City Council

City Council Regular Meeting

Date
2024-08-13
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #595
Built from the City's minutes records — no AI-written text Briefing final

The City's record

What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (722_CC_Reg_Minutes_08_13_2024.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines.)
  • Absences: the minutes print an “ABSENT” heading with no names under it.
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Anthony A. Garganese (City Attorney), Stockton Whitten (City Manager), Monica Arsenault (City Clerk), Abigail Morgan (Public Works Director), Rebecca Bowman (Finance Director), Charlene Neuterman (Community Services Director), Samantha Senger (Communications and Economic Development Director), Evander Collier IV (Police Chief), Jack Walsh (Utilities Director), Tammy Gemmati (Administrative Services Director), Robert Beach (Chief Technology Officer), Megan Crutcher (Help Desk Support Tech), Luci Ribeiro (Planner), Jennifer Webster (Senior Planner)
  • Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Mike Blake (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (16)

  • 1. Agenda: Regular Meeting of August 13, 2024. (24-460) — to approve the agenda for the Regular meeting of August 13, 2024 with an amendment to add Council Business Item VII.3, to discuss direction regarding security for Recreation Partner events and games (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 3
  • 2. Minutes: (a) Special City Council Meeting Minutes of June 4, 2024 (24-459) — to approve the minutes for the Special City Council meeting of June 4, 2024 as written (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 3
  • to approve the Consent agenda (moved by Lavander Hearn, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 4
  • 1. Approve the second reading of Ordinance 10 -2024 providing for the Cocoa Ad Valorem Tax Abatement Program Extension to appear on the refe — to approve Ordinance 10-2024 on Second and Final Reading (moved by Lavander Hearn, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 5
  • 2. Consideration of a Preliminary Planned Unit Development (PUD) consistent with Appendix A, Zoning, Article XI, Section 17, for a 61 -lot s — to approve the item (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 6
  • 3. Approve Ordinance 12 -2024 amending Appendix A, Article XI, Section 3, of the code of the City of Cocoa to create new minimum yard requir — to approve Ordinance No. 12-2024 on First Reading (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 6; the vote on p. 7
  • 4. Request to postpone to the City Council meeting scheduled for August 27, 2024 consideration of an appeal regarding the City of Cocoa Boar — to postpone the item to the August 27, 2024 Regular City Council meeting beginning at 6pm at Cocoa City Hall, 65 Stone St., Cocoa, FL (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 7
  • 1. Request for Special Funding for Land. (24-466) — to table the request to a future date so staff can look into the EEL program process and grant funding, as well as bring more information back on wetland mitigation banks to see if that is something that is feasible for the City of Cocoa (moved by Lavander Hearn, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 8
  • 2. Sponsorship of the Space Coast Black Chamber of Commerce Annual Gala. (24-467) — to sponsor a table at the Space Coast Black Chamber of Commerce Annual Gala on August 24, 2024 in the amount of $1,500 Page 8 Deputy Mayor Hearn added that an annual membership will be included for the City with the sponsorship (moved by Lavander Hearn, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 3-1; ayes: Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: Mike Blake — the City's minutes, p. 8; the vote on p. 9
  • to direct the City Manager to reach out to Brevard County to request that the Recreation Partner Agreement be amended to require law enforcement at the Recreation Partner events/games ; request that an indemnity provision for the City of Cocoa be added in the amendment; add and include the City of … (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 9; the vote on p. 10
  • 1. Approve a Resolution to accept Stantec’s FY2024 Water/Sewer Utility Revenue Sufficiency Report, validating the reduction of the automatic — to approve the item (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 10
  • 2. Approve the Preliminary Assessment Resolution 2024-071 for Fire Protection, for Fiscal Year 2025. (24-414) — to approve the item (moved by Lavander Hearn, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 10
  • 3. Approve the Preliminary Assessment Resolution 2024 -072 for Stormwater Utility Services, Fiscal Year 2025, and to Accept our Financial Co — to approve Resolution 2024-072 (moved by Lavander Hearn, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 10; the vote on p. 11
  • 4. Four Corners Visioning Update. (24-457) — to direct RVi and staff to move forward with all five proposed recommendations , for discussion (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 11
  • 5. Approve Resolution 2024 -077 adopting a revised fee schedule for planning and zoning lot split applications and Community Development Dis — to approve Resolution 2024-077 (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 11; the vote on p. 12
  • to adjourn the Regular meeting of August 13, 2024 (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 13

Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)

  • $1,500 — Council: decided in an adopted motion. “sponsor a table at the Space Coast Black Chamber of Commerce Annual Gala on August 24, 2024 in the amount of $1,500 Page 8 Deputy Mayor Hearn added that an annual membership will be included for the City with the sponsorship” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (722_CC_Reg_Minutes_08_13_2024.pdf, p. 8; the vote on p. 9); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $13,380 — Council: Consent agenda item 4, approved with the Consent agenda. “Approve a Resolution Amending the FY24 Budget (BAF#: 24 -113-IFT1-3) to Transfer Investment Interest ($13,380) from the ARPA Fund and to correct two Interfund Transfer Amounts.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (722_CC_Reg_Minutes_08_13_2024.pdf, p. 4); fiscal period not recorded)

Agenda (the City's wording)

The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (CC_Reg_Packet_08_13_2024), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.


Transcript Partial transcript

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our pleasure
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by roll call. With everyone, including myself,
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your cell phones and pay booth, etc.
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right,
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I'd like to give thanks for allowing us all to arrive here at beautiful Cocoa City Hall tonight safely. I'd like to give thanks for watching over us as we just endeavor these recent storms.
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this storm or the effects from the storm. Continue to watch over our city and let us prosper. In the name of Jesus, amen. Amen.
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pledge allegiance to
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God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Madam Clerk, may we do roll call, please, ma'am.
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Yes, sir.
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that is being brought forth by councilman Goins. So I think this should go on. Is that city business? Is that my? Yes.
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the agenda to reflect on the city council, sorry, ma'am, and sirs, city council agenda item, and it will be item number three,
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no,
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six. Seven, three.
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Okay. It will be item number seven, three. Yes, ma'am. Okay. Cool. All right. Now I'm looking for a second.
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Second.
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I have a second on the floor to amend the
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this particular item to be added to the agenda.
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say by saying aye. Aye. And then nays. Aye as heaven. Aye as
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heaven unanimously.
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With the wishes of council.
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Chair's more public question. All in favor saying aye. Aye. Any nays.
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Thank you very much. Proceeding
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Great Florida Space Coast, Miss Angela Neal.
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Hi. Thank you guys for having me here today and letting me be part of this, the council meeting today. I'm here on behalf of the Economic Development Commission of Florida Space Coast to share the unified brand that was developed and launched. This past January.
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so you can see the logo and tagline here.
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Okay. There we go. So a little bit of background. This was two years in the making and about one year ago I came to the city council to share with you guys the progress and how we were getting feedback and how you can contribute to that feedback. And so it's really exciting to have full circle and be able to share the brand with you today.
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did take two years to from the well not ‸ the idea came multiple years even before that. But from the time that we started to put the
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on the paper and how we're planning this out to execution. It was two years. We had over 3,000 participants in the brand and so that was between internal stakeholders throughout Brevard County. The municipalities. There were a lot of the professional organizations businesses and then in addition we reached outside ‸ of the county and across the United States actually to do surveys. And then also two focus groups or four focus groups in two different areas. That was Raleigh, North Carolina and Houston, Texas.
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to ensure that we were understanding the internal feedback from our community to make sure it represented who we were and had everybody's voice in it. In addition to understanding the external community and what they thought we were and where there's opportunities for improvement and ways that we could really position ourselves as a community the way that we would like. So a little bit about the brand. And so whenever you look
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trademark and that's a piece of the brand. There's a brand story. There's messaging. There's a color palette. And at the end there's actually going to be a QR code where you can go there and access and download the brand guide. And our goal for and the reason we want to involve the community is we would love to see this brand as a
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so we could use this brand side by side with all the municipalities with Brevard County's brand, but also all the business entities where we all rise together and can flourish and prosper and just really show that unified voice and do well as a whole. So this tomorrow launches here is the tagline and it means
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And no matter which ‸ direction humanity heads next know that its launch pad is Florida Space Coast. We also have some additional taglines that you can utilize like push what's possible or pursue what's next. So depending on what your business is or what you do, you might find some other taglines that could be beneficial in helping to position your business. This is the color palette and I won't go into a lot of detail there just to be cognizant of the time. But this is again on the website that you'll have access ‸ to if you do the QR code. This is the icon and as you can see, it's three different contrails, one going up like the rocket contrail and then also the sunrise and sunset.
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then we also have the green at the bottom that's representative of the green space and nature in this area. It was extremely important for us to recognize and appreciate nature in this brand because we want to attract businesses and people that attracted. They respect nature the same way that we do.
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And that's what that purple is representative of.
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You can see a lot of different shapes in here if you really look at it. It's kind of like ‸ the modern day Picasso of Florida's Space Coast. So this is the brand altogether. And next I'm going to show you guys a short video. And if you listen to the video very carefully, that's actually our brand story. And everything that's in this video was what we heard from the community. All the footage is from the community. It's local footage. But everything that you'll see in it is what the community told us throughout those two years. And everything you'll hear through the story is also that. So I hope that when you hear it, you'll think, I did say that or that was what we said or that's what we think. And so I'll go ahead and share that with you now.
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PDF. So there's not a video here. So this is the beautiful sunset that you will find in the video. But this video will be accessible to you if you...
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it's on YouTube. And so if you look
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But in addition, you will have access to it whenever you... Maybe that's another reason to fill out ‸ the little form and get all the access to the brand guide. But you'll have access to the video. You can share that out. I am disappointed that we weren't able to share it. But it's a beautiful brand story. And you'll be able to see that and read it ‸ whenever you go. So some of our caught in the wild people wearing... You'll see the lapel pins.
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You can put it on signage. So we are not saying no to anyone putting that logo and icon anywhere. That ‸ helps to represent their business and
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to represent our community. And this is, again... We had 1,500 pins distributed. This was back maybe at the beginning of July. So there have been a lot more as well. And so you'll see people in the community. And we can also give you some if you stop by the EDC or
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And then
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or if you go on their website, you can look at the issue. We had
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about how you can position this area
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a great place to live, work, and play. You'll see billboards throughout the community.
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And, again, you'll see the ‸ icons and the fonts and everything that's in line with the brand. These are some digital display ads you'll find on Florida today. We also have blogs that you
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participate in that we will publish in Space Coast Daily. And so we're accepting community writers. And so that's a way for you to not only amplify the brand but also what's important to you
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the community. And then this is the ‸ QR code that I've been promising you guys this whole time where you can view the video and then download any of the other brand assets available. And that is all I have. Do you guys have any questions?
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We had an excellent
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there in representation
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Thank you. Thank you. And it is a community brand. And I think it's a great way to ‸ bring the community together. And so this isn't an EDC brand. ‸ They're executors of pulling it together, but it's a community brand. So thank you for that.
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Yes, even Senator,
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recognized him on our
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Oh, excellent.
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We will proceed in this order, please.
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And then Deputy Mayor
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Hunt.
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Hello, Angela.
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I know we were going to do a series of ads in professional publications. Do you know what any of those are offhand?
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So right now we also have, which I didn't share today, but there's,
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I don't know if anybody's seen that. So there's those.
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And then ‸ we do have, we're starting out local. ‸ We want to really saturate Brevard County and make sure that our community understands what the brand is and is sharing that out because that's going to give more leverage as we reach outward and start to advertise outside of the area.
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just us advertising it. So it's going to be a little bit more effective, but also fiscally responsible with, with how we're spending the funds.
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Yeah. I was referring to the trade magazines because I know we're trying, this is also a way to attract people to our area. And they've
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done some different articles
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articles as well. So, okay, thanks.
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I just wanted to extend a big thank you for coming out here tonight to present this, um, and, uh, recognizing
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you know, Coco plays a major part in the space coast. Without Coco, you get no space coast in my opinion. So thank you for caring enough to come out and include us in your circle and making the space coast a better place. So thank you for that.
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Have a good day. Thank you for the time.
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I have one card submitted. Is there another one?
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Yes, ma'am. Okay.
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you wanting to speak on a particular item or you want to speak on a delegation?
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Uh, you tell me. I have concerns about my residential property that's backing up to a commercial property between them.
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Delegation then. Yes, ma'am. Okay.
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So, you're up, ‸ ma'am, Mrs. Lewis.
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you.
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My name is Michelle Lewis and I live at [address]. Um, my property is 10 acres where I raise livestock and, um, three small children, um, by myself. And,
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is developing the apartments there and they've cleared the, a lot of the brush from behind my house. Um, luckily I was able to speak with them and they didn't clear all of it yet that to create a little bit of a buffer. Um, my concern was I spoke with their project manager as
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who is the owner, one of the partners in the development. And they said they had no plans of putting up any sort of fencing or anything that comes along my property line. Uh, so I've, I've tried multiple times to contact the zoning department who sent me to the building and permitting. And,
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Jennifer regarding, um, you know, looking into this,
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did give me a little information where he just confirmed the property plans that they do not have a plan to put up a fence or a buffer or a wall. Um, so I tried to do a lot of my own research, um, and speak with a lot of the developers. I know that are friends of mine and everybody's under the, um,
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impression that there is supposed to be some sort of wall to protect us. I lived there for 10 years.
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year old boys and I am a single mom and I
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the ranch all by myself. And now that we've lost that, that privacy buffer and you know, we just don't feel very secure. You know, the animals are highly ‸ exposed, uh, to everything that's going on. Uh, I'm concerned because they did share with me their site plans and it shows that their parking lot is going to be right up to my fence line. We also have a survey dispute going on because the title company that provided me with a survey before I bought the place 10 years ago, um, shows that my fence is a foot and a half inside my property.
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So there's a big dispute there. So we're just trying ‸ to work that out amicably. Um, and, uh, but they did, when I asked them, you know, what's, what's going on? Is this 13 feet really a huge deal for you guys?
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I don't want to interrupt their business. I'm not trying to stop it from happening.
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just wanted a buffer so I can keep my kids safe. You just never know who's going to be looking over there. Or when you drive down
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my entire backside of my property is exposed. You can see all of my valuables that we keep in our barn. Our barn was built, you know, in a specific distance from the fence to, to try to keep everything, you know, as it should be according to the city. Um, so I guess I just wanted to bring it to your attention to see if there's anything that can be done to pursue, uh, having them build a wall. I spoke with
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He came to my house. He showed me all his plans and he basically said the best he can do is a little privacy fence, but it would be on my property and I would be responsible for maintaining that. And my day is already packed full with other things I have to maintain there. And so when I ‸ looked into the municipal codes and things, and even though I have to apologize for my ignorance on a lot of this,
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I'm not educated in that way, but I, it's my understanding that with
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that there has to be at least an eight foot barrier. And I wanted to just see if that's correct or if that's, or how, how I need to pursue looking into this further so I can provide that security and protection for my family and my animals.
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Yeah, the code may require a barrier between commercial and residential.
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that wouldn't be applicable in this case there. And
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correct me if I'm wrong on that. But I think, I think it's the difference between this is not a commercial, uh, property.
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buffer between commercial and residential. But again, this is, this is primarily residential to residential.
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Okay. So can you define what commercial versus multifamily is? Because everything that I've had look up, including my attorney says that it is commercial property because it's a business where they're renting apartments.
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It's, it's a, it's a multifamily apartment complex.
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Okay. So when I look at a zoning map and it says commercial, it's, that's not exactly what it is
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Yeah, you're, you're, the zoning, the zoning may be commercial because this is, this came under the statute that allows, uh, multifamily
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commercial if they're doing affordable housing. And so, so you may see commercial on the zoning map. But again, this project is a multifamily residential. And so, so, so that's probably the inconsistency. That's probably causing the confusion.
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he said that he would put up a, a privacy fence that separates just part of my property, not the whole thing. And even then a privacy fence, you know, it can get knocked over at any time. I have animals that can run through a privacy fence. You know, I'm
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to have headlights coming into my property. There's gonna be parking lot lights everywhere. There's gonna be noise. It's, it just really creates a huge safety and security issue for not only my family and I, but the animals that I raised there that I've been raising for 10 years. And, you know, I go
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like that. Um, and they're very sensitive to things like that, which is why I, I just wanted to bring it to attention. I just don't know what to do at this point. So I appreciate your time. I'm.
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Yeah. I'll, I'll reach out to Mr. Mears and see what I can do.
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Okay. Well, thank you guys very much. One
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more question. ‸ Is this the property here at
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Um, yes, I'm directly across 524 and I'm parallel with the power lines there. So I'm on the north side of 524. And so there's, there's 10 acres right there that backs right up to, ‸ but yes, sir.
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that's right across. Yes, sir.
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appreciate your time.
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Yes.
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Good evening, all.
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Good evening.
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Just giving you a little update about what's been going on with us. Um, since the last time we spoke, we've expanded our medical and mental health. We now have two staff nurses, a mental health counselor, along with, uh, three volunteer nurse
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We continue to do our Monday and Wednesday mobile team that goes out between six and 11. We are averaging anywhere from 70 to 85 people per day out on the road with anywhere from six to 12 new people. That means never seen before, um, on each of those days. Wednesday nights, we continue our dinner between four and 5 PM average of 20 to 30 people. Then we have our third, uh, Tuesday and Thursday outreach days between eight and 12 30 PM. We're averaging 130 to 150 per day. Um, all of these people will receive a hot shower and a hot meal plus the other services that we offer. We also have Bible study on Saturdays, which ‸ is averaging now from 40, 30 to 40 people with the option again for a shower and always a hot meal. We have two gentlemen currently in our moving forward program.
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Monday at the age of 35 and one at the age of 49 has registered for the new upcoming CDL classes at the Brevard County adult learning center. In addition, we have four celebrate recovery meetings that happen on our property in front of you. There is our new magazine along with an invitation for our fall fundraiser. I'll be happy to answer, answer any questions. If you have any.
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You got, you have the documentation to support that.
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So clearly beyond a shadow of a doubt, it's indicative that people are aware of the great accomplishments. Even through resistance, ‸ you recognize your positive productivity, rewarding, improved lifestyle for the various individuals because you know you can't give up. You can give out, but you can't give up. Yep. And that's what we're doing. ‸ Thank you very much. Now I want to ask one question. I don't know if it's a good question or not, but here it goes. We talked about that.
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I think Deputy Mayor was there too as well. That event. Yep.
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want to elaborate about that. Some of the people you're encountering. The organizations. I
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can tell you that when we raised the question on the House Bill 1365 and simply asked what the candidate's plan was, I can tell you that most candidates did not even know what House Bill 1365 was, let alone have a plan. The one person that I did speak with did say that the cities are not doing their part. They are not taking responsibility for their homeless communities and that there are funds out there for the cities to approach and ask for.
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That's not true. Let's be honest. And if you read the bill, it talks about counties. Let's be frankly honest, brutally honest. Let's be honest again. No one wants it in their own backyard. But I know the real deal. And the real deal is this.
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Like it ‸ if you don't. It's just like I saw a sign.
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That's right.
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I deal with the data. I know what I encounter because I'm on a major corridor. But I won't give up. But I'm willing to help those that want to be assisted.
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Thank you.
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Once they learn how to comprehend House Bill 1365 to its fullest, and then I think you will see, fortunately, our government did not provide any funding for this mandate.
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it's going to fall on the county, which they will include the municipalities.
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They don't even have it on their docket for allocation for that. But I'm part of the homeless coalition with Mrs. Amber Carroll and a long list of other individuals.
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We're in full force to address the concerns. We have a plan where there is no other plan.
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three in the entire United States of homeless population.
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Really?
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Truthfully. That's the way they conveyed it to us. Wow. So we have to be proactive and not reactive.
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And let me just add to that. The last point in time count showed that Orange County was in a deficit of 900 beds. Brevard County is in a deficit ‸ of over 700 beds.
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Wow. So I'm not saying the numbers are skewed. But it does add up. I
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It's 100 plus thousand.
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Any other questions?
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you and what Scott do. You know, the things you come up here and report to us is one thing. But to actually, you know, go out to the campus ‸ as I was out there today with you. And you hear some of the stories that they are capturing of some of our homeless people throughout the community. And it is for a variety of reasons. But to go out there if you haven't been and just experience it, it's a huge issue that we have ‸ countywide, statewide, nationwide. And I just appreciate
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with this issue. We talk about being proactive as a city. You know, we had pushback when you guys first came to the city. And I thank the council for taking that brave step and allowing Matthews
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if you haven't already, make sure you get a chance to subscribe to their magazines. They actually go ‸ throughout the community and actually capture the stories of some of our homeless citizens throughout the community. ‸ Unfortunately, we even have homeless deaths here. And I thank you all for at least trying to help these people become, you know, better their situation. So thank you for that. And
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We have some things coming in the works that we're working on. And I look forward to presenting that to the council.
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Tell us quickly about your podcast and then we'll proceed forward.
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About our podcast? Yes, ma'am. So our podcast is actually called
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You will
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about the ins and outs of homelessness, the challenges. I have been on before with the perspective as the advocate. I have been doing mobile for six years now. And I can tell you that even advocacy from being the inside advocate to the outside advocate, it's very different when you meet people out where they are. Okay. So the podcast is amazing. You get all different kinds of point of views. And we ‸ have asked for candidates to come on and give ‸ their point of view. We want to hear it all, whether we agree or not. We want to have the discussion
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open discussion about it.
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you. Thank you for your time.
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Yes, ma'am. Thank you for your time. This concludes this portion of delegations. And we will proceed forward to ‸ consent agenda items for the wishes of council.
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Motion to approve.
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We have a motion on
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floor by Deputy Mayor Hearns
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favor saying aye. Aye. And in a's, ayes have unanimous. Proceeding on to public hearings.
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the audience, turn it over to the public. Give you three minutes to expound on this particular item. And then we will proceed forward. ‸ Item number 6-1. Approve the second and final reading of ordinance number 10-24.
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the referendum ballot. Extending the program for additional 10 years. If
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may, as you guys know, there's nine points of this on page 202 that we address. I mean, it's standard procedures now. It's a way of enticing businesses to come to the City of Cocoa. And it's fair and equitable. But it's going to be left up to the citizens on how they would like to address this issue. That's why I'm going to be, sir.
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Providing for a referendum election in ballot language for the November 5th, 2024 election.
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Providing for coordination with the supervisor of elections. Providing for severability and an effective date. It's also a public hearing item. The council
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requesting that this referendum be placed on the ballot.
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When circumstances warrant for economic development and job purposes. That authority has been in place since 1995.
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Yes, sir. This is the second reading. And I did address in the agenda item. The one question that councilman Koss had last time. So if there's any other questions, I'm happy to answer them.
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And open to the public. Please come forward and state your name for us, please. So we can address your concerns. Going once. Going twice.
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public and return to the council. What is the wishes of? Council. Motion to approve. We have a motion on the floor by Deputy Mayor Hearn. Second. Second. Okay. You got it? Did you get it? Okay.
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going to call the question. All in favor by saying aye.
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Any nays? Ayes have it unanimously. Proceeding on to the next item.
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Consideration of the preliminary plan unit development.
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Consistent with Appendix A zoning. Article 11. Section 17.
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family residential subdivision. Plus or minus 57.23 acres of property located on the east side of North Range Road. ‸ North of Kathy Kim Street. This was approved unanimously by the PNC Board.
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We're talking about positive control
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And we're moving forward. Mr. Steve Noto. ‸ Yes
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sir. Thank you mayor. Good evening council.
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the record. Steve Noto. RBI planning and landscape architecture planning consultant for the city of Cocoa. Presented to you this evening.
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As you mentioned mayor. The subject property is just over 57 acres in size. Located on the east side of North Range Road. North of Kathy Kim Street. Adjacent to Hooper Road. To the west. Subject property is currently vacant. Approximately half of the property.
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The proposed
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Future land use of the subject property is low density residential LDR. Which allows a maximum of seven dwelling units per acre. On the overhead and in your packet is a screenshot of the future land use map of the general area.
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can see the majority of properties are LDR.
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Which are VLDR. Which stands for very low density residential. Subject property is a mixture of three zoning districts.
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And then one small portion of it has no zoning. And again as you can see on the zoning map. Surrounding zoning districts are similar in nature.
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To the west.
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With ‸ multiple open space tracks.
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associated infrastructure. The project is proposing two lot types. 40 feet wide and 50 feet wide. There's also some 55 feet wide lots proposed.
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a minimum 40 feet wide. And 30
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minimum 50 feet wide. And as I mentioned the developable ‸ area of the property. Is 28 and a half acres.
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little bit different. Than other types of projects that have been proposed. This is just the preliminary PD. So if the item is approved. There are no entitlements that run with this. It's not the final approval. They still have to go through final PD.
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The plans that would be associated with the final PD. Would include the development standards.
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So I'll give you a ‸ brief overview. ‸ Of the proposed subdivision.
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can see on the overhead. The overall site plan that is proposed. And again I'll walk you through some different components of it here.
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The main access point is adjacent to Hooper Road. With secondary access point just to the north. And as I mentioned the proposed plan.
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a mix of 40 feet wide and 50 foot wide lots.
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You can see on the overhead. There's some faint color. That was meant to show. A variety of lot widths.
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light blue. Indicates a 55 foot wide lot. The red is 50. And the yellow is 40. And they're interspersed throughout the community. The proposed setbacks are 20 feet in the front. 5 on the side.
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20 in the rear. That's compared to the typical code requirement. Of 25 in the front. 8 on the side.
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15. And then 15 feet for the rear. As I mentioned at the opening. Approximately half of the property is wetlands. Those are going to remain as wetlands. They will not be disturbed whatsoever.
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They'll be put into a conservation easement. To add on to that. There will be no connection. To ivy drive to the east. As you can see. There's a proposed cul-de-sac. In the upland area. And that's where the project ends. The land of development code for PUDs. Requires a minimum of 20% open space. The project is required.
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provide 5.7 acres. The applicant's providing 9.45.
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And I'll walk you through some of those right now. Track B is the largest. Which is on the south side of the property. Or the project rather. It is a stormwater pond. That will include a sidewalk path. Benches. And the pond will be stocked with fish. In accordance with FWS recommendations. ‸ Tracks E,
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O, and P. Are adjacent to two of the street areas. Those are general open space areas.
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benches and trees. Tracks G and K. Consist of stormwater ponds.
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have sidewalks along the top of the bank. And those will be interconnected. To the other sidewalks.
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are within the community.
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is on the north side of the property. Will consist of a dog park. Sidewalks and open space. And
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also include a tot lot.
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The preliminary development plan. Does not require a landscape plan. But when they get to final. A full landscape plan will be reviewed. And recommendations will be made on it.
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land development code.
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Having said that. They are proposing a six foot tall. Fence and wall around the perimeter.
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final details of that. To be shown
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the final development plan. One important thing. That was talked about during project review. With staff. And with the applicant. Was the lot dimensions.
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Are not common lot widths. Seen
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And so. What we recommended. Or what was recommended by staff. To the applicant.
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you need to show up.
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your A game. For architecture. And your ‸ A
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lot landscaping. So these renderings. That are shown on the overhead. Right now. Are the conceptual. Architectural renderings. For the homes. That would be placed. Throughout the community. There is not a final builder. At this point. However. If the project. Is approved.
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plan. Which. That is our intention. As reviewing staff. Is to make sure.
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Whenever the builder. Shows up. To construct.
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the neighborhood.
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in the community. They will have to follow.
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regulations. Shown on this plan.
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that includes. Any additional language. That may be placed. On the plan. In the staff report.
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That may get into. Some specifics. About the actual materials. That are to be used. On the homes. So there are a number of findings. That have to be met. As part of a preliminary PD request.
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Here in the next few slides.
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terms of character.
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density. As I mentioned. ‸ The area around the property. Consists of LDR. Parcels and VLDR. The VLDR. Land use is a maximum. Of four dwelling units per acre. Now. With this subject property. If the applicant chose. To develop the entire property. Which they could do. Through wetland mitigation measures. And other. Types of mechanisms.
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However.
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‸ possible. Which would give them a maximum of 200. They're not even doing that. The proposed density is 2.14 dwelling units per acre. Which gives them the maximum of 61. And I'll mention. When they first submitted. The project for review.
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was 71 dwelling units. All of the lots were 40 feet. And so through review and negotiation. They eventually split. The lot widths in half. Some were 40s. Some were 50s.
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With the maximum allowed. And it's even below it. Of the VLDR. Future land use across the street.
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the relationship with surrounding neighborhoods. I mentioned the density comparables. One other thing to point out. Is the minimum square footage. For the homes. Per zoning code is 1,200 square feet. As you saw. It was a variety of one story. Two story homes. Those floor plans will range in size. From just under 1,600 square feet. To just over 3,000 square feet.
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size.
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of the final PD. Will be locked in. And so when permitting would occur. Whoever is pulling those permits. Would have to match the renderings. And the details of the final PD plan. Provision number four.
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the provision for future public education. Recreation facilities. Transportation. Water supply. Sewage disposal. Surface drainage. Flood control. And soil conservation.
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shown in the preliminary development plan. Water and sewer will be provided by a city of Coco. Via existing water lines. On the west side of North Range Road. And an existing lift station. Loaded on the east side of North Range Road. Surface drainage. ‸ Flood control. And soil conservation. Will be addressed with the proposed stormwater ponds. That are designed to comply with the water quality.
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quantity requirements.
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the city and state.
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Of the development. As I mentioned. There are two points of access. Proposed from North Range Road. The secondary access. Which is to the north. Is roughly 700 feet. From the main access point. No improvements are proposed. On North Range Road. As the traffic impact analysis. Found that all impacted roadways. Were projected to operate. Operate adequately at build out. And that was. That study was done based on 71. Dwelling units.
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of course there's an improvement. Going down to 61 there as well. The nature intent. And compatibility of common space. Including the proposed method. For the maintenance of conservation. Of said common space. As I mentioned. There are multiple. Open space. Common space tracks. All of those will be owned. And operated by the future HOA. The availability and adequacy.
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primary streets. And thoroughfares. To support traffic. To be generated. Within the proposed PD. As I mentioned. The internal roadways. Actually those will be local roadways. To access points.
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is intended. Or anticipated rather. That the internal roadways. Will be private. Owned and maintained by the HOA. And as I said. The TIA. Traffic impact analysis. Was done. Reflecting 71 units. And at that point. No additional. Improvements were proposed. Or required of North Range Road.
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the same remains. For 61. Proposed units. Availability and adequacy. Of water sewer service. Support the PD. As I mentioned. The project will connect. To an existing 12 inch water line. Located on the west side. ‸ North Range Road.
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then sewer. Will connect to an existing lift station. And it was found. That there was sufficient capacity.
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support. The proposed preliminary PD. Is also consistent. With allowable uses. Under the LDR. Future language category. Of the city of Coco's comp plan.
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‸ Flu one. And flu policy. One one two three. And mayor. As you mentioned. The planning and zoning board. Unanimously recommended approval. Of the project. At their meeting last week.
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Of the preliminary PD. Consistent with appendix A zoning. Article 11. Section 17. For the three parcels. Totaling
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With the parcel ID numbers. Show on the overhead. I'll be happy to take any questions. The applicants engineer. Is also here this evening. If you have any technical questions.
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Yes sir. Greg Crawford. Yes sir.
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good. I have a quick question.
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Could you digress.
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take us back to those photos.
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the homes. Thank you. As children. Because of the cost.
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owning a new home. A lot of families. Are having
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you know. Go to post education. High school.
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My question is. I'm looking at a.
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garage. I'm just trying to see. You know. We're dealing with one area.
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Arlington apartments. During the time.
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its construction. Vehicles. Not everyone owned.
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vehicle. Now that we have family members. Staying at home.
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local. Etc. Etc. Being educated at home.
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get what I'm saying. Yes sir.
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Of traveling. Along that road. Parking on the street.
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‸ Okay. Devin the mayor.
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Yes. If you could take me back. Yep. Right there. Was there a reason. Given him. Given why they won't connect. Ivy drive to this property.
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So the applicant. Did have a neighborhood meeting. Last fall.
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actually one of the concerns. Was. Making sure a connection. Was not provided. By one of the neighbors. They requested that a connection. Not be made between the two. That would also impact the wetlands. I imagine the. Engineer could talk. A little bit more. As ‸ that decision as well.
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Growing up. I was. Attended Cocoa High School. Many of the kids. Right now. There's a pathway.
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They use that to. Access Cocoa High School. And the elementary school. And. You know. I don't know what the neighbors. Think in that community there. But. I. I would love to see. A. Safer route. For the kids to take. In access to the schools. Instead of being locked out. That's all I have on that.
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Yeah. Um. Let's see. Where do I start?
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foot. Lots.
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Oh sure. Um. So we've. Our. Our company of course. Is based in Orlando. It's something we've been seeing in Orlando. For some time now. Where. Home builders. Are trending more towards. The 50 foot.
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been common for a while.
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Have become a bit more popular.
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try and. Bring down the cost. Also. There seems to be this trend. Of. The desire to have more. Building square footage. On the property. As opposed to yard space. Now that may be. Differing demographics. In differing areas.
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know. To your point mayor. Amount of folks. That are either staying at home. Or having larger families. Um. In communities I've worked in previously. The trend has been. Towards. Generally speaking. Lots.
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are less than 5,000 square feet. In size. Having 20 foot. Rear yard setbacks. But having homes. That are. 2,000 to 3,000 square feet. In size.
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they're still selling. For premiums.
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And the price point. On these homes.
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These. From what was discussed.
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But it sounds like. A minimum. A $300,000 starting point.
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Okay. And. What does.
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conservation easement. Mean.
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So the wetland area.
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be held. In conservation. In perpetuity. So no.
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within. And there'll be a separate legal document. To ensure its. Protection. For years to come.
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And. Whose ownership. Is that property in.
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The conservation easement. I believe the intent is to dedicate it. To St. John's. And the city. We'd have to get in the details of that. A little bit more in the final PD.
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So then they would be responsible for that. Okay.
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Um. ‸ They're 57 acres total.
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So. It's. It's more like. 4.6 per acre. Which I'm okay with. Sure. Um. But I just. As I was reading through this stuff. I'm thinking. Having walked all those neighborhoods. In College Manor. And knowing a lot of those folks. And hearing the stories. About how heavy equipment. Has gone missing in those wetlands. I mean those wetlands. When they get wet. They are really muddy. And you know.
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I know you can do it during dry. During the dry season. But not so much during the wet. It ‸ really. They're pretty significant wetlands. Um. So anyway. I just. It took me until the very end. Where you talked about. That. You know.
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actually. You know. The wetland buffer.
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that. There was only. That it was. Less. Than the. 2.6 dwelling units per acre. But. So we have.
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Recently
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And. We thought. That the developer. Was also going to be doing.
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building. And then they sold it. To. D.R. Horton. And. Um.
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You know. What the houses look like. And they really don't. Look the way. People in the neighborhood. Had anticipated. For them to look.
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I mean. How strong is that.
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This is too cumbersome. I want to change the architecture on it.
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mean.
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I would say the.
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able to hold their feet to the fire on that.
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With the final PD. Yes. That would be. The intent and requirement of that document. That if. If these renderings are shown. Unless there's. Loose language that says you have to meet the general intent. You know. There's some vagueness to that. But if the demand or the requirement of the PD. The demand of the PD is. That you have. And it can be written in a manner that says.
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know. Windows have to have certain types of dressings. And you have to have certain type of stone finishes on the facades. Varying door colors. Varying. Types of facade finishes next to each building or across the street. There's. A variety of ways where you can build it into the language of the PD. Where the only way to change it would be to come back to this council. And request an amendment.
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Okay. And in terms of when they do the clearing. So they still have to go to. Abide by our tree ordinance.
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Correct.
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Okay. And that will be coming up.
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That would be part of the final PD request. Yes. Which would also come before the council.
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Okay. I apologize for my mistake.
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Okay. Well that's all my questions. Thank you.
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Um.
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Can you go back to the uh. The.
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Um. So. I know
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Especially on the. On the. South end by Stetson and ‸ other areas.
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But.
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and any improvements that
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might have to do. Um. Because of the new project.
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Sure. Yeah. And the engineer ‸ could probably. Um. Get into that a little bit more. In a little bit more detail. Something we would look into much further. As part of the final PD plan.
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They have a traditional history of being flooded there. And as you know that is a county road.
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that. Various individuals have been struggling with that. You're right. Flooding is a severe issue there. Councilwoman calls ma'am. Greg come to the podium please sir. Go ahead. Councilwoman. Yeah
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it was actually. This is probably more for Abby. Because I was just.
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His question triggered. In my mind. In our budget. We had talked about spending.
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On that particular section of Range Road. That we needed to rebuild that. And does that. Address some of the flooding issues. We've had.
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There. No. That would just be for the rehabilitation. And repair. Of the condition of the road.
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Repairing it. As it is now.
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‸ It wasn't real evident. When I rode down the road. I mean it. Wasn't very clear to me. How that section of the road. Was different. Than other sections. But. Does that happen. Before the building takes place. Yes.
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It ‸ happens.
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Of that road. Just. Uh. North of. Kim. Kathy. Kim. Right.
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Okay. So. Impact fees. Don't go. Toward. The rehabilitation. Of that road. Do they.
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Capacity related.
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Okay. That's the only way you spend impact fees on it. Okay. And. Okay. So it's not capacity related. Because we
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this. But.
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Okay. Okay. I get that. Thanks.
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Good evening. My name is Greg Crawford.
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regards to the project. A civil engineer. On that.
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Uh. So appreciate the presentation. Stevens presented with the project. So he's done a great job. And kind of explaining what we've tried to do with this. Our discussion that we had with the. The city.
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lots. At 71. To the 50-50 mix that we have now. Uh.
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came with questions. That were discussed a few minutes ago.
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try to take and. Go ahead and do that. I know from a parking standpoint. Uh. We are looking at basically. It's a two car garage.
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There is that foot front setback. That basically allows you to have two cars. Even there.
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Within a lot. Without having to get out into the right of way. Uh. So I think that might help address. With regards to what you're talking about. Having maybe a few more cars. And just two for a normal. Uh. Family. On that. And um. So yeah. So have the two car garage.
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And then there was a discussion.
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regards to the connection to ivy lane. Uh.
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had uh. Had a neighborhood meetings. Uh. That was one of the concerns from the neighbors. That they did not want to have the traffic cutting through. And go and make that connection between range road. And the other roads there. Uh. There are actually two parts to it. One is that one with the um. Concern with regards to connection. Two.
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Uh. ‸ The where the existing ivy lane is. That actually they don't own. The property owner doesn't own. So in order to be able to take that line up.
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would be property to have to be purchased from somebody else anyway. In order to try to do that. Because the line. The roads don't line up with property that is owned by the current property owner. That's trying to develop the lot right now. So ‸ that's where we've kind of gone with. Is going ahead and doing the dead end. But we did take them for earlier discussions that we had with the city. When we were doing some earlier development. Uh.
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street. In order to allow it to come through. And keep that intersection close. Instead of an offset road. Uh. On
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And then um.
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easement is something that is placed into ‸ perpetuity. Uh.
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order to
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development. Uh. Typically those are owned by the HOA.
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they have a development right. Over top of from the St. John's.
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Uh. Any development on that. But uh. Really. Typically isn't given over to St. John's or anything like that. Uh. But it's put in an easement that would protect it from development later date. And in order to do anything you'd have to go back through. A lot of. Hoops in order to try to take and do anything other than leaving it as a conservation easement. And then um. At the house.
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I know that just to follow up. We have talked with the owner of the property. The developer. Uh. With it. And he knows about the different elevations
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put in there. And he's. He's good with trying to have that as being part of the development agreement. Uh. At the end. In order to take and have those looks being what they have to follow. Regardless of who comes in and actually does the building of the homes themselves. They would need to follow that that look uh
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So um. You know we're looking forward to try to move forward with this project. We've been working for quite a while. We'd like to go ahead and get this through to make sure we know what the lot count is. Uh. With regards to the development of the 50-50 mix. Now when we can move forward to try to get the construction plans put together. And come through and do the rest of the uh. Development permitting process with the city.
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Start getting the project moving forward. And here for any other questions that you might have.
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Yes uh. So I understand what you said about the neighbors in that community uh. Adjacent not wanting traffic. Did they elaborate as to uh.
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Coming through that location.
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I don't think they differentiated but I believe the vehicle traffic was really their concern.
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Okay. Because
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uh.
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to access school from that way. And um. I know it's still preliminary but. Um. Maybe we could look at even possibly adding a side sidewalk through there and allow kids to still access Range Road to get to school later down the line. But um. Um.
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just wanted to know if their concerns was cars or just foot traffic period. So
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like I said it really wasn't discussed but I think their intent or that was really for vehicular traffic. They didn't want to come through there. Perfect. Thank you.
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‸ Any questions from Mr. Cranford? Thank you sir very much.
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the closest portion.
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we have any other cards or any other comments from the public?
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close this portion of public comments and return it to council?
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‸ It is not permanent correctly. Mr. Steve correct
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mayor. This would be the only reading of the preliminary PD.
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Aye.
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to create new minimum yard requirements applicable to the properties located in the diamond square community redevelopment area. Zone are you to excuse
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And I know for a fact one of our council members inquired about that from district number one. And
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um, as we move forward and the beautiful type of quality homes that are constructed there. And I'm gonna ‸ turn it over
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I do would like to say on
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Okay.
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a article 11 section three of the
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requirements applicable to properties located in both.
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square community redevelopment area providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions incorporation into the code severability and an effective date. This is first reading and also ‸ public hearing item.
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evening. I'm Lucy city planner. So as mentioned, this is a zoning tax amendment to promote new new single family development within the diamond square community through the revision of technical amendments that relax.
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C.R.A.
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And Rosa L. Jones drive to the south. This area comprises residential homes, commercial businesses, and light industrial uses.
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Cocoa has invested millions to enhance streets, drainage, purchase land for affordable housing, and build a new community center. To further support development, ‸ the proposed ordinance aims to relax yard setbacks requirements for single-family homes within the diamond square CRA the ordinance addresses the issues faced by non-conforming lots that have difficulty meeting the setback requirements of the
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face challenges due to their irregular shapes and
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‸ making compliance difficult. By creating new, last restrictive setbacks requirements for this area, the new ordinance aims to facilitate development and improve land use efficiency. as you can see, the current requirements for setbacks for the front setback is 25 feet, for the side interior lock setbacks 8 feet, for the side corner is 15 feet, and for the rear is 15 feet. So what staff proposes is the changes for reducing to 20 feet for the front setback, the interior lots are back to reduce to 5 feet, the side corner lock setback to be reduced to 10 feet, and the rear reduction to 10 feet. and
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a building enveloped,
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building that would almost
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the whole lot, but we still have to consider the mass maximum impervious area and the coverage that is permitted under the medium density residential, that is the future land use. So
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city
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future growth and development. Discourage the profiliferation or urban sprawl and implement the goals, objectives, and policies of this comprehensive plan. Continue to support the revitalization of its Florida enterprise zone is designated Florida brownfield area the Diamond Square redevelopment area,
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the Heart of Cocoa area, concentrating on issues such as crime, economic development, and affordable housing. Staff requests that the City Council approves Ordinance 12 2024 on this first reading, a zoning tax amendment to create new minimum yard setback requirements applicable to properties located in the
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stated there on five feet on each side and go back 10-15 feet in the front and 10 feet in the back and I think that we can endure that. So I would
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that with resistance.
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now that I understand the full content of this, I think I will support this.
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Yes, sir.
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Thank you for changing your mind. I appreciate it.
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I haven't voted yet.
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I think I appreciate staff for working through this.
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because I think it's time for our city and all cities really to wake up and realize that housing's market and the type of product is changing.
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I ‸ have a room I
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So I don't need to have a 2,500 square foot home. Most families now don't need a huge home. And so a lot of families are looking for that 1,200, 1,100, 1,300 square foot home. And you'd be surprised that the old way of thinking is
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really not. And so things are changing. I think we have to adapt to that. And I believe staff, city manager have done a good job of ‸ making that swift change. So I appreciate them. And hopefully we can get a unanimous vote on this. And the next
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27.
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Okay. ‸ Is that it, sir? Yes, sir. Okay. We'll proceed in this order. Councilwoman calls and city manager with.
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Okay. So this is similar to what we just discussed, right? Yes.
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the other developments, just almost the same thing. So how do we, because we're creating more impervious surface,
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how do we mitigate for that? Well, it's not creating more because we do have the, the future land use, um, regulates the impervious area based on the future land use zoning. So that
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So that would not change. The setbacks were, the yard requirements will not affect the impervious
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requirements.
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Well, it counts in everything. So normally when the impervious area is calculated is all the surface, not only the house.
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Driveways.
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Driveways, sidewalks, whatever, you know, and then they also have requirements for, um, the backyard coverage. There's a, they have to meet.
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So, but I mean, I'm looking at, aren't we expanding the size of the house? Well,
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this is just an example. So, yeah, it probably won't look like this, you know, it depends on the size of the lot and everything has to be taken consideration. Here is just to give an idea if you use a small
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because there's some lots in, um, this area,
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40 feet wide, you know, so it's just to try to accommodate those lots, but they still have to meet all the requirements. And
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I understand that.
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flooding, even in this state and in areas where, and thinking back about even the 2017 storms that, um, the areas that flooded ‸ the most were those that had the most impervious surface.
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for every vehicle in the city. I mean, they just developed that way for whatever reason. It just happened that way.
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when the rains came. So,
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um,
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I'm not opposed ‸ to this, but, um, I'm just curious if it's going to impact us stormwater wise. That's my question. I don't know if anyone has an answer. Really?
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I think, um, I didn't help on this item, but some, so if there, you said they're 40 feet wide Lucy.
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LDR land use is 0.65. So if we just add a 4,000 square feet, that's 2,600 square feet of impervious. So I think if it's, if someone's building, let's say a 1800 square foot home and then you have, um, 20 by 20 driveway, roughly, you're going to fall under that fall at or under the, uh, the max impervious allowed by the land use. So it should be roughly the same.
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Yeah. So really the ideal here is that people go up.
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It could leave them that way.
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which we'll be talking about a little bit later on the rates. But that was the reason we teared it the way we did for there to be an economic driver. Okay.
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Um, I just want to, um,
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that when we review building permits, me and Jennifer, we do take that in consideration. We also be a look every permit that comes, uh, through the city. And if we have any doubts or if you're not sure, we always ask Abby to assist us in trying to determine that. So it is something that we take seriously. It's just, I want to bring to your attention.
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But none of those ratios are affected by the setbacks.
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so, so none of the ISR ratios are affected. We haven't changed those. In other words, the requirements, um, for, for, uh, impervious surface there.
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Um, just want to, want to make sure that we're getting that message across there. It's, it's, it's not, it's not a,
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small homes.
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or shaped lots. Um, so,
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again, I think this is a, this is a good thing. It's a long overdue thing within the, uh, within the diamond square. And as we, uh, go across the, uh, us
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to your heart. All right. Any other questions before I turn it over to the public? Seeing,
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chair related to close this portion to council and over to the public. ‸ Please come forward and state your name. Your concerns.
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Thank you, Dick.
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close this portion to the public and return to the council? What are the wishes of council?
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call the question. All in favor. Aye. It's unanimous. So, yes, sir.
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proceeding on to the next item. Item number four. Request to postpone the city
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of an appeal regarding the city of Cocoa
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the proposed special exemption to permit the sale of beer and wine in the CBD dash CBO district as outlined in Appendix A, zoning Article 11, Section 13, C6, and Section 22L of the city of Cocoa.
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But, hey, um, you can make a motion but we still have to give the public the opportunity. I'll second it for discussion. But, Mr. City Manager, do
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want to say anything, sir? Uh,
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no, sir. This is just a simple, uh, postponement request.
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Thank you very much, sir.
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Please come forward and state your name and your concerns, only pertaining to the postponement of this.
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We have a
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chair.
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Aye.
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Aye. Aye. Aye's added unanimously. Proceeding on to
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Oh, excuse me, request for a special funding for land.
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And I do have two cards.
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Yes, thank you. This is an item that I requested to be put on the agenda.
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basically what I'm seeking is Council's approval to, uh, allow staff to
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letter, uh, to our state rep and even the governor, um, requesting, uh, some kind of special funding or grants to give the city the opportunity to purchase any like sensitive, any sensitive, um, environment, environmentally sensitive properties that we may have here in the
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those properties. Um, and that's my asks for this. I hear from the rest of the council on the item councilman going. Uh,
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the only question I have who determines what is environmentally sensitive. That's my only question that I have.
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planning to, uh, bring forth any recommendations on those properties throughout the city.
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environmentally, environmentally sensitive lands would be those that have an impact on an impaired water body such as the Indian River Lagoon. Um, also environmentally sensitive lands, all wetlands are considered environmentally sensitive ‸ because they act,
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they act as the liver, the kidneys, they clean the water, they give it an opportunity to, to filter. Um, and they also give us the capacity to protect against
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And the storm surge and, and heavy rainfalls. So those are all considered, uh, environmentally sensitive. Um, I'm wondering, the request for special funding and I thank you for bringing it forward. I think, you know, particularly we looked, you know, tonight we've entertained, you know, several proposals were developing very quickly. We have, um, in our packet tonight, and I went through, we have, um, you know, in some part of the process, we have
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um, in the near future that have submitted plans or are interested in doing so. Um,
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since I've been serving for the last six years. So we're in a boom period. Um, we're developing quickly. And we can easily lose sight of the importance of having natural areas that provide not only passive recreation, but protect environmentally sensitive lands, provide corridors for wildlife, and protect us during storms, um, by offering more flood capacity.
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the question I had was not, uh, whether or not I'd support this, you know, I support trying to do this, but there are several programs already in place that we can apply to,
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Right. Uh, there, and there is like a hundred million that the governor put toward, you know, purchasing environmentally sensitive properties. Like, I don't know that we have really looked at doing those. And then the other thing that, that has come up, because there are areas that we would, you know, where we will start to impede on wetlands, but are important for development. So, where is there mitigation, a mitigation bank? So, that is where, if you're forced to develop a certain area, you can actually apply monies to protect, you know, another wetland. Well, we don't, in Brevard County, we have no mitigation bank. So, when we've had people propose eliminating wetlands, or reducing wetlands, the ability to actually mitigate, and for cocoa to get the benefit from that, since we're actually going to suffer the losses, the ecosystem services, that we're not going to have because that wetland will be reduced.
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some sort of, and they call it
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the county. She was saying that the, the county had looked at that 20 years ago, but, I mean, basically let it go. So, the mitigation banks, there are mitigation banks in Volusia, for example, or south of us, but perhaps there's an opportunity for us to identify our environmentally sensitive areas, and form some sort of mitigation bank where we could benefit from these other areas that are being developed.
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proposal or your motion, to have staff look at both of these.
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both the EELS program. The EELS program would have
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some cases because the referendum where the EELS program was renewed in the last election specified that
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an impact on the Indian River Lagoon are high priority. So I know they have a limited amount of funds, but we also have several properties that are very environmentally sensitive and do impact the lagoon. So anyway, but we still have to hear from the public, I think.
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So that's what I'd like to offer. And again, thank you.
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Yes. Question, I have just a few questions. Who will be the individual or company, even though I know you said that you try to direct it to staff, the city manager and staff, will determine what is privately owned on environmental sensitive lands? Who and what and how will they determine this? That's my first question, because I have some reservations about this. What is an ecological balance? And who determines what is an ecological balance? How do they classify that or determine that? And then the third thing to me, this is like almost a form of eminent domain, because you're taking somebody's product.
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growth. And I think he would have some concerns about this as well. So that's the reason why I do have reservations about supporting this. I have sincere reservations and you ‸ can tell me and give me an excellent sentence, but I'm looking at the end of it all. And then when it's your own property, it's your property. You have to protect your property.
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and I have 25 acres and seven acres of wetlands that I'm not building on, but the community doesn't want me to build on the ‸ actual buildable pieces of property. And I found out that the city is now wanting to purchase my property. Guess how high my property is going to be when the city comes to me to ask me to purchase my particular piece of property. So
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It's just so many different factors. I think great, great idea for sure. I just it's just so many different things that I think we just need maybe in the future once we, you know, once you figure that out and maybe you
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propose that ‸ whenever you get to that.
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was just going to say that to the first question, science determines what is environmentally sensitive. The science is there and we don't have to recreate anything. You can be assured when something is environmentally sensitive. We can easily test that.
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do not take anyone's property. The property owner has to agree and they sell it at a market rate.
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And I'm not familiar with any other state programs where they do this kind of property. So those are the only two that I really am aware of.
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they require the owner to agree to it.
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What happens if the owner has a different value of
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I think it's ‸ amendment number five in reference of due process. And that's the question. What is the due process of what you think my land may be valued? Whereas
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I may have a different value.
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that's the reason why I'm just saying, I know for a fact ‸ when people are not aware or are not knowledgeablely aware or are sad enough to know exactly their full rights. Sometimes they take advantage of it and that's what we call eminent domain and it's done throughout the United States. And I don't want to be a part of that. That's my concern and that's where I stay. So, uh,
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kind of the echo off Councilwoman costs point, um, you would, I would expect for a property owner, you know, you would make an offer based off the market price. Um, now ‸ the property owner agrees or thinks his property is worth more. Um, it goes back to the basis.
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can't buy what you can't afford. So we don't have the money to, you know, purchase it at that price and it doesn't make sense. I wouldn't even encourage the city to go after that property at that point.
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property for the city's, uh, ‸ benefit.
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favor and adding that into my motion for staff to go and speak with the county in regards to those funds. My only, uh, my only proposal for that would be if the county did provide us funding to purchase some of these properties that the city maintains ownership of it, or we have the right to make decisions on those properties and not the county,
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I just had one more comment just to say that in most cases with the eels properties, you have property that because it's environmentally sensitive, there's some,
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the permitting and the, um,
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mitigation
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about here. Um, and I understand that the, um, the mitigation banks that those, those properties are, I mean, they are extremely valuable because there are so many people that want to mitigate and build. But,
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so it's, it's a good dollar amount that you get for those properties.
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no stomach for doing eminent domain on anyone. Um, but we're talking about properties that may be so expensive to build on that. And
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there may be some appetite for considering this.
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just my two cents. It, it looks like, like this is probably going to die if we vote on this. So my
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bring back more information.
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have a lot more questions and I don't want to sit on the diets and have all these questions that I'm not really getting. I need, I need, I'm the type I need to see it and stomach it. And so, so it just won't die because I believe this is a good idea that you bring it to the table. Maybe at the next council meeting, can you, um, we can direct staff to bring
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process is. And I think I, I will feel better, um, about vote on it
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I don't think it's, it's a rush for today.
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my opinion,
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just, I just wanted to say, um, it's only respectful to, um, allow the citizens that came here to
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I'm just trying to exhaust this avenue. Okay. Okay. Thank you.
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up the floor to the two members that submitted their cards? Do you have any comments?
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within the prerogative of the city council to seek money for,
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whatever that turns out to be.
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Manager?
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Actually,
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uh, give you my comments after the speakers, if you don't mind, Mr. Mayor.
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Yes, sir. Okay. First on the list,
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Frank Sullivan. And then after, well, let's do ladies first. Mrs. Smith.
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would you let the ladies go first, please, sir? Mrs. Smith.
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Hi, uh, Jenna Smith, [address], Cocoa, Florida. Mayor Blake, council members and staff. Um, hearing your conversation, this sort of changes the order of the presentation I made up. But what I would say is I'm particularly interested in an environmentally sensitive property at the intersection of Dixon Boulevard and Indian River Drive. And what I would like to invite council and staff is that we all get together and we go look at that property. Because it's an amazing wetland that's been there for years. I can't conceive how anyone could build on it. It would be a disaster because water flows into that area. It's like a bowl. And so water flows from the north, south and west. It flows directly on the ground if it's raining or coming off the road. But it also flows in underground streams. And how is a developer going to stop underground streams? You can't do it.
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when we have a rainy season. It's probably doing it right now. And it's just going to be in. Where's it going to go? Is it going to go in the river? The river is already in its capacity. I grew up in sharps on the river and we lost about 15 feet of our shoreline because of the river having more water in it.
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has already lost about five feet. And they even have a, what do they call, a seawall. So wetlands, as Councilman Cross was saying, purifies the water. So the water is flowing into the wetland. It seeps through and is purified and then goes into the river. And our river is called things like a endangered water body by the state.
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Florida. And they referred to our river as being inhabitable. It's a habit, habitated collapse for manatees. Those are both just sort of negative things that are out there in the world as they talk about Cocoa. The river at Cocoa. And do we really want to be known that way by professionals all over our state? I don't. And that, so can we arrange like a, what do they call it, like a
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and we go and look at that area together? How can we do that?
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part of the river. And we have a chance to do it with saving that wetland. And I invite us to form some kind of a something.
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Well, thank you for listening. You
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have a question. uh Councilwoman
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Yeah,
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I just wanted to respond to we cannot, all of us cannot go because of Sunshine Laws to look at an area we would need to uh visit individually. So, um that can be, that could be arranged.
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Okay. um ‸ Well, I'm willing to take it all of you individually and we'll do like a, um you know, where you go around and look at
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‸ Okay. We just haven't done anything like that.
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There are some significant caveats ‸ That's why
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I understand it, but I'm saying we can still be in the same build up and
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We go to a town hall meeting, we all are there, sir. And
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card, but let me just, on that on that particular,
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that particular site, you have a a site plan application. Is that a preliminary, is that a PUD that they're applying for?
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I'm sorry, say that again?
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Yeah, so you so you so you have you have that going through the process. So I'm not, I'll let Anthony advise you on on whether you should be visiting that site individually or as a group there. But they're they're in the uh in the site, in the site planning review process. um And so they've submitted their application, they've paid, um they're in that in that uh review process right now. Recall that that process is, there's a staff review, there's comments back and forth. There is the
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coming to the City Council.
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Mr. Sullivan, ‸ thank
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guy here. I'm just kind of bring a little history is what they want to bring.
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they had all the water kind of collected and funneled to the south. So, and just around just around the point there, they had a pump station where they would pump it under the road. I mean, it would come under a culvert and they'd pump it into the Indian River. So ‸ they kind of control that. What messed that up was when Dixon Boulevard was put in, that flow then had a back had a dike there. So actually, when Councilman Hearn came up with some ideas what to do with that property, I thought it's probably going to solve some problems for you all. Because when that home,
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because all those springs that come out on
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And we're just fortunate the rest of the
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that those springs all come underneath the road and come out at the river. That's just such a low area. So if there's a environmentally acceptable solution to that piece of property, that
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if it's not, I think it's going to come back and haunt you all as a council when they want to develop it because it's going to be hard to do. I can remember when you had to close the apartments up there in Dixon because they couldn't flush their toilets. So those springs are going to be there. And that's that's the only
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to be compensated, but uh somehow I think it's going to be a problem for you that could have a good solution. So thank you. That's all I've got to say.
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How's it going? Yeah, I
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just want to bring it back a little bit to my main point of my ask. um Certainly uh there was some inspiration by a
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but my proposal isn't specifically for one property. We have multiple locations throughout the city with sensitive, environmentally sensitive ‸ properties. um So this isn't in regards to a certain property. um I am in favor i am in favor of tabling this in in order to save this initiative because I think this is something good um to give staff a chance. And it doesn't have to be even at the next meeting just so you guys can uh gather a very informed uh information to give to the council in regards to the EELS program and also on the uh wetland mitigation uh bank uh
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Councilwoman Cost Reference. um So I am in favor of tabling that uh if staff is uh have the ability to gather that information and bring ‸ back to the council. uh It doesn't have to be at the next council meeting. I just wanted, you know, I don't want it to be a year from now, but I want you guys to have ample time to gather all the information to present to us. um Again, my ask isn't for one particular property. We have multiple properties throughout
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um And for further clarification, I'm not proposing taking anyone's property.
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um
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uh ‸ My motion is the table. My ask uh to direct staff to bring back to the council more information on how the EELS program works and how we could possibly go after funding from that. um As well as uh bring more information for the council on uh wetland mitigation banks. And if that's something that we, that will be feasible in the city of
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Second.
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You have a motion by
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but I, I, I, ‸ okay. And that we're up for discussion. Correct.
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a couple ‸ things, we have on which we all do. um time. ‸ That's the first thing. Secondly, um I think it has been revealed that we know we could eloquently state here. um it wasn't designated for a specific area for a specific area, but it was identified tonight. And I have a problem with that because when you own your own property and you have people wanting to control your property and then it's your private property. uh I'm not in favor of that.
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and paint it any kind of way you want. The bottom line, if it's my property and I meet the guidelines and the criteria and I'm with within within the framework of the law, then I should have that right to exercise my property rights, period, point blank. That's my assessment. uh Council
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your friend is
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my proposal isn't to one specific property. I, as Council know, I had a meet and greet off Indian River Drive where I spoke to the the my constituents in District
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and this idea was brought up to me by my constituents. So, I'm bringing to the dais the concerns and wants that my constituents would love to see in the
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However, we cannot just go out and take anyone's property. So, what I'm doing, I'm being proactive by proposing proposing something that we can utilize in the
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may come up and identified as
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property. ‸ you take that property off, and then I'll have a stronger recommendation and consideration for this ecological balance that you all are describing to us that uh it doesn't really meet the criteria. At this
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current time, my motion is for staff to bring back more information on programs that we already may have in
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So, I will bet you a dollar to a donut that
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I guarantee ‸ Because it's already been identified by two individuals already. And
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know, taking a stance on it. That's all. If it's done decent in order, I
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problem with it. But that's not decent in it or That's all. Councilman
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sir.
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um i had I had something
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now. But um I do understand that you, at the end of the day, we're listening to our constituents. And when extension was bringing you issues, hey, you're gonna ‸ bring it to the table. So, I can i can appreciate that point. but But to the mayor's point, um thank you to to miss Smith for for making that point. I think we all, like again, just like the mayor said, we all have had this conversation before. We've had multiple residents come in with issues with not only that property, but a property um to the south of that property. um And and so, it is to me, when we talk, I'm not an environmental guy. I
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i I do all those things. But also we have to be able to trust engineering. But we only want to trust engineering when it's convenient for what we want. That's the issue that I'm having because, okay,
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you have mitigation on this particular property. You cannot build on
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still people going to have issues with that. And so you can't please everybody at the end of the day. And so if, if and I'm not sure, um how how many acres can they build on that piece of property? Anybody have that answer?
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That property is not what we're discussing. But
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I could provide that perhaps at a separate
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Okay. okay
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‸ Point taken. Yeah. Point
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taken. Point taken. um So i I'm going to vote yes to to postpone it um for now uh for more information, but I just wanted to make that point. uh And it's under reviewer as we
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this time. So.
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So, and then I know she's Councilwoman
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going to say that uh
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So my motion is to, uh table my proposal, uh to drop the letter up to the governor, uh and direct staff. To bring back more information to the council on the eels program at the county. And as well as bring back information on how wetland mitigation banks work. And if it's something that can be
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multiple requests. if you want to table it? Just table it. And then we can make a decision. Then you can come back and ask to make, you
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it's all, ‸ it's like uh we're in conjunction. I
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yes sir already seconded?
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Okay. So the motion's on the floor, mayor, and needs to be dispensed with.
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but But what I'm saying is he's wanting to table it, but then he wants to get additional information. I'm just. Well,
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I mean, that's if the council wants to table an item and give direction to provide additional information. um
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base,
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you know, and to gather additional information ‸ it'll be put back on an agenda uh at
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requesting of additional information. That's frequently the the case when
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‸ seems like it needs to be further developed and more research and background provided to the council at the appropriate time so you can discuss it a little bit more specifically.
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Okay. We have a motion on the floor. Just gonna ‸ call in question. All in favor by saying aye. Aye. That we table this. Correct. Yes, sir. And
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get more information.
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That's what I would like to hear. Thank you. I'm in favor of it. It's unanimous vote. Proceeding on to the next item item number two.
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Mr. Mayor, before you leave this one, I ‸ didn't want to get in the way of your of your
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on this. The
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program is pretty easy to get you the information. I'll just send you the link. um I don't think
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there the The tax, the special tax, I think, is uh remains there to pay off the debt and to uh and to maintain those uh those properties that are already in inventory. um ‸ There are, and and and again, I've asked the question about mitigation banks there. You have to have land to actually do the banks ‸ It's a convoluted, long, drawn out process. There are hundreds of acres of mitigation banks uh in
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there. I know that for sure because i I've talked with the um the assistant uh county manager who's in charge of that particular area there. Again, I will caution you caution you all about um the property that has a site plan submitted um on on the corner of uh Dixon and Indian River. um And so those are those are pretty easy things to get uh to you guys because it's just links to the
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program. And then it'll be a link to the uh to uh
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um Your comprehensive plan actually does define environmentally and environmentally sensitive areas
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it says conserve protect and uh and appropriately manage the natural resources and
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quality possible. And it gives a it says environmentally sensitive areas at a minimum environmentally sensitive areas shall contain one of one or more of the following natural resources and it goes a through F. uh That policy that goal also prescribes that we coordinate with appropriate governmental entities to protect environmentally and environmentally sensitive lands which extend into adjacent municipalities.
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So the information is either in your comp plan
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and online with regards to the EELS program and the St. John's Water Management District program. So I'll be able to quickly get you that
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know that that will move the needle for you because, again, I don't think, and I'll talk to Mike Knight about this, I don't think that
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phase of that program. I think they're on the under the uh the maintenance phase of that, but we have to get you that information.
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It's a process by the way.
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And we were concerned about that many years ago so that we would have to purchase property elsewhere throughout the state of Florida. And even like you alluded to,
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that's a bank for us. So that is the reason why I'm still having reservation and hesitation.
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to say that the
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program is not an acquisition. They have their eye on a property right now. It's a process ‸ you just
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have an advisory board. Yes, ‸ That looks at the priorities. Yes,
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in our past in 1990. And I got to the county in 1994 and spent 23 years there. So, yeah, I understand. I don't, I don't know that any, that they're reviewing any of the properties on our inventory, but that's an easy enough question. Mitigation banks are actually set up, I think, by the uh St. John's Water Management District.
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those out to you. So it's pretty easy information, but but again i again, I still don't know that that moves you guys further to
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sponsorship of the Space Coast Black Chamber
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easier ask. So, um as you know, the Space Coast uh Black
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of Commerce has been a
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many initiatives in bringing business businesses, small businesses to
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and they're also recognizing uh some of the small business uh startup owners
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um So, I'm asking that we, uh if Council agreed to purchase a table, a sponsorship table, uh to this event.
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uh
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‸ how
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much is
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this sponsorship thing?
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uh Where is this? I believe I
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had
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an email.
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uh ‸ 1500 did you get that email
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uh would be reserved for all the council members to attend, if you
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the 24th
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Yes, ma'am. ‸ I
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seconded it.
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If
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we got,
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know Mayor Blake won't be here. I won't be here.
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I'll be here on the 24th.
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Okay, you'll be good. Okay. So you think
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be better off instead of the person to the table, we just do a sponsorship.
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So
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won't have a table with, because that's what happened to me last time where people was out of town. And we had a table, but I was ‸ the table. Well,
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think also in the sponsorship, it also pays for our membership as a city ‸ to the chambers as well. That's included in it ‸ as well.
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Right.
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‸ But I'm cool with it. But I
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want to point that out, that
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not there.
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also looks bad, too.
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Right. So I'll be there for sure. And as I stated, this also will cover ‸ the city's membership as part of the chambers, as a member of the chamber as well. So, um,
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yes, I'm definitely positive. Positive on that. We have a motion on the floor. I do support this. I do have some concerns and reservations, so I'm going
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call the question. Let me make sure. So you're saying $1,400. It's going to be $1,500.
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24th.
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Thank you.
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At 6 p.m.
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Yeah.
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All right. We have a motion on the floor by Deputy Mayor
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to observe the cost of $1,500 on the 24th to support the Chamber of Commerce.
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‸ All in favor say hi. Hi.
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the record reflect 3-1. I do support the Chamber of Commerce, the Black Chamber of Commerce. I just have some concerns. I know I'm not in town. And I still could independently, you know, if I decide to make a donation. All right. Proceeding on the next item. Under City Business. No.
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You have item number 7-3. Yes, sir. Let me, do you want me to read it over? No, no, that's fine. Background check. Yeah, you can.
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off for the agenda item.
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supervision training and equipping all of the participants.
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Elaborate and, yes, I'm in support of safety and participation of all participants. That's very important. The partner agreement that we have, excuse me, sir, recreation partner agreement we have with the county or where do we stand currently with that, sir?
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Yeah, so we recall that you guys just approved the, uh, the parks operating agreement. And so we have that agreement for each, uh, organization that wants to have organized, I'll say organized activities within a park, they enter into a, uh,
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rec partner agreement. And so that's a non-exclusive agreement that gives them use of the facilities. Um,
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can forward to you all. It gives them, uh, non-exclusive use of the facilities. They have certain obligations. Um, the county has certain obligations. The county enters into that on behalf of the, of the district cities. So remember the district
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then
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uh, specifically this, this district, the district
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number of other districts. Um, and so they bring these rec
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uh,
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which consists of a representative from the city, uh,
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the county, and then
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And so it's a way of actually, uh, setting the rules in place for the, uh, organizations who utilize the, uh, the, the facilities there. Um, what you read on the agenda report is a section of the, um, the agreement that says that it is a responsibility of the organization to provide for the safety of the participants. Um, and so this is an issue. We live in a different day and time. Um, and so, uh, with the, with the little league events there, and, and I'm pretty sure we're only talking about the little league events at, at, um, wherever we have rec partner agreements at our city parks there. And so,
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is that to require, um, through an amendment of the agreement, which we'd have to reach out to the county and ask them to amend it or to just simply say that, um, and again, I'll talk with
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how we actually, um,
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codify this, uh, to say that
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organizations who have rec partner agreements, the city council is requiring that you have, uh, some sort of law enforcement detail for the games, uh, slash events that you're putting on, uh, for that particular day.
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If, if we have law enforcement there at the game, I'm just asking, who absorbs that cost?
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Okay. I just want to point a clarification. And if they do not provide that,
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what
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Then it can forfeit their rec partner agreement.
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mean, what, say for example, if, well, I've never really seen a situation where, um, an organization, which is a nonprofit, hires a, uh, off duty detail, say one officer, I think it might end up being just say 350 bucks and they just not pay it.
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that before, but. I mean, I'm sure
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it has happened, but, uh, we just have to come up with a plan to, to be able to address it. Okay. If it does come up, but rarely does that happen here. Yeah. My thought
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process is, is that the council, if you direct tonight, you're actually directing me to advise the, uh, county parks and rec director that you all believe that the rec partner agreement should be amended to require the rec partner, the organization, the contractor to provide for security for their, uh, events, their games. We, we only have two, uh, rec partners. I think those are just in the sport of a football. So, so they would be required to provide, um, uh, law enforcement security. Should I be calling it security chief? Probably.
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If, if you're
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law enforcement, I mean,
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going to give them the option as far as ‸ that they want to hire security?
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that's,
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that's the question. I think so.
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is sworn law enforcement.
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payable by the organization for the entirety of their games. And so, so
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this thought is really, uh, trying to be proactive. Um, we have been reactive on many different things and just like last year,
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situation have happened at a certain part. Um,
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then we get called and now we in the uproar and trying to rush and do all these different things. Um, if you recall at the last, uh, budget hearing, um, I asked for a meeting, but we did not as a council really direct, um, our city manager to do it. We didn't motion it. We didn't do ‸ the proper things to get it done. And so I blame myself for that.
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we're going to get blamed for anything that happens at provost park or Australia or wherever else. So, uh, I make, I make, so, so this, this what I, ‸ I'm gonna
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this what we do at the park that I'm a part of. If there's five games played on that particular Saturday or Sunday or whatever game day that is, is one officer. Um, and if they start at nine o'clock in the morning, I'm not saying nine o'clock in the morning, officer need to be there. Most of the time situations happen from, uh, 11 a.m. In between that last game, the 11 to five areas. So six hours, five hours, whatever
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two officers need to be hired. And so I want to put that stipulation in there.
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number one, it protects us. Uh,
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changed. Everybody not smiling and laughing no more.
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They, they, they kind of street the game of football like the streets. Um, and that's, what's going on. Um, ‸ be honest with you right now. And so I'd rather be in front of it instead of behind ‸ eight ball. And also,
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it'll
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help our officers out because I believe our officers need that off detail as well.
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So, um,
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I second that motion to amend my motion to reflect yours, but I have the city light, but I want to make sure you exhaust that ‸ because you're right, sir.
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is a brand new stadium. We have to get it right. You know, they're watching. We're under the microscope. We're under the magnifying glass. Let's be honest. This is just a big elephant in the room and there are some haters out there, but it can be done and it will be done.
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or I'm just a student.
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Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor. And so just so I make sure that we're on the same page.
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partner agreements in place to require, um, um, law enforcement,
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one officer, five or more
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games, two officers. Okay. Five or more games, two officers, five or less games, one officer, um, make that a requirement, uh, of the rec partner agreement. And I'm assuming that, um, we don't want to go as far as to say if, if the, if the rec partner is not amenable to that, uh, amendment, then your request would be for the county to terminate the agreement with the rec
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I
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don't think we need to give them an option.
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rec partners choose our parks to be in our parks. And so when you choose to be in our parks, working with our kids, then I think that
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with great responsibility. And so within that responsibility comes sometimes
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cost.
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And so you, you charge the kids in some cases, uh, donations come in for game day sponsorships. So you need to do whatever you need to do to make sure that your kids at your park are safe.
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That's it. And so they, okay.
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No. If, if they do not, they get one time and you're out or.
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on that.
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got my own opinion about that. They shouldn't. I just say they shouldn't even argue about that point. Um, because again, I'll just be frank.
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And what happens is when you don't have an officer there, you have to call 911.
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time frame? So you have about
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20 minutes or so of that movement. And
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we don't need it. Luckily, PD is right down the road. Um, but having that officer there deters people from acting a fool because they see that cop car. They see, they just know that they don't want to they
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don't want that problem. And so, um, again, I think we just need to be proactive.
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effective immediately because yeah, this is Tuesday. Remember there are probably games on Saturday. So, so I have to get the, get the, uh, the request out tomorrow morning.
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Yep.
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Um, so effective immediately. If they can't mobilize, uh, that quickly, the, the two organizations, um,
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Or do you want me to work something out with the police chief for, for
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Saturday? Well, just, just, just,
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in my opinion, we just went through this last year, um, at
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to be,
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was practice maybe once or twice, but then it was game days as well for the remaining of the season. Yes.
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Okay.
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And so my, that was my purpose of bringing this forward in July. Um, again, I knew this time was coming fast. I apologize for not making the motion like I should have.
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going to come down the pike because we just, they just had to pay for this six months ago. And so, um, maybe you can give some grace. That's up to ‸ the council on that part. But I mean, I'm standing firm on, on, uh, off duty officers.
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‸ I'm definitely, uh, in favor of your motion. Um, I would also be in favor if we could work something out with PD for this coming Saturday with the short notice. Um, however, I don't think we'll have any issues with the partners adhering to the, uh,
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uh,
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the ordinance that we're proposing,
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uh,
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right now ‸ I coach football as well. I, I haven't been to a field where they don't have, uh, law enforcement, uh, patrolling.
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to them, I don't think we'll have any issues with them adhering to that. So,
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yeah,
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I'm just curious what the expenses and so the cocoa athletic league, are they, I mean, from what I understand, they operate at the margins. So we're not making anything prohibitive, right?
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What's, what's our early detailed costs? Samantha,
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got the top of your head?
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$50 an hour.
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police officer.
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charge more for a commander.
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If it's a commander, I think it's 55 an hour, but just a regular police
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officers
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50.
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And if, if it's
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‸ Guess, you know better than I.
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I mean, there are, ‸ there are, there are costs.
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There are costs.
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businesses. You have certain things that ways that you can, uh, raise those funds.
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of your kids, which, but also we do know that there are some kids that can't afford it and things of that nature. Um, but you have to be able to control your parents and or coaches. Yeah. And the issue is no one can.
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Yeah.
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You just, you just don't know what's going on in the, in the community. You don't know who messing with who girlfriend. You don't know. You don't know what can transpire away from the field that end up spilling on the field in some cases. You know what I mean? And so we haven't had a whole lot of issues, but I just think that this could help all of us not get those phone calls and we can kind of rest easy to know that CPD is already there. You know what I mean? Just in my opinion.
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City Manager, do you understand the direction that we have? I know we have a game that's up and coming.
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I trust your negotiation skills and process, whatever that agreement may be. Um, let's work through that, but saying after that first grade, that grace period, I think
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we should apply immediately. Um, I'm 100% with you
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at all costs. Because there again,
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we're
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under the magnifying glass,
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trust me,
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and the microscope. So we get you both. so
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So this is for uh youth sports because we have we have other rec partners. We have a soccer, lacrosse, rugby
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i know we do have soccer. I'm pretty sure we have soccer leagues. We have rugby for sure.
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right So
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yeah that could start somewhere
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yeah i I think that's a good
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youth organizations coming back saying, well, we're not the only rec partners inside the parks. And you're not. it Even though we know we haven't had reports, too many reports, and maybe Chief can bring that back at a later day of
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of the parks is the uh
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But uh yeah
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I just want to make a comment. um And I understand your concerns. Yeah.
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But
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I've coached youth sports for uh
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about 10 or 15 years. Yeah. And typically when you have an issue at some of those games, it's always or somewhat of one of those rival type games. And so, you know, to require that for every game for for the youth, unless something has changed where they got a plethora of funds.
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yes
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So to to your point, so most more than likely, those two partners have five home games. right And so, um and
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it
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may make they may have a playoff game or something like that, something of that nature. But normally it's just normally five to maybe six total. um But currently that's what
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but they also said ‸ you better do it without saying it. And so that's what we do because we've had issues as well. And some things out of our control is just, you know, just stuff just happened between just relationships and you just don't know. And so you want to be able to control that, that environment. So, yes, so, so to your point,
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yes, things
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have changed a whole lot, to
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honest. And the game usually is two hours or? uh Usually it's an hour and a half per game. So
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So which is, if
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you say 50 to 300 bucks. Okay. So it's, it's, so they, the the law enforcement presence will be there at a, you know, I'll come up
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a period of time after the end of the game. Yep. Okay. Thank you.
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like that. Yeah. okay
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um the manager shared, um a rec partner agreement with me, um earlier, uh before the meeting and I'm looking it over, um you know, there is an
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in there that obviously protects the county. Interestingly, there's, there's another paragraph that protects the school board when, when the, when, when it occurs on school board property. But,
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So included in that request to amend for law enforcement officers, I would recommend, uh asking the county to also include an indemnity and hold harmless provision for the city of
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since the city of
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owns the land. And also, add the city of
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as an additional named insured on the contractor's insurance, which is likewise, provided, um to the county. So
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‸ Thank
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you, Mr. Mayor. This is an annual agenda item that we bring to city council
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They normally do a revenue sufficiency study each year and review the results with city council individually and then once that's complete and
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we have a lot of
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bring it back for acceptance. This year they determined that only a 2% increase in utility rates was needed as opposed to a 4% ‸ rate increase. So there's currently a resolution in place that says it the 4% will continue for so many years and because the increase is being reduced. This resolution is necessary to supersede the previous resolution. However, we are asking for the 4% to be reinstated in fiscal year 26 unless Stan tech comes back and determines that the 4% isn't needed at which time we'll be presenting another resolution ‸ to supersede for budget year 26. So staff is requesting council approval to approve this resolution.
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Do we have any questions for Mrs. Bowman? Seeing none, I'll take the lead on this one. What ‸ wishes of council? If not, ‸ make the motion to approve staff recommendation pertaining to the resolution.
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Second by Deputy Mayor Hearn.
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Aye. We have ‸ unanimous vote. Proceeding on to item number 8-2. Approve the preliminary assessment resolution 2024-071 for
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protection for fiscal year 2025. Mrs. Bowman.
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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Once again, we hire Stan tech to perform an assessment of the, um, a review of the, uh, fire assessment each year. Uh, they determined that there was an increase that was needed, which is a 4% increase, 3% increase, um, for next fiscal year. And so, um, this is adopting the preliminary resolution to, um, incur those rates. And then, uh, the, at the next meeting, the final resolution will be brought back to council.
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Do we have any questions for Mrs. Bowman?
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Second.
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Aye. Aye.
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Once again, approve the
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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So once again,
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uh,
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is needed to support the stormwater utility. Um, again, they met with city council members to review the results. And so this preliminary
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brought back for a final resolution at the next city council meeting.
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What are the wishes of council? Uh, can
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I ask a question?
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me a second. We have a motion on
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Yeah, I wanted to ask, is it the stormwater plan is a 10 year plan, right?
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Yes.
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Does it, do we, at the end of 10 years, do we renew, does this automatically renew the assessment? Or do we present a new plan or how does that work?
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So, uh, staff is looking at, uh, possibly, uh,
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contracting services, uh, to develop a new, uh, 10 year plan, uh, next fiscal year.
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Okay, next year and
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Yes. Okay. Okay. Thank you.
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Four corners.
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update.
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Yes. Thank you,
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Mayor. Sir.
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Um, tonight we're gonna go ‸ over, uh, update on the visioning session. That was done, uh, back in June. Um, give
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presented. I think all of you were there, um, at the workshop. Um, so
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give you a,
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just a brief reminder of what the work is all about. What was presented, um, feedback we received and then recommended next steps. Uh, ‸ so just as, uh, ‸ some background, um, RBI was asked by staff to do a review.
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and state or five 20 generally shown
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the area on the map shown on
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one to five 20 goes west to Fisk. Um, and then a little bit north of, uh, of King street, uh, and the us one intersection.
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specific area where the zoning districts don't comply
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it creates a consistency issue, which creates issues with permitting and redevelopment opportunities. As part of that analysis,
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It's the intersection, um, of two CRAs.
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course, this cocoa CRA and the diamond square acts as an entrance into cocoa village. Really an entrance into the city of cocoa itself. And so it was chosen as the starting point of the overall visioning process. Uh, the four corners, again, generally
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There are 22 parcels in that intersection with six different property owners.
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an existing conditions review of the four corners and ‸ understand through that analysis how the mixed use vision, which is the future land use designation of these parcels
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And if there are gaps in the vision, create opportunities for a shared theme in the intersection and throughout the entire corridor. So we provided to the, to the audience and the staff, you know, what does urban mixed use mean? Uh, graphically, you know, this is kind of a general image, uh, where you can kind of get a good idea of, of dense urban development where you ideally have a vertically integrated mixed use building, of varying densities dependent on, um, size of your property and other bulk zoning requirements.
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is different. All situations are different as far as
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So this image is meant to show a best case scenario. Now, having said that all the properties within the study area have a zoning district of CP commercial parkway, which is mainly focused on, uh, ‸ commercial uses fronting a main highway and the uses that are permitted in that CP are, are generally a very auto oriented type of, uh, use.
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not really a zoning district that encourages or brings in mixed use development. Uh, and so what does that mean? Auto oriented development? Well, this is kind of a tongue in cheek image, of course. Um, but you could extend auto oriented development to mean
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far from the street. You have parking in the front.
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not pedestrian friendly, and you may have uses that are specifically auto oriented ‸ car washes, drive through restaurants, things of that nature, gas stations and the like. And so CP, when you look at your comp plan, it's not a zoning district that is compatible with the mixed use future land use. And it certainly doesn't encourage the mixture of uses or uses that are pedestrian oriented, uh,
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Um, of importance to point out here in this intersection, too, is there's some challenges with the right of way.
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feet wide. Only half of it is improved at this point. So that really impacts the pedestrian nature of the corridor.
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how you improve the right of way, how you may not be able to. Um, it's something that, you know, is being looked at a little bit closer as we've seen, uh, pre application meetings come in for development at the intersection. Having said that, it does allow for opportunities though for pedestrian ‸ multimodal improvements and I'll get to that in a few minutes. So just, uh, overall existing condition analysis, the intersection struggles with
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uses that are not ‸ a pedestrian scale. They don't encourage walkability. Um, it's not all because of the existing buildings.
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with the right of way with traffic counts and railroad infrastructure, it's difficult to create a pedestrian scale environment that you might see in a mixed use neighborhood. Um, so knowing that the
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and there's existing conditions that create challenges to that, we want to figure out, um, what real world strategies are out there that may help the aesthetics of the corridor, um, which then could improve the design and uses of the area. So we showed, um, an existing condition out in Orlando at 50 and Fern Creek, where you have two pretty standard, um, nationwide uses. And we did an exercise with those that attended to say, Hey, what do you see or not see in this image? And what do you think is a little bit different, um, from what you might see from your typical, in this case, Starbucks. Um, and this being a more urban environment building was brought to the street. There is nice foundational landscaping.
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building architecture is done in a manner that might be slightly different than a more auto oriented, uh, type of coffee shop. Uh, ‸ we have large window finishes that are facing the street, which improves pedestrian safety. Eyes on the street is a big, um, urbanism theory type of thing. And that improves the safety of a, of a street for pedestrians and general users of a neighborhood.
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this specific Starbucks does have a drive through. It's behind the building. Um, so it's hidden from the main thoroughfare, the main arterial. And then even on the secondary street,
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can see here, it's hidden through landscape treatments that are appropriately designed to not interfere with the overhead power lines. You can see there's
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a manner to, uh, be done in a contextually sensitive way. And then they also had a stem wall, uh, which helps block, um, lights from the cars.
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to ‸ show how some, uh, typical auto oriented uses can be designed in a manner that are more pedestrian friendly, help create a more urban environment. And just, uh, from an aesthetics point of view, buildings are done in a manner that are more pleasing in a more urban manner.
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And so we took each site and did a 3d render of a variety of different uses, um, throughout the corridor to show, Hey, what can happen if you identify architectural themes that you want to bring in, you want to change your set back requirements. maybe your landscape requirements to encourage, you know, something that's a little bit more inviting, something that improves and increases property value, something that activates right-of-way areas that may not be utilized to their full potential right now I'll go back a couple slides what I enjoyed about this slide is our our render person added in a bus shelter and meandering sidewalk here because there is there is a
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but she moved it over here to 520 and and I asked her to kind of you know add some embellishment to the landscape to show how, you know, if the right-of-way is
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for the community ‸ And she did those types of right-of-way treatments
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So, what happened at the workshop? We sent out 1800 public notices in conjunction with staff and included the flyer here that staff put together there was also a city Facebook event that was made on the city's Facebook page
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the workshop in person. There was about two dozen that attended online.
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for ideas and solutions that's for streetscape land use mobility and urban design.
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some of the talking points. So, happy to share this information here with you tonight. ‸ When you talk about land use, you can see the variety of ‸ sticker placements on this board. And this was a, this is a scan of the board that was at the meeting. And on the left side of this slide are some of the talking points, some of the feedback we received. Some of it was very specific. You can see this first bullet point, an actual specific idea for a restaurant that had a basically a
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a certain type of theme that mirrored a restaurant that was previously adjacent to the railroad tracks also received some feedback that auto-oriented uses could be okay
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well buffered the screen from the road. So they're attractive enhanced with building ‸ architectural standards. That's kind of where we're headed to with that type of conversation. is
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which that's inevitable, if they're designed it in a certain manner, it can be an asset to the community. So you can see some of the feedback. you know At the top left, there's a lot of density going on there, but really nice building treatments, landscape treatments, and you can see as you go down the board, some pretty very some pretty specific negative reactions to certain uses and some positives on what I think are just mainly related to retail uses, restaurant uses, and building designs that reflect nicely on the community.
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There's also a feedback that encouraged
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the residential above retail office and the neighborhood based small-scale retail and service spaces are also ideal, especially in that specific intersection Now, when it came to mobility, there was a lot of support for using the right-of-way to move sidewalks further from the travel lanes, at landscape buffers ‸ create ‸ more pedestrian friendly environment, but they're also sense of sensitive to the fact that the roadways are pretty heavily trafficked by cars that connect the region, so it's also going to have to remain vehicle friendly So there's strategies that
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into your right-of-way improvements, and you can see the feedback ‸ received here was really great. You know, these are all pretty modern mobility type of ideas with bike share. Bike lanes,
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modern, but how you stripe them and how you place them into the fabric of the right-of-way is, there's a lot of unique ways to do that. ‸ For Streetscape,
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to connect Stone Street across ‸ railroad track, and then there was also the flip of that, where it was not a supportive idea because ‸ the aesthetics and the practical issues of trucks and transportation to the through the intersection. Pedestrian overpasses in general, very expensive to undertake, takes a lot of coordination between multiple different agencies.
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Brevard as well, where they can be done, but it's it's a bit of an undertaking. You could see the feedback
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based on the imagery we provided, which are features we would encourage in this intersection and in the corridor. We came to urban design. Urban design, it was very clear, those in attendance want high quality building architecture, they want the buildings brought to the street they want cars to be hidden I mean you can just see it you know the bullet points on the left side there allow variety of uses enhance US 1 to 520 include pedestrian safety improvements, landscape buffering needs to be improved. And then the last bullet point on this specific
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the results of the workshop next week and then just a little bit of, you know, kind of back and forth when it comes to density is not wanting to exceed the three-story building heights. And that's always a tough one, building height, density, mixture of uses, usually mixed use, vertically integrated. You want height to achieve the financing that's needed for those types of buildings. So that's something to be
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There ‸ again, ‸ allowing for rooftop entertainment, certain types of architecture, and then using, again,
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of other cities that have done these types of exercises.
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was one specific example,
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this type of work.
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my attention that the area should represent the
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and that one caught me by surprise because I I see this
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beach or to Merritt Island specifically. This is a very cocoa centric intersection that focus should really just be
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about the pedestrian overpass, and extending the visioning to the north side of 520. Now, that's an interesting point because there is no zoning land use issue on the north side of 520. And
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that's kind of the next phase of this exercise. So ‸ something we're going to talk to staff about ‸ because if you're going to do a proper corridor study, you, of course, want both sides of the street to be included. So that might be more of a design related discussion, less a solution based item related to zoning and land use inconsistencies so as I mentioned our upcoming meeting is ‸ this coming Monday to the Diamond Square CRA but we do have a recommendation for the council and we are looking for a request on direction on on to where to go with this. And so first off, ‸ summary of
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that the mixed use future land use and the goals and goals and policies of the mixed use and the comp plan are the way to go in the corridor. That being said, the current zoning districts that regulate the the parcels are not structured in a manner to support the mixture of uses. And that goes to setbacks, permitted uses, building heights, etc ‸ And there are at least two commercial districts that exist within the corridor that are not compliant with the mixed use future land use. So we have five recommendations as a result of the workshop. The first would be to update the comprehensive plan to include the CP commercial Parkway as an applicable zoning district within the mixed use future land use designation in the comp plan. ‸ Currently it is not. And
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is that you have a zoning district that is not compatible with the land use. So
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That being said, as a second step, create a four corners overlay that provides zoning standards that support a mixed-use pedestrian and friendly environment. Those, so the overlay would include incorporation of specific design standards relating to building architecture, site landscaping, build landscape buffers, ‸ location of the building, parking, building heights, and site access. And then
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prohibited uses within the overlay. So the zoning sort of becomes secondary and the governing factor would ‸ be the overlay itself. So you can create something unique just to that intersection
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The imagery we showed you showed a number of improvements in the right of way to enhance pedestrian environment enhance public transit that would take coordination with D.O.T. In conjunction of that coordinate with Space Coast area transit on bus shelter improvements and encourage use of the public transit infrastructure that is already out there and so that's where the bus shelters come into play.
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corners so that initial map showed area that went over to Fisk as I mentioned on the south side of 520 we could take what we do here as a framework and start to find the solutions for the remainder of the corridor which may include looking at the north side from a design perspective. ‸ So that is the conclusion of the presentation happy to take any questions you may have but as a reminder we are looking for direction on those five items this evening.
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they have uses that they actually that they absolutely do not favor it's okay for them to say so and give you that direction tonight also.
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‸ Yes, sir, we would we would request that that direction be given this evening that way for example for one and two that would kick off a comp plan amendment process and a land development code update. So if there are specific things that you want to see put in there if you wouldn't mind letting us know this evening and we'll coordinate with staff to make sure they are brought back to you accordingly.
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I mean. Yeah,
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so so and so to be clear if there are uses like. Steve should I throw out examples now
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I mean. Yeah, any you know if there's if there are uses that are currently permitted in the CP or any other commercial parkway or rather commercial zoning districts that are heavily auto oriented that you want to stray from since we're trying to try and create a mixed use environment. Now would be
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mention that if there's building heights that you want us to look into density requirements you want us to look into now would be the time to give us that direction. I
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Looking at one through five recommendation. Must we include all five or can we do one out of the five, two out of three? I'm just trying to make sure. But to me personally, I like all five.
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It can be phased. It'll be phased either way. But we could certainly break it down even further if need be.
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as well as any opportunities for private sector improvements on those topics. So with that being said, if you're going to have that conversation with FDOT, I would like to suggest the possible proposal of a pedestrian bridge across the State Road 520 is just a suggestion when speaking with FDOT along those topics.
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already been included in your future discussions that you're going to have with F dot That's it understood. Thank you
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to say that I no one wants a car wash
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We had did have some community members come out to force their opinions when another car wash tried to come in Yeah, so that's probably the only thing that I would have so ‸ I made a motion that we
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discussion Yeah,
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I the this recommendation is not in our package
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I assumed when it said it didn't say anything about recommendation I assumed that it was going to be the same thing I'd already seen so I didn't really had an opportunity um Um to think about this more but I mean I'm certainly am not opposed to any of the recommendations I see here um, I think that Good luck with the coordinating with the Space Coast Area Transit um, I'm hopeful And um FDOT has
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well I'm all for that um, but I know that's a big ticket item that Has to be put on a list somewhere and works its way to the top Yeah, um just to not have any smoke shops either
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Um, you know an abc store we don't want that I I mean I would just rather not I would just rather
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i'm just going I'm gonna leave it up to you all to bring us back multiple options
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I got
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one one quick question for steve steve
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Seem to be neighborhood based small scale retail service based uses right right is that what you're recommending? I
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move forward with an overlay and What about
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uses that the council just said and not What they want to see right so would we be amending the cp zoning district as a result of that or
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so the thought was that We would to avoid the conflict it would we would move the cp into the mixed use and then that overlay would act as really is the the ‸ enforcement factor for the for that intersection. And so your zoning really almost becomes somewhat irrelevant. You're you're consistent with your land use but when it comes to your permitted and prohibited uses you're going to the overlay Okay for that information
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‸ like the overlay your your your recommendation is those
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We're going to call the question all in favor say aye aye aye we have unanimous vote
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let me ask a question does anyone need a recess before we conclude this? I'm just
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Because then we have reports now Approved resolution 2024-077, adopting a revised fee schedule. Thank you sir for planning and zoning a lot split applications and community development district review for new developments within the city of coco
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of us and I think your wish has been granted. uh Mr. City Manager, and I know you miss Jan. I'm coming to you.
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bringing this back because uh obviously development should pay for itself there. And so So these are our recommendations with regards to
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now and then i think we also have a CDD uh fee in there also.
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Well, good evening, everyone. Mr. Mayor and council members and staff. I'm Jen Webster, city planner here at the city of
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And so I just have a few quick statements as described in your staff report regarding this resolution. The proposed resolution introduces fees for the city's new lot split application process established by
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council. Additionally, it establishes a new fee for the community development district review as per florida statute section 109.005 which is typically typically used in planned communities and large developments. The review of a community development district by legal staff involves a comprehensive examination of various aspects related to the establishment and operation. of The district. This fee is, as I mentioned, established in the Florida statutes and is comparable to other municipalities review
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asking, a lot split
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a lot split for ‸ residential single family, uh would be 500 plus
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fees for a multi-family and non-residential lot split would be 1250 plus
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for the community development district fee would be 15 000 for that review.
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unanimously Okay. This concludes tonight's, um council meeting. um reports. Great job, staff. Seriously. I know it's been ‸ long and tedious. I did. I understand it perfectly. Trust me, your works are
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of this upcoming
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to education, and so forth.
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i thank you for being a good and thank
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a reminder and then before she gets there um uh
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um I didn't give you all the recommendation on the uh on the, uh
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the priority or the ranking committee. And so I would recommend that that um consist of it's in the cra I would recommend that
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um a designee by the city manager. So it would be a three-person committee that would rank and send that that uh that ranking up to uh up to the council. We're preparing to release the RFP probably sometime next week. um So that'll that'll be on the street sometime next week. um So I just needed to clean up that item. And so if the council doesn't have any objections, then we'll set that as
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I needed to clean up or Rebecca with regards to that? rfp
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just real quick.
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is due Friday at noon in the city clerk's office.
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And so if anybody else has, anybody else has a report, i I didn't bring my listing down, but I'm not sure. You got something. Yeah,
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sorry. I apologize. I'll be fast. um I just wanted to do a quick recap. We had our back to school supply drive event on August 2nd on Friday. We had a great turnout. We gave out all the backpacks. um We over 100 backpacks. We partnered with some of our local um food trucks in the area and they gave out free food to all of the people that were there. There was um
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and hot dogs and just lots of stuff for for everybody. uh jerk Flavors gave out um
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free meals at the event. um We had bike helmets from the Space Coast TPO. um So lots of great stuff, gave out lots of items. And hopefully we will grow it next year and hopefully get some more supplies that we can hand out to the community. So it was a really good event. um ‸ I just wanted to do a quick reminder. We have the Travis center computer lab that is doing ‸ we're doing a grand opening for that on friday august 23rd at 10 a.m at the Travis Center. And then we are partnering with the historic Cocoa Village Main Street to do the small business conference on monday august 26th at 8 30 a.m at the coco civic center um This is for small businesses that are interested in learning a little bit more about business development, um marketing, those types ‸ of things. So it's a full day summit for them. And that is on Monday, August 26th at the Civic Center. in cocoa village
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mr mayor did you want me to report out on the dc trip
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and so as as the council is aware uh we had a delegation that included uh the mayor uh chairman steel from the
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county board of county commissioners uh chairman um lloyd from the Port Authority, um Linda Weatherman from the uh EDC, uh ‸ Georgiana
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Ketchum from Space Florida, Mike Miller from uh ‸ Space Florida, um and then Brightline representatives. uh um And I think I don't think I missed anybody uh
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uh at 7 a.m on tuesday morning and uh arrived in dc in the first meeting. Arrived in dc approximately uh 9 50 and got to the to the uh to the Capitol area. uh Approximately 10 20 10 25 was our first meeting with
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and his staff. uh uh uh
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was our next meeting with, um Senator Rubio's uh staff. Three o'clock was our next meeting with, uh Congressman Posey's staff. And then, um we had a meeting with the deputy administrator for the federal railroad administration. And I think that's the agency where the grant, uh comes through. And that was the, the deputy administrator is, uh Jennifer Mitchell. And then we had dinner with a member of the office of the secretary of transportation the u.s department
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that was a full day after having um flown out at 7 a.m in the morning and then the next morning was um um was, a nine o'clock meeting with, uh staff on the
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uh at 10 30. there was a meeting on the house side on the house subcommittee on railroads pipelines, and hazardous materials. And then there was a lunch with, um um Mrs. Quinn, who's the senior advisor for NASA. And then we quickly rushed to the airport and made it back home. And so you can see within those, uh
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was, uh packed full of meetings. um very productive meetings. um everybody, at least our delegation left, uh Washington feeling positive with regards to uh our chances on the, uh on the application. I will tell you that one of the, one of the, most significant points was our ranking with regards to discretionary grant funding for either transportation or rail transportation. And we rank 49th out of 50th in terms of discretionary grant funding. And so, um again, in the mayor of i and I have already sent personal notes to our delegation
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story. so So uh I think a very successful trip. I give you that detail because I think prior to us taking off on the trip, it was there was something implied that it was a it was a uh a junket. um I can tell you the mayor's uh I don't know, I may be slightly larger than him now, but the rooms that we stayed in are were uh probably 11 by 11. And so and so um so it was, uh again, a a business trip that uh that, uh again, I think was very successful. And uh ‸ we hopefully will know something with regards to the grant within the next couple of months.
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that we sat in on, you know what I'm saying, in reference of what took place in the state,
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‸ So, so we, we actually, we actually got a chance to sit in on ‸ the live, uh committee meeting ‸ with regards to the set, the assassination attempt. And so, uh that was, that was, uh that was probably a leisure time during the trip to actually sit in on that committee meeting there. And so that was an interesting, uh committee meeting there, but that was the one sort of diversion that we had was we did have a few moments to actually, uh see that meeting live and in living color color there. I actually, I think I just have two pictures.
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Yeah. So
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this is, uh on the left side of the picture. Yeah. That's, uh the mayor. oh That was a joke. uh Michael Lloyd, uh Linda Weatherman, Georgiana Gillette and pictures ‸ do make you look bigger
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you actually are. That's me on the right side of the picture. Here's another picture. um that is, uh the Brightline intern, uh Lucas
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there. And he was invaluable to, uh taking us around Washington, dc And so so big shout out to Lucas uh for for uh all the the work that he put in. They actually gave us a a briefing booklet that talked about the project that had briefing notes for each of the uh individuals that we met with.
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I think that's it. That's it for me.
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it for me, Mr. Mayor. Thank you very much.
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report. Okay, here we go. um Can I say one thing?
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the certification.
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Thank you. Yeah, two dogs that just recently got certified. They had to do 800 some hours of training.
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uh those dogs are now on the
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that's what the man oh it's
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uh let's see. I think, uh well, you already talked about, um next Friday we have, or is it a week from Friday? That we have our ribbon cutting at Travis. um but, so that's the extent of my report. I did just want to say one thing about our last council meeting and about the whole process for our district three appointment. I'll never be fooled by a pretty speech again.
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used for ‸ personal family matter. um and I'm really looking forward to having someone in this space ‸ that is committed to us and that has shown their commitment in the time they've lived here.
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sweet today. So uh as I stated, I was uh over there hanging out at matthews Hope today and and see what was going on over there. And this is one of the things that they have in the works. As we know, they are a non-profit and um that organization can use all the help that they can receive. So something that they're throwing,
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wanted to give ample time for the citizens
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and beyond to uh be aware of this event. They're
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dinner and 7 30 p.m for the speakeasy entry It'll be located at the
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So you can
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about that event if you want to know more. And also, I wanted to report that
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a pep rally. and They're making this, they're opening ‸ up to the community. So uh they we really need to make this a big event, make it successful as our Tigers start their season off and go bring us back a third state championship in a row
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but uh that event will be august 15th 7 p.m As I stated, it's open to the community. It's a free event, so I'm hoping everyone show up and show out for our Tigers. It'll be live streamed by uh West News. um I hate that I won't be able to attend. I don't think any of us would be able able to attend because of the Florida League of Cities event. um I had a small ask of Samantha. If you could maybe see if it's feasible to reach out to who's organ I don't know if it's the Booster Club or the actual football team hosting this event, but maybe if there's a feasibility that maybe us council members can call in and maybe say a few words of encouragement to the
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football team, if that's possible. I don't know. if um And that's all
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so this was the uh
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i think we had probably about between 50 ‸ 60 uh men ‸ in the community come uh celebrate the the young
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mayor attended this event. um
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he always get in the newspaper some kind of way. uh This is our photo with with uh
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Mike Bale. oh
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God. Well, actually,
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he spelled principal and
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and the mayor also, we uh attended
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If you didn't know it, Mr. wasden was a um uh head basketball coach for
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University, made the Final Four. um And he he actually wrote a book that is actually really, really good called Once a Coach, Always a Coach. um And so we celebrated his birthday um last two weeks
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ago, a week
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and a half ago. uh This is a funny sign. um You know, we always go back and forth about people like building and don't like building. And so uh if you can't read it, go away. uh We missed the cows. So people are really upset about so much building going on ‸ Brevard County. But at the same time, I think we are at a deficit on um on homes in Brevard. So I thought that was a funny thing. uh You know, we can't please everybody. I just say that. And that's it.
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Hey, Anthony, my name is
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of members of
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sorry. uh Can we back up one more period please? Yes, these are the newest members of our
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and under
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lady is Mrs. Stewart. I think she transitioned from being an alternate
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as well. And you know the old nostalgic guys, Greenwood, um um former Councilman Todd Anderson, and uh uh what's
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chabot's husband First name? ‸ Ron, thank you. I forgot. that Forgive me, Ron, but I know your last name. That's the most important
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your immediate left is from Chipley, Florida. Right? can you remember his name, Councilman
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He's from Chipley, for artists. ‸ You're on it, sir. And the gentleman to the far right
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in which Councilman
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in the book of Coach
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and it was heavily attended. It was jam-packed there at um time out in the back. But they actually won the game. They actually won the game. Something comparable to what
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really did their thing. And these are two legends ‸ there to support um Coach um
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Tom
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who's been a, pretty much, you
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say, a patriot of the community of
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uh While we were at Washington, dc this is a statue pertaining to the Seminole Indian, acknowledging the Seminole Indians there at Washington, dc as we were walking from one side, say, from the center side to the house side. um i'm When I did my count, we had walked just on that first day, Tuesday, over seven plus miles. And guess what, ladies and gentlemen? We had to be at the airport at 4am That's right. In the previous night, we had an event as well. As you can see in myself uh Michael
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Mrs.
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there with our three pins on, showing our support,
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TPO, and EDC. oh I don't know how I got that one. I was lucky. You know that it has some fella on the far right and in the middle. And there we go again. But I don't know how that happened, but I want to say thank you very much. uh A job well done. We will be at um the Diplomat
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as we step up and become one of the few cities in
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to become president of the Florida League of Cities. So again, to staff, city manager, city attorney, and council, and the members of the Florida League of Cities, Jeannie, um I want to say, business garden i thank you for your leadership. partner and Relationship. Everyone should be a part of the league. Come one, come all. Is there anything else that needs to be said?
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race, and buy local, spin local, keep it local. Thank you, City of
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staff and everyone. Go in peace. Chair maintains a motion ‸ to adjourn.
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Transcript revision built 2026-11-08T23:32:41 · 23,556 ordinary words, 6,888 in suspect passages, 352 machine re-recognized.

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