having and if I can I'm gonna if I can I'd like to have a chief just do a brief
of invocation for us and then have the deputy mayor lead us in pledge and then
we'll just go ahead and resume and get moving
that lead to the United States of America which is
This stands one nation, from God, indivisible, for liberty and justice for all.
Roll call, please.
Mayor Williams?
Here.
Deputy Mayor Goins?
Here.
Council Member Beauvais?
Here.
Council Member Koss?
Here.
Council Member Warner?
Here.
City Attorney Garganese?
Here. Telephonically.
Interim City Manager Fuhrer?
Here.
Thank you.
Thank you, ma'am.
Mr. City Manager.
Okay. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of council.
You may recall this workshop was originally scheduled for March 17th.
It was delayed until May 6th.
We're in a little bit different situation now with running this meeting electronically,
and so we do have it available for comments online as well if we have citizens that want to engage us.
So with that, I would like to cover the agenda for this meeting.
First, we're going to start with the background of the general fund sustainability model as it relates to last year's Stantec projection.
We're going to review the fiscal year 2020 budget to date, prior budget year philosophies, fund balance, reserves, and policy.
We're going to review the revenue challenges due to the revenue challenges due to external factors, specifically related to COVID-19.
Those revenue projections.
Then based off of that, we will cover, do some comments from City Council last year as far as the initial CIP requests of what came in.
We'll review those and then where we're headed with those so you can see the changes and the recommendations.
We also did some additional analysis on grant availability for those capital improvement plans and master plans,
and then we will solicit budget priorities and engage in that discussion with members of council,
and then the gain of preliminary consensus on the millage rate, fire assessment, stormwater assessment, utility rates,
as we move into the development of this fiscal year 2021 budget.
And then finally review the budget calendar, of which the dates are set currently, but what we're finding in most jurisdictions,
as well as ourself, due to the revenue trends and accounting for up-to-date revenues,
we're going to constantly be monitoring those as we move through this process and making adjustments as necessary.
So to start with, the City continues to maintain responsible fiscal management through the CAFR award.
You can see that there in the Distinguished Budget award.
Reviewing the City's credit ratings, the City's general fund still maintains a AA-2 rating.
What we did receive in an update there March 23rd was that Standard & Poor's reassessed our utility fund,
and they did downgrade it from a AA-positive to a AA-stable.
And the reason for that was they were looking at the potential impacts of COVID-19 related to our utility's ability to recover that revenue.
And we're going to talk about that a little bit later in the presentation, about what we're seeing as far as actuals.
So their assessment may not be true at this point.
Okay, as we are in the current fiscal year 2020, we did contract with Stantec last year to project for this current fiscal year that we're in,
to make a determination on projecting costs and ensuring that our expenditures are in line with what their projections were.
And we've validated and updated the assumptions that they have within their model.
We updated the cost allocation, and that being those costs for services from our various utility funds,
water, sewer, stormwater, for the services that are provided through the General Fund for Finance, HR, IT, Fleet, all those support services.
We also evaluated the utility rates annually as we do.
There is a full rate study underway this year.
We also evaluated the millage and fire assessment rates annually that will continue.
And then in addition to that, the stormwater rate.
We modified the methodology of collection and then updated those projections based on that.
And we have reviewed the capital funding through General Fund Balance Reserves.
There's a few projects listed on there that are currently underway to include the Dr. Jolie Smith Center to be completed in June 2020.
The Lee Winter Park and Riverfront Park restoration due to Hurricane Irma.
That's projected for July 2020.
And then the Fisk Boulevard streetscape with an estimated completion of 2021.
And that project has been delayed due to our submission to the hazard mitigation grant program through the state.
And they've continued to ask for supplemental information.
We've provided it.
And we do anticipate a final resolution or award on that project here in the near future.
Yes, sir.
I noticed that you didn't, and I know you've asked that over to me, you didn't have a most Pineda.
Yes, Pineda is later in the slides.
We've got that on there.
But yes, there's $500,000 included in this year's budget for Pineda, of which that work should be underway here shortly.
The General Fund Fiscal Sustainability Analysis by Stantec.
You can see this was the model that we used when we were building last year's budget.
It projects a fairly significant amount of CIP spending in 2018, 2019, and then it drastically drops off there in 2020 as those projects that I mentioned drop off of the list.
And so what you can see as importance on this slide is really the cash in and the cash out.
And what we saw as a projection is a very close variance in the early years, and then in the out years there starts to be some separation.
And so that was viewed as being within our control in those out years, 9 and 10, to where we have plenty of time to make adjustments as well as evaluate economic factors that would influence that.
This is our current year snapshot, mid-year snapshot, as of March 31st.
You can view the accounts there.
You receive this monthly through your council agendas as an informational.
Important to note is that this is through March 31st, and COVID, the Safer at Home order, went into effect March 23rd.
So everything as it appears on this trends as we would normally see it as far as revenues and expenditures.
What we're going to find, though, is that – and we're going to talk about it more in depth – is that some of the revenues that we receive specifically from the state tend to trend about two months behind when they actually occur.
And so we won't expect to see any of those actuals until potentially June.
But for these purposes, at mid-year, everything seems to be as normal, but we know that will not be the case.
Just a brief overview of the general fund balance reserves.
We have a policy within our financial operations manual that's adopted by City Council that establishes that restricted general fund balance.
And that minimum reserve requirement of 33 percent of total operating expenditures and $500,000 of capital replacement.
Those numbers are calculated every year with the city's capper when the audited numbers come in.
And then those percentages are taken from the operating and then determined what the city needs to put into that account to ensure that we are meeting that policy.
And at the last city council meeting, we did just that.
We brought the number forward.
It added an additional $1.7 million into that fund, which is really good policy, especially considering the situation that we may find ourselves in.
Those reserves that are not restricted are to be used for capital or one-time expenses only.
And should you choose to fund reoccurring expenses out of them, it would lead to a long-term financial position that may cause you to seek that stabilization fund.
If you were to access that stabilization fund, as we look at uncertain economic times, there may be some questions as to, you know, if we were to tap into that, what are the impacts?
Well, what you would have to consider is that at such time that you draw funds from that reserve, that you need to establish how you're going to replenish those funds.
And as we're looking at times when folks are having a hard time meeting their utility bills, paying for food,
we could be in a position where we would have to raise revenues through the millage rate, fire assessment, or some other means that could add additional financial hardship.
And so it's really important when we look at this to utilize those fund balances as most judiciously as possible,
especially when considering the emergency response that may be pending yet this year.
As we enter hurricane season, we're still dealing with the pandemic.
And so there is an amount in that unrestricted category that's available to spend.
And it's really at that point, facing what we're facing, that that should remain intact, get through the hurricane season,
see if we get the reimbursements from FEMA related to Hurricane Irma,
and then evaluate it at that time if there are catalytic projects that we would choose to invest in.
Okay, and then just the results of the CAFR, which will be, I believe this Friday,
you each have individual meetings with our contracted auditor, where they will cover this in more detail with you.
But based on that, you know, the stabilization fund that was just increased at the last city council meeting now sits at $12,288,375.
We have 6.2 roughly assigned within that fund balance, and then there's unassigned a 5.2 million.
Now that's as of the CAFR.
That doesn't include expenses that are in this current year's budget.
Down below, you see in the fiscal year budget, the current budget, there's a projected use of fund balance of $2.4 million,
leaving a total of $2.7 million in that unrestricted.
And that's what I just mentioned as far as really cautiously approaching that delta of where you'd be tapping into,
potentially, that stabilization fund.
So we really want to carefully observe that.
Within that dollar amount, that $2.4, there's Pineda Street, $500,000.
The annual street paving and sidewalks, $330,000.
There was the full electric vehicle purchase, which was the Chevy Bolt for the code enforcement division.
You had the separation agreement with the city manager.
You had the budget rollover from fiscal year 2019.
That encompasses a number of projects, whether capital projects or planning projects,
that carried over the fiscal year that those dollars were rolled over into fiscal year 2020.
There's two railroad crossings.
That's from Florida East Coast Railway.
They evaluate those crossings about every five years.
They look for replacement.
Since their tracks were present before our roads, we're responsible for that maintenance.
And that maintenance cost varies depending on each crossing as lanes are wider and there's certain configurations and design standards that they have to meet.
And so what they had projected for us was $209,000.
We did work with them, and they came back and said due to the timing of the Virgin Trains rail line construction,
that they would be able to defer those costs and incorporate it when they redesign and lay the second set of tracks and modify them.
You can see the work cart for $15,000.
That was for the downtown crew.
That was the electric four-wheeler.
And then also the police fire system for IT in the training room, and that was a fire inspection,
the result of a fire inspection to provide adequate suppression in the IT room.
As we talk about the potential impacts of COVID-19, the governor issued that safer at home order March 23rd,
and that extended until this Monday or May 4th.
And so that had a significant impact on several revenue sources that the city receives, to include the state shared revenues.
As we all know, a majority of the revenue that the state of Florida receives without that personal income tax,
they heavily rely on state sales tax.
And so with that safer at home order, commerce almost came to a halt.
And so those revenues that the state typically receives dried up rather quickly.
And those revenues are shared with local governments through various formulas based on population and other items.
And what we did receive on Monday was the state released the numbers in March for their sales tax revenue.
And while they don't receive, they received the top 100.
They could verify that.
Some are still received, you know, within the next month.
So they don't have all the final numbers.
But their estimate currently is a loss of 25 percent in March alone.
And that, of course, the safer at home order going into effect that final week of March.
So we have a pretty good idea of that impact.
And what that means in dollar terms is approximately $750 million to the state.
So it is pretty significant.
You have also the local sales tax, local gas tax, local business tax.
And we will touch on the budgeted as well as actual numbers on each of these accounts so you can get an idea of what we have currently.
And then we will continue to track these accounts and submit them to you in a report monthly so you can see them as they come in in real time to really understand the city's financial picture.
Building permits.
Of course, you know, with the safer at home order, there, you know, may be some reductions in building permits, middles.
We haven't found that to be the case.
I can tell you that right now.
In fact, we're almost meeting our projected budget at this point in time.
So that's a good thing.
The future is what the concern would be on that one.
And then penalties, what that is, those are the late fees for those, for the water accounts.
The billing is currently out of the city's general fund.
And so any waiver of those fees comes back and impacts the general fund to the tune of about $60,000 a month.
And so that is an additional impact.
So what we currently know about COVID-19 is that the economic impact of this is really unprecedented.
And there's very little data to suggest what may occur from this.
It's been referred to as sort of like a hibernation of the economy and then a wake up.
And the question would be, how are we going to wake up?
Are we coming right back to where we were?
Are we slowly waking up?
And so there's a lot of work being done on that currently.
And we have a presentation from public trust advisors John Grady, who's also on the line.
And I want to cut over, he's got a brief presentation to give you an up-to-date analysis on what we're looking at.
At more of a macro level for the potential impacts of COVID-19.
John, are you on the line?
John, are you there?
I'm going to use his phone.
John?
Well, he was there when he started.
So what we can do, we can – we'll work to get him on the line, but we'll continue with the presentation, then we'll come back.
So he's going to provide an overall high-level view of what we're looking at from an economic impact.
And then what we need to consider here locally, in addition to those sales tax revenues, building permits, and fees that we're losing currently, is also what is the long-term impact of property values?
There's a lot of information out there right now suggesting that it wouldn't be as significant as the 08 recession.
But they really don't know, because there's a lot of fallout coming from the unemployment side of things.
And depending on how quickly those businesses reopen and how many they employ are really going to signal where we're going in the future.
For instance, as you consider Disney in central Florida, while they're more in the Orlando market, they have an impact on cocoa in the central Florida region.
They employ close to 70,000 employees that the majority of them have been furloughed or laid off.
But what's really missing from that segment is not only are those employees unemployed, but they have many contracts with professional services that aren't being performed right now.
And so that economic impact is even wider than what you may think of in terms of just employees laid off.
And so that's something that we need to continue to watch.
Yes, ma'am.
Yeah, so the port, they also have Disney cruise lines that move out of the port.
We have a number of businesses in the city that offer parking for the port that, you know, at this point in time are vacant because they're not actually sending out cruise ships per CDC guidelines.
And I did see some information that I believe in August, Carnival Cruise Lines is working to run a cruise out of Port Canaveral.
So depending on the timing of that.
So they're overall impacts, but they can afford to do the big impact.
Certainly.
Yeah, I mean, they certainly provide a regional impact, even beyond just the cove and what's located, you know, in close proximity to them.
It's a huge economic engine for not only the county, but the state.
And so, you know, it's my understanding the majority of their revenue is based off of the cruise passenger industry.
And so they're certainly looking at some pretty dire economic times, I would imagine.
Yes, John.
And Matt, I could – I'm sorry.
Yeah, we've been hearing that. Can you just hold me?
Go ahead, sir.
And I can add that something that really concerned me was the timing of the stimulus checks and when they distributed those checks.
Because those checks, a lot of those checks came out at a time where, you know, people weren't shutting off your electric.
They weren't shutting off your water.
They still aren't doing it at this time.
And that if you really wanted to boost your economy, those checks probably should have come out, you know, once you start to reopen your cities and so forth and so on.
And that would have been a drive and forth to get people out.
You know, I just – but anyway, I just – oh, what a view.
The farm.
Yeah.
I don't know if this is good.
You know, I don't think.
I don't know if it was good.
It wasn't vital to – a lot of people –
but some of the countries didn't mean to buy births or not, but we probably should have looked at what some other countries did
and instead of shoving money into some of the things that are talking about,
and so the countries just continue to provide salaries to people that are working,
for those businesses that are working and pay for the salaries so that that money stays loosely,
because a one-time check of $1200 doesn't really do a lot.
Yeah.
40 times.
That's not –
Yeah, and, you know, a program like the Payment Protection Program.
Those funds were gone almost immediately.
That covered eight weeks of potential payroll, and, you know, we're to that point, I think, six weeks in here in Florida, so.
And some of those dollars didn't get to where it was intended to go.
It stopped.
Yes.
We definitely have to work.
It's a phenomenal lesson.
That's right.
And it's my understanding we have John Grady, Public Trust Advisors, on the line.
John, are you there?
Good morning.
This is John Grady.
Can you all hear me okay now?
Yes, sir.
Yes.
I have your slide show up, and I can scroll through it as you talk, if you just let me know when you want me to transition.
Thank you very much.
Thank you all for the time this morning to provide an update.
Before we start, I just – mayor, members of the council, I want to thank you for the opportunity.
And also, I hope everyone – the city and your families are staying safe and healthy in these unprecedented times.
And I believe I was there in January, so not too long ago.
And as we all know, the world has changed quite a bit since then.
And so I spoke with the phone, and she asked me to put together a few slides to give a high-level update on the economy and what's going on out there.
And so with that, I will jump into this presentation.
I will try to pause periodically if you have questions for me or certainly be available at the end.
I know with the availability of news, many of you have seen the information that's coming that I'm going to present today.
But hopefully we'll give you a little perspective and our thoughts on that.
So thank you for forwarding the slides.
If we could jump over to slide three, please.
Yep.
And this slide, the heading is the Great Lockdown.
What this is showing is the growth projections for the global economy, as you can see on the left, and then it breaks it out by advancing emerging markets.
But really the focus here, these are projections from the International Monetary Fund.
These were as of April.
You can see there from 2019 at 2.9 percent global growth.
This year, that's projected negative 3 percent growth.
So obviously not great news as a result of the shutdown here in the United States as well as globally.
If there is a silver lining, and I think this comment was made a little earlier regarding the level and speed and timing of the recovery,
the IMF is currently projecting the potential growth of 5.8 percent in 2021.
Of course, there is so much uncertainty right now with the depth and the length of the current recession that we're in, likely to be in.
As to what that growth will be, of course, we do know that it's going to have significant impacts here in the near term.
But the thought is that once these economies reemerge, that there would be a potentially faster recovery with this type of a recession,
as opposed to a purely economic recession.
And so looking at the next slide on 4, comparing the projected decline in global growth of negative 3 percent,
slide 4 shows us the comparison of the great lockdown of 2020 as being called, among other things,
and comparing that to the global contraction from the crisis that happened in 2008 and 2009.
So you can see there is a significant larger decrease in global growth as a result of this pandemic versus what we saw from the crisis in 2008-2009.
And again, I think the hope is really across the board that while this could potentially be much deeper in the near term,
that the recovery could potentially be much faster than what we saw after the crisis.
And I think we've got a couple of charges here to really show the time frame of how much, how quickly things have changed.
And so looking at slide 5, the first reading of U.S. GDP was just released here in the last few days.
And what this is showing us is really quarterly GDP, or economic growth, here in the U.S. over the last few years.
And not unexpectedly, we saw a contraction in the U.S. economy in the first quarter, according to the first reading of minus 4.8 percent.
And of course, that would be led by the consumer.
And so if we look at this chart and look at the far right-hand side, we can see the dark blue bar.
And I highlighted the consumer spending contraction of minus 5.26 percent.
And that was, of course, a majority.
But we also had negative or contraction of negative growth in the investment in inventory.
And one key takeaway from that is even going into the first quarter of 2020, if we look back over the prior three quarters,
you see those gray bars that are actual contractors.
So businesses that actually started to slow their spending in building new plants
and spending money to get products to the shelves in anticipation of some slowdown,
given the fact that we were in the longest expansion in U.S. history, spanning 10 years plus.
So there was already a contraction in investment in inventories.
And then, of course, as we, the consumer, here starting in March in particular, stopped spending,
we can see that dramatic impact here in the first quarter.
And given that this was really just a full month of consumer spending in January and February
were likely very positive for consumer spending,
that number will likely get dramatically worse here in the second quarter
in hopes that in the second half of 2020, again, we would hope to start entering into a recovery phase.
But it really remains to be seen as so much uncertainty out there.
And so as we got into the pandemic, and we can see here on slide six,
as many of you I'm sure know very well, we saw the market go into a tailspin in mid to late March
with the S&P and Dow hitting lows actually on March 23rd.
And if we look at the peak in February of those two indices to the bottom in March 23rd,
those indices have dropped by 33 and 37 percent.
Significant drop.
And during that time, interest rates also plummeted, starting with the Fed cutting the overnight rate from one and a half to zero
through two meetings of emergency rate cuts.
I think that was mentioned a little earlier today as well.
But on March 3rd, the Fed cut 50 basis points.
And then as things got progressively worse through March, on March 15th, the Fed went ahead on another emergency meeting
and cut that rate all the way to that zero to 25 basis point range,
effectively bringing us back to what's called that zero interest rate policy.
And that, if you'll remember, is what happened during the great financial crisis, great recession.
And that rate is kept at zero to 25 basis point range for about seven years.
So if anyone's guess at this point how long the Fed would keep that rate close to zero,
you may have even heard conversations of whether or not they would consider pushing the rate negative.
There's a lot of debate on that.
It doesn't seem to be on the table at the moment.
But given everything else the Fed has done, you know, really all bets are off.
And on slide six, just looking at what took place and what will continue to likely take place here in 2020
from the Fed balance sheet perspective, that blue line shows us the balance sheet going back to just before the crisis on the far left,
where they've maintained approximately $800 billion in assets on their balance sheet.
And then as we all remember, through the crisis, really through the early recovery phase that started in 2010,
the Fed continued to increase their balance sheet through those quantitative easing programs.
And as you can see, as we move across from left to right, building that balance sheet up to close to $4.5 trillion and keeping it there for a few years.
And then in 2018, making the decision to actually start to wind down the balance sheet as the economy was continuing to move along.
And then, as you all know, most recently with the implementation of multiple buying programs from the Fed, moving that rate up – I'm sorry, moving the balance sheet up to what is projected to be $9 trillion,
potentially $10 trillion, really just by the end of 2020.
I don't want to be too long with it here, so I'll move along, but please let me know if you have questions as we go through.
How is that impacted?
Of course, we all know the big story, and this is shown on slide seven, is the labor market.
You know, the labor markets have been doing very well, and actually hit 50-year lows just prior to the pandemic, and that reversed very dramatically.
As you can see here in March, payrolls declined by $701,000.
That's likely a very favorable number compared to what we'll see in coming months.
As you look down on slide seven to the bottom chart, you can see those yellow dots really just – those illustrate the weekly initial claims,
and they peep on March 20th at close to $6.9 million of new claims, but continue to see very dramatic amounts of initial unemployment.
And those blue bars show what the total was just really from February through April 20th, and as you can see, 31.6 million jobs lost just in a matter of, you know, call it eight weeks,
and most of those lost in a matter of just a few weeks in March.
And to put that in perspective, the economy picked up around 22 million jobs in 10 years,
following the Great Recession, so between probably January 2020 through the end of 2019,
picked up 22 million jobs, and we lost all of that plus an additional 9 million jobs in just a matter of a week.
So very, very dramatic, and I think a comment was made earlier as well by one of the council members that, you know,
this unemployment is going to be arguably the biggest issue on how fast folks can get back to work,
because as we know, we as consumers make up a good two-thirds, three-quarters of the economy,
and if we're not working, the economy is not going to grow.
So turning to just a couple of highlights, as this economic information starts to come out,
and just as a point of reference, it really wasn't until late April and now into May
that we're going to start to see these numbers start to really start to show their impact.
retail sales, just to show you the decline from February to March, negative 5.8 percent again,
that is likely to drop dramatically.
Now, you can see this chart in particular back to compare to the Great Recession,
and just to show us, in that Great Recessionary timeframe,
we had a significant amount of time in negative retail sales,
and that was really what hindered sort of stronger growth during that period.
So this is one of those charts that we can reference, and we'll see as time goes on,
how long will we have negative retail sales and other negative consumer spending indications.
If it's longer, then obviously that would result in a longer timeframe for a recovery.
If we get folks back to work and or through stimulus,
putting these funds into people's bank accounts and they can spend that,
then that may provide the ability to recover faster than if those stimulus funds were not there.
And then just looking at the bottom, it's no surprise.
Consumer confidence is plummeting as well, as we can see in February,
just over 100 and falling to 71 in April, and again, likely to see that number drop again.
So consumer confidence, the lowest it's been in seven years.
And then just a couple of slides to wrap up my comments,
and of course be available for questions or discussion.
As we look over to slide nine, this just shows us through this quarter,
the last time we saw interest rates were around 1.5%.
They had fallen by half.
If we go back to November of 18, rates in the two-year area were closer to 3%.
Overnight rates were 2.5%, and we're now very close to zero.
In fact, the two-year is trading where we see this chart today.
The two-year is actually right around that same rate at 18 basis points.
And we also, as you might all recall, in late March,
the three-month key bill actually traded at negative yield for about eight trading sessions.
So really unprecedented.
And that was, again, just a result of both the U.S. and global market purchases
really making a rush to liquidity in state havens.
And that's why you saw those rates plummet as the price of those treasury bonds went up.
They have recovered somewhat.
Three-month key bill today is trading around seven basis points.
So, again, rates across the board extremely low and likely to be there for some time.
And then on slide 10, just quickly, this just shows, focusing on the blue line,
the implied rate for the overnight rate is at 0.072.
So really what this is just showing is that the thought is that overnight rate will likely be at 0 into early 2021
and likely much longer than that.
So we'll have to see how the recovery, when that does take place, how fast,
and, again, how strong that might be.
And then last couple slides just quickly, just showing us, again,
the dramatic decline in rates over the quarter.
And then just on 12, what 12 is showing us is where the blue line is showing us
where rates are today approximately.
And then showing you that orange line just slightly higher at 22 basis points.
But then you can see out to the five-year rate of 48 basis points.
So if there is, again, any positive news to this, even though rates are projected to be lower,
if we start to see a positive flow for higher yields as we move out along the yield curve,
that is a signal that the market is anticipating economic growth,
and that would be a positive sign to see that the yield curve.
Although this will just show you what markets are thinking about today
and really it's anyone's guess as we move through the next several weeks with earnings
and, again, how quickly people are able to get back to work.
So that's a bit of an economic – let me – I'll just make one comment
and certainly be available to answer any other questions.
I would – I think it's important to mention to you, especially since our last presentation,
that even with all the volatility in the markets from both the equity markets
and the fixed income markets, this is why public funds are invested in fixed income securities,
is that you can hold these securities and not worry about having to sell them necessarily at a loss
like you would in equity or other investment types.
And even though rates have come to zero, you've got a very liquid portfolio.
Your book yield of your overall better program is about 1.26 percent.
So not the best rate as we've seen historically,
but certainly better than the close to zero rates that you would earn today.
And that portfolio securities is very highly rated, again, liquid,
and they will provide, at least in the near term, additional net income for you as you look forward,
at least in the near term.
Now as we look to reinvest those as they mature, of course we'll be reinvesting at lower rates.
And so we'll work with Ms. Bowman and her team and provide indications of projected interest rates as we look forward.
I know that was a lot.
I hope that was informative.
And Ms. Bowman let me know if there's anything I may have missed that you'd like me to cover,
but I'll pause here for any questions or discussion.
Does anyone have any questions?
Yeah.
We also have stock investments.
We have a stock fund.
No?
Oh, this is what?
Well, it's a very good deal.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah.
These are all fixed income securities, as Ms. Bowman mentioned,
and all could be held to maturity and paying interest in along the way.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate it.
All right.
If there are no more questions, thank you, John, for that information.
Thank you very much, Councilman, Mr. Mayor.
And if you'd like me to have any other follow-up conversations with you,
please let me know and I'll be available.
Sure will.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay.
And then to pick up where we were,
related to this pandemic,
there's still questions remaining,
even though we've entered the Phase 1 of the reopening here in Florida,
is how long is this going to continue to provide impacts?
And then are we going to see isolated number of cases rise quickly?
And then localized efforts made to contain those?
Is there going to be a major second wave in the fall, as some have described?
And so there's a lot of unknown.
We're not out of the woods related to just the impacts of the pandemic,
let alone the economic impacts.
And so we're going to continue to monitor that as well.
So the unemployment rates that we have, it was at 2.8% in February.
This is for the state of Florida.
And then in March, 4.3%.
That doesn't account for what we've seen since then.
And so the latest statistics from the Department of Economic Opportunity was that since March,
4.2% of the labor force had entered unemployment.
And here locally in Brevard County, 12,000 claims.
Now, if you've paid attention to any of the headlines,
there are a number of folks that are still having challenges registering for unemployment.
So those numbers, you know, are still potentially a shadow of what they may be.
We don't really know at this point in time.
And then I just wanted to mention as well some information that came out late yesterday.
Locally, the Brevard County Commission, some of you are aware that through the CARES Act that was authorized,
Brevard County had received approximately $105 million to disperse in accordance with that act within their local jurisdiction.
Now, the county commission considered a number of items at their meeting yesterday.
As far as what are we going to do with the funding consistent with those guidelines.
And they approved use of up to $4.4 million of those funds for housing rental, mortgage assistance,
utility and security deposit, food stability for individuals impacted by COVID-19.
There's still a lot of discussions occurring related to what are we doing with the rest of the funding.
And so we're pretty certain that an amount of that funding will go back towards the personal protection items that not only the county has taken to protect their employees as well as the public,
but also ours.
And so we are working with them on providing those numbers to them as well as estimated numbers all the way through December.
And so I can add, which was a little confusing because if you, if you had seen the meeting,
it gives you an impression that they seem to think that this is their money.
And that they don't understand this need to be distributed throughout the cities and towns and villages in Brevard County.
And hopefully they're going to get that message from some of the mayors and city managers if it comes down to it.
Yes, sir.
And here in Brevard County, we're actually pretty fortunate related to that because the top 12 most populous counties in the state received a direct allocation of funding to include Brevard County.
Now, you know, if you're in Indian River County, you didn't receive an allocation.
You have to go through the state individually to receive any of that funding.
And so whether it's with Brevard County or the state, I do feel that we're a little bit more fortunate and that we have some local control over that.
And so we are continuing to work with them to identify areas that would benefit our local economies as we move forward.
This sheet right here was some work that Stantec had done for us with the identified revenue accounts that we spoke about earlier
that we believe will be impacted based on COVID-19.
And within this chart, you can see what we projected for the fiscal year 2020 budget, the six-month actual that doesn't necessarily include a lot of the impacts of COVID-19,
and then the remaining budgeted revenues to be collected.
Now, what you find down below is they actually did some projections for us of a bad, worse, and really bad, if you look at it from that perspective.
And so keeping in mind, this is for fiscal year 2020, the current year we're in.
This isn't projecting for 21 yet.
This is our current year.
They're projecting on the low impact $710,000 loss in revenue approximately, and then the medium impact $860,000 approximately,
and then the high impact of $1 million.
And so considering that, we won't be able to true up those estimates until we do receive some of those revenues in.
And as I mentioned, some of them come two months behind.
So as we start to see June, we'll see those March numbers, and then really telling will be the April.
And so we're going to continue to monitor these accounts.
And as I mentioned, those will be included monthly for city council so you can see the impacts as they occur.
So you may be asking, what is the city doing to mitigate those impacts?
As we look at this from a longer-term perspective, at minimum 18 months look ahead to put ourselves in the best position we can
to ensure that we continue to maintain our existing levels of service as well as our workforce without furloughing or laying off.
And so there's a number of measures that we've already identified and are underway to include looking at those vacant positions that we currently have
and freezing those positions, which means that the budget is removed from the fiscal year.
The position is still present.
There's just no budget for the position.
And this is for the remainder of fiscal year 2020.
You have the Parks and Right-of-Way coordinator position.
That position itself, while it's not going away, those duties are being picked up in-house by a project manager that,
as we review those projects that are currently underway, Jolie-Smith, the riverfront,
as those conclude, these duties will be transferred to that employee.
And so we can still continue to meet those obligations.
The streets and stormwater manager position, that position's been vacant all year and actually was something that there were some changes
that position that the end of last fiscal year structurally within public works organization,
that that position was eliminated and those duties were collapsed into our then stormwater engineer and grounds and facilities manager.
So there's some savings there.
We had an HR intern that were freezing.
There's also the summer youth internship program.
We spoke about that at a prior council meeting.
And while that program, in its traditional sense, will not be possible this year,
we are actually working on a contract with CareerSource under a separate program that the city wouldn't have to provide funding.
But yet our youth within the community can be put to work not only at the city of Cocoa, but potential private employers.
And so we're working with them right now.
And they have an identification process as well, means-based, just like our former program was.
And we'll be continuing with that this summer.
So you will see some high school interns on site as well as within the community.
So, you know, I'm not sure if that's a program that CareerSource has on a recurring basis
or if it's something that's come out of, you know, trying to re-employ those locally.
And so we are looking forward to that.
And I know Tammy is, once the contract's finalized, they'll be conducting those interviews and reaching out to the community.
There were a number of operating funds that we evaluated to include a city management retreat.
There was funding in the budget to conduct leadership training for management-level employees and above.
That funding's being swept.
And those items will come to city council at the next meeting for approval because we still have to transfer the funds.
There was an information technology security study.
We were able to work with the Department of Homeland Security to actually run that penetration testing without paying someone.
And so they now do that on a regular basis and identify any gaps we have in our network security.
And so we actually ended up with a better evaluation than we would have with a third party.
And so that funding can be swept.
We talked about the railroad crossings earlier.
That funding would be available to be swept as we don't need to make that payment to FEC for those.
So with those cost reductions totaled up for this fiscal year, you're looking at $451,000.
And as we look at Stantec's estimated worst case for this fiscal year, you're still looking at a gap of about a half a million dollars.
And so while we've identified some sources, we've identified some additional, but we don't want to take that step just yet because we want to start receiving some actuals to make factual-based decisions on where we need to move next.
But it's important that we continue to do this as these impacts or reductions could mean a whole lot, especially as we move into the next year.
And so we are continuing to look at that.
So as we look forward to the fiscal year 2021 budget planning, we do anticipate $38 million in projected general fund revenue.
And that's almost flat compared to what we projected last year.
Of course, that doesn't include any sort of evaluation of what we're going to see for actuals.
And so as we continue to monitor that, we may need to adjust that number.
And certainly at the June workshop, we will have more information for you.
On March 16th, the departments began the entry of their budgets into our software system.
And early June is when I receive those reports and we begin our meetings with the departments.
The capital spending, we're going to continue to evaluate those capital costs, and you'll see them on the upcoming slides,
so that we can meet those obligations out of reoccurring revenues, because a lot of these capital costs are reoccurring in nature,
whether it's vehicles, roadway maintenance, there's a number of items.
And so we want to make sure that the city is in the best position financially, and not only financially,
but also that we're taking care of our assets.
And we're going to talk about that a little bit.
We are continuously identifying grant opportunities that align with those capital plans,
so we can minimize that impact on the general fund, as well as stormwater and utilities.
That's ongoing as we continue to see these federal programs and state programs roll out.
We want to make sure we're in the best position to receive those funds.
And the departments currently are working off of a 0% increase in operating and no new positions.
Now, while they have submitted some positions that they would like to have and believe are necessary,
those positions at this point in time would be held from the budget,
even though we're still tracking the costs and the needs for evaluation at midyear.
So if the economic conditions are favorable, we may be in a position that we can come back at midyear,
evaluate those positions, as well as some of the operating expenditures, bring that into the budget, and execute it.
So it's a consistent monitoring and stepped approach so that we don't overextend ourselves in an unknowing economic times.
As far as revenue, we did talk about the impacts of COVID-19.
We're also anticipating about $2.8 million as related to Hurricane Irma from FEMA,
and that's still outstanding with the completion of those projects down by the waterfront.
We can submit the final paperwork to FEMA, and then it's in their hands to provide us with the reimbursements.
We've been working with them since 2017, so they have all the documentation that they could possibly have up to this point.
They just need the actual numbers.
If you can submit that, you can submit that if you want to submit.
Yeah, if those projects are complete in July, when we receive that final invoice,
you can believe we're going to be sending them the final cost.
At least in fifth, they're going to say that they're going to put a rush on.
That's our hope.
Period.
That's our hope.
So you can submit more than I would.
I would hope so, but I mean, I think that's maybe wishful thinking,
because I just look at it as you don't have anything until it's in the account.
But I mean, considering what we're going through now and whatever we're going through now,
I don't see that happening that, you know.
From what I've heard, yeah, from what I've heard, they're looking at it as a potential stimulus to get those funds out as quick as possible.
So that remains to be seen.
And then we also have the impacts for our preparation that we did for Hurricane Dorian of about $130,000.
Of course, the Walmart distribution center is on the tax roll, and that as part of the agreement to induce that development,
there was a 40 percent tax abatement under ad valorem, and that actually expires in fiscal year 2023.
That was a five-year commitment.
It's also important to note that they also have 140 acres just adjacent to their site that's available for development yet.
So we would hope, depending on the economic conditions, that there would be future development along that as well
that could lead to additional tax revenue.
And then, of course, Stantec, at this point in time, projecting 3 to 4 percent growth in property values.
That's really a projection at this point.
We do anticipate receiving some preliminary valuations mid-May from the Brevard County property appraiser.
And so at that June meeting, we should have some better numbers for you.
As related to expenses, all of our union contracts are in play.
And as of fiscal year 2018, with the exception of two, the police lieutenants and then the fire district chiefs,
currently outstanding for this fiscal year.
But as it relates to the rank and file for police, fire, and then our LIUNA union,
there are annual salary increases of 3 percent in those contracts.
And so for fiscal year 21, if we just take our existing employment base, you know,
you're looking at an estimated impact of about $187,000.
We did meet with our health insurance benefit broker to evaluate our self-insurance fund just this last week.
And based on the claims and industry costs, they're currently estimating for the city a 14 percent increase,
which equates to $800,000.
Now, the good news in this is that claims for March and leading here into April are trending down.
And a lot of that due to elective surgeries not being able to be done,
as well as folks just avoiding emergency rooms and health care providers due to the COVID-19 pandemic.
So is it a realistic expectation that we're going to see that continue?
Maybe not.
But it does provide some temporary relief,
and we may see some movement in this as we continue to move through the year.
It is important to note that the employee health centre,
that utilization for that clinic,
since we have a partnership with Cocoa Beach, Rockledge, and Satellite Beach,
they consistently monitor the usage by the employee bases and depending on the
usage your cost share goes up and so I know our employees you know as we
started the program they've continued to use it and so we anticipate that staying
level and depending on what the other cities usage is depends on our share
that of course is not near as significant amount as the others
yes there they do offer telehealth through yeah through our insurance plan as well
but yeah so you have our health insurance program through Cigna with the telehealth but then you also
have the employee health center that is managed by care ATC and they they recently rolled out that
virtual option as well
okay and just some external factors that we typically monitor the consumer price index municipal cost index
compensation for state and local workers this data January February is the latest you can get right now
we can almost throw that out because we know the impacts that are going to be reflected within
this and so we still we still present the data that's available you also have some horizon issues that you
need to be aware of as related to the public safety pensions you can see that the fires unfunded liability
increase 720,000 and that was per their pension report this year and that feeds into our budget for next year but a lot of that increase was due to a fiscally responsible decision to adjust their assumed rate of return
they were up around I believe eight percent and then reduce that to not quite seven and a half but they stepped it down and they're going to continue to step down and so when you adjust that assumed rate of return extrapolated over all those years it has a pretty significant effect and so they're trying to do the right thing it does have an impact but it also trues up that pension fund so we have a more realistic
expectation of what we're looking at
So we have a more realistic expectation of what we're looking at.
And that's the same with the police.
They did the same thing the prior year.
They made that adjustment, and now you can see that their unfunded liability actually decreased 68,000.
So that was good news.
And we spoke about the health insurance costs.
One other item with the transfer of Lee Winter Park,
the county has a commitment to contribute those District 4 revenues of $60,000 a year all the way to fiscal year 2022.
So that will be – we've got two more years of that.
Those dollars are used.
You've seen a lot of improvements on that site down there for maintenance-type activities.
We do have the solid waste contract expires in fiscal year 2021.
While it's an impact to our residents, it's also an impact to the city based on the current arrangement that we have with waste management.
And so that is anticipated to go out to bid this next fiscal year.
Of course, we're still very aware of potential natural or man-made disasters.
We did talk about the reimbursements from the prior hurricanes.
And then any future events that may occur could be an impact to that unassigned fund balance.
We've been monitoring this for a few years as far as that – the ruling on the Internet sales tax.
Many of the states had already implemented something, and Florida has implemented that to some degree as far as, you know,
if you have a physical presence in the state, you have employees in the state, you're required to pay that online sales tax.
Now, they haven't exercised that option across the board like many of the states.
So we believe there's still some revenue on the table, but they've taken no legislative action to enact that at this point in time.
As we talk about the capital improvement program for the city, we do use a matrix here to identify the priorities.
So we're not just picking and choosing as far as what we would prefer or like to do with the CIP.
These are really decisions based on mandates, requirements.
And if we're fortunate, we get to those desired or nice to do.
So if we talk about the – this is actually for fiscal year 2021.
It says on the slide 20, departmental capital requests.
Within the police department, they have a number of patrol vehicles that are a reoccurring cost.
They are capital.
We've seen those costs go up pretty dramatically as the manufacturers have moved away from passenger cars to SUVs.
And so the request this year for seven patrol cars and then seven unmarked cars is $530,000.
The victim's advocate within the police department, there's a grant out there that would pay for half of that vehicle,
and the city's share is $24,000, that, of course, being contingent on the grant.
The SWAT vehicle is very dated, and that's in the CIP for $128,000.
A 3-D laser scanner, which is really a crime scene tool that does a lot of measurements and analysis related to whether it's traffic
or any other related crime on scene.
A traffic response trailer.
Radio replacement.
Those are the digital radios that the police department use, the portables.
Those are very expensive radios, and they have a pretty high shelf life.
At this point in time, we do have a maintenance contract on them, and we replace batteries, microphones, all those items that tend to break.
The actual items themselves are still functioning.
And so while that's an expensive cost, we did just replace those as we, the state, moved to a digital radio system.
We had to upgrade our radios.
And so I think they're, what, close to five years old now, the oldest ones?
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
And so we are looking at those replacements.
We do budget an amount to replace those broken throughout the year.
Fire department, they have some extrication equipment within their proposed CIP, as well as a pumper truck.
That's the big item for the fire department, $639,000.
Fire inspector vehicle and active shooter equipment for the total of $708,000.
So with that, we evaluated it, worked with our staff as far as, you know, is this a must-do or is this a nice-to-do?
And really looking at, when it comes to vehicles, what are the maintenance requirements and is it something that we must replace?
And so within the police department, we really looked at the number of patrol vehicles being the most important operation
and number of miles consumed annually, looking at making sure that we can continue to maintain that fleet and availability
for our patrol officers that are responding to cars or to calls for service on a daily basis.
And so that number has been reduced down to seven actual patrol cars.
And then the victim's advocate vehicle, of course, that's pending grant funding.
The SWAT vehicle, that unit continues to provide service, although not ideal operationally.
It does continue to provide service, and we also looked at the number of call-outs related to that
and do not believe that that would be a must-do at this point in time.
The other items, the laser scanner, traffic response trailer, those are kept in the CIP,
and the department will be submitting those in the budget.
What we've asked them to do is when they put those items into their budget, that they prioritize them within their budget.
So as we look at potential impacts of COVID-19 and we need to make cuts, they're already prioritized within the line items
so we know exactly how we can move through that to reduce those costs.
So when you say grant funding, does that mean we would be $24,000 and that match?
That's our match, yes, ma'am.
Fire department, extrication equipment, we'll be seeking grant funding for that.
The big one on there, the pumper, meeting with our fleet staff,
they invest about $7,500 in maintenance costs into the engine they'd like to replace,
and that's a very important decision to push that out one more year
because if you decide to purchase a new pumper, you're looking at potentially an 18-month build time on that.
So not only do you push it out one year, but then also the actual in-service date is out beyond what you may believe.
Now there are some options related to that.
You may have seen other pumper trucks that use the cabin chassis type model.
There's a number of agencies that use those.
Our agency uses these, and our staff is most familiar with these custom-built fire pumpers,
and so we believe that that can be deferred in an additional year.
We're not seeing the maintenance costs to the point of where we believe it would have to be replaced.
How old is the one that we have now? Do you know about it?
Is it an 2002?
Yeah, it's in 2002.
And we previously refurbished one of the older ones two years ago.
We still encounter a lot of bugs with that.
So when they take something apart and modernize it and put it back together,
it doesn't always go back together as it would from the factory.
So this pumper may not be considered for that type of retrofit.
Yes?
I believe that the cost of the one that's going to talk to you.
Question.
The cost of the one that's going to go back to you.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
So it's...
Yes, he was talking about the grant fund.
And I thought that was the actual cost, wasn't it?
Yeah, that's the actual cost.
So they will be seeking...
And the ones after the seeking grant funding.
And then that's going to be in my doctor's background.
So those are the things that are...
Yeah.
So those are the things that you think is a young person.
We're seeing a...
Yeah.
Yeah, because that...
It didn't make it sense that this would be a match when we don't even know, you know...
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
This is Public Works.
This is very small font.
I apologize.
They have a number of items on here.
To include community services, if you recall, we did partner with Brevard Public Schools on that logistics training center that would be constructed at the adult education center there off of Dixon and Clear Lake area, right behind fire station one.
We haven't heard anything on that.
But the city's commitment to that submission of the grant was $100,000 in capital costs.
And then there was a reoccurring...
I think it was $12,000 or $20,000...
$12,000, I believe, to ensure that we had COCO residents' preference to attend those trainings.
And so that's still pending out there.
We haven't heard anything back on that.
We previously submitted for it and were not successful.
So this is the second go around.
Within Public Works, you have a number of...
And I'll just hit the highlights, obviously.
The second go around, primarily, is the annual street repaving, $300,000.
And we're going to touch on that a little bit later.
But as far as how much road resurfacing does that get you?
And then how many roads...
How many...
What's the distance of roadway that you maintain?
Are we meeting that degradation curve or not?
And so we'll talk about that just a little bit.
They need a new flatbed truck.
Indian River Drive stabilization.
That's really at...
As you travel on Indian River Drive, that highest elevation point...
We noticed it first during Hurricane Matthew.
If you look at the guardrail there, it kind of peels out towards the river.
The embankment's actually falling down.
And so there's a potential risk, especially during storm season,
that that embankment, although it's on private property,
could cave in and then take our roadway with it.
And so we've done some evaluation on that.
We estimate that project to be $550,000.
We have...
Brian, we have submitted that for grant funding...
Under the Hazard Mitigation Grant Program.
What was that...
How was that some of the most...
...in properties of our property?
And so...
...in order for us to do that type of project,
we've been working with the property owner to at least allow us to enter into an agreement
to do that work on their property.
But they really...
It's just an almost vertical embankment.
They don't...
You know, they don't...
It's not like a benefit to them where they can go out, put up chairs or anything like that.
It's a very...
It's a sheer drop-off.
So...
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That's right.
And...
Yeah, there's a dock, I believe.
But for...
You know, for us to compel a property owner to do it for the benefit of our roadway...
And we're being...
We're just being proactive with the fact that...
You know, the road.
We don't want the road to be taken out because it affects everyone.
It just seems...
Because...
Yeah, the benefit is against both of those problems.
Yeah.
Yeah, and so that one's significant.
We have completed the design on the Provost parking lot.
That's the...
On the east side of that park.
That dirt lot area is reconfiguring that and establishing actual parking stalls.
And that's something that they'll also evaluate with the Parks and Open Space Master Plan as well.
And that...
That should be eligible for grant funding as well.
The...
The next item I want to touch on is really a...
A must do.
And it's a must do now.
Over at our fleet facility, we have underground storage tanks for diesel and gasoline.
And the...
The Florida Department of Environmental Protection did an inspection earlier this year and actually failed our tanks.
So, right now, if you've got to go over there and fill up with diesel, it's almost like a trickle coming out of there.
And they're trying to piece it together to make sure that we can continue to provide that fuel.
We did negotiate some contracts to be able to bring fuel on site temporarily in the event there is a hurricane.
So, we have that...
That need met for now.
But we are going to be starting the process of bidding that project this fiscal year.
Yep.
To get those tanks taken care of.
Question.
Are we doing a...
Are we looking to go back underground or are we going to do the frack tanks?
They would be above ground.
And you can see there's some above ground tanks there now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But these would be even more modern than that.
Yeah.
That's some of the new technology now.
I mean, it's just...
It's nice.
I think they do it over in...
Let's say...
They build these over in Acala or somewhere over there.
Could be.
Yeah.
It will be out of the ground.
All the piping could be almost done as well.
Yeah.
I see a lot of the stations are going to that now.
And then they have the walls there to contain any...
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that includes some improvements to the island itself and the pumping, I believe.
So...
With that, the other significant items on that list, the police department roof, you may
be aware of that.
That's the original barrel tile roof.
We've been monitoring that for at least the last three years.
We've put an additional amount of money in the budget to ensure that if there are needed
repairs after certain rain events, we can do that.
The last two years, we actually haven't had to really tap into that funding.
So we've continued to defer that cost.
There's a couple of HVAC needs here at City Hall, as well as the Cocoa Village Playhouse.
There are some issues related to our elevator controllers with an update of the Florida Building Code that, you know, at both the police department as well as the Porsche house.
So we're evaluating those.
Those are cost estimates at this point.
Hey, Matt, real quick.
Yes, sir.
Going back to that roof, did we, during the hell storm, did we normally have someone go up and inspect those after that hell storm?
Did that happen?
Or just curious?
What we do through our insurance carrier, they come right on site just like after the hurricanes almost the next day.
As soon as it's safe to travel, they're here on site.
We take photos.
You know, unfortunately, that barrel tile roof, it's either broken or not.
And so it held up pretty well in that storm event.
What is the demo?
Yes.
So old fire station one, the administrative quarters on old fire station one currently has a leak in the roof and there's deficiencies with the sewer lines.
So from the city's perspective, as far as our use, we don't have a use for that portion.
Now the bays and the outdoor confined area, we could potentially use that.
And so the carrying costs of that administrative side, it would be better for the city to demolish that.
I know there's some interested parties out there that, you know, we could go through a public process to see if they were interested in taking that over.
But…
Can you follow the asbestos?
I don't…
I'm not certain on the asbestos.
There could be.
But certainly mold, yes.
There's probably some…
There's some mold there.
So we still need to include it into the budget in the event that we need to demolish that structure.
And just to add, there is an organization that's interested in it and have a look at it.
And they're willing to pay to get the roof down and all this other stuff and mitigate whatever needs to be done in there, upgrade the left row and so forth.
So that will be coming back to us as a councilor as soon as they're able to.
Okay.
And then, as you can see here, we looked at…we evaluated those projects and you can see a number of recommended deferments.
The Public Works pole barn rehab, the police department roof replacement, police department generator replacement, the Porsche house elevator controllers.
And we're evaluating that.
Is it even necessary to have an elevator?
It wasn't original to the house.
We do have a number of businesses that rent space on the second floor.
But do we need to provide ADA accessibility in that…in that structure?
So…
Okay.
Okay.
That's…
That's…
That's…
That's…
That includes some…
What's with the City Hall of A-SAC system, where there's a permanent structure, or a few…
Yeah, so there's…it's often a meat locker in this room.
There's six units total for City Hall, and two for each floor.
You may recall recently to Council in this last year, we brought to you all to do an emergency replacement.
We did that for two of the units.
We've replaced two prior.
There's still two more remaining.
And so, we've got that in the capital plan for this next year to avoid any shutdown of those units.
And then there's also…IT has their own separate one for that…the database or server room that puts off a lot of heat.
So, the replacement for that one is actually a…more of a residential, commercial-scaled model rather than the industry-specific model that they have right now.
So…
And so that…your total CIP request for the City's general fund is right at 2.3 million.
With those modifications, and of course, continue to monitor that as we move forward and understand a little bit better picture of our revenue.
We also have a number of community-based requests that we've received.
And the first one in particular, going back a couple of budget cycles, the Brevard Public Schools, Cocoa High School.
We actually have a meeting organized, I believe in the next week or two, to discuss this project.
It's something that's been budgeted in fiscal year 19 and 20, and we continue to carry it.
And so, we've coordinated a meeting to resolve that and get this one off the books.
So, we anticipate that happening this fiscal year.
The Brevard Museum, they had previously presented to City Council seeking $50,000 annually for three years,
and that being for operational museum operations.
The Cocoa YMCA is seeking $350,000.
They also presented to City Council for repairs necessary for the roof, mechanical, facility improvements, as well as the swimming pool.
Now, they've also approached Eastern Florida State College and other partners.
So, all of those repairs aren't just what would be completed with the City's $350,000 because, from what I understand of their situation,
that wouldn't even meet their swimming pool needs.
So, yes, ma'am.
The Brevard Museum, that's a building building on the right?
That is correct.
That's on City property, and then it was built, I think it was in the 70s, late 70s, with the Grace Trust Fund.
And then they had certain artifacts that would be preserved in that museum.
So, they don't have to get copies on the city.
Yeah, and I know there's a scheduled public tour for City Council that was supposed to be, I think, this last Saturday, and now it's in June.
So, I think we'll all have an opportunity to go there and see it firsthand.
The City did.
This Council actually approved the agreement for the roof that the City made a contribution to.
And it would be my recommendation that we finalize that interlocal agreement with Cocoa High School.
That's something that's already in the budget.
And then these other commitments, continue to evaluate those.
And then at mid-year, depending on your revenue picture, you could potentially look at those items.
This is just a summary of personnel requests.
And as I mentioned before, that these requests would be held for evaluation at mid-year, consistent with revenue trends that we observe, actual revenue trends.
And so, there's a number of positions in here.
A new payroll coordinator position, doing an ad pay for six-meter readers and field service representatives to provide a more competitive wage.
And then, replacing the, over in the police department, the frozen school crossing guard position with a police officer trainee position.
What that is, is that we have, for recruitment efforts, we have a number of folks that don't have a background or a certification.
And so, we found that if we can get them on the front end, a good candidate, and actually pay them as they go through the academy, we can get a commitment from them to come and work for us on the back end.
And so, we've already successfully implemented that program, and this would allow us to continue that.
The senior license and permit tech position, a new one, to allow the community services department to be more efficient and better handle those permit requests and expedite those for our local contractors.
The public works department seeking an additional maintenance worker, too.
And then, transferring an employee that's a mechanic one to a fleet technician.
Now, there's a couple of these positions that are just modifications to the existing employees.
Those may be something that we consider regardless in this year's budget, absent adding new headcount.
Within the utilities department, they have a number of positions related to the Dial Water Treatment Plant, as well as field operations.
They would also be seeking to modify those water reclaim system coordinators to change their job description to be environmental control coordinators.
And that would be an increase in their pay grade resulting in a small increase overall to the utility fund expenses.
Now, do those costs come out for the position?
Yeah, those costs are all inclusive of salaries, health insurance, pension.
And, you know, when we talk about health insurance, it's assumed that they're going to be accepting family medical.
So that would be the highest cost to the city.
So we can, no matter who's hired, we understand the complete financial impact prior to.
Okay.
And then as we look at our budget development philosophy as we – from fiscal year 1920 and now 2021,
you can see that philosophy has changed quite a bit based on the financial position that we believe we're going to find ourselves in.
And that's shifted to maintaining our existing level of services to our citizens and customers to make the necessary adjustments now.
And as we continue to prevent layoffs and furloughs of our employees being our most important asset to ensure that we can continue to provide those services.
And then continue to reevaluate our position at mid-year next year with continuously monitoring that through this budget cycle, development cycle, as well as fiscal year 2021 when that actually gets underway.
We do have some projects within here that come from our assigned fund balance to include the enterprise resource program.
And that's the software conversion, kind of the central nervous system of the city.
If you consider our financials as well as our land management files, everything else, all of our other software ties into it.
So we are – we've done a lot of evaluation related to this as far as our existing software that dates back to 1992 meeting the city's needs.
It's been determined that it does not meet our needs.
We do have a workshop with council programmed, just not scheduled yet, to brief you on that project in its entirety.
We also have the roadway sidewalk construction.
I talked about that.
That gets us – that 300,000 gets us about three miles a year.
And if we look at that – actually, I believe it's four miles.
Yeah, it's about four miles because we have 79 miles of roadway in the city.
So to meet that 20-year degradation curve, we need to do about four miles a year.
And so this gets us, you know, to be able to meet that 20-year threshold.
It doesn't allow us to continue to penetrate into those roads that maybe have fallen beyond that.
But at this point, with the conclusion of Pineda, we've met all those structurally deficient roadways in the city.
And so we believe that to be a good plan moving forward.
The implementation of the sustainability and the resiliency action plans.
Economic development.
Of course, we hope to see those projects continue and ensure that the city's in a position to support those requests if necessary,
and then continue to seek grant funding to supplement those expenses.
And with that, I'd like to talk a little bit about, from City Council's perspective, how you see the priorities of the city moving forward.
And I would ask you to consider that from really two perspectives.
One being, you know, the financial situation that we find ourselves in and getting some sort of consensus on moving forward with ensuring that we maintain our existing levels of service,
our existing employees to prevent furloughs.
And then secondly, what projects and initiatives would you like to undertake?
So with that, we can have that discussion.
Yes, the question is related to our leisure services staff who oftentimes serves those customers that have reservations, private venues, as well as reserve our city facilities.
We're currently using those facility attendants while facilities are closed to events through June.
We're using them to perform extra cleaning efforts throughout the city to supplement our custodial staff.
And they've been performing very well in that function.
And so we're going to continue that through the month of June.
But we do anticipate those events continuing after June, based on the vendors that we've had communication with.
Most want to postpone rather than completely cancel.
Well, I guess you're ready for our end of the day?
Yes, sir.
Okay, I'll start off.
And then some of my stuff is just simple.
That's just, well, except for one, I think it's not too simple, but it's on Aurora.
We go on to the sharing center.
I think it's so important that there is a sidewalk there because you go there on a day-to-day basis and you see folks just walking in the road.
And I know they got the little storm drains there or whatever.
I just, I've seen folks in walkers and they especially hover around and just in the road just trying to get the assurance thing.
Is that our road or county road?
It's our road.
It was county road, I guess, in the city annexed or in the road.
We identified that one in our swamp.
I was planning.
Okay.
The type of ditch was .
Oh, okay.
And then other than that, Matt, it's just, just invested more into some of these lawn services, these licensed lawn services in the city to maintain our main fairfares and our intersection and just clean up throughout the city.
And some of our, especially the sites where people see day in and day out traveling through our city.
You can go by there any day and it's just some reason some people just throw the trash out or window or whatever.
You know, we just, the appearance says a lot.
And we just want people to go out through our city and see a beautiful city and well maintained.
And I know that other cities and I'm not going to mention their names.
I know that they, they actually have crews that, a crew of two that goes out in the mornings and just drive and get certain locations, certain main locations that people see driving through our city.
And, um, just something that, that's what my thing is just investing more in that.
And, uh, as well as, um, identifying some of the benches in the city, like the ones you, uh, have on Peachtree Street.
I don't know the, are they gone?
The one by the VOA, yes.
Oh, great.
Okay.
I missed that then.
Okay.
Cause I, I turned up firm so I didn't, around there.
Okay.
Okay.
And, uh, but other than that, just, uh, doing a better job of, um, just, uh, cleaning our city up and, um, and that appearance.
Cause perception is everything, man.
And, uh, we've heard for years that the city of Cocoa is a diamond in the rough.
Well, you know what?
We've been saying that for years.
I've been hearing it.
I was hearing it on the council before.
And, uh, it's time for us to do something with reference and polishing it up and, and, uh, and just us completing some of the projects that we throw out there.
You know, like the museum, the community garden, and the list goes on.
I just, when we throw projects out there and we do these photo ops and all this other stuff, let's finish these projects.
Let's stop, you know, with all this, uh, you know.
There's a lot of people willing out there, willing, uh, that's out there that's willing to get involved at no cost to us, you know, for their time and efforts.
And we need to take advantage of that.
So that's it for me other than, uh, the stuff that's happening already and, uh, doing well.
And then, uh, you know.
One thing I do want to add on that grounds maintenance, just so you all are aware, uh, with the COVID-19, uh, maybe not intended information.
Maybe not intended impact.
We did have that, uh, inmate work crew that we contract with the state for, uh, that, you know, can bring up to eight, uh, workers on a daily basis to the city.
They actually locked that program down.
Yeah.
And we don't know when that's going to come back.
So public works is they're working to maintain.
It was definitely, it was, it was, uh, shut down, but I just hope that that's just, uh, you know.
Oh yeah.
And that was one thing that roundabout right there in front of the Baptist church.
Yeah.
That's something that it's been in the books for years, just years.
And it's just, nothing's been done.
Uh, and, uh, just completing that roundabout will make such a difference, uh, off down here.
And, uh, and just moving forward with identifying, which I know you guys are doing already, identifying some additional parking for the downtown area so we can address those issues.
Yep.
And those, both those items, you know, we'll be bringing back CRA.
So.
Okay.
Okay.
Thank you.
Um, when things kind of been, like right now, as far as, you know, what we know about what
our revenue losses are going to be, is everything.
Um, honestly, focus on our priorities.
And, um, I'm not sure if I can say that, but I'm not sure if I can say that, but I'm not sure
that's the things that, uh, that we know we have to do.
Um, I also, see a couple of things we've got coming down with high grip that they could
practice, um, um, really difficult ways that we're going to have to address the problem in
the budget, but, um, the mayor's right.
Um, we can do a lot, we will live on, uh, even up to the parents, up to the town.
Um, it seems like maybe because there's more people on it and some people walking, maybe
it's just because we don't want to have a crew, we can walk so long, we'll crash on the side of the road,
but we haven't had a long, long time.
And one of the things that I see that, and I don't understand where we're falling down,
that maybe this is something that's the same as though the community is in the drug.
I watch children stand on the side of the road and keep our slow and break and crash.
And we'll stand at the bus stop, keep their breath and keep the road and crash.
So we're going to have to address that problem concerning the elementary school level that are still
and break but not.
It should be going on the bus while you're waiting for the bus.
Are you prepared for the school that sits almost daily tonight?
Okay.
So that's a long term fix, but it's something we probably can address now because the listeners
can contact with the partner with our community and our schools.
Um, in general, we're doing a really good path.
Um, I am starting to see especially some of the things that are in an important area that we are
going to have to address, um, coming into the office of the bottom of the
next, the salaries in our schools department.
Um, some of our neighborhood community groups have increased in all of their salaries by 10,000.
They have salaries, so they increase the numbers that are hiring.
Um, 70, 80, and they're coming here to budget and higher.
And they're offered $10,000 to $10,000 more a year for offering service salaries.
They should drive their car home to the work.
And we're going to be here.
And our guys will tour through here to be here.
They're going to be in the moment.
We've got huge turnover coming over in our school department.
We're going to have to do.
We're going to have a math exit if we don't correct those salaries.
Um, because, you know, if I'm going to go to work for you,
to do the cheap anyway, I might go over to the home and we're going to be on our.
So if that's going to happen, we're going to lose a huge number of people
who don't address that salary issue.
So that's my gig.
Other than that, our department did a great job.
Obviously, that's my big issue.
Because the last thing I want to see is that's how to call their vitality.
True.
Yeah, you know, the police business is almost the same no matter where you go.
So, you know, unless you're committed to a certain agency, why would you not choose to be compensated at a higher level?
So.
Yeah, I mean, if you look at the things that we've had by, you know, the sheriff's and the police business, you know,
and they're saying, hey, this is what we're offering.
We have people who have left here who are friends with people in your heart,
who are saying, hey, I'm taking 20,000 rain in the morning here than you are,
and I'm not having to work extra people to get it, and if I work extra people, I'm going to be a fixed-stage room a year.
So, I'll tell my focus to the staff and the staff is $120,000 a year, living on the island,
driving to Orlando for work, and he spends all day, every day, including our office, and our social media.
And I don't like it.
$120,000 a year is what I thought, who's going to do it?
I mean, we're not even paying a home to our department heads at that time.
So, we have to do something.
We have to figure out a way.
If you can't do this hours, you do have to figure out the benefits to make those people work in here.
Especially when we already spent the money to turn them.
I mean, we're losing them after we spent $30,000 to train them, and then they're going to put things up.
So, let's think about, we have to fix that.
And if there's, with the chiefs leaving, we've got to do that.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Councilman Robert.
Yes, sir.
I was, I don't know, she must be reading my mind, because I was going to say the same thing that the
friend just said, because it's honestly and truthfully, if we don't get to the program, we're going to lose a lot of good health.
And I think it's time that we've settled down.
And I know it's in the budget, we get $350,000 for the Y.
That money can be used for benefits and raises for our city employees.
Let's take care of our own before we start taking care of everybody else.
And at the bank of Cocoa, we're here to run a city.
I think we should take care of our city employees before we start taking our money.
Debbie Vickton, Dick, and Harriet Asks for money.
That's all I have to say.
Thank you.
Yeah, that was just, that was just on their wish list.
I mean, that's, yeah, that's not being included in the budget at this time, sir.
Yeah.
Councilwoman.
Okay, well, I apologize for that.
No, that's all right.
No, you're fine.
The way I understood it on this end.
No, you're fine.
I apologize for that statement.
Oh, sir, you're fine.
Councilwoman Coss.
I think that's a lot of people.
I think that's a lot of people.
But we do have a couple of people that are hoping that they decide that I think that
the council would have a lot of money.
But the increase of the last city, that's because I'm hoping that the city will be
something that we see in the people overall, given the pandemic, and the way we do these things
are going to be so much more important to all of a sudden.
So I'm hoping that you might be able to stay in our efforts as warm water management
along with incorporating our purpose of Canada, looking forward to this really
the future of our ideas of bordering things, because there's a very much such a pressure
to the government.
I do want to see, and this is new, but I do want to see an emphasis on Spanish language.
And we have the opportunity now to accept a couple of occasions to be staffed and our
ability to take care of our citizens by that.
I think it's a relatively, relatively intense, but a particular priority to the entire department.
But also in all of our staff, it has interaction and equity.
Yeah, that's…
…some of the things that we see in the society, we see in the society, we see in the
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which
yeah it's uh without a doubt uh something that's continuing to trend i was out in front of city
hall just two days ago and there was a spanish-speaking water customer well i've had
immersion classes it wasn't related to customer service so i had to go in fortunately we had a rep
right there and they do receive an additional pay for having that but they were able to satisfy their
needs and so yeah it's it's an essential component of our work yeah so that and then kind of then
which is somewhat related to the outdoor spaces and this is being really new i don't think you know
i've seen some of them but i don't know that there's a lot of extra expensive um
but um
i've been thinking a lot about the community
and we have a couple of experiences with that
that we can help you out there.
I think there's a lot of work in that,
that not that we can do it,
so it's just, we have to do it,
but even some sort of,
making those skill sets available at the community.
I don't know if that's some sort of partnership.
I've just, there is some dedicated staff around
this big family.
I'm talking about, you know, larger scale,
and people actually,
and paying us all about that in the class.
You know, and then some education on human nutrition.
So, we've done a few things,
and we'd like to see this happen to be,
you know, a project for more input
and sustainability about you.
Giving those cards to us.
Okay.
I'm getting the best.
I'm involved with those picks from the 4-H kids.
Yeah.
I mean, it's easier to put that thing for a while, though.
I'm talking about the 4-H kids.
STEM STEM
And it is, I'm involved with those picks from the 4-H kids.
You know?
I mean, it's a good stuff.
I probably wouldn't say that for a while.
I've also noticed we have a ingredient in chicken.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Big ingredient in chicken.
Is that it?
Let me say something real quick.
I forgot.
Actually, one of my diggies, I just remembered because I hadn't jotted anything down.
But one thing I'd like to see, hopefully, you know, within the next three years,
anyone that I'd like for the city to have all the employees under $15 an hour
to be brought up to $15 an hour.
Or some way, if it's a three-year plan or it could happen over a three-year period of time.
Because I see it coming down the pipes.
And there's no reason why we couldn't start it.
I know there's some other cities that already got it in place.
And then also, I'm a true believer that anyone that's invested 15 years of their time into a city or any business
should be close to topping out and paid.
And I think 15 years or 20 years, the time you get to 20 years, you should be topped out and paid.
You should never retire or leave your job within spending 25, 30 years in your job,
never topping out in your pay.
I just think we need to kind of look at that a little bit.
Because when you look at these guys that's been there 15, 20 years,
these are the guys that are training the future,
the individuals that are coming in to fill these positions, you know.
And so they're very valuable to us.
And I just think, I don't think that we'd give them enough, you know.
And they should top out and pay at least by 20 years,
but should be on their way to topping out after 15 years.
Yeah.
They're very valuable to us.
I think I understand what you're saying, but I wouldn't want to top them out
because that means they can't continue to earn higher wages.
But I understand what you're saying being in the upper threshold of the range, yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
I think it's something, too, that, you know, I've been through before
and still haven't come up with a plan.
But I really think there's some benefit to encouraging employees.
I'm sorry.
I know you've got 50-some employees.
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Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm just a true believer that you know you take care of your employees and
the happier they are man I'm telling you man the work productivity man would certainly change I
guarantee it and then you'll see some of your vacation and sick time you know you'll start
to see those numbers go down because I just think that we got some great employees and I think that
you know I don't you know I heard that whole adage that you know we make them look good no they make
us look good everything they do that's good out there and which is a lot it reflects back on us
the more we're going to benefit us as leaders
but um sorry
miss
yeah
foreign
being a part of that part.
That's something I think that we really need to do.
We should do it.
We should get in any places.
We really need to do it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
You have that conference about
all the different schools.
The county has that.
The city actually received that direct allocation.
And it's actually coming before you at the next city council meeting that lays out the,
based on the rules, what those uses could be.
And it's essentially just coming into the existing programs that we have.
Because that came down from the county as well.
Since we're a entitlement community, we actually received the direct allocation.
It's just in the account.
We didn't have any rules on what we could do with it.
Oh, okay.
So it's kind of strange.
But we did receive.
It's a barrier.
It's a barrier.
It's barrier.
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the the public housing that existed there previously doesn't necessarily line up
with the subdivided yeah and you know it's also maybe something that you
consider I know this the diamond square CRA has a budget for it this year but if
you were to bring a developer to the table that was interested let them make
the improvements and then the CRA participate because I don't know what
they're you know they've all we've seen a lot of unique designs for homes at
least in that affordable housing market right now and I would hate to install
you know sewer and water laterals and then and not fit what they they can
provide us so we can still do that and participate I believe something to
consider there is actually two groups that are going to be coming before the
council they just are not doing it right now because it's COVID-19 deal they
want to and I told them to maybe hold back until you know about April sometime in
April and possibly get them on the agenda then but they're actually two groups
coming forward with some of the same stuff that you're talking about
sorry
a STEM
STEM
for aid, whatever it is,
master degree or DVDs,
just lift them into that area
to the physical piece of public.
You can't go to the power of your body,
you shouldn't be able to do it.
You should try to make it.
I believe that it benefits for you.
I think a lot of offices are going to come back.
I know a lot of people want to go to the next house.
All the way through that is
to go to college.
We discussed cameras a lot this year.
Nothing has been done with cameras
except for housing orders.
We're enhancing that, whatever that means.
Again, it's that big, the housing orders,
but we're looking at more things like telling the officers.
If they can't be compared,
they didn't, you know,
we discussed more of that.
Yeah, software said over there,
they couldn't get that address.
They have that camera set up
and then high-prime area
to try to solve this.
But it can enhance and secure.
It has...
I'm out of my mind.
It's definitely a problem.
We've been stepping that together
with Fobos and Furniture and CrossFit
for so long.
I'm not talking about it.
We need to spend the money
and get that.
Because those areas,
you see,
it was a headache.
It's getting worse and worse by the day.
I'm getting called.
A lot of residents right now,
and the people walk around like a zombie,
I don't know what they own,
what they still have.
The company...
It's bad when you can enjoy your own house.
It's bad when you can enjoy your own house.
The people that may only be a little exciting
and they will be able to come in just taking over.
So I think that technology will help.
Our offices will help our community as a whole.
So they can't be charged.
I know sometimes they may be called away.
I know there's a lot of them.
When I call these,
you know, they have it.
So that those cameras will help us a lot.
I know the big dagger storm drain
which you just talked about
here's going trash inside the drain.
There's a lot of new technology out now
where they have those...
Not the sock drain,
but it's kind of like a cover in front of it
where it stops the trash
but it still maintains the full form.
So instead of the trash going inside,
it's just ladies inside this little car.
You probably might have seen it before.
It's kind of a hint.
It's a good thing.
The technology building is going to drain.
We have a lot of that going on
where so much trash is inside the drain
and it stops the COVID.
The right-of-way transition
may take away kind of the surgery.
I know we have to do it with the financing.
A lot of our right-of-way companies
share the department
to stop doing the COVID.
But before me,
it still was a major issue.
They only come once every few moments.
And a lot of the major areas
like the Lake and Rose
or the City of the West
or the Park and I
and the Dismaposal.
Those high areas
like when I walk along
is not being taken care of
to the way I think it should be.
I think maybe because that position
is not there
you don't have that guy.
That's his position.
That's his, you know,
sole job.
We make sure I'll right away
is all the way.
But I do understand
the reason why.
And that position,
you know,
those duties
are going to transition.
So there's going to be
someone out there
doing exactly what you said.
But I can tell you
I'm going to see it
in the budget request
from Public Works
related to grounds.
I already know
that's coming.
Hey Doug,
also I got a email
about the
new speeding signs
where
they flash the speeding signs.
Sometimes we can't have
our trail out
and we only have
I don't know how many
treads we have
to speed out.
So
a lot of streets
especially in the streets
that I live on
it's like a
NASCAR
road
is
60, 70, 80 miles
an hour
that's crazy.
But maybe
possibly
we could
let me know
how much
the traffic
flash the speeding signs.
I see signs
that say
slow man
you know
I think
I know
possibly
I'm not sure
miss miss
miss
year in the police department's budget they have a an additional speed trailer and then we looked at
the you know the options that are available much like you're talking about we've got some problem
areas to post those signs and then continue to to put those out obviously the police department
public works they know how to operate them but you don't always want to just display the speed
because then sometimes you induce that speeding so people can see how fast they go and a lot of those
signs now will either shut off or just flash instead of read out the speed but uh yeah
they're evaluating those options right now so
um
they got a good look i understand why
but i still want to see
miss
that's all I would get
okay
everybody has announced
all of our favorite communities are now
yeah I mean we'll continue to monitor that I'd still think that you know as we
look at even our local market there's some inequities but as you look at
Central Florida and the reductions I Rebecca what was the did we see from
Orange County yesterday what they were looking at double-digit percentage
yeah so we'll see how their plans change but you know even at the existing you
know if we do a snapshot right now they're still
miss miss
any other comments or questions?
If not, we do need to get some consensus related to building the proposed fiscal year 2021 budget related to the revenues that we then build those expenses around.
And that would be related to the millage rate and within Stantec's plan, maintaining that 5.9790 rate into next year.
And obviously we won't know what those projected increases will be until roughly June timeframe that we can be more confident in what kind of revenue that would generate.
And of course, this isn't to adopt a millage rate. That doesn't occur until the actual budget hearings.
So it's just to provide us some guidance as we build that budget.
And then also the fire assessment rate with the 3% increase and just looking for a city council consensus on that.
So that projection is obviously a lot of interest in the future.
And then we have a big line value.
And then we have elements.
Sure. And the Stantec evaluates that rate annually.
And that's presented publicly. So, you know, at this point in time, we're just seeking a consensus.
But that would be an appropriate time to look at, well, how does our rate compare to others?
You know, one thing that we got to keep in mind is our methodology may be different than the county, than other comparables.
So there's some factors to really weigh there.
But that's something that when Stantec does that evaluation, they can also provide you some information on how we compare.
So that's basically what I think about the fire solutions.
Yeah, and the fire assessment doesn't cover the cost of our entire fire service.
I mean, I...
Under 40%.
Yeah, it's just under 40%, I believe, is where we're at right now as far as cost coverage.
But, you know, that's...
And I can tell you where I'm going.
I think that it's maintaining the current millage rate.
And then as far as the fire assessment,
I think just maintain where it is right now and maybe look at it as we move forward to see,
you know, what happens and how adjustments we're making.
And I say because looking at everything that's happening, how this...
We don't know a whole lot about what's going to happen with this COVID-19 and moving forward.
And I just think that folks are facing a lot right now.
I just can't make a good, sound decision on moving forward with that right now until we see where we are.
And if we have to make some adjustments as a city, then we'll make some adjustments so we're not putting that burden on the taxpayers.
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What can we do with the government?
We just have to be playing for the worst case scenario compared to the US.
The worst case scenario is that our citizens are going to go up,
or our citizens are going to go up into the port.
And the street, so, you know, military,
because, you know, we have a little bit of time before we have to.
We have to be fine on that.
That's definitely not a problem.
I hope you have any more questions about it.
What about you?
I was going to ask you about it.
And I also enjoy it.
The tension is a great effort for the conversation about how we entered,
about our banners,
for the homeowners.
What do you do with homeowners?
For the water.
For the water.
Water and sewer.
I'll be getting a lot of phone calls.
I know our staff are going through the details.
Investigating how we move complete.
It's hard to live as you go.
I know a lot of stress in our department.
I've been witness that there's stress.
Stress speaks really quickly.
But I understand what that's going through.
Because it's so difficult to put on when someone break over this bed,
or you break over this guy.
Maybe you can move or whatever.
their names in the oven.
They put the baby names into the water bill.
All kinds of stuff.
It's very hard.
I do know that the water is not going to like it.
Right?
But I think it's something you need to put in.
Yeah.
On the net.
I think you had to set the number.
We want to put a million dollars in money that's not going to pay you right now.
For water.
So, I think the concept we have,
I think those questions are going to come out straight.
But a lot of this, we're going to make a lot of money.
So, I think the question is,
we will move forward.
We want to start with ion.
We will be taking the heat.
We will be using the filters.
Take the filters.
I'm moving some of the filters.
We will be using the filters.
We will be using the filters.
And there are property owners who have pulled water.
That's right.
That's right.
I think the department goes.
Yeah.
But we want to run a lot of our properties.
Especially here in Norco are managed by professional property managers.
Those who are competing in that body.
And those who are people.
You don't have to hand them.
Take it to the workers.
And they have to put together and leave the stuff.
Those are used to go in there.
So, it's that definitely.
The people that are clothing.
They have to put together.
And they need to buy.
So, it's really good to start.
Because there's several thousand of them.
So, if you want to run that.
That's really good to start.
Because there's several thousand of them.
That's why.
So, if you want to run that.
That's really good to start.
a fair by.
Let's talk a little bit.
If you want to run that.
If you want to run that.
about
you said you're saying you want the instead of being able to
and so like what you know that's going to be right that's gonna they're going to raise the cost of
the the rentals
no but when you have a when you have that lease in that contract it's for a set amount so they're
going to have to try to guess what you might be spending in water bill if not your your monthly
payment will be changing every month and then let's say if you have like an incident like we've
had a couple times where someone's got the water in or someone's trying to ward on it was like a
eight or nine hundred dollar bill then that that a homeowner or whatever is going to say wait a minute
but anyway anthony might want to chime on that he has anything to say
that's just a city attorney yep yes mayor what was the question he was talking about uh oh it's
related to the uh utility accounts being in property owners names versus the uh tenants
and rentals yeah well well what's the question though i mean the the did we just modify that policy
though require you know require that um and when when when when it's possible have the account in the
property owners in the property owner's name we make the property owner or whoever's trying to start
service responsible for showing us they're allowed to be in that property which does uh entail you know
getting permission from the property owner but we don't require a property owner to have it on in
their name it's not a requirement right now a tenant can put it on in their name anytime they just have
to prove they have the right to be in there by lease or other methods property managers show us a
property management agreement so we're making the owners more responsible for who's moving into their
properties before we put the water on in the tenant's name but we still do allow i think what uh councilman
goings is saying is that he um well i know what he's saying because i did talk to him a little bit about
it is that um you know not in the future there are some cities that require the water account utility
account stay in the owner's name and never transfer into the tenant's name and always making the owner
responsible it's a better method to collect debt you can lean the property when a tenant defaults on a
debt you're out of luck unless they try to come back into the system again and we force them basically to
pay their back debt um which is what staff spends a lot of time currently doing you know checking leases
checking facts making sure you know who's on the lease making people the right people responsible for
the water bills so um i believe that's what paul turns into and just to add i know there's some
recovery i think about a year ago or so we spent a significant amount of time going over this history
i just can't remember all the details off the top of my head trying to put the city in the best position
to secure um payment of the water bill we did and and the part i believe you're talking about anthony was
when there's unauthorized water usage like a tenant did not set up water service with us and just
started using the water or even an owner just started using water without starting service we
make the owners responsible for that until we secure and set up an account and whoever is supposed to be
but the owners are always responsible for the unauthorized water usage we don't put that on a tenant
even though a tenant might be in there using the water they never came in to set up service with us
that's what we fixed a year ago we make the owners responsible for that
and i know like anything if if you're included if you're paying my water and my electric
and then if i have a set fee i can guarantee you during the summertime that air condition will be
cranked down to about 60 or 54 and i can guarantee my ward i'm gonna let it run for an hour before i go
get in that shower because i know i'm not paying any extra but i mean that's just some of the stuff
that that you would face as a property owners would face you know in that in that case but
but i understand where you're coming from
oh yeah but we'll put together the data
we'll put together some information uh for council to review as well as prior actions
that have been considered by council this has come before them before
so we'll we'll get that information and bring it to you
and there are and there are recovery companies that i know i've met them at some of these conferences i've
gone to that's for a certain portion or percentage they would go after these individuals that
all the cities for for stuff like this you know and yeah
but it's important to remember this is all utility fund related this doesn't have anything to do with
revenues yeah yeah yeah yeah and so before we move on to the utility fund i just want to
get some confirmation on the uh the millage rate maintaining that building the budget around that
and then the fire assessment rate um what i heard was some disparity between maintaining as well as
the current rate or looking at that three percent um maybe for city council to consider is allowing us
to build the budget on that three percent letting stand tech present uh you know what the impacts are
we can identify reductions within those uh budgets to meet that and that way we're prepared uh so it
still allows council to move either direction okay because i do believe that three percent is in the
resolution anthony like an automatic three percent fire although we do and we just update the yep yeah
it's like automatic three percent it's in the plan it's in the resolution we would have to probably
change that if we were not going to have an increase one year
i believe in the resolution i have to have anthony confirm it that um the three percent is an automatic
increase and then we have to so if we're going to alter from that just like we do for water anything else
if you're because we have a lot of those automatic and then we bring them back to council to review
and you decide whether or not we're going to go that route we would have to if we if it is decided
eventually that we aren't going to have the three percent um we would have to like address that because
it is automatically built in yeah i think so too because we went off of the burden model and the
projections to pay off indebtedness and i we'd have to look at the resolution the rate resolution for the fire
assessment i think it's slightly different than the than the um the water um rate resolution
uh i i couldn't say for certain that this is no it's you know a done deal it's we'll we'll we'll
research the resolution
okay um with that we'll move on to the enterprise funds water and sewer fund uh those projections the
revenue projections currently based off of stantec's 2019 report uh keeping in mind that stantec is
currently in the process of doing that full rate study related to the water utility
and sewer and reclaim system and so that will be completed this uh
okay
uh we can pause for a moment if you okay
do you want to take like a five minute break or yeah yeah we'll just take a five minute break
okay
i was actually gonna order some pieces from uh uh from ryan but i didn't know if you all
get pretty it's pretty quick
maybe 10 minutes
miss
from
right that's right
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We're going to be
of 10.2 million dollars within their cip 1.3 million dollars related to the water main at
sykes creek some of you may recall during hurricane irma there was some scouring on that sykes creek
bridge and it became unstable and so they shut the bridge down to vehicular traffic
of which it has remained the army corps of engineers stabilized that bridge but it has our
our water main that runs along state road 528 attached to it and so to provide a level of
resilience for future storms we actually completed a design to underground that pipe take it off the
bridge underground it so we didn't have to worry about anything the county was going to do with the
bridge and we would still be able to provide that potable water water service to the northern barrier
islands and so that's in the the budget may be eligible for grant funding as well due to the
needs that it does service we do have 2.5 million program for pipe infrastructure and replacement
and that's what we do continuously annually as cities the county they program roadway projects
these are items that we may not be aware of but when we're made aware of we have funding to be able
to participate and lower our costs to replace those uh utility lines so that's a that's an ongoing
expense that we carry as a capital expense uh 1.1 million dollars for the utilities program management
uh lift station one replacement that's uh for the the sewer utility and i believe that one jack is right
down by oleander pointe uh and that one we've also submitted through the state's uh hazard mitigation
grant program uh four dollars on that but we still have to expend those dollars to receive them uh
reimbursed um a new well 17 out in the well field is a million dollars and then non-capital cip including
vehicles and equipment of 474 thousand dollars and then the uh significant operating cost to include
uh a utilities portion of the enterprise resource plan and then the reoccurring repairs and maintenance to the system
uh so with that just like to get some preliminary consensus from city council related to that
five percent annual increase projected in stantex study i did mention on multiple occasions they're doing that full rate study this year
so that that may change but uh based on revenues that are coming into the utility system and projected expenses so
uh just looking for some sort of consensus from city council so we can continue to build that budget for fiscal year 2021
uh
last year that you think was five yes ma'am
year before that
five
it was four yeah
and then there was a year with zero and then we went to three the next year
yep three
okay i know for me at this time once again you know
i know they could do their models for both you know that's what i'd like to see but just moving forward
right now i'm just kind of in the middle of the world with this
as well
see i mean i just have to see a little bit more what's going to be happening here over the next couple of
months
uh
that's right and it's a full rate study so they look at all of the all of the costs that go into
providing the service and so
the same thing would happen for our assessment right there would be models of both
yeah they'll do the models but the the full rate assessment looks at all those costs and revenues
and puts that together to redesign the the rate going forward much like we did with like the the storm
water last year and so um you know that will really i think allow you not just to see the model but
understand all of everything else that feeds into it and it really trues things up so
um
uh this comes back at the same uh i think they the meeting prior to the uh budget uh the millage adoption
so it's it's late august typically i think that's second meeting yeah august 12th same time as the
fire assessment is it no august 12th is utilities and then august 26th is fire okay yeah
yep
uh and then we want to touch a little bit on the storm stormwater enterprise system uh before we go
uh you all are aware that uh you know we did the the the full rate study methodology change this past
year uh we've implemented uh a capital plan and then uh also as a uh a decision by city council was to
review that annual rate increase annually and so what they had projected was that nine percent for three
years and city council had elected to bring the information back based on the execution of the capital
our ability to secure grant funding to see where we're at to continue to carry out that capital plan
and you can see that nine percent increase uh to those rates uh would equate to 165 000
and the annual impact for the average uh taxpayers nine dollars 96 cents of course you all know that we
set up the tiers so based on those tiers it's it's a disproportionate amount for each one
there are still some significant capital projects projected in there the the fisk uh boulevard broadmoore
acres uh drainage uh and construction of that and then their annual pipelining program uh that recoats the
the storm trains uh there's several other projects that you know they're really as we continue to move
through the budget looking at front loading the engineering on so that we're in a position to take
advantage of grants that may become available in a lot of cases they require you to be shovel ready so
trying to get to that point so we have a lot of these pro projects staged when something becomes
available we can maximize the dollars so uh with that you know just looking for some uh consensus or
discussion from city council related to the the rate obviously this will come back before you through
the model as well as some discussion on the execution of capital and what the needs are for that utility
yeah just as long as they come back with some uh you know like that's more here than that
multiple models within that range
just everything right now it's just i'm sure a lot of cities are going to be going through the same stuff
not knowing you know what's going to happen next month you know next week yeah so what we can do is we
can continue to build that budget based on the the capital plan and stantex report and then as it comes
back this year they present the uh the updated information through the modeling we can plan our
budget accordingly to either make the cuts or bring in those projects either way so okay with that i know
there was a question related to the timing of this year's budget process and you can see that that
schedule uh up on the the screen uh again this this year every year is unique this one's a little bit more
as we continue to monitor the impacts of uh covet 19 and uh continually update uh our our budget projections
uh revenues and expenses based on that but uh june 25th is the next time we'll come back and that's
where we'll have the stantec modeling for you to review they'll also do the one-on-ones with you in
advance so you can ask any of those questions there as well as at the public meeting trim hearing july 22nd
the utility rates public hearing uh and stantex report august 12th august 26th fire assessment storm
water and then the first public hearing of the budget is september 9th with the second on september 23rd
and so with that uh if there are any other questions i could answer them at this time we do have a
a couple of items uh to consider uh related to coven 19 separate from the workshop i got one quick comment
yes sir 105 million dollars that the county got depending on what our portion is going to be
i'm just curious what effect is that going to have on our budget because um i know that there are
certain things that this money can be used for and not you know not be used for and yeah the um the
guidance that came out from uh the federal government is that you can't use it to fill a hole in your budget
uh but i think as maybe what you're alluding to is what costs could be covered out of that that would
assist and so we're working with them uh right now on that while we don't receive an allocation for them
there has been uh really good collaboration at this point between the cities and the county as far as
uh distributing that equally across um so
so there's a lot of different things
uh
and i know the or homeless core list when they've created a task force that they got that
that covers the whole county that individuals from throughout the county that's part of the task force
and i guess it's for expenditures with money that they're going to receive them um throughout the county as
well and there's representative representation from um all other cities
okay uh yes sir
everybody
have you ever
and still understand how the student feels
from the community.
Yeah, I mean, trying to ensure accuracy
in the reporting may be difficult.
I mean, obviously we have.
You know, you have 50 degrees.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm pretty sure about that.
So when it comes to the facility,
we have to advertise the 10-year performance
on the facility bill, so connected to the board.
Yeah, and you're never going to see them
or hear from them until you get that final reading.
Yes.
Like I said, that bill, like I'm in my own bill.
When I got my bills, I didn't come out of my account.
I actually wouldn't live there for $7 or $8.
You don't really realize until you get it.
So imagine I'm a person that didn't have a job
or may have to get another job that I had.
Mm-hmm.
Cool.
I'll do it.
When you had the back to the school
to the university, all these people
were working for the paper, they don't understand
why they were working.
The price is up to $8 each one in court.
I'm a second.
I'm a second.
I'm a third of them.
Yeah.
You know, I see everything else.
It's going to be difficult for me.
It's going to be difficult for me.
It's a city manager in the future.
When we're having meetings like this,
this time of day, normally you could smell something
about that room right there.
I anticipate us being out of here by then.
Okay.
We're good, I guess.
With that, we can conclude the budget workshop,
and then I know Nancy has a resolution here related
to COVID-19 response for our local businesses,
sidewalk cafes based on the governor's phase reopening.
This would allow our local restaurants to be competitive
in offering space and serving patrons.
And...
Council, we brought before you a resolution,
and it's based on our economic development recovery task force.
Angela Essing, Charlie Neuterman, Samantha Singer,
and of course, Matt Furrier was also on the task force.
And we were trying to kind of think out of the box as far as
how we can help the businesses when they're limited to 25%.
So there may be some cases where they could expand their outdoor seating.
And it may be where they encroach into another person's property.
They may be able to take some parking spaces that are in front of their building.
It's going to be unique and creative.
And so we wanted to give them that opportunity to have a limited permit
where it would allow them to come in with a site plan and the information as far as
what type of protective barrier they're going to have.
They must be ADA accessible.
And just kind of think outside of the box as far as how they can expand their seating.
So, of course, with it being in a parking lot, we'd have to look at protecting the clients that are there.
And also the cleanliness, making sure that they're out there cleaning.
If there is alcohol, that would have to be monitored and kept on site.
So we would also limit how many tables they would be able to set up.
But it would give us that opportunity to issue these limited permits so that once the executive order becomes 75%,
the permits would then go away.
So that's basically the summary of the resolution.
Just trying to give the businesses some opportunities to be a little creative.
And it just depends on each one where they're located, where they have that outdoor space,
and how they can expand in order to accommodate more tables.
We would consider additional signings they're allowed to have.
I know it's certain .
It's supposed to be part of the city.
Like, some of the know that city can't have any signing in the right of way.
We, talking about that part, we would allow them to have that.
And then we would just do some goals or whatever else to sign them.
Yeah.
I think we can add that into that.
I'll speak with the city attorney and see if we can add that in as far as additional signage into the resolution.
Do whatever you want.
Yeah, I mean, to me, it's just a simple matter of saying, you know what,
! .
things that we learned that we could incorporate in the future as well.
I know you've got the barricades up here and we've talked about barricades.
It would be nice if there was something more uniform,
because some people's way of barricading things are just totally different.
It's just totally detracted from anything else around it because they just don't see it.
Well, and that would be the requirement of the permit,
and it really would depend on where they were putting the tables with the barricades,
what the speed limit is of the street or how close they are to the street.
They could be like, you know, Dixon Diner.
They could be in the parking lot and not really have to worry too much about traffic,
whereas if you're on Harrison or Delanoi, there'd be more traffic or on US 1.
But I wanted to clarify, as far as the signs, it would only be on that property,
not all the way down the streets.
Okay.
Because I don't want to get in trouble with co-enforcement.
I don't know.
Dennis might not like it.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But if they go to the village, then that's like the village.
Part of the people who don't.
Sometimes they go all the way down the street, you know, so that's what I wanted to clarify.
Yeah.
I think it's one of the people who don't.
Okay.
The question is here.
Thank you.
Second.
We got a motion from the Councilwoman McCallis, a second from the Councilwoman Warner.
All in favor signify by saying aye.
Aye.
Aye.
Aye.
Are you still there, Councilman Bollier?
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Okay.
Thank you, sir.
And then we've just got a couple more things to cover.
Just to update City Council, the public facilities are currently closed to the public by appointment only at this point in time.
And we're looking at potentially a two-week period for that to remain.
But what I'd like to do is get some consensus from Council as far as looking at doing that consistent with the Governor's Phase 2.
When he announces the Phase 2, we would move towards reopening our facilities to the public at that time.
When I'm seeing the Phase 2, I'm not going to have a new plan.
Yeah, I actually thought I'd be handing these out per our next request.
But yeah, he has a Phase plan that was developed by the task force.
And what we found is that Phase plan, while the task force came up with it, what he announced for Phase 1 was different than what's in the plan.
And you'll see that here coming up.
But...
What was the case with the many announcements that I've seen in the numbers of the students that I have,
and all of them that I believe that this will,
is the students who are doing more confusing with the number of our times,
and that's the best concern I have.
How can the families...
Because we can do less.
You know.
That's my honest...
Okay.
But our ability to address, because if you said Phase 2, you can jump on it, but yeah,
the only challenge from our perspective is just, you know, to get in front of the public in a setting like this,
you know, when we have to react quickly can be challenging, is why we look for a date like that.
But we have a city council meeting on the 13th, next Wednesday.
We could come back and talk about it again and see where we're at with the cases
and what the talk is coming from the state.
I think we can talk just to...
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Yeah.
And we had a lot of restaurants.
We said that we don't have to open.
But...
Like we're not...
How could that be...
We don't have to...
We don't have to...
We don't have to come up with a...
Yeah, because it goes back to...
We advocate about reference of home rule year and year.
And the governor says, okay, you know, Phase 1, Phase 2, and then everybody just goes, damn.
I mean, you notice that even now South, they didn't open up.
I mean, for a lot of reasons, you know, and the number of cases down there.
So, like you said, it's one size don't fit all.
And, you know, it might be good for your city to do this.
But it might not necessarily be good for us, depending on...
You know, it just depends on each individual community.
Okay.
And it's close to the garage.
It's necessarily what's with the Rockwitz or...
Right.
And we have...
A whole lot more public that actually...
Mm-hmm.
...in North Pacific.
In the United States.
In the United States.
Yeah.
We don't have anybody going into Rockwitz.
We don't have anybody.
Exactly.
So, we're unique.
In that sense.
So, we need to...
We need to spend our whole public.
We're always...
Because we end up with a lobby full of folks, you know, especially...
Well, I don't know.
I've heard a lot of folks who say,
Wow, I just gave up a lot of people online,
and they never had to do something else.
Yeah.
I guess we've had employees who've been talking to people
through the process of using their bank to pay their water bill online.
We just did a video, too, didn't we?
So, I'm hearing from people saying,
I'm not paying the convenience of doing the public housing money
before you open up your address every day.
So...
Yes.
We're just doing that.
Thank you very much.
They're all doing that.
But if they did a video, too, that they're going to release on the different ways
to pay a water bill, because the debit card, credit card,
is the only time you get charged.
There's seven other ways you pay your bill that's free.
So, about 20% of our people have used the credit card aspect,
and they do pay that fee.
But that's their choice, because they have seven other ways they could pay,
but it's three.
Yeah.
Well, I'm starting to hear from people that are doing...
Understanding it, yeah.
...and all the receiving fees, essentially.
Yeah.
They're walking them through it.
And they're real excited about the fact that they want to go to City Hall.
That's great.
That's great, because it is a lot of people come to City Hall for the social aspect.
Yeah.
I have one of those ladies, too.
Yeah.
And they want to receive.
She won't come and pay her water bill until she can't get here anymore.
Yeah.
They enjoy coming in.
You said coming from the front of our customers, who did that?
Correct.
They pay that fee.
That was before the tires.
It's only grown since we started charging the fee.
Only more and more people use it.
They've got a gas coming up there.
Yeah.
They've got a gas coming up there.
They've got a gas coming up there.
Yeah.
They've got a gas coming up there.
And...
I mean, they come in to pay their water bill, they drive here, if they were the credit card.
So that's just their choice.
At this point in time, those that are working remotely either have an underlying health condition
or childcare issues consistent with that Family First Coronavirus Act.
Other than that, we have the employees on site.
Can you do that for the employees?
Yeah.
We've installed a number of separation devices between the employees.
We still conduct our meetings electronically.
So there's a large number of initiatives that we have enacted to further protect those employees,
to include temperature checks, as well as the questionnaire prior to...
Those people are doing come up to the check.
That's right.
The only site that currently isn't, because we don't have enough of the infrared thermometers yet,
the order hasn't come in, is City Hall.
And through...
Testing...
Yeah, we have through CareETC, our provider at the Employee Health Center,
we've got an inquiry into them for the testing, as well as the antibody testing.
And if there's no more discussion, we'll bring that...
The closures back at the City Council meeting next Wednesday.
And then the final questions related to a letter we'd received from the Historic Cocoa Village Playhouse.
They have...
They are asking if they can open their facility to a play the very end of May,
and then proceed with their next scheduled play in June.
The reason why they're asking is because City Council took action to cancel all public-private events.
Their playhouse is within a city facility, so they fall under that.
They also fall under the Governor's phase reopening.
And the handout that I provided you was what the task force had developed for the phase reopening,
and it's interesting because it varies from what the Governor actually provided.
So he took components of that plan to implement in Phase 1,
and within Phase 1, one of the prohibitions was movie theaters.
And if you look in this document, it actually identifies movie theaters, as well as specifically playhouses.
And on the bottom of page 21, I highlighted the section there.
It categorizes playhouses with movie theaters within this plan.
And in Phase 1, it actually allows them to open 50% capacity.
Of course, he didn't enact that.
He said that they're still prohibited from being open.
Now, Phase 2, I would think would likely include them.
Now, the timing of that is unknown at this point.
You know.
So I think it was what, nail shops and these allows included in that?
Yep.
Yep.
So, you know, even those were contemplated being open, of which they're not.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they have previously mentioned it would be weeks when they rolled out Phase 1.
So, but of course, we're seeing some changes in the cases and in deaths.
So, so yeah, we'll bring that back next Wednesday.
Some more information.
There was an E.
Oh.
Stacy had submitted a comment.
I don't know if you want me to read that in as well.
So this is from Anastasia Hawkins.
She says, hello, I'm Anastasia Hawkins of 2130 Michigan Avenue, Cocoa, Florida 32926.
Dear City Council members, I am writing you today to ask for your help in order to keep our historic theater operating.
We submitted the document outlining our operational procedures in response to COVID-19 for us to present the remaining shows of our season.
We are asking for you to give your approval that we may complete our performances of Into the Woods May 28th through May 31st with all of the mitigation efforts we outlined in our proposed procedures during this phase of reopening business.
In order to present on stage, we need at least two weeks lead time for the cast, orchestra crew and patrons attending the production.
If we do not have enough lead time, then we will, we are unable to produce.
We are, we currently have patrons who have purchased advanced tickets last year and we desperately need to perform to avoid making any more refunds.
All ticket purchases stopped in early March and we need to complete our season in order to keep our theater open.
Furthermore, our children's programming is in jeopardy should we be unable to present Into the Woods the last week of May.
Please give us your approval.
I am concerned that our historic theater is in jeopardy of being able to survive.
Thank you for your consideration and for everything you are doing for Cocoa.
We made your approval for that job report, correct?
That is correct.
And so, I know she'd mentioned in that email a two week lead time.
Depending on what happens, you know, we'll reevaluate it at the next council meeting.
And that still provides enough lead time if we have any new information related to the phase, the phases of opening.
So we could, we could go ahead and,
if she falls with, you know, under the governor's order.
So she could go ahead and start,
when she gives her permission to see whether she's starting,
and supposed to the governor, the governor takes to order by the day 2.20.
But right now, thus saying no, we're made a few.
That's right.
That's right.
Because, you know, she's coming to city council because of the closure of the public private events,
Playhouse being included within that.
And so, right now, you know, the way I read it based on this plan as well as what the governor has put out,
that they still are under restrictions from the governor at this time.
Should those be lifted, the restrictions come from the city of Cocoa.
And so that.
So we could say in our main meeting, okay, safety provided together with the city that would really, you know,
people are blessed.
Yeah.
And she would still have to support it.
And that was a part of the governor's office.
Well, we'll go over there.
Well, I know that's what you're doing.
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The concerts.
And then on, yeah, and then on top of that, it's just the, the, the, the, it's something new
happen.
You know what I'm saying?
It's a city facility, you know, and, so there, there's a lot of things to consider,
and, uh, so, even though we might want to do that, we, we might need to, really,
do some serious thinking about it, this, you know, a liability part.
Every time I get into a move, it's like, oh, this, this, this, this, this, this, this,
pressure
and we've heard this entire time that there's still a lot of things they don't
know about this virus you know just a lot out there that they don't know and
if they do know they're not telling us but they're saying they don't know I'm
just gonna have to trust and believe that they really truly don't know
our population
are you still with us Anthony
sure I am
okay I'm just checking
I'm here with the comment that everything's going to be contingent upon the governor's
uh yeah governor's order and whether or not um it would be permitted to operate
no I was just messing with you Anthony I see if you're still there
okay
okay
okay is that and I have nothing further is that it okay councilman Beauvoir
anything yes sir motion's adjourned oh okay thank you we got a motion from councilman Beauvoir
okay
second from councilwoman Warner all in favor signify by saying aye
aye
aye
aye
thank you sir
yes sir
okay thank you
thank you
oh thank you
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