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‸ Please call roll.
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Okay. Bruce Gilmore.
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yeah Nancy Elliott yeah
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Caitlin Aliano. Robert Dyer.
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Here.
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Here.
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Pam Shia. Here. Patricia Weeks.
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Here.
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And Jenny Swisher. Thank you.
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Okay. I've determined that we have a quorum for all those who are able. Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.
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We could do them both at the same time. Unless there are any procedural changes, we can ‸ combine the two.
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could ask that we make an adjustment to the agenda tonight and we do the voting ‸ or selection of a new chairperson and co-chair to the end and make that change to the agenda and go on with the item and then bring that.
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Certainly. Do we need a motion
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on that? To amend the agenda, yes.
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Hmm?
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To amend the agenda, yes.
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So I move that we ‸ make that change. Okay. Thank you.
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Is there any seconds ‸ from the board? We need a second. ‸ Nancy? Nancy, second the motion. All those in favor say aye.
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Aye. Aye.
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motion carries unanimously. First on the agenda. Now we have
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to approve the minutes.
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and agenda, are we going to do those at the same?
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Yes. You can do the same.
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So, Nancy, are you making a motion? I
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move that we approve the amended agenda and the item number 22-252 minutes of the meeting of April 20th. I'll second.
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Okay. Motion has been seconded. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Under new business, consideration of an extension of time for item number 22-250. Does staff want to make a presentation?
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Yes, a quick one, please. Good evening.
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Thank you, Sandra.
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Thank you. We're here for an extension of a special exception for a drive-thru facility at 100 Illinois Avenue.
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The applicant entered into a development agreement with the city, but due to unforeseen issues, the one-year granted to obtain permits has expired.
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approve the first modification to the development agreement, where the applicant has seven months to obtain a site plan approval and 13 months to obtain building permits.
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of extension of the special exception for the
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drive-through
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facility. Do you have any questions?
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between an agenda item that claims to be limited to an extension of time, or are we approving the project itself? Because it's kind of confusing.
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in 2019. This is basically just to extend that already approved ‸ drive-thru facility. Correct.
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Now also, there
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So was it seven months or 13?
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There's two different things on that.
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for the building permits to get approved and be able to go vertical.
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That is correct,
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yes.
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Does that
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I believe so. ‸ If you have any other questions, maybe the attorney could chime in on that.
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comments that she'd like to address.
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Well, it says the motion here on the end of our... Yes, ‸ it's approval of
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today, correct.
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It's
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as of today.
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I saw it on this page.
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don't know where this is.
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permits.
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Okay, so that's the actual motion right
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Okay.
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This is Kristen. The recommended motion is included in the staff report, and that recommended motion is written in a fashion where it is essentially mirroring the time periods that the city council recommended in the first modifications of the development agreement. So that recommended motion language is ‸ provided for the board.
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Thank you. I do have a question. And I guess it's for the attorney. I'm a little confused. Shouldn't this have come before the board of adjustments first, before it went to council to ask for the extension? It was under consent with the council a month ago, and I would have thought it should have come to the board of adjustments first. Am I wrong in that thinking?
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‸ I mean, this is getting into some details, but if you recall, a development agreement was required for the project because of different, essentially, variances or waivers that were granted through that development agreement. And so the city council was also approval to grant an extension was also ‸ required. And so it was presented to the city council first because, again, the development agreement contained some of those variances and waivers that were needed.
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But it was under the consent agenda. It wasn't under an agenda item. So it
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was, I believe it was done under a consent agenda, but it was approved by the city council.
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Bruce,
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I'd like to say something.
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Okay. I don't know that this can be made a condition of the extension, but it would be very much appreciated if the property owners during this extension time would take care of, in addition to ownership of that property, and I'm referring to accumulated trash, unmown grass, and the proliferation of urban campers. We've had to rely on the Keep Brevard Beautiful Organization to keep the litter out of the lot. The police have had to do the work to keep the urban campers out of the lot. And it would go a long way towards showing your goodwill toward the village if that lot looked pristine during this extension period.
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don't know that we're going to add it to you, but you have my word. I'll make sure our maintenance crew addresses it. Sorry.
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Good evening.
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I was going to say, I'll make sure our maintenance crew addresses that.
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because people are just like driving over our landscaping, our bushes, our sprinkler systems. But we also thought that, you know, folks in the city may not like that because that parking is needed. So, you know, we haven't done that. I mean, if it was honestly up to me, I would have had it all chained up and nobody on there. So, but I'll ask our maintenance
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Thank you. Appreciate it.
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Yep.
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Yes. Thank you.
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[00:10:18] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice
Uh, I was wanting to ask, um, Sandra, under item B on your staff report. It's just a matter of clarity.
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And then in the staff finding it, it reads second sentence, the parking requirements for a fast food restaurant with drive-thru use are one space per 200 square feet, plus five stacking spaces for the drive-thru. And then it goes on to say, therefore, the drive-thru use would require 18 spaces. And it's like, huh? I don't get it.
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Well, the stacking isn't, uh, parking. Stacking is for when they're actually going into the drive-thru. So we're not counting that there's enough stacking space for five vehicles there.
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The 18 is for the square footage of the property. Yeah. The onsite parking.
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only slightly and provide a total of 46 parking spaces, significantly above the required number. So that's what you're referring to, but it says 18.
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be multiple.
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Correct. For that parking space, we'll have that
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many, that many, um, spaces available.
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So what I'm driving at is I would like for the board to consider, number one, that stacking spaces or cars that are waiting in the
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waiting to get served. Is that correct?
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That is correct.
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And I was wondering whether that's enough.
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because
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you're going to have it going East and West.
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Or is that not a concern at all?
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So you can't, I'm not, you know, a hundred percent certain of the time that it takes to serve somebody.
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pick up their item and keep going. So it's basically a matter of rotation. Go
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ahead, Kristen.
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I would recommend to the board that we, um, focus our attention on the request for an extension of time on the condition of approval because the special exception was already ‸ approved. Um, and so, you know, this is not intended to open up, um, reconsideration of, you know, the details of the special exception.
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Uh, thank you, ma'am. I understand that. But,
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uh,
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what a five stacking spaces are. So this is something new.
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this
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is
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exactly the same.
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it was in the staff
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report for 2020. Okay, so I guess
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that's really not in our purview and I, and, and we, uh, should kind of narrow it down and just
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Correct. I just, I do want to clarify though that the, um, there will be 12, um, there's actually enough for 12 cars to be stacked. Just so you know that that's available.
[00:14:40] Speaker 1
Okay. Okay. The other thing I want the board to understand is that, uh, when, when we go through in the future, future land use plan and say they want to, they want to widen the bridge to six lanes.
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[00:15:01] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
That would be an FDOT because that's a FDOT. ‸ I would think
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that the, uh, the, uh,
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the state DOT probably has already envisioned that and they must have something in mind. Otherwise they would not, um, allow you to, um, uh, ‸ redevelop, uh, that portion of downtown Cocoa. I would think.
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Have you had any, I mean, we, we haven't been getting, there's
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been no discussion of that.
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that'll be a eminent domain issue.
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Yeah. That's what I think. Yeah. But these are just things that, uh, the board should be aware of. And, uh, if we're done with our discussion and don't want to ask the, uh, applicant any more questions or any, any questions for the applicant.
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I can make a quick comment just based off of, um, some of the things you were stating, Bruce, uh, I was looking at, um, item K
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the agenda and it talks about, um, the use of this basically as a drive-through facility and
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not going to have the traffic volume, um, being that it's not quite, um, the most popular banking association in the area. Um, and it talks about, uh, there are multiple uses for foods in the rest of the village.
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multiple cars coming in at one time. I just, I know we're not looking at past results here, but I was not on the board when this was voted for. And that's just a question that I have. How are we honestly comparing this to a bank that has much fewer car flow and comparing the food services to sit down restaurants as opposed to a
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drive-thru
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[00:16:45] Speaker 11
facility in the middle of a major thoroughfare really?
[00:16:50] Speaker 1
So what you're doing is making the distinction between a fast food
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and
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a regular sit down restaurant.
[00:16:56] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice
I think that distinction should be made. And again, I think the distinction of this
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drive-thru
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facility versus a banking
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drive-thru
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facility is quite different knowing the magnitude of who is coming in to operate here.
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Yeah.
[00:17:16] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I've been told.
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here.
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I mean,
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was, you know, understand the question.
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been performed and
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signed off on
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it.
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[00:17:39] Speaker 11
So seeing that we're having to extend at this point, does that raise the question that a newer, more state of the art traffic study should come about?
[00:17:49] Speaker 7
There hasn't been any changes in that area.
[00:17:52] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Well, I would beg to differ based off the amount of houses and people that are moving into the area and other city votes calling for more houses to come to the area.
[00:18:01] Speaker 7
I understand your question. But again, this is, we are off the track of what we're here for.
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[00:18:12] Speaker 5
Go ahead.
[00:18:13] Speaker 12 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
We're processing right now a site plan for the site and it is not yet approved
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process.
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[00:18:33] Speaker 12 + overlapping voice
and updated for this. Um, I know currently that FDOT has been involved in the review and is reviewing the location of the driveways for this site. And all of that will be done prior to the release and approval before they open their door.
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[00:18:55] Speaker 12 + overlapping voice
The city goes through and that is being done. This is not the only approval that the site will, will get. So that is writing separately. Again, this is just for an extension of time. And if we weren't concerned about doing this, right, we would not be here asking for an extension of time. Trust me, they would be out the door and we would not be here asking for an extension of time.
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We
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are
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asking for this for ‸ the right way, making them come here and asking for an extension of time is doing this the right way. So we still have going through the site plan process. It is not approved.
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plan meeting with us. So get your ducks in a row and call us and come have a meeting. So that's still happening and they can all should be nodding yes right now and saying that. Okay. So just for clarification, they still have a hell of ‸ heavy lifting to do for us.
[00:19:51] Speaker 11
‸ I appreciate that clarification. And I just like to make sure that.
[00:19:54] Speaker 1
Excuse me. I have one question for you. Being that we're back a second time, we approved this with a one year and you're asking for seven months, I would like to ask you whether we should give more than seven months because ‸ things just don't work out the way in delays or something when you're looking into the future, particularly when it involves site plans.
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And I was thinking that the ‸ board, and I'm asking you whether you concur ‸ with this, is that the board should seriously consider going from seven months to one full 12-month year in their motion. Would that be something you would concur with?
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[00:20:53] Speaker 9 · Machine re-recognized
Yes.
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[00:20:56] Speaker 9
So if you refer to the recommended motion, ‸ that was drafted in such a way that we're actually not referencing a specific period of time. What we're trying to do, or what's suggested for the board's consideration, is marrying the time period here for the extension with what is in the first modification to the development agreement. What's in that currently is the seven months and the 13 months for building permits. However, we've said in this recommended motion that if the city council desired to provide an additional extension, that the board of adjustments special exception would be continuous and concurrent with that. So if there were a future desire on the city council's behalf to provide additional extensions, it would not need to come back to the board. So it was drafted with that intent in mind.
[00:22:06] Speaker 1
Thank you for your clarification. I have a question. Yes.
[00:22:12] Speaker 6
Just another clarification, if you would. It's my understanding that this has always been an agreement for a named, specifically named entity, which is the Starbucks. And yet we occasionally hear the term drive-thru restaurant used. And I just want to make sure that I understand that this is not a document approving a drive-thru restaurant.
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[00:22:47] Speaker 6
Is that correct?
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Correct.
[00:22:50] Speaker 9 + overlapping voice
Well, it is.
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It
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is. Oh, sorry.
[00:22:57] Speaker 7
Go ahead, Kristen. Sorry.
[00:22:59] Speaker 9
Okay. Yeah. The development agreement is for a nationally recognized coffee shop chain. So it is not specifically Starbucks, ‸ but it is a nationally recognized coffee shop chain and would not be any other type of restaurant.
[00:23:19] Speaker 6
Thank you. We aren't all of a sudden going to be switching to McDonald's because we've given approval for a drive-thru restaurant.
[00:23:27] Speaker 9
Correct.
[00:23:28] Speaker 6
Thank you.
[00:23:32] Speaker 4
But maybe don't.
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Ready for the
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special exception only applies to the applicant period.
[00:23:40] Speaker 7
Correct.
[00:23:41] Speaker 1
So it's not likely. It could end up to be a Dunkin' Donut.
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Not Starbucks. I
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hear
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you.
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[00:23:55] Speaker 5
As well. Nationally known. Mm-hmm.
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[00:23:59] Speaker 4
Yes. Okay.
[00:24:02] Speaker 9
And this is Kristen again. Just to make sure, since I can't see, do we have anybody else in the audience that would need ‸ to make any public comment before voting?
[00:24:15] Speaker 7
No, there's no public here.
[00:24:17] Speaker 9
Okay. Thank you.
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[00:24:21] Speaker 1
final thought that unless there's a real compelling reason to not approve this tonight, you would have to back that up with some facts that were believable.
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[00:24:39] Speaker 4
I move that we approve the two extension periods, the seven months and the 13 months.
[00:24:49] Speaker 9
So again, that is, this is Kristen. So if that's the motion of the board, that's fine to consider. However, we did provide a recommended motion and language.
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[00:25:01] Speaker 9 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
didn't see. Hold
[00:25:02] Speaker 4
on.
[00:25:03] Speaker 9 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
That's in the staff report. Okay.
[00:25:05] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I'll read it then.
[00:25:07] Speaker 9 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Thank you.
[00:25:08] Speaker 4
‸ I move to modify
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obtain site plan and building permits in accordance with the schedule contained in the first modification to development agreement ‸ approved by
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first modification. The special exception shall not become effective until the site plan and building permits have been obtained and developer has substantially commenced vertical construction of the project in accordance with the first modification.
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deemed null and void. It is the intent and purpose of this condition for the special exception to run concurrently with the development agreement.
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[00:26:12] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice
think we'll just call roll on this. Monica?
[00:26:16] Speaker 2
Yes.
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Robert Dyer?
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Yes.
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Yes. Thank you.
[00:26:32] Speaker 1
The motion approves unanimously.
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[00:26:50] Speaker 1
I'm under the motion.
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basis to allow other members to become chair and vice chair. Just a matter of professional development and growth. ‸ I think it's important for everyone on the board to have an opportunity should they so desire to
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a senior member of our board to chairperson.
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[00:27:51] Speaker 1
Shia as the vice chair. So, um, that's my motion. Do I have a second?
[00:28:00] Speaker 4
You guys want ‸ to?
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Um,
[00:28:12] Speaker 9 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
typically the way that we would do the election of chair and vice chair is you would open the floor for nominations, um, for each separately. Okay. Yeah. So, and then vote on any of those that are, are nominated.
[00:28:30] Speaker 1
Okay. So, um, I guess my two, uh, picks would be, um, considered in that and then
[00:28:38] Speaker 1 · Machine re-recognized
we did
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ask the board if they got any other nominations. Is that true? Fine. Okay. Uh, I'll open up the board.
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there any other, uh, nominations for chair and vice chair?
[00:28:54] Speaker 4
I'm willing, but they're, they're willing and that's good.
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[00:29:02] Speaker 1
Okay. Um, we'll just close the nomination process. So we've got the, um, the combination of the chair and the vice chair as one motion and one vote. So, um, I'll call the question and I'll let Monica, um,
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[00:29:21] Speaker 2
you ready?
[00:29:22] Speaker 1
Yeah.
[00:29:23] Speaker 2
Bruce Gilmore.
[00:29:24] Speaker 6
Yes.
[00:29:25] Speaker 2
Nancy Elliott.
[00:29:25] Speaker 6
Yes.
[00:29:26] Speaker 2
Robert Dyer.
[00:29:27] Speaker 6
Yes.
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[00:29:29] Speaker 6
Yes.
[00:29:30] Speaker 2
Pam Shia. Yes. And Patricia weeks. Yes. Thank you.
[00:29:33] Speaker 1
Okay. The votes unanimously. And, um, we have a new chair and a new vice chair. I welcome them, uh, the opportunity for, uh, their own personal and, uh, professional growth. That, um, they will, I'm confident that they will serve the office as well.
[00:29:52] Speaker 6
And thank you for your year of service. Yes.
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Yeah.
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[00:30:01] Speaker 1
And, um, I'm just a real stickler on a rotation because we do live in a democracy and we don't have, um, like dictators, um,
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or,
[00:30:14] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
uh, autocrats, I guess you would call them. But I think it's very important to, to, to have in mind to, uh, kind of rotate a little bit and give people this, the opportunity to, to be chairman and vice chair. I think it's very, very important for this. So
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and then somebody called to my attention and said, Hey, we need to, um, to make a motion to, uh, end the meeting. So
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adjourn. I'll second it.
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All those opposed. unanimous.
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[00:31:00] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices · Unclear audio
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[00:31:02] Attribution uncertain · Unclear audio
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Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings; a language review questioned the wording · 00:31:02–00:31:07 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
[00:31:02] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices · Unclear audio
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[00:31:04] Attribution uncertain · Unclear audio
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[00:31:04] Speaker 12 · Unclear audio
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[00:31:07] Speaker 12
let me know and I'll shoot you a copy of it.
[00:31:09] Attribution uncertain · Unclear audio
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Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings; a language review questioned the wording · 00:31:09–00:31:10 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
[00:31:09] Speaker 12 · Unclear audio
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[00:31:10] Attribution uncertain · Unclear audio
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[00:31:10] Speaker 12 · Unclear audio
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