And here's the reason why. Now I know where we can borrow some money. Okay, without further ado,
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Okay. Thank you very much.
Okay.
Want me to do the pledge?
Yeah. Got you. Another card? Are all cards submitted, please?
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Got it.
Thank you,
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We would like to start this meeting, please.
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Please, sirs. The law is applicable to me as well, so I'm making sure my cell phone is secured. ‸ We would like to have invocation, please, by Deputy Mayor Hearn, Pledge of Allegiance by yours truly, Councilman Rip Dial. Also would like to have a special prayer for one of our comrades
and
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one of our sister cities that will be led by Chief Lamb.
Yes, sir.
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was just diagnosed with leukemia. He is at Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville seeking treatment. So I know his family and,
of
course, Rockwood Fire Department,
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very close to us, would appreciate that.
Thank you very much, Chief Lamb. And also one of my close and near dear friend to my heart,
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of silence for this individual, please. Okay. Thank you very much. Deputy Mayor,
would
you lead us in invocation?
Yes,
sir.
If everyone would join me by bowing your heads, dear Heavenly Father, I'd like to give thanks to you for allowing everyone to arrive here tonight safely. I also ask that you watch over us, watch as a city, as we travel back home tonight after this meeting. I ask that you give us all a sound mind that we only make the best decisions on
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We tell you to watch over all our citizens, our sister cities, and all our fellow citizens beyond that. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen.
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Face the flag. I pledge allegiance. To the flag. Of the United States of America. And to the republic for which it stands. One nation. Under God. Indivisible.
With
liberty and justice for all. Please be seated. Thank you very much. Needless to say, we have a jam-packed audience. Want to make sure all of our ladies are sitting first and foremost.
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So all ladies have a seat. And I respect that to the fullest. Madam Clerk, may we do roll call, please, ma'am.
Mayor Blake.
Present, ma'am.
Deputy Mayor Hearn. Present.
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Here.
Council Member Goins. Council Member Koss. Here. City Attorney Garganese. Here.
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Thank
you.
Thank you very much, Madam City Clerk.
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The agenda. As you all know, under item number 9, under public hearing, I'll be asked that that particular item be tabled. So I would ask to amend the agenda to reflect item number 9, under public hearing, be tabled. And I'm looking for a second. I'll second that. Okay. We have a second on the floor by Councilman Dow. Chair's going to call the question.
All
in favor by saying.
You got a date certain for that.
A date certain for that will be the meeting in the month of
August. August 22nd, sir. Yes,
ma'am. Okay. August 22nd. There were signs posted out front for your ‸ notification. So please let the record reflect that. For August 22nd. All right. Motion on the floor
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Chair's going to call the question. All in favor by saying aye. Aye.
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Proceeding on to item number 2-2. No minutes. Proceeding on to item number 3. Awards and presentation.
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Let's give them a round of applause, please.
Yes,
indeed, we're talking about accountability. Every time you all walk past me and council members, I hear ching-ching. So, again, that's a good thing. Ladies.
Okay. Hi. I'm here to present the COCO interns for this year's summer intern program.
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Okay. All right. Now it's working. Okay. So, the city's hosted summer interns continuously since 2015. I think we skipped during COVID one year. ‸ And this was a program that we had back in the early 2000s that we brought back in 2015. Our priority with this program is with COCO
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So, the goal is to recruit
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And the long-term goal of possibly bringing them back as a full-time position in the future. So, this year
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And they all worked in different capacities.
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We had ‸ code enforcement
intern,
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So, different, all different capacities. And we partner with CareerSource annually with this project. And we also partner with the high schools. So, the guidance counselors really help push the student to fill out their application. There's kind of a little interview process. We do some training to get them some interview skills.
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And with that, they earn a lot of soft skills. So, many times these students have never had a job.
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So, working in their community. So, and our HR staff is tremendous to bring this together. So, and it's almost like herding cats sometimes. Like chasing down paperwork. And ‸ Margaret Turgeon here, she's our HR recruiter. And ‸ this is like kind of like her baby project. And Alyssa Backer here, she's our HR technician. And she's behind the scenes getting all the, helping organize all the paperwork. And getting the students here for their onboarding. And so, it's a lot of behind the scenes on our staff. So, and they create a lot of bonds with the kids. And ‸ it's really fun for us to do. So, and so, we'll start bringing the students up to present them. We'll do an alphabetical order. I think there's two students that couldn't make it tonight. But we'll get their certificate to them. They did complete the project.
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Rob, we had a presentation too. We're going to,
in
the background, we're going to show some pictures on the slides.
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It's just like a slide show.
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put together a video. She captured a lot of nice pictures of them working in the field. And was able to see them in action working.
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Okay. Okay. So, we'll start with the, bringing the students up then. So, like I said, we're going to go in alphabetical order.
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a senior, or going
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Yay!
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He was actually had the opportunity to do a lot of welding in the utilities department. And he said he had a lot of fun working with everybody. And actually, he's a mentee of our HR manager, Lauren Stinnett, and Take Stock and Children, which is another program that we support. So, he's well known in our department.
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Okay.
Yeah, Michael started at WFO, and he switched to community services. He's a Rockledge High graduate.
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With
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righty. And Patrick Miller was unable to make it tonight. He was a community services intern with the Coco graduate, with a 4.0.
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Next we have
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She was in Leisure Services. So she helped a lot with the 4th of July. And her big comment in our pre-meeting was it was really, really hot. So that was like the only thing
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negative she had to say about the internship. But she had a lot of fun in Leisure Services and bringing
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So she's at Rockledge High as a junior. And so.
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tonight.
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Yay!
And then last but not least is Madison Wilson. Yay! Madison was in code enforcement.
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Her mom was just telling me that now she recognizes all the code violations if she sees one.
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to spot, you know, and be a good citizen out there understanding what we do here as a city. ‸ And she's a Coco High junior. And her application said her goal was to be in pharmaceutical sciences. That's her college goal. So she seems very smart.
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Well, that completes our presentation. We're just going to take a picture.
Can we get two pictures?
One
with us, please. And then the parents of these responsible, up-and-coming young adults, but we're going to let them be teenagers? Yes! Come, please.
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Come
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Three, two, one.
Team! Team Coco. All right. Hold, hold,
hold.
Parents!
Parents!
Parents! If you don't want me to call your name out,
if
you don't want me to raid your refrigerator, come on down, please. Is that all the parents?
A
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Granddad. Where's the granddad? Yeah, what granddad is that? Whose grandfather's out here?
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Yeah. Who's grandfather? Whose grandfather?
It's
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Jason's grandfather.
Jason, tell me, come on
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Yeah. Bring them over there with you, Jason. Yeah, man, everybody. Thank you, sir. This
is a beautiful
thing, man.
Let's get back. Where
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There we go. ‸ Back in to go.
We're
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Three,
two, one. Geez. Have a ride.
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Let's give our children a round of applause. Thank you. We appreciate you. This is what accountability is all about. Do not be in a rush to grow up, but do take the time to
enjoy your youth.
‸ Someone has a cell phone and keys. Is that you, Michael Michael Motorcycle? Yes,
sir.
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Oh, no,
I just wanted to mention one thing. And I, I also failed to mention, are these on?
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we brought on recently as a full-time employee in IT. His name's Jason Dowdy, and he's actually working tonight, um, behind the scenes as our help desk technician, so.
All right, thank you very much.
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Okay. Proceeding on to the next section category, which is delegations. Please be mindful that you have three minutes to expound on your particular item. And this is the order in which we have. ‸ I have one, two, three, four, five cards under delegation. Now,
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individuals? Just for the record. I just want to let the record reflect.
Can one person speak on behalf of others?
Yes, if they have their permission. Sure. Okay.
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number of cards in which they can submit?
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Once we get there, then we'll put you back. Okay. All right.
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First on the list, Mr. Steve Murphy. Please come forward and state your name.
Thank you. Hello.
My
name is Steve Murphy.
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I'm here under the consent agenda to speak with relation to the MOU that is on discussion in just a few moments with the Business Academy. I think that's a good idea. Yeah, it's wonderful that you're getting all that free work that they're willing to provide there. My only concern
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It's not negotiable as far as they're concerned.
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has a sunshine in 2032, which is less than the 10 years. And so my recommendation is that there be, in the MOU, ‸ an option or an
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CRA not be extended for the full 10 years. That's all I have. Thank you.
Thank you very much. Next, Lieutenant Paul Camus.
Paul Camus, [address] I just wanted to talk about a rescue that ‸ Engine 33 crew performed out
of
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Lost Lakes at 108 Woods Mill. There's three ducklings that fell through the storm grate, and I was flagged down by one of the residents to help. And between him and I, we couldn't move that
great
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by ourselves because it was just too heavy. So we got Station 3 out there, called the non-emergency dispatch, and spoke with Michelle. Second
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door was left open. And she's been terrific. So she's an awesome dispatcher. If
you
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got to call PD, ‸ dispatch, hopefully ‸ get Michelle. So anyway, Station 3 showed up. And we four-pointed that storm grate to move it. And then Garrett, who's over there, but he wouldn't come up, he ‸ got on his belly to try and reach in to get the
there's
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three ducklings in there,
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his boat to work that day, and on the boat was a dip net. And they were smart enough to bring that dip net and was able to use it to get the ducklings out. So I just want to recognize that it was great to see them come out. So. Now, if you remember
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was a painting with two firefighters rescuing a dog. The doghouse was on fire, and the dog was coming out with his tail on fire. And it said, no matter how small, we fight them all. So maybe there could be some artwork on this, no matter how small, we rescue them all. So thank you very much. And just I want to let you all know about Joanne of Public Works. She's great, too. Anytime I got anything needs picked up, call her or the dry pond mode, call her. Sam Newton. He's a meter reader. If you don't know Sam, talk to Sam.
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Great, great individual.
I
mean, inspirational. And for history of Coco, we need to get Bernice Cox to sit down and get on video and tell the history of Coco. Because she told me the other day at the sharing center, I asked her about Peter Young Project, and she told me the history of Peter Young Project. So if
y'all
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can, you know, get Bernice on some
videos
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Thank you all. Love you all.
Thank you.
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I have Mr. Greenwood.
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He's speaking in behalf of, well, first of all, speaking
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reference for himself, and then also Lois Felder and Matt Osborne.
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I mean,
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is that person has to present something in writing from the person that they're representing, or alternatively, that person has to be physically present
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you know,
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person present. So ‸ that's been the way we've applied the rule of duly authorized representative being authorized to speak.
Now,
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reference of her business in the city of Cocoa, and I think that's what Mr. Greenwood will address.
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Okay. So.
But in the past,
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Off the cuff. Okay. So. All right,
sir. Flo is yours.
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So, yes, sir. Just make sure the city clerk obtains one, sir.
Yes, sir.
Before you get started, ‸ Councilman, we have open seats, gentlemen.
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Trust me. I believe you. I trust you. There's just, if you want to take a load off your feet and put it in the seat, you may. That's all I'm saying. Thank you. Schoolteacher.
Go ahead.
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And I appreciate you allowing me to speak. The commercial property group is alive and well. There were council members that have gone to the meetings we've had at the Civic Center because it's increased that much as far as members.
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So, the main representative, which is Mac Osborne at Travis and also Lois, they are familiar with what I'm going to discuss today. And what I wanted to do, and it's unfortunate, this ‸ is involving projects that are pending and coming to the council.
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17 acres. Basically, it's unfortunate, but I have been keeping it low-key for some of the things that are transpiring by one of the council members that the newspaper ‸ has identified as a naysayer. And I'm a little shocked and disappointed. The problem is, is that, for the record, there's following issues where attacks have been made to the city manager, statements about the city attorney, the police chief, the fire chief, who's been here for eight years, which I don't want to go into the details, but I can provide it for you all
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The other thing that is a problem from the naysayer is micromanaging staff, so much so to the point that the mayor required an apology during a public meeting to the public works director.
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The next thing is a reference to the council. Same thing. We, the naysayer requires a re-voting on many of the items already approved by the council. Altering council minutes. Whining when being outvoted as a victim. Currently.
I'm abject.
Undermining new projects by the following information. And this is where the crossing of the line happened. Because there's no reason for this to be ‸ happening. Undermining projects by giving out misinformation. ‸ Calling the property that is coming up before the council.
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Which the Everglades part. And you can see that in a copy of the letter that I gave you. Was never called that.
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Three of those are the time she spent on the council. So this is a newbie that is not familiar with the history of the property. The other thing is an issue that was brought up by
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up. Would you support that project? And that means site plan. Surveys. St. John's water management approval. Things like that. The naysayer never answered.
He's speaking on behalf of... No ma'am. This is my council meeting ma'am. Please maintain.
Attacking me.
I didn't say that.
Well you've been up here for... Excuse
me.
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He has three more minutes. Is that correct? Since he's speaking on behalf of...
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Again, Mayor, it's up to the council. I mean, if he's duly authorized to speak on behalf of that person... And ‸ you believe that he's presented... Too... Yeah. The information to verify that he's speaking on behalf of another person... The council has allowed... You know, a person to speak... On behalf of someone else. So, I mean, I'll leave that judgment to the council. What are the
wishes of council?
Not to let him speak.
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Okay, ma'am. Thank you.
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No. Okay, you said no.
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Yeah.
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I think we already set the precedent on how we handle a situation like this.
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Okay. Proceed forward, sir.
Thank you. This is where the line was crossed about the 17 acres on Indian River and Dixon Boulevard. It is unbelievable that a council member ‸ would go and send a letter to the St. John's Water Management District that you have a copy of, signed by that council person, which basically means that that council person is representing the city council in its entirety. I think that's a charter issue there because the letter was basically stating to the St. John's Water Management District, ‸ do not approve an extension that was already approved for that 17 acres. That is crossing the line. That is totally unacceptable. That
is totally unacceptable.
And you're sending the wrong message out to the public. The citizens should not be treated like that. In summary, the council needs to make it very clear that it does not endorse, condone, or agree with any of the naysayers' outrageous and brazen violations. And
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And I guarantee you, I know all of you on the council, not one of you would have done any of those violations I highlighted. That was done by the naysayer. If you've had time to look at it, don't be afraid to let me know if I'm wrong by saying you would not repeat it. It is a ‸ violation. It's a tort violation, and it could be involving a lawsuit. All the above and accepted violations, yet the naysayer wanted to be nominated as ‸ the deputy mayor when the elections were over. This act proves adjectives equal to being narcissistic, centimonious, power-hungry, and a disruptor. However, the naysayer needs to resign or be asked to leave. You will never be equal to the following ladies, class ladies.
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The other one was the mayor, Diane Gunn. And the one ‸ only that I was on the council with, Jewel Collins, that Alex and I fight over whose mother that is. But that's an example of the kind of class of council members that are totally class,
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And I regret that you're all having to deal with this. And I'm sorry that
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and realize that mistakes were made by the council member, and I appreciate the mayor asking for an apology from the
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But it doesn't stop there. The other staff is micromanaging going on, and this is crossing the boundary. You have a city manager here. It is his job to oversee the work that the people are doing.
Now,
I'd like to finish on a positive note. This is the last of it. The golf cart is here that I ordered. I wanted the council to see it, but because of the rain,
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But that was something that we're going to need to see on the agenda. I think I got a consensus the last time it was brought up. I also think that it's very important because of the amount of work that the city manager is doing. We need to look into the possibility of an assistant for the city manager.
Please wrap it up, sir.
And the last thing is the parking stripes in the downtown area. They're not divided out. People are missed parking. That also needs to be on the agenda. I hope there's a concession for that. I
hope there's a concession for that.
And, oh, the tree board. That's the last thing. I was able to get support from the P&Z board group about bringing it back and reactivating it. And
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So because of that and because I had the support of the P&Z board, I want to make it official that I would like to be included in all the meetings, even though the naysayers saw to it that I should not be called for the meeting that they had at.
Thank you.
Thank you very much for listening.
Thank you very much.
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Yeah,
first of all, I had nothing to do with that. Secondly, this is the fourth time you've come forward since we ‸ determined that we were not going to increase the density of the property that you want to develop on
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We determined that we would not increase the density because it is a surge area.
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It floods regularly. All the fire department can tell you about it.
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it at this point. Code enforcement has ‸ cited you ‸ for it. I am not in the least bit ashamed of having written a letter to the St. Johns River Water Management District making them aware of the development of this property. And all it is is an inquiry, and particularly because the mitigation that was going to be done to that environmentally sensitive land, those wetlands, that mitigation was going to be for a project in Cape Canaveral. So myself, along with a dozen of my neighbors, were interested in seeing a better future
for this property.
One that would protect the neighborhood overall with the flood mitigation because that is an area of severe surge. Whenever we get a surge, that area is going to flood. It's going to stand in water. It's like any other river. The Indian River Lagoon expands. And that's why FEMA is spending millions, billions of dollars buying up properties like that so that they can remain natural and so the river can do what it does, particularly in light of sea level rise. So, you know, this is the fourth time you've been here with basically the same complaint. I'm sorry. I'm not, I feel no remorse for this. In fact, I feel like this is, you know, why I'm here is to champion certain issues that I have a background in. Furthermore, I moved here, ‸ I was married March 28, 2012. I've lived here since then.
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My husband has been here all his life. So, for some reason, because I married into this place, I'm not a legitimate citizen. I don't think so. There are a lot of people in my neighborhood
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And I don't think we should be treated as though we're second class because of it.
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And I'm just, especially after the latest, this latest episode, the trenching, the trenching next to the Manifredi's house.
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is in question. And the first storm,
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could easily come down on their property.
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And I'm not going to apologize for it. That's it.
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Oh, ‸ one other thing, please.
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Yes, she's a property owner of... Right. Right there in the village, right there on the corner where they're doing the construction. She is due west of... What's the old black tulip? It's the new...
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The restaurant there? She's west of that.
So she... Does she have an interest in that property? Is that why... Okay.
Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Is that it, ma'am?
Yeah.
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Osborne as well because that's pretty interesting.
I've got ‸ one thing to say.
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One thing about the history of that 17 acres that has not been brought up, I'm going to bring it up now. In 1951, and matter of fact, me and Frank Sullivan were talking about this a couple weeks ago, the road got washed out. The only
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There was no US 1. So how they fixed it, they took a drag line and took the dirt from that piece of property and built River Road up. And now that's why it's low in retention pond in front of that 17 acres, which is north of Dixon. That's exactly what happened in 1951 after we had a severe storm that washed out River Road.
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Thank you.
Okay. Okay.
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cards for delegation?
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Thank you very much. This concludes this portion of delegations, and we'll proceed on to consent agenda item. What are the wishes of council?
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Just going to call the question.
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I need to amend my second.
Okay. Okay, go ahead.
Number.
You're
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5A2.
You
have the MOU. ‸ Right. Move it to Council Business.
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We approved the agenda.
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from him,
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as well. First, ‸ you want to move this particular item? Yes, sir. To where? City business?
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Okay. We will move this particular.
‸ I'll retract my motion. Well, all you
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Yes, sir. Okay.
Thank you. Okay. Chair's
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Do you have that, Madam Clerk, first of all?
Yes.
Okay. All in favor by saying aye. Aye. Aye.
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Okay. Now we can proceed on to public hearing.
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flum amendment to change the flum designation of one
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acres from commercial to high density. This is pertaining to
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this into the minutes
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the City
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comprehensive planning, amending the future land use map for one parcel of real
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acres more or less located northwest of the intersection of Forest Avenue and Grimes Street being legally described on exhibit a attached here to
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residential providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions incorporation into ‸ the code. comprehensive plan severability and an effective date and legal status of the plan amendment. Again, this is second final reading also ‸ public hearing item. And this is a legislative matter for the council mayor
thank you very much mrs.
nodelman
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thank you mr. mayor as
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the city is requesting this change from commercial to high-density residential for the future land use. As noted, the property owner intends to construct multifamily units on a portion of this property. If the amendment and zoning map amendment for the portion is approved, the possible zoning districts for the high-density residential are
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at a PUD and the first
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the property owner intends to construct transitional housing units, for families, homeless, ‸ families who
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subject to homelessness. And, the applicant has to come back before a council for zoning change and site plan approval before any of that moves forward. Staff is requesting approval of the second
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for mrs.
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council okay oh I do ‸ yeah
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is a nonprofit right 501 c3 yes ma'am it is so we do not generate any tax revenues? We do not generate ‸ tax revenues from this property, no. Okay. And changing the future land use map to high density, would we're just talking about what's being proposed here at being suggested is 12 to 14 units. That is correct. But the density of that entire property is what's being changed, right?
It is not
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which totals five acres from commercial to high density residential
okay and
I have them and a map here showing all right the location.
And so based on that, how tall does it go? It is with that density. In this case, we're just talking 12 to 14 units.
Correct. And there's there's no height. There's, as far as we know,
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there's nothing above the one story.
Okay.
Okay. Well,
those are all my questions
for you.
mr. mayor let me that service
city manager
shirlene the the 5.88 acres is not the entire site
the
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it's only one portion of it that's being zoned from commercial to high-density residential okay
I thought I thought the flu covered the entire site and then they intend on the zoning covering specific pieces of the property
yeah my apologies yes I think that's correct
it I see them shaking their head.
Yeah, we're focusing only on the flu tonight. The zoning has to come back before council. So
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that does the flu and covers the entire site.
Right, so it can go to that density. Okay. And
they are coming back for future reference, correct?
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be bringing back the zoning application
yes
to the planning and zoning board okay is
that it ma'am
yeah I have questions for
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came to me, had some questions. uh For instance, if this property is for some reason sold in the future and uh any proposed change uh of use to this property, it will still have to come back before council
yes
at that time, ‸ Correct. Okay, thank you.
And it's all transitional too. So but
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Okay. I have a few cards here. ‸ Okay. And we're going to open it to the public. and first on this list okay gotcha will be Miss Colette Meyer but sure like the closest portion to council and open to the public we will proceed in this order
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are you here ma'am I saw you earlier tonight would you please come to the podium and after that will be mrs. Weisberg and then after that will be is it Zimmerman okay we will proceed in that order yes
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Meyer I live at [address] my family
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a family i'm
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did not over Florida but to this area okay we've had property we own the
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in the city of
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‸ I have lived 67 years either on Mulberry Street or Indian River Drive I think that's that's commendable for someone my age so I do have some skin in the game when you're going to start changing things you know ‸ if I get emotional I'm sorry but that's just the way it is transparency in government is crucial let me tell you something
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we were never notified We
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broken into. I was one of the three homes. I could be dead right now because it was a guy that was homeless.
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for being an armed robber. He was in my home. I came home. So you have no communication. We used to have signs up on the corners when things were going to happen. None of that anymore. A friend of mine,
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Every house we went to, the people and the neighborhood did not know this was going to happen.
I'm going
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to take you back a few years if you've been in the area, ‸ if anybody remembers Fee Avenue. when they were doing
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it just absolutely destroyed the neighborhood and nearly destroyed melbourne downtown melbourne when you love a place that you've lived all these years
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on the river it's the magic it's magic but when you see what we see other people in the neighborhood where i live people come by it's not magic and my thing is first of all you didn't communicate this to us and second of all we don't know what guidelines are going to be there for this there's no no guidelines i know i'm over time
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person in but this guy over here he didn't pass so where do you think that guy that rejected guy is gonna ‸ go he's gonna ‸ go into the neighborhood okay that's just common sense And I want to tell you a little story. Could
you wrap it up for me, please? Yes,
I'm gonna ‸ do real
quick. Thank you.
I am not an elitist that lives on Indian River Drive. My grandson, at seven years old, was born on the street. My drug drug drug addicted. She lived in a car and
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he didn't ask for this. Now he's adopted by my daughter and her family. ‸ He's a wonderful child, but he has a whole lifetime of hurt, of suffering because of his mother being on the street.
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She didn't do it. But that little boy is going to suffer the rest of his life. Okay? Yes,
ma'am.
Thank you. Thank
you very much,
ma'am.
next miss Caitlin Weisberg, ma'am. Please. Thank you, ma'am.
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Good. My name is Caitlin Aliana Weisberg. I live at [address]
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so I may be able to talk a little slower than I was expecting.
Take your time.
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All right. So when this was presented to the planning and zoning board, where this passed with five in favor and four opposed, the board surfaced the concern for the surrounding homes, to which Scott responded, quote, I will tell you about those homes over there. I'm going to tell you we're going to have the nicest ones there, end quote. And then going as far as to use a cuss word when referencing the area at the council meeting. Those comments really paint a grim picture and
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that runs east of us1 all the way down to the Indian River. If you've ever taken the
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a beautiful, flourishing part of
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that is. And I give a lot of credit to matthews Hope for the time, energy, and money they've invested in the area to help make it what it is today. Because of our proximity to their location,
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where Charlene, Scott's partner, came to share about their mission. My husband asked if they would be housing people, to which Charlene responded, there's been no discussion of that. I naively believed that their plan wouldn't change, but here we are.
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this began only a month later in June 2022. The planning and zoning board also asked Scott whether he is planning to build net new buildings in the future on their property. Scott responded, quote, there's been no discussion of that, unquote. This time, I know better. Plans change. And this is not a question of whether or not you support their mission. I support their mission. This isn't even really about whether you support their decision to turn a few empty classrooms into transitional housing. I'm not necessarily opposed to that. This is about making a sweeping permanent zoning change. And
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of that property a mile when Matthews Hope is really asking for an inch. It may not be reasonable for me to expect the council to change the unanimous vote that you gave this at the first reading. So my ask is simple. I ask that you table tonight's vote, that you request city staff go back and propose an alternative solution that takes a slower, more incremental approach, a solution that does enable Scott to move forward with the 12 to 14 units within the current footprint without giving Matthews Hope or any future owner of the property full reign to develop up to 25 dwelling units
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in a neighborhood that typically sees a max of three houses per acre. This is what the new zoning designation would allow them to do, even if there's been no
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Bob Muser.
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My name is Tom Zimmerman. I want to do what Colette said about um everything she said.
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trashed his house. um I've seen a lot of, of, um a lot more people on the river road that are homeless walking up and down the river road. And
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the proper place for ‸ homeless ‸ in that residential area. Thank you so much.
Thank you, sir. Next will be Bob Muser.
Yeah,
I got you.
You're getting closer on the name,
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State your name for us, please, so we'll get it official.
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I want to mention a couple things. I appreciate the speakers that came up before me. One, and as ‸ it was mentioned, this is the change, the land use on almost six acres from residential, and I highlight this, to ‸ commercial to high-density residential.
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It
goes all the way up
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Forest Avenue. I'd like to thank ‸ my neighbors, as Colette mentioned. We didn't know about this. There was a legal ad that was put in the paper by the city back in May.
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The previous agenda meeting where this had the first reading on July 11th, there was no address on it. Tonight, suddenly, there is an address on it. But like the others, I support the mission of Matthew's Hope. I've been ‸ there. My wife and I have provided donations to them. But I'm not sure. ‸ My first question is, ‸ who put the plans forward? My understanding is the property is owned not by a nonprofit, but it's owned by ‸ Charity Properties, which is an LLC out of St. Louis, Missouri. So in that case, they should be paying taxes to the city. I believe Matthew's Hope is a tenant of them. This seems to have flown under the radar over the past few meetings. And again, without some of the great work of many of the neighbors that are here tonight, we wouldn't have known about it. And as Mr. Zimmerman just presented, there was a grassroots campaign to go and talk to the neighbors. Why didn't anybody reach out directly to our community to be able to find out what the plans are?
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That's fantastic. Not in our area. Maybe serious crimes going down. Maybe violent crimes going down. Petty crime and crimes of opportunity have been going through the roof in the area adjacent to this establishment. Everybody on my street parkway has had something stolen from them. Just last week, I had somebody that came up and trespassed on my front porch at 540 in the morning. There have been an increase of vagrants, loitering and trespassing all over the community.
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when I did have that trespass on my porch last week, he was deterred by my security camera and my ring system.
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neighbors here, the people that have these devices. And we report crimes. I do not believe the city of Cocoa Police Department participates in that. Program. You can see what's going on.
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A lot of our other smaller police departments do participate. And you can see what's being reported real time in our community. And I posted that when I had to trespass the other week.
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Some small businesses are my neighbors. They
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They're seeing it every day in their businesses here in the village. However, just to close. What I'm requesting is you to table or vote against this request. And allow the community to work with the owner and
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And I believe it needs to be addressed. But it's going to take everybody coming together to address that. Similar to how it was down in the city of Melbourne.
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great strides in dealing with the homeless population down there. Again, we appreciate what they brought to the neighborhood and the improvements they've done on the property.
But
this needs to have more details and more analysis done to make sure it's done properly. So I appreciate the extra time.
Yes, sir. Thank you very much, sir. All right. Are there any cards out there in the audience? ‸ Okay.
I
got
you,
councilman.
Slow down. Please. Mr. Ballou, you submitted a card. Would you like to come forward, sir? God bless you.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yes, sir. I understand the concerns of the folks.
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I do understand the concerns of the community. I would also say that, show me that that's who it is. The whole reason we did this,
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place is because ‸ you have such a massive problem here in Central Brevard.
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Yet the largest homeless population in the entire area, before Matthews Hope got here, is right here.
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You can see
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happen. I can promise you it happens. What I can also say that I wish that people would take the same time to ask the questions.
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We're in our 14th month. And we've not had issues. I do want to apologize for the comment I made. But at the same time, if people knew what I was talking about, what I see happening across the street from us, that was happening before we got there, we'd realize that that is exactly what I called it. I just should have used a better name for it. It's a shame. Now, the good news is, is that we don't just bring anybody in. That's not how this works. Most of our folks, quite honestly, are homeless females with children. And we actually have the bulk of those spots actually within a fenced area that those females, nobody can get to them unless you know how to get in that area. So I'd say if there ends up being, say, 14 units, basically 10 of those units are going to fall into that area. We have people that would have some staff member that would live on site.
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that if something were to happen, if you were to share with us a crime that's been committed on your property, we could actually look and tell you exactly if that person was homeless and had anything to do with here.
Sir, sir, sir. Mr. Weisberg, please, sir. In the audience. Go ahead, sir.
The reality of it is, is the crime hasn't been. Your crime is up, just like it is near my house.
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But I will tell you that homeless people are a direct reflection of this very community that sits in this room. If you're an arsonist, you're an arsonist. It has nothing to do with whether you're homeless. If you're a thief, you're a thief. It has nothing to do with whether you're homeless. Most of it is petty crime when they do it, quite honestly. At the same time, we're not talking about allowing people to ‸ live there that do those type of things.
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You have to qualify. ‸ You have to be working. We also, I mentioned, I think I gained about 15 seconds.
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currently with 40 children. And it's a mix of everything from a homeless child to a NASA engineer's child.
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But I would also encourage you to, if you want to know what the truth is and what we're doing, come and visit. That's the best way to do it.
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No, quite honestly, you would not even know we built anything because we're not building anything. We're renovating inside the current building. But it does require that we get the zoning to be able to do that.
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anything being done because we're not doing that. I'm here mostly to answer questions. Like I said, we have been wide open. ‸ We are all over Facebook. We are all over the news. There should be no surprises to anybody. But the other side is know that our open door policy is here. If you have a question, just ask. I'll make myself available 24-7. Even when the police department called us the other night at 1130 with a 77-year-old woman that was homeless, we responded.
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But you've got to ask. And I will tell you also, one last thing.
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it into something other than that. And I would hope that you would take the time to educate yourself and know exactly what we are doing. Lastly, we have a track record in Orange County right there in Winter Garden for 13 years. I encourage you, if you'd like, you can call the mayor there, the city manager, the chief of police.
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Whoever you want to call. And
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Thank you for your time.
Thank you very much, sir. Stay right there, sir, because I have some lights.
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just want the record to reflect. I do believe in Matthew's hope and its mission. Because
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How many
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it
is? Daily. So I understand and I get it. But I'm a school teacher.
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Yes, sir. ‸ And not only that, sir, I get it. I get the challenges. Been a school teacher for 30 years. And no one wants it there. But guess what? The reality of it is that we must deal with it. And it's going to upset certain people. And if you want to be upset, fine. But there's a solution.
And sure, if I may.
Let me close it. Let me close it. Chair, I'd like to close this portion to the public and return it to council. We will proceed in this order. We
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Mr. Zimmerman, sir, did you have the petitions?
Yes, I did.
Do you want to submit those petitions to us? Okay. Would you just,
miss
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Singer, would you raise your hand, please? And she'll get them. We good? Okay. All right. Councilwoman
cost
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ma'am.
Well, first, a couple of questions for Charlene. So, ‸ we did not have the address on this notice that was in the newspaper. And aren't we required to?
where
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that seems to be a really fundamental oversight. ‸ And to the point of transparency that.
It was a legal ad. The legal ad has the legal description of the property. And so, I'm not sure when it comes back for zoning, if the zoning doesn't have a legal description of the property and the address. But it was a legal ad. You know, that gives you the description of the property. The legal description of the property. It also highlights various streets there with a map. ‸ The
legal ad actually noted it was on Forest Avenue. It gave the actual legal description, which is required for the legal ad. And it actually had a map of the location in the ad. Okay. So, it was there. And this was a city initiated a future land use amendment, which did not require us to do the 500 foot radius package. Did not require what?
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The zoning, the rezoning will require that. And ‸ so,
those
will be ‸ sent out.
And another point that was raised. So, this is owned by Mr.
blue
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This is owned by your financier or the philanthropist. Yeah,
this
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that works alongside and partnerships with people like Matthews Hope around the country to address things like homelessness, disabilities, and things like that. That's their ‸ hot spots.
And so, it's the 501c3.
Yes, ma'am. Okay.
And
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Yes, ma'am.
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Their foundation is a 501c3. Uh-huh. And we are a 501c3.
Okay. Two separate entities?
Yes, ma'am.
‸ So, if something happened to your operation, it would then belong to this charity properties, right?
Yes, ma'am. Okay.
Okay.
well,
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you remember when I came to visit you?
Yeah, I
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enthusiasm.
Yeah. Yeah. Because this is, you know, your goals, this project, laudable. Um, the operation that I observed very efficient, very clean. Um, and you took us to some housing.
Yes, ma'am.
I think there were like three plexes or four plexes. But they were kind of couched in neighborhoods.
They
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Yeah,
they were in the middle of neighborhoods, not on the site of your facility.
No, ma'am. Yeah. No, ma'am. Our,
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So, we actually have two locations that sit on, if you're familiar with Winter Garden, Park Avenue, and all that.
Right.
The new Winter Park. Uh, we sit approximately three blocks off one side and one block off the other.
Okay. And, okay. And, and the people that would be living in these, um, units, they actually work for you, or they work for others, or are they working?
Often, when they, if they're not working when they first come in, often we allow them to work for us.
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Mm-hmm.
That's really for an opportunity for us to learn their work ethic. ‸ Also, control the situation. We do not pay them directly with dollars.
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Mm-hmm. Points can be used. Let's say somebody wants to pay child support so they can see their kids. They can earn that. If they want to have their teeth replaced, they could do that. If they wanted to go to college or learn to trade, they could use those funds for that. Anything that moves them towards a life of independence and self-sustainability.
Okay. So, there's not actually a wage.
No, ma'am. What happens is,
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and it's already happened here, people will call me and say, Scott, who do you have that can pass a drug test, has a strong work ethic, and we learned that because they were working for us first,
and
either has a skill set, we do have a shop, we build custom furniture, we have a CNC shop, we also have a laser cutting shop. So, we're teaching people how to use that equipment and get used to using ‸ computers and things like that. And so, they call us and they say, again, who's got the work ethic? And I can say, here's who can pass the drug test, here's who got the work ethic, and here's who's teachable, and what have you.
Okay. And so, do you have, like, do they have rental agreements? Are there written agreements? Yes, ma'am. They have
a program. They are in a program. So, there's not a rental. They are a guest there.
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Okay.
We
normally give 72 hours, but depending on what happened, ‸ we would make it shut down faster than that if we had to. Our experience is we just really don't have to do that. Most of our residents stay with us anywhere between
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And that's usually if they came in, because a lot of these folks have come in and they've lost a spouse. They've gone through, a lot of the females have gone through abuse. There's financial situations, and so it takes us a while to clean up those health and financial or legal situations before they can move on.
Okay.
So,
I remember when you came to talk with us about setting up the operation.
Yes, ma'am.
And I remember you really clearly stating that
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and the plan was, and your model was that you have vans, and you go out to the camps, you bring people back, you kind of inventory their needs,
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But that they were basically being transported so that there wasn't actually ‸ homeless residents ‸ on the campus. Correct. And so,
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We
actually, in fact, when we first bought the property,
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‸ the zoning that it is was what the zoning was just a couple ‸ years ago. And
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by 50, or excuse me, not highway 50, US 1. That's how that came about. So, we're actually going back to the original zoning that it was a couple years ago. The plan has always been to have transitional housing. That's never been a question. It's where and how we would do that. That was, we did not, at the time, have a specific desire or need or trying to figure out what we have. But we also knew, based on what we bought, that the understanding that was given to us when we sat down with everybody at the city was, that's what this property had been. And so, that's why I took you, if you recall, to the houses and to explain to you how it went.
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I don't recall.
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But we did that specifically so everybody was very clear what our long-term range was and what we were going to do. You know, the challenge is, is everybody ‸ wants to say, not in my backyard. And the problem is, is they're literally in your backyard. And with our assistance and with our expertise and what we do, and we've
been
doing it for 13 years, we can be a difference in this community.
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We're taking care of that 77-year-old woman that came in the other day. We're taking care of that woman with four children under the age of 10 that came in today. We don't discriminate to who we help, but we discriminate on how we help. And what I mean by that is, if you're a sexual offender or something like that, you cannot be anywhere near that property. If you have a violent history, you cannot be anywhere near that property.
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The people we have are people that literally got broadsided by life. Something that could happen to each and every person in this room.
In fact,
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serve grew up in this community, went to Cocoa High School, went to Rockwoods High School, had homes in this community. These are not people that just showed up from nowhere. They've lived here. This is their home. They just don't have a roof over their head. And often, if you do the research, you find there's some type of trauma involved. And often, it's loss of a spouse. It's loss of a child. You know, I shared a while back that you don't have a drug problem in this community. You have a homeless problem in this community. Drug addicts don't become homeless. Homeless people become drug addicts. And I'm talking to you by someone.
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I mean, the program is ‸ laudable.
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And I support that. But I'm also sympathetic to the neighborhood who is not expecting, who moves in, not expecting to have high density and that sort of transitional housing. Mostly, I take note of comments by Ms. Weisberg. I think ‸ we need to look at all ‸ the ways that we could tackle this. It's not necessarily by a future land use change.
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Yes.
Thank you very much, ma'am.
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All right. So I take what the citizens that came in and their concerns, I take it serious. However, when you look at the homeless problem here, ‸ I heard someone state that they're seeing more foot traffic in their neighborhood. That's literally everywhere, not just off of Forest Avenue, all the ‸ way on the north end of Cocoa, south end, west end, anywhere you look around, there's more homeless people. And that's because of the climate around the state, but the higher cost of housing and all kind of other issues.
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had concerns when they first announced they were coming here, too. And I actually reached out and I got informed on what's going on.
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they're taking these people and giving them resources so they don't have to do that. As he stated, you know, there's always open doors over there. And I see them everywhere announcing the plans of what they're doing.
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What's the app called? Is it Neighbors?
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I'm sorry. He even has his own magazine that they ship out and show what's going on in the program.
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I would just ask people to actually reach out, get informed before you start making these assumptions. And ‸ again, being homeless is not a crime. And one reason ‸ we do see a lot of homeless here because other communities are dumping them here. I've actually witnessed it. They're being dumped in the city of Coco. So we can either turn a blind eye to it and have an even bigger issue that we have to deal with, or we can work with our partners, work with our resources and address this problem.
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Also, in terms of this exact neighborhood, just maybe a couple feet north of the Wells Fargo, which is next door, there was once a probation office right there where there was a high influx of people actually with criminal backgrounds. And to my knowledge, I don't recall us having any major issues of increasing thefts at that time. I could be wrong,
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I would just ask that we all inform ourselves, get knowledge before we demonize a potential good project to help out. So, that's it.
Okay. Thank you very much. Now, Mr. Ballou, single parents will be in the transitional homes, correct? Yes, sir. No husband and wife. It would either be a father
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We aren't really set up to do like a large situation like that. Typically, our clientele, if it's so ish that we don't do families, full families, I mean, I suppose that we don't have to do that. But typically, 90% are typically single women ‸ with children on occasion because nobody in the entire state of Florida will house a single man with a single son over the age of 11. That's considered puberty, so they're not allowed into any shelter. There's no place to go except in your car if you have one or
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Okay.
We have a question. I just also, back to inform yourselves, ‸ that neighborhood that you showed me that you guys revitalized and went apart, those houses, previous to you getting it,
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down. It was a ran down neighborhood.
Yes, sir.
If you guys just take a chance and let him show you these properties, how they
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this whole street, ‸ it's very nice. ‸ They come in and
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Something that you can be proud to say is next door to you. So I don't think you're
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Thank you, sir. Have you ever rejected anyone? Have you ever rejected anybody? Yes. ‸ I mean, without the individuals with certain attachments, major felonies, your pedophiles, I mean, outside of them, have you ever rejected a single parent with a family,
with
children that met the criteria? Have you ever told them no within the city limits of Cocoa?
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there's nowhere for them to go? Yes. And where do they go, sir? They come to us. Thank you, sir. So when someone is down on their luck, and we've all been there, there's no one immune to it. I get it. Some people like you alluded to, you don't want it in your backyard.
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Deputy Mayor, excuse me.
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again, ma'am?
Uh-huh.
Okay, after we hear from Councilwoman Cost, then I'll call the issues. Go ahead, sir.
Yeah, just a few things. So ‸ inside of majority of neighborhoods in Brevard County, in pretty much every city in Brevard, there's homes inside of neighborhoods that have homeless population living in homes ‸ from the homeless coalition, foster care programs. There are juvenile group homes, which I worked at for years, and that host families in need inside of residential neighborhoods. They're always going to be concerned. So residents that are here that are against
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we ‸ understand. People who don't live in your neighborhood may not understand where you're coming from, but we have to be listening to your thoughts. We understand what you're saying. But also, there's another population that we must care for. Just recently, you know, it's kind of hard to talk about it, but
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making over $140,000 a year. She is right now barefoot in Provost Park, right now.
Mm-hmm.
Okay,
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So we understand your concerns 100%. And so one of my questions for you, Mr. Blue, so when residents come who need help, how is the security, ‸ do you have a relationship with the police department? Is there security that will be there at night? Because I think that's some of the concerns maybe with someone stays, what's going to stop them from, you know, having that binge night or whatever the case may be, and they just leave and go through the neighborhood and just go crazy? What is that process?
Yes, sir. In fact, we've had it and so far enjoyed a great relationship with the Cocoa Police Department and several of individual sheriff deputies throughout Brevard County. We've gotten calls from the department on situations. We've had homeless people brought to us on occasion. And that's the way it works. That's how we do it over in Orange County, and it worked.
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extra set of eyes. As far as on the property itself, as I stated, each one of our properties has a staff member living on it. So there's someone there all the time. But I will also tell you with those 45 cameras, what do you want to see? I'll ‸ show you right now. You can't pass gas in that property without me knowing it. And I mean, it's just really that, it's that tight. And then, like I said, we've got it set up in such a way that it's protected with codes. There's ‸ code, keypads to get to every place over there. And if
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to know something. We're more than happy to do that.
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That's not what we're here for. We're here to, instead of just perpetuating homelessness, which is typically what most organizations do in all fairness, we're looking to make a difference and find those folks that we can move on out of homelessness. But also get the care for those that are mentally ill, are physically ‸ and mentally disabled,
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populations right now beside young families because we have no affordable housing. It just doesn't exist. And I'm not talking about Section 8 housing. I'm talking about the house that most of us grew up in. Most of us
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impossible to rent. So when are you going to save? We have programs set forth to ‸ help them and make them save money and get back ‸ on their feet. But those ones that we can't, a couple things, and we've shared this with the merchants downtown, and you should already be starting to notice it, is we're going to hide them in plain sight by allowing them to come in for showers, haircuts, medical care for my medical team. Today we treated nine people in medical. We had 66 homeless people come in today. You have an exorbitant amount of females in this area. We're seeing right now roughly of the homeless population, 35% to possibly higher than that are females.
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never seen anything like that. You have a huge group of disabled, and I'm not talking about mentally ill. That's a whole other thing itself. However, even with those folks, ‸ with the psychiatric nurse practitioner that's on my staff,
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on medications that will help them do better. But the reality of it is, is not having a state tax in the state of Florida, a lot of that just gets pushed back out of your street. And Matthew's Hope and nobody else, we can make a dent and we can make it better, but until much bigger people in all of it can do something about that, we can't change that.
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is senior citizens. We have a huge population of seniors that have pensions, but those pensions weren't designed for this economy, and
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spouse, they're losing their homes, and they've lived here all their lives. And you all have met some of those people. The next behind that is people with mental and physical disabilities.
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mean, literally today, ‸ this last couple months, we've been caring for a woman paraplegic that's homeless.
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We had a girl cry today because she was provided something as simply as tampons. It's tough being a woman out there. ‸ It's tough. When I was homeless, I hated it, but I cannot imagine being a woman and being homeless.
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We will help connect those people with other services and advocate for them for the services they need. And some of them are out there, but nobody is there to hold their hand through the process. And that's what my ministry does. We actually, it's very interesting, it's very biblical on how we do things. I mean, I was on a radio station recently, and they said, Scott, what you're doing is so innovative. And I had to laugh, ‸ nothing
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hate more is when you get quiet on the radio. And I said, yeah, it goes back thousands of years. We simply have gone back to what the Bible said. As a Christian, I'm not going to apologize for that. I follow that.
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something a show across the street? Yeah, I did. Because you know what? I'm human, and I get frustrated when I see a drug deal go down across the street from my property, and I can't do anything about it. So, you know, I am. I'm human just like the folks here. But I tell you what, the biggest challenge I had today is that
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got eight staff members and four volunteers right now that help those 66 people. And I would invite each one of y'all, if you really want to do something about
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community, come and volunteer with us. because we need the help. Because whether I'm here or not, I promise you the homeless are not going anywhere. And ‸ we can make the difference.
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tonight, if it does, what's the next process so that citizens can be involved in ‸ that zoning process?
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Then
he has to go through the zoning, a rezoning of the property. And so, as we talked about earlier,
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Hannah and Scott, you can correct me if I'm wrong.
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the entire property. He's coming back in for the rezoning for only those pieces of the property. That he needs to utilize or to ‸ make some renovation to at this particular point in time. You can correct me if I'm wrong on that.
Is that correct? Yes. Yes.
So,
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so...
I don't know if people know, but if you look, the top of that picture... That wing. That faces Wells Fargo, that whole strip back there.
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Yes, okay. Yeah, I'm
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So good.
But yeah, that side is a bunch of classrooms, ‸ massive classrooms, that would be turned into the small apartments, if you will.
Okay.
‸ So it's all about facing Wells Fargo. We're not looking to add additional structure on the property.
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piece of the property by legal description for the rezoning. So again, the control for the citizens, and obviously the citizens have an opportunity, Mr. Blue, to sit down with you and go over your plans between this meeting and whatever zoning meeting you're coming back to. But again, another fail safe is that the rezonings won't take place on the entire property. They'll take place on portions or fragments or sections of the property. That's all I
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Well, growing up here, my Boy Scout Troop 324 was in that church. And I know the size of the
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down that entire north wall.
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names that I know from days of old.
The
individuals that you have in the system right now, you're working with, are coming in, it's got, you know, they want to do something different. What they're concerned about is somebody
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walks a couple days to get here, and they're not qualified. They have a problem. Do you bust them back where they're from or just let them roam around the neighborhood? That's what they're concerned about.
Anybody we bring in, we take back to where we took them from.
But
what if they walked
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What if there's somebody that just shows up, walks in,
and you don't qualify because you have your set of guidelines? You just push them to the sidewalk and they're in the neighborhood. That's their concerns.
I understand that.
That's their big concerns. I understand that. And that's mine too, ‸ because these names, they went to school with my aunt, and some of those family members went to school with my grandfather and my dad. And, you know, this makes it very hard due to the fact that I understand their concerns. If the individuals that didn't qualify and
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causing problems, they're actually coming out to my park now,
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ripped the door off, you know, their homeless is doing all this stuff. Did they come to you for help and got turned down and back in the neighborhoods? because I was helping an individual friend of mine out have a store downtown, and there was an individual cause and problems in front of it, and I went out to talk to her. And she said, I gave her your direction, and she had nothing but bad things about you to say, and I said, well, you know, I don't know.
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I said, they have rules you have to follow.
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and I called
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But the thing is, there's
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a lot of these individuals
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in the audience, ‸ they don't want their stuff taken. They don't want the hasslement. And it's the people you're helping, they need the help. And it's a good thing. They're never going to ‸ cause any problems.
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qualify are the ones going back to the neighborhood and doing all the problems. That's my concern.
The only, well, here's what I'll say. First off, we don't have any housing now. And we've been doing services now to the homeless here, over 600 people that we have registered.
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And nobody out there even knows we are going to have housing. So if somebody has come from, what do you say, two miles away or whatever, I suppose they can walk into any city. That's the nature of homelessness. You try to go to where you can possibly find some services. You know, I think the difference is, is that, here's the thing, whether we have the housing or not, everything else we're doing there is going to continue. The ‸ difference is, is that we won't be trying to get any off the streets because we won't have the resources to do it. Outside of that, everything we've done, ‸ investment we've made in the property, that all stays the same and we're going to continue to meet the needs of those people that do find us. Generally speaking, 85% of them come from right here in our backyard.
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Are they all homeless?
No.
I mean, I can show you statistic after statistics. They're direct, I said it before earlier, they're direct reflection of our community. 100%. And the difference between what we're asking for and what we're already doing is that we would use that specific area to move people off the streets. Outside of that, the rest of what we do, we're here and we're here to stay. And we've invested heavily in the community. We're going to continue to do so. And we've made it ‸ very clear to the local merchants that we want to work with them. They have called us on occasion, asked us if we could check something out.
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They are, but here's the other side of it. During the pandemic, what ended up happening is a lot of development took place and the woods ‸ disappeared. And when the woods disappeared, where are they going to go?
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you know, many people don't realize Florida is the fastest growing homeless population in the entire country. We're number three in the U.S. for population. If we don't try to do something about it here, we will look like
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I can go right down the list. So you either, you know that whole thing, you pay me now or you pay me later? The reality of it is, is the homeless are here. and they're here in droves. And what we do won't change either way, except it's our hope to take those few people that want to move towards a better life, that simply got broadsided by life in many ways and get them back on their feet. Without housing, that's tough to do. We don't,
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as buying up houses scattered around like you mentioned. I don't know if it's Councilman Goins mentioned that there's homes located in varied places throughout Brevard County that have foster kids and have kids that have gone through the detention system and things like that.
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accountability. ‸ Because here's the thing, your next door neighbor, you might not want it, but if they want it, they will throw you under the bus in about two and a half seconds. They are our best security. They are our absolute best security because they want it so bad. I mean, to get in it, the folks that are coming right now, they don't know it because we can't tell them we have housing. We can't make that promise. That hasn't been done yet. But we know, we know who's fighting for a spot. We know who wants to get off the street. And that's our goal right now is to move on that. That's why we did it just like we did in Orange County.
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years now, but we're 13 years old. The right opportunity came up and we had angel investors help us that want to see something done about it.
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And we're here to be that vessel.
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Well, just
‸ conclude, like everybody else, I support your mission. The operation in Winter Gardens, ‸ stellar. I would recommend as many people as possible take a look at what you're doing. housing. What I wasn't prepared for, what I didn't understand, was the campus was actually going to be housing people. And my big concern here is just giving the neighborhood that notice, which, you know, people feel that they haven't had. So, um, anyway, I certainly wish you good luck. And, um, like I say, I have several friends that are volunteering your community garden and they love it. And, you know, I know you can have a lot of success, but I think it involves working with the neighborhoods too.
And we intend to do that.
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I just wanted to iterate. Um, I don't, it is my belief. Matthew's hope
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to solve all.
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Um, It's going to take more than just Matthew's hope. And I think we as a city have been addressing that.
I
know myself, I crafted up an ordinance to try to address the high cost of rent, which we were seeing people become homeless. And then overnight, the state or, you know, there was a bill passed that pretty much muted that. Um, I know the city council, we've been trying to bring in, uh, projects that address affordable housing. I think we have a couple online right now. Uh,
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Um, Another thing we could do as citizens, vote people in that want to address this issue. It's, it's a statewide issue. It's not just specific to Cocoa. And it's only going to continue to get worse unless we try to address it. Um, and that's it.
Okay. Any other questions? Saying none,
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a motion to approve second and final reading of ordinance number
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at future land use map from amendment to change the
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designation of one parcel of rear property
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from commercial to high density.
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Just going to call the question. All in favor saying aye. Aye. And the nays.
Nay.
Let the record reflect.
We
have four yes and one nay. Proceeding on to I, Mr. Blue, before you move, ‸ you are coming back.
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immediately and directly affected by houses there adjacent to you, please reach out with the olive branch.
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if you want to see a change, be a part of that change. Come join us. There's power in numbers. And I know some will be upset and you have that very right. But I believe in you as a citizen. I believe in this organization and I'm ready for this change to take place. Thank you. God bless.
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consideration of a second and final reading ‸ ordinance
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zoning text amendment regarding accessory structure regulations.
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Second and final reading
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ordinance of the city council
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County, Florida, amending the supplemental district regulations of the zoning ordinance of the city of Cocoa related to accessory structures providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions incorporation into the
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severability and an effective date.
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public hearing item. Mr. Mayor.
Thank you very much. This was approved by PNZ
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July 11th. Council passed the first reading. Mrs. Effervescent Noodleman. Ma'am.
Thank you, sir. As the attorney noted, it is the second and final reading of this ordinance and I'm available to answer any questions.
Do we have any questions
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Return it to the public. You have three minutes, 180 seconds to expound
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Second and final reading. Going once, going twice. Chair like to close this portion to the public and return it to council.
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all in favor by saying aye.
Aye.
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Ordinance
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Zoning text amendment regarding the list
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exception uses related to self-service storage facilities
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and certain sub-districts
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Overlay District and related to
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Esquire. ‸ Second and final reading. Ordinance number 09-2023. An ordinance of the city
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County, Florida, amending appendix A, article 11, section 19 and 22, the zoning ordinance
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to amend the list of permitted and special exception uses related to self-storage facilities in the M2 District and certain sub-districts
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Overlay District and related to retail, automotive, gasoline, fuel sales, and accessory convenience stores and restaurants in the M2 District, providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions
incorporation
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into the code, severability, and an effective date. This is a public hearing item. There haven't been any changes to this ordinance
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Thank you very
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Council passed the first reading
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Mrs.
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you're up, ma'am.
Yes, as the attorney noted, this is the second final reading related to self-storage storage facilities for the M2 zoning district and for changes related to the retail automotive, gasoline, and
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Basically, we are just cleaning up the ‸ zoning for that area and we are allowing for ‸ the addition of self-service storage facilities within M2. The M2 district is located out on Grissom Parkway in that area, So it is outside of the ‸ main interior portion
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and then in addition, we are increasing or clearing up ‸ the special exception requirements, which provides for a minimum spacing of 4,000 linear feet for gasoline service stations capable of serving gas within that area. So I am available for any other questions. after the public hearing. any ‸ individuals who have questions.
Thank you. Do we have any questions for either Mrs. Noodleman, city attorney, city manager, or any staff members pertaining to this particular ordinance? Seeing none,
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to
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and return it to the public. Please come forward, state your name, ‸ please ma'am, or sir.
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Going twice, chair like to close this.
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Yes, we do have your card, ma'am. Thank you.
Good evening. At the risk of slowing you down, Mr. Mayor, councilman, and councilwoman,
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1290 U.S. Highway 1 in Rockledge. We represent ADG Cocoa Holdings, LLC in support of the agenda item.
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their assistance and their recommendation. And we also want to especially thank the members of Planning and Zoning for their attention to and unanimous approval of this matter. Happy to answer any questions if I can. Thank you.
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a pleasure having you here tonight, ma'am. Glad to see you ‸ present. Any questions? Anyone else in the audience?
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Return to the council.
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All in favor by saying aye. Aye. And the nays. Ayes have it unanimously. Proceeding on to item number
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First reading of a PUD, a rezoning ordinance, 10-2023. One of parcel
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A large-scale site, plan, preliminary subdivision consistent with Chapter 18 subdivisions. And appendix A, zoning of the city code and a development agreement for Adamson's Creek. Phase 2 with conditions of 23-437. I have Anna, is it Saunders? Where are you,
man
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Raise your hand. Let me see. Thank you very much. We will let you expound on this particular item.
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first reading of ordinance
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ordinance of the City Council
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property
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more or less, and generally located on Adamson Road, northwest of the intersection of Highway 524 and Interstate 95 and Cocoa, Florida, more particularly depicted and legally described on Exhibit A attached
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from Rural Residential RR1 to Plan Unit Development PUD, Providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions, severability, and an effective date. This is a public hearing item. Mr. Mayor.
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Ms. Neuterman, Mrs. Neuterman, ma'am.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. ‸ So as the city attorney noted, this is an ordinance 10-2023 for the PUD rezoning, and then it's also ‸ in addition to preliminary subdivision and development agreement and large-scale site plan for Adamson Creek Phase 2.
The
map you see is the location of Adamson Creek Phase 2, to the north of the property. ‸ I know it's hard to see on here, but ‸ the red area that you see, that's the Adamson Creek Phase 2. Up here
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And ‸ then to the south is going towards 524. The final project will include 30 single-family homes. There will be recreational space amenities. This subdivision, the lots are 50 feet and by 120, with a depth that equates to 6,000 square feet. Staff does not expect the level of service for public facilities facilities to be diminished beyond their acceptable levels of service with this change. The development agreement for Phase 2 of the project contains 79.13 acres overall with 14.39 acres of land that will be developed. The remaining 64.74 acres of land will be placed in a conservation easement. 50.70 acres is dedicated to the city in lieu of contributions to the Arbor Mitigation Bank. And that is the plan for the Arbor Mitigation. This is the Phase 2 zoning, which will take that. You can see again, this is the Adamson Creek up here in pink. ‸ This is the area that needs to be rezoned to PUD. The future land use, again, here is Adamson Creek up here. Here is the location for Phase 2 that needs to have the future land use changed. The PUD analysis includes the maximum allowed is 4 units per acre,
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The proposed single-family development will be compatible with Adamson Creek neighborhood and with the adjacent residential properties to the west and to the south.
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land use management, securing open space for parks and recreational uses.
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are other factors that may be in play with COVID.
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regarding programming and construction. And that traffic signal that is being noted here would be the traffic signal along 524 and Adamson Road. ‸ Preliminary conversations with FDOT indicate that they may not even support a signal. The preliminary plat, a third-party surveyors, conducted the final plat subdivision review. An applicant will address those comments received before this July 25th meeting. The planning and zoning board did recommend approval at the July 12th meeting for this with the following conditions. The approval of the rezoning to PUD shall be contingent upon the execution of the Adamson Creek
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The approval of the preliminary subdivision shall be conditional upon the correction of the preliminary plat to conform with the new plat review comments provided by Southeastern
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The provided development schedule shall be binding upon the development of Adamson Creek Phase 2. The applicant shall coordinate with FDOT regarding the programming and construction of the proposed improvements at the intersection of Adamson Road and State Road 524. I'm available for any questions and the developer is also available to answer any questions.
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What is the value of the tree mitigation? First of all, what is the value of the conservation property that is being proposed to give as a conservation easement as mitigation for the trees?
I will need to get that information and bring it back to you. I do not have that. Do
we have any idea what the tree mitigation is? Any estimates were done?
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Mrs. Saunders.
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that
information with me.
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No harm, no foul. Mrs. Saunders, are you at liberty to
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by her?
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Our
councilwoman calls, ma'am.
I would be happy to expand on it if I had the information with me, but I do not. And I do not want to mislead you and give you ‸ information that's not correct. So I'm happy to pull that together
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tomorrow to staff so that you have it for the second reading.
‸ Okay. It's not nice to fool with Mother Nature.
No, ‸ so we're doing our very best to do that.
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No.
All right. Any other questions by the council?
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open it to the public. ‸ If you have any questions, come up and speak. So Ms. Saunders, would you like to come back up? All right.
Yeah, good evening. Just very briefly, the staff report is obviously very thorough. It's been a long night already, so I'm going to do my best to keep it short. This is just the final phase of Adamson Creek. We have access through the
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to the north, so there's not an additional access on Adamson Road itself. We've got our DEP permits. We've got our St. John's permit. We're ready to go as soon as we get ‸ approval.
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on the
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We're excited.
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Otherwise, I commend your staff on a great staff report. And thank you for making my job so simple.
Thank you. All right. Anyone else would like to come up and speak on this matter?
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‸ Going to close it from the public, open it back to the council.
Motion approved.
Second. All in favor, say aye. Aye.
‸ Ask
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get the motion. I'm sorry. You got the motion?
Yeah.
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all in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Any nays? Unanimous?
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Proceeding on to item number five.
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A, zoning article 22-23-438.
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County, Florida, amending the official zoning map designation of one parcel of real property, totaling 0.64 acres, more or less, and generally located on Ruth Street, northeast of the intersection of Jackson Street and Ruth Street
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more particularly depicted and legally described on Exhibit A, attached here to, from county single-family residential RU19 to city multiple-family dwelling RU215, providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances, resolution, severability, and an effective date. This is first reading and public hearing item, Mayor.
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And yes, this too was approved by PNZ July 12-23. Mrs. Noodleman, you have a presentation for us, Mayor?
Hi.
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Which one of you all are coming up?
I have a
presentation. Yeah, we're on number five. We're on
‸ number five. 11-2023, sir.
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God bless you.
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Sharing Center has requested this change, the zoning map amendment, to allow for some expansions that they would like to do for social services through special exceptions. And the rezoning states
that
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Central Brevard Sharing Center intends to expand their operations to include service parking, driveways, and an administrative facility no taller than two stories, though this is not binding on the applicant. The rezoning will provide a transitional use
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uses along 520 and the single-family residential uses to the south and east, and will provide a natural expansion of the Central Brevard Sharing Center. The map located here, you can see in red, this is the area that they are requesting the changes. Again, this is the Sharing Center requesting that location change and the Sharing Center is right next to there. This is the future land use map change. Again, it is cleaning up that area, making it consistent with the rest of the property. The Planning and Zoning Board did recommend approval at the July 12th Planning and Zoning Meeting to City Council for this zoning map designation of the one parcel from Brevard County single-family residential to city multifamily residential zoning
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I'm available for any questions.
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I don't see them present in the audience to speak on behalf.
I support this. I know we have some of the board members here.
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I might get beat up tonight. Okay, ‸ Do we have any questions
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or City Manager or Mrs. Newton from Council? Send a chair like and close this portion to Council and open to the public. Please come forward and state your name and your address for us, please, for Ordinance Number 11-2023 first reading. going once, going twice. If you ever tended to work
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just raise your hand. Yes, if they had you in the kitchen working. Yeah, right on. Serving for the people by the people. That's what it's all about.
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Council.
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Well, the motion on the floor by Councilman Dowell. Second by Deputy Mayor Hearns. He's seconded it. Chair's going to call the question. All in favor by saying aye. Aye. And then nays. Ayes have it. Unanimous.
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Okay, conduct the final public hearing on the proposed fiscal year 2023 backslash 2024 action plan
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excuse me,
approved
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the plan for the submission of HUD and
authorizing
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mayor to sign all subsequent certifications and
agreements.
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for, you all know,
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Housing Authority, operational funds,
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You all know this routine. Community Service, Family Promise. Yes, excuse me,
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Yes, Mr. Mayor. So the city anticipates receiving
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of CDBG funds for the fiscal year 2023-2024. The projects included for this plan is the Community Services Council Meals on Wheels program
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Family Promise of Brevard to provide some homeless services for families $5,250.
The
Central Brevard Sharing Center services assistance to families of homelessness and special risk of homelessness, $5,000. Salvation Army, same thing, shelter operations and for homeless and the amount of $3,791.35. The repayment of the Section 108 loan, which is for the
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of $77,188.65 and the remaining funds are for CDBG admin and fair housing, which is a requirement of HUD at $32,129. Additionally, our Home Grant Award, which is the Home Grant is part of our Home Consortium through Brevard County. The Brevard County Home Consortium consists of several agencies, Brevard County,
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Titusville, Melbourne, and Palm Bay. And our allocation for fiscal year 2023-2024 is $76,044. That includes $7,604 for county admin
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our first-time Home Buyer Assistance program of $57,033 and then the Community Housing Development Assistance of $11,406. All of these amounts are governed by certain percentages that we are required by HUD to administer the services
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and we anticipate using this first-time Home Buyer Assistance program to serve several applicants for construction or purchase of homes within the City
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in fiscal year 2023-2024. This is a second and final reading and the action plan will be submitted to HUD upon approval. Thank you.
Okay, thank you very much, Mrs. Nooneman. Do we have any questions for Mrs.
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Seeing none, this is a public hearing. Chair will let it close to the council and return it to the public. Please come forward and state your name and your address.
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and I will give you some additional time if necessary. going once, going twice, chair light closes portion to the public and return it to council. What are the wishes of council?
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Second. Got a motion on the floor
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second by Councilman Dow.
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All
in favor by saying aye. Aye. Any nays? Ayes have it unanimously. Proceeding on to item number
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I do have some cards in the audience, too, from Mr. Murphy. And I think I may have. Okay, that's the only card
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Okay. This is for the first reading of ordinance number 14-2023, adopting a large-scale comprehensive plan
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adopting a large-scale comprehensive plan
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to the transportation element and capital improvements, elements removing minimum level of service standards
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Asquire
Garganese.
Okay,
ordinance number 14-2023, an ordinance of the City Council
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Florida, adopting a large-scale comprehensive plan
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amendment to the transportation element and capital improvements element, removing minimum level of service standards for State Road 524, providing data and analysis and the legal basis set forth in the recitals to support the proposed comprehensive plan amendment, providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions incorporation into the comprehensive plan, severability, and an effective date and legal status of the plan amendment. This is the transmittal slash first hearing for this proposed comprehensive plan amendment. If passed, it will be transmitted to the Department of Commerce now for review by the state reviewing agencies and
it'll
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come back to you for an adoption hearing in about 60 days. Mayor.
Thank you,
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Any questions? Saying none, chair like to close this portion.
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to the public. Steve Murphy.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
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Approximately 18 months ago when we were going through the
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I stood up and made comments to the City Council regarding 524 traffic.
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At that time, I was told by council to not worry
about it,
that 524 was being handled. And now we come with this ordinance here that basically wants to remove the minimum acceptable requirements there, go from a D because they would have to go from a D to an E or an F which are unstable and heavily congested traffic. Rather than addressing the problem, we're just passing off on
the
problem. In addition, there are two items on the staff agenda today.
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that will add additional traffic to 524. It's my recommendation that we do not pass this and that we address the real problem and get the problem and the traffic fixed on 524 Because there are issues there specifically regarding firehouse number 3 that need to be addressed and the service they have to provide and that congestion that will occur on 524 will affect service and possibly even lives as a result of it. Thank you very much.
Thank you very much, Mr. Murphy. Do we have any other additional
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in the audience? Seeing none, Chair,
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to the audience
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What
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Thank you.
Yeah, I am... This really gives me heartburn. I'm really concerned about 524. I sit on the Space Coast TPO. This project is number 4. What we're hoping here are that impact fees are enough that we can present that. We can basically lobby to be pushed up in line, but we're still looking at probably 10 years before that road is really significantly improved. We've got a fire station over there as you know. And just... I feel like we're opening the floodgates here because when I spoke with the city manager about this there evidently are a number of pre-applications in the area.
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We already know it's a pretty crowded area. Isn't there anything short of getting ‸ rid of the levels of service? Isn't there anything short of this? Can we just restrict it to... And then get a little choosy about what we actually select to go over there? Because right now it's...
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Does this have to be completely... Do we have no other options? Because this could get... Even in our best case scenario, this could get really hairy over there. I've lived in places where you sat in traffic for hours where you had to debate whether or not it was worth going out to get something. And the people that live here now, many of them are roadway refugees from the south even. So, you know, there's some serious concerns
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how this will impact the quality of life as well as the safety of citizens in the area. Is there anything short of getting rid of level of service? ‸ Is my question.
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‸ A
couple of corrections
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So, I don't think we were reviewing Allegra 18 months ago so you couldn't have made that promise with regards to ‸ level of service. Obviously, Cirrus was. Cirrus is counted. Their traffic is already counted and considered
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is not an issue.
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in terms of its traffic counts there. So you have a state road that runs through the city. And because it's a state road, you have no control over when they're going to improve that road. And so the best case scenario is ‸ that you remove the minimum level of service. You work with the state agency. You work with federal agencies. As the councilwoman said there, it's actually moved up more than a number of spaces on the priority listing for the TPO. And so that's ‸ a great sign that it'll be in the top five priority of the TPO with regards to with regards to the regional, categories and with regards to the other categories.
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This is a, this is ‸ a ‸ removal of the level of service, but with ‸ a plan to actually provide some financial assistance to the Department of Transportation to actually, and as the councilwoman said, to accelerate the timeline for the project.
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That final draft is, is slated to be let in September, September of this year.
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The presentation talks about your ability to actually go to the, the Department of Transportation and say that we have the dollars in hand to actually fund design. And so once design is funded, that is actually moved into, normally moved into the five-year work plan for FDOT. we have that, we have approximately
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in impact fees to our credit as of June of this year. And those projects that are under review are approximately that same amount in impact fees. So not only do we have an ability to fund the design, we have an ability to affect the right-of-way acquisition. The right-of-way acquisition is, is a, is a, mostly stormwater retention and detention there. You have significant properties off of 524 that could be utilized in cooperation with FDOT for their stormwater right-of-way requirements there. So, so we're in a, when a pretty good position when it comes to that. In fact, the Allegra, uh, project actually has a donation of land that may actually, uh, be able to assist us in adding to our inventory of properties that could assist with stormwater for, for the widening of this road. Um, and,
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I'll
draw your attention to the ordinance And if you look at the roadways in the city, you'll see that most of them are levels of services, levels of service D and E. And so, this is a roadway, uh, just like any other roadway in the city. As a matter of fact,
uh,
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the US one doesn't have a, any level of service. And so there are roadways in the city currently that don't have a level of service. And so again, it's a request to remove the level of services. Um, Charlene, go back to the, to the chart, um, that talks about where the deficiencies are. And so there are three segments of 524. Um, and you'll see the remaining trips, um, um, once those projects are approved.
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um, once the, the, uh, the, uh, maximum, uh, annual or average volume is approved or adjusted, uh, after result of the project, then you'll have, um, go back, flip back to the one you were on,
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You'll have 4,000, uh, 1,400 trips. Again, these are all the projects that are being considered. This is after the project. This is after the road is widened.
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And so we're not talking about the entire stretch of roadway. We're talking about the Cox to Industry Road there. Um, with regards to the Cirrus project, FDOT is requiring, uh, Cirrus project to actually do a turn lane coming off of Industry Road. And so, um, the TPO has, uh, promised that they will partner with us, uh, to go after, uh, state dollars to prioritize it and, and perhaps even set aside some of their dollars there. But most significantly is that, uh, it's moved up on the two priority categories, which puts it in, uh, the likely funding, uh, realm for when the next, um, um, five-year work plan comes out from, from FDOT. Charlene, flip,
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Thank you. Keep.
Okay. So,
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everything goes, best-case scenario, what are we talking about?
I think best-case scenario, and again, all the new projects aren't coming on. I think we're in the, we're in the five-year work plan within the next, uh, three to five years.
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it is not asking you, I am not asking you to remove ‸ minimum level of services,
when
minimum, minimum level of service without a plan to actually go and get the funding to improve the roadway.
Well, when you say, um, because I know, okay, three to four years to get on the work plan, but to actually build the road, we're still talking about a decade.
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where we have the real shortage? What about being able to restrict any more development or is it because everything feeds onto that and ends up there?
Yeah,
I
mean, it depends on,
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is there, so they're gonna ‸ have to traverse, uh, other sections of the roadway to get there. And so, but I don't know that it's 10 years from now.
I
mean, that's, that's a guess on your part. It would be a guess on my part. Uh, ‸ this allows us to go and work with FDOT, go and work with TPO, uh, go and work with the state, uh, go and work with the feds. Um, We just had a meeting with us and Senator Rubio's district coordinator and we talked extensively about this project.
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are there no other alternatives there. The other alternative is you, um, you just simply aren't able to approve these projects because you don't have the capacity and as you know,
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of government. The new construction tax revenue will significantly fund probably three quarters of what all the firefighters and the officers are in here for tonight. ‸ And so if we don't have an ability to approve projects ‸ and allow the city to continue to grow, then the city is at a standstill in terms of the public services it, uh, it can provide. And so last year, again, just to reiterate, um, we were ranked overall number 11.
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in the, in the, in the conversation with FDOT. Number four is actually again, submitted to FDOT as the, as a, a TPO priority.
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Well, we're competing, we're competing at number four as opposed to number 11 last year ‸ where we weren't even in the conversation. And so in terms of the state rank, um, we're number two. Uh, I think Cape Canaveral may be number one or Minton Road may be number one, but last year we were number six or seven.
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which signifies, uh,
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transportation, planning organizations commitment to actually
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city. It is about, uh, economic development because I believe that this could potentially be the, a route to, um, Brightline.
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uh, state funding, we're, we're looking at the federal infrastructure bill and we're looking at the moving Florida forward funding. Um, and so, again, uh, this is necessary for the continued growth of the city.
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I'll remind the council that you have a, a, uh, stipulated settlement agreement and a settlement ‸ implementation agreement for, I knew I was going to forget the name of it.
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And so, I, I don't know how you, uh, are, are bound by those agreements and deny that project because of traffic and currency. And so, I think this is the best, most creative, most forward-thinking way to actually accelerate, um, the, um, the, uh, continued growth of the city and the development of that quarter.
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So, is there, we talked about the projects we have now three years to complete. When we get to the point where we really see a problem developing there, do we manage that through approving the PUDs? I mean, if we ‸ reach a point, which we conceivably could,
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it is, you know, we end up, the quality of life is so degraded by everyone that lives there and our ability to even get fire and police out.
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or put on whole projects or?
‸ You can't deny them if you don't have a minimum level of service requirement.
I
guess at some point in time, you could actually go back and ‸ add the road way back to, and Anthony make sure I'm correct on this, you could add the road way back to the transportation and the capital element of the comprehensive plan.
I mean, yeah, the council could reestablish
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service, certainly.
Okay.
Okay, well, I think, like I said, this really gives me heartburn. This is one of those really tough decisions sitting up here because this could end up being a real problem for us. Of course, we'll be gone. But, I'm also cognizant of wanting to attract that train station. And, to a large degree, the development of that roadway will really make us more attractive for that.
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Is that it, ma'am? Yeah. Thank you.
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and then I'm going
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call the question.
Yes, sir. Thank you. So, I know Mr. Murphy came up and said that the council said that we wasn't worried about the 524 traffic issues.
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misstatement. Number one, I know I did not say that at all. But what I do understand is that DOT has the power on that particular roadway. So,
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But, like the city manager said, we need revenue. And, we have
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And I believe that with her due diligence, she's going to fight as hard as she can for the city
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that project where it needs to be.
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matter who our competition may be.
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Thank you.
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sir? Thank you, sir. Good night.
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Councilman Dowell, then we're going to call the question.
I exit off Westminster ‸ 524 all the time. On Friday evenings, I do go through Sherwood out to the stoplight. But, I really haven't seen any serious traffic stoppage from Cox Road to Publix Where it slows down is around the corner to Clear Lake. And I believe that's getting ready to get addressed. Around the Walmart, it's three or four stoplights to go through Walmart. But, I haven't had a really serious problem
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any close calls and I go in and out all the time. So, we need to get this done. And, since I had the first conversation with DOT when we're out here at the Civic Center, the date for the plan has gotten moved up further and further and further. So, I think they're going to get it addressed as soon as possible. Thank you.
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Okay,
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going to call for question all in favor saying aye. Aye. Aye. Any nays?
Go forward. Mr. ‸ Mayor,
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Thank you. Before you guys move on, ‸ just
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‸ the city's impact fee revenue.
And
‸ so, by approving this, I'm also assuming that you all are giving me permission to go out there and talk.
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I don't know about the rest, but you can count on us. We'll be the best.
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being physical sound, a champion of seven positive superlative awards from my finance department over there. Thank you. Yes, sir. Item number eight, pass on first reading ordinance number 13-2023, zoning map amendment consistent with appendix A zoning article 21 to change the zoning map of approximately 9.1 acres, a portion of single parcel to the State Road 520 from Bavard County BU-1-1 general retail commercial ‸ to city of Coco CG general commercial. Yes, sir. This is Mike Erdman. This is the first reading. I do support this project. This is ‸ a piece of property that was originally pertaining to the county, and we're addressing that issue.
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County, Florida, amending the official zoning map designation of a portion of one parcel of real property
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more or less, and generally located on State Road 520 at the northwest corner of
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and State Road 520
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More particularly depicted and legally described on Exhibit A attached here,
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BU 1, general retail commercial
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CG general commercial providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances, resolution, severability, and an effective date. This is also a public hearing item. Mr.
Mayor. Thank you,
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sir. Mrs.
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ma'am?
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yes, ma'am.
As
the attorney noted, this is ordinance 13-2023 ‸ relating to Mike Erdman. So the subject property was annexed into the City of Coco in 2006 and a commercial land use designation was assigned to the project to the property, but no zoning map designation ‸ was ever assigned to the property.
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Erdman property to be consistent with all of the
city
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zonings. And you can see the map here where the property is located. Right now, This is the vacant parcel right here in front of the Mike Erdman Nissan and Toyota area.
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this just addresses the zoning map, cleans it up, makes it CG general commercial, which is the subject property of where Mike Erdman is located. And again, addressing the future land use to correct that and make it match the rest of the properties there. Planning and zoning board did recommend approval to the City Council for this zoning map amendment from Brevard County, BU1 general retail commercial to city of Coco, CG. General commercial, this is first reading, And if you have any questions, I'll be available to answer them.
We have any questions for Mrs. Newton because she's like, we are like Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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Chair, I'd like ‸ to close this portion of the council and return it to the public. What are the wishes of the public? Please come forward, state your name and your address. You have three minutes to elaborate, expound, discuss this particular ordinance, number 13-2023.
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and return it to council.
Motion
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approve.
We got a motion on the floor
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call the question. All
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favor, saying aye.
Aye.
And in a's, ayes. Have it unanimously. Proceeding on to the last item under public hearing, first reading ordinance dash 12-2023, a zoning map amendment consistent with appendix A, zoning. Retabled that. Oh, that's right. We did.
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Thank you.
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That's about time, man. Right on. Item number seven. Took the years. Yeah, that's all ‸ right.
our
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number eight, city business. Here we go.
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Come on. We have to do three, it's a three-prong thing here, you know.
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Please, sir. Thank you.
approve
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resolution. That's the first thing, uh, 2023-078, establishing the rollback rate. ‸ Mrs. Noodle, uh, excuse me, Mrs. Bowman is gonna ‸ give us a number. I can cite you that number, but I'll let her
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seven awards for being physical sound. Proposed millage rate for the purpose of notification to the taxpayers
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and
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fiscal year 2024 budget. It is also recommended for the city manager to be instructed to complete the Florida Department of Revenue's certification of taxable value forms,
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Like we stated, there's gonna ‸ be a multi-prong to this. We're gonna ‸ talk about the rollback, and then we're gonna ‸ talk about the millage rate. So without further ado, the floor is yours, Mrs. Bowman.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Yes,
ma'am. This is the time of the year, every year that we go through and we establish what the proposed millage rate is going to be, which will, the budget will be developed, and then
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come back to you in September for adoption of a tentative and then final millage rate and the budget itself. In addition, state law ‸ requires that we establish what the rollback rate is.
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and
I will go through the different millage rates as I go through the presentation so that we can publicly state what that rollback rate is. So at this meeting, as I said, we're requesting that you approve the resolution, which establishes the rollback rate. The rollback rate is 5.8285 mils in compliance with the trim statutes. We're requesting adoption of a proposed millage rate. in accordance, again, with the trim statutes.
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to be. I would like to note that the minimum requirement for the millage rate that's being proposed tonight is a regular majority vote. We had discussed previously about a unanimous vote, and I did some checking with the Department of Revenue on the trim voting requirements because they're quite complex, and got confirmation that it is just a simple majority vote tonight on the millage rate that's going to be presented.
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hearing to be held on September 12th at 6 p.m.
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And of note, this public hearing will go on the trim notice, which is your notice of proposed property taxes that's mailed out by the property appraiser in August
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we had an increase, a nice increase
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in our property values. 71 million of that was due to new construction.
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of that total valuation. So we did have a pretty healthy year for property values, ‸ which was due to increase in assessed value in addition to that new construction. And so as we show you every year, this is kind of a graphical view of the chart that I just showed you. And as you can see and on the chart on the previous slide, it showed this is finally in
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we will drop off all the negative revenue from the Great Recession and we'll start having all positive numbers and positive growth on the slide, hopefully continuing well into the future. So this is a review of what the city's millage rates have been. Of note, in 2015, from 2015 to 2021, it was the same millage rate at 5.979
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discussed at the budget workshop, this information here is prepared with an increase in the millage rate of 0.05 mils. So it has been prepared with a millage rate of 6.9532 mils. That primarily being to assist with increases in public safety wages and retention and attract recruitment. So overall, bringing the millage rate up at 6.9532 mils, that should allow us to recognize revenue of about $2.2 million,
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in our
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So there are several things that you consider for options you can consider for the millage rate. You can keep it the same. We're showing you the final gross taxable values and the revenue that we were projected to collect. Of note, we don't collect everything. State statute says we need to budget at least 95% of the revenue that we anticipate. And sometimes it takes a year or two before we get full collection of that. But that's the projection that we should be able to collect from the year. As I stated previously,
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millage rate is at 6.9532 mils,
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we would get an increase of about $1.4 million in Avalorum revenue. If we went with the rollback rate of
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we would actually have a reduction in revenue from last year of $441,340.
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as 10 mils. And if you chose to go that high, you would realize about $6.8 million
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And ‸ this chart does take into account that new construction. So one thing that happens with the city is the city gets
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but they need to pay the CRAs their share
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that are collected.
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‸ into ‸ the CRAs and what the difference is from the prior fiscal year using the, both the proposed millage rate at the 6.9532 mils and at the rollback rate, of 5.8285 mils. If you'll notice all the rollback rates are showing that there would be a loss in revenue for the CRAs. So we always take a look at what the other cities are doing in comparison
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millage rate. But if you take a look at the Avalorum taxes that we're receiving, we're at about the fourth or fifth from the bottom. There are a few of the cities that are keeping their millage rate the same, such as Cocoa Beach and Palm Bay. And then some of them are just decreasing their taxes only slightly. And some of these cities, again have experienced strong growth. So again, ‸ the budget was prepared right now with a millage rate increase of 0.05 mils.
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cities, as Ms. Bowman said there, we're collecting the least amount of revenues. You see in the Atlantic and Indian Harbor Beach and Melbourne Beach are much smaller cities than we are.
And
so, you know, just as you look at that slide there, obviously, there are a lot of people going above rollback, some less than current there. ‸ No one, not a whole lot of people are actually going to roll back there.
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larger cities, still collects ‸ a fairly small amount of property tax revenue.
Thank you, Mr. Whitney. And I'll show you a little bit of a breakout of the parcels and the revenue collected from the different categories in just a moment
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So again, at this hearing today, we're requesting
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And once again,
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And I will note again that that includes just the appreciation
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property values in addition to the revenue
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So I'll show you in a couple slides
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We're having to dip into this recurring revenue that we're getting from the increase in the property values. So we show you all, because obviously there's a concern about raising the millage rate, what that impact would be for homes that are valued at different rates. So if we took
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last year
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with a homestead exemption
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With this millage increase, they would be paying
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or a $46 increase. And keep in mind
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is a general fund revenue that's being used to pay for the police, the fire, public works, and all of recreation and the administrative staff. So the average citizen
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for those services. And then again, I'm showing you a $150,000 home getting capped with a 3% increase with the Save Our Homes, which I'll go into in just a minute. But if you bought your house at a certain time, you're going to have a cap on how much your property value can increase. So the property value is capped on that. plus increasing
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that home would be
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in
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And then this slide is showing you additionally a $200,000 home and a $300,000 home. And so those properties would experience anything from $117
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Of note, ‸ and I'll go into it in just a minute, it's hard to say exactly what the impact is for the 9,000 plus parcels in the city
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because every parcel has its own story to tell. The person could have owned their home for a long time.
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They could have the $50,000 exemption. They could have lots of other exemptions.
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of property was valued at ‸ that with the homestead exemptions, that that's the impact, the financial impact to the property owner. So this slide is showing you out of the 9,130 parcels that the city has, what the makeup is. You'll see up at the top there's 649 parcels that aren't paying anything in property taxes.
Could you reiterate that once again, ma'am, please? I'm sorry.
Yes, sir.
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that are paying zero.
Zero property taxes.
Zero
property taxes. And if you look at homes valued
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of your tax base. Now, the new development has helped that.
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24. And ‸ the percentage has gone from 89% down to 83%. So that new, the new homes that are coming in that have a higher value are helping to try and redistribute some of that, the value and the revenue that we collect from those properties. and if you'll note, there are five parcels that are valued over $10 million. And that's your commercial property, which I'll show you in just a moment. ‸ So to understand Avalorum and your property taxes, you need to understand the different definitions. So the first definition is market value. Market value is if you sold your home is the net proceeds that you would get after paying your closing costs. And that's also referred to as just value. The next type of value is called the assessed value. So the property ‸ appraiser goes in and sets an assessed value on your property that's a capped value before other exemptions. And
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school board type assessed values and then non-school board assessed values.
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in the city. And then lastly, you have your taxable value. and that's what the homeowner pays taxes on.
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that taxable value. And that's what we focus on is how much are we going to get from the taxes that we levy based on that taxable value. So to show you another way, you take your assessed value, you subtract all of your exemptions, of which there are many, and you wind up with the taxable value.
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just say, we can look on average, and I'll show you in just a moment dollar-wise, but it's kind of hard to globally say an impact for every single piece of property.
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we kind of average it out. And this is to explain to you the Save Our Homes assessment cap. Back in 1995, voters voted and said, yes, I want to limit the taxes. If some of you will recall or had homeownership back then, people were being taxed out of their homes. And so the Save Our Homes was put in place so that people didn't get taxed out of their homes because the property values were rising so significantly.
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3% or the change in the national CPI.
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note, you have to apply for the homestead exemption and qualify. There's qualifications to that as well to be able to receive that homestead exemption. If you don't have a homestead exemption, your property could be value, assessed value, could be increased up to 10%. So make sure that, again, ‸ every property has its story. If you had a home and you sold it and you had the Save Our Homes cap on your piece of property and you sold it to someone else, their property value is now being reestablished at whatever it was that they paid less their closing cost, less their exemptions to get to their taxable value.
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‸ any type of moving in properties. So this is a list of the exemptions that are allowed by state law And you can see there's a lot of different exemptions and that's why
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reason why some of those 649 properties don't pay any property tax, in addition to the property value being very low.
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properties that were valued at over $10 million. And you can see the top taxpayer is that distribution center from
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Taking an average of all the other parcels, which includes the people that are paying nothing, the average tax bill
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city, as well as the residential development.
And again, Rebecca, the other tax, the average tax bill for
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the other parcels includes commercial and residential.
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homes,
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that's ‸ in our inventory.
All types of zoning for properties, that's correct. So
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safety, which the millage rate is being
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millage rate increase is being dedicated to public safety wage increases for recruitment and retention. Calculating out what our property assessed property value is, taxable,
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sorry, times the millage rate
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which was the millage rate last year,
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you would be collecting
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As I said, that is for the purpose of doing the public safety increases. But will that pay for all of it? Unfortunately, it will not pay for all of it. One thing that I would like to note on this slide, for the police department and dispatch, I had new men's up there and even for the fire department, that is still subject to negotiation with the unions and those numbers are not exact. That's numbers that we had at a point in time. So even the impact, the salary impact, is subject to change a little bit. It does need to be agreed upon by the members of each of the unions. And I failed under the PBA.
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So it ‸ would be applicable to any members of the PBA what these new rates would be.
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But these salary adjustments are going to cost about
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that we're funding from recurring revenue
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of that would be going to police and fire salaries. And then in addition, because we did have a nice healthy increase in property values, I'll show you in just a minute, we have large capital needs. And traditionally, we've been funding those capital needs through the use of fund balance, which is budgetary savings from year to year. Because of that nice increase in the revenue, we're able to start doing a shift and fund some of our capital needs with recurring revenue, which is a really important thing to do because you should not be borrowing to be able to buy what your needs are. In addition to, we've been having to minimize what those capital, what we fund for capital needs each fiscal year. So next, I'll show you the tentative proposed budget. For general fund, we show you all the funding sources presented by the most significant to the lowest that shows you the total budget is $50.2 million for general fund. If you'll note at the top of the slide there,
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39% of your revenue from general fund is funded from what we call non-revenue or other financing sources, which is your inner fund transfers. It shows that the general fund is still very heavily dependent on your utility fund for transfers there.
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balance to fund those capital needs. Your property taxes
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which does include that avalorum increase. And then other categories are charges for services, permits and fees,
and
then intergovernmental like grants and shared revenues that we get. And then interest, which we've been doing pretty well, earning interest this year, and then fines and forfeits to get your total
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just
to go back to, you said property taxes, ‸ what you meant was the category of taxes, which includes property taxes.
Yes, taxes includes the property taxes.
And then of the $50.2 million, in one way or another, how much comes from the water utility?
Still $20-something million.
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$20 million.
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in different
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sword. You know, it's a good thing that we have Jack and the fine work that he does over in water utilities. ‸ And yet you can see that it makes up a significant portion of your general fund revenue sources.
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of the $50 million is coming from water in one way or another.
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So, taking a look at, oh, ‸ excuse me, comparing our capital that we funded last year versus this year. And if you'll keep in mind, last year in fiscal year 22, we received $3.8 million
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which was ‸ the Federal Relief Act.
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which was things that were deferred. So last year in fiscal year 23, we only had to dip into fund balance, $888,000. This year, we're dipping into fund balance, $1.6 million.
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And then the recurring revenue that I just spoke to a few minutes ago, we're funding $929,000 of capital with the recurring revenue. And obviously, as we have talked in other budget workshops, other costs are increasing. So that's what's eating up the rest of your recurring revenue.
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has a really two, two, two big priorities there. And it's, it's a, it's obviously the initiative of the, of the special pay and retention initiative for public safety. And then this initiative, which is ‸ actually to, to obviously meet some of our needs. We're doing that through a spin down of fund balance meet some of our critical capital needs. And you'll see the, the listing there. They're all significant items. They're either, they're mainly police and fire items, mainly police on here. And the other part of this initiative is to actually, to, as
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Bowman said, Mrs. Bowman said, to actually start funding some of your capital ‸ needs out of recurring revenue. That's, That's a structurally sound budget to actually be able to fund capital, not out of generated or hope for savings each year, but to have it as a part of your, uh, recurring revenue base. And so you can see that we, we put an effort on doing that for the upcoming fiscal ‸ year. Um, police vehicles, police radios, uh, fire brush truck, fire radios, um, on the listing there.
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um, um, program. And so that would be in the upcoming fiscal year, as opposed to the $300,000. It would be
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again with other, uh, additional police vehicles, um, critical needs over in public works.
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fire radios, that we, as we've discussed ‸ previously, um, they need to become P25 compliant and the county is pushing for all agencies to be compliant by sometime next year. So that's making a nice dent in it, But at the cost that we have right now, we know right away that we're going to have to spend about $600,000 next year just for radio replacements.
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needs. So then we have other things that are funded by a one-time purchases that are funded in different ways and sometimes we have to dip into fund balance, um, still following the fund balance policy, that it's a one-time purchase.
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police radios, um, as a one-time purchase with fund balance, but then using recurring revenue for doing some other, um, one-time things. And so the distinction being, um, a capital purchase, you're buying it once and hopefully you don't have to buy it for a long, long time versus, um, like for example, you might have an operating expense like replacing all the carpet in City hall. Again, you're going to replace it one time and then won't replace it for many, many years as opposed to paying for salaries with your fund balance.
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and sewer fund budget. It's budgeted
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Obviously, the, um, primary category is the charges for services, which is for the water and sewer services. Um, again, they're taking some money from their unassigned, what we refer to as unassigned fund balance, but it's really their reserves.
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for their capital projects. Um, and then some miscellaneous, um, interest income. And then in the stormwater fund, uh, same thing, except for they're funded through a special assessment because we don't want to include that on the utility bill any longer. Uh, they'll get about $2.2 million
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uh, special assessment revenue.
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about a $4 million
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Um, general fund is showing, um, a big increase. Um, some of that's due to transfers and other things. Water and sewer, as we've discussed in the budget workshops, their chemical prices and a lot of their supplies have gone up. So theirs is about a $2.9 million
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And then some of those other numbers like the renewal and replacement shows a reduction. That's all dependent upon the water and sewer utility funds capital projects.
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recommended budget for citywide, uh, is ‸ $169,252,012. So at this time, the action requested from city council is to approve
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2023-078 establishing the rollback rate to approve the proposed millage rate of 6.9532 mills to set the first public hearing to be September 12, 2023 at 6 p.m.
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Hall and the city council chambers. As a reminder to city council, once the proposed millage rate is approved at this meeting, the millage rate may be reduced or increased at a subsequent trim hearing. However, if you increase the rate, then we have to go back and re-advertise all liver again and do separate hearings. So that would be a whole big process that would be, um, a little costly because the property appraiser would have to mail out new notices as well. Um, however, you could reduce it when we come back to you in September. requesting approval of the tentative millage rate.
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I stated, the first public hearing establishing the tentative millage rate and budget will be on September 12th at 6 p.m., followed by, uh, ‸ final adoption of the millage rate and budget on September 26th as well as at 6 p.m.
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the, um, counties and, and the school board. And so that's demonstrating that we're not holding our hearings on the same date as them in accordance with trim.
also flip back one back one also, uh, before the first public hearing, we've also talked about an executive session or a private session to
talk
about where we are on the, uh, on the union, um, proposals, uh, special pay plan.
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that pay plan plan proposal is, the, uh, the, uh, recruitment and retention pay plan and to also, uh, go over in some detail, um,
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proposal with regards to what he wants to do over in utilities. And so we'll schedule both that, uh, ‸ executive session and the, uh, and the budget workshop sometime in between tonight's meeting and the first, and the first, uh, public hearing on the budget.
And ‸ of note as well on the,
um,
any kind of salary changes related to the unions that would need to be adopted by that
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meeting in order for that to be effective October 1st, first paper in October, but essentially October 1st. Go back one more
slide. And again, Mr. Mayor, those are the actions that, uh, Mrs. Bowman is requesting of you tonight.
Yes, sir. Three prong step. Um, I do have some cards in the audience.
Uh,
Deputy Mayor, Sir.
If tonight agreed on by the council for the proposed military increase, uh,
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developed for the fire union so they can advertise those, uh, reflected, uh, pay raise increases.
I would defer to Mr.
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on
the union issues. They would need to ratify it with a ratification vote. Um, each union has different process for that, um, with the fire department, usually because of their multiple shifts,
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they have so many days of notice and then they, they do a vote per shift. So those don't always, aren't always consecutive. And
then in terms of an advertising to, to potential employees, I mean, I think we'd have to get somewhat creative, but, but again, in the proposed budget, um, if if the, if all of these actions pass tonight there,
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mean, we, it is, it is the intent of council to set a minimum salary range for, of this amount of this amount
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october one, which is what the, uh, any potential sort of solicitation advertisement.
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we would be more comfortable if we had a ratified contract with the unions and typically,
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don't need a ratified contractors to, to state to potential applicants what, what their intentions ‸ are, with regards to minimum salary, um,
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ranges and amounts there. And so again, all of that's going to come together, I'm sure. But, but again, if we want to, if we want to jump out there and be proactive there, again, in the proposed budget, there are these things. And again, it's somewhat a long winded advertisement, but you don't need,
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um, with other municipalities as well as the county. So any, any possible step we can take to jump out there and get ahead of the game. I'm all for it.
So to state it in another way, what we're requesting is the approval of that millage rate increase so that we can go back and work out all the salary information with the unions.
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Deputy Mayor. Yes,
sir.
Okay.
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Yeah. So just to reiterate, we will be raising taxes, uh, taxes will
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just based on the property values keeping the current millage rate. Right. That's what you have.
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Yes.
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So
‸ 16%
increase. Yes.
And about 5% of it is.
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Um, we know we're having recruiting issues. So that salary increase has to be included. That is under 1 million. The salary increase,
uh, for police and fire combined is about a million dollars, which
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Go
back.
So at the current
millage, we're able to support that increase.
There. At the current millage rate, um, yeah, you probably could, but you wouldn't be able to buy capital. And the capital, we have,
each
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left over at the end of the year that we know has varied widely from 4 million to 18 million over the last 10 years.
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reserves, or liquidity. And then we need to, you know, purchase those one time items. All of that comes, comes out of what's left over. This year is a couple million and closer to 3 million. But this represents, and
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get those capital projects out of the millage, the tax revenues, the reoccurring tax revenues. Even though we know we're projecting,
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up, we know we're going to have a, there's going to be an increase next year, just a new construction.
So,
but the shift that's taking place, what are we going to be doing with the money that's left over at the end of the year? That is going to be going to more capital projects?
Let me, let me, let me. You're asking a question. You want him to answer your question? Yes. Okay. Give him a chance to ask, answer each and
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question that you present to him.
So, go back a couple of slides. Yeah,
because ‸ perception is being misled.
Keep going.
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I
think, I think I want you to get to the 16%. And so, and so
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And so your property tax base has
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I don't
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I don't want that to be
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everybody.
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clarification and then.
And that's on your taxable value, which was why I discussed the taxable value.
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Um, go, go, go back one. And so the tax revenue, uh, the, the property tax revenue, um, based on that 16% increase in taxable value and the 0.5 mil increase goes up 25%. So that's that chart there.
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to the
taxable value.
taxable value and tax revenue. Keep going, Rebecca. Um, go to, to the,
some
budget information. And so what, what you, what you keep going. What you need the, um, the, um, you can go back to that. Go back. Yeah. Stay there. So what you need to,
um,
to, um, fund the capital, uh, honestly, the way we presented it to actually, uh, make a structural fix to, uh, the city's budget where, um, a significant amount of capital is coming from recurring revenues.
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to do the pay, the capital property tax, um, property insurance increases, health insurance increases. And so some of those things that we've not listed here tonight, um, some of those inflationary increases that are associated with, uh, any city budget there. And so we'll list those out at the workshop for you. But to do all of those things,
uh,
salary increases, uh, to fund capital, to fund the inflationary increases, like the health insurance, like the property insurance and whatever else Rebecca has, you need both current millage rate, uh, the 0.5. Um,
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And so if you, if you want to do the salary increases for police and fire and not do the capital, yes, you, you could actually reduce the military. Right. But again, if you go to the capital, um, Rebecca, most of the capital is associated with public safety, police and fire and public, uh, works. And so, um, again, I think it's very responsible. It is, uh, catching up on some of our capital needs.
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on, on some of our capital needs. And so, um, Thank you, sir.
Yes, sir.
Right there. So, so again, you can see, uh, Uh, exactly what we're doing here, uh, police vehicles,
uh,
fire trucks, uh, police and fire radios, um, the street paving, uh, capital, um, um, um, public works replacement vehicles, um, go to that next one time. Again, radios, um, radios on both side, both police and fire, uh, some, some long overdue capital improvements to the police, uh, station.
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priority of the council here. And so, um, again, the,
the,
this budget is to fund the special pay for police and fire and to appropriately fund, um, necessary, um, capital and capital that has been deferred for over a period of time.
Thank you.
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still on, ma'am.
Well,
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the year, those will just go to additional capital projects.
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Because, I mean, we have significant sums. Well,
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Okay.
Um,
there's, there's the 1.5 for, um, for this listing. And so, what was that, 1.5 plus the 800?
Mm-hmm.
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year, uh, after the books are reconciled. Uh,
‸ you
get to make a decision on what that is. And again, as we talked about reserves on Monday, as we talked about fund balance here, very, very simply, you have the stabilization reserve. That's about 11 point something million dollars. Mm-hmm. You know, $500,000 capital reserve. You have what we're calling the
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expenses. Mm-hmm.
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And
then, um, then you have other assigned reserves.
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out
of, of
the fund balances, if those come in over what she's estimated, then you are, you have an opportunity to assign those out. And then they ‸ just
approve the policy tonight
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where the city manager has to bring those back to you, ‸ not, uh,
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in the past not, uh, be, uh,
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responsible for this, this signing out as unassigned fund balance. And so, and so, the unassigned fund balance is an accounting term, but really, the truly unassigned fund balance
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So, but we've actually, uh, actually, uh, proposed expending some of that,
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the 1.5 plus the 8,000
dollars.
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Okay. Any other questions? Say none. Chair, I'd like to close this portion from council, bring it to the public. Steve Murphy, come forward. State your name.
Steve Murphy, [address], Cocoa, Florida. I'll be short and sweet. A 19.3% increase is higher than almost all of your citizens are going to receive. For them to pay those additional amounts of money is too much. The, the millage rate should stay as it currently is, not the rollback, but as it currently is, and that would, should provide you enough funding to deal with. That's the way the rest of us in the real world have to deal with. I do have one question.
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Fire and stormwater what? I don't understand your question.
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The
revenue, yes.
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That's all I have. Thank you.
Thank
you, Mr.
murphy
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And again, I know Mr. Mr. Mayor,
this
isn't gonna, you know, ‸ five minutes back. I just said it is not a 19% tax increase to individuals. But again, um, I think you know that that's, that's either a revenue increase or a taxable value increase, but not a tax increase to individuals.
Thank you very much, sir. Anyone else in the audience would like to, um, expound on this particular item?
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Okay. Seeing none. Chair like to close it to the public and return it to council. There's a three prong step we need to do. The first thing is do the rollback rate. Um, the rollback rate
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Is that correct?
Yeah.
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Is
that correct? Yes,
sir.
Thank you kindly, ma'am.
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Second.
Who seconded?
I did.
Okay.
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Okay. Now this is reference of, and also it is a resolution,
ma'am.
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Yes, sir.
Thank you kindly, ma'am. Proceeding on to the second portion, approve the proposal, uh, millage rate.
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a, a moving up a half of a percent because I am, or half a
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in favor of safety, safety, safety, safety. And people understand safety. And clearly we see both in fire and police and utilities and all 400 plus employees, team Coco. So it affects me directly too, as well, because I'm residential backslash commercial. So I get a double whammy. So don't feel like the Lone Ranger. And I'm voting, uh, also for myself. So I do support the 6.9532.
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We got a second on the floor by Deputy Mayor Hearn. Chair's gonna call the question.
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All in favor by saying aye. Aye. Any names? Put my
light on.
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get a second.
Okay, don't I have the opportunity to talk? After we've had a second, don't I?
Well.
I do.
I called the question before your light came on ma'am.
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You have the floor ma'am. Go ahead, please.
Okay. I just think that we have to, somebody at the budget workshop, one of the directors said something really wise, said, you know, we have to really focus on our operation, but it's important that we invest in our people. And I agree with that. That's, we really do need to invest in our people. That's why I want to make sure that we get, that we get these salary increases so we can maintain the integrity of our police and fire department.
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looking out for our citizens who happen to be some of the poorest in the county who have average salaries so much lower than even our own employee salaries.
And
I'm not convinced. And I know, ‸ you know, this is the first time, this structural fix, that makes sense. Is this the right year to do it? A structural fix? Now the last time we did this, we had, okay, we had a, we ended up with a, we had a windfall the year before we ended up with like 8 million plus ARPA money, but also after we did the tax increase, the half mil tax increase that following January, we came into three quarters of a million dollars, the first meeting from a capital fund that ended up going into the general fund that would really have, I mean, that was more than the half mil increase. I'm just saying that a structural fix, that makes sense to me. When does that take place? That's my question. The salaries definitely have to happen. But I really, I'm just not convinced that this is the right year for the millage increase.
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properties that are coming on, the development that's coming on, and we're trending up, the whole area is.
So,
you know, I'm looking out for my, I'm thinking about my constituents, which is what I was elected to do.
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Yeah.
Okay. Are you finished, ma'am?
Mm-hmm.
Okay. Thank you. I got you. Yes, sir.
I
see a councilman down.
I
just want to take a deep breath and ‸ just ‸ stay calm.
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call a question.
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She talked about the money that's left over at the end of the year. The reason why we have money left over ‸ the uni in the year is because
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The police departments down 20.
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shorthanded.
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went upstairs and we had, you know, get orientated on the board of adjustments.
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doing research. Go up there now, it's vacant. So every department is short. We don't even have an assistant city manager. So if we had all those people, we wouldn't have extra money at the end of the year. The reason why we don't have the extra people is because other cities are recruiting them, paying them more money. Palm Bay, police officers, $10,000 bonus. They sign on, they get a check. We need to start doing the same thing. We need our police officers. We need our public works. We need our firefighters. We need everybody
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to be $60 million.
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workshop, an accounting firm came in here and they had it in 2030. It's going to be $60 million.
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previous seen that report until the day they were here. I can do math. I can do models. And I guessed it. Actually, I didn't. I figured it out. But we need to go ahead and start these increases now because we're going to be behind a lot in the future. Thank you.
Thank you very much.
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in overtime right now is close. We keep going. This rate ‸ be half a
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there. So we're screwing our citizens in that capacity. So this is necessary. This is in the name of ‸ public safety. We got to get people here, and we got to keep people here. um And these guys are and women out here busting their butts, and and they're doing it to protect our citizens. So we need to do what's best. And i I think the proposals that's presented is the best thing. And I hope everyone can be brave enough to do the right thing at this moment.
Thank you. And
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of growth that we will rescind. We will do the rollback. Correct. Guaranteed. So thank you. Have that vision. Chair's gonna ‸ call the question. All the favor. Wait a minute. um Madam Clerk, do we have the
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question. All the favor by saying hi hi Are
you trying to say something?
Any nays? I'm
gonna ‸ say nay.
Okay. Let the record reflect. We have four yes. The nay is Councilwoman
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Mayor.
Sir. just point Point of clarification. um I didn't hear a motion to actually approve the resolution itself. So I think you need to make
it.
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to approve all right that's what i'm 23-078.
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date. Right.
Well, that was the third
problem
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That's right. So that was
just a motion to approve the
resolution. Right. I didn't say it. I thought I did, but I'll do it again. No
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worries. No worries. uh because
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the rollback rate. ‸ And I made the motion and there was a second by...
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just gonna ‸ call the question, because that's part of the resolution. Because that's what I thought when I said resolution to her. just gonna ‸ call the question. All in favor by saying aye.
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this The dissenting vote will be
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Now, we're getting ready to to do the third and final prom of this process, which
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city Council Hall. That's what we need to do when we have the first public hearing pertaining to the rollback rate and the proposed.
So the the attorney's saying all that's in the resolution. So if you approve the resolution, then you've approved all of it. All
right, thank you. Well, I'm
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‸ double check, triple check,
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I want to make sure that people are safe and protected all the way across
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the council to do the right thing to get us up and far to where we are. uh Also, the union reps, you've been doing a great job presenting the facts to the council. And I thank you, all of you, for your hard work that you do every day. Okay.
All right, sir. All right, let's give a round of applause To the men and ‸ to the spouses of our uh first responders and
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all 400 plus 14 strong and county we thank you this much with open arms. Now,
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restricted covenant with
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Thank you,
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give them a chance to vacate the premises. We got you, uh
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Yes, ma'am, I got you. I got you, ma'am. I got two cards. I have two cards on this particular item. I have
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and we're going to do ladies first, Mrs. Hathaway, so you'll go first. This is my meeting. I'll give them a chance to clear
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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yes,
ma'am.
uh So this is the requested action for consideration of a pre-development agreement and restrictive covenant for the
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earlier, on January
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2023, the City Council approved via Resolution 3-008. The developers request for authorization to proceed with multi-family housing development not to exceed 312 units and related facilities in accordance with ‸ Florida Statute 166 uh on the property to permit multi-family residential as an allowable land use on on the property. The developer seeks uh certain waivers from the City Code prior to processing um a site plan application for the project. uh this developer seeks a waiver of the tree mitigation contribution requirements of the City Code for the project and a waiver of the minimum size requirement of the City Code from 800 square feet per one bedroom to 660 square feet for the one bedroom unit for a maximum of 80 units. In consideration of these waivers, the developer has uh several conditions that they have to follow. They have to ‸ convey the property to the City of its entirety of a tax parcel
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and a portion of
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agree to maintain the project as an affordable housing project for a period of 30 years,
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of the occupied units will be affordable housing as provided and defined in Florida law. The developer will be required to submit copies of the tenant income verification and applicable leases of the project to the City yearly to ensure compliance. They must reserve a minimum of three, one bedroom or two bedroom apartment units for the City law enforcement officers
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first responders to be rented at a 25 discounted rate. In addition, the developer shall provide a lease preference for other tenant applicants to City law enforcement officers and firefighters along with paramedics, EMS,
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teaching
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far as the
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the requirement will be to plant 350 replacement trees and they will have a waiver for the remainder of the trees on the property.
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During this uh process, some of the other conditions include uh the Planning and Zoning Board must approve the site plan within 18 months of the effective date of this agreement and that the developer must obtain building permits and commence vertical construction within two years of the effective date of this agreement. uh City staff will be monitoring the project uh for the next 30 years to uh ensure the compliance uh for this project and part
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years following the certificate of occupancy. uh the applicant's attorney is present and can uh answer any questions and i can answer any questions as part of this agreement oh the applicants here too
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ago yes yes ma'am you you're you're the greatest you're spot on
ma'am okay Esquire Hathaway ma'am
good evening again
good evening again
um
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Rizanka at 1290 us highway 1 in Rockledge at this time I represent Allegra at Coco LLC the proposed developer of the project we want to thank city staff for their assistance and their recommendation of approval at the risk of being redundant um to your agenda packet and staff's comments I'd like to emphasize the concessions from the developer to the city including conveying over 11 acres to the city which I think have already been referenced this evening that could help alleviate some of your issues on 524 ‸ be used for some of the water issues we will also be maintaining the project as affordable housing for 30 years and we'll have reserved units for law enforcement and first responders um we are here and happy to answer any questions if you have any
I support this project thank
you sir
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questions.
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then Councilwoman
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Yes,
i i first, I would just like to say thank you for
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secondly, those concessions that you have outlined in the project, uh as you heard tonight, it's addressing many of the concerns that we spoke with citizens on tonight. uh Affordable housing, um with our firefighters and police officers, actually giving them a place that they can afford to live and work in
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city. So I thank you for being considerate in those areas and hopefully developers that our future developers that plan to come to the city for projects will consider those same things. uh So thank you. it Looks like it's going to be a great project. I'm looking forward to shovels in the ground. If we agree on it tonight. It's
in my district.
Yes, sir. That's right. Is that it, sir? Yes, sir. Thank you. uh Councilwoman
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ma'am.
Yeah, it's just... um what Why reduce the size of the apartments? Is that a design? Did it come down to... Because all your other models are at that larger size?
Yeah.
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uh And I think uh some people have talked about it. When you reduce the size of the unit a little bit, it allows for some reduced rents. Units have gotten too large in the industry and they become unaffordable. So it just helps us provide a more affordable unit just by reducing that size slightly. And that's the reason for it. We're considering this affordable workforce housing. So you don't need as large of a unit for that.
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or I think what we talked about earlier is affordable according to the formula? Yeah,
we probably have more than
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I mean, we uh with the workforce housing and the economic design that we have, uh
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Okay.
So...
Okay. And do you know what the property value is on ‸ 11 acres?
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per acre.
That's the
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Okay, thanks. Yeah.
Okay, that's my only question. And, well, one other question. So this is approximately, this represents increases in
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Stockton, i think I think we've given you some of that information. It's been a while. so I mean, it's
quite a bit you know, hopefully you'll you'll build it big and grand and affordable, but we
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know the tax value until the property appraiser puts it on the tax roll. I mean, i ‸ it's a lot.
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approval.
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i support this project you all know i i love it do you have that madam clerk ma'am motion by councilman dial and a second by councilman goins all right we love you
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Proceeding on to the final item for tonight.
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sir. i I just wanted to really highlight
um this. uh
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one is it potentially could be in my district. The first thing and also I think this could be positive for the entire
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community. So uh if the city manager would like to expound on this. and
If you want me to. I mean, I think i think this is this is one of those projects where you as a public servant there, you you hope to get. it And so this
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because she was the one who i first had the conversations with the uh Bezos uh foundation of
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of obviously of of uh the Amazon founder and owner, and they uh established
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in um neighborhoods of uh and communities of need. We know we have a need uh that's been verified by uh Dr. dokes that's been verified by um by Principal Cole. And so we have a need. um And so they've agreed to enter into this non-binding memorandum of understanding to ‸ actually continue the process of exploring whether or not uh it's a fit, whether or not they want to put dollars in the community to build a Montessori uh school. In addition to to the Bezos Foundation, we have some local partners that have stepped up and said, hey, we we think that we can partner ‸ on in a facility to provide health care services. And as you know, part of the plan for the um for the Diamond Square Redevelopment Agency includes education and health care services. And so
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And we have the Space Coast Health Foundation that are at the table willing to be partners with us. And I thought it appropriate because it's going into the Diamond Square community that they that the agency be partners. Again, this is a non-binding commitment. No one's committing to uh any sort of funds, any sort of uh finances. Just simply saying we're going to continue those discussions to ‸ see uh how it all shakes out.
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not only do those things, but to to show the state that we have a community with partners that are serious about health care services and and um and academic services to where we can get that state appropriation. We have on the House side, we have Representative Soroy. And on the Senate side, we have uh Senator Mayfield, both interested in this project there. And so we think that we show people that we're serious about the partnerships and about bringing this to fruition um
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But again, this doesn't require anybody to commit to any funding, doesn't even say how we're actually going to operate or who will operate, who will put dollars up front,
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and would actually come back under a separate uh uh legally binding agreement.
is that a motion?
Yes, sir. most to approve.
Second. get emotional on the floor by Councilman
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the planning and zoning side. As you know she she did all of the presentations, and so she stepped in without
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uh Mrs. Morgan has done the same thing in regards to her role on the transportation side. And so I just
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to publicly. thank them. um let me, let me continue the staff. Kudos there. uh Robert, um Beach, is, uh doing big things around the state and nationally. ‸ now the second vice president of the Florida Local Government Information Systems
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membership that includes 880 IT leaders from 285 local government agencies in Florida. um and so he's going to step in to be the vice president, and that's a four-year commitment on that team. And so very proud of him for that. ‸ In addition to, to that, I'm hoping it's not an indication that he has a resume out there. He's also on the, uh on the multi-state information sharing and analysis center executive committee. And so, Rob, is that, is that some sort of organization, agency of the federal government?
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of Homeland Security. um it's the national source for state, local, and tribal, uh territorial governments for cyber security guidance, information sharing, tools, analysis, that sort of thing.
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And so, um
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for, uh both of those assignments. So just just happy to have you know such good staff and staff that is actually uh will lend their expertise to the others there. uh
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now? Okay. Thank you.
uh Yes, I just wanted to remind everyone that we have our school supply drive going on right now. We are collecting supplies at City Hall, in the Clerk's Office, at all of our fire stations, and the police department. um And so anyone can drop off school supplies. We will also be doing a collection event at the
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um community Engagement Unit will be out there with us uh collecting supplies. And then we will distribute the supplies that were collected um
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from 5 to 7 p.m um so those will be available on a
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basis for uh coco our
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students in need.
very much. Great job. It's that time of year again that kids will be going back to school. So we have to watch those um zones, speed zones, be conscious of the flashing amber light, right? ‸ just
‸ short two weeks, yes, sir. Two
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Thank
you, Mr. Mayor. so yes, sir. Just two quick things. First,
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I, and of course the unions. But uh with what little public's left here,
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He really did a lot behind the scenes to support us and going back and forth to kind of get us where we're at. So he was too humble probably to ever want to say get thanks, but we appreciate
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trying to
cut my mic off now is what he's trying to do. ‸ The important thing, too, is I wanted to let everybody know that we will be doing the swearing in ceremony of our assistant chief on Friday,
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o'clock, right here in the council chambers, and
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that's doing wonderful things in the department already. So I'm looking forward to swearing both of them in on Friday. So
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Mr. Mayor, I know it's late, but um you know as you guys talked about the homeless problem, um pretty soon, like the day after tomorrow or or something somewhere close to that date, uh
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has been working with a number of organizations to create a service that is uh that's going to be attached to their calls. And so I wanted the chief to to go over that uh because I think that that's going to be yeah value added to the community.
So we've been working with this organization that has, it's called the
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And so basically, so the next step we're doing, that so we they've done some presentations with us. uh The next step is they're going to do some ride-alongs with the officers so the officers can
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with them and what they can do as far as uh serving our community. And then we're going to do a training, and at that point, uh we'll have that MOU and we'll get it rock and roll. So it's similar to what um the
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is doing. um So we have an individual in crisis and needs and things of that nature. We can call them, especially like in a mental health type issue, we can call them out to come out. instead So instead of the police getting involved, we can have them involved. So they'll do ‸ from the start to the finish to make sure that person has all the needs that they need for themselves to be a more productive citizen. In addition to that, they also offer services to the family as well. Because, you know, anytime you have somebody suffering from some type of mental illness, um you take them away, the family still have issues. And so it's it's a force force multiplier for us so ‸ we won't continue to get those repeat calls at those particular locations. So we've got a lot of things going on in our community that's really helping not only just our homeless but other families in our in our community. Wonderful.
Wonderful. Because I know we have our
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and we're being proactive here. uh ‸ In reference of having a social worker there and various organizations there right along with the police department.
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officers go to that no one has actually violated the law, but they still need the police. So it's not a police function. It's a social services or someone that can actually office offer services. So we should see a decline, which they've seen the same success in Melbourne, of those repeat calls where it's not necessarily a police problem. Thank you, sir. So we're looking forward to working with MRT. So
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the plan.
Okay. It's
been delayed a couple, so that's why the city manager said
that.
you're good
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to recognize Kristen and all the work that she put into uh helping staff with all the
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work with as I as i uh you know i came into this job. I'm an old budget guy, and so she's trying to teach me.
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of the Son, ‸ the Holy Ghost. ‸ She's
been been a joy to work with.
Super fantastic. All right, Deputy Mayor has informed me that we're doing uh even number districts, so we're going to start with District
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then
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Okay. uh
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Positive things, thank God. um Something I didn't get to do last meeting, I wanted to give a big shout out to, I don't know who, what crew it was in Public Works. I made a request. There was
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literally almost like at a 90 degree angle. It was from a tree root. And I made a request and I came,
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had to be two days later, I came back and this sidewalk was replaced. The tree was wasn't harmed. and It was just such an excellent job. I wanted to make sure I gave a shout out to Public Works. uh because I don't know which crew was responsible for ‸ that. um
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still call it my baby, Anderson Park. um Public Works went out there, they did some ‸ clean up, uh cleaning some of the, uh uh I don't
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when you rock by there now, you can see the park so clearly, it just looks nice. And I know we still have a lot more work and some plans for that
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but I wanted to make sure I give ‸ a shout out to uh Public Works for that. um oh
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um Also, there was just a couple things I wanted to ask for an update on. um Is it possible that, is there an update on the Fisk resurface resurfacing um project? is Is on the timeline for that?
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one was,
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it. Thank you very much up from District number two our proceeding forward
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just I'll have to say ditto on the sidewalk crew that's a crew right certain crew like anytime you...
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anytime ‸ have an issue, it seems resolved quickly and also despite the fact that I voted against the millage increase I wanted to say that I thought the the budget presentation was pretty darn good
‸ understandable and
I don't know if it's just that this is my fifth year but I just felt like, you know, it's a good job presenting it.
‸ that's
it. Thank you very much.
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staff and Coco's remarkable they do a great job I think everybody and all the stuff and it's late and I'm done
thank you very much sir
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I said thank you very much sir appreciate
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pushing up ‸ on the level. District Number
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Why? Because it's number
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in my heart.
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apologize for this presentation kind of everybody ready to go home so I'm sorry in advance I didn't put him in order so I'm sorry. um The supply zone, just for council as well, if y'all want to volunteer Saturday from 9 to 1 I know I'll be there
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pretty fun. You meet a lot of different people, and it's probably gonna ‸ end up being over 2,000 people
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picking up bags to kind of show you the need that we have in our community so so July 29th 9 o'clock to 1 o'clock at the
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daughter is stepping up, and ‸ she does hair, and she's doing free hair for kids for back to school. so But only kids, no adults. The adults have to pay. But she's doing all kids because, she again, she understands the need and in the community of people who may need some help with kids. Because once you pay for clothes and all these different things, sometimes the hair get kind of lost. So this is her cash out to do either cash or supplies as well. So if anybody wants to donate to the cause, she already had the first two weeks of August already booked already and so she's gonna ‸ do the whole month of August free for any child who needs their head done because
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last Saturday what two Saturdays two weeks ago
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had a car wash for the young men nice of Pythagoras great turnout this was the copper copper didn't want to look at us I guess. But yeah, it was a great event. Thank you to everyone who was involved,
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especially I think officer Johnson am I correct I'm ‸ saying that title
yeah okay
see officer Sierra Johnson great event for all everyone who was involved in organizing
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especially for the kids. My son loves his book, so. No, that's
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sure yeah
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had some issues with the right of ways may one phone call, and that same day, probably within two hours, they were there cutting the grass on that area. So thank you all for for jumping on it. The next thing was for police Aurora is still having some issues at the
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apartments I know a lot of people have came here before definitely
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the
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have no parking they don't have enough parking in the apartment complex I think we all know that. So now they are parking in the road because there's no
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lining up on the roadway every single night again the
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complex just doesn't have enough parking I don't know the solution to that but they are blocking the roadway pretty much every single night so I just want to bring that up so good
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sir appreciate everybody good night
okay thank you very much to all of our council members for doing an outstanding job maintaining your district I'm too short ‸ sweet I know because
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miss Monica Godspeed going
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has been brought to my attention
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waste. And we must educate the people to, in reference of phone calls to make, etc etc etc um they we can get and I know we work diligently when they call our employees here our personnel here and they do relay the message so
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waste management next week and so if you see me in your neighborhood I will be there so offer me a bottle of water whatever the case may be
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once again
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hear over the hell wildcats
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they had the children movement of Florida under the
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leadership of the CEO Madeline
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And we have also the 28th of July, sir, ‸ the PALS organization. At what time
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Have your face in the place with the human race. Go in peace. All in favor by saying aye. Aye. And a nays. Thank you staff.