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Who won the
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Mine was sort of silly. I tell the dude doctors. How
well did you perform
ma'am?
Oh, I didn't perform at all. Well, actually the police department won the people's choice. They did blood work. The, um, Cafe Americano got second place people's choice.
Nice people.
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choice.
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Good.
They did, they made pastries. I know that.
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Welcome,
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I need to stand. Thank
you.
Let's pray. Father, we just thank you for this evening. We thank you for this time to come and take care of the city's business. We ask you to be with our city leaders as they go about making decisions tonight. And,
Father,
we just ask you to be with us with all we do.
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One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for
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Mayor Parrish.
Here.
Deputy Mayor Warner. ‸ Councilman Blake.
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Thank you.
That's great. I was here. That's good.
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It makes sense.
Yeah.
All right. Mr. Mayor. Yes, sir. Let's do it.
I'd
like
to amend the agenda.
mayor and the
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Council business to add an item to discuss on the November 24, 2015 City Council meeting. And we're going to discuss that under the number five. And we recommend that we cancel the meeting for the pressing city business of which staff is aware of since it's Thanksgiving week, two days before Thanksgiving. And we'll discuss it at that time.
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And
then make that motion.
I'll make a motion that we,
are
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a second for Don's motion to amend the agenda.
‸ All right. Which one was this? On the council business he stated? Yes.
Number
five, sir. Number three, four, council business.
Make a motion that we approve the agenda of a regular meeting October 27, 2015, and
the
as presented.
Or with the amendments.
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Okay. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Man, Don's going right up. That's good. All right. So we've got awards presentations. Jim? Yeah.
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Number one, I wanted to thank the city for highlighting the spirit, the
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So thank you for that.
Sam
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and everybody that was involved. It's pretty cool. If you get an opportunity, come take a look at it. And we're here tonight for
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And some of our council and mayors have been involved in the past. And we're going to invite everybody to come again. This year, it's November 12th through the 15th. We have several Grammy winners. We have some NAMI winners, which are Native American Music Award recipients. Literally, probably 20 of the best flute players on the planet will be at this event.
The
great thing, it's a family-friendly, free event.
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And we have several, maybe 60-plus vendors and crafts and art people there. So it's also a Native American art show as well. It will be held at the Wickham Park, which is in Melbourne. Everybody, I'm sure, here knows where it's at.
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There's a band shell. Bring a blanket and a chair. Long hours, I think we're doing 10 to 9. Friday, Saturday night, half day, Thursday, and then 10 to 5 on Sunday, if I'm not mistaken. If you want to check the schedule, you can go to natalrhythmsfestival.com.
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are traveling, the musicians. ‸ Most of them are coming from across the country to be at this event. Like I said, it is free. It's our gift to the community. All our people that work, our volunteers, our committee members put this on every year. It takes a lot of time and energy and money. And we've been lucky over the years to have good sponsors.
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event. But this is something that is near and dear to our heart as we approach November.
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This is one of the reasons we put this event together. And like I said, it's a ‸ free event and it's a gift to our community. So at this time, what I would like to do is, thanks to the city, they put a proclamation together.
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The mayor signed it. And I'm sure our
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all supports this event. And hopefully everybody will be here. I think Mayor Mahan from ‸ Melbourne will be there.
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We invited him. He's been there before to open our ceremony, which is on Saturday.
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It's always been an
educational event. Tons of people show up. It's been family friendly. I mean, as you alluded to earlier, it's a win-win.
Yeah.
And a lot of education takes place. And the thing I love about it, everyone is included. Everyone feels a part of it.
‸ A lot of kids come out to this event. It's cool. We have teepees out there. Sometimes we have horses out there, birds of prey. One year we had some cougars out there. Right. Big cats and stuff. So ‸ it's a pretty cool event that we bring to Brevard County. I think it's been one of the better ones that I've been to and I've been doing and going and dancing at some of these events.
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for almost 40 years. And this is a really cool event.
It's
pretty prestigious. So at this time, what I'd like to do is read the proclamation. And if you guys can bear with me, I'm trying to fight off a cold. So proclamation, whereas throughout our history, American Indian peoples have been an integral part of American character.
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they remain a vital cultural, political, social, and moral presence. And whereas travel America has brought to the great country certain values and ideas that have become ingrained in the American spirit.
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together to build a great country. And
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Now therefore,
I,
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Mayor Henry Perry.
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Heritage
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observe the month with appropriate
programs,
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our citizens to come out and celebrate this event. It's very spiritual. It's a spiritual event. It's four days of music, beautiful music, flute music, and drumming, dancing. And there's some really beautiful artwork, Native American artwork as well. So please come as our guest. And what's...
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maybe like 10,000 people over three, four days, up to 15,000.
Maybe
15,000 last year. Wow. The great thing is it seems like it's a lot of people, but this park's so spread out.
Big.
Yeah, it's really big. We've never had any issues with the number of people, the quality.
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They gave us five digital billboards in Orlando. So we're getting traffic from all over the... All over... Actually, all over the country, but we're getting a lot of people in Florida now, especially in Brevard County. And they're traveling ‸ long distances to be with us. The other cool thing is the park is giving special rates if you want to come camp.
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It's beautiful out there with facilities. It is. So I'd recommend coming and bring your family. The other thing is this time of year is it's just absolutely gorgeous.
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So you're sleeping under the stars, hear beautiful music. ‸ There's actually a lot of natural Native American food that will be there too. So they have fried burgers and Indian tacos and buffalo burgers and on a dog and corn chowder, stuff that you cannot get anywhere else, anytime ‸ other than this time of year at these events. So these are real Native American people cooking Native food, all ‸ very healthy food too. So anyways, thank you for your time. We're going to perform. Yeah, please do. Introduce yourself.
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I'm Zeta Gibbs. I do the registering for the workshops. We have people coming from British Columbia, Washington, New York State, Pennsylvania, Arizona. It's amazing. One is coming 3,500 miles just to be at our workshops. And any of you that would like to learn to play a flute, we can teach you to play in five minutes. You might not be good, but we will be playing.
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That's one other point. Last year, this is kind of funny, I'll share something with you. ‸ We have a big number of people following us on Facebook through Sundancer
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I actually had people that wrote to me, and they were from England and France and Germany and Paris. And they all said they were coming to this event. And, of course, you go, yeah, okay. I said, well, if ‸ and when you
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Every one of those people that said they were coming from across the globe, they came. And they introduced themselves. And I met their families and their spouses. And that's pretty impressive to have something ‸ this special that people are coming traveling. We got a school day? Okay, go ahead.
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are going to do a special event program just for the students. We have been contacting the elementary schools because second and fifth grade can meet many of their benchmarks for Native American Heritage Month by attending the festival. Right now, our count is at ‸ about 747 public school children will be joining us. Awesome.
Wow. I have one last thing to add to that.
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and we're inviting all the teachers and all the students from
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and around the state, if you want to come, we can actually sign paperwork that said that you came and maybe you can get extra credit for attending this. It's a cultural event. It's a good way to get extra credit if you need it. ‸ Okay? And, Mike, you know, of course, your children, anybody that wants to come out to and volunteer or help us with the event, we welcome you. We have the scouts coming. There's a lot of different organizations, a lot of cultural groups that are supporting us. So anybody that wants to come hang out and help, you're more than welcome to do that. And
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So on that note, I'm going to go ahead and turn the mic over. So thank you, everybody. Hopefully we'll see you there. Can you
introduce your support? You guys. People in the background too behind you as well.
Come on. You guys come up and introduce yourself. Because I'm losing my voice.
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I'm David Jenkins,
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I'm Patricia Jenkins and I'm
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I love the people. That much Cherokee.
Michael Blake, Blackfoot.
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Thanks for coming. Appreciate it. Sam? You're up.
Thank you, Mayor, Council. I just wanted to make a quick presentation. We ‸ are in the midst of our food drive, and I just wanted to let everyone know we have flyers outside. ‸ Each year we do a
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and it's kind of a little competition between the city of Cocoa and the city of Rockledge.
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So we definitely want to make sure we collect as much food as possible. So we have drop donation locations here at City Hall. We have all the fire stations, police department are also collecting as well for us. So we have all the locations.
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so you can find out all the locations. And we also have Historic Cocoa Village Association is going to come on board and have some locations at the different merchants downtown. So we will update that site with those donation locations throughout the village as well.
So
stop by and donate food. ‸ The flyers are outside ‸ on your way out, and it has all the items that we can accept for donations, and everything goes to the sharing center. So we're accepting donations until December 18th. And that's all I have. Any questions?
Thank you.
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December 18th is when we'll make the drop over at the sharing center.
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And it started October 5th.
So
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But, no, we have locations here at City Hall. So if you guys, anybody wants to donate, we're taking donations. So thank you very much.
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Ed? Yes, sir.
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think
I don't see it on here.
I don't see it either, but I've got it on my iPad. All right.
I can definitely...
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It's coming.
Okay.
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It was submitted with the agenda item.
Oh, no. No, they would not have it. ‸ Because they...
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I don't
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Well...
Is there a way to display the agenda, the PDF?
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Can you show it from the... Maybe if you go to... ‸ Or ‸ go
to the website and pull it up and...
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Perfect.
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Well, just... Hey, take it here.
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2015 has been a very busy year.
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It kind of looks like we... Put
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Ed.
We did a lot of projects and I wanted to... Yes, sir. Give a button.
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Big.
All right.
All right. Thanks.
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All right. Sorry about that. Public Works has been busy. FY 2015, if Council recalls, about a year ago, when we did the budget for last year, y'all came up with all these projects and strategic projects that impacted the city. And a lot of
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Public Works. So we were very busy this year. I just wanted to highlight some of them that we got through here. Just... I don't want the shovel awards, so I'll go through these real quick. These are all highlighted,
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that was completed, actually, through August. We don't have the September bills yet, which is the end of the year, which will make these totals even higher. But this was work that my staff did. We got complete. And let me go through these one by one. Peachtree Street. Obviously, the ‸ total cost of the project is $2.6 million. It's not done yet. Obviously, it's 30% complete, but includes utilities, new sidewalks, bike paths, and the diamond in the square. So that's what it will look like without the traffic signal on the bottom. So... We also identified, through our sidewalk and pavement plan, over 600 sidewalk deficiencies. And you can see some of those. We used an innovative method where instead of replacing the whole slab, we used a diamond cutter, a contractor, and cut them within a few hours. So instead of impacting homes, they were in and out. Sometimes people didn't even realize they were there. So we corrected about half of our deficiencies within a few weeks. Michigan and Range Road.
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We got trees planted. That project's done, so we have a complete link. ‸ It'll go from basically US 1 all the way around to the high school. You can use
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sidewalk the whole way. Thank you. So that's... We're trying to fill in some of our links.
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locations around the city. One of my favorite projects is our street name blade signs. We're busy getting that done. I wanted to put a picture of an old sign, but they were so ugly, I was just embarrassed to put it up there. So these are our new signs with our new logo and the city branding, and we're very proud of that. This is a project that my guys did in-house. They relocated the non-existent pedestrian crossing. We got around the Storm Drain Inlet, and actually the city crews, the shop made the handrails, so this was all in-house project, and it was well needed.
Yeah, very... That's impressive. Yeah.
Gina Myra. We completed the sidewalks and the curbs in this area.
Looks good.
This
is the
city's new housing subdivision. We got four houses and four more lots. Now they all have sidewalks and curbs. Pinecrest Cemetery, that was a new project that the city took on. You can see the new paving and the new flagpole, And what you don't see in the back is all the vegetation we cleaned up.
Good. Very good. Yeah,
that was a very nice improvement there. City streetlights, we replaced all the streetlights downtown with new LED fixtures. On Brevard, that made way so we could install the Christmas lights, so that was all part of the same project.
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We got all the last ‸ ones in just a few weeks ago. Actually, the last one, I think, was in front of Travis Hardware.
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100 years old next year, we wanted to get ‸ the lady in fine shape.
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windows were taken out and restored off-site.
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and refinished them and restored them to natural condition. Very proud of that job. And she's ready.
She needed a facelift.
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She did. And she's ready for next year. So we're excited about that. Our welcome signs. You would not believe how much work these welcome signs were getting permits.
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It's taken us a year to get this far with FDOT. That's just to get signs done. That's to get permission to put the signs in DOT.
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These are the signs that will be under the Community Aesthetic Feature. And actually, some of these, we put temporary signs up. We had existing signs. We put temporary signs, and they will get different mounting, and some of them will get different sizes.
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Everyone knows where that is. Police station.
Yes.
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up. You know, it's hard to see that
in black on gray. Black on gray? That was...
You
drive by there, and look at it. No, ‸ the sign is nice, but it's hard to see the black on the gray. They should have been, you know, white or something like that where you could see it.
‸ Yeah, where it says police department, it's hard to see the police department.
Yeah.
But that's on purpose.
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And ‸ they left the
existing sign that was there.
Oh, okay.
They didn't take the old sign down. It's not hard to see it if you do the speed limit.
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All right. This is a project, the Energy Retrofit. ‸ Our staff actually put together a grant application. ‸ We found out literally days before it was due. We had some projects,
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one at Harry T. Moore Center that we already had pricing on. We were able to get the grant in, get the grant, and get the, all the fixtures installed.
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So that was a big accomplishment by our staff that got that done, saved the city 50 cents on the dollar by going through the Energy Retrofit.
Awesome.
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Our new little pedestals through the park. I didn't think these would look as good as they do. They're great, and I think all the vendors really, really like them.
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Yeah. Yay!
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Two of them are intermittent, going off and on.
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Last
night, the lights. Oh, the blinking lights?
The
lights that sit on the top. Are they supposed to be blinking? Yeah, of course.
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two of them were blinking off and on.
Those are the special ones.
Oh, okay.
All
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We'll check it out.
All
right. That's pretty funny. The roof. Everyone has seen the new roof instead of the trellis. The old cypress beams were at the end of their life, and this is a huge improvement. We really... It's a
huge improvement.
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Yeah, and then all the lighting underneath are all LED, and I'm telling you, it looks really nice at night.
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light rain, people go under it, and then it stops, and you're back out at the event. Right. It doesn't stop an event.
Right. We're very, you know... ‸ Plus, ‸ this was built in a very short window. It had to be done in the summer, when the park wasn't
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out ‸ for parties and weddings and so forth, So we had a fairly small window working with leisure services.
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This project started from nothing, and now we have identified preferred sites, which we have under contract. if that's the location, the final locations that are decided. We have those ready to go, including the Brunson property. The preliminary conceptual design is complete, so we'll be moving forward to getting design and construction going later this year.
Great.
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Finally, Jolie Smith Center. Our staff worked with
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and came up with some conceptual drawings that fit our budget, And this is the future of Diamond Square. Great job. Thank you. Good job.
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Gave me a heart attack. Any questions about some of these projects?
That's a lot of work.
Absolutely.
You did a great job.
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I commend you.
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I pushed and prodded. They did the work, and ‸ even projects like Peachtree Street. We're using federal funds, huge amounts of paperwork, And it's ‸ my staff that's done the work, and I really commend them and appreciate ‸ their support and their efforts this year.
They've done a great job. You've done a great job. I was worried many nights of...
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Thank you all very much.
It was
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fine. Hey, many times I talked to John, and I'm worried about overworking you because I know a lot of the stuff
falls
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things are going to gel the city ‸ more together.
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Our big focus next year is going to be the fire stations. Yeah, fire stations, of course.
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Yes. We'll be doing that with in-house staff and ‸ the support of an architect and an engineer, but it's going to be a large
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and ‸ that's going to be our focus. All right.
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Thank you. Good job. Thank you.
Okay.
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Larry?
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just wanted to make sure you knew I had the bullhorn.
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1052 Mitchell Street, Cocoa 32922 District 2. What? I actually live in District 2.
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the street belongs to me. You get the other side.
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subdivision in the city of Cocoa, also known as Broadmoor Acres, which we're about to restore to its original grandeur.
Okay.
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First, real quick update.
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8. I've made arrangements for outdoor lighting because it actually starts to get dark a little earlier. So we'll have lighting. We'll have a bounce house for the kids to have something to actually keep them active. Chairs have been rented. The only thing I didn't do is get a porta potty, and that's because it didn't
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a couple hours or else run around the corner.
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in trying to get this together in Broadmoor, Acres. I've discovered some other issues that I think need to be addressed. Mr. Belden's department, code enforcement, is trying to do their job in Broadmoor, Acres. It gets kind of difficult, and I'm trying to understand why we're expending resources ‸ to enforce a code, but we don't have the enforcement mechanism behind it. And what I mean by that is currently on Belafonte, where 99% of the properties are actually rentals that the city's not getting, you know, their rental certificate fees on. We've got four houses that have been coded and condemned as unsafe and unsanitary by code enforcement.
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them because once code enforcement posts the notice, and this is something that Russ has had an issue with in the last two weeks, He was out again this morning
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at the owner's request. Just as soon as they post these condemnation orders, he hasn't gotten to the corner
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before somebody's actually come out and pulled it down.
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this afternoon. The property has been a fire hazard for everyone in the neighborhood because they've been taking
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and jumping them directly to the house.
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last Friday and they cut and capped the lines ‸ again. It's kind of hard to have code enforcement out there because technically they have to see it to know who's doing it. 1054 has been coded and has not had water and sewer service from the city, but they cut the locks off the meter. I reported it to the city water department
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they sent ‸ someone out. And what they did is they put another lock on the meter.
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to start holding people accountable. There comes a point to where we have to be able to enforce these things. ‸ I don't know what we're going to do, but one suggestion that Chief Cantaloupe and I,
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has to have some form of sharing of this information on properties that have been condemned or coded.
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come up ‸ in trying to organize this thing. I am tracking down property owners on these properties. One owner on 1054 and 1051 the city's been dealing with, she expects the city to actually evict her tenants. That's not going to happen. It's not your job. It's not your position and you don't have the legal authority to do it. And ‸ that's been explained to her. But the fact that these houses are unsafe, the fact that these houses are being used for illegal purposes,
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So I'm basically asking what are we going to do about that? There's got to be something. And my time's up.
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Oh, okay. Well, in that case, I hope to see everybody out there on Thursday.
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So show up.
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Well,
actually, he's got to be there because we extended this for him. And his district is just on the other
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you know we have to Japan conference that night.
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Yeah. And actually, some of the residents that are planning on attending even suggested it be slightly longer because they didn't think that an hour would really be enough time to accomplish much.
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get there.
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thanks. Appreciate it. All right, Platt Loftus.
Good
evening.
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It's great to be back. It's been more than a few years. Great to be back on 65 Stone Street. Briefly here, I'm just here really for one purpose only, and that's just to merely make a suggestion, and I do this respectfully and gently but I'm here to address your solid waste contract. Every good garbage man and every good garbage woman understands when a contract is near its
term
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They understand the dynamics behind what's going on, and I'm just here to really just to give another point of view. if I may.
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when
I was here two
weeks ago, I heard at the very end the discussions about yard waste, recycling, can the yard waste get picked up, what can we do to fix it, and renewals. And what I'm here to just merely suggest is to please, if you would consider, put this contract out on the street, put it out to bid. Consider these three points. The first point I'd like to make is this contract, as far as we know, has never been out,
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Bob Hires and I were talking about the history of this contract when he ran the state of Florida. He said,
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when I was running the state of Florida,
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and
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rolled into ‸ the new hauler. So as far as we know, we don't think this contract has ever gone out to bid. Now, a lot has changed
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Equipment, policies, ‸ procedures, value-added services are all different now.
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Point number two, to create an RFP is a pain. It's a lot of work. It's a lot of man hours. Mr. City Manager, I understand that. Two things that have taken place in Brevard County, Melbourne Beach and I believe Cape Canaveral, they hired a consultant to generate an RFP. Now, the consultant got with the city manager, and the city manager told the consultant the points of things that the cities would like to do. and the consultant
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Staff hours, ‸ the man hours and woman hours gets taken away. The city manager has enough with he and his staff. We understand that. The good point about a consultant is the winning, if it does go out to bid, the winning company can pay for the consulting fees. It's a win-win.
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have the consultant do the work and let the winning hauler pay for the tab of the consulting fee. It's done all over the state of
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The last point I'd like to make is ‸ your current contract.
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solid waste contract.
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in this city ‸ already bought and paid for. The plastic that's been set out, I believe it was two, three years ago, those carts have already been amortized. They are paid for. Moving forward, your current
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doing nothing but making money as they should. That's their prerogative.
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very much on everyone's mind now, and when the hauler makes the suggestion of, hey, it's going to cost a certain amount of money, which all carts do, maybe it's time to ‸ throw ‸ the blanket out there and to find out what all services cost, yard waste, single stream, recyclables, GPS, CNG, I can go on and on. The services are there. The ‸ things are there that can really bring
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of what's taking place now in regards to solid waste. So I'll leave it at that. I just make this a friendly suggestion. Any questions? Any issues?
Hey, John,
what
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is the contract at?
There's a single-year renewal, and, Ed, correct me if I'm wrong,
I
think then there's another five-year renewal.
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September, okay. Okay.
Next September? Okay.
In closing, just ‸ one comment.
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years.
They
put their toe in the water. They came out smelling like a rose. And they didn't go with me. They stayed with their incumbent hauler. But they saved millions of dollars for the residents. Just food for thought. Thank you for your time. This is ‸ a great city, And ‸ whether
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goes out to bed or not, we look forward to a friendly relationship. with everyone. Appreciate your time.
Thank you.
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And John, if it's next September, when do we, well, of course,
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and decide on it, but do we just, many months ahead of time, right?
We would,
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not the last council, but the previous council meeting, And we will be bringing back those options to include, you know, where we are with the current, because as you know, every year, public works evaluates contractor, performance, and provides that to an agenda item to a council. Right. So we'll bring back those options, And there's plenty of time to either internally develop an RFP, look at what ‸ others have done, or even evaluate the process
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where they retained a consultant for, you know, if it was council's desire to retain a consultant that would develop the RFP and then rank and evaluate the RFP,
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from the...
competition is
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always good, and I don't know what you guys are
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we need
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‸ We said this clearly already, I think. And
they have ‸ come back, you know, and we'll include that in the agenda item, you know, as you know, waste management was at the District 1 meeting, and I did have an opportunity to talk to them, and they ‸ also want to meet and talk about, you know, growth of the city and where
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‸ looking at their routes and how they can do things a little bit more, you know, since we've grown a little bit and provide...
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Sure.
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that they, you know, when the contract was first put in place,
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So we... I would say, but at the next meeting, we'll give you an update of when we think we can bring that back to give you some, you know, because I know the others are concerned as well. ‸ So we'll give you an update at the next meeting.
Mr. Mayor, my greatest concern, and since we're talking about our close work and boundaries in reference of District 1 and District 2, I know in my area, a lot of concern has been green waste. Pick up. Absolutely. And that's my greatest concern. At the district meeting, they did state that they were tagging green waste. Notice, and I'm a firm
believe
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if you mess up, I will give you the opportunity. to rectify your mistake. But my greatest concern right now is making sure that all green
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not to brown waste.
You
get what I'm saying? We hit that problem. Right. So that's my concern, And
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So let's see, but I'm a firm believer now. Competition brings up the best in us all.
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Well, I've had that problem also where I live, And they'll take the ‸ can and empty it, but if there's a problem
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it stays there.
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that's something we have to address.
Okay. Okay. Good. We're going to be talking a lot more about it,
in that
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Yeah, again, I'll
meet with the ‸ next meeting, and we'll try to come up with a schedule to bring back to council in terms of, again, you're right,
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but we're aware that it
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behalf of the
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Association, of which I am a board member. Believe it or not, I'm going to talk about waterfront issues a little bit. I do have some exciting new good news to share with everybody. As we all know,
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citizens, and this includes for recreation and commerce as well. Now, we've talked about this enough. The Cocoa Waterfront Master Plan of 2008 is slowly being implemented. It looks like We're starting to get a little momentum there. Progress is very slow, but at least it's happening. And this will benefit the citizens and business, but when you think about it, there are bigger fish to catch out in the ICW that we haven't talked about. So what I'm addressing specifically is there's a decades-long migration that is well-established, a seasonal migration of snowbirds that bring their boats down for the winter and go back in the spring. It happens twice a year on a daily basis. ‸ A lot of these vessels sell for, in the seven-figure price range. The people that are on them are not just captains of boats, they're captains of industry and commerce. This is a group that we would like to attract not only to spend money in Cocoa Village, but perhaps to come here and show them a good enough time and wow them that they go, you know,
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‸ Could be a factory,
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but I know of cases of people that have gone somewhere on their boat and thought it was a wonderful enough place that they moved a meaningful business into the community. So that we haven't talked about and I'd like to throw that out there as a meaningful target. Right now,
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is on the point of a spear and there are many spears that need to happen to make this occur. We would like to build an ambassadorship among this elite, influential, well-moneyed group. And to that end, several things have happened. As we strive to improve our waterfront and our perception thereof, I contacted Waterway Guide. This is what Waterway Guide looks like. This is the Southern Edition. It's almost 600 pages long. They have six of these from around the country. Most of them feed down to get people into Florida.
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I tried to get that number, but it's tens of thousands. These things sell
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and just about every cruising boat out there has got one. So anyway,
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and thought it was really bad and told them so, and they said, what have you got? And I said, I'll get it to you. So they had a, about a three and a half page column
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updates where necessary, new information where it seemed applicable. I sent them about 1700 words and
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page columns. So we got a huge growth of representation
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So that's all good news. Also,
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It's called the Sail to the Sun Rally.
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and said, how about making us a port of call?
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great idea, you're on. So we are officially one of the ports call for the Sail to the Sun Rally scheduled tentatively for the 5th and 6th of December.
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Great. Very
good, sir. Wonderful time to do it because the Arts and Crafts Holiday Bazaar occurs that weekend so we can really wow some people.
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but there'll be a national presence. Wally Moran, who is leading it, has thousands and thousands of people that read his blog daily. So we'll definitely be getting some press out of this. And HCVA would like to welcome city staff to discuss any involvement that the city might like to have in partaking in this as a promotion and to, as a step for gaining recognition and putting our best foot forward for the goals so stated earlier.
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on things, if we could do a little bit of a concerted effort to get as cleaned up as we can get before the arrival of this fleet, it would be very nice to have a nice looking harbor for them. Most of them will be anchoring out. A few will be at Cocoa Village Marina if they can get in, and we think they can. And just so you know,
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They are rated as one of the most popular marinas in the entire state of Florida and along the whole East Coast.
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So that's it for me. I have some handouts I'll pass out. One is the, what is the
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I've got eight copies of this. And this is kind of, it's not a great copy because you can imagine this ring binder is hard to make copies off a home computer, but it's what the Cocoa write-up looks like. So I will hand those
over for distribution. Like I say, there's
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Job well done. He's just getting started. I
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We're
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You know, that's a true statement.
That's true. Long distance. But the thing is, Brad ‸ is very capable and you watch what he's going to do.
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Brad, thanks a lot. I tell you, you're doing a great job. And my main reason I asked him to do these things is because
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every day. And ‸ Brad's done this most of his life. ‸ And he's owned a lot of big boats and He loves marinas
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So, and I appreciate that.
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It's not 100% accurate. I'm not sure if it went through there or anything.
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I
can't imagine anything slipped past us, but it could have. But you'll possibly come across a couple of things and say, ‸ in the 2017 version,
I'm
not correct. And they're sure ‸ they will.
Just remember to tell the guys when they're piloting down here, you can look at the GPS, but you can also look to the west and see that big water tower. You know what I mean?
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water tower. We'll talk about that later. All right, Brad, thanks. And Virgil Prude? ‸ Virgie?
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How you doing? ‸ Name and address again.
536 South Y Avenue.
‸ How you doing?
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I'm fine. My concern is that at 536, thank you all for the stop sign. But if something don't be done about that traffic
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Something don't be done about that traffic
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they're doing 100 miles an hour, sometimes two cars side by side. and I always say,
where
is the police? And at the same time, the police come by, but the police can't be everywhere, you know.
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Yes. So it just, ‸ some of them even don't stop at the stop sign.
Right.
If I get across that road and I see a car coming,
I'm
staying on the side until that car passed, although they're supposed to stop at the stop sign. Somebody could get killed there.
Yeah.
And I just want you to know, if my family get hurt there,
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You know, ‸ it's just, it's just really dangerous. I mean, and it, ‸ the road ‸ is stuck
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it's that the people.
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You know Henry Flowers? Henry ‸ lives right there.
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from the park.
Yeah, because he was telling me the same thing.
Oh, yeah. Is
it possible we could, I don't know, maybe Chief, put some speed sign there and try to figure out what's actually happening?
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John,
is that okay? Yeah, we'll follow up. Yes, sir.
Yeah, because they got speed sign on there. What they'll do
is they'll measure it. They'll go a week And they'll be able to tell how many, you know, how many bars, how fast.
And another problem I got. I live two places because I'm in care
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There's a prostitute house across the street. So somebody need to do something about that. I talked to the young lady. I
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her to come go to church with me and I talked to her. And I said, oh, you live here now. And she said that the owner told her she can stay there. But there's prostitution in that house. Day in and day out.
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‸ What address?
That's on A Lane.
Yeah, I know that, but I mean, what address?
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address. All I know is when you turn off a 520
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it's the third house on the left-hand side. No furniture or nothing in the house. Nothing about clothes and garbage. And right now, the garbage is all up on the side.
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traffic,
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So ‸ that's...
Sam's. We can pass
that on. We'll pass that on to the sheriff.
Okay, I just want to say because something needs to be done because we
don't
need that in the neighborhood. You know?
Absolutely.
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We'll have to pass it
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Thank you.
Thank you for coming.
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Mr. Mayor, members of council staff.
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Chapman, Historic Cocoa Village Association, 12 Stone Street Suite 5. And thank you for the opportunity to speak with you or before you this evening. We had an event or two a week and a half or so ago. We had the Fall Art and Craft Festival and Chili Cook-Off on Saturday night. And let me start with Chili Cook-Off, if I may. First of all, I want to thank the city staff for all the help they gave us putting it on. And I want to congratulate Deputy Mayor Warner and
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whose team won People's Choice by, I think, something like 40 votes. He really...
They had done. Did you not see what Officer Bradshaw was doing?
Chief Prince isn't very happy about that.
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we had about 400 wristband holders.
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And considering that we did it at the same time we're doing
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we ran it from 4 to 7. And it was a good time. The music was terrific.
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did a great job. A lot of fun was had by all. So thank you very much for the city's participation and we really enjoyed it. We also had the Fall Art and Craft Festival the same weekend as you may have noticed. We had over 200 exhibitors and we
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the biggest, certainly it's the biggest crowd that we've had during my tenure with HCVA and I hope you had a chance to attend and I think it went very well.
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in a guest survey which I'll tell you about in just a moment and we had the Bionic Tigers from
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‸ We entertained a total of about 16 non-profits in addition to scores, literally scores of Art and Craft exhibitors. I think the quality was good and if you were by I hope you enjoyed it. I did want to share with you the some notes from the guest survey just a couple of real quick ones. The ROTC did a great job for us and they surveyed over a thousand people which is pretty impressive over the course of two days. And one of the things that we learned was kind of important is that
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that event. We estimated around 2,600 total visitors that were new to the area and of those 1,380 were on
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overnight here. So it's a significant impact to the heads and beds economy
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Coming up Art and Craft Holiday Bazaar. This is the one where we allow the merchants to actually sell some of their wares in the streets along with our Artisan Crafters. It's the only time of the year we do allow by sell in the the show. We are expecting the same number of Artisan Crafters. Our reservations are running exactly where they were for fall so we hope it will be a big event again with booths running right down Harrison Street as they did and that was an arrangement that seemed to work very, very well. We're also going to be participating in
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Sharing Center and we hope that we'll be able to make a meaningful contribution both through the Art and Craft event and through the participation of some of our merchants right
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And with that I look forward to telling you more about Art and Craft after it happens and thank you. It's ‸ great to be part of a great city. Thank you very much.
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and those guys were best dressed and they should have got best dessert if we had that award too. It's great.
Next
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Expand.
Next year will expand. And
they should have got like the best drink too because their peach mango tea was awesome so. Right.
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was good. They shared that
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Good stuff. Yes. Good stuff.
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We'll do it again.
Thank you.
We went through nine gallons of chili.
Yeah.
And that's pretty much it.
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it takes so.
Yeah.
Thank you very much for your participation. Really appreciate it.
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man. I have to ask you this. Was it A Lane or was it A Street?
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A Lane. So it's in the city limits. Right?
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in the city limits.
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I am
messed up tonight.
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A Street,
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That's right.
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so serious, we're going to be on it. Make sure we get the sheriff. ‸ I'll even call him. Okay. Thank you. Jeremy Phelps.
‸ Got my notes on my phone.
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So, see how this goes. Thanks for having me. Jeremy Phelps.
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We're busy again. Always, always busy, which is a good thing to be over at the Playhouse. Drama Mama says to say hello.
wishes
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she could be here, but she's in rehearsal with our Chitty Chitty Bang Bang cast this evening. And they're getting ready. We open on November 20th. I'm skipping ahead of myself. This Friday night we have our Stars of Tomorrow Youth Program kickoff party. This is for our older stars and they ‸ have a haunted sleepover. And this is the kickoff that we have brought back because we had done away with it for a couple of years. And all of the stars were saying that they missed it. And so
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for the ‸ younger kids. So those who didn't want to be quite so scared, ‸ that was a good time.
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very first inaugural concert of the Space Coast Singers Chorus Group. And we are really excited for them to put their first concert together for us and see what they have. As I mentioned, November 20th through December 6th, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. And the car comes to life on stage. So that's going to be a great time coming up in November. On December 12th, my birthday, we have Hot Pink. This is going to be a great group. They perform here at some of the local restaurants, bars and all that. And they are doing a Night of Motown for us on stage. It's going to be kind of more of a concert thing.
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great time. And it's already selling out, or not selling out yet, but selling quickly. So if you want to come to the Night of Motown, go on linecokervillageplayhouse.com to get the tape.
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Then back to the stars of tomorrow on December 15th. They have their holiday pageant. And so we'll have our youth doing a holiday pageant, kicking off the holiday season. And then we ‸ kind of wrap up our holiday season with the Galmont Ballet, the American Nutcracker, December 18th through the 20th. That's in collaboration with Galmont Ballet. We've done that.
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10 years now. So we're really excited to have them back every year to present that. And that's it.
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And we would be happy to receive them there on
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Jeremy, I got a question for you.
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sugar shack? Oh, yes.
Is
that unbelievable or what?
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In fact,
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It comes through
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air conditioning vents.
And
so we've been, myself, I haven't partaken yet of the donuts, but I've heard that they are absolutely wonderful and the coffee's great.
Yeah, they're great.
And it looks fantastic. I think that, you know what, that's kind of been an eyesore back in that corner,
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So it's really nice to see that that get cleaned up and have some activity. So we're really happy to have some new neighbors.
Good. It's definitely sweet.
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sir.
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I'm sorry, man. You know what I'm going
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Power rings. Power rings. That's
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Yeah,
totally. We'll be all right. Okay. Consent?
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Second.
Okay. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed?
Okay.
Hmm. Very good. Public
hearings.
And
it's... ‸ Steve? Please just read in the ordinance. Okay. Yeah.
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reading of an annexation ordinance involving three parcels. An ordinance of the City Council of
the
City of Cocoa, Brevard County, Florida annexing three
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located on the southeast corner of Clear Lake Road and Loring Street.
The
street within Brevard County, Florida more particularly depicted and legally described in Exhibit A is attached here to providing for the
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real property into the city boundaries, providing for the filing of the revised Cocoa Charter with the Department of State, providing for the repeal
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consistent ordinances and resolution severability and an effective date. Okay.
Okay. We're gonna...
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back second reading of the next meeting.
Okay. I'm
gonna
open this up to the public.
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Okay.
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All in favor? Aye. Any opposed?
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The next item is an ordinance for second and final reading.
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I have a paper agenda. And...
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Old school.
Yay!
You want my copy?
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an ordinance of the City
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2 Administration, Article 7, Police officers Retirement Plan of the Code of
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2-191 definitions, amending Section 2-195 contributions, creating a new
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repealing all ordinances in conflict herewith, and providing an effective date. Second and final reading and public hearing item. Mayor. ‸ Thank
you. Tammy, ‸ anything anything to it? No? ‸ Okay. I'm going to open this up to the public. ‸ anybody like to speak on the uh police
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Close it to the public, bring it back to council.
Motion to approve.
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got it first. Yes. That's fine.
Okay.
All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay.
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an ordinance of the City of
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amending Section 2-272 conditions and eligibility for membership, amending Section
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Section 2-332 share plan, providing for repeal of inconsistent ordinances, providing for severability, and providing an effective date. Again, second and final reading, also public hearing item there. Thank
you.
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going to open this up to the public. Would
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oh Okay, nap time. Powerpoint.
This is the council meeting. You can't nap while she's talking.
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um
The recommended motion is to approve staff recommendation to implement the unoccupied property policy effective january 1st 2016. Hopefully the fourth time's the charm. Base rates. Sometimes referred to as readiness to serve rates is a fixed rate designed to cover fixed costs, overhead costs that the city must maintain to meet the potential demands that the customer represents to the system. Base fees include portions of the fixed costs. ‸ example, debt service, infrastructure repair, maintenance, capacity ‸ of the system, which must be incurred whether or not the customer uses any water or discharges any wastewater into the system. The city must maintain over 1300 miles of buried pipe,
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and a water treatment plant producing an average ‸ of 23 MGD with a capacity of 48
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hours a day,
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days a week,
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certified employees to operate and maintain its plan and system, and the number of employees and pay of those employees and cost of maintaining the infrastructure the
infrastructure
does not decrease when the accounts are inactive. Our current policy basically has an inadequacy. For unoccupied properties that are vacant for over 30 days over the billing period, seasonal seasonal customers must pay the base rate for all services billed to the city, whereas unoccupied property owners, landlords who own vacant property, do not have to pay any of the base rates. ‸ council basically has three options. They can implement the unoccupied property policy. And basically what that is, is as of January 1st, all unoccupied property owners would be charged the base rate for all services
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include vacant property. The second option is implementing the vacant status policy. Basically that is when you are vacant, when a property is vacant for over a billing
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customer would not be billed for the base rates. And then the third is
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that requires seasonal customers to pay the base rate for all services
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the
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of vacant property do not. And I personally have a have a problem with that because of the inequity. The pros and cons of all of these. The
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And basically, if we implemented this, there's a possibility that we could lower the base rate. The vac the vacation status policy, on the other hand, there all although it would have um equity to the all on unoccupied property, it may result in a higher base rate after we do an analysis of of the of the rates. And then we could keep status quo where unoccupied seasonal customers pay base rate, it
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We've talked to
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our in the county in our water district. And we have some other smaller utilities. And
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They oppose the vacation policy because it is cost a loss of revenue for them. But they would support the status quo. Now, how many how many customers does this affect? If we implemented the um unoccupied property, there's about 2600 customers that we would be billing that are we do not bill now.
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we implemented the vacation status policy, we would it would involve stop billing for customers
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which is about 6600 customers. And we have a total of about 83 000 connections at this point. Now, let's talk about the financial impact. If we implemented the unoccupied property policy and did nothing else, there would be increase in revenue for
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year. So there there may be a possibility that by implementing this, we could decrease the base rate. On the other hand, if we implemented the vacation status policy and nothing is done, it's a decrease in revenue. Again, or if you could do a rate study, and it may result in a base rate increase to compensate to compensate the difference. By doing status quo, there's no financial impact.
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The cities of Melbourne,
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utilizes
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method. These are the local cities. There are cities that implement the vacation status policy. ‸ The city of Vero, Tampa,
st.
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st.
Augustine, and
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that we found that did that. And basically, they suspend billing to customers who who do not have consumption within 30 days. We have found no other utility or community that that does what we do.
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that
mean that there's nobody as smart as us or nobody as weird as us?
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Nobody does. ‸ This is your last council meeting,
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Nobody does.
‸ We can't take away your retirement. Go ahead. Tell us what you really think.
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I know this is, uh unfortunately, there's there's no one here right now. But uh staff's experience, and I believe there's been probably two members on council the last time this issue was addressed. And uh while no one's here now, come January, once the bills go out, in February, people will be here. uh ‸ And I can tell you, in speaking with staff and speaking with Laura, uh
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to the system.
there
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some programming changes to set up the building So, at the end of the day, what we're asking is so we don't frustrate the customer, don't frustrate you, and don't frustrate staff. And increased workload is whatever way you want to go, we just need to know that that's the way that you want to go. Because to go one direction and then have that that that
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you again, I think
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we're talking about the 2600 customers, are will come into, not all 2600 but a number of them will come in. And the issue for staff, as you know, um and I know some people have said, well, if I'm not, if I have vacant property, you know, it's unoccupied, I'm not paying anything. So, you know, if the city's not, you know, if you're not providing me any service, so why should I pay for it? Well, I guess I would say that private property owner whose property is vacant and unoccupied, they still have the responsibility responsibility, personally, for their own investment, and as well as to ensure adherence to code, that they maintain that property. So
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you know, that they participate in the maintenance and the upkeep of the system. uh and
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but he indicated that the base fee, or sometimes referred to as the rating services is
a
fixed monthly fee that is designed to cover fixed costs associated with the state of readiness that the city must maintain to meet the potential demands that a customer represents to the system. This is no different than what we're doing with the fire assessment, in terms of, you know, you have already they are there, and they're ready to serve if the ‸ time, if the situation dictates. uh And then, he and Mr. Burton, ‸ again goes through, and
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throughout the year, whether the account is active or not. Because at the end of the day, if if you bifurcate and have two different policies, or you have two different treat people differently, because we think you should either do one or the other. You should either not charge, you know, the vacation, you know, the seasonal people, or you should charge the unoccupied. uh Because there is an inequity there, but the other inequity, if you don't charge either, is that all those, as Mr. Burton points out, all those fixed costs included in the current base fee continue to be incurred by not just the city, but the rate payers. Because they're going to have to pick up those fixed costs, they're bearing those fixed costs, and it's going to be spread out.
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if we...
understand
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if we went that way, likely
we do
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be a rate increase. Well,
no, we're not with the status quo, but the the issue... and i know You do nothing. yeah
There's no... assistance
As
it
currently stands, there's no financial impact if you do the status quo. But what happens is, and
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because she was a ‸ perfect example, is that
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her mother's... ‸ When her mother's not here, she continues to pay. And I think what what she expressed is she's just asking for fairness. It needs to be one way or the other, you know, and it just... I mean, she understood the necessity of maintaining the system, but it just... You got
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that aren't. And I guess the other issue, and I'll end here, is uh that
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in terms of the capacity ‸ that readiness to serve because when somebody opens an account and they have a meter, actually when they're platted, we're committed now to providing water service to that lot
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that property. So while right now we have sufficient capacity you know within you know ‸ our system, what happens 10 years down the road as growth is continuing to happen and you know the port's expanding, and now if you go to the position where you're going to not make them pay, but yet we have to provide that service,
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that could inhibit you 10, 15 years down the road from being able to say, ‸ I'm sorry, you can't build that subdivision. uh You can't build that commercial center or that industrial area because you know we're at a point, I mean the Central Florida Water Initiative says that what the area is going to need, was a
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And we have about 800 million gallons that are that they're saying so by 2030 I think it was like a deficit of 300 million gallons a day. So I mean so
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And while our system is currently in a position to provide service, you know, you could foreseeably see with the all the development NASA and all the things that are happening,
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a near term, not a medium term, it's a long term issue. And maybe the change happens back then, but ‸ just we're just saying whatever you do, let's just we're just asking you ‸ stick with it because it's going to cause more headaches for you if we have to reverse it because customers are not going to be happy. I mean, you have two people, one's not going to be happy one way or the other.
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redone in their base rate.
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up to maybe
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increase in the base rate, potentially. That
was a ‸ Rough estimate
without the
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months for the upcoming year. Okay.
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who are going away for vacation, maybe leaving for the summer and continuing to ‸ pay their water bill for
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anything at all.
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nobody's paying, then it's not fair to the rest of us
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are not being billed because their property is vacant um are no different in my mind than the people who are on vacation. So if we're going to charge one, we need to charge the other. And if we don't charge any of them, then we need to be able to explain to the rest of our customers why we're providing a service to
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not charging them for. So um I think we treat everybody the same and approved staff's recommendation to implement the unoccupied property policy effective January
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2016.
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something here. When we're talking about
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if they have a meter at their house, they will be billed. ‸ What is the determining factor to
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them?
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be incorporated in that bill too as well?
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sir. ‸ Basically, for the city of Cocoa, and I really don't know if this was with the rate increase or not, because I've done this a long time ago, but in
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already rate increase,
it'd
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be a little more. It would include water, garbage, recycling, franchise fees, stormwater, and sewer.
it'd
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be the base rates for those. Yes, sir. And that's what our seasonal customers pay.
So they will pay the minimum rate?
Yes, sir.
‸ Okay, here's another thing, and I understand that. I'm just, as the city manager alluded to, I
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see the number of people coming that own property. Let's ‸ cut to the chase.
this thing
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about one of the large property owners here
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a building.
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Right. Absolutely. And I know they're coming, but I'm just trying to say, yes, we need something that is fair and equitable, but how do we bring in those other 2,600 customers? That's the question.
Okay.
Thank you. You answered my question. Mr. Furbish?
Yeah.
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and you mentioned that if you don't under the bond covenants, you have to treat everybody the same. So you really can't make two classes or three classes or whatever, and I think if that's the truth, we have the answer already.
I mean,
basically, because we're not treating everybody the same right now already. We're not living up to the bond covenants. Correct? Mike?
It's the resolution and the bond covenants. Would you agree with that, Anthony?
I
mean, you know, in Mike's analysis, he refers to the fact that, you know, basically we can't
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for the system, and the bondholders certainly are believing that they should be getting the proceeds from the ‸ lending the money to the system.
And
also, though, ‸ just for okay. Sorry.
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but I recall they allow the city to establish classes of customers. And within the class, everybody needs to be treated fairly and without discrimination, and there's a provision in the bond covenants about the city not providing free water service. The purpose of the bond covenants is, of course, to secure the revenue necessary to pay the debt. So when you look at establishing classes of customers, you've got to ask generally ask yourself and this is just, you know, general comment
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non-discriminatory fashion? And I think what the staff is pointing out in this report and that Burton's pointing out in the report, you
know,
you have these two customers, these unoccupied properties and seasonal customers. Is there really any distinction? And I think the councilwoman ‸ maybe kind of hinted to or alluded to that. And you need to ask yourself if they're similarly situated enough, should they be ‸ treated the same? In this case, at least paying a base rate, ‸ a readiness to serve fee, which is common in the utility practice. And as you know, readiness to serve is a charge that the city imposes with a fire assessment. And, you know, is the utility any different than that for all the reasons John expressed and having that service ready, willing, and able to be provided?
Okay.
I'm
not done yet. Oh, go ahead.
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Unoccupied.
Does that mean there's a house standing there, but nobody's living there? Does that mean vacant property?
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But there's a meter, though.
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And and basically, no, because we have to have the capacity for that.
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property yeah I mean
like right beside you you're in right that's for example that piece of property right there, does that get built for water? Yes, that would.
is there a meter there
it used to be yes I got a monitor yeah yeah the
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been ‸ plans approved for me to know
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meter, no, we wouldn't bill.
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That's really ‸ what Tyler
asked
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okay so then if we if we if we change that and they get
billed
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they'll come back and say, take the meter out then.
That's me. That was my attitude. But you still
‸ then what's our answer gonna ‸ be?
it Well, okay, let me ask you this is is there a ‸ building on that and that kind of property
was what I asked you
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there's a building on there yes I would think we would still have to have to have to charge and My problem is, are
we creating a bucket of worms here? And and it feels like we are
yes there is there is
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and then there's property that may, like, let's take, you know, look off a fist there's some there's some streets and even in Diamond Square where there were there's vacant property, but yet there is a service that was once provided to the property and it's just vacant. And then there's vacant, undeveloped property which has never been disturbed, never been developed. That property, there's never been an impact to the system because they haven't paid their, you know, their connection charges there's no there's there's no what I would say legal requirement for us to, if they come to us, we would look and make sure we have enough capacity in the system and say, oh yes, we can provide you service. These other properties in our what I'll call our infill areas like the Diamond Square that the example that you used on
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there's water lines there, there's service there, and there's a there's an obligation that we're gonna ‸ whether they had the meter removed or not that we're going to provide water you know and Jack you can correct me, but there's an obligation that we're going ‸ to provide water to that property when you come to us. That's that readiness to serve. But
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there's no requirement. Okay,
that's that's that's that's pretty clear now. Yeah. undeveloped property. Yes. That's never been developed. But how about the house you just tore down? They
would, stood right now, they would,
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but if you adopt this policy, they would be, because if they rebuild on that property, we have the legal obligation. You would back
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like, five years from now? well Well, what we would do right now if you adopt the policy effective January 1st 16
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that has the meter.
properties
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vacant like it is now why would you ever want to I mean I understand what you're saying but why would you want to run a base rate I mean, against the property that's not, it doesn't have ‸ a building on it? You know what I mean I just think so I guess because there's a legal obligation I understand that, but it but it's gonna ‸ take, they'll have to come back in and probably buy a water meter for
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grand and buy, you know,
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No. the impact
A new impact fee?
No, they won't have to do that.
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demonstrate that they've already paid their impact fee ‸ connection fee in the past, and therefore they would just get a meter and they would be connected to the system, whereas a vacant, undeveloped property is gonna pay
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that?
If you built a house on that property like a
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that but basically
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Whoever owns that vacant
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if it's a bank or a person or whatever, we're gonna ‸ keep charging charging
Because we're legally obligated not just to provide the service, but to maintain the system on their behalf. that
I understand that I know that I'm just saying that part right there just
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happens if they don't pay that I'm sorry, ‸ Yeah, go ahead. What happens if they don't pay that ‸ We
take them to collections and put a lien on it. But please understand, there is another option. stands The vacation status policy. And the one thing about that is that
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have.
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house solves our problem?
Well, what it does, it basically, if it solves everybody, it solves the issue that, yes, if you're in the property, the six months that you're there, you pay a higher rate than you are now and and it would make up the difference that's the point I'm making
so it solves a mathematical problem Brenda well
it may solve
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the mathematical problem, ‸ it doesn't solve our problem ‸ we're legally obligated to provide water to these residences. So,
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So it's either the people who own the property have to pay for it or the people who don't own the property but who are other customers are paying for it. So either everybody pays or 89% of the customers pay and 11% get a free ride. that's that's our options basically
yeah you mean
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structure on it and I'm still getting a cocoa water bill I'd be unhappy
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bill from the city of cocoa even though that her property was unoccupied for 15 years, and she paid that water bill. How
much was it?
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No, ‸ wasn't even that much because she was
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was water, run to the property, she had a meter, even though the meter was removed, she still continued to pay it up until the point where the meter was removed, which was years later. But there was a house on the property. Nobody was living there. She had moved in with her mother, but she's still getting a water bill. She's still paying the water bill so the meter came out.
Like the house is demolished, the one we just did, right? meters gone.
mm-hmm
we're still charging. on the water ‸ right
now
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unoccupied and
we're also charging for the for the customer that spends three months up north.
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and remember everybody's the same you you mentioned that there is a an alternative, you know, the vacation set. Are you saying or suggesting, so ‸ council understands, that that rate be a higher rate...
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have unoccupied to make up the difference so when so like if I'm here nine months out of the year or six seven months out of the year I'm paying a higher rate to make up the ‸ difference
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what I'm saying is is that when you occupy the
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to make up the difference you have to make it somewhere so you would have to go ahead and increase everyone's base rate so the
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when they're here, and and then the people that are here all the time would also have a higher base rate. But that would that would that would basically, the we're going to have to do that because we are ‸ municipality and we have to make up the difference.
question
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no sir and I and I'm kind of torn by this because three fourths of of my staff are in customer service and we do hear the customers complain that I'm up north I can turn my water off but yet I come down here and and and I can't
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they
do complain fpnl I a lot of the private companies don't.
‸ because gas, what about my gas?
And that's also an issue up north. A lot of your water companies up north
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private water companies. They're not municipalities. yeah And they can do that. but even mrs. Blanco's mother when she's down here she
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because it's a city water system. She pays a base rate in her vacation property, even when she's
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and she's paying in Tennessee when she's in Florida so she didn't have a problem paying the base rate she's paying in both places her problem is that she's paying it and other people aren't.
Let me ask one more of a question. Gas companies.
I'm so I'm not sure about it
I already know the answer but I'm just yeah what is the answer
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P&L sir
‸ private company yeah.
so So that's our dilemma. It is a dilemma. It is a dilemma. Do we compensate the 2600 customers and pass the buck on to the the the vacation status and also people like you and I that paid a constant monthly bill? That's the question. How can we be fair and equitable? That is the question. And
the
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easiest way is to implement that motion
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now my only
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um why should I have to pay a fee in reference of green waste that's my hard burn why should I have to pay the the the franchise fee I mean I could see you hit me for my meter for water and sewer but everything else is gone because I'm not you know I'll pull my card out ‸ because I have a vacant building and I and I want my building to be vacant for a reason
well one of the reasons is because we have
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the other we are doing it manually and I know when we first took on the billing charges for Cape Canaveral they only that what they wanted us to bill for their seasonal people the problem is is that we do exceptional billing. we We basically get a report that has everything in there that seems odd. And we don't check every account. And there and it very easily could slip through the cracks where we could lose revenue where somebody could be at at a resident and we don't realize it. And
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it's a nightmare for customer service. And we really, it's either has to be all or none for the services. Do
we still pay waste management for the for picking up at an address even if ‸ No. if it's we pay
we What we do is we create a report to waste management on everybody that we bill. And then
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for that. So
if we're not billing the customer, then waste management is not getting correct money for it. okay
We're seeing that, right yes Brenda yeah
yeah we are seeing that yes okay
let's are we ready to do something oh of course Mr. Mayor
okay let's re-
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implement the unoccupied property policy effective January 1st 2016.
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any opposed no no would
you vote Mr.
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to provide some equity in the treatment, do this council, are they willing to consider where you have like the vacation status policy where it's suspended billing? Some communities, if you look at the common practice, some communities such as those suspend billing during times when ‸ account is inactive for more than a 30-day cycle to make it universal so that so there's equal treatment I
don't know that that gets equal either well
it's not equal to those of us who are still paying our bill
right yeah I'd like to make a motion Mr. Mayor that we just keep status quo.
and continue to treat people unequally?
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It's been working for years and we're the only one doing it so
I'll second for discussion
okay
‸ I think anybody ‸ should be treated the same here's
my concern ‸ and I thank you for your quality time ma'am and I know you're pulling ‸ the report and you're out of here and I know I'm just being honest
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tweak this a little bit more so that we can make sure that it's
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but I just find it difficult for other fees to be assessed to it that's my heartburn I don't mind paying my share of saying um if I got I have a meter and
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yes ma'am I should it's the other attachments that's what I'm saying
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trash
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the franchise fees yeah
stormwater
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I can't
yeah Stormwater is no brainer We got to pay stormwater. It doesn't matter. That is applicable to everyone. Sewer? uh even though there's nothing going inside the building no uh yes correct correct so basically the garbage is the right that's my heartburn kicking point
is there a way I mean
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you know that would exclude um solid
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but is there a way to do a programming where you could stab an alternate establish an alternate building code that would provide for the base rates for the services where we're providing a readiness to serve, but not for the
store
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the solid waste
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the franchise fee? We
can inactivate that for Cocoa residents, but all of the other cities still want those services
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So if you decide to do the
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inactivate it and leave it up to waste management to say hey there's someone there putting garbage out you need to start billing again because we don't pay waste management unless we bill it anyway so there is a way to do it for cocoa residents but like I
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franchise fees and solid waste service fees and other jurisdictions is governed by the policies of other jurisdictions. Yes. ‸ Correct. So, you know, with respect to Cocoa residents, you're saying you have the ability to do that. It's within, the discretion of this council to address that within the city of
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but it's not within the council's prerogative to address that anyway it would have to like if another jurisdiction requested that based on their rate structure then I would assume since we're billing we have to find a way to deal with that
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is
if
that's what the council wants to do on solid waste services franchise fees as long
as it's going to be
because it's consistent with the solid waste agreement, then it's within the prerogative of this council to do that.
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that's that's what I was asking yeah
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to setting up the system in terms of you know the programming establishing that billing code that excludes the solid waste but yeah I just did one of the
council maybe misinterpret what you said well we can't
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so it's not an issue I
guess I didn't word that right but yes they all want to keep those services and yes they're all separate so you can pick and choose who you want
so
‸ okay
I just I
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like I have a couple of neighbors who go away they still have their lawn service coming and cleaning their lawn and putting out green waste and stuff so I'm assuming that's not going to get picked up if they're not getting
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or are we not including the vacation status in this and just the unoccupied property what was your suggestion mr. Blake we do away with the solid waste for everybody or just the unoccupied property okay that would be that
would be a
problem because we don't know really who is vacation and who's vacant so that would be a problem also just let you
know
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and a second
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I'm sorry okay um what's the motion remain status quo remain status quo call
a question mr. mayor
okay
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differently than everybody else. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
okay
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unless the attorney can correct me, I mean, unless you come up with something much ‸ better before you get into implementing this, I suggest you do it. But it's...
You don't have to implement a thing.
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Well, yes, exactly. You can bring something back that maybe would...
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If a light bulb comes
on, ‸ you know... yeah
‸ Our attorney just told us that we really needed to treat all of our classes of customers that are in the same class equally, and we just voted to do something that our attorney told us was a stupid thing to do. that
I think what I'm hearing, too, that the council is open to, you know, discussing other options. Thank you. That's ‸ probably not the appropriate form to kind of... Thank you. ...dig into the particular...
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I can't look in the mirror and say, hey, this isn't... It's not fair. It's deeper than what we were all talking. about Me. I have the same thing with the people that are on vacation
status there's
more. There's more to it. so Yeah. okay So let's... uh I
just... So make a chance to defer retirement. We
will... uh uh Go back to the proverbial drawing board and look at
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and then the other thing I do want to add, because there was an issue that was uh kind of, some you know, somewhat tied to this. If you recall, there was a desire to uh provide uh a uh a benefit to honor, you know, anybody ‸ received the Medal of Honor, you know, like a discount and or maybe
the
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uh combat wounded veterans. And uh that would be a clear violation of treating people differently. And
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resident, but a
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customer or a utility customer. So the only way that we've been advised that that could occur uh is to... If the city council wanted to, you know, budget and appropriate funds out of their... And within their budget for the purpose of paying, you know, a
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a year. That's what it was the... What was what the discount was going to be? Or ‸ at least
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We didn't really discuss that, but I just want to, in that when we had this larger discussion, it was the unoccupied properties, it was the vet you know the combat with the service connected disability, and then also
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could happen, but we'll come back. we'll ‸ talk with staff. we get some it's amazingly brilliant people and see if we can come
up
with something.
By the way,
he
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moved. Did you? He's still in Port St. John.
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let's...
um
Thank you. Thank you.
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all
right
sir. Thank you. uh
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Properties Group, for the property of 222
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Jones is requesting the uh lien be reduced. uh court enforcement board held a public hearing September 17, 2009,
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treatment and boarded up buildings. uh The court enforcement uh board recorded the lien uh effective October 18, 2009.
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2009 until compliance was achieved on December
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above factors, staff had recommended that the lien be
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for an existing uh demolition lien uh an existing high grass and weeds lien, and also attorney's fees that were associated with the uh with the with the demolition for a
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September 17, 2015 meeting
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name
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Space Coast properties,
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really can't uh afford that that amount of money. ‸ I think
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pay off the municipal liens. So I think the question is whether or not there's some time value use to the money, and if so, that I think he could come up with that kind of money. And also, uh if you reduce the lien, I think that he could probably do some development on Rosie Jones, which
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of course, increase your tax base with an improvement on the property because it's vacant land now.
So
um that's what we're proposing
and
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you can do it, great. If you can't, well, I understand.
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of
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are out. I mean, it's not, this
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to go in and abate the nuisance. So these are direct costs and expenses that the tax care taxpayers of
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have borne and staff would be opposed, you know, from our recommendation. We would encourage that you keep the lien at the or
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add, we did have conversations with the property owner, and it was agreed upon. Prior to bringing this forward, the he did agree to pay those hard costs in total. And because of his agreement to do that, we agreed to proceed forward with this with this recommendation. So at the time ‸ the application was filed, he agreed to pay those costs.
Once again,
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There's a bunch of fluff thrown in there, I
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approximately will cover the water
lien.
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I think, is it a water
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or a demolition? Demolition. Yeah.
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actual costs for the demolition
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however, being an attorney,
you've
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got to get paid. Our attorneys also get paid, and that was
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is a hard cost to the citizens because a property owner, you know, by whatever circumstance, didn't keep that property in good repair good repair and necessitated the city to step in to abate the nuisance.
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in response to that is, once again, there's a time value to money. And certainly you're
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well within your right. Take a hard line approach. In which case, so be it. On the other hand, how much is cash in
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This is
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uh and reading through these requests from these property owners for lien reductions. It seems that we're getting a lot of uh
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without knowing there were any liens on it. um And I
realized
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that some of these are, you know, tax certificates. Some of them are, you know, bought at auction or whatever. Is there anything we can do on our part to make sure that these people understand? I mean, we're filing the liens. Why are they not knowing there's a lien on the property before they make a purchase? Well,
to be honest, I think most of them do know. um Really, it's pretty easy to find out the information. And I think most of them do know that.
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just coming before the Code Board and they're pleading ignorance. Okay.
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Mayor? I just want to add that, you know, in response, in all fairness, the city is offering to, you know, suggesting to reduce the lien to
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And the current lien is
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So I think the city is being flexible in terms of working with the property
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um I mean, if you look past through their history, they've been more than willing to reduce uh liens provided that the owner, and they've been really good about working with staff and making sure that that the only thing we're attempting to do is recover hard costs and not punishing new owners for, even though
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we're not punishing new owners. um We're just
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properties. And granted, it's not the fault of the new owner that these properties had these
lanes
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on them, but they do have an opportunity to know they're there before they purchase the property. So on that note, I would like to make a motion that we
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you. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. Okay, uh
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Yes, sir. um This is the request ‸ the appointment of William Terrell as regular member of the Code Enforcement Board.
Motion to approve.
okay All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Thank
you, Mr.
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He's in the
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‸ Bill. Thanks for coming. Thanks for serving. Thank
you for being here. well You know, Bill was on another board there. Yeah. So he's just moving over. So he's been serving for a while. Yeah.
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good. king street um
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a request to approve the street closure. in association with the proposed special event for the king street baptist church fall festival on october 31 2015. uh This would be the final approved street closure for county year 2015, uh 24th Street Closure. This is the
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property line for the request of special fall event. uh ‸ includes uh setup and uh tear down and from 10 to 3.
uh
that's it
um That's it. But
basically
they're just asking for that little section of Ohio Street between the church exactly Exactly. Because
they don't want to, just for safety reasons, basically.
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look, look. I think I heard Steve say
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but I thought I remembered discussing this. Yes. earlier
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that's it. ‸ really meant
down here. is that Okay. Because that's, this is that little portion of Ohio isn't going to hurt
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goes down for a few
hours
while
they have their thing. Yep.
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a recent event. Right. So I don't think anything like that should really count. Right.
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Second. All
in favor? Aye.
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like to
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Thanksgiving week and Thanksgiving is two days. After the meeting. So I think we should cancel
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travel.
Also, I want to add that school, Brevard County schools, the last day, or um get out Wednesday. Or, right? sir Yeah. So a lot of people, families might start traveling that Tuesday night to start their holiday.
Okay. okay
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see when it's Christmas
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it's the same the same issue this year. It's the week of Christmas and
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tell
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council approve uh
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for a 12-month period
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begins uh january 1st goes through december 31st 2016.
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inmate work crew. Obviously
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crew will be supplanted by an offender re-entry program that we're working on uh with the local uh faith-based organization. so Motion
approved Second.
‸ John ‸ I was just... We're going to pilot that program with Celebration Tabernacle. And if it doesn't work, we have the ability to go back. There might be a little bit of a... You know, but it's one of the things, if you recall, that came out of the crime Marriage Crime Awareness and Prevention Summit
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And it's a pilot program to see if they can offer the same service at the same price that we're playing the Florida Department of Corrections. here's
another church, too. I'll talk to you after the meeting. that's Okay. um We have a motion in the second, Mr. ‸ Okay, thank you. All in favor? all right Aye. Any opposed? Okay. ‸ Thank you. Thank you. all right. Anybody in the uh audience from the advisory board or a committee ‸ like to speak? Samantha, we're here? How ‸ you doing? Where's Captain Ed? ‸ all right. So we're gonna see
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I
just wanted to say that many of you know this is uh
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And I'm a little emotional about it. I've worked with her for many, many years. And thank you for being a great mentor.
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i'll stand
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yeah
all right, tears of joy.
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definitely got it tonight.
uh
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I just want to remind everybody to come up to the Broadmoor Acres uh community meeting this Thursday evening from
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he returns, but they had a meeting. uh uh
‸ You want to wait for him?
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something else so i will quick.
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just
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my ‸ report to the Council.
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‸ No report. I just wanted to um
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we're going to miss her at the meetings. Yeah.
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anything?
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I was going to
allow
you all
to talk about the tank.
Yeah.
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the tank?
I think all of us will. What tank? I
will mention uh real quickly, uh we do have Halloween in the Village this weekend, uh Saturday, so we're looking forward to that. the uh we got all
kinds
of activities. uh we got trick-or-treating in
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And we've got uh
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7 ‸ 30 so it should be a fun event this weekend. And
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uh Zombie Run right to be taking place.
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zombies around around this weekend. Okay. and
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to give an update on our... uh
uh
The issue
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Horseshoe Lake. Yeah,
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favorite lake. Yes.
uh Yes, it is a lake. uh Myself, uh Ed, and my code supervisor, Chris
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I believe is his name. ‸ He's a resident there. I think he's been in touch with you. And we wanted to meet with him and talk to him and kind of find out from him exactly what his issues were and from moving from other people as well. and It was actually pretty productive. um What really came out of it was we were able to gain access. we'll find that We have found a location to gain access to the pond because that's really been the problem is getting to the pond. um All the houses around there
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been the challenge. um And he mentioned that between him and the neighbor next door there actually is access where there's no fencing. So we went next door, knocked on the door, talked to the neighbor, asked him, like, this is the situation. Would you have a problem if we he said, no, that'd be fine. No problem. So we found a way to get to the pond. And and so now we're just going to um get a contractor out there, just get it sprayed and get the vegetation uh cleared off of the pond. And uh
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was, but
it will
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certainly be much improved. so um So we are making progress on that. Okay. Very good. ‸ I think he was satisfied that at least he knows what we're working on and, um
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So that's all I have.
Okay. Great. Jack? Okay. okay So we're gonna ‸ go to
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Thank you,
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is my 23 and a half year anniversary working with the City of
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and it also is my last council meeting as an employee. And I want to thank council. You know, being a finance director, it's not always easy, and I don't always say the great the I don't have always always the greatest news for y'all, but y'all have been very supportive of me, and I appreciate it. I appreciate I'm not a resident of
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i love the direction that Coco is going there's a lot of innovation here and I wish you all the best of luck and I thank you very much
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okay you have time to get this uh unoccupied water
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sir
this is the last
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there you oh
wow
hide the keys
man thank you and pound the car we're gonna miss you thank you ‸ you know been a heck of a run
yeah It sure has.
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I will never forget it. But,
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oh yeah Great.
Sir?
Mr. Mayor, the only thing I have is also I just want to thank Mickey. um I know she's been here a long time and uh she was an invaluable asset. You know, when I first came on board as city manager, somebody I could trust, you know, um certainly obviously had her, her, the pulse of the finances and she's taken time, you know, ‸ and answered a lot of my questions and really helped me and in many ways and put up with all those questions and wondering how well why can't we do it this way? And she's always, she's been there and i thank her for her advice and counsel. You know, but I will say it's, you know, at the end of the day, it's about public service and Mickey Abdi has diligently and faithfully served the citizens of
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and the ratepayers of
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utility system, you know, and uh so, I mean, we owe a debt of gratitude to her and, you know, and we appreciate all that you've done for the city. I can tell you, I personally appreciate it and I know um uh we're gonna ‸ miss you and value our friendship.
i'm
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gonna ‸ miss that, you know, and um and I certainly wish you and in your retirement and, um and uh I don't know, maybe for the first month might be a little bitter wishing some motion sickness or something like that. But after that, I'm sure I'll be over it. Just
being honest.
You know, it just, but uh we do thank you and you've done a wonderful job and, uh you know, you well deserved. Thank
you very much.
Okay. okay I'm gonna give
everything else up to you. I want to be
there when you, with Mickey hands off
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‸ i'm
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it to Terry, not him.
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Yes, sir. First of all, again, miss Abdi, job well done. You've been a good and faithful servant to the citizens of
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That speaks volumes, especially putting up with myself and my fellow cohorts as well, but seriously, on
a
positive note, ma'am, thank you. Really, thank you. You don't know the lives that you have positively impacted Seriously. So I thank you. uh Mr. man this one, I want to say
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I think it went over very well. great uh Great meeting. Yes, sir. Everyone participated and everyone uh did their part. And I said thank you to you to
you
all. Job well done. City manager and staff. And it was fun to make sure I could do a little round of applause there. And uh things worked out well. So I think all the citizens of District
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and beyond. and And all the various public servants that showed up. So I said thank you very much for not only just caring, but sharing uh your thoughts, sharing your thoughts and ideas with us. um Next, we talked about the green waste. We're addressing that issue. uh Mr. ‸ Chief of Police,
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my man, uh Brother Gibson
brundage
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I know you're addressing that issue, so I thank you very much, sir. ‸ He's there. And we're going to address that and stay positive and proactive. Several people have called me and even pulled me over to the side when I'm walking throughout the community telling me about just the concern about his safety. So we'll just move forward with that. And I thank you for your input, citizens of
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um I remember a time when our city, and I know we're changing our image, but I want to speak civic minded. um I was approached by a couple of individuals concerning about signs. Remember, we would have like a Rotarian sign or a Lion sign when we
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and uh community uh
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activities or community groups. When we come and exit
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city, we would have a sign saying whatever. We're missing this? Yes, sir. So I'm just asking uh civic minded, Mr. City Manager, Mr. Mayor, Council members and staff. um Are we contemplating implementing those signs? uh
There was only one location that I know of that they were. I
i i really appreciate you know that. and In a lot of communities, there's been a tradition for those sorts of entrance signs i just need to ‸ tell you just um that the
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and there's work going on all over the country trying to figure out you know how
how
to um regulate signs. And you know on the drawing board will be um a comprehensive review of the sign code. I will tell you that based on that u.s supreme court case the regulation of
signs
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has gotten gotten much more difficult um for municipalities.
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um Like
Kiwanis Club.
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Right.
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You may not be able to like just ‸ to have those types of signs without um you know opening up um a Pandora's box. um I just wanted to let you know that I i can take that
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consideration when we're going to be evaluating, comprehensive evaluation of the sign code. uh
but
but right now, I would caution caution you until um we can get to that issue because of that new u.s supreme court case
okay
and and ed correct me i don't think that currently those are still up
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believe there's some still up on
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Yeah, we've not removed any. And then and
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was related to a church Merritt Island. You know, I don't even know if that... I think that one's still up there. That needs to be... But uh but absent that, I don't know that we've gone around and
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over here.
‸ we're missing some other... Yeah.
that's The city is not, but but we are aware... ‸ you know we've well
I know our sister ‸ city has several signs posted as well.
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So um my concern is trying to be fair and equitable across the board. I hear you over
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I hear you loud and clear. But um my thing is just to see traditionally
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being pro coco brain pro city oriented. i I think um if we could... um
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you give us your rendering? Yes, sir.
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um I know it's a sensitive issue. ‸ i look forward to hearing your comments. But other municipalities are doing the same. So I do not want to be left out. That's what I would like to say. And on that note, um go Tigers! I want to say thank you all.
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So I do support breast cancer. And uh thank you all. Thank you for showing up for the district meeting. Thank you. that's it support Support local, spend local, buy local.
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and thank you for reminding them of it. that's always
good to have two
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‸ slipped right up on me. I knew you were gone but I didn't know you were going. But I want to thank you for your service. And one of the things I've told every city manager that
i've been here
during my term, and there have been three of them, that had you're a gem. And I sincerely mean that. You're an absolute gem when it comes to the finances. And I appreciate your counsel over the years. And I wish you well
in
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your retirement. Thank
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think I mentioned this a little bit earlier when when when Ed was talking. I noticed that at least two of those lights on the new where you get water and electricity are intermittently working. So if you could have somebody take a look at those. Yes, we'll check those out. It would be pretty.
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‸ in warranty periods. Right. ‸ at those. fixed
that stood there for quite a while and said,
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i also noticed that uh last night when I was out and about that the street lights at the intersection of
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Michigan are not working at all. It's very dark there like it was during the major part of ‸ construction. So I don't know if the, if the you know, uh a fuse blue or what. They
were working the other morning. and ‸ Yeah, maybe they weren't supposed to be on because they were
working on them or something, but none of them were working. It was quite dark there last night. So if you could check into that. um I had the, when I got back from my uh vacation,
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from the sugar shack and uh
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I didn't see a calorie
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you
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you that. So I recommend anybody ‸ hasn't been there, get on down there because there's something else.
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part of our wellness program. There you go.
There you go. One
donut for i have all the city
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My sister was here and she went back today, but I, she and I walked in there and we wanted to, uh since we're from Richmond, we wanted to talk to the owner
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and in Richmond that Richmond has become the uh the donut and uh and craft beer, capital of the East Coast for
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donuts up there now. I guess that's why ‸ yeah i guess that's why everybody weighs 250 pounds or more. you know
Anyway,
buy local.
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though um Don,
‸ Well, I guess it's been a long five years, a good
man.
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my
Mickey. Hello. A great five years working with you, ‸ remember, when i first started back in
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great and very good sense of humor.
you
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know that. ‸ I mean, you gotta have if you're going to be part of the city, you know. But
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and enjoy all your future human cruises. Have a good time. Thank
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remind ‸ everyone, there's a new stamp out for
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It's the Forever Stamp, and
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It's a regular postage stamp. You buy it, and so much of that money goes towards a memorial, I think they said, for the Medal of Honor recipients. So I didn't even
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only 20 on the sheet. So, and that's about it. Now, uh uh ‸ if you can guess where I'm going next, another knee operation, so hopefully uh this one it'll be a charm.
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Yeah,
November 12th.
Yeah, I'll plan on being there. um Also, while we're on the discussion, um I do also want to say um it's been a pleasure, Mickey. um First go round and this go round
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Thank you very much. But
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because um Terry kept me in line for eight years. So i I know she's very capable and so I'm not worried. And so you can go enjoy your vacation and you know that we'll be in good hands and not that we
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hans we'll call you.
uh yeah um I'd also like to thank the police department and the fire department for participating in the chili cook-off because I'm sure if it wasn't for um um our insistence up here, it probably wouldn't have happened. And I know it was a lot of work on their part. I'd also like to congratulate Officer Bradshaw on his uh victory. And I think that somebody needs to make a rule that uh nobody is allowed to serve chili with a gun
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And I also want to know how I stood and watched a lot of people put their tickets in Officer Bradshaw's bucket before they ever tasted his chili. So I want to know how that happened too. I
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‸ You know, and I watched
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He had just stepped over and put them in the box. So, you know, there there was something going on there.
So we're losing Yeah.
But anyway, Officer Bradshaw's chili was good. He did deserve to win the People's
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um I'm not going to um steal the Mayor's thunder about our water tank, but I would like to ask, when are we due to do something with
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Okay. it says
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All right. Because, you know, if we got another opportunity to win something, that
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Well, I just think there's a lot of possibilities there. um ‸ And I just want to add to Ed's list of things that he's accomplishing this year. um On my way in ‸ tonight, I noticed that just a little bit north, like two houses north of Captain Ed's house on the River Road, is a huge pothole right in the middle.
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Yeah.
Yeah. And it's hard to miss because it's right in the middle of the road. So um that and also, right there north of Dixon, um there's a place there where the sidewalk stays wet. ‸ we went 10 days with no rain and never dried up there. And one of the homeless people who lives in the woods there told me that the reason it doesn't is because there's a spring on that vacant property there. And
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that that spring water is now just running down and that's what's keeping our sidewalk wet. So if somebody could maybe take a look. Because yeah, 10 days of no rain and that water never went away.
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Right. We're we're going to address that. Also the river was high. So the groundwater table was extra high. But I guess
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water running ‸ It is. Yeah. So maybe, I don't know if we can do anything about it. But it's really, we've got the, um we've got the the um marathon coming up. I would hate for that to be like that with all the runners that are going to be headed north along. There it's
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on it. Now that it'd be dangerous for anybody to walk on there where that water is that's
laid
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Thank you.
That's it for me. Thanks, Mr. Mayor.
That
was good. Yeah, I
forgot something I wanted to to bring up. I want to thank our our police and fire fighters and the county animal control for rescuing those dogs out of that storm drain. That was pretty good. I don't know how the cop heard that, but he did and they and they got three dogs out of a storm drain
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Is that right? Yeah, because I thought it's cooking. It's good. Real good. Okay. um Mickey. I just want, I want to thank you on behalf of everybody for bringing John along. You know what
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you know
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you can do.
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that, Terry. um No, but ‸ thanks for everything. And and and yeah I think the ship, was it's righted itself pretty pretty good. i think I think your experience, you know, working with John. John's pretty crafty, you know, and finances. I was worried about that at first, of course, John. But um
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And um hopefully when you're done cruising, three or four cruises, you think about moving out of bay tree because your water water bill is going to be really high by the time you come back. And
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You know? ‸ You can sit in the audience and critique
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it. I have a bunch of things to say, but I'm just going to cut it down to the end here,
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but ‸ wouldn't it be nice to see Tank Island? You're coming back from the beach, you know, East Cocoa, and
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East Cocoa. We can do it. It's
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within our reach, you know. But anyways, let me let me start up by by saying on the it's no joke that the water tower is, it means a lot to everybody here, and uh and I just, I'm so proud of how everybody pulled it together. um
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uh I've heard about the competition for a few years, but but as far as us finding out about it, and nine days into it out of 12 days, and and having the community mobilizing and and uh bringing ‸ in votes to put us in position to win the whole thing, um save the details, but I just want to
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you know, and put us in position to do this, and, you know, the council members, of
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buddy. You're very competitive, and uh there's things that happened after we got in, and Sam knows it, that we did,
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and, you know, it's I personally think it was your painting that put us over when we tweeted that out. That painting is worth, that I can't admit, it's probably, he's at home sleeping, but the thing is, is that painting is worth twice what he paid for it. Now, now...
Yes, it is. Jack,
I'm gonna ‸ go through this really slowly, then we're gonna ‸ get out of here, okay?
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talking about the water system, but my gosh, man, you know, talking to me, and you feel my nervous energy for the last couple ‸ years about getting that thing right,
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I'm all nervous about stuff, but that that tank turned out beautiful, perfect, and it's a perfect focal point for us to project where we're going, like Mickey just said,
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I appreciate everything here you do. And um Samantha, of course, and Yvonne Martinez, the PIO, and uh the police department chief. And chief, Yvonne, got the uh
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went out there, and they took pictures with the tower. That was part of our strategy to influence the the company. I believe it worked, you know along with other things we did. um
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Of course, all the employees that ‸ supported, appreciate that. Everyone who voted, uh
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we appreciate that,
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does. And uh yeah just ‸ give a little bit of feedback, the the tower, everybody's seen it for many, many years. It's 58 years old. um you know Again, our water that Jack brews up, you know he has a long list of people that's been in charge of it. has gone to space many times, has been to the moon. that's right And Jack heard me say the other day, he's gonna you guys ‸ gonna ‸ be brewing some water up to go to go to Mars at some point. You know what I mean? So, um we're proud of that. We don't talk about that very often. I know Mr. Blake does, from time to time. But it's good to let all the kids know and all the population know that our our water is a little different, a little special, you know, compared to everybody else's. Also, um this is this is a funny part. um
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I called her, and I said, uh man, I haven't heard anything from South
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Nothing. okay and then sure enough that night sunday night on one of my facebook posts i get the like the deputy mayor he zooms in and he says hey it's really ‸ nice that you won uh the water tower award you know and and and but it'd be a lot better if it was two miles south you know So I sat there for about 10 seconds. And I go, So
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Rockledge. Meaning I moved the big house from Rockledge.
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but But uh then he didn't like that. So that that's how it goes. But also,
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me just end up by saying, somebody's got to say it. you know we can We can sit here and just live life and go through procedures and you know and uh be happy. Or we can step out and say, you know what? I'll end up with this. you know As mayor, uh
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you know everybody that cares, all the
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And we have the hardware to prove it right there. And
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And I'm i'm proud of where we've been going. And uh that's it. So thank you. Motion to adjourn.
Good job, Mr. Mayor. Second.
thank you All
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