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Face the flag, please.
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the
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to the republic for
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Ready? Mayor Parrish? Here. Deputy Mayor Blanco? Here.
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Councilwoman Warner? Here. Councilman Whipple? Here.
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Here.
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Very good.
Okay, I make a motion.
We're going
to. I have. Go
ahead, John. City Manager?
Yes. Mr. Mayor, this is kind of an unorthodox. I know there's a lot of people here. We're trying to expedite the agenda to move people to get to items. So, what we would like to do is move council business items number one through four, which are all our appointments to boards. Well, three appointments to board, no one confirming the mayor's nomination to the housing authority. Move those four items to the consent agenda. And then the other thing, as you know, we have a number ‸ of individuals here with us this evening that have traveled from Orlando and further related to the two bond transactions, the advanced refunding and then the new issuance of $42 million related to the utility system. I'd like to see, because there's still work to be done on some of that in terms of especially the new money, is if we can move that item up prior to delegations, and that will free out because I see a lot of people standing, it'll free up some space and ‸ we can get that done and over with. And that would
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Those are all related to the two bond, the advanced refunding and then the bond for the new money as well as the amending the current resolution.
Motion to approve with changes.
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So it's city business
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So it's the first four under city business. Okay. Moving those up to, uh, ‸ four delegations.
Okay.
And that'll free up some space.
Yes.
And then moving all of council business.
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still be items number 5 and 6 that we're going to do under city business and
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Yes.
But then we're also going to move council business to consent.
Correct. Okay.
Because
there are all appointments,
their
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appointments, uh,
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and confirming the mayor's nomination of
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Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
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Okay. Okay. So, uh, public hearing number 4, John?
Yes, sir.
We're going to,
um,
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Uh,
related to the large-scale mixed-use building
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well, two things. One is, a lot of people are here to hear about the ordinance and then talk about the hotel. So, what I'm going to, let's make a quick statement. On the last meeting, uh, we had, wow, we've got people coming in. Last meeting, we had a lot of folks and it got a little heated on my part and I apologized to, uh, to who I was talking to and whoever I may have offended. But, um,
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uh, meeting at
delegations
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And, uh, I was kind of, I watched the replay and I just want to make sure everybody knows that this is a heated subject. Um, but, um,
but also
I've had a lot of pro phone calls on the hotel at the Old City Hall site and a lot of negatives. So, it didn't come to my attention.
what
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came to my attention when I was talking to a friend of mine that we had,
uh,
that helped the builds down here occasionally. Like, he, uh, we never had a workshop on this, um, on the hotel and hotel site and a city, like a city staff workshop. So, I think one reason why this is getting so emotional is we're not really having a, we didn't go through the usual full process. Um, I, I'm for a hotel if it, if it meets the zoning and the, and the, uh, architectural requirements and,
uh,
you know, all the legal tests. But, what I'm going to request, I'm asking the council right now is to do this ‸ right. Let's, uh, table this, go to a city workshop where the same people show up and everybody can talk and we can dedicate it to that.
Do we need?
No, I'm serious.
No, do we need to, because this agenda item doesn't necessarily have everything to do with the hotel. We can do, I mean, we can do this and still have a workshop because we're not approving a hotel. Exactly.
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We're making a zoning change. Right. We can make that zoning change whether there's a hotel, a parking garage, or whatever goes on that property. The zoning change needs to be done regardless of what we do. So, personally, I would prefer to go ahead and do the zoning change and then have a public meeting. I know the developer had public meetings and I, too, have had citizens say the city did not do a public meeting.
That's what worried me was. Yeah. I mean, the developer had his meeting, but the people need to have theirs.
Well, and that's, and I'm 100% with you on that. I, I'm fine with doing a public meeting with the staff and the
guys there.
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But I still think we can move forward with tonight's agenda item because we're not approving a hotel.
Yeah,
I
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tell you what.
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Okay.
All right. You mean to the front of public
hearing?
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Yes.
The first public hearing. Okay.
So
number four would become number one.
Okay. That's fine. So, is that all the agenda changes? If so, I'll make a motion that we approve the agenda with those changes.
You got this.
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workshop.
Yes.
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So
we're
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Hang
on. I'll be within.
I'll get with the community services director. I do know we have some upcoming budget meetings. ‸ Okay. Okay.
Well,
nothing's changing.
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‸ All we're hearing is the zoning.
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Okay. ‸ Okay. ‸ I understand. But the actual amendment as requested by the community redevelopment agency was to amend the zoning code, which they actually developed and
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which is a form-based code. So they requested an amendment to that code.
So
now ultimately that could lead to the hotel. But at the end of the, I think as Councilwoman Warner indicated, it involves more than just the former city hall property. It was looked at in context. And I don't want to kind of share some of the information as I think
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But it was looked at in context of preserving historic local village. I was one of the issues that staff raised when the project was originally proposed. But the amendment is a zoning amendment. It's not an approval for a hotel. The hotel will still have to, if this amendment was to pass to the zoning, would still have to go through all the requisite site
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And if there was any, if they needed variances, they'd have to go through everything. With that.
And
it was actually, even after this, it would still have to go back to the CRA because the CRA has yet to work with the developer because I think they're waiting on this and a large measure, some engineering, the questions being answered on whether or not they can, you know, do that. So this is just an amendment to the zoning district.
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the map, ‸ the zoning map. The hotel is, ‸ while that was the genesis or the catalyst of this amendment, it was looked at more holistically. We'll schedule the public meeting as quickly as we possibly can. I will get with the community service director as well as the city clerk and look at the city calendar. And what we can do, maybe, Karen, we can pass out a piece of paper and ask people to put their name, their phone number, or email. And
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called or they received an email related to that public workshop. And that's why. But it's, that's, I just, I apologize. I think. Yeah, it's, it's, because the item's coming up.
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zoning tonight and
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details later. So we'll do that at a workshop. We have a
motion and a second.
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All in favor. ‸ Aye. Any opposed. Okay. All right.
That was approval of the agenda. Thank you.
‸ I was going
to make a motion
that we approve the consent
agenda as written with the adoption, the amendments to adding the, uh,
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to the consent agenda.
Second.
All in favor. Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
Okay. All right, John, you
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uh,
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now we're going to do items number 1 through 4. And the first will be, uh, the acceptance,
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2018-2019. Finance Director Rebecca Bellman will. ‸ Okay. All right.
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This
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2018-2019,
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Um, just to give you some background, a detailed utility revenue sufficiency study for fiscal years,
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and Council accepted the report at that time. During the utility
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on investment rate within the sufficiency analysis to reflect the calculation methodology consistent within the new master bond resolution. As a reminder, the rate of return, or return on investment is used to calculate the transfer from the utility fund to the general fund. The updated report will be included within the City's utility bond documentation as it is referenced within the master bond resolution in relation to these other items on the agenda. Staff is available for questions should you have any.
I don't have any questions. I would just like
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which is wonderful.
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So I just wanted to say thank you. I appreciate all the little charts and graphs and comparisons. ‸ It makes life so much easier than it used to be 20 years ago to discuss budget items.
Yep. Okay.
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Make a motion to accept. Second.
Okay.
All in favor?
Aye. Any opposed? Good. All right.
And Mr. City Manager, are we going to post that report on the city's website in case somebody else wants to read it besides us?
Yes, it actually gets posted with this, but it actually will be posted. And to add to your thank you, certainly would like to thank the city attorney, the bond
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financial advisor, ‸ assistant city manager, as we all work through on making sure there was. So if there was something to happen today
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to go to the
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‸ where to go here ‸ go there to determine the methodology and it's clear
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with this process so
glad we found them. Somebody found them.
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‸ The next item is a request to approve of resolution amending resolution 93-27, which is referred to as the master resolution, as amended to modernize certain provisions. of
the master resolution resolution
93-27 was adopted by city council on August 18 1993
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Florida water and sewer system revenue bond The master resolution has been amended several times since 1993. On advice from the city's financial advisor and bond council, it is in the best interest of the city to modernize certain provisions of the master resolution and recognize changes that have taken place in the financial markets. amendments include amending definitions of certain things, amending section 502 to create special funds designated as working capital reserve fund and return on investment fund. It adds a section that describes the
flood
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flow of funds into and out of the new working capital reserve fund. It also adds a section which describes the flow of funds into and out of the new return on investment fund, and it changes from two-thirds to a majority of the holders required to consent to and approve the adoption of amendments to the master resolution. Additionally,
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Therefore, staff is requesting as part of this agenda item that the city manager and the mayor, in consultation with the city's bond team, be given the authority to make technical modifications to the proposed amendments to the extent necessary prior to pre-closing on the upcoming bond transaction,
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the
resolution including
incorporating any necessary technical amendments. Staff is available if you have questions.
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master resolution, as ‸ amended to modernize certain provisions. That's my motion.
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‸ Item 18-274 is a request to approve a resolution supplementing resolution 93-27, which is the master resolution, authorizing issuance of water and sewer
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finance certain capital improvements to the system and to authorize the negotiated sale of Series 2018 New Money Bonds to the underwriters.
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To give you some background, there have been capital improvements that have been funded by revenue and reserves operating on a pay-as-you-go basis, and as a result, net position has fallen to a level that would only cover the
number two
months of operating costs. Therefore, staff recommends approval of this resolution that supplements the master resolution, and
requests
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authorization to issue the series 2018 new money bonds in an amount
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the acquisition, construction, and equipping of certain improvements to the system, and a deposit to the reserve fund as required in the master resolution, and the cost of issuing series 2018 new money bonds.
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working with a financial advisor, staff determined this is in the best interest of the city. On April 24, 2018, council approved the selection of two bond underwriting firms, and they were authorization is requested to reward the negotiated sale of the series 2018 new money bonds to the underwriters in accordance with the terms of the bond purchase agreement. And then once again in addition to requesting approval of that staff is requesting that as part of this agenda ‸ the city manager and mayor in consultation with the city's bond team be given authority to make technical modifications to the resolution including all exhibits attachments thereto to the extent necessary prior to the pre closing on the upcoming bond transaction and that the mayor and other necessary city officials be authorized as applicable to execute the final version of the resolution including any exhibits and attachments thereto. Staff is available ‸ should you have any questions. yes
sir by approving this 50 million
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four years five years well
actually it's months uh
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our revenue sufficiency analysis you know
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minimum of four months which is a GFOA or ‸ government finance officer association best practice so we're going to maintain a minimum so for the first two years ‸ we will have four months and then we're going to know over the next two years work to get up to six months because we think that's a bet even a a better financial position to be in
that's without any money ‸ coming in you'll be able to operate the city for those
months the utility system yes the utility
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there's no funds here being borrowed for operating expenses these are all specifically identified capital projects to enhance and expand the utility system
‸ okay
make a motion to approve
I'll second that motion
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any questions
okay next is item 18-275 this is requesting approval of a resolution authorizing the issuance of water and sewer system refunding revenue bonds series 2018 noted as series 2018 refunding bonds
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system revenue bond series 2009a and 2009b staff is seeking to advance refund the refunded bonds maturing on and out after October 1st,
2019
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the City would issue Series 2018 Taxable Refunding Bond to finance the defeasance of the refunded bond funded deposit to the reserve fund, and pay costs of issuing the Series Taxable Refunding Bond. As a reminder,
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refunding is a practice where outstanding bonds are refinanced by the proceeds of a new bond issue. This is usually done to take advantage of interest rates.
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provides for refunding of outstanding bet debt when it can achieve a net
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offer for purchase of the existing outstanding bonds in order to achieve debt service savings by refunding the refunded bond the series 2018 taxable refunding bond will be at
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and then at that time subject to determination of taxability
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u.s congress could eliminate this tax exempt preference between the closing date
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and if that occurred the bonds would be at
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City did consult with a financial advisor and assuming a worst case scenario um that the bonds would stay taxable the
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Given that that that's a possibility, um the city was still realizing that present value savings of
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bond additionally
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eliminating this tax
exempt
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preference.
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However, the current emphasis is on reinvesting and addressing the infrastructure backlog. So it suggests that it is remote that the legislature would change. City staff is recommending city council authorize this transaction as it does still exceed our debt management policy of achieving a net present value savings of
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note if the tax exempt preference is not eliminated, the net
the net
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bond Again, related to this transaction, due to the fluidity of the upcoming refunding transaction and numerous documents involved in the transaction, staff is requesting that the city manager and mayor in consultation with the city's bond team be given authority to make technical modifications to the refunding documents to the extent necessary prior to the pre-closing on the transaction
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including incorporating any necessary technical amendments. Staff is available if you have questions.
any questions i
make a motion
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all
in favor aye any
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okay it's
very good long-winded very good this
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information
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow. Okay. um We're gonna ‸ do delegations, and then we're gonna ‸ since we moved the zoning
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So we're gonna ‸ start with delegations. Is that okay?
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‸ so And we're gonna ‸ go to two minutes. Yeah. Two minutes. We have a lot of cards. So here we go. um one second
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‸ Thanks for that. I'm here to speak in favor of the proposed amendment to the zoning. We know that this is separate from the hotel.
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He's talking about the zoning amendment. ‸ We're doing delegations right now.
We're doing delegations.
Mr. Manager, I have spoken to the council ahead, and I have a personal situation at home. They were making an exception on my behalf.
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council's project. ‸ You want to let him speak at this point, but there is a public hearing item on that
topic. I do have a specific stack for that. I have another general stack for delegation and hotel. ‸ It's only
zoning. Okay, so
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Go ahead, Ed.
Thanks again. I'm speaking in favor of the zoning amendment without regard to whether the hotel is built or not.
The
zoning amendment is necessary. It's important.
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adjacent spots going south along the block. What people are afraid of, from my understanding, is when
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building on any of those spots, it's daunting. Nobody wants to see it, but I think what's important for people to understand, and as the council probably knows, there are other things besides zoning that have to be met in order to build on that.
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which requires site plan review and requires things to be considered, such as building height, beauty, aesthetics, human comfort, creating a sense of place, special
placement civic
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uses, ‸ human scale architecture. There are also provisions in Chapter 15 of these zoning codes that allow the city to put constraints on building size and height, if those are necessary, and we know that the city council has the ability to limit height, to zoning notwithstanding, so I would encourage people not to be afraid of that number.
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to also say that a lot of these people here are here for the hotel. Those who are against the hotel are talking about height. They think
the
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Just like a show of hands, who likes the hotel? ‸ If I have time for just one more statement to make up for the time that was lost in the discussion here, ‸ this is also an opportunity for the council to show the public that they are listening to what the people have to say.
Thank you. Nicely said. Thank you. Very good.
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Council, city manager, I'm here tonight to follow up on a directive that you gave the city manager last month. Name and address. Oh.
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I'm here to follow up on a directive that you gave the city manager last month to
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to me regarding manners at hand. I know he's a busy man, so
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Mr. DeCannage stood at my desk five minutes before noon today and said that he apologized for not getting back with me because he had negotiations, bond hearings, and other important things to do. And he had given council.
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It took me by surprise because the directive was to meet with me first and then give council the report. I did not understand what report was given to council and what was on the report. He explained he was very busy and did not have time to meet with me this week because he was leaving Friday and would not be able to get back with me until he met with the secretary to set up an appointment.
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In my 30 years with the city, Mr.
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has the most administrative staff working for him than any other city manager, yet he had not even had the courtesy to acknowledge my emails. ‸ At this point, this is what I was trying to get across to council. You hired him as your leader.
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to be even acknowledged, even though he was given instructions by this council to do so. Under this type of leadership, I would have to say I have never seen the turnover of employees, including directors and managers, leaving the city of this magnitude. Leadership starts at the top and trickles down. If the very top is not showing passion and inspiring to lead others, it will never work. It will cause contempt and eventually operate as it is now. It seems that only the people that Mr.
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will associate with are on the third floor of the southeast wing. These seem to be the same people that are outsourcing our jobs. We're going to outsource ourselves right out of jobs.
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You can come back.
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‸ I think a lot of people would like to be heard.
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Yes.
Council, well, if you recall, ‸ the meeting at which she presented, she presented an item that was part of collective bargaining, of which she's not a member of the union. And so if you recall last night, we had a work session, and I presented the information in response. And that's when I went to, because there's still one piece of information in terms of data. It's a seven-year data line related to salaries and the adjustments ‸ on ‸ averages. ‸ And we're also validating the information that she provided. But I did present you the information related to the health care costs last night, because it was my understanding that you wanted me to report back to you on her concerns. And then I was going to follow up. And that's what I shared with her today. Yeah. ‸ I need
that,
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So that's, I'm.
I'd like to just see what was given to you.
And I indicated we would do that.
Thank you.
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Okay. Dolores Purdy.
Thank you.
Good afternoon. Dolores.
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I live in Cocoa. I'm here because I.
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the 27th of July.
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from getting totally out of hand. I was so nervous and beyond myself that I had to go back into my house because it just, it got out of control very quickly. My son was pulled over. He was followed home and pulled over. And the officer refused to tell him why he pulled him over. He refused to give him his ID number. And he yelled at him and told him he had plenty of time to stop. My son told him that he didn't feel safe. So he came home six houses down from where he was pulled.
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The
officer said he pulled him over because his vehicle was not registered. He provided his driver's license. He provided the registration. It never calmed him down.
It
was a, and then somebody had given him a Cracker Jack box and his prize wasn't in there and he just was having a tantrum. The other officers that were there, had they not been there, I just don't know what would have happened. And I don't know who they are. I was told I was going to be giving a report, but I just want to thank them for being there.
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a point where I just couldn't even believe this. I told my son, I said, I'm going to call his sergeant. At which time he told me that the other officers said, Mama, he is the sergeant. That was the shocking part of it all. He was the sergeant. If we're going to say we're about building communities and building relationships, that's not how we do it. It's about trust. That was harassment. My son had registration. His vehicle was registered. All of a sudden they said, once they got his paperwork and, oh, it's all of a sudden registered. How does that happen at 630 on a Friday? It just doesn't happen that way. This was just harassment. But I want to thank whoever ‸ the officer was there with that sergeant. I thank him from the bottom of my heart.
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pain. So whoever he is, sir, July the 27th, please thank the other officer that was there with Officer Rush, Sergeant Rush. He was very disrespectful, unprofessional, and it was very unbecoming of an officer. Thank you. Thank
you.
Ma'am, thank you for coming.
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chief? Make sure that you leave your phone number, ‸ contact information.
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Okay.
‸ I
did speak ‸ with her on the phone, and
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Okay.
And ‸ another thing, ‸ I was told that my son said he didn't feel safe to stop down the street, and I was told that that usually applies to when it's dark or an unmarked vehicle. I've never felt so terrified in broad daylight with a marked car. And ‸ it was just beyond, you just had to be there.
It
was just.
We won't, ma'am, we don't tolerate that.
it's
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for exemplifying the idea that the police department and that's what it was,
then
it's sad. ‸ It really is heartbreaking. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
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121 St. Charles Street. I'm ill-prepared. Mr.
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been on the phone several times over the last couple of weeks. It's good to meet you, Mr. Foster. Nice to meet you, sir. Yes. So I've been trying to get a fence put around a property that I own that is right next door to my house.
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as a yard.
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I wanted to do, they told me no problem. We're here to help you. We're not here to stand in your way. And every time
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The code currently reads that you cannot put a fence or, correction, a structure on a vacant lot. Fence is considered a structure. But this isn't just a vacant lot. This is my yard. I bought this lot next door to me to use as my yard.
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the two properties together.
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again. My intentions were to use this for a time and eventually sell the property off. Now, apparently, I'm not going to be able to do that. So what I would like to do is visit the code for being able to put up a fence around an adjoining property that happens to be vacant.
Okay? Thank you. The thing is, Mr. Foster, I just wanted to let you know that when you called me up about your issue, my concern was that you weren't able to receive the response in a timely manner.
That was something else.
That
concerned me. And I know that they've been shorthanded.
And they were.
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And I understand that. But it took me months, months. And I finally had to get Mr. Whipple involved because I couldn't get anybody to call me back. I couldn't get anybody to communicate with me.
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Well,
I'm
working. I can't take off. And to me, that's
unacceptable. Yeah.
Your
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issue. I don't understand why you couldn't fence them both in. Me either. Until you sell your investment. Me either.
But that's what the code says.
Well, I know the assistant city attorney and the community services staff were looking at a resolution on how to assist Mr. Foster within the constraints of
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current code. So I know they're working together on that. So
something they told me, and I'm going to tell you, I was first told Friday was a week ago. So this coming Friday would
be
two weeks ago.
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to be able to issue you a permit. We're not going to be able to sign off on the permit as being completed until after you tie the two properties together on a tax deed. Which means that I don't actually have to have them platted together. Put them together on a tax deed. I can then separate them. It's not the same as having them platted together. Well, well, it gets worse, though. So I asked, when can I come pick up my permit?
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You can come and get it Tuesday.
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an hour and a half for someone to come out to talk to me. Because they were on the phone with the city attorney's office. Then they came out and told me, I'm sorry, we're not going to be able to even issue the permit. So I was told that I could get a permit. Then I was told you can't get the permit. I was told you can put up a fence. I was told you can't put up a fence. It's back and forth back. All I want to do is put a fence around my yard. That's all I want to do. Mr. City Manager, please
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A couple, ‸ a few times. The number of times he tried to get some resolution, some resolve to this issue. I got those calls and I got just
as frustrated as
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he did. In regards to what he was trying to do. And it shouldn't be that difficult.
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call from somebody the next day. And I didn't get it. And the day after that, I didn't get it.
And then you called me again. And then
I called you again.
Yeah.
So.
Does that make sense?
But ‸ you have our attention. Thank you.
‸ Will you contact me? I'm just generally aware of the situation. The city code prohibits the fencing in of vacant property.
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So ‸ when that prohibition was brought to our attention with your particular situation, one workaround solution that we suggested would be to do a simple unity of title, which combines the two lots for purposes of putting up your fence. And if you ever want to sell the property, you certainly can do that. But you can't. The code currently prohibits fencing in vacant piece of property. ‸ So we're trying. We were trying. We suggested a workaround solution
just
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we're not going to be able to issue the permit, everything he said after that, I was so angry.
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extra surveys that had to be done. There was extra stuff that had to be done. That's a lot of money.
I've already
spent. I've already spent that.
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You know, personally, we were trying to suggest a very basic solution to this problem that he has. I mean, there's a reasonable solution. It's just the prohibition and the code is what it is. And I don't know if the council even wants to address that particular issue in the future by amending the code. But you just can't. I will tell you that
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Otherwise. The
city of Palm Bay allows this. The city of Palm Bay. If you have a house here. And your house is in the middle of the block. You own ‸ the lots on each side of you to the end of the street. Right. You can fence them all in without having to tie your lots together.
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I'll try to get this across the finish line.
Okay.
We're not going to do that this evening. But we'll try to work on some documentation. And can somebody please contact. Would be acceptable to get his permit issued. It's not that complicated.
Ms. Hamilton will take care of you. She's
the
director of
the department.
Thank you.
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He's crafty. He'll figure out something. Okay. And maybe we
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one to have a problem.
Yeah.
So maybe amend. And for the council. Maybe amend the code.
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adjoining properties. Yeah. Will be exempt from.
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one. Plus it's also in the consent decree. And there's considerations. Regarding other properties. Similarly situated. That have sought to do this.
That's one of the nuances.
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they sought.
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to. There are some properties that have. Owners that have sought to do this.
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the consent decree.
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Right. I understand that. But there are some nuances to this. Okay. So we just. Can't just blanket. Right. Just ignore the particular rule. Otherwise we'd have that issue. In the consent decree.
Which
we. Vigorously try to uphold. ‸ We
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We would like to ask the council. Why. Is this.
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On the agenda. Before having a hard commitment. From the developer. On the design. And aesthetics. And final height.
Of
the project. This. Premature move. Suggests. A poor process. To begin with. Why did the city. Originally. Ask. For proposals. That would violate. The existing zoning restrictions. Why did this happen. In the face. Of existing zoning. A comprehensive plan. And an approved. 2008 waterfront plan. And the parking study. Why the city.
Does
not seek a project. That fits the specifications. Already in place. That is. The specifications. That seek. To preserve. The city's historic character. Why build projects. That do not fit.
The
village. Disregarding. The current. Comprehensive development plan. Opens the door. For similar. Future violations. And makes the city. Vulnerable. To having. No plan.
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At
all. Meaning. Losing. Its quaint. Character. And its historic. Value. The importance. Of maintaining. The historic. Character. Of the city. Was quite clear. To the ‸ zoning board. That voted. Against this zoning. ‸ By a large majority. Overwhelmingly. Six votes. To two. We can have development. Sound development. That preserves. The beauty. Of this place. So I urge you. We urge you.
To
vote. Against. This. Zoning change. Thank you.
Thank you.
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The. It's
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the request. For the proposal.
To
redevelop.
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two. Different bodies.
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There was an. RFP. That they did. So.
Okay.
Here
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Yeah. Hold ‸ down. Everybody. Please. Helma.
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2214 Claremont Drive. I love living in Cocoa, Florida. The reason I live here is because I used to live in New Orleans. And I lived in New Orleans for about 14 years.
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north, and when it was time to come back to warm weather, I didn't want to deal with big city issues of New Orleans, and I landed in Cocoa. I had never even heard of Cocoa, Florida. But I found the house of my dreams in Cocoa. And guess what? It looks just like a house from New Orleans. It's my little New Orleans house on Claremont Drive, built in the 1920s. Looks like it's gotten plucked right out of the French Quarter. So I asked myself, wow, I found this great house. What else am I meant to discover? I've been living here for seven or eight years, and I've fallen in love with this area. And what I love about that, well, there's many things I love about it. But I love the historical aspect. And that's why I tie in New Orleans, because New Orleans has this feeling. If you've ever been there, if you've ever walked in the French Quarter or historic neighborhoods, there's a human scale. And there are three oversight organizations that maintain that scale as far as development goes. So I understand there's a proposal for a hotel here in Cocoa Village. And I'm in favor of that. But I ‸ urge you to consider, reconsider the original zoning ordinance to maintain that scale so that you keep the charm and the integrity
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Thank you.
Thank you. William Morris? Hey,
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William Morris.
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Hey, William. Hi. Bill Morris, [address],
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First off, I'd like to commend you, Mayor Parrish, for
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for last ‸ meeting and also to propose this work workshop on what goes in in that vacant property. But
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it for eight stories or five stories. you want to It's the five stories right now. I want to redesign it for eight stories. Why? Because that's the integral part of what happens to that area. It's not because of why I'm not in favor of a hotel.
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for uh seven or eight stories. So I strongly urge you to, as part of this workshop, delay the decision tonight to rezone it. Make that a part of your workshop and decide then whether to rezone it or not. Thank you.
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attitude here. It's very important, the mindset that we go into this with. And um again, I want to thank
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you know, when there's too many things that don't seem right, we we are all neighbors. We don't want a win-lose situation. We all live here, many of us, for most of our lives, and we just don't want a community where it seems like some win and some lose. I think when that happens, it's sort of like, well, I'll say you're buying a dress. Many of you uh don't qualify. But if someone says, that's a great dress, but, gee, it needs a different waist. It needs a different collar. It needs a different color You begin to say, there's that many objections. No, no, it's beautiful on you, dear. Maybe it isn't. Maybe we need to put more parts in play to solve this problem. If we rush to a solution, if we rush to approve, let's say, uh the new zoning to eight stories, uh we close the door the
door once
the appendix is out, you can't put it in again. So it's better to take our time and it's very important to put more parts in play. One of those parts I just want to speak briefly to, and that is parking. I've already told a number of you that I ‸ already park on the old city hall lot.
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there. We count 60 with area for
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That land at that rate, 100 spaces at 22 000 a space, that's a couple million dollars on that land.
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it. I got a copy. I don't like reading dull things like that, but I did it. And
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which is not that area where the old city hall is.
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most important to the downtown, to the events places and
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want to park.
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oh well, I do want to make one more point. Yes.
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when we all live here. Let's go more
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neighbor
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can't read it very well. good evening
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‸ Jennifer Riggs, [address] And Jane and Randy cannot be here. Jane is sick.
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I have a letter
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That's my husband. So you're speaking? I'm
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Okay, okay. ‸ Okay,
I will just read you the letter. We are Randy and Jane Naylor and
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to address an issue which is vital to the integrity of our village and its future. We appreciate your work and know that listening to all points of view before making a critical decision is a time consuming part of your job. However, you have demonstrated that you have the well-being of the whole community at heart and we are holding you to that tonight.
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two years ago. We chose
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Village after a long search. The town we came from was wedged between two cities, Naples to the south and Fort Myers to the north. When we left, our lovely village had been auctioned off to the highest bidder. Without thought to its quirky artistic charm, it became ‸ a concrete jungle of high-rise condos and big box stores. We do not want this for our new home. Jane has a studio in the village and Randy works from our home on the lagoon. We entertain family and friends and would love to have a good hotel nearby. We have also seen what tall buildings and poor design can do to the feel of a small village. Please consider carefully and wait until we have all of our input.
‸ Thank you
very much. ‸ dennis dolphin dennis dolphin Okay, we'll go to
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together, maybe.
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extend delegations your past 30 minutes?
motion to extend
delegations.
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i'll
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30 more
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How about if we motion to extend it to the mayor's discretion? It doesn't have to be a certain amount of time, does it?
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I would recommend that
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stop with an increment of time.
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Okay. So the motion is to extend it for another 30 minutes.
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Linda Dolphin is traveling, and she and her husband sent letters also. I will read this excerpts from it to help us save time. Okay. um I love the idea
of a
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she said thank you also first. I love the idea
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about it, I was really excited. I must admit that the rooftop bar open to the public seemed especially appealing.
However, I couldn't disagree more with the CRA's proposal amendment to justify a height increase on six parcels of the village. The question she wants to get to is, can we get our needed hotel without destroying the character of Cocoa Village? And the answer is yes, we can. Number one, and she did a detailed study of this. I'll provide the
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that you can see the analysis.
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retail and if we get rid of the city parking, this hotel becomes, if we study the plan, we see that if two floors of parking are removed, a five-story building ‸ emerges with two floors of parking for the hotel and three floors of hotel rooms, 110 parking spaces. The hotel would consist of its, sorry, I'm trying to jump to expedient. Coco then has a hotel in the core of the village that would be five stories, plus a rooftop bar, all at a height of 47.8 feet, totally conforming to current code while
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And with that, the rooftop bar too. So let me repeat, we can have this five-story hotel in the village without changing zoning. One more time, we can have this five-story hotel within zoning.
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This is from her husband, Dennis Childs. I am an architect and a city planner. I have developed countless projects in countless cities. The reason, and I'm going to excerpt here again too, the reason the village has the appeal that it does is largely because it is made up of a grouping of low-rise buildings. Under 50 feet in height, the upper floors are shrouded by trees and separated by bright, sunny streets. The hotel site is part of this historic district and should be kept well below the 68 feet in height. Once you pass a zoning change, zoning classification spells out its restrictions and the developer is free to build within and up to those limits as set forth by the ordinance, which in this case is eight stories, which could add up to a maximum height of 104 feet. We must assume that once rezoned, any developer, including this, is free to build up to 104 feet building on this property, the entire block.
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to the historic portion of our village? Why is the city seeking a zoning change?
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An example might be that of an oddly-shaped lot, which makes it difficult to build a house. In that case, the owner could be given a building setback variance to ease the hardship.
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The city's only recourse is this zoning change. For those of us who moved here because we love the character and charm of Cocoa Village, I urge you to vote no on this rezoning ‸ amendment. I'm sorry, one more paragraph. My 40-year experience as an architect and city planner tells me that if this rezoning is granted, the city will find it nearly impossible to refuse future developers similar rezoning requests.
Thank you. Okay. George Brown.
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Good evening, folks. I'm George L. Brown, Jr. I live at [address] […].
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And I just wanted to say one thing to Mr. Clarence Whipple. Yes, sir. Thank you for your beautiful prayer that starts our meeting off.
I
like that.
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I'd like to see it on the code enforcement board. That's up to the board. All right. You do a very good job. Thank you. I have a question. And the reason the question comes up is because I have customers come into my building, my little business, and we talk about certain things.
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city council.
Now,
not living in the city proper, can he or she run for council?
Nope.
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For city council members, they need to be domiciled within their district for one year prior to qualifying.
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office in which they're elected to serve.
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election and then domiciled during the term of office if they're elected mayor. So those are the residency requirements to qualify to run in a city election.
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Mr. Brown. That's Mr. Brown. And I'd like to see Mr. Brown get his project in our beautiful city.
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So
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please consider it and throw all the questions
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Thank you.
I would like to let everybody know that George has been on the Code Enforcement Board for 35 years, and he's never missed a meeting. He's gotten awards for it, but 35 years, never missed a meeting. Wow. Wow.
‸ And George lives in the city and is eligible to run for city council. Yes, he
is.
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Believe me. Wait till I retire, George, before you do that.
I
can pay
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Yeah.
We're going
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triple your pay. Okay. Yes. Teresa Clifton.
Hi.
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Central Brevard Humane Society located at 1020 Cox Road in Cocoa, Florida. And I'm here tonight to make sure the community is aware that the Central Brevard Humane Society is fixing to celebrate 66 years of service to the community,
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mayor and the circuit court judge and the movers and shakers of that day, which were lumber mills, orange groves, and real estate people.
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And for that, for our seventh annual Tuxes and Tails Gala, we invite the community to come out and celebrate with us at the Space Coast Convention Center in Cocoa on Tucker Lane, right off I-95 and 520,
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leaders who created the Humane Society for the animals to have a safe place. So we have a table, because you all are all near and dear to my heart personally, because I'm a huge animal fan, obviously. Nobody does ‸ this job for 15 years without that. And we have some really great
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who are the host and hostess for the seventh year in a row of this event. Wow.
Thank you guys so much.
And regardless of whatever goes on in our community, I know everyone has the community's best interest. And for me personally, I'm very grateful for everyone that allows dogs in the park and that pick up their dog poop and spaying and neutering. So I have invites for y'all. And one last real quick thing I'd like to give a big shout out. If you have a state of Florida spay-neuter tag, the Humane Society, for the third time in a row, has just received a $25,000 grant. To spay or neuter cats. I know you'll love that. For free. So we will be setting that up. So if you know anybody that has a cat, feral or otherwise, that needs to be spayed or neutered, they can call the Humane Society and we will do it for them for free.
Awesome. Wow.
Thank
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Why the
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talking about dog stuff. And then, of course, our
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for us. And Mike and Mindy from Light Rock will be our
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October the 13th. We're hosting our first canine competition for police canines. We would like to invite you in the Humane Society to come out, maybe do a tent and share information about the Humane Society. Or maybe everybody out there should be a dog lover. So maybe you might want to bring some dogs out and try and get them adopted.
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13th, starting at
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o'clock in the afternoon,
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ownership is important. So thank you for allowing Riverfront Park to be able to have dogs there and the poop bags, too. So we do really appreciate it
Just
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this. Do you remember the cat story real quick
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why it's so important, particularly in
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that people spay and neuter their cats. A female cat ovulates at will.
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menstrual cycle. So when she is three months of age, any male will do, and older, she can reproduce every other month a litter of up to eight kittens. ‸ So, and they're not monogamous here, so sorry, there's no family tree. But
how many
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each litter every other month is female, in nine years, you can create up to 11 million cats. That's why we're all from free spay neuter. Thanks to the soul
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that live here, yes we're gonna
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okay
So we're gonna ‸ go
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the zoning item.
we are done with Is that it for delegation Yeah, we have cards. Okay.
So we're gonna ‸ go ‸ and resume.
Okay. So we're gonna ‸ do the zoning? Yeah.
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ordinance in ordinance number 06-2018 this is an ordinance of the city council of the city of
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county florida amending appendix a article 11 section 22 of the code of the city of
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allow large-scale commercial mixed-use buildings on certain properties within the
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waterfront overlay district
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village
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particularly depicted on exhibit a
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waterfront overlay regulating plan to allow the same providing for the repeal of primary consistent ordinances and resolutions
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the code
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an effective date this is first reading of this ordinance and it's a proposed text change to the city zoning code that's being proposed by the city of
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agency and i know karen has a detailed powerpoint presentation to go over the
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you anthony good evening everyone
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and
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you the location of the amendment and just as a reminder the boundaries of the amendment are factory street to the north brevard to the east brevard avenue to the east rosa l jones drive to the south and john
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lane to the west and it's those six parcels that are indicated by
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amendment we always make sure that it's consistent with our guiding uh documents and so we look at our comprehensive plan and so the policies that are listed here are the ones in which this amendment is consistent with
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and furthers the goals of the uh redevelopment area then we look at the uh redevelopment agency's waterfront master plan and that particular slide really speaks to the commitment of the cra to encourage catalytic mixed-use development and so as part of the charge of the cra waterfront master plan we want to make sure that we have uh development options to facilitate redevelopment of sites like this um identify potential private public ventures and also to establish redevelopment incentives
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plan um and that speaks to leveraging
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that we make sure that whatever vacant or underutilized property are developed to its highest and fullest extent. Now currently that site those six sites allow up to 68 feet and
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So that visualization speaks to some of the challenges we may have had in the past in redeveloping the site.
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of scale and really get full return on investment.
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more amenities, whether it be parking, larger apartment units, whatever that underlying use may be. And as you have more developable area, you can also then reduce the cost to the consumer. So that means it's either cheaper rents, cheaper rooms, cheaper office space. So, you know, when you have a larger space.
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That's more visible.
Karen, that's 68 feet?
That's
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And then we said, you know what, let's look at existing buildings,
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So you're driving along Indian River Drive. Again. And again. So that's just to give you the scale. And
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downtown. And that's very important. That's what makes Cocoa Village very special. And so we have the regulating plan, which is our ‸ overlay plan that guides the urban form. You know, how do we want our buildings to be built and make sure that it's in keeping with our neighborhood context. And
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This is really a very huge map that doesn't scale very well. But I at least wanted you to get an idea. But I'm going to kind of talk you through. So
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mixed use. And so we are very sensitive to the fact that we want to preserve this historic, charming context of our downtown. So where those six properties are, those six sites, that's at the highest point of that area, the Cocoa Village sub-district. And so those would be the sites that will have the highest use. And then the surrounding areas that buffer, they serve as a buffer. Those will be remaining as commercial medium mixed use. And then we radiate out to townhomes and cottages. So those six sites will be the highest point within the area. And then we have like a tiered step-down effect. And that preserves what's already there. But then again, it allows for return on investment economies of scale. So now this shows 104 feet. So as you see, you have more areas. So you could have more retail. You could have public parking. You could have whatever it is. We're
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And then again, the end user, it's more affordable to whoever is either renting, staying, or purchasing. And again, this is independent of whatever is going to be developed there. This is really to incentivize development, to ensure that we get, you know, we're at the cusp of greatness. But let me ‸ just go back to this. It's been said previously that downtown Cocoa Village isn't a destination. And ‸ it actually is. I looked at the Space Coast Office of Tourism Survey. They do surveys that look at the visitors that come and
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Of course, the highest you can get is 100. But, you know, we're right up there. I
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we were before Kennedy Space Center, which is saying something. And if you look at the satisfaction rate, that's
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scale from one to five. And so, you know what? Cocoa Village is a place that people not only come, but they enjoy, and they repeat visits. And I think that's important. And
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let me just ‸ go back to this image is we're on the cusp of a lot of catalytic development. We have several residential projects that are going to be happening in the area. We
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we also have some projects that
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kind of faltered during the recession. And they're coming back. They're
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And they realize. And so we can either be the victims of change and it happens to us, or we can be the architects of change and our future and guide the kind of change that we want to see. And then in terms of an approval timeline, it did go to planning and zoning last month. This is the first reading here tonight. We
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But in terms of a second reading, depending on direction from council, we could be back as early as September. So thank you. And thank you for your patience. And if there are any questions. ‸ Thank you very much. Nice
presentation.
Thanks,
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with Karen. Karen,
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gotten their statistics, has that been recently? Because what I'm hearing from some of the businesses in the downtown is that we're suddenly seeing a lot of vacant businesses in the downtown area.
So I had two slides. I should say two columns. One was spring of 2018 and the other was fall of 2017. And so there should be a fall of 2018 pretty quickly. Well, okay, I'm glad you brought that point up. Yes. There's several things that are happening at once. But in regards to our vacancy, this is why it's very important that we incentivize and that we ready any vacant or underutilized sites for development for fullest and highest use. Because
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We can't rest on our laurels. We have to constantly be of interest and remake ourselves as a destination periodically.
Okay. Yeah.
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That's it. Thank you.
Karen, I'm listening to you in regards to going forward with the new facility that's being proposed. I've lived around this city for 67 years. And I've seen it go from dirt roads to what it is today. The
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shown that are high-rises at this time, it did not take away from the city at all. As a matter of fact, it enhanced the obvious of the city. I believe that going forward with the design that will be acceptable to those that would like to see a new hotel with the amenities that's been described will not hurt or erase the historic factor of downtown Cocoa.
We
can come together. We can come together and go forward in a positive way for all concerned without having what's actually built on the river road and
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I don't think that this city will be as beautiful as it is turning out to be. We have South Cocoa Village. We have North Cocoa Village. We have to the east the river. Beautiful buildings. Let's design this new facility to accommodate the concerns of the citizens as well as keep the new building in line with the facilities that we have that exist today. Thank you for your presentation. I'm all for that new hotel. Appreciate it.
Just as a reminder, this is just about the amendment. So we're not really
focusing on the
end use?
Yes. I understand that, but
I've got to say what's on my
mind. That was the smartest thing said all night long. Thanks.
Thanks, Karen.
Thank you, Karen. Wow. Okay.
And as another reminder, this is just the first reading. We have to go through this again. Yes.
We're way off.
Yeah.
All right. We're going to go. We're going to hear some cards. Yes. All right. Jennifer
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And excuse me for that. Yeah. Yeah.
Thank you. Hi. Jennifer
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actually, I probably should have been called on to speak earlier because, and I'm excited really that y'all are going to have a city staff workshop, and I'll make sure that I attend that even if I have to take a day off from work.
So
I'm very interested in hearing more actually about the height because 39
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And I don't want anybody to get the wrong impression. I'm all about building. I'm in the building business. So my main concern is I've been told that we have actually gifted this property to this developer. Is that true? We
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Okay. So that probably.
‸ It's not the city council. CRA
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the property. CRA has made the application for this amendment.
And
CRA has contemplated in the RFP.
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be looking at a development agreement with the respondent.
As a gift? A donation? There
are some requirements in the RFP that they provide, such as one of them was public parking. Okay. And then so there's a couple other things.
So those are things I'm going to have to learn more about. And hopefully I will have learned more before the workshop and I can speak intelligently about that because I just have this big concern that I did some research myself on ‸ income and poverty level in our nice little city. So according to the United States Census, community facts, and it's backed up by the U.S.
Department
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below the poverty line. So for us as a city to give away property, I think that that's a shame. And I would also say that it concerns me that the developer perhaps will not be able to start and finish a project of this magnitude if they have to ask the city to give them something or the CRA or whomever that I'm going to learn more about. So ‸ that's actually what I wanted to talk about here today. I have a concern about poverty and building and giving away
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in their taxes because even the people living in poverty are paying taxes. Thank
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Gerald Blanchard.
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Gerald Blanchard, [address] Mr. Mayor, Council Members.
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We hear a lot of pros and cons of what the Council is looking at and thinking to do for our great city of Cocoa Village. I would
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How many of them have friends and relatives that want to come and they do come here to visit their family and friends, but maybe they don't have the facilities to put them up in their own homes or condos or apartments. So where do those people
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And where do they spend their money?
Cocoa Beach in
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Cape Canaveral. Wouldn't it be nice if we had a lovely structure here? I
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But a structure here that family and friends could come and stay in and be in the vicinity of
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really bring that people and that money back into our community here. So I really, really hope that the council looks at this and takes everything under consideration. But I think the structure would be
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Again, I just reiterate, I really think that we ought to delay a decision on this rezoning until we have the workshop. One thing I think that's really open-ended right now is the occupancy rate. If we make an eight-story building, that means that there's more rooms.
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How many people would occupy the buildings? That type of thing. A five-story versus an eight-story. And I think this ought to be decided before we decide whether the size of the hotel. I'm
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I think we ought to have a marketing study to tell us, well, we have full occupancy rates for an eight-story or a seven-story hotel. You talk about return on investment. Has that marketing study been done so we can determine the size of the hotel? ‸ That's all I have to say.
‸ Thank you. Bill, thank you. Charles
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2106 Indian River Drive, Cocoa. I'm
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of people that are concerned about the height limit issue.
I am
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not sure that there's a lot of opposition to economic development for the city. I think there are some genuine concerns about the process here and that, you know, maybe we take a pause and ‸ look hard at ‸ the issue of the height. There are a couple of reasons for that. The first is that other cities in the state of Florida and elsewhere have faced this issue. This is not a new issue. And there are land
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that deal with this very specialized area of planning for a historic area. And some examples are Lauderdale-by-the-Sea, the city of Dunedin, Delray Beach. And
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So, you know, is anyone here a land planer
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this entire room? We all have opinions, including me. You are. All right. Good. We have two in this entire room ‸ with many people with opinions, including me. I'm
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I'm out of my element telling you that 104 feet is too tall. But there are people that are professionals in ‸ this area that can tell you. And there must be a reason why cities are keeping
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So, you know, I would urge you to pause, and as part of this workshop process, to look at what these other cities are doing and not doing. There are existing good and bad outcomes out there. This isn't something we have to experiment on with our own city. So, ‸ you know, I think that the mayor's comment earlier about a process and the fact that maybe the usual process wasn't followed here is instructive. I think that ‸ this information that's out there on height limits can be looked at. But maybe the decision is
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an appropriate height limit is ascertainable. It's not a gray area of 50 or 60 feet where we can all just willy-nilly, you know.
I
was going
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know you did. Yeah. And willy-nilly select a height. And that's what the land planner community is for. So I suggest that you look at it in the workshop and not make a decision tonight. Thank
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Thank you. Here, we'll try this one. This is Nancy Elliott.
The
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Hey. Same thing.
I came to speak to the hotel, however, may I get that? I
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Yeah. Yeah, that's fine.
Come on.
Good
evening,
Mr. Mayor, council, ‸ staff. I could be very brief and get it over with and just say what she said. Beautiful and spot on. Anyway, I'm
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on Cocoa Village exclusively. We have by far the majority of businesses and services in the village are members, so we speak on what the general consensus is our group of nearly 100 participants. One
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Those are all great topics. I've only got two minutes, so I'm going to talk quickly. The idea of having a workshop, Mr. Mayor, is probably a good idea. Talking to people on the street, there's
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People are just missing and don't know, probably straightening it out a little bit more before we move forward.
30
years,
we've never not done that.
Yeah. It makes sense to do it.
It would
be good for the community, I think. That being said, the flavor of the village is basically the driving wheel of what attracts people in
here.
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We don't want to mess with the magic. Right. Simple as that. However, there is the fact that we have tall buildings at the condos right there at the end in that same district. If you come across that latitude line, we would not be moving into the village central. We would be back there to the south of the village, and I don't think that would interrupt the business district of the village, in my opinion. Yeah. The idea of ruining the view from neighborhoods, I've walked around, and the trees and buildings take it out, just like the graphics show. There's very little influence of the tall building from what you're going to see in the neighborhoods. And another point that is a big one is if we do go with the flexibility of having the taller buildings and what can go in there, maybe we can really get it right and get it just what the village needs for parking and everything else and do it for the best interest of the community. The idea of promoting it for business purposes is great because the village is a challenging environment, and ‸ we are all about improving that to the best that we can. That's it. Thank
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Very good.
FYI, Brad is actually our he's also our waterfront ambassador. He's putting the waterfront together. He's helping in a big way. Thank you. Walter Roslin.
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Barbara.
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read on his behalf. 1628
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alter the village's character and invest public money on a project based on guessing and assumptions? So he basically calls for studies on the matter, like the previous speakers. Since for this project the taxpaying citizens of Cocoa are being asked to invest millions of dollars of public property, I would respectfully request the Council to provide the public with the following information. Are there studies of potential costs, benefits that the citizens of Cocoa may incur ‸ because of the proposed zoning change? Also, what market studies have been made on the economic viability of such a large project in the Cocoa village? Or the consequences of this project for existing businesses in the Cocoa village? If, as city taxpayers, we are to invest our property worth of millions of dollars in exchange for parking spaces and promises for positive outcomes, what evidence do we have that the ‸ short and long-term costs of a zoning change will not exceed any benefits of this project? So basically he's asking for more studies to be conducted about potential costs and benefits because he's concerned that the costs of constructing large buildings in the village may be quite high. And all the large, I would add that all these large buildings ‸ we have around the Cocoa village, perhaps they would much more enhance the beauty of the village if they were at 68 feet instead of the height that they currently have. Thank you.
Thank you.
Judy
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islands or buildings around here, but I'd like to see this building actually put in as a real model. I am told that architects and city planners actually make models, and I'd like to see that. And then we can't forget that this is ‸ zoning for six lots. ‸ It's going to be the two for the CRA, but the CRA zoning request is for six lots. Four of those are to the south, and they are privately owned. I
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Obviously, they're going to make a lot of money on those to be zoned to 104 feet. Even if the hotel doesn't go that high, I think it's highly likely, if not probable, that there will be high rises in at least some of the other four buildings. And so when we think of zoning, this issue is bigger than one ‸ project. So I really think there's a need to think of how the whole thing would be, and I don't want to see just all concrete, or if we are going to, we should have a real model of that whole street with those size buildings along it, because it's a distinct possibility. We need to really look and see how that looks and what it would mean for traffic and everything else. So that's
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2115 North Indian River Drive. And just for the record, because I've been misrepresented in some places, I am for smart growth. I'm for anything that builds our economy, particularly for that 26% of our population, living below poverty. I've also always been an advocate for a hotel. No questions. And I understand there's a need for additional parking. This is, you know, this is really hard because I have friends on both sides of this issue that I really respect. And
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I'm against the ‸ changing the zoning to large commercial. Successful communities develop by coming together, not by dividing. And we're ‸ very divided now. This is being cast as those against a hotel or for a hotel, and that's not what it is at all. It's about the height. And I'm sure that Mr. Brown has been, and I've seen drawings of really beautiful hotels he's done. It's
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The question is how tall do we want it? And
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historic districts in Florida. It's simply not a village. So whatever is decided here today, of course, we're going to be facing this again. And I applaud you for the workshop. That's a great idea. The public process, that's the way we can bring the community together on it. The only thing is I want you to reconsider and think of a workshop on
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should be looking at and adapting that comprehensive plan.
I
mean, okay, maybe we decide we're not going to be a historic village. Maybe we'll be just a beautiful riverfront community or high-rise community or whatever, but let's not pretend we can be
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Thank you.
Thank you. Lisa Hargreaves? Hoover? I didn't pronounce it right. Sorry.
Let's keep it right
after this. How are you doing?
Fine, thank you. I own property at 96 Willard Street in Cocoa, Florida. Name for the
record. Name? Lisa
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thank you.
You got my address? Yeah, yeah. I
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Manor Drive. So I see a lot of my neighbors here. I wanted to speak because I was kind of caught off guard. Somebody just mentioned this to me last week that they were having this issue about the, they thought it was a proposed hotel. Now when we find out it's just this ordinance change. But I don't know what kind of notice goes out, but I never received any notice. I did receive a notice about a drive-through at the Old Sun Trust building between 520. So
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kind of rushing in here. And a lot of people, you know, kind of came in a panic. Oh, no, this is my only opportunity to speak on this issue. And so that's why I'm here tonight. I went to a prior, I don't know what you would call it. Maybe it was a workshop for developing the whole park area. And
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No, not the City Hall, sorry. The Civic Center. And
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maybe a civic center way out on the Point Riverfront. That
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I don't know why it would need to be in or any tall building in a spot where is historic. And
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your historic district must be tiny, tiny because there's still nice historic buildings across from that parking lot. You've got the old, you've got Murdoch's right there also, which is very historic. So I kind of take issue with what you're just considering the historic village because I consider a lot wider area. And all the taller buildings are on the very outskirts. That's
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I understand there's no occupancy there. That ‸ you're having to do special events ‸ and really that's all you're doing. You don't have a good occupancy
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Everybody's asking, I'll tell you. We're
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So now I'm repairing the building. Okay, I'm repairing it. And we have people there right now. I mean, but it's not jam-packed. Remember the weather changes in this business? In the B&B business, the weather will change in September or October. And it's very busy all the way through to about July 4th. But we have a lot of events we do, ‸ too. The events ‸ make it really healthy.
So
it'd
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Jennifer Riggs.
Jennifer
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We did it
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It
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Okay.
‸ Excuse me one second. Super attorney? Yeah. This is public care. We can roll. It's
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Go ahead.
I'd like to Jennifer Riggs. And I'd like to show you something wonderful that I found. Mr. Brown developed this hotel. And it is three stories tall. And it has 36 rooms. It's in Dunedin. And so this demonstrates that there is economic feasibility for a small hotel that easily, handily fits well within our zoning. It
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He presented this in the same months that he presented the other hotels. So here's a 36-room, lovely, beautiful proposal. We don't have to have a zoning change in order to accomplish a hotel. Thank
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Very good. ‸ Tom Wasden. Tom,
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I'm doing fine.
Well, ‸ Mayor and Deputy Mayor and Councilman and Councilwoman, thanks for listening to the people talk. It's important. We've
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We
bought our property in 1999. And we've watched, like Mr.
Whipple,
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we've watched the village struggle and get better. But it really took off when we had the high-rise condominium. If there was
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it is today. And so we have property in the north end and the south end. Our north end property is 100% occupied, and we get twice the income for the property we do in the south end. We need something to pull the north and south together.
Mm-hmm.
And I think this is just what we need. And I'm in favor of it. We
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It probably affects our property more than anybody else. And we have 50 residential commercial units in the village. We live in the village. We live in a high-rise condominium. And
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I'm in favor of the city. We love it. We have a home in Cocoa Beach. We have a home on Merritt Island. We love Cocoa Village, and I think this is just what we need. So thank you very much. Thank you.
Thank you,
sir.
Thanks, Tom. Thank you. Okay, that was it.
That was it. That's it.
Who wants to start? I'll be happy to ‸ start. Okay.
I don't mind starting. ‸ Okay. As you know, Mr. Mayor and Mr. Whipple, I
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but I have been here 43 years.
Yes.
And I was here for the building of 115 Indian River Drive, and the objections to 115 Indian River Drive, which Mr. Greenwood in the audience may well remember since his family was instrumental in building 115 Indian River Drive, were pretty negative. Yes, it was very negative. 115
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and we destroyed three historic homes in order to build 115 Indian River Drive. I was also here for the building of Oleander Point, and that was
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Whitley Bay, which I sat on the council and approved the height. I
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I voted in favor of that project. And sometimes when I'm sitting on the river road trying to get into the village and I can't see the traffic coming for the building, I'm kind of wishing maybe we had set it back a little further. But when I'm coming across the bridge from Merritt Island and I'm looking at Cocoa Village, I'm extremely proud of the
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And I'm also very proud of the fact that we brought residential back to the village because the village was dying. And everybody knows that without a vibrant residential community in an area like Cocoa Village, you're not going to sustain the businesses, especially the restaurants. ‸ All of our restaurant owners will tell you that without the residents of Oleander Point and Whitley Bay, they would not survive the year without those residents. Those residents are their customers year-round. I was also involved in the building of, or when Mr. Parrish built his condominium, which is rather short compared to the rest of them.
It's the best one. But go ahead.
And
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Not to say that everybody's concerns when those buildings were built were not valid. There were valid concerns. And there are valid concerns about the development of this property. And I love hearing everybody's ideas. But, you know, from what I hear, we're all on the same page. We all want what's best for Cocoa Village. We all would love to see a hotel in Cocoa Village. And nobody wants anything that doesn't fit in the character of the village. And
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of those properties. It also doesn't mean that there's ever going to be a hotel on that property. The RDA still has to sit down with Mr. Brown and come to some sort of agreement. And
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forward with. But if we don't continue the process, then there's no possibility of continuing. It's
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but we are not the only members of the RDA. And
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we have to think completely different than we do when we're city council. And that's not always easy. But the RDA is requesting that we make this zoning change so that they can sit down with Mr. Brown and negotiate. And they can have the power that they feel like they need to make the best negotiation for the ‸ downtown. I
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City Manager, about 30 years?
April 1981.
Okay. We would not have a Cocoa Village without this RDA.
Yeah,
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And everybody who's ever sat on this board of the RDA, and I sat on it once before back in the early 2000s, has always, always been about keeping the historic character of Cocoa Village.
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fought for that for 30 years. And that is not going to change because we're looking at a zoning change. It's not going to change anybody's attitude. I
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than anybody else does. I don't necessarily think we need 104 stories. But I also know that the RDA is requesting that for this project to move forward, that there be some parking for the public. Without a public parking component to this project, Mr. Brown could build 36 feet or 48 feet and do just fine. The extra height is because we're asking for something. In the end, we may decide, hey, we don't need that parking bad enough to put up with this extra height. That'll
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But
we need to keep moving forward to give the RDA the ability to sit down and negotiate and try to come up with a project that everybody would like. What I would like to see is for us to continue tonight to move the process forward, but I would also like to see us not to bring this back for a second reading ‸ after we have our workshop.
That's all I
got to say.
I've
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think what she said was well said, and I concur with your sentiments in regards to how we go forward that the meeting that we'll have to discuss this issue will be done prior to we make final decisions as to ‸ what will I should go back. So I thought the way that you explained it, it was very simple, and I think it's the way that we should go as a council.
I think we're looking at a minimum of two more opportunities for public input, the
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And there's been plenty of times when
I
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voted in favor of something at one public hearing and voted against it at the next because information or things changed in the meantime. And
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And then we have
the
CRA votes, and there would be a minimum of two meetings there. So we're looking at a minimum of four opportunities for public input before any decision is made about this property. That's a minimum of four public meetings.
Yeah, plus a lot more information. Yeah. I
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And I relate this to the Joey Smith project that we had to make a decision on. There was a public meeting, and we had a lot of public input, and that helped us make the decision that we came to, the conclusion that we all voted on. So I think that Brenda's suggestion of postponing the second reading until after the workshop so we can get some public input. Well, I think also,
I was also here for the Riverfront Park project, and most of you who haven't been here won't believe this. There was huge opposition to building Riverfront Park. I heard
that.
Because we killed 400 parking spaces when we built Riverfront Park, and a rope. We got rid of a
road
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And it was huge. You can't take away that parking. But you know what? Six days a week, my car was the only one in that parking lot because I worked at the Porsche house. And
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the only one ‸ there. Now I kind of wish we had those 400 parking spaces, but
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‸ But there
was a huge opposition to that. But we had a public meeting, and the public had the opportunity to put input. We
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want. This is what they don't want. Mr.
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We all got something we wanted
at a
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Riverfront Park, the red tile roofs. You guys can thank Mr. Greenwood for the red tile because he fought hard to get the red tile on all those little buildings down there. So, ‸ yeah, the fountain. Everything ‸ that went into that Riverfront Park, from the fountain to the
tiles
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had public input. And that's why we all love Riverfront Park so much. It was a community put-together park.
‸ And without progress, we're stagnant. And without progress, we ‸ don't grow. We don't change. ‸ But, again, the public input is extremely important for us ‸ to make sure we get it right the first time. So I'm all in favor of that.
Yeah,
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what Jerry just said, this is going to be a place where people want to come to. We keep turning down developers that want to build. Look at the opposition.
We
got
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coming up. Anybody
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No. You know, and the traffic, you don't even know they're out there because people say, are they open? Yeah, yeah, they're open. But the traffic is mostly at night when everybody's sleeping. So, you know, if we keep turning people away from the city, we're not going to have anything. We're going to be a ghost town. So we've got to keep our, you know, we've
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A new building department, right? The building division? Yeah, building division. So they get their permits and all that. But if we don't let the businesses come in and do their job and put businesses in here, whether you're putting them in 524, 520 has developed now, we've got two new dealers going in there. They're already in there, Toyota and Nissan. Then
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You know, it's all developing. So you've got to learn to work with the public and do what's best for the city and keep our taxes down by having commercial property come in. It
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And I agree with them. Thank you.
So,
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Just
before we get moving here, thinking back to the Riverside Landing Project, it
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and got 65. And
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it's like 100 or 110. And they had unlimited height. So, you know, I didn't feel like I got treated very fair in the old days, but I wasn't real mad about it. You
had to beg for 20 feet and
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Yeah,
I had to beg for 20 feet and got it. But the funny part was when we went and designed up Riverside, it was a big, big risk, sort of like ‸ what we're doing today. I remember thinking, okay, ‸ make the interiors ‸ really big and nice and building well. But I didn't know where we were in
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market, you know. So here we are, we got 12 feet of elevation from the river up to where that site is, the 603 Brevard. So my building there is really 77 feet, right. In
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like 85 feet. I know, I realize what we're ‸ doing here, but we are, I believe, touching the sky here on this. And it does bother me. Design is everything from this building, how it's going to look. And, but at the end of the day, I can't stop progress. I certainly don't know everything.
I
found out that in the last five years, six years. But
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We look at Cocoa Beach, where they went completely the other way. And Cocoa Beach is hurting in a lot of ways. So I'm, I'm willing to take a risk. Maybe in the second reading, we can modify the height. If the public input comes back and says, we compromise at 80, 85. Well,
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had workshops or extra meetings. And that's probably one reason why the last meeting flew out of hand. And I take responsibility for it. Well, I
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meetings where we were talking about annexation, where we had public meetings
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the poor city manager got like food thrown at him during those meetings. So, you know, I ‸ could see John's ‸ desire to avoid public meetings on some ‸ controversial issues.
Just so the council understands going back to the CRA meeting, when this, when the project was set forth, staff had recommended that the developer hold the meeting for the sole purpose of whether or not there was appetite for height within the CRA. And actually probably the city needs to go back to the CRA. Because, you know, some of the requests that have come out this evening, I can tell you the staff does not have the technological resources or ‸ the capacity to fulfill that. And they may need to engage the services of the consultant facilitate and then come up with some of the, you know, the more cutting edge stuff that we're talking about in terms of the more
cutting
edge stuff that we're talking about in
terms
of
trying
to see. So, I mean, it just, this has followed actually the normal process for a planning and zoning amendment.
it's
a,
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So, yeah.
Yeah. Okay. So, we're going to, I'm going to have somebody else speak. Okay. Okay. I got another card. So, is that okay? All right. Jack Brown.
Jack
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Scrin
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I wasn't planning on speaking tonight, but I had to address this issue. First of all, I want you guys to know that this is my anniversary. Happy anniversary. It's one year this month that I started coming to this place.
Happy
anniversary. Happy
anniversary.
Young
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I wanted to explain it. It
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It's
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It's on the causeway going out to the
islands
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honeymoon island, all that. And we had this site that a friend of mine owned. And it's only six tenths of an acre. And
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Because
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And we had to park underneath of it. So, you could only really have three stories. And we wanted to have a rooftop lounge on it. Because it is going out to the causeway. And we tried to buy the ground that was adjacent to this site. So, we could get an additional seven tenths of an acre. Which
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We couldn't get the other side. So, we
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So, we didn't build anything at all. So, you had to remember that too.
Hey Jack, quick question. Jack, quick question. Don't answer it. Unless you know. Okay. Okay. Do you have to have 110? No.
Wasn't
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I never asked ‸ 110.
Can
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I think that's what the reason was. I think the maximum we ever asked for
was 88.
88.
Yeah.
I'm
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You're asking.
88.
You want to do an 88?
It's too bad. You know, I would like to applaud you guys. The best thing you're doing is having this open shop. So, people can come and say what the hell they want to say about this thing.
Yeah. I
mean, there's so many things I could address that were wrong tonight. You
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There's all kinds of things that are done. You
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to build. You can't go get a franchise. You can't get financing. You can't get the study done. There's
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all these questions you guys did tonight. Just
remember, height and then architecture is big. ‸ Yeah. ‸ Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank
you.
Thank you.
Do you want to craft something?
Like
I
said, I'd rather just move forward and then ‸ address changes after our workshop. Okay. Okay. All right. I agree. I think, I think we need additional information that we would get at a workshop in order to.
Okay. Because
like you said earlier, like zero in on something. Yeah. I need that workshop in order to zero in. Okay. Okay.
All right. So action.
Yeah. You want to make it? I'll be happy to make it. I'll
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Okay. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed?
Did,
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Did we pass around the list that I mentioned at the beginning for people to sign up?
For what?
I
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That's, that's going to wait.
Yeah,
I
know, but this way, we got a crowd right here. We could make sure that they're contacted.
They'll be there. Hey, hey, hey, they're going. they'll
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at the beginning of the
thing is
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All right.
‸ John, I'm going
to
be all right. I
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right.
Hey, let's take five minutes. Okay. Make
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Let's take five minutes. All right. You had to announce that. Yeah.
Go ahead.
There's
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They approved the first one. First hearing.
Everybody, we're taking a five-minute break.
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Councilman
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What
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‸ Actually, let me stand back. I know. City
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Then
we're going to roll into multi-year.
We're going to go back to those, I guess, after
we do City Business. City
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Yeah, so we're going to go. It's the resolution of the FY18 budget. City
Business 5.
We're on item 18-317. This is a request to approve a resolution amending the fiscal year 2018 budget, ‸ partly through the use of general fund reserves and contingency to reclassify expenditures and other unexpected expenses that resulted in negative account balances. So during fiscal year 2018 budget process, estimates are used to develop the budget and then during the year other changes occur. So
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affecting general fund, water and sewer fund, and the storm water fund, because additional funds are needed from both contingency and reserves to clean up the line items. So
staff
is available to answer questions.
‸ Could I just add to that? There's also two items in there where the general fund will be taking over the costs ‸ for the claw truck and the
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waters, but it's, you know, general fund that is the primary.
‸ I make a motion to accept. I'll second.
Okay. All in favor? ‸ Aye. Any opposed? Good. Then we're going to go to seven. Great.
Nope. Six.
I circled it for some reason. Okay.
Yes, sir, mayor. This is Roman numeral number six, city business item number six, in
case
people are following along or attempting to. I'm
going to go to seven.
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approve amendment number six change
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CDM Smith. To
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WS 1222. Authorize the city manager to execute the amendment. To
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street corridor streetscaping project number WS
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To approve a resolution to modify the previously adopted resolution 2013 083 to adjust the total project amount. So it needs a little bit of an explanation. This particular project is one of the
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Unfortunately, we still have some technical work that needs to be done, even though we are still in dispute and are working with the bonding company who has bonded the project. We
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They basically coated the inside of some of the basins at the wastewater plant. That coating is peeled off. There's been some discussion and some pushback from the bonding company, but we've hired a consultant through, through CDM Smith, by the way. So the majority of this change order is
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Cocoa right on US 1 to do the expert
coding
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consulting for us. And in,
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even though we have to see this through. I've had multiple discussions with, with Greg Johnson, with
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In fact, it's almost a weekly conference call with
them
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on advising us our steps. But we've advised and already notified the bonding company that we are seeking all of this money. They have refused to pay, but the project still has to be completed. I can't leave the project in limbo. I need to get the wastewater plant back fully operational. So we need this money. Unfortunately, this is probably one of the only one or two projects, I think, since we've actually started the ‸ program, 96
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we've actually had to come back to Council to ask for additional monies over, above,
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And that's the reason why we need to amend the total project budget. We basically turned and used the dollars in contingency to pay to get us to this far, and this next level will put us over. In addition, if you looked at the agenda item really closely, there's a couple hundred thousand dollars in contingency, which we're asking you to delegate that authority again to John for his approval in the future. And what's going on is some of the concrete preparation that was supposed to have been done when they did the original painting of the coating of the basins was not done. When we come back and make them take that coating off, that's at their expense, but if the concrete is found to be substandard, that's still sort of the city's responsibility and that is kind of what that contingency is for. So
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have ‸ to be brought offline, stripped down, and if that concrete ‸ comes off more than what's supposed to, then that's our cost. That
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But the cost for the consultant to help us and to verify that it's being done right, that it's being prepped right, and that it's being installed right the second time, those are, that
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or his bonding agent for. So this is about as ugly as it gets. But we've been, like I said, consulting with our legal team to guide us on how to go forward. We
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questions if you would have them.
Mr. Ruppel?
Yes. One thing that I've noticed here
and
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your request is that you're going to transfer a fund from the Stone Street corridor streetscaping. Why is that?
I believe that project was, is not going forward this year, correct?
Well, it would. It's going forward. They're
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But the utilities portion. I know that the utilities portion was not as invasive as
for
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the street tearing up the roadway and putting new pipes down. But we need every penny we can get to complete that project. I
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so the monies that were originally budgeted in that account was under the original proposal, if you recall. And ‸ there was also more monies budgeted in stormwater. And
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the costs were like way higher than could be justified for utilities, specifically because of the life of the pipe. ‸ Otherwise, they would not have needed to replace the pipe. ‸ And if you did a cost benefit analysis in terms of the life of the pipe, it's sufficient. So therefore, they cannot expend any funds towards that project. And
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funds on that project. It's really happening with the general fund and to a certain degree, some of ‸ stormwater. Well,
I still don't understand why you're taking
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from that project, even though we are not spending it on the underground piping that doesn't need to be replaced at this time. Is there anywhere else that you can get those funds from?
You can't expend utilities funds on general fund projects. They would only, they earmarked or they reappropriated those funds with the original intent of replacing the pipes. How much money we're talking about? It could be even $10, but you'd be spending. If it's $10,
okay.
No, but I'm saying, but it could be as low as $10 and you still wouldn't be able to do it because it's the ratepayers and it's the utilities funds. And
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So
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So that portion.
So you're
saying
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not going to be done can't be spent on anything else but utilities. Utilities.
Correct. Because it's utilities
fundings. Yes, sir.
That's correct, sir.
Okay. Yep. I have the explanation, but it just seems as though, you know, we don't have any money in the first place for that project. And there's a lot to be done on that street. And
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just designate that money or donate it. But if
the law says we can't do it,
it is illegal. I
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Yeah, but you know, I'm okay with that, but I'm really not okay with it because we need that money for that project.
The project's fully funded as is what was approved by City Council in terms of by the revised construction that is currently going on. It is funded.
And
I think, Ed, you can advise that it's on schedule to be completed by, we're still, I know, contract December, but actually we're working with them to get it done by the end of this fiscal year.
Yes, we expect it to be done by September 30th.
Okay, as long as you don't run out of money, we're good. No, no, it's the
project as revised was completely funded.
If you do,
we're
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How optimistic are we on recovering any of the money from the previous contractor?
Right now, we're just still in negotiations. In other words, we've made demands, so.
But it's not like they've gone bankrupt or. They have. They have gone
bankrupt.
They
have gone bankrupt, yes. And so the bonding agent has stepped in to date and we are, I think it's Westfield on this one, is the company who put up the surety bond as required by, you know, for our capital projects. But dealing with them is difficult and of course they don't want to ever pay, you know, their job is to minimize their expense. And there are a lot of expenses and a lot of substandard work on this particular project that has to be corrected. Had
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No, we had actually done multiple projects with Brandy's. They
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I think that was ‸ one project at the sewer plant. If you remember, they did the high speed service room pump repair. That was the first project they did when we had that structural issue. They did
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that's out in the well field. They did. So
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also did that they were in the midst of doing the covers over the basins, you know, the ‸ covered walkways and some of the other work that we had done. And
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We were down the almost the miners almost the very last punch list items on that. So
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They
had the the industrial park is actually the second project that's in default. And it's a different bonding company. So I have two different bonding companies that we're dealing with. And I'm also working again with Greg Johnson out of Anthony's office. That one's in a little bit different position. They were again almost down the punch list items. And
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actual concrete tank never got paid about $400,000. So he won't give us a warranty on the tank. And so we're negotiating trying to get our warranty, try to satisfy that contractor, trying to work with them on that other one. And
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this one has been a battle about whether this stuff was installed right, whether the material was defective, and so on and so on. So that's why we needed to get some coding experts to talk about how it was installed and then how is it removed, ‸ make sure they're not damaging anything beyond what they should in terms of taking it off, and then making some very technical ‸ recommendations about the existing concrete, how much more work would we do.
In
other words, we have to recognize that there may have been some work, even though they won't admit it. But there's, you know, they were, it was in their contract to do prep work on that concrete. They didn't properly prepare that in our opinion. And therefore, that's why the coating is fell.
Sure.
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But
in
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And now if there's additional that needs to come off because ‸ we think it's not strong enough to hold the coating, then that would be on us. And that's why I have that, that consulate as a subcontractor, CDM Smith, giving us that advice. They're on site every moment that they are there. In fact, there's multiple people there observing everything that's going on to protect our interests in this.
Good.
Okay.
Okay.
Yes,
sir. So I make a motion. I'll make a motion to accept.
I'll second.
Okay.
All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Thanks,
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Item seven,
a
multi-year contract. We request council authorization to award a multi-year agreement for shoreline stabilization project under the continuing service agreement for marine construction services. Make this award to ‸ TSI disaster recovery LLC in the amount of $590,390 for alternate number one. That's to complete the Lee Winter Park shoreline stabilization full restoration project. We're requesting approval of a task order to shoreline stabilization LLC in the amount of $590,390. Approve
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balance reserves. 001-3580-519-6300
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And we're also requesting approval of a change order resolution to authorize city manager to approve change orders, not to exceed
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This is for shoreline stabilization at Lee Winter Park that was, uh, disrupted during Hurricane Irma. Uh, we bid two options. Option one was an upgrade, uh, to prevent future damage. And option two was to put it back the way it was. Obviously, you put it back the way it was, uh, ‸ you stand a chance of another hurricane disrupting it. And,
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Uh, the city share on the base is 12 and a half percent. Uh, the city share of the upgrade, so to speak, is, uh, 25%. So
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through FEMA. Maybe in the next decade or so. Hopefully
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All in favor? Aye.
Any opposed? Okay. Thank you.
Thank you. Chief of police. All right.
Thanks,
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Mayor.
I ask the council to approve a multi-year contract between
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the city of Cocoa for renewal of the school resource officer and the addition of a second school resource officer for the 2018-19 school year, July
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and authorize the city manager and city attorney to finalize and execute the contract with the school board. And,
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These are the two full-time, uh, school resource officers. One
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The other is at,
uh,
Endeavor Elementary. Also, as a part of this contract, we are providing a SRO special detail for Clear Lake, um, Education Center and for Cambridge, until,
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rate is $35. Currently, you have a special events ordinance, and which has a special detail rate, uh, ‸ $40 for a nonprofit. The school board is only authorizing or saying that they're gonna be able to
reverse
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reimburse us $35. Uh, so, I mean, that covers
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generally speaking, of the employee, not only any of the materials or equipment, and then, however, it does clarify that for any non-SRO special detail, they would be responsible for the normal not-for-profit rate.
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Which
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getting reimbursed by the, uh, school board for any of this, uh,
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we're
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being reimbursed, uh, $52 per SRO that we're providing. Uh, if you're, during the budget presentation, we
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sorry.
It's
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Okay, motion, ‸ second. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? ‸ Okay.
Okay. See
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Chief?
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beginning on August 10th, 2018 and continuing until such time that they have an armed security specialist trained and in place and authorize the City Manager and City Attorney to finalize and execute
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Um, ‸ this is kind of the same thing. We're- we're providing, um, this SRO special detail to Emma Jewell. Emma Jewell will be sending, um, somebody on their staff to go through the, uh, armed security school that the
county is
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putting on. Once that person is trained and back, then we will, um, discontinue the special detail. They
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Offer that,
you know, ‸ 35. And then the other thing I should add and- and compliment, thank the Chief, is his- his department has
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they don't have the same resources as the school board, the school district does, but to, ‸ you know, to evaluate the security needs and plans for the school. We've offered those services. Motion to approve.
Second.
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All in favor? Aye. Any opposed?
Chief, are you having any trouble spilling- filling these special details?
No, not at all.
Okay.
Are
you-
are you filling those- are
the positions at the school? Yeah,
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Um, and like I said, they're gonna ‸ put- the, uh, school board will put, um, the specialists at Cambridge and, um, Clear Lake Education Center for- for now. Thank
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understand why the school board doesn't fit the whole bill, but- Yeah.
They should do the whole- they should
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the whole bill. It makes it very confusing and expensive. Well, it
also isn't fair to the public. It's-
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won't be affected by Amendment 1.
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Well.
Okay, we're gonna go to public hearing number one.
Okay. Public hearing, uh, item number one, ordinance number 07-2018, ordinance of the city council of
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Amending
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held on every second and fourth Wednesday of each and every month, providing for the repeal ‸ prior
inconsistent
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ordinances and resolutions, incorporation into the code, severability, and an effective date. ‸ This is second and final reading of this item. Also a public hearing. Um, the only slight little change to this ordinance, uh, was the effective date. We, um, modified section 6 of this draft ordinance that if the council were inclined to approve it, um, the meetings on Wednesdays would start, uh, beginning in October of, uh, this year. Okay.
Okay. So you're saying October
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Yes, sir. Thank
you.
May I make a motion to
accept it? Public hearing.
I'll probably hear it. I got a question.
Yes, okay. Um, yes. When we
cancel
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uh, the holiday meetings, we canceled the one prior to Thanksgiving, correct? So we won't have to do any adjustments with this one. And how about Christmas? Did we do anything with Christmas?
The second, that's canceled also. There's just
a
Tuesday.
The last Tuesday of the month. Right. So we, did we cancel that also? Yes. It's already canceled. Okay. I just want to make sure we're covered. Yeah. Okay.
I
make
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Yeah. Oh, okay. I'm sorry.
We should have a telephone for people to call in.
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uh,
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ordinance?
Number
one.
I
can tie it.
Sorry about that.
Okay. Close it to the audience. Bring it back. Take
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is.
Wednesday it is.
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All right. Um.
That's
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I know. Super
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Yeah.
I'm gonna ‸ do Tuesday. So play bingo.
Show
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There you go.
Okay. Next public hearing item. Ordinance 05-2018, Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Cocoa Brevard County, Florida, amending Appendix A, article 10, section 3 of the Code of the City of Cocoa to modify the requirements to allow construction of single family dwellings and customarily customary accessory buildings and nonconforming lot of record, providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions, incorporation into the Code, separability and an effective date.
This
is second and final reading of this ordinance. There have not been any changes to this ordinance. I'd be happy to answer any questions if you have any.
No. Any questions? Nope. Okay. I'm
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Anybody out there want to talk on this ordinance?
Nope.
Ah. Yeah, he left. Okay. Okay. We'll close it to the audience, bring it back to council.
Motion to approve. Second. Second.
All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Okay. Number three.
We're asking for city council consideration and public comment on the allocation of the 2018 Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance Grant in the amount of $24,879. And this year we'll again be using it to purchase additional laptop computers for patrol.
Okay.
All right.
We'll
open it up to the audience. Anybody like to speak on this? Yeah. This grant. ‸ I think the guy in the control room wants to. No? Okay.
Just a joke.
It's
laptops. Why do
you
think he's got thumbs up? He's back there jumping up and down. It's computers.
We're
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to council. Take action.
Motion to approve. Motion to approve. Second. Second. All
in favor. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. See, if we would have done this earlier when everybody was here, there would be people talking about it. You know that.
Mm-hmm.
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Okay. So we're off the agenda. We're going to go to reports. Anybody from the advisory board or committee would like to speak out there? Dave, you're working on it, right? Okay. He's working on it. All right. So we'll go to the city administration. Oh,
you
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Ed, did you get that email I sent you today regarding Horseshoe Lake? I've not seen it yet.
You
haven't seen it yet? Okay. Yeah. I copied you on. ‸ Resident reached out to me.
Okay. Yeah.
Thank you.
Okay. I had a question. I'd just
like to thank the council for the support for the bond
issue
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this evening.
All right. That's big numbers. Yeah. Real big. Thank you.
Chief?
No report tonight.
Whoa.
I
don't need them. Okay.
Chief?
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You
know, you can promote them, bring them down the road. It's still that Tiger fan. I'm telling you. Not
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Yeah, you're surrounded. Oh,
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‸ No report.
Jack?
No report tonight, sir.
No report tonight,
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Thank you.
Tammy?
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No
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Carrie,
you
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No
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Carrie.
Carrie,
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Okay. Good. Super attorney? I'm
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report. Tom
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He will be. Yeah. Right now we're focusing on the Red Sox. Yeah, that's right. Okay. They're pulling away from that other. Yeah.
Good.
Um,
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No report. No.
What?
That's not good. Okay. Okay. Mr. City Manager?
Yes, Mr. Mayor, each of you are receiving a copy. Um, this is my memorandum regarding the complaint and the petition that was filed by, uh, Reverend Dennis. Um, obviously it was something
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regard to, um, one of our employees. And this is, uh, you received the email and there's actually in the backup, there is emails, uh, to the effect of all that, uh, ‸ interchange, the exchange of information or the exchange and request for additional information. Uh,
I
will reach out to Reverend Dennis, although I did advise him in my August 3rd email that I was nearly complete and I would look forward to meeting with him. And
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But, uh, essentially, you know, I, uh, I know each of you have received the petition and, uh,
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you. But, uh, uh, the, the one item that's coming out of this that, uh, that,
uh,
the, the concerns that was expressed when both Matt and I met with him was that, you know, the, the issue of the citizen review board. And as you recall, in
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Reverend Dennis did appear before council requesting it and then appeared about six more times. Uh, and, but, you know, prior to that, the strategic plan had identified creating a
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two to three and was adopted in 16. And then we worked with CPSM and we said, we, we asked them to evaluate the issue and they did. They had the, we had the workshop in June, uh, included in the study was, you know, there was really
a lot of, uh,
really two alternatives that they, I think their initial, their, their main recommendation was a kind of an formal group made up of community stakeholders. Uh, and then they did expound that, that would be group would be advisory in nature. And alternatively, they proffered, uh, a more formal advisory committee, you know, if it was so desired based on, you know, what, what you wanted to do. I know the, the city attorney, uh, the chief of police,
the
assistant city manager myself, have researched, researched various models and powers and functions of the citizen oversight committees. And we intend on presenting an agenda item to, uh, to receive direction from city council at the first meeting in September. Uh, but with regards to the, cause I know you all saw the petition that went out there. Uh, based on the, the, the results of the, the report, I would submit to ‸ the council, uh, the allegations against the chief are, uh, unfounded, ‸ largely based on hearsay. And I understand the petition calls for the chiefs to resign or that I'd be instructed to fire the chief. And I just be very honest. It's unfortunate that Reverend Dennis, who has spoke highly and favorably in the last year on three different occasions about the performance of the Cocoa police department and chief Cantaloupe, has now resorted to calling for his resignation firing
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‸ respectfully, not only would I not fire or request his resignation, I
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of his own accord if
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Uh,
with, with, with the exception of one matter that, uh, an inquiry has been open based on additional information that was provided post the citizen complaint. And as a part of a meeting that I
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and that these allegations, you know, are not, you know, meritorious.
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with Matt and him and Mr. Foster, and even having a Mr. Foster's email in there about him not wanting to take part of any removal of the police chief, his comment was, well, I was referring to how well he's doing with the, uh, zero tolerance on drugs. I've reviewed all the minutes for the past year and looked at the tapes and that was not the case. There's nothing related to that.
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I can tell you personally, I mean, probably not withstanding
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Do
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the other,
the other item I have for you,
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again, I, I will, you know, meet with, uh, Reverend Dennis and offer him a copy of this and advise him that, in September, we'll bring a, uh, an agenda item for direction. So,
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population estimate report in for the, the current year. And our population, uh, as of 4-1-2018, the estimated by the University of Florida Bureau of Business, Bureau of Economic and Business Research, uh, was 19,286. So, to provide
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well, we've been out of record for a while, but since, uh, since 2010, the city has grown by 12.5%. Uh,
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And
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And it was 16,412, and we'd lost 7.4% of our population between 1990 and 2000. And we have since gained that back, and
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So, I, and I think it's some good news, and I think we've shared with you, obviously, once you hit that 20,000 mark, it changes, uh, I think your revenue sharing numbers with the state. Uh, so the last item, just a reminder,
uh,
you know, the League of Cities conferences this week, I'm not attending the whole conference, but I will be going down.
‸ You're going down for Thursdays?
I'm going down in advance of it, but yes, I'll be there for Thursdays, legislative policy committee meeting. We'll be leaving Wednesday. Okay. Tomorrow.
Great. Anything else?
Uh, I
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yeah. City Hall
Selfie Day tomorrow.
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gosh. And there's a big decal out front.
We should have mentioned it while all those people were here. City Hall Selfie Day.
Name
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you can't be here at 8 a.m., please come by and get a picture and post it.
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to Sam. She's going to post it.
Okay. Yeah,
I did that. But anyway, just a couple items. One, um, question about the seating in here. I know that there is a seating capacity, uh, as far as the, uh, fire department chief is concerned. We can't fill the chamber with more than what's legal. Do
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And, uh, if you don't know what's legal, it's okay. But we had a lot of people in here standing up tonight, and I'd like for us to take a look at the seating. And
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without going over the, uh, legal limit of having folks to have enough seating, I'd like to see us take a look at that.
Uh,
maybe probably folding chairs we can drag in in a hurry or something.
Some, some chairs from somewhere, uh, without going over the limit, uh, for capacity of this room. Can we get something done about that and get back with us? I say the manager.
Councilman Whipple. Uh, ‸ we did anticipate a larger than normal crowd for tonight, and we did activate the speakers in the lobby area. Uh, our audio is projected into the lobby, and then we also have the displays out there that, uh, we're working on a solution right now to display not only, uh, provide the audio, but also display the video in real time. Right now there's a delay when we do it. We wanted it to be synchronized with the audio, so it's a little bit, uh, uh, more of a technical solution with the wiring. But we are working on that, so we won't be limited just to this chambers.
Okay. Um, I guess that's acceptable enough because we need to be able to accommodate our guests. Excuse me.
Uh,
when they do come to attend city meetings, I'd like to see us be able to seat people. Um, it would be good for the police officers, taking a look at those that are suspicious of doing
the wrong
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thing. And instead of having a crowd of people standing in the back of the room. So that's my concern on that. Well, thank you. Also,
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the lights in the study. Is there anything you have to say about that, whether you're going to be doing that for us or not? Yes,
the,
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uh, there were some lights out. Uh, ‸ the bulbs have been replaced. There were a few lights that need the bulb and the ballast replaced. And those
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So we
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Okay.
Can
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of those historic lights? Uh,
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need to have them as ornaments. Uh, and non-working ornaments. Thank you for that. Sorry. No problem. Also,
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been calling me, asking
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in the hat to run for mayor. I have done that. I
have done
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So I'm announcing tonight that my name is in the hat to become the next mayor for the great city of Cocoa for
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Great.
So, uh, all of you that's been calling, you need not call anymore. I'm doing it. And thank you for your encouragement.
Very good.
Um,
one other thing.
I'm announcing
the ethics seminar that I attended last week, uh, for
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Uh, it is, I believe, a state requirement that all, um, elected officials receive this for our ethics training. That is a great thing for us because it defines what's legal and what's not legal as far as ‸ the sunshine law is concerned and other issues that confronts elected officials.
Right.
It's a great thing.
I
only wish that those that are seeking office could have this course prior to qualifying.
Because
it's, it's, it's, it's not something that ‸ is to be taken lightly to be a city official or any official of governance. Uh, and maybe our super attorney can introduce some legislation to the state to have candidates go through the course prior to even applying.
‸ It would always so be nice if our state legislature
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to go through it, wouldn't it?
Yes. The state legislators are not bound by the sunshine law. Once you become a state legislator, the sunshine law doesn't apply. I'd be happy
if, if they, and I'm not worried about them applying to the sunshine law. I'd just be happy if they had to have some ethics training.
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anyway,
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Some guys. I had my, uh, four hours of education on it. And I'm, I'm ready to, to rule.
Just
to comment
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with, uh, the council, the city attorney and the assistant city attorney working with, uh, the city clerk's office on July 25th. And
I think that
we held ethics and public records training for all of our employees, or at least for, and
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So
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And then, uh, by
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uh,
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I know some consider it misery. And they
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company. All the city managers,
assistance
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city manager members are required to take that as well by virtue of our membership. But actually it is really good because it does keep you sharp in terms of, because it's, it's a, uh, ‸ new situations arise. And
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recently, you know, in terms about ethical conduct. And, uh, it's so if you're not aware of that, I would encourage you to, to read that by Dr.
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It's
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This one was put on by, uh, attorney Cliff Shepard. He knows our super attorney. And I sort of bragged on him. He said, yeah, I know him.
Can
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This
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there. But
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We went there to get our portion because we've been there. But she was asking questions that were
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It was a training class for, to be on the city council.
Yes. Brenda?
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Brenda? My turn? Don's done now?
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you still talking
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now? A couple things real quick. One, I will also be going to League of Cities for the meetings down there this week. And I think I have the same committee meeting that the city manager has on Thursday. So
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Friday, and Saturday. Also, I just wanted to formally thank the Brevard Kennel Club, who is putting forward the
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K-9 Copper to a week-long training in Virginia for tracking and rescue and scent work. The cost of the course is being paid for by the Brevard Kennel Club so
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training in urban tracking. And thank the
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the City Manager if he'll sign the travel voucher. Okay. So that's it for me.
Well,
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you want
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Next Tuesday night at the Fabulous Country Club of Lost Lakes. Yes. Six
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meeting. The gate will be open at 5 p.m. Did
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Oh yeah, there'll be voters there and then the pool will be open so bring your bathing suits if you want to go. The
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Yeah, the
gates should be open at 5 o'clock and we just had the driveways all repaid and lined so, you know, we'll be all set. So we'll look forward to seeing you at the largest town meeting in Cocoa.
Oh, here we go. Here we go. Get that in there.
See, that's a challenge. He just threw it down. He's actually right. Going
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the gauntlet.
Close.
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John?
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the city of Cocoa. Oh, here we go.
Okay. Jerry?
Yes, Mr. Mayor. I wanted to also mention that I will be attending the Florida League of Cities Conference. Along with Councilwoman Brenda
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Thursday morning and I
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More? Yeah. I also want to thank Karen for her presentation tonight. I thought she did an excellent job. It
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well done. And thank you for that presentation. I appreciate that. And I also want to thank all ‸ the members of the audience who came tonight. I mean, really, it's important for us to have them here. I mean, we need to hear from the public. Whether we agree with you or not is beside the point. We need to hear your voices. You help us make the important decisions that we vote on up here. So without your input and without your guidance, we don't really know what the public is asking for or what they really want to see in the city. And
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think really someone said it tonight. We all want the same thing. We
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I think there's just some differences of opinion on how to go about that. But I want to thank all the members of the audience who came tonight and who are listening at home. So, and also one of the members of our audience that's still here tonight, this gentleman right here in the front row. He brought up something that happened in District 4 on, ‸ let's see, what day was that? July 28th at the Clear Lake Education Center.
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County had their back-to-school giveaway, and
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you say, over 2,000 students? Almost
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So, I'd like to say, you know, kudos to the
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County School for putting out such a great effort. I know the city had
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drive, a lot of merchants in the village had a drive, so businesses throughout, you know, the county had
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back-to-school
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of us, you know, to help our children, you know, to make sure they have the necessary tools when they start school. There's nothing worse for a child to start school and not have the necessary items it takes to be successful in the ‸ classroom.
Yes.
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having the education center out there at Clear Lake at the former Clear Lake Middle School. I know the teachers can go in there and they can shop. They can go in there and get items that they need for their classrooms and provide children who come to the classroom ‸ without some ‸ of the items the other children have. So that they don't feel, you know, like they are different from anyone else because that's really important. A child's self-esteem is so vital at that age. So anyway, and I want to thank that gentleman in the audience for bringing that to my attention because I was actually out of town when that transpired. So thank you, sir, and thank you for coming. So that's it, Mr. Mayor.
Thank you. Very good. Dawn,
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it.
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them. And
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Hey, they're cute sandals.
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just kind of belong there. Anyways.
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because I did get an email from Samantha. I was correct. That
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canceled on the 22nd. And she sent that to Larry. So Larry's following up. So we will get back with you. Okay. Okay.
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So let us know. Yeah, that's important. Also, obviously, City Hall Selfie Day, some of us are going to be there. We've got a banner. It's got to be a really good picture. That's
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you. So the whole state chimes in on this. You know.
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to stop over. You've got to be there. Okay. Also, I want to thank Florida League of Cities' Scott Dudley, the Director of Legislative Affairs. He's the director. He stopped by Coco
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and we had a selfie done with him, and him and I were talking issues. Coming up, and he's a big support for the city, and I appreciate him. He went out and held a sign for me for a while. So he's a great guy. Solid. And he shares the same concerns we have. ‸ So you guys say hi when you're down there and give him those lapel pins. I will give him
those pins, yes.
And I forgot to do that. And then also, I had a mayor's meeting Saturday, and we talked about all the usual things, the lagoon, you know, roads, public safety, the upcoming legislative session. You know, growth for the first time ever.
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at each other, and two or three of them said, you know, ‸ we've had so much growth. Like the mayor of
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know how many more years they can appreciate like that. 13.2,
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So, you know, you're starting to ask the question in South
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and how many more people can we hold or sustain. So ‸ it was just interesting. I don't really have an opinion.
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was the first time I heard that from the really successful growth cities. You know, they're getting worried. You know, and then also, we had a couple of South County guys on the beach.
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were talking about, you know, shark fishing and some of the sustainability and the satellite beaches, sewer
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So
it's been interesting. A lot of infrastructure problems. Apparently, there's some areas in the
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the lagoon, that runoff is directly into the lagoon, off
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And so, I mean, there's a lot of problems here that really need to be dealt with.
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it was a great meeting. I thought I
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a half hours. It
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And also, I'll leave you with this. Clearance, you're talking about the sunshine law and the ethics training. It's all important. But I always like to leave something kind of light. Here
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And
I step in the elevator. I got a Democratic lobbyist. I mean, a legislator on one side of me, a Republican legislator on the other side. ‸ They both had the lapel pins. And I'm sitting there as we're going up about eight floors. And one guy says, well, how do you feel about this bill? He goes, well, I like the bill. I'll help you. I'll help you. And they started talking details. I'm like, you know, for us at the local level, you know, it's a sunshine law violation. These guys are talking business 24-7. And I'm happy that both sides are talking. And just to leave a little happy thought here, 95
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bipartisanship. So that's a good part of the story. That is. But we're going to be ready for them. Even though I'm leaving, we're going to be ready for them this year if they want to come up with some ridiculous things that, you know, the local cities and counties got
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handle. But, you know, it's just an interesting story. So that's it. We're,
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Second. All in favor. Aye. Thank you. Have a good night. We'll
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