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Attendance (the roll call)
Listed present when the roll was taken: Mike Mervis, Shan Lathem, Dick Bankhead, Cynthia Johnson, Kimberly Prosser, Joy Rutherford
(Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines; no independent membership list of this board is available to confirm that the roll is complete.)
Listed absent: Jennifer Riggs
Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Stockton Whitten (City Manager), Mike Blake (Mayor), JoAnna Zurinsky (Recording Secretary)
Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Bankhead, Johnson, Mervis, Prosser, Rutherford (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)
Adopted actions (1)
to amend the order of and approve the agenda of April 6, 2023 and to approve the minutes of January 12, 2023 (moved by Prosser, seconded by Lathem); PASSED 5-0; ayes: Mervis, Bankhead, Johnson, Prosser, Rutherford; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
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All right, let's call the meeting to order. First, let us rise and head to the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
Keep us focused in our mission. Let us help those who need our help and keep our eyes focused that sustainability will provide for them in the future. Amen.
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approve the agenda and the previous... Before you get there though, let me... We're going to let the guests go first. We didn't list that in that order. And so, recognizing that we have guests. And I apologize to my staff who's worked all day too. But we... We...
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Aye. Okay. I just... Some brief thoughts. We have a pretty full agenda tonight and some interesting guests. Thank you for being here. And then we're hopefully going to really get to the... To some discussion of the priorities. I hope we can focus on two or three major topics, which we can put on future agendas for discussion. We're not here to change the world.
much turf. And our job is to keep it current and to do what we can to raise awareness of what sustainability is. And to make sure that our home is on the right path, that our hometown, village, and that we keep things in perspective.
‸ So aside from the presentations, and I know you'll be succinct and brilliant, but let's remind... I remind everybody on the committee, as we're discussing things, let's try to stay on point and keep going. So we can be as productive as we can be in a small amount of time that's been allotted to us for the meetings.
that we can't break into subcommittees and other working groups without creating a mess in terms of having to staff it and public meetings and all kinds of things. So we've got to do our work one-on-one or in ‸ small meetings of lunch and breakfast or whatever, and then getting done as much as we can get done in the limited time we have in the meetings. So ‸ with that said, who's going first here?
do it real quick. We're going to do Ms. Stewart first. She and I, Rashad and I, were close friends, and she's continuing. She's got great plans for it, and she has some problems, et cetera, and I asked her to come and talk to us.
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Absolutely. I'd be happy to. ‸ I'm here for Cocoa High, and what I wanted to bring to you was just some information about the students that were serving at Cocoa High School and share some demographics with you, share some of the things that I thought would be pertinent to the conversations that you have around sustainability as a committee. So the first document that I'll have you look at is the infographic that you should all have. It has all the enrollment information. This
of our current enrollment by grade level. And it also gives you the demographic breakdowns so that you can see the populations of students that we're serving, along with some other information. So when you're looking at, ‸ and
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They are going to stay here after graduation. They will raise families here. And we want to do our best to produce productive citizens for postgraduate entry into career fields.
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2020. So 2021 would have been the first year that we brought back state assessments. Last year, we had a graduation rate of 66%, which was devastating to us as a school community. The reasons for that steep decline.
that they were going to attend adult ed. They never actually enrolled in adult ed or if they did, they didn't complete a high school diploma pathway there. GEDs do not count towards graduation rate. So if a student drops out of Cocoa High and goes to adult ed and earns a GED, that doesn't count as a positive percentage point for a graduation rate. We did have students that did that. And certainly GEDs do make them eligible for a lot of other opportunities. So while it's not a graduation rate indicator, it is still a positive path for a student. It does give them some career and even post-secondary schooling opportunities. So a lot of our effort this year has been put into increasing student performance on math and ELA tests. And a lot of the partnership between Elevate Brevard and Cocoa High has focused on that specifically. And I'll let Dr. Doakes speak to some of those efforts. One of the things that we have pushed very hard in the last couple of years is our CTE certifications. And I gave you an extra document that's related to that.
associated with it. I thought that would be particularly ‸ interesting to you because one, it lets you know what certifications students are earning. What certifications students are earning and the potential dollar influence that has at the school level.
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any businesses in the local community who can utilize a workforce with that background, with those certifications, we want to partner with them as much as possible. And again, Dr. Doakes with Elevate
very hard to help us find internship opportunities, to help us find guest speakers, people coming to campus and helping kids ‸ learn how they can apply what they're learning in classes into an immediate career opportunity right after high school.
I think about sustainability, the things that I think about partnering with the city on is one, my students desperately need access to food and housing. My free and reduced lunch population is 81% and climbing. We don't have this year's final numbers until the end of the year just because of enrollment throughout the year. And certainly I have had an increase in students in transition or homelessness. These are things that obviously play a huge impact on a student's ability to learn and be ready for learning when they come to school. I did want to point out too that the health and safety of our students is very critical. I know that that's one of the things that sustainability that you discuss and you look at. One conversation that I've recently had with the district and Brevard Health Alliance is the possibility of bringing a clinic similar ‸ to what
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Athletics is one thing that Coco High does really, really well. And it's one of the greatest ways that we can get students to buy into academics through athletics, ‸ because for a lot of our student athletes, it's a means to scholarships for college and post-secondary pursuits. Plus just the discipline that comes with being part of an athletics team is very important to our students and that extra connectedness to positive influences.
just know that from having conversations with students and seeing, just seeing some of the clearinghouse data that we get from colleges. Yeah, they're, they're not, they're coming, they're either going and then coming back or they're staying in Coco.
jump in. If they go to college or they do something post-secondary, the clearinghouse would have that data. But if they do nothing, then there's no way to track it.
But that's, that's a very, very critical statistic, I would say to you, because it has such a huge impact on the value of what, what the value is to the community.
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best guess, to follow the students and have a way to follow them is, is a, is a good metric to have. And the other thing I wanted to ask, how much say do you have as an individual in hiring the teachers?
I hire the people that, that apply for the positions. And so one of the challenges that we have faced is we have not nearly as many applicants as we have had in the past. We've had classrooms without teachers, the majority of the year. We have reading classes, unfortunately, that have had no teachers for most of the year since August. So
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the county. Um, so it's very hard for us to find another community like ours to compare to when you talk about demographics, when you talk about, um, economic status, all of those things. And is that
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that when you're trying to get to a sustainable level in education, one of the things is you got to track and then you've got to plug in where there's. Where there's problems, you know, you're going to work on math. You're going to work on reading scores. And sometimes people try to do both and you know, resources are limited.
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Yeah, no, no, no, for ‸ sure. And I think that opportunity lies in those career technical education pathways. That's why we've been trying to emphasize them so much during course selection time, which is what we're in right now at the school. As a matter of fact, just today, our eighth graders did a field trip, an on-school field trip, where they visited all of the different CTE programs and got information about the programs, got to try, you know, do things in the classrooms, trying to increase that, that interest. But our data is good in CTE. We've increased enrollment. We've increased our performance. We look to increase again this year. Our overall college
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year, despite the fact that our graduation rate dropped. We are those who are sticking with us are becoming college and career ready at a consistently increasing rate. So I feel good about the direction that we're headed. We know where we need to go. And that's kind of that last document is planning with the end in mind. That's a teacher. That's a teacher phrase, but it's really the truth. We need to know what our end goal is in order for us to come up with a pathway there. And so our goal is increasing the graduation rate, which ‸ we are hoping to be able to do, continuing to increase the college and career readiness. And then obviously graduate, like I said, the students who are immediate positive contributors to the local economy, both as a workforce and as consumers, too. We want to make them help create situations for them where they have the finances to invest in the local economy, to have the extra funds to support our local businesses, which I think is also very important. Are
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have auto collision, we have building construction, we have a health and wellness, which focuses on exercise science. But the certification that they earn in health and wellness really kind of gives them some wiggle room and options ‸ in the health field. We also have digital design, which is actually going to be segueing into an entrepreneurship program using junior achievement as kind of our vehicle for that. And then we also have tech design, which is our AutoCAD program. Currently, we only offer the 2D.
Do you have an individual or department that is totally focused on the non-college path, career path, and what kind of how you want to stack your curriculum to meet the needs of the businesses? I mean, one of the lessons I learned
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of innovative companies all around. And I was wondering if you had to sign somebody to to poll the businesses, you know, what kind of workers are you needing and what's your projection, you know, in the next one, three, five years? Where are you going?
but what I can tell you is from a school side, you know, and to a certain degree, we're limited by what Florida, the state of Florida says students have to take in order to graduate. Right. So there's particular courses that students must have in order to earn a Florida standard high school diploma.
where we can get creative and be a little bit more in partnership with local industry is through those elective courses and CTE would be considered an elective course. So our college preparatory courses such as advanced placement. Those courses are looking at what does a student need to be ready for college success.
go into a very specific career field. What we've done in terms of our counseling department is during the course selection process, we're ensuring that a student is either on track to be college prepared because they have advanced placement or dual enrollment on their course schedule, or they're becoming career prepared because they are on a CTE pathway.
Absolutely. And the internship component, um, the district CTE, um, department has done a wonderful job of really helping support us in that direction. And so this year we had 34 students sign up for internships, um, that were, those were students who ‸ had completed the requirements for their CTE programs. And, um, as a senior, they were allowed to, um, seek an internship placement. Some of those internships are paid internships, which is great because not only is the student getting to leave school early, which they like that part of it. Um, they are going and getting on the job training and experience. And in some cases also getting paid for that time, as well as earning a credit, um, a school credit.
well, it's a difficult, yeah, it's a difficult, it's a difficult exam. And one of the things that you have, if we go all the way back to when I first started talking, our students were struggling in reading and math. And so, of course, that's also going to play an impact on any high stakes
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they're not students who would consider themselves to be college bound. So it's a non-traditional student in that sense. So, um, in many cases you have students who are scoring very low on state assessments, but they're doing wonderfully in CTE. So I, my hand, absolutely, I have to give them, um, a standing round of applause for what they're able to accomplish, um, given the challenges that some of the students face in that situation. But yeah, that particular program, that test is a very challenging test.
Yeah, it's a multi-layered question, honestly, and it doesn't really have one simple answer right now. Um, I think the most immediate thing, um, the most immediate, ‸ the most immediate need of my teachers, of my students, of my families is, um, a morale boost. I think everybody's very, um, stressed right now. I think it's a very difficult time for everybody, whether you're in a school system or not.
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And I think more of that goes a very long way and it might not seem like a big ask or a huge lift, but I think it will carry a lot more weight than you might realize.
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from the community that they could talk to to say, I've lived here for 15 or 20 years. It's a great place to live. You know, there are all of these things to do for your family. The ocean's closed.
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just say ‸ I think the idea of partnering with businesses ‸ is the right way to go. You know, I have college-aged kids, and they're going to college, and they're able to. But I really ‸ encourage them to go and find a skill. And my ‸ business is automotive-related, and I definitely want to talk to you more about the opportunities.
Today, I actually placed a call and left a voicemail on Mr. Reif's ‸ voicemail to give me a call because we are literally hiring anybody that will come through the front doors, and we need people that just want to show up and work.
through our association, we have a very comprehensive training platform that would benefit you guys also and could probably share that with you, even training for handling of electric vehicles. So that's more of a
certification probably than ‸ what you guys are able to do at the high school level, but it would be valuable to your students. ‸ So I'm really excited to hear that you're wanting to partner. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And, you know, invite the businesses in to come and talk to the kids, and I would be happy to do that, and I would ‸ appreciate the opportunity to do that. So I'd like to exchange numbers
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thing, you know, that's, when you think about it, that's something that the community can do without a huge investment, without worrying about where the funds are going to come from. But you've got to spread the word, and we've got to talk about it further. I mean, something as simple as a luncheon that gets big record.
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am. And while I'm passing this out, I want to elaborate on that last point that you made about starting with the employer. There's an awesome program. Write this down. TPM. Talent Pipeline Management.
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you. It's through the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. And it starts with the employer building consortiums on paying points. What are the positions that they need to hire for? And from there, they build this pipeline of educational institutes and grassroots people to get residents to do it. And within a year, they will have a nice pipeline from resident to job. Of filling the jobs that need to be filled.
Got to keep the end in mind. My name is Cynthia. Dr. D. Dr. Dokes. And I work for Elevate Brevard, which is a sub-program under Family Promise of Brevard. So, everybody thinks we're two different things. I'm a ‸ program in Family Promise. So, that's the difference between Elevate Brevard and Family Promise. And so, the premise of this is the governor's sale to 60. 60% of residents having a post-secondary education by the year 2030. Now, that data that I said before, 18% of people having their associate's degree, we're far from 60. So, it'd be unrealistic to think that we're going to reach that 60. But every day, we're going to get one more person in a classroom doing something, closing those skill gaps, and filling the jobs. So,
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So, that's something to clap about too. Secondly, thank you. That was because of United Way. It was because of Eastern Florida State College, Brevard Public Schools.
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‸ those graduation rates. Health First gave us money. Well, I went to Ms. Stewart and I asked her. Because that's one thing. We can't sit in our offices and think, what does Cocoa High need? I got out of my office and I went and
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That vaping is increased. And when you get caught on campus, vaping, smoking, any substance, where you're going to adult ed. When they go to adult ed, it messes up the graduation rate. So, we got to keep them in their seats. We are tutoring. So, going back to ‸ what do we need from the community? We need tutors. We need cheerleaders for people to come out of retirement and come help tutor. And if they're not going to tutor, then give funding towards tutoring. And
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know, it's things like that. And then for those kiddos that can't afford the ACT and SAT, this grant covers the fee for them to take the ACT and SAT. Third, going back to that CTE, well, we have 52 students.
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They're coming to me. Construction companies are coming to me and say, go get the students. So I said, okay, let's table. And at five, I have Hedrick. I have M&E. I have Ivy Construction. I have, I'm missing somebody.
Everybody's wanting to come into Cocoa High, set up the tables, tell the information about their companies, what they need to get the job. Some are willing to pay for them to go back to school and get the skills needed. That would be happening hopefully before testing season. 145 minority male students enrolled. And we were there. We have pictures enrolled on the spot. Well, 145 is all of North County. Yeah, that's all of North County. But the students came to the computer lab and we sat there and we filled out applications. And then right after that, we did the FAFSA. So they have money now to go to end the ‸ school at Eastern Florida State College.
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go to the University of Florida and come back to Brevard in STEM, in the science, technology, engineering, mathematics fields. And I'm like, sure, how are we going to do this? UF pays for the transportation to get the babies up there. This time around, Hedrick's Construction paid for their food to be up there. And they had hands-on STEM activities. The athletes were able to go see the athletic departments.
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I'm opening up state talks. Endeavor Elementary is a community partnership school, and that's why I was the director there for 22 months during the pandemic. They do amazing things. They have extended learning after school and summer camp. They have health center.
That came about because over those 22 months, we brought hundreds of students, and Stockton wrote a check for some glasses out of his pocket. ‸ We brought 300 kids to the doctor, 200 to get glasses, 200 to get their teeth fixed. 12 of them got major dental surgery
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How can you learn when you can't see ‸ the words on the paper? How can you sit still when you have that pain in your mouth? How can you breathe when you have asthma? ‸ To me, out of all the pillars, that health is ‸ most important to me, and that's why I was really on board when we wrote that grant,
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But there's a lot of redundancy with what I do as a local college access network and what the community partnership school does. So at a state level, we're ‸ seeing where ‸ that redundancy is, where we overlap, and we're going to join forces to make the college access network and the community partnership school stronger.
Coco. They're interested. But going back to that health thing too, mental health wise, the word that I kept hearing over and over again is, I'm scared to go back to school. I'm scared to get another job. I'm scared to be a homeowner. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. Adults need mentors too. 30 minutes a day, somebody can call and say, hey, how are you doing? How's your week going? Oh, remember we talked about you going back to school.
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Like exactly what you said, We have to flip it and find the jobs that need to be filled and then sort of kind of steer them in that direction. But these, I had thousands of parents pass me during registration and they're like, no, school? No, don't want to go back. These 250 sat at my table and expressed, I want ‸ change. And I think education is the way out of this.
go to Lori Benjamin over at Clear Lake Adult Ed, if it's English as a second language, we'll get that as well, plus tutors. If it's, we've gotten so many people just changing careers. There was a custodian at Cambridge Elementary School. They got a full scholarship ‸ to Florida Tech because she wanted to be a behavioral analysis. I mean, there's story after story after
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We were at every daycare. We were hanging stuff on people's doors. 55 applied, 20 interviewed, 10 got accepted, all 10 graduated, all 10 were placed in jobs. So I love saying those data points because 100% is a good data point. We're having another cohort come through this April. Another 10,
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get more certifications and we'll keep doing it over and over as long as there is interest for people to stay here, have better jobs. We have to give them better jobs so they can afford these high rents and so on and so forth. Lastly, just some of the pipelines that we've created for this and the premise of it all is because we just want to have people, give people that post-secondary education opportunity and the opportunity to have sustainable wages, living wages. That's it. Any questions?
So she has actually helped us go beyond. We get a certain set of waivers. There's not unlimited funds from the district for SAT and ACT. We have to find it within our own school budgets. So her help has been instrumental in that regard. ‸ Thank you.
I don't have batteries in me that can be replaced. So you only can do so many consecutive 17-hour days. You only can answer that phone call at 2 in the morning. because
My ‸ paycheck is attached to these KPIs. However, if somebody's house is burned down and they need a place to stay, they know to call me. If there's a domestic violence case, if there's a custody case, I'm only one person. So it would be lovely if I could get a staff of like 10 of me. No, but realistically, maybe two more people. Two more people can do that can be part of
stops and starts. And when you have 250 people that are calling asking what their next move is, either I need staff or volunteers. People who can volunteer that time to help me.
can write out, you know, who you need to call to go from A to B to Z and then give that to someone else to help me while I go advocate for other stuff.
we're not here a year or two from now and you are not there and there is not anybody there. And I would just urge you to talk to the people that you have to talk to to act now and not wait. And if it requires funding, then, you know, see if we
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Because I read grants, you know, I have to vote on grants all the time and it's a pain in the neck because as you know, a lot of those giving grants have boilerplate that you've got to have and you never know what the boilerplate is. ‸ And sometimes, people who are writing grants don't read what the requirements are and are not responding to those requirements. And it drives me of a wall.
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no, and that's exactly what some of the, the pre-word, it's in there that they can't do that. It's actually against, it's against some NCAA rules as well.
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and community jumped right in, paid for it. We cooked all ‸ night and fed 200 people. So all I'm saying is the need is there, and I'll be there either way. Okay? But and the questions are great, enthusiasm is great but there is a need there
and they're trying hard. Well, what should be scary for all of us is when asked what's the most important thing? Not money. We need to boost morale. That's scary. ‸ And it's fixable.
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Bryant ‸ is a good example of that. Bryant is doing a triple duty for us. He is the public works director. He is the planning and zoning lead right now. And so, this is probably a 12-hour day for him. And he has two little ones at home. Bryant is a professional engineer through the University of Florida. So, the program that she talked about there, he went through, raised in Merritt Island, still lives in Merritt Island.
so, again, Coco doesn't have a deep bench in terms of staff. We have 460-something positions and most of our directors have to be working directors there. And so, again, when I say that it would be difficult to staff a lot of subcommittees, he's sort of a prime example of that. And I can see he's tired. He's a young guy and so He usually looks a little bit more spry than that.
being here. And again, I know that we're wearing him out and I would say to you that if there was ever a guy that I've seen in my career that ‸ government needs to try to keep it, it's someone
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be because I've been concerned about the staff tie-up and the support and all of the things that go into it. But once we've got his report, we have fulfilled one major piece of our obligation to go through the report and get an update and get a current update And then we can move on to some other things. So,
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fleet, capital projects and then solid waste as well. I also help with the ‸ city's floodplain program which is ‸ mentioned in the sustainability report.
the sustainability items. The city previously wasn't part of what's called a community rating system. It's a program through the National Flood Insurance Program and what it does ‸ if the city can get their community rated at certain scales or classes. It provides a discount to certain individuals that are in flood zones for ‸ FEMA flood insurance.
a while. So, we're a class 9. The lowest you can be is a 10. The best you can be is a 1. Typical average is probably 7, 8, 9. But it's a good start. It's a pretty labor-intensive program to go through. But it's something that I did previously when I was at Winter Springs as their floodplain manager and kind of did over here as well with my certification in ‸ that. Some other items, and I'm kind of going to talk maybe more project specific on how we incorporate some of the sustainability initiatives within it.
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typical roadway projects, you just come through, you blow and go, you mill it and resurface it. You fix base, which is what's under the asphalt in various spots. We use what's called
reclamation on that. It's FDR, where you actually have a machine that comes through and is recycling the roadway and putting it back down. And so you're using the old roadway as the base itself.
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required to have a certain amount of what's called wrap, which is recycled aggregate product, but not all of it goes into the asphalt. So even when we do mill and resurface, that asphalt does have portions of recycled material in ‸ that's just a requirement through FDOT's process, and we follow a
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but it was built with similar principles when it was done. That was before my time ‸ here. LEED certifications are very, very intense to get and very difficult to maintain as well. other examples, we're actually finishing up a shoreline project right now using recycled concrete to help fortify the shoreline. We've done that in the past with sidewalk panels. The city has in the past. We're using what's called
When you do ‸ sidewalk projects and you're removing that concrete, it actually goes to a crusher. They remove the rebar and things like that that you shouldn't put in the water. ‸ Otherwise, ‸ concrete is pH neutral for the most part, so it's safe to put there. ‸ We've been working to do that in locations. Any trouble with
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A bucket can pull that up, but the idea ‸ is not to pull it up, as long as it's installed correctly. Some other things that we've ‸ kind of done ‸ to show examples, and through the Citizens Academy, we actually have a rain garden at our public works facility, so when the Citizens Academy comes through, we kind of provide a little example of what you could do at home, ‸ whether it's directing a roof drain down to it, or if your driveway slopes a certain direction, to have a small little rain garden. ‸ Every little bit helps when we're talking about the lagoon, and that's ‸ something that ‸ not just the city, and not really even just the county, but all the counties along the lagoon, they need the coastal residents to ‸ really kind of pitch in on that and do some of those items there.
‸ that's something that ‸ we've done, ‸ we're looking into, Cape Canaveral's done this, and we haven't rolled it out, I don't think Stockton knows about it yet either, but adopt a mangrove program to where through stormwater we would fund a certain number of mangrove plantings,
coordinate with them, and we would provide that mangrove. They would do the planting and the maintenance of it, but we would at least provide that, and ‸ it helps get the word out there, because
The Brevard Zoo does a pretty good job with it, but we run into a lot of people that ‸ don't know about living shorelines and don't know that ‸ you can do your own oyster nursery for free or do clam programs for free through the zoo and ‸ basically help farm that, so ‸ we're constantly working with the zoo on that. ‸ We were slated to get a living shoreline about a year and a half ago. We keep getting pushed out because the water quality in our portion of the lagoon is too poor, and so they're focusing on areas that have better water quality where the oysters can actually survive. They don't want to put the time and investment in if it's going to die, so hopefully we see the improvements. The water quality generally has been getting better. The seagrass, unfortunately, though, is not, so we're hopeful, though, that here in the near future we'll ‸ get the word that we can start that project, and So, that would be over at
and he's come out with, they're basically like a cover almost, or a sheet that you would place over a vertical seawall that imitates mangrove roots, and it actually uses portions of oysters within the concrete material, and the whole idea is to allow for oysters to congregate, and so, you can almost create your oyster reef on a sheet pile type seawall, which right now with the way sheet piles are constructed, especially with the ‸ plastic type material or the
it's hard for things to stick to that, so this would be an option for existing seawalls to actually have these panels put on ‸ and then have oysters congregate there. You still need the oysters to have the ability to ‸ be there.
to try to work with that because from a residential standpoint, it's a pretty good option, and we're ‸ waiting on a follow-up on that to potentially try to do that over at Riverfront because we have the vertical seawalls there,
What we're working on is trying to figure out what the ‸ nutrient removal rate would be on that because of funding perspective, that's what it's based on, and if
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and a lot of it's really, I'd say a lot of our efforts are focused on the lagoon. Over the past few months alone, we've been awarded about over $4 million in grants.
can. We have some drainage issues on the backside that we're going to have to deal with, but then we're also looking to incorporate a living shoreline, nutrient removal, baffle boxes, the second-gen type.
if I understood right, and I'm asking to speak to you about, but ‸ you'd raise Dixon, and did you say raise the north part too, where it's so low there?
We would raise more ‸ the intersection of Indian River Drive. Okay. So Dixon's pretty high there. ‸ Trying to prevent the flooding that occurs over there. It's going to be very, very difficult with the older homes because their elevations are so low, and we obviously don't want to make things worse. So it'll ‸ be an interesting practice to figure that out.
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You would pitch the high end up, and so that would help create the embankment, And then we would add curve on top of that. So we're probably raising that portion. We're trying to get about six inches, but like I said, it's
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We probably won't get it above the flood elevation there, but it should help some. We have to deal with, you know, ‸ that helps prevent when the river is rising and coming in. The other issue is when all your storm pipes are below water level already and the
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And that condition isn't really different regardless of what we're doing because the water can't get out now. It wouldn't get out then. But we don't want to take away that capacity that's there within the roadway because I would rather a roadway flood than a home. And ‸ so ‸ it's a tough balance there. So it'll ‸ be a tough project when ‸ you look at the scale of it, and you look at the cost of design and construction. construction. It's a very costly project.
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grant. It's a little over $3 million. ‸ So we're going to owe I believe about $1.6 million. ‸ In terms of stormwater, what our available budget is. That's about two years worth of my capital expenditures.
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other grants. And there's other resources out there. It makes the timing difficult. It's a state grant, so there's a little bit more leeway on it, on what type of matching dollars you can use. When it's federal grants, you can't use federal dollars.
do a portion of general fund. We already have those dollars set aside in the general fund. And so we'll do a general fund and then we'll go get, hopefully, other grants to match the grant.
them, through the ‸ IRL NEP ‸ program. And that was for the design. So we'll go back to them for part of our match as well. We just need to get to a point in design to where we can give them a good cost on that.
The plans call out to include living shoreline, a small little overlook, like an educational area for that, and then the nutrient removal boxes. Right now, I think there's two of them. So when you're talking
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they're expensive. But ‸ we believe we have enough ground flow through there to make them worth it. Because you don't want to just put those boxes anywhere. ‸ They work better with a base flow as opposed to just a single flush. But we have enough base flow and groundwater through there to where it would help. interesting
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Yeah. Yeah. ‸ And we've also, you've probably seen around town, we've started doing floating wetlands a few years ago. Those have been really, really successful for us. Not only just from a capital standpoint, it's a really good bang for your buck when it comes to nitrogen removal. And, you know, basically, if you don't know what they are, you're creating a wetland and a stormwater pond. So stormwater ponds are meant for stormwater. They're not, when they were originally constructed and most of our ponds around here were constructed a long time ago, that was the intent for stormwater, and that's it. Not to be ecosystems and things like that. That's why you see steep banks and things like that. So this kind of creates that ecosystem out in the middle of the pond, and you're putting these plants there, and they're absorbing the nitrogen, and they're growing, And then every year our contractor comes in and harvest them, take them to a lab, and they can measure the amount of nitrogen that's removed within the plants because they have enough baseline studies. And so we
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for reimbursements on that. One of the grants that we were notified on, which is a zero match, was about $760,000 for floating wetlands, which is, it's a ‸ lot.
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you don't normally get grants when you apply for them. They're very competitive, of course. And so we got that one. We're pretty excited about it. We've got some rough numbers on nutrient removal on that. And we're, when that's completed, along with a couple more baffle boxes, we should almost be done with our required nutrient removal, the state requirement for the TMDLs and the BMAPs for the Indian River Lagoon. So everyone's, everyone gets allocations on the amount of pounds of nitrogen and phosphorus you have to remove.
the exercise equipment's being, being finished there. We hope to have a ‸ soft opening, hopefully in the next month or so on that. And that just provides outdoor recreation for an area that really just has stormwater ponds and it creates that Bracco area to be more of a park. Right now there's just walking paths, so it provides another amenity there for residents to use. So we're interested to see how that ‸ works out. ‸ There's previous plans there that name the paths and things like that.
And when you get usage at parks, good usage, the parks end up being better. You know, you have less issues there. And so hopefully that ‸ helps with that area. And then,
just our, our canopy, we were awarded a couple of years ago the urban forestry grant. So first two years we're through that and that was ‸ an inventory. And then we went through creating a management plan. We're just waiting on the release for year three. And so that's $15,000 matching for tree plantings. So once we get the release on that, then we're going to be planting about $30,000 worth of trees. You know, our goal is to, to not plant what we call sticks. You see a lot of developers come in and it's the smallest tree you can find. We like to plant something that's at least got a little bit of height, six to eight feet.
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You know, ‸ we're adding in the exercise equipment with those amenities and the walking path. The area is going to need shade. And then we'll work through the areas that are identified as part of the plans, looking at right-of-ways and other parks ‸ to plant those trees.
an overview of some of the things that we've been working on over the past couple of years. I know there's a number of items in the spreadsheet at the back of the plan. So if there's any specific questions or any general questions.
We applied for a grant through the Florida Inland Navigation District, which is the same grant agency that helped us do some of that work for design, which would include a new day slip docking system, not necessarily floating. We don't know what it is going to be yet. And then also a breakwater. Did you say a breakwater? Breakwater. Breakwater.
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You know, It could be something like what's over at Whitley Bay. I'd love to tell you we're going to do a living breakwater like they did down in Fort Pierce. That's a $20 million project and about four years of permitting just to do a project like that. ‸ We're probably not going to get that, But there's also floating concrete type docks that act as breakwaters too. And so the goal is with the engineer to look at a couple different options, look at the cost, you know, a floating concrete type dock that's not necessarily connected to anything. That would probably be good for the riverfront in terms of concerts and things like that. But you also have that added benefit of a breakwater.
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contractor. Just about all of our all of our resurfacing type work is all through contractors. There's not many cities or even counties, I'd say, in the state that...
‸ Yes, so ‸ we mill and resurface annually. We don't always do FDR. We only need that if there's issues in the base. And you can usually tell, you know, if it's like you're driving on a dirt road or something, ‸ there's base issues. It's not just asphalt. So that's pretty selective when we do that. But the mill and resurface is standard. That's what you see most ‸ areas do. You're really not supposed to simply overlay, which is what a lot of areas used to just come in and topcoat it with an inch or two inches of asphalt. You run into ADA issues. And drainage issues. It's not a good practice when you have curved roadway.
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that's already eroded away. And it looks like that whole corner may ‸ be gone next big storm. How does... Is that... That's a Florida Department of Transportation or you guys or...
it's not under ‸ the bridge, but it's... As ‸ the bridge approach. That's all FDOT. They just finished... Last year, they finished restoring the embankments
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like, hey, this is 101. If you're below the line when the river gets a little high, what makes you think it's not going to eat behind that wall? ‸ And it's... It's... Two feet now. And it's just sand back there anyhow. Sand fill. Yeah, we'll... We'll touch base with... All right.
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it's very obvious to me, which neighborhoods have ‸ the reclaimed water and which ones don't. You can just tell by looking at the lawn. Is there any vision for getting everyone some reclaimed water so they can have a lawn or put plants in or something?
So ‸ that'd be under a jack with utilities. I do know from a ‸ reclaim standpoint, I believe that's funded through sewer. ‸ And so when you're, the city's not making money on reclaim. So it's a cost that would have to be
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Occasionally. So we work through, we have an agreement with Napa IBS. And so we have an IBS parks clerk. And so we generally go through Napa. Most of the time when we're replacing parts, we're wearing them down pretty good. And it's hard to get used parts from, for certain things that we need.
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So, part of it has to do with just the timing alone. It's already going to take two to three years to, to just work through find, to work through FEMA on something like that. So, when you talk about hazard mitigation grant programs, I'd say first with that, that goes through the county. The county committee ranks that. And there's a number of items on that list. Backup generators for emergency facilities.
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Yeah, we met with FEMA on that. So, not through the HMGP, through the LMS program, but just as a FEMA project. We met with them. We're still waiting on clarification from them on whether that's something we can even submit for because during some of those meetings, they've actually sort of backtracked.
and they're starting to backtrack on whether or not that should have even been funded. And so, until ‸ we hear that, we don't want to be, ‸ you know, ‸ there's other cities and counties where they've actually come back and said, no, you owe us money. We shouldn't have done this.
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When you get back from your vacation, you're going to set up a meeting with FEMA because, yeah, that's part of the, I know that was one of the early questions. Absolutely. If you
for keeping you outside. That's all good. I appreciate it. And I'll definitely look into, obviously, the embankment, that's a, that's a maintenance issue.
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‸ you know, we laugh about it, but that's, that's the issue. As a society, we got to decide, have we overpushed college? and, And is it time that we looked at what we need in our society And how should we give people the opportunities that they need to get those skills to get the job done? or we're going to be in trouble. So, thank you. Mr. City Manager, with your concurrence, could we put on the next agenda as the only item priorities and we'll finally get priorities done And we can let everybody go home And if we don't have to add anything else onto the agenda, unless it's critical, we can have a nice discussion about priorities and what kind of things we'd like to focus on. I think, on the upside, all the reports have been very helpful. You know,
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