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he is. Oh, is he? Provided an update on that. Because we have between the, uh, all the kids stuff in our luggage and
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fee you ‸ pay instead of 145
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Do you think it's,
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‸ so it's more. ‸ They can make it
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the back end by not increasing the cost of the
project. Would
you think that we'd be able to? I would say how you know you're there, but. Without going to council? In capital, though, that's a problem. ‸ No, but it's not for you, but, I mean, it's an example for someone.
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but it's in their repairs and maintenance no Well, no, we
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No, it's going from operating to... ‸ Yeah, ‸ going from capital equipment to capital infrastructure
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for you.
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are probably wore out. You're up to what? They do? crack it on. oh
yeah. So, for your meetings, ‸ That's good to know. The most recent.
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right you guys want me to call the meeting to order
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we
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five people.
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Mrs Jenkins? The staff, ‸ you guys know Mrs Jenkins?
Mrs.
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Barbara Jenkins, you all ‸ probably seen her street.
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‸ i'm just visiting
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the um northwest part of the city um and lives out in uh Lost Lakes. So, Councilman and currently
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‸ And
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our city manager. And
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okay On your left, my right, starting
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Howe, our assistant finance director. Mike
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and John is going to get up and give us an update on the fire station. I know some of you um have not had the fire station presentation
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want to talk about.
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Okay. uh Yeah, this is, as Councilwoman Warner indicated, this is kind of an update and a progress report. So uh
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uh September of last year, when Council first uh ‸ workshop made the decision based on the study performed by an independent uh consulting firm to evaluate our fire service. uh So we'll go ahead and get through this. uh The agenda, just one, to discuss the city's plan to improve the fire service, uh talk about the renewal and replacement, uh review the station relocation analysis, looking at all the various criteria, and what improvements will happen as a result of the realignments. What are the plans for ‸ existing fire stations?
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That's a question that comes up a lot. And then
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timeline, and then some questions and answers. uh First, in 2013, as I was being hired as the city manager, pretty much all ‸ Council said we need a plan to expand and improve our fire service. uh That year, uh besides changing the way we did our fire assessment uh to make it more fair and equitable,
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of solo paramedics to enhance our advanced life support services. uh
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fire medics, which enables us to have at each of the three stations at any given time, at least three members on at each station plus the district fire chief. So it'd be 10 personnel on on duty on on any given day, at least 10. Sometimes it it it goes higher, depending on vacation, people call out their Kelly days. And so uh and that was important because ‸ that really um there's some standards behind that, working with other communities and make sure we have adequate coverage. And fiscal year
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last year, uh we purchased, these
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or apparatus uh and then two new fire engines. We also purchased, what you know, the the the mobile emergency response vehicle. It's like a Polaris. It's got uh skids on the back with all their gear for the purposes of utilizing that. Like we have at Juneteenth, we have at the park. On special events, it helps the uh the fire personnel that are on duty respond to any emergency emergency and within you know, a really tightly contained area with a lot of people, you know, so they get some around
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uh We also had to purchase a new district chief vehicle, if I recall correctly.
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was a Ford Excursion. it was a It was time. And then that year we ‸ actually retained the consultant. uh We did it both. The consultant to do the station location analysis and the architect to do the design. They actually were one contract and one was subbed. uh And uh and then ‸ 16, this year, we have a new rescue vehicle. uh We have the cabin chassis in and they're working on the box to that. uh And that will be, uh
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to go in service. uh And then uh the other thing is we had by the chief ‸ new fire vehicle because it had a lot of miles on it and he was arriving in Impala and to respond to certain scenes and stuff like that.
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that. And
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equipment and then
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And ‸ the plan is in uh the beginning of fiscal year 2017, probably the first couple weeks of October, depending on when we're we're able to go to the market, uh you pledging our fire assessment uh revenues. This Thursday,
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will be in uh at a court hearing validating those through the courts. And then we'll be going to the market for the purposes of
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first and foremost, I mean, people said, how'd you do it? It was really a data-driven decision. uh We loaded up all the data. We evaluated five years of calls for service, both from the city and the county, because we have auto weight agreements and mutual aid agreements. and I don't think either of us could operate by ourselves, nor could Rockledge operate by himself
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because uh it's, and the chief can correct me, but ‸ my ‸ understanding, you need like almost 15 people on a scene, you know, if there's a fire. And if we have 10 people, we need somebody else to help us and vice versa.
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we probably spent about four hours in Rockledge helping them with a fire
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one early morning. So we kind of work with each other. uh So it was based on the calls for service. We analyzed where all the calls to service by type, uh whether it was like a fire call or
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was a EMS ‸ call. And we plotted those. Actually, we did, but the consultant did. And then they looked at where all the the very available properties were and and where they should, i this station should ‸ be ideally located to meet certain standards.
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Rockledge. And I already mentioned we can contract with a consultant to uh perform an independent analysis. And ‸ then they also looked at the spatial needs You know, how big should the stations be? You know, what ‸ like, because they're more modern nowadays in terms of their, you know, if we want to extend the life of equipment, we have storage in certain areas versus right now it's our stations were built, you know, going back far back
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the new stations? One, be they're outdated, but the the growth of the city, both in land area, the population increase and shift, uh has resulted in inefficient and ineffective service, uh in terms of providing those fire service protection services to our citizens. There's a, the National Fire Protection Association, uh uh has some numerous standards. One of them is standard 1710, which basically says you need to respond, uh
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that was one of our biggest things that we needed to do to increase our response time. And some of the data I show you in a minute will demonstrate where we are and where we will be with the relocation realignment. uh our stations are old and obsolete in terms of, you know, um
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uh the fire service is modernized, uh in terms of, uh we now have female firefighters and male firefighters. So, and they're, they need to be housed in separate quarters, uh have separate bathroom facilities, uh showering facilities, things of that nature.
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That's important when it comes to some of the fire, firefighter, fire medics, uh health and life safety, specifically some of the OSHA issues. uh already mentioned the, the, the, the, ‸ evolution of the fire service. And
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not ideally situated or located to optimize our response to call and provide equal service
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all residents throughout the city.
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and It's about seven square miles. You can see the
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we have nothing up north of 528 except this high point. And then, uh and then this was the furthest extent, you know, basically Cox Road. This was annexed
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So, but that's the boundary map. And now where are we today? You can see, we now go all the way out here.
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520. We have all this property up here and then all this industrial up here, which while it is good for the tax base, it presents a whole host of challenges because of the occupancy and the uses that are in that property. Sometimes, I mean, there's a lot of combustibles and their industrial operations. uh that There are sites up there that we have been to on a frequent basis. You know, some of the recycling facilities that have caught on fire. You see the plume of smoke going up and it's, I think we've been there a couple times this year, it seems like. So as you can see, it's expanded here as well as, you know, we've even you know annexed this area over here and coming out over here. So we went from seven
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miles. In terms of our population, uh this is ‸ chart, you know, back in
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Really different back then. And then in which is, this is phenomenal growth in large in large measure due to the the space industry. uh
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and there's only 12 000 just under 12 300 Station
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‸ in
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And then Station
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in 1981, just over 16 000 So we didn't see that growth like that. So it's stabilized. And so we got up there and then we lost population, but now we're back to growing. Now the projections for uh these populations in 19 000 by 2030, we expect to pass that probably in the next couple ‸ years because they didn't think we were going to be here until probably,
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you know, where we've got a lot of new residential and a lot of opportunities for redevelopment in our existing areas in the Diamond Square redevelopment area and the Cocoa redevelopment area, even opportunities along the
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corridor and then the new development, you know, both north and west of the city uh within the limits. So the population's changed, moved around, expanded. uh These are what we call density maps or heat maps and it kind of, the brighter the color means that's the concentration of the phone, uh ‸ the calls for service. So I'm going to focus on the fire calls for service. If you look, if if you can imagine this line right here going straight across it's 520.
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but this is the center where all our calls for service are for fire. Not saying there's not calls down here or over here ‸ up here, but that's the, that's the, that's the hot spot if you will.
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or, you know, our the ALS ambulance transport. uh We don't transport, the county does,
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that or is this blocking? Okay. So you can see, so here's 520. This is probably
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Boulevard, about right here, coming through. And so, but you can see the calls for
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paramedic transport, of which we rely on the
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that's a responsibility to to respond as well, and then transport to the hospital ‸ event of a medical emergency. So, I mean, uh every second is important. So right now, where are we in terms of our stations? Our existing stations, we have
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we have station 44 out here, which is the counties. And out
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down in here, it's coming from there. to be transported to the hospital. You know, our our personnel can ‸ arrive on scene, provide the necessary, you know, advanced life support. But when the county comes in, ideally, they take over and they transport to the hospital. So, uh
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And that's important later, because I think it's trying to, as we discuss this.
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wanted to make sure we met that four minute response time, uh which is the NFPA standard 1710, doing that 90 percent, capture 90 percent of calls, and
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station east of the railroad. I mean, it's one way or the other. We have to, wear wherever in position we have to have one east of the railroad, especially with a lot of the high the the higher, more dense buildings downtown. Plus, if an emergency happens on this side of
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railroad tracks and there's a training or maybe there's a some type of incident, we got to be ‸ able to have access one way or the other. uh Then we also were looking at what sites were readily available or could be easily controlled by the city.
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and, you know,
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Village, the Heart uh hard Cocoa, Diamond Square Redevelopment Area,
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Corridor, uh be able to accommodate the redevelopment there, but also looking at our future growth, you know, up to the north and out in here and west of 95.
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where we cannot get to within four minutes.
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but, you know, all of this, all of this, this, a lot of this. uh We even have areas right here, College Green. and then some areas out here. So even right here, this is in the city. So we have areas that we're not getting to, so we're not providing our service, you know, probably in the most efficient fashion, making sure everybody gets the service that they need. So what the consultant did, uh and they were with us at a meeting the
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of these dots represents a data point where they will evaluate all this criteria I'm going to show you in a minute. They evaluated the criteria for every, these are theoretically every potential location a fire station could go, and they evaluated all
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south and this. You see the gaps out in here as well, here and here.
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ultimately evaluated that came out of all that, that said these are viable potentially viable ones. And then they narrowed it down ‸ they looked
it up
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you know each of the
scenario
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which one met that you know the criteria to optimize and ensure that we can respond in an efficient and effective manner. And they scored all of them, you know, because there's, I'm going to go over every one of these variables. You'll be able to see them more clearly in the next slide because I know that's a really big chart, but
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You know, these are, so, so let's go to the next one. These were the top, the characteristics of the top three sightings scenarios, plus the status quo. And uh so looking at the status quo and I have arrows, we have arrows right next to all this,
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whereas and then percent of all city calls just under 90 percent 89.9 percent total square footage in the city meaning all the
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at least the the values of the building. uh Population, only covering
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of the population of the household, the same, about
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living facilities, elder care, uh our high hazard occupancies, or, you know, such as industrial or in our our heavy commercial where there could be a, we want to minimize the potential, you know, not just the damage or the continue,
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be able to contain something if it's an industrial nature. So, as you so we were at 88 to
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respectively. So the top three scenarios that came out, you know, looking at these, scenario 5B stood out the most
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from
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population, these were the, I think, that i've highlighted, at least put a box around them.
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able to be covered. and
the total
households going
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almost 98 to 100 So that's the scenario that was
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September last year. there's a workshop the council. The consultants came in with the architect, and they presented all the various data, and council chose that, you know, this is the scenario that we needed to move forward with to provide the most efficient and effective service, you know, and ensure all areas of the city are covered equally. So how does that look? Here's our existing stations. and Remember, these are those are considerations. And I'll just go. And then, a minute I remember I told you the brown shaded area to fix where the city cannot respond in four minutes. We'll blow it up so everybody can see the difference. It's again, station one, two, three.
and
then uh
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Yeah, that's right.
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the Hooper property. That's exactly very good that's exactly what it is. uh Which has residential residential future land use and zoning on it, you know. Now, so, and then station 44. So, the brown area is what
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area. Now, watch the map. That's
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scenario 5B. So, now we pick up all ‸ High Point, our industrial area up in here, because it's where the main area is, you know, this area up here. There's still a little bit up here, but uh there's a little place right here. We get it, although out here is a little bit of, we'll be honest, a little bit of challenge, but we rely, there's a station 29 up here. But you can see we come out here. All of the, now Cocoa North is in. uh
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really, that's concert Cocoa Conservation Area. This is at the end of a, of a really, of a
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type, a big circle coming ‸ out of a Cocoa Bay uh subdivision. And then, you know, getting more of Lost Lakes in.
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minutes, but again, we're still relying on, we're working with the county on this. But as you can see, we don't reduce any of our existing coverage to the south, to the east, actually pick up the the Hoover property that you mentioned.
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with scenario 5B. And and I should say, that's important. That's based on
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uh well what is currently station one. Station, what is currently station two, or is moving at Dixon and uh ‸ Clear Lake, essentially. And then one going out on 524, but still using this. So it'd be a force, ‸ three stations for us before counting the county.
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large measure, as you see that response map, how it kind of goes like this. Because trucks and vehicles don't uniquely just go to the end of a circle within four minutes. They may have to travel ‸ different type of road, different level of speed, uh more traffic signals. There's so many different variables that enter into how, determines that they can, how can they get to, how can the station get this truck get over here to
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Island ‸ four minutes. ‸ It's really, that just shows there's less overlap. So we achieved the aggregate format response time, 90 of the calls, one station east of
the
railroad. uh These are sites that are readily available. Actually, they're currently under control by the city. They've been purchased some, you know, and then it accommodates all of our desire for continued redevelopment. No matter what happens
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Dixon. No matter what happens there, we're still going
to
be in a position to respond appropriately to those calls for service. Plus, expands it out here, as we mentioned, west of I-95 and north of 524. So, uh the three sites, uh
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and the
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that's right basically right across the street from the Sunoco, if you will. uh The Brunson Boulevard, the old city council chambers, uh we're in the police department, where the police part used to be, that's the
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‸ station that's, you know, just south of here, we'll move up into there. And then, Dixon Boulevard and Clear Lake, you know, where there's
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Clear Lake Middle, uh the old track. you know It'll
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it'll, it's right here, actually,
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is just how, that
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uh And you can see how it's going to fit. This
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have four,
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storage, the fire station, and there's still, you see, there's,
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But it fits on there and they
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and then coming out this, you know, here. Because remember that hot spot, if the map went all the way over,
would be
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over here. uh certainly Here's the old city council chamber slash PD, police department site. uh You
have
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access to Forest Avenue,
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see this is just a two-bay station storage and parts you know, the main fire station. 524, uh
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While it's being developed as a two-bay station, it's being, it will, it'll be, a common it'll accommodate the ability if need in the future. So we have to, you know, obviously you don't want to do this, you know, every couple decades. You want to really try to extend it out for a long period of time is to accommodate potentially an additional, you know, bay, you know, to provide additional service. If the area continues to to grow or explode as we believe it will. uh So then we come to the next part is what's the plans for the existing stations? ‸ this is important. Station one, it's going to be closed for services. That property will be repurposed for future redevelopment. So it's closed because the station's moving north.
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I mentioned that we, in the, in the process of reviewing the uh agreements with the county and
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uh one of the things in our calls for service analysis with the
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that
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north of
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and 520. uh And they provide those, they come in because they provide, you know, rescue service and transport, is they currently have those two rescue units that are running concurrently out at on Lake Drive and
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because we think it enhances our protection, our service, is bring one of them in, located out of station two and run uh EMS, you know, transport services
at a
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station, the existing station two. So that will, that will be, so that will provide enhanced services because all of our data didn't even include the option or the, even
though
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the concept at the time of keeping station two open to provide EMS and uh transport services out of that station. So that brown map, is the shaded area, it arguably to some extent from an EMS standpoint, that area could probably expand to a certain degree. I mean, it just
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because even if you're able to do 60 miles an hour on 520, uh you're talking at least two and a half minutes. ‸ we're talking, bringing that service two and a half minutes closer. And we all know, I mean, in the event of a catastrophic injury or illness or a heart attack or some other type of ‸ a seizure, I mean, two minutes ago, one minute can make a difference. So we're bringing the two and a half minutes closer. So they'll be there much closer. So that's why we say it so provide enhanced services to us because now we're overlapping with our three station model.
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with the county. And we actually have the agreement, uh City Council, and I'm going to go over it. uh We just today, the chief and I reviewed one change that we're seeking to clarify based on some comments from the county. And it was scheduled to go at this next meeting.
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because we need the county attorney to sign off on it. And uh and so we'll be set on that because it's really a it's really a minor change, if you will, because the big thing was the lease and all that. So
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have
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that one's going to be closed for service entirely. So that I mean, and I know some of the neighbors and ‸ the residents up there are concerned because their station
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their station is going to
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But you know, we're kind of trying to not tie a station to geography, but tie it to the entire city and how the stations in in in totality serve the entire city, not any specific area. So station three is going to be closed for service completely. Now we're going to keep the building. It's the newest of the three buildings built in 1981. But it's going to be retained to store equipment and
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such as you know, when we uh when we get the new rescue vehicle, ‸ we get a new engine in,
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But
we
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try to keep the one that's in best shape from a fleet standpoint. So it can provide backup if we're getting maintenance done on one of our other our existing ones that uh that that's in service. Because if you don't do that daily maintenance. And I
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you know, on our uh our cars to get the oil you know, oil change, get the tires rotated, you know, and just kind of check the fluids. Well, if they don't do that, the life of that vehicle and that they'll take the ladder truck, the tires are
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The tires, I mean, we think we have a hard attack when you can pay about
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for a set of tires,
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for the tires. so uh if we don't do that it's a 1.2 million dollar investment in the community
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So uh and what's really important about I think the station too is because when we met with city council and the consultants presented their stuff, one of the things the direction of the mayor council, uh councilman Blake was very adamant about is we needed to one figure out a way to we can continue to have a presence and a level of service being provided in Diamond Square. And we had already had engaged in conversations with the county. At that time, it was very conceptual, you know, just a couple of couple meetings, talking about the possibilities. And they said, you know, we need to, staff, you need to work on that.
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So that station is going to stay open
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rehashing. uh It's based on ‸ the calls for service. 85 of our calls for service come there, hence the need bringing that EMS service in closer to
provide it.
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we would say, an enhanced level of service and providing our auto aid
agreements.
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And then we've also looked at our agreements with the City of Rockledge, and we've engaged conversations with them. I mean, we have an existing mutual aid agreement, but
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their fire chief about the auto aid agreement. And it's only ‸ highlight what only highlights that is both cities have a need. When
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weeks ago, I mean, our units were there for four, you know, three to four hours, you know, helping them.
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yes
And then the other thing is, you know, why it's important is like in ‸ central Brevard,
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has the mainland that has a ladder truck. That's
correct.
So
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they would they would need our support in a big way. So uh so that's why we have
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think any city nowadays operates in a vacuum or
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So uh
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you know, the the type of calls, the blue represents EMS calls and the red fire calls. Now, if you see a red call within the ‸ magenta or the the green areas, or no,
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So that's where the county's coming in to help us, or they have or Rockledge because you see a lot of them in Rockledge actually, uh or we've requested they come in to help us whether they automatically come in or
we
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request them. So uh and here's their station. There that's that's the star. It's kind of hard with this map. It's ‸ very busy. But the blue calls and if you go back to that heat map or that density map
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service. Here's 520. Here's your calls for service. And that's EMS. The fire you can see because there there's fewer fire while there's
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dumpster fires, uh vacant you know ‸ property uh uh in terms of like a brush fire or maybe a lot term of fire. but I think about about
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that. So it's
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that's stationed here, there's two of them. One of them is coming in to occupy through partnership and
a lease
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with the city at Station
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So we're bringing it into the city two and a half miles versus out on lake drive and 520. now there is a rockledge does have a unit down here as well. They have a station down here. ‸ And then i'm having one over here as well. in the county We're bringing the county ‸ Yeah,
that one will remain. yes
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the
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bringing their rescue unit in to operate out of
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shows you now 2014. Well, it looks like there's less calls, but you can still see the concentration of the EMS calls. uh Here's the because then 15. This was when we started this process. You can see, that again, the high con You ‸ look even downtown. You know, high concentration. All right here. So,
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but uh Station
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it's conducive and functional to remain in service to run EMS services. uh You know, the select in large measure due to the size of the station, it's relatively a small station ‸ a lot. uh It's closer. I probably have emphasized that already. uh It's closer for Brevard County Fire Rescue to respond.
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again, we have the agreement uh September 13th. That'll come before City Council. ‸ that had And you'll see there's a change coming up. But improvements ‸ the existing Station
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we need to, before we turn it over, you're not turn over, releasing it to them, uh is that we want to, one, make some improvements to the exterior. I mean, it's in our community. uh There's some gutter, gutter repair, painting, and we're going to replace the doors uh on that.
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well and then well it's another project not related to this,
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uh at uh Provost, unrelated to this, next year we're going to build a parking lot there. Make an actual parking lot with curb gutter that will help with some of the flooding and also uh direct that stormwater runoff appropriately, but but also provide more organized. and One, it's going to look better aesthetically, you know, in the heart of our, you know, of the Diamond Square area, you know,
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and then
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going to overlap service and, oh when we start this, but probably about a couple months out, because
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We've already selected the contractor for the main, that what we'll call the headquarter station, and they're doing value engineering right now. And
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are due back from the, what we're calling the satellite stations. And, uh ‸ you know, we have to, obviously price dictates everything. We'll get those bids back. We'll take some of the value engineering that we're doing in Station
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try to apply that to the satellite stations.
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the end of the day, our residents, ratepayers, and fire assessment, we have
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million
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to build all three stations. And that I know that seems like, ‸ that's a lot of money. When we started this out, when we did our initial research, based on what other communities were paying locally, we were
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We're at
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million, and
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So we have
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to build this, to actually physically build, and to put the furniture, fixtures, and equipment in there we already have the big equipment but like the stuff they need for
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we ‸ actually, we've got some, bed we've got some stuff, but
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but stuff that we've purchased recently that can just automatically go into ‸ new stations. We're not just going to throw something out that we bought two years ago. We're going to, you know, be smart with the taxpayers dollars. But, so, they will run with us. The county will come in. They've expressed a desire to run concurrently while while they're there. uh and And then, so, there's an overlap of service service.
and
then, once all of our stations are open, then they would assume full uh service responsibilities out of that station. uh This is a busy slide. A lot of information. because this is This is really everything that's happened in a nutshell. From from September 29th, when the fire station location analysis were first presented to City Council, that was where
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uh Directed staff. yeah I emphasize that. this I think this is it's a really a value-added benefit to the city being able to keep station the existing station
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open and bring EMS services closer. Again,
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you know in terms of uh of travel time. And we have that. i I've crossed through because last week I did this presentation, and at that point
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but because of the last minute change to clarify something that we wanted, you know, to make sure it was clear. uh we The county attorney's got to review it. Our agenda items are due today, no later than tomorrow for next week's meeting. So we're we're pushing
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to review. We want to make sure it's done right. uh And then what's, I don't know if
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But this Thursday, uh I mentioned might the assistant city manager myself, uh our uh consultant, and the attorney go to court for the bond validation hearing. So that will happen. ‸ But this is just the history of when, from after we got this on September 29th, October 20th, in District
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uh results were first discussed. That was the first, outside of this public workshop, of which I believe there were some residents there. trying to it's It happens um almost, yeah, almost a year ago. So, but I know here, ‸ and then
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uh The only ‸ the reason why I call this out like this is because we didn't have this formal presentation, because the consultants that puts together a presentation they presented here, and then we modified ‸ to take it out to the community, if you will, because we took ownership of this of the of the of the information to be presented to the community. So, and then with the
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We presented to all the pastors and uh members of clergy. uh District
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Town Hall meeting was presented. The Ministerial Alliance meeting over here uh ‸ thank you, Pastor Brian, uh and Councilman Blake for helping organize that, bringing the
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The Diamond Square
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I guess the rain didn't affect it, uh because we had about an hour we had about an hour before the rain stopped. But uh
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uh and then today is the uh arguably the last presentation that we'll do prior to, then we'll probably have some going in as everything gets going, and to keep people up to date on what's happening, so everybody knows. Because what the idea is, what we don't want people thinking like you know like we've shared with some people in Michigan. Listen, I know the station is closing on Michigan, but
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your fire service in Michigan. You look at the brown shaded area, everything that's not in the shaded area, we can respond to, we can get there. So the point is to try to keep, you know, because everybody gets, it's a very sensitive issue in terms of like, I used to have one across the ‸ street. You know, I look out my window on Michigan ‸ there's the fire station or
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it's change and it's difficult, but you know, the data, the data demonstrates over and over that we can most effectively and efficiently handle all the city with the station locations as presented. uh I already mentioned, I talked about this probably, I did about fire station that we already have. Council approved the, uh the contractor, these satellite stations. uh
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just like to say that we only had a 78 page presentation. Good. Presentation. Hour and a half. uh The construction activity
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due to commence October, mid-October, you know, maybe ‸ might be a little bit later, but October 2016, we intend to start. I mean, we've actually already, we're doing some, we've done surveying uh on the station that's going to be located downtown. We have to go in and take out some of the ‸ soil uh because there was some, uh p uh benzopyrene. It's, uh it's, a it's a PA, it's a PAH and it's basically, a it's, it's not that far, away 18 inches, 24, 24 inches deep, top soil basically. But we still have to take it out. You know, the station's not going to be located on it, but it's best just to take it out because obviously we don't want anybody, any issues.
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out and there's no contamination underneath it. There was an above ground storage
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there ‸ there's no issues with that, but there is some, the benzopyrene, which is, some of it's naturally occurring. Some of it could be from,
literally, put, park your car
on the lawn and let it run and the exhaust can, it can put out, you know, that, those contaminants into the grass. So, but the anticipated completion of uh construction is September, 2017. and I'm done. that's the any questions that you might have. I know, I feel bad that they probably, they could give this presentation now. They've probably seen it so
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do them all concurrently in terms of construction.
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the satellite stations. We knew who our contractor is for the ‸ main station. To the citizens benefit, we're hoping they sharpen their pencil. Because, obviously, if they you know if they sharpen their pencil well enough and they get
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we benefit from them being
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We're not going to go one, one, one. It's just best to do all three at the same time.
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i see You see
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the, when you look at the project schedule, so ‸ yes. if we get If we get started in October. Now, you know, we're not FDOT. I'm going to say that. You know, I know there's no barrels on the
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supposed to. It's not going
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we're pretty confident, you know, again,
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All the engineers, the architects, that's when the contractors say they don't have any problem with it.
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we have one contract awarded, the main one, and we don't have the satellite stations in. And when we get the satellite stations in, obviously, they they come in and they have to go to council. So uh they come in. We will have them to council at that first meeting in October. And so we have already, we already have one contract for the main, what we call the admin or headquarter stations. So the first meeting, we're going to have ‸ bring contracts to council uh to get it underway. ‸ Because we're borrowing money and you don't want money sitting in the bank, you know, uh when we're, you know,
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So
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that would be an ideal situation. You don't know if somebody comes in and, you know, because it's all based on price too. I mean, price and quality, but you know, everybody that bid were very quality firms, but one
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lower than the others. So if, you know, ideally, if not, if the other you have, maybe if
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even have, ‸ you, at the worst case, you're gonna ‸ have two contractors, one that we already have under contract, and then one for the two satellite stations. And
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to help us and facilitate and get this done in a timely fashion. Because we don't want to, I mean, there's nothing worse than it just dragging on. ‸ it we're
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sir. so The other thing that helps us with it, there was two different bid processes we had to do because of requirements from the state. State law.
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law on that. So that's why station one's kind of done. And we already got a contractor. And the other two are more simple bid, straight bid, right it you know there's And when they're done, they can be awarded right away. And they're going to be in, I think we're... September 15th. September.
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But September 15th. And if those are done, they'll we'll know who it's going to be. So then we're just waiting for... them
Actually, what what really is we need those in. So then when we go to the market, the city, I mean, I'll say i but when we go to the market with our under... We've actually already have our underwriters already selected as well.
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much money we need. You know, it's under the
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million. Give us your best price. So we know. So we we didn't want to stick with one. We went with two. So they're going to commit They're going to each give us a bid. We're going to evaluate it based on the cost of issuance, uh what services they're providing us. uh And
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we'll have the agreement, you know, with the county, although the agreement's really not going to take effect until... That was one of the changes we had to work on. that It was like ‸ was taking effect immediately. Like, wait, the stations ain't going to be done
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October of next year. but so But we're getting the agreement done because
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know, working with the county. And also we thought it was important, to be quite honest, you know, that we have station, you know, ‸ the recognition that, uh based on council and uh the mayor's direction, about keeping station
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open to provide at least enhanced, you know, uh EMS services. And we were very we were successful in doing that with the county, and i want which I should thank, you know, Chief
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the county manager, the deputy, Stockton, ‸ and then Frank
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with the deputy county manager because that they made it possible.
Is there a backup plan or what's the backup plan? Let's say,
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once ‸ you get everything in place? ‸ Yes. um And then when problems solve to arrive, instead of four and a half minutes, it's you find it a
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‸ Well, that
and uh we based on all the roadway conditions and everything that's done in
population and all
that, we are, you know, and I wish the GIS person, that because it ‸ was an independent contractor, we didn't want to pay them to come out because we kind of felt like we had a really good grasp of data. they We don't see any major changes in the roadway conditions in terms of speed limit changes or additional intersections. uh Obviously, we to be honest, we're not fans of, you know, I know a lot of people are in the neighborhood speed humps. Speed humps slow down public safety, and plus, you think ‸ how many times you go over a speed hump in a uh parking lot and ‸ you hate it because of your car. well
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over one of those things. it's They have to slow down, and that delays response time. so i mean
‸ Right now, everything looks great, but okay let's say once it's completed, and then here we are a year from
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and This goes back to the coverage that we have now, going back to 1981, the last station being built. That coverage. yeah
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be taking a look at that to make sure we were right, and the GIS people were right when we got started. But
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I think you may have seen, we looked at 15 different scenarios in the beginning to see how we can move them around and make them. And we narrowed them down to those three
as
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what would give us the best by our history. You know, and looking at where we've been, the best scenario. But
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the type roads, whether there are two lanes, four lanes, you know, dead ends,
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So all that was taken in consideration. So we feel pretty good about the data, but we'll have to look at it and manage it. The things that affect us over time is what we look at is
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and distribution. Well, now we're distributing out, based on this data, our stations, because now we're a city of 14 square miles
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were built way before that, so we were about half that size. So to spread out and provide that four minute coverage,
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But even those other shades, we can probably get there in five minutes or so. But uh National Fire Protection Association says you ‸ should get there in four minutes in an urban metro area. And then beyond that, if you're in a suburban area, a little bit longer and rural a little bit longer from that standpoint. So most of these areas, even though some of them are suburban, we can feel like we can still get there. But what affects us is when our run load goes up, you know, we've had the same number of units. And then that's when we'll come back to our council and say, hey, or manager and say, ‸ hey. But
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we don't foresee that happening in a while, especially with this model where we have our automatic aid with the county that helps us with 44 and 29 up there. And then
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that we all got to help each other. Because you heard him talk about needing 15. Well, we have a minimum of 10 on duty each day. So we still need five more people. So we get an engine from the county, you know, and we get a rescue from the county that helps us get to that
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each other on every call. And that's just a house fire. We get a commercial fire, big building. We got to bring in everybody from all over. So, yeah, we'll be constantly looking at it.
yeah We
go over there on a regular basis. yeah Yeah, they just, you know, they had a, uh what was it, smoke in the mall? ‸ And, man, we there was units coming from everywhere to be there. And
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And
the building is already the
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to help build these stations or anything?
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local.
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uh There was not a requirement from minority contracting as a whole. um I don't know. I don't know if we'd have to talk if we find out
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who
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and they moved to
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a couple of years ago.
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within Brevard County?
uh
yeah
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their subs, when they go out for bid with their subs, any sub in the county will have an opportunity to bid on their
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it's wj
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construction
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former
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know um on the base I know that. Did you ‸ get volunteering to down with a city
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five years and then transitioned to the space. So my
my comment about evolution is
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really started way back when? I
understood everything you said because I was here when it started. So I i got that.
wow the restroom
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the bell rang at
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o'clock, we all went into the bathroom and emptied the bladder and you hit the road.
We
had no issues. We all slept in the bunk room. ‸ the separate facility things, it's like, God, please.
From a human resource management standpoint, it's a changing environment now. Especially with millennials. with millennials and
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that that's
not the case
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yes ma'am
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No,
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I'm not going to drive.
but I just want to say how much
‸ all
of you are. Very
good. This
is my city.
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I think
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‸ and
i
just
wanted to compliment you and uh because I have always been very interested and anticipated in
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way even though I'm
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meetings and things like I would like to. But I want you to know that I always have. And I'm very happy knowing that you all are doing the very best that you can for us. And I brought that up about my being 88 years old. And I wanted you to know that this has been my city longer than any of you, I'm sure. oh
absolutely. And
I'm still interested in what
happens here.
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That's right. And I want to let you know that I know what you're doing. I'm always on top of it. Even though I can't defend myself or come here, I want you to know that I'm
proud
of all of ‸ And especially that all of you took care of my debate
As
long
as he's here, I want you to continue to do that And we always have my support.
‸ And you all have my support.
Thank you so much.
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uh Her birthday ‸ August 29th.
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I'm glad you came out today because
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much.
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and that's the reason why
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Tables
whatever y'all
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want to call
it. Tables. ‸ Well,
it's it's really an enforcement issue.
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It's
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we find the hot spots, we try to enforce the speed limits. But it just it slows down response time. I mean, not just for not just for fire. I mean, because they've got
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vehicle. But law enforcement, if there's if there's an emergency, somebody calls
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if they've got to come. I mean,
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It's left ‸ behind, you know, i mean you know the rear axle. and It's not fun. They're not inexpensive cars. And especially when it comes to i
mean
because at the end of the day, the men and women of the fire service, if somebody calls
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I mean, they're going to slow down as much as they can. But they're probably still going to go over ‸ a little bit more than they should because they're concerned about ‸ you.
Okay, another question. um are These ‸ over here and these over here.
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This is City
Council. And these are the
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‸ staff. ‸ Our utilities director, our administrative services director, and then our assistant city clerk,
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and our public works director.
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the newlywed. Except for the newlywed.
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‸ these was, you
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never get
anything done. oh come on yes you
do
but
The reason why I asked ‸ because I i want ‸ to know the qualification to become a City Council.
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to that guy right there.
What i had a
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And just, and and just,
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Yes, ma'am. like campaign rules and regulations oh
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i mean it's the financial state they can give you more details but yes ma'am
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community services which is health and excuse me wow
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uh we have four we have four steves in my office so
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oh but some of us have hair
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One more thing I want to say.
Yes, ma'am.
I want to thank whoever in charge of changing these red lights. I just want to thank you for changing the one on the bar.
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On the bar and some of our lake drive. Coming from lake drive, coming from the
bar, crossing
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520.
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Thank God we didn't. But by the time the light changed and we get started, three cops get crossed. And my car was the third cop.
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The light changed. And then people on 520 check it off. Oh yes. You know. So if I was paying attention to that light, I probably would have been in the wreck. But the light don't stay on
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enough. Now, I don't know who fixed it, but somebody fixed it because it's changed. ‸ And now more than two or three o'clock will go across before the light changed again.
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Thank
you.
We can give Blake a 520 ‸ that way too, but I'm not going to press my love.
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If she sees this video, she's coming.
Any more questions?
Yeah,
you
heard about that? Thank you.
‸ Thank you. I'm a
service. That's okay.
You
still here.
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from your auntie? Yeah,
I
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love it.
Took my keys from all of my privileges.
Do you know I'm in a spike?
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Okay. Can I get one more favor? When it's time to take my dad and keys away, can y'all help me?
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Yeah.
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Mr. King said you're going to take
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Look at that!
How
did you get it?
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Yeah. Yeah. ‸ Okay.
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You see me get beat up? Of course.
Try
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We'd all pay money to watch it. So
would I?
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I'm going to keep ‸ my mouth closed.
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Any more questions? Any of the staff? You guys got anything you want to add?
You
say?
John did a good job but couldn't take the link all. He
does. He's a team effort. How about you Mr.
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I
just want to thank the people for participating in our great town hall meeting. Thank you sir.
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How
about
you Mr. Mayor?
Thank you.
Thank
you.
And Mr. Blake? At your
next meeting I think we'd be kind enough to have some food or something to eat. No I want to say thank you job well done district number two representative. One more thing if I could say. We have three people on council that's up for a re-election. Please keep them in mind. That's the young lady in red.
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Please keep them in mind.
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he is very ill.
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So if you all could keep coming in your prayers we would greatly appreciate it. And his wife
Nancy.
We met him.
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He
has all done. All right.
Just
while I got the calendar out just to share a couple dates because there's a couple things coming up. The mayor's community summit on engaging and creating a safer community will be held on. It's September 8th.
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Is it?
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Center. Okay. Then the that's probably the most important. Then obviously we've got some other things with the normal budget meetings and stuff like that. But that that's a really an opportunity to get out. I mean it's
a
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second time we've had it.
You
know a good panel discussion issues. You ‸ know creating a dialogue with the community talking about issues in crime law enforcement engagement. And just it's a great opportunity to continue the progress that's been made. You know between law enforcement and the community. So we're not you know we have a relationship and we're not like the next victim or next community that's facing tensions unnecessarily. Because we can at least sit down and speak to each other.
Amen.
All right. Thank you all.
Thank you. Appreciate you coming out.
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It's station one, right?
Yes.
I
almost got run over the other day.