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The City's record
What the City's record shows
Built only from the City's minutes (943_CC_Reg_Minutes_06_24_2020.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.
Attendance (the roll call)
Listed present when the roll was taken: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins (printed “James Goins”), Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner
(Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines.)
Absences: no absence line could be read from the minutes' text, so none is stated here; the first page of the minutes is the record.
Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Anthony A. Garganese (City Attorney), Matthew Fuhrer (Interim City Manager), Carie E. Shealy (City Clerk), Tammy Gemmati (Administrative Services Director), Jack Walsh (Utilities Director), Michael Cantaloupe (Chief of Police), Jonathan Lamm (Fire Chief), Bryant Smith (Public Works Director), Rebecca Bowman (Finance Director), Nancy Bunt (Community Services Director), LeShawn Hinton (Helpdesk Support Tech), Dodie Selig (Planning Manager)
Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Jake Williams Jr., Lorraine Koss (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)
Adopted actions (13)
to approve the agenda as amended (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Brenda Warner); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
to approve the Minutes for the Regular meetings of May 13, 2020 and May 27, 2020 (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Brenda Warner); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
to approve the Consent agenda (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Brenda Warner); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 5
Pass on First Reading Ordinance No. 08-2020: Amending permitted locations for self-service storage facilities and amending the definition th — to approve staff's recommendation. MOTION was, for discussion (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Brenda Warner); CARRIED 3-2; ayes: Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins — the City's minutes, p. 7
2 Pass on First Reading Ordinance 05-2020: Providing for the location of pharmacies and medical marijuana treatment center dispensing facili — to approve Ordinance No. 05-2020 on First Reading (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 8 Corrected to match the minutes, page 8.
3. Approval of a PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION consistent with Chapter 18 —_ Subdivisions and Appendix A Zoning of the City Code. The property ow — to approve Staff's recommendation as follows: Approval of the Preliminary Subdivision with the condition set forth below: 1) Provide a conservation easement for Tract C in accordance with s. 704.06, Florida Statutes (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Don Boisvert); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 10
4. Approval of a large-scale Future Land Use MAP (FLUM) AMENDMENT consistent with Florida Statute Chapter 163 for Applicant and City initiat — to approve staff's recommendation (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Don Boisvert); CARRIED; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Brenda Warner; nays: Lorraine Koss — the City's minutes, p. 13; the vote on p. 14
to approve the item (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Don Boisvert); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 17
2. Ordinance No.07-2020/1st Reading: Amending Section 2-31 of the City Code to modify City Council regular meeting days from Wednesday to Tu — to approve Ordinance No. 07-2020 on first reading (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 17; the vote on p. 18
3. Approve a multi-year interlocal agreement between the City of Cocoa and the City of Rockledge for School Crossing Guard Services for the — to approve the item (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Don Boisvert); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 18
4 Approve the revised multi-year lease agreement with Sissine’s Office Systems, Inc. for copiers, repiacing four (4) Ricoh MPC307 copiers wi — to approve the item (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Don Boisvert); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 18
to hear Reports at the Budget Workshop being held tomorrow, June 25, 2020 (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 19
to adjourn the Regular meeting of June 24, 2020 (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 19
Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)
$300,000 — Council: Consent agenda item 1, approved with the Consent agenda. “Approve a Resciution Waiving the Competitive Bidding Process for the Purpose of Making Sole Source Purchases of Neptune Water Meters and Related Hardware from Sunstate Meter & Supply, Inc. and Approve Purchase of $300,000 of Neptune Meters for the Remainder of FY20.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (943_CC_Reg_Minutes_06_24_2020.pdf, p. 5); fiscal period not recorded)
Agenda (the City's wording)
The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (CC_Reg_Packet_06-24-2020), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.
Transcript Partial transcript
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way we can move council business up because you have some people here that is probably only here for ‸ one item that's on council business. And to go through all the public hearings, they're probably going
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Aye. Opposed? It passes unanimously. Okay. We're going to move on to our minutes from our regular meeting of May 13, 2020, and the regular meeting of May 27, 2020. What is the wishes of the council?
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We get a motion from Councilwoman Koss, second from Councilwoman Warner. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Passed unanimously. Okay, we're
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Well, thank you very much, Mr. Mayor, Councilmembers. It's a pleasure to be with you this evening, and thank you so much for the invitation. Really excited about this recognition. Wonderful things happening in the city of Cocoa, and very proud to be a part of that tonight. So, Mayor, members, thank you very much for having me.
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very happy to celebrate and mark this achievement and present you this evening with this proclamation. And I'd like to read it to you briefly, if you don't mind.
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hours every Wednesday at locations that include specialized training fields, the woods, and local businesses in Cocoa, and spend many hours each day together at work. And whereas Bear was one of 50 dogs selected out of 1,000 applicants to A&E's America's Top Dog Program, which pits well-trained canines in a competition of speed, agility, sensing ability, and teamwork with their human partners.
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as a way to increase citizen engagement in the Cocoa community. It then became a priority with our council, our current city council, and we began our first session in the fall of 2019. We had an overwhelming response from the community to participate in this first ever program for the City of Cocoa. The program originally scheduled to last six months concluded this past week as we had a short delay due to COVID-19. Participants went through eight different sessions that reviewed various departments and processes here in the City of Cocoa.
their elected officials. Then the members were given in-depth presentation on a tour of the city's Dial Water Treatment Plant and the process of producing clean and safe drinking water.
and how they are deployed to fix the water system. That same day they got the opportunity to tour the Cellars Water Reclamation Facility and meet with the staff there. Next members met at the Cocoa Police Department and were given a tour of the facility from the jail cells to the Chief's Office.
victim from a car, giving CPR, and putting out a fire. The Finance Department gave our participants the opportunity to balance the city's budget and learn all that goes into the city's finances.
as vac trucks, lawn mowers, electrical vehicles, street sweepers, and more. Finally, the Community Services Department gave each member a view of the processes involved with constructing a building in the City of Cocoa and touring them through the brand new Dr. Jolie Smith Community Center. This program has been a great success. It has been a pleasure to work with ‸ this very engaged and dedicated group of citizens and business owners to show
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Congratulations to each of you for taking the time to make this a priority and completing the program. I'd like to recognize each of you and give you a few tokens to remind you of our program. So
which I know you guys got your shirts, but this one is going to be better because this one, when you walk around with your shirts is going to say, ask me about my city. So because you guys took the opportunity and the time to learn about your city, now you will be official ambassadors and be able to talk to anyone about what's going on in the
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you all. I just wanted to say that this was a great program. I hope it continues. Also, as a shot sign of appreciation from all of us to all of you and the citizens and the business owners, this olive tree. And the name of this olive tree is love. And we want the city to put wherever love is needed. And we want to have it so ‸ everybody could come here and watch love grow.
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One other thing I wanted to recognize Tricia at Rockledge Gardens who provided a gift certificate for that tree and also Erica at Ellen's Hallmark for the low.
Thank you. Let me just say briefly that I got to attend most of the sessions and I really pushed this thing when I got into office because I knew it would be powerful and was every bit of that and more. And I think you really hit on something, Paul, with the Academy and the whole idea that this group has really been empowered now to take ‸ volunteer leadership and go with it. And I hope you'll look into serving on one of our many committees or maybe right here one day.
I do want to thank everyone and say congratulations. And I know we just recently applied for a grant. And so I think it was through the National League of Mayors, I believe. And so we applied for a grant and hopefully that's going to come through. And so we're going to continue this. It's been a great program and you guys were awesome. And you're the first.
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I just wanted to say thank you to the directors and all the employees too because they really took pride in it and really showed our members why they loved working for the city.
received from all of the members was the fact that the employees were so dedicated in their jobs and they've never seen that before. And they were so ecstatic about that. So I just wanted to say thank you to everyone. All of the city employees.
The county and the sheriff's office have both had citizens academies for a long time. And ‸ those have both been very beneficial. I went through them both and especially the ‸ county academy because you ‸ really, ‸ our county's big and you don't see how. I mean
participated in city government and I feel like my city is small. But for people, especially people who are new to our area who don't know anything about city government, it's really important that we do these things.
It gives people an opportunity, like Lorraine said, to find a niche where they might want to get involved and find something to get excited about their city. So it's awesome. We
did have some of our members already join. Greg Stoll became a member of our, ‸ the CPO committee. So it's been a really good program so far and I think it's going to see a lot more success like that. One
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[00:22:19]▶ PlaySpeaker 7 (introduced as “Kelvin Dardano” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
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[00:23:07]▶ PlaySpeaker 7 (introduced as “Kelvin Dardano” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Thank you. Appreciate it. As the Mayor said, my name is Kelvin Dardano. I have lived in Brevard County for 21 years. I'm also a Florida licensed real estate broker and I have been active in real estate in Brevard County in Central Florida for 20 of those 21 years.
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Randy also is president and founder of…
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He founded it in 2006. Randy's focus there is getting rid of chronic dependence and creating sustainable communities through ‸ job creation and community development. Additionally,
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[00:24:33]▶ PlaySpeaker 7 (introduced as “Kelvin Dardano” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
the founder of Titan Trusses in Jacksonville. And they did a lot of trusses including most notably Mar-a-Lago. ‸ Quite a few here in the area. Tom has also built over 50 light gauge steel homes which is what's going to come into play here. So I'm grateful to have time here with you. As the mayor said, we've been talking. The purpose of us coming before you today is that we'd like to create a public-private partnership
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[00:25:05]▶ PlaySpeaker 7 (introduced as “Kelvin Dardano” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
workforce families.
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people coming from the east side of Orlando to live here and commute back just because of the prices of homes and the cost of living in that direction. So again, workforce families. ‸ First time I heard that term was from the mayor. And when you think about it, it's our first responders. It's the firefighters, the school teachers, our military, law enforcement. County employees. Brevard County today, the average cost of new construction in Brevard County hovers around $300,000.
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[00:26:23]▶ PlaySpeaker 7 (introduced as “Kelvin Dardano” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Sargent, who's the fire chief for Canaveral and the Port, ‸ he was telling
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[00:26:33]▶ PlaySpeaker 7 (introduced as “Kelvin Dardano” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
reason the firefighters marry school teachers. So how
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They don't. They end up getting older homes that are ‸ usually in need of some kind of work. They have low energy efficiency, so it's more costly as well as insurance is much more costly as well.
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In many cases, they end up having to rent. The Bethel Home Builders, what we're looking to do is to bring affordable housing, but ‸ not just affordable housing, but great housing, well-built housing. We're looking to build with what's called light gauge steel. Even though I'm showing it here being built on a site, our intent is to open a facility here and
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[00:27:31]▶ PlaySpeaker 7 (introduced as “Kelvin Dardano” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
we're going to actually be more modular structure, putting everything together within the facility and taking it to site.
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on the walls, on the ceiling, and subflooring. It's virtually fireproof. So if something combusts in the room, the fire's not going to spread. And it's green. It doesn't grow mold. There's no allergens. We're using hardy board on the exteriors. And to add to that, impact glass on all the doors and open our closed cell foam insulation. What this is going to do is it's going to create a home that can withstand winds around 200 miles an hour.
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super energy efficient. It would have very low double digit electric bills. And security and safety with the impact glass. So peace of mind in your home. And so that's the intent to build. Now in speaking with the mayor, Michael C. Blake
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The mayor mentioned there's about 57 lots that the city homes today that you're maintaining, that don't create a tax base, that cost you money to maintain. And so that's our initial focus. Tom has designed 20 homes to go on the lots marked out in yellow. And the more you look at this neighborhood, the more you can see its importance. You have Provost Park across the street on Fisk. You have Emma Jewell to the south. You have the Leon and Jewell Collins Museum of African American History and Culture going in where it's
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So we're not looking to just build something for the sake of building it, but we're looking for something that's safe, secure, energy efficient, and will give families who are generally living on a budget the means to have a good, safe, secure environment for their families and be able to
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being in there. The benefits to the city? Well, new jobs. We're going to create a few and I'm sure bringing other businesses will come. It will spur economic growth and, of course, property taxes for the city. It will bring prosperity. We have a 501 as well with Pastor Beckford and Randy started that with called Revive Cocoa. And again, I think together we can work to help end poverty and to bring growth without displacement, which I think is extremely important here, that everybody needs to come along for the ride.
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A home is the foundation of the family and a building block for strong community. So it's Bethel's intent to form a relationship with you, to work hard, to help improve the types of homes that are available for the workforce and to really get them moving here and out of rentals and out of 20-year-old homes. That's all I have to say.
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If you're selling a house from 150 to 170 under today's current interest rates, what is a payment? Well, it looks like a
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$150,000 home, assuming, you know, and we do have credit repair, and we're, you know, I'm in this, this ‸ was just on my heart to do this. I had a young lady from Cocoa walk in and just look at me ‸ that she wanted to own a home, and of course, where I was working at the time, we couldn't help her. If she was going to be here tonight, she couldn't make it.
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Okay. Which is a lot less than rent in the city of Cocoa right now. Oh, yeah.
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‸ Rents went up 15%, if I'm not mistaken, last year in the county on average, and there's so many people living one paycheck away from being homeless, you know? And so. Thank you.
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for the staff, and I'm sure you all can sit down and they can tell you the whole process ‸ with, you know, with the vacant lots that we have within the city and how that whole deal works.
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We can do multi-family. We can do just about anything. Tom can take us up three stories very easily without any kind of modifications. And again, the cost is going to be drastically less than traditional building methods and materials.
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today, I'm definitely going to have to take to the commercial property group because it's information that I was able to take notes on that Matt had provided that really is important and I'm definitely going to be at the budget meeting in order to get more information on that. But in simple numbers,
And from what I understand, we have an existing 14,000 square foot civic center and yet we're being quoted on a 9,000 square foot new civic center at the cost of 7 million plus. There's other percentages to add to it. In addition to that, the kind of money that we're talking about, I'll take it one step further.
garage. We're in the millions again. So what's making sense is do the biggest bang for the buck and it's a lot less expensive to renovate what we have for the civic center.
plus for 9,000 square feet. Now in addition to that, the parking garage situation, this makes it even more pertinent that we don't look at anything to buy. We have to use what properties we own because they're already in the 700,000 and up range. Now, one of the most important ones is not only the parking that's next to the civic center here. We own that. We can ‸ dress that up. But there's a very quick solution to the parking and that is revamping and better planning the parking we've got
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Please I want to really look into that. This is something the city owns. We're talking about five acres that we own and we can just pave it. I've even had commercial, I mean, commercial property group members make a suggestion that there be people that we'd be willing to partake some of the costs to develop that, meaning the whole acreage to be paved for parking. And you can later build a multi-parking garage when the money is there. We own the property already.
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I originally had planned to come here tonight to talk about modifying and changing the name of the Police Advisory Board to a citizen Police Review Board with subpoena power and the power to investigate. Well, I got sidetracked from that today and I'm going to call out this incident. This morning
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number 29, he whips from the red light, comes in, stops in front of my car and takes a picture of me. I don't know whether this is some kind of threat or is it
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many. So ‸ we need to be taking our tax dollars doing something productive instead of taking pictures. And in closing, I would like for this officer to move somewhere else because I smell a rat. See, you got time to be doing this. Ain't no arrest being made. I've seen officer drive vehicle number 20, 29.
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Second from Councilwoman Warner. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Okay, opposed? It passes unanimously. Okay. We're going to move on ‸ to our first item on the public hearing.
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for self-service storage facilities and further amending regulations related to this use, providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions, incorporation into the code, severability, and an effective date. As I indicated, this is first reading, also a public hearing.
Well, it was kind of mentioned in the staff report that you got. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. ‸ So, the ordinance before you is to address self storage. We're in the ordinance, we are clarifying the definition of a ‸ self-service storage facility.
We're amending the CR, which is restricted commercial, and CG, general commercial zoning districts, which allow the use as a special exception to give both of those special exception conditions consistency. We're also adding the use to the wholesale commercial zoning district as a principal use with some conditions.
There was a conflicting one standard under parking regulations and another standard for parking specific to the CG, for this use of the CG. So, we're standardizing that. And then, as the mayor mentioned, there was discussion at the zoning meeting. The board heard from the applicant and a request to add commercial vehicles in some fashion. The way this was drafted, ‸ the intent is ‸ that a self-service storage facility is essentially a place where you store your personal belongings. And most of them have some large units, large enough that are essentially garage sizes. ‸ So, if
have a car or a vehicle of some size or you've got some jet skis on a trailer or whatever that fit in the storage unit, you can put your car, your truck or jet skis or what have you in the unit.
the code that we're proposing, that would be for large recreational vehicles like campers and boats and that kind of thing. We specifically left out cars and trucks in the outside storage area because A, you can put it on the inside,
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motion was to approve it but to have some kind of language to allow commercial vehicles to be in the ordinance. Now, we have a definition of commercial vehicles in our code now. ‸ That definition is pretty extensive.
And I put that in the staff report for you as well. So, if you feel that this is something that you want to look at, allowing cars and trucks in outside storage, keeping in mind that they are able to do it ‸ in the storage units now, or as it's written anyway,
I would, well, I would like your ‸ feedback on that, but ‸ my advice to you would be we need to take a look at staff level about that definition and how that plays.
that we don't want to allow just the words commercial vehicle because the definition we already have is so extensive. We don't really want dump trucks and, you know, the things that are in there now to be allowed in, ‸ you know, any of these areas.
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this, I would say that if that is your feeling, then limit it to CW. And let staff ‸ think about how we would define it because we're going to need to address a definition of a commercial vehicle. Or we limit it to personal vehicles and you don't allow the commercial aspect. That would be,
‸ we don't have the scenario kind of I laid out there in the SNAP report where you might have, you know, just a few, somebody takes a piece of land and puts up, you know, five or ten storage bays and then you suddenly have a huge parking lot.
can this be turned around? Where's the loopholes that create something that we never intended? And you can never totally get a code that's completely proofed that, you know, can't be, you know, manipulated in some way. But always thinking that way. ‸ That's really why I was in my staff report kind of putting a lot of breaks in there just to say, let's think about that a little bit. The implications could go further than we intend if we just open the door to commercial vehicles.
as well because, you know, we have, if you drive around our community, after about 6 p.m., you see these big box trucks parked at their front yards. ‸ And we have, you know, our code enforcement officers out there,
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know, so we got some issues in our city when it comes to stuff like that, but within we don't have accommodations for the vehicles. So maybe we need to look at where we ‸ would allow some ‸ of these facilities to be at, ‸ you know, so that we can accommodate that.
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I really don't have an issue with storage facilities having commercial vehicles. You can look around the county, around other municipalities that allow this to happen.
don't allow those businesses to come in because they can also choose other cities too. ‸ So ‸ that's my only, I understand where you're going from, you know, what you're concerned about for the future of people doing things they have no business doing. But that's when code enforcement come into play as well. So I don't have an issue per se because the same issue where the mayor just brought up, people don't have a place to park their dump trucks.
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want to make a comment with reference to this item? This is your time. Seeing that, I'm going to close it to the public at this time. We open it to the council. I see him and I'm
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on Wilson and between Wilson and the railroad track north of Peachtree and that property is zoned CW, which is more intensive of the groups that you're proposing to change today. This ‸ allows warehouses with special exception and it makes sense to ‸ allow self-storage in that particular use. I want to thank Dodie. She's been working with us on this and we
However, there are a couple of things we would like you to look at and consider and one of them is the one that the Planning and Zoning Board thought ought to be addressed at this time. ‸ If I might, I'm going to hand out.
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of cars or small commercial vehicles inside the facility on the outside in the outdoor storage. The reason we think this is important to allow is to, you know, a lot of subdivisions have restrictions that don't allow you to park small commercial vehicles ‸ within their subdivisions. Now,
and they'd like to have a secure place to park their vehicles. And we think this is the most appropriate place would be in a storage area. The requirements that are being required would require us to shield that from the streets. And we think this is the most appropriate place to put them. I have provided a definition for those small vehicles. That actually comes out of the Code of Federal Registry as ‸ a proposal for what that would constitute and those are basically those things that are defined as light duty trucks, which is a motor vehicle rated at no more than 8,500 pounds or a light duty vehicle which is a ‸ passenger car or a
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facility, you find not many people there at any given point in time and we think that the parking requirements are just a little bit heavy for what's really required here. And we have requested that that be changed to one parking space for each 100 storage units
redevelop the property and do some renovations we may need to have a little more space and as a practical matter based on our experience there's not a need for the additional spaces as they don't, they're very rarely there. So with that again we
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of Titusville. ‸ And I also looked at all of the existing storage company units we have within the city and kind of did some calculations and going to at 1 to 50 is I think it won't cause any you know code issues. I took a look at their existing site as well and what was they were conveyed to me the applicant I would say they had conveyed about their plans for expansion. Honestly they could build another building and not even provide parking at 1 to 50. So certainly we'll be asking for an additional parking. to serve the new building but
Yes sir. Just one clarification. The proposed recommended changes is only applicable to commercial warehouse or the other zoning designations which are affected by this ordinance.
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there then just allow passenger cars and trucks or maybe just the trucks to be parked outside only in the CW. But I would shy away from creating another definition that we don't have time now to vet as not causing problems somewhere else in the code.
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standardizing the language in CR and CG, which are special exception uses, with the conditions that are in the staff report or in the ordinance, excuse me.
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But the distinction between what the speaker has presented and what staff's recommendation is only affects two aspects of the proposed conditions, right, in the various zoning districts. First of all, the speaker wants to limit proposing a proposed change in the CW zoning district. And the condition is that outdoor storage of cars and trucks shall not be allowed.
light duty vehicles. The other ‸ distinction is with respect to the parking ratio. Staff is proposing one parking space for each 50 storage units. The speaker is proposing one parking space for 100 storage units.
speaker is only requesting changes for the CW zoning district. Everything else, I believe the speaker has no issues with and is consistent with staff's recommendation.
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This item is related to the existing Jolie-Smith building. As you're all aware, the new building is slated to open sometime in mid-July. As part of the new building project, we wanted to go ahead and evaluate the existing building. So we did a facility condition assessment through a consultant. With that assessment, they evaluated the architectural, ADA requirements, mechanical, electrical, basically all the different parts of a building.
It doesn't meet current code and would result in pretty significant costs to just upkeep it as is. Within that report, to maintain the building in its current condition would cost somewhere
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Group A3. And that's for gymnasiums and things of that nature. It would cost a little over a million dollars. And the next thing that they looked at is if you were to change the function of the building, that could potentially cost two to three million dollars. So ‸ that would be if you change the use of a building from a gymnasium. There's a bunch of different uses within A3.
for those groups. So as part of that assessment, you know, we wanted to review that and have the council provide recommendation on how we want to proceed with the building.
maintenance and water bill fees for the existing building. So if we were to continue to keep the existing building, those costs would come onto the city.
that's something we would really need to plan for. One item that we do want to include in the discussion is we've been looking at the diamond square stormwater issues. We're in the process of finalizing a diamond or stormwater feasibility report. And one of the items that
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diamond square around Lucas and Washington. And the preliminary studies show that there would be some some minor benefits roughly around three to five inches and water reduction for your short duration and high intensity storms.
actual pump station, which would work similar to a lift station that would then pump the water out. That provide pretty significant benefit to the entire diamond square area. Those costs would come at for just
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As is is roughly 47,000. That wouldn't take into account any type of substantial repairs that need to be made. And there are a lot of outdated features there.
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request action. Staff is requesting city council to evaluate the feasibility for the rehabilitation and repair of the existing Dr. Jolie Smith Community Center. And provide staff a recommendation on how the city council would like to proceed with the existing building.
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tells me that a person that we have a maintenance contract with, which is Brevard County Parks and Recs, they didn't do their job. That's the first thing. And then the second thing is that we, as the city of Coco, did not do follow up with the people that we have a contract with. So that's two problems that I have with that amount of money. I think we all know there's issues. But to have that amount of problems for a facility that they currently occupy is a major concern for me. And for them to drop the ball and for us to not maintain that maybe communication with them to make sure they do that is our problem. And that falls back on me. So I blame myself for that. But I do know there are several people that are showing interest in this property. I do not want this
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And we just dealt with them for whatever reason. But there's people that can provide programs, additional programs that would not compete with the Broad County Parks and Recs in the new facility. That, that thing, that's ‸ one of the major
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church, it could be Odell Watson, it could be so many different styles of people that can potentially possibly work together. If not, they can have an RFP process and we can throw it out there to see
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that. ‸ The building went through probably every hurricane we could think of. It's very strong. As one thing in a report that I did see is that the block is sturdy. Okay. But I still, I, I, I know we can't. I want to try to attempt to right our wrong and I'm going to try
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they dropped the ball on this maintenance contract. And so I don't know what we can do as far as the city is concerned. Well, I know we need to do something. Um,
us, they getting tax money from our city and our citizens. I know that for a fact. Um, so. I request, um, to look at doing ‸ RFP process for the building, maybe do something where it's 60 to 90 days, throw it out there and see who, who's willing to, um, join forces with us or
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of us. It will sustain every part of the city. We can't, we can't just, I know we got a new one and people say, Oh, you got a new brand new building, but that's the only one part of it. This building could be for other functions. Um, so that, that, that's my, that's my two cents on us, but I still, I have, I feel very bad the
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Um, but I think we need to work on that. ‸ I know this had nothing to do with this thing, but we need to strategically in stages, start taking our parts back.
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attachment, not just to the, the neighborhood, but also to that building. And that's understandable. Um, this is a little background. There has been a period over several years where the city did try
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do a better job. And their excuse always was, well, you don't give us enough tax money. We're making do with what we have. If you want us to do better, you have to give us more money. And that was Matt sat on the committee that met with Brevard County Parks and Rec. He can give you some background on that.
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We were never in a position financially to take our parks back from Brevard County because they get all the money to operate them. And I'm sure the attorney can tell us how we can make sure they don't get that money and we get that money. But at the time we looked at taking our parks back from Brevard County before we had no infrastructure in place to manage those parks. We
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and all the others. So we were a step ahead of where we were previously. We have some infrastructure. We have some employees in place that that have the skills ‸ to do those things.
reason we can't look at taking our parks back right now. And that's why we have a steering committee to take a look at that. And I'm sure that'll probably be a good chance they'll come back with a recognition because it's not just Jolie Smith. It's Travis. I mean, you go up to Travis.
getting. So it's it's time to take it back. But I don't want our citizens paying special tax to the county for parks if they're not getting their money. I fully agree with you personally. I think we could do better than the old Jolie Smith Center building that there's when you look at the money that would have to be put into that building and the cleanup and the asbestos and probably lead and everything else that's in there. $20,000 to demolish it and put up another building might actually be cheaper. So somebody should take a look at that. But I have no problem with your idea of going out for an RFP
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facility and organizations that have the money to put into it, that would be great and awesome. I know we have a lot of volunteers in some of those organizations. So a lot of that physical work could be done. We have a lot of skilled people who participate with a lot of these churches and could do a lot of the work. But I was going to bring this up under reports.
They will not be reopening. So it's not just our neighborhood on the south end of the city who needs programs for our children. Because there's a whole lot of people on the north end that are losing a lot with the loss of that that YMCA.
goes on up at Travis ‸ to replace what's what we're losing at the YMCA. So we've got to look at that too. But I have no problem with your idea of looking at an RFP and getting some community input into what they think they can do with that building.
And then also just to add I know that ‸ the YMCA I got that email today as well and I got a couple of phone calls ‸ reference to ‸ that. We're talking about a
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And it was only going to take maybe a little of a million dollars to refurb and put a new roof and some stuff on there. But they opted to move their facilities. It's just unfortunate that someone else and hopefully someone's going to step in there and take advantage of that. But with that being said, I just want to I'm not blaming anyone that's here right now with the staff. Because I think that it starts at the very top. And I could tell you that coming into office in 2018 there was quite a few things that we were facing. And then when I look at the condition of the Julie Smith Center, I mean the
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‸ All the picnic tables and chairs and tables were moved. Then just to find out here just about a week or so ago that the Cocoa Conservation gates were locked. These are some of the many amenities that we have in our city. And they're still
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middle of it. They had to tear all the equipment down. So this is some of the conditions that we were seeing and that we were facing when we ‸ stepped into these seats. And I just, I don't know how we got here. But we're trying to correct and right some of those wrong because, you know, Provost Park was a busy park. It's a busy park. And ‸ I know there's some other activity that's happening there. But it's a matter of we can police that area.
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folks that was down there and it was affecting some of the businesses downtown. I get it. I mean, I get it. But you know what? No one ever sat down and had this conversation and talked about what was happening in the city. And then we were trying to bring this forward and saying, hey, we got some serious problems here that we're not addressing. And but but I know that the staff is working hard now to try to address some of these issues. But it's it's like, man. And then it was looking and goes back to the Civic Center, you know, looking at what money was spent on a Civic Center
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you know, but we had a facility that was booked out sometimes for the whole year. You're trying to get certain days and then you couldn't get in there.
you know, what what what additional activity we would have there? I mean, there's just so much more that we should be doing as a city that wasn't happening and it needs to happen. And and and ‸ hopefully the the everyone gets it.
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Right. I would like to really like to revisit that as an opportunity to leverage some funds. And you mentioned that if we maintain the current usage, what all were those uses? What all could we.
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that. It's amusement arcades, art galleries, bowling alleys, community halls, courtrooms, dance hall, exhibition hall, funeral parlor, gymnasium, indoor swimming, indoor tennis. Those three that I just mentioned is without spectator seating. Lecture halls, libraries, museums, places of religious worship, pool and billiard ‸ parlors, and then waiting areas and transportation terminals.
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So yeah, just a couple of things. And then one related to the actual facility itself. But the first time is there's a lot of talk related to the maintenance of our parks, as well as facilities that are included in that maintenance agreement with Brevard County. The reason why we have that maintenance agreement is because the county in partnership with the
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But one of the improvements in there was actually, uh, to the Jolie-Smith Center. And that was in the year 2000. I think it was 1.2 million. So, uh, obviously that facility had issues back in 2000 and there were no cap, made significant capital dollars invested since that time.
Which was some of the reason why you have a new facility there because not only was it, uh, not meeting our needs, uh, due to the conditions, but also the actual spacing, uh, within it, as you see within the report. Um, and so there, there were some issues, uh, related to that. Now,
in talking about that facility and considering additional uses at that center with the new, uh, Dr. Jolie-Smith Center, and I believe it was this council, uh, through one of the, the actions that we approved, there was some discussion related to the parking on the site for the new center. We, we do have to be aware of that. The new center could be operating an event as well as the old center. If we were to bring in another use in there.
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I live in Rockledge. Over the bridge. But my heart's here in Cocoa. As one time I said, I couldn't find an affordable house. Well, not affordable house. A decent community to live in to buy a house in Cocoa. But I'm always going to be a part of Cocoa. I volunteer every time. And as you know, a lot of kids from Rockledge, from all the other cities, is in Cocoa doing youth activities, children programs, from PAL.
you get a list of them, their addresses are in Rockledge. So the reason I'm here is to say that I know Jolie, they were talking about knocking it down.
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do. There are arts programs they want to do. I bought, I purchased art from kids that have made it in PAL's program. So I'm fine. ‸ I get a lot of compliments when people come to my house. It's just that I want to see the building utilized for that program. Not to be torn down. Not to take that kind of money and tear down a building that's significant. My daughter graduated from Cocoa High School.
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practiced when I used to coach at Cocoa High School there. So a lot of kids have instilled dreams, memories there. So to see it torn down, I see the one that they built that's in the middle of the street pretty much. Um, which I'm amazed how they did that. But I just want to see something utilized for that building other than I understand what you need for
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Yeah, and there could be multiple groups that go in there ‸ with that facility as well as and do some fundraisers or whatever it takes to keep things going there so the burden is not on the taxpayers, you know.
council bring back to staff recommendations on how the council would like to proceed with the existing structure. As a taxpayer of the city, I feel the cost to renovate and or rehab this structure is cost prohibitive. The decision is to, the decision to build a new Jolie Smith center was one that was supported by the community and the former council.
and will serve the surrounding community for many years to come is beautiful. The city has a responsibility to the residents to make financially prudent decisions to consider anything other than the complete removal of the outdated and non-compliant structure would not be in the best interest of its residents. Thank you for your time.
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And so what I wanted to say is. I heard everybody and I would like to get an opportunity to try to do something with the Jolie Smith Community Center. Nothing against a lot of things that were said, but I'm a big guy on partnership. And we would do things while they were open because I was talking to somebody today. You could build a pretty building, but this is
People don't come because you have a pretty building. People come because they're connected to the people ‸ inside the building. That's why the Boys and Girls Club struggled with kids for two years. When my Rotary Club built them a beautiful building and put it in there. All the kids from
Five times. You got to stand in the bus loop at Endeavor. If you want kids from Candlewood to come to this beautiful building because it wasn't being filled.
Kids were across the street. It just didn't come. So my point is I would like to bring something there that is not the same. Not another gym. Something that's not the same. And we have a partnership with Health First.
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I believe in Orange County and different places in the neighborhood. You have quality workout facilities right in the neighborhood adjacent or next to a gym. So imagine if we could have a workout facility that's better than a Planet Fitness right there.
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You've got. Yeah. So, so I mean, let's put up RSP, give us our marching orders and ‸ let's see. But I'm, I'm interested in it. I'm not against anybody else doing anything else.
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being someone that has both represented and has been a part of prosecution teams of young, uh, teenage kids. Um, one of the major issues in Orlando and in Brevard where I've done these things is the fact that there is very little for them to get their hands into that is productive and constructive. ‸ I think that we have a duty to the parents as well as the community to ensure that something is in place for them. Um, and so I just want to echo, uh, my sentiments of support, um, for repurposing the Jolie Smith Center.
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But I, I would, as, as the chair of that committee, I would request respectfully that a new appointment of a new member be done before our upcoming meeting. I believe that is next month.
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So imagine four o'clock, you know, these kids in the neighborhood, four o'clock till 10 at night when their mom get home. That's a long time for chief kind of look to deal with some kids. So, so if, if they don't have something to do, that's the issue is the programming.
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These moms are working 16 hour days. This is, this is a whole nother world. I think we need to, you know, pay attention to that. You invest now or you going to pay later. That's how it work. You invest now or pay later. Cause we either, I'd rather see these kids doing something positive than paying for it when they go to prison. We still paying. So that's, that's, I'm done talking. Thank you sir. All right.
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see it. The people that just came to the microphone are workers in the community. They're not outsiders. They know what's going on. And so the people that are here right now, they're here for this item.
So, and that's what I find when we have meetings actually in the center. We see a lot of the seniors that we don't see here in the council chamber. So I would
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just want to. I know the, anytime something stays up, the conversation ‸ going to get twisted and people going to get a lot of outside forces and we got some time today. I want to be able to get stuff done. You know, instead of waiting.
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don't want people saying that. Well, you know, you guys just decided and you didn't talk to everybody and you know how you hear that. So if we can just have. That's a point. I'm going
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So related to the RFP, this isn't something that we just have sitting on the shelf. So we'd have to develop it. So ‸ it may be wise to solicit some information from the community, help us build that RFP to ensure that we cover. I mean, there's probably uses that we don't even contemplate because we have to develop a criteria as well to score and it'll take a little bit of time because it's not something we already have prepared.
Right. So that mean that there's mold on the front. There's trees growing right now. We own that property. So can we invest time in that property is just to get it looking better than what it is because they actually told their employees verbatim. They have a new center. We're not going to maintain the old one at all. So that's why you see all the growth.
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Florida amending appendix A zoning of the City Code, providing for the location of pharmacies and medical marijuana treatment center dispensing facilities in the city, providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions, incorporation into the code severability and an effective date. This is first reading, also a public hearing item. Thank
remember back in 2016, Florida voters approved the Florida Right to Medical Marijuana Initiative, which was also known as Amendment 2. And essentially that allowed cities an option to either incorporate medical marijuana treatment centers into their city code if it was treated the same as any other pharmacy or to ban the facilities. And so ‸ on January 9th of 2018, the Council approved an ordinance which enacted the ban.
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the professional offices and services district, the restricted commercial district, the neighborhood commercial district, and the urban mixed use district.
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not be located within 500 feet of the real property that comprises a public or private elementary, middle, or secondary school unless the city council approves the location at a public hearing and determines that the location promotes the public health, safety, and general welfare of the community or is otherwise provided in
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zoning district allows certain uses. They are also incorporated because of our nesting system of codes in wholesale commercial and general commercial and M1 light industrial and warehouse districts. So those districts
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‸ Okay, this is a public hearing so at this time I'm going to close it. The light on the... Okay. This time I'm going to close it to the council and open it up to the public for any public comments. Yes ma'am.
Mayor, Council, we received another e-comment on this and it was from Jerry Blanco again. It is, Dear City Council members, this item addresses the location of the medical marijuana dispensing facilities located within the city limits of cocoa. The current state statute that limits the location of the facilities within 500 feet of a school in my opinion is not restrictive enough. As an example, Clear Lake Educational Center, which is located on Clear Lake Road, is within walking distance to College Manor. This well-established neighborhood consisting of nearly 500 homes could potentially be impacted by this ordinance, which would allow a medical marijuana facility to open less than 200 yards from the entrance of the neighborhood. This neighborhood has seen a resurgence of late in the value of its ‸ homes and in its stability. I urge the council to not make the same mistakes of your predecessors, which allowed a liquor store and a bar to open within walking distance to not only the neighborhood, but
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This decision will have impacts on neighborhoods such as College Manor for years to come, not just in the short term, but 30 to 50 years from now. Protect our neighborhoods by further restricting the locations of these facilities. Full disclosure, I was the single vote against
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most, but most pharmacists, if you go talk to Mrs. Butterfield, she will tell you that. She will not be doing that and most pharmacists won't be in. She has a really long list of reasons.
To a couple. With a friend who was in stage four. Cancer. I went to a couple of facilities with her. And. I never saw any issues or any problems and. It was kind of like going to a doctor's office. You. Walked in. You got called back.
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But other than that, I don't have any issues with it. But I. I understand. How people who have not been to one of these dispensing facilities would. Would have reservations about it.
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Well if it's. It's my understanding that these dispensaries they can. Because they fall on the pharmacies. They can be in basically residential neighborhoods. So if you expand this.
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this one item will be a little long. It's dealing with something that we haven't had to bring before you before. So we want to make sure everybody fully understands all the implications. So the application. And the applicant is requesting approval of a preliminary subdivision. It's a parcel of ‸ land on the west side of Clear Lake Road. It contains roughly 27 acres. It's vacant land. And the applicant intends to build single family subdivision there. 87 lots.
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‸ And directly west from the Lakeside Palms subdivision that is currently under construction. So this is the layout of subdivision. And there's two tracks. Just kind of refresh everybody's mind. There's a track here, which is D. And up here, which is E, that are amenity tracks. A in the middle is a stormwater pond. And then C over here on the
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So this would be under conservation. The application for the subdivision and the large scale site plan were originally submitted to the city in the fall of 2018.
The applicant agreed to a development agreement with the city to convert two of those lots, the ones I mentioned, into common open space for community amenities. The subdivision and the
on December 5th of 2018. And recommended for approval with conditions. The council then subsequently approved that preliminary subdivision with the same conditions on February 13th of 2019. However, those have since expired. After that date, there were
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However, the utilities department received and approved plans that address the council comments from the February approval. And they approved that set on March 1st. In January of this year, the applicant approached the city with the desire to move forward once again with the project, as they had a new prospective buyer for the property. So on February 20th, the owner submitted a request to extend the preliminary plat or,
On March 11th, council approved that extension of the permitting timelines in the existing development agreement. And I apologize, in your packet, you got the blank version of that development agreement, but it was approved. That allowed a one-year extension. So on May 4th of this year, the applicant submitted the same preliminary subdivision plan and plat that were given the original conditional approval by council. Staffs reviewed those conditions from the previous approval, as well as comprehensive plan and zoning code, and determined there's two requirements that remain to be addressed. One is a conservation easement for track C to be provided in accordance with the statute. And two, the applicant must provide compensatory storage as required by
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or provide sufficient evidence for ‸ such provision is not environmentally sound or economically feasible. And it is this policy which is going to necessitate a bit of additional staff time
‸ The conservation easement was an unmet condition of the 2019 approval, and the city attorney's office provided the applicant with a conservation easement, which will be recorded prior to recording of the final plat. The compensatory storage requirement was unfortunately missed during the prior review of the application in 2018, because at the time the consultants that was contracted to do stormwater review ‸ of the floodplain requirements, which they did, was not informed of the necessity to also address the comprehensive plan,
And therefore the applicant did not receive any comments related to it. In terms of consistency with the comprehensive plan, this policy says that except as provided ‸ in
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be provided through excavation of a volume equivalent to the loss of storage within the 100-year floodplain, resulting from the placement of fill in adjacent upland areas above the 100-year floodplain, where such compensatory storage can be accomplished in an environmentally sound and economically feasible manner.
the applicant submitted a letter containing information on providing economic feasibility and compensatory storage, and staff provided comments back and the applicant resubmitted a second
with additional information. The applicant has taken the position that compensatory storage is not required to be provided because such compensatory storage cannot be accomplished in an environmentally sound and economically feasible manner in accordance with policy 6.1.3.6. In order to adequately address the question of the feasibility of compensatory storage for the applicant's project staff, provided additional analysis, and at this point I'm going
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I'm going to provide just a brief overview of floodplains and flood storage and kind of how that applies to the specific property. So if you look at this schematic, you see the stream channel, that would be your body of water, and then the low-lying areas that are immediately adjacent to that, you could consider that your floodplain. So what the comp plan is basically saying is, on the left side of this, when you fill in ‸ that low-lying area, on the right side it shows you removing an equal amount. So if you took 10 yards out of the low-lying area, you should provide 10 yards of additional storage within that area. With this particular property, here's the floodplain. So AE, this is the teal color, it's a special flood hazard area. That means it basically has a 1% chance per year to flood. Then
it's the orange. That's about a 0.2% annual chance. That's not considered a special flood hazard area. And then these unshaded areas are just standard zone X. They're not within the hazard area as well. So as you can see, this property is well within the floodplain.
‸ One, the entire site's pretty much within the floodplain. And then you have groundwater levels that prevent you from digging down to provide that storage.
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groundwater table for your storage because as the groundwater comes up, you would essentially eliminate that storage. And like I said, with this floodplain, we don't have a view of the entire flood map, but it's the entire St. Johns River Basin,
With the comp plan requirements, we looked at some of the on-site alternatives that could possibly be used, and then also some of the off-site. And I'll talk about some of the environmental aspects of that and briefly touch on the costs associated with the design side of that, and I'll pass it back to Dodie to talk about the true economic feasibility for the developer to do that. So one of the options, and Dodie will get further into it on the next slides, is to provide that storage within the conservation track, track C. So that's probably about a quarter of the site. The intent of that was to dedicate to the city to essentially remain natural. Those are wetland areas. They're relatively undisturbed at this point. In order for the developer to go in and impact that for storage, you'd ‸ have to scrape those wetlands back.
You probably get about 3,000 cubic yards. This site needs about 16,000 cubic yards to fully compensate for that storage. Outside of the environmental aspect alone, you also would trigger additional permitting through St. John's mitigation.
That cost would be carried over into the lots as well. The next item we looked into, and let me see if I can go back here a little ways, is eliminating some of the lots. So this is what I
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If you basically use that as your storage, you can maybe scrape about a foot of that off and provide that storage. But like I said, you're impacting wetlands.
So you probably take away up through here these lots and then a good portion of these as well. At that point, you're starting from scratch. It's a complete redesign of the project. Your utilities would change. Your roads would change. You'd have to go back through St. John's. You just start over at that point. So once again, the cost occurred there would fall into the additional lots or the remaining lots that you get out of that. The next item we look at is offsite, and this flood map shows a little bit of that. There's not really a lot of options offsite immediately adjacent to it to provide that storage. This is Lakeside, Palms East, so that's already being developed. Most of the properties that are open space right now are within the floodplain or have wetland impacts on them. Typically, you'd want to see this in an upland area, and you'd lower the elevation of that to provide your compensatory storage. The other option would be in wetlands. You fall back on the environmental impacts now where you're impacting wetlands to provide that storage. ‸ There's a huge cost to mitigate those wetlands again, as well as restoration. ‸ From a cost and environmental standpoint, that would be very expensive for the developer to do. ‸ That's what they presented to us in the letter, ‸ meeting that side of the comp plan requirements, stating why they can't meet the one-to-one. I can answer any questions you all have, the engineers here as well. That can probably answer some questions as far as the stormwater and floodplain items related to the site.
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are being elevated. Typically, what you'd look at would be the neighboring properties if there's any significant rise. Because of the size of the St. Johns River Basin and the size of this particular project, it wouldn't be likely that this amount of fill in this area would cause a significant or measurable rise in the whole St. Johns River Basin.
You can see that here. This line shows, so that's the 100-year mark. I believe the finished floor elevation for a lot of these homes is around 22, 24 feet.
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be a whole lot of subdivisions in Brevard County that never got built if our little comp plan thing was in place. We wouldn't have any houses in Brevard County.
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to apply this sort of exemption, if you will, we had to do our best to cover all the analysis for you. So, as Brian's pointed out, using track C would have a cost and would not yield enough acreage or cubic yards to require to, excuse me, to compensate on site. Would end up being roughly 1.8 million, not including property taxes. The applicants let us know that a national home
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Based on the average sale price of around $250,000, that would mean about $21,750, which doesn't leave much room for the debt service and subdivision construction costs.
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You're looking at roughly 1.1 million in costs to do that. And the applicant is ‸ roughly about a $1.1 million investment. ‸ Offsite wetlands, assuming that the parcel would even be available in the area, and I gave you some information in the staff report on that, would have similar mitigation costs as well as acquisition costs. So, the financial impact on the applicant, considered in light of the size of the St. ‸ John's River floodplain, is considered a light impact. And the previous consultant had already found that that would probably result in a negative, not a negative impact, a minimal impact to the base flood elevation for the 100-year floodplain.
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storage will not be environmentally or economically feasible for the site. As stated in your staff report, there are insufficient upland areas, not within the 100-year floodplain available, either onsite or offsite, to provide the compensatory storage, either because of the extent of the floodplain boundaries or because acquisition would be extremely costly.
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June 16th, and they also approved the large-scale site plan with the condition that the large-scale site plan shall not be effective until and unless the preliminary subdivision has been approved by City Council. So, the recommendation to you tonight is approval of the preliminary subdivision with the condition that the applicant provide a conservation easement for track
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Low Density Residential, providing for the repeal of prior inconsistent ordinances and resolutions, incorporation into the comprehensive plan severability and an effective date and legal status of the plan amendment. This is the first reading of this comprehensive plan ‸ proposal, legislative matter, the property should be familiar to the council.
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‸ So, as you know, it was annexed just recently. There were 59 parcels altogether. ‸ Of those, 43 are owned by the applicant, which is roughly about 122 acres.
are individually owned and in the case of those, the City of Cocoa is the applicant. The grouping of parcels are shown here in red. They're north of 520 and 524, right where they converge and just to the west of Adamson Road. This map shows you the applicant's parcels in green and the independently owned parcels in gray. ‸ Subject parcels are currently under Brevard County residential 2 designation, future land use designation, which permits lower density residential development, maximum of two dwelling units per acre, which can be increased to 2.5 where a plan unit development concept is utilized.
Is intended for neighborhoods of single family detached housing, limited multi-family attached housing, and limited clustered single family attached housing. During the annexation process, the applicant entered into a pre-annexation development agreement, wherein the primary property owners agreed that any PUD project eventually developed ‸ their properties would have following characteristics.
and then the additional criteria you can see there. Assignment of a City future land use designation must be consistent with the City's comprehensive plan. Policy 1.1.2.3 Low density residential requires lands under this designation to provide buffers from the nuisance effects of higher intensity uses and major traffic corridors.
unwarranted due to environmental constraints. These are the surrounding City of Cocoa future land uses. The orange is medium density. The pink is, yeah,
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sampling of them. The planning and zoning board recommended denial at the June 16th meeting, ‸ so I wanted to address that. There was a considerable conversation with the applicant, with the public, and with the board. And the concern was, in part, potential future wetland areas. However, that's something that will be looked at at the development standpoint. At this point, we're really just looking at density with the future land use. The applicant, having signed the development agreement, which limits them to four units per acre, some of the planning board members felt that they were supportive of ‸ utilizing the very low density residential future land use instead of the low density. The applicant had originally come to staff with the application, certainly for low density. Staff looked at it, it's consistent with the area, certainly because you have medium density right across the street.
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to keep him informed, but didn't say anything one way or the other about the action. And then we had an electronic comment come in today from, I ‸ believe it's Harry A. Heret and Iris. Opposed the change from residential two units
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[02:20:31]▶ PlaySpeaker 26 (introduced as “Christine Booth” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
people are not happy with this. I object to the fact that the city has say on my property, which was annexed
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into
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[02:20:39]▶ PlaySpeaker 26 (introduced as “Christine Booth” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
the city without my permission, without asking me, without even notifying me, never received anything until it's already done deal.
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[02:21:04]▶ PlaySpeaker 26 (introduced as “Christine Booth” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
property out there in the boonies. Um,
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[02:21:09]▶ PlaySpeaker 26 (introduced as “Christine Booth” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
And then the next thing you know, they put in a city dump right down the street from him. So now all day long he has to listen to dump trucks, I mean, garbage trucks going up and down the road. So he spends most of his time on the back property, which is mine and his nieces or his daughters, my niece. Um,
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[02:21:33]▶ PlaySpeaker 26 (introduced as “Christine Booth” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
airboat. Um, they put all this, these houses in and out there and, you know, all that's gone away. Stuff that he's had to support his way of life for the last 50 years.
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[02:21:50]▶ PlaySpeaker 26 (introduced as “Christine Booth” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
know. Uh, when he, when he bought out there, it was in the woods. That's what he wanted. That's what all the property around him was zoned
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as.
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[02:21:58]▶ PlaySpeaker 26 (introduced as “Christine Booth” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Um, and it's just not right to just come in there and change it like that.
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[02:22:20]▶ PlaySpeaker 26 (introduced as “Christine Booth” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
I've got pictures on my iPad if you'd like to see it. And, uh, I don't know any of you, but you all seem to have common sense. And I would just encourage you before you agree to this to just go out there and walk across this property. I don't believe you can build a house out there without having to pile in dirt. And when you pile in dirt out there, then that water is going to go.
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[02:22:47]▶ PlaySpeaker 26 (introduced as “Christine Booth” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
be underwater. His fish pond is going to be flooded out. His chickens are going to have rotten feet, you know, walking in water all day. They can't do it.
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what somebody
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builds
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she says is medium density across the street on the other side of Adamson in the county property records still shows as privately owned by some people named Jones shows as county property. I don't understand how that's happening unless something hasn't been updated.
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She owns a property on Adamson has a home on it. It is still considered county. It abuts two more properties, one that she owns and one that her niece owns that have been annexed.
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checkerboard effect. Uh, I don't know what you want to call it. It's not something that's consistent with the way of life out there with the ranch properties on multiple acres. And this is going to be probably at least four houses per acre.
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to mitigate the urban? Sorry, I can't breathe with this thing on the urban to rural transition more effectively. You know, is that I wanted that on the record just to ask if you all would be willing to change. So there'd be a better transition between urban city neighborhoods and developments to the county properties with chickens and airboats. You know, we need something in between.
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[02:26:59]▶ PlaySpeaker 12 (introduced as “Sarah Wagner” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
My name's Sarah Wagner. My address is [address]. Um, I want to state for the record that I have four generations of my family that live on Adamson Road. And I don't know many people that are in this room that can state that anymore.
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Well, the city doesn't provide park service or any of that outside of F Burton Smith Park, which is just west of your location. And then also the boat launching facility there. Um, we do provide, uh, ‸ police fire services out that way as well.
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Okay. So I have, I have a couple more questions, but, um, so I'm just wondering when you guys have development agreements and they come before the city and they come before the manager, why aren't they going to the ‸ planning and zoning boards and asked to them look over it before it goes into being signed or onto the record? Because I think that would mitigate a lot of the, of the problems that you guys are having between the mitigation of a very
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rural density
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my home is a 4,400 square foot home. I live on [address] and I live directly down the road from this. So you're telling me that these homes are going to be built and they're saying they're single family, but there's ‸ a reason why they're trying to do it as low density, not very low density. There just needs to be some type of action with the city council that thinks of larger lots and smaller homes. So that way there is a buffer between the people who currently reside in the county and the new ones that are going to be coming in from the city.
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You don't have complaints coming in later. This is something that you guys need to protect for the St. Johns River water management. Like these are things that you guys really need to be taking into consideration when you're signing these development agreements and that's not currently being done by the city.
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dwellings units per acre or have the developer create a buffer all the way around those county homes. They bought these properties years ago, 50 years ago. Why should they have to go in and change something that they were, they invested their whole life savings into?
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home and it's going to be directly affected by this property. And it's very sad. Thank you.
anything, but you know, we, we have, we look at a lot of that stuff when the site plans are, are done. And, you know, just to say this is going to happen, that's going to happen without the site plan of being here is just, you know, that's stuff that will be addressed on that process.
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have what they're proposing is eight homes along my property line, which is in 40 foot distance of my house. I have kids. I have ‸ boats, you know, airboats and dogs I met and I'm out there with nothing. Like
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got a neighbor on each side of them, in front of them, behind them to deal with. Now I got eight in one line right there. I cannot keep all eight people happy. It's hard to keep people in here happy. People's got different judgments. People take naps at different times. I'm an active person. I'm a respectful person. You know,
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know, it's just, that's why we live like we live to try to have a little space. Everybody has kids with horses, you know, it just gives them room. When you bring the city in on it, that's gone. We can't have farm life. We can't have horses, chickens, hogs, whatever you want to do. That's our little piece of heaven that keeps us, it's kind of like y'alls parks and everything. I mean, it's, it's in us, that's the way we've growed up.
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It's just, that's what we want, you know, and I'm not trying to tell them not to do, but I think we need to open it up a little bigger. Give people opportunities to have a little more space. Don't just cram it all in here, because the time we fill in all these wetlands and stuff, it's just encroaching back towards the city and up. And it's just, I'm just trying to, let's go back to what the county is on the two to two and a half. Let's push for that or a very low density. Thank you all.
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I live at [address], and that was my husband. I just wanted to say something really quick, too, as well. About three years ago, I had to go and rezone my property. We had purchased one acre, and at the time it was zoned, you had to have two and a half acres just to build your house on it. So I had to
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the most, for the same reasons as my husband stated. I know it's low density seems like, okay, four houses per acre, but what we're not taking into account is there is a lot of wetlands. And what they're gonna do is they're gonna build more homes per acre because they're gonna use those wetlands as a total amount of acreage.
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low density residential LDR. This item was on the agenda at the last PNZ meeting held on June 16, 2020. There were several residents in attendance at that meeting to voice their opposition to this change. The vote by the PNZ board was unanimous to not recommend the approval of this change as written.
the value of the surrounding properties and would alter the current lifestyle dynamics of that ‸ area. This is a predominantly rural area where residents enjoy the ability to have small livestock, such as horses and chickens. To allow a low density residential from the current residential two units per acre would bring the very type of development these owners did not wish to have. As a member of the PNZ board, I ask that you have staff reevaluate this request and bring back a recommendation more appropriate to the area. Thank you for your time. Jerry Blanco, Cocoa Florida 32922.
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grew up in. Again, you know, much of what you've already heard about this being a really rural area. You know, excuse my presentation, I wasn't planning on speaking today. But, I mean, I have a couple questions. You say that you're taking a lot of things into consideration, but I'm pretty sure just watching this meeting today that you guys just waived a compensatory storage requirement in lieu of an easement. So, how are we supposed to feel that you necessarily have either the environment or our own best interests at heart? Also, this, the agenda itself says that this is
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familiar with the Chinese game Go where you surround your opponent's pieces and then gain all the ones inside? If you look at the expansion of District 3, you might find a lot of similarities with that game. Thank you. Thank
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Company, GG2 LLC, and Jacob Aaron Corporation. This has been a long process. We have been working on this process for well over two years with the city staff. We have come before you three times for this property.
This is also in the public records. There has been no comments from the public on any of these issues. And that site plan that was referenced by Mr. Bernal, that was a draft site plan that we'd actually prepared for the county, and we brought it in here to talk about how your PUD worked. No PUD has been submitted. This is not zoning. This is not annexation. This is just future land use. And this has been before you before, and the public has then had the ability to weigh in, and has not up until PNZ last week. At PNZ, many members in the audience believed it was annexation or was zoning. And I do believe one member of the PNZ board voted against denial.
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was recommended by your former city manager. And this was in many meetings with the city manager. And my understanding was is because low density residential abutted your medium density ‸ residential, the part that connects.
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criteria for allocation. And that is, was provided to you ‸ earlier. That's very low density residential areas shall be buffered from the nuisance effects of agricultural uses, higher
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It will generally be limited to the western two-thirds of the property due to substantial wetlands on the eastern portion of the property. It is not intended to fill in wetlands and that will all be reviewed by the state agencies and by your city staff during site plan. There will be drainage issues, there will be buffering, and there will be wetland protection as your code requires. Regarding some of the public comments, the wetlands and flooding are issues for the PUD and the site plan. There is school capacity. We had a school capacity analysis done for this future land use and there is capacity at all levels. The developer will be bringing sewer and I believe also water to this. ‸ There's a connection right there at the corner, the western corner at the roadway. And so this will be sewer. I don't know if those are amenities, but they will be brought in by the developer. Again, this is future land use. It's a legislative policy decision. It meets your code and it has staff recommendation. And I ask that you approve the future land use designation to low density residential.
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the concerns ‸ that everybody has about the homes that are going to be abutting their property ‸ and being right up on them, I mean, I'm very familiar with the area out there and I definitely understand the concern. Those issues of the actual placement of the lots and the actual placement of the houses and like how many actual buildings will be behind a certain property, those are addressed in the PUD process. What we're approving tonight has zero effect on that.
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going to be a house right behind me where the people are not going to like the sound of my... Those are issues that can be addressed in the actual design of the PUD. And we can provide for buffers. We
provide that there's not eight properties built up against one acre and we can address those issues then. You know, what's happening tonight is not saying there's going to be eight houses built behind your house. That there's a, there's a whole nother process for that.
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I just, I don't want anybody to think that if they leave here tonight with this being approved, that there's going to be a bunch of houses built on top of them because we're far from that. Correct. Yeah.
The, the process to bring a PUD, which is a zoning designation, that goes to the planning and zoning board. It comes back to you for two readings because it's an actual zoning change. So it's done by ordinance. And it, that incorporates staff review and also agency review. So the
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for entrances, the county, depending on the roadway, you know, and that's all the engineering. So it's going to have to, the city's consultants will look at it for stormwater and floodplain management and all those things. Plus all of the, the eight city staff departments that review for utilities and what have you. So
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quality and some are going to be lesser quality. And, but St. John's will have the determining factor about where that delineated boundary is and what kind of impact is possible. And, and what isn't. And they'll have, you know, the applicant will have to kind of lay out a plan for where housing will go and incorporate all of those things.
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who made the comment about there being a significant amount of wetlands. They know they can't build on it. So that will justify the four units per acre rather than spreading them out. I mean, I'm not sure.
they, in the development agreement, they laid out the lot sizes. So, yes, you may have, you know, an area of the parcel as a whole where you have a number of
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However, you're going to have other acre, one acre parts of that overall parcel that have nothing. So, I mean, that's kind of how that kind of development tends to work with the PUDs.
you have the housing, you know, wrapped around that area. Now, that's much smaller and the density is completely different. But, you know, if you're, if you could, I suppose, consider, you know, maybe doing the ‸ very low density. It matches the density that was allowed in the development agreement, which is four units an acre.
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previous, um, stint on the council. I seem to remember we had a development out in West Coco that had some similar issues and when they brought the, the plot, the plan, we had insisted that the properties along the edge of the development be, um, less dense, meaning there was a buffer,
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isn't going to change the density of what their project's going to do. The only real difference would be for the other parcels that aren't part of that project, um, because they're not under that development agreement. So that is a bigger impact to them and their ability to develop, um, you know, and have a higher density, if you will, zoning.
there, but just let us do what we're doing here. So we can get these answers addressed and then we'll, we'll, we'll let you all speak. That's the wishes of the council because we went to the public. We came back to the council.
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come up and make a couple of comments real quick, then it's okay with me. It's up to the council. Okay. Do you, you all have any issues with that or? Okay. Yes, ma'am.
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[02:55:40]▶ PlaySpeaker 12 (introduced as “Sarah Wagner” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
If they're granted the, the low density, um, my ask would be that you allow the other 16 that the city is asking to be the applicant on that you allow. Ms. Booth and Mr. Green and their niece to apply for their own because they could really have been
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and they could have kept that the way that they wanted it. So, that's, that's, I really do think the, the 16 should be allowed to go after the very low density because they do
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the property and
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Um. And also because directly across the street you have medium density residential. So, the intent is to try to not skip over. So, if you have medium density and low density, that's the next step versus very low density.
hand, like I said, there's a, you know, the applicant is bound by a four units per acre. So, if you make everything very low density, then at least it's consistent. And, um, certainly, you know, most of the people will probably prefer that. I mean, that's certainly the feedback we're all getting. So, I, I see no, no major problem with that.
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your lights still on. Um. And, did you have something you want to say real quick? Yes, ma'am. If you can come up to the mic real quick. And then, uh, so we can.
The future land use map has absolutely not one property on the west side of Adamson Road. Starting with this one, it will set a precedent. That's my caution.
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yes, the, these are the first parcels that the city's annexed west of, of Adamson Road. But, um, property once it's annexed, um, then gets a city future land use. Um, whatever, you know, um, is voted on. Um, so, it's not going to stay under the county's future land use. Because it's now been annexed into the city. So, we're gonna apply something to ‸ it. Um. Um, so, it's not, it's not a, a, a leave off kind of thing, if that makes sense.
Um, well, low density is seven units per acre. Um, so, considerably more than, uh, what's out there, you know, in, in terms of the built environment right now, right? So, there, um, and then, um, the other thing was, there was mention of,
the word cluster is in the, um, low density. It talks, it's described as a, a designation that would apply to detached, um, single family attached and clustered attached, which would be like townhomes. And so, because the zoning designations under low density, um, are a little bit higher than the ones under very low density. So, um, that was, that struck a nerve, uh, in some of the audience, uh, because they're already not comfortable with, uh, you know, new houses coming in and the, and the perception of the density, and then that language leaves the door open, at least if you're reading it, to being, not only gonna ‸ have houses that somebody could put townhomes. That's not necessarily the case. It doesn't really have anything to do with that. That, whether you can have townhomes or not is based on your zoning, which is the next step. Um, and, and that's not in the development agreement. ‸ Development agreement is specifically single family housing. So, that wouldn't be the case. But, you can, by all means, you know, consider going with very low density, because as I said, that's really the only difference, um, as
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And, of course, all that stuff will be addressed, um, doing that, those favors. So, I just, um, you know, that's just what I got from there, from the meeting.
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so what you're saying is, it doesn't really matter if we go with low density or, or very low density. There's still four units per acre in this development agreement.
very low density, there's a list of zoning districts that they can apply for. And, if you go with low density, there's a different list. Um, there's some overlap, but there's a slight difference. Um, and low density allows more dense zoning districts.
So, answer me this. If I own one of those 16 pieces of property, and we go ahead and we make this change, and I come ‸ in to you when it's time for zoning, after this is done, and I want that higher zoning, I want the best possible zoning I can get, and we agree, then it's some future time, when I'm dead and my children decide to sell my property, they could sell it to somebody who wants to develop up to seven homes on that property per acre.
That's, that's correct. The higher the density, ‸ usually the higher the price, um, the more value it has. But then it, that's subjective, um, because certainly low density has a very high value for the people who are living there now. But
it gives my heirs or myself or whoever ‸ the option, I can still put my one house on my acre, or I can sell it to somebody who wants to do seven when I move on or whatever. Right. Okay.
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is, um, ‸ you guys had mentioned at the last council meeting, uh, made the recommendation for any public special events to bring them back. Um, we had a few that had originally showed interest in wanting to do some, um, special events. Um, but due to some of the increases in the COVID cases have since backed out of that. Um, so the only one that we did have approach us, um, was for a block party. Um, and
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people that were attending that event, um, to wear a mask. And, um, they said it's a larger property. Um, so there would be plenty of ‸ room for people to, um, social distance. So, um, before you is the only, um, group that has still requested to hold a, um, event.
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Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings; a language review questioned the wording · 03:07:16–03:07:18 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: words only one machine reading has (possibly not said) · 03:07:26–03:07:29 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings; a language review questioned the wording · 03:07:30–03:07:33 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: words only one machine reading has (possibly not said); the recognizer flagged its own output; a language review questioned the wording · 03:07:49–03:07:52 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Yes. They've, they have submitted in the past and for a block party, but in the past, it's been just a road closure that's come to council. The difference now is the fact that we have
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 03:08:24–03:08:28 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
under our event, our special events permit, it is considered a special event because it's a block party and requesting a street closure, which has to be approved by council. Um, so therefore, we're bringing it before council for approval.
you know, all over and this, this foolishness has been going on. Um, you know, we're gonna block the roads off, but then is there, are they providing any kind of security or anything for the folks that are there?
Flag: words only one machine reading has (possibly not said); the recognizer flagged its own output · 03:09:18–03:09:21 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 03:09:30–03:09:31 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Do we have policy that says that ‸ they have to hire the PD? Can they hire private security? Because I know sometimes Cocoa Village hires private security.
That's just in addition to what they're required. Because the, well the ordinance says you have to, you have, for certain events you have to have a Cocoa police officer. So there are certain requirements. You know, certain road closures, if you're gating an event, if you have so many people, if you have alcohol, those are all things that would require an officer. And it is a Cocoa police officer. But then there's certain events that will hire additional security for added reasons.
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings; the recognizer flagged its own output; a language review questioned the wording · 03:10:38–03:10:46 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 03:10:51–03:10:52 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 03:11:01–03:11:06 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 03:11:12–03:11:13 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 03:11:13–03:11:17 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 03:11:23–03:11:24 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings; a language review questioned the wording · 03:11:50–03:11:56 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 03:12:12–03:12:16 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 03:12:17–03:12:19 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 03:12:23–03:12:25 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings; the recognizer flagged its own output; a language review questioned the wording · 03:12:25–03:12:28 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings; words only one machine reading has (possibly not said); a language review questioned the wording · 03:12:31–03:12:48 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Yes, this item is related to green waste at commercial properties. So we're seeking approval from council to basically work through waste management to have this removed. It'll be a collaborative effort between public works and code enforcement. One of the big issues we have is commercial accounts are not required recycling or green waste as part of their standard pickups. They can directly contact waste management for that pickup, but many do not. So we will have code enforcement cite the property, provide them 10 days to dispose of their waste properly. They can contact waste management, haul it off their self, or contact a hauler. At that 10 day mark, if they don't do that, we will call waste management directly. And waste management will then bill us, and then we'll bill that property account owner through
Flag: words were replaced by a machine repair · 03:13:51–03:13:51 · machine repair: words replaced where two further machine readings agreed (not checked by a person)
This is one step we're taking to try to address that problem around the city. We hope in the future to have some future items related to residential and other commercial items as well. So the full requested action. Staff is seeking council approval to work through the city, to work through the city solid waste contractor, for the scheduled removal and billing of illicit vegetative commercial waste in the right-of-way. Staff is requesting approval to directly charge the commercial properties through the assigned utility account owner, based on the billing received from the solid waste contractor for the removal.
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 03:14:39–03:14:42 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 03:14:43–03:14:47 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: words were replaced by a machine repair · 03:14:55–03:14:55 · machine repair: words replaced where two further machine readings agreed (not checked by a person)
still got this problem with this dude. Ideally, ‸ working through code enforcement would be to have a continuing contractor similar to what they're doing for lawn abatement to
Flag: words were replaced by a machine repair · 03:15:06–03:15:06 · machine repair: words replaced where two further machine readings agreed (not checked by a person)
provide that service. That would probably be the quickest route. But that's something we are trying to look at. Because it's a code enforcement item. It's also a public works item when it comes into our right-of-way as well.
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 03:15:22–03:15:25 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 03:15:26–03:15:29 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings; a language review questioned the wording · 03:15:50–03:15:52 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
amending section 2-51 of the City Code, provide that regular City Council meeting shall be held on every second and fourth of Tuesday of each and every month, providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions and cooperation and code ‸ servability and effective
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings; a language review questioned the wording · 03:16:13–03:16:16 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 03:16:23–03:16:32 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 03:16:38–03:16:42 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings; a language review questioned the wording · 03:16:45–03:16:48 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 03:17:07–03:17:09 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings; a language review questioned the wording · 03:17:21–03:17:24 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings; a language review questioned the wording · 03:17:42–03:17:47 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 03:17:53–03:17:56 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 03:17:56–03:17:58 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 03:17:59–03:18:00 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording