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In-laws, that's your in-laws, right?

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Yeah, he told me he won

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at church. Yeah, they played over in Orlando. But then their first game, their first home game was Saturday.

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Chairman, who did you say for invocation? Invocation, man and purple. Or future, or whatever they want to call it. Hot, ‸ hot, ‸ hot.

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Yes, sir. Would everyone secure your cell phones and pages, please, ma'am? Police service.

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downtown. Mrs. Rogers will lead us in pledge.

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‸ My pardon me.

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Would everyone rise, please?

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Thank you for another day of life, for health and strength, Lord. Thank you ‸ for allowing us to be here tonight. Bless us that we go through this meeting that we might make wise decisions for the city of Cocoa.

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Amen. Mr. Recording Secretary, sir, would you give us roll call, sir? Yes, sir.

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Chairperson Blake. Present, sir. Vice Chairperson Hearn.

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Agency member Rogers.

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And agency attorney Garganese.

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All present and counted

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for Mr. Chairman. Yes, sir. Thank you very much, sir. Okay, proceeding on to the next item. Item number 2-1,

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What are the wishes of the agency? Motion to approve.

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Second.

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We had a motion on

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Second by agency member X.

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All in favor of saying aye.

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Aye. As have it unanimously. Proceeding on to item number 3, delegations. Do we have any cards, sir? Go delegations, Mr.

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Chairman.

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the Four Corners visioning

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Good evening. Yes, sir.

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agency members.

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the record, Steve Noto, RBI planning and

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for having us this evening. Good to see everyone. For those that I haven't met, good evening. Nice to meet you here this evening. I'm happy to present. I'll give you a brief overview of the workshop that was held about six weeks ago, talking about the Four Corners. I'll give you an abbreviated version of the presentation that we did at that workshop and then provide you with the feedback that we received from those in attendance. So, as you may recall, we held a workshop back in June regarding the

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Some of the reasons for that, or the main reason I should say for that is zoning and land use inconsistency within the corridor. A little bit of background. We've been working with the city for about a year and a half now, helping with staff augmentation, certain planning and zoning reviews and jobs. And this was something that came up as a part of the work we were doing with staff. It was identified that a number of parcels within the US 1 520 corridor had zoning categories that were not compliant with their ‸ future land use designations. And that was causing an issue for development and redevelopment to occur. So, as we dove in with staff to determine what to do about this, it was decided that a visioning session would be positive for the community to determine what should be happening in this corridor. And as you can see, we have a number of boards that are here this evening that we showed at the workshop. We have a map on the overhead. There's an area that's outlined in yellow, which is kind of an overall study area where this issue is currently happening. And then the red dotted areas, the four corners intersection. And

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area because it acts as a gateway into

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And it's a very significant intersection just in general in

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On the overhead right now is a zoomed in view of the four corners intersection. It consists of 22 parcels with six different property owners. And what we did at the workshop and when we described and what we're, what is part of our work here is that we're wanting to understand the existing conditions of the four corners. Understand the existing mixed use vision, how it's currently being implemented. And if there's gaps, how to create opportunities for a consistent theme from an urban design and land use perspective.

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especially as you go west. So what we did at the workshop is we did a bit of a planning 101. Um, we explained what future land uses. Of course we have the slide here that we shared with the folks that were in attendance, just describing how land use dictates density. Um, and if you're a homeowner own

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property, how many houses you can have on it per acre. Um,

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evening. You can kind of see there's this lighter purple, um, that's shown as mixed use, uh, on the overhead. That is the existing future land use designation, um, of the area in question. You can see the light blue outline around that area here. That's the larger study area.

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So that is a mixed use corridor. Um, the zoning though dictates kind of your performance standards or bulk requirements, your setbacks and the different uses you can have within a zoning category. So we described that to the audience and showed this zoomed in view of the zoning map in that general area. And you can see it's a mixture of general commercial and commercial parkway type zoning categories. The mixed use future land use that I just mentioned, um, encourages a mixture of uses residential commercial office, recreational ‸ institutional. And then there's also, uh, uh, visioning statements within the comp plan that talk about mixed use being areas where there's available public transit, compact walk, walkable environments, unified architectural streetscape themes and mixed use buildings. What does the mixed use building? Well, here's an example of one. And this is something you'd see perhaps more in a more ‸ urban environment, more locally, Cocoa village, um, maybe in Vieira as well, downtown Melbourne,

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Typically have structured parking ‸ along with that.

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a lot of pedestrian activity and

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typical auto oriented or suburban ‸ landscape. So the challenge that, uh, we're having right now is that within that study area, the four corners, all the zoning is CP commercial parkway. And the main purpose of the commercial parkway is that it focuses on uses that are, um, highway oriented, uh, with heavy traffic and their auto oriented uses, not necessarily a support of a pedestrian friendly, um, types of uses.

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means.

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uh, probably can't get more auto oriented than that, maybe except for a drive through restaurant. And what is the challenge? Well, CP is not consistent with the mixed use future land. This is a screen grab from the comprehensive plan. And on the right hand side, you see the mixed use future land use column.

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all the applicable zoning districts, um, that are compliant with that mixed use future land use. The CP and the CG are not part of that. And so that creates an issue, uh, from an enforcement perspective, from a development perspective, but also the mixed use future land use is trying to accomplish something. And those are the zoning districts that were identified when it was first created a number of years ago that would help accomplish the goals of the mixed use future land use category.

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It's a huge right of way state road, 520. Um, and there's parts of it, a number of areas within it that are not improved yet. They're just kind of open right of way areas. You can see on the aerial here, there's just open unused space on the north and side of both sides of the intersection, both east and west. And, you know, typically that's a hold for perhaps sidewalk improvements, public transit improvements, lane widening overhead power lines, underground utilities, etc. But in this case, it kind of creates, um, I would say an ideal environment for redevelopment as we go through,

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brings in the challenges of the kind of auto oriented infrastructure that's out there now is this excessive right of way. So as part of our study and as part of the workshop we had, we wanted to do an existing conditions analysis. So everybody kind of understood where we were coming from and started getting folks to think of a different way of the intersection in a different way.

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This is kind of an urban design study, an overview of the existing conditions of the intersection, showing how it's not necessarily meeting the intent of the mixed use future land use and the mixed use vision. And we were starting to talk about single use buildings, what types of street level landscaping may be out on these sites, the type of pedestrian infrastructure, if any, what type of transit availability there is, and then what other types of urban design features may or may not be on these sites.

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is that you had sort some of the fabric of what the mixed use future land use and the mixed use policies we're looking for. But in a lot of ways, it was lacking the overall mixed use vision as far as the mixture of uses, the types of uses that would encourage pedestrian friendly environment. And maybe a move away from the auto oriented nature of the existing zoning categories and it's noted that, of course, the intersection itself is, of course, very auto oriented.

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have a lot of traffic coming in and out of different cities in and around Coco. So it's a challenging situation and so what we do as is trying to understand where to go with this is that while the vision is mixed use corridor, there's on

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each other. There are strategies, though, from the real world where we can take in, bring in aesthetic standards to help improve the design and therefore the uses of the corridor.

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we've seen these types of things implemented in more traditional auto oriented areas of the state as well. And I'll mention this is on state road 50, which is extremely auto oriented. There's bus route service out there, of course, but it's a completely different built environment. And so we ran through this study in this analysis with the crowd, which was really a lot of fun where we challenged folks to think about what they were seeing

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that are being used in the state.

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infrastructure that was there, such as the overhead power lines, the placement and visibility of crosswalk infrastructure. And then in this specific case where parking was located. Now this is a very hectic intersection on 50 and they found a way here to not only is the parking behind the building, but they went an extra step there to ‸ try and hide it from the secondary street.

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and this is actually a drive through Starbucks as well. ‸ May not even be able to tell it from 50, but there is a small little drive through lane on the back there and we really want to emphasize as well. The building articulation that comes with some of these types of uses and different designs where you're going urban a little bit more new urbanism where the buildings are up on the street signage is treated a little bit differently. Window treatments are a little

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different. The different finishes on the building tend to be a bit more unique.

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the street. You have doorways that empty right out onto the public sidewalk. You have interesting and unique building foundation landscaping and much like the Starbucks across the street. Part of the main use there in this case that the pumps are behind the building in a manner where it's not right up on the street.

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a little bit from the public right of way. And this is

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types of architecture that sort of these large, large businesses that you see everywhere throughout the country can go a little bit differently with their building architecture. If the codes are there to support it. And then this is maybe a couple miles down the road in South downtown. We

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But both drive throughs, but the building frontages are right up on South Orange Avenue. And so it gives it a completely different feel. And this is a corridor where you do have heavy bus usage, heavy traffic, vehicular traffic as well.

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So you're getting uses that perhaps are still auto oriented, just designed in a different way.

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it totally changes the feel of the community and ‸ has a positive impact on the property values as well. And this was as so I came out here a few months ago to take some of the images for the study and on my way back to where I live, I passed this 711 in Sanford. I had to pull over because it caught my attention mainly because it was not in an urban area, but it was the design of the canopy that made me pull in and say, oh, geez, I've never seen a gas canopy like this where they had different articulation points and added some dimension to it.

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I guess you could say at the top and you could see the different building designs that they were brought in there.

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it's a part of it's not in an urban area of the community, but it is within an area that has an overlying PD with the special design standards.

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we wanted to do is to show what could be with the intersection if different codes were brought into place into the land development code that

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And so part of what our team does is create renderings for typically private developers so they can see how their development program could work.

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of that technology and showed why to bring it here to say to show here's what different codes can do.

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significant setbacks. It's not really implementing that mixed use vision. That's part of ‸ the issue with the zoning and the land use right now. So if we brought in codes that were more like the land use, you would have uses that could bring buildings right up to the street, incorporate a different mixture of uses within those buildings

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different landscaping requirements.

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feel comfortable and they're ‸ still going to be a significant setback, especially on 520 because of the right of way. And so like this south, the southwest corner here where those palm trees are, that's, that's a good 50 to 75 feet of right of way or so

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manner to benefit the entire community. So a little bit of a recap of the workshop 1800 notices were sent out before the meeting. We coordinated that with city staff. They were sent out ‸ to everyone that's within both the diamond square and the city of cocoa CRA. The staff published this flyer here that was posted to the city website and

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There was about 100 people that attended the workshop about two dozen were online. We presented this PowerPoint and had a lot of talking points peppered in throughout throughout the presentation. Then we had breakouts where we had members of our RBI staff

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too, which are

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here tonight. I didn't even introduce them. I'm ashamed. We have a Patrick Murray, our planning project manager and Alexis Crespo, who's our vice president of planning.

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And so they were part of the team that was stationed at these boards where we broke everybody out.

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But what they may not have had feelings about and what they didn't like about some of these designs.

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like this land use. So when we're thinking about code amendments and what may come of those code amendments, we wanted people to think about what what on these boards here do you like and not like that you may have seen in other areas, maybe of the county of the state of the country. And how do you want to see those integrated here

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green means good the

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Okay. And the red is no, no, thank you. And I think some of those reds even have little sad faces that were drawn on to them by the attendees. And so the takeaways from this were some were very specific such as do a restaurant where you have rooftop dining and design it in a way that's like a train yard. It was very specific. Some are a bit more general audio or auto auto oriented uses are okay as long as they're buffered and screened from the road and they look nice. Fair enough.

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and then residents above that that's kind of the gold standard that everybody wants to get. Now, interestingly enough, and I'll probably get this into this in a couple slides folks were also concerned about building height. They wanted it stopped at three stories. So it's a challenging thing to balance when you want that vertical mixed use, but you also want manageable building heights. And then of course, last but not least when it comes to land uses neighborhood based scale retail and services, which is so important, especially in this four corners area where you're in between so many local communities, you want to make sure you have services that everyone can attend. Oh, we also talked about mobility. Now this

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another big one ‸ that can't be overlooked because of the size of the right of way, the connections between the communities and what to do with all the extra right of way in the future. And I really enjoyed the feedback that we received on this because it was these images show, you know, a mixture of, of modern implementation of,

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well designed bus stops and such those, those become amenities because people actually need them. It's

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exercise, get the kids to school,

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On the streetscape side of things we brought in. It's kind of a merger of mobility and mobility and the built environment

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you of course have to have a well designed streetscape to provide shade and set back and balance from the auto oriented uses. One point was about trying to find a way to connect the west and the east. It's challenging because of the train tracks and now with it's more intense usage happening there. That's something that can be worked out intergovernment with intergovernmental relations ‸ between all the different parties that are really involved in this intersection. And then the urban design aspect where you can see, you know, this is, I think, where the study started to shine and the feedback was getting very specific and this is kind of the overall recap of everything. Just go with the enhanced design style design standards, get the variety of uses, bring the buildings to the front, give the landscape buffers a chance to be placed and grow and thrive there. Encourage a certain type of architecture, put the parking in the rear and utilize other areas where this has been a success, such as downtown St. Petersburg.

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And that this on this last slide here where we're talking about urban design,

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I thought that's interesting, but it's also more locally. It's the gateway really to Cocoa. It's a gateway to other places.

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important thing is outcomes are to be realized that that remains the heart of this study in the heart of the outcomes.

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So where are we going? Where are we at now?

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to let you know what we heard. We want to hear from you what your input may be.

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week and

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So again, we're looking for your feedback and questions. We are really happy with the amount of folks that showed up to the workshop. We have some really good data and information to move on and we're going to continue to work with staff as we come up to these next two hearings. We have to take any questions we have.

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Okay. We'll proceed in the order that the lights illuminate, but let me be first to say

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You guys fostered a

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gave us their exiting poll comments. Very positive, refreshing, and they look forward toward the future. And clearly beyond a shadow of a doubt, you all are demonstrating that. ‸ Thank you very much. Any questions for Steve of

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So just in your experience that corridor has one, three existing buildings that are there now. Right. ‸ Have y'all faced any of that in any other cities where,

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you said some key words, which was encourage. So have you faced that, that issue with having that conversation with existing owners?

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Absolutely. Um, and what was really nice about the workshop is the owner of the North East and Southeast corner. He was at the meeting.

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This is great. As long as I don't have to give any more right of way, this is fine because it increases my property value.

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if somebody wants to come in down the road and put down an offer, they have very clear direction as to what they can do. And I have a very clear way to, you know, manage my property from a marketing perspective. So it's all about timing and partnerships with this things like this. Um, I've personally been involved in studies that are larger where you have just nothing but the built environment,

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And so it becomes a challenge of just retrofit. I think with this,

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and it's an opportunity. And so as we move on to the next steps where we're talking about code amendments, perhaps comprehensive plan amendments, though, of course, with those be more public hearings, public workshops and things. It's to engage with the property owners and make sure they're aware of what's coming and how they can benefit from it and continue to kind of sell the vision and see what their interest is in perhaps redeveloping or taking advantage of the new codes that are coming in. And so that's

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challenge with those two sites, of course, to be very specific,

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It's a postage stamp size of a property, if you will, the smoke shop and

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mayor as I mentioned at the

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at the workshop, we're not suggesting getting rid of the church. The church should stay, but there's some space around it where there's a little bit of elbow room where you can have some flexibility and design with the buildings. And

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your open space requirements, your impervious surface requirements, there could be ways to provide a little additional infill on that site. Okay, thank you.

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Yeah. Mr. Noto, one of the conversations that I took part in was about a walking bridge over Stone Street.

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And I know that we're not, we may not be in a position to finance that at this point, but I wouldn't want to lose sight of it.

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Yes, I believe I have that. I'm just trying to get to the slide here.

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saw it. It was under the. This one right here under streetscape, the first book work on finding funding

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lines. Okay. And then we had, we had, we had quite a few people come up to us afterwards about that topic. And

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but

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been adjacent, I guess you could say to those types of infrastructure projects. And they're extremely challenging from a funding perspective, but also the intergovernmental coordination that's required to do those types of activities. So, uh, some of the suggestions I gave folks then was to work with space coast TPO.

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those types of projects.

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Thank you. Um, I just have a couple of questions. When we say do not exceed three story ‸ building heights, is that a part of the zoning or is that just, that is part of the zoning?

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‸ Ideally ‸ would be part of the zoning code. Yes, ma'am.

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Okay, because the rooftop entertainment would be. I know that's a story. So, all right, then as far as you answered it, the

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And I feel that what you showed us was very exciting.

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in very well. Um, I'm not into let's get beachy and go Key West. We're not Key West. But I guess the other question I have is what is the vision to the north side of 520? Oh, and I just do want to say I really dislike having any more automobile. We have so many gas stations. I think we've run out of brownfield grants to dig all the buried tanks. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, it's just, it doesn't say anything very nice about us. That kind of that look of abandoned gas stations drives me crazy. But anyway, what is the vision for the north side of 520?

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Sure. Um, so as part of this exercise, I'll refrain from going all the way back on the slides. But if you see the boards here, the darker purple is it indicates a different land use category. And so our focus right now is just kind of on the inconsistencies, but point well taken, because if we're going to go on to 520 and talk about, especially building architecture, pedestrian connectivity, consistency of uses,

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Something we would refrain from doing, including the north side, because it ultimately it should all blend together. So it's kind of maybe a different part of the study, but folks that should be ingrained in it as well.

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between 520

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of, uh, what is it? Palm

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roof.

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Little island. Yes.

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The old, the one in the, the first one where you have to, ‸ you know, you're swerving around it.

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Yeah.

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old key lime pie.

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what kind of company? It's a roofing

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company.

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roofing. Some AM or something like that.

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trying to remember.

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I, I, I,

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can see

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me. Really. I'm avoiding that area, you know. The

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one that's in the medium. In

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the medium.

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That used to be the lime pie shop.

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‸ Yeah. That's a native American hut that's up there. The gentleman, Mr. Moorhead constructed it that way that you could. It looks like a tiki. Yeah.

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They were having crab races. That's

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right. Mr. Moorhead shared with me, he got his idea from the native American tribe, um, one in South, um, Florida.

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Um, Mr. Steve, sir, the Southwest corner. Yes. ‸ And it's like, well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Mrs. Rogers. I'm sorry. Agency member Rogers.

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you down now? Thank you. Oh,

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Zets. Agency member, do you want to say anything?

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Okay. Anybody else? I don't want to trade on. ‸ No, no.

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I'm excited about the project.

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Oh, yes. I ‸ concur.

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land development there, what are some of the challenges that they face? And here's the reason why.

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it's a full desert.

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it. There's not enough space, something to that effect. So, um, how can we navigate through that? Because there, I mean, and I'm less than a half a mile from the corner there, sir. And my thing is, and you're right, my church is right,

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miniature Aldi or, or, you know, thrifty or whatever the case may be?

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Sure. So, you know, purely from zoning and uses, those things could happen. I think functionally is what, from what I've seen on that property, there are some challenges with overhead, underground infrastructure challenges with easements that exists kind of in the middle. Uh,

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Uh, as so there's a number of things that are working, I would say towards a disadvantage that impact parking, access, building heights, things of that nature.

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this could encourage other users, such as the ones you've mentioned to come in because of flexible design options that may come about that may not exist today. And so just kind

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owners that if they have ideas for, for development, meet with city staff as early as you can. So that way you can vet out some of these ideas and especially a property like that, that has some challenges, have those discussions early and often. So we, you

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you can hopefully find a positive outcome for everybody.

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Okay. I'll ask you my other question privately. Any other questions? I actually did think of something. Go ahead, ma'am. The floor is yours. Um,

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I get the impression from reading through this material that this is a preliminary feel things out, uh, step, but that codes need to change in order to. Okay. ‸ So what, what's the next step? What, what has to be done to get those codes changed?

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Sure. Yes. Great question. When we meet council next week, um, we'll be presenting recommendations for next steps. Um, we're finalizing those now, but they will have to do with code amendments, comprehensive plan amendments. I think it's at that point, we'll get our timeline. To implement those. And so code amendments and such, you know, we have a pretty good idea of what to do with them based on the review we've already done of the code and of the comp plan.

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that could occur this calendar year.

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Okay. Sounds like in order for me to stay abreast, I need to come to the council meeting.

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Um, the other

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that the property owners have to be on board with whatever happens after that. Now, if, if code changes happen, I'm assuming that the property, the stuff

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uses that are already there are going to be grandfathered until something else happens or are they going to be required to tear down the buildings and do something else? Or, you know, how does that

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work? Right. I'm just thinking here. Most of the uses, you know, perhaps less the smoke shop, they would just become grandfathered.

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you know, you're maybe bringing in all the zoning categories into that land use, solving that situation, creating an overlay with design standards and different standards for uses and such. There's, there are ways where no, we're not going to suggest people go in and demolish their buildings and their businesses and such.

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in, they would follow the new code. Um,

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then, then, then,

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were just saying they would have the opportunities to come in and talk to the building department and say, Hey, you know, what can I do? Or, you know, how, how best can I accomplish what I'm looking for? Okay. Well, that's cool. Um, this is, this is a big deal. Um, and maybe I'm just want to say it because, you know, to the public, I don't know how many people watch

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CRA meetings, but,

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well. But it, when people go to visioning meetings, and I've been to, I don't even know how many in the 30 years I've been in Cocoa Village.

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don't really realize that it takes a really long time for some of that stuff to come to fruition. So I just, I just want to put that out there. It's step by step and let's not let it fall by the wayside. But don't think that we're going to have all new

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All right. And that was all I had. Thank you, sir.

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I can guarantee you the gentleman that owns a piece of property in the southwest corner. He's ready to construct them. That's exciting. He's he's biting at the bit. That's exciting. Just have to tell, uh, just to Max that we just be patient. Patience.

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Again, thank you for ‸ excellent presentation. Thank you. ‸ Additional questions. We thank you, sir. You've been a good servant for the city of Cocoa and the citizens. Thank you, sir.

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Appreciate it.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank

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forward to the next phase. Yes, sir. See you at council meeting.

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All right. Proceeding on the next item. Item number action 5-1 request agency to approval of the budget resolution CCRA-24-437 to amend this fiscal year

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In the amount of $70,000 to purchase confidential IT infrastructure for the riverfront park and Taylor park. Please be mindful that this is a Florida

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So it is not for the public release because of the sensitivity of it.

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Yes, ma'am. As you noted, this item is confidential for Florida statute 119.071 and cannot be for public release. We are asking for a budget resolution ‸ in the amount of $70,000 to be approved tonight for costs that are associated with purchasing items for riverfront and Taylor park that are IT related items.

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So move. I'm looking for a second

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second.

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Do we have any questions? Saying none.

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favor by saying aye.

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Aye.

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We have ‸ unanimous vote. Thank you. Go in peace. Safe journey home.

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to staff on the budget prior priorities for the up and coming fiscal year 2025 budget process.

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to approve this budget.

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Thank

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Mr. Chairman.

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haven't provided you with any budgetary items at this time.

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2025. With the noting that we have approximately $350,000 proposed already in the budget, which are the normal salary operating and operational costs that are associated with our CRA. We anticipate approximately $1.7 million in revenue to come from our TIF funding for this year between the county and the city and the D4 recreational funding. And to note that we are in the process of updating the CRA plan right now.

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which will involve multiple public meetings, which will have feedback from the community on what we need to do with the CRA for the next. To complete our 17 years, 16 years of the CRA till 2041. And as part of that process, we can budget accordingly in our contingency for projects that are potentially placeholders in essence placeholders for fiscal year 2025.

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ideas through that process.

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And in the meantime, we would need to just have items that are budgeted infrastructure type items operating capital items that are budgeted that can be changed. But we as her Florida statutes for our CRA, we have to budget some funds according to our budget to meet and we have to balance our budget for this year. So currently right now approximately $350,000 budgeted, anticipating 1.7 million roughly in revenue. And until we get those TIF numbers, we don't know what the projected revenue is going to be. And so we have to be able to allocate some funds for infrastructure projects that we currently have in our CRA plan.

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be completed in early 2025.

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Thank you. Do we have any questions for Mrs. New? I just remember going. Okay. ‸ Okay. Thank you, sir. Agency member.

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Um, if I remember correctly and you know the budget, these stuff isn't my favorite. Um, ‸ some of that money is gonna

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Some of that, I

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mean, cause as far as I remember, we didn't have it all this year.

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was gonna ‸ be a multi year project.

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which will be starting in the next couple of months. So

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it's not gonna ‸ roll over into any

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that money will roll over that money, but

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it was not

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gonna ‸ go into any of the money that we're. Oh,

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nice. Okay. Then I only, I have two little things that I would like you to keep in the back of your mind. One of them is

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1st, I would like that little bit of money to

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I know you guys promised me you're gonna.

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And the other thing that I would like to see somewhere in the budget is fixing Candace's light.

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Fix

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Candace's light.

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an electrician in here.

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What's the budget for that? That's where the city clerk sits at. That's the reason why. She

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doesn't want a

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light? She's a stenographer, ma'am. She just does the typing and then the city manager is adjacent to it.

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Yeah,

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have

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a light.

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Here, Candace, you can come over here. Okay.

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Thank you. That was it. Thank you.

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That is thoughtful of you

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anyone else before I entertain a motion. Go ahead, sir.

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So, okay. What do you want from us right now? You

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you dollar amounts or do you want some

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ideas?

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any ideas? Okay. ‸ And some of these things you may have already, I think we kind of discussed, but we still haven't given any direction on, I know one on was the only in the parking lot, um,

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behind, uh, St. Paul next to the oil change place. That was,

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last year? ‸ No, no.

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back a, a number yet, but that definitely be, um, and that includes the parking lot, no matter if it's, uh, asphalt millings, but it needs to be lighting as well included, um, with, with that parking lot, um, along with some signage too. The, uh, cameras and lighting, I think we already discussed that before as well. Um, I don't know how we're doing with the cameras in the village, um, and making sure that our blind spots are taken care of too, as well.

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not finalized yet with the project. Um, but if it is finalized as far as purchasing a lot, it might be very smart for us to allocate some money towards that particular project. So we won't have to wait for 2026. Um, I don't know what that number is either. I was going to say one, but I know construction costs are all over the place right now, but, um, and also increasing our facade grants, uh, amount. I know right now we're at 10,000

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what I'm hearing from a lot of the commercial owners, the signs are getting more expensive. The lighting is more expensive. So we've been 10 grand for a long time, but it doesn't necessarily make the hard, you know, the, the, the,

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ask because the most signs are now 15 grand.

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back an amendment to the, to the goals and objectives for the facade

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that have the actual, uh, the rules for the application and, and ask for you to as a board to increase that so that, and

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for, for the facade grants based on whatever number you give us. So, so I can definitely work on bringing that back, uh, on October probably to get that worked on those numbers and, uh, bring it back to you. But I agree with you, those signs and some other, uh, projects that we've heard about their, their numbers are really high to get some of those projects completed.

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the, um, so Smith lane has some very, some issues too.

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lighting on that street, but they are hitting those lights every single year because they're backing out of department complex and every, I mean, and we have to replace those a lot. Um, that's the,

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We have like four, four lights there and I don't know if we need to change those style or put some sort of a concrete, something around it or I don't know what, I don't know what the answer is to it, but I'll, I know where they're hitting them and we, again, we have to go out and replace them all the time.

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years ago, um, changed that to decorative lighting, uh, for those poles. So that would be a CRA board initiated, uh, change to the type of lighting poles that you are looking for. And if you want us to, to do some research on some, some options, we can always do that and come back to you with those options.

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update

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we're working with the

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on how to still maintain a consistency of the, what you're looking for with the current, uh, decorative lights, but becoming more, um, sturdy in the end.

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lighting is not what it should be. And then they're getting hit all the time.

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down.

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Maybe some sort of a, a different style of lighting.

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Yeah, we can talk with inspire on that and putting it part of our workshops to have that discussion so that they can bring back some different options. They're the experts, ‸ subject matter experts on these types of, um, ideas.

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Okay.

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So,

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as far as the city manager, as far as that affordable housing project, what, I know you can't really tell me a number right now, but what, what in your mind, what does that look like for you?

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Yeah. Remember, um, for us, you, you guys, we are purchasing the property. They delayed the closing of the property.

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forget, uh, how long they delayed the closing.

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an email for an update there. So, I think they delayed the project closing for 60 days there. But again, anticipate that we'll be the landowners and we'll issue an RFP like we have for other property that we've owned for somebody, some developer builder to do an affordable housing project on there.

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on it. Probably not more than four if I remember

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so we'll issue an RFP for someone to acquire the land or to somehow trade the land for an affordable housing project to be built on that.

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so would it be smart for us to now put a number to it now or, or that's something we just, cause I know we,

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already put the money aside for the lot itself.

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Yeah, we, we, you guys have budgeted the acquisition

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And so you, you budgeted that. That'll probably roll over if they continue to, uh, delay the closing there. So, so we've got that. We've gotten the purchase, uh, costs taken care of. Okay. All right. Thank you. I'm good.

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Okay. My list is a little long, but

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to go with the low line fruit first.

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I would like to see us get the clean vessel act, which covers 75 to 80% of the sewer line, which we have the sewer line there. We just don't have the pump. And I can tell you people are pooping in the river. There's no place for it to go.

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men's. It's the men's rooms out in the park. So I would love to see that because this is something that it's an easy grant. They'll even come out and write it up for you.

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you don't understand it. Um, the other thing I would like to see

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Park is consistent, um, enforcement. And part of that reason is when you have a waterfront, you generally have a, a Harbor, uh, building and a Harbor master. Yes. And they look over everything. So they're there for the pump out. They're there for people checking in and out right now. It's, um, it's just whoever wants to go down there. They can do whatever they want. Um, I would like to get some enforcement. Back into the park. It's going to be closed for a year. So we should have time to do a lot of these, uh, you know, things that we're talking about.

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not very good. As I understand it, I'm a

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boat, which I was speaking with the city manager about the sheriff's shared grant, which we could actually get a boat. If we work with Merritt Island to patrol the Indian river. I know we have the coast guard and fish and wildlife, but it takes a lot actually to monitor the river. And we don't even have a really well functioning Marine boat. So if we could get a participate in that grant, I would love it. The other thing would be to, uh, use that same shared grant to maybe purchase some drones so that we can use that when we're having ‸ festivals in the river front park, and they can see other areas with the drones. And it kind of gives you a little better without having to have people

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And that also could be a shared grant. So.

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I think they will help us.

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All we need to do is flip the switch. It's there already. Uh, I would suggest a timer to be put on it. I mean, it's probably been dark.

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did a story on it. Um, and then we had COVID and I think we all just kind of forgot. But I think if we put a timer on it, every time somebody comes over the bridge, they're going to see that. And it's free advertisement. Okay. So, and of course I would like to have, uh,

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go through the park and, and tell us where we could improve because there's lighting, uh, it's very dim at night. So when people are parking and going into Ryan's,

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very dark. It's not safe.

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And they can give us some suggestions. There's a lot of people are hiding up underneath the bridge and

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doing

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nefarious things. And so I don't want to go into that, but I think it's necessary.

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the village, because the camera only tells you what's already happened. Um,

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they can literally talk to you and tell you back away or we're calling the police. So I think just maybe a couple of those in strategic places, I don't know. Okay, so now I'm going to ask for some money because this is really kind of low lying fruit on these other items.

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population as us, about the same ‸ income, and they're doing a eight passenger golf cart service to be used to carry people in and around the city. Well, we're going to have Lee Winter Park closed down, and we have a deficit. So I would

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what they spent for one, I would say probably that

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But in total, it was $64,000 a year. But what they're doing is they're using their county transportation.

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They will be driving the golf cart, and they'll be doing it at certain hours. And

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old 2018 parking study, that there's hours between like 1030 to

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So I would love to have that because you could use that to find out, you know, first of all, it's needed. Nobody wants to walk. I'm sorry.

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It's humid. I'm not walking from the edge of the village to go to a play or a restaurant, not doing it. But if we had the golf cart, that would help. And I think, too, if we ever get our hotel, maybe we do something with them. So we do the trolley and move people around. Of course, this is not for us to decide but for city council. But, you know, since we have such a deficit and we actually still have the same number of street parking as we had five years ago, even though we've been buying, you know, lots and so on and so forth, I would love to put a moratorium on parking variances for at least six months so we could try to get caught up on our parking, get it situated. Now, I think for the Oleander parking lot, I saw something that I published ‸ and somebody suggested that would be a good idea for your parking lot over there. It's a permeable parking lot where you put those connecting pavers. The grass comes up. You can mow over it. It takes the water down. You can collect it underneath so it doesn't puddle. So it solves a lot and it's less expensive. So maybe we might want to look at that until we kind of ‸ get going on our parking.

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that's it for me.

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I have my list if somebody would like it. Yes, please. Okay. That's it. Thank you.

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I mean, these are mostly maintenance items that we're discussing.

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have the projects have to be a part of this updated plan.

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we have to continue to pursue that. And of course, that has the light of day with the public and the public meetings. And so it's a process. Um, so, and I know, you know, we have discussed, of course, the, uh, police boat and the monies that are available through the

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Yeah. District.

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District.

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Yeah.

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Fine. Fine. Fine.

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Yes. So, um, anyway, anyway, if we're going to have a list, I want to have some time to think about that and bring it forward.

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so, uh, that it is, uh, ‸ you know, so that we follow the process and involve as much of the public as possible. That's it.

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The decorative lighting poles are in. So I know, I don't think it'll cost too much to even think about trying to replace all

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of the buildings.

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All of those. Right. But can we enhance or ask the lighting company enhancing that light bulb to a more LED brighter, maybe a brighter ‸ light bulb. If that's possible. They did.

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Yeah.

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All of them. I

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believe so. Okay. I'll check

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public works director, but I believe they were all changed.

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‸ Okay. Thank you.

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Help me understand something.

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So refresh my memory. Um, ‸ Chase bank, they own some of that parking lot, correct? Just to the south of ‸ physical building itself. Correct.

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They own the whole parking lot.

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They own the whole entire parking lot,

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between Orange Street and factory and Brevard and John Garrett.

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Okay. Um, how can I, are they debating or remaining there? Have you heard anything?

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I haven't, I don't know if anyone else has, but I don't believe.

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what I, what I heard, um, was Chase has a long term commitment for that.

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of weeks, maybe a month or so ago about, uh, Chase and their ability to, or their willingness to relocate. I think they have a long term lease. Okay.

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question.

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Thank you.

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Okay. So

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everyone

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submitted their wish list, right? Wish. That's it. That's my list.

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Um, we're on the same team and I just wanted to make sure this ordeal would

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Um, now that we've shared our wish list, um, we need a motion. Is that correct? ‸ This requires ‸ motion or what? Because it is an action item.

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We'll be bringing back the budgetary impact to you at the next meeting.

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then you can vote for that. But that primarily was, we needed your, your thoughts on how to move forward with a proposed budget. Um,

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the proposed budget, which would be the adopted budget would be amended to reflect the contents of the CRA plan update for fiscal year 2025.

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Okay. All right. And then if we need to amend anything, because, uh,

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she would like to, uh, bring her information forward.

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because

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I know for a fact, like in front of Ryan's, we've addressed the flooding area and that's working out, um, as well. And I'm sure a lot of that will be taken care of with the advancement and enhancement of Lee winter park too,

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Okay. All right. So

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Okay. Updates and staff report.

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Yes, sir.

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have a few, uh, reports for tonight. Um, who is trying to be as quick as possible. Um, you all have received the information for the FRA 2024 conference, which is October 22nd through October 25th in Tampa. We do need to have on the record who is planning on attending so that we can update the journal for justification for your attendance. So

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planning on attending this conference, we would need to have that on the record. And then we would come back in September and any other updates. Uh, if we get any who have indicated after tonight's meeting, we would just come back at the next meeting and publicly announce who will be attending that conference. We also have to book hotels and, and make the ‸ reservations as soon as possible before the, the, there's a block of rooms that have been booked for the FRA conference. And

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So I would just need to know tonight if there

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any who are interested in attending the conference. Yes.

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I am.

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So I have.

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State

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your name. So you got it. So, okay. State your name. Make sure she recognizes you.

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So I

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Okay.

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I think it would be very interesting, but I can't take that time off work.

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We'll bring back all the great information.

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Thank

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you. And I'll follow up with

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to find out if he has an interest in attending as well.

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Because I know for a fact we'll be in Tampa for the ‸ National League of cities. As well, ma'am. And I'm just trying to make sure if those dates overlap or I will

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let

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you know.

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But

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it's

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okay.

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Understood. Thank you.

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Yes, ma'am.

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Thank you.

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And in

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the. I'm good.

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If you can just let Ryan know what your desire is for the bus tour. If you would like to take the bus tour. Those are very informative. We always recommend that you attend because

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And

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So it'll be very nice to see what they what they do.

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Intentively speaking, you can put place my name on the list, please.

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Okay. We'll find out which one of the three. There's three different bus tours. So you'll just have to pick one.

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Yes. Yes,

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sir.

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We'll follow up with you this week. Okay.

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As I noted the inspire place making who is doing our C.R.A. plan update. They are working on data collection and and then we're working to schedule the community meetings and the constituent meetings and the website rollout are all in the works coming soon. So you'll be seeing all of that information. But like I said, we will be having multiple community meetings to discuss the C.R.A. plan update and those workshops similar to what we have done in the past will be held within the.

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in September. The

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park for one year

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‸ the workers and the demolition and everything that will be occurring. And we will be rolling out information about the closures and all of that will be coming out very soon.

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and I are working really hard to make sure that we communicate every with everyone what the status is. So we'll be bringing you regular status reports on the progress of ‸ the project, knowing that the first probably three to four months are going to be spent doing demolition. So there will not be much happening. But once the demo has been completed and they begin rolling out the the actual infrastructure part of the project, then you'll start seeing a lot more activity on there.

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which is Monday, August 26 from 830 a.m. to 5

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House. There are RSVP and pricing options on their website.

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We

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you if you haven't already received that information. Our very own Ryan Brown will be presenting ‸ session on the commercial facade improvement program grant. So we'll be bringing out that information to all of the business owners there and and agency member goings with your suggested plans.

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for us to begin rolling something like that out for approval for the September meeting. So look forward to that. That is all I have as far as updates are concerned. If the city manager has any additional updates, which he does not. So we are we have completed our updates. ‸ Okay.

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righty.

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Our next meeting

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Okay.

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a motion to adjourn. What are the wishes of the agency? Motion adjourned.

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member. It's just gonna call

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Glad everyone endured the storm.

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I

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thinking. It is right because it's a Tuesday. It's before council.

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