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Planning & Zoning

Planning & Zoning Regular Meeting

Date
2022-05-04
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #868
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What the City's record shows

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Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Russell Sengel, Marilyn Green, Jeri Blanco, Michael Dobrin, Veronica Lopez, Justin Simpson, Susan Mock, Aleck Greenwood, Merrybeth Burgess, Debbie Joyce
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines; no independent membership list of this board is available to confirm that the roll is complete.)
  • Listed absent: Todd Anderson, Al Washington
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Stockton Whitten (City Manager), Angela Essing (Growth and Economic Development Director), Kristin Eick (Board Attorney), Cindy Thurman (Planning and Zoning Manager), Sandra Leone (Planner), Paul Body (Senior Planner), Lavander Hearn (Board Liaison), Mike Blake (Mayor)
  • Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: BLANCO, BURGESS, DOBRIN, GREEN, GREENWOOD, LOPEZ, MOCK, SENGEL, SIMPSON (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (4)

  • to APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR THE MAY 4, 2022 REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING (moved by DOBRIN, seconded by BLANCO); PASSED 9-0; ayes: SENGEL, GREEN, BLANCO, BURGESS, DOBRIN, GREENWOOD, LOPEZ, MOCK, SIMPSON; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
  • to APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE APRIL 6, 2022 REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING WITH AMENDMENTS (moved by BLANCO, seconded by SIMPSON); PASSED 9-0; ayes: SENGEL, GREEN, BLANCO, BURGESS, DOBRIN, GREENWOOD, LOPEZ, MOCK, SIMPSON; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
  • to ACCEPT STAFF’S RECOMMENDATION TO DENY THE APPLICATION REQUEST FOR MODWASH (moved by ALTERNATE MEMBER GREENWOOD, seconded by DOBRIN); PASSED 9-0; ayes: SENGEL, GREEN, BLANCO, BURGESS, DOBRIN, GREENWOOD, LOPEZ, MOCK, SIMPSON; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 7; the vote on p. 8
  • to ADJOURN THE REGULAR MEETING OF MAY 4, 2022 (moved by MOCK, seconded by ALTERNATE MEMBER GREENWOOD); PASSED 9-0; ayes: SENGEL, GREEN, BLANCO, BURGESS, DOBRIN, GREENWOOD, LOPEZ, MOCK, SIMPSON; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 8

Agenda (the City's wording)

The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (PZ_Reg_Agenda_05_04_2022), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.

Transcript Partial transcript

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Yes,
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we do.
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I thought she had saved and finalized that. Okay, I'm sorry.
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I was told none
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of the meeting, correct?
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Okay, I'm sorry.
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Okay.
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But we're going to start from the point of the beginning of the presentation?
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Yeah.
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Okay. Okay.
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Okay. If you feel like you're experiencing day drop, you are.
[00:00:39] Speaker 6
Alright, ‸ good evening. Angela Essing. So, tonight before us we have the consideration of a comprehensive plan minor map amendment to change the future land use map designation of mixed use to commercial on 1.38 acres at the southwest corner of State Road 520 and US 1. This application before you is to change the future land use from mixed use to commercial to allow for the redevelopment of the site into a car wash.
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map. You can see the proposed commercial future land use on the lower map. The city is broken into 7 future land use elements. Every piece of property in the city has 1 of these 7 elements identified within the future land use map to narrow down the information for this evening. I have condensed the chart ‸ to show you just the commercial and just the future land use elements together. You can. You can see that.
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You can see on the chart on the left that the commercial and the mixed use future land use elements have different categories that are broken down from maximum density all the way through maximum pervious surface discusses the zones that are allowed transportation allowable uses.
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property today is that there is a mixed use future land use designation. With that mixed use designation, the allowed zones are categorized here on this map and the current zone of the property is CP. So you will see
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that is shown in the allowed zones.
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received its future land use and then it received a future land use of mixed use. So there's one of two errors here either the CP zoning designation needs to be added to the mixed use chart.
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um, those properties that have the, the, um, mixed use future land use on them and determine what is
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is, um, appropriate for those uses.
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that is the reason we are here today. The applicants would like to construct a car wash on the site. So they are proposing that we change, um, the future land use to commercial, which then has a different set of allowable zones. They are then proposing to rezone the property to CG, which does allow for a car wash.
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use. However, the applications build upon each other. And so one thing that should be considered as we look at this application for the future land use is that ultimately the uses allowed in the CP zone can ‸ be seen on the right hand side of your screens under permitted uses. The change of the future land use to commercial would allow the property to be rezoned to CG and thus in turn allows for different properties to be permitted on that property on that particular parcel. And in making this slide for you, we tried to put identical uses across from each other. So when looking at this, you can see retail stores are allowed in both.
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additional uses are allowed in the CG, CG zone that are not currently allowed in the CP zone. Some of these uses are automotive. Automotive well, obviously the automotive laundry
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and the quick wash
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which is why they are asking for that zone. You have liquor stores, you have storage garages, public and ‸ private parking repair services, medical financial institutions, pharmacies, etc. Then as you work your way down to the bottom of the chart, you can also see that there are some differences in the special exceptions that are allowed. These special exceptions need to be reviewed for the surrounding land uses to make sure that those are appropriate uses on the site.
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and it's important to note that
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ordinance 11 2010.
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zone as it was added to the other six elements of the, of the comprehensive plan.
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we have before us today, the State Road 520 and US 1. Now, it does note that you can also are allowed to have a single use on the site, even if you fall under the future land use mixed use designation. The proposal today is to change that to commercial and the rhetoric for the commercial land use category states that is intended for areas that serve several neighborhoods, sub regional and regional areas and provide an array of retail,
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personal and professional
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uses.
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And so when you are reviewing an application like this, you need to consider the eight items that can determine whether or not a change should be made to that future land use. And there is no, they, when you consider these eight items, there is no magic number as far as the number of items that need to be a mat or unmet. It is simply a review of those items and a belief that we are following, um, the city's desires as the comprehensive plan has established. So I'm going to go through several of those with you, um, at this point. So one of those is that does the, um, does the application have a favorable impact on the city's tax revenue? Obviously there are different levels of businesses that generate different levels of taxes for the city, but any redevelopment on this site, uh, would be an advantage to the city's tax revenue. Then the next item is, um, the evaluation and appraisal report. So this is a report that is required by the state, um, and there are varying state statutes that require us to maintain our comprehensive plan in a particular way.
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there were particular goals that had to be met.
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And,
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does meet those goals that were set back in 2010. And then we're recognized again in 2020 when we did another ear amendment, these amendments are required every 10 years. And when we did a second one, we did not change any of those items to the mixed use at that time because the city still believes that it was the correct designation for this particular property. Another one of the, um, eight considerations is that the impacts on the environment or the natural or historical resources, uh, of the city or the region. Obviously on this site, there are no, um, environmental considerations as I think there's only two or three trees and,
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on the site. However, I think it is important to note that this is a prominent intersection for the city of Coco. It is, I believe the only
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designating that you have arrived at Coco when you are in this intersection. Um,
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from those signs. So looking back in history, noting that the signs obviously denote a prominent intersection.
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the land at this intersection as far back as 2002. And I found this one, um, piece from the minutes that I felt was important to share. It says it is important that this prominent corner announcing the entrance to downtown Coco be developed consistently with the city's express long-term land use goals. And vision for the corridor, which is a mixed use center. It should also be noted that this intersection is also a prominent entrance to our diamond square CRA. Although I was not able to identify any, um, discussion in the minutes and things like that.
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it a prominent intersection for the city.
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Question. If you can go back, we'll just real quick, please.
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Yes. Mm hmm.
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So, uh, the, one of the considerations is the impact on the environment with it being with the current proposal of trying to get all the land designation being changed over to the commercial. And applying a car wash here.
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significant types of chemicals and everything else used at car washes. And if I'm need a little bit of clarification, as far as are they going to be draining into us, into the, our sewer system, or is there going ‸ to be separate storage tanks for those? Uh, because I know. Uh,
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because I know. At
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least in other states with with car washes,
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they are
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required to have designated storage tanks for those drainage and that type.
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Um, ‸ that could be impacted. Yes,
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and a very good question. I believe the applicants will address that when they give their presentation. Yes.
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If I could respond to that question a little bit also, um, just to keep in mind that the. Use of a car wash, although that is what is precipitating the, the application,
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So, um, really, I think when you're looking at the factor of impacts to the environment, you're looking at what are the overall impacts based on the two policies that we're looking at, which is commercial and mixed use.
[00:13:24] Speaker 6
All right. So these are, um, these are additional, um, items that we should review, um, in considering this application. And,
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before us consistent with the goals, policies and objectives of the state comprehensive plan. And that is what I had referred to a little bit earlier
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So the state does put particular, um, requirements on the comprehensive plan, um, that the city does need to, um, follow. And the city believes the acknowledgement of the land use pattern at the, at the intersection really is the most important, um, item for. The future land use in this area. Um, again, just basing that on the historical data, um, back to 2010. One of the other requirements, is it compatible with the surrounding neighborhoods? Um, and again, not to, um, say this too much, but again, the, the thought of the mixed use corridor ‸ specifically at 520 and us one, um, was to promote the mixed use. And all the benefits of having mixed use in that area, um, along the corridor as an entrance to both the, um, Cocoa village and to the diamond square CRA. Um, um,
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with another map. So sorry, I'm getting a little bit ahead of myself, but okay. Okay. One of the other items is adequate housing. And as, as I noted that with the, um, mixed mixed use, um, future land use, you can have 5 additional units on that site. If you were to do a mixed use project. So if you had retail below residential above, you could do up to 30 dwelling units for per acre.
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Uh, is, is the best site for housing on the site because of the train, the major intersection, those type of things, um, that there is, um, probably there are better areas within the city where housing could be provided.
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elements is, is this consistent with all the elements of the comprehensive plan, which is a little bit of a hard one to answer because obviously we're proposing a change to the comprehensive plan. So in that case, it is not, um, consistent with all the elements of the comprehensive plan that therefore the request to
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make the change.
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So in summary and,
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followed by my recommendation, the applicants are asking to change the future land use from mixed use to commercial.
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was specific specifically identified at this intersection. The request for the commercial future land use designation does not satisfy the compliant compliant amendment standards and is not compatible with
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the land use pattern of the four corners. Because again, changing
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the future land use map designation of mixed use to commercial on the 1.38 acres at the southwest corner of state road 520 and us one to the reasons described above.
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Anybody on the board have any questions for staff? All right. Moving on. We'll have the developer. You have the floor. And your name and address for the record.
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Yes, sir.
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your board.
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here representing
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is the project manager from ModWash.
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Like Ms. Essing, our project really, I mean our presentation is really one presentation.
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I don't usually be sworn in, but I don't know the truth to
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have
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We can just stop real quick and we can address that.
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Thank you.
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he'll do the PowerPoint and he'll just put it in. First, I want to thank you for your time here tonight.
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any city present. It's a complicated issue and I understand that because you have very specific visions and goals and things that it wishes to protect. And we do understand that. We are here because the
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the zoning ‸ inconsistent. This isn't a new project. This started back in November of
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a bit to come to this path. Yes, it would have been simpler to add CP to the mixed-use chart, but that was not the path that the city asked us to go down. This is the path that they said we should take and that's why we're here
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There are many areas in zoning as Mr. Simpson and I've already stated.
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has been consistent and used in general. And hopefully that can change now that it's been brought to the city's attention.
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been in place since 1988.
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I would like you to please keep in mind that the ultimate
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There's been quite a
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of talk by Ms. Essing and
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report on a mixed-use center. A mixed-use center means just that, a
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And that's what you have right now at that intersection.
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in all that area. So a mixed-use center does not necessarily mean a mixed-use future land use.
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And so this is
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the goals of the 2010 change to the comp company. So again, as you go through this presentation with Mr.
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Rank,
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I ask that you consider whether the Mod Wash, Car Wash makes sense here based upon what exists there and what mixed-use really
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not just some designation on the map because the change is very similar to what's next to it, for both the zoning and the comp company.
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many times, I'm sure, in recommended approval in the service area. But as you think about that, not about what the wish list is to be there. We've heard that they wish for many things there, including residential. You have a railroad track there, you have limited access, you can't get on to that property from 520,
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And there's very limited uses that can go there.
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things from going there,
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heard that. That was done back in 2007, and there's nothing that can be done about it now. That land has been
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sold.
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So this isn't about that. I don't want this to go into many different directions.
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So, um, if the presentation is basically going to be made in both, um, I don't think you need
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and we can swear you in for that if
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don't need you to I don't need you to run through it again, but we can submit it into the record. Yeah.
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Okay, again,
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Senior Planner with the
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with a planning degree from Virginia Tech, over 14 years experience in both public and private sector.
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Okay.
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And in fact, this is the first opportunity that we're having to present this to the public and the city. We've had several meetings with commissioners, ‸ mayor, and city staff. We had a community meeting scheduled that we
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Because of
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certain reasons,
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delayed and postponed.
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that we want to be in front of the public. We're hearing the results of our lunch. And we've said that since day one. And we look at different options on this property,
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with staff.
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to commercial and the zoning to the CG was what the option followed.
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here we are. So moving forward, I
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we all know where the property is located at this point. So some of the site conditions. Some of you guys
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talked through, but just to show you guys, show everyone.
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you abandon the right of way, half the right of way goes to one side of the property, the other after the other. In this case, this property makes up about 11 parcels.
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1.38 acres. And as I'm talking through this slide, I'm trying to, you know, when I was first looking at this site, I tried to figure out reasons why this site potentially has not been redeveloped. They said, I mean, you've heard the staff say many times tonight, it's on the common corner. It's the entrance to the city and ‸ types of things. And a lot of it could be there's a transmission line, FPL, but we're going to
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to put an easy back through. I think the gas station previously couldn't
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The site is an awkward shape. I
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may not want to or desire to be obligated on the product. And the reason I say that ‸ tonight
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to the city's program. And I want the whole story to be told. So we walked through this, staff walked through it. But again, the reason we're here, for our new tonight, is for two applications. The future land use designates for the next use to commercial and the zoning change from CP to CG. This chart is the same chart
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to point out that, again, our zoning is
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So we have to go through this process, or a process, to make the zoning and land use consistent. And as you can see, the commercial land use
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I would have to say that as you look at this map, and
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‸ To change it to commercial, it's not a far stretch. This is the land development pattern north, and US 1 is commercial. And
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a consistent development pattern.
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The north west area commercial is well.
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Just so happens that the
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So again, what the applicant is trying to propose here is a single use, which is allowed by the comprehensive plan
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single uses. So a single use car wash is allowed, and I'm glad I talked about the constraints of
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property. This will likely develop as a single use. And as you can see with this project,
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I want to explain the, what we're proposing here is an express car wash. And that term, different car washes are thrown around full services.
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site, you come through the pay stalls, you either have a membership or you're paying cash. You stay in the vehicle through the car wash, you exit, you have the option of seltzer or vacuums, or you continue on. If you're like me, ‸ keep the interior car clean like that. I'm a very, I'm a user of these black car washes.
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I have one by my office and one by my
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if I ‸ go daily, I go daily. So, you know, it's very convenient use. It's typically located along major corridors, to and from,
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again, ‸ pass by type ‸ use. And we feel like it's a great use for this
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This is some elevations of our, of the proposed car wash tunnel. You can see the
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there.
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So Hutton was,
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company that ‸ started in 1998 by Karen Hutton. They have developed over 1,330 projects nationwide in 40 states. And you can see some of the names of the businesses that they, they helped grow. One of them is Mod Wash. Karen created Mod Wash, the car wash company, and wants to bring it to the state of Florida, and to the city of Cocoa.
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getting back from them, a nationwide company. This
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to another company.
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It's one of the fastest growing ground up car washes in America. You can see the states up there where they're at. But the, there's six open locations in Florida. 42 are, are in development.
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So again, you know, that being said, the Mod Wash, name the Mod Wash company, is going to be in this community.
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So
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believes in making a positive ripple. And what that
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And it's acts of kindness, paying it forward, smile, positive attitude. And, I mean, those are the type of companies I want
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the first time we're able to present the company, present the project to the public.
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And again, the local
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They support local organizations, once they're established in the community.
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Happiness, wildlife, rehabilitation, and rescue. And just some
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the years.
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comp plan amendment and the rezoning. But again, this, being the first time I'm able to present this project in front of you, I want to talk a little bit more about, not just
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operations, but there were a
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questions about our garden mill. And I want to address those as well.
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site at any time.
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making them a
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that. They're hired and they're now managers. They own or, or manage several stores. So, there's moving up opportunities with this company.
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your vehicle at home.
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on your hood, you can't put back. But washing your car can use over 150 ounces. And this untreated water flows into the, in your yard, storm systems, and yet adversely it impacts local waterways and even coastal areas.
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So, that's the next thing with us. So, ‸ it's
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better for you to wash your car at a, ‸ at a car wash.
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All chemicals are biodegradable, phosphate free, and ocean free. So, the chemicals that we use, again, are biodegradable, phosphate free, and ocean free.
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clean before it goes back into the, uh, the sewer system.
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so, just looking at existing site conditions, okay, everybody in this room, encouraged by this property. Those buildings are no longer there, but,
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the property and a rendering of what
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tree on the site. We are required by the code to, you know, have a landscape plan, and install trees, and buffering, and edges, and, you know, it's gonna ‸ improve the look of the corner. You know, the entrance to the city
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that ‸ staff, uh, was mentioning earlier. This is a rendering,
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So, again, you see, um, our
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look like from, when the trees are more mature, what would look like from that, from that inner church.
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reasons why developers and builders have not come in and built it, built on this site. Um, and there's an opportunity in front of you here today to develop it. It's
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great, great use and ‸ great user. Um, you know, I'm working on several mile washes, and other car wash companies. And mile washes is a great, you
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when I did the research, and I was looking up, you know, to me, I would want them in my community.
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again, we, we agree that, uh, this property is not right for residential. I mean, wedged between US-1 and, and the trade tracks, and mixed use, with access, there's some, there's some,
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constraints there. Um, we believe this is more appropriate, at least this side of, of US-1, more appropriate for commercial development, and, and uses like car wash.
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We have Marilyn Green on the phone.
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Go ahead, Marilyn.
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Hi. Thank you. I have listened to this, and I've reviewed the information extensively. And I appreciate that ModWash wants to locate in Cocoa, and
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some good locations I'm sure that they can find. But I believe it's essential to look at the city's vision for this location, basically with the goal of supporting the quality of life for our neighbors in Diamond Square and the heart of Cocoa. In other words, looking at the comprehensive plan and the future land use. Simply, a car wash, a single-use commercial business, does not enrich these communities. A mixed-use center brings ‸ more value. In my humble opinion, there are better options for this property. So I thought I would just mention this and like to go on record is on accepting the staff recommendations and denying these applications.
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to see here.
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We do, but that wouldn't apply to the comprehensive plan.
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So it is somewhat one and the same thing. But I do want to show you the Google aerial. I know you all know this area, but when you look at it from the sky, it looks a bit different.
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zoned by corners, which is something I've never heard before. But this is an intersection that's been around a long time. The
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It was most recently, apparently, a used car dealership according to Google. My husband, who grew up here, remembers this thing ‸ a diner 30 years ago. That wouldn't even be allowed in the zoning code anymore. And you might want a restaurant there, but you can't have it right now. The building, the Erdman building, was built in 1961. That sign says it was 1927.
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in 1962, and I don't think it's going to go anywhere.
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This use, generally, the best uses for the businesses go where there's the clients. So while the vision may be mixed use, which, again, I think you do have a mix of uses there, and it is a mixed use center. If the vision is to make this a town center,
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This is the uses that have been there for a long time. So other similar uses should be considered compatible. The oversight in 2010 is what has caused this problem.
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So while there is a vision and there is a thought for many things, there's not a lot of things that can ever go there.
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They presented a site plan to the city. They presented a site plan to FDOT. They provided rendering and exhibits and applications. And,
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and although this is the entrance to the city by those signs that were constructed, which,
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So it is the entrance to the town, but it's not the town center.
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We have another
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From what you see from that Google map, this corridor is almost an automotive area, almost outside of where most of the town congregates.
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And because it's a pass-by and there's so much traffic, you're not going to have quaint little shops
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These buildings will continue to be out of sales in the smoke shop if one is profitable. Otherwise, they wouldn't be there. So the question to you is simple, and I just heard Ms. Green, she says she doesn't think it's compatible. But is this car wash compatible with what's around it? And it certainly is. In fact, most car washes are in, or
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car wash in an automobile sales. There's private talk in ‸ staff reports about visions and policy decisions, and I don't know what those mean.
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it's not at all clear what the vision is, except a mixed-use center. And avoiding the strict commercial
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And that is the only statement of vision that was in the minutes from 2010. Your code is quirky. I have never actually seen automobile laundry or quick wash. It is only located in the general commercial. You do have references to car wash establishments and other zoning categories. So your code has evolved over time. And this almost appears to be an oversight that this general
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what could be in a general commercial loan.
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the cost of this property, the
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restrictions
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by FDOT. So what you can do if you think this is compatible, if you like the look, if you like the $6
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If you like the 10 to 15 new jobs in the area, then this is a compatible use. You can limit your zoning
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Or we can enter a development plan to make this a binding use. There are many options.
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But there are
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good things in general commercial. You can have a bank there. You can have a restaurant. There are other good things you might want. So there are other things that could be considered in a binding condition. But also, this inconsistency issue has not been explained well because it's, and I don't blame it on the
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and I don't blame it on the staff report.
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it's been codified in Florida statutes. And if you look at Florida statutes, and there may be others that disagree with me, but in chapter 163, I have a citation. If
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order or land development or development permit or any permit if you have these inconsistencies. At some point, this is going to ‸ be fixed or you're going to have that vacant, dry looking piece of property that's not doing anything for the community. And so this project has come to you. It's made a great deal of effort. It is an attractive building. It is compatible with the other uses in the area.
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I would like to address Ms.
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list of things
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That's in your
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land use
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plan.
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There is a huge advantage in your tax base.
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to explain how there's an
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two used car dealerships and a smoke shop. It is surrounded with the surrounding, it is compatible with the surrounding neighbors. There's
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car sales. And with that, I do have a couple of questions from the side of the test that you're starting in the staff report.
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I'm not sure that you have the ability to cross-examine her on a legislative matter.
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You cannot.
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report because many of it simply doesn't make sense in the conclusory. It just doesn't say how the city got to the conclusion.
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So ultimately it's up to you to decide what the
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is and if my gosh can fit with what's already there.
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[00:50:10] Speaker 15
Yes, Alec. Thank you. I noticed in one of the drawings here, access in and out of the property. Am I seeing it correctly that the only way you can get to this location is off of US-1 while you're driving south on US-1? And that's the entranceway. And then that's if you want to get there. Otherwise, if I'm coming from the south, Rockledge to here, I would have to make a U-turn around
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this property. Is that correct?
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I believe, two right in and right outs. As you go south on US-1, there's the old Stone Street right away that's still there. I believe there's one more driveway south. There's at least an apron for it.
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so I don't know that it's actually. ‸ We've submitted our plans to FDOT, and
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of the period of the
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for our gas station, I don't know how far they got. But we're mostly through our EOT access first, which is just a step back of the limit,
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So, our access is going to be through FDOT. They, going through that process, they, pretty much, immediately said, you're not going to have access, there's no way, we're not going to allow any access, just because it doesn't meet safety standards. It doesn't meet any standard for FDOT to have ‸ access. And
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We try to other out. But yes, to answer your question,
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site? Because this is just the lots of property available. And I was just curious if, how it compares to other properties.
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Well, I must compliment you that the project is very attractive. It's ‸ very well laid out, very well designed. But it needs to make sense of it to be located there, to me.
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And that's what makes this property unique. And I feel that it's a matter of time for the right project to go there. I don't think that this will fit there, because of the information that was stated earlier, of what the initial future outlooks that the City Council looked for these four different corners that
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a piece of property there for sale. I highly recommend you look into it.
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I don't know what the price is, but I don't think it's going to be that high. This is like a square peg going into a round hole. I love what you're doing here, but it's just not consistent with the City Outlook is for the development of those areas. We've got a smoke shop. And it's not just your project that you're wanting to do there. But if you take a look at it,
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got a smoke shop on another corner. We've got car lots on the other side. And this is a prime area because of the high traffic count. And I really feel that the City is making attempts to have this utilized to its highest best use.
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that's interested in doing that. I just highly hope that you might consider another location in Cocoa because I think it will work here, but just not at that corner. Thank you.
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access off the gate. To me, in my eyes as a planner, a car wash makes sense because of the circulation and the linear tunnel that you need.
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this project, the way it's laid out, has more staffing than I would say 90% of car washes that
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‸ The stacking alone, the circulation, the number of
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we're able to buy this property, ‸ it works as a car wash.
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over the years, we have to get out
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transmission line
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that goes across
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this
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property.
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the tire in the north and in the south. A building,
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‸ retail mixed use strip building. You can't get the depth of a building on the site if you don't get the park. You know, it's hard to get, you know,
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the site, you've got buffers a number of years, buffers in the front. To meet all those requirements, ‸ adequate circulation for fire
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and things like that. We're able to achieve all those things on the site as a car wash. So, again, I ‸ point back to you, there's a reason why this property hasn't been developed over the years. And it's because of the site constraints. And knowing as a planner, I lay out
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for different projects, different uses all the time.
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for me to lay out, ‸ not a retail strip center, but a project, you know, without serious concerns about not having a building as deep as a user or a lawn and those types of things, getting in the parking, engaged circulation for things like fire and fire
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Well, like I said, my compliments to the project. It's beautiful. And I hope you consider another place in Cocoa. And it might work for you and also save you money at the same time, I think. That high traffic count is what it's all about, sir. Thank you.
[00:58:05] Speaker 4
Anybody else on the board have any questions for a developer?
[00:58:08] Speaker 3
I kind of have a question.
[00:58:10] Speaker 4
Go ahead.
[00:58:11] Speaker 3
What is the city's vision for that corner?
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I'm sorry.
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I can answer the question.
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What is the vision that the city has for that corner?
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on the current zone that is there today.
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what it is encouraging there.
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that CP zone and you look at things that are allowed within that zone. And I really think that it is one of the more limited zones. It doesn't have a lot of uses in it. And I do think that that is the vision that that city council has ‸ set for us. Um, and the items that they would like to see, um, in that area based on the input of their constituents and the basically residents of diamond square and the cocoa village. Um, and I can pull it back up for you. I can just read them to you really quickly too. That's
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really, but
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I guess my question is I've been here a long time and that corner has not changed except for the size. I
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but
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whatever it's called now, who knows. But that 90% of the time is sitting there empty. There's nothing there. You've got the old building that used to be,
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think it was,
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There was a diner that was there.
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No, I'm talking about where
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That also was a, uh, a muffler shop at one time.
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And it was a car loan place. I mean,
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the, the signs are beautiful and
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or whatever it is. But that corner is awful. The only problem I see with putting
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a car wash
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there, and I'd like to hear what, I guess you guys are neighbors of that, correct? How they feel about it, but to me that's gonna ‸ be an improvement on that corner. It's gonna ‸ be tough to get in and out of that. But it beats being an empty lot sitting there.
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because
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that was awful. So I wanted to know what
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were.
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I haven't seen anything change in years of that corner except different businesses going into the same old buildings. That was my question.
[01:01:21] Speaker 4
Any other questions from the board?
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got an answer to my question.
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I'm not sure she can give you one other than what, what is potentially
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We, we have not had anyone else inquire about this particular site.
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So the North West corner is currently for sale. And we have had some interest from various parties looking at that particular.
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[01:02:08] Speaker 4
Any other questions? All right. I'm gonna turn it back over to the staff. If you have any additional or rebuttals.
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yeah.
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I think you would want to open the, are you gonna open the public hearing?
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Yes. As soon as just gonna give staff an opportunity
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Sure. I think, I think that, um, the one thing that I mainly wanted to say, um, in rebuttal, and I think, obviously, I'm not sure. We'll see what the neighborhood has to say too. But, um, I think that it was stated well that, um, this area is an area that can enrich the two communities that it is meeting. Between the, the cocoa
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Mm-hm.
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I think that, um, the current, um, future land use, the current zone allows for that enrichment in a way, um, that, um,
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um, makes it more of a pass through area. Um, we kind of heard that, uh, expression used a few times. Yeah, there are
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at that intersection, ‸ which does make it desirable.
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All of us who live here, uh, in cocoa, see that as a part of the neighborhood. Um, people from outside the area, see it as a pass through. So I think that is a difference that we have before us today.
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All right.
[01:03:50] Speaker 4
All right. I'm going to open it up to the public. Uh, I have quite a few cards here. So we're going to limit the, um, time to three minutes. And I think we're going to do a group swearing in. So we don't have to do it every single time.
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Okay. So, um, we don't need to do a swearing
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consensus with the board that you're going to impose the three minutes.
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Yes, of course. Yeah. Is the board okay with limited to three minutes?
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I second the three minute limit. Yeah. Just so we can get through everybody.
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Yeah. Okay.
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as I got the cards, ‸ that's how I'm going to present it to the. And understand that three minutes seems to go by pretty quickly and, and,
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be conscious that if we're all saying the same thing, just understand that, you know, we want to try not to be redundant, but, um, everybody will get their opportunity to speak.
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Um, last name is Bryant.
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It does not fit. The project does not fit within the current zoning. And the, um, request for rezoning to be denied. Um,
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the square
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a project that, um, is not turning basically the backside to the community, but something that would allow our interaction with our community and benefit our community and support our community as well.
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and there must be a way to, um, have a happy marriage where our community is not sealed off and alienated, but actually included
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Butler.
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It does not fit within the project. The project does not fit within the current zoning as it's been stated by the staff and the developers. Okay. And she thinks that it should be a project that's going to be open to the community because it's so close to the community center.
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the community or add to the community in the way that we would like it. ‸ Thank you very much.
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Nate Hooks.
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Good evening.
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I ask you to follow the direction of
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that has denied this ‸ request.
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increase
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in crime
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because people are going to hang out around the car wash. And that's going ‸ to endanger the young people that attend night services at those three churches within 500 or 600
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look at the long-range crime problem
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‸ one church is only approximately 300 feet from the subject property.
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shell. The second ‸ church is
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Moriah A&M,
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which
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on
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feet from the subject property. And then the largest church in the area, Greater St. Paul Missionary Baptist, is approximately 700 feet from the subject property. Right
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Baptist Church. And if that project
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walking back and forth within 500 to 600 feet. So I urge you to deny the request and do not change the zoning. Thank you so much.
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My problem is not so much with the
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I would be opposed to whatever ‸ business that you want to put in that area. The problem I have is how you acquire that property to start with. That property is created by taking the main thoroughfare in our community away from us. Shutting off at a time when our community is supposed to be under development.
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to be in the motion of helping us develop our community.
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our community.
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And
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off that street to create the property that we're talking about here tonight. As far as I'm concerned, you are dealing with a property that is ill-gotten.
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You take a property
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away from a low income community and create a $2.5 million property that will do nothing for our community. When we need all kinds of help. And one of the main situations is that the property is on our side of US 1. But
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The downtown CRA gets all of that.
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It jumps over US 1. And it gets revenue from all of those businesses. So from a property that you would create from taking away from our community. You would take that revenue from that $2.5 million property.
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And our community continues to get nothing. That's my problem. So I wouldn't care what kind of business
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was trying to put there. We have not accepted the closing of our street. We still want it open. It was gotten ill-gotten.
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community while it was trying to acquire the property.
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Thank you Mr. Mohammed. To get
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our streets back over. Thank you.
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Thanks. Meredith Lidstone.
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My name is Meredith Lidstone.
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to the voice of objections to approving the zoning change. I've heard a lot from the people that are pushing it forward. And it makes me think that they think they're doing us a favor by putting this white monstrosity on the corner of what should be a gateway. If we're going to call it a gateway, let's make it a gateway.
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‸ We can plan for it, right? That's what you guys do. You plan for things and you work towards them.
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ain't worth nothing.
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Well ‸ it's worth nothing. If nothing could go on it, why does it cost people worth $5 million to begin with? And why are we pushing to force this on a community that doesn't want it? Now
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Dakota's car wash because she has created a community.
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And it was an absolute pleasure. She took a narrow strip of land right along the railroad tracks and I would drive back and forth and I'd be like, man, that place is hopping. Look at that. They've got outdoor seating. They've got tents. They have people. It is a community. It's a treasure. And how many cities can say that of car wash? That is a treasure. Someone came in with a vision, took that land, and made it a place where people want to go. I'm not going to go to the Mod Wash.
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heard about this and I see they've got six or seven locations open ‸ in the state.
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Coco says coming soon on their website. What does that mean? Does that mean this is just a dress rehearsal before you vote? Because what I'm hearing from my fellow citizens is they do not want this. And
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And I don't want the gateway to Coco to be a used car lot,
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sign, although it's a very cool sign. I think the sign should be moved if anything ever happens to that property.
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And a vape shop. I think you should be working towards making it a gateway. Maybe reimagining that intersection because the other problem we have is the one entrance on US 1. What are people going to do? They're going to make a U-turn coming north. What are people going to do coming from the west? They're going to swoosh around right on red and they're not
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going to stop because we know how US 1
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is. We
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know how
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that intersection is. It is one of the most dangerous intersections in this city and this county.
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killed, a pedestrian being hit? And we want to put this in the middle. And I do not support it. I would like to see responsible, sustained growth that benefits all of us, not just a few who think they're doing us a favor because they are not. There's a better use for this. Thank you.
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Kristen Lordy.
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I spoke on this last month. I still feel the same. I sent you my comments last month. I sent you my comments this month. The position hasn't changed. I did review the materials, and I wanted to give the applicant a chance and say in their material, talk about the tax base, the contextually appropriateness of the proposed project, saying that there won't be any increase in traffic, that it will be aesthetically improving. And I want to acknowledge what they've said, but I want to say that I
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moving forward and uplifting. And I want to mention something that the applicant had talked about was division, and what is
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the vision.
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And I would like to bring out something that is in the land use on the Florida Statutes about
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that I would be very supportive of, and perhaps other people in this room would be very supportive of. It says under policies where it's encouraging the land use and the mixed use land use has a lot of great language in this, by the way, that's in the agenda documentation. But under policies it says to promote and encourage communities to engage in a redesign step to include public participation of members of the community in envisioning redevelopment goals
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to have the economic team development that wants to do that.
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I'll be happy to reach out to those businesses and to say, hey, come on and see us.
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about what we can imagine there that serves.
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That's
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to me, the gateway between the two different redevelopment zones. How can we create that corridor?
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it kind of
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into the property.
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our space? And I encourage the staff in doing that.
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very happy to see this.
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on this, Under mixed use says to enhance the livability and character of urban areas through encouragement of an attractive and functional mix of living, working, shopping, and recreational activities. And up above it talks about developing a bicycle pedestrian master plan to provide interconnectivity of residential and commercial areas, to promote the bicycle and pedestrian. traffic as an alternative to the automobile and promotion of lead design and new construction. So I hear a lot of corridor ideas, you know, and how can we blend our communities? You know, when I drive there, you sit at the intersection and you're kind of in
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desert. Let's create a corridor. Thank you.
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Reverend Wells.
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Good evening. Pastor Oliver W. Wells, Christ the King. I'm in agreement with the staff's recommendation that this particular business would be denied. There are a lot of reasons. Of course, the city's vision, of course, does not take
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what
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And it may seem like a dead horse, but it almost adds, and I hope you can, this planning and zoning board can understand,
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the land in that area has been really taken from you in a large extent. And then somebody
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comes in to
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and powerfully, that you have nothing to do with it. Obviously, and I agree with Mr. Greenwood, it may be a good project in some
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But at this time, leave this
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entrance to Diamond Square and this area of Diamond Square. Leave that alone. Leave that alone. And we just think it would be best that it be denied. Thank you. Thank you.
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Stephanie Gallen.
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to put the car
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place, and all that there. I think if you put something in for the community,
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or something over there,
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community because there are a lot of people over there that don't even have
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to watch, they walk. So
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over there to the clinic to get medical treatment and stuff like that. So I'm against it.
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Bethy.
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I have three cards from the developers.
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you guys wish to speak? Kim.
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Most of the people said it doesn't fit with
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which is why we're trying to change it. But it asks you to go back and look at what could be here. And I hate doing that. But you could have a service station here, under
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And service stations in your code have car washes. So your code is just as a type of purported code. So if they wanted to
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station with a car washer, they could do it. But again, you've seen this as a very difficult piece of property to develop. And also you have the railroad. I
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And my desk shakes from across the road, across US-1, when a train goes by. And the trains are coming by more and more.
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but it is beautiful. But again, what could be there under the special exceptions are not different from what we're asking. And again, this is a pass-by. I don't think people are going out of their way to make these perks fit here. And again, that's not a zoning issue per se. That's a site development, a site plan issue, and a traffic enforcement issue.
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But again, this is a vacant lot. It is
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lot. It's had many uses.
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for a very long time,
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that will stay. And we would ask that you consider that this parking may not be developed. We're not trying to do something for the community, but it would enhance the tax base.
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So, ‸ we would ask that you
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Brink? Yes. Okay. Daniel Tubb? All right. We're going to close it from the public. Open it back up to the board.
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I'd
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What do you see as a potential viable business wanting to go into that location? That would ‸ enhance the community. That would bring the two communities together.
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fit for that corner. But I'd also like to hear from the community, which I was hoping to hear tonight, ‸ the residents
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what do they vision would be a good fit for that corner? That would be somewhat like a partnership for your community. So, I was a little disappointed we didn't hear that, but I do hear their concerns.
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location. So, with that being said, even though I can't envision anything else actually going in that property, we have the economy changing at this time. Interest rates are rising. Inflation is rising. That property may sit there for many, many years in this current condition it's in without any interest at all. And that's a risk that I think at this time, it looks like we're going to have to take. Because it's clear the residents are not in favor of this particular business being in that location.
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So,
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go ahead Alex.
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I'd like to make a motion and deny it and accept the guidelines that the staff has provided for the development of this property, which is to deny the application.
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We have a motion. Do we have a second? We'll second. Any discussion?
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Yes. We've already noticed that the CP designation under the mixed use plan is, does not fall ‸ under the mixed use. I would like to make discussion on, if anything, if we do deny that we still make some type of change to at least make it current with the code, ‸ if that's applicable.
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Yeah, so if if the mixed use future land use is kept. Um, at that point, um, the city staff has recognized that there is an inconsistency.
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um, this has discussed a couple of those that might be, um, adding CP that's commercial parkway to the list of uses that are, uh, or list of, um, zoning districts that are allowed. Uh, that could also be rezoning it to a different, um, zoning district that is, is allowed already in mixed use.
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either by a different application or city initiated. Um,
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okay. So
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I'd like to call the question.
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All in favor, say aye.
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Aye.
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Aye. All opposed. Motion carries unanimous. Moving on to the second item. Which is kind of moot at this point, I would think it would be inappropriate to, to, um, to vote on that. What, what's your discretion on the second item? Okay.
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Yeah. Um, we, we do need to take a vote. Um, although, uh, because the recommendation is to maintain the mixed use
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land use. Um, it would not be appropriate to recommend approval of the zoning change to CG because that is our commercial.
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Um, so, um, but I, I do want to, um, make sure that we, you know, provide the, the hearing for the to the extent that they want to speak. Um, also, uh,
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‸ If there's any ex
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communication disclosures that. That, uh, need to be made by the board. So. Would you like to do that now?
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Yes.
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Okay. So, um, as the board's aware, uh, for quasi judicial matters, um, you do need to disclose if there are any, um, if you, you've received any written or oral communications, um, from interested parties outside of the hearing.
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May 3rd. Um, and that was to, I believe almost all of the members of the board. I think it was the same one expressing, um, support for denial of the, uh, zoning change.
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give her an opportunity to review it.
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has to make.
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Basically, ‸ anybody
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get any
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additional emails.
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in April at the April meeting. Um, they've been forwarded to Monica already. Um, I've also been in discussion with Monica about, um, bring something up to the public here. Um, so they, they, they have already been disclosed with Monica.
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And that's regarding the minutes.
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Uh, from
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April.
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Correct. Regarding the minutes and regarding their comments towards this property. But for the ones in April.
[01:34:38] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I believe that's the same email I just provided, but to Mr. Zinka, if I'm, is there a different email?
[01:34:47] Speaker 5
Yes. I responded to her and I let her know that, um, that any comments that needed to be made, um, you know, that I just read and stated my comments that I made in April.
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in April, um, at the meeting and then, um, that was the end of the conversation. She was just, she was asking about particular comments that, or that I made at the meeting. Correct.
[01:35:17] Speaker 2
Oh, about the hotel. Okay. Thank you.
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[01:35:26] Speaker 2
Um, for. You're opening the hearing on the rezoning. Okay. So for this one, this is where we would do the, um, the swearing in the group swearing in for anybody who intends to testify.
[01:35:39] Speaker 11
‸ Just to say, we'll pull the application.
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[01:35:43] Speaker 11
Most jurisdictions don't. They find a group. Right. Thank you.
[01:35:51] Speaker 4
All right. Okay.
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[01:35:54] Speaker 4
Other business tree board update.
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[01:36:08] Speaker 1
No. Pardon me. We do not have any other development updates at this time. We do not have a planning and zoning board meeting scheduled for June, but our next meeting would be July 7th.
[01:36:24] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice
All right. And
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Thank you.
[01:36:32] Speaker 4
Always on top of it. He's good. Open discussion on the board. Anybody have anything they'd like ‸ to bring up?
[01:36:42] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice
‸ I just like to ask the public that if they have any concerns or anything with boards and this,
[01:36:47] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · Machine re-recognized
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other that they understand that anything that is sent to us and any type of comments or statements made from us or any type of conversations made outside of the hearing still have to be disclosed.
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[01:37:09] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice
I just ask that any comments and questions or anything like that they have for the board be sent through planning and zoning department at the city. They have, they have, and always do contact us in regards to these concerns. Um, we all on the board have daily lives as well.
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of the board, uh, outside of the meetings. Um, like, you know, uh, so I just, I asked that any, for any requests or any conversations be led through planning and zoning department during city hours or to their official
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[01:37:46] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice
Um,
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[01:37:46] Speaker 5
then we'll get them and of course we'll bring them up at the board.
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[01:37:51] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Ed,
[01:37:52] Speaker 15
thank you, sir. Um, I thought that we, as a board, it was recommended that we do not discuss anything that's going to be presented to the board unless it's at the board meeting. Now, I wanted clarification on that
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that's being presented and discussed should be done to a regular recorded meeting.
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[01:38:25] Speaker 15
Um,
[01:38:26] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
that's correct. I mean, there is. So
[01:38:29] Speaker 15
the point I'm making is that there really should be no communication at all, except when we have a meeting here. With the public?
[01:38:38] Speaker 2
Well,
[01:38:40] Speaker 15 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I get
[01:38:40] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
the board. To clarify, yeah, on quasi judicial items, which the majority of what you hear, uh, the applications that you hear are quasi judicial. Um, yeah, it is not encouraged that you would be speaking with, um, members of the public about those items. Or
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the
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applicants. Or the applicants. Because you're, um, supposed to be making your decisions based on the evidence that's presented to you at the hearing.
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Presented during the
[01:39:08] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
meeting. Yes. Now, the citizens are certainly able to submit comments. Right.
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[01:39:18] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
can submit those, um, just as easily to the planning and zoning department and they can be forwarded to the board and the applicant, you know, with, with your meeting materials. So certainly,
[01:39:30] Attribution uncertain
um,
[01:39:31] Speaker 2
you know, they can present their comments that way.
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[01:39:38] Speaker 2
comment on the item.
[01:39:41] Speaker 15
Thank you.
[01:39:45] Speaker 4
Any other discussion? Entertain a motion to adjourn.
[01:39:50] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I second. Oh, I, I motion that we adjourn. You're
[01:39:56] Speaker 15 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
that anxious?
[01:39:57] Speaker 15 + overlapping voice · Machine re-recognized
Susan?
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[01:39:58] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
We have a second. All
[01:39:59] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
in favor.
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[01:40:00] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Aye. All opposed. Motion carries.
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[01:40:08] Speaker 5
She wants to go home and eat. She's hungry.
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Okay.
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You'll be back again to hear over the spot.
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for me.
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Oh,
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thank
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you. How are you doing?
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