Get it done?

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Yeah. It's a holiday weekend. Let's get it rolling. Let's do it.

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We'll do an invocation and a pledge.

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It is now 6 p.m. and I hereby call this meeting to order. I got my agenda in front of me. There we go. All please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance.

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allegiance

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to

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the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Would anyone like to bother to lead us in a word of prayer?

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I guess it's me. Feel free. All right. You don't mind. Bow your heads. Father God, we ask your guidance. We ask your influence in making decisions that affect the good citizens of the city of Cocoa. And we ask that you protect those citizens who have less and are unable to do more themselves, that we give them the opportunity to live well in the city of Cocoa. Amen. ‸ Please be seated.

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At this time,

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have a roll call, please and thank you.

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Bookhart.

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Here.

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Kathy Hamilton Brown.

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Absolutely.

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Alton Edmonds.

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Present.

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Barbie Brower. Marlene Weiss. Here. Demetrius Thomas. Here.

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Present.

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All right. at this time,

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ask that you take a quick moment. Members of this committee to take a look at our agenda for this evening. And after you've had a brief moment to review it, I will entertain a motion for the approval of this evening's agenda.

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I motion to approve the agenda.

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Do I hear a second? I hear a second. All in favor, please signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed? The motion passes unanimously. We

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from Mr. Thomas. Demetrius Thomas. All right. How about a moment to review our minutes from our March 23rd agenda.

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For any corrections.

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you ready, I'll entertain a motion for approval or corrections as to the March 23rd, 2023 agenda.

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Make a motion

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we have a motion from Mr.

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Demetrius Thomas to approve as they are. Do

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Any opposed? That motion also passes unanimously.

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so much.

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All right. Well, let's

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go ahead and dive ‸ in here. At this time, any questions, comments? Well, I guess I'll go ahead and read it first.

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made a complaint to Human Resources, alleging

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that Sergeant William Stevenson created a hostile work environment during the time he was assigned to the Community Engagement Unit. This case was investigated by Sergeant Bradshaw. The following is the investigative conclusion. There was no evidence

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allegation of a hostile work environment. The conclusion of fact was unfounded against Sergeant Stevenson. Any questions, comments, or concerns from the committee about this item? All righty. um Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion at this time as to whether we want to uh approve or confirm the findings as it relates to the disciplinary action and or lack thereof as to item 22-20-CC.

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I motion to accept the uh findings uh as unfounded.

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Motion to accept this unfounded. Do I hear a second? I'll second it. ‸ have a second from Mr. Bookhart. All in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? This motion passes unanimously.

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Complaintant

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‸ On October 13, 2022, Officer Hilliard was dispatched to a call at the Village Green Apartment Complex. Security guard Michael Ullery, I probably butchered that,

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while Tron's Auto Repair and Towing removed the vehicle from the property.

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was ‸ attempting to load Dexter Bray's vehicle that was parked in front of apartment number 83 onto a tow truck. Bray had exited apartment number 83 with a firearm in his hand and pointed it,

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assume

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that it meant

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and fired at Bray. Officer Hilliard had arrived on scene. He observed Bray with the firearm and fired at Bray. This case was investigated by Sergeant C. Bradshaw. The following is the investigative conclusion. Officer Hilliard acted lawfully and properly in performing his duties as a police officer on October 13, 2022, when he discharged his

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danger of being killed by Dexter.

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State Statute,

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statements

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determined that Officer Hilliard's actions in this case are within policy and Florida State Statute.

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Any questions, comments, or concerns as it relates to this item?

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Madam Chair, mr chair I want to add

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something.

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This probably shouldn't have made it here. Yes, sir.

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officer is involved in a shooting, um the uh state attorney determines whether there's any criminal acts, and then, you know, that's dealt with accordingly, so it was determined there's no criminal act. So at that point, from our perspective, from the police department, we do an administrative review, uh just to make sure that the officer didn't violate any policies and things of ‸ nature, to determine if there's any possible violations, and determine do we need to do an additional training. And so this is a miss on my part, by putting this in here, because this was not necessarily a complaint, this was an in-house review of a police shooting.

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Appreciate the transparency nonetheless. right I'd

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have too much information than not enough. I don't, ‸ but

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did a thorough investigation

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and

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interview of uh Hillard also and determined that uh he was within uh the law.

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Yes, just just so ‸ I'm glad you mentioned that. So to add to that, so anytime our officers involved in

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did the actual investigation, and then they provide that summary to me in the state attorney's office. And then we take that, once the state attorney is complete

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report, and then we'll uh interview our officer, and then we'll make a determination rather ‸ some additional training uh ‸ any other policy violations you know occurred. so

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Understood. yes Thank

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you.

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um um

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it onto the agenda, I'll entertain a motion um to determine if we will um accept that and and move on from item number two.

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a second? Second.

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in favor please please signify by saying aye

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aye. Aye.

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Any opposed? that motion also passes unanimously moving on to item number three on the agenda we're moving we're moving along aren't we 22-22-cc the complainant alleges that her daughters informed her that while they were sitting on the steps outside of the building that a white male approached them and identified himself as a police officer and was filming them her daughters were with the third female approximately the same age

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would be filming them.

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number 40. this

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conclusion The investigation shows that the statements from the complainants came from their juvenile children and were not first-hand accounts of the alleged incident.

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allegations were inaccurate and hold no merit. The statement from the property manager confirms officer

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at the apartment complex.

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as it relates to this item? Hearing none, I will entertain a motion as to uh what the committee would like to do as it relates to this item.

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exoneration. Okay, uh do I hear a

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second?

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uh ‸ second. all

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righty uh we have a second um from committee member Weiss. um All in favor, please signify by saying aye aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed? The motion passes unanimously as it relates to item number three to accept the findings. Moving on to number four. 22-24-IA. uh I'm assuming that is meant to be complaint as opposed to compliant. complaint Complaint Sergeant Amy Moon. Allegation.

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Cox, uh hearing after Detective Cox, misused the data by conducting inquiries on the victim's name and vehicle information on two separate occasions. This case was investigated by Sergeant C. Bradshaw. The following is

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inquiries on the victim on September 2nd and 9th, 2022, using the purpose code 036

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he stated that he knew these inquiries were conducted in violation of policy and agreement the

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agreement

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um with Florida Department Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles.

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conclusion of fact was

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any um discussion as it relates to this item

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yeah i think for the purposes of the board uh uh uh commander duval could you explain a little bit about david and and the use yeah

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so david is an acronym for basically the driver's license database that we have available to us and it's very restrictive on the reasons why you use it you know you have to state the reasons specific reasons on why

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you use in

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the database so one of the policy violations is to use it for personal reasons and that's kind of what he did on this one to run his

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not an authorized um reason. So that's that's the violation there.

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um

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So we don't like to get into the details of the discipline, um but um

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in here? Did we try to

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A verbal rapper man Okay, it's on there.

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Okay. Verbal reprimand. Got it. Excellent. Which is, which

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is considered discipline.

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Yes, sir. And because it's, um not in the brief summary, I asked about it so that it can be a part of the record. because I know that one of the things that we do as a committee, and I understand that the discipline isn't always something that people might want to know about, but I understand for purposes of what we do, um if for whatever reason we believe that that discipline is excessive or, or insufficient, one of the things that we do is make recommendations. So from time to time, we might ask about it, even if it, you know, isn't something that's primarily, or usually

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time. I promise you

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from the committee.

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‸ You know, I just want to kind of add to a little bit more about this David audit. So, um when, when they log into the system, it says you will use it for business. So that's pretty clear right there. So, uh we do the, we do those audits, uh regular to police ourselves. um and, uh when we find those violations, we make sure we take the right action. So he was, there's a pretty serious discipline too, for his first defense

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This, this is, and the reason why we do it, this has been a, a database that has been widely abused over the years. um years ago, we didn't have independent sign-ons. It used to be one sign-on for the agency. So anybody could run anybody and really not know who ran it. So actually,

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got, you know, caught doing the same thing by using it for personal reasons or just being nosy and running famous people. So that's why this is such a restrictive um program because it has a lot of information, private information of anybody in the state of Florida with a driver's license or an ID card. So that's and there's another component to that where you add ‸ emergency contact information. So you put your wife or your child in there to notify them in the event that you were you were involved in a serious accident and we didn't

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So that's why the discipline was so severe on this one time.

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It's definitely understandable. um Just speaking from the perspective, stepping out of my uh position as chair and stepping into my position as attorney um

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you know all u.s citizens have a sixth Amendment right against unreasonable searches and seizures. And uh it's considered a search uh when someone is looking into information that is not available to the public um

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frowned upon. And so um even going a step further,

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if someone is abusing these databases um and misusing information that someone expects to be uh confidential and has an expectation of privacy in that information.

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of reasons. Well,

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I think that you ought to uh look at also the uh civil actions that you can take uh as as a complainant when you find out that somebody has utilized the system improperly. So that's been my experience that police agencies particularly don't want to have this happen at all. And they utilize their means ‸ of review to determine that somebody is not abusing the system. When a complaint comes forward, they address it such as the chief did in this case. uh And that's important for another reason, because uh

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agency. So if there's misuse uh of the system that's not addressed, they they stand the uh loss of the ‸ opportunity to utilize uh David period.

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So when we have a situation like that, we have to report it back to, is it FDLE? Yeah, FDLE, that misuse occurred and what actions we took. And they can now in turn decide if they wanna ‸ do something due to the person they violated.

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wow,

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pretty serious. Goodness gracious. I didn't realize it went that deep.

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So, right, so in this scenario, there was no, intent on the officer's part to use the system inappropriately. He thought it was okay to run this person to ride along with us, which is not needed. Now, in the instance where it was, you know, someone running their ex-wife's new boyfriend, officers are terminated or suspended severely for that type of violation, or they lose their certification from FDLE. That's how strict this is.

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intent, right?

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Right. It was just a bad decision on his part to use it for that specific reason.

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Mm-hmm.

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let's say for example, you know, this has happened years ago where a family member may call

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police officer, hey, my license might be suspended. Can you run my information to let me know something?

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But

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You know, they'll get disciplined,

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That makes sense. He was not trying to gain something.

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think we're good. Excellent.

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been up? Mm-hmm. All right. Mr. Batchelor. I motion

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that we accept the sustained finding in 2224. Do I hear a second?

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‸ Second.

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All right.

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second from committee member Weiss. All in favor, please

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by saying ‸ aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes unanimously. Moving on to item number five. 22-26-IA, Complaintant Chief Evander Collier. Allegation.

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home from work and began consuming large amounts of alcohol, ultimately becoming extremely intoxicated, angry, and aggressive toward his live-in partner, the victim in this case. It is further alleged that Officer Kelly battered the victim and loaded several firearms, subsequently discharging those firearms within the residence, such that the victim and Kelly lived in together with no regard for the safety of the victim or their neighbors. The victim alleges that Officer Kelly held her against her will and took her cell phone from her, preventing her from calling 911 to get help and warn law enforcement of his intentions to do harm to them and her. The victim states that she was able to subsequently break free and run out of the residence to safety, at which time she called BCSO for help.

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On the night of December 28th, wait.

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Yeah, I had to double check that for a moment. Some of this stuff is a little extra, but I think the gist of it has been read into the record.

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Um, and I do believe he was terminated, correct?

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That's correct.

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Okay. Um, any discussion as it relates to item number five? I mean, I remember this one making the news and reading about this one.

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motion at this time as it relates to what we'll do as item five.

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I, uh,

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2226. All right. We got a motion. Uh, do I hear a second?

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Second.

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Here a second from Mr. Thomas. Um, all in favor, please signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed? All right. That motion passes unanimously.

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We've

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heard this name a few times. Um, in the last few sessions, haven't we? Officer Landis alleged that Sergeant Bradshaw directed him aggressively, unprofessionally and in a demeaning manner and was argumentative with him when he gave him a direct order to make contact with a

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in the lobby of the police department. He also alleged that Sergeant Bradshaw gave him an order that was unlawful and that was a liability to the agency.

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conclusion. And without. Reading every single bit of this, the conclusion of fact was unfounded against Sergeant Bradshaw. Um, any questions, comments, concerns, or discussion as it relates to item number 6?

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I ‸ would ask, uh, commander Duvall as, uh,

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as,

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uh, Officer Landis kind of settled down now on these ‸ issues, as being a traffic homicide investigator that apparently had an issue here in the lobby with taking the information when given an order by Bradshaw.

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There was, there was some hesitation on his part because at that time he was removed from the ‸ unit. This was a ‸ case.

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him off a ‸ was you not to have any, any other further ‸ investigation. He felt that that meant he couldn't continue working on his current cases that he had, which is not the fact you even though you're taken off a unit, the cases that you worked prior to that time, you're still responsible for. So it's a back and forth between. Landis his union representative and with. Sergeant Bradshaw so.

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because he felt like he was given a wrong order in this scenario. And the conclusion was he wasn't. He had a responsibility as the investigating officer to continue work in this th I that was assigned to him.

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Any other questions, comments, concerns as it relates to this item? Okay. Uh, I will entertain a motion as it relates to item number six.

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Thank you, Mr. Thomas. Do I hear a second? I'll second that. ‸ Hear a second from Mr. Betcher. All in favor, please signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed? This motion also passes unanimously.

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And to answer your question, Mr. Betcher, no, we haven't had any issues with our officer Landis since so.

[00:27:46] Speaker 2

Well,

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that's good to know.

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Good to know. I mean, we've had him here several times. So.

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‸ Good to know.

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Complainted did not believe detective Michael Cox had probable cause for his arrest and that the charges of aggravated stalking and violation of domestic violence, condition of release order, were not appropriate. This

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investigative conclusion.

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Are there any questions, comments, concern, or discussion as it relates to item number seven?

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Mr. Betcher's motion here second from Mr. Thomas all in favor, please

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by saying aye.

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Any ‸ opposed? Motion passes unanimously to accept the findings as unfounded.

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Officer

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and made his daughter cry. This

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conclusion. The conclusion of fact was

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Any discussion question or comments as it relates to this item?

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Mr. Chair, just so you know, the 2301 and the 2302 were

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the same day and he just seems to.

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was coming and filing complaints no matter what the officer did.

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Okay,

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just so you understand that on those 2 complaints, they were

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together.

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Yes. Yes. We separated them. Okay.

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Okay.

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Any further discussion as it relates?

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CC the conclusion of fact unfounded is correct.

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Do I hear a second as it relates to Mr. Betcher's motion? Second.

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Aye.

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Any opposed? That motion passes unanimously to approve as correct the unfounded conclusion as it relates to item 23-02-CC.

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Officer Fitzgerald is alleged to have been speeding on I-95 southbound on or about January

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and 6.30 a.m. This case was investigated by Sergeant B.

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Erskine.

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Erskine?

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Erskine.

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What was that?

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Erskine. Okay, thank you. The following is the investigative conclusion. The conclusion of fact was sustained against Officer M. Fitzgerald. And I believe that he, and it says here, he ‸ took responsibility and basically admitted, you know, of wrongdoing in here. So, I ‸ don't have any issues or comments as it relates to this because ‸ it's clear that he understood that he was wrong and he accepted that responsibility. Any further discussion, comments, concerns as it relates to this item?

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Hearing none, I'll accept or entertain a motion at this time as it relates to item number 9.

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you, Mr. Thomas. Thank

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Do I hear a second to Mr. Thomas's motion?

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I hear a second from Mr. Betcher. All in favor, please

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aye.

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Any opposed? The motion passes unanimously to accept the findings as it relates to item 23-03 CC of Mr. Thomas. Mr.

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Moving on to item number 10, our second to last item. Um, complaint 23-04-CC. Sergeant Jeff Taylor is alleged to have engaged in unprofessional conduct and affected an unlawful arrest. This

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the investigative conclusion. The conclusion of fact was exonerated against Sergeant Taylor.

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any questions, comments, or concerns as it relates to this item?

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Yeah, just, uh, uh, ‸ chief, uh, just to make it clear for those who don't understand the process. All of

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Once they're investigated by a sergeant or a lieutenant, they're forwarded up the chain of command through to you.

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what the case is about and make a decision as to discipline or anything else. Yes, that is, that is accurate.

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And, uh, I'm probably more thorough than most people.

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and reviewing these and making sure that we're looking at everything, uh, like the videos

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there's there, make sure we're interviewing any witnesses.

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verify that. So, yes, to this point, I see everything, uh, with these cases like this. Uh,

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we thank you for holding the, uh,

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uh,

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people that do the investigations accountable that they do a thorough job.

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Thank you.

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Thanks.

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Um, at this time, I'll entertain a motion as it relates to item number 10 hearing no further discussion. Thank you, Mr. Thomas. Uh, do I hear a second as it relates to Mr.

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motion? I second the motion. Thank you, Mr. Betcher. All in favor, um, of accepting the findings of item number 10, uh, per Mr. Thomas's motion. Please signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed? Item number 10.

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This

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motion passes unanimously, uh, to accept the findings as it relates to item number 23-04-CC.

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It was brought to Sergeant

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there was a post made on a social media group chat that involved Aaron Gutierrez. This post was specifically referring to two separate significant incidents that involved an employee that an. And employees with the communication division. CO Gutierrez participated and encouraged rumors that are easily proven to not be valid.

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conclusion of fact was sustained against CO E Gutierrez.

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um, uh, unprofessional conduct or, or something like that? Or am I, or am

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confusing that? I'm not sure.

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not since I've been here. I remember there was a woman officer when the last time we were here, there was a woman officer who made a complaint against a male supervisor who may have made some inappropriate remarks or something like that.

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that made that complaint?

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yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

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Moon did make a complaint on an officer that came before the board, but that

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was handled by human resources.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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just remember seeing, um, Gutierrez that name before. Maybe she was questioned because she was present when those statements were made or something. I just remember her being associated with that complaint. I'm a

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senior citizen. I can't remember all

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these details.

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Anyway, um, any questions, comments, concerns, or discussion as it relates to, uh, item number 11.

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And the sustained finding was there any discipline that the result.

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Yeah.

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yeah, a one day suspension. And so I supported that initially.

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didn't agree with the discipline. And then once it got to me and she explained what occurred and she was take took ownership. The one thing that I've committed to as a police chief is that if you own it and understand that, then I'm gonna find a way to lessen the blow. And so I felt that she was sincere with her apology and that she showed express compassion about it. Uh, and I reduced the discipline to instead of a suspension, she was getting a written reprimand, which is just under a suspension. Okay. And we also provide her additional training diversity.

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what was it?

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I just can't remember what it was. Okay.

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Thank you, sir. Uh, hearing no further discussion as it relates to this item, I will entertain a motion, uh, as it

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Having clarified, uh, my, uh, question as to 23 05 CC, uh, I motion that the conclusion of facts sustained.

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supported. Do I hear a second?

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All righty,

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A second from this week, a committee member.

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in favor, please signify by saying aye.

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Any opposed? ‸ Motion passes unanimously as it relates to that item.

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Um, is, are there, is there any housekeeping that needs to be done before we adjourn?

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this time I entertain a motion for adjournment.

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Yeah. Before you adjourn,

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just want to make a comment that don't forget as a committee that, you know, you, you're open to, uh, make recommendations to us to try to improve the relationship between the community and the police department.

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continue to develop the good relationships with the community.

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I do have a question on that topic. I remember that the

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offered up some space in downtown for a, uh, satellite office or something like that to be used by Coco PD in downtown. Was that ever utilized? Is it being utilized?

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No, we're not using that, uh, because, you know, we're

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always

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requested to, well, citizens ‸ always requesting that they want to offer up a stop station, which that's what the downtown district was offering. Uh, but a lot of times that ‸ get abused by officers. And also you have to determine who's going to be responsible cleanups and things of that nature.

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And because we such a small police department, um, we can be available anywhere in the city and don't necessarily have to have a actual office space, a stop station.

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for our community.

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uh, uh, a view of the board, uh, if citizens were here tonight, uh, ‸ had complaints and we could make a recommendation, uh,

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how to handle things a little differently. We certainly would do that. We've done it in the past, uh, recently the way these investigations have been conducted. Uh, I don't know that we could add anything to them, particularly since you're doing a thorough job. If you were not, I think, you know, me well enough. I wouldn't have any problem saying so. So, uh, don't, don't look our lack of a recommendation at this juncture as, as, uh,

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I think I can speak, uh, for the board and say that we appreciate the fact that, that you're doing a thorough job chief and, uh,

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them and making sure that they're accurate.

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as long as you're doing that and there's no complaint from a citizen here, uh, I can't see where we should be recommending things to you.

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You know,

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you're doing

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a good job.

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‸ And I appreciate it. You know, I can tell you,

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rough ride for the, for the staff, for everybody, because they were not used to me.

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And I can tell you that, uh, although

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overall,

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We want people to come in if they have complaints and we're going to look at them and ‸ if a citizen is not right, we're going to let them know they're not right. Uh, that they don't have a valid complaint. Uh, but I can just tell you that the officers are paying attention. Uh, we are improving our training with the officers.

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know, you get these complaints generated because of the communication gap and you get complaints created. So we have gotten better as an agency in how we communicate with the public and

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by default. So

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better as an agency.

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And I actually was remarking on that off the record before this meeting started. Um, but, um, but I, I do agree wholeheartedly with that.

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generally. When public officials and politicians tell me things, and I know you're not a politician, you weren't elected, but, um, when people in certain positions tell me things, I'm skeptical. Um, and I look at those things, take them with a grain of salt. Uh, but you said in our first meeting, um, when you first took over, uh, as chief that, uh, that we would see these complaints go down, uh, under your tenure and you've done what you said you would do,

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PD. And, and so I'm grateful for that. I told you, and I said this on the record, um, in a public, uh, event, uh, I remember I said that when you do what you're supposed to do, I will support you. And when you're not doing what you're supposed to do, I don't have a problem speaking out against it. Um, and I stand by that today. Uh,

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to continued improvement of relations between Coco PD and our citizens here.

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uh, we want to rebuild trust where it has been broken over the years and we want to have, um, our citizens, um, work well with law enforcement because, you know, I've seen plenty of times when you have positive relationships between law enforcement and people in the community, the community will help you to solve crimes. They will help you to find the people you're looking for and they will help you to keep the community safe. But if they don't trust you, they're not going to talk to you and they won't help you. And that's how you end up with unsolved crimes and all of these things. Um, or at least one of the things that contributes to it. So, uh, from me, I appreciate it. Any further discussion?

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I'd like to add one thing.

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talked to him about some issues that were going on in my neighborhood and I found him. I

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he's

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professional and

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incredibly professional and

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that is so refreshing. It's, it's a very easy to talk to people who are not reactive or, you know, just kind of just listen and, you know, give you very succinctly, you know, what the action is to take, uh, when something happens.

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me. It's actually ‸ kind of a lost art. Art. It,

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let you know that, um, that's very appreciated and maybe there's ways that you can commend people and show them that professionalism, ‸ you know, it's great to have examples, but, you know, training, that kind of thing.

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a Lieutenant because he was promoted, uh, probably six months ago. And I can tell you that what you talked about is absolutely right. And, um, we believe in him and, uh, you'll see more of him. He's a rising star in our agency. Okay. So I appreciate it. We'll make sure we let him know that, uh, you comment that you had a positive interaction with him.

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Thank you.

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that you would, uh, look at things as they are factually, that you don't hold grudges, that you would move people forward that were team players with the concept of cocoa that you and the city manager had in mind. And, uh, uh,

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these issues that, uh, you've moved, uh, ‸ Dabner Roman up and he is a team player looking out for ‸ the citizens of cocoa and, uh, more like him. I'm sure

[00:47:26] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · Machine re-recognized

will

Flag: words were replaced by a machine repair · 00:47:26–00:47:26 · machine repair: words replaced where two further machine readings agreed (not checked by a person)

[00:47:26] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice

surface under your command.

[00:47:28] No voice detected

‸ Thank you. Appreciate it.

[00:47:33] Speaker 2 · Unclear audio

[unclear audio — 0:01]

Flag: the recognizer flagged its own output; a language review questioned the wording · 00:47:33–00:47:39 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording

[00:47:34] Speaker 1 · Unclear audio

[unclear audio — 0:03]

[00:47:37] Speaker 7 · Unclear audio

[unclear audio]

[00:47:38] Speaker 1 · Unclear audio

[unclear audio — 0:02]

[00:47:39] Attribution uncertain · Unclear audio

[unclear audio]

Flag: the recognizer flagged its own output; a language review questioned the wording · 00:47:39–00:47:44 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording

[00:47:39] Speaker 1 · Unclear audio

[unclear audio — 0:05]

[00:47:44] Speaker 1 · Unclear audio

[unclear audio]

Flag: the recognizer flagged its own output · 00:47:44–00:47:44 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording

[00:47:48] Speaker 5 · Unclear audio

[unclear audio]

Flag: the recognizer flagged its own output · 00:47:48–00:47:48 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording

[00:47:49] No voice detected · Unclear audio

[unclear audio]

Flag: the recognizer flagged its own output · 00:47:49–00:47:49 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording

[00:47:50] No voice detected · Unclear audio

[unclear audio]

Flag: the recognizer flagged its own output · 00:47:50–00:47:50 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording

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