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Planning & Zoning

Planning & Zoning Regular Meeting

Date
2022-07-06
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #704
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The City's record

What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (903_PZ_Reg_Minutes_07_06_2022.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Russell Sengel, Marilyn Green, Michael Dobrin, Veronica Lopez, Justin Simpson, Al Washington, Aleck Greenwood, Merrybeth Burgess, Debbie Joyce
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines; no independent membership list of this board is available to confirm that the roll is complete.)
  • Listed absent: Todd Anderson, Susan Mock
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Kristin Eick (Board Attorney), Lori Chabot (Recording Secretary)
  • Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: BURGESS, DOBRIN, GREEN, GREENWOOD, LOPEZ, SENGEL, SIMPSON, WASHINGTON (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (6)

  • to APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR THE REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING OF JULY 6, 2022 (moved by WASHINGTON, seconded by GREEN); PASSED 8-0; ayes: SENGEL, GREEN, DOBRIN, LOPEZ, SIMPSON, WASHINGTON, GREENWOOD, BURGESS; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
  • to approve Ordinance 06-2022, a Comprehensive Plan Text Amendment consistent with Chapter 163, Florida Statutes, to correct a scrivener’s error in the Future Land Use Element, Figure FLU-1, to provide that the RU-2-10 zoning district is an allowable zoning district only in the Low Density Residential … (moved by WASHINGTON, seconded by SIMPSON); PASSED 8-0; ayes: SENGEL, GREEN, DOBRIN, LOPEZ, SIMPSON, WASHINGTON, GREENWOOD, BURGESS; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
  • to approve Ordinance 06-2022, a Comprehensive Plan Text Amendment consistent with Chapter 163, Florida Statutes, to correct a scrivener’s error in the Future Land Use Element, Figure FLU-1, to provide that the RU-2-10 zoning district is an allowable zoning district only in the Low Density Residential … (moved by ALTERNATE MEMBER GREENWOOD, seconded by DOBRIN); PASSED 8-0; ayes: SENGEL, GREEN, DOBRIN, LOPEZ, SIMPSON, WASHINGTON, GREENWOOD, BURGESS; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 4
  • to approve a Comprehensive Plan Text Amendment: In the capacity of Land Planning Agency recommendation to the city council to adopt a large-scale comprehensive plan text amendment (Ordinance No. XX-2022) to create a policy in the future land use element authorizing the City Council to approve by … (moved by GREENWOOD, seconded by GREEN); PASSED 8-0; ayes: SENGEL, GREEN, DOBRIN, LOPEZ, SIMPSON, WASHINGTON, GREENWOOD, BURGESS; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 5; the vote on p. 6
  • to approve the requested action Chapter 18 Subdivisions and Appendix A Zoning of the City Code (moved by GREEN, seconded by ALTERNATE MEMBER GREENWOOD); PASSED 8-0; ayes: SENGEL, GREEN, DOBRIN, LOPEZ, SIMPSON, WASHINGTON, GREENWOOD, BURGESS; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 6
  • to ADJOURN THE REGULAR MEETING OF JULY 6, 2022 (moved by SENGEL, seconded by SIMPSON); PASSED 8-0; ayes: SENGEL, GREEN, DOBRIN, LOPEZ, SIMPSON, WASHINGTON, GREENWOOD, BURGESS; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 7

Agenda (the City's wording)

The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (PZ_Reg_Packet_07_06_2022), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.

Transcript Partial transcript

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All right, it's 6 o'clock. I'm going to call the meeting to order.
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Thank you. If we can all stand and face the flag please. I
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pledge
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allegiance to the flag
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of
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the United States of
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America and
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to
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the Republic for which it stands, one nation under
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God,
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indivisible, with liberty
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and justice for all.
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I understand we don't have any minutes to approve correct?
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No, so there's no minutes for this evening. Monica wanted to be able to go over some of it for you so she saved them for the next time.
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Okay. Everybody had a chance to look at the agenda?
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Yes.
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Do we have any questions? Look for a motion. Motion
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I second it.
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Second by Maryland. All in favor say aye.
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Aye.
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Motion carries. So we'll turn it over to staff.
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All right. Good evening board members. My name for the record is Kristen.
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I'm actually going to present the first item on the agenda this evening. The city attorney's office is requesting that the board recommend approval of an ordinance correcting
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related to the consent decree area. So just to give a bit of background showing on
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for approval in the ordinance that was provided to you in your packet. Um, this chart shows the, uh, applicable zoning districts that are allowed in each of the future land use categories, um, in the city. And this particular one is related to, uh, residential and conservation future land use categories.
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the, uh, kit, the
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decree, um, is
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a settlement agreement essentially that was approved, um, and is enforced by, by the federal courts. Um, and it applies to the consent decree area or otherwise known as the heart of cocoa neighborhood here in cocoa. That, um, consent decree requires us to take certain actions, um, with respect to our land use regulations in the heart of cocoa neighborhood. And specifically the city is required to maintain, um, zoning ‸ regulations that preserve the consent decree areas, uh, low density residential character.
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time of the, uh, substitute consent decrees, uh, approval. So with that background, what, um, the ordinance is doing is actually is shown there in bold and underlined and strike through. So we are proposing to
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again, synonymous essentially with the, um, cocoa, um, with the hard cocoa neighborhood.
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it into the low density residential category. Frankly,
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to maintain the low density residential character, um, of the consent decree area. We again, believe this is a Scrivener's error and we're not quite sure how it ended up in the medium density and high density, um, uh, you know, categories in this chart, but we're trying to correct that error. Um, this also,
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just wanted to note that this would not change any future land use category for the properties in the neighborhood. They are already have a future land use designation of low density. So we'll not change that. This is merely a correction of the chart. So, and also the zoning category will stay the same for those properties. They
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Okay. Any questions from the board? No, it's it's it's
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ordinance change.
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Okay. Is
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Yes. Yes.
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Okay. So I'm gonna ‸ open up the public.
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that opening to the public and.
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Second. Motion by Al. Second by Justin. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed. Motion carries. Move
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We're just gonna get your PowerPoint going here. good evening everyone
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and I will be presenting this item tonight it is complex and lengthy I'm sure you found that if you've read your staff report in great detail I will work on summarizing the staff report and taking you through it and then being able to answer any questions should you have them. So this is the consideration ‸ of a comprehensive plan text amendment to
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its number as it moves through the process to create a policy in the future land use element authorizing the City Council to approve by development agreement residential densities of up to
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very specific lots that we will go through in this presentation. ‸ give you a little background of how this started. We have a lot of interest in various areas of the city to develop at higher density than 30 dwelling units per acre, which right now in the city is the maximum density that you can develop that Typically, it's
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should you do a nice mixed-use development mixing your residential, your commercial office, some type of mix you get an additional five
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units per acre added to that 25 making it 30 so the other thing I want to note too before I get too far into this is because this is a comprehensive plan amendment. This amendment must go to the state and so in the writing of the staff report, the state refers to the body that you're representing today is the land planning agency. So you may have seen that written in the staff report. So you're the city of Coco's land planning agency who
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which is actually almost directly behind all of you. And they decided to have a neighborhood meeting with the community at large to understand how this may be received within the community. And so they held the workshop and invited all the property owners within 200 feet of the property and then, of course, notice the meeting too. So anybody within the community was welcome to attend. At that meeting, staff was under the impression that there really was overwhelming support from all ‸ the business owners in the area. There were obviously concerns that were discussed and and details that we seen could be worked out so staff kind of brought this back to the drawing board and evaluated where where were the right opportunities to allow for 125
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within the city and where should we look at potentially bringing this forward to you and so that's what I'm presenting tonight is how we have consolidated our our information and our data and come up with a few specifically three lots in which we are recommending this 125 to use per acre amendment on the first thing that went into a lot of our research was just the just the fact that the number of requests that we get
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then with that redevelopment interest in the city looking at how our current plans and policies and code encourage or discourage such development and what we found is really there's somewhat of a and I'll say this multiple times as you probably read it in my staff report too there's somewhat of a trifecta of plans that come together and encouraging um mixed use development within our city and one of those is the um the mixed
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which we talked about specifically at our last meeting in great detail when we had the car wash application before you so this is somewhat good timing because I feel like you have a good understanding of the mixed use future land use in addition to that too there's also the cocoa waterfront district and also the community redevelopment agency the cocoa CRA all of these plans really discuss the potential for having mixed use for having residential for having larger developments um in those areas that really bring a synergy um to the cocoa village and so with that guidance from those plans staff then started to look at, what hang
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All of those plans also set out a lot of other details. And one of those details really is the need to balance and preserve the historical character of the village. um
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at properties that obviously are not as old as and have that historic character. So when we started to narrow this down ‸ we really looked at all properties that were either vacant, um so void
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currently had a building on it from 1950s and newer. So those were the sites that that we started to look at. In doing so, um we felt that it that it really was to the city's advantage to look at the higher density. Another thing that we learned in kind of
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that we learned in kind of doing this research in the village is that we learned in the city's
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that most of the properties are rather small, right? Two acres, three acres, less than two acres. And in doing so, we've been told by the market that being able to only do 30 or 60 units on, say, a two acre property
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not going to create interest by the developers because it is not going to be profitable at the few at the limited number of residential units that they can bring in on those parcels. So we took that into consideration also. And again, just kind of, I guess, reiterating, um the proposal before you were really looking at to further the intent of the mixed use future land use because it is encouraging that mixed use. We feel that by increasing this density with the proposal that we have before you today, that it really does help us further that intent because at that density, that's where we're going to get interest from developers in
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also feel that it's promoted through the waterfront district. and
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and to to bring in acceptable mixed use projects um to the city. So having said that, I
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wrong one, sorry. i Made this slide for you, um which is very similar to, again, last month's presentation. But just to kind of understand the process in which this moves through. So the future land use, the blue box at the top of mixed use is where the density is set, is where the maximum density is set. And you can see in the white box on the left, that is uh ‸ similar to the um um chart that Kristen had just showed you for residential, but this was our commercial mixed
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per acre. And then it is footnoted um through number two to allow those five additional units based on a mix of uses. And this is current today. And so then you go through the next steps, right? So you go through the zoning code. And in the districts we're looking in
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type of items. And then we have a third layer, because it is in the waterfront district. Then you look at the waterfront district overlay. And this obviously adds some additional regulations for the type of building that you can have, maintaining our historic architecture, those type of ‸ things, looking at the appropriate number of stories that you can have. And my next box there that says development agreement, you don't always have to have a development agreement when you work yourself through the process on the left. But if you are going to do a commercial large development of mixed use then our regulating plan does require you to have a development agreement under that scenario. So going through that entire process,
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should you meet all of those requirements. So what we're proposing today, moving over to the right side of that slide, is we're proposing only to amend the blue box. We're proposing to amend the future land use, maximum of mixed use maximum density to 125
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per acre, but on very specific lots. And I'll get into that um with the
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again, become the zone and the waterfront overlay district. So very potentially in the next month or two, you are going to see um some, should it be recommended for approval um tonight and with city council, and
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amending the zoning code and a few of the items in the waterfront overlay district so that they all complement it. So again, you're
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working through the flow of this. We're at the highest level tonight um
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and then we continue through it as we go.
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I apologize for the slide in that sense. But this was in your, um this was
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And so these are the amendments that would need to be made to the um
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future land use um document, or I'm sorry, to the comprehensive plan document. And these support basically the information that I'm going to continue um to tell you about. And so we're looking at putting constraints on the 125 to use per acre, and it would be based on the three properties that you see there in blue. And ‸ then a bunch of um requirements or um a bunch of items that we want to be sure that the development that comes before us is right. Right? So we're looking at things like economic and social benefit, the aesthetic quality, um the compatibility and harmony um with the surrounding properties in the district, in the waterfront district, those type of things. So that would all be spelled out in our comprehensive plan that those are looked at right up front in the beginning, and then continue um to flow through the process in, in
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in even more detail as we continue through. And this is just really just a graphic of showing you the, the regulating plan, um right now refers to the, oh I
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I have to have a small one so I can see it and I can't see the big one up there. Sorry. So ‸ I
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um so it's a graphic showing you that
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exist in our comprehensive plan and only allow it on the proposed three lots at this point in time. ‸ showing you these a little bit closer. So, I want to drill down just a little bit so that it makes sense as to why we're at the biggest level at this point. But this is our regulating plan. And right now, um with 125 dwelling units per acre, you really need to probably fall within the residential, make sure I call it the right thing, the ‸ commercial mixed use large category. And
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use category. But again, this would take an engineer to
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a commercial mixed use large in any of the pink areas there, which is the waterfront area and then the Cocoa Village area. And this is the um small box that you see in the upper left hand corner, just showing you that right now, um the commercial mixed use large um is allowed with some some stipulations
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development plan on particular lots. ‸ And
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on very, very specific lots. So, let's be more specific about these lots. um We have 430 Brevard um before you. And then we have 505 Brevard and
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site um site. In a lot of our staff discussions, we just, we discussed that it's really at the same scale as the other two lots and has the potential um to carry the weight of 125 dwelling units per acre.
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um with the opportunity to have the larger density in the future the gray box on the left outlines the maximum density that they could have based on the acres and this is a good study here too where you can see that 430 brevard is is really the largest lot at 1.95 acres the other two are a little bit smaller If all three of them were to be developed at the 125 dwelling units per acre, you we would have a maximum of 565 units added to the village on these three lots. Of course, we know that 630 Brevard is going to move forward with our
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which case we're looking at about 400 units in total.
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it's just a lot that met the conditions that I referred to either earlier about the age, the size of the property, those, um those type of elements, which is why we included it, um In this proposal.
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so Angela, sorry, I just wanted to make clear because you, um are referring to ‸ lots, but ‸ it's actually, I would say more sites because there are more lots that are affected. So,
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this. it has three lots involved in that one site. Yes, that is
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correct. Yeah. Perfect. Perfect. You're right. uh yeah. Those are the tax ID numbers that
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that are showing up there on that map. ‸ So thank you. Yeah. So the next thing we looked at as staff, which is also obviously, um sound planning practices, but also required by the state, um in our review and to go into detail about the requirements ‸ As stated in the comprehensive plan and looking at all the elements, um before us to make sure that these these properties can actually withstand, um the development, right? Are we proposing too much demand on these um properties? um
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Those type of things to encourage these sites to be developed with mixed use. and really what we found was that, um they all, they do meet all the requirements, but I'm going to walk you through each of these just really quickly. The first requirement is looking at the city's budget and the economy of the region. and we,
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investing millions to transform, um a blighted building and
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will bring obviously, um investment into the city. ‸ will increase our tax base. It will bring additional um residents into the city. All of this ‸ has a huge economic impact on the city and very favorable for us. It can also, um a lot of times one development or two can really generate a lot of interest in expanding the existing commercial businesses that are there. And
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just that. At the same time, the historic
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Main Street, um would also economically, um benefit from this project. They, um one of their missions or goals is to be a unique and thriving regional destination offering a diverse mix of businesses, culture, and entertainment activities for visitors and residents alike. Obviously we'd be adding to the residents, um for them. And then the next category is service level of public facilities. And we did include in your staff report, um a nice template of all the city services that are required to meet water, you know, gallons per minute,
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call them our development review committee and everyone helps out with this in giving us their expertise on these areas. They looked at the one chart that I had put up with the maximum number of, of residential units. They looked at the current commercial uses that are on there. They obviously looked at the hotel use and, and factored in all those items to make sure that we do have adequate services. And so potable water was looked at reclaimed wastewater, um electrical service, solid waste. One that's um noteworthy to mention is the storm water. And
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the hotel and some of the other developments that are happening in this area. Because these sites are almost 100 impermeable at this point, bringing in new development on these lots actually makes them more environmentally sound and more, um climate resilient developments because of the practices that they will be using, um to filter the storm water, to send it through a lengthier process before it ends, ends up in the river, um clarifying that water. And obviously, um uh
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very technical and engineering aspect, but these developments would be very, very good for, um the environment in that sense compared to where they're at today. Parks, we looked at the number of parks and oh I'm skipping schools, sorry. oh ‸ transportation, sorry, I'm getting ahead of myself. um So transportation was the next category and
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our Public Works Department looked at this very closely, looked at all the level service of the roads and looked at the anticipated level of service with these developments and they would all still meet the level of services that are required through our comprehensive plan. The
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um the the initial traffic study for there showed that compared to if the bank were there today
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operating with the number of of drive-through lanes that it had, the um 125
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actually has less
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very interesting when you kind of start to break down the movements of a commercial use um versus a residential use in that sense. We
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and they said, obviously the city is committed to serving those areas. areas um we looked We
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given this an initial look and they said that the schools in the area could handle the additional projected 74 students that would come from such a project and ‸ that is including both um 430
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if that were to ever develop at this density we looked at the parks obviously they would be very lucky residents to be right across um from a major park and um in addition to that it looks like the initial park study that's coming out is showing that um the level of service that is required in the comprehensive plan is 1.25 acres per 1000 population
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So we are doing very good in in in that area. um so that brings us to the environmental, natural and historic resources. The third item there. And so we need to look too that. It will not affect any natural or historic resources. And this is where kind of the staff came up with our 1950s.
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We do not want to take down any of the historic buildings that are there. So this amendment does not propose to do that in any such way. um and then the remainder, you know, the other side is vacant, so it doesn't, it doesn't alter that in any way. uh
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consistent with the State Comprehensive Plan. I also outlined where we are consistent with the East Central Florida Comprehensive Regional Plan, um another plan that we fall under here in the city. And then that brings us to E, the city's avail the city's ability to provide adequate public facilities, which we've gone over in quite detail um under
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just making sure that we either have this the adequate facilities today or are able to provide them in the future. um Item
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So this was another item that we took great consideration in choosing the three areas for this amendment change. We really
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closely at what was around it, what was the massing of the buildings around it. The
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to eight stories with the commercial mixed-use large. And so obviously an eight-story building does have an impact on its surrounding area. And we wanted to make sure that impact was not negative to say a single-family residential home across the street or something of the like. And so that's really one thing that helped us narrow down these lots also. um And so that was looked at very closely too.
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obviously it is going to add housing to our housing stock. It also adds a variety of housing to our stock, which is, is excellent. The more, um the more variety of housing that we can add to the city. Obviously, um the, the more attraction we have to a variety of residents also within the city. And then our last one consistent with the city's comprehensive plan. And I know as I outlined in the staff report, there are quite a few elements that we found that make this, um amendment consistent with that items listed in the future land use element
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listed in the coastal management element, referring to that storm water those type of things. And then
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brings me to staff's recommendation is to have you as a land planning agency recommend approval to the city council. Of the proposed comprehensive plan text
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answer any questions because I
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people, two cards on this item that would like to speak. So they might answer some of our questions. So we're going to go ahead and um let the people speak first. First card I have is Carolyn Haslam. Get your name and address for the record.
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second. ‸ I think that you got to push the little button.
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all
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If I just stand here, can you guys hear me?
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can sit down. This is an interesting turn of events for me. Should we do that? Good evening. I'm
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is 420 South Orange Avenue, Suite 1200 in Orlando, Florida, 32801.
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speak tonight on in support of the text amendment.
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this amendment allows for the city to direct high density development in a very limited area, which will be small enough to target these key parcels, which the city has identified as catalyst mixed use sites for redevelopment at densities that will promote these vertical mixed use developments. Um, which will be supported by existing infrastructure in a way that promotes walkability and ‸ economic vitality of the cocoa village. The amendment allows for the density that makes a project economically viable on a site that is one, two or, you know, three acres.
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to have lower density. Um, the larger mixed use developments on these properties also, um, better support the existing businesses within the cocoa village. The, um, people who live at these developments will shop at the stores, will eat at the restaurants. They'll visit the waterfront park. They'll go to the cocoa village events and
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be, you know, vibrant members of this community.
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utilities of various kinds, water, sewer, roads, all that issues previously mentioned. Um,
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know, downtown areas were meant to be developed and this is exactly what you're positioned to, um, provide to anybody who would develop here.
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that they had. Um, the analysis that went into this comprehensive plan amendment was extensive and extraordinary ‸ and very much appreciated.
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develop downtown. Um, we believe that, you know, cocoa village with this density will provide for a, um, development for distinct, attractive
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be able to develop downtown.
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Um, that was exactly what was envisioned by the 2008 waterfront plan. And this will help bring that vision to reality. Um, it also helps balance with the historical areas and the need for lower density in the heart of cocoa area. So it, it, you know, it really could not have been a better way to approach it by looking at specific sites that benefit, um, from this while also protecting the other areas.
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we're in support of it and thanks staff for all of their hard work. Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Sort of feels like testifying to Congress over here.
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I represent the framework group and yes, we've proposed a large mixed use development in cocoa village. Uh, that's only made possible by this comprehensive plan amendment that's being proposed. But I also want to, uh, sort of zoom out for a moment and say that. As Carolyn mentioned, uh, these additional sites that are being covered by this comp plan amendment, um, proposed comp plan amendment, our catalyst mixed use sites identified by the city's own waterfront master plan. And we are interested not only of course, in making our own development happen, but just the prosperity of the village as a whole. Uh, the
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doing business here, we have another development under construction in cocoa.
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specifically the village spoken with many stakeholders, uh, merchants and business owners in the village and they're in support of this additional density, just because it makes. So much sense and ‸ with the mixed use category having been around for 12 years, uh, nothing, uh, ‸ mixed use nature has been proposed and it's because it doesn't work at the density that currently exists. Uh,
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It's efficient use of city resources, infrastructure, as
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been mentioned. Uh, there's also a large concern over safety in the village and having additional eyes on the street, you know, is the best
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combatant for that sort of issue, having additional full time residents advocates in the village because they live there, um, is what's going to move the needle on that issue. This sort of development in cities and in downtowns in particular is sustainable environmentally, again, efficient use of resources, uh, but also economically
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ensures vibrancy into the future. And, you know,
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outlined, it's well-being.
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managed growth as well. Uh, and that's because you're choosing specific sites that follow your master plan. You're executing the plan that's already been written. And those specific sites have the acreage needed to leverage this additional allowable density. And they're of no historical significance. Um, so really this just makes a lot of sense in so many ways. Not only that, the city is going to have a development agreement, uh, sort of authority over whatever gets done on these sites. So
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village is maintained, um, ‸ with the proposal, uh, as it sits today. So this just makes sense in so many ways, not only for our development, but it paves the way for additional great mixed use developments. And that was the plan. So I hope it passes.
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Certainly different than how I normally speak at these things.
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Cole
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the village for close to 20 years. Um, you know, my, put my kids through St. Mark's.
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10 years plus collectively, you know, in the village and I can, you know, really say that I work here, live here, play here.
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Uh, I
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up with, you know, some concerns about the density. But after seeing what they're proposing, I really think this is the right project at the right time for the village. It extends the life of the village from up by the Osorio's old Ryan's Pizza area down further with a mixed use concept, yet still bringing the residents in. That I think would be a big benefit to all of our businesses in the area. Um,
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the architectural style or any of that type of stuff, we have an opportunity to voice our concerns. Um,
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to the extent that we have concerns
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and, you know, we can make sure that they accommodate the needs, um, and the character of the village through that process. And, um, you know,
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on behalf of the, you know, the business owners in the village, um, and move this on with a positive recommendation to the
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city
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council. Thank
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you.
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Pam.
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Shea.
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You know, I did that once in my career. ‸ Wasn't fine.
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I'm Pam. Shea.
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I also own from olives and grapes and tango and ties here in the village. Uh, as a merchant times three in the village, I'm very excited. Thank you.
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want to use those words. Co use to Cocoa village. It is something that we need and we needed for a long time. Um, this will be, uh, one of the best things that's happened. We'll have full time residents. As everybody has said, we will have these people out playing, walking, eating, exploring, enjoying the village, bringing their friends and families that one day hopefully
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have a hotel that, uh, they can stay there and enjoy ‸ our village.
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They needed to expand.
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And with that, it's a shame because we do miss the culture that was down in the village right now. So having this brought back to us is, uh, vital to all of us right now.
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COVID and everything we've been through, that says a lot for the city. Thank you very much. The city manager and everyone who's worked very hard with that, the economic development, Angela and everyone else to make sure that we're at full capacity. Uh, it says a lot. People come to the village just to, for our unique shopping and restaurants.
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the other areas around us, Titusville, Melbourne,
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If you go that way, you see all their developments constantly in the news. They've got high rises work use all this going on. And so it's time that,
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needs to be right here in the heart of us.
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that's an empty lot.
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could brings on a lot of challenges for those of us that are here every day, for those of us that live here and have to walk past it. So yes, look forward to it. So I can't say enough about them coming and being part of us. So let's move forward. Let's get those shovels going and let's get this bill. Thank you.
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Since this is an ordinance, I'm going to go open up to the public. So if there's anybody else that would like to speak on this, you're welcome to come up and speak. Seeing none, I will bring it back to the board. Go ahead, Allie.
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categories or colors or anything to that effect? Or are you taking that when a particular project gets presented to you? How's it handled?
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Um, that's an excellent question. And this slide here really represents the answer to that question. So that is all been established through our regulating plan, um, for the waterfront. And the beautiful thing about that, it is very specific to the type of category that they choose. So in this case, um, they move forward with a large mixed use commercial. It's spelled out in there, um, you know, what the scale should be, um, what the, um, what the various elements should be at the, at the street level. It should seem, you know, walkable. It should feel comfortable. It should kind of set all those parameters. And so the nice thing is, um, it does set it up to be very, and the research that went into this project, um, was based on everything that's existing in the village today. Right. So it's based on
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And, um, it doesn't get as specific about the type of colors and those type of things that is, or yeah, and materials.
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you, if you could read, I know it's super tiny, but it's even outlined in number three there. It talks about the aesthetic quality and character, the architectural design, the visual scale, those type of things. And so all of that will be looked at, um, by yourselves as this continues through the process.
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Mm-hmm. Yes. And input from the public?
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bank between the major highways, that really doesn't fit. And that's why I was concerned because for some reason that was not taken into consideration. That's an ultra modern building. And ‸ I'm just hoping that we are becoming more specific as far as
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And frankly, it looks like a mini Miami when I drive there.
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And I'm very, I think it's very important. And the board has had this discussion in the past.
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than what we have here on item number three, which could include materials, color schemes, things like that. Is that correct?
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That's correct. And I ‸ believe that, you know, ‸ the application that we will have before us
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lot of their ideas to us. And I believe you'll be pleased with that, right? But again, then we have the other property that, you know,
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not even in consideration today. And that is where ‸ staff has really set up the process to make sure that everybody can be involved in that, to make sure that we do get a quality product on every lot, that we can potentially see something like this.
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You mentioned something to try to keep the character of the buildings in the area similar to the average age of about 1950 and up.
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Exactly. And those were excluded. We
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we exactly and and and I think another thing that we really talked about as staff is take for instance 430 Brevard that the building that's on there is as the bank that maybe I don't know the history of this right it may have brought about these regulations that we have before you because once something like that goes in, everybody's like, we didn't want that, right, in the community. And so then we developed these regulations. So we also looked at that very specifically. We didn't want to put anything on your... Anything before your consideration that had any historic relevance to it.
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far as approving what's presented to us today and those are the three I see and I was just curious how does this affect two properties one is the five
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if there's a if that what would be required or is it anything at the time period that we're at now that we need to wait to even consider anything for that property that the city owns you
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that it it's a I guess the answer is a little complex and a little bit different because let me fast forward here So that is in a different category here on the regulating plan. So that has different regulations, right? It's kind of that orange color down at the bottom. So that, that will be, it's very site-specific and kind of outside of what we're discussing today in that sense. But
[01:00:52] Speaker 13
that's also something that could potentially be
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once it becomes
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yeah
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we're talking about here is uh uh Is that how it's being handled or they're doing it
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voluntarily?
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Anything in the Waterfront Overlay District must follow the guidelines. They probably, just every parcel and every building has a chance to fall under a different category, and then they have particular um bulk regulation, architectural guidelines for those types of buildings. Like there's an apartment building, there's a courtyard apartment, there's cottages, there's
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townhouses
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So based
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commercial ones too. You're talking
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about Starbucks, right? Yes.
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Yeah, so there's different regulations for that type of building, and that's, I think, a commercial. Well,
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they
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site that you're talking about is not being considered for this amendment.
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that
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so. That's right.
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Well, it is it doesn't, but it
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about the exterior design of being considered to make sure it blends with the rest of the village. And that's why I'm bringing it up, even though I know it's not part of it. I ‸ was wondering, I guess the process would be they're going to bring the elevation views. I haven't seen it
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any of that, but it
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depends on the type of application. If it's a large-scale site plan, then yes, it would become before you. But there are some applications that don't come before you. But no matter which type of application is, we are required to look at the regulating plan and apply those requirements to the application.
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still work on that.
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um They have, but again, you know, they have a separate development agreement. So it's really not um relevant to this discussion of this ordinance.
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Okay. Go ahead. Thanks.
[01:04:03] Speaker 2
uh The text amendment, as I understand this, it basically, if we um propose and adopt this, then
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that we didn't have before. And
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it basically reassures us that the infrastructure can support this text amendment. Okay. um I do have a question on uh the, something mentioned about the commercial mixed use large, eight stories. We're now five stories, right?
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But those are only on those certain properties. Yes. ‸ only if certain conditions are met. um ‸ One of those conditions conditions is that you are proposing a vertical mixed use project on that site. And that that site already has a commercial mixed use large building type allowed on that site.
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the regulating plan. For example, there is already a CL or commercial mixed use large building type allowed at the hotel site. Right. We
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they're you know, the other two sites that we're discussing, the
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will need to go through that process to request adding the CL mixed use building type on their property. So that would be a separate request that would come to you later. Okay. Right now we are just setting up the framework and the process for how that would go.
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Okay. The, um
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know, I've heard more positives than not. um and I think anything that opens up the possibilities of what
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can do a
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village is good. um concerns again with parking, concerns again with flat traffic flow. um those are the two main areas. So anyone
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Bank of American building, I know that that's going to be right at the top of our list and, in our review. So, but anyway, um thanks. That's all I need to say.
[01:06:55] Speaker 3
Does anybody else have any questions? All right. With that being said, I have a few.
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um
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you got to admit that it's quite a sticker shock going from 30 to 125. So anytime there's that significant change, it makes it makes you look a lot harder at it. um
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And if we're looking at 243 units for that, I'm just looking at 430 Brevard. And if
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don't, if we have eight stories and the bottom is commercial, it, like you said, it's only 1.95 acres that 125 units per acre just seems a lot
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I was, but what size of the unit can you have with 243 units? And maybe the uh framework can answer some of these questions for me.
[01:07:51] Speaker 6
Sure. Hi again. Parking for our development will be integral to the building. So there'll be a structured parking garage within that two acres that supports both the residential ‸ and the commercial and retail as well as some guest parking. It'll be completely concealed by the apartments. uh Really, you'll only see a little bit of it at the vehicular access from church. So the sort of parking required to support the developments that we're talking about at this density, it can be done, you know, well, um and visually appealing in a concealed way. You know, we do it all the time.
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Okay. And what
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i And we're speaking, when we're talking about units, we're talking about living spaces, correct? We're not talking about the commercial site commercial being part of those units. That's
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right. Okay. so So
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what size units are we going to have there projected? Yeah.
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In our case, it's going to be any anything from studios to three bedrooms in townhomes.
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Okay.
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And townhomes, really. So
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what right now, what is our current height regulation for that piece of property? with the commercial Currently, if someone wanted to pull an application for that, what
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your building within on that chart. Give
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me the highest one that they could possibly do.
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Eight.
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Eight. So we, they. no
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oh Chris is correcting me. Sorry.
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‸ not currently. So, because again, it's, it's the CL. um You can see that the commercial mixed use large building there, it has an open circle. So it's only allowed where indicated on the regulating plan. Right now, the property doesn't have that CL designation. So currently the the um the largest would be
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medium building, which I believe is five stories. It's
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five? Thank you.
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Yeah. Okay.
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all approvals, theoretically,
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because we have a number of approvals, is likely going to be late this year, ‸ early next, for start of construction.
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That seems very ambitious. I've been on the board many years. When we give approvals, if one of the provisions where you must start within 12 months,
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‸ And we've heard this many times. It's not a criticism of your company. But there
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do within some reasonable time frame
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okay All
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can say is, I want to move as fast as you want to move. badly I mean, ‸ we've, I
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mean, we're building a hotel, but the hotel probably, I'm being critical. Okay. The hotel probably could have been up and operating by now. But the city points at the developer, the developer points at the city, and we all pointed each other. And little actually gets done. ‸ I
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understand, you know, we've got, we've got a number of uh developments all over the state. uh ‸ multi-family and mixed uses all that we do. uh We've got serious apartments under construction now in
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And I was
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last year, you know, paving the way to make that one happen. ‸ so we do make good on our commitments. time frames do shift, but we want to make this development happen and we want to do it urgently, you know, because opportunities have a way of disappearing.
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to
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we do too
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Do you have anything that's similar that in this area that that would be compared to this that we could look at that have a good idea, a comparison? ‸ a
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similar development. I mentioned Cirrus in coco
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is under construction now.
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got a number of developments that we can point to that are on the order of this density and have really benefited the downtowns um where they've been constructed. so Yes.
[01:13:10] Speaker 3
Okay. um i'm I'm done for now. Marilyn?
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No, I just want to make sure you finished your thoughts. um
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Alec, do you ‸ have
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something else?
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where are you building right now
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it's the luxury apartments that you are building right on 520.
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that's right
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those i can't remember 280.
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but it's totally different design than what you're going to bring forward here. okay This
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kind of thing, right? okay
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this is
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This is structure part right yeah Do
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night's meeting when you presented uh information about your project, and the council uh is in a negotiating stage with
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one thing that was brought up by many, many people, of course, was parking. And if you all remember, when we had the hotel
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spaces for public parking. And I feel that we
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to keep requiring that of projects like this to where we have multiple pocket parking throughout the village. because we used to talk about multi-parking garage and i don't care where you put it it's always going to be too far for
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pocket parking throughout the village that
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super city manager got started with ‸ other areas of the streets that are real wide he found extra parking there so it's you don't see it being built but that's on the plans that
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one of the negotiation things that i'm going to be very uh is
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Yeah. But the board understood. I think parking issues and traffic flow are going to be key. Are you saying that when you review Framework's proposal that
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I think that that should be considered like it was for the other project with the hotel.
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Well, sharpen your pencils,
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we have no more discussion, I'll entertain a motion.
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Motion by Alec and a second by Michael. All in favor?
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All opposed? Motion carries unanimous.
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Next item.
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All right. So the next item.
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The next, we have, the next two items go together in the sense that the first is a preliminary subdivision, and the second is a site plan that complements that preliminary subdivision. I'm sure if you read the staff reports are both very similar. It will take two motions. Um, the preliminary, um, subdivision, you will be referring to city council. The site plan will end with you, uh, whether it's approved or denied, um, tonight. So that is the difference between the two and ‸ the reason why we do need the two separate motions. So the first is, um, is for a, thank you. The first item is a preliminary subdivision for Riverwalk. Um, which,
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property owner desires to develop the existing vacant site as a single family subdivision containing 25 single family residential lots. And the applicant for this is BSE consultants, and they are doing this on behalf of the property owner, Flamingo land company. And again, as I mentioned, it's for a single family subdivision with 25 lots, approximately 2.2 units per acre.
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CN neighborhood commercial. The property is located between us one and the Indian river drive. And the, it would receive access only off of North Indian river drive. It will not be accessing anything off of us one. The,
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And at this point, um, staff has found that they comply with the city codes for such a development. The opinion of title was also reviewed by our city attorney and has been approved. Um, there, as you saw in ‸ the conditions of, of recommending approval, there are, um, some hardwood trees on the property.
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The, um, with
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um, in your staff report. In
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to the minimum lot area, ‸ 7,500, um, lot coverage, 30%. We went through the setbacks and the current, um, subdivision layout does meet all of those requirements, um, for those zoning bulk regulations. And then maybe a little bit more detail too, in regards to the landscape, um, and the conditions that were listed. There is a 30 inch tree, um, on the site that does need, um, to come down. But fortunately we have our landscape code that, uh, they will be replacing that with multiple six inch trees.
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the site. And so that is a nice thing they are following our, our landscape code in that respect to look at the approval of something like this. We also look at the consistency with the comprehensive plan policies and objectives. It meets several of those, um, under the future land use element, under the housing element, uh, the coastal management element. And then of course, um, we look at concurrent, the concurrency, um, so similar to the last application. Can this land and the lots that are proposed, um, withstand the level of service, um, that is required, um, to have residences on those as far as wastewater is concerned, stormwater, um, the potable water and solid waste. All of those have been, um, looked at by the varying departments within the city and found that this, um, site can, um, function properly, um, and not put a strain on the city services for those items. The roadways were looked at and, um, the 25 units would generate 238 total trips a day. Obviously those trips are spread out throughout the day.
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Um,
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city does have, um, considerable park, park property per resident. So it looks at meeting that item, um, for the schools. Um, this did go through the school capacity ‸ availability determination letter, um, which the school district provides to us and they have projected sufficient capacity at every school level, um, for this proposed river walk development. Having said that staff is recommending, um,
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that you recommend approval to city council of the preliminary subdivision, um, with the three conditions set forth in your staff report. The large, the
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site plan shall not be effective until and unless the preliminary subdivision has been approved by city council and that the 30 inch DBH Oak removed requires replacement trees at six inch DBH. For that particular tree. So there'll be multiple ones that must,
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E.
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All right. We have a couple of cards.
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Mary.
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Good evening. ‸ Is this working? Yeah. Okay. I'm
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I have three concerns with this project. And first,
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according to the, um, plan, there's only a five foot separation between the lot lines of lots
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backyards basically next to us one. And to me, that's, uh, rather shocking. And I would not want to live in
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house on one of those lots. Um, and as explained, it turns out that that part of the subdivision does have a, uh, future land use and zoning of neighborhood commercial according to city maps. Um, did the code really intend that properties along a busy highway that are zoned neighborhood commercial, but turned into residential lots less than a fifth of an acre in size should only have a five foot buffer from the residential lot line. And my second concern is with the trees document, the documentation for the future.
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report next time. I will. Um, I see though, in your
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that, um, site plans, uh, subdivision, subdivision plants, the site plans are supposed to have a tree removal and or landscaping, uh, land clearing application at the time.
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could get online, which was my general approach. Um, and so hopefully I can get ahold of those.
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also I,
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didn't see a tree survey with your, um, documentation online.
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you know, that, uh, with their documentation. So I took a look at that and I realized that the trees on this property are not as valuable as on many properties, but since there are other nearby
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properties with very valuable trees, um, I hope that you'll be able to,
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to give due consideration to the protection of trees, um, during the subdivision review. Um, finally, I'm concerned about how the property owners on Indian River drive feel about the new road access for the subdivision. The proposed access road appears quite close to the house on Indian River drive to the south. So thank you for considering my concerns
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found online on the trees and the access road onto Indian River drive.
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Thank you. Ken Ludwa.
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We are the applicants engineer and surveyor and, um, Angela made a, actually presented everything, pretty much everything I was going to say. Um,
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uh, we have worked with staff on, uh, making sure that the tree survey meets city requirements as well as the landscape plan to, to provide replacement trees. Um, uh, with regard to the replacement trees for that, uh, for that 30 inch oak, we would replace it with, uh, with oaks as well. So, um, that, that is the plan.
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Did you say, did you say
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that's the diameter of the tree. I saw that too and I
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didn't know.
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Angela, because, you know, the minute I hear trees, you know, I ‸ get all worked up and it's common knowledge
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the city. ‸ They even call me tree. Thank you. And I'm glad to hear that.
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uh, there, there will be a, uh,
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With, uh, and the plans include, uh, uh,
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cross section that shows that there will be ‸ room, uh, along the sidewalk so that there's clearance between the sidewalk and the fence as well. So, um, the landscaping along the,
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So that's going to create a nice
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Um, I, I think the only other thing I wanted to point out is that stormwater will be 100% handled on site. So we, it's, it's really good, uh, really good soils there,
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There's no discharge off site there. So that's good for the infrastructure in the area. It's good for the lagoon. Um, it, it, you know, kind of helps, uh, helps us to not have to worry about how, you know, where we're connecting with regard to stormwater. Uh, the, uh, as far as utilities, uh, we're connecting, um, to,
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drive. Uh, that loops, that loops the system. Anytime you're looping the system that improves, uh, you know, it's good for, it's good for our site, but it's also good for the overall system as well. And we're connecting to a, uh, to
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an extended line on, uh, Indian river drive as well.
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that's, um, um,
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gravity sewer. So any, uh, if there's any questions, I'd be happy to answer. Thanks. Thank you.
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Oh, just one sec. Kristen, do we have to open this to the public since it's not an
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do. Okay. I'd like to open up it to the public. If anybody would like to speak on this. Hearing none, we'll bring it back to the board.
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Yes.
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To separate your project.
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the south line the same way?
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basically, uh, separates the existing residential units around your project with the fencing and it gives you a price.
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Right. Right. I just remembered one thing I wanted to, to ask, uh, with regard to the living shoreline and the staff report, I noticed it said it wouldn't preclude potential for a dock there. And I want to, I, I would like to make sure that if, you know, as far as the conditions that, that are stated that, that, that be made clear, I guess, just, you know, we're, we're, we're okay with the
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that it's clear for documentation purposes that it wouldn't preclude, you know, future, uh, construction of a dock. That's all.
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mean, the, sorry, the, um, the board could consider an amended condition. So you could basically have number three read as it currently does. And then at the end, you know, comma, which shall not preclude, um, construction of a dock.
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What is, what does code say about that? As it, as it relates to right now, are they allowed to have a dock?
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I would be fine if it said as allowed by code or something like that too, you know, so.
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Yeah. Okay.
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Again, I noticed in the staff report, it said, uh, without the limitation of cutting off the development's access. Well, if it's in the
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code and we're gonna, we're kind of saying this, we're saying it over again.
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If it's, it's allowed in the code, then. Then we shouldn't change any of it. Just keep it as it
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Okay. I'm okay. I just wouldn't want to, um, do something that went against the code. Yeah, I understand. On, on this phase. Marilyn?
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Yeah. Um, I, I was looking at this. Well, first of all, let's go back to the fence. Is there,
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natural trees or brush?
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the
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The trees. Okay. Yeah.
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Yeah. The,
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site will be somewhat elevated
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for the, um, the sake of the homeowners, uh,
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Um, yeah.
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Okay. For, for noise reduction.
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I'm looking here and how far back does the, it doesn't look like the houses that you're intending to build are within a flood zone. Is that correct?
[01:34:03] Speaker 14 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
That is correct. Yeah. This is, this is actually good. This is, this is an odd situation for anything in Brevard County here. Uh, there's actually a little bit of a hill here
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And so this is,
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yeah, well out of the, out of the flood zone.
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and I had heard that the butter that owns that big piece of property right there by the river. Is not in opposition to this project. Um, is he here, sir? Is that right? Okay. Okay. I don't know. Rumor mill, you know, um, okay. So that's not in the flood zone. It's not impacted by the hundred year flood. Correct. Okay.
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I understand it, the, the zoning, uh, adjacent to route one is the commercial neighborhood neighborhood commercial zone that if for instance, this development didn't get built, it could be possible that sometime in the ‸ future, somebody could come in and want to request something.
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purpose. Is, is that correct? Because it's commercial in the front and it it's adjoining. I mean, that is a possibility. So this, I guess this doesn't ‸ look so bad is the point. It could be a higher density proposal if this doesn't go through.
[01:35:40] Speaker 11
Okay. I don't want to say that that's true. I'm
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asking if that's true.
[01:35:47] Speaker 9 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Yeah. Technically they could divide it. Like now they're dividing it into the 25 lots. Right. Divide it say into two lots, one being a residential lot towards the water and one being a commercial
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So a hundred different options like that, but right. Okay.
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questions? I'll entertain a motion.
[01:36:16] Speaker 13
To prove as that requires.
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With the, with the addition. With
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At the end,
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think there's three
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limitations.
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Without
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by code.
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Thank you.
[01:36:39] Speaker 2
Is that correct? Okay.
[01:36:45] Speaker 3
Okay. We have a motion by Alec.
[01:36:48] Speaker 2
I second it.
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Second
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Any discussion? All in favor?
[01:36:55] Speaker 11
Aye.
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All opposed? Motion carries unanimous.
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Okay.
[01:37:04] Speaker 3
Last item.
[01:37:05] Speaker 7
I'm sorry. Oh.
[01:37:07] Speaker 1
Go ahead.
[01:37:11] Speaker 7
The motion that you just made, I just want to clarify, that was covering both the preliminary subdivision and the large scale site plan.
[01:37:21] Speaker 2
I thought those were two separate things.
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You're
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doing them separate. Okay. Yes. Sorry. I apologize.
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sorry.
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It's confusing.
[01:37:36] Speaker 9
Okay. So this application, our last one here, is then requesting approval of Riverwalk large-scale site plan consistent with Appendix A zoning, Article 3, Section 1D to construct a new 25-lot single family subdivision and stormwater improvements on roughly 11.35 acres. And the
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And
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And ‸ this one you do have final authority on. So the recommendation, the recommended motion should look at considering the first item, which is that should you recommend approval that the plan would not become effective until the preliminary subdivision has been reviewed by City ‸ Council or approved by City Council. And then,
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course, our oak tree comment and then our enhancement to the design and installing of the living shoreline.
[01:38:51] Speaker 2
Okay. Does that require that last motion,
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regarding the dock?
[01:38:58] Speaker 9
Yeah. I would say you'd want to amend and include that also.
[01:39:02] Speaker 3
First of all, we'll open it up to the public. Anybody like to speak on this? Seeing none, I'll close it and bring it back to the board.
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Does
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the board have any questions? No questions? I'll entertain a motion.
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I recommend that the board approve the large-scale site plan per the recommendations of staff, with the addition to point three, of which shall not preclude a construction of a dock as allowed by code.
[01:39:40] Speaker 3
We have a motion. Do we have a second?
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have a second. Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, say aye. Aye. All opposed? Motion carries. Did
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I did.
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‸ Letter E, introduction of a visionary plan.
[01:40:29] Speaker 9 + overlapping voice
All right. So, the visionary plan is the, you all heard the car wash item before you.
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is the city's vision at the corner of US 1 and 520. And so, based on staff becoming aware that the future land use designation does not, the zone does not meet the future land use designation, ‸ we want to take a very close look at that. And so, we are required by state statute to put together a schedule at which we will look at the vision for that corner and for other properties within the future land use mixed use category that currently have zones that don't match the future land use mixed use zoning category. And so, we're going to do that in several different sessions and ‸ have a few different meetings. We believe right now that we'd like to have one of the meetings either right before or right after next month's meeting, your meeting next month.
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Civic Center. ‸ We're really kind of looking at what our possibilities are for availability of buildings so that we do get a mix. And we'll have a mix of time for those meetings. And as part of that visioning process, we're working out how we're going to handle it. But we're basically going to give you visual aids of the different uses that are currently allowed and not allowed in that area. And ask for your basically, you know, vote for which ‸ use you see as a better fit for that corner.
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a good idea of how we want to move forward ‸ with it and what we want to bring back to you. So, tonight really is just an announcement that you'll be obviously notified of those meetings coming up.
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public meetings will be publicly notified, but we will make sure that you are invited to those meetings and that we also obtain your opinion as what ‸ your vision is. That's great. ‸ Yeah, really.
[01:42:51] Speaker 13
I do have a question since you mentioned
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The car wash that we did not support is what we're talking about. And we're talking about looking at that property for what uses that the public would be interested in. With that subject already brought up, I'd like to, I'm curious, did they consider other sites
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idea ‸ that I presented was on
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Did they even consider that or have they just decided not
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I believe they're regrouping and we'll look at coming back to us. But right now ‸ I would just say they're regrouping. That's
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good to hear.
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The CRA for the diamond square?
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There's
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it. Well, it's a different CRA.
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But it's still Coco.
[01:44:12] Speaker 13
It's still Coco and it's in addition to the CRA downtown Cocoa Village as well as other public members that live near that project.
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‸ Yeah,
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intersection is is part of the boundary for both the
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CRA.
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It's
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we say no and they say yes, then what?
[01:44:38] Speaker 9
Oh, it'll be, the meetings will be the community at large. And, um, so the presentation will go through the community at large to get the recommendation. To staff to figure out how to make an amendment to whether it's our comprehensive plan, whether it's our zoning code. Um, once that recommendation, um, is put together, it will come before you. And so as the planning and zoning board, you would have the ability to recommend to city council, um, how that is structured. Yeah. And so that is the role of, of you as the planning and zoning board.
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Let
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the purpose of the meetings is to try to blend the ideas with everybody to where the majority supports an idea on both areas. That's
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Understood.
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But
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Right. But
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whatever they say doesn't matter.
[01:46:01] Speaker 9
No, because they have, they have a chance to influence you and they have a chance to influence city council.
[01:46:06] Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah. And what exactly, I can't remember. Is that mixed use commercial? The neighborhood, uh,
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neighborhood mixed use commercial. Is that what it
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is? It
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And, and the whole point of the car wash is that was a single commercial ‸ use as opposed to mixed use, which would bring value to let's say diamond square. Yes.
[01:46:36] Speaker 9
I, I don't want to answer. Oh, I need those questions, but let
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me just say this,
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that, um, you can consider a single use in the future land use of mixed use. Sure.
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Um, we can discuss it at the meeting. It's fine. I just was curious. Okay. Yep.
[01:47:05] Speaker 7
I, I guess, I mean, the issue ‸ in that particular case was that the car, the proposed, specific proposed use of a carwash was not permitted in the zoning district that they were in. Right. And they had,
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So there
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Um, other business tree board, you got anything new on the tree board?
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um, they had the, uh, police chief, um,
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co-imposement and city councilmen come walking through the neighborhood and
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And I thought the city out there made this big decidedly for a tree.
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Wow. Very good.
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removed,
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are we
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think he's done. Go ahead.
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uh, I was curious about, and using one example that sort of bothers me.
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recent, for a matter of about three weeks ago or so, you all might have seen something in the paper, uh, where there was a problem with noise, uh, ordinance, uh,
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and things like that. But the, the complaints that were made, uh, and it's unfortunate, but the way that retaliated, I guess I could say that, was the building was painted horrendously. Uh,
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I really, I can't believe that it was that easy to repaint the building like it was that just sticks out badly. And I just wanted to bring that to your attention because that's something that I feel that we, as a board, have talked about, uh, exterior design ideas. And now it's become even, I think, more necessary to prevent what happened. I
[01:50:26] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
don't know what happened and where.
[01:50:28] Speaker 13
Well, I can be more specific, I guess, later after the meeting, uh, and mention it to Angela. But I think now it's even more important.
[01:50:37] Speaker 1
What do you think we
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Well,
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across the street from Travis Hart. So, are you all familiar with the colors that's put on it? The bakery. All right. So,
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you have
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the bakery.
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really start being more specific on exterior designs. And that might, may include color schemes in the downhunter. So,
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I don't know if I have support with it or not. But that's something I thought it was, I was very concerned about it. And I think it's important that the board and the staff, uh, recognize this issue.
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I want
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to bring up
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about this subject.
[01:51:37] Speaker 15
I mean, are you, I mean, we can just go back to the old industrial factory style for everybody.
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Uh,
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‸ but
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I, I really think that we need to spend serious time on it now. We, we can't put it under the rug anymore. I mean, it's getting to the point now, it's, it's potentially could be painful. Uh, the other thing, and I don't know how many people on the board had the time to check out our fireworks display. And I don't know when it would be a good time to bring this up. But because of the items that this board is presented and it involves the city, the development, the aesthetics and all that, I think it's appropriate to bring the next subject up, which is about the fireworks. Um,
[01:52:22] Speaker 2
we
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don't have anything to do
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with the fireworks as a plan.
[01:52:26] Speaker 13 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
‸ Not yet. That's why I want to finish on the same. I think it's important that the firework displays should not be, they should be at the
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the
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caliber that will entice people to want to continue to come because in the past, the fireworks were beautifully done. And the one that was done lately was less than half equal to what the city has been known for. And we have almost 16, 15,000 people coming to the village to see the fireworks. And after the recent one we just had, we might
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want to come. Uh, so that's something that I wanted to share with the board like I did with ‸ the,
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back the tree ordinance and things like that. I think it's important because it involves aesthetics to the downtown area and Cocoa to help it prosper. And I think that might be something that maybe we should look into. I don't know how the rest of the board feels about it. But the fireworks were less than. As a matter of fact,
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we could do that too. It might have been a lack of funding. It could have been a I
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don't think it's
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But the thing is, it's important
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that
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any way, because we became known for that. And
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then keep spending less and less.
[01:54:04] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
‸ I agree with you in one respect. We watch from our balcony, ‸ where we are. We sit there and look at it.
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But I don't think
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don't think this is ‸ underneath our purview at this point.
[01:54:20] Speaker 13 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I'd like it for open discussion. And I'm glad you mentioned that it was less than normal.
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But it's not this board that's going to resolve it.
[01:54:27] Speaker 13 + overlapping voice
I realize that. But you've got to start somewhere, you know? So I decided to do that here and at least mention it to the staff so they can look into it, that there is a concern about it. And now it's obvious it's not just myself. I mean, I
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display of fireworks in the city. And people were joking about it.
[01:54:57] Speaker 9
Yeah. I agree.
[01:54:58] Speaker 13
You saw that too? Yes. Thank you. I
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So I feel that this is important. And please, if it's possible, that maybe when you have staff meetings that that might need to be addressed, I am prepared to bring it before the council as well
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you've got to start somewhere. And
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And then I put it to the city council and we know the rest of the story. So I'm glad this board felt that that was important because then I can state that there was concerns on the board as well. It's not strictly just my wild idea.
[01:55:37] Speaker 15
I just have a quick question for you on that. I understand the fireworks and stuff. As of right now, there's not in any of our concern as far as the board goes. And I understand that you want to open it up to the city and have us, I guess, start regulating that. ‸ Now, if we do that with the fireworks, are you trying to impose that we also do other events? Because, I mean, if it's just strictly the fireworks display, which I agree were rather disappointing.
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But
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I'm not so sure if that would be more of a board regulation thing, whereas it would be more of like go before City Council and request either a bigger budget or a special planning committee.
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Correct. I understand. I
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did when the Tree USA was reactivated. I was able to state that I had support. And at that time, it was unanimous with this board. They all agreed about the Tree USA designation being eliminated ‸ wanting it back. So I'm basically doing the same thing.
[01:56:45] Speaker 2 · Machine re-recognized
So
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we were the Tree Board.
[01:56:47] Speaker 13 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Well, we are the fireworks. Yeah, but the Tree Board, if you remember, it was never put on the agenda for discussion. It never was involved if there was a tree removed, whether it should be a replacement one for them. I mean, I can go on and on and I don't want to waste everybody's time. But
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I had the support of the Planning and Zoning Board. And I know it's not unanimous of only when we heard before, but at least it makes a statement that this is an important issue. I'm not going to get
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involved with it. And that's why I
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wanted, as I was going to say, that's why I wanted to present it here.
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No, Planning Board. I
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The issue was I wanted to bring it up. Thank you for this.
[01:57:41] Speaker 3
Anybody else have anything to discuss?
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to adjourn. Second. Second. Second. All in favor, say aye.
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all right
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Motion carries.
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Good job, Angela.
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Good
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job, Russ.
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Yeah,
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I'm going to be over a scalping on the West Coast. Yeah.
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Yes. Okay, check with her. Yeah, I told her, ‸ let her know. That's why it's good to coordinate. Yes. So she's prepared.
[01:58:21] Speaker 9 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Good night. Thank you guys.
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okay. Doing well.
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Everything's good. And
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Allowed
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You
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have something to sign. Change the
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minutes.
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Yeah,
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not, ‸ we don't have a minute for you.
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‸ Yeah. Okay, okay, yeah, thanks for asking. All
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right.
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Okay. Okay. Actually, the recitation. Thank
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Well, like she said, it
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was children looking at
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what properties
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were kind of primed for redevelopment. And what site, yes, it would be a good fit for it to have that increased density. And they picked sites that were specifically referenced for, you know, wanting redevelopment in the, um, sorry, in
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So there was a reason for choosing those, but no, there's nothing pending on that site. We are just, ‸ okay. I
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know if you know.
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can share it. I mean, there's, it's public, it's public information. Um, you know, they're publicly, the, um, I mean, the ordinance was advertised in the newspaper and everything. Yeah. Oh, no,
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that's right then.
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Um, so I
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certainly
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advertised in the paper, which is what was required.
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Thank you.

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