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Deputy Mayor Hearn?
Present.
Councilmember Dial? Here. Councilmember Goins?
Here.
Councilmember Koss? Here. City Attorney Garganese? Here. And City Manager Whitten?
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you.
Thank
you very much. Preceding forward to item number 2-1, regular meeting of July the 26th, 2022, what are the wishes of Council?
A motion to approve with one or is it
two amendments since I understand we don't have the presentation.
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Okay. And then I would also like to take off item 7-4, which is on the Travis Park.
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this combined two
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intend to be combined so he'll come back at some other time.
Okay. All right. So no presentations and I remember
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Okay. Thank you very much. Is that a motion?
That's a motion.
We're looking for a second. Second. Second by Councilman Dow. Chair's going to call the question. All in favor by saying aye.
Aye.
And a nays. Ayes have it
unanimously.
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Proceeding on to 2-2.
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of regular meeting May 10, 2022.
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Council? Motion to approve. ‸ A motion on the floor by ‸ Deputy Mayor Hearn. Second.
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All in favor by saying aye.
Aye.
Aye. Nays. Ayes have it unanimously.
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Delegations.
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Thank
you. Okay.
Please be mindful. Come forward and state your name for us, please. You have three minutes to expound on your particular item and whatever organization that you're representing. First will be the Honorable Dr. John Nyland. And after Dr. John Nyland will be George L. Brown, Jr.
Good evening. My name is John Nyland. I live at [address]. And I work for a company called Solutions Environmental and Energy. You know, I've been... Over my lifetime, I've been to hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of council meetings.
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more about their youth and they do more for their youth than here in Cocoa. And I want to congratulate the mayor and his entire staff for everything they do. I wanted to talk about this evening fluoride, obviously, but about the State College borough up in Pennsylvania. Last week, the Water Council, they have their own water systems.
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the water system. Most of them are from the Pennsylvania College right there. And most of them, five out of the seven on the council have PhDs. So they just voted unanimously, six to nothing, to remove fluoride from the water system. And I said in one sentence, there were seven on the board and it was a unanimous decision with six. Well, one of the members on the board resigned from that board seconds before the vote. And then he admitted to the council that he had not read any of the studies on fluoride, that it was just a personal decision. But one of the conclusions they came to there was that there was no obvious advantage of ‸ water fluoridation compared to topical prevention for the prevention of dental caries. They also said that pregnant women and babies should not drink fluoridated water, potential IQ loss, and dental fluorosis.
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And they talked about the ethical implications.
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is to provide the region with an excellent supply of potable water
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the lowest possible cost. And to provide top quality service to our customers. In other words, the mission of our water authority is to provide safe water, not to medicate the public. But I put a copy of this presentation in everybody's mailbox. You'll have it tomorrow morning if you get a second. Just read through it. Thank you very much.
Thank you.
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Good evening, Council. My name is George L. Brown, Jr.
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Maybe I'll have a few more. I love the city. But I don't like this ordinance that you came up with.
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Now, I've been told that I was on the board too long, 39 years. Never missed me one meeting. Not one. I've been excused when I went to Boston Mass for my hometown. But I never missed a meeting because it's important to me. I don't get much money out of this. That's for sure. So I'm not in for the money.
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too old, and been on the board too long. And they're going to put new people on to give them a chance. Well, we give them a chance. And you know what happens? They come in for three meetings maybe at the most, and then they're gone. The other night, we had a meeting here at the Code Enforcement Board. Our chairman could not chair the meeting because he was not reelected when the council did not meet last month or June, whatever it was. And his paperwork was in.
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to run the meeting. The other folks that were on the board, they didn't know how to run the meeting.
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We've got three code enforcement officers. We've got a code enforcement manager. We've got ‸ administration people. But without our board, you cannot go and ‸ have the code ‸ examined and either pass or not pass. So I don't know why they did this here. But I think it's an awful mess. And you folks all voted it in. So now we're stuck with it. Unless we do away with it. But I'm not very happy with it. I put a lot of time in. Our code, excuse me, our chairman is in jeopardy. Because he was not reappointed at the last meeting because they had no meeting.
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And I hope you reconsider this here. This is a terrible, terrible thing to do to the city. And I show up for all the meetings. And
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do they even come? Thank you.
Thank you. ‸ That
will be Mrs. Gabor. Chair of the board.
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Good evening.
I have two items. At the July 12th Council meeting, the 28th EFSC PJ Wilson and Henry Scott Minority Youth Golf Camp was recognized.
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Having such a wonderful camp gives me hope that Coco will one day enjoy a community-friendly, ecologically beneficial nine-hole golf course within our city limits. Next, regarding the change in public records policy, if the majority of public documents could be searched for and found online through the city website, there would be little staff ‸ time required responding to public records requests. This would save time and money for everyone. That's all I have.
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You speak on behalf of her? Yes.
You
can hear? Yes.
Kristen
Lordy, District 3.
Okay.
The following statement is being read on my behalf by
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July 24th. Records policy changes are a hot topic that citizens are interested in as part of transparent government and managing our tax dollars. I oppose the proposed resolution
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While red line changes of the city policy were not provided, I compiled and provided them to you so you can see them more easily. The policy change has proposed to
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including charging for time spent to determine if a document exists, charging for anything more than 15 minutes in a 30-day period, making the request cumulative, and
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to name a few of the proposed objectionable changes. The current 2013 city records policy is already punitive and charging residents for over 15 minutes of staff time as considered extensive. The city should be working to make access to public records easier for citizens to access and not more restrictive. Making records available to citizens
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part of the city duties, and citizens should not be required to pay staff time for nominal time spent to fulfill the city's
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The Florida
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manual states that excessive unwarranted special service charges deter individuals seeking public records from gaining access to the records to which they are entitled. I strongly oppose the proposed policy resolution and call on council members to vote no to avoid sending the message to residents
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in knowing about the affairs of our city. Please
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voting no on the records policy resolution.
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access to public
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Thank you. ‸ I know
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‸ Okay, next will be Mrs. Jackie Lewis.
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beautiful over there. Good evening,
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My name is Jackie Lewis and I'm an independent contractor. I teach Zumba and Aqua Zumba, Zumba kids and Zumba kids junior to the community. I think it's a wonderful service. It helps with the health of all the citizens and I know it's my job, but I don't treat it as a job. I am trying to appeal to the city because I teach Aqua Zumba at the Jolie Smith Community Center. Some of my students are here to support and we don't want the pool to close. We feel that it is a community pool and that it should be utilized for all the community to stay healthy, especially during COVID. So the problem is that the county is stating that they don't have enough lifeguards. So I'm appealing to the city to possibly help finance the ‸ use of lifeguards so that the community can use it. I have students coming from
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And so I want them to see everything that we have to offer as well as being healthy. So that's all I wanted to say is please think about being able to finance or somehow help with the use of lifeguards at the Jolie
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Thank you.
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The funding is good. Just the lifeguards. My thing is we can find individuals that ‸ are energetic, full of energy and astute and willing to spend a
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So they can be
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But we do support your concerns. And
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Okay. Next. And we thank you. Mrs. Donna Kattner.
I'll pass tonight. Thanks.
Yes, ma'am.
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We're done. Okay.
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delegation. Moving on to the consent agenda item.
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And I'll second it. Okay. For approved consent agenda item. All in favor of saying aye. Aye. Any nays?
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Now, here we are. Moving on to public hearing.
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So I ask that you be patient, be understanding, and we will hear from everyone.
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open to the public but we'll do it first we'd like to hear from mr. garganese also we'll read the ordinance into the record book but all local governments must adopt a private property rights element into their comprehensive plan required by the florida state legislatures past july 1st 2021. esquire garganese
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thank you mayor ordinance number 05-2022 an ordinance of the city council of the
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amending the text of the city's comprehensive plan to include a property rights element as required by law providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinance
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ordinances and resolutions including ordinance number 15-2021 incorporation into the comprehensive plan severability and effective date and legal status of the plan amendment mayor as you indicated the florida legislature passed a new law back in 2021 requiring cities to cities and counties to incorporate a property rights element in its comprehensive plan this ordinance may look familiar because back in 2021 the council did adopt ordinance 15-2021 however the city recently learned that there was no record of the ordinance being transmitted to the department of economic opportunity after the transmittal hearing that the council had back in 2021 so as a result we're proposing that the council
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uh that property rights element and approve ordinance number 05-2022 ‸ be
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My apologies,
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Council and open it to the public. You have three minutes to come forward and state your concerns on this particular comprehensive plan. text amendment going once going twice chair like to close it to the public and return it to council what are the wishes of council
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the future land use element authorizing the city to approve by development agreement residential densities, excuse me, densities up to 125 dwelling units per acre related to vertical mixed use projects within a very limited geographical area of approximately 4.5 acres. More or less designated mixed use of future
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district regulating plan under certain terms and conditions deemed necessary and acceptable to the city council by developing an agreement. Now on page 15 of 15 which is very important to us, it talks about future development and properties proposed in this amendment would need to meet the climate resilient development practices or stormwater future land use amendment will not negatively affect
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diminish the services level of applicable public facilities and this will enhance and modernize infrastructure.
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into this particular ordinance, sir?
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Brevard County, Florida adopting a large scale comprehensive plan, text amendment adopting a policy in the future land use element authorizing the city council to approve by development agreement residential densities of up to 125 dwelling units per acre related to vertical mixed use projects within a very limited geographical area which is generally located along
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and more specifically described herein by parcel information and map that consists of effective real property of approximately 4.5 acres more or less and is designated mixed-use land use on the future land use map and designated Cocoa village sub-district with a commercial mixed-use large uh cl building type on the Cocoa waterfront overlay district regulating plan requiring a development agreement by the city council to approve such projects on such real property under certain terms and conditions deemed necessary and acceptable to the City Council, providing factors to be considered by the Council when considering whether to approve such projects by development agreement, providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions, incorporation into the comprehensive ‸ plan severability and an effective date and legal status of the plan amendment. As you noted, Mayor, this is a transmittal hearing uh proposing to amend the text in the City's
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element of its comprehensive plan, I believe there's a PowerPoint presentation, so um I would suggest I'll be happy to answer any questions uh once the the presentation has concluded.
‸ thank you
Thank you, Mayor and Council members. um Yes, I do have a a quick PowerPoint presentation to try to um explain this in the easiest way possible. um in addition to what was just said, we are looking at proposing um the particular ordinance on three properties um within the city and they make up um like for instance 430 Brevard is actually three parcels. We're considering it one
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parcel for the um uh discussion today. So we're looking at 430 Brevard, 505 Brevard and 630 Brevard. What we what we did with this project was really kind of a reduction of the factors that were required to look at within the comprehensive plan
to kind of enter into such a project. We've had a lot of interest in the city at developing at a higher density for these mixed use projects. We've been told that to make such a project work, the higher density is needed for these projects. So this first map obviously shows you where those properties are at. It also shows
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what the maximum residential units could be on each of the properties. Another thing that was kind of considered too in the reduction of choosing the particular parcels for this amendment was the size. Obviously
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meaning that the maximum residential units on that property would be 243. Likewise, 505 Brevard is 1.33 acres,
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‸ And then lastly, 630 Brevard, which will ultimately end up as the hotel, but if we were considering it to be residential, we're looking at
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As you went through the staff report, we referred to kind of a trifecta of ‸ the future land use, the zoning code, and the waterfront overlay district. All three of these plans have the intent to encourage mixed-use development within this area. And really what this proposal does is really bring those three plans together. So today, to show you, with the current future land use, the current zoning code, and the current waterfront overlay district, which would be supported by a development agreement, a developer could get up to
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And so when you're looking at these parcels that are only up to two acres, you're looking at only 60 units, say, on a two-acre parcel. Thus, the reason for the amendment, we're proposing in that exact same area, but limiting it to these three sites, that you are allowed to go up to that
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Again, based on the same three kind of trifecta of bringing those plans together and still requiring a development agreement that will look into the specifics of each of the developments on these lots, allowing us to make sure that it is a quality development, that it meets the scale, that it meets the requirements of the historic Cocoa Village. So again, kind of what I had mentioned was we went through the project and really did kind of a reduction of the sites in the village. And to do that, we did that through the requirements of the comprehensive plan, policies, and objectives. We needed to look at the city's budget. Obviously, these can benefit the city's budget, ‸ in the sense of the tax revenue that will be brought in. We needed to look, so both item number B and E before you on the screen,
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we have the adequate facilities to provide services to such a development? And this went through a lot of scrutiny with all the departments within the city, much thanks to utilities, public works, fire, police. Everyone took a look at this. The Brevard School District took a look at this too to make sure we had adequate schools for the children that would be housed in these developments. And as I noted in that staff report, that all of those public facilities can meet these densities. Then item C, looking at the environment, the natural and the historic resources. This was a big piece for us, obviously, being in the village. We started narrowing it down by looking at properties that were developed after the 1950s.
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them were developed after the 1950s. One was in the 1970s. And the other property is vacant. And obviously, that goes to your natural and historic resources too, right? The sites are either vacant or completely built out at their current stage.
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We'll also look to see how this meets the state comprehensive plan, the East Central Florida comprehensive plan. And again, in the staff report, I went through the items in which those meet, similar to our comprehensive plan, encouraging housing, a diversity of uses and those type of things. So those were all a nice check in the box.
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So this was another one that helped us reduce the areas a little bit further. We had looked at other blocks in the village that met the requirement of not having buildings that were historic, but they were either across the street or next to single-family homes. And we did not want to, we wanted to have complementary uses in and around the sites that we looked at. So ‸ we eliminated a few more parcels based on the compatibility with the surrounding neighborhoods so that we were able to accomplish that goal in going through this project. Obviously G, adequate housing. This helps us add housing stock to the city.
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This kind of helps us with our portfolio of housing and expanding that and offering more opportunities to different residents within the city.
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ways that we are consistent with the comprehensive plan and all the items that I have just mentioned. So that brings me to ‸ the recommended motion. The land planning agency, planning and zoning, did take a thorough look at this and they have recommended approval of the proposed comprehensive plan text amendment,
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to approve by development agreement, that third step in kind of the trifecta of plans, densities of up to 125 dwelling units per acre related to
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I'd be happy to also answer ‸ any questions.
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Yes, ‸ they did have discussion about this. They felt that encouraging the mix of use, so this is in the ‸ mixed use future land use, and they felt that encouraging that mix of uses in this ‸ area ‸ was obviously advantageous to the village. There was a lot of discussion about the particular surrounding businesses and how with developments like this, we could see improvements to the existing businesses surrounding them. They also looked at diversifying the housing options and felt that that was very nice. They were very glad to see that we were going to execute this through a development agreement because
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of the building does mix in with the existing historic village. And so they were appreciative that obviously through the next couple steps of applications that they would have ‸ a chance to look at that in much more detail. So they were appreciative of that.
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Yeah, a couple questions to start. Angela, what is, based on the current dwelling units, what would be the height? Based on the current density,
which is 30
units per acre, right?
Mm-hmm.
Yes. So that would give us what height approximately,
maximum height?
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the height would, it's hard to guess,
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So I would say at the 30 DUs, it could be anywhere between three and five stories.
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a mixed-use category, both the comprehensive plan and the various waterfront development master plans all encourage that mix of use.
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There is a floor area ratio limit to the amount of commercial office uses you can have in there. And the other thing that becomes dependent,
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is the parking. So there are kind of three factors there. You have the parking, you have the residential units that would go hand-in-hand. But then you also have the mix of use and depending on how much commercial they are adding to that.
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maximum height there would be seven or eight stories? Yes.
Right now, I believe that at the 125 dwelling units per acre with the supporting parking and the mix of use with the commercial, they are looking at seven stories for 430 Brevard.
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So I would, let me look at the size really quick.
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a real swag, right? Between four and eight stories, I'm unsure. They're so dependent on size of units and things like that and the amount of amenities they want to provide.
Okay. And so I know when we originally talked about this, ‸ you were
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kind of the revelation that there really were no height restrictions in this area. But then at the end of our conversation, we talked about the comp plan, which addresses density, which does affect height. And height, of course, affects scale. And scale, of course, affects character. So, and this is probably the last conversation we will ever have about this. Because once this comp plan is changed and we pass this, we will be going up in scale. And there will be no going back. So, I am going, I do ‸ want to explain ‸ my feelings about this.
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for the historic village. And who, in fact, like myself, moved here because they were attracted to the quaintness of a historic village.
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Because we really need to generate revenues. We have to sustain ourselves and to enhance cocoa overall.
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However, their infrastructure needs will be met by everyone that lives in District 1, 2, 3, and 4. All taxpayers. That's correct?
They will be, and ‸ that's actually a great point too. So, the great thing about these three projects is by them moving forward, they actually will improve the utilities in their area. Obviously, they have to improve them to hook up to them, right? So, they'll be making improvements. And then at the same time, another item that I forgot to mention under the environmental factors is they also add to the stormwater cleanup. And so, they will actually enhance the village by providing additional cleanup to the stormwater that comes up.
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to this better than I can. Okay. But it will go through almost a double ‸ filtration process because they'll need to come up
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which are obviously better than what was
built.
Well, we have
this Church Street baffle box, which I would imagine is really, makes these projects viable for that anyway.
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what I'd really like, the opportunity, and I'd like my council members to listen and not make comments, to respect me, to respect my constituents, because this is a very important point, a turning point, in ‸ the historic Cocoa Village history. What was he talking
about?
Well,
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So I just want to say that, again, height, scale, impact, they impact the character of the village. And for 20 years, we have marketed ourselves as a historic village. We have the historic Cocoa Village, Main Street. We had a conversation at the beginning, actually, probably about two years ago, now, in regard to historic villages and height restrictions. And I was given a list by the then Community Development Director of cities in Florida that were historic and that had tall buildings, I was told. I researched that list.
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They all had height restrictions.
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those down, which you really can't do. Once you bring up the height restrictions, you're not bringing them down. And I just say all of this because we are increasing. by increasing height, we will increase the property values of those lots. But it also has the effect of decreasing those properties behind them that no longer have
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that no longer have breeze, the
properties,
and where the character of the entire village has been changed. ‸ So, I just want us to be cognizant of that fact. I am never again going to bring up height in the village. I promise you. That's right. Because this is it. And if we're there, and it seems that we have a lot of people in the village, of course, we already have high rises in the village. And it may be that this whole struggle over height was finished a long time ago. But I still have constituents with real concerns about this and a real desire to have that quaint community, that walkable village, that sense of community that you get in a smaller place. I've lived amongst high rises and they are, I have, and I am, you know, people try to position me as though I were anti-development. That is not the case at all. I am pro-smart growth, I am pro-wise development, and I am pro-character development for a particular community. So, and having said all that, let me say this. If we go to
that height,
I'm still going to come down to the village. It doesn't mean that it won't be nice. It will be a great waterfront.
I
think historic Cocoa Village Main Street may need to change the historic part of that just to keep their charter. But we are making, we are making a big change here today. So, with that, I will say no more about height. Oh, one more thing.
The
reason this is so important to me is because I lived in a community, and this was in Virginia, that maintained, really protected the integrity of the character of their community, and it paid off. It paid off to the degree that when I sold my house there, I was able to move here and buy a home on Indian River Drive. And that's how ‸ we were able to afford a home on Indian River Drive because that community had a strong Main Street, had a strong sense of character, and guarded its planning, Just like we see
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you know, those properties go for a lot, not because there's a park next door, but because they know there will be a park next door, according to the plan. Since I have been here, there has not been a proposal come forward that we have not approved. So, in terms of, you know, changes to our planning and zoning. So, that's all I'll say. Thank you.
Any questions?
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Yes. I understand we've already gave a height for the hotel. Is that correct?
Yes. The hotel has been approved through the site plan and building permit process.
Yeah. The height is eight stories. Eight
floors
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So, it's already in there for eight stories and it was mentioned in this. Yes. And with Whitley Bay being 11 stories, Pandora's box has been open.
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or city manager.
Mr. Mayor,
I
think I need to clarify something.
It
may not have come out ‸ in the presentation or in the agenda item, but this ordinance is only about density. While
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this ordinance only proposes a potential increase in density on the three properties that were shown. with respect to maximum height, maximum height of buildings are already regulated in
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It's a minimum of two stories in most areas and a maximum of eight in some areas. For example,
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The waterfront district, I believe it's ‸ allowed, but ‸ in the Cocoa Village sub-district, it's allowed by development agreement.
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Cocoa Village sub-district. That's the hotel development project. So, in order for a building to be eight stories in height, there would need to be a development agreement and it could be allowed in a much larger
area
already in the ‸ Cocoa Village sub-district by development agreement. So, again, ‸ I just want to make sure it's clear that this ordinance is just about density.
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So,
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as I said, could impact height, obviously. And I think that was one of the points that Councilwoman
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But I just wanted to make sure it was clear that ‸ this ordinance doesn't impact ‸ directly height. Eight stories is already permitted implemented in certain ways in the existing regulating plan. So, I just
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to make that point.
I
think I've made my point. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you for the point of clarification.
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Sir? Yes, sir.
‸ Mr.
Mayor,
I
just want to clarify the three sites there. It's 430 Brevard, 505 Brevard, and 603 Brevard,
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So, the hotel
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Okay. Thank you. Any other questions for staff so I can turn it over to the public? See if they have their input. Chair, I'd like to close this portion to council and open it to the public. Please come forward and state your name and your address for us. Please.
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Oh, you got a couple of hands up there, ma'am.
Oh,
okay.
Yeah,
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get up and roll and go to the podium.
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I can't see who else is back there. Someone else? Come on to the podium,
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and I am just talking from the cuff so please bear with me. The conversation regarding height of buildings in the village is debated strongly both ways. If you look back a couple of decades before I got here, the village was not considered a great place to be. It has improved tremendously over time. It's known for being quaint and historic and family-friendly,
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which is a wonderful thing. And what we hope to hang on to and maintain, bringing more people in, turning this into a destination rather than just a day trip is highly desirable. I also speak from a merchant's point of view. My wife has a store here. So we like that. We understand there's tradeoffs, there's things to gain, things to lose, And that's kind of the nature of progress as it goes forward. So that being said,
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There is word on the street that retail cannot survive in the village, for a number of reasons. And as retail dies, in order to keep the tax base up, what we need to do is bring in more, food and beverage services into those store spaces. In particular, bars. ‸ And the idea is we will create a nightlife district in Cocoa Village and transition from ‸ the come play with us, come shop with us, come dine with us, come create with us, come enjoy the waterfront into a come drink with us. And this is the idea of turning this over time into a drinking destination like other areas. To me, it would be a terrible affront to what we know and love for Cocoa Village
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being. So if you've never heard anybody in the audience or here that has not heard of that or not familiar with this, let me, open the page to that and bring it out. But to the point of keeping Cocoa Village the wonderful place that it is and having it grow and prosper is what I think we all desire. Once again, these are my thoughts. Most of the people on the historic Cocoa Village Main Street board agree with me but I can't say that I'm speaking for them at this time because I didn't clear it beforehand.
That's
it. Thank you.
Thank you.
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Good evening, Mr. Blake Council.
Yes, good evening.
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Mrs. Kettner. My name is Donna Kettner. I live at [address].
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and
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A lot of improvements have happened over the years. I always knew the potential of the downtown.
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and I didn't understand
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wasn't being modernized, developed, why weren't there businesses opening. We are on the waterfront between, I always say this and you're going to get tired of me hearing it,
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‸ You can pass our front door. So we've always had the potential and my concern is that we continue to grow in the right direction. I will be saddened to see
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village. I can't tell you how many people love to come here and come back every single year to enjoy a piece of what we have,
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to better ourselves as a historical destination destination in America.
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but we still have the opportunity to remain charmful and have something to offer where you can't get it anywhere else but right here in Cocoa Village. So, I am for positive development but I do not want to see an eight-story building take all of the sunset away and all of the breeze that you get on Bavard Avenue from our rivers. That's what's going to happen if you over-develop it. I think as a community we have enough talented resources here not ‸ to depend upon outside resources such as developers who don't live here but want to cash in and move back to their homes elsewhere.
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in our walking areas in the downtown area.
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high-rises. They have the entire waterfront it doesn't look like a big huge box smack in the middle of our town. That's why these people moved here because of shopping and dining and
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That's why they came here. That's why they bought here. They wanted to be able to walk from their condos down in to eat at the restaurants to shop at my store at Bobby's store anybody else who has a business, who has survived in good times and bad times. I can't tell you enough how important it is for us to keep green space. Our park is used every day by this community. They love having a piece of green space. We have to work as a community. Do not destroy what we have worked so hard to maintain to grow as a downtown such as Cocoa Village. Thank you.
Thank you.
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This is a tough situation because I love the village too but people that own property there that want to get out or change
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Who wanted to see that go? but nobody would buy it or do this or do that? He wanted out. We got high-rise there and that hurts a lot of the people on the street opposite.
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a pretty nice place. And then they went across ‸ in the back. and we can't hold back progress. And it has to be done with this thought of the board. I like the idea you people are talking ‸ everything over and let us folks talk too. But the only thing I can say is go ahead with your ideas and go for the best. Thank you.
Thank you, sir. Mr. Murphy. Steve.
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Three things that I didn't hear discussed here I'd just like to hear is one, does this possibly jeopardize the CRA with the county? The
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seeing us putting all these additional things that
are
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doing in this redevelopment Is that going to possibly jeopardize them withdrawing
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and those funds there and dispersing them otherwise. The second thing is, as you all know and ‸ we've discussed this numerous times here before is parking
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is bad. And no matter what you do there, ‸ you're going to exacerbate the parking issues in the Cocoa Village. The third thing ‸ is those streets there that you're talking about the development on are historic streets and they're very small and very narrow.
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any discussion there concerning how we're going to handle that with fire and emergency services vehicles.
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fire engines and a lot more emergency vehicles possibly in the event of a catastrophe or something like that. So I would like to understand or at
least
make sure that those things have been addressed.
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The various multiple departments we have and the trust and the belief of our city manager, city attorney and staff members here. Trust me
it's been
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addressed sir. Rest assured. Okay, any other individuals who would like to come forward? Please come forward and state your name.
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Thank you Mr. Mayor. I'm Bill Riddle, a long time resident of Cocoa. I appreciate councilperson's causes, comments about the height of the building.
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this construction that they would have to provide for on-site parking? Because the way it is now, and he was correct, it's ‸ really going to be a problem with
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this many ‸ people without places to park. Thank you sir.
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council?
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Sir.
Yes sir, just for further clarification for some of the members in the audience and citizens as well as myself, a few points.
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the density which could affect height but we already have a height restriction in the waterway, on the waterfront,
the overlay.
Waterfront overlay. So, ‸ it does
not, it does not affect the height restrictions that are currently in the code. You can have buildings up to eight stories
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most of these areas under the regulating plan by development agreement approved by the city council. This ordinance only allows a potential increase in density from 30 units per acre to not to exceed 125 units on those three properties that are depicted on the screen only. So that,
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the city council's discretion ‸ through an approval of a development agreement and meeting all of the factors in the proposed comprehensive plan amendment including adequacy of on-site parking and impact on off-site parking which is
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And then one of the gentlemen's question was how would it affect the CRA? I think, I'm not sure if all the council, we took a trip down, well I think everybody's done a tour of what CRAs are and this is what they encourage you to make improvements to these designated areas. That's the whole purpose of a CRA, that's what they want you to do so you can
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as he alluded to any development that goes on down here in the village, it has to be approved through the council. So there's not going to be anyone just bringing development, throwing shovels in the ground and there's no regulations being there or
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So that's all I have.
Any other comments?
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like to approve the
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the proposed ordinance
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the future land use element as recommended by the LPA and
the
city staff and direct city staff to transmit the proposed ordinance and all supporting documentation to the Department of Economic Opportunity and other reviewing agencies for written comment prior to the city council conducting the second reading and adoption of the ordinance. I'll
second it.
We have a motion on the floor by the chair, second by Councilman Dowell. Chair is going to call the question. All in favor by saying aye.
Aye. Any
nays?
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Nay. That the record
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Yes. One ‸ nay. Councilwoman
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yes. ‸ Deputy Mayor
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Councilman
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And the chair, yes. I'm going to give you a new name,
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Moving on to item number three,
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the ordinance 06, 2022, a comprehensive plan text amendment consistent with chapter 1634 state statutes to correct a scrivener's error. And the future land use map figure FLU-1 to provide the RU-2-10 zoning district in a liable zoning district only in
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category. This is for the
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Also, this is item number three. We want to correct this scrivener error so that the appropriate low density development will continue in accordance with the substitute consent decree by removing the current inconsistency in the figure FLU-1. This will also not change the FLU designation of any parcel of ‸ land stated above by the
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of properties. As for
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would you read the ordinance in?
Okay. An ordinance of the city council of the city of Cocoa Brevard County, Florida, adopting a large-scale comprehensive plan text amendment, correcting a scrivener's error in figure flu one set forth in the future land use element to provide. The RU-210 zoning district is only an allowable zoning district in the low-density residential future land use category, providing data and analysis in the legal basis set forth in the recitals to support the proposed comprehensive plan amendment, providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions incorporation into the comprehensive plan severability, and an effective date and legal status of the plan amendment. This is a transmittal hearing, and as you noted, Mayor, this is to correct the scrivener's error in a table in the comprehensive plan. The consent decree, which is generally located west of Florida Avenue and east ‸ of US 1, is subject to a federal court consent decree. Pursuant to that consent decree, the city is required to maintain the low residential character of that particular area. That area is currently has a future land ‸ designation of low density residential, which is consistent with the comprehensive plan. The area has an RU-210 zoning district designation, which is currently consistent with ‸ the consent decree and the comprehensive plan. The only thing we're doing is correcting a
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error in the table, which denotes RU-210 under the wrong category of medium density residential and high density residential. It should be depicted on the table under the heading low density residential. So it's just correcting ‸ the scrivener's error. I'd be happy to answer any specific questions you have regarding
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consider a house cleaning ordinance.
Okay. Thank you,
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Mrs. Essings. Okay. I'm seeing that this is a public hearing.
I
must and I will abide by protocol. Chair would like to close this portion to council and over to the public. Please feel free to come forward and state your name and address this particular item. You have 180 seconds.
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to close it to the public and return it to council. What are the wishes of council? Motion to approve. Second. We have a motion on the floor by
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a second by
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call
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question. ‸ All in favor by saying aye. Aye. And a nays. Ayes have it unanimously. Proceeding on to item number 6-4, Council consideration and public comment on the allocation of the 2022 Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistant grant in the amount of $14,108.
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The police department is planning on utilizing this funds to train the department in diversity, equity, and inclusion of training for officers and staff. We have a two-year period of time to utilize all funds and interests.
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Do we have any questions? What are the wishes of Council? Motion to approve. We have a motion on the floor.
Second.
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Motion by Councilwoman Cost.
just
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going to call the question
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by saying aye. Aye.
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You want to say anything,
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Okay, brother. So, yes, sir.
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unanimously. I'm sorry. Back it up. I've got to listen to the public. I'm sorry. I apologize before I call the question. Chair would like to close this portion to the public. Councilman. And
open
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to the public. You guys got to say something. Hey,
what about me? What
about me? Yes,
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on.
It's about our police department doing a phenomenal job. Crime is being reduced in the great city of
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And you will receive the data shortly.
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Going once, going twice.
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We have a motion on the floor by Councilwoman Cox. Second by
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call the question. All in favor by saying aye. Aye. Any names? Ayes have it unanimously.
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Approve a preliminary subdivision for Riverwalk consistent with chapter 18 subdivision and dependence A zoning of the city code. Okay. Also with this particular item I would like to say it compromised a single family subdivision with 25 lots, approximately 2.2 units per acre. The property is a former orange grove and it was undeveloped and it's corridor long US 1. Correct? Correct. And also it is a preliminary subdivision plant for parcel land west side of North Indian River Drive identified as parcel 24-36-20-BM-1
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earlier
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Mayor, I have been advised by
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have I do not have a conflict of interest per se, but because I am the next door neighbor of the owner of this particular development that I do not want to have any perception of a conflict of interest and thus I have filled out and will submit
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and step off the dais for this conversation. I'm ‸ recusing myself, yes.
Thank you, ma'am.
Okay,
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Thank you, mayor and council members. Yes, as stated, this is an application from BSC consultants on behalf of the property owner Flamingo Land Company Incorporated. It is for a single-family subdivision of 25 lots at approximately 2.2
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per acre. The property is zoned RU17 single-family residential and CN neighborhood commercial. Both these zoning districts allow for residential development at the density proposed. The ‸ subdivision is supported by tracks for stormwater recreation and access. You mentioned the location.
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and will not be allowed to access highway, US-1. It does comply with all the codes. Our city attorney has reviewed the opinion
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closely and has given their approval. The one thing to maybe note on here too is the total amount of the existing hardwood trees to be removed shall be mitigated with similar hardwood species. So again, encouraging that right tree, right place through our zoning code. ‸ All the bulk regulations are met for minimum lot area setbacks, those type of things have all been identified on the plat. It does have consistency with the comprehensive plan, policy, and objectives and the preliminary subdivision for Riverwalk has been found to be consistent with chapter 18, the subdivision chapter and appendix A zoning of the city code. planning and zoning has recommended approval with three conditions of which the last condition they did amend.
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will read these three conditions. The first is that the large-scale site plan should not be effective until and unless the preliminary subdivision has been approved by you today. ‸ The 30-inch DBH oak removed requires replacement trees
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DBH for that particular tree
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Lastly, that the developer agrees to enhance by design permitting and installing a living shoreline along its river edge property, parcel A and tract E on the plat, and not preclude construction of a dock if allowed by code, which was the last part of that was the addition by the planning and zoning board. and yes, that's all I have and I'd be happy to answer any questions. Yes,
ma'am. Councilman
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and let me ask one question.
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well. Yes.
Thank
you. Councilman
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is yours, sir.
I just got one question for you.
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US1 because that used to be commercial because I was here for
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as chairman of the Board of Adjustments when he had that in there. So that was at that time it was commercial.
It is still zoned commercial. It's zoned CN neighborhood ‸ commercial. However, they are not required to change it because it does allow single family residential consistent with their proposal.
Thank you.
Any other questions? I have one question. And I'm directing this one toward my
good friend
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Frank Sullivan but it's pertaining to you. Along the riverfront where Dixon Boulevard intersects right there there's wilderness there that wooded area there used to be an artesian welder many years ago and
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That area will be protected still correct? There's no I'm just trying to make sure I'm trying to keep that same level of
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the applicant speak to the potential development on that lot.
So there will be development on that lot potentially? Is that what you're telling me?
It is a lot identified for a single family home yes.
Yes ma'am okay
yes ma'am yes
ma'am that issue was south of
this particular development yes
right at right at the corner of Dixon and
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River Drive that ‸ north corner that that's not part of this
this project's
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north of Indian Circle
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anything on any of these lots.
Yeah, they're tying into the gravity system that's just out of them.
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goes north from there.
Okay, anyone else? Please come forward and guess now.
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Drive.
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proposed development. And my concern is that south of me, three houses, including my own, there's a road. So we're going to have this property with the road and then four lots, three houses to the north, there's a road.
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That is putting a lot of vehicular traffic in a very small area that has a lot of bicyclists, walkers, including myself, you know, I walk my dogs every day. So it's just a lot of traffic
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a very confined amount of space or potential traffic.
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could
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this traffic to be going out, ‸ to have that alternative traffic pattern so there wouldn't be as much of a safety concern from my perspective of having all of this potential traffic with a one-way only access.
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Sure. So from a traffic impact perspective, it's ‸ pretty minor in terms of that. It only had 25 homes, so it's around 240 trips in comparison. The
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40 homes.
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But in terms ‸ of traffic impact on those roadways, it's still relatively minor. The roadway does have sidewalks through there as well, so that should help with the pedestrian point there. As far as
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especially for DOT, on high-speed roadways with large bike lanes. So you'd rather put those vehicles on a smaller local road like Indian River Drive, and then they have the immediate access to Dixon Boulevard and have an actual signalized intersection to get in and out of
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of limit in terms of ‸ how many houses should be between two roads?
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as just general neighborhoods and subdivision type areas.
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Probably just that access off Indian Circle would prevent an
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that roadway.
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kind of in that same area, there is a stormwater drainage issue.
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water that's draining from elsewhere. It's not like rainwater. And my concern is perhaps this construction could exacerbate that problem, not just for myself, but also the neighbors to myself. They also have this huge water drainage issue as well. And I know there's been a stormwater impact study done. It was available to us.
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not potentially the outliers like the the bordering properties.
Yeah, the engineer of record can probably elaborate more on it. But so they are required to come in compliance with city code and St. John's water management code on this. They actually exceed those codes. And that was one thing that we asked for them because they don't have a connection to an outfall pipe like some neighborhoods would. It's just not available here. So they're they're actually providing 100% retainage with the grading of their roadways and their lots.
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properties there. Okay.
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Thank you
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but as I remember where that is that the little used to be fruit stand is right here in the lower corner. Okay, I know where it is.
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Now, as a resident of Indian River Drive, I am concerned about the amount of traffic and not having access to US-1. I agree with you, ma'am, that we really need that. What is the road to the south and to the north that people are going to have to use to get to the Indian River Drive entrance to this development?
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Most vehicles would come off of Dixon. So that's the main collector road right there. That's
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at US-1.
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road to the north road to the north could be a number of them. There's there's a lot of what's the one closest closest is Bedford I Would imagine most would and does that does that give access to us one? It does through the neighborhood
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a little space there Does it might have a
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So or any of those lots on the river Are the two lots in the in the upper right hand corner those on the river? So that little space there Is the Indian River Drive Yeah, I think you really need to go back and and look at access from us one
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So my name is Dan burns I live My wife and I we have a property along this this area under consideration One concern is where would the access for construction vehicles Be taking place would
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the expected duration of this construction? Is it months is it years centuries? Yeah And then the other thing is is there any regulations or requirements for? Fencing
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um The other consider thing that concerns us ‸ is The security with construction I know firsthand a lot of crime a lot of theft comes into our areas So are the police? Being prepared for that. I know there's a lot of construction throughout the entire county, but you know, I I live over here
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You know, and then also is the access point I know Dixon is an access point to Indian River However,
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and so my other concern is that they'd be traveling through there and That'd be a concern of mine. That's it. Thank you
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Good evening mayor council members My name is Kenneth Ludwa with BSE consultants three Kenneth Yep last name Ludwa We are the applicants engineer 312 South Harbor City Boulevard Melbourne, Florida
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I do want to answer some of the concerns here Uh, you know as far as stormwater
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Uh 100% of the stormwater up up to the 100 year storm will be infiltrated on site So there will be no no offsite runoff We're actually lucky here because we've got good good soils and it is up on a bit of a ridge So the the water table is low which gives us the opportunity to get all that water back into the ground where it belongs Um as far as construction access yes, that would be the same access as the permanent road roadway Off of Indian River Drive Um, the applicant will be required or the contractor will be required to submit a maintenance of traffic Plan to make sure that that that is Done safely and there will be a construction entrance there as well to make sure that
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dirt, you know dirt isn't tracked on the Indian River Drive Um, I do want to point out that those two uh tracks that there's a tract Uh, those two tracks along the river will not be developed Those are going to be uh restored by removing all of the exotic vegetation And uh, and then replanted with with native vegetation there Uh pulling down the vines it'll actually it'll actually do kind of two things it'll it'll improve the view But it'll also enhance the the native vegetation which is kind of the combination. I think everybody everybody wants
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which is very similar to the neighborhoods To the neighborhoods to the north and south there. So it fits in very well with the surrounding neighborhoods
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us one and Indian River Drive which loops the system that actually improves the system for for everybody's sake And sewer we will be building the first segment of actually an improvement that the city was already planning to do
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I think that's the those are the main things I wanted to present if uh if I can answer any other questions or concerns I'd be happy to thank you
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Hi
this is Rosemary I just wanted him to answer Dan's question about the duration
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Yes,
I meant to answer that one uh the construction period would be between nine months and a year.
Okay, can you slowly migrate this way
please ladies and gentlemen if you want to say something ‸ I promise you we won't
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‸ when the development came in and not a number of months ago um, we weren't sure what was going on but we had already obviously we have 100% plans as of January We coordinated with bsc and we gave them the design layout the preliminary design so that You know with
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125 feet south of the of the entrance is where the existing sewer is.
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and take care of the sewer and If
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that manhole and go forward So there was coordination done between my
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Hello,
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just speak from my heart. Um, I just moved here seven months ago
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me sick to my stomach There are two two reasons for coming here was the beauty of Indian river drive
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we have something very unique here And
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and I can't imagine The scale of the buildings that are going to happen in village I will add one more thing
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you my heart is really heavy from where I see what I see happening here And i'm not sure how to get involved or to Impact this situation, but all I have to do is plea that these two very unique things of this area aren't destroyed and somebody and we think very carefully About scale about aesthetics about you know the contribution to these two sort of um, I guess very valuable assets we have and I can tell you i'm shaking from the core of my my soul um, I moved seven months ago for these things and I'm now very very concerned and anything I can do to help I will But i'm i just want to sort of speak from my heart. I
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speak from the heart
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uh, Steve Rinker and I live at [address] And by looking at this map It looks like there's a road coming in behind us. We have a uh an easement issue We've had an easement issue for many years there by the fruit stand There's been
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that the
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and uh Florida power and light and phone company comes in through there to approach the uh service spot right in our backyard And I i'm just kind of wondering how that's going to affect us And uh Just on another thing when you come off of dixon onto the river road They're about maybe halfway between Dixon and indian river circle It floods when it gets wet And that's you know, thank goodness
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west side And that's all I wanted to say
I'm
trying to exercise it ‸ Dan burns uh Anyway,
the one question I
I thought of is um are there requirements for fencing around the property? Um You know is it is it wood is it nothing is it trees? um And then again is um you know is there any consideration for the traffic that would probably come through our neighborhood off of bedford um
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Thank you
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with regard to fencing fencing is proposed I i'm sorry I off the top of my head I can't say exactly whether it's required or not, but it is proposed. And uh there's also there is also uh perimeter landscaping as well along the fence as well So that'll kind of break it up and make it make it look nice With regard to the utility easements those are noted on the on the plan and those will be maintained and kept
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um I'm not on the border of it, but um i am I'm glad to see that housing is going in there because we really need housing
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cocoa I'm sure people from other places will want to come here because
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But you know when you live right there you do have concerns so are these going to be one story or two stories? Possibly both Okay, well i'm two stories so i'm one of the few that's two stories on that circle
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when the police have been there and had their demonstrations and you already know
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It's a small circle. So
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hate to see
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engine now So just kind of be thinking about that
Thank you
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uh The question for
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um What's the location of the retention pond? And then the second thing, um where the houses on Indian Hill Drive, um but up to the the uh subdivision? Is there a swell in between the two? The second, what what the young lady was asking about was potentially dumping, possibly dumping water from one property to another. Is there, come pretty sure, the other because I don't have elevation on ‸ this at all. um
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is I know it's an elevation change. Is there ‸ swell in between? ‸ That's
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a great question. uh Actually, all of the lots and all of the property will be tilted into the site, so all drainage will come into the site. There won't be a swale between the sites because they will be a high point where the site, the two neighborhoods join. So uh the uh the retention ponds will be basically in those two triangular tracks at the corners.
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um and then there's another one kind of alongside the road as it as it slopes back down to Indian
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river drive so
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okay so thank you
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yes sir i'm i'm definitely interested in this project as you know this is in my district so um i have a special interest to see what's going in there my question to you is there any plans i'm not sure if it's a requirement for any green space or a recreational area for this neighborhood? And would it be private or public, open to the public?
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This plan does not include any public uh any public green space. um The two tracks along the river, uh as I mentioned, will be will be open space and certainly enjoyable and visible from you know for you know uh as far as public, you know the view of the river there. um i there's But there's yeah
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Is there any plans for recreation for the uh tenants in the neighborhood? I know it's a private neighborhood. uh as One of the things that's been big in the city is uh uh parks and recreational areas for neighborhoods. So I was wondering if this neighborhood had a plan uh for anything like that for us the residents that's in there. so
And not specifically within this neighborhood. It would be reliant on public you know public parks in the area. Okay. uh And I
think I heard someone in the audience say something about the flooding off of Dixon and Indian River uh Drive. If I'm correct, that's being addressed with a project that we had a grant for uh
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coming up real soon, I think. uh
Yes, we we have a grant to start the design to elevate a portion of Dixon and
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River Drive right in that area. We don't know the extent of that yet until we get into final design and also do some water quality projects down through there.
Okay. um That's all I got.
Okay. Now we come to the point of execution. What are the wishes of council?
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Okay, we have a
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second by Councilman Coins. Just gonna ‸ call the question. All
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