House Bill 3, that's a,
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through one of its committee that would preempt local governments as it relates to, uh, regulating or impacting certain commerce. And it's basically, you know, it's almost like for those two years ago, House Bill 17 representative fines build up regarding preemption, you know, with a little bit more in terms of withholding state.
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after the legislative session. It's still an issue. We can address it then.
Yeah. So the last item, um, I have is, uh, every couple of years, the Brevard County mosquito control, as you know, uh, the,
um,
they control the mosquitoes through both aircraft and ground vehicles. Uh, they, for purposes of conducting their aircraft operations for mosquito control, uh, the, they spray and it's really the only, as they deem the only real way to combat the spread of encephalitis and West Nile virus. Uh, and since they will be flying over our jurisdiction, the FAA requires them to get written approval. Uh, and it is a two year time period, uh,
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And in the past, I've just sought consensus from council and provided a letter to them authorizing. So if there's consensus, you know, I'll forward, uh, a new letter to them authorizing them to, uh, conduct their aircraft
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only city that wasn't getting sprayed for mosquitoes.
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regarding, uh, the follow up and the request for information, uh, from Mr. Waters, who appeared before city council in January, um, after several attempts to meet, uh, we met, uh,
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Yes, sir. And that's all I have. Thank you very much. Thank you, sir.
Just, I, just one thing on the mosquito control.
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Yeah.
They,
this is for this corporate
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I don't know. I
don't think they do spray the river.
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the river spraying.
I mean, that would have to be permitted by somebody, I assume. And with all the work that's going into restoring the lagoon. But I don't know. I don't think I've ever seen
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I will
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like, uh, one day this week, when we had a contractor that was, you know, spraying for weeds along the, um, right away. And it was so windy that the, I assume it's roundup was, it wasn't going on the weeds.
Yeah.
It
has to be certain conditions before they, they get up and spray.
Yeah. I'm just not sure they have any permitting requirements for that or.
Well, they do. And, uh, I just, the, what, I mean, all the taxpayers pay for the mosquito control district. And they conduct their operations and, but in order to do their flight
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the FAA requires it to get approval. And so, uh, they say they spray for mosquitoes in both adult, the sighting and larva sighting activities.
So
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mean,
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Well,
I
don't like mosquitoes.
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Thank you, sir.
Okay. Um, uh, first, first of all, I'd like to, uh, ‸ send a great, uh, congratulations to, um, uh, ‸ Cocoa Police Department for making arrests. Um, on the, um, on the case that we had, uh, the last couple of weeks, it's been a very trying time for the city. And so I commend, uh, chief and that all the detectives and the community for, for coming together. Some,
sometimes
we don't come together as we should, but in times like this, I feel that, uh, we, as a community, we came together pretty strong.
I
think we, we did a good job of, uh, helping the police department in every way possible. Anonymous or,
uh,
some people didn't care if it was anonymous or not.
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community and build that relationship, this is what happens. Um, so, uh, ‸ thank you to chief. I appreciate you for all the hard work you did.
Uh,
there also was a, a couple of citizens inquiries about, uh, maybe, um, city manager can answer this, about installing emergency call stations. I know in college we had, um, those big blue lights that we had, uh, when you, uh, was in emergency or panicking or, why this thing popping? Um, or, um, you're not able to access a telephone or a cell phone.
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case may be. And it's an alert to, uh, the police department. Um, and it really became a conversation based on this particular case. So, is that something that we have ever thought about or something that,
um,
that's when we talk about solar power. ‸ It, it may could be powered through solar, um, that can, another step of helping our citizens be safe. Is that something that we possibly can do?
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2014. Um, because you see them at, uh, many universities and, uh, you know, that there are many options to include solar. Uh,
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Um, we did, uh, follow up on the research behind
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And they didn't find any correlation between the perceived safety, uh, as well as real safety associated with the placement of those. Um, I think back in the day when they, you know, it was very common to install those. Folks didn't have cell phone accessibility they do now. Um, so things have changed. But, uh,
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that, you know, those passing through, it may provide, you know, some perceptions of a presence, uh, there. Okay. Uh, but, uh, significant lost staff, staff time
in
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investigating false, uh, button presses.
Uh,
typically they have a camera on them as well. Um, but, uh, you know, that's, that's what we found at that time.
because
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you know,
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Oh yeah. I got you.
I got you. Okay. Oh, that was, it was just some people asked me about it and I told
him
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what I do. I bring it to, uh, to the council, uh, and maybe just some inquiry about it.
I
would like to get, just get some information. If
you
could email me, um, and I will get it to the people that
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asking about it.
Do you still have a copy of that report out? Yeah. I can, I can gather that research.
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decent job at, uh, Fern and Prospect with it. They finally put mulch after two or three weeks of calling and Matt harassing them. But, uh, they finally are trying to spruce up the parks.
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Matt made a phone call to them to open the gates and it has not been done thus far. So what, what I'm possibly planning is a, like a community, uh, rededication day, kind of like how we did with, um, Provost Park. Um, maybe we can get a church together, maybe in a month or whatever, um, you know, we come up with to bring the community back together. We have to,
we have to
rededicate that part back to the community.
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That park is a, um, a big issue. But with activity, um, I believe that we can remove some of that, that problem. Hopefully.
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over there on Washington area, Bernard street, um, what was a, was a huge success. A lot of volunteers came from Eastern Florida state. A lot of young people, um, that came out and, and helped. You know, we did a, did a pretty good job. Um, we have an issue at the pond on Bernard street. A lot of that trash, and I talked to Matt about it as well. A lot of that trash is coming through the storm drains, getting to, uh, that particular pond.
And
at that point, we, we probably had about 12 bags of ‸ trash, um, just on the edge of the pond. That's ridiculous. Um, so I don't know if something, uh, Mr. Weegriff that can be possibly looked at, um, and man, Matt talked about it a few times.
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and yes, kids definitely throw trash in it too. I understand that as well. Um, but maybe also a conversation with habitat for humanity to get a fence around that pond as well, because it's another thing with safety. Um, a lot of kids trying to go, when we was out there, they was out there trying to get the balls and getting close to the edge. And we, we have a lot of issues at times in our community with drownings as well. So, um, so I would like for that to be looked at, uh, Matt and Mr.
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about the, um, about that pond. Um, that's all, that's all I had.
Uh,
I appreciate everybody, uh, coming out for the, definitely for the, uh, McFarland Park issue. That was a very tough situation. And I'm still concerned about moving forward.
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community, in that area regarding this part. I know that the city owns property. So hopefully we can stay in the conversation. Uh, I'll probably gonna
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So just in case someone cussed me out,
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together. Um, I'm hopeful, but I don't think it's gonna happen anytime soon.
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Mayor Warner.
Yeah. Did you get the same thing? I got Alex, somebody in that neighborhood telling you to mind your own business. Yes, I
did.
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That's okay. Um, just a couple of things. Um, the dedication down there was, was really, really nice and well attended. And it was great to see that many people come out to dedicate a Habitat for Humanity home, uh, to a female veteran. Uh, ‸ that's probably the best turnout I've ever seen at one of those events. Um, also, um, really happy to see that we've made an arrest, um, in, um, our homicide case. And hoping that, uh, with, um, service coming up this weekend, that, um, at least gives the family an opportunity to, to grieve without worrying about, um, him being on the streets. Um, also, Mr.
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I don't know, is there something going on on US 1?
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both sides of the street. There are no street lights on US 1. It's dark as it can be out there. It's been that way for days. Um, and the same thing on, um, on Indian River Drive from Dixon Boulevard all the way up to 1515. That whole section through there, there's no street lights on. I
mean,
it's like, I was driving around the city the other night. I'm like, I mean, I know I'm starting to get cataracts, but it was pretty bad. And I'm looking at US 1, I'm like, there's no, there's no street lights.
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uh, the city does maintain those lights.
Yeah, it's, like I said, it's from Brunson. It's almost like it,
right
‸ there on the dividing line at Brunson. But it's from Brunson all the way, almost to Dixon to Economy Muffler, which is just almost all the way up to Dixon Boulevard. There's no street lights on either side of the road at all.
Okay,
we'll check those tomorrow.
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And then, um, also on Dixon, just on the east side of Crosswinds, those lights right in there, um,
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of Dixon.
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And I know the police department has a lot of issues with runaways up in there. So that whole area right there around the entrance to Crosswinds is really, really
dark. Those lights are FPL maintained. Okay. So, uh, anyone can call those in. Obviously we'll go look.
Okay.
And see. But, uh, if any resident sees the street light out, most likely it's FPL. You, uh, go online and, uh, report an outage. And, uh, it's very easy to do. There's a number on the poll as well. Right.
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there is numbers on the
poll. Yeah. We'll look at
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takes them to get them fixed.
Okay. Thank you.
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paving that? I know part of it's ours, part of it's the county.
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Is that us or the county?
Uh,
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The parts that are in the county ‸ is the county.
So in part, the kind of like
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So do we like pave half and they pave half?
Yeah. Generally we would do a, uh, a joint, a joint project and do it kind of all at once.
It's actually up north.
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We have, uh, the north portion.
Well, we've got, uh, the north, basically north of ABC street on both sides. And then south of ABC
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got the, uh, east side.
Yeah, we, I know the east side is ours down there and the west side is theirs. And it's getting pretty bad. I don't know where it is on the list, but.
Well, it's more than just paving.
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Mm-hmm.
And again, once you touch a road, you have to do the handicap ramps.
Mm-hmm.
And the sidewalk is, is a huge issue. So.
Oh
yeah. We're, you know, there's actually a project on the books, but it's, it's more than just slapping a coat of asphalt down. Well,
with there being a school along in there,
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the school, you have parents and grandparents walking those children to school. So there's a lot of.
Yes, the sidewalk.
The
traffic in there. ‸ We're aware of it. Okay.
Um,
FPL didn't help. We're trying to get some of those fixed, but,
uh,
yeah. The whole road needs to be reconstructed.
It's, it's definitely in pretty bad shape. I won't be driving down it again anytime soon if I can help it. Um, that's it for me. Thank you.
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Yeah, that's definitely traffic calming. It's like stay off of that street. That's what it is.
Thank you.
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Uh,
great work by the detective bureau and the police department. Good reception.
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for inviting us to the, uh, board presentation. This we're in under five new firefighters on Friday night, which
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Good ‸ reception. Councilwoman cost when deputy mayor and myself were there and Alex was in Orlando, so he couldn't be there. So,
right. And you, I don't know where you were. I was actually fell asleep. I was exhausted.
Well, he fell asleep. That's right. He was there. That was a good reception chief. Thanks for inviting us.
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‸ Good turnout. The city council was there in full strength and really good work going on in the city. And we're moving forward with that construction on 524.
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So I see a lot of development up there. Keep that station busy. Thank you very much. And have a great night, everyone.
Thank you, sir.
Uh,
councilwoman. ‸ Yeah.
Uh, I got the, I went to the
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at our economic development breakfast a couple of years ago was a speaker and, uh, he was quite inspirational.
He was, you
know, his book, Love Where You Live, creating emotionally engaging places. And it really, that's why this whole sidewalk thing really struck a note because he talks about these very small things you can do that make a place special.
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I did go to the ribbon cutting also at the organic spa and salon on Oleander street. And they have assured me that I can continue to, uh, maintain my youth with organic products. So that's good. Glad to have them here. And, um, I also attended, uh, pension meetings for the police and the fire department. And I hope, please assure everyone, I'm not trying to go after anybody's pension. That was not my reasoning behind being there. I just wanted to learn more and I'm trying to go to all meetings and just, you
know,
get a better picture of the city overall. Really enjoyed the fire department event the other night. And
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Oh, okay, I'll get through this. But it was really interesting. I thought you did a great job with each presentation, educating the audience about different aspects of fire department work. So thank you for that. And my apologies for not making the community legends this weekend, but I was involved in the
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That's right. Um, and also thanks to the fire department for my weather alert. Thank you. That's it.
Thank you, ma'am. Chief, I wanted to make it to the, uh, to the awards deal and for the, uh, the new employees that was coming on. But I actually had three events early that day and, and I actually passed out and fell asleep. I was exhausted. My body just couldn't take it anymore. Um,
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I've been pretty busy, um,
um,
trying to get some stuff done. But,
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to mention.
Uh,
Mr. City manager,
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sending some flowers, uh, our flower, our floral arrangement to the, uh, for the funeral for the young lady that was killed here in our city. Uh, that was killed in Osceola, but was a resident of our city.
I
just think that that'd be a good gesture considering, you know, some of the circumstances ‸ behind that, sir. I don't know what the, maybe the consensus of the council.
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some flowers. And, uh, then also, um,
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that was involved in resolving this. And, uh, I knew I was getting a lot of phone calls and, and, and, uh, uh,
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And, and, uh, so I'm not going to expound on anything because I don't have anything to tell you. And I said, when it's done, it's done. And, um, you guys
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And, uh, also went to the, um, the black history, uh, event at endeavor elementary school, a few of us. And, uh, it was a nice event. Uh, they honored a lot of the local pioneers here in, uh, Brevard County, which I thought was awesome. ‸ That's been the theme and the focus of, um, Black History Month this year. And it's been absolutely wonderful. Um, I was driving through the city of Cocoa as well as portions of Rockledge. And I noticed that we have a number of, um, bus stops with benches and there's no waste containers there. I was looking at the,
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um, not just in the city of Cocoa and Rockledge as well. And I was really surprised. And I was actually going to give Dr. Federal a call as well because, um, you know, we, we have some serious issues with these bus stops.
Uh,
these are some active bus stops that I, that was along Roselle Jones. There's
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no pads. And I don't, don't even care about the pads, but the fact that there's no garbage cans there. And there's just garbage all over the place in these, um, at these locations, the individuals just leave the stuff there, drop it. Cause there's nowhere for them to put their garbage. And I'm going to be addressing that with the TPO as well.
I
mean,
uh, uh,
it's my understanding that they're the ones that kind of hit up a lot of that.
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Uh, SCAT is actually, uh, in charge of the bus stops.
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advertising benches. The benches just kind of appear. And, uh, you know, I know, uh, the, uh, Diamond Square, uh, upgraded a lot of the bus stops along 520 with, uh, city standard benches and trash cans. Those benches are, um, over a thousand dollars a piece and the trash cans are about that also.
Yeah, they're just not,
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cans and I looked at the garbage around them or in the areas around them. And I was like, wow, I didn't even realize, I didn't realize that was that, that was that number in Cocoa. And, uh, and then, like I said, there are three or four rock days that I saw. So, um, that's something I'm gonna be addressing because, you know, we, we were asking people to pick it up and clean it up.
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other than leg it around.
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But anyway, I just thought I'd mention that. And, uh, also congratulations to the Cocoa High Boys basketball team.
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the, going to the state. Or one game away from going to the state championship game. Um, I think they're in the regional finals now as their next game. So kudos to those guys for doing a wonderful job. We had our Legends, um, parade. Once again, thanks to the police department. You guys did a wonderful job. RV cops, volunteers.
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rec department. And, um, Merritt Allen that came out
the
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support. It was a great event. A lot of people there. And, uh, once again, thank you to Deborah Dukes and those folks that are involved. All the county folks that was involved. They did a great job. Uh, we had a groundbreaking for our first woman build home
that's
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um, in the process of, um, happening off of Whaley. Great event. And it's for veteran women, uh, which is absolutely awesome.
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We had the training for
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And they were from all over. And, uh, it was actually a really nice event. I think all of council was there and, uh, it was a beautiful event. And thanks to Dolores and our PD and everyone that was involved. Uh, some nice dialogue that we had with them. Um, attended, um,
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It was, uh,
uh,
central floor. I mean, the soulful Regal or however you want to pronounce that.
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event. And, um, he was a guy that used to be on there with, um, what was his name?
Uh,
Mr. Rogers. And, uh, he spoke last night and, uh, it was actually pretty, um, inspiring and, uh, it was a great event. And, uh,
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And, uh, but I thank them for the invite as well as
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the elected officials. Uh, they put on a nice event at our civic center as well, but I'm not going to go on.
I
mean, there's a, there's a lot of stuff. I've been very busy because I'm, I'm committed to doing what I do. I'm committed to trying to make a difference in our community. I'm committed to change. And, uh, and then just one last thing, Mr. City Manager, I was looking at some articles. And
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this council chambers. Uh, and it was brought up. And then I know the previous, um, ‸ previous mayor and council members has concerns about security here. And,
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He actually said that, um, at the time they've had some concerns and, uh, ‸ and I, I know we've talked about some metal detectors, but I just don't want it to go on deaf ears. We need to really, um, follow up on some of this stuff. And, uh, and, uh, and I'm hoping that we will continue to follow up on this stuff.
The consultant will be outside tomorrow doing their evaluation. Okay. Thank you, sir.
And, uh, just thank you to everybody for everything that you do. And, uh, ‸ and, uh, with that being said, I'm going to get a motion to adjourn.
Motion to adjourn. Second.
We get
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all in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay.
Have a nice night, everyone.
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Thank
you.