City Council

City Council Special Meeting

Date
2020-08-14
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #590
Built from the City's minutes records — no AI-written text Briefing final

The City's record

What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (712_CC_Sp_Minutes_08_14_2020.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins (printed “James Goins”), Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines.)
  • Absences: no absence line could be read from the minutes' text, so none is stated here; the first page of the minutes is the record.
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Anthony A. Garganese (City Attorney), Matthew Fuhrer (Interim City Manager), Monica Arsenault (Assistant City Clerk), Michael Cantaloupe (Chief of Police), Jack Walsh (Utilities Director), Bryant Smith (Public Works Director), Tammy Gemmati (Administrative Services Director), Rebecca Bowman (Finance Director), Nancy Bunt (Community Services Director)
  • Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Jake Williams Jr., Lorraine Koss (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (2)

  • to select Stockton Whitten as the new City Manager for the City of Cocoa and to authorize the City Attorney and Interim City Manager to move forward with a contract and to authorize a final background check (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 3
  • to adjourn the Special meeting of August 14, 2020 (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 3

Agenda (the City's wording)

The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (CC_Sp_Packet_08_14_2020), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.


Transcript Partial transcript

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I'm going to have our Deputy Mayor lead us
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the application. Father, I pledge and we'll do a roll call and go from there. If I can please have everyone stand.
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Father God, thank you for being with us today. Thank you for just being with us for the last few days as we make this vital decision for our city. Be with us today as we have conversation about our next city manager. May we make the best decision for our citizens of the city of Cocoa. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.
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Okay. I'd like to welcome everyone. And
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did you want to come up and kind of explain this process a little bit? Or what we know?
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Honorable Mayor, Council Members, it's a pleasure to be with you today. You've had an interesting two days, and now it is time to vote. This evening, we will take the same process as we did on previous votes. You will have a ballot with your three candidates. I will ask you to rank them your number
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Okay.
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Thank you. ‸ We have a... Yes, sir. Oh, okay. We have a card here. Mr. Oliver, that wanted to speak. I'm a reference to our city manager, if you want to at this time. Just state your name and address. Or just your name. We have your address.
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‸ Apologies for not making that last line if that was a more appropriate time to speak, but I had a conflict. I couldn't make it. I wanted to speak
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over a decade through different projects. ‸ His experience at the county, he... I can say with ‸ all sincerity that we didn't always agree and probably more often than not we disagreed. But I left every meeting with him with the utmost respect for how he handled himself and
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on the other side of the table and his staff. I think he would be a true asset for the city as you guys navigate ‸ our way forward together through the next period of time. Also,
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the city. And again, I can't speak enough for the mayor. So with that, thank you all. Thank you.
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Thank you, sir. Was there any more?
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I guess we can have a little bit of a discussion. If you all would like to turn your lights on and...
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Can we take our masks off when we talk? Because I want to make sure everybody hears this clearly.
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not able to be heard well. I want to thank Donna. It's been a great two days. Interesting process. You brought us some great candidates. Toughest decision I've ever had to make. And this is not my first time picking a city manager. But it's definitely much tougher than it was the last time.
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the best choice for the city of Coco. Any city would be blessed to have in any of those three candidates. ‸ I think the way we did things, especially today with ‸ an hour and a half and an opportunity ‸ to interact with them, not just ask questions like we did in the video conferences, but ‸ to be able to do some back and forth, really gave me ‸ a better perspective about their personalities and allowed me to see them and not just their ‸ responses to and questions. ‸ So
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for what we were able to accomplish here today. And I'm hoping that our staff getting to meet them made them comfortable with where we are
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point in time and that we can move forward from here. So I
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just wanted to say thank you to Donna while she was still standing up here and say that no matter where we end up tonight, we're going to be okay. Thank you.
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Thank you.
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I was thinking this afternoon after the interviews that it would
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so nice to have a 5-0 vote. ‸ As Councilwoman Warner said,
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just, the room is not a bad candidate here. And I really, you know, I did an analysis. It's like all positives for all three candidates in different areas. So it's even hard to compare them one to the other.
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would we be able to have another vote after that? Or, well,
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guess we'll see how it goes. But given the fact that we're going into an election, it just might be nice to empower the city manager with
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unanimous vote. We're able to do that in the process.
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the decision is going to be subject to have employment contract come back to the city council. At that point, you ‸ will have to vote again ‸ on a written contract. So at the very least, there is that opportunity to ‸ make the vote. And depending on the results, you know, if you wanted to take another ‸ vote after you vote to make this election, I guess ‸ you could do that.
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kind of perfunctory. But the bottom line is that vote, majority vote, is to direct that a contract be prepared and be brought back to you.
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Okay. Well, I just wanted to ‸ say a few things about the qualifications. Since we had the opportunity to take a deep dive today, and folks in the audience and at home did not, you know, ‸ haven't been privy to it yet. But I mean, when I started to jot things down, starting with Dr. Moffitt, I mean, that guy is data and science. And, you know, myself as an environmentalist, and ‸ having that background, that appealed. And his emphasis on process. And I just was very confident that there wasn't a plan he couldn't put into place and set up metrics to make sure it happened. And I also had a sense that he was a unifier. And that, you know, he... That different parts of our community could really embrace him. So he had all those things going for him.
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You want to get something done. I felt like, you know, he was on top of that. You know, just in the time we spent with him, he taught me things about finance. Site development. I think he'd be great with the developers. You know, emphasis on job creation. His emergency... You know, emergency experience. The
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I'll have to say that Karen really stood out. I mean, she was exceptional. She was... She
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only highly qualified.
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mean,
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But she's a planner. She's got that law degree. She was obviously an idea person. A real thinker.
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a real leadership position within the county. And she seemed fearless. So, like I say, I don't have any negatives on these guys. This is a tough decision. It is. Now, the good news is that they're all highly qualified and any one of them will do a great job. And the bad news is this is the most agonizing decision. ‸ So, that's...
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just... wanted to make that clear. That whoever... Whoever we... Whoever gets majority of votes, that they will have my full support.
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Thank you.
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thank you, Donna, for the hard work that you put in to get us to this point where we are now and bring three terrific candidates to us. And then, like Lorraine said, ‸ they're all qualified. They're all super people.
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you know, and everybody wins. And, you know, may the best man win, or best woman, I should say.
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We got a lot of good answers. And I'm very proud to say that we're going to be in the process of doing this. And thank you again for all the things you've done
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Thank you.
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Deputy Mayor.
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One thing I can say is that no one can say that this process was not transparent. This was, it was difficult at times, but it was very transparent so that the citizens can be engaged in the process. Like I said earlier today, there are some cities that make this decision without even having citizen input at all. So the fact that we took the time to do this so strategically, I believe it's a plus. I've gotten a lot of texts, a lot of emails, a lot of calls up to midnight last night about this situation, which is a good thing. because I ‸ think that it shows that
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County. And so that, so
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I appreciated it because I believe that that's why I think all of us are sitting here today, because we love this city.
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And it's tough Because these are good candidates. and I believe it's a win-win regardless of who we choose. I just,
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ready to vote. And I don't, I don't really want to go into details on who, how I feel
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You know, we'll, ‸ see how it goes when we rank. ‸ But I appreciate the process. I appreciate the staff going through it, the process with us.
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So, and I appreciate
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for, we didn't always agree through this process. But I think that's why we have five different people, five different mindsets, five different opinions. So, whatever we come up with, we just have to live with it. And so, I need my sheet ‸ ready. I'm ready to vote. So, thank you. Thank you,
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sir.
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because it was ‸ a learning ‸ experience for me ‸ and there were some super, super good candidates here. These three finalists here, man, ‸ they're all, they all stood out. But, you know, I'm looking at the big picture. I'm looking at the future of our city. I'm looking at, and we all are, and I'm looking at what we've been, where we're trying to go. And I'm basing it on some input that I got from some residents as well as their experience of the candidates. And I know early on there were some folks that was concerned about some candidates not having their ICMA certification, which, had they looked at the paperwork, you know, we were asking that they have that, but if they didn't, it wasn't a,
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you ‸ know. So, but I haven't heard that here recently. And, so, but anyway, with that being said, three super good candidates. I think they're always great, but ‸ I'm ready. I'm ready to make my decision so we can move forward and move our city forward and, and, and get to business. Councilwoman Warner.
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Yeah, just, you know, in the emails and the text messages and everything that, that I received during this process,
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I was asked several times was my personal process for, for dealing with this.
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mean, they could see what we were doing here and in the meetings and stuff, but, I had a couple people ask me what my thought processes were and how I handled this. So, I just wanted to say that when we first got the list from Donna and she had provided us with not just the resumes and, and the information that she had gained from talking to them, but any, you know, internet searches or any information that she had found about them.
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but I also chose to make some phone calls and have some conversations, not with the candidates themselves, because I wanted to see the same thing that everybody else up here saw at the same time, but I did call the communities that they worked in and talk to people in those communities. I called elected officials, I called their staff members, and I actually employed some of our business people to call some of the business people in their communities and talk to them. So, I just wanted the public to understand that that was, that was my behind the scenes process that I was using.
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I was trying to get impressions of them from their communities and
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And that was extremely helpful to me. The very first person I called about one candidate had no idea that they were searching for another job and literally cried. So, that was, that was tough to be the first person to tell somebody that their boss was looking for another job, But
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to find people to talk to in those communities about those people. So,
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out there because I realized during that process when you do decide to look outside your community for a job and you have a job, that you're putting yourself in a position where your community may not want you to come back after you go for another job interview.
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and took that risk because they wanted to come to work for us. And I hope that whoever we do not choose still has a job to go to on Monday morning. And if they don't, I'll be happy to call again to their communities and talk to them. But that, to me, when I realized, ‸ wow, these people are taking a risk of losing their current position to come and interview with us.
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caring enough about our community and what goes on here to do that. So, other than that, I am ready to start this process.
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Yes, ma'am.
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have a tie. So there's two number ones for
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So
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So I don't know if Anthony wants to suggest anything. I would recommend having a discussion and making a motion.
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It's always a possibility when you use math that there's a tie, but obviously it's majority vote of the city council. So you all need to decide who you want to select. You can do another ‸ ballot.
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where
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you can just discuss the two top ‸ two and decide ‸ which of the two gets first attempt at negotiating a contract and ‸ making it through the final background check.
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Okay.
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So
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you
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have to select one of the candidates, right, subject to final contract being negotiated and completion of the final background check. So like I said earlier, you will have one other opportunity to vote, but you'll be voting on the terms and conditions of a contract at a subsequent meeting. But you need to give, you need to select one and give direction to proceed to the contract negotiation phase. Well, let's take a vote
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on the top two then. If we have a, do you have any sheets that we can?
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you.
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Thank you.
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So
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Okay. So like I said, I wasn't going to be unhappy either way it went.
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want to put a motion out there just to direct that we proceed with
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and final background check?
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I'll make a motion that we instruct the city attorney and interim city manager to negotiate
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final background check on Stockton-Whitten.
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Second. I'm sorry. Second. I'm sorry.
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Let the ladies have the lead here.
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Get a motion from Councilwoman Warner, a second from Councilwoman Calls. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Passes unanimously. I
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and all the hard work that you put in.
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by.
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Okay.
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Can we also just thank the public who participated, all the people who emailed and text messaged and called Alex at midnight?
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Okay. He's on his way.
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Oh, he's coming?
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He's on his way.
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She had instructed all the candidates to ‸ linger around City Hall.
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‸ I think everybody's
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going to be really happy.
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Like I said, there was not a bad choice. I mean, we couldn't go wrong. I may change my focus and move to Macon instead of Douglas.
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you. And
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be negotiating your contract. If you have any words you'd like to say, this
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is
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Thank you for, again, allowing me into the process. Thank you for the honor of serving the city. And so I appreciate, again, all that you all have done to make the process a fair and open process, and hope to serve you and the citizens of Cocoa well.
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Thank you, sir.
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Welcome back to local government.
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Thank you. Thank you. If that's it, I'm
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just going to...
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Aye.
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Okay.
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