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City Council

City Council Regular Meeting

Date
2024-07-23
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #641
Built from the City's minutes records — no AI-written text Briefing final

The City's record

What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (802_CC_Reg_Minutes_07_23_2024.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Matthew Barringer, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines.)
  • Absences: the minutes print an “ABSENT” heading with no names under it.
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Anthony A. Garganese (City Attorney), Stockton Whitten (City Manager), Monica Arsenault (City Clerk), Abigail Morgan (Public Works Director), Rebecca Bowman (Finance Director), Lora Howell (Deputy Finance Director), Dara Hennessey (Deputy Fire Chief), Charlene Neuterman (Community Services Director), Evander Collier IV (Police Chief), Jack Walsh (Utilities Director), Tammy Gemmati (Administrative Services Director), Corbin Gilbert (Help Desk Support Tech), Alyssa Backer (HR Coordinator)
  • Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Matthew Barringer, Mike Blake (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (18)

  • Il. Approval of Agenda and Minutes: Ue Agenda: Regular Meeting of July 23, 2024. (24-411) — to approve the agenda for the Regular meeting of July 23, 2024 with an amendment to add Council Business VII.5, naming the Cocoa Conservation Hiking Trail after Gregg Stoll, City Business VIII.4, to negotiate a multi-year contract with Truist Bank, and City Business VIII.5, to apply for two water … (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Matthew Barringer, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
  • to approve j the minutes for the Regular City Council meetings of May 14, 2024 and May 28, 2024 as written (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Matthew Barringer, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
  • to approve the Consent agenda (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Matthew Barringer, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 5
  • Approve the first reading of Ordinance 10-2024 providing for the Cocoa Ad Valorem Tax Abatement Program Extension to appear on the referendu — to approve Ordinance 10-2024 on First Reading (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Matthew Barringer, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 6
  • to approve Ordinance 07-2024 on Second and Final Reading (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Matthew Barringer, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 7
  • 3. Request to Postpone Consideration of a Zoning Map Amendment consistent with Appendix A, Zoning, Article XXI, to change the Zoning Map des — to postpone the item to the October 8, 2024 Regular City Council meeting at 6pm at Cocoa City Hall (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Matthew Barringer, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 7
  • 1. Provide direction on the District 4 Brevard County Parks and Recreation Interlocal Agreement. (24-325) — to approve the District 4 Brevard County Parks and Recreation Interlocal Agreement (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Matthew Barringer); CARRIED 4-1; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Matthew Barringer, Lorraine Koss; nays: Alex Goins — the City's minutes, p. 9
  • Brightline Update. (24-416) — to move forward with the conceptual plan (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Matthew Barringer, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 10
  • to approve the travel of City Manager Whitten and Mayor Blake to go to Washington D.C. on July 30" and 31° to advocate for grant funding (the minutes print this motion after the heading “Brightline Update. (24-416)”; the motion's own words do not name that item) (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Matthew Barringer, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 10
  • Approve Resolution No. 2024-069 recognizing the resignation of Councilman Matthew Barringer and declaring a vacancy in Seat 3 of the City Co — to approve Resolution No. 2024-069 recognizing the resignation of Councilman Matthew Barringer and declaring a vacancy in Seat 3 of the City Council effective July 31, 2024 and to select August 27" as the Council meeting date to appoint a replacement to fulfill Councilmember Barringer’s remaining term (moved by Matthew Barringer, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Matthew Barringer, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 12
  • 4. Authorize the City Manager to publish RFP# P24-XX-COC, in accordance with the Community Redevelopment Act of 1969, to solicit proposals f — to authorize the City Manager to publish RFP# P24-XX-COC, in accordance with the Community Redevelopment Act of 1969, to solicit proposals for the purchase and redevelopment of real property currently owned by the City of Cocoa, and located at 915 Florida Avenue within the Cocoa Redevelopment Area (moved by Matthew Barringer, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Matthew Barringer, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 12 (the minutes' text and the printed ballot disagree about whether a member voted on this motion) The minutes' text and the printed ballot disagree about whether Mike Blake voted on this motion. The minutes' text reads: “Mayor Blake recused himself from this item.” (from the scanned minutes). The printed ballot lists Mike Blake among the ayes: Blake, Hearn, Barringer, Goins, Koss. This site does not choose between the two. Mike Blake's ballot on this motion is not counted as an aye, a nay or a recusal.
  • 5. Approve Resolution 2024-070 renaming the Cocoa Conservation Area Hiking Trail to Gregg Stoll Conservation Area Hiking Trail. (24-418) — to approve Resolution 2024-070 renaming the Cocoa Conservation Area Hiking Trail to the Gregg Stoll Conservation Area Hiking Trail (moved by Matthew Barringer, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Matthew Barringer, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 13
  • Vill. City Business: fl, Council Approval of the First Amendment to Interlocal Agreement between the City of Cocoa and the City of Rockledge — to approve the item (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Matthew Barringer, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 13
  • 2. Approve an Agreement for Water Meter and Meter Reading Equipment Purchases with Ferguson Enterprises LLC., Authorize the City Manager to — to approve the item (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Matthew Barringer, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 14
  • Approve Resolution No. 2024-063, Establishing the Rolled-Back Rate, approve a Proposed Millage Rate for the Purposes of Notification to the — to approve Resolution No. 2024-063, Establishing the Rolled-Back Rate of 6.3761, approve a Proposed Millage Rate of 6.9532 and for the first Public Hearing to consider the FY2025 Budget to be held on Tuesday, September 3" at 6:00pm at Cocoa City Hall (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Matthew Barringer, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 14
  • 4. Approve the City Manager to negotiate a multi-year contract for banking services with Truist Bank piggy-backing off the Brevard County Cl — to approve the item (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Matthew Barringer, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 15
  • to extend the Council meeting for thirty minutes (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Matthew Barringer); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Matthew Barringer, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 16
  • to adjourn the Regular meeting of July 23, 2024 (moved by Matthew Barringer, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Matthew Barringer, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 18

Motions not adopted (2)

  • to direct staff to move forward with advanced septic across the BMAP area (moved by Matthew Barringer, seconded by Alex Goins); DIED 2-2; ayes: Matthew Barringer, Alex Goins; nays: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn — the City's minutes, p. 16
  • to go out for grants to try and secure funding for either project (moved by Lavander Hearn, seconded by Alex Goins); DIED 2-2; ayes: Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins; nays: Mike Blake, Matthew Barringer — the City's minutes, p. 16

Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)

  • $122,000 — Council: Consent agenda item 2, approved with the Consent agenda. “Approve a Resolution to Waive Competitive Bidding for the purchase of Six (6) j Police vehicles & associated equipment; Approve a Resolution Amending the FY- 2024 Budget, BAF#24-110-T1 (AFBP21 $122,000) and T2 (AR24PV $244,000).” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (802_CC_Reg_Minutes_07_23_2024.pdf, p. 5); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $244,000 — Council: Consent agenda item 2, approved with the Consent agenda. “Approve a Resolution to Waive Competitive Bidding for the purchase of Six (6) j Police vehicles & associated equipment; Approve a Resolution Amending the FY- 2024 Budget, BAF#24-110-T1 (AFBP21 $122,000) and T2 (AR24PV $244,000).” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (802_CC_Reg_Minutes_07_23_2024.pdf, p. 5); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $23,000 — Council: Consent agenda item 3, approved with the Consent agenda. “Authorize City Manager to execute a Change Order to PO # 81307 in the amount of $23,000 due to an increase in price of JET-VAC 900-12 Yard Truck Mounted Combination Sewer Jet Vacuum Sewer Cleaner.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (802_CC_Reg_Minutes_07_23_2024.pdf, p. 5); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $39,987 — Council: Consent agenda item 4, approved with the Consent agenda. “Approve a Resolution Amending FY- 2024 Budget, BAF#24-111-T transferring Funds through the reallocation of CSLFRF monies ($39,987) for purchase of a Hamm 40” Double Drum Road Roller Vibrator from Dobbs Equipment of Palm Bay Florida.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (802_CC_Reg_Minutes_07_23_2024.pdf, p. 5); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $276,000 — Council: Consent agenda item 7, approved with the Consent agenda. “Request approval of a multi-year contract for information technology critical infrastructure from 7/23/24 to 7/23/29 in the amount of $276,000 and approval of BAF # 24-112-T-IT-********** to provide adequate funding in FY24 for the contract costs.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (802_CC_Reg_Minutes_07_23_2024.pdf, p. 5); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $1,900,000 — Council: listed on an agenda item that an adopted motion approved as presented — authorized up to (a spending limit, not an amount spent). “Approve an Agreement for Water Meter and Meter Reading Equipment Purchases with Ferguson Enterprises LLC., Authorize the City Manager to approve Purchase Orders for Ferguson Enterprises LLC. for up to $1,900,000 and Request Council approval of a Resolution to Waive Competitive Bid with Ferguson Enterprises LLC for the purchase of Neptune water meters and other ancillary hardware required 1 to s” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (802_CC_Reg_Minutes_07_23_2024.pdf, p. 14); fiscal period not recorded)

Agenda (the City's wording)

The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (CC_Reg_Packet_07_23_2024), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.

Transcript Partial transcript

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That's what you get from a fire department.
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Alyssa's going first.
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up
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right
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when they start.
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July
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‸ 23rd.
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Do we have any tigers in the house?
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Do we have any tigers
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in the house?
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There's another question. Okay.
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Of the United States of America. And to the republic for which it stands. One nation. Under God. Indivisible. With liberty and justice for all.
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Please, ma'am. Please, sir. Remove the hats. Joe. Luca. And? That's it. Sandy. That's my student.
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sir.
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Heavenly Father, you fellows who
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joined. You are in presence for sure.
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That being said, let us go forth and show fruits of the spirit. A reminder to all of us that if you tell the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of
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you did for me. Amen. Let that be the humble guiding light that guides our decisions this evening.
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may
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come
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Yes, sir. Mayor Blake. Present, ma'am. Deputy Mayor Hearn.
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Present.
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Present.
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Councilmember Goins.
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Here.
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Councilmember Koss. Here. City Attorney Garganese. Here.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much, Madam Clerk. Arsenal. Proceeding on to item number
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make a motion to amend the agenda for
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2024.
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With an amendment to add council business number 7-5, naming the Cocoa Conservation Hiking Trail
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Second item, City Business Number 8-4, to negotiate a multi-year contract with Truist Bank.
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Chair would like to make a motion to amend that, and I need a second.
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Second.
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Okay, chair's going to call for portion. I want to thank everybody.
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faces here today.
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our
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2-2, minutes, regular meeting.
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No, she'll prove.
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‸ May 14, 2024, yes, sir. Regular City Council meeting minutes of May 28, 2024. We have a motion
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I'll second.
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All in favor by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Any nays? Ayes have it unanimous.
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Proceeding on to awards and presentations.
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Let's give our young men and young ladies a round of applause.
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you so that you are gainfully employed so that you're starting up
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a ‸ call for work and life
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and commitment and dedication.
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Okay, this is our ninth
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annual
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Cocoa Works Summer Youth Program. ‸ We're about to bring them up one by one for ‸ certificate.
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summer youth program. It's a five weeks paid internship where we hire them for the summer and they work in different departments throughout the city. So this year we had 13 students and we
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prioritized
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‸ I think one student this year snuck in for Merritt Island. So, okay. So, anyways, but Alyssa Backer, I want to thank her. She's in our human resources department. She was awesome at bringing this program, like, kind of, we really didn't know if we were going to have a program at the beginning of spring. And she was really just awesome at bringing it to life. So I just want to thank her. So thank you, Alyssa.
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So we have a couple representatives from CareerSource tonight.
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Okay. ‸ And Imani, I don't know if she's here. No? Okay. So, and they help with training. So the first couple days they do a training program with financial education and a couple other things to help them get ready for their employment here. And then, and then we bring them on board. So.
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Let's give them a round of applause.
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Okay.
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And Alyssa's going to help me read their names. And then they're, we're going to come up and we're going to do a group picture. So when you hear your name, please come up front.
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They're very nervous about this.
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Just follow Tammy.
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Okay.
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All right. So
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Human Resources Department.
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She was in our Code Enforcement.
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We have Madison Wilson, who was in our Finance Department.
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Daniel Bright,
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who was in our community center.
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Evan Bright, who was in our IT department.
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Joseph
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And last but not least,
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And we have Tykeria Davis, who was in our leisure services department. I'll take Steve's if you want.
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if
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you want to go in.
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We can take the pictures.
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Come
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on. It's imperative that we acknowledge our youth. Yes, ma'am. Because we know the flip side. Any brothers, sisters, families, come on, Ms. Wilson.
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So when he says come up, he means get in the picture. Okay.
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One second.
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Come on. Come on. Thank you.
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Come on. I'm opening.
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Well, that's lots of pictures.
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Come on. All
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right.
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Hey, there we go. There we go. I know.
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Are we all in,
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Ms. Samantha? I would, yes, ma'am.
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Okay.
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So everybody be patient. Ready? One, two, three.
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Okay.
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Hold on. Stay tight. Stay tight. Ready?
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One,
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two, three. Okay. ‸ One more or a few more.
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This
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is where we
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go.
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Amen. Okay. Is that everybody?
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They are today's success, but tomorrow's future.
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So
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We want to make sure that
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because we all need social security.
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Yeah.
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her do we have it in our possession
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no this was a and I just texted her the principal to see but I just realized she wasn't in the audience but I haven't heard
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okay
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thank
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you
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guys
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thank you I want to say thank you
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to share with everyone we gave out 1,656 backpacks to kids who needed them we did pack 2,500 and the remainder were distributed amongst 76 schools in our district so teachers will have them in their hands for the first day if kids come and are in need so thank you but the real reason I'm here today as Mayor Blake stated my name is Nina Moser and I'm the director of development at
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Brevard Schools Foundation thank
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you fills
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educational funding and opportunity gaps at our 84 public schools for some 75,000 students and 5,000 teachers by supporting innovation, engaging communities, and changing lives. I join you tonight
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member of our community
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education beyond high school the Jumpstart Scholarship Program was established to create and support life-changing scholarships for deserving students to help meet this need in our communities
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that can be used at any Florida public or private college or university or trade school
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new nearly a
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match. on behalf of Brevard Schools Foundation I would like
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this scholarship for a city resident And now for the exciting part. it's my honor to present this scholarship to Joshua Brown
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begun his studies at Stetson University with plans to pursue a business major and to quote his application as a high school senior with a passion for business administration my educational and career objectives are aligned with pursuing a degree in this field in college I aim to acquire a comprehensive understanding of various aspects of business including management finance marketing and entrepreneurship through rigorous coursework and practical experiences I aspire to develop strong analytical problem solving and leadership skills essential for success in the business world congratulations Joshua
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where's mom
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Mom's gonna ‸ have to put the phone down for a second and come join us. mom is Kathy Hamilton Brown assistant principal at Sun Tree Elementary School
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States Air Force.
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In the good book, it talks about training the child upright, and this is indicative of the Browns family legacy, living legacy. He has other siblings that participated in the military. Correct, ma'am? And sir?
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Yes.
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Okay, very good. So on
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we are extremely proud of this young man because he's worth the investment. Just like we invested in the younger group, now we're investing in the seasoned group, and I'm very proud of this young man. He's one of my outstanding great students. His mother and father did not play the radio, the tape player, none of that.
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Amen? All right, let's give him another round of applause.
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Three. All three can speak if you don't mind. You can let mom speak. Okay, here we go. She's never been
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Testing.
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the City of Cocoa Brevard School Foundation for giving my son this one-year prepaid
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scholarship. And he will he's the first recipient of it. So I hope this will you know be continued on. And son, I want you to know I am very proud of you. I love you. And make us proud in in college, in the Air
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one fan. We're the young one family We have your back. We have your back.
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okay anyone would like
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on. Excuse me, Josh.
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I just also want to thank you for help bringing that state championship back
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and then any of the council members. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
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uh My GPA in high school was a 3.9 i finished with a 3.9 gpa and also uh and also i did some talking around uh when I got to college. And
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it. Yes, ‸ That's
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That's the way.
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Excuse
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humble kid you see here is uh not so humble on the football field. um um He is a great athlete, but also a much better person. And so
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don't try to move in your dorm.
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That's that's probably the next thing you
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got to
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kick her out. yeah But but you know we all support you. So if you need anything from me and us or anybody,
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you're right there in d land It's not far away. So now you get to come
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yeah But congratulations. All
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right. Councilwoman
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I know how proud you are. And I'm sure you've really elevated him throughout his life. uh
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the first scholarship, I understand. This is going to be an annual event. So I'm really proud that we could do this partnership and that your son in particular yes
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yes is
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the recipient.
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Yes, thank you. All right. Let's give ‸ a round of
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now.
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a family, all I can say is thank you for literally being the model of what it is to be a family that can grow and call our our place home, uh really make the absolute benefits and find the achievement as a family, supporting each other where you can live and grow, go down the road, get a great education as well, whether it be here or whether it be a little bit further down the road. And
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security right back home. And so thank you for that.
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the playing field, his performance on the battlefield, but more so than anything else, his performance in the academic world. And when all three of those come together, we get an outstanding individual like Joshua Addington Brown. And I'm very proud of this, young man, because we know the flip side. So we should always celebrate and embrace the great positive things you are doing now, young man. But more to come. Amen?
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we have our sister city,
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Let's give her a round of applause.
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into existence.
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to come down? That's what he said.
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Let's come on back
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Thank you, Mayor Blake. I have a copy here. You have the original.
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Yes, ma'am.
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But I actually did my homework, went on your agenda today, made sure we were going to the right place at the right time, and
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printed up the letter. All
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right. Yeah.
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coming down now.
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This side. Thank you, sir.
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Yeah, our love for our sister city cannot be broken.
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Yes, face the nation. Yeah.
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Hey,
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welcome. Welcome, welcome. Come on. Come on. Front and center. Come on.
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Well, on behalf of the sister city program of Cocoa, Florida, and Beit Shemesh, Israel, we have a letter written and hand delivered from Beit Shemesh directly a couple of weeks ago.
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and we had a gathering with about 70 of us with Mayor Michael Blake and his beautiful sister, and we had an amazing time together. It was Jews, Christians, unbelievers, all faiths coming together to show support for the nation of Israel, and this country is the only democracy in the Middle East,
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them and their right to exist as a people. And the mayor of Beit Shemesh, his name is Shmuel Greenberg, and he sent a letter to our own mayor, Michael Blake, and so I can read this. It says, Dear Mr. Blake, I hope this letter finds you well. Allow me to introduce myself.
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newly elected mayor of Beit Shemesh. I am a former deputy mayor in Beit Shemesh and have always attributed great importance
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including the productive collaboration and mutual delegations that have taken place over the years. I am committed to continuing and strengthening this relationship during my term in office. As mayor, I believe that our connections are of great importance. They allow us to share ideas, host friendly delegations, and allow for more understanding. I am confident that the foreign relations department in our city,
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relationship forward. I look forward to many more years ahead of cooperation and to further strengthen the bond between our two cities. Also, I would love to have the opportunity in the current term to come
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see and examine additional ways to strengthen the alliance between the cities. Sincerely, Shmuel Greenberg, mayor of Beit Shemesh, Israel. All
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right. Thank you.
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never be broken. We will stand as Israel stands, so will the great USA.
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stand together because there's power in numbers. And at the end of the day, we're all God's children. Amen. I'm a firm believer in that. And I did have the
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Dead Sea and the Negev and the desert.
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But the beautiful thing about it, there was love and is love in the air. And that's what I felt. And I'll go back in a heartbeat because I believe in Israel and I believe in our sister city. And keeping that line of communication open. So we stand together. And I thank you all. Thank you very much.
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you. All right.
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What do you want from me? What would you like?
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just have you
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See everybody? No!
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Oh, okay. I'm always trying to hide. Perfect.
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Thank you so much. All right.
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Ready?
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Thank you.
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It's not always what you say, but how you say it. And I'm just asking that we just use a little common courtesy, because we all have a brain.
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And I respect that. Okay, so we will be seeing in this board. Make sure you have all your cards, ma'am and sirs.
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Yes.
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Evening, everybody. For the last 30 days, we have been on a campaign doing a Q&A with the voters. And we're using this sign here. We're asking the voters not to elect none of you again. ‸ We have ruled you as inhumane career politicians for the fact that you have no mercy and compassion for the homeless. I've been in here advocating for the homeless since March. And
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what the people are saying. They ask me, why do you think the city of Cocoa is not doing nothing but the homeless? The truth for them is they don't care. They got money to spend on the fish pond.
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‸ But we have no mercy and compassion for the homeless. So until the day of the election, we will be out with this
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the voters to get rid of every one of you.
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think at our last council meeting, I actually brought forth a plan that put the new requirements that are going to kick in for mandating a
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There's a big chunk of land over there.
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So I would just like to remind that there's
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So thank you. Thank
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very much, Councilman.
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sir. Next on the list will be Katie Delaney.
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Good evening, everybody. First, I
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And thank you for stepping up for your community. It takes a lot of strength to run for office and to serve your community. And so whether everybody always agrees or not, it takes a lot to serve your community. So thank you for that.
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Next,
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would like to speak about, back when I was here in March, I requested that the Council look into adding election information and the financials to the website so that it could be a little bit more transparent and easily accessible for the residents. So that they could kind of know what's going on, know what the process is, and just make that a little bit easier for people. And since I'm not able to be here for the whole meeting, I just would like ‸ to request that since we're so close to the next election, it would be great for the voters to have a say in who takes the seat that's going to be open. And
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Good evening, Council.
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One of the things that I do is I go around and I look at different practices that different cities have for their various things. I've commented here before. Tonight, I want to focus on local election information. So I'm aware that on the Supervisor of Elections website, voters can get some information about the local elections and who is in them.
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any of the counties. What I have found is that there are three races open. I have brought this to the city's attention. I have not
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I have a community newsletter, very glossy newsletter, does not mention the local elections and the three races open in which the announcement period goes through August 20th. So it's wide open right now, whereas many of the cities closed down their announcement period early.
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is wide open and yet you refuse to announce it. You also declined to put it in your monthly newsletter. You've declined to announce it on your Facebook page.
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The reason I can say that it's intentional is because I have written to the clerk. I have written to my councilman. I've written to
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sorry, the councilman and Mr. Witten on this. It has been brought up in March. So this is not an accident, in my opinion, that COCO declines to put local election information on the website. In contrast, the most transparent city that I have found so far is COCO Beach. Residents of COCO Beach can find the openings. They can find the financial reports on the candidates. They can find the forms. They can get well informed. So residents of COCO Beach have a lot more going for them in their information on elections than COCO does. So I would like to ask COCO to step it up and at least put out some Facebook announcements and press releases. COCO also has an excellent system of announcing meetings and notification system.
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Congratulations. Congratulations. For COCO to utilize the current mechanisms of getting information out to let voters know about the election.
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Boulevard project, which has been called the Zig Zag Maze. And which I know COCO is not responsible for the project.
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is an FDOT project. Nonetheless, the question that I have is a citizen who is witnessing 16-foot sidewalks, 16-foot wide sidewalks, who has seen the grass strips filled in between the sidewalk and the curb stop.
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How did that go for 30 seconds? It just seemed to skip right there. I am very
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My question is... I will end with this. My question is, what could have
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to call out and to drive down, and which
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What could have been done to help that project, and what could you guys have done?
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I'm going to address the Clear Lake. First of all, there were a series of public meetings for that project. And, well, actually, first of all, this is an area of regional concern because of the high fatalities, deaths that have taken place there. How many? Because...
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can't get informed on that.
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Because it is dangerous by design. People fly down that road and have always sped down that road, and pedestrians have no places to cross. This project still won't be done for another year, and I know it's very confusing, and ‸ the lines aren't painted on well, and I know you have to be very attentive when you drive down that road. But I'm hopeful that there was so much public input into this, and that the engineering studies are based on making it safer for all of us, so we don't suffer those fatalities, that a year from now, we're going to be a lot more pleased.
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And ‸ I know people are complaining. Believe me, I get the calls. So, and
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be people that will be angry for me just for supporting it. But we know from the data that there are things you can do to make a road safer, calmer. And this is what the design is based on. It might not be perfect, but it's going to save lives. I am confident about
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that. Thank you for your comments. Residents disagree with everything you just said, and
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Thank you.
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TPO. And we
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the secretary from District 5 there, John Tyler.
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Even just one is one too many.
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Okay. Proceeding on. I'm sorry. I have one more card.
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Would you please come forward? Surprise, surprise.
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Hi, good evening, everyone.
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Good evening.
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Over the last 12 years, I have never missed a
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It has been the Tuesday night scene in our home. It's always been an important thing for me that our children understand that ‸ the head of our household
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And that's, ‸ excuse me, because I may cry. I couldn't let this night go by without saying that. Over the years, ‸ of course, you know, with this position, there comes many, many things, good and bad. But all I can say is that every decision ever made by my husband, as I have watched him, for all these years, was made with a pure heart for the people that he serves. And all he ever wanted to do was to make the communities better for our children and for the people that live there. So, as, and I'm jumping ahead on the agenda, I think, but as he resigns, I just, I just needed to publicly say that.
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this for me, as I have a new opportunity in a new place. And we have children that need us in a different way now. So, that's it. Just again, with pure heart and pure intent, he's decided to support his wife and his children. And that, that takes a lot of courage in today's climate and today's culture. So, I just want to say thank you to you guys for giving him this opportunity again. Because it's truly his gift. As he serves, and ‸ I know that no matter where we are and what we do, he'll serve in some way. So, that's that. And as we, as, as you guys know, Councilman Berenger and I both work in education. So,
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and unfortunately, we leave this, this city and, and this place,
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really diving into education here. And I just want to leave you with this. I know that Dr. Rendell will come here and
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But to put that in perspective, that means that two-thirds of our students here don't read. Two-thirds of our
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have C schools.
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proficient to have a C school.
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I'm sorry, I'm going to finish up right now.
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drive past many schools to come to mine.
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Our kids here deserve better. So, I just ask you to hold those people accountable that we've elected in those places the same way that people come here and hold you guys accountable. Make them do it. Make them pay attention to the kids here. Because that's the answer for our city. So, thank you again.
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very much. This concludes this portion of delegations. We will proceed forward to consent agenda items for the
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Second.
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there's no problem or question, all in favor of saying aye. Aye.
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authorizing the city
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county florida
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for an election scheduled thereafter
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with the supervisor of elections providing for severability and an effective date this is first reading of this ordinance also a public hearing item as you indicated mayor since 1995
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that meet meet certain criteria that that authorization was granted by the voters of coco on several occasions even thereafter that authorization from the voters is set to expire ‸ in a year and this ordinance proposes to put the issue back out to the voters to ask whether they still want to allow the council to have that authority for another
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years be happy
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I was going to ask about the Walmart do we know what the the value of the whole abatement was the total value i'm sorry I did not see it in the materials
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I ‸ don't have it I don't have that information in front of me yeah
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I think it's I think it's generally 300 plus thousand a year. So if you just go five times, five times three, that's roughly the number somewhere between 1.6 and probably 1.9 million
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and the two million that we gave them the two million incentive, that was on top of that, right?
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a cash and cash incentive. Yes, ma'am.
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at the genesis of that. I was on your side um in the audience. Myself and one other person spoke against that. I had actually researched the three locations and was convinced that they were going to come here anyway, just because of the advantages of this particular location. Now having said that, sitting on this side and thinking about the different scenarios that can take place, this is a tool and one that we, it's up to us to use with discretion um and to research well um before considering it, because it is a substantial amount for a city that only, you know, still
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to be very, I'm really going to resist using it except when it really presents us with an advantage that we wouldn't have otherwise.
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is doing really well. The second example, they ended up moving, I believe, because they found another location more advantageous. But um again,
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sir, do other municipalities emulate this same, uh ‸ referendum, ‸ ordinance that we have
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uh the The county currently has
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off the top of my head, but I believe there are other cities in the county that actually have the tax abatement
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‸ City of Palm Bay does, city of Melbourne, I mean there's a number of cities that have the same type of program.
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Thank you very much, sir. uh
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sure I'm clarifying on this. This isn't a discussion on the value of tax abatement, not tax abatement, do tax abatement, don't do tax abatement. The, the, the question here is do we allow this to go to the ballot so people can choose and have a point on that? And that's, that's how I'm taking this. So it gives people the option to, to have that discussion.
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It'll obviously
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just like you did for item number seven dash one
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to speak on this topic but i have decided to after watching the county commission meeting this morning there was rigorous debate on the county commission meeting from
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of the ad valorem tax abatement and he brought up examples of how it is only it has only benefited the county by like 42 jobs was the information so they had a war of competing narratives where you had the experts on it they were saying that hey
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done all this good for the county and then you had commissioner tobias saying hey we've only had 42 jobs and really um challenging that narrative so i left it you know thinking that you know i'm uncertain i'm not supporting it or opposing it but it was helpful as a resident to see it debated as councilwoman costas did to say what are we ‸ really getting out of it and should we question this rather than just automatically putting it forward because voters aren't going to know i mean
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‸ thing like this this is going to how many people are really going to research it so i just would like to draw council's attention to the fact that it was heavily debated um it was disputed one of the members of the audience sandra sullivan also spoke out against it and it does lead one to questions of why are we so heavily supporting large business uh
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are they benefiting from this and the answer is really no it's it's really geared to large businesses and i think it's a good question to ask how much Walmart, how much did the companies that are listed on the narrative that's in the city documents, how much benefit did they have and to do some more analysis on it. So I can't solve that, but I would like to relay it for a council's benefit that it was just debated this morning at the commission, and
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Thank you.
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Okay. Anyone else? did you Did she submit a card? Because I just want to make
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Okay, thank you. um do we have Yes, sir. I'm gonna ‸ bring it back to council. Okay. um Seeing we have no more cars
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and return to the council.
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we the people, and I think the opportunity to put it on the ballot is giving that opportunity to the people. um I've i've seen plenty of different things on the ballot
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my due diligence to find out uh what what am I voting on. Now, there are some people that may not pay attention to it, but I think we're taking that out of our hands and putting it into people's hands. They're also talking about the rebate program itself. um Really, a lot of those funds end up coming back to the cities and the counties um
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um And so, you know, I think even if we have the program, the council, whoever that may be in the future, still have the opportunity to debate approving that particular business for the rebate program anyway. ‸ So we don't know who that's going to be on council, but, you know, they have the opportunity to have that discussion. So that was my thing but
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We toured um Guardian Ignition Interlock Manufacturing. We toured that facility.
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So we clearly seen the number of employees that they have and that's gainfully employed and within the city of
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How do I know? Because a lot of them are former students. So
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will, you know, advertise this in the newspaper. You can get your look at it through the Internet, even in social media. But the point that I'm saying to you, um I don't sell the people short. So my thing is I believe in the people and they believe in us and we'll
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a motion on the floor to approve this particular item. uh Ordinance number 10-2024 for
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Unanimously. Proceeding on to the next item. Second reading of the Land Development Code.
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amendment to appendix A Article
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zoning district to provide a definition of truck parking facilities. um I think this is is this you, Mr. murray Is that Mr. Patrick
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um Also, this
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read this too as
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Council
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County, Florida amending the zoning
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‸ zoning district, providing a definition of truck parking facilities, providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions incorporation into the coast severability and an effective date. This is second and final reading of this ordinance. Also, a public hearing item. There have been a few amendments. To the ordinance ‸ since first reading. I think the planning consultant may want to just touch upon them before uh the Council takes this up.
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Yes. Thank you, Council. ‸ Patrick Murray, RBI landscape uh planning and landscape architecture for the record. um following our hearing two weeks ago, uh the applicant requested slight change regarding the, um landscape design requirements and it was added that landscape shall be designed and placed in a manner. As to not impair impair vehicle visibility at the corner of intersections or ingress and egress of drives. the
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was primarily due to the, um orientation of the building as this, uh individual applicant is proposing. And the applicant is here.
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‸ Council ‸ over to the public? Please come forward and state your name for
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Please submit a card in advance if you could.
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consistent with Appendix A, Zoning Article 21, to change the zoning map designation of 11 parcels totaling 1.39 acres with the address of 301 South Foucault Boulevard from CP Commercial Parkway to CN
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here or are you going to speak in advance? Stephen? Okay. ‸ I know we postponed it, I get it, but I'm just saying. Yeah,
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my understanding is the applicant
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regular city council meeting.
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Okay. ‸ And we will, any questions? So I can close it to the council, over to the public. You can only talk about the postponing of this consideration of this zoning map
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‸ to the council.
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by deputy mayor Hearn.
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I know we are well rehearsed in this and I do have some cards in
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the audience.
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Yeah, ‸ yes, sir. Just very briefly, as you ‸ said, ‸ the city has been going back and forth with the county for a number of years.
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actually expired in 2011 and 2012. And
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their April 24th, 2024 meeting. And advise the city council that they have an option to accept it. And that acceptance must be, they must be notified by the end of this month as to whether or not you accept the ‸ proposed contract for an effective date of October 1, 2024. So the beginning of the next fiscal year. Again, this contract really seeks to limit the expenditures, the county expenditures to the revenue that's coming in from the special district. And then, uh, share in, uh,
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expenditures, uh, sharing approximately a 50 50, um, split between, uh, for those expenditures that, uh, come in after. I'll say that, uh, the expenditure exceeds the revenues that are in the, um, that are in the, uh, that come into the district from the city of Coco. Um,
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that we do take over, uh,
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I can't remember those off the top of my head.
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And again, just for, to remind the council and the audience that this is, this has, we're estimating at this time, approximately, uh, up to a half a million dollar impact to the, to the city's budget.
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one accord. Do you have anything you would like to share, Mrs. Morgan,
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I just wanted to add that that interlocal agreement is part of the agenda item does exclude the three parts.
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Yes ma'am. Yes. ‸ Okay, Councilman Goins and Councilwoman
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to elaborate now or would you like to hear from the public and then after they give us their concerns and then I will turn the microphone back to you guys. Yeah, okay. Is that fair and equitable? ‸ Mrs.
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come forward please.
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meeting on July 7th or July 10th online, so I saw that and I was also in attendance at the commission meeting on July 9th and got to hear some of the discussion there. ‸ So
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in terms of the three players that are in the parks budget and now this agreement, this new agreement, seeks to remove that and equalize the
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I wanted to share a few of the comments that Commissioner Goodson had made on this. He ‸ said that he supported the equalization of this effort because one,
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made the comment, which was quite interesting to me, he said, you can't fix stupid. That's what he said during the meeting. Commissioner Tom Goodson. And so I was sitting there in the meeting and listening to it and I once again had watched the ‸ July 10th meeting and my take on it is that as a concerned citizen, I wasn't able to go in and advocate on COCO's behalf for anything on the parks matter and the parks agreement because ‸ I have concerns. So as a concerned citizen, I am concerned and I brought this up all the way back from 2021 when I first started getting engaged about lack of public engagement in the parks planning.
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Nothing has happened despite repeated attempts to try to get the public back into the parks planning. So if we don't have the public in the parks planning, where are we? And then there's a lack of transparency and public input in the district for budget in particular. I attended a meeting just last week on Thursday, big meeting week on Thursday, and I was trying to get insight into whether or not the prioritized spending that occurred on March 5th for the special equipment for the parks ended up in the budget and I can't even answer that question. And I went to the meeting and I spoke with Mary Ellen Donner after the meeting when my question was not answered. She had, uh, she revealed after several questions that she had privately met with Mr. Witten about it. But this is the amount of effort
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and I can't figure out what's going on with the district for parks budget. So I really think that you guys should rethink this even at your meeting where you're talking about mini soccer pads and new spending and veteran spending
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I was just appalled by that. And here we have,
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Hearn.
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reported by um, by Dr. Witten who prior said 95,989 dollars had been spent on engineering. So we have numbers that don't add up and lack of public trust. There's no one to help you engage with the county. Thank
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you very much.
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Thank you.
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Oh
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well, I'm going to turn it back on.
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What did you say Ms. Lorty?
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didn't hear you. Ms. Lorty, did you say something?
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I thought there was another car but
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Okay,
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Rockledge
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same substance as this agreement. They have an existing agreement that expires in maybe four or five years.
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Okay, so they've had an agreement since theirs originally expired and it,
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this.
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mean, I guess because, I guess my biggest problem and you know we discussed this at length so no need to talk about it a lot here but ‸ half of the kids that participate are from Rockledge or unincorporated area. I guess
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have in our parks, we have with Stradley Park, we have a regional field park, you know, for organized sports. These are all services to all the citizens of the county. So it does feel like that, you know, there's fairness lacking here. This was the first time I saw the salaries attached to the parks and you know looking at 145,000 for Travis. I'm kind of amazed by that, given that it's only open so many hours a day and there's
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up and I'm sorry I hadn't, we didn't have a chance to talk about this because we didn't, didn't get the background on this until today but or yesterday but the have we considered
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ma'am it's it's not um the recreation center it is it is Gilmore family,
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have language in the contract that says that the city can have those discussions about who they want as the uh operators at uh parks there. And so that would be new that the city could at some point in time decide that they want to go to a third party to with city staff to actually operate the parks but that requires a negotiation between the city and the county.
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Okay. Okay well that um I was looking through the slide presentation I did want to point out on page two or the second slide, just so we want to look at this when we present in the future, because I don't think it really serves us the way um it's currently laid out the current level of service exceeds the comprehensive plan requirement um that 323 acres I believe that includes the cocoa conservation area and
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as you know when we brought that up I think Eric was the consultant that was here he confirmed that that that is not considered park recreation um so um I mean the department of environmental protection their definition conservation open space, is separate use from recreation um because it is used to conserve potentially environmentally sensitive lands as well as wetlands and floodways. So just to point that out because if you take that away we have quite a bit less
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so. okay that's it. Thank
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just for, my question is, my understanding was that our conversation relative to the entirety of the subject was going to wait to the end of comment. Therefore, comments would be direct to the speaker at this point and that I'm just checking as a body are we making general comments to the issue or are we making comments to the to the speaker at this point?
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you
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it's on me so first thing I I don't like this particular contract at all because I I'm probably the only one here that is you know currently a rec partner now and I know the issues that the county has, which is employees and so in lack thereof. And so I know we have our checks and balances inside our contract with them of maintenance schedules and things of that nature I'm just concerned with changes of employees within our city. Those checks and balances go away. And now our citizens
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to councilwoman causes point our parks are used by the entire county. It's not like it's just Cocoa residents. So when commissioners say certain things that they don't know what they're talking about because they don't go to the parks themselves to visit. ‸ They don't go to any events inside those parks, but they make comments that they don't even truly understand or even reach out to our administration because they don't have the respect for those people that we have in and in leadership within our city it it disturbs me because again I am I'm every single day I'm in the park in some sort of a park within cocoa rock ledge wherever ‸ and if they don't have enough employees to handle the checklist that we're going to provide them and so I don't want to hear the crap about we don't put enough money in based on our tax revenue
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city. It makes no sense to try to use apples to apples on something like this
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It is ‸ asinine to even go there
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what you think only Rockledge dogs go to Rockledge dog park no it make it make it makes no sense so
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so this to citizens when when you have commissioners who represent your city to represent ‸ your area and they don't work with that particular city for whatever the situation is reach out to them and ask them why.
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Okay, that
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that's all I ask from our citizens
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we have several individuals here that go to those meetings I think that's the question that we should ask is is is what why is that open line of communication not there I know their county manager speaks on
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our city
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manager a lot but again when commissioners make those statements
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it's
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dais and trying to make myself look smart I'm there I see it I see the lack of I see a pretty buildings not being pressure washed
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tell me that they clean the bathroom, but it's three
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nests over top of it. There's no way you wouldn't clean that bathroom so it is certain things that I get upset about because again I'm there every single day and so I don't like this contract but I do understand
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financially for our city,
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put us in a bind. Because
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that, too. So they knew that throwing this in our lab was gonna ‸ put us in a
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and we don't have a choice and so I just I want to make that be known that our parks are not simply used by
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Melbourne I have teams play here and then they go play in Melbourne so it should be a shared responsibility. And so that's just my opinion on it. But back to the checks and balances. What, what, as far as our city, how do we, ‸ what's the plan for us to make sure that those checks and balances are there? ‸ what, what do we do? How do we yearly, monthly how do we do that I guess that's my question for ‸ us as a staff yeah I think
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as a staff
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we have to, we have to check that they are, are doing these things there and so that'll be largely the responsibility of staff I mean ‸ the one good thing about this is, this new contract is that they do have the service level standards there. And so, and so we know that on a daily basis, they're supposed to be doing certain things. And so we'll just have to make periodic checks on, on, ‸ whether or not they're doing those things against this service standard
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checklist
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and so ‸ a couple of, a couple of, points of clarification,
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pad, at junior Rios Park
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that is no longer a project that is under consideration for you all. But again,
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pad I believe that Commissioner Goodson use the phrase you can't help stupid or stop stupid, when he was referring to or talking about the, four quadrants for the railroad crossing
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Council when he was a when he said that I have no idea what she what Mrs. Lorty is referring to with regards to my math versus her math there we know exactly what we spent on the design and I trust staffs numbers on that and so again we're sure of our numbers
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is that, 63 years. So so it's been a district-wide program. ‸ There was never consideration of who was putting the most in the pot and getting and getting the the the least from the pot there. That discussion started occurring a number of county commissioners back. And so this is,
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There is no question that what is collected from the district residents in the city of Cocoa is less than what we've been getting from the district. Again,
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it took, because it was set up as a district-wide park system, ie you're not restricted as a Cocoa resident to the cocoa parks nor are you restricted as a Rockledge resident to the Rockledge parks You can use any of those parks. ‸ there. And so, so this has been a long time coming. we don't have an ability to, to fully fund the cost of these district parks. There
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of them. And so ultimately at the end of the day,
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the district tax revenue, whatever that amount is, won't allow us to actually, fully expense all eight parks.
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after we get to that revenue ceiling is, is, a is something that we have to take, or you all have to take at this particular point in time. hopefully there are better days coming in terms of tax revenue, but you have a whole lot of competing interests
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dedicated to the to the station is coming from fund balances and I can guarantee you that when that station happens it'll generate tax revenue that that is ‸ significant and so so I'll make that point there
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is the is the ‸ parks and rec director for for the for Brevard County and I am the city manager and and I don't have any private meetings with
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Donner they're all on the schedule we talked about this agreement we talk about various parks projects and so to characterize it as private meetings is is a misrepresentation of what those public meetings are.
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thank you and um just in
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the speakers
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and or comments I had for you uh
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two bites at the
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the well okay um but it's I would leave it to you up there in genuine so I just to clarify uh during the budget meeting that we held one of the things that I did was in short bring forward to council to nix the the additional splash pad at juni rios
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happen
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okay so that didn't I'm saying so it was brought forward uh you asked
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us how much the engineering was I'm
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you asked how much the design fees were and Mr. Whitten responded 60,000 and then
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so I'm accurate about that
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right but I'm just saying it was brought forward to
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that's correct
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right to to to be done and so that was all feedback that I had gotten throughout the district uh after visiting the park
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I just share with you that outside of holding an additional public meeting uh that was going out meeting people in the place where they
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I just share with you that was the process uh the second was that are you aware that I also offered a budget cut uh across the board you
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requested a budget cut
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say that yes we don't know what will happen but yeah correct just
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to clarify so from a money standpoint that was something that was
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I had offered all the way across to everybody uh and for you know to each council so on and so on uh I know that there was a council member who was advocating for additional resources to be spent in the district I think at the expense of district three
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and then nobody did so I'm just to clarify that it wasn't just you know gross overspending I think I think it was hearing what people were saying hey let's try this something different and then also offering a cut and the third part is that
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we may differ uh the reason that I offered utilizing funds from a reduction of spending to a potential splash pad with a reoccurring 40,000 a year was instead of personally trying to increase the millage
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rate, finding a way to utilize funds from some
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get to a veterans representative that could service veterans
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saying that that was appalling that that I will stand on
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I was concerned about is is that the reallocation of the remaining 589,000 that I had concerns about representative for ‸ citizen representation in the reallocation of those remaining dollars and that the citizens be included in that discussion. So that is my concern and I heard it being reallocated elsewhere before coming to the citizens.
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And I
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there was some kind of a plan that talked about projects that could happen and then also we talked about maybe getting a citizen and
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that, sorry, the city manager came up with on those specific
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to do a poll on that, which is still supportable not as supportable as getting actual citizen input from the grassroots.
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then and then each one of those would be brought before Council for approval thereby allowing people to have process in the input prior to process
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‸ input is always welcome. Yeah.
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95,859. So, again, off the top of my head, there may have been a number that I actually said at the meeting. But, again, we
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encumbrance, we have the financial records there, and so it is different than both the 60-something and the 120-something.
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Okay. Thank you for the point of clarification. Okay. Do we have any other cards? Okay.
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none, where do the wishes of council pertaining to item number 7-1 provide direction of the District 4 of our county parks and recreation in a local agreement? You have your light on, Councilman Baringer.
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Yes, sir. And this is on discussion, ‸ a concern that I had specifically to the agreement. And it's under Section 4 for public ‸ accessibility. So, I think one of the concerns is that the language that's within the contract might be dated. And ultimately, it reads as follows. Public accessibility. All recreational facilities, buildings, and centers located on property shall be accessible
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sex, race, religion, disability, or place of residence.
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be accessible to the public on a
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basis without regard to sex. Ultimately, the Florida legislature passed the Safety in Private Spaces Act. And under that, transgender individuals can't use a public bathroom. So, how do we navigate that? Because that language doesn't work.
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you can't. Are we back to there? You know, certain people only. We have a history of that in Cocoa in the 60s. So, I ‸ don't know who's printing the sign. I'm not excited about that.
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Is that it, sir?
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Want to hear from the attorney?
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Yeah, attorney can help us out. And I'll use a prime ‸ example. My cousin went through a transition. Went through the whole shebang. Doesn't have eggs.
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But if she comes to Florida, she's got to use the bathroom. She has to go in the boys' bathroom. After going through a full transition. Which, okay. There's a lot of people
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think that's awesome. But I'm just... Our language and our actual bathrooms kind of don't work for a percentage of population. And I think that's probably pretty cruel. I mean, if you have to use the restroom and you can't. But, okay. I don't
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can help. Thank you, sir.
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don't know if I can even address that. Other than...
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mean, the county has proposed this contract to take it or leave it.
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You know, I think from an operational standpoint, it's going to...
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behoove the county
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the city to comply with whatever the applicable
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regarding accessibility. So, ‸ that's about all I can say at this juncture.
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I'll reserve a comment.
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Okay.
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You finish?
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Yeah, I'll listen.
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‸ Deputy Mayor Hearn. Yes. At the most recent budget meeting, Councilman Beringer, he had mentioned something on the lines of the rate at which the county pays for water usage at the parks around the county. Does anyone know by chance the type of rate that we charge the county at the parks?
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they paying nothing? ‸ Are they paying a regular residential rate?
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Well, the agreement has us paying it.
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Not for our parks within our city. I
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don't think they pay a residential rate, Jack. They would probably pay whatever tier that they're in. I don't know if there's a commercial rate.
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But they pay for the utilities at their parks.
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will pay directly for the utilities ‸ at the district parks, ‸ whereas the district was paying for ‸ those rates previously, for ‸ the ‸ utility bills previously.
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So my next comment would probably be a question for attorney Garganese. You probably don't have the answer now, but maybe in the next meeting or so, could you bring back legal advice if it's legal to look at different tiers that we charge at other ‸ parks around the county that we supply water utility to?
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Well, it's going to be, ‸ again,
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the type of property and then the usage amount.
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That's in your ordinance with regards to the fee schedule for, for the utility rates there. So, so they're paying, um, the appropriate rate based on what, what tier they're in there. Again, I don't think it's a residential tier.
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I guess to clarify more of what I'm trying to say, uh, does council reserve the right to take a look at those fees? Uh, sometime in the near future.
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Yeah. Each, each year you all approve.
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There, there's a, uh, revenue sufficiency study. There is the, remember we only went up 2% on, on
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special plans.
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I don't know that you have an ability to, to carve them out of the existing rate schedule.
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Okay. City manager, city attorney. If we do not approve this item tonight, what are the repercussions? Yeah. They're going to force. Go ahead.
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again, their action, um, was, you know, I'm going to read it in its entirety on, uh, what we have on the presentation.
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approved direction to staff regarding the proposed interlocal agreement with the city of Cocoa for the operation and maintenance of Cocoa Parks with the ‸ following options. Number one was to present the proposed
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approval by October 1st, 2024. Number two, if the city does not approve the interlocal agreement by July 31st, 2024, the county will notify the city that it will cease to maintain
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allow us to make some changes. Even after that approval on the April 24th, we've made some changes and some logistical changes. We've made some changes with regards to, uh, financial reconciliation. Um, and so we did make some operational logistical changes within the contract. But the bottom line is, is that you have to notify them by the end of this month, whether or not you're going to, uh, enter into this agreement. If you don't, they will notify you that beginning October 1st of this year that we are responsible for maintaining those district parks and, um,
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And I'm looking for a second.
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Second.
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Okay. We have a second on the floor.
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Let the record reflect.
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have four. Yes. The only dissenting vote was a councilman.
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Thank you very much. Proceeding on to
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Mr. City manager, sir.
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Thank you.
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All right. I love it.
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It depends if you're depending or not.
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Thank you, Mr. ‸ Mayor. Yes, sir. As you
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a whirlwind. Um, starting with the announcement. I think the announcement came back in
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Yes. Yes. For the station. Um, and so we've been, uh, fast to work,
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hard at work, filling out the, uh, grant application, uh, going over to the county to, uh, to, uh, advocate for tourism dollars there.
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We were successful in submitting, uh, the federal grant application. The city is the applicant on the federal grant application. And I think the TPO is the co-applicant on the grant application.
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Um, again, the, the revenue stream at this
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agency budget at 2 million.
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missing any other, uh, funding categories. And so, so again, that left 47 point, I think 5 million as the federal grant application that was submitted at the end of, or the third week of, was that may third week of may.
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by a percentage
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Perhaps October, November, maybe even as early as, uh, September, but, but again, in the fall months, hopefully we will know something.
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concurrence on is that, uh, the mayor, myself, the county commission chairperson. Um,
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the, uh,
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I think Linda Weatherman with the economic development commission, uh, Brightline executives are traveling up to Washington DC to meet with, uh, agency heads or agency staff and the, uh,
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Um, we're also meeting with, um,
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some other meetings there. And so if the board can just, uh, give me the concurrence, uh, ‸ approval of that travel for the mayor and myself. And that, that happens next week. It is a 26 hour trip. So we go up one day and we come back the next day, but again, we'll be up there, uh, meeting with them. Part of, uh, um, actually creating, uh, the vision for the Brightline station.
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application. If you, uh, you will recall, and, and, and perhaps the public didn't know that the city actually owns approximately close to 40 acres or maybe a little ‸ over 40 acres, uh, right behind the Walmart, uh, super center and right, uh, adjoining the Brightline properties in the curve. The curve is, uh, we'll just, we'll just call that, uh, east of, uh, the Walmart, uh, super center, west of the, uh, west of, uh,
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So we own, um, three parcels, uh, in that curve. One of the parcels has, uh, it's a 25 acre parcel that has a conservation easement in favor of St. Johns water management district.
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easement or a release of that conservation easement so that we could actually, um, um, utilize that parcel perhaps subdivide the parcel to establish public private partnerships for, uh, mixed use development. And,
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sort of present that vision, not sort of, he's going to present the vision of, uh, of the curve, if you will. And so,
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I'll turn it over to him. Ultimately, I'll come back, uh, when the time is right and ask for your approval. But again, just so that you guys are aware, we are pursuing a release of that conservation easement on, on, uh, on the, on the part of the 25 acre parcel that runs directly behind and into the, to the south of,
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Walmart, uh, super center.
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the presentation.
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All right. Thank you, Mr. Wooden. Uh, good evening, mayor council.
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Um, I'm the principal of our design practice across our, across our five Florida offices, uh, located in
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planning staff here. So you've met him. Um, I'm going to go through the contents of what we're going to talk about today. So in a little, uh, additional highlight or background that Mr. Wooden provided, I'll,
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kind of extend on that.
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asked us to put together this document to show what the opportunity could be and help with some of the applications that he's running through coordination with different agencies. Uh, and as we started that out,
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we always like to ask ourselves before you put bubbles on a plan to start assigning different uses. What's, what's the reason behind it? What's the why? Uh, where's the meat behind the idea that's going to drive it? What would make people want to come to a location like this?
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to, of course, physical and economic implications of developing a site like this and different vision implications.
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I'll define that. We'll look at some case studies on how this place could physically manifest.
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those iterations together. Uh, so the opportunity, uh, y'all know the site location. He described it here. It is for, for everybody in the room on location. The green property is the city owned parcels that Mr. Wooden mentioned. The red parcels are owned by Brightline and then the sort of orange, yellow parcels are adjacent parcels that are primed for development owned by different entities. And then we put this map on there.
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Uh, the inner ring is half a mile. Um, and
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like to put that up there just so we can get a lay of the land and understand what are the opportunities outside of the site that make it valuable. And what ‸ we noticed that there are of course, a lot of private and public assets around this site in particular, you've got, for example, you've got Cocoa High School within walking distance. You've got Eastern Florida State College. There's a UCF Cocoa extension there as well. So there's a lot of opportunity that could catalyze growth on this site, uh, and be used by a lot of different folks for a lot of different reasons for a mixed use development in addition to the cataclytic use of a Brightline station. That's a regional connector. So start off with a question. What if the
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use district? Uh, so in addition to having a Brightline station, what if this was a hub that could attract an assortment of, of users for an assortment of reasons?
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In addition to having a regional train cross through this area, you're also going to have access to these private and public institutions that I, that I mentioned that surrounded our public uses.
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If it were imagined that way, that could be walkable, bikeable, able to connect back to main routes to the greater Cocoa area, uh,
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in a different. In addition to attracting new uses, uh, that hits the accessibility rejuvenating.
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land. I would say for development on the city owned property. It's, it's a substantial amount of it. We have our experts, our biologists that have looked at it. It is, it is an isolated wetland. It does have a conservation.
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conservation, but we also see that as an opportunity from a development standpoint. There's a lot of reasons that you could maintain part of a wetland for stormwater applications to free up other developable higher quality upland properties around it onto perhaps a portion of the city owned property that could be sold back in a way for use of the surrounding development. Uh,
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for different types of housing, um, in a new district like this that may attract different types of folks, uh, ‸ different socioeconomic levels and, and there at different times in their life. It could be an opportunity for a density. It could be an opportunity for different types of rental housing in addition to housing for purchase. For example,
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educational opportunities. I mentioned this, the surrounding schools that are in proximity that could leverage this for housing, mixed use opportunities, additional campus assets of the sorts. And of course,
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with a raw piece of land that is spurred off of an exciting railway opportunity with the Brightline. There's a lot of energy behind this and we could elevate this into an exciting dynamic and beautiful place for people to live in a contemporary design ‸ space. Who would go there? Right? So I think a lot of folks could go there, but who could we target in, in particular? So
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folks that are coming out of school or coming out of their training, uh, as they leave high school, get into some asset, figure out what they're going to do for their, their lives. They could go to a new place like this with diverse housing types, uh, and close to local institutions for education. You're talking
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starting to look for jobs for the first time in their life for educational opportunities. They could be attracted to this place because it could be a place that requires the need for, for, for maybe not a car. You can walk, you could bike, you could do those things in addition to other types of job opportunities. Uh, young professionals. So they've kind of gotten out of that range range.
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So, uh, really getting into the middle of their, uh, of the start of their career. I would say they've really kind of taken off their past the entry level job. They're looking to maybe upgrade their housing a bit. Uh, maybe they're not with the roommates anymore. They're starting a small family. You can provide different types of housing opportunities to progress into that level. And that could be for rent or for purchase. In addition to having a dynamic mixed use area with different types of nightlife or job opportunities,
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get to regional destinations. Uh, and then I'm gonna go with
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We're in Florida. That's a reality. And I think about folks that are downsizing. They may be empty nesters, uh, or on the verge of retirement. Uh, maybe they're gonna ‸ move out of their house. That was, that was kind of built for their family. And now they can get to a place that has a regional hub to go to different destinations as they start to get a little bit of free time in their life and also have some disposable income because they're not encumbered by childcare costs and the things that people in the middle of their life often encounter. So it's an opportunity for, again, another type of housing choice, uh, that is brand new and can ‸ be, uh, reinvented in such a way.
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come. So when I say mixed use housing opportunities,
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You're looking at ground floor, retail opportunities, different types of commercial. And that's kind of what the scale has been to interpret here on the screen. A master stormwater park system. Now this one might be slightly outside the box. You know, why would we donate land or use land towards a storm, a stormwater function so that the larger picture that's called victory point park that's in Claremont.
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infill development. They ran out of space. The only opportunity they had was stormwater ponds speckled throughout the town. They said, you know, what if we freed up development and they used actually a wetland site in a similar situation
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isolated lower quality wetland that didn't have a environmental function outside of the footprint that it was in and actually turned it into a more of an environmental asset that was capable of freeing up the developable infill land around it.
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That's a lumber yard that's slated for different types of land uses.
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So when that user matures to the point where they decide to move on and capitalize on their property, that will be the new point. The
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location in Claremont for new development and infill, and it will leverage that pond for stormwater without encumbering their site with the need to do stormwater. So therefore making their property more valuable and more apt to be developed.
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on this property. In addition to that is a that's a what I would call a world class park because they actually attract kind of world attracting triathlon events and such. So it's also the stage that folks come to and they see and they recognize Claremont for their innovation. Mass transit.
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know that we know that Brightline is coming in. That's a tremendous opportunity. It's a high quality development.
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It's seamless to the community. So the idea is that a new development could embrace this. I show a picture on the top left.
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So that was seamlessly designed to have a mixed use development in tandem with the station they have for the train there.
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transit oriented development, a compact ‸ accessible place that people can get regionally and compete around.
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be a great vision for this place to understand. And if you look ‸ a lot of the Brightline stations that are down towards Miami, those are seamlessly designed. They've done a great job with it
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So here's the here's the conceptual plan. All the things I mentioned are up here in some type of form. And again, this is an exploration.
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and we applied them to a site to leverage the opportunity. And some of the things I'd like to point out are, you know, first and foremost, there is a
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on site. We've tried to maintain a portion of that, but it's not necessary. We think you could get by without doing it.
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create a park at set that could have trails, boardwalks and also raise the property values of the mixed use development around it by creating open space opportunities that often multifamily developers and other commercial developers that are trying to build for a lifestyle are often attracted to. Without wasting a lot of land, right? So it's still going to be used for stormwater, not any more than it needs to be, but a substantial amount of that wetland could be positively used without, say, wasting any development opportunity. The corner has a park allocation. We understand through Mr. Whitten that part of this land was donated and there was a request that some portion of that land be used for city parkland. We think that's ‸ fantastic opportunity. It happens to be on that quadrant of the site and that's that's
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If you imagine this would be a primary gateway into this development, you could put a large gateway sign there. The park would welcome folks to this district as well as the pride. Great accessibility through there.
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that's surrounded by and in a lush environment like a wetland, but also an intense development that could activate it. You'll see the master stormwater system that I explained there just behind the Walmart site. The location of that is ‸ for a couple of reasons. That's towards the headwater of that wetland and elevation. And also that creates a buffer from the back end of Walmart. So it's a little bit more aesthetically pleasing in location conceptually.
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which will have parking, maybe a garage, some buildings that cushions it a little bit, maybe calms down the intensity around that use while also creating this magnetic hub towards the middle. And then around it, around all these uses parkland, wetlands, stormwater ponds, Brightline station, you're surrounded by all of this mixed use development that I've been describing,
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that's attracted to all these different types of age groups, demographics, people at different points in their lives, the opportunity for them to live in this dynamic, fresh, new environment. And that's ‸ what we've got for you today. Thank ‸ you. Can
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so just to be, and ‸ they did a great job in ‸ taking ‸ my vision or ‸ concepts ‸ and actually putting them on some sort of conceptual plan and actually making some rhyme and reason to the different uses. Um, and so when you look at the mixed use that to the left of the screen, that that is, uh, primarily the, the city owned parcel and the thought process would be mixed use development, similar to what you're gonna, what you're gonna, what you're gonna review tonight with regards to the RFP for the five acres there. So the vision really is to actually in whole or in part or in parts, uh, do an RFP for public private partnerships for some sort of mixed use development. And as the minister secrets has said,
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it that, uh, that, uh,
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restricts it to public uses, uh, primarily, uh,
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uses there. And so I think they've hit that perfectly. Um,
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the site plan here,
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where the post office is right off of industry and then there's a parcel right next to the post office and then Brightline owns everything from one parcel away from the post office all the way through the curve and up to our property. And so, and
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a Mr. Secret said, the, the premier sort of pit
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development in the city. Um, this had to get done because St. John's, uh, water management district, St. John's river water management district requires us to submit a conceptual in their consideration of the, uh, the release of the, uh, of the conservation easement. And so, so this was put together, uh, in pursuit of that. But again,
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what we believe, uh, are the possibilities in and around the train station. So we will take questions,
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you have them, Mr. Mayor.
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light on, uh, your conceptual plan. Ryan, uh, awesome. Well connected in reference of mixed use, ‸ regional life, an educational environment with location of, uh, the beautiful thing, especially that area within a mile radius. You can go from elementary school to college to postgraduate and be accessible. So that will have a definitely positive impact in the community. Uh,
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helping to purify the runoff water. And I think I would like for us to continue being progressively advanced and kudos to you. Uh, I salute you, Mr. City manager, Mr. City attorney, but more so than anything else, I want to say salute you all staff, all staff members, directors, all 400 plus
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and I know we're finally going to get our red lobsters, olive
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So all dollars will stay local. Buy local, spend local, keep it local.
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go to Maryland. I have to take my cocoa dollars out of the area.
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can provide jobs so we can provide
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way of life to raise a family.
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So thank you for having that vision because our station will resemble the station photo you just showed us. I think was at the Palm Beach station.
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Okay. I love it. What we're talking about under 10,000 square feet, something, I think something to the dimensions to that, the building, the edifice itself. So, um, I want to make it, you know, aesthetically pleasing to the eye. So you come back, you hear? That's where we answer. Deputy Mayor. ‸ Sir.
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So first I want to say thank you for the work that you put into this conceptual plan is beautiful. Definitely pays the way for future cocoa. However, I put a lot of thought process into this over the weekend. And one of the things
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talked about over the, you know, three years I've been in here, um, is connecting our communities to our, uh, the amenities that we do have. And that's going to come to cocoa.
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district two, I can see now, once this is up, many kids, teenagers, even adults are going to want to access this, this beautiful, uh, plant or work here. Um, so I don't know how much hard work it would be to do what I'm going to about to ask.
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Um, I've traveled places outside the state where they have, uh, walkways along the rails. Um, they're enclosed, so it protects people from, you know, accessing the railroad and getting hurt.
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show along the rail down us one, uh, to, uh, Dixon Boulevard, like a walkway that that's possible. I know it may be a no, but I mean, if we don't present it, I don't think we'll get it, but I'm real big on trying to, uh, connect our communities, uh, ‸ in cocoa.
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no, uh, next to the tracks. From what I was told, I spoke to some people. There's a buffer that Brightline owns between a private property along the rails and, uh,
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actual rails itself.
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fencing, um, like a sidewalk that people access on bike walk. Um, but that's a great way if we present it and it goes through that
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uh, plan here. That's going to be a district four, especially with a park sitting right down the corner of Michigan.
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I'm, I really want to push to at least present that idea to Brightline. Um, it's also, I've read an article. I can get that article to you. Um, people that do put walkways along rails, it prevents pedestrians from, uh, being enticed with walking on rails and getting hurt. Um, so yeah,
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do, I think, and I really appreciate the comment. Mr. Hearn. I, I think for a development like this, I think connectivity is key. Um, of course, you know, starting with the development as the attractor and then working outward to try to make connectivity to those locations that are drawn to it. Um, I think is, is often the second step because that requires, you
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significant investment. And once the asset is in place, the investment usually is realized and folks want to get to that point. And
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it, that perhaps a plan can be put forth. And if grant dollars are put in place to maybe get a transportation enhancement or something to put a bike, a bike path or a widened trail down one of these right of ways or be at the railway, that's usually when it happens because, you know,
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that can be attracted to it. That would, that's usually our recommendation as a consultant when it comes to that.
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absolute certainty, access will be key. And I do think that we should identify those opportunities now where they're available by identifying right of ways that are maybe a little bit wider and could accommodate a change later.
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You can put it in there and say, what's the reality of this? It's going to take significant dollars, but let's plan for it. So somebody has written it down and it's an asset somewhere.
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One of the, one of the, the, you see the proposed roundabout, um, in the, in
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And that is, uh,
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make sure I'm not saying the wrong thing.
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Yeah. And so, and so one of the partners in this, you know, there's, there's
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that roundabout proposal. That, that would, uh, require, um, Walmart to actually bifurcate their pawn, um, their retention or detention pawn there.
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One of the fortunate things for the city is that, uh, the previous development agreement with the super, with the, uh, Walmart super center required them to actually, you see the red dotted roadway coming from the roundabout. It actually required them to actually, uh, bear the expense of building that roadway.
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And so just some, some sort of perfect timing with regards to, to all of this coming together there. But, you know, we'll, we'll, we'll sit down and look at those opportunities to, to tweak it and, uh, and have walking paths and, and, uh,
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walkway walk, uh, amenities wherever we can ‸ along Michigan.
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And so, um, so,
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but
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sidewalks are designed to, uh, get people off of the road, pedestrians,
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cyclists and other folks off of the road.
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or without feeling as though they have to get in the roadway. So, so that, that, that, uh, is a part of would be a part of this system
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again, Mr. Mayor, I want to thank,
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together.
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the mayor and I will be traveling with, I think Samantha, you know, how many other folks are going up to DC with us.
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Yeah.
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number there, but, but there, there are, there are folks, uh, probably 10, 12, maybe.
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Um, I'd say probably like five or six coming along with you.
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the mayor, myself, uh, the port, uh, chairman, uh, ‸ chairman of the port board is ‸ going. Uh, Linda Weatherman is going. And I think a couple of the folks from the community, community leaders are going there.
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Yes, that's right. I'm sorry. ‸ TPO administrator will be there.
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so, so again, just the council's concurrence on that, uh, council's concurrence, um, to some
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this to the, uh, to ultimately to
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behalf, uh, with regards to releasing the, um, the, um, the, uh, conservation easement. Um, and so just again, uh, just your concurrence on, on continuing forward on those initiatives.
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Okay. Okay. Let's see. Um, let me say it this way. Yes. ‸ Can I hear from council? Then we'll proceed from there. Uh, councilwoman calls then councilman band.
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Uh,
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yes. I think my request was, uh, heard correctly. So, okay. Thank you.
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I was just going to say in response to a deputy mayor Hearn, there is a natural, actually, you can see, see where the circle is on Michigan.
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I guess a stormwater pond over there, but it connects up to Fisk. There's a very natural emerald necklace that goes through there that, that, um, could be developed.
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and, and walking passive recreation. I wanted to ask,
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you said, what did you say the classification was on the wetlands?
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Um, so we do, we do have an expert with a firm called biotech looking at that. Our understanding in consulting with him is that it is an isolated wetland, um, based on their classification. And, and while that might mean that, you know, some water may be connected to some surrounding culverts or things like that. But from an environmental standpoint, it is not connected to a larger regional system and major water flow. And that's what they've identified. And only part of the wetland is actually within that conservation easement. There remains a larger portion that is not.
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favor, um, with some,
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it is not.
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They may have some conditions, but with, um, development of that site and plans like this, where we are advocating for using the wetland for a environmental benefit, um, goes a long way with the district. And to your point, there is a emerald necklace that continues or a green way that does continue naturally through there. And we are proposing that we maintain that connectivity for potential high hydrologic flow and environmental reasons of keeping that connectivity within the plan.
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Okay. I'm glad to hear that. Um, and you know,
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the Ridge goes through there and you have the Florida long needle pines, any plans to try to keep those?
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Well, certainly as part of the process, as development goes along, um, we don't have a survey that shows any of the, of the trees and species that are there right now. But certainly, uh, that will be taken into consideration for any development plans as a requirement.
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on this?
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Yes, I have recorded.
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Thank you.
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the professional and I am not. So, uh,
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recognize that what I would say is that in Brevard County, something I learned, uh, maybe about a decade ago is
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Uh, because there's not a whole lot we get to do with the Indian river.
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And so whatever that, when in that diagram of the circle, whatever the area is within the Indian river, if that is then applied to the opposite side or take whatever way you want, you know,
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Uh, and we're not putting in new restaurants on the river.
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I am way ahead of the horse on this. And so I just put this in your minds, this,
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Um, from, from my standpoint. ‸ On the, uh, on the roundabout, I'm gonna offer two things. One is honorary namings. Uh, and the first is gonna ‸ be for the roundabout. And I would hope council might consider something along the lines,
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So that roundabout that we could celebrate what that might look like. Uh, I know that he has been instrumental in helping ‸ support this project happen where the money has come from. I know that he, uh, by far in his legacy of service, whether you agree with all the politic portion or not, he has been dedicated to our country and dedicated to the state of Florida in decades of service. And so I think recognizing that, uh, and the contribution of making this happen, I think that designated as a freedom circle fits right ‸ along the lines for what he believes he stands for. So, and I think that there's a lot of people in Brevard who would believe that too. Uh, the second would be the park area. Uh, and that would be an honorary park to actually, uh, representative Tom Goodson. Uh, and prior to, uh, Mr.
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service as our county commission, of course, you know, he, he, he has been a businessman in this community for a very long time through paving.
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that has been a longstanding commitment and his Florida legislator days. I know he kind of bounced districts a little bit and you know, maybe I, well, okay, no problem. Uh, and then came home to serve the community as well. And so, you know, he's been instrumental in our park deal. And so I would love to see that the same level of service, uh, that we might receive at his honorary park as well would be equal to all the parks within our park ‸ district. So, uh,
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think in, in honorarily naming that. So I just hope that you would consider those two. Uh, and I think that that would be well deserved. Thank you.
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The last part, uh, city, I'm, I'm glad to hear that the port commissioner has decided to join that trip. Uh, and so, uh, to be, to be frank.
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I gotta believe that this is good for the port. I believe that I think that they often, uh, they don't care until they have to. Uh, and so I'm glad to hear that they are opening their eyes to this and may actually utilize tax dollars, uh, for what they are, which is intermodal regional transportation, uh, as a complete system.
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as well, whatever that looks like on the benefit to the port as well, because I believe that we also have a lot of people who come here for vacations and they take cruise ships and that they would be willing to stay in Coco the day before they leave.
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So thank you. Yes, sir.
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uh, two, maybe three weeks ago met with, um,
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port chairman, um, Michael Lloyd, um, port CEO and the county commission chair. And so to talk specifically about the project there and so, so we're continuing to, to extend ourselves to the port to talk about how they can participate, uh, in the project. Thank you.
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All right. Any other comments before I turn this over to the public?
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Let me do this first. You may have a seat. Mr. Ryan. Thank you. Yes, sir.
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Thank you, sir.
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So I hadn't planned to speak on this topic. ‸ I saw it in the agenda and it says in the agenda, bright line update by the city manager. So that just said update. Then once I saw that there was a, the presentation was involved,
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went online to look at the backup on it. And there is at least a part of this presentation, perhaps even most of it, but not all of it. So the mile circle is not available online and there is no narrative. So that's what surprises me the most is, is that
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no narrative in the agenda backup. And then my question always comes back to where's the public participation in the public business? You know, like I, you guys are about to take a vote to get consensus on this before it goes to Washington. And I just, I'm just sitting there and I'm surprised that. ‸ Well, why should I be surprised on
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And not a well attended workshop, daytime workshop, and
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So why should anybody be surprised? So I guess my takeaway is that anytime a resident sees Brightline on the agenda,
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But I am very disappointed to see a lack of public engagement about getting the public involved in
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audience and people at home and residents and
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who don't like roundabouts. And
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as anecdotally the city of Cape Canaveral,
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and this was in the last two years, and they were able to get that averted from their city based on their city getting involved and ahead of the game, not like Clear Lake where we're behind everything. They got ahead of the game and they wrote to FDOT and
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and you can correct me if I'm mistaken, but that's my understanding is, is that the city wrote a letter to FDOT that roundabout is not happening in the city of Cape Canaveral. So I just once again,
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and public engagement, especially in something that's high profile like this. And then when it comes to, I just happen to have a book
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And what I, the reason I'm actually bringing this up is because one of the things that got questioned in this book are trips to Washington and expenses. So, you know, I just, here we are, this was in 1992 and now we're in 2024, over 30 years later. And now we have a trip to Washington.
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I'm just saying, where's the transparency? Where's the community engagement?
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So I object to that. I object to not having the public in the public business and having our lives decided by others.
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Thank you.
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Um, I've been here, uh, four years in October. This will be my first time actually traveling officially, uh, as a city official. I'm not really addressing Mrs. Lowerty. So, so, uh, just let me make some clarifying points there. And so, so, uh, the trip to Washington is to meet with, um, the agency which the grant was submitted to. And so we're going to talk about the grant. We're going to provide them any information that they need, uh, from the city. This is conceptual. This is the first time you guys have seen this. This doesn't travel to Washington.
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just like the Cape Canaveral, uh, roundabout. This ‸ would go through that same public input process. Uh, the, the city, uh, future land use changes and zoning changes would go through a public, uh, input process.
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city manager saying to the consultant, let's come up with a vision for, uh, the site and ‸ let's present that vision. And let's work up to the various sources that need to eventually approve that vision. And so, so, um, so public input, uh, will come. Um, there's plenty of time for public input. This again is very conceptual. Nothing is approved on ‸ this. Um, I told you when we started ‸ with bright line that I'm going to seek permission, seek forgiveness on a whole lot of
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um, submitting the federal grant application, uh, the county, uh, ask of the tourist development taxes. But again, you've, you've, you've not approved anything you approve at each meeting travel. This is the one
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your concurrence on the travel for myself. Uh,
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I don't know how anything nefarious could be going on in DC when we go up and we talk to agency heads and we say, we have a project that we think is transformative. Um,
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is submitted under the Chrissy grant. And do you have questions? Do you need us to provide additional clarification? Um, what can we do to actually make sure that you have all of the information you need to favorably consider our grant application? That is the basis, the rhyme and reason for the Washington DC trip.
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Thank you very much. Mr city manager. You may be seated, ma'am.
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right. Okay. We all know I'm a train fan, right? Okay. Let's, let's get that out of the way right off the bat. Uh, I'm glad, uh, slide 14 ‸ still up there though. Uh, I'm kind of torn a little bit. One, first of all, let's all hope the Chrissy grant goes through and we get our station. I don't know what's going to happen if we don't get that Chrissy grant because that's a big chunk of money.
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Pretty soon you're talking about big money, right? Uh, so I, I, I look at our bubbles, uh, and with all due respect,
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to our consultant, uh, you know, when I look at ‸ the, uh, uh, Google maps, uh, that little sliver of wetland right along Michigan Avenue there actually takes up about 80% of that, but that's neither here nor there. My, my real question is, and I love the idea of a park. Not only that, but if you look at that land, uh, I'm sure if you dug down about a foot, you'd see pure white. Sugar sand, right?
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pine trees. Uh,
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but y'all don't care about that. What I care about is, is a park. And, and so my real question is, and, and as,
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I had been enlightened to, uh, you know, there is a, uh,
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conservation easement or a covenant or whatever you would like to call it for particularly that parcel. Actually,
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think there's two parcels in there. Uh, why would we have to remove that? Uh, if there is a reason that people much smarter than I, uh, need to do that. Great. But
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Hey, if we're going to make it a park and
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why can't we leave it? Uh, uh, but let, let's, uh, uh, let's not forget the discussion we were having earlier this evening about how much it costs for parks. Right? Uh, uh, so, uh, and also, uh,
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it had been mentioned,
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uh, had mentioned about the, uh, Michigan trail on the north side, uh, from my, uh, activities on the, uh, TPO. Yes, that is a fully funded project. And, uh, I believe, uh, uh, I'm sure
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Morgan could tell you the exact dates, but, uh, that's coming up fairly soon. Uh, the only, the only thing that's kind of shooting me in the head is, you know, here we went and just did that crossing. Maybe
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and now we're going to have to put up eight foot or a 10 foot path through there. So let's do work three or four times, which I always hate. Uh, lastly, I'll finish up by saying, uh, Mr. Barringer,
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thank you for what you have done for the city. Uh, I've seen you in action and I have appreciated and learned from you as all of you council members and staff.
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is much appreciated and no, I don't want your job.
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Yeah, Mr. Mayor, just to clarify for, uh, for Mr. Stoll, the, so the park parcel, there are two parcels there. There are those parcels don't have conservation easement on it. They just simply have the covenant that says park or some other public use.
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you, sir.
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So now you just need a consensus, sir.
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in reference, uh,
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Mr. Mayor, we're, we're presenting this to, we're going to have the consultant on the city's behalf, present this to, uh, St. John's water management district as they continue to consider our request to, uh, remove the easement or allow us to transfer the, uh, conservation easement. Um, and then, uh, approval of the travel for next week for you and myself for Washington, uh, DC. Yes, sir.
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Two separate ones. Um, yes, let me make sure it's approved.
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attorney. That's okay. Miss city attorney.
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What? Two separate motions or yes. Yes. Two separate motions is fine or one.
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I mean, I, the way you presented, that's the reason why I was saying two separate ones. I mean, you
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can use the word and which is a conjunction church means to include.
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So I get it. So we'll just do two separate ones just ‸ on the safe side.
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I'll second it.
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Hi.
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And then ayes. Ayes have it unanimously.
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Um,
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Okay.
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do I see you every, uh, January the first that guy by the name?
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Mr. Okay. Thank you all. Great project.
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got it like that. Okay. Here we
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go. Proceeding on to, um, council business item number eight dash three approved resolution
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Matthew Beringer and declaring a vacancy
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seat number three of the city council. Take whatever action the city council deems legal necessary to fulfill the seat district number three vacancy of the city council pursuant to article three section 10 of the city charter. And as you know, there's three parts to this.
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majority vote of three of the remaining council members at least at the next two council meetings, which will be August the 13th and the 27th city council can take a less structured approach and leave it up to the each city council member to nominate one or more qualified person for consideration. Um, and the nomination must occur August 13th, August 27th. Also the second portion and I'm gonna stop and let the city manager take it from there. The city council can take a more structured approach require the public notice be published in various public, excuse me, in various places advertising interesting candidates to fill an application for serving in district three seat by 12 PM Tuesday, August the 6th,
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2024.
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Mr. City manager,
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sir. Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor, you hit it.
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so the, the, the, again, as you know, the, the council by charter, um, rule has, uh, two meetings, um, um, after acceptance of the resignation to, uh, to designate a replacement. Um, the, the charter language also says that if that does not happen within those two meetings, it goes to a, a special election. Obviously the, uh, the, uh, supervisor of election is not going to hold at this point, a special election. And so that would, uh,
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advertisement, um, approval of the resolution tonight leaves the, again, as you mentioned, the August 13th and August 27th meetings for you all to appoint a replacement.
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Okay. Do we have any questions for the city manager?
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you. Uh, if you brought up, certainly brought a different perspective to this council, um, with your educational, but education background. And I certainly appreciate that your service, the sacrifice it takes, um, you know, being away from your family. I know how many hours, uh, it takes putting into this. Um, so thank you for that. Um, uh, just my opinion on the matter.
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would love to
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and allow, uh, anyone interested to, uh, put their name in the hat, uh, for the position. And,
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and I'll hear from the rest of council.
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with your blessings. Thank you very much.
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Please come to the podium. Now,
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Celeste. Now you put,
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uh,
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as number nine informational, you put in a card where you're trying to speak about this one right here.
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We don't have, we don't discuss information agenda.
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So I'm just trying to say, give you the opportunity to speak about this particular item here.
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Excuse me.
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And I am here to speak about this topic. First of all,
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Thank you.
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Thank you for your service. We haven't always agreed on everything, but I have very much appreciated your willingness to dialogue. We've had some very good dialogue. So thank you for that.
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So it's been over a week. So I oppose that lack of transparency and letting the public know timely about this vacancy.
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the plan for for what's happening yesterday
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about this in Coco cares because I think that the public should be timely notified You
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know and
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I would have liked to have seen the data and the background Online so that we had a few days to digest it on the options that were
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a proponent of the option to not
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So my first advocacy would be to not vote in the next two meetings for the reappointment To avoid the favoritism that can be involved with the incumbency Favorite position so someone who is appointed if they're going to run now if they're not going to run and they just want to be here for a few Months, I guess that's one thing But you know if they could
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planning to run they then then do have the incumbency advantage
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did not take a vote if you did not come to consensus Then what would happen is that it would go to the election and let the voters decide But if you do decide that you want to do an appointment Then the first person who should be looked at is Patricia weeks because Patricia weeks miss just weeks she was she put her name in for the first time back in October She was not selected she put her name in she will be putting if she hasn't already her name in again She's clearly running as a candidate.
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‸ And so the idea that we're going to go out to the public and advertise it. I don't know about that You know, we have someone who clearly wants the job So why wouldn't if we're going to be in the appointing position? Why wouldn't we appoint? Miss weeks so that she can have a couple months in the in the seat and see how she does So I just did I you know this announcement this short announcement window. I'm suspicious about that I'm not in in favor. I'm just not in favor of that I think we should do one of the two options that I suggested
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because
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selections have happened in this council So I do not like the selection process that has happened I comment on numerous times about various ways in your decision making why not do the fairest thing and either not appoint or Reward the person who has spent their time their money their initiative applied for the position twice and appoint them. Thank you
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um Regarding
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resignation. I believe that councilman Berenger asked for an extension and this meeting was the next meeting Um that was available for us to discuss this am I wrong by saying that
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31st Right correct. So so technically um you're not resigned until July 31st am I correct? correct. Okay, so Um, but I was just as shocked as everybody
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had me down a little bit
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you had deputy mayor
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make a suggestion that Is a public process? We say No, because it won't be something
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that we want right and so I'm in
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suggestion was Because of that same reason because it is open to the public for whoever Uh, it may be any further I'm in favor of using the date of august 27th um to solidify it. because for that purpose of it, I agree with with with um
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of using uh an appointment ‸ as a grandstand opportunity as well. uh, for anybody for anybody um to be an incumbent to use those few months just to be here, because we have a lot of work to do.
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the next few months that's going to come in front of us. um, so whoever whoever that may be I don't want it just to be for the purpose of November. and so I don't know if that's a possibility to actually use the august 27th date because our qualification uh date date deadline
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um whoever that may be that put their name in for that particular position. and I don't is that possible so that's the I know we have two dates
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well I think the city council just needs to come up with a process right So the as you indicated, the vacancy occurs July 31st. So that triggers under the city charter a duty and the charter uses the term duty to um try to appoint
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So the staff is proposing two approaches, a structured approach and a non-structured approach. Historically, the city council in this
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used a structured approach for the most part, where you put out an advertisement for seeking candidates to appoint um someone to serve.
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much time do you need if you're going to use a structured approach to put notice out there and give people an opportunity to submit qualifying papers to be considered for appointment?
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until uh after uh the first regular meeting after the vacancy, then you then you're left with only one meeting to a point
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I think that I think maybe that's what I
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might be saying so you would be setting an application deadline that really only allows the
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council
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one meeting instead of two instead of two. So you may want to give that some thought when if you if the council is inclined to use a structured approach, um what that deadline for applications is going to be.
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Okay, point taken.
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Yeah, um so when does qualifying
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the deadline for qualifying is on the 16th.
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okay so I had that wrong
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we've advertised it in Florida today um you know the general election okay
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Yeah, let's let's make sure we're talking about this the same thing ‸ we're talking about. I mean this is the the the the deadline for applying to replace the vacant slot we have is
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we put into the agenda item right
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so so so to fill
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may be the the, the deadline to qualify as a candidate to run for the seat. So those are the two different things. as you want to make sure we're
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application process which we've said that
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at the August 7th meeting and
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they also need to be qualified um by the city clerk um before we put them on the agenda
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She'd have largely a little over 24 hours to do that. But,
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the qualification period for candidacy for, to run for the seat.
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yeah so I
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someone ‸ a position of well, first of all, we have one person that ‸ has stepped up. um and just reticent to put someone in a position of being able to claim incumbency because we know how strong that is. So, um
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and would ‸ we really be looking at appointing someone that has no interest in the position long term?
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and i guess i know i'm a little confused so we are because i'm just reading this
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it before now um so we're proposing the 27th for the decision and
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the the charter says you have two meetings and so
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so that if you chose to select that that at the August 7th meeting you could do so
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the August 27th
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actually make the the pick. So
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It is the board's prerogative with regards to whether you are going to to say that you're going to try to pick on the 13th
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going to absolutely pick on the 27th. And we would just move the application uh deadlines as appropriate or as necessary.
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One other thought is because the timing of this is coming right up on, um um regular qualifying for, for the seat. um you know, if you, you're going to be setting a deadline for applicants for the appointment. It's just, just the thought
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the normal qualifying period. I don't know what confusion that may cause for candidates. um those ‸ that want to qualify to run and those that want to just qualify for appointment. a two set, you know, then you may get the same pool of candidates or you may not. You may. okay So if you're going to have two qualifying periods simultaneously going one for appointment and one for the normal election, I would just mention that the staff is really going to have to clarify that in the notices. So, so potential candidates don't get confused.
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mean, we have one person who has stepped up and I would hope, well, I would hope, you know, somebody at least has enough enthusiasm for the position that they would have considered. And considered it and, campaigned, which, brings them into contact with people. And have a better sense of what's going on at this dais right now in terms of the issues, which of course I know
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um I think three parts. So the first is the the the,
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know, concern ‸ for influence to election. uh I will always give deference to the voting population. So if I'm going to
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judgment. Democracy works. So if it doesn't produce
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So uh i no matter the concern of ‸ incumbent, not incumbent, and so forth and so on, i I make no bones about it. Being an incumbent can be good, but it can be horrible too. So that's political science and I won't go there. all i All I know though is that I will not fade away from the value of the democratic process that is going to happen on election day no matter what. So that that I have to leave for all it's good and bad. That's just the risk of democracy and that's a reality. uh And it's a good thing. um The the second would be from an appointment standpoint. i If I had my druthers, I would say wait until the end of qualifying for the seat. uh Mrs. Weeks has above and beyond shown her dedication to to to running for this seat. And so to your credit and service previous to the to the city, thank you on the Board of Adjustment Appeals. So to that end, you know that that that's easy. there But there may be other folks out there and and they are deserving of a chance. I think if I had my druthers personally, I'd say wait until the last day of qualifying when only one person qualified. Then boom, there's your answer. That seems very smart and I really like that. There's only one problem to that. Is that in our city charter and
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It's already written how we're going to do it. And in my mind, if you are a constitutionalist, the city charter is our version of that here at the city. And
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by the city charter for the purpose of doing what we said we would do, even though I don't like it. Unless there is a different interpretation of how we might be able to interpret the the shalls and the must do's
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this seems like a slam dunk no-brainer, easy decision,
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that is a tool and a rationale to really
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who don't have the power in the room. And I am vehemently opposed to setting that precedent. So even though it would make all the sense in the world, but I'm going to stick to the city charter of the must do's So if we have flexibility in the must do I would gladly make a motion to
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the day after qualifying. uh And I think that that would be great. If we don't have that flexibility, then so forth and so on. And I would also give staff, if they need time to reflect on that, time to reflect on that. But that's where I'm at.
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okay All right. um ‸ You're late. Yes,
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number two
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that candidate for appointment. Am I correct? Number two.
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um Number two, the staff suggestion
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that's a suggestion and recommendation. Right.
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But number one does not have a definite solid date for that application. So someone can actually come in
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on those particular days? No.
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I mean, one
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is a
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application for the appointment. In a less structured approach. Right.
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Okay. point Okay. Okay.
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So, and the charter does have a shall. You know, once a vacancy occurs, you know, the the
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shall, you know,
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the duty um at either of the next two regular meetings. So, the
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says either of the two next regular meetings. So, it doesn't even have to be the first meeting on the 13th. You can wait until the 27th. If you wanted to do that as well. So my point is, you know, if you were going to have applications, you know, you know, you don't need it by the 13th if the council's not inclined to consider the appointment on the 13th. But
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has to be a regular meeting,
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special meeting. so oh
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‸ really?
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Correct. That's what the charter says. And then
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that, you know, the charter does contemplate that, you know, the council may not be able to make an appointment. In that case, the charter directs the city clerk to have a special election um called. But the charter also has wisdom ‸ in that if the special election is or the general
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case it would be, there isn't a special election. that actually goes to the, jet you know, actually the election actually occurs at
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And in this case, you know, there's an intervening general election for seat number three
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So there's not even a need for a special election because under the normal schedule district three is up for a regular election anyway.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, it works out either way whether council makes a temporary appointment or if they fail to make an appointment, there will be a general election to fill district three regardless for a four-year term regardless. ‸ And the charter works.
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And we do have to attempt to make an appointment. It
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does say you have a duty. So, I mean, because the law doesn't favor a vacancy even for the shortest period of time. So, you know, if the council makes an appointment for a short term for for a few meetings and so be it. But if you can't come to an agreement, the charter also recognizes that may happen sometimes, then it goes to election
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of this process it's going to be a four team vote. Yeah,
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it's four because you can't
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the vacancy until the vacancy occurs. So
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which then triggers the duty at either of the next two regular meetings.
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Okay. Thank you.
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sir.
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Yeah, ‸ I. I would uh offer as a motion to bring it this and uh you know before I
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three times. all
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So uh my motion would be to move forward with an appointment on the 27th. Okay. For the council member district
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in accordance with our city charter. Okay.
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So that'd be number one, correct? That you're choosing the less
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process.
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And that it be advertised in accordance to the same process we used for advertisement previously. Okay. So that is not new. I
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can dig
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roll with it.
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motion?
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make sure she has it correctly.
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but
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so it's it's you're gonna ‸ select on August 27th you're gonna ‸ take applications we just need to determine when the deadline for those applications will be and so either way the the deadline is gonna ‸ be sometime in August we're gonna have to put a caveat on that deadline saying this is not the deadline for candidates who want to run for the open seat we're gonna have to come up with some sort of caveat in the advertisement to say that
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are we clear for discussion
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do we need a doing yes a closeout date sir are
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you
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looking for that
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the resignation is effective the 31st. If you if it if it's three weeks, what what what date is
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isn't it I mean if it's they're both on the same day I mean is the 20th enough time for the clerk to do it needs to be done yeah
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but the three weeks, three weeks is three weeks there you know it's it's gives people I
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gives the clerk six days to actually ensure that they're qualified. And
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caveat that this is not the the deadline for candidacy for,
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there This is the deadline associated with the replacement of the remaining term. Yada, yada,
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yada.
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just have to come up with a date that's not gonna confuse everyone
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you
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‸ just make it the 16th and which is a Friday right and then by the 27th we know if they're if they made the deadline for qualifying
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Right there you go okay
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okay.
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Well, it's fine.
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You make an amendment ‸ so okay
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you mean to your motion okay
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Just for clarification for those who may be watching online um attorney garden
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appointments is this is this
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something rare Or is
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it very common?
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Yeah, it's very common I mean to have a provision to appoint some of the fellow vacancy okay
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gotcha.
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and
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and and
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that's
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you know, that there's an election.
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that's right
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yeah takes care of it for you.
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And that's the democracy that he's ‸ Okay, is that it, sir? ‸ Yes, sir. Okay, ‸ Okay. We have a motion on the floor with the designated date. Motion on the floor by Councilman
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Goins just gonna call the question all in favor ‸ saying aye. Aye. eyes have unanimously. Okay, proceeding on to the next item, number four I'm going to recuse myself item number four and then
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I'll return
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on item number five okay is that correct Paisano
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yes mr. mayor that's the RFP for
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some you know previous okay
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thank you very much
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comments yes I ‸ would recommend that you just recuse yourself
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‸ sorry next item the next item we have is to authorize
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solicit proposals for the purchase and redevelopment of real property currently
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city redevelop sorry within the cocoa redevelopment area and I believe this miss miss Charlene Newtonman this
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is gonna be me mr. city manager so so this is again as you mentioned this is the RFP associated with the approximately five acres that is at the southern part of a Cocoa Village there. This is written to comply with the with the community redevelopment act and so it's an extensive RFP but ultimately at the end of the day it's an RFP requesting proposals for a mixed-use development ‸ on that five acre parcel. Again, the the the updated appraisal
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is
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attached for you, so you can see all the assumptions associated in there I think different than the last proposal that went out, where we actually have said that, hey, there may be some additional financial incentive incentive provided or considered if there is a public parking component. but But again, at the end of the day, this is to put out in the marketplace or on the street an RFP for a mixed-use development recall that the comp plan was amended to to include on this particular parcel
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a
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density of 125 units per acre I think you can only get to that density via development agreement mixed-use large building type and so RFP is attached
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any questions the council may have
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I'm sorry any questions of council
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close it out from the council open it up to the public if you would like to speak. Anyone would like to speak on this item, come up, make sure you submit a card. Seeing none, ‸ close it out from the public, open it back up to the council. What are the wishes of the council?
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Motion to approve.
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a second all in favor say aye aye any nays
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for a ten minute recess I need a second second All in favor by saying aye.
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aye Ten minutes. ‸ Yes. stole
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Let me come see you, bro. Come on up here, my friend.
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young to have arthritis, man.
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found ‸ that.
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Really? ‸ I couldn't see him.
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Yes,
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ma'am.
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glad
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This was fascinating.
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Thank you.
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Pleasure meeting you.
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No,
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no, no.
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Lady D.
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Look
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at me. He's out
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of town right now.
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I had to take my medicine this morning. Because I don't take medicine.
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So
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it's so different than it is.
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Yes. Well, thank you all for enduring.
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Thank you.
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You did a marvelous job.
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disagree
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here?
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know.
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thank you.
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Thank you very much. Well, you teenagers have fun. Remember you had a curfew. No, okay.
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Yeah,
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alright.
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‸ Thank you.
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A
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Enjoy. That's
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We
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You
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Okay. Do I need to go get him? I
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be
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in the
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restroom.
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That's a uniform. There he is. There he is. He heard us. I
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See
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tell you?
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was in that devouring food. Okay.
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Yes, sir. Chair, I'd like to make a motion to return to the meeting. And
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Second. Second by Deputy Mayor Hearn. Proceeding on to item number five, which I do support and endorse. I just had my God bless America paper in front of me. This
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‸ this Cocoa Hiking Trail is in
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honor
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of a gentleman that's in the audience. Come
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Okay. Anyway. Yes, we have it. No worries. No worries.
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got it in
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of me. Chair, I'd
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make a motion to approve the naming of this. Wait. Let me regress. That's what conservation is in your district. That's
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Yes.
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speak from the heart. Yeah. The Cocoa Conservation Area has been, by its very design, is the essence, I think, of where when you try to think about what is the best of Florida, where you have an opportunity to surround yourself with the ‸ most natural states of what Florida was and what Florida still is today while still having access for people to go explore, to go find, and for that area to ‸ remain what it was intended to be. The
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To
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for your leadership and stewardship on the Cocoa Conservation Area over the years. And to this council, thank you all for your continued engagement and to the development of that true treasure. Often in Cocoa, we talk about the diamond square. We talk about that is the Cocoa Conservation Area. Is a diamond the same, in my humble opinion? That being said, those stewards who would dedicate a lifetime of service to this city, in addition to an emphasis on things that we would never know if they weren't here, to share the history and the value, to help teach us the value of that very place. And so ‸ Mr. Stoll is, without a doubt, one of those gentlemen who has dedicated hours upon hours upon hours. He has a better track of maybe what that looks like. But from a volunteer service, it comes from a true place of heart. And citizenship is an example bar none. So to that, sir, I'd like to say thank you by all means.
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approve, make a motion to approve resolution 2024-070 renaming the Cocoa Conservation Area Hiking Trail to the Greg Stoll Conservation Area Hiking Trail with comments also from Mr. Stoll, if that would be okay, please.
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So, first thing was when, ‸ unfortunately, I had missed the trail reed dedication. Mr. Flew had me. But the week beforehand, when I had found out about this, I was worried about our friend the gopher tortoise. And there's quite a few of them up there. And, unfortunately, they like the high ground, which is the parking ‸ lot. So, with help from Public Works, they got me some stakes and some ribbon. And I went out there and I broke them things off. So,
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Probably the most encouraging thing that I had experienced in my time up at CCA, you know, and we experienced it here earlier tonight when we had all the kids here. Well, I'm at one of them
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this big. That is a good sign. So, we may not, you may not know much about them, but I can
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Okay. Okay.
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high and dry isn't really that prevalent and where it is. And it's on private land. The developers want to develop it, which they certainly have every right to do. But the city owns some of that land. Some of it is being a park right off of Michigan.
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you when they do their survey. So, I've been here, Matt, I've been here before ‸ talking about conservation areas years ago. And I believe what I asked you all to do, some of you are here, ‸ some have gone, some are new, to put the 50-year hat on or the 100-year hat on. Long past your service on the council. Because these are little glimmers of what used to be. And ‸ while they will evolve, because the natural processes of succession continue, even if we interrupt the natural fires and the flooding, right? You know, some say Florida only has two seasons, wet and fire season. So, but this is like a little glimmer. I mean, and I believe one of the other references I had was when I grew up down in Fort Lauderdale. Just north of Lauderdale was a small park in Oakland Park. And
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It's this little gem and
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it was
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mangrove swamps and everything and there's a boardwalk through it. And here you are in the middle of the city and you could walk down that trail and you were back in old Florida. Those are ‸ the things that when you talk about the gem, that's the gems. And let's not let them go while we're flourishing with a train and the development and hotel downtown. And God, wouldn't it be good to have a hotel by the train station and stuff like that. There's all of those good things. Let's
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There
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I think I kept within my
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three. I
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You're good. All right. Congratulations, sir. Thank you, sir. Give him a round of applause.
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Do you have someone with you there, young man? Then
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can picture for you.
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Oh, and if you don't know, my wife's ‸ The one in the center.
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Right here.
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the whole pass.
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good? Ready? Three. T. Okay, one,
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two, three.
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Guys,
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the trail. Right
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Here we go. Number
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Council
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and the city of Rockledge for school crossing guards. Yes, sir.
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I make a motion to approve? Second. ‸ Second on the floor. All
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Aye. Aye.
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unanimously. Proceeding on to the next item. Approve an agreement for water meters and meter reading equipment purchases with Ferguson Enterprise. LLC authorizing
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excuse me, 1,900,000 and request council to approve a resolution to wave competitive bid with Ferguson Enterprise LLC for the purchase of Neptune water meters and ancillary hardware required to support meter operation upon the adoption of fiscal year 25 budget. Mrs. Fulman.
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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is a routine item that we do each year. We use Neptune water meters and approval of this item will allow us ‸ to purchase water meters for the fiscal year beginning next year. We need to do this contract award right now because the contract actually expires in August. So this will allow us to purchase our water meters.
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Chair,
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Looking
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Second.
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All right. We have a second on the floor by Deputy Mayor Hearn. Chair's
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Aye. Aye. Aye's have unanimously. Proceeding on to item number four, multi-year with, sorry, what's
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Yes, sir.
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We're all right.
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Are you back in class?
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No, sir. We're good, sir. We're good.
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Negotiation,
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This item is a request for approval to change our piggyback contract that we're utilizing and use Brevard County's contract so we can achieve better interest rates and earnings credit
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you.
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Okay. ‸ Chair, let me make a motion to approve. Second. Okay.
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Chair's
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All in favor saying
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Aye.
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Aye's have unanimously. Okay. What's your public comment? Yes, sir. The only card I have is the military. Okay. That
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Thank you, sir.
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I put in two cards, one for this one and one for the... Which
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So I'm not asking to change the vote, Kristen, but what I wanted to comment on ‸ is that this was a walk-on item. This is added, lit, last minute ad. And ‸ there is some
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material on
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the backup for the online, so I like seeing that. That's not always there. But I just want to call out that this was an item that is a last minute ad and it's... The public needs more notice for these. This could have been something that was really controversial. So I want to draw attention to that and ask for the, you know, for the city to do the best I can to get the materials up online and available to the public.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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Mr. Mayor.
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Mayor.
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Yes, sir.
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met with the bankers last week.
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Yes, you met with the bankers and the bankers said that, Hey, you can be, you can get a earn more on your, on your money if you switch over to the, uh,
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contract. And my question was, can
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think the answer was yes. And so said that that deserves a walk on. And so that's the reason we put this on because we want to start earning that higher interest as soon as possible.
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Thank you, sir. Again, we've been good stewards of the taxpayer dollars, sir. We've been physical sound because our record financially speaking is clean and pressed team.
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‸ Okay. Moving on to this item approved. Yes. Is this ‸ correct? ‸ Yes. Approve
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the rollback rate approved. It
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millage rate for the purposes of notification
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appraiser and set
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2025 budget. So we're going to have to do date time and place. It also recommends, uh, excuse me.
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also recommended for the city manager to be instructed to complete the Florida Department of Revenue's certifications of taxable value forms. Dr.
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Yours truly. Mrs. Paul.
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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, this agenda item is something that we have to do every year in compliance with our, uh, trim statute. Um, so at this meeting, we're going to be talking about establishing the proposed, um, millage rate. So, um,
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Um, according to trim, we need to adopt that by August 4th. So this is the last meeting before August 4th. And then at the end of this presentation, you'll be requesting to set the first public hearing September 3rd, 2024, 6 PM here in, uh, council chambers, and that will be advertised on the notice of proposed property taxes or otherwise known as trim notice mailed to the taxpayers in August. So, um, this is a slide that shows us, uh, what our valuation is. We're
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We did experience a total increase in property tax ‸ values at 13.2%. This is showing you graphically that nice increase. And we've, uh, we've recovered since 2014. Um,
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Uh, this
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and our revenue collections in addition to the valuation. So with setting a millage rate at 6.9532 mills, which is the same millage rate as last year, uh,
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a statute says that, um, we need to, um, to, um, set a minimum to collect. And I'm sorry. I said, um, our total avalorum is $12 million. So
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So, um, this is showing you what your rate options are. You always have the option to go back to rollback rate, go to a maximum of 10 mils or go anywhere in between rollback rate, um, and the maximum millage rate. Um,
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been held,
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the city manager did prepare
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Um, again, um, just to remind you, uh, even though we have that nice increase in, uh, property tax collections, we have two CRAs. So we need to, um, share their proportionate share, um, of avalorum
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with them. So we're
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result of having them. Um, we usually compare ourselves to the other cities. There are several cities that haven't provided us the information yet. Um, but this slide shows you, uh, what other cities are doing relative to the city. Um, and it shows you again, that we're third highest in millage rate in the county, but, um, we're one of the lowest as far as property tax collections. So, um,
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Um,
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again, the first public hearing will be set September 3rd, 2024
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I would like to mention to you all that that will be a special meeting because the school board has their meeting on a regularly scheduled meeting date. So according to state statute, we can't hold trim hearings on the same date that they're holding hearings. Um,
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you, uh, what difference it would make to the, um, property owner. This is a slide that we normally provide. Um, that's
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what the impact would be
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Um, and with the millage rate, they'd be
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the entire year. Um,
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then this is showing you,
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again, with, um, a higher valuation in
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So the tentative proposed budget for general fund has been prepared. Um, the total is $54.3 million. As you can see, um, as.
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biggest portion of revenue, uh, for general fund is, uh, inter fund transfers and
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fund balance. And
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taxes and then charges for services and other government, other, uh, revenue sources. The capital by funding, um, as you will recall that we had at the last special meeting regarding budget. Um, there's some money, some, uh, items that are being funded, uh, with recurring revenue. And then, um, you had approved for the city manager to, uh, debt finance some of the capital. And you can see the capital that's being purchased by the different revenue sources on this slide. I
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future to request approval to proceed with that debt issuance so that I can start the ball rolling and get the paperwork and, and do the agenda items that are necessary to do that debt financing. Um, then in the water and sewer fund, the budget totals about $86 million. And
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the largest source of revenue is charges for services at about $80 million. And
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a special assessment. So
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So looking at citywide, the total proposed budget is about $173 million, which is about a $4 million increase from fiscal year 24. So
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the rollback rate of 6.3761 mills, approve the proposed millage rate of 6.9532. And to set the first public hearing date and time at September 3rd, 2024 at 6 PM here at city hall in the chambers.
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So we have to do a combination of both rollback rate and approve the.
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No, sir. This one is just establishing the proposed rate. And
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Okay. All right. I do have a card. Do we have any questions for Mrs. Uh,
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resident. So on the resolution that's being proposed tonight, one of the things that's not in the backup detail, unless you click on the resolution itself is the following statement. It says now, therefore, be it resolved by the city council of the city of Coco as follows. The, um, millage rollback millage rate is 6.3761. And it says the proposed millage rate for the city of Coco, Florida for the fiscal year ‸ 2025 is
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of 6.3761 mills. That is the location where it spelled out that we are actually going to be charged more taxes this year than we were last year because even though we're using the same millage rate, we're going to be getting more, um, coming into the city. And
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using the rollback rate? Like every time I hear Coco talk about millage rates, it's always about, well, should we do a millage increase this year or should we leave it the same? And
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just like to point out that just this very morning at our friends at the county, what they have done is, is they don't have to send up the trim notices. They don't have to bother with that because they are so close to the rollback rate that they don't have to send out notices. Like they're literally not doing hardly any, any portion of an increase. So
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budget that we, Coco
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then that is the fastest financial presentation I've ever heard in my life. So,
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a discussion, but y'all did have a discussion and you had a workshop on July 10th. And in that workshop, you do have a few slides. This presentation, I did not see online this presentation here. Now I'm going to have to go and get it from the clerk, but why can't this be available to the public in advance of the meeting where this decision is being made? But you do have some slides in here that do speak to budget things, but I don't hear a robust budget discussion that happens. I don't hear council members asking a lot of questions. I don't hear the public in here. And I would like to have more insight into the details of the budget to be more comfortable with why we need more money this year than we do last year. ‸ So I wanted to make sure that I brought forward the contrast of what the county does that they actually not only consider the rollback rate, but their rate is so close to it that they don't even have to send up trim notices.
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decided in any of your next two meetings to try to use a different rate, you would have to resend out the trim notices. So the decision you're about to make in just a couple of seconds, if you were to make a different decision during the hearings, your own paperwork says you have to resend out the trim notices. So this is a very important moment
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Thank you. And I'm available if there's questions. Yeah,
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will.
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Mr. Mr. Mayor.
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regardless of their rate. As a matter of fact, they're not even sending it out. Trim notices are sent from
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property appraisers office. And so regardless of where you are in relation to rollback, there is a trim notice that is going out per state statute. Um, we've given you. Uh, we've
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saw on the, uh, on the one of the slides that
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million dollars.
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salary increases, uh, cost of living items, um, equipment, um, insurance increases. That million dollars is funding all of those things.
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and so again, it is a matter of state law, the truth, um, reporting and millage is a matter of state law. Trim
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Um, and again, um, very easy to explain what you don't get to fund in a budget when you don't have. Uh, that million dollars.
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Mayor, um, I would also like to make your correction that you're correct. We do need to be establishing the rollback rate with this resolution.
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Teamwork
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And I appreciate you.
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All right. We're gonna, I believe in you all, and I believe in the city of Cocoa. And again, we're gonna ‸ be good stewards of, uh, the taxpayer dollars. Uh, we've seen crimes go down. We've seen, uh, occupations where we have, um, employment both in the fire department at its max and also in the police department and safety. So clearly beyond
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yes, you all know the rest of that story. So, um, I will hear
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Uh, thank you. So, um, there is a responsibility as a citizen to, to, to care for what it is that, that you want to be involved with. So, absent
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citizen. If there are questions on what that means, reach out to your council member. It is incumbent on a citizen to be informed. Uh, and so whatever responsibility is there, it is not the responsibility of the dais to explain every single, uh, verb that is, or word that is in there. If there's confusion, I can understand that, but that is not the responsibility. That is why you elect people who hopefully understand what these words mean and therefore can communicate that. And as an informed citizen, if you want to come up, speak onto it, that's great. So putting
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see the need for that. Uh,
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if you ever watch their meetings, they are atrocious generally. Uh, we
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speak to people with disdain. I mean, absolute disdain. It's really disgusting to be quite frank and they degrade people, uh, horribly who, you know, there. So as far as the effect of our county governance, I'm glad not to be the example, uh, that they often set. There's some highlights in there sometimes, but to be frank, you know, Mr.
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feel, I feel sorry for people often when they go and speak with him, although he's serving. Uh, the other part is that, uh, in,
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city manager, you might be able to help me out. Every time I go to, or every time I watch a county meeting, I see a fire department that talks about closing stuff and people coming up, firefighters talking about pay. How are we doing with our staffing with our fire department?
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Yeah. And we, we went over this at the, uh, at the, uh, a couple of meetings ago, the fire department, we have probably two vacancies. Now, I
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actually holding a vacancy for the next, uh, high schooler. So fire department, technically two vacancies, one of which we're actually creating, uh, holding open. For, uh, for the high schooler, um, in the police department, I want to call it, uh, after
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through the academy, I want to call it two or three, but, but okay. So two, those are significant accomplishments in this day and age when everybody's fighting for that same staff resource. And so we're very proud of, of, uh, where the council, uh, what the council has done and where we are in terms of those vacancies.
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So, and, and also, sir, when I go out to the groves, a lot of unpaved dirt roads. I know I go up to Mims,
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and in fact, I think that we've had quite a few people in here off
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on. And
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on. So, sir, how many miles of unpaved roads do we have in the city? Do we have any ballpark on that there? Are we pretty close to actually having paved roads in our city?
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have one or
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think we might have a couple and they're very short segments of road.
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Yeah. So, and, and, and I mean that respect, I really do mean that respectfully. So the question is where's the money going? I think that comparatively it's pretty easy to point out that there are different levels of service standards between the county and the city of Coco. Our service standards are much better. I will, I will take that to the bank. I
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They're so broke. And
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take that to county commission. I've
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oh, we're so strapped that, you know, we can't afford transport for some reason they won't do that. So again, I
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we have a station coming in. We have big things that I think that you can see. We have staff that are not leaving, which is fairly, I think that's great. And those are the headaches we're not dealing with. So I I'm glad to, I, while I am here, there's a fundamental discussion on if you're raising more taxes by not, you know, rolling back millage. That's a philosophical thing. Yeah, we get more money coming in. I know that guidance to council that guidance to city manager.
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to do not cut employee benefits. And to that end for this council member, that is exactly what's happened. So I say, you know, good job. Thank you.
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Okay. All right. Well, that closes ‸ portion to the public and return it to council. I just want to verify this. Mrs. Bowman city manager and city attorney. ‸ Just want to make
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A okay. Is that all right? Mrs. Bowman.
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Yes, sir.
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Yes. Yes. Yes. Thank you. ‸ Thank you very much. City manager.
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Thank you very much. So now what we have to do is establish the date. That's the first thing. Correct ma'am.
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Yes, sir.
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a special meeting because there is a conflict with the school board and it's going to be at yours truly 65th stone street. Is that correct ma'am?
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Yes, sir.
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Okay. So chair would like to make a motion to approve this portion of the first part of the ‸ two items that we
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Beautiful downtown. Coca
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Mayor, if you could approve the resolution establishing the roll back in the millage rate.
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Right.
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First. And then
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resolution also has the hearing date too.
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Yes.
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So the resolution is complete with the information that the council is required to approve at this stage of the budget ‸ process.
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So approve the
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resolution.
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just approve the resolution. Chair would like to make a motion to approve the resolution establishing the roll back rate of
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One approve the
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the city of Coco council chambers. And I'm looking for a second. Second. I got a second on the floor by deputy mayor. So
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by saying aye. Aye. Any nays? Ayes have ‸ unanimously. Thank you very much. Anything else ‸ before I go on to the next item, the final and last item for tonight, which is for the
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That's all for tonight from the finance department, sir.
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Thank you kindly ma'am.
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Um, we have, thank you. Thank you, sir. We have a proposal just to make it, and I'm going
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turn your light on,
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if we don't apply
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And I'm in favor of these grant application to provide
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excuse me, 31st, pardon me. Today is the 23rd. So we have eight days quick ‸ time on time on Mr. Walsh for the Indian
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Now I'm in favor of this. Mr.
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Mr. City manager, would you like to elaborate on this particular item?
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Um,
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This is just again, as you said, I'm still
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Um, sort of the chicken and egg argument here. Um, our issue here. Um, as you're aware, the council has not given us any direction with regards to whether, um, we ultimately are going to pursue, uh, uh, septic advanced septic versus sewer. But again, um, pursuing dollars that may be available and then ultimately having to come back to that discussion on, uh, on the policy issues that are still left unanswered.
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I have a question. I,
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advanced septic or the proposed septic to
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Because that's still pending. Why would we seek another grant? If we haven't been able to make the other decision, we didn't get the funding, right? Because we were trying to get an allocation direct that didn't happen. So that's that main issue as to
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other method. Or we should release it and do advanced septic, which would put it into a whole other category and other funding related to save our Indian river lagoon. I'm just wondering why we would seek. ‸ Do we believe that the next grant would would completely cover? Or do we, or do we have any idea what, what that, what we're doing here with respect to how much we're going to ask for relative to the project? And if we get it or if we don't. So is the
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gap. Is that, is that the idea?
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‸ Yes,
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ma'am. Okay, but excellent question. Give it one second.
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will acknowledge you. Just for safety measures, Esquire
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even though I know it's a grant and I comprehend it
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just want to protect her so that it's not a conflict with her if she votes on this. ‸ I think
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she's prepared to just state again her voting conflict. Because
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But I would like to give a background on this and answer this question.
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First you ‸ need to just advise that you're going to be
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accusing yourself from voting. on
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Not because it's a corruption thing, but because I live there and stand to gain. Or in this case, lose as compared to the homeowners. But, is that good? Yes. And I'll do a... You
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have to just fill out the standard form.
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Okay.
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Form 8, I believe. Well,
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I'm sorry that the mayor left. I appreciate his support. I wasn't expecting that. But,
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was at the Save Our Indian River Lagoon meeting last Friday. As you know, I sit on that advisory board. And I was advised that the dollars that we received, additional dollars that we are eligible for from the commission, had a stipulation. Remember,
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and ask for more dollars. It's like, I forget what the dollar amount is. It's
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it's over a half a million dollars. I was advised that, and that money will be announced by the end of the year. And that incentive, that half a million dollars, the stipulation was that we seek funding by the end of two years. The end of those two years is coming up. And I was advised that, unless we show some good faith, that offer is going off the table.
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Actually, I believe that letter
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to go 12. It
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was a contingency that was
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I believe it was only 12 months. That,
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I don't know that, it doesn't have any caveats about whether we should seek additional grants or whether the, even if the grants would even count. ‸ What that says is that we would put that project into motion. That project is not in motion. And it's not, it's still in deadlock with Council.
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So. Please let me, please let me finish. Um, Mr.
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Witten,
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do you have the letter? Because I wasn't prepared. I didn't know I was going to be presenting this like a
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brief letter. I'm not sure that the, the, even the revised letter captures what the actual intent of the motion was there, but it, but it is actually to, to use the money within a two year period. And so it is actually to encumber that money towards the project within a two year period.
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Okay. So, and of course these grants, of course, we've been talking about this for a couple of years. We
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We've got a lot of decisions to make in regard to the, um, hooking up the quick connects and, um, if we're going to upgrade septics or go from septic to.
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Um, I didn't know I was going to be presenting it. I would have done this a little bit differently. I actually, Rob, if you have my slides, I actually have a slide that addresses, uh, at least the, the law ‸ changes. So, um,
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a significant, uh, a significant increase in water quality. ‸ Very good sign for the
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this year. Better than we've had in many years. Um, we also got a report on groundwater monitoring and on the projects that we have been able to successfully complete. showing significant differences in nitrogen collection. Okay. So,
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We know we're on the right path. We know we've got 60,000 subjects in Brevard County. Um,
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And I won't give a report tonight.
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Councilman
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to,
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Did you have something? Um,
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I was going to read the memo. I, I, I still think it's wrong, but let me just, let me just read the, uh, ‸ the memo. Uh, ‸ the clerk. For the county commission, uh, provides an action memo of each item on the agenda after each meeting. And so this was the,
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Our request for additional funding for, uh, J and K. Uh, this is to re this is to correct the memorandum of October 26. 2022,
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in regular session on October
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and K septic to sewer project with a caveat to
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Otherwise the city will have to reimburse the county. Um, and that's that completes the, uh, the memo there. There
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county for because we haven't drawn down anything. And so I think the memo
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a little off there. I think the frustration for, um, well, let me, let me let you do go over here and then we can come back to that
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some action. The deadline has been extended
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July 31st. The, I think the announcement comes out in October of who gets those grants, right? Or later this year. Um,
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so anyway, I just brought that to Mr. Witten's attention. Um, we know we've been having this conversation for a couple of years. Um, we've been, as you said, chasing the money. Um, you know, some things have changed. It's, we now have a lot
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Of course, you're fully aware of it. Um, because we have, you know, our report due, um, on August one, our, our assessment, of our system and our
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plan,
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Since we are in the IRL protection program. We know that those on septic are either going to have to upgrade, uh, their septic tanks, or they're going to have to be connected to sewer by 2030. Um,
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the,
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grant, the local match. Um, and let's see. I apologize.
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wasn't prepared to
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this. Um, yes. Okay. So the very top bullet is the one that,
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consider the feasibility of providing sanitary sewer services for developments of more than 50 residential lots. So,
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uh,
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have to
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Um, so even if we were to make a decision, it, it really boils down to this. We just lose that half a million on the table.
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you know, or we test those waters. I'm not sure how difficult that grant application is, but I
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And that, um, we
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decision based on that. Again, the reason upgrading septic is great. You've got a conventional septic. It's brand new. It, uh, captures some 30% of the nutrients that will last a couple of years. And then it will downgrade from there. It
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captures nitrogen 65%. What it doesn't capture and why it's not preferable, it doesn't capture phosphorus, which is another big issue for the lagoon.
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also understand that that whole ridge that we're on is sandy. Um, it's a sandy ridge and it's porous, you know, it's the coquina. And so excess nutrients have easy pathways to the lagoon. And we know, particularly after last Friday's meeting, we had confirmed even more, um, the opportunity here to prevent those pollutants from going in the water to begin with. Um,
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bringing it to your attention. Um, if we decided not to apply for it, we'd just lose that half, that half million would be off the table. We still
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I can tell
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connects done, which is only about a third of the dollars that are available. So there's quick connect money available. There's also, we've done 488 septic upgrades, which again is only about a third of the dollars available. Um,
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do a lot with those lots. You can't do a lot with those lots. And so much of it is dedicated to the separate field. So there are lots of considerations.
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again, this infrastructure is really important to economic development and the sustainability of our community.
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Um, ‸ I know Mr. Walsh, you wanted to say something for you. Do you have anything to say?
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No, sir. I'm good. Thank you.
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I think so. Does anyone have any questions?
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Thank you.
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a couple of one to a point of personal privilege. You're
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Yeah. Thank
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you. All right. Uh, yeah, thank you. So, um, I'm gonna ask council to meet the moment. Um, and so
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Uh, so first off, uh, Mr. Walsh, thank you for holding us accountable for doing our job, which is to vote on things. Uh, I appreciate that. Thank
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good sign of a leader, um, is to push push. Right. Uh,
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Uh, my, my take is this, and I'm gonna make a motion momentarily, but my motion is to move forward with advanced septic through the entirety of the B map. Uh,
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to the exclusion of just the J and K area, because as we talk about J and K, we leave out hundreds of other houses who face the same issue that are required to do the same thing. So
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big project. Maybe it's not a big project. I'll,
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even on its best face, it leaves. Another half of the area with no plan whatsoever and no money to do anything. So what do those people do, which is we have no plan for that. So I think that the answer is me on advanced septic. It's achievable within the next five years, which is the intent of what's being met. And
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something along that effect where everybody has skin in the game. So
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as discussion. So maybe council feels that we would help cover 80%. Maybe council feels that. So we would pay for an 80% rebate for a homeowner that would go out and get the advanced septic, right? Something along those lines. So everybody in the B map goes, we agree. We may not like it, but we say, here's a plan for the entire B map area, which is part of this requirement. Not
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It moves forward with something that we could rebate through funds. I think
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some, some kind of a ‸ match with homeowner. That would be my motion.
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away.
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Um. Through your motion, she cannot vote. So, can he make that motion? You understand what I'm saying? Is that correct? Does that create a conflict, sir? Okay. But he's making a motion now. I'm just so used to people just maybe going in the audience or going out the room or sitting in the back as
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done in the past. That's all I'm saying. I mean,
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don't mind her having the dialogue and I support that. I'm just trying to make sure that she's protected. Okay. Can
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Um, he's made a motion.
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Yeah, the, um, from what I understand, the staff is currently involved in preparing the final report for FDEP,
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that is an inventory, um, and just a better understanding of, uh, where we are and what needs to be done by this deadline. Um, I would, uh, there are more decisions here that I get that we should be making it point order at night.
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So first off, and, and I mean this respectfully because I, I believe that you have something to offer of which you, you have and you have for a very, to your credit, you have advocated when appropriate for ‸ a very long time. My,
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If, if, if we recuse and whatever that means, and, and I'm okay with whatever way that goes, all I'm saying is at what point does this become? If I'm okay. I'm
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but to be frank, I'm okay with being more informed. So I'm okay with that. But that does not seem like that has been the process that we have used since I've been on the dais. So I mean that respectfully, I'm not trying to make one project where we can hang out and then this is the
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ethically struggling with that right now.
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Okay. For example, here's something I could vote on. And that has to be considered when you're looking at this whole thing, the whole idea that, you know, we need to decide on those that are already have service available, the rules
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on the last paragraph on the first page, the
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Well,
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we need to, and, and this is, this would be reflect, it would mirror what the state does, the state's law on this. Our ordinance would just need to mirror that. And the county, as well as most of the other municipalities are moving in that direction. So if you have sewerage available under these new laws, um, you will be connecting. And
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So I think it's more than a vote at 10, 20 at night. That's
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considering this is going to impact our
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Okay.
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That's what, I got a question. I'm
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to come
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give me your legal opinion right now, pertaining to what's transpired right now. Just give me your legal opinion.
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Conversation we're having right
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now. A
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Yes sir, in
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Because
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when I get your opinion, then I'm going
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to
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ask Mrs. Bowman and Jack Walsh and the city manager, do we have the money to cover?
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Well,
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And, you know, you seem to be suggesting that the city somehow participate financially in contributing to a, a, a, a septic conversion to more advanced septic for, um, a variety of people,
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Um, whether or not the, that the city has the money to consider that funding. I don't even know whether or not the
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And,
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if that's
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the case, where
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does
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the money come from? I
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Yeah. Examination. Before
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Yeah.
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so if I, if I could, uh, piggyback on that. So,
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reimbursed with regards to going there, um, that reimbursement is only available for those, um, houses that are in the J and K. And not for the houses that are in the B map, which we don't know how many people in the B map are still on, uh, the old septic, I'll call it. Um, and so we'd have to determine what that
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And I think the, uh, uh,
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the
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Well,
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and K would have an ability to at least get part of their expenses reimbursed through through a sorrow. Um, but the
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from the sewer water or from the utility. And so we're back into the equity, the equity of, of, uh, ‸ funding those folks there. And so again, we don't know what that cost is.
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don't know how many, uh, of those, uh, of those, uh, systems are still out there. But again, that may be a huge cost for the utility system.
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because
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there may be hundreds upon hundreds of, uh, those types ‸ of properties still out there. So it is a little different discussion. It
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of the conversion from septic to advanced septic.
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but
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uh,
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the other folks outside of that and within the B map. I think what the council members suggestion is, ‸ is that they be funded in whole or in part by the utility system. And correct me, sir, if I got that wrong.
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Yes, is the short answer. But I'd be happy to come back to that.
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Yes, I got it right or wrong.
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Yes, sir. Yes,
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have it right. Okay. I'm happy to come back to it. Yep.
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would you tell you, are you reinstating or you just inadvertently left your light on?
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Yeah. I
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Thank you, ma'am. Okay. Councilman
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from ‸ the motion from a motion that I would propose. Adam, ‸ I would be definitely willing to, if we need to drop the reimbursement portion. If that if if we can't get there, then okay, but I think at a minimum, we should give to staff directional and we're going advanced septic in the B map area. That that's the direction we're headed. That
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But if we can't agree that there'll be some burden to the utility or to what percentage that might be, because at the end of the day, whatever, whatever may be missing, we are years into this discussion. Uh, we know that governor DeSantis totally vetoed any assistance. So to our governor, keep that in mind. I just for what it's worth. So there is no relief coming. So ultimately, the, the, the Florida State legislature went ahead and said, let's try it. And the governor vetoed it. There is no magic bullet coming. So that
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100 houses that fiscally doesn't jive with me. That being said, what's the best way to tackle this entirety of the area? Who's all part of the deal. We get a percentage of reimbursement on only a little, but that doesn't exclude a responsibility that I feel that we have at a minimum that we have to service the entirety of the area. That
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like, what way are we going? Are we going to go dig up pipes? I think is a bad idea. Or at a minimum, can we agree to meeting at advanced septic, which is a viable option per the this outline? Right? It's not like this is a, you know, a made up thing. It
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One is incredibly ungodly expensive and digs up the entirety of the place. The other one has also been deemed environmentally appropriate for a much shorter cost where we can service more people. It's that easy.
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So,
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and that's where I would rest my emotion at a minimum to provide staff guidance that will be moving forward with advanced septic in the B map area.
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Thank you very much, sir.
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Thank you.
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Councilman
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Yeah, I mean, I understand where he's coming from, but at the same time, I'm just, I'm because of so many unsure answers and questions.
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Um,
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‸ the dollar amounts, that's what I'm concerned about. I don't want to put the city in a situation where we make a decision such as this without having those dollars without having the information available. Cause I'm from what I understand. Apparently right now we don't have all of that information available about how much this cost, how much, how many separate tanks are we talking about?
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don't have, am I wrong for saying that Mr. Walsh?
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I think I have, I'm trying to find it. I have an exhibit where we've done the analysis to try to identify who's on, who's on septic and who's not. So I'm
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total cost, we don't have it.
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If we're looking at an advanced septic, I mean, I think the number
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And then each residential, uh, each house can go out
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Well, yeah. If
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you
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not. And that's the area where I think we're really focusing on
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that's the area that has influence to the Indian river lagoon. Right. That's
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mean, there are septics, you know, all the
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but certainly the folks that are west of or east of a US one, Carlton terrace and all those
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river. Just a few blocks away. The
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Aaron
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There are a couple of hundred other folks in there for Carlton terrace and all the other areas. Highland and all that other area up in there that don't qualify. And then in the way that
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least the Indian river portion, not the DEP stuff, but the Indian river is also prorated based on distance. As you get further away, you get less money because they're saying as you get further away, you don't contribute as much. But in the end, I do agree that, hey, if there's DEP money, but the council still hasn't decided, you know, if we're going to go to a advanced septic system, then it's going to be for
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like, go, let's put everybody in the same pot and go for some
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money and then try
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to offset it with what we can do and have to make some decisions related to that. If you want to get more complicated and you want to separate the J and K from it and continue to pursue that and try to do this. Now you've got two different things and two different potentially applications because those are not going to be the same ask. I don't know if that makes sense.
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that number was 18,000 per per installation there that you could be reimbursed. And
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there may be an opportunity for reimbursement, but it ‸ is at a reduced or prorated rate. Yeah,
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really zero. ‸ Okay. For away for some of them to pay because it shifts, but you know, those guys along the edge get almost nothing. People
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who are right up against the river and maybe the one lot behind it, depending on how long the lot
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but yeah, if
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they have a map and you can click on a parcel to tell you exactly what the reimbursement is. It's right on there for you. ‸ And
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so again, ultimately it
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they, does the city not contribute anything and they go for the 18 that
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map or anybody who's on septic to sewer from the utility? Do you also cap it at 18, 18 times hundreds of homes still significant? Yeah. And Mr. Mayor, I heard you talk about the 11 o'clock deadline. Uh, I think it got a little ‸ warm in here cause
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air shut off there.
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so we're trying to keep the systems up there, but I just want to, want to make you all aware of that. So
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are overheating because of the, I think the air turns off at a particular point in time each night.
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Yes, sir. Yeah, right now. Yes.
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already, we were supposed to submit a preliminary, but this is, this was with the, this is ‸ basically to give the state so that they can look at all the needs to determine what the funding needs are going forward.
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a
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was put into the lagoon program this year. I
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money going into this program by the state absorbing
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Of meeting those. We
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we know there's money there right now. Anyway, I still think it's a late hour to be determining something so important that has such a big impact, certainly on my constituents and yours. Without there even being aware that we're talking about it really.
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I'm the mayor because
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cover all districts so it impacts me as well.
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you know, use great discernment when commenting because it's not fair. Be fair and equitable. So, thank you. Well,
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So, you know, when you look at the trend, there's been more money spent, not less, more money invested because we know this is such an issue because we know that even advanced septic does not cover phosphorus and we know that's a big part of the problem. So,
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if you're laying a line down Indian
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you have opportunities at later dates to capture other parts of that neighborhood. So, it actually, in almost all of these cases, it's kind of a starter to get the septic sewer program going and then expanding it as you go. Just like I'm sure ‸ we may have other places in the system where it makes sense, it's a short amount of pipe or whatever, just to lay a pipe. So,
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again,
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where lots are small and irregular, you run into all sorts of issues trying to place a septic field.
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Mr.
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No, I mean, I have a bunch
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Mr.
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we're
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you
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you good?
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Yeah, I just don't know. We have this discussion, but ‸ where is this agenda item coming from today? Is
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grant? Is that the only reason why? Okay.
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That's it.
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So, I mean, you could easily do nothing, and then, you know, you're still, we're still, I understand that report that you're working on is still going to be coming back to us with all the information
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need to make a more informed decision.
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Jack, question. Yes, sir. If
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Does it have enough to cover the work or the labor and the material?
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That's the same
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which is, I don't think I can tell you what
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A year ago, two years ago, six months ago, and today, I really don't.
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don't, and that's the fundamental problem. So, what I was trying to, when I was trying to make my point earlier was simply, when I was trying to encourage council that there was no decision made because there's some complex issues. Complex because it's not just digging pipe and ground. It's digging pipe through coquina rock that runs along a ridge along the Indian River Lagoon. And that comes with some huge unknowns and huge risk for construction. You know, in general, when public works or utilities does a project, we come up with an engineer's cost estimate that's usually fairly close, but even that, sometimes they come up short. We have to go back and find funding. We have to keep going. In this case, we've identified, you know, there's a pretty big range that could vary by millions of dollars. Not a few hundred thousand,
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millions. And so that's where the, well, what do we do if we get this grant? Who's going to make up the difference if it goes up? If it goes under, no problem. But we still have to have a plan, I think, before we accept the dollars in order so that we,
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the citizens know how money is spent. Is the utility going to pay for anything or a portion? Okay. That needs to be decided. And
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the citizens going to be responsible to pay for
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that They can
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have skin in
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‸ Are they on the hook and what percent do they pay? We don't, we may not know the total, but if we can decide on percentages, that would be ‸ certainly a good start. And then we can go for whatever grants we can, supplement whatever percentages we have. ‸ That's a plan. And ‸ that was sort of presented, not the percentages themselves, but the ideas were presented in the previous five or six agendas that have come before this Council over the West, you know, however
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they ‸ still remain on the same on the agenda because we haven't been able, we've been deadlocked. We haven't been able to decide. And so right now we've got the 88 lots locked up in septic to sewer money, which is separate than the advanced epic. It's, it's part of save
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‸ but they're two different pots of money. And that's why we've had some people come in and complain that, hey, I want to go to advanced septic, but they can't because we're holding the 88 lots in limbo because we haven't decided to apply and take the money from save
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and move the project ‸ forward. Because there's a lot of unknowns with respect to the total price tag and who would pay for the overages if the DEP
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up short.
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I guess tonight, if we
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to go forward, I guess I would, I mean, city manager maybe could guide this a little more, but as a staff member sitting here, I just want to know, okay, what's it going to apply to? And who's going to pay for what that's, that's fundamentally what I would, I guess I would want to know. And if we understood that, then let's apply
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If we get the grants and we still don't know, we still have an argument or still have a deadlock. I think we're going to have some trouble. Uh, certainly it would have to be worked out before we have any of the other deadlines. And, and again, I apologize. I thought the deadline was 12 months for the extension from the county. And
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we're 12 months into it. Right. So ‸ we have another 12 months to decide how to expend
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But
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There's a cycle with respect to the DEPs and we certainly don't want to miss the cycle.
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know what that amount is. I forget what the, what I think I gave,
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figure. Um, I think we projected that, that the, uh, that the, the overage ‸ at one particular point in time could
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And so that's why we sort of swag the number to ask as a, as a legislative appropriation. And
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amount, you know, something, something, uh, North of 5 million. And,
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in the ballpark. We don't know where that number is. And ultimately you have to come back to the council and we still have the same questions that need to be answered. You know, the same policy decisions that have to be made, you know? Um, and so, you know, you're asked for a big number, you lose the additional funding, but, but, uh, you know, uh, in some respects. So, so what, because again, you, you still don't know the
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it doesn't, we won't know until we have those policy questions answered and we're actually able to put the, um, the, uh, the project out to bid. So, so again, we could go for the funding funding. I
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doesn't make the project because again, we still have all of those. And I think I looked at the previous agenda item and so we've, we've revisited this, this issue. One, two, three, four, five, maybe six times. Um, yeah,
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and the egg. Jack was a little bit more, uh, explicit and, and, and, uh, the frustration there. But, but again, so, so we, you know, those questions still have to be answered. I
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swag the ask in the grant, but we're still going to be back here asking you to make those, uh, decisions that are, that are necessary.
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Is
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councilman Barrett.
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Uh, and this will be, this will be my last one. So,
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potentially encumber money that could be used for the lagoon somewhere else for us to not have a decision and plan made to guide staff and direction. I think that that's wrong.
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money could be used someplace else to be doing the work it's supposed to do and we encumber it to go, well, I'm not sure. That's not good leadership to be frank.
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and again, and I mean that respectfully as a
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So, uh, this is this, you know, fifth time, sixth time, I, I would welcome, uh, you know, to put it back on an agenda item in a later instance. But quite frankly, I think that we have heard anything that we need to know about the same
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complete the project. Three, it rips up an old area for sure. Uh, four, it doesn't address the entirety of the B map. So there's still policy questions after the fact that being said, uh, you're as council members, you're gonna ‸ have to make a call one way or the other, because at this point we are being indecisive at best. Well, and I mean that as a body, so I am part of that. Uh, and so happy to bring it back if you don't feel comfortable with making a motion with the information that you know, I know that meeting with Mr. Walsh when I first got on the
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this was something that that I discussed, uh, and something about a hybrid program and, you know, so on. And
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multiple millions of dollars? Or
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area? And I'm not even talking about necessarily doing a reimbursement. I'm
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map, you you're going to advance septic. That's an option. So
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So the question is, do you plan on laying pipe for a few and potentially doing
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advanced
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septic later on down the road or doing pipes? But you only have five years. So if you got kids in college, good luck coming up with that 15 grand. So
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out with less time to deal with it. So I don't know how long we want to wait. So that's all I'll say about that. I,
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staff that the council's intent would be to move forward with advanced septic throughout the B map area and leave it at that. And then any further questions could come back at further discussions.
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We have a motion on the floor by councilman. ‸ Looking for a second. Second. Okay.
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have a second on the floor by councilman goings with discussion.
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have your light on.
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So far as far as the financial side of it, what's your suggestion for that?
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My suggestion would be then that would be the ongoing discussion that we continue to have with staff past this point. Step step one is just, are we doing septic or are we doing? Are we, are we doing pipes? ‸ Are we doing advanced septic? And how are you going to address the whole B map? So at a minimum, I'm going to put it at a quarter percent of what it costs to do pipes for the entire area on, on the advanced septic. I think
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you know, the, the potential eight to 12 million that it might cost compared to a advanced septic at 15,000 times or 30,000 times the 100 houses, the ‸ septic was down to about a quarter of the potential
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So, ‸ so on, so we're going to eat costs either way, potentially, or maybe not. I
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I'm just saying, which way are we going? And I haven't heard one. I haven't heard to member costs. I've heard you talk. And
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everybody else who has the same requirement. It, it, it, we just don't get reimbursement from it to your point, the further away you are. So I think you bring back that discussion on how do we even get to that. And if for some reason, if we hit a grant worth millions of dollars that covers
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out of the blue, which it seems like that's what we keep waiting for, then God bless. But I don't see it happening, especially again with the governor vetoing it. That means we are not in favor of that kind of project for the lagoon specific to the governor. That's my take.
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have a motion. On the floor by councilman Berger and
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Now you have your light on councilman. Okay. Now, so there's only the four of us voting on this. Just
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call the question.
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Water grants. Stone.
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Water grants. Stone.
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Water grants. Yeah. Okay. What the motion that he made is not pertaining to that that that's your card is pertaining to water grants.
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This item. That's
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That's what we announced.
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Come on, ma'am.
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The reason that I put water grants on my card is because that's how it was announced at the beginning. It was not announced as this is going to be a
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item. So it's unsettling because there's not people in the room to represent this particular topic. So I always start with the process. And the process is that there is zero information online about this. Nobody knew anything until the agenda item was added to the agenda. There's
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had no idea that this was going to be discussed. And I'm very unhappy that a decision that could adversely affect people who care about this matter are not represented. So I would really like to say that, that this is, you know, ‸ part of the reason for the indecision is because this is not an easy topic. But additionally, there hasn't been a lot. I mean, Coco, when you guys get in line with getting information up online and giving people options, there are options and it's easier. It's not always clear, but it's easier. There's nothing in this online about your discussion about the dollars. And when it comes to the decisions on the Sorrel Grant, there's gridlock. We really have gridlock because we have the gridlock of utilities saying we need certainty. We want to know we can't provide the exact amount, but we need to know that other people are going to pay for it. The citizens are divided. They're in gridlock because there's some that are very pro, some that are very against. They're not all in alignment and council is divided on the matter. So in ‸ all of that, the thing has been, ‸ has been kicked down the road. But at the same time, it's a very supportable, you know, ‸ getting sewer into that is a supportable as a whole ‸ project. And what I'm concerned about is, is that the triggering event is the grant money that we're afraid that we're going to lose out on some grant money because I'm not making a 10
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a Tuesday night where the stakeholders are not in the room. So I'm troubled by that when, if you having to make a decision, it
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mean, the worst that can happen is use.
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for and that fall by the wayside. But you could have some pretty unhappy citizens who find out that you bypass money because of this and they didn't have the chance to be here. So to me, it's ‸ either go for the grant or hold a special meeting where people can come, put it on. If it can't be in the next agenda, then it'd be a special meeting. But I
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them. To
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But this agenda item seems to be about these grant, this, you know, I'm
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I just want to speak up on behalf of the people that aren't in the room tonight, that you're about to make a decision on their behalf. And I don't feel that enough information has been disclosed. And so and by the way, I did misspeak. I
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my prior
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I just want to own that the trim. Yes, everyone has to send out a trim, but it's a notice of the tax increase. So I'm owning that. But the
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Thank you.
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The trim and the notice of the tax increase can be one in the same thing.
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Okay, we have a motion on the floor by Councilman. The
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‸ call a question. I want to say aye.
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to make a motion to go out for grants. See if we can find any grant money. And after
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We can come back and have another discussion in regards to the other homes that are located in the B map. And because we'll have a certain number, we'll be able to at least, you know, try to come up with an estimate and go
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be able to hear from citizens if they have any concerns and I'll be able to make a more informed decision on this matter.
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Just clarify. So you saying you saying for them just for staff to go for
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‸ Just this item.
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so, so it would be to submit, um, for the water quality improvement grants. Yeah, can the Indian River Lagoon water quality improvement grants for the Indian River Drive septic to sewer conversion, which is,
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guess I could ask the question of if we're going to do that. Do we also apply for? Uh, septic to advance septic grants for, uh,
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we, when we were initially looking at the number
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And so if, if, if you suppose that, uh, right
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so if you said that you would do the same thing for those, for those homes there, and
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That's eight point eight million dollars. Um, and so I guess, I guess I would suggest that if, if, if
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go for the grants for, for everything. They can be separate grants, but, but again, try to try to cast the, uh, the net as wide as we can. Yeah.
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I made my motion to reflect, uh, the city manager's, uh, comments or suggestions.
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Councilman going. Just going to call the question on the favor saying, aye. Aye.
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but I only have about 10 seconds ‸ and it's for district 2 and district 4 specifically this is from Space Coast TPO and in relation to the Clear Lake Road project I'm sure everybody's heard about all of the great comments on that so I just want to make you aware if you haven't already heard there is ‸ another project that will be on Dixon from the intersection of
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Lake Road and there is a working group meeting kicking off on Wednesday September 25th 1030 at the Cocoa Civic Center so if you'll remember the contractor did give us a whole big layout of Clear Lake Road and what ‸ they want to do to it at a big public meeting held over at Eastern Florida State or actually it was in the Solar Energy Center and so just be aware maybe we can get ahead of this one and and prevent prevent comments. Prevent, no, not prevent comments. We want to take good suggestions. That is all.
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any reports. so as far as reports, we'll start with
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little councilman bear oh ‸ sorry any staff reports I'm sorry
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back to school supply drive collection event is ‸ this Saturday at Cocoa Walmart from nine to two distribution event is Friday August 2nd from two to seven there's gonna ‸ be free haircuts, free food, free bike helmets while supplies last. So make sure you come out to Provost Park August 2nd it's a Friday from two to seven p.m. and then we're collecting at the Cocoa Walmart this Saturday from nine to two we are working with Main Street historic Cocoa Village Main Street on a small business conference that's Monday August 26th from 830 to 5 at the Cocoa Civic Center and we are now accepting applications for our citizens Academy you can go to our website Cocoa FL dot gov slash citizens Academy to get the application that's all I have.
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Thank you. Any other staff reports? city Manager?
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How long we got? our
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30 minutes, baby. 29 minutes.
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that email that I got but I got it and uh but I understand family first ‸ appreciate you for dedicating your time to the city uh actually giving us some dialogue back and forth that was nice to finally have uh so I appreciate you again for all that you have done so thank you for that thank you sir yes sir um
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um our speed bump policy for discussion uh maybe at our next meeting um there's some areas I know in my district definitely like on Blake and some other places um and because the where our policy is written we
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make our roads safe kind of like what we deal with on Michigan when um um unfortunately man was hit by a car on Michigan um they had to go through a full process you know some neighborhoods it's hard to get those uh petitions done so I want to bring that back in our next uh council meeting but other than that thank you I'm done um
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don't know which order the
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gonna ‸ come up because I think they got mixed up when I sent them so
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we'll go through uh
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today I had a chance to go over to clear lake
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speak with some of our elderly population, um give them some information on what's going on with the city um as far as our projects, uh this current election, just trying to keep our forgotten uh population informed of what's going on in the city. It was a great event. um this is actually a councilwoman cost um district I
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they're real uh receptive to us. uh City leaders coming and speaking with the uh citizens there, so ‸ great event if you ever get a chance go and and and check it out talk to some of the people in there good people so um what else I have here oh
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emails so it probably got mixed up so uh
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mean I yeah
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okay well first of all Matt we're gonna miss you What a man has to do what a man has to do, that's
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I applaud you for that thank you sir um I I make that analysis similar to a athlete who's in who respects his head coach and a head coach gets a different offer or different circumstances that has to alter their decision in order to protect their loved ones and I totally get it I totally support it and I totally applaud you for ‸ you and your lovely wife. And that takes courage to do what you ‸ are doing ‸ and I will miss you
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thank you sir
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Definitely. for the order, I'm gonna ‸ take my jacket off for the order alright ‸ whenever you're ready for me Mr. Beach sir thank you sir okay we had a family reunion with uh district
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in the middle she's a mayor in the state of Georgia a town in Georgia um We did that one. hey this is where Deputy Mayor uh um Herne
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middle school This picture speaks volumes. Chief Hennessy ma'am that's
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that's old
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Gabe Shuler notice
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is a future This is
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picture that when we invest in people, you can see the rewards. and the point that I'm saying just you know it's like that Rockwell picture that you see How this child is amazed with this vehicle. And our men and women working with this child. um This is the line lining up. in the You see the kids there. As their hat on. showing that love for Coco Fire Department I think that's truck 31 or 32, ma'am.
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and alert uh this is we're
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school board member Janice Kershaw um Mrs. Kennedy And the lady on the very end is Ms.
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way to the gymnasium. And it was there for hours. hours It was jam packed. alright You can see the various groups that participated. uh the D9 Delta Sigma Theta various organizations Lauderdale
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love the diversity I was able to get that low without splitting my pants hey uh yeah You gotta have a little humor here we are deputy mayor and this is the
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and they were actively involved with their
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they're bringing that international flavor here. uh
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the United States um we attended where Mrs. Gillette received a an award for her due diligence and ‸ prevailing in reference of safety. so I was tickle peak about that and I think that was wonderful We're acknowledging that sign there's zero tolerance. also
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the scenario about the safety of the roles on Clear Lake and also what was that uh 520, to his work
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a fatality on Dixon
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as well uh Hometown Hero um I wasn't sure if I submitted this or not but anyhow, that's us receiving this, the recipient This is my second time in
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I think this includes my portion um hey Matt we love you ain't
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damn thing you can do about it, brother. thank you sir
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mutual exchange sir thank you All right. Holy
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uh just at Publix uh
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collecting carts for Publix and putting them back because he cares I thought that was an amazing show of heart uh gentleman
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a nice
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D3 is the engine of the city in my humble opinion. uh And so this is just today. I don't know if you know that place on the left but, man, it is coming along. uh And that place on the right, ‸ turns out there's some cars over there, too. so for those of you that haven't looked at our Amazon megaplex over there they're doing work So just as a friendly reminder, that being said uh sorry staff uh these this is also uh an issue um that I've had three of the property projects that have gone up over there uh from an industrial park standpoint, where our tree ordinance, uh there's a lot of good that our tree ordinance does. but I think that we need to look and revisit what our tree ordinance is on the M2 zoning and and the reason I say that as an example there's a developer that ‸ like to do a project. The land is right. the tree ordinance would cost over $900,000 for the trees that would be knocked down. That is an exorbitant amount. it it it it that doesn't work and so that being said um my suggestion and I will leave this to to council you know at a different time, but you do a cap per acre in industrial that's how That's how you do that. So you do a max cap. Eight grand, I think it's kind of about where you're at in Florida somewhere about where developers
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say, okay, you know something like that.
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So for every acre, you charge them up to about eight grand and then you move on. I would leave that to discretion at council for some, but that would be an idea of how to do that. I am not suggesting revising it for other zoning districts at all. I think that the intent is exactly doing what it's supposed to do, but specifically in our industrial area, I don't think that the industrial area has
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somewhere about there. And I think that that would keep our industrial engine growing, uh, and so
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and so on. My hope would be that as a council, we could ask staff maybe to bring back suggestions on what that might look like, meaning no decision to be made right now, but just guidance to staff. If they might take a look at is there anything we could do in that M2 zoning specifically I'm looking at that industrial area on how we might be able to kind of balance out whatever that that tree mitigation would be. Um,
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the, the additional, um, from a veteran standpoint, um, I learned today. I met a veteran. A veteran who is no longer able to go to the VA clinic because of the amount of money that they make as a family. They're
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That 20 year, uh, veteran disabled veteran. I was blown away. I couldn't even fathom that that was something, how we would treat our veterans. And it's not a matter of the money. It's a matter of principle for what will stand up for, for
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course, that is not necessarily a, uh, we, we don't have any authority over that, but I'm wondering if we might be able to collectively as a body, send a letter to Congressman Posey to say, would you mind looking at why we're asking that we are kicking
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something to the, to, to the effect that would show that we, uh, have questions about why our veterans in our community are not allowed to use the VA clinic based on income.
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to doing that or no, or, uh,
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‸ I would like to know more about it.
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or ‸ to bring it back, you know, but, you know,
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‸ direction, man. That's all you have to do. Just give. ‸ Yeah.
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So. ‸ Yeah. ‸ That, that would be my hope, but, and, you know, so I'll, I'll just leave it at that. Okay. Uh, and then the last part, just on a
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first off, um, I,
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uh, my resignation from this position was as much a surprise to me as it was for everybody.
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if you had asked me a month ago, if this was going to happen, there was no way, no how, um, I'm not going to go into the personals of my own family, but I can just share with you. I fully understood the commitment that it, that, that is asked of a council member. Uh, and knowing that I assure you that I, in good faith was moving forward with that. I've always weighed decisions on the front porch test, meaning that when
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I do the right thing? And this would be one of those moments where everything about it. I hate the idea of having to do it, but it doesn't pass the front porch test me staying. Uh, and so that being said, I am grateful for all of the burden that this has caused that you all are just your willingness to say, let's move forward and keep the city going in a great way. So thank you for your leadership in that. I appreciate everybody for that. And I, ‸ I, I absolutely apologize. Uh, and it is a horrible thing, but it's
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So thank you all for that. A few words of encouragement as well. Well, the other, what you don't know also, and just to, I'm going to quash a couple. Okay.
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So I saw something out there that this was a sneaky plot for me to make way for somebody to take the election. I'm just letting you know, just like I did in Titusville. I would love for somebody to find my, uh, my, my, my rerunning campaign reports because I never filed ever to rerun in Titusville. Never did. Never did. So I, you know, I don't know how that works out, but, uh, that that's totally false. Uh, the lies,
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utter
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lies that are cached in care. ‸ Related to myself personally, uh, is dishonorable at best. And I think that that's maybe the difference between people who have just a opinion about something and they're entitled to it. And those that actually take the time to do the homework and ask the questions and have those discussions and are upfront instead of just being warriors behind some, you know, keyboard or something like that. And that being said, uh, honor is a real thing. I am sorry to the public that politicians have been so dishonorable to leave you with such a lack of trust. And so, you know, I get it, but I,
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I,
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there's not a person on this diet who I don't trust that you are coming in with the best of heart and to do what is right. I,
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I
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I'm thankful to this dias
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that. All
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Also, our personal family has been absolutely destroyed by ‸ one of our family members. Absolutely destroyed. And I paint that as a tale of caution to our community. our
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community has got our own security because
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How
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The
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the way. So
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um
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shared those narratives that are perpetuated for the purpose of, you know, scaring the hell out of everybody. Know your neighbor and know that there are people out there who are willing to do good. And that is the people that are surrounded in this room right now who are the staff in the city of coco
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his council members. So thank you for choosing to do good, even when people want to sling things that are dishonorable uh for
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And that being said, I'll leave it at that. Thank you all. It has been a privilege and an honor. So thank you. Thank you all. Thank you.
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drive this weekend right
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You mean
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supplies?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Yeah, that's it. Okay,
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Yeah, I mentioned
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it. Okay. Go ahead, sir. Come on.
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No, no. I had a union
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break. Yeah,
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see that? Oh. You sleepy.
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make a motion. Matt, Matt, Matt.
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Take it to the
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sir.
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to put in for the appointment uh
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All in favor, say aye.
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Aye.
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Go in peace.

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