Let us pray. O gracious and merciful God, here we are once again gathered to conduct the business of your people. We thank you for allowing us to be here tonight, taking on the task that we've been chosen to fulfill. And let our efforts, dear Lord, not be in vain, for we know that in pleasing you is serving your children. We thank you now, and we ask that all we do will be pleasing in our sight. For his sake we pray. Amen.
Amen.
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please, ma'am.
Mayor Blake.
Present ma'am.
Deputy Mayor Goins. Here. Council Member Dial.
Here.
Council Member Hearn. Here. Council Member Koss. Here. City Attorney Garganese. Here.
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Here. Thank you.
Thank you, Madam Clerk. Proceeding on to item
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council? Motion to approve.
Second.
We got a motion on the floor by Councilman Dial
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All in favor,
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aye. Aye. Any nays? Ayes. Have it. Unanimously. Proceeding on to item number 2-2. Mayor's Town Hall meeting on June 15, 2021. Budget workshop held on July 8, 2021. What are the wishes of council?
Motion to approve.
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Second.
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Aye. ‸ Any nays?
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Unanimously. Proceeding on to awards and presentations. Saying none. Yes, ma'am. Thank you.
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particular item. We ask that you state your name and your address or us, please, for the record so our Madam City Clerk can be accurate and detailed ‸ and concise as you can point concerning your issue. First
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The floor is yours. State your name and your address, please.
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If you look at the big screen, there's an intersection.
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Anything south of Peachtree is considered south. So the intersection there is Olive Street. And what I'm asking council, if you could delegate to whoever it may be, look to the east, to our right.
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you'll see a road ‸ that runs to the north off of Olive called Bay.
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but there's no white line. If a white line could be put on the road, I think that might help a little bit in folks heading south on Bay and not stopping there at that intersection. Also, if council would consider,
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consider,
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And the reason I say that, sometimes there's multiple vehicles that ‸ will back up
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It would be kind of courteous for the folks heading south on Bay if that intersection wasn't blocked. I spoke with more than half of the neighbors there on Olive Street. And all were pretty well in agreement of what I'm here tonight suggesting. And one other concern, there
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45. And a lot of times folks don't break enough when
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They'll just shoot right across Olive Street and the speed limit on Olive Street is 15. But my wife just recently had an experience.
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blew through that stop sign
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So it's a safety issue that I see. So if y'all could delegate to whoever to just maybe do a study and see if something ‸ could be done to help that situation right there.
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Thank you all. God bless. Thank you.
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Good evening, Council and fellow citizens. I'm Captain Nate Hooks of 723 Carissa Avenue, Cocoa, Florida, and we find in Isaiah chapter 11, verses 4 and 5, these words. The poor and the needy will be treated with fairness and with justice. We also find in Matthew chapter 7, verse 12,
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also find that God tells us to treat others as we would like to be treated. Tonight, I call upon you as our
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begin a practice and eliminate biases, discrimination, and established practices to revive, correct, replace, and abolish racial biases in the city of Cocoa. As we find in example one, when the city requested the closing of Stone Street, and the closing has direct negative effect on the black community. It has caused extensive harm to families. We also
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that has destroyed more than 50 homes in
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the consent decree area. So we are coming before you, asking that you address those actions of previous councils or administration, because we only have one governing body,
and that is
you. And I'm thankful that Governor DeSantis and the federal government signed executive orders during the COVID. But during that time, council, many of your citizens was forced out of their homes, living in apartment complexes in the consent decree area. That need be addressed as well. Some property owners and contractors violated state law, in my opinion, by evicting residents during that period of time. And as you know, we had protection under the federal moratorium up through last Saturday.
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citizens was
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owners that from their homes and their living quarters. So I call upon you to please address these problems. Thank you so much.
Thank you. Moving
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Good
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of
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am coming before you to ask about the
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that was changed in
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I am also a business owner of home-based business. I am a nail tech and I had an interest in also getting the ordinance changed here in Cocoa where you can have a home-based business out of your home where you can allow your clients to come there. Had I made a decision if I was to move or not to the Cocoa area, I would not be permitted to work out of my home. So I wanted to address that to the city of Cocoa as well. The ordinance was changed back in December, November of 2020 in Titusville where they did allow home-based businesses to have people to come in their homes. Being it beauticians, barbers and nail technicians,
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You guys can read the ordinance. I do have a copy of it. I wanted to ask if you all would not mind putting this on your agenda. I
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city if we can get that also
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I had to do. I'm not sure if you guys how
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So that's why I'm coming and standing before you because we do know that people do have all types of businesses out of their home and they are not legit. And so we did get that changed in Titusville. I am legit and I stand to ask if we can get that
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I said I may want to move here and I do not want to be limited that I can't operate as I should or could if it's not open and available as well in a residential area in
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you take a look at this ordinance that the
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and I'm sure we'd have to go through a process. Yes. And it's not going to happen next Council meeting.
Oh, I understand. Yes, ma'am. I
just
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you. Yes. What I need to see?
She
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to get a copy.
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If I can be.
Yes, sir.
The city attorney myself, Mrs.
Neuterman,
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on that issue today because there's some state legislation that changed also. So we met on that. And actually I think Mrs. Neuderman actually is planning on bringing something back this month.
We're planning on coming to we're going to ‸ planning and zoning meeting August 25th. We have we have a special meeting scheduled for August 25th and then we will have two readings of an ordinance in September. So because of the state legislation that was just past July 1st, we do have to change our ordinance as well. Yes.
So
we're in the process of doing that.
Awesome. Thank you for your time. Thank you.
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He's speaking under the item ‸ in regards to the cottages. Okay.
Okay. I'm only here to answer a
question if one were to come up.
I'm gonna ‸ bring you back. Yes, sir. Thank you.
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D.
E. T. I.
Irv Hernandez. Are you in
the
audience?
Thank you, Mayor. Before my time starts ‸ counting, just a point of question. I have submitted one for my mother to represent her here and also one for myself. Do I have the six minutes or do I have the three?
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D. Marco?
Five minutes.
D.
Combine it together?
D. Yeah, we can. D. Okay. D. Oh, sorry. D. I thought you were addressing me. D.
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your mom, your mother? D. And you're representing, I guess, yourself on the same issue? D. D.
Uh,
it's somewhat related, yes.
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What? So how much time do you need to?
D. Probably more than three minutes. Maybe,
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as a duly authorized representative, he would be able to speak on behalf of his mother. D.
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Mr. Fernandez. D.
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um, uh, I'm here today, uh, on behalf of my
mother.
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City of Cocoa Academy. Uh, and, uh, I do intend to come to city, to the city of Cocoa to reside ‸ and to do both business.
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D. Yes. [address], 627 South Kentucky Avenue. Both of those slots are currently
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They're raw land, which I intend to develop eventually for myself. In the meantime, I had to relocate my mother. Difficult situation in Puerto Rico with COVID and everything
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going on there. She's 91 years old and on February I just decided it was just too unsafe. I need to find a place for her. It was not suitable for me to keep her at home. And she's eligible to purchase a house,
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applied for her. So that we went through the home searching with community housing, serving as a coordinator within the city.
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from the family because her income is too low to afford what's on the market.
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So anyhow, with that advice, we proceed. We found a home, we put a contract, and inspection showed that it needed some repairs. In guidance from the ‸ city, we were told that only general contractors' estimates were going to be allowed for submission. It was very difficult to find any general contractor willing to do this and that type of work. There were some plumbing work, some electrical work, that we could have easily obtained quotes from a plumber, from
electricians,
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with a lot of things in there that you could tell there was a lot of fat there. So that anyhow, I submitted it.
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‸ Based on that estimate, the House was declared unsafe because it took too much money to correct the ‸ issues. So it's a double jeopardy. I appealed the decision. The appeal process was grueling. It's taken very long.
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I did never get a written reply addressing every one of the issues. It was just two issues here, another one there, and to this day, I still don't have a final answer. My understanding from Ms. Neuterman is that this has been ‸ consulted with HUD, and they're awaiting an answer. But that's not what I'm getting back. I mean, in my days as a professional, I made a commitment to myself and to my customers to answer calls, emails in 24 hours. Even if I could not address the issue, I would say, I'll get back to you. This is what's going on. I mean, I think it is a turn off when officials that are getting paid from the
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It is a
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lack of respect, particularly for individuals who are in need of these programs. It makes you feel like you basically are coming here for a ‸ handout. So basically what I'm appealing to you is just we want a fair process. We don't need to ‸ say yes if it is really an issue, but please don't use the process against us. I just heard Mr. May,
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the past. So this is a new day and it's a time for correction. Let's not use ‸ double talk ‸ and a process that could be done to benefit some in a lax way or to be very stringent in another way because I have done that.
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present something that was undefensible, defensible, okay? And I know this is how politics work. So what we're asking for is a fair process. My mother needs a place. This is a good place for her and I just would like the city to be fair with us and give us an answer. Thank you very much and pardon the motions.
Thank you, Mr. Hernandez, sir. Okay,
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Weiss.
Well, when I
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That's right. That is actually the German pronunciation.
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and he wanted me to say hi to you, Mayor Blake. So, yes, you are remembered and your father as well. ‸ Yes. I'm here tonight, Marlene Weiss, [address], to talk about... Okay. The sustainability board met last Thursday.
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We have started our series of speakers on sustainability and we did have the
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Great. Okay. She came and she shared...this woman lived in the city of Cape Canaveral for five years or an extended period of time. She really got a chance to know the city of Cape Canaveral. She really cared about the city. She started as an intern at the city of Cape Canaveral and now she's a senior planner with
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eye for making an impact,
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positive, creatively dealing with future scenarios in terms of everything from having a community center that will be powered by solar,
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it will still be a community center as well as a community center during the good times as well.
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council ‸ to proactively look toward the future. When you see things coming like storm issues and like, you know, we're seeing the economy problems with housing, all of the things that we're facing, and you can get together and you can talk about solutions, it is a great starting point. So, I will be the city, ‸ the sustainability board has decided that we will be reaching out to the public.
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We want to hear you. We want to hear you at length and we want to come up with solutions. But my question tonight, Mr. Mayor, is we would like to know how we can interface with the city council. We would like to know how can we bring our findings to the council. As we're working with citizens, we're coming up with ideas and we would just like to have an idea protocol from city staff and the council as well on how we can best work with you. That's what
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like to do, work with the citizens, work with the staff, work with the council.
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pick up that phone. Collaborate with the various departments. Collaborate with the various staff and council members here and throughout our city manager and his staff and his ideas.
So you're saying through just continue to talk with, share with the ideas.
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on one. Okay. Well, that's wonderful. And we also want to invite you to the meetings because it's a time for us to talk about what is sustainability. What do we want to do? And
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Martinez. Mrs. Jackson.
Good evening, council. My name is
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I'm the
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The program has operated in that location since the late 90s. We're a federally funded program. We serve income eligible families, infants and toddlers, in a high quality early learning setting.
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And we, as a staff, take on lots of really big projects.
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a very large building on Dixon Boulevard. We have painted it ourselves. We painted it ourselves in 2012
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And 2012 is a long time ago and it's time for some paint again. So we were lucky enough to have Mayor Blake stop by and pitch in and help us out on Sunday.
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in the community of Cocoa that we serve, if you could please reach out to any of your contacts or if you have any available time in the next couple of weeks to help us finish our project, we would appreciate all the volunteer help that we could get.
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Could you recite it just one more time?
[phone removed]. And you can ask to speak with Haley Martinez. That's H-E-L-Y Martinez. ‸ We're there every day from 8 to 5, Monday through Friday. And we'll probably be there all this weekend trying to finish up. We were fortunate enough, we've had lots of parents come out, a few policemen from the Cocoa Fire ‸ Police Department and a couple of firemen came out and helped us last weekend. We had several parents and we had a lot, we had a couple of volunteers from Cocoa High who are getting ready to graduate and needed to build up their volunteer hours. So all the help and any of the help we could get, we would appreciate.
Thank you.
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Thank you, Mrs. Jackson. I love the color yellow, ma'am. I'm happy to say I was tying my bun in the Florida sun. Not only did we ‸ paint well, but they fed us too. So how often do you get that? And we have some nice good home cooked meals. Mrs. Martinez did an awesome job.
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with the human race. We'll give you some hours, ma'am, for sure. And I thank you, Mrs. Jackson, for what you all do for our youth.
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Okay. Seeing no additional cards,
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thank you very much. Chair would like to proceed on to the next item, which is the consent agenda item. What are the wishes of Council?
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Second.
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Chair's going to call the question. All in favor and say aye. Aye. Any nays?
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it unanimously. Moving on to City Business. Item number 8-1. Approve the addendum to the security
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Cocoa Village, LLC for the cottage of Cocoa at Cocoa Village and
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Manager to execute the agreement.
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We know for the fact that the city requested that the applicant enter into a security agreement. This is ‸ security agreement and the applicant promises to complete at the expense of all remaining subdivision improvements within one year or less an extension that is granted. For good
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30th, 2022. The applicant requests an additional extension before the six-month period has expired. Mrs. Neutman. Ma'am.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. As you indicated tonight, in October of 2019, the city council did approve the security agreement between the city and the villas of Cocoa Village for the cottages. And
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final plat and approval of such plat to be subject to the subdivider, guaranteeing the installation of those improvements. The unfinished improvements, as you noted, generally consist of paving the roads, completing concrete work, curbing, and installing landscaping. The applicant has filed a security bond in the amount of 110% of the construction cost estimated of the unfinished portion of the required improvements and depositing a check in the amount of that 110%. So, as you noted, the applicant did file a request for an extension. Through April 30th, staff recommends a six-month extension, approximately six-month extension, through the end of January of 2022.
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And noting that the applicant can come back prior to the expiration date and request another extension if necessary. Any other questions I can be available to ask, plus the applicant, Mr. Dietz, is in the audience. Thank you.
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then to the security agreement with the bill of the Cocoa Village, LLC, for the cottages at Cocoa Village and authorize the city manager to execute the
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I'll second the motion.
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Okay. Proceeding on to the next item. Item 8-2. Approve the preliminary assessment resolution for number 2021-071 for the fire protection for the fiscal year 2022.
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agreed into this preliminary resolution that was brought to my attention. And traditionally, it's been a 3% overall, and that's been fundamentally what we agreed ‸ upon. ‸ Finance director, Mrs. Howell, ma'am, would you expound on this one for us,
please?
Yes. As you mentioned, this is the preliminary assessment resolution for fire protection.
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is 44% of the fire department's budget. This is, again, the preliminary assessment resolution. The final assessment resolution will come before council September 14th as
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Motion to approve. We have a motion on the floor by Councilman Hearn. Second.
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All in favor by saying aye.
Aye.
Any nays? Ayes have it unanimously. Proceeding on to the last and final agenda item on the city business.
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Approve
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For stormwater utility service fiscal year 2022.
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And it will come back as Mrs.
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stated in September, if I'm not mistaken.
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would you like to expound on this for us, please?
That is correct, Mayor.
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But with our rate consultants this year, it was determined 4.5% is sufficient to cover the needs for that fund, for the stormwater fund.
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by the assessment. And the final hearing will also come before council the same night as
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Thank you, Mrs. Howell, ma'am. What are the wishes of council? Motion to approve. We have a motion on the floor by Councilman Hearn.
Second.
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All in favor by saying aye.
Aye.
Any nays? Ayes have it. Unanimous.
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Going once. Going twice. City manager and administration. Sir.
Mr. Mayor,
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Thank you, sir.
The moment you've all been waiting for, I'm sure. So I'll make this quick. Currently, we have reported 55,378 positive COVID cases in Brevard County. On a seven-day average, we're seeing 550 new COVID cases come up. So
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COVID cases. The overall
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We're up to 914 deaths in Brevard County at this point. So I pretty much have been trying to keep these pretty brief on where we're at with the COVID cases, but certainly everybody's been watching the news and kind of where we're at.
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We have seen the largest spike in numbers since this started within the last two months of where our numbers are at. So as Andy brought up at our last council meeting, the hospitals are certainly seeing it the worst right now with the number of admissions they're ‸ having on positive COVID cases. Looking at it this afternoon, they're still up over 200% in admissions with positive COVID cases. So that's kind of where we're at with COVID. To kind of switch gears just a little bit, I want to bring you up to date on where we're at with our
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It's going to be moving over toward the west coast of Florida. It's currently located in the eastern Caribbean with a 90% chance of tropical development.
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o'clock tomorrow morning. So we'll know probably a little better in the morning what it's going to develop into. The system will continue to encounter dry air and wind shear as it moves through the Caribbean over the next three or four days. So it's really hard to estimate what that storm force is going to look like by the time it gets over on the west coast. But ‸ significantly, Florida will see some impact. I'm not a meteorologist. I'm just a dumb fire chief. But I'm pretty sure we're going to see a lot of rain.
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But I have a feeling that's going to be the most significant part of what we see. Maybe some wind gusts, but a lot of rain. So we'll certainly be working with our public works department to ensure storm drains are open
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everything as we go into the weekend. But
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So we'll keep you up to date on where we are. And that's all I have, sir.
Chief.
Yes, sir.
I know we have Abigail here, too. I'm asking to you both.
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there's a little critter that flies, man. You know what I'm saying?
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And they are very, very, as we say in the country,
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the man. We have any questions for Chief Lamb, Council members? Okay, seeing none, Mr. City Manager, sir, anything else you want to add before we proceed on? ‸ Thank you, Super City Manager. Next, Super City Attorney Anthony.
‸ Just two things to report on, Mayor. Two cases involving the City Council. First, in the case Sinclair
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City of Coco, former Mayor
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District Court of Appeal, affirmed the trial court and ruled in the city
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other defendants' favor. So that was good news that we ‸ received today from the court. In the other case, the bill is
a cocoa versus
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City of Cocoa. As ‸ you know, we had a setback in that case that the trial court issued a temporary injunction. My intentions are to continue to defend the actions taken by the City Council to terminate negotiations and to file an appeal unless there are any objections on the Council at this time.
No objection come from the Mayor. Anyone else? No objection.
District
1, move forward.
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We still have 179 more days of school left. I know the parents are tickled pink to have their children go back to school,
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be extremely aware of their surroundings. I just want to make sure that all flashing lights are working because when I went to work this morning, there was a couple of them that was not ‸ at work or in operation. So
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when you're traveling on the major highways and throughout the byways of the great city of Cocoa, please pay close attention of your surroundings. Okay, that's been brought to my attention. We're doing evens today.
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Okay. Well, Marlene, thank you for speaking on behalf of the Sustainability Committee.
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member our schedule of speakers for the next couple of months. So those are also in the little foyer there before you come into the meeting hall. ‸ Yeah, the presentation by City of Cape Canaveral was interesting. I think the big takeaway for me was that the most crucial person for them to bring on board in regard to sustainability resiliency issues. And where they've really started to make momentum, build momentum,
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and in several instances, it was just a no-brainer. And so they just started to, through that lens, create change within the city. There's also an informational item that came up, only because I was looking at their website and saw that they are doing wastewater COVID testing. Now,
a
couple of months ago, they took up with their, evidently, were a couple of laboratories. I had mentioned it in May.
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virus in the city
in
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the community. And so they're using that to educate residents, to get them to be more cautious. So I'm hoping that, you know, we can look into that as well. In fact, their funding for that ended, but it was so inexpensive ‸ that they decided to keep it up since there are spikes. And it's really interesting if you go online on their website and you see, you can see exactly where they are COVID-wise. So I hope that we can look into that. I had sent the city manager an email last week. I also wanted to,
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Stone Street was brought to my attention by... I was looking over a 10-year plan
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Planning Organization.
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Street, it really kind of messed up their plan, because they were using that as a kind of a byway when there's traffic on 520 and US-1 to get people around. So from a public safety standpoint, they were disappointed when that closed as well. I don't understand all the circumstances behind that. But I do have concerns, particularly with the train coming, because even if you look at Google Maps, you can see that there are footpaths through Stone Street. So a lot of people still cross through that area. And of course, it's not a street. There aren't going to be any guards there. So I understand that there's a lot of history around Stone Street as well.
So
I share your feelings in terms of losing it. But anyway, I don't know if there's an opportunity for us to talk about that, but I would like to see it. And that's all for my report.
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All right. So the month of August has just kicked off, and the council has been pretty busy. Last night, the mayor and I, we had the opportunity to attend the Space Coast League of Cities meeting slash dinner. You know, I would like for us to give a round of applause for the young lady, second,
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Her name is Miss Cynthia Doak. She came out. She's from Endeavor. She came out and spoke last night on a program that they're doing out there that's helping a lot of children and families within the
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So there's great works being done there. We also received news that Endeavor will have a new principal as well. So I will hope that all the council make themselves available to meet with the principal and see how we as a city can further assist that school and really get them up to
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Also, we had the park dedication ‸ to Mr. Jim Wallen, former city council member, school teacher, and a host of a lot of accomplishments within this community. So it was an honor to be able to attend that and participate. We also, that same day, we had the
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And ‸ that was a good event to attend. We also had the PD out there as well,
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good, get out, mingle with the citizens, and also help those families, help fill that void.
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we're making great strides in filling those voids in the community where families are in need.
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I think we're on that trajectory to doing better. It's always good when the citizens in the community can relay
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needs of the community, such as this gentleman here. We are listening. Mr. Hernandez, we are listening. We are taking notes. Anywhere the city can assist in those issues, I think we're making strides there. So I want to thank you for coming up and sharing your issues with us. Another thing, the
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we do have water, a lot of rain water, storm water that will be coming here. I would like to advise citizens. I know particularly in my neighborhood district
to us
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I ride around a lot, and sometimes I see some of the storm water drains are clogged with debris ‸ from citizens putting shrubs or whatever debris on the side of the road. So
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make sure your storm drains if they're in front of your yard. Make sure you don't have anything that's blocking access for storm water to drain, and
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keep the streets dry. Also, I would like to give a big kudos to the mayor. I don't know if you are aware of it, but there's a photo floating on social media of you last night. Yes, so I think there was ‸ maybe a car accident or something. Oh! Yeah. And you were out there. They have you
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So I just want to give a big kudos to you.
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the fire department to clean up the debris, but you were out there. Yeah!
Yeah!
Thank you! No problem.
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Appreciate that.
Appreciate
that. Yes, sir.
This is everyone
else behind this advance and throughout this community here.
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So I'm not going to keep you too long, but I don't want to go
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and the crossing guards. It's out there. I drove around this morning taking my kids to school, and I saw them out bright and early doing their duty, which is much appreciated. So as the mayor said, please watch your speeds, watch out for our children, and let's be safe and keep this year improving. So thank you.
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Yeah, go ahead, man. Yeah. Thank you. ‸ Yeah, I'm telling you. That's what I meant. I had my little scud-ass t-shirt on. Why?
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Anyway. Yes, sir. Thank you, Councilman Hearn.
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Oh, great. Okay. All right. That's District 2 and 4, 4 and 2. Now we will proceed to District 3 and 1. Councilman Dyer, sir.
I got two things.
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have the walk around Westminster, parapet, and around the back neighborhood here. We'll be meeting at Archer in parapet, the lemonade stand will be down there. And you'll be able to park in some of the straightaways and stuff. There'll be plenty of room to park. The staff and all that, I told them just park in my yard. So we got that covered.
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‸ there. And he's been really great to work with.
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my district hall meeting. I hope everybody comes out. It's going to be a great time.
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the District 3 people. They did it for 10 years with Mr. Bovee sitting out there.
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And that's about all I have.
Okay.
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I would like to also say you hit the nail
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the VCOPS as well. And they were ‸ at the ‸ book bag giveaway as well. You're absolutely right, sir.
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VCOPS. Yes. I'm trying to think of that gentleman's name.
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Yes, you did. So you should brag about it as you can and why you can. You're absolutely right.
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heart,
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Why? Because I reside in and at District
one.
Sir.
Thank you, sir.
Yes, sir.
The first thing I had
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bag giveaway. I mean, I think sometimes we just do things that we may not realize how much it really impacts people. We don't know people's financial situations, so there was a lot of people really, really happy that the city stepped up. And I think we ran out of well over 150 book bags in less than maybe an hour, 15 minutes. So I'll let you know there is a need because most people, when you have it, you don't come get free ‸ anything. So we ‸ really appreciate staff and CPD for stepping up. Next thing I had was for Mr. Garganese. ‸ I want to ask you about this process. I've been bringing up the code changes of potentially, or at least a conversation on the agenda. ‸ What do I need to do to get that on the agenda to discuss potential code changes? Because we had two items that
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and also fencing in vacant lots that have been coming up maybe the last year or so. ‸ What can I do? Is that something I make a motion on to put it on the agenda?
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is that, I mean, what?
Yeah,
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So the council can discuss it. So, I mean, the council could vote tonight to put it on the agenda. I mean, I think, but I can't recall whether or not there was. I think it was a
conversation, not really a direction. I think that's on me on that.
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I mean, it's just something that would, code changes require ordinances, code changes require policy discussions by the council. So, you know, whenever you want to do something like that, my recommendation would be to agenda it so all the council members have all of the information. So, you know,
you
can ‸ work with the manager to put ‸ together your item ‸ and let the council decide how they want to proceed.
Well, ‸ I would like for those two changes, I know those are the two hot topics. I know, and I ask council as well to look at different changes they might want to look into or things that they've seen in their own districts. But if the council ‸ doesn't have anything to add to it, but I know those two things I believe that we needed to discuss because those things have been affected, definitely in my district. So, the first one was the fencing and vacant lots and the second one was parking on the grass. I would like to bring that back to be on a future agenda, next agenda if possible.
That's
kind of quick. City
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Well, I've talked about this for almost a year.
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I've talked about this two months ago. So, each time we're talking about stuff that ‸ I think we all were aware of what I'm discussing. We'll just
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road. That's my only thing. I think he understands. He's aware. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. And you all have that conversation. Yes, sir.
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This next thing for Ms. Abigail, what's really, really helping our district is keep pumping down Bracco Pond. I implore you to keep continuing that process because, I mean, it's really, really helping. ‸ Definitely around Washington Street,
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cars. So, we appreciate public work for keeping that process going. Thank you for that.
Chief Lamb, as far as COVID dealing with, because before I even bring this up, I want to ask you about it. Dealing with pool access and COVID, pools and COVID,
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Bring
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But, again, it goes back to the CDC guidance, social distancing, all those things. I mean, call a spade a spade.
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That's how the spread starts.
Makes
sense.
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CDC guidance.
Okay. The only reason I even brought
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I do know our COVID cases have gone up, so that's why I wanted to ask that question before I even have this conversation. But I just wanted the council to know there's a lot of people that are really upset about not being able
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And I do know we have a heated pool now. So maybe once COVID goes down, even if it's in November, I really would like to have a conversation about giving free access to those children in that area once COVID is back, hopefully, away. So I just wanted to bring that up. Thank you. I'm done, sir.
Okay. Thank
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It's a pleasure to see you being environmentally astute with your motorized bike there. No
pictures. You're
not using
the fossil fuels in the environment, sir. You're moving at warp speed. So I commend you. All right.
All
right. Two things coming from me. I'm going
to
surrender one of my comments and turn it over to Councilman Hearn. Go ahead, sir.
Yes. Thank you for letting me come back. I didn't want to leave tonight without giving
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And there's a gentleman in the community named Mr. Sam who gave out a free ‸ haircut event yesterday.
I
was able to attend ‸ and see a lot of kids came out, got free haircuts. I can say it's always great when citizens in the community also step up and help fill some of those voids. So I wanted to give a shout out to him. Is it Mr. Sam Newton? And Legends Barber Shop, which is off at 1218
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So thank you to those gentlemen who put on that event. Also, at the Space Coast League of Cities,
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committee where they would take each city within Brevard would nominate one member to attend
these
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seminars and meetings on stormwater.
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So I wanted to bring that forth.
I
know
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And ‸ I can get you further information on it, but if you're willing to take that position, I think you would be the best fit for it. So with council permission. Thank you. Of course. That's all I had. Okay.
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and sweet. All right. Everyone stole the thunder, which is great, man. ‸ Want to
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Did a phenomenal job at the PALS graduation. ‸ Told
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story. And that was quite interesting. We
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Council members were there. Also want to give a shout out. Talking about Councilman Hearn, the stormwater group. I worked with them. I worked
with them. Starting
with Chris, Jeff, James, Jonathan, and Robert, and Nick. We were draining some of those stormwater drains right there in District Number Two. Also was pouring concrete and sidewalks in District Number Four.
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And
I was devastated by that little bull called the mosquito, man. Because when they look at me, I know they think it's buffet style. Come on.
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On to a little more serious note. Again, to the guys from the stormwater group, I appreciate you and the thank you. And I took them out to lunch that same day on my dime. So, hey, man, I love the
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The Space Coast League of Cities annual holiday dinner.
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we host the Space Coast League of Cities annual holiday dinner every December.
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And I'm asking you all to consider canceling that because of the rise number of cases in this area. I'm meeting your support with the recent rising cases of COVID. We've talked with the fire chief. I've spoken with the city clerk about this event, including myself. I'm on board with this, with not having this event. I'm just asking that we prolong it.
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what? Super
spread of this virus.
Thank
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You all know what I'm talking about. Super spread of this virus. So I'm asking council. I need your decision. It's your consensus. Whether or not do you want to host this event?
Can we give it a few 30, 45 days to see what the numbers are and then make the decision?
Well, the problem we come in contact with, sir, is this. You got to prepare the food, the amount of time to get things squared away, the amount of time for us to secure a license to have adult beverages or even just free beverages at that. There. And I just feel compassionate about it. This is just Michael.
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80-plus-year-old man, my father. And I just would feel better if we just wait. I mean, we're not upset anything. Like I said,
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of the virus. Point blank. But it's up to you all.
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And I will hit your light, Councilman Dow, and I will recognize you.
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Yeah, I was going to say that, well, I appreciate your concern. Is four months, is that the point where we have to make the decision? Because from everything I've heard, this spike could actually be going down. No?
‸ No, ma'am. Actually, that's the exact opposite. What is going down is still the number of vaccinations, but the number of cases are dramatically on the uprise, especially here in our county.
Okay. Most of this group, I think, is vaccinated. So even within the vaccinated groups, I know we still have cases just not as severe.
You're correct. The problem lies within, and this is one of the things that we're trying to educate a lot of people on, is while you may be vaccinated, there may be 14 other people there who have not been vaccinated. You could be asymptomatic carrying the Delta virus, pass that virus on to the ‸ non-vaccinated individual, which could end in death.
Okay. Okay. Well, let me just throw out one other possibility, just thinking outside the box.
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In
December?
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I'm just saying. I'm just, okay, ma'am, I'm listening to you.
So that's just a consideration, but, okay, being outside. I mean, everybody got together for dinner last night, didn't they?
Yes, ma'am, but there was a lot of reservations.
There was
a lot of people there with their mask on, and a lot of people left early. Okay. I'd rather be straight to the point ‸ for a multitude of reasons. And also, we have to take it and consider that, you know, the city clerk has deadlines to meet for planning this event.
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They went virtual. They're all, a lot of companies
were
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right now and businesses are saying, I'd rather go virtual right now because of with the spike.
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And that's just my assessment. Okay. We'll proceed in this order.
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like to, you know, at least give it to the next meeting to make this decision. At least, you know, two weeks and see what the numbers are doing because you're looking at four months away. Anything can happen. ‸ You know, it's, I have my theory about everything, but ‸ I think we're making the decision. You know, we did the 4th of July and it worked out great. And I don't think we had any spikes after that, did we, Chief? After the 4th?
‸ I
mean, I...
Yeah, so again, you have to remember, not all those residents were from the city of Cocoa or from Brevard County. So those numbers are going to show up everywhere. If you go back and look at an incubation period of anywhere between two to five days before you start seeing symptoms, that's about the two-week timeframe after the 4th of July, we saw significant spikes in July of COVID-positive cases within Brevard County.
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No,
no, just tell the truth and shame and tell the truth.
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Mr. Mayor,
just...
So I think I
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I think that was like maybe about five or six months ago. And if that's not what the council wants, I think instead of us canceling, we might be able to switch with another city, and
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the middle, like a, you know, March, April, whatever. Instead of us just giving it up completely, we just rotate it with somebody. I think that could possibly be a... Instead of canceling that business meeting, that could be an option.
Sometimes we have to make this tough decision. And I'm ready to make this tough decision. I'm just looking at...
But could that be something on the table to rotate with somebody else?
Maybe the city clerk and chief of police can negotiate with that, but to me, I'd
rather
just wait until next year. I'm just...
We
just... All I'm just saying, ‸ the number of people we know just right now,
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Center, Medical Center, ‸ was just telling you, they were shutting things down. They're not even doing surgeries anymore unless it's desperately needed. They're building up. They're ramping up.
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If you take a patient to the hospital, what happens?
They're probably going to hold the wall or be in the waiting room.
So why gamble? That's all I'm just saying. I'd rather just tell them and let them know up front. That's all I'm saying.
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they're all...
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the things he stated about what's going on and how they're preparing right now for this?
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unless it's God-awful necessary.
So all of our hospitals in Brevard County, including a lot of the ones in Orange County, are on what they call a code red status at this point. They went back to the protective measures that were put in place early on last year in March of how they allow people to come in, what precautions they use, but now they have turned to all elective surgeries are being pushed off.
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If that does not happen, then those surgeries are not being partaken or they're not being done in the hospitals. Just to go on another note, and certainly Councilman Hearn knows this, but for the past three weeks, all of our hospitals have been
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divert status. I get the updates almost hourly for what hospitals go on divert. What that means is they are not taking any more patients because they are completely at capacity. So unless they're a critical patient, as in a trauma alert patient, they are being diverted to another hospital. If that hospital is on a divert, they are being diverted to another hospital and sometimes outside of Brevard County just to get them treated. So our hospitals are at capacity. Andy told us that when he met with us. That was over two weeks ago now. And the status has not changed with them. Just to give you a different aspect from the state side of it, if you're not aware, I certainly represent our area for our region on the local emergency planning council arm, our training task force chair. The state of Florida has said we will not go back to in-person meetings. All of our state meetings are virtual meetings. The next one that they are looking at
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because of the rise of cases, and they do not want to put people in harm's way, vaccinated or non-vaccinated.
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What are the wishes of council?
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for the month of December. I'm not
in
favor. Well, one more question, too. Just a general question. So are we not going to be attending any more as a council to any of the League of Cities dinners moving forward?
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we're counseling hours, which is fine if that's what a council wants, because of potentially being a part of a super spreader, should we, as a council, also decide not to go to dinner as well?
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I mean, I've done the meetings here multiple times virtually. Multiple times. And as these numbers continue to increase, I know I hear from my father when I go to his house. So I don't mind attending the meeting virtually.
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I got you.
It's tough.
it's
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a tough decision. I get it. Trust me. I'm just looking at the numbers. I'm looking at it from a scientific perspective. And it's up to you. At the
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just recovered from his illness with this. And he stated in the meeting, he said,
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Disregard what everyone else is saying. That's,
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I'm not in favor. ‸ So it's up to you all on how you want to do it. I'm just giving consensus of you all. Are you in favor of counseling? Yes or no? That's all I want to hear.
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Okay.
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calls.
I'm just hoping we... We could wait until the next meeting. I mean, maybe it doesn't make any difference.
but...
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Can I get a yes or no? You say no?
Well... I would like to delay the decision at least until the next meeting.
I'm fine with that. Okay. So what are
you
saying? Delay it? Delay
it.
So you're saying delay it? Yes, sir. Okay. What
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I would love to rotate
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I don't think two weeks would matter
right
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Conversation. But I think the
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back to them and say, hey, look, our council would really like to cancel it. Could we possibly switch with somebody else in May 22? And whoever in May 22, they just do
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All
right.
Well,
and just a point of clarification, they're not going to... I mean, they would still have the December meeting.
It
would just be virtually. Oh, it
would
be virtually. Yeah,
it would be virtually.
Okay.
Okay. Point taken.
Yeah. They would still host it. Like they have been.
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They gave each city the option to choose when they went back to in-person meetings if we wanted to have the meeting or not.
‸ Okay.
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‸ So there is an opportunity. So it won't be canceled technically. We can still do it by Zoom.
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can confirm that, but
yes. Yeah.
Yeah, I would like to know that answer.
All right.
So
it's delayed to the ‸ next
council meeting.
Yeah. If we can do a Zoom,
out on which
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you 100%. Okay.
I wish I found that.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right.
All right.
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Sorry about that.
Somebody say something.
Okay, thank you.
All right. It is now
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We are going. Oh, one more thing. Mr. Beach. Could you please place this young lady's picture on the board? Let me get her name right. Laura. Laura. Yes.
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Okay.
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get her name right.
She was the recent recipient winner of winning this pageant in Las Vegas.
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Something to that effect. And I just wanted to recognize her as well. And we just recently lost one of our former CRA members, Jan Stewart, who I had the opportunity to work with a number of years. So we wanted to send her and her family and her loved ones a special blessing to them and prayers to her family. So I thank you very much.
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Motion to adjourn. We have a motion
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Yay.