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I'll ask Monica to call the roll please.
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Nancy Elliott, Pam Shia, here. Caitlin Aliano, here. Bruce Gilmore,
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you.
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Thank you. If you'll all stand, Bruce is going to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
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All right. First, let's take care of our housekeeping business. Approval of the agenda and the minutes. We have our agenda in front of us. Do I hear a motion to approve the agenda as it's been submitted?
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Move to approve.
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Thank you. A second? Thank you. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Very well. The minutes are also been published and put in front of all of us. Hopefully everybody had time to read them. I need approval of those minutes to have a motion.
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Move that we approve the minutes.
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Thank you.
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have a second. Thank you very much. All right. So, ‸ minutes and agenda have been approved. There is no old business, so we'll move right on into the new business.
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Good night, everyone.
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So you want to go ahead and go over the first item which is the waiver for the points on
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Yes. So
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the applicant is requesting ‸ a waiver from Appendix
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to allow two
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a
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that is 60 feet wide reducing the required width of 65 feet for two points of access. The subject property is located on the north side of
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Drive and has one story single family dwelling unit and the future land use designation is low density residential.
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and the applicant is
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seeking a waiver to allow two points of access. So here we can see the location of the property. Here's the street view and
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point of access. For this residential. Here we have the zoning map.
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The future land uses long density ‸ residential.
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than the require 65 feet. In addition the proposed driveway is not within. Two feet of the properly line as required by city code.
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The applicant submitted this application
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after the fact and
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engineer address any concerns with the impervious impervious area for the site. The waiver request would decrease conjecture on public streets but not using the street for parking. The second driveway will provide on-site parking and causes no adverse impact. Of the
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other conditions deemed necessary by the Board of Adjustments. ‸ I'm sorry, do you have the applicants here?
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Okay,
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I just want to make sure they're
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present there.
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Yes, my name is Mitch Goldman.
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If you have any questions, we're certainly happy to answer them or to address any concerns that the Board may have.
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I'm sorry. Okay.
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Does the Board have any questions?
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ahead.
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Thank you.
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Sir, I didn't get your, what is your first name?
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Robert Boyd. Robert?
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Yes. Do we have the ability to go back to see the photo?
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park?
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You see it right there. There's, you see two cars in the red driveway and then the car, the truck on the side of the house is on the
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that I added.
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So where are the two entrances? Well. Behind the white car. Oh, the white car on ‸ the
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far left?
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there isn't at this point that I was told by the county when I was adding the other skirt to the road. There, the entrance would be if I added a skirt at the other one and they said that would make it a lot better to do. But I just put the pavers back on, on that side of the property so I wasn't parking in my yard. Like as you can see the other neighbors on the other house, they all just park in the yard.
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So that white car on the left is going to be parked on that grass. Well.
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there, is there a grass?
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And there was work ‸ on the house that day there, them other cars there were people doing work. So usually there's not four cars there. But yes, that in all actuality, the county said,
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the road that pavers? They said they would like to see it go ahead and get skirted out to the road and, and taken that way as well. So you're not driving through the grass and stuff. But either way,
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Maybe.
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house. Uh, if, if that was a concern, it's not really access. It's just a place to park the car.
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Yeah.
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the existing pavers. There's enough spaces for two cars right there. Correct. Right. Yes. So would that be your, why, why would you want to seek one on the other side of the house?
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Well, if you, if you drive down Rosa Jones and I've got pictures of the house next door, it's a three bedroom, two bath house. They
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four cars in
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front yard. My neighbor to the right, they, they, they have a driveway that goes all the way back. Four cars. ‸ I mean,
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there's no place to park on Rosa Jones. You know, how long is the trailer, the old trailer park across the street going to be open somewhere down the line? That's going to be, yes, it's public parking right now, but that's going to go away. You know?
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just put the pavers there so they could park on pavers, make it nicer.
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And also to get the cars off the street. I mean, you hate kind of slaloming through on a road sometimes because you have to get around the cars and especially at night, you know, it's the cars are perhaps harder to see, especially if they're parked. So this really helps the traffic flow.
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Yeah, I would think because of the location of the property, that's kind of a reasonable request.
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We think so.
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Thank you. So essentially the, the front yard,
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We pulled, I gave them all the dimensions of everything of what's permeable, not permeable,
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Yeah.
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Well,
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did notice that the city staff has approved. They, they made the recommendation to approve, which is a big statement. Yes, sir. To me. Anyway, thank you for your clarification.
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Thank you, gentlemen.
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Appreciate it.
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Thank you.
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Any more questions or comments from the board? I'll call for a vote. All in favor of
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Can
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we make sure we open it up to the general public before we do that? Thank you. Is there
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any
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more comments from the general public on this item?
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Okay, thank you. Now I'll call for the vote.
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All in
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favor.
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‸ I was gonna say, do we need to make a motion? Yes.
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Go make a motion for.
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I make a motion that we approve this with the contingencies that the city has recommended. Thank
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you very much. Second. Thank you very much. All in favor.
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Aye.
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All right. Very
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good.
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All right. Now we will move on to the second item on the agenda.
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George and Dragon British pub. The applicant seeks special reception approval to expand the outdoor seating area of existing bar and lounge located at the southeast corner
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A previous special
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Board of Adjustments at the September 9, 2019 Board of Adjustments meeting. The approval granted business operation in outdoor area adjacent to the southwest side of the building with 36 seats and seven parking stalls,
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Brevard Avenue.
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Here's the previously approved site plan providing 36 outdoor seatings within 588 square feet of space partially covered by awning surrounded by planters with a gate access and with the 7 parking spaces. The new proposed site layout eliminates 2 of the existing parking stalls on the south side of the property, reducing the total parking from 7 to 5. Also the layout increases the outdoor area by approximately 1500 square feet, accommodating 54 additional seats for a total of 90. ‸ And also they're adding a stage for live music performance. The tour bus also eliminates the user for the handicap stalls and as a consequence reduce the existing parking on the site. So here we highlighted the main points that I ‸ just addressed. And the staff recommends approval of the special reception in accordance with the Appendix A zoning article 11 section 13
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bar use ‸ in the
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and subject to the following conditions. And we have seven conditions listed here. Do I have to read ‸ the information?
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Okay. I can go through some of the conditions. So the applicant has to submit for a site plan amendment. And he
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for
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If the applicant decides to expand and large or extends a new special reception is, is required. ‸ And the total allowed now counted is 90 seats for the outdoor area.
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Okay. Let me see.
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There was a concern about the community. The community had a concern in question of the excessive noise.
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there are violations and there were
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Yeah. I just wanted to say for the record. I don't think I think number four. There may be other changes to some of the other ones, but I believe number four in the packet is different than what you have on the slides.
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Yeah. Because I believe the, the condition that should be in your staff report also states that they would need to utilize some sound dampening materials. Oh yeah. Provide. Yeah.
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is different.
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I think if you, the board members could look at your staff report for that condition. The
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last sentence there's one. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. We believe that if they can accommodate, um, if they can change the layout and the design for the stage in the, they probably can create a curve for the sounds and then maybe address the issue with the community.
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Let's see if I have here
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so I can read it.
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assembly to reduce
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levels.
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that's one of the recommendation number four is missing the information there. And then recommendation number five will be for the tour bus will not be permitted to be stored on site with the public right away such that parking spaces will be available for customers. Item number six.
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as part of the site plan
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application.
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And any other conditions deemed necessary, but a board of adjustments.
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Would the applicant like to come up and address the board?
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Yeah. Um, as far as the noise is concerned, I'm sorry,
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can I, I just need to swear ‸ in before you. ‸ Do you swear to tell the truth?
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Yes.
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And if you could just state your name and address for the record, please.
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with the, my home address or the address here, which one doesn't matter.
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As far as the noise is concerned, we've already made, um, adjustments.
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put the dot, the noise dampening material up already. Um, we've had a lot less complaints and a couple of other, a couple of complaints ‸ that we have had recently turned out to be, you know, frivolous kind of, because we had a couple of
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other complaints.
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Police officers that showed up less than five minutes after there was a complaint and there wasn't even a band on stage. So, and also the, the fact that we're working right now, we actually have a permit in for, um, to readjust the stage. We already paid them. He,
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the stage on has already applied for a permit and it was denied based on what was going on here.
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Uh, we have a couple other people involved that, um, we, they recommend, they asked me not to mention any names right now, but just to let you know that they did arrive at the scene a couple of times and not only found that our band had broken down, ‸ wasn't even on stage anymore, but two doors down, they were having to bend. And,
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um, that their band was still playing.
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and we've been working really hard to get net that knocked down. And for the past three months, all of our bands have complied and turned the noise level way down. We're getting about 70 to 80 decibels on site. Um, so for the, at the point of the complaint, there's no way it could be any more than what you guys allow 60 to 65, what ‸ the case may be. So we've worked really hard to get
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noise level down there. We've had a lot of success in that. Uh, the bands who have not complied, we let go. So they no longer played the harder, louder bands who cannot take the noise level down and no longer play at our place. So we have been really active. Some of the, I would just ask that some of the complaints that the city get, I kind of take a look at who's doing the complaining because it's, it's repeated. We had six pages of complaints and five and a half where this one person that I'm not going to mention names right now. Um, and the other five people on that list were anonymous. So
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understanding by certain permits have been denied because we've got to get past this. But that's as far as the noise is concerned, we're working really hard to get that knocked down. And we've had a lot of success in doing that. In fact, our, our bands now are actually coming to us during break and saying, Hey, how we sound is it low enough?
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We have decibel meters on site too, to make sure that they keep it down. So that's one thing we're really working on. The second thing about the bus, the bus is no longer a factor. It won't be parked there anymore. It's how we, we've already moved that along.
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It was temporary.
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Um, I just want to highlight to the board that the planning and zoning required. There's zoning requirements for the distance for residential area in
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pub does meet those requirements as distance. How
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So I just want to point that out that we did a full analysis of the site before we made a recommendation.
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Um, if that bank of America becomes residential, does that change things? Because that would obviously become their neighbor.
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I don't believe so. I could, I don't have the code in front of me, but I could, um, I can look at that and make sure if you come back to me.
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Okay. Yeah. And I have a question for the applicant.
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Um,
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just to clarify, there's still only going to be one stage or is this a stage in addition to the current stage?
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moving it. Okay.
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Thank you.
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‸ We've already put up dampening noise dampening material, ‸ but we're going to put more up when the stage is completed. Right now it's something that we put up ourselves.
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Well, I have one more question for staff actually. Um, the noise ordinance that the city has, there's no like timeframe of noise. It's decibels. Like the applicant said, correct?
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‸ That's enforced by the code enforcement, you know, and it's not really related with the zoning department, planning zoning department. We have a few other requirements.
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uh, we believe that there was a strong, um, concern about the community. So we decided to address
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um, like the applicant said, they do have a permit, uh, for a stage. Uh,
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a,
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in order for them to apply for those types of permits. And there's other, um, things that have to be addressed and
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when the applicant submits for a site planned amendment for the site. And then fire will be taking consideration. Other departments will be able to review that site and give their feedback. feedback and they will have to get a site plan approval before, um, the
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If I could just add a
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anecdote,
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never met the owner, any owners of the building. Um, I will agree with what he said about the bands being honest and asking questions. I had a guitar player come up to me as an audience member asking about the audience, uh, levels, um, at the establishment there. So I will say that they seemingly have put that on their bands to come out and make sure that noise levels are appropriate for the people in the audience, not just people that are farther down the block as well. So I appreciate that as being somebody that frequents the building.
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Any more questions for the applicant? ‸ Go ahead.
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Um, my question is directed to, uh, the, uh, city staff. In our, um, little packet here, I was looking for the staff's recommendation on, on this item. Um,
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I'm sorry, which item you said the number four?
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It's the item that we're on now. I was looking at my packet and
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which
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was just wanting to know what the recommendation was. I think it was for approval.
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Yes.
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Yeah. ‸ Okay.
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No,
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you.
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Any more questions. I do have one.
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are you aware of any outstanding, uh, code enforcement violations for noise against your property at this time?
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Not specifically, but I know there is, um, some violations out there and I have an attorney that I'm working with for that because it's not necessarily.
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There's other things that come into play here that, um, that
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who has really given us a hard time. So we're kind of stepping up and letting our attorney handle it from that point. So he, I'm sure he's aware of the noise ordinance violations or any, any issues that are out there, but I'm not aware of them specifically now.
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Okay. Thank you, but
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I will say just addressing what, what he said that, um, a lot of our
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are going out there and talking to people also because they know that we're pretty strict on that. And some of our bands have not been asked to come back and that's that words getting out
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Thank you for that. Sure.
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Um, if, if you would like, I can address your, uh,
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uh,
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for member Aliano's question. Um, so this property is actually located in the central business district. And so the,
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between, um, an establishment that's selling alcoholic beverages and a school church or residential zone does not apply in this particular. Uh,
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district.
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Um, however, even if you, even if it were, if it were outside of this district, the 300 feet would not,
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um,
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apply if let's say a residential development came in after the, um, the alcoholic beverages, uh, special exception was approved.
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granted a license, um, to be within that 300 feet. If they came in after, but residential is not a part of that. ‸ Thank you.
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All right. Thank you very much. Appreciate you. Answering questions. Any more questions, uh, from the audience? Anyone want to have a comment? All right.
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the motion with all the exceptions that the staff recommends.
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Thank you.
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Do
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I have a second?
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I'll second.
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Thank you.
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[00:27:04] Speaker 1
All in favor.
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Aye.
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Okay. You passed.
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Thank you.
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All right. Uh, I don't believe we have any more items. Correct. Just those two. Yes, that's correct. Um, any other comments or questions?
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Oh, I move. We adjourn. All right. Thank you very
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much. Everybody. Have a great week.
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