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Planning & Zoning

Planning & Zoning Regular Meeting

Date
2022-04-06
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #946
Built from the City's minutes records — no AI-written text Briefing final

The City's record

What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (1281_PZ_Reg_Minutes_04_06_2022.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Michael Dobrin, Al Washington, Todd Anderson, Jeri Blanco, Marilyn Green, Susan Mock, Russell Sengel, Justin Simpson, Aleck Greenwood, Merrybeth Burgess
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines; no independent membership list of this board is available to confirm that the roll is complete.)
  • Listed absent: Veronica Lopez, Debbie Joyce
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Angela Essing (Growth and Economic Development Director), Kristin Eick (Board Attorney), Cindy Thurman (Planning and Zoning Manager), Sandra Leone (Planner), Paul Body (Senior Planner), Lavander Hearn (Board Liaison), Mike Blake (Mayor), Alex Goins (Councilmember), Stockton Whitten (City Manager), Monica Arsenault (Recording Secretary)
  • Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: ANDERSON, BLANCO, DOBRIN, GREEN, GREENWOOD, MOCK, SENGEL, SIMPSON, WASHINGTON (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (8)

  • to APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR THE APRIL 6, 2022 REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING (moved by BLANCO, seconded by SENGEL); PASSED 9-0; ayes: DOBRIN, WASHINGTON, ANDERSON, BLANCO, GREEN, GREENWOOD, MOCK, SENGEL, SIMPSON; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
  • to APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE DECEMBER 1, 2021 REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING AS WRITTEN (moved by BLANCO, seconded by SENGEL); PASSED 9-0; ayes: DOBRIN, WASHINGTON, ANDERSON, BLANCO, GREEN, GREENWOOD, MOCK, SENGEL, SIMPSON; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
  • to APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE MARCH 2, 2022 REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING AS WRITTEN (moved by SIMPSON, seconded by BLANCO); PASSED 9-0; ayes: DOBRIN, WASHINGTON, ANDERSON, BLANCO, GREEN, GREENWOOD, MOCK, SENGEL, SIMPSON; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
  • to APPOINT RUSTY SENGEL AS CHAIRPERSON (moved by BLANCO, seconded by GREEN); PASSED 9-0; ayes: DOBRIN, WASHINGTON, ANDERSON, BLANCO, GREEN, GREENWOOD, MOCK, SENGEL, SIMPSON; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 3
  • to APPOINT MARILYN GREEN AS VICE CHAIRPERSON (moved by BLANCO, seconded by ANDERSON); PASSED 8-1; ayes: SENGEL, GREEN, ANDERSON, BLANCO, DOBRIN, MOCK, SIMPSON, WASHINGTON; nays: GREENWOOD — the City's minutes, p. 3
  • to TABLE ITEMS B & C RELATING TO MODWASH, LLC TO THE REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING SCHEDULED FOR MAY 4, 2022 (moved by ALTERNATE MEMBER GREENWOOD, seconded by ANDERSON); PASSED 9-0; ayes: SENGEL, GREEN, ANDERSON, BLANCO, DOBRIN, GREENWOOD, MOCK, SIMPSON, WASHINGTON; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 4
  • to RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL OF A LARGE-SCALE SITE PLAN CONSISTENT WITH APPENDIX A, ZONING, ARTICLE XIII, SECTION 1, TO CONSTRUCT A 107-ROOM MIXED USE HOTEL TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 202,044 SQUARE FEET ON 1.25 ACRES WITH THE CONDITIONS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF (moved by ANDERSON, seconded by WASHINGTON); PASSED 8-0; ayes: SENGEL, GREEN, ANDERSON, BLANCO, DOBRIN, MOCK, SIMPSON, WASHINGTON; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 9
  • to ADJOURN THE REGULAR MEETING OF APRIL 6, 2022 (moved by BLANCO, seconded by WASHINGTON); PASSED 9-0; ayes: SENGEL, GREEN, ANDERSON, BLANCO, DOBRIN, GREENWOOD, MOCK, SIMPSON, WASHINGTON; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 9

Motions for which no result was read from the minutes' text (1)

  • to REAPPOINT MICHAEL DOBRIN AS CHAIRPERSON AND AL WASHINGTON AS VICE CHAIRPERSON (moved by ALTERNATE MEMBER GREENWOOD); no result was read for this motion from the minutes' text — the City's minutes, p. 3

Agenda (the City's wording)

The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (PZ_Reg_Agenda_04_06_2022), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.

Transcript Partial transcript

Machine transcription of the meeting recording. The words are the recognizer's, except where a passage is marked as corrected or machine re-recognized; most have not been checked against the audio, so words, numbers and names can be misheard. It describes what was said. It cannot establish who voted how, an amount or an outcome — the City's minutes do that (above). A time links to its passage, and “Copy link” copies that link. No recording can be started from here.

Speakers were separated by voice. A plain name rests on evidence tied to that voice; “provisional” is a name from an earlier text-only pass and is not verified; “Speaker N” is an unidentified voice.

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Ready city staff. Ready? Okay, this meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board is hereby called to order. We
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thing. With that, Monica, would you call
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Sure. Michael Dobrin.
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Here.
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Al Washington. Here. Todd
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Here.
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Russell Sengel.
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Here.
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Justin Simpson.
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Here.
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Mary Beth Burgess. Here. Debbie Joyce. ‸ Thank you.
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Okay. Thank you. At this point, if everyone could stand up and face the flag. I pledge
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allegiance to
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the flag of the United States of America
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and to the
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republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay.
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as we always do, the first thing on the agenda is to approve the agenda for this evening. That's the
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someone on the
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like
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to make a motion.
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I'll make a motion to approve. Motion
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to approve. We have a second. Second. Okay. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. Okay. Now we're going to
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I'll make a motion to accept as written.
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Okay.
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Thank you. Do we have a second? Second.
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Okay.
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All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. And then we have the minutes of the March meeting. We're short to the point again. Do we have a motion to accept?
[00:02:22] Speaker 6
A motion to accept.
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Second.
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I'll second.
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Okay. All in
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favor
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say aye. Aye. Opposed?
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Opposed?
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Okay.
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business. None. New business.
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[00:02:40] Speaker 1
I'm going to stand up here. Chairman has that right. I've served on the, as president for many years, more than I attended, probably six or seven years. It's not a lifetime appointment. So I'm going
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I'll let it go from there. Do we have any nominations? All of you. Who would you like to see?
[00:03:10] Speaker 4
I'd like to make a motion, please.
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Okay.
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vice chair.
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‸ Thank you.
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You're very welcome.
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I'd like to make a motion, Mr. Chair.
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Do we have a second? I
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second that.
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Would
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you accept if offered. Yes. Okay.
[00:03:42] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice
Chairman Dobrin, sorry. The appropriate procedure would be to see if there are any other nominations.
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Yes. Thank you.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
[00:04:01] Speaker 8
I just would like to make sure everybody understands. I looked into it and I guess time does fly. I've been on this board for almost nine years. And with the ‸ new ordinance ‸ in effect, I can only serve until I have to be removed in November. So I assume that I would just, my last meeting would be in October. So I'm going to chair about five meetings. So
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[00:04:29] Speaker 8
Just understand that you're going to have to replace me. Earlier than what you would normally. Yeah, that's understood.
[00:04:38] Speaker 5
Mr. Chair, if I may, it's my understanding with the ordinance though, that the council does have the discretion. Of reappointing a member. Even after they've served the, um, a lot of time. If no other qualified participant. Okay. Puts in an application.
[00:04:58] Speaker 1
Kristen, is that? We can verify that's the case.
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I
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can
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verify that.
[00:05:02] Speaker 1
Okay. So you may be blessed with another term.
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But
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it is a blessing.
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‸ Yeah, I understand, but we also have alternates that are waiting in line to get in there and we'll, I guess we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
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chair of the board. Say aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay.
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[00:05:28] Speaker 4
I'll make a motion for Al Washington.
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Okay.
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[00:05:35] Speaker 9
I've been on this board for about 15 years. Uh, spent a lot of time and it's getting to where when it's time to come down here for the meeting, I'm starting to wonder why. So, uh, I, I,
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refuse.
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[00:05:55] Speaker 5
So, Mr. Chair, I would like to make a motion to nominate, uh, Marilyn Green as vice chair.
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Okay. Do we have a second?
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Okay.
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We
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have a, uh, Marilyn, you would
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accept?
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Yes, I
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would.
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Okay.
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Okay. All in favor of Marilyn Green serving as vice chair. Say aye. Aye. ‸ Opposed?
[00:06:22] Speaker 4
No.
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Okay. Okay.
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That is democracy.
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‸ Yeah, don't go there.
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So, uh, okay. Uh, I guess with your permission, uh,
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at this point?
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Okay,
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let's
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switch
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seats.
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While you're switching chairs, I just want to say, uh, on behalf of the planning and zoning board staff, um, my second tour here in Cocoa, this has been a very nice board to serve. And Mr. Dobrin, you've always been a very pleasant chair, and you've always done a very good job. Cindy
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Yes. And, uh,
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really appreciated, uh, presenting to you and the way you've handled your board. So, a bunch of appreciation, sir. Thank you. Mr. Chair,
[00:07:53] Speaker 5
Mr. New Chair, I would like to also state that, uh, it's been a
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The time that I have been on the planning and zoning board. So, thank him for their service.
[00:08:05] Speaker 1
Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you.
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[00:08:18] Speaker 8
Um, I wasn't quite prepared. Um, I'd like to say that I'm going to do better with names because I haven't been the chair. I know I've worked with you all, so bear with me as we get through the procedural parts in case I make any mistakes. Feel free to step in if I do. Okay, so we're going to go ahead and move forward with the agenda.
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business that's on the agenda in the order that it is. Item 4B and 4C have been requested by the applicant of
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[00:08:56] Speaker 11
I'm sorry, to your next meeting, which is
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[00:09:05] Speaker 11
were so many attachments, but somewhere in there, there was a letter from the ModWash, uh, applicant requesting tabling to your May 4th agenda. So you can, if it's appropriate, uh, request tabling on both of those items to the May 4th agenda in one motion.
[00:09:22] Speaker 4
So move.
[00:09:24] Speaker 8
Um, we're going to, do we have any emails that we want written, uh, read into the, that, that relates to this item?
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Um,
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you did receive, and it is
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[00:09:41] Speaker 11
However, we are not discussing that item tonight. It will be brought back to your May 4th meeting. And at that time you can discuss that or it is at the board's pleasure.
[00:09:51] Speaker 8
Okay. So we're looking to just, uh, table these.
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It is the applicant's request to table these items to the next
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meeting.
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Is
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it appropriate to open it to ‸ public or are we just going to table like we had in the past?
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Um, I believe in the past that the board has allowed a public comment on the motion to postpone. I believe we did at the last meeting.
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Okay.
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‸ There's anybody who'd like to come up and speak on tabling this item.
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‸ Good evening. My
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to read my address. That's right.
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Um, thank you for allowing me to make comment.
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So I appreciate that. And I would like to have it, uh, read into the record and I'm willing to do that myself on this item for the car wash. So the statement that I made that I would like to present to the board is, is that the current future land use for this project is mixed use. And which would be a more desirable use for this very visible location. The commercial use of a car wash does not appear to add a long term enhancement to this location. And
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I support retaining the mixed use future zoning and denying the pending rezoning request. While the agenda item was updated to table. The applicant submitted a letter indicating it will be moved to the May 4th meeting. So it is still
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I recommend the planning and zoning board not approve the proposed rezoning due to the proposed use not appropriate for the gateway and entry location. And inconsistent with the mixed use planning for the entire corridor region, which is in light purple on the future use plan.
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the future use. So I address the future use. And then for current use, I recommend that the planning and zoning board not approve the proposed rezoning. Due to the proposed use not appropriate for the gateway entry location.
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that there is a community meeting, there was a community meeting that was canceled. I think that the community should be able to hear about it. And this is really a central location. I mean, how many times a week do we stop at that ‸ intersection? So ‸ I think it's definitely worth ‸ further review before allowing a car wash to go at that location.
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of that intersection. And my hope is, is that we, we grow that area and we make it more of a, of a gateway to our community. Thank you for hearing my comment. And thank you for your service, chairman and vice chairman. Appreciate your service.
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your name and address please.
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The lot that's allocated for the project location that's currently displayed. That is for the hotel unit, not the car wash. Correct. Okay. And the car wash is located at 520 and highway one. Okay.
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to the board.
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in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed? Motion carries. All right. Thank you.
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So the main event.
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Tonight you are here to consider the large scale site plan for the 603 Brevard Avenue property. The subject property is comprised of three parcels as you can see on the location map that you see above.
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as the old city hall site. This project is
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rooftop bar architecturally integrated with a multi-level parking garage in central Cocoa Village. I don't want to launch into all the details of the project just yet, but I do want to go over the evolution of the timeline of this project and kind of how this all came about to give you a little bit of history. This has been very protracted and I intend to be eloquent, but brief. ‸ So the development, there are two different types of development agreements on this property. ‸ The reason why is because this property is partially owned by the Cocoa Community Redevelopment Agency.
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of 603 Brevard Avenue, tax parcels two and three. And there's a third parcel that's owned by a separate entity. The CRA acquired this property for the purposes of redevelopment under the Redevelopment Act in 1969. And
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for proposals soliciting interested parties to redevelop a portion of subject property. ‸ In 2020, the CRA and the developer entered into an amended restated development agreement, which has been attached to your package, which established the development schedule and time periods, which is Siri property would be ex
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mixed use hotel project. So on December 10th of 2020, the city council approved another development
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development agreement got into the nitty gritty of the site plan.
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site plan, which are the things that we had to go through and examine specifically for the approval tonight of the site plan for your consideration.
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the hotel, the developer at his expense was
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approximately an 87,000 square foot hotel, a mixed use hotel project with public access to retail space fronting down Brevard on the first floor and a parking garage. After examining the site plan, I can tell you that that is what the developer has provided us. It is a seven story hotel with 107 rooms with an eight story rooftop bar. The development agreement also says that the project at a minimum shall consist of at least 100 hotel rooms with no more than 112. As I said, it's 107 rooms with ‸ ancillary meeting space, hotel office ‸ space, a retail shop, breakfast area and lounge for the hotel, kitchen, swimming pool and a rooftop bar and lounge. The public access for the retail space, which is to be distinct from the hotel shop, consists of a minimum of 3600 square feet with pedestrian access from
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onto Brevard Avenue. That is again what they provided us in their site plan. And again, in their conceptual architectures that they provided. Again, the development agreement was very, very clear to provide that the parking garage shall be incorporated into the hotel building on floors one through four. And it is, as you can see in the conceptual, there is no parking garage visible, but it is incorporated in floors one through four. 100 parking spaces in the
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for public use without charge or fee to the public. They have reserved that. That is very clear in the site plan is both delineated in the tables. We have checked the architectures. It is there. The developer shall specifically be required to develop a project and incorporate all amenities.
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There's a rooftop bar. There are the ancillary retail shops. They're
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And they are there. The conceptual plan referred to here and in these documents was very specific and
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was very specific and everything that has been submitted up to this point is substantially in compliance with that conceptual plan.
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developer has the obligation to submit and, according to the development agreement, attain the city's approval of the formal site plan and
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plans consistent with the conceptual development plan and all material aspects in compliance with city code. This is why you are here and why you are involved because this requires the planning and zoning board to approve this plan. This is right in the development agreement.
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this. So other aspects of the building facade roof lines, color scheme, architectural features depicted on the building, which you can see again here in the conceptual, may have to be adjusted during the city's formal review and approval procedures to satisfy the requirements of city code. All elements included in the development agreement.
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There are also in accordance with the development agreement project enhancements that had to be checked for the site plan. Again, those are the 100 parking spaces that were required to be available for the public.
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So prior to the issues of every certificate of occupancy, the developer is supposed to deliver to the city a written perpetual covenant in
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to the city attorney. Reserving the parking spaces for the benefit of and use of the public in perpetuity and without charge or fee unless the city imposes such a charge or fee for municipal purposes.
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Further. And this is depicted in the site plan. The developer
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the entire length of the project frontage, including all travel lanes and shoulders. On both sides
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is. Meets the development agreement requirements. Again, the developer should install a total of 14 parallel on street parking spaces and page
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Another element of the project enhancement is prior to the developer getting the certificate of occupancy and proceeding there.
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to be provided to the city, especially for those sidewalks.
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I know it's hard to describe, but there's some access easements that we're doing so that. There's a parking lot provided. That's open and we have an access easement in the drive aisle. We provided special things like that. There's been no detail not provided for the city to make sure that all of the infrastructure and all utilities constructed on the property.
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able to service and we have all the access. Everything has been thought out very well and staff has been very involved and is very at this point satisfied.
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cable, phone, fiber, optics, natural gas and other similar kinds of utilities. The property are to be constructed underground. The project should also incorporate the use of energy efficient lighting system, insulation, energy star rated windows, low flow water fixtures,
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heat pumps and energy efficient HVAC systems. ‸ So those are the enhancements provided with the project. Now, with any project enhancements, there's always some things that go along with the project that in exchange for significant
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enhancements, you approve variances and waivers for ‸ project of this size. There are very few of those approved for this project and those are listed and there are five of those. One of those was the maximum building front out for the three blocks that you see here.
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They had the waiver to be able to go up to 90%. They actually could go up to 90%. They
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78%. There's a vacation of factory street. We allowed them to have a waiver to that.
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Maximum Side Street setback. We gave them a setback to that, which is very common for the village in this area. Maximum Side Street separate from John Guerin Lane of 10 feet.
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That's going to be met due to the fact that John Guerin has to be reconstructed. So many of these things are going to go away.
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The definition of off-street parking shall be relaxed to include rectangular parking areas measured 9 by 18. Most of their plans showed that they exceeded the 18.
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for the site plan requirements. So those are the big heavy lifting items. The majority of these items in the development agreement have been met and satisfied with the review of the site plan that they have turned in. So the rest of the items that we have, I just want to go over a couple things with you.
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the building height, the building height for this property was specially approved.
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When the project came in, we recognized that when we put out the RFP,
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were many conceptuals and renderings shown across the village with different height elevations, you know, examples. It was determined that an effective and ‸ maximum ‸ height for large scale commercial buildings in the village, particularly in this area would be able to go up to 104. But this height of this building is not going to exceed a maximum of 85 feet. And we can have the engineer confirm that for us.
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have some questions there. And I do want to hit on some
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plan policies, but I do want to get the engineer a little talk. But I did want to give you the evolution of the development agreement, how this has been developed as a CRA property, that it went out originally as a request for proposal specifically for a hotel.
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[00:28:16] Speaker 14 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Yeah, hi, good evening.
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We are the engineers on this project. We were brought in sometime around the middle of last year to get this thing to design.
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Before you go any further, I need to swear you in. Okay. Since you're going to be talking about the item.
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Okay.
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I do. Okay, thank you. Sorry to interrupt.
[00:28:39] Speaker 14
Thank you. It's not often I get sworn in at a meeting, usually only if I'm going to be an expert testimony, but it's always different everywhere we go. Right.
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Every downtown, ‸ successful downtown should have a hotel. So, you know, being from this area,
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was born and raised in this area.
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awful lot, you know, over the years, with family and friends to really enjoy what you have going on here. You know, it's one of the few downtowns that really is someplace where you can spend some time and do some shopping, get something to eat, and now you're going to have a place to stay, which is pretty exciting.
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and it's been very successful. It's gone very well, and the rooftop bar is just amazing. So,
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because I know when you go up there and you get to see the river,
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can have something to eat and something to drink, it's really just ‸ something that makes it downtown downtown. So, we're really happy to be part of this. We worked very diligently with staff in a very short period of time to bring this to you successfully. I'm sure if there's any little things that we need to work out, we will, but we think we've met all the conditions. We met all the intent of the developers agreement and all the agreements that were made with the city. I don't know what kind of details you really want to know about, but I think Cindy covered most of them. I don't really want to belabor that. It really would answer any questions. ‸ The only thing I really thought I would add is ‸ this kind of completes some pedestrian connections,
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that really you guys don't have.
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to match what you guys have already started. We're going to put in ‸ the paver sidewalks to match your motif and the theme that you've already started here.
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here. She also did mention about everything going underground was
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So, you know, I could talk to
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about drainage and utilities and all engineering boring stuff if you want to hear it. So I'll just let you ask those questions and let you know that also the architect is here. So if you have any building questions, you know, we'd be happy to answer those as well.
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Oh, Mr. Chair, I apologize. Before the board gets into questions, I do think Mr. Greenwood may have something ‸ to say.
[00:31:33] Speaker 4
Yes, because of my involvement with the hotel project that I've been working on it since its inception over three or four years ago, I need to recuse myself and I need to go and move into the audience. But there is by doing that, I'm able to provide information when I have an opportunity to go to the register as far as how the vote went yesterday at the emergency CRA board meeting. And there's a couple of other questions I have about the project as well. Thank you.
[00:32:08] Speaker 3
I have just a couple questions regarding parking ‸ like to revisit that a little bit.
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sure I'm on the same page with you. I understand that technically the hotel is required to have 182 spaces. And basically there's a total of 295 spaces where I'm going with this is there's
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So
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How is
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developer going to control the use as well as the 13 additional spaces?
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So I don't I'm I'm not sure how the security inside is going to work. I know that like in Melby that it's open so anybody can come in there and park.
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assume that's the way it's going to be here. And even though we
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and Brevard.
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So ‸ we technically gained one space on the street and then we're going to have the parking in the parking garage.
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Okay,
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so the way I have is 102 spaces required by the hotel and we have 297 total.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Question. Another question I have on this is just, you know, when you have conference rooms and you have different parties that are using the facilities there.
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again, how is the parking controlled?
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those conferences are people that are they stay at the hotel to go to the conference.
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A lot of people drive to.
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yeah, sometimes you'll have a conference and you get people from, you know, somebody locally might rent it for whatever. Yeah, and I know it kind of works itself out because sometimes when those are happening, the people aren't really there. They're gone.
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doing what they're supposed to do. So, and I don't even know what the occupancy level is going to be expected for this because it's never really full all the time when something like that happens. But I mean, it could, I think that's, I would think that you'd want to attract those conferences to this area so they can enjoy, you know, the downtown area of the shops and the restaurants and the bars that you do have. You know, in any downtown parking is always, you know, an issue when
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So, you know, we, we have met the requirements. Obviously, you can't, you
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you don't want to park.
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to get on Christmas Day. You know, there's always going to be a peak time where you're going to have more parking. They're going to need more parking than they have. You know, obviously you have, you know, on street parking throughout the downtown. So, you know, we meet the requirement of the, of the code and what we think we need. Will there be ‸ times that we might have need more parking than we provide? It's possible.
[00:35:46] Speaker 3
All right, Mr Brown, do you have anything to say regarding the, I guess, control of use? Or is it just catch as catch can?
[00:36:01] Speaker 15
Well, we've been working with this.
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I'm sorry. Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth to help you God? I do. Thank you. Go ahead.
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parking area that would would be able to handle you know excess traffic I think that
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required to be for the actual number of rooms. So the rest of that facility is pretty much open to the public to park in. ‸ It's not, you know, only those only those rooms, the number of rooms have, you know, available parking for, you know, like reserved parking because you have a room. Other than that,
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drive in and park wherever they may but I think that the answer is going to be that at some point in time we'll have to have, not just for ‸ hotel I mean the city has its problem not just the hotel we need to develop some off-site parking for a lot of the places as well as the hotel.
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parking on specific areas that we would go in and pave and use that for parking for excess customers.
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I just wanted to explain the parking layout and do I need to be sworn in?
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truth, so help you God?
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Yes, I do.
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Thank you very much.
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So
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When you come into a lobby of the hotel, you'll go up to the third floor. There will be no stop on the second and the first floor of the parking garage because that
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be public. There's a separate elevator that will bring people from the first floor to the second floor, second floor down to the first floor. So that'll be covered by signage. So the first level parking, second level will be public and that'll have 100 parking spaces. From there up will be hotel and that'll be controlled by the elevators that we have for the hotel. The hotel elevators will go up to the third floor, and then there's going
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public parking ‸ that
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the same thing with the ‸ stairwells.
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floors?
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Yeah, what will happen is people that come to the hotel that want to go up to the room levels, ‸ there will be three elevators
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is. So it'll be separate. So they'll go right up to the
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Okay. And is there going to be a special access so that way we can differentiate between public parking and the hotel parking?
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card and then you can go to the third floor by accessing your key card only. Because if you go to, I know many, many years ago when Cocoa Beach Surf Shop opened up their parking garage,
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but you can access all the floors and their security have to go through and make sure that you're parking correctly. I think that's what we're trying to make sure how
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and then differentiate them from the hotel as well.
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Or is
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just going to be first and second floor and then third and fourth, they're just differentiated by elevators inside the hotel room?
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so that there'll be no stop there. They'll
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keep the separation. If I'm from,
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from inside the hotel, yes. I'm asking, I'm asking how you're going to keep the differentiation while in the parking garage. If I, if I, if I go there and I'm not staying at the hotel,
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Okay. Right. The, um, the, the three hotel, uh,
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space. So
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have no access right there. You, you'll go right up to the third level. Okay.
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asking, I'm asking if there's going to be a, a gate to stop the public access from accessing the third and fourth floors via the parking garage. There,
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there will be, ‸ there'll be signage and it'll be, it'll be marked off that this public parking further up is hotel parking. Okay. So it'll be done by signage and possibly some gates. Okay.
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You can tell that parking's a hot button issue here in Cocoa Village. We appreciate your follow through on this.
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complete. We were very happy to see that.
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Thank you.
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I did want to add one thing and I did ask ‸ Jack, I can't confirm this, but I think what I'm understanding is the existing parking lot now has about
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more spaces than you have currently. So I think that's pretty good bonus, right?
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You just threw me, but I'll go with it.
[00:43:00] Speaker 14 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Well, on the property now ‸ that we're going to build on, I think we're getting you got about 80 spaces that you have existing. So we're giving you a hundred public spaces on that same property. So you're getting 20 extra additional spaces that you don't have now.
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And that's
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a rooftop bar. So that plus or minus a few spaces. So you are gaining spaces overall.
[00:43:24] Speaker 8
Do we have anything else from the board before I open to the public?
[00:43:27] Speaker 6
Uh, I just have one more. Um,
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a, uh,
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concern with the pool for drainage issues. Um, I was able to read through a little bit of it. It's not here. Um,
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last page. The last item on the page. Number five.
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Right. Okay.
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So, and then after it's dechlorinated, it's
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planned to enter the storm drain system of Cocoa village.
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[00:44:14] Speaker 14
I knew that was a last minute thing that we did, but I believe that we are taking it to the underground system in our parking lot.
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Okay. So you, so the, the hotel will have a
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separate system. Yeah, we have an underground, uh, exfiltration system under the parking, um, to the south where we have the outside parking. Okay. That is all underground, uh, exfiltration. So that connection will go there.
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Okay. I just want to make sure because if you're going to, um, empty out a pool right before a storm, it might back up some storm
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Is the board good? Good. Yeah. All right. I'm going to open up to the public. I have one part up here.
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[00:45:20] Speaker 12
Good evening.
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My address is [address]. And I wanted to make a comment about the hotel.
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I feel like as a resident, I have concerns about the comments that have been made about having a high rise structure in the middle of a low rise village. And at the same time, there was a lot of discourse that happened a few years ago. So I want to respect that and say that, you know, that was decided at that time. But I do have a comment about the process itself and the access to the information about the project. So I would like to read a portion of my statement pertaining to the hotel itself. So regarding the agenda item, I have been checking the city website and requesting agenda information from the city starting last Friday.
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and I attached that short agenda. The city website was updated with the current agenda with the site plan and the supporting materials less than 48 hours prior to the meeting. Over 300 pages of documentation has recently been uploaded to the city website. And that's available for anybody who's listening who doesn't know that there's agenda information placed on the city website. And there are hyperlinks within that that are very helpful for the public to access the supporting documentation. There is inadequate time for public review of meeting agenda documentation prior to today's meeting. There's a substantial amount of information that was just uploaded. ‸ While the planning and zoning board stated in December, they were eager to approve this project. Backup information was not made available to the public and at the, as of this date with adequate time for review prior to today's meeting.
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So I want to express that I think that the public should have more time to review all of the documentation. ‸ And I'd like to add to what my email statement was, was the answer to, well, then what might someone recommend? And this is what would have helped me. What would have helped me is if the documentation had been uploaded seven days prior.
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following this.
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And I would appreciate if there were alerts.
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types of alerts of alerts that could be ‸ helpful. One is, is the city does have alerts for certain topics, topical alerts, and to follow the planning and zoning. It would be nice if citizens could sign up for an alert system so that I could be alerted exactly when the information has been posted. And then the second thing that would have helped me is, is the Facebook
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The city does a lot with their Facebook page and they could have easily said the background information for the hotel project has been uploaded and can be reviewed at the city website.
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public to have adequate time to review the information, to reach out if we have questions. To board members or to place our comments and to be adequately prepared for the meeting.
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the documentation itself for that reason. So my statement pertains to the encouragement that materials are made are provided in advance of the meeting. Well, in advance of the meeting, and that I feel it's premature to approve it with that reasonable request for public accommodation.
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[00:49:12] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I'm not disagreeing with the speaker here tonight. There was actually 388 pages, but five of them were four pages or less. So two of them were duplicates. One was the conceptual plan and then there was the revised conceptual plan. And then there was an 88 page traffic study, which was very detailed and very lengthy. So I don't know how much of the public would have the interest to sit there and read through an 88 page study done on traffic for this particular project.
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was water, there was stormwater, there was landscape plan, there's ‸ civil, there's architectural. And while the public might not read through 88 pages,
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public that would have valued that time.
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But I feel like this, the documents were uploaded as of yesterday, all of them.
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and review them all.
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And thank you for clarifying that and we would just disagree that that's adequate time. So
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I
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appreciate the board hearing my comment.
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Mr. Chair, I just want to
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I just want to make sure that the applicant has been given a copy of that and they're able to respond to anything in there. So I think. Okay, thank you, Cindy.
[00:51:00] Speaker 16 (introduced as “Donna Kettner” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Good evening. My name is Donna Kettner.
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live at [address]. I've had my business in Cocoa Village for 40 years. I came here believing in the downtown to be something fabulous for ‸ what its foundation started as. When I first came here, I said, wow, this is a jewel. Why hasn't anybody tapped into it? We are on the waterfront where there's not a yacht from South Hampton that
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Caribbean. I can tell you my experience of surviving because when I came here, it was it was pretty sad. I lived in the village. I've been living in the village for. As long as I've had my business here, which is 40 years. And there was a time that I can go back and tell you about the prostitution and the drugs and all of that. We've come a long way. I've invested my money and ‸ my hard work in this downtown. I've established a clientele. I'm shaking because I care about the downtown. That lot is where our old city hall used to stand. And I am all for development, but it is going to be a skyscraper in a tiny little village. You're going to little by little chisel it away so it's just like any other place. Do you want to be like just any other place or do you want to be unique? Do you want to make people stop here and and buy here and live here? Well, you're going to attract a transient base of people. And I was in tourism. I was a social director for cruise ships. So I know a little bit about tourism as well as running a business for 40 years.
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that
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So no, I'm not thrilled
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about a skyscraper.
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I live in a historical home that was built in 1920 by ‸ one of the founders of Coco. And it was the Ford family. You know, you say you're giving us parking. Are you? We have 80 spaces. You're giving us how many more? And is there going to be security? And what about the garbage and the dumpsters and the crime that goes on when there's not security in a parking garage at night? You need security right now in the village. There was vandalism outside my store two weeks ago. There's been crime that you don't hear about. I live here. I walk those those cobblestone streets and I love it here. And I have cared and taken care of the properties that I've owned in this village. And I know you all think that this is the right way to go, but you could do a four story building there and make it a five star. If you have the vision. I don't want to be a Walmart.
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I have customers from all over this country that come to me year after year after year because I am providing a service and a product that they can't get anywhere else. So it takes me a lot to come up because it's upsetting to me that people do not have the vision to see what a charming, beautiful downtown we have. I care about what happens down here. I want growth. I want people to be able to work, live and be prosperous. These people aren't going to be living in this village like me and all my neighbors. A lot of those people that bought condos, they came to me first because they came off their boats and I promoted this downtown.
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You can you can go down to Vero Beach. You can go anywhere. And yes, there are hotels, but does it have to be a big square box that's going to take up every inch?
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Those are things that are important. Nature, trees, sunsets, sunrises. There's a balance to our lives.
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I'm like, I hate to even be here because it's it's sad to me. It really is because it could be so ‸ much better. I hope everybody here cares and really thinks out about the garbage dumpsters, about the waste, about the security. How many people are going to stay at that hotel, leave their car there all week? Because a lot of the hotels in Cocoa Beach, you can stay in their hotel and leave your car there for a week while you're cruising.
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downtown? Think about it long and hard, really and truly. What are we gaining? How many parking spaces are we gaining? Biggest complaint every single day from my customers? There's no parking. When are we as a community going to to address that ‸ there's no parking in this downtown? We're going to allow a hotel before a parking garage and I will probably be dead and gone. And I'm sure maybe you would like me to be dead and gone. But for 40 years I've cared about this downtown. I have swept the streets. I have pressure washed them. I don't know what else to say. I just hope that you just don't slam dunk everything and you don't take other options. That was the city of Cocoa where our city hall stood. And we're giving it away. They're not giving us anything.
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Fat zero. I'm sorry. I'm upset.
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Thank you. Ella? Thank you.
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Do I
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Alex Greenwood, Brevard Avenue, Cocoa, Florida.
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truth to help you
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All the main points I wanted to share
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already been stated, but there's a couple of points that I wanted to bring up that hadn't been brought up. This has been an ongoing thing that everybody's familiar with for years. And this project has been looked at so scrutinizingly that everything has been brought for discussion.
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run with it. We had staff do tremendous amount of work for this project.
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been looked into. Nothing has not been looked into. Board member Jerry Blanco said that very clearly about all the pages that were available for the staff and the public meetings that we had to make a good decision.
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It's not broke. We're making it better. Now, some of the statements that we don't need a skyscraper. I don't know where they're getting a skyscraper from.
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Does the public know the height of this building? We're talking a floor or two more than the hotel. ‸ Seriously, think about it. The tallest structure we have is a condominium on the water. I think it's 12 stories. So it's not a skyscraper. And if you saw the elevation views, it is tiered like a wedding cake. It's not one big wall going up. It's been tiered to cut down. There's the picture. It's been tiered to cut down on that image when you walk through here. The other thing that we have to our advantage is the oak trees. And the oak trees, you don't really notice the hotel until you're almost on it. And that's another thing I wanted to bring up. For the record, and I don't know who might be able to offer it from the group from the hotel, but
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at. And I was told several times during the presentation of the meetings, I hope those trees are going to stay. They are? Thank God. They've been here a lot older than us. As far as the amount of time that I've been here, I've also been here for 40 years.
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good place to go to Cocoa Village. There were robberies. Everything was boarded up. The windows was enclosed with plywood. It was not a good place. So
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I'm showing my age now. I was the only one on the board to see about a steering committee for the downtown Cocoa Village area to see if we could have it recognized as a blighted area because of the things I mentioned a few seconds ago. And because
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the council at the time, I was asked to go and make the request and presentation to the Brevard County commissioners and we did. So that's when we created the downtown Cocoa Village CRA group because this was the area designated as blighted area. What that meant was and we had no idea that it was going to be as successful as it became.
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built the percentage of taxes since we got approved for that your property taxes did not go any longer to the Brevard County commission Brevard County.
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Those taxes now stayed with us to help put in lighting landscaping to helping enhance people to come here. And that's about the time where a lot of people started coming in here to open their businesses. One of them I remember vividly was the Bath College with Jan Stewart who's passed away by now since then. But the thing is is that she was one of the first people that moved from the mall and decided to locate in the village. So my point is the the questions and the concerns that are being brought up now. It's a little late. It's already been discussed.
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upside down sideways. We're at the point now that we need to go ahead and move on with this project. There's a tremendous amount of money that's already been invested in this and time and I feel that this would be an enhancement. The code has been watched at every single point.
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I live and walk through here.
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We do have codes for noise if it's too loud or things like that. I mean, this is not going to be something that's going to hurt the downtown area is going to enhance it. And because of the condos that we have and all that ‸ the amount of money that this downtown area makes and a lot of people don't realize that they think the public that we get the money from the taxes that are
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that decided to locate here.
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It's not broke. It doesn't need to be fixed. We need to continue the momentum of what we have, which is a class act. And if all
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got to do is compare it to Melbourne, do so. You worried about high rises? Look at the number of buildings they have there. That's huge.
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And they're not on the water. We are. As far as the height of the hotel on the fourth floor that was mentioned earlier, you do not have water view.
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And when you do have water view, that's where you can charge the higher prices. You don't want to cause it to fail. This is another plus factor of charging the rates that are normally higher because you're on the water. And we're running out of land for that. So that's another reason that I think the hotel will become very successful. Thank you for letting me speak.
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Coventry of Cocoa. And my concern is primarily the precedent. I attended a meeting, an exploratory meeting, I'll call it on March 10th, regarding
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at 430 Brevard where the old bank building is now. And I was very shaken up by that proposal. I'm a recent resident here, but I've been coming here visiting family for years. And I've been enchanted by the small town historic feel of the village. My friends come and visit and they say, and I'm, by the way, I was 40 years on Cape Cod. I'm no stranger to villages. And
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is like Cape Cod. Cape Cod has height restrictions. Cape Cod has very tight zoning within ‸ its villages. If things want to be built, they're built outside the villages. So when I heard that word precedent on March 10th, my hair stood up and I went, well, yes, there is precedent in the high rises that have been built around the village. But there's also precedent in Manhattan for high rises around Central Park.
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And I regard this village as a treasure aesthetically. I think whenever any charming historic place starts to incorporate modern, tall architecture,
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it's in trouble.
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Now, having said that, I'm really not opposed to this particular project because I think it is far ‸ enough away from
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which if you will, which is
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that it can still probably fit into what I consider the aesthetic of this town. It was brought up earlier. Well, every place that is successful has a hotel. Guess what? We had hotels here and they were beautiful. And all you have to do is go back and look at photographs of
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at the beautiful hotels right on the water. What are they now? They're 12 story high rises on the sites of those hotels. So I look at this and I say, okay, a seven story hotel, but eventually will it just be another 20 story high rise? Because precedent has been set. I'm very ‸ concerned about the
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being set for the middle of town. Several doors over from
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if you will, sitting and having a cup of coffee at the cafe and looking at a seven story building. That to me is not charming. That to me is not historic. And that to me does the same thing that happened on Cape Cod, where the very reasons why people came to
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those small villages started disappearing. And the very reason that people are drawn here is, in my opinion, needs to stay intact in some vision, as was said earlier, some vision of a future that says, okay, well, we're going to move the line in the sand and we're going to allow a seven story hotel, which again, I'm not opposed to. But where do we stop? But where
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does that line in the sand ‸ stop? And we say, that's enough. We're destroying ourselves. We're destroying the very reason that tourists want to come here and want to remain here and also want to give up
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and move here. Thank you.
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[01:09:22] Speaker 15
I don't like to do this, because most people think I talk too much. But I can't really sit by and not respond to a few of these things. So anyway, my name is Jack Brown, by the way, and I'm the developer of the hotel. Some of the things that have been said are very, very correct. First of all, there are some languages in the lodging industry that most of you probably aren't familiar with and probably don't care about, but they have something to do with the overall industry and maybe a couple of things that you might like to know. But first of all, a comment was made that this is a high rise and it is not a high rise. Today, if you go to build a hotel and you go to a franchisor, you ask them about what you want to build, whatever it is, and if you want it to be franchised, which nobody wants to build an unfranchised hotel unless they're crazy, you can't build a hotel that's not four stories because that's their prototype. So you're at four stories and going up. So at the very least, we are no more than a mid-rise. And that's stretching it. High rises start like 20, 30 stories and go up to 100 and some stories. So we're not even talking about high rise hotels here. I consider us being on the periphery and not even in the village. So I don't see what we are damaging in the way of the beautiful downtown area, which I think is beautiful too. I'm here. I mean, I love it here. My wife is crazy about it. Actually,
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but I'm happy. So, you know, I just don't see where we're entering the overall village in its makeup, its physical makeup and its cosmetic makeup.
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That building is not a massive square hunk of a building. That is a boutique hotel that the city wanted. We went out of our way to make it the way that they wanted it.
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Let us use the Cocoa village name in the name of the hotel.
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We did that on purpose. They let us use our prototype.
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It's not their prototype.
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to build where the old bank is, but that's not what we're building. We're protecting like Alex said. He's absolutely right. He was right on today. We're saving the trees. We're redoing the roads. You know, first they were going to make them one way streets. Then they came back and wanted to make them two way streets. So we made them two way streets again. That means move the building back a little bit and encroach on the back lot that we're going to use later on, hopefully for an expansion of the hotel or some mixed juice, at least into the hotel. ‸ But anyway, I wanted to add a few things that I thought were important. And one last thing that nobody seems to care about and some of these people that have shops and things, we're going to add to this community, someone in
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neighborhood of 150 to 170 people a night. They're going to be staying in these hotel rooms and
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I don't understand why all these shops close at five o'clock. They're not open on Monday. They're not open on Tuesday. And I keep hearing people say that these guys are struggling with their shops. ‸ I would think they'd be wanting to love me up.
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in this, but there's a couple of comments that I need to make.
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time to review
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in the eye of the beholder. I personally reviewed all the documents. I felt that I had adequate time. You know, your mileage may vary, but adequate is not a fixed thing. So that's subject to discussion. But I would
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right on point. And that is that we are not here tonight to relitigate things that have been decided ‸ in the past.
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The problems that have been brought up by some of the folks in the audience about whether it's too high, whether it's the right project, this or that,
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many years. And so what we are looking at is what we have to deal with tonight. With due respect to the lady from Cape Cod, whose name I didn't get, but go 508.
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[01:14:50] Speaker 18
That's not what we're here to talk about. It's a very good discussion, but it's not appropriate for hearing for tonight. So I'll just be presumptuous and I will remind the board that the reason we're here tonight is for you to review the submission that was made in accordance with the developer's agreement
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determine whether the submission is sufficient. Nothing else. That's the only question that's before you tonight. So I urge you to ignore the distractions and focus on whether the presentation that was made tells you that the submission is sufficient under the rules that were set forth.
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should probably comment that Mr. Green is my husband and I share the sentiments he expressed tonight.
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[01:15:59] Speaker 13
No. Okay. I just have one basic question as a business owner here in the village and I agree. One of the things that I have adored about this village and that drew us here to purchase a business and start running it just over three
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village feel and the look and the vibe. And there's not a Starbucks on every corner. There's not a
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There's unique industrial entrepreneurs and artists and people who have come in and
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make our community vibrant. So it may not necessarily have anything to do with what's being weighed on and decided upon this evening. But my hope is that the developers are understanding of the nature of our village from a retail perspective. And I asked the same question at the other meeting about the other building that's not part of tonight. But my only concern is please God don't bring in Walmart or
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that you're putting in there. Let's keep it a village. Thank you.
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Hello. My name is
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and I live right down the road here.
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I need to swear in?
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Do you swear to tell the truth,
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whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
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I do.
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I also own a building directly across
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And my only complaint is it's not big enough. So I wanted to see kind of a grand hotel. And this ‸ will do. This is good. But I'm excited for the development. ‸ I think it's going to revitalize the south end of the Cocoa Village area. I'll keep my comments brief. But I'm all for it as a business owner. And I know a lot of businesses are. So thank you very much.
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Anybody else like to speak? All right. With that, I'll be closing the public portion and open it up to the board. It
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a pleasure.
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Mr. Chair, sorry. So the applicant and staff do have an opportunity for rebuttal. I just want to make sure that's supported.
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Let's go ahead and.
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Yeah.
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I don't really have a whole lot to add. All I
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of people just like that last speaker that came up that have retail businesses in the downtown area that just was so excited that this is going to bring prosperity to their business. So I'm hoping that's what's going to happen here as well. ‸ I believe it will. And it is at that southwest corner of the village. So I hope everybody's looking towards the water. So this won't get in their way as far as the visual, but it will bring, I think, nothing but good, good things for the village. So I don't really want to dispute what anybody else said. I just think it's a good thing for the city. And what the last ‸ gentleman said, I think that we've met all the technical requirements of what we're talking about today too,
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well.
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There were some corrections that I'd like to make in the report and just a couple of clarifications.
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so I'll just make a couple corrections for your just to correct the record. The future land use floor error ratio I'm sorry future land use comprehensive
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there's the maximum of floor
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ratio of 2.5 that cannot be exceeded in this area due to the zoning classification, its location of it being in the central business district and the location of the property I'm sorry. Okay so also the sixth floor square footage is incorrectly it should it says 16,124 ‸ should actually say 19,124 this is a typo And then therefore that
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which instead of the calculation for floor error ratio reading as 1.74 is actually 1.79 this is still consistent with the mixed use land policy land use policies it doesn't change anything about the application I just wanted to correct that for the record also we were talking about retail space I just wanted to let everybody know that the retail space on the site plan the total retail space which is fronting on Brevard Avenue which is required as part ‸ of the development agreement I'm not sure if anyone had the ability or took the time to do a total
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square footage the maximum square footage and it's divided among um four retail units the front on Brevard
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smallest is 690 square feet, and each one is, uh the other three are about 1200 square feet, so they're appropriately sized for the village. And then there are two other retail that, um front on Factory Street, one is 1300 square feet, and one is 546 square feet.
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I do not anticipate any of that uh and again the meeting space is uh uh
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with a maximum of 331 people and a
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lounge just outside that which
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very boutique uh oriented not a very large gathering of people just wanted to clarify that also there
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areas uh clean, uh signs. uh Is it going to be clear that they're public parking or hotel parking? Are we concerned about whether or not um someone is going to park their car and then go on a cruise? um
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is responsible for maintaining the public parking. And we, the city, have reserved the ability to maintain signage and to make sure that that is very, very clear. So that is reserved in ‸ development agreement, probably very late in ‸ development agreement language probably it's in there
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that going forward and with that I'll stop talking you have ‸ recommendation in front of you um And again, uh we're very proud of this project. It's been a very uh blood, sweat, and tears for everyone. and uh if you have any questions I'll be glad to answer
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is
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it too early to hope that we have possible uh interest in the tendencies already as far as the hotel? so
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They're asking about potential tenants in your retail units. Not
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just like to add I
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want to thank the staff for um putting all this together for us and it was very well done.
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us in a timely fashion. Appreciate it.
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‸ appreciate that very much.
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sorry before the vote I just want to clarify are you including the conditions that were also in the random in the report? ‸ Thank you. all
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right We have a motion and a second. Before
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for discussion.
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uh Just quickly before we vote, um just a few comments
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um There was a comment brought up about uh the amount of time being quote unquote adequate uh that were uploaded to the city
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and being uh available to the public. um I'm not going to go for or against, but uh I am just going to read something here from the general notice of information that we have here. um To see about giving comment here, you have to provide information at least 48 hours prior. That gives us and you know the city the amount of time they need to review ‸ the comments and make sure that they know that you're going to be presented. um I'd like to make a statement that I believe that at least 48 hours should be an adequate amount of time. um Again,
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one is, is I also share, um the fact that this hotel is definitely going to be a change. Do I know whether it's going to be a positive or negative change? I can't see the future.
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the proposed site that the hotel is going to,
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my mother has pictures of me crawling around as a baby on those floors. She, started there as a clerk did water department worked her way up. She still works for the city. um so I definitely understand the need for heritage, uh sorry for heritage and to keep it historic downtown
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village. um I'm hoping that the developers again, you know, the comments have been made. Keep that interest in mind. um and I can tell you right now that. Even though there are condos that are on the outside of the village and all of the, um taller buildings that are around here,
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when the condos went in. um I know I was very young, but, uh I like to keep the historic feel. I believe that this district does have an historic feel. um So with that, uh let's go ahead
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guess now's a good time to turn on my mic. That's
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for your agenda tonight. Oops.
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‸ meeting is still going.
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uh
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in order to cover these and not spend any more time in this area. But please, I wanted to uh remind you, because you're sort of new, not from the experience that you've done for years,
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here, and what it used to be on there, where there was open discussion area on the agenda, and also there was an area to discuss the tree, City USA for the cocoa. So
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We're not eliminating that. I apologize. Would you like... Is there anything that you'd like to bring
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that it's going to be on the agenda. It's not going to be eliminated. And
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I'll get with you again before the next meeting to make sure that's done. Thank you. Thank you
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you very much. And welcome new board members, and welcome new chair and vice chair. Thank you very much, everybody.
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that the one still from February,
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and I'm sorry ‸ someone is not... I will take care of that
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sent that in twice, so i I will follow up.
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All right, we have a motion.
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you.

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