Fire Pension

Fire Pension Regular Meeting

Date
2023-05-24
Status
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We're ready.
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We are ready. I, uh,
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Um,
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we have a quorum.
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Good morning everyone. Good to see everybody. As I usually do, I just ask you to flip a couple of slides to page... Your
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Sorry. Good morning.
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Good morning.
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As I usually do, I ask you to flip to page four for me, which is the economic overview page, just to give a perspective on what this quarter captured. And obviously, we're looking for the prior months here. Speak up.
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A little
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closer?
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Hello? Okay. Must be user error. Sorry. So, maybe not. It keeps going in and out.
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Right?
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Okay. Great. So, if you look at slide four, page four, in the upper left-hand corner of the page, the top line there shows GDP growth.
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obviously, we are slowing down a bit, right? For the prior quarter, you see 2.6. And then right now, we're annualizing at kind of a lower pace than ‸ that. The question is whether or not we will go into a recession. And even though the Fed officially says that we're not going to go into a recession, the odd thing is that the economists that work at the Fed believe we will go into a recession by the second half of this year. And it looks like we possibly might, but still, it's not 100% yet. But what that means for now is that until things clear up, there are going to be some volatile moments in the markets. However, unemployment is improving. As you see here, it's ‸ 3.5. At least when the report was created after this, it
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CPI also is improving.
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9%. And the Fed's long-term perspective on it, though, is close to 2%. So we still have a gap there yet, which is why the Fed, as you see here, raised interest rates again during this quarter. And they also raised it again after this quarter. So we came from a position of short-term interest rates being negligible, 0 to 25 basis points. Now
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So they raised interest rates 10 times to get to that level. That's a pretty rapid pace of raising interest rates. It looks like now we may be pausing. However, we shall see. And the reasons for the pause is, number one, as you may recall, during this past quarter, there was some challenges with some regional banks. Silicon Valley Bank, Signature Bank are the two big ones that you probably have heard about. And because of that, there
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If there's less lending, there's less business growth, so potentially may slow down the economy. So we'll have to see the effects of that. More current, of course, is what you can't get away from when you look at the TV or when you read the paper, is whether or not we're going to potentially default on our debt.
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trying to increase the amount of money that the U.S. can borrow. And there's a stalemate between what is being presented by the House and what the White House is willing to negotiate with. And, of course, the Treasury came out and said that potentially we would run out of money by June 1st. We shall see what happens. The
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No, I'm sorry, 12 years ago in 2011, where the U.S. debt actually did
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the
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U.S. credit rating actually was lowered because we went into the same type of situation. So there's a lot of posturing, but at some point, we will have a budget that is passed, and we will borrow more money again. But right now, it is causing a little bit of volatility. However, having said that, the past quarter
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row I highlight for you is the S&P 500, and that represents primarily large-cap stocks. That was up 7.5% for the quarter, better than mid-cap stocks and small-cap stocks. International return, similarly to domestic large-cap. In fact, it was a little bit better. The only place that we did have a negative return for the quarter of the major asset classes that we look at was real estate. Real estate was down 3%, while bonds were up about 3%. And the real estate decline, as you know, is something that we had talked about, and it is going to still work its way through the system. We
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have been embedded, and hopefully
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we'll
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have a turnaround. But now, if you look at the training 12 months, every single one of the major asset classes actually had a negative number in front of it. So it was a very difficult 12 months in the markets overall. The only other point I'll hit on here is in the bottom left-hand corner of the page. There was a dramatic difference if you were growth compared to core, compared to value, and large compared to mid compared to small. So you ‸ see large-cap growth was up over 14%, yet small-cap value actually was slightly down.
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or Apple or Nvidia, Meta, those are the types of stocks that did quite well. If I could ask you to flip to page 7 for me, and this is where we get our snapshot of different returns across varying periods. So we see here that the
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middle of the pack. It's actually pretty in line with our shadow index, slightly behind the policy index. It does bring the
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again, that's actually kind of similar to the shadow, but
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are top third or top quartile numbers. And again, all of those returns are pretty similar to the shadow index, a little bit behind the policy index. Primarily, it's because we do have a little bit of cash that did give us a little bit of drag.
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a little bit of under-performance relative to the policy index. A little overweight to real estate and a little ‸ overweight to cash. So, coming down the first column, and that's just a highlight for us that what the returns generated in each of the components. So equities, large cap equity was a little bit behind.
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International equities also a little bit ahead. And then we had real estate, of course, which ‸ was slightly negative, fixed income, slightly positive. So nothing dramatically above or below. And that's why the combined portfolio was in line with the shadow index.
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had about 38% large cap, 18% mid cap, 10% international. And then the balance was either real estate, fixed income or ‸ cash. So, when you look at it at a high level, nothing overly aggressive about the portfolio, right? So you're looking roughly about 65, 35% equity risk versus fixed income-like risk.
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On the right-hand corner of the page shows that we
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the portfolio off at just north of $23 million. But
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contributions, positive income, and positive capital gains, which is why we
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And
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pictorial depiction of the fund over the long period that we have here. And that dark line shows what the corpus has done. The dotted hash line is actually the blended assumption rate. So we're a little bit behind the blended assumption rate. And then the dotted line at the bottom is the cash flow line. So
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The positive is that, again, over the long term, this portfolio has increased. It's gone to the northeast. It's not a smooth ride, as we understand, but it does consistently go up over time, which is good. And even
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which is why we are where we are today. Page 9, just to see officially the asset allocation relative to our target. So
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have
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a little bit within
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guidelines, a little bit over, a little under allocated in certain pieces, but again, all within guidelines there. And then page
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to the components that we just saw a moment ago on page 7 and breaks out the two large cap managers. So as you know, we have large cap growth, large cap value.
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They were in line with the benchmark, top third of the universe. Over the long term, they've been a little bit behind the benchmark now because primarily they did have a little bit of underperformance, obviously, for the past year. But over time, they should bounce back. Brandywine was a little bit under for the quarter, but they've done nicely over the long term. The Hardman-Johnston had a nice quarter as we saw a moment ago. And then of course, Richmond Capital,
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you recall, their performance isn't going to rank particularly good all the time because they're so conservative. And the universe we compare them to is more broad in scope versus what their allocation is. So nothing too exciting. Just basic blocking and tackling. Good performance overall. Not spectacular. Not horrible. But I would expect that we will see some volatility from where we are today, at least through the early part of June. I wouldn't be surprised if the portfolio declines slightly, but hopefully we'll be right around what the ‸ assumption rate is for ‸ fiscal year. So with that, I'm happy to address any questions that you might have.
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Mr.
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Mr. Zimmerman.
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Is it time for us to think about pulling
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for some time. Well,
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think it, isn't that cash going out for drop payments now?
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Zimmerman.
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coming up. Yeah.
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Mr. Zimmerman. So
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Mr. Zimmerman. Yes. Although the R&D
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It's a fair question, but we, that's the primary reason why we raised a little bit of cash is because we had a couple of drops coming up.
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that we'd raise the money at our terms. Not all of a sudden we got to have it. So, yeah,
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Yeah.
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When is it? How much are you going to disperse in the next quarter? Do
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Yeah.
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I'm just giving you a ballpark, but that's what I thought was 1.2 is going to be distributed over a three month period or so.
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do you show Mr. Floyd? Do you have anything?
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Oh, no, I don't know. Oh, okay. I saw you. I was just looking to see when this battered him, but it looks like that. I'm
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Did it already come out?
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Well, this is as of March 31st.
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Was there an April one?
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In other words, 997 in cash, if we rolled out 310 for him, that 997 today might be less. Right. That would be after March 31st. Okay.
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And then
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Not
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next, Shane.
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Shane, yeah. He's
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Okay. The rollover went.
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Yeah. When we had prior discussions, we were talking about like about 400,000 ish coming out in April. And then we talked about another potential two more drops coming soon thereafter. So that's why we had built up a little cash going into it, especially because we knew the markets were going to be a little volatile anyway. Didn't hurt to have the cash. But we suspect that this money as long as the drops go through, it will be gone within the next couple of quarters.
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So a little bit under, just under one point.
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So we're probably close to $600,000 in cash. Yeah.
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But still it's a valid point what you said about checking with Richmond.
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Yeah. And maybe at the next meeting we can ask Richmond to come in and tell us, you know, I'm eager to go into fixed, to return to our normal investment.
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Now, the problem is that we got our money stuck in real estate and it looks like
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a long time coming before we can get any out.
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Well, the queue here is listed on
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Yeah,
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but anyway, if I would like to ask Richmond ‸ Sounds
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great. any Any objection by the members of the board? Sounds great. Mr.
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‸ Absolutely, yes. Thank
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of questions, Dave. uh ‸ I was at a board meeting last week, and they were talking about when their financial advisors spoke, he said that the the bank that failed in California was because a bunch of investors got together and said, let's make a call
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was just the fact that they saw a chance that they may lose money, and so they
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let me give you a little bit
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more background to that. So that
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way of explaining it. Okay.
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depositors that leave the money in your bank. right All of us have money in banks. And the way that banks work is that they take all these deposits, and for the benefit of getting those deposits, they give you a small amount of money, an interest rate. And then what they do is they take that money, and then they loan that money at a higher interest rate. And that differential is what they make, their interest income. Well, what happened with Silicon Valley Bank, number one, there was a run on the bank, meaning that people did take their money out, which is all well and good as long as you have the ‸ money to pay it out.
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took the money that was given to them, and then they invested the money in longer term debt. The problem with doing that, though, is that the longer term debt went down in value. And
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there we go
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they didn't have enough money. They became insolvent. They didn't have enough money to pay back people. So that was a little bit unusual because most banks do not take that type of risk. Even though it's all invested in Treasury bonds, notes, they still they still took duration risk. Duration meaning how
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debt is going to last relative to it being immediately needed. Again, most of the time, banks operate normally, and that's not a concern. But it's just like a wonderful life, the movie, right? You had ‸ a
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run on the bank, and then the bank goes belly up.
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to lose more than what they wanted to lose, so they
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them, so there's like a run on them.
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Yes. Okay. Yes. Okay.
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And so right now with Intercontinental, and i read their memos, we've seen that we have no exposure there.
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we're just in the queue to get our money, but they're also going to be one of those who go feel the effect of this for the next two or three years. so
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Yes. Yes. But that's a symptom of the entire real estate environment. Right. All real estate managers are feeling the same thing. But what I will highlight is that even though we are seeing some negative returns right now, our long-term returns on real estate is still quite good. uh The
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page 10, and you look at Intercontinental's return for the past five years. I can't say uh inception
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to date
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because the return there is from June of 2016, and the following line for Richmond is March of 2013. So the best apples to apples comparison is a five-year number, right? If you look at five years,
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you see there's a gap there. So we made that differential by moving some money to real estate, and
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returns that we're feeling right now. So obviously, as we put
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but there still will be a delta or differential between what we made with real estate and with fixed income.
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we're
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have since October 1 till now, how much our plan is up or down October 1 when we open the books for the new year?
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uh
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but I wanted to make sure that was correct.
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You mean in terms of the return or dollars? uh
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No, sir. Our actual value. of our our
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Okay. So I'm gonna ‸ have to look that up. I don't have it that's okay offhand.
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Yeah. So we are up almost
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mil, but we still have this final quarter to go through.
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Yes.
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had ‸ my calculations. so
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looking at exposure for the city's cost That's what I'm thinking of.
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just shy of 23 million.
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Okay. And now we're
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right so their projection on their on their their projection of how much they had to shore up is still about what they had planned on anyway in their budget. So, good. Thank you for that information. Anybody else for Mr.
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Lee, anything else for us?
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No, I was just gonna
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have him on for the next meeting. But he was paid out in April.
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April. Okay.
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Did you say proctor? But there's two in the draw but oh okay.
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Okay. So.
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Unless they had that moment at work. You know how that goes.
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I do. okay I've
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seen a couple of those lately. So,
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you know, while we're talking about it, I guess there's a couple ‸ people. We were because we got brought up to us the other day. about Well, I guess we can bring this up later when we're talking to
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about it. About some people that left and they didn't get returned to the stuff, but. I'll bring it up to you. Okay. Under
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admin. Yeah. ‸ Anything else? Mr. Lee? No, that was it. Thank you ‸ very much. Any other questions for Mr. Lee? You
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know, just curiosity. We were talking about this the other day. You
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discussing how like maybe the yen or maybe Chinese currency is trying to become the world backup currency instead of the dollar. Sure. What do you, what do you, have you looked into that?
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There's no danger of that happening yet. uh The dollar still is the reserve currency of the world. Reserve
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something major that I was watching that. If that happens, then we're going to get our debt called. ‸ Yeah.
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Well, I think the challenge is that people still aren't comfortable accepting the word of Chinese companies as to what their financial statements are. Right. ‸ So you just don't know sometimes what you're buying into, number one. Number two, you have a government there that effectively can say, I don't want you to be in business anymore and you shut down. ‸ So until that type of environment changes, I don't think that you could have the yuan as the default currency or a reserve currency of the world.
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did have one more thing for you, Mr. Lee. This occurred last night on the national news. Last week, there was a fake photo that came out and it showed a bombing near the Pentagon and the stock market reacted to
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vulnerable to one of those types of of of of reaction by the market?
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Yeah. So uh I was at a conference in Michigan just before I came here. And
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intelligence, AI. We live in a very interconnected world. One of the things that is a downside of that is information is instantaneously available and it becomes instantaneously incorporated into trading. If you have computers or quantitative strategies that take all these different inputs and they then trade on that information, as you know, you have markets all around the world so that can constantly trade, you're going to have that type of reflex reaction until information then gets verified and vetted. So unfortunately, you will see more of that. I think the greater challenge is that you have AI, which is starting to mimic what reality is. right And the question is, can you decipher what is real versus what is created? That's going to be the next challenge. well
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this was my explanation that was given to me was that that
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and then had to regain that money. Absolutely.
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um before
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then you then trade it based on that. it
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a little bit slower because obviously people still had to write out actual tickets. right uh Trading
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But if there is a way, will, there will be a way to try to snicker people. And that's what happened.
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So that it really did occur. And it's probably something they're going to
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with the rest of the time. ‸ Absolutely.
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right. Thank you very much.
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You're welcome.
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Kind of sad. All right. uh Who wants to give the explanation on the intercontinental correspondence? ‸ We have three pages of correspondence from internet from intercontinental. You want to give that Mr. Floyd? Yeah.
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I think we actually already discussed it mostly. uh
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queue. So yeah it's pretty straightforward. Silicon Valley Bank, they just notified you, then notified followed up you know to say everything worked as planned. And then
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right now.
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All right. And it was on our agenda. That's
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the intercontinental information. Well, now anything else, Mr. Lee?
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uh If it's okay, I have a conference call.
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I want to explain the the letter we got about withdrawal. all
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the queue?
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I can do it.
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All right, thank you. I'm just opening up, yeah.
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Yeah, so if you yeah so notice of redemption queue. I mean, effectively, intercontinental, uh for the first time, had a redemption request that exceeded their cash on hand. So in that case, what they do is they set up a queue. So if you wanted to pull your cash or pull your investment out of intercontinental, uh then they're setting cash aside to do that. And so you can see in the second paragraph of that letter,
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the outstanding redemption
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But what they can't do is they're not going to rush out to market and sell properties at a lower value, like a fire sale, in order to raise cash and pay off investors. uh I mean,
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of any real estate investment, uh unless you do like a REIT, which you can trade uh like a, ‸ you know, yeah, you trade on the open market, you know. But so when we have a direct investment like this, that means it's always going to happen.
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How much did we receive from intercontinental? I
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uh Let me see. I know that most of our clients received a very small amount of money.
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now. That's a negative number. I
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It would probably be against the fees, that's why.
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April.
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so
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that's the that's the amount of
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How big is
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what's going to happen is that it's
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not concerning because what will happen is that once real estate starts coming back, people will take them a queue request and then cancel the queue request.
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Right.
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Pro rata. Yeah. It's pro rata. so i'm just
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asking you I'm
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I understand the process. Yes. So
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to cash in the whole thing.
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Yes. Although, although again,
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right. ‸ But again, we're
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arguing that says no, we don't want to do that.
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‸ right. ‸ No, no, ‸ we're going to be a drop in the bucket relative to what the queue is anyway. So our pro rata share is still not going to move a dramatic amount. Right.
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million dollars that are on the redemption queue, we're ‸ small percentage of the redemption queue. And therefore, we'll only get a small percentage back anyway. what
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out of 700.
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than that, but still
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negotiate the queue in order to gain the queue in order to get more money. Right. ‸ Okay.
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I just wanted
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to understand.
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Absolutely. yeah yes Yes.
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if we get that much every quarter.
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we should We should accept and acknowledge it. uh Content, I think it may be a wrong word because we're not happy that we're obviously not getting back the money, but we accept it. It's part ‸ the process. We understand it. And we believe that
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And at some point ‸ time, we also hopefully will just cancel our request. yeah Yeah. But good question.
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All right. Anything else for Mr. Lee or Mr. Floyd concerning our investments? You want to set the date of the next meeting while David's still
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here because he's going to go.
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I have a conference call. Okay. i have to jump on
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oh that's right. You're set up next door. Yes. Yes.
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Yeah. I know it's a little bit out of order, but if you all wouldn't mind.
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‸ is usually when we do it.
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Yes.
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And what looks good for y'all?
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‸ You want to keep the same week? Week about the
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21st roughly? for the second week? Third or ‸ last week's what we usually do. Whatever works for you guys as well.
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‸ Monday the 21st? Works for me. Monday the 21st? No. Margie? Not
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much.
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that might be that Yeah, that's fine. What
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about, I mean, we're oh ‸ she just said that's fine oh
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on. shift
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23rd.
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good for
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‸ I'll be there. ‸ you need
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to call in your secretary first. All right. Thank you.
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the
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In this chambers at 9
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understood.
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You told us last meeting you had this coming up. So we
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appreciate the flexibility. uh
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you need me. All right. Thanks again. Thank you.
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all right Take care.
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okay perfect
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Mr.
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looking at the agenda, the first item on the agenda is the status of medical review for disability recipients. We're down to one. It's.
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you know, frankly, my recommendation the board is. That we just let it go for this time. I mean, we've had interactions with Miss Nelson, not necessarily related to this. uh you know So we know that she's still around. We know that her situation hasn't particularly changed. To me, that's sufficient.
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still disabled, you know that they're not gaming the system. I don't think we have any reason to believe that of her. ‸ And I think we all know why we probably haven't heard from her, even though I haven't independently verified that. uh So my recommendation would be that, all right, we call it good for this round. And then in 12 to 18 months, we'll start all over again. Do it for everybody.
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okay
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um
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uh Margie put that in your packet. uh So you'll
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credited under the retainer versus the flat fee billed. So just so everybody understands the way that works, this goes back to August of 2000. So we're approaching 23 years of history here. uh But going back to August of 2000, we have billed you a flat fee, right? So attendance at meetings, legal work, say for litigation. That's the only thing that is billed separately. And litigation's over on the right. Fees billed outside the retainer.
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Right.
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But all your other legal work is covered under the flat fee. So going
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on a monthly basis, your flat fee has been 1561 And the fees bill would have been 1450
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from what
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past three years. I mean, 2021
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if we were billing on an hourly basis. So it's
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and revert back into your favor. But we just want to you know always keep you informed of how that budget billing process goes.
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Thank you. Any questions for Mr. Floyd on this?
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Yeah, my drop funds? I wish. I know. I look at the
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drop payouts. I'm like, yeah
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Law school. Was that really a good choice? No. Just kidding.
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uh I
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you know, we
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I don't think we need to rehash any of that. We talked primarily about HB3. That did go through. uh So we're not going to be able to use any ESG, environmental, social, governance considerations, in making our investment choices. I don't think we need to go through that again. What I gave you here are some is a little summary of tax law changes. So these are federal uh internal revenue code changes that do apply to the fund. This is a summary of what might impact you as a public sector. As you might imagine, when we're talking about federal changes, the impact on the public sector is sort of minimal. uh There are a lot more impacts on private sector pension funds, for example. But there are some impacts on your public sector. So I kind of highlighted those here. Some of them are will probably never affect us, but they could. But some of them do have direct impact. We'll start with the RMDs. So required minimum distributions. Right now, the required minimum distributions begin at 72. That goes up to 73 or went up, I should say, to 73 January 1st. And in 2032, January 1 of 2033, to be precise, it's going to go up to 75. So what
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Because when you leave, you've got to do something with your drop money. You
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money here,
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You could see an impact in this fund if we have a like
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and they never come back and claim the money. We got to start paying out. You know, all of this money is tax deferred. And eventually Uncle Sam says, hey, you can't just leave that money tax sheltered forever. you got to start taking ‸ at some point because I need a little piece of that. So that's effectively what it is. Probably won't have any impact on this fund. Very rare chance that it could. But
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what happens with that?
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Same. Yeah, got to take the money.
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Okay, so do we have to pay the taxes on that then? Well,
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we don't pay
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funds were not distributed. And it's within our plan.
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And then we don't get to keep the money. Okay. Okay. That's what I
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I didn't know whether it fell back into I know it's not.
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we
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[00:40:58] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
there's going to be family somewhere. Right. you know And so to the extent the estate finds family, you know they're going to go down children, then they'll go up parents, grandparents, then they go sideways. And if they still haven't found anybody, then they go sideways and down, then sideways and up. okay You know, there's an entire, if you look through estate planning, there's an ‸ entire tree that you follow. Okay. You know, uh so eventually they're gonna ‸ find somebody somewhere, even if it's your long lost fifth cousin, 18 times removed, like, hey, here's some money for you. We would always owe the money to the estate, but we don't pay taxes. When we do pay it out, the person who sees it's gonna ‸ have to pay income tax. That's what Uncle Sam wants. Okay. uh The next part is over
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uh So they give you a lot more flexibility with ‸ regard to whether or not you're going to actually pursue an over equipment you know I mean, I'm sorry, an over payment over
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and recruitment you know And we've had this situation before where we've had some over payments and you know you look at it and you say, okay, look, we'll make an effort to try to recover the money. But if they're small amounts, you're not going to throw good money after bad because you don't get to recoup, for example, attorney's fees that you incur chasing collection efforts against ‸ somebody who owes you money. So that's always been a balancing test for the board of trustees. How far are we going to go? And they actually modified the law to say, you really don't have to go that far. If you determine, you know, that maybe if the overpayment was your fault and you decide, you know what, it's our bad, send a letter. If they don't respond, you
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it go. ‸ you'll have greater discretion as fiduciaries to do that. If you overpay somebody who is continuing to receive a benefit, you can self-help. Like you can reduce their future monthly payments. And they put restrictions on that, how much you can reduce their payments. And if you overpay somebody who has died and the money's going to a beneficiary, then you have to pursue that separately. So if we had a firefighter who passed away and we overpaid the firefighter and now the beneficiary is collecting
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So what we paid to the firefighter is not the obligation of the beneficiary. We can't self-help out of the beneficiary's benefit.
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We
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can still sue them if
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benefit because they're not the ones that were at fault. You know, it's like when, if, if I kept a secret credit card and died and, you know, visa or MasterCard or whoever goes to my wife and goes, Hey, he racked up all these charges, ‸ us money. And she's like, oh I had no knowledge. And legitimately she had no knowledge. I did it all on my own. They can't hold her responsible for that debt. Sort of the same concept.
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I should say
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monies by your required minimum distribution date, you got hit ‸ with an excise tax of 50 They
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reduce
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that to 25. And if you self-correct within two years, that can go down to 10. the
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to
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it in here because you could see
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you got to take that money by your required minimum distribution date. And if you don't, you could get hit with that excise tax.
[00:44:28] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Yeah. ‸ What's nice is the fact is they rolled the age back. You don't have to take as early. You don't have to pay taxes early. But, and the downfall is when you do pay the taxes, you could pay more taxes because
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it was
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less taxes back here.
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so It's true. Well, it
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‸ They created a retirement savings lost and found. So this will look like
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a lot like Florida. You
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can go check to see if you have any money. They're going to create one for retirement savings. You know, we'll see. The Department
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to be charged with setting up this website where you could go enter your information. And if we do have a participant that we lose contact with, we should register them on that website. And say, Hey, so and so was a firefighter here. Vested deferred benefit. We never heard from them again. You know, go to this website
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earlier.
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yeah
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refund of contributions. Yeah. I mean, that, that would be. So
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that might be something that that would fall under too.
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Yep. Absolutely. uh Dollar limit on mandatory distributions. So right now, if somebody has a benefit with a present
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That number goes
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fund, probably not really likely to see.
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a firefighter with the, let's say
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to that 10 years and passed away, the
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that case, we're not going to pay them over the months. We're
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Expansion of employee compliance. This is just legalese. It's technical, but if we're not in compliance with the Internal Revenue Code, they opened up a measure for you to self-correct. And as long as you amend and come into compliance, then they're going to leave you alone. Exclusion of disability benefits. This will affect firefighters. Note, this does not begin until December 31, 2026, years beginning after that date.
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[00:46:52] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
a service connected disability benefit will be able to continue to deduct that disability benefit from their gross income even after they reach normal retirement age. ‸ So that used to convert. When you reach normal retirement age, now you get taxed on it because now it's more like your pension benefit. But we're not going to do that anymore after January 1 of 2027 the next one will impact you all not necessarily this fund but it'll impact you as firefighters.
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from that plan to your health insurance provider in retirement, and that
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Now, you no longer have that direct pay requirement. So you can take money out of the 457, and you can pay your health insurance premiums just out of your personal checking account, and then when you do ‸ your taxes, you could exclude the three
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gross income.
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[00:47:59] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Because you had to put in the claim form. The payment had to be issued directly to the provider. It is a real pain. That is now alleviated.
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next one also starts January 1st, 2023, and that expands the exemption from the early withdrawal penalty. So right now, if you take an early withdrawal from a qualified plan, you get a 10 excise tax added. There's an exemption from that for firefighters that if you had, if you were age 50, so normally it'd be 59 and a half for firefighter. Well, first responders, but your firefighters, so yeah it was age 50. Now it's going to be 25 years of service with the employer sponsoring the plan
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or
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age 50.
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service with the city then you will no longer
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is I
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was like I didn't even realize that one. yeah Well,
[00:49:11] Speaker 5
yeah, it used to be a problem because if you didn't take the money when you left, then you
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And that's ‸ you know can be a long time for a firefighter.
[00:49:18] Speaker 3
yeah
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And then the last one is just a requirement. we will not affect us, but you're required to issue a paper statement at least once every three years. Well,
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a lot of people have gone to electronic statements. You got to issue at least one in paper every three years so that this it says secure act 2.0 just just FYI this was passed December 24th so some of these things took effect January 1st but it was part of the omnibus bill the huge bill that was passed last minute at the end of the year. This is just one little part of it, but it's the part that affects you so I thought you might like to know and outside of that I don't have anything further all
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right
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anything from mr. floyd mr.
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go to item c of reports and that'll be mr. adcock
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I don't have anything other than the warrants and the benefit approvals. Okay.
[00:50:23] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice
All right. We'll get those approvals in just a moment. And while we still have her here, are there two individuals? ‸ you know their names that
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They can
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just contact our office I mean if you know that I
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they were only there he was I said I'm great it's
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don't understand it's
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all it's a mess
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through to find all her stuff she
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I didn't know about it they
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city sends us. Well,
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they're that's what the problem was right there. They said that the city is not sending stuff correctly sometimes to you guys. So
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that that could be a problem yeah I mean
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Yeah. But the member has to call and fill out paperwork if they want to refund their
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contributions yeah well so then well
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they ‸ I mean to be clear if we owe somebody money, we will pay them. oh yeah. you know it's not like any
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the city and the city would direct them to, you here, go for health insurance or, you know, whatever, pension, ‸ And they, the member should call us and fill
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out paperwork.
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‸ There was another person. There was two of them that they told me the other day. And this was all just like coffee table in
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morning. Well, somebody told me they need
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And they kind of caught me
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let me know and I can look and see if we
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you're saying neither one of these would have even been vested. No.
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This
[00:52:14] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
would have just been a return of contributions. Okay. And
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It was Gomez. Yeah. william gomez that was the other one I think there's so many
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guys know like Hey, over here. save that question We should go to the board and the district office and just check all those meetings okay yeah geez
[00:52:52] Speaker 5
What are you doing? leave them for other departments?
[00:52:53] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Yeah. oh yeah. They just come, get their job. They get a couple.
[00:52:58] Speaker 5
Training, grow.
[00:52:58] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Experience, and then they go get hired wherever they wanted to get hired. It's just been crazy. Thanks. for down like What
[00:53:06] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · Machine re-recognized
did we
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say? Eight spots now?
[00:53:12] Speaker 2
‸ So Gomez
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his name ‸ but that's what, when I saw these names, I was
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and then
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‸ firefighters man
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[00:53:41] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice
was supposed to do. So I could just see him just being like, oh
[00:53:44] Speaker 1
wow,
[00:53:44] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
dude, I got money coming. Today's
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my
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last day.
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‸ my check
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Sometimes the city will send us. um ‸ my money
[00:53:55] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
not even now
[00:53:58] Speaker 2
Like if
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I think there's some weird communication breakdown. Well, I think
[00:54:04] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
it's, maybe it was. I mean, it seems to be fine right now. They're, uh oh here
[00:54:09] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · Machine re-recognized
we
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just give me one more second,
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[00:54:23] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
So the city usually sends us an email saying, Hey, so and so's last day is whatever. Yeah.
[00:54:27] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I
[00:54:28] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
mean, I, I take that. I put that like in a member file, you know, but I don't go reaching out to the people. I mean, they need to contact me and then they'll get so. Well,
[00:54:36] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
the other We wouldn't necessarily do that because you can leave your contributions in the plant for five years. And if you come back, you pick up where you left
[00:54:44] Attribution uncertain
off
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because
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[00:54:49] Speaker 5
sometimes people will do that especially if you were only here for a little you're talking about a small chunk of change i'll leave it and then if i come back in three years i'll pick up where i left off! yeah
[00:54:59] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
So, it doesn't look like Gray was paid out. I did get, I have an email from the city that said that he terminated on October 2021. And then that, so that was it. And he never contacted us to get a refund.
[00:55:11] Speaker 4
So,
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yeah So, then he would just call our office and we'd get him an application, which is, it's just a two-page name, address. How
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they were supposed to do. They just they got to come claim the money. yeah
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city doesn't tell them to
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[00:55:41] Speaker 3
just wanted to know how the process was anyway because when people leave and they ask me, I'm like, I don't really know. I know they tell you, but.
[00:55:46] Speaker 5
All they get to do is call resource centers.
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oh taylor
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oh okay maybe Maybe a year and a half ago.
[00:56:00] Speaker 5
Is it Morgan Taylor or Taylor Morgan?
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[00:56:06] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
that's all right. Thank you. Yeah.
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two first names, we, you know, we sympathize.
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um ‸ Looks like she took her.
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talked to
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yeah and yeah she took it oh in
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[00:56:33] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice
‸ Well,
[00:56:33] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
you have, you still have your separate board for retirement, right? Do ‸ y'all, y'all have a union, a city board, a union board and a retirement board, right? yes Why don't you just post on there any questions regarding your benefits, contact resource centers. Put their number on there. Well, they
[00:56:48] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
should know that anyway. I mean, they get ‸ they,
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most
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I mean, if we send
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[00:56:55] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
members get the employee benefit statements ‸ it has on there are all our information.
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[00:57:02] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice
Yeah. Do you know what happened with the, with this issue with Lori's thing about confirming time and Mark, this might even be a question for you.
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[00:57:10] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Yeah, we were,
[00:57:11] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
um ‸ she's good.
[00:57:12] Speaker 3
So that, so that she ended up being over
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[00:57:17] Speaker 2
because they, they, uh the ordinance, unless you want to talk to it, the ordinance provides. yeah,
[00:57:21] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I mean, it's not the first time. It's, it's not the first time that we've had to cross this bridge, but I mean,
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[00:57:29] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice
So when you're on unpaid leave of absence, is not a, like, we don't toll that time period. You continue. Now you're not accruing a benefit because you know, when you go, if you went to calculate your AFC, it's
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your benefit didn't increase. So instead
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to get, she only got, her
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so she get 30. For
[00:57:59] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
salary. that
[00:58:00] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
The AFC that you would multiply that against is not increasing. I
[00:58:04] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
got
[00:58:04] Speaker 5
you.
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right Her pot still stays the same, whatever was left in there. So
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[00:58:11] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
actually ended up getting credited like 10 years in a month then or something.
[00:58:14] Speaker 1
Yeah. she Well,
[00:58:16] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
because she was, she was, uh I think March 18th was her 10 years, but we didn't have a final answer for her. And we didn't want her to leave. Right. I
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first and then we checked with the city to make sure that they were in agreement with, you know, everyone was on.
[00:58:34] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
‸ the breakdown was because they were saying contact you and then
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file. I
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city to verify the dates. you
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[00:58:52] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice
out for this time period back here Yeah. Once we verify that, then we do the, okay. That's one, two, three, four. oh yeah. You're over 10 years. okay You're good. okay And it's not the first time that we've had this. So, yeah, no, we
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a similar situation.
[00:59:21] Speaker 3
Okay. Cool.
[00:59:23] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
All right. We have before ‸ the unfinished business would be the warrants. yes
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warrant
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[00:59:35] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice
Yes. Need
[00:59:38] Speaker 4
a motion.
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Motion
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[00:59:46] Speaker 1
Any discussion gentlemen? all right Hearing none. All those in favor
[00:59:51] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
say aye. ‸ Any
[00:59:53] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
opposed say nay. Motion carries.
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[01:00:08] Speaker 1 · Machine re-recognized
Second by Mr. Madden. Any other discussion?
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Okay.
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already made reservations through? Yeah. Okay, good. Did
[01:00:35] Speaker 3
you see my email
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we need to like start including taxes in? ‸ the room? because No. Otherwise they they stuck me with the taxes. No.
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The
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not sure what happened
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with that.
[01:01:01] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice
Okay. Okay. okay but And then they got they
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got us for some fees. It wasn't much money. ‸ like eight
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But it's something like, what in the world? They're like, oh there's a, there's a Orange County fee that didn't get paid on your check. and Did
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oh man. i
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Usually, usually we'll end up buying other stuff on the room thing over there. So by the time we got to
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[01:01:34] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice
All
[01:01:35] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice
right. So we're set for the conference. Our next meeting will be
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Anything else before the board? Mr. Zimmerman
[01:01:44] Speaker 4
no
[01:01:45] Speaker 1
mr cox mr lang nope mr madden
[01:01:48] Speaker 4
hearing none
[01:01:50] Speaker 1
i'll take a motion for adjournment Motion by Mr. Madden to adjourn. All in
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