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why are ‸ these people here, baby?
And I remember my daughter taking minutes to the board of adjustment.
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Because she had to explore it in full of minutes from those meetings and bring them over to ‸ the board of adjustment for some meetings.
Salute, Chief.
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project.
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I remember Angela telling me that I think she said you were the attorney at the board of
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meeting when this came up. And
it,
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It was
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asked for it because they had another
project on
their agenda that was asking for parking
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was resourced.
Yes, sir.
Troop 359. It's in
a board of adjustment meeting. Can
we have the troops, members of 359, come on up, please? Boy Scouts.
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it came up in a board of adjustment meeting, so it'll be in a board of adjustment sentence.
It
came up in a board of adjustment meeting because they had another
waiver on
the
agenda. Congratulations, guys. We're going to earn a marriage badge tonight. Did you believe many, many moons ago when I had there, I used to be a boy scout, needless to say they did not make uniforms in my size.
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Trust me.
Trust
me.
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Okay,
okay.
Woo!
Please
don't let anyone, please.
When is your birthday, do not show them to anyone. I want to introduce you guys to our mayor.
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That's our deputy mayor.
Hi, how are you all? Wow.
Councilman Furbish. No, it's not.
I'm
blowing it up, man. I'm telling you.
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This is Bo
Bear,
that's Furbish. Yeah, every little pew, that's what
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You guys can't call it that.
That's
good. But it's Councilman Bo Bear for District Number 3.
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We're still
here.
Stick with me, brother. And as I say, the deputy mayor, Brenda Warner.
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With your blessings. Yeah.
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Henry said, you know, ask maybe, let the troops need some players. Would that be all right? You're the greatest.
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Well, now,
where are you guys located exactly?
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Monday.
It's
going to be off the coast of West Palm Sunday
at 2 a.m.
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You're gonna ‸ spoil me.
Good.
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He's aware of that. Who's seen on your presentation? Shall he call you? Is
Mr. Yardley here?
Yeah.
It
was all his idea, though, man.
Yeah.
Common spelling?
That's a good practice.
L-E-N-E-N-E-U-T-R-E-R-M-A-N.
Okay. Now, shall I, what's
your... Okay.
Okay. I'm just putting on district commission, if that's okay. And Pamela is what?
Scout.
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cocoa.
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And
they're receiving a merit badge.
Oh,
hello.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you,
sir. Oh, fantastic. That's
very,
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site. Yes, sir.
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for you.
Thanks, Jack.
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‸ Hey!
All
my children come out tonight.
All right.
Oh, let me see what the
mayor is
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Yeah.
It was a cost, uh... Commission.
I know, right?
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How's it going?
Um, this is Pamela Miller, chief scout. I'm
going
to get my faxed... Scout master, okay.
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How's
it
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How's
it
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Great, thanks for
coming.
Uh, with your blessings, Mr. Mayor, as you said,
you
would... Yes, sir, you're going to let the gentleman lead us in? Yes, we are.
Okay. Now... Thank
you, Mr. Mayor. And
who is
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this... Okay, here we go, all right.
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Oh. That's our current mayor, Mayor Henry Parrish. I'm sorry, forgive me. Mayor Henry Parrish.
Hey,
Mr. City Manager. Thank you, sir. Very good, sir. Whatever I'd like to do is...
Hey,
we're both in.
I
don't hate you.
I'm
tired.
I'm
tired.
Earlier this week, later on the street, try to get the application for code, city code. ‸ Thanks. Yeah. Like you have on your computer.
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To retrieve that information. Please, sir.
Sorry. It's not an ad. It's a website. Okay.
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Somewhere up there. I'm wonderful. I
have brand new brochures. I would like to give to
them.
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I
can bring more if you guys need it to yourself.
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Hey, Laura. How you been doing? Haven't seen you in
a
while. Yeah. You've been hiding good, right?
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What is... She's running for the clerk of the court?
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You're doing better every day. Yeah. ‸ The prayers must be working. You know?
And...
I will.
Yes,
ma'am. Well,
I
do see. Where is he?
How are
you?
Wayne, get out of your neighborhood.
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you just navigate here and charm.
What time we got? Show me where I need to go just for street changing.
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From the name of the park and also... How about that drive? The two requests that I made.
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earning the citizenship in the community
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You want to put it in your...
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Okay Yes sir, I am No, I'm talking to the mayor
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Good, okay
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Okay
I bet we were all Boy Scouts except the Deputy Mayor
I was a Boy Scout man or two of
them
You were never a Boy Scout man I'm trying to tell you guys that
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Oh Mr. Kenneth I think it is Yes sir
What the dandereen? Did you really?
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man It's like a
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Oh heck yeah man
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I'll
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Get
‸ Alright
‸ I'm ready anytime you are there Doc
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Conferences Seminars That we as teachers
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So yes sir ‸ Me? Yeah Whatever you need ‸ I'm a team player Help
me catch up
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wearing on his left front pocket The tall guy Young man
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On your left pocket What is that badge?
Is
that Is that
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Been a long time
Just let me know when you're ready Mr. Mayor
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Welcome everybody Thanks for coming
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Good meeting tonight Right? ‸ Thanks for coming And we're gonna start off with the invocation Mr. Blake Yes would everyone stand please ma'am please sir All
true blue Good red blooded Americans
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Because I would hate for our mayor to
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Dear Heavenly Father ‸ Once again would like to say thank you for all the great people of this great nation coming together In a unified manner A humble
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In a wholesome manner
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people because ‸ for us as leaders ‸ in order for us to be great leaders we must be servants to the people and all of our council members and the city employees are here
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But more so than anything else sir We ask that you continue to bless our youth because as you can see before us we have the future So we ask all these humbling blessings be bestowed upon the great city of Coco and our great nation And everyone said amen
Amen
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And amen again Thank you Mr. Mayor All right Now we
have Everybody we have
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Merit badge And these are our future leaders So get a good look
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Go ahead
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Great job Thank you
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yes sir Mr. Mayor Thank you Mr. Mayor Future leaders Future
leaders
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Mr. Mayor
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We would like to add
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And kind of do a public information presentation As many people know If you do not know Currently Tropical Storm Erica is out there And on our website there's a wealth of information With links to other information And Sam's going to walk you through it So all members of the public can see And be prepared in the event that this storm Was to come our way or impact us Yes ma'am Okay
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the agenda
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Okay I think I approve the agenda The regular meeting of August 25th 2015 With the amendments And the minutes too And the minutes of
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As written
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Any opposed ‸ Okay So we'll move To Sam
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I just want to give a quick update
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out the latest information So
on our website you can see
under our alert bar here we have a tropical storm Erica update And if you click on it it has all of the links to We have the
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national weather service and our city of cocoa stuff so
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mobile app it has our Brevard county oc you can text get text messages
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We have been constantly updating this is our facebook page you will see our constant updates that we have throughout the day
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of all of the information that we have on the tropical storm all of the latest information we also have our twitter page where we've done the same thing and we've definitely been retweeting and posting all the latest maps and information
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which is an opportunity for you guys and this is a great opportunity for everybody here if you want to get on it is a kind of it's a social media network that people are using to connect with their neighbors so it's like a it's almost like a community watch type app or a site and you can go on there and connect with your neighbors you can report ‸ you know crime information
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‸ You can post things and then the city has a page on there as well so we can post all of our information and our emergency preparedness information is on there ‸ so we'll keep that updated as well so make sure to click on that and we will keep everybody updated on the latest information are there any questions looks good Sam
that's a great job and we have our mobile
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if you guys have the mobile app on your phone you can sign up to get push notifications which will send you all the latest information
Thank you that's great it's the
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okay go to Steve we're gonna do the yeah
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if we could to us which these two presentation items before you we have the awarding of
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If we could place that before the 520 presentation, just to uh council uh I
don't see why not yeah
it's fine you motion. Let's do it. Okay,
very good. ‸ then we'll go ahead with that. And if we
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at this time, we can have the uh the board come up uh the US one board come up to the uh uh podium here and give the presentation and we can bring the uh
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the first of many uh we really appreciate it because it's a tough time we know what's going on in US one those businesses are just kind of hanging on and
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but you
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the process was the board went out and looked through the properties. We got it. There were about 10, at least 10. And then the board took you know took a took a ballot and you came out on top.
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getting a lot busier as far as you say you know it's
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three months, about 30,
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So that's a huge
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I'm part of the board oh there you go. There you go. That's it.
Up in the past.
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Sir, thanks. And uh the road project will get done. It's taken uh my whole term, probably. But,
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uh ‸ yes mayor uh well we have our next uh something I think we've all been waiting for for ‸ quite a while
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an update presentation on the state road 520 corridor study uh the limits from the bridge basically up to uh 520 we have with us Nick
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we'll get a presentation along with Judy Pizzo from FDOT and they will have a presentation and also to answer your questions afterwards so I'll leave it off to Judy and Nick
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manager for this corridor study
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citizens and Troop 359 for allowing us ‸ to present tonight this uh study let me just jump right in was at the request of the Space Coast TPO in Brevard County and it is
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looking at a monitor it's a mile long corridor that begins from US 1 and goes to Indian River it is comprised of two one-way roads Willard two and three lanes and King three lanes as uh high vehicular traffic through this, as you are very well aware, and
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what we're looking in this corridor is to evaluate current conditions and look at potential future solutions to alleviate some of the I'll ‸ just call it threats to pedestrians in trying to cross through this corridor We're also looking at ways in this process that will improve economic development, which is very important to you. And we're looking at how to balance all of that with the transportation needs and your land use needs. so in the course of this study which will go to sorry I have six studies on
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are at the very early stages of this study we're at the information gathering stage we have had a private project visioning team that we are working with these are high level stakeholders business leaders in the area they're helping us to hone down what we're looking at and
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will be having a public meeting. Keep that up.
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be announced soon, folks, that we will also have the folks here in the community come and see what we have gathered at that point. So again, this is a very early stage we are at. I'm going
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to turn the rest of this presentation over to
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and he speaks much more eloquently than I do. Nick?
thank you. uh Nick
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from Renaissance. i'm happy to be working on this project here in
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understand the corridor and especially some of the safety aspects, uh working on that State of the System report and seeing that uh trend over the past 10 years. uh As
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We've kind of been defining that problem. What is going on? And collecting those conditions. You know, what uh how can we start getting those data points to start resolving some of those issues out there on the corridor? um As we're going into this stage right now, we're developing those needs and those
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right currently, where we'll be coming to you, like Judy said, in November, to look at some alternative public
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can we do to improve this corridor. But before we get there, uh like Judy mentioned, we have a visioning team. We went out, we collected data. We developed what we called as a working vision map. What are we trying to accomplish what are some of those issues and opportunities on the corridor. And how do we resolve those with some improvements? Once we get through that alternatives
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sometime around after uh or the beginning of the new year, we'll be looking at defining and selecting those alternatives for further testing to make sure that they work not only for traffic to balance that operationally, but really to improve that safety and those crossing concepts for pedestrians, bicycles, and transit. access and then we'll be developing, which is, I think, an important step of this, the concept developments. Instead of most projects going through next to a
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for the design phase, uh we'll be developing these concepts that will be, uh for lack of a better term, shovel ready. So we can start working on some of these short-term
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pedestrian corridor, and developing an ultimate corridor management plan to help that implementation. So it's a partnership between
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and getting that transportation land use balance to promote that economic development. As
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uh What we're in right now is the June, the beginning phases. I like to call it more of the sausage making. We've got a lot of data and stuff going on, but now we'll be getting to uh some more of that pretty product, which is those alternatives, and what could it look like uh to balance and
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that vision.
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We've invited members of the community, city staff, uh businesses, and property owners uh to come and give us their insights about what's going on. Even though we've
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I want to make sure that we get the full understanding of somebody that's been here all the time, which is another reason why we're looking to have that alternatives workshop sometime in November so we can get more of your seasonal residents here involved in the process to make sure that we're uh designing this not just for peak season but off peak and all the conditions working and visitors. um Some of the things that we're looking at and we've heard, we've heard speeding come off the coming off the bridge is a major issue. uh That's because people are coming down too fast, trying to catch all those green lines. Actually, both
sides. Both sides, East and west.
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to use. And that is a major issue that we have that's been identified. That's something we're looking to resolve. So instead of just collecting data beforehand, we waited to hear all of these issues.
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not only did we collect traffic counts, we collected speed data. So we wanted to look at how fast were people going.
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above the speed limit. And this is during those At
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So you can get to the boardwalk and across uh underneath the bridge with some of the plans that your city is working on uh
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‸ So how can you go further? Or create more of a circulation so you can connect your bike and take it all the way through the city and get back to the village. So these are some of the goals that we're working on throughout this process. Here's the issues and opportunities map that we developed, which incorporates uh some potential areas for redevelopment, the complete street projects that are going on, um some ideas that somebody that people the visioning team have mentioned. uh One of the big ones are the gateway features at both the bridge and
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These will not only give you a sense of a destination, but they could also help with that traffic calming, giving that little bit of visual um barrier from seeing those green traffic lights and maybe slow down that traffic coming down the bridge. So these are some of those um ideas that we're working towards
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testing. Are
you talking about like lights and maybe a sign?
Maybe a sign or a gateway more of ‸ feature where we'll walk the green
light That would be great. If you could do that both ways, that would uh that would add a lot and slow a lot of people down.
That's what we're looking for. So we're looking for other techniques to calm traffic than just put in uh speed tables because we can't really do that because this is a state road, also an evacuation route.
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of trucks going through it, which they're not going to be happy Right.
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Palm Bay Road, you turn left and you have to go over the bridge,
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path there's a flashing light that tells individuals to slow down because there's a traffic light at the base of that ramp That's a good idea.
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you come over the bridge, yes a lot of times it's backed up because of a rack or something. And Mike's right. You need, like,
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signs they put up. Even we've talked about a terrible you come over. yes One
of those variable message boards where you could see you're traveling at this speed. Slow down, which could start getting that gradual decline in speed. I mean, that's a destination. Just to say it
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say this Mike's right. It's the indicator coming We're right. ‸ And then we're isolated. All the buildings in between both 520s. That's
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where we can let people walk across the street.
Right.
Even from Whitley Bay. But, you know,
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ask the question of how long will it take for us to get that light. I don't want to wait another two years or... Because,
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I mean...
Yeah.
Yeah, that's that's where my job comes in. we We compile all these wonderful ideas.
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on me. And I've got all these wonderful ideas that we've gathered. And, you know, we're going to present. We're going to do this. And I go back ‸ to... Back to reality, as I like to call it. I present to my traffic ops, to our design team, to our right away to our maintenance group,
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question is, are we going to have safe movement of people and goods? That's the primary... Right. Our message. And
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it should and everything is going to be good and we're doing all these wonderful things, then I can sell ideas. How soon will this come about? Well, if there happens to be a maintenance thing going on and, you know, what's happening in the
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in the next six months
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could be shovel ready ideas that we can slip in on another project with another project. I can't say definitely six months. I can't say definitely even three years. A lot depends on what's happening and where's this funding coming from?
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We're still gathering this information and these are great. We've actually, our project visioning team has had the similar thought process. So good minds, great minds. Okay.
Can I attach another question to a question, pretty ‸ Absolutely. Help me understand something, please, uh Nick and
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this This project, yes, sir. Yes, ma'am. And my thing is, um based on what the consultants have indicated in the selection to this, why has it taken so long? that's
Well, there's a lot of information gathering that goes on. There's a lot of studies that are done and
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can go on on this. We have to look at
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traffic analysis that are done in this area. There's a lot of surveys that are done. We look at existing data. We meet with our project visioning team. Sometimes that can't happen sooner than later because you've got a lot of puzzles that you're trying to get into the same box at the same time to talk to. So there's calendar issues that I can't control. If I wanted to get on your calendar at the same time as as your city of attorney, that might ‸ take a few weeks. So
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I'm not offering an excuse.
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just, this is the reality of the situation that it just sometimes takes what it takes. Okay. But we do have a dead deadline of June 2016. This will be done. You promise. That's what he's
done.
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and a lot of them are all of our constituents. And it's in our district, my district. And
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people coming from uh Whitley
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they don't feel like they live here on the you know on the south side and they have to drive their car across. Yeah, the barrier
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it's unsafe. And, you know, and honestly, um I have faith in you. I just want you to go faster. They all do. Well,
what I can promise is that we will have alternatives in something before the project is done in June. Because even though
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then the corridor full implement implementation plan. So sometime, I would say, in the spring of next year, we should have concepts and those projects that we want to start moving forward with. And that'll be short-term improvements, mid-term improvements to ultimately meet uh what ‸ I'm calling is the long-term vision, which I won't skip ahead too far, but I'll go back. We've developed this this map and this is what we're trying to follow. We're trying to create a pedestrian friendly core environment and to make sure that not only traffic, but everybody knows that this is a destination. So our improvements are going to be surrounding uh this vision of making sure you have your major auto-oriented streets, you have your sub um streets you have your pedestrian oriented streets, um still incorporating a long-term vision of commuter rail and other transportation options, but really getting at what can we do now short-term to improve safety and the pedestrian access and then how do we really maintain that with traffic as it grows in the future, short, mid, and long term And that's where we are going to get to ultimately by June, but
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the spring. And hopefully we can start getting some of those low-hanging fruit um you know implemented shortly.
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idea?
oh to complete the whole thing? I don't know what the full scale of improvements we're coming up with. Right now we have some ideas. Some of the short term are, you know, signage, lighting. But what do we do about the turn lanes? Do we have room to maybe add more sidewalk, more street trees?
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you know, so I'm still trying to put together the package that not only will work for you, but
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saying that, no, we're not going to cause a major traffic delay problem.
I mean, just one thing I want to say is uh ‸ probably in my lifetime I've seen two or three fixes. it may be some Maybe one big fix where they realign the roads, but then they do these little quick fixes and it'd be kind of crazy. But it sounds good. I can tell you just wanted to go faster.
We've had some good success. As an example,
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They had two one-way pairs that were three lanes. um When they were coming in for a resurfacing project, we were able to skinny down the lanes and widen the sidewalk. And that was something that was able to be done in three years, just working as a partnership with FDOT and the community to make sure that, you know, that's the type of projects and the low-hanging fruit that you can get going. Only one side got done, but they were doing it in the same time as a roadway resurfacing project. So it was something that we didn't miss the opportunity.
That's something we never talk about. ‸ We have lately, because
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that job,
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be a lot smarter, I think.
And and that's my job to make sure that we do this as smart ‸ as ‸ quickly as possible. i just I
just want to I'm going to share some frustration because I know I've heard it from many members of councils and I've heard it from many of our citizens. This project was not funded in July of 2015. This project was funded ‸ July of 2014 because in October of 2014, City Council funded monies for the purposes of doing interim safety improvements and such as I mean, we have offered to step up and
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bridge. And I got to be honest, I mean, i
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gets calls right here
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trying to get people across 520. And and I know we want to work together, but ‸ just like, what can we do? Because it was in the winter of 2013, we had residents come here and express concerns about the corridor. The city and the CRA took it upon itself and provide did a study. You know, we hired a transportation engineer, you know, planning engineer and provided that information to the TPO. And that was the basis of getting this process going. And it was funded in my, I understood that the, that you were even selected for the, you know, ‸ the, the job prior to the funding even being authorized. And then it took this long. And now we're talking about, you know, spring of next year before the project's even funded. I mean, so, I mean, ‸ what, what can, you know, we have funds. I think we budgeted, if I recall correctly,
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about 300, 350 000 to do interim safety improvements because there are legitimate safety concerns, you know, as of the slingshot lanes, the people coming down across the, coming down the bridge. And
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I mean, we had the funds. I mean, and we could probably reappropriate them, but we just need something I mean, I'll be honest, we even reached out to the speaker and our senator about that. And
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And I understand you got a process, but
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important to our citizens. So what can we do to get some of these, ever here a lot of the things that you've identified, that's we identified long before you identified them. ‸ Because we live here. ‸ Most of these people here are these are all the ones that are affected. Yes,
sir. You did the right thing in working and ‸ partnering with
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to get us in here to do what we need to do. And certainly do not want to belittle your efforts. And
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that you're not
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long that takes and the amount of money. So we are actually expediting our time by doing the level of study that we're doing in this pre-planning, pre-pd and e process. It's also
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and I'm a bit biased, I think we come up with this just a good product in this sort of situation.
I
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ability to have the funds available to expedite some of these suggested solutions. And that's also very important is the funding, as we all know. As the department's biggest challenge all the way down county city,
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So very respectful of what you have accomplished and what I hope we can accomplish together.
okay Yeah, a couple of things. uh The manager hit on most of it. So I won't repeat it.
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We even offered to pay for some of it. And y'all told us ‸ couldn't do it. And we didn't appreciate that very much, I can tell you. But I also want to say on their behalf, I went to that first meeting that they had right right here. And I can tell by what they've presented here, they did listen to those who were here and spoke uh their minds. And so i I think that's a good sign. Too slow. Let's get going a little faster. But I think we can finally get there here one of these days. Yes,
this is your project so
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you.
Okay. Okay. Thank you. all right Did it? Yes.
One word for me, Mr. Mayor. Safety. Safety. Safety.
Yes, sir. Our contact information is up above. uh Feel free to contact us if you have any more questions or wondering what's going on. We uh plan on having another visioning team and
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And like I said, we'd love for everybody to participate as we move forward with this. And
just, you believe that it'll be November for the seasonal residents? ‸ That's
what we're
waiting on, yes. Because I wanted to make sure that
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in here to
Yes, please. tell them We need your input. It'll be
‸ a very uh interactive workshop process where
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What do you like? What don't you like? And that way we can combine it all into a plan
that's
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what you're looking for. and look for oh
you got some of the finest minds out here in our city
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Thank you. Thank
you.
okay okay Okay. ‸ We're gonna ‸ go to uh delegations and uh David Murray,
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I'm a
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address basic problems. A
little closer. A little closer.
‸ Basic problems with the water department. ‸ Two years ago, over the summer, I was out of town. And I had had some yard work done. And dirt had gotten into the hole where the meter was. Well,
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water. And I was informed that it wasn't uh averaged. ‸ when I got back, there was still dirt covering the meter in the hole. And lo and behold, I had been charged
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hadn't used. At the time, I mentioned there were problems with either the meter reader and or the supervisor.
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of water for one month. And it looks like
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And I'm going to turn the rest of the time over to my son because he's got an even bigger issue. okay Thank you.
dave jr
Thank you. I'm uh Dave Jr. um Obviously, I
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water department was over the same thing. I i was getting bills that were, to me, seemed a little high. I had just moved in. um I was under the impression they were probably averages averaging them, but I was told that that even if they were, they get readings every quarter. Well, over the next nine months, as I mowed my grass, I watched the same ant pile that filled up that was residing in the water box, in the meter box. um And when, after all that time, I decided that I was going to bring it up to the attention that I had been watching what was going on, and nobody was reading my meter. So, anyway, very short time after that, they pulled that meter out, they replaced it with an electronic meter, and
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month. ‸ I pleaded with them for the next, off and on, for the next 18 months that there was a problem. They sent people out multiple times, looked at everything, and they said, well, you must have a leak, and that's all
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was said. ‸ after about five, ten minutes on the internet, I found where
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they had put in were put in with the wrong register. I walked out to my meter, opened it up, and sure enough, I had a two-inch register on a three-quarter inch meter.
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very quickly said, oh we're very sorry. This is what we owe you. I said, how did you come to that conclusion? I i want to know the formula that you
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information from Neptune, who was the manufacturer of the water meters. I told her that wasn't acceptable. I met. uh We had a meeting and it would I believe it was the mayor and the city manager. I'm not positive. um I think Mr. Walsh was there, if I recall. vicky was there. uh
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because it was me by myself at that time. My wife was in school, and and i she said, you're right, I made a mistake. We had the decimal point in the wrong spot. You weren't using
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was 5 000 gallons a month. She said, I made a mistake. We had a decimal point in the wrong spot. This is what we really owe you. Thank you. And I said, no, if the decimal point was in the wrong spot, then instead of 5 000 gallons, it would be 500 gallons. And if you go back to December, then that wouldn't work out because i
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that point that I was losing, until I was able to show them the the issue with the meter, that I was losing 15 000 gallons of water a month in a leak. You know, there's not a puddle in my yard. There's not a depression in my yard, anything. So anyway, it was all said and done. No big deal. A little while later, my I sat there, watched my bill go up and up and up. I called them back. I said, hey, I've got some concerns. I just don't know about this meter. You know,
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obviously I had had some run-ins with them. They sent somebody out. They said, well, you must have a leak. I turned the water off at the house. And they
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I turned the water off. They pulled the meter out. They calibrated the meter. They put it back on there. And then, lo and behold, there was no leak. And they said that when they hooked the meter up, that it must have fit when they re-pressured the line, it just mysteriously fixed the leak. I don't know exactly how many, I can't recall the ‸ gallons that time, what was going on, but that was their reasoning. I had an issue before when we were talking about it,
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was using so much water when I when i was talking to him. and I said, Ron, let's think about this logically. You know,
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You know, what's that come out to? You know, 12 gallons, 10, 12 gallons. He said, no, it takes seven to
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gallons to flush your toilet. Ron Pompey is has a fairly high up position in ‸ the water department. And this gentleman's telling me it takes 10 gallons of water to flush your toilet? No. So anyway,
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from my dad. Saw a little bit of a spike in my water usage. Didn't know what was, what the issue was. So I uh went out to my yard to to investigate a little bit. I immediately saw a depression where the water meter was. So I'm thinking something's not right with that.
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I'll show you this video. I go and I open up my meter, just open the lid, and you can look in there and you can see water running out of a brand new meter that they had just put in the in the ground. um
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question it. um My point was that if if somebody had been out there reading that meter, not to mention the person that installed it, would have obviously seen this, what was happening. And then the person that would go out there and read the meter would have obviously seen what was happening. But yet nobody said anything. So I went to, I called, I just called down to the water department. I said, hey, I have a you know a question about my water bill. I think it's a little bit high. um
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in the home, and I told them four. I think you just saw the two of them are right there, and the other one's an adult. um
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month, person.
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water a day per person. Her response was, well, that, no, that's that's a little high. I said, well, do the math. That's 3 000 gallons a month. Well,
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I just go by what the manufacturer tells us. So this is twice now that I've had issues with this. um
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wrong register. I showed you the article about how
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wrong registers put in them, and it cost the city millions of dollars when this when the lawsuit came down. I suggested to her in that meeting, you have people going out there reading meters. ‸ Why don't you just have them when they look in there? Hey, look in there. if it's a If it's a residential meter, make sure that it's a three-quarter inch meter. At the next meeting that we went to, I asked her if she had done that. Her response was, why would I do that? We don't have a problem. um If you look at this, there's clearly a problem. When you have an issue like with Ron telling people it's 10 gallons to flush your toilet, there's a problem. And
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incompetent incompetency issues or training issues or however you want to trickle it down, there's going to be a problem. You know, i'm that's all I really have to say, except there's there's some issues that need to be addressed clearly. um I would like for you to see this before I leave so you can see what the contractor did and left like that.
hey Thank you. Thank you very much. um John, how do you address this?
i keep
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Well, I've not met with Mr. Murray before, so I mean, what I can do
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is I'll meet with my staff because some ‸ information I've heard seems a little bit not what I've been led to believe. So what I can do is I can meet with my staff and meet with
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yeah
that's I
appreciate that. I'd love to meet with you. But
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handled last time. And
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He's different than the other city man
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I mean i have no problem with that. I just well thanks for coming
I appreciate it. and we're gonna um He's
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Can I get his
card?
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Yeah,
make sure you have um hey, Dave, make sure you give a card or your information to the clerk over here if
you
can.
And um ‸ okay I've got his information.
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um
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I've been there about four and a half
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hit him to try to find out what's going on. We made a complaint about the the code enforcement, about the overgrowth on the adjacent property to that would be touching two corners I don't know if I could show you would you like to
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is yes yes
it
was
annexed about five years but yeah yeah John
I get just I've spoken with
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seems to be more of a dispute between property owners, and we have always tried to not use the code enforcement as a way for somebody to solve a civil situation. And I've explained that to the attorney and the the overgrowth is completely it's not free sand, it's it's it's it's got grass on it, so it's retaining. They've got the proper stormwater retention ‸ It's vacant ‸ land. it's this come They have a site plan on it they're working on it I can't compel them to do anything
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was that the the sand from the mound was coming into the into the players, and then there's also concerns about the structure, but the the the structure is fenced off, and it's a liability that the property owner ‸ assumes, and again, it's... In my opinion, it's one property owner having a dispute with another property owner, and they're trying to use the code enforcement process to resolve that, rather than go to, if they have a, you know, a dispute
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also asked his attorney to he sent a letter to me and he also called me and I just don't in the city manager and you don't think it's appropriate to use code enforcement on a civil matter
I
explained it to the attorney that we were not known you know there was an... angle
was
that, ‸ Probably
about the last conversation, the mat was ‸ about three months, two months ago? ‸ Two months ago?
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Well... and the other half of that site, they're taking the dirt from that site and dumping it on that property. Now, that was over a year ago. They dumped that dirt there now then I would now you can see the overgrowth that is growing on top of that dirt it's becoming trees not just
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again I don't want
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was blowing into the stadium okay so that the kids the kids are playing. You can't... You
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see the building now from me from the road. it's ‸ It seems to be an ongoing problem between the two owners. Yeah.
But
it seems to be an intentional buildup of dirt. and now that Now they're taking dirt from somewhere else to put it... Rather than taking it from there, they're taking it from a different section somewhere else and bring it in. it So it's obviously
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using
that dirt. Well, they've got to build retention ponds. They've got to do site work. In all fairness, you know at the same token
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we met with the
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opening so I mean in all fairness I mean mr. Erdman is moving at at the rate that they can to develop their property, and at this point in time, there's nothing that, you know... is the
property
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that property was annexed
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the main property was annexed like five years ago we
had
We had the same situation with the county, and just before he had postponed it twice already, and just before it came to the final hearing, he annexed into the city. So now we're at the same situation as we were
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‸ I don't I mean it's it's undeveloped land we don't have well
and he's doing site development activities there's I mean they've got a ‸ plan and you know I mean I've had to do that too yeah yeah that's I mean we can reach out to mr.
urban
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but at this point in time I don't
it
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goes back to by his own admission it's gonna go ‸ between the property owners and
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code enforcement process as a way to try to force another property owner and and be punitive towards them
I just didn't see anything that our code guys would normally do anything about anyway because it's it's basically
vacant
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commercial land.
So you're
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dirt on ‸ they can We got it all
over town.
I mean they're laying ‸ pretty much do whatever they want
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right next to it half mile from it oh yes I see
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But they are in the process of using that. They're not using this dirt. They haven't used this dirt in over a year. well
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actually bring ‸ in and services they're he's in the bill process
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on a inhabited lot? Depending
on the size of the lot.
Aha, okay, okay. Yeah.
Okay.
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It's maybe not at the pace that somebody else may like it, but it's. But even
if it wasn't, there's, you know. There's
a lot of residents complaining about it too, that it's it's not. It's a very
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I live here too yeah and it's it's
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it's not it's just and plus it's a security issue. We've had kids that were robbing cars coming onto that property, hiding in behind those mounds and stuff. So it's, it's uncomfortable
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Chief, have you received
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a charter
well but actually
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so the city police department would be the one to respond
should be I think we respond next door a lot of the behind these guys yeah I think
um maybe we can just reach out to mr. Erdman and see if he can settle the issues yeah
yeah okay well that's all we can do okay I appreciate we appreciate you coming thank you thank you
thank
you
all
right uh Sally uh uh
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lake in our backyard and it has overcome with vegetation. um It's become an eyesore, a mosquito heave and what used to be a pretty lake is now a overtaken by vegetation I do have pictures to show this and apparently it's been up kept by either the city or the county and
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um um it's just you know as I bought my home it said it was lakefront property and this is no longer a lake. and I do have some pictures I can show you please
I've
seen it lately yes I know
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yeah okay and ‸ he contacted
me
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and ‸ apparently
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so I don't know who's been picking it up the city manager's working on that and uh
it's owned by one of
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think so it's a person listed in its address is
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so but
I thought it was attached to one of the properties along the lake and
it may well be I think some of the properties actually extend out into ‸ lake
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research. And then there's one primary owner.
Yeah.
‸ Yes. The lots on
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and turns and goes east and west it was platted that portion was platted with the lots actually owning property into the lake. So they own the bank down into the water body. And then the water body is actually owned by another party and I drove around today our crews have insisted that they haven't maintained it. And their length of experience with the city and my length of experience with the city as public works director we've not maintained it and I drove around every lot as a fence and a gate. And there's no way to put our uh our boat, to our spray boat in that lake. So... uh We
can reach out to the individual lot owners
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They would be required to maintain that. So we can reach out vis-a-vis code enforcement and contact them. Send them a courtesy notice um at this point I mean I think that's I mean Steve do you have any other
no I'll have our code enforcement officer go out there tomorrow and see if we can
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can meet with them, and if we need to, we can cite them.
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and and and by the way I had uh I had gotten some information that said it was sprayed in July it
was
but they were confused between there's a lake on south Lake Mon
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the north. So please pass that information back.
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see it It
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when I got here. I kind of cleared out the room a bit. um Jeremy Phelps, 111 peach tree here for the historic
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Village Playhouse. uh So I believe the wonderful miss Carrie has distributed our brand new brochures. All off the press just opened the cases from the truck today.
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yet. I think these are going to be uh wonderful out in the community uh to kind of promote everything that's going on for the entire season through now now through July of next year. So take a look at those and see what all is happening at the Playhouse. I'm not going to go through the entire thing today because it won't be here until 11 o'clock. uh But I'll just retouch
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rehearsal. They're starting right about now, 7 o'clock. They're getting started. um Tony McCauley, the writer and composer, you know world renowned and award-winning uh writer, he is there working with the cast and the production team very closely on this project. uh That's a really unique opportunity. uh ‸ Second time we've been able to work with him um and our our volunteer performers. uh They're just having a great time so far. uh So that's happening. That show opens uh September 25th. uh But I don't see Teresa Clifton. She stole my thunder last time, so I'm gonna
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get her. We are going to do a sneak preview for those that are in attendance next Friday night at the Tuxes and Tails event, which is the fundraiser uh for the Central Brevard
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we'll have our cast there doing a small preview for anyone who's in attendance um at that event. But that's going to be a wonderful, good time. I want to raise some money for the Humane Society. Also in September, right after reopen Sherlock, we have
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um audition Monday, September 28th.
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and 12 year olds Tuesdays, September 29th, and 13 years
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uh
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uh Disney's Alice
in
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Wonderland Jr., and
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They'll work all through the uh year to put those shows together. And that's um that's going to be it for my my report this time. Any questions or anything
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‸ We are getting ready to uh open our 26th season, and it has been a lot of work. we got some other announcements coming. We're not quite ready to um reveal those yet, but uh some some wonderful, uh fun things happening for the 26th season at the Playhouse. and Great. Thank you very much. Thank you guys for having us.
thank you We're
going
to see you Friday night at the Touches and
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You're
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We're figuring that out. Who's going to ‸ be the
representatives
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Okay, we move on to consent.
So move. Second.
All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay. We'll go to ‸ public hearing. And uh Jack?
Yes, sir. This is item 6-1. This is an ordinance, so I'll have the city
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of the code of ordinances to modify the city
manager
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spending authority related to change orders and additional contracts required to complete construction projects authorized by the city council.
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For the repeal of prior
and consistent
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ordinances and resolutions, incorporation into the code, severability, and an effective date. is the second and final reading of this ordinance. Public hearing item. Mayor. ‸ Okay. We're gonna
‸ open this ordinance up to the uh public.
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like to speak on this ordinance? ‸ Okay. We're gonna ‸ close it. Bring it back to council. So
move
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uh ‸ second and final reading of an ordinance 12-2015, an ordinance of the city
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to Project Taylor,
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providing for proof of eligibility for exemption, providing a requirement for an annual report, providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions,
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this is second and final reading, also a public hearing item. And the item also um is requesting to allow the city manager to enter into an economic incentive agreement uh between the city and Project Taylor ‸ this ordinance passes. Mayor.
Great. uh Thank you. I'm going to open it up to the public again on this Taylor uh Project ordinance. Anybody want to speak on this? Excuse me.
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We'll close it to the audience. ‸ Okay. Second. All in favor? ‸ Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Good job. Good job.
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Good. Okay. We'll go to council business. ‸ And, um
uh
to
approve a resolution to commit general fund fund balance for capitalization replacement reserve and stabilization reserve. Each fiscal year during the budget process,
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that should be committed for the capital replacement reserve stabilization reserve and the health insurance reserve these these reserves are commit
our
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committed funds and can only be committed by city council by resolution and spent by city council through resolution normally if we don't change it we don't have to come back to council this year we would like to increase the the capital replacement reserve from 250 000 to 500 000
um
Considering the cost of uh big ticket items, we staff feels that this is probably um something that we should do because
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if we have a hurricane and we damage a fire apparatus, I mean, I don't think
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is going to help but but we would like to increase it. The other thing is we are going we are eliminating the um health insurance reserve. reserve um in October 1st, we're going to a fully funded, and we're basically transferring that reserve into a different reserve that that that we acquired by law to have. so what what And we're going to keep the stabilization reserve the same amount which is 9.5 million so we're asking council to commit those funds
Is there a state requirement on this,
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For the, well,
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on committed fund balance, but there is no requirement on how much we have to have.
Well, for the health insurance reserve, there is a state requirement, that amount
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and that amount ‸ will be appropriately recorded.
Okay. I'd like to make a motion to approve. Second.
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Thank
you.
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Yes,
sir. This is
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of the December
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2015 regular city council meeting due to the Christmas holiday.
Motion approved Any
debate on this? He
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Second. Okay. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? all right I don't want Don to miss this trip to North Carolina. so Yeah. Thank you.
That was quick, Don. That's good. Okay. um ‸ To
approve the resolution to amend the Financial Operation Manual, otherwise known as the
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as the official financial policy and procedure manual for general accounting, finance, admin, and purchasing. Basically, what we're what we're really um amending is the the uh fund balance policy to eliminate the um the health insurance part of it and to increase the cap the um capitalization i mean the um capitalization repair replacement
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It's wonderful bedtime reading.
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‸ No need for sleep and medication.
‸ Just a joke.
All
right. Kudos to you.
All right. Better than Johnny
Carson. Yeah. Thanks. Okay.
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I
wonder
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why Lisa was sitting there
so calmly.
Okay.
How are you? I see everybody. There are 24 street closures permitted per calendar year, and we have 23 approved so far. The Central Christ Church approached us wanting to shut off a small portion of Coquino Drive between Michigan Avenue and their property to host their fourth annual fall festival that they do every year. The main reason to do this is just the safety of the amount of people that are actually coming to the event. It's grown, which is wonderful for event coordinators, and they just want to make sure that those people that come will be able to walk back and forth on that street and enjoy the bounce houses and the slides and the car show that they ‸ do. The street closure would be in effect on Saturday, October 31st from 1 p.m. until 8 o'clock p.m. The great thing about this event is
that
all proceeds from the event do help them with the transportation costs of the youth group mission to Honduras. So the requested action is to approve the street closure for the fall festival for the church. ‸ I
do have
a question.
Yes,
ma'am.
If
we get another request, it's just automatically denied, or does it still come to council?
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So at this point, there are no other ones. You
know, but I was thinking that the 24 meant down here, basically.
Well, it doesn't specify that in the ordinance. It does not.
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You
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Yeah,
it is.
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There's no real division between their parking lot and the road. ‸ So you would have to close it for them to really do anything. You would.
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seen as the events have grown that they need to move back before. There are two other street closures that are similar to this,
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Street.
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Yeah,
they do the back-to-school project, and those are approved at the beginning of the year when I present to everyone.
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and we're going to ‸ bring the
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In a residential area.
Traffic
circulation
and there's
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alternative ways,
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you know, maybe excluding them.
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We'll
work on the ordinance and bring it
back. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Move our vote.
Okay. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
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Okay.
Thank you so much.
John, thanks. You'll bring it back.
Let's
re-look at
it. Sounds
like it needs tweaking a little bit.
Yeah, it does. I concur.
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Okay. Good job. Now
we're going to see
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business. And Tammy?
Yes, sir. This is to approve the three-year contract for
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union, PBA, for the contract term of
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And just a brief overview of this contract, our renegotiation process.
The
‸ city, some of the changes include a lot of our administrative because it is a three-year contract. So it gives us the opportunity to tweak language and clean things up. But one major change in here was a new pension article that was added and a summary of the changes of that in Article 16. ‸ And also a three-year contract on wages for wage increase every year.
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And
we added long-term disability,
to all the
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police officers.
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She wants to say anything else?
Great job, Chief. Great job, sir. Okay.
So
we got...
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All right. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
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It doesn't matter, ma'am. It's whatever you want,
miss care
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We know who made the motion. Okay.
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next agenda
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Is
to approve the three-year contract ‸ between the City of Cocoa and the Firefighter Union, IFF, for the contract term of October 1st, 2015 through September 30th, 2018. And again, this is a three-year contract with wage increases annually, and we did make some changes to the pension article and other administrative changes.
So moved.
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And there's
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Thank you all for coming.
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anybody here from the police department.
It means a lot. The chief's here.
Well, the chief's here, but he's not their union rep.
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City Manager Tammy. What's
good? ‸ Great job, ma'am. With regard to both contracts, I want to thank both of the chiefs and thank Tammy,
thank
finance, and Matt,
‸ as
well as working with ‸ the IFF fire. I mean,
‸ it
was very productive conversations, productive dialogue, and appreciate the just, it was a really good process, as well as with ‸ PBA. And ‸ it's good to know that we have ‸ both of our public safety unions under contract for three years. And we've addressed some potential issues down the road to mitigate so we don't get caught up with some legislation that passed this year that might affect pensions. So I
think
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both of the, you know,
and
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Rusty. They're in leadership. Yep. They're leaders.
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All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
Thank you, gentlemen and ladies.
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Rusty, how long is it, did you say, since you've had a contract?
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Yeah, I've
never seen.
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And you've got over 20 years, right?
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and a half.
How many years you have, sir?
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He's just a baby.
Those are just, these are some of our firefighters for those.
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Hard work is good, hard.
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Thanks for the
pension reform and everything
we're with.
Yes,
indeed.
That's huge.
It
shows a lot. And ‸ you guys do a great job. And ‸ we're excited to go and move in the future with you.
We've got lots of fun stuff going on with you guys. So we're excited. Oh, yeah.
All kinds of stuff. You know, Mr.
Mayor,
if I might, while we're on the, we're talking about fire department, if I might, I just, you know, haven't seen anybody but you and me go up on the top of that tower truck.
Except.
Nobody's invited me.
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as I
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all invited whenever you decide to come by. Okay, sir.
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jump off?
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that bungee cord.
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I'm not
sure it could ‸ be any more dangerous than riding with some of our police officers.
Woo!
Oh!
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I've got to get back at
him
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for not being here tonight.
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wage increases for general employees. Basically, what ‸ we're trying to implement, staff is recommending setting an ‸ eligible hire date for employees to be eligible for a wage increase on October 1. Currently, employees could be hired September 20th and get a wage increase on October 1. So we're just trying to establish some guidelines for that.
Okay.
And in the future, I just wanted to add, we're in the process of updating our employee handbook, and this will be part of our revised employee handbook.
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Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Good. Okay.
And finally, ‸ this is
the
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requested action to approve the proposed fiscal year 2016 benefit renewal for our medical, dental, vision, flexible spending, and life insurances with associated providers and authorize the city manager to sign related agreements.
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insurance increase for PBA and IAFF and general employees for fiscal year 2016. So
move
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Second.
All in favor?
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I need to
add another. When I wrote, when this agenda item was written, ‸ we didn't have an agreement with the LIUNA contract to absorb the core plan increase of the health insurance. And tomorrow, they're going to vote on a new contract, which will be brought to council on September 8th. Okay. So this resolution will be modified at that time. Okay.
Very good. So they're voting tomorrow, you said? Mm-hmm. Tomorrow
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Yeah.
All right. Let's just stand up. Call a question, Mr. Mayor, please, sir.
I thought we ‸ already voted on
it.
Yeah, we voted.
All right.
I missed it, too.
You both voted.
You both voted. I don't recall it.
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we carry? Yeah. ‸ Okay.
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Hey, I'm the oldest guy sitting here.
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160.
‸ All right.
Okay, Jack. It's way bigger than any of the other two. Yeah. You make it happen, bro. You make it happen.
All right.
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in the workers' compensation fund. Basically, we've had some unanticipated rises in medical costs and settlement of claims. What we're doing is
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excess anticipated revenues that we have received already. ‸ So we're not having to take any revenues out of the reserves or anything.
Okay.
question
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to approve. Second.
All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Thank you.
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Anybody in the audience from an advisory board or a committee
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would like to speak?
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Okay. We'll go to the city administration. Go that way.
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I just want to add something.
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tomorrow. For those of you that are on our city's insurance, the open enrollment process starts tomorrow. If you want to make any changes or if you're not on our city insurance and you want to get on it, now is the opportunity to do that. So if you have any questions, let me know.
No, I'm not. That's cool.
Yeah.
‸ Thank you, God. Okay. Thank you. Jack?
Yes, sir. Thank you. Just one item update, and I think I mentioned it at the budget workshop, but I'll say it again. The ‸ status of the tank, we had put the structural repairs out for bid, and the bids came in about two weeks ago. We evaluated those bids and we're ‸ ready to award that.
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next council meeting. It wasn't ready for tonight. But if you remember,
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But what we'd like to do is staff would like to issue the
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started. And in two weeks, we'll come back with the full, I think it's $682,000 was the final number. But we'll bring a full agenda item in. And really, the only thing that will really occur in the next two weeks is probably just shop drawings submittal and really pre-ordering materials.
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because
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So contractors willing to take that at this point, a partial PO, but we wanted to disclose that tonight here under reports. So I'm here to answer your questions on that if you have any.
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Thank you. Steve?
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I just want to mention, in case
anyone's
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not aware, ‸ there was a meeting scheduled for tomorrow night on the Riverside Drive on-street parking issue. Public meeting we were going to have, due to some notification issues, we're going to reschedule that meeting, so it has been postponed at this point.
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I've been emailing people.
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along Riverside Drive, along the stretch there, to ‸ notify people as well. So the word is getting it out to everybody. And I have received some calls today from some individuals ‸ asking when it's going to be rescheduled. So if anybody ‸ is listening or watching online, just want to let them know as well that the meeting for tomorrow night has been postponed, and we will be rescheduling at a later date. Okay.
I'll say ‸ some more in a minute about that, too.
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I will. ‸ A
rough week
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Yes, sir. Mr. Pratt, I'd like to take a second and just recognize Tammy and the manager and finance and Matt. Because while I sit in, myself and Chief Redmond sit in on the firefighter negotiation, they sit in ‸ all three of them. And I think the success of having two done and one about to be done speaks for itself. Because without that
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think ‸ all three of them. So I just want to take a chance to say that's very important. ‸ There's a lot of behind-the-scenes work that goes on to get that done.
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Also, we will be going ‸ mid-September,
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inspection on the two engines. So we expect them to be here right at the end of September.
Cool, right.
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Yes. ‸ When they come back, they'll spend a week
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South Florida equipment, having the radios put in them.
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And we'll set up for a ceremony again? Yes, sir.
We'll be doing a housing ceremony for those as well.
Great.
Once we get them in, and once they get here, Tony
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have them probably for a day or two to get them in registered in the fleet.
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They will drive them down.
Okay. Yeah, that's pretty cool.
And we're looking to get a workshop to discuss our station location study toward the end of the month,
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look forward to that.
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We do look forward to that. That's exciting.
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It's very exciting. I am looking forward to that.
Yep. Yep. Great. Okay. Thanks.
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just like to echo Chief Prince's comments about the negotiations and thank Tammy and City Manager Mickey and everybody that helped us get ‸ it done. And that's it for me.
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and he's good at it. And he's very knowledgeable. This is the second year, right, John?
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Don't pump him up too much. But
anyways,
if you're looking for a raise. It takes a team to get all this stuff done, so I appreciate it. ‸ I kind of lay off him a little bit when he's in that ‸ mode.
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That's great.
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All right. That's it, Mike. Yes, sir. Good.
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‸ Couple more months.
I heard the nasty rumor of
it.
She's trying to sneak out earlier than that. I'm
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that's a nasty rumor.
‸ I
used
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hey,
now it's closed. Right. Ed?
No reports, sir.
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on paving.
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Yes, sir. We awarded the contract for paving last council meeting,
a
couple of council meetings ago. Yes, we'll be doing Plaza Parkway, a little
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No, these streets need ‸ the full mill. They need a ‸ full
deal? Okay. The
Indian River Drive is where the roots came up.
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Yeah,
even though that asphalt wasn't that bad, ‸ the roots kind of messed it up. Right. We'll be having to mill down an inch and put an inch back.
Okay.
Thank you.
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But I drive through it every day, so...
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It's all cocoa.
Remember
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Are you finished, Mr.
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Yes, sir.
You were in attendance with one of our meetings here that we had
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and just wanted to maybe, if you can just share a little light on Peachtree Street
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please, sir. The situation at hand. Okay.
Well, Peachtree Street is going on a couple different fronts. Right now, what we call
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is hard at work getting that done. Utilities also has some other projects
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US 1 and US 1 to the Indian River Drive. So that's an upcoming project. Between those, Peachtree Street will pretty much be, you know, redone from end to end. So, new ‸ water line from end to end, reclaimed pipes, new pavement, and mostly new sidewalk. Thank you.
Great.
Thank you, sir.
All right.
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Could you just can I ask you a favor? Sure. Anthony had asked me to go to a resolutions meeting at the League of Cities last what was it, a couple of weeks ago now?
On a
Friday?
It
was two weeks now. Two weeks. Yeah, and I went to this resolution meeting. I guess it's the League of Cities. They adopt all these resolutions. Or they vote on them up or down, and then they go as recommendations to the state legislature. But just in brief, I walked into a hornet's nest with the solar panels. I know Bob Harvey would be fired up.
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over it, that the let's just say, corporate America, big business, big bully business, was trying to basically control ‸ solar panels in Florida for like 30 years. And they wanted to put this in the state constitution so you could never get it out.
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mean,
it
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Yeah, there's a proposed ‸ Florida constitutional amendment regarding solar power. ‸ That proposed ‸ citizen initiative is being reviewed by the Florida Supreme Court to determine ‸ whether or not it should go on the ballot in 2016. Wow.
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amicus brief or brief with the Florida Supreme Court asking the court not to allow it on the ballot because there's a lot of, you know, hidden possible impacts on ‸ municipal home rule authority that are not articulated at all on the ballot question. So while solar power and solar power and
solar energy
is supported by the league, this particular initiative would undermine municipal home rule authority. So on that basis, the league
is as
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filed its position. And there was a couple of elected ‸ local elected officials that wanted the league to withdraw that brief from the Florida Supreme Court. And that was the hornet's nest that ‸ you're talking about at the committee meeting where they were trying to get the league to withdraw it.
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should go on the ballot or not.
Right. That's right.
And
it was quite shocking, I mean, I thought. And then you helped lead the fight. Well,
I
was one of the committee members.
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It was interesting. I appreciate it.
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yes, well
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I agree. Okay.
Well, thank you.
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All right. So we've got ‸ Mr. City Manager.
Yes, Mr. Mayor, and Council. As you know, I was supposed to be presenting at the National Brownfields Conference next week. And I will be monitoring the ‸ hurricane track.
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all likelihood I will be canceling that. I've already apprised them that the of the situation.
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Where's the conference
that
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So but and they have my presentation. Maybe somebody else can give it. I had to provide it ‸ in advance. So anyway, I just
want
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to let you know that the staff is working, making preparations. There's ‸ a lot of uncertainty related to ‸ the future intensity with the
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forecasts. And there's mainly two
track
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scenarios that ‸ they're looking at right now. So right.
So
we're monitoring it. It looks
pretty serious. Maybe it won't be
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strong. Well, they're
saying the 5 o'clock update
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not north of Bahamas, but north central Bahamas at about a cat one. You know, and so
But as we all know ‸ There's plenty of time. Yes.
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it could do anything.
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a half.
Wow. John, thanks. Okay.
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To my beloved council members, city staff, and all great citizens, this fine city of Coco. I'm happy to say that the kids are in. This is week number two. I want to command Johnny Wilkinson on a victory against Titusville High School this past Friday. And we will be taking on the Palm Bay Pirates this up and coming Friday at beautiful downtown Palm Bay at their school. On my list, we
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the opportunity
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two in due respect. We had a great meeting, a very informative meeting at district two meeting. I think Deputy Mayor Warner did an excellent job in commandeering that meeting and ‸ making sure that the citizens had their views voiced.
Even though they were all from district one?
That's
why you're saying that.
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We also had the opportunity yes, sir. We also had the opportunity to go to district two again to their tractor supply grand opening, the company
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tractor supply company.
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as well. We had a wonderful time. The mayor flew in on a red-eyed jet from Orlando trying to get there on time.
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up and we had a great time. I also want to say thank you for everyone that attended the public meeting in reference of Florida Avenue. That was a great event. And in conclusion, ladies and gentlemen, buy local, spend local, keep it local. So thank you very much.
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Tyler?
Mr. Furbush?
Mr.
Yes.
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local.
No. ‸ Big deal.
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your money
‸ here. That's right.
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You sure don't? No report. So I get your time, too?
Yes, get his time on it. Okay.
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Just a couple things. I had asked it came up at the district two meeting that along 520 especially there's some problems with, you know, people blocking intersections so that traffic can't flow and, you
know,
if there's a train coming, people are stuck sometimes for 15 or 20 minutes while they can't get out of Washington Street. Well, it's not just Washington Street. It kind of happens all over town. People block intersections with people trying to cross. It even happens on 520.
I
see it every day.
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intersections so that traffic can flow. I know we have a sign right by fire station number one that tells you not to block the intersection and people do it every single day even with a big old sign there.
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intersection when that siren goes off on that fire truck and it's getting ready to come out. You see those people and they're just like it's like, you know, ‸ you deserve that panic because you blocked the intersection.
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But I also just talked to Sam the other day traveling the road that Mr. Furbish and I travel every day.
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clippings
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which I didn't want to do. That's not safe these days. So I talked to Mr. Belden about it the other night at the code enforcement meeting and he told me to report it. So I've asked Sam to put something in the newsletter also to remind people that you're not supposed to put your grass clippings in the storm drains. It's not the proper place for them, especially on Riverside Drive because those storm drains empty immediately into the river. And I figure if there's a professional company mowing 10 or 15 lawns along ‸ Riverside Drive, they're doing it everywhere. So maybe as a reminder to the citizens, if you have a professional company, please talk about them and ask them not to push your grass clippings into the river. We're fighting really, really hard to clean the river up and that certainly doesn't help any.
And
I didn't get to go to Tractor Supply even though it was in District 2 and it's one of my favorite stores and I wanted to be there because I had to stay at the League of Cities meeting to vote since I was the voting delegate. But it was a very, very informative conference. Learned a lot of things from some of our neighboring cities and got to meet some newly elected officials and made some good contacts. I was fortunate enough to get to have dinner with a longtime member of Mayor Dyer's staff and we hopefully will be getting some kudos from Mayor Dyer at some point in the future.
So
yeah. Good call. And Mr. Blake, you were just talking about the football team.
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Did I see that?
Yes,
ma'am.
‸ We also state ranked number two in the state of Florida. Yes, ma'am. But I
could have swore I saw some national
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Yeah,
so hopefully we'll get a lot of people to come out and support our football team this year even if they don't have kids playing. Okay. That's it for me. Thank you all.
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Okay, we'll finish up.
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as what I have, I noticed
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‸ against rail over the banana river. And ‸ they're also going to recommend going through the Air Force Station to link up with the existing rail ‸ for the port situation.
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Should we just wait or should we put something out early and say, hey, we're not for coming across the, you know, the rivers ‸ going through 528 and we suggest they go through the Air Force Station. I
think
it's better to open your mouth now rather than keep your mouth shut. So and
then they think you're you're on
board. Right. So John, can we come in, ‸ vote on a resolution for something like that?
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this I don't want this to get out of hand.
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I
think the county's doing the right thing. Okay, then we go to Mr. Blake had asked a few meetings ago about just the opportunities of like, you know, like the riverfront parks. Yeah,
we're trying to put together an inventory.
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Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, everybody, the trellis is getting redone and getting the roof on it, which is what it needed the whole time. So it's going to look great. The
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roof, that's halfway done.
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Yeah,
tin roof.
Yep. Oh, I missed that. Okay, good. So, yes,
we're replacing the wood trellis with a real roof. So when it rains, you can stay really dry.
That's why it's two by four.
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Plus, if it rains, you can sit ‸ under most of it.
That'll be good.
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Steve, boy, you're getting abused on the emails. And, buddy, I'm sorry about that. And let me tell you. And this was a job.
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there. Back in 1995 or 6, a company came here to build big
condo
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They build big condos,
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You know, and they eventually did it. And I guess it was 19 years ago,
I
guess, a series of meetings they had with the city and probably the public. They had, you know, their ‸ site plan showed probably like six or eight or ten, you know, visitor parking places for 138 units. I think every unit has two parking places. But they had very few visitor parking. Okay. And for whatever reason, and I really don't know, and I live down that area, for whatever reason, people were parking on the street for ‸ 17 years
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So,
you know, this is, you know, and
I
asked Steve in a previous meeting, hey, let's have a meeting on this stuff. But at the same time, behind the scenes, I asked the city manager, hey, look up,
you
know, look up ‸ that project. And is there anything built in that was passed by a previous council to, you know, park on the road? You know what I mean? Because I
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to know. And I was told by, let's just say a very high-ranking official back in the day, that there was.
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And they had told me that there was nothing written into the site plan. So, you know, unfortunately, it's like 21 Riverside. You buy a condo that's three feet off the line or you buy a condo that's got just a few parking visitor spaces.
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But, you know, certainly what we've seen the last couple weeks with the attitude of the neighbors and, you know, they live in the houses, I mean, they're not going to put up with any parking anywhere.
And
so, you know, I don't know if they'll come to us or we're just going to enforce current, you know, the current code.
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I mean, there's, ‸ if that project was okayed with six or eight or ten visitor spaces,
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parking, I mean, that's just ‸ a tough one.
Well, the thing is, there's no, there are not, there aren't any no parking signs along that whole Riverside Drive.
Right.
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and Oak, there are no parking signs. Right. I mean, as much as this hurts me to say,
I
mean, truthfully, this problem was created 19 years ago.
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Right? That's right. And ‸ I,
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Yeah. Mike? Brenda?
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With the citizens,
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There's no parking up on my end of Riverside Drive.
Yeah. So. You know,
and it's no different than that end.
I
mean, the road's no wider, no more narrow, but, you know, if somebody parked up on my end of River Road, people would be having a stroke and calling the police department to get them out of the street.
I
mean, there's,
‸ you
know.
Right. And there's no, there aren't any no parking signs up there either. No, but
they
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Yeah, there's nothing else they can do. For the
audience,
we
have to do this because we're under the sunshine law. This is the only time we can talk. Okay. So you get this at the end of the meeting. So, I mean, the thing is, is, you know, for whatever reason, people have been parking there for 17 years on and off on that street. You know, I just got used to seeing it. And I just.
It's a huge problem, though, for walkers and bikers and
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because you get out there, go around a bunch of cars and there's another car coming. Right.
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you can be in trouble. Right.
You know, you know what I was. My answer to all that. ‸ We talk about the direct impact and the people that reside there that will meet and have the direct impact. And my thing is,
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have the immediate direct impact because I'm not going
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Right. That to me, I would, to me, I would rather err on the side of safety, safety, safety again. So absolutely. I can't. That's why I would stand with the citizens there. And if it's like you
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concur with you wholeheartedly. If it's not on your side of the tracks on that end, shouldn't be on this side of the end. And we've had people come forward and speak. You were there.
Mary
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you were there. So clearly beyond a shadow of
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doubt. That's where I stand on that issue.
I mean, I shouldn't say this, but ‸ it's not really a council problem. I mean, we could hear it. We could do anything. You
know,
we can do it. But it's ‸ already in, it is what it is. I mean, right? John, what's your input on this?
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bunch of no parking signs along River.
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I
mean, one way to possibly do that is to adopt an ordinance and just declare certain streets not eligible for parking.
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You've got to use signs.
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are ugly.
One of the other things that you could do is, you know, and I can, we can meet with, I'll meet with Ed and Steve, is one thing we discussed is the possibility of a narrowing the lanes and then putting a dedicated bike lane. So then you got no choice. You can't park in a bike lane.
‸ Right.
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And then that gives safe passage for future events that we have, activities.
it's
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a good idea. Because
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you know, and you can slim down the size of those lanes.
Well, that also makes traffic move a little slower. Yep. Which is never a bad thing.
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ago, you know, and it was approved by the previous councils back. I mean, it's, what was approved? Uh, that the site plan for that project ‸ was approved with six or eight or 10, whatever it is. Very few visitor parking on site.
On the street? No.
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On the site itself. So then.
And you go around the circle. Yeah. I understand that. Yeah.
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I
understand that.
Okay. So I'm just saying it's. But when you get down to the street, this is public road. Absolutely.
You know, and, and. I think this is, I think what, what the city manager just said is a very viable, uh, you know, you don't have to put up ugly old signs. You, you put down a bike path and you can't park in a bike
but
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It's simple.
And you know what? River roads always needed a bike path.
Yeah. Maybe it's a
good idea.
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Is there enough on river edge to narrow those lanes down?
I
mean, we've got some of them on us one that are down as well as the width is what? 10 feet.
If you were to design a new road, a bike path would have to be five feet. And right now we have 27 feet. Just take away 10 feet for two bike paths.
You
have some.
I'm
just saying one,
on one side.
Well, on one side, I, to have a two directional bike path, I don't think we could do that. Uh, we could stripe a three foot lane and just not mark it as officially for bicycle. It
can
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be used for bicycle.
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two or three feet off the gutter and leave, uh, you know, two 10 foot lanes, ‸ which would be pretty. That
won't preclude people from parking.
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bike lane, then they're, they can sit there and claim, I'm not parking in a bike lane.
So you've got to have five feet for each direction? That,
that's the modern design.
Oh, okay. I'd have to
research if we were to restripe it.
10 feet total, that takes up a whole bunch of that roadway. Uh, it takes up 17. It
doesn't leave enough for two lanes of cars.
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But there are some lanes on US one because of the constraints that were ‸ narrow, narrowed down if I recall correctly, 10 feet, if not nine and a half on phase one.
On vehicle lanes? Yeah.
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10 and 10 and a half. ‸ And
that's at 45 miles an hour. That's what I'm getting at. And ‸ DOT said, could they,
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I
mean, it just, something maybe
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You see
the
problem we're having with them on 520. To get them to do that would probably be, uh. They
wouldn't be involved in this because it's a local road.
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at, pull out those
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So let us, let
us.
Come back.
Come back, you
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Boom. And if people are. All right,
listen,
listen, just
a
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minute.
Um,
real fast,
uh,
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uh, initiative. So, so you think about Central
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uh,
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guess
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but it's kind of the counterbalance to what's Palm Bay and Melbourne are doing.
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So we're going
to
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uh,
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council attending that meeting?
I need to know more about the meeting.
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No. Then if it's not open to the general public, then appropriate is for two members of the council to go there and discuss matters that could ‸ come before, um, this. Okay. You said not appropriate, not appropriate, not a bit.
Somebody coughed right when you said not. Okay.
Okay.
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Okay.
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report back on that, but that's significant.
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Okay. And also, um, another problem real fast. And this is, uh, in your, in your computers. This is the top 12. Phone calls? Yeah.
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Just real fast.
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It just so
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do with
our, our crime rate. Okay?
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Now, hold on, I want to, I want
to,
in brief,
I
put some notes on there. It's, uh, ‸ obviously,
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Okay?
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my district? Yeah,
exactly.
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top, uh, 12. Sorry.
And the Dixon Boulevard one
in
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Dixon.
Yeah.
And, and all I'm saying guys is, do you want, I mean, I'm not going to ask you a stupid question. If we want to lower crime rate significantly, are we going to keep working our police department to the bone and, and, and have them doing so much reactive work? You know, I, ‸ this is probably the clearest thing I could show you of any council in 100 years,
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You know, we're going
to
have a chance to talk about this coming up because I am going to call a meeting in about a month or so, uh,
on
crime workshop. And then we're going to do a, uh, we're going to do a crime summit at the end, but we have to face this at some point.
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Yeah.
Wow.
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Yep. And, you know, I don't want to give you a bunch of drama tonight, but think about this. We just digest it. We have to do something. Okay.
That's amazing. I guess we should
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They're way down there.
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‸ to me.
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renting to anybody.
Yeah. Okay. And then
we
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got a crosswinds, and what we're going to do, ‸ John, your administration is going to write a letter or talk to him, right? ‸ Well, I'll talk to some board members too. Okay. I've been saying that, but now we've got the data. I've
got the data.
Yeah.
Okay. And, um.
I have a question, Mr. Mayor, that maybe the police chief can answer. ‸ This second highest place here, the cheaper, are those calls of a retail theft nature, or are those, um.
Walmart.
Other
types of.
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Yeah. The majority of them are retail thefts.
Okay.
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They
do, yes.
But
we have to, even if
they
catch somebody, we have to go. We
respond to all of them. Okay. Brenda, real fast, we're going to close this up. How, how many of these in your district?
One, two, three, four.
Okay.
Four. Four in my district.
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And
we all agree that this, they're heavy.
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heavy, right? Big time. All right. Okay. I just want you to digest it. We have to do something going into the fall here. As far as make plans to address.
that's
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not fair to the people who live in the neighborhood across the street either, you know?
No.
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I do too.
‸ That's
the
reason I'm
asking
Ed, and they're doing, you
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Okay. So that's it, folks.
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Uh,
the last thing is why there's flags. And, uh, they don't end pretty, but in the end, that's the best part.
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Thank you.
Good
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