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Code Enforcement

Code Enforcement Regular Meeting

Date
2023-08-17
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #570
Built from the City's minutes records — no AI-written text Briefing final

The City's record

What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (684_CE_Reg_Minutes_08_17_2023.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Lloyd Roberts, George Brown, Chris Davis, Michael Simpson, Verna Hughes, David Lightholder, Aurora Ramirez, Josue Otero
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines; no independent membership list of this board is available to confirm that the roll is complete.)
  • Listed absent: Sharri Scott
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Dennis Bunt (Code Enforcement Manager), Augusto Gonzalez-Ruiz (Code Enforcement Officer), Vince Buonocore (Code Enforcement Officer), Kristin Eick (City Attorney), Darla Crowl (Recording Secretary)

Adopted actions (12)

  • to approve to the agenda of August 17, 2023 (moved by Davis, seconded by Hughes); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 2
  • to approve to the minutes of July 20, 2023 (moved by Hughes, seconded by Davis); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 2
  • to amend Staffs recommendation for the business tax receipt amount to a onetime fine of two hundred fifty dollars ($250.00) (moved by Hughes, seconded by Davis); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 2
  • to approve Staffs recommendation and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Davis, seconded by Hughes); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 2
  • to approve Staff's recommendation and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Davis, seconded by Simpson); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 3
  • to approve Staffs recommendation and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Davis, seconded by Simpson); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 4
  • to approve Staffs recommendation and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Brown, seconded by Davis); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 4
  • to approve Staffs recommendation and a fine of five hundred dollars ($500.00) per day and find the Property Owner in repeat violation (moved by Davis, seconded by Lightholder); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 5
  • to amend Staff's recommendation and table until September 17, 2023 thirty days (30 days) with a timeline and find the Owner in noncompliance (moved by Lightholder, seconded by Brown); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 5
  • to approve Staff's recommendation and find the Owner in Non-Compliance (moved by Simpson, seconded by Davis); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 6
  • to approve Staff's recommendation and find the Owner in Non-Compliance (moved by Davis, seconded by Simpson); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 6
  • to approve Staffs recommendation and find the Owner in Non-Compliance (moved by Davis, seconded by Otero); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 7

Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)

  • $250.00 — Code Enforcement: decided in an adopted motion. “amend Staffs recommendation for the business tax receipt amount to a onetime fine of two hundred fifty dollars ($250.00)” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (684_CE_Reg_Minutes_08_17_2023.pdf, p. 2); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $500.00 — Code Enforcement: decided in an adopted motion. “approve Staffs recommendation and a fine of five hundred dollars ($500.00) per day and find the Property Owner in repeat violation” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (684_CE_Reg_Minutes_08_17_2023.pdf, p. 5); fiscal period not recorded)

Agenda (the City's wording)

The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (CE_Reg_Agenda_08_17_2023), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.

Transcript Partial transcript

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[00:00:00] Speaker 1
Everybody
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good? Everybody ready to go, go, go.
[00:00:03] Speaker 3
I'm going to call this meeting to order August 17, 2023, Code Board meeting. And we'll start with our Pledge of Allegiance.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands,
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with liberty and justice for
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all.
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We have our roll call.
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Yes, sir. Mr. Roberts?
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Here.
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Mr.
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Brown?
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Present.
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Mr. Lightover? Present. Ms. Scott?
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Mr. Simpson?
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Yes.
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Ms.
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Present. Mr. Davis?
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And Mr. Otero?
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Present. Now we have the
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And as far as the agenda for tonight, there are going to be some amendments here. On the regular case side, item number three has complied. Item number four has complied. Item number five
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the non-compliance side, I just want to get some clarification on number four,
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number four in the noncompliance? Yes, sir.
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[00:01:54] Speaker 3
Yours should be corrected, yes, sir. Okay. So it is correct here?
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Yes. Okay. Yes, ma'am.
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All right. Now with that, I'll take a motion to approve the agenda. Mr. Chair,
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before we do a motion. I'm sorry.
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Oh, okay. On the regular compliance, on the regular side, correct?
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Correct.
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Okay.
[00:02:25] Speaker 4
I move that we approve the agenda with those amendments.
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I
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have a motion on
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floor by Mr. Davis.
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All in favor say aye. Aye.
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[00:02:39] Speaker 3
It passed unanimously. Now for the approval of the minutes from our last meeting of July 20th, if there are no amendments, I'll take a motion.
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minutes from the July meeting.
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Ms. Hughes. Second by Mr. Davis.
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All
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in favor say aye. Aye.
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Motion passed unanimously. All right. We have the submittal of document packet.
[00:03:10] Speaker 7
Yes, I'd like to submit the document packet and the presentation into the record.
[00:03:15] Speaker 3
So noted. Thank you very much. All right, we'll keep on rolling. Item number one, CE 23-225.
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Lane.
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I am submitting a packet of documents and photos associated with this case. The photos accurately show the property during my visits and my findings of
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It's for the items stored
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item in the backyard.
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[00:04:05] Speaker 9
For the vehicles parked in the yard at various times, this violation has been abated.
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For the vehicles that do not have current registrations.
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Chapter 12, Section 12-18 and B for the electronics business that's being operated by the, excuse me, for the electronics business that the renter is operating out of the residence. I'm sorry for the the business tax receipt for the rental property, which has been abated on 6-28-2023. Rental business tax receipt.
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The business tax receipt is for the electronics business being operated out of the business out of the residence, according to the tenant.
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I found the property in violation of the above mentioned sections of the city code. I have attempted to gain voluntary compliance in this case, but as of my last inspection on 8-17-2023, the property remains in violation. I have been working
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contact with the property manager and property owner. I brought this case before the code enforcement board, as I have been working this case for 170 days and the violations have not been fully resolved. I sent the
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and posted on the property in violation.
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[00:06:15] Speaker 9 + overlapping voice
the violations remain until compliance is achieved. The property manager sent me an email which I placed on at your seats, requesting a 60 day extension to resolve the code violations.
[00:06:37] Speaker 4
Mr. Chairman. Mr.
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I appreciate you ‸ providing us with this statement from the licensed real estate broker representing the owner here. Do you have any opposition to the 60 days that they're asking for?
[00:07:01] Speaker 9
No, they're in the process of an eviction process with a tenant that's there now.
[00:07:08] Speaker 4
Okay. So you're all right with this table on this until October?
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It
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takes 15 minutes to get business tax receipts.
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In six months, I didn't have 15 minutes.
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[00:07:29] Speaker 9
That was received, or they were able to get that on June 28th, 2023. So
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let's get a clear picture of exactly what's still remaining.
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The storing
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outdoors,
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operated out of the house.
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Can I ask a question? Yes, ma'am. You said, uh, the business tax receipt
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Is that, or did I, did not tell you correctly?
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law, uh, that came up is we're actually placing fines for each violation that is on the agenda. So we're no longer giving one number for the entire case. We're breaking it down into each violation. So when he read those numbers in the 25, 25, and 10, that's what we're asking be imposed for each one of these violations that are on the agenda.
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Okay. Moving forward, would it
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if you put in parentheses the dollar amount for each next to the, the violations that are cited? It
[00:08:47] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
will be on the next one. We just, it just came up. Thank you. Okay. Thank
[00:08:53] Speaker 4
you. Just a housekeeping ‸ note. Um,
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now, uh, just to be clear. So we have $25 a day for the store and outdoors, $25 a day for storing vehicles, and $10 a day for business tax receipt. Correct?
[00:09:11] Speaker 11
Correct.
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Okay.
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Mr. Chairman.
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Yes, ma'am. Sorry,
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I do want to address the business tax receipt, because actually, uh, there are attorney general opinions that provide that we cannot impose a daily fine for a business tax receipt, uh, failure to obtain one. Um, it's a single fine that can be imposed, which is a maximum of $250. So that's not something that can have a recurring daily fine.
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day. Correct?
[00:09:45] Speaker 11
Correct. Correct. That would be, um, and this is, I'm reading from the statute that, um, if you fail to pay the required business tax within 150 days after the initial notice of tax due, at that point, um, we are able to impose the penalty, a single penalty of up to $250.
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[00:10:22] Speaker 7
The business tax receipt should have been obtained the moment that they moved in and opened up the business. So, yes, they've exceeded the 150 days, um, even based on the length of our case.
[00:10:37] Speaker 4
Okay. Well, with them not present and the officer not being opposed to the 60 days, I think it's pretty easy.
[00:10:45] Speaker 3
Well,
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the thing is, with that being said, we still need to set a dollar amount. If we're going to stick with the $10 for the business tax
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[00:10:57] Speaker 3
fine. Um, but we still need to ensure that we address that particular item as far as,
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[00:11:08] Speaker 3
So we need to get to what we're going to set that at. Now, do you have a recommendation, uh, Mr. Bont, of what you want that
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[00:11:17] Speaker 7
Yeah, based on the circumstances, staff would
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[00:11:23] Speaker 8
I make a motion that we accept the recommendation.
[00:11:28] Speaker 4
The staff recommendation.
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[00:11:46] Speaker 3
Okay. So I have a motion on the floor from
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Hughes to amend the business tax receipt
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All in favor say aye.
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Aye.
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Those opposed? The motion passes unanimously on that. So we have $250 a day for business tax receipt. Now we can deal with the days. You have a recommendation on...
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I'm sorry. It's one,
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Yes.
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Yeah. Okay.
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That's the one fine for the business tax receipt, correct?
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Yes. Not per day.
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Right. Correct.
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Thank you.
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Um,
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storing vehicles outdoors, um, and storing outdoors and impose a fine of $50 per day, um, provide a 60-day period for remedy, um, until compliance is achieved. Sorry.
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have to put the $250
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in that. ‸ Well, I thought we
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that separate.
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No, I meant for the total. We wouldn't have to do the $250.
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‸ No. Okay.
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‸ So it should be just 25 for each.
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Okay. Okay.
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Sorry.
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I can explain it a little. Um, so I know this is a change from what you all have been doing. Um,
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where, um, there were, I don't want to get into a lot of the details, but there were arguments made about, um, um, the propriety of having a single fine with multiple violations. And so what we're recommending is that for each violation, you set the individual fine. So the motion would not be 50. It would be 25 for each.
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Got it. Okay. So I'm, I'm going to amend my motion to $25 per day for storing vehicles and $25 per day for storing outdoors. Um, ‸ again, I'm going to stick with a 60 day period for remedy. Um, until compliance is achieved.
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We have a motion on the floor by Mr. Davis. Second by Ms. Hughes. All in favor say aye. Aye. Those opposed? Motion passed unanimously.
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Okay.
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So we need to ensure that we stipulate, okay, for this violation, it's $25 a day and for that violation it's $25 a day. Yes. ‸ Going forward.
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Yes.
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And Mr. Chair, starting next month on the agenda, staff's recommendation will read as he read in his presentation breaking each violation into what we're asking for. Yes, sir. These agendas were just already made before we did everything. So next month the recommendation will read the same on the agenda that you can follow.
[00:15:09] Speaker 3
Yes, sir.
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Thank you very much.
[00:15:13] Speaker 3
All right, everybody. Good?
[00:15:15] Speaker 4
Yes, sir.
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Okay. All right. On to item number two, CE23-417.
[00:15:24] Speaker 9
The address is 1211 Merle Lane. I am submitting the packet of documents and photos associated with this case. The photos accurately show the property during my visits and my findings of storage of recreational vehicle,
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‸ front yard or driveway and it's over 22 feet. the rental business tax,
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6, Section 6-2003. That's for the rental property.
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around the exterior of the home and the business tax receipt, Chapter 12, Section 12-1, A and B for the cabinet business
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operated out
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of the residence.
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property in violation of the above-mentioned sections of the city code. I have attempted to gain voluntary compliance in this case, but as of my last inspection on 8-17-2023, the property remains in violation. I have been working on this case since 3-30 of 2023 and have made attempts to contact the property ‸ owner. I brought this case before the Code Enforcement Board as I have been working this case for 140 days and the violations have not been fully resolved. I have sent notice of hearing on 7-28-2023 and it was certified and posted on the property in violation. Staff finds in case
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and recommends
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to come into compliance. or a fine
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storing of recreational vehicle,
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outdoors, And the business
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tax.
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tenant of the property is present.
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And for the record, I would just like to amend on the business tax receipts It will not be per day until compliance is achieved
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The occupant or property owner
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to step up.
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Excuse me. You need to be sworn in.
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Sorry.
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That's okay. You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth
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I do. Please state your name and address for the record.
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Lisa Dundas, [address]
[00:18:30] Speaker 3
All right, ma'am. What can you tell us about these violations?
[00:18:33] Speaker 12
All right. We've been in the house for 11 years. It's the reason they've not been able to get a hold of the person who owns the house. He's a friend of ours. He's in the Army. He's on a little tiny island
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They have no mail, no nothing.
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I think, long. We've been in the house 11 years. Had the trailer there since we moved in 11 years. We've had the boat for the past six years.
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We did have the boat across the street at our friend's house that we watched their house next door because they live in Ohio so
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make the modifications to the side of the house. He said we need to put the boat to the side of the house.
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There's eight feet of clearance on the side of the house. No boats going in there. So he said we could put on the other side. If we put on the other side of the house,
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So I don't understand why all of a sudden the boat's been there six years. Why all of a sudden is it a problem? If it's in the driveway, our driveway is 56 feet long.
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I can put my Ford Flex, which is almost 17 feet, in front of it.
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still have six feet behind it. My husband's trailer and truck fit there. We still have nine feet of property on the concrete before we even hit the road. We're still trying to figure out what the problem is. Trailer's been there 11 years. Both been there six.
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Well, now, I can understand ‸ what you're saying because if you've been doing something wrong 11 years, it's like, why am I having to do it, change it now? But the bottom line is when you were notified, that's one of the things that you guys should be working toward to figure out what the solution is because, okay, ‸ if ‸ the statute says it's wrong, it's wrong, Whether it was 11 years or this year or five years ago. And the thing about it is just, we don't want to bring you here if you're complying and trying to get things done. But what happens is when people don't comply, they are not meeting those things, then we end up here. So I can't tell you what's right or what's wrong as far as what you're trying to do, but it hasn't worked so far.
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We've never had, he might say he's been watching it since he said
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We have never had anything put in our yard, nothing's ever been sent, nothing about anything until tomorrow will be three weeks ago. So how do we know that we're in a violation if nothing's ever sent?
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that is because they're the tenant, so all correspondence is sent to the property owner based on
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property appraiser.
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not sent. They're referring to the posting and the notice of hearing that we posted on the property, which is what they saw. As far as the boat goes, the ordinance is clear. In order to be in a concrete surface like a driveway, it can be no larger than 22 feet. If it's larger than 22 feet, it has to be on the side or rear of the property. And then storing outdoors, you can't have ladders and equipment surrounding your business and other items stored outdoors. It's that simple. But part of the issue here is that we have a property owner and then we have tenants. So we don't know who's occupying the house when we go by. So we send everything according to the statute to what's on the property appraiser. So if they did not receive the letters, that's because they're not technically the property owner.
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But if, what I'm trying to understand is I understand what you're saying.
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the only way for us to get a hold of him is through email. We've been staying in his house because he didn't want anybody else staying in his house.
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We've had the roof done for him. Everything else has been done. But if you're going to change bylaws or something, shouldn't, if ‸ you're trying to beautify Coco, I understand, but shouldn't something at least go out to, you have no problem sending out little pamphlets and everything for Coco, shouldn't something be sent out to, it doesn't have to be addressed to the homeowner, to the occupant of the house notifying
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oh, we've changed this law, we've changed this law. Shouldn't there be something being sent out? Because
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They all have trailers. One of them has five trailers in his yard. He's never been notified at all. I just talked to him yesterday.
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Mr. Chair. Yes, sir.
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That's fine. And I appreciate you coming today.
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So what are we supposed to do? We're supposed to go now and ‸ pay $500 a month to store a boat that we've had for six years?
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Normally, how it goes here is we ask you how long it's going to take for you to remedy all of these things. So he's outlined what the violations are and it's very clear to this board that you understand what the violations are.
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And everything has been done except for the boat.
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So all we need to know is how much time it's going to take you to fix these violations because we're going to be setting a timeline.
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Okay. ‸ Let's say everything else has been done. We've taken down the fence so he can put the trailer to the side of the house. That's the only thing that'll fit back there.
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He's recommended 30 days. Is that going to be long enough?
[00:24:31] Speaker 12
It'll have to be. That's what he's recommending.
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Thank you very much for coming.
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Yeah.
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Mr. Chair,
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I move that we follow staff ‸ recommendations,
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violation for rental business tax, fine of $250,
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and storing outdoors for a fine of $25 per day. that we provide for a 30-day period to
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remedy until compliance is achieved. I'm a second with discussion.
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Okay.
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‸ Ma'am, if you would come back up, please. ‸ He said ‸ you understand everything, but you know that ‸ you have 30 days
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care of. Everything is
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fixed. So,
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so, so, so, so, and it looks like, ‸ I mean, I can see a change in the difference in the pictures from before until today. So, I mean, like, it's, it's, we still, um, standing on outdoor storage and everything that's still in appliance or has anything changed from the,
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tenant goes down and gets a business tax receipt for the business
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Okay. So, if he gets his business tax receipt, then that would comply that violation. If they move the boat to the side or the rear of the property,
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take care of that violation.
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Okay. So, question. Um, so how do we come up with the business tax receipt? Not the rental, but the business tax receipt. That should go along with the rental, correct? And that's why No,
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are two separate business tax. One is because the property is a rental and there's tenants in there.
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office out of the home.
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He has, he has a cabinet installation. He goes
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works for other people putting in cabinets.
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doesn't own, ‸ he has, in order to go and install cabinets, he has to go through sun org, blah, blah, blah, get a LLC so he can install cabinets. He has to carry a million dollars worth of insurance.
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but he doesn't run a business out of the house.
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He has a business location.
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No.
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and mail, office use only. That requires a business tax receipt.
[00:27:31] Speaker 12
Okay. So where is he supposed to go and get this?
[00:27:34] Speaker 7
Second floor, just above us in community services. You can just go in there, it's a painless process, So you fill out the application, give it to them, they'll approve you, and you'll get a business tax receipt that's renewable every year.
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rental.
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It's issued over the counter. It's issued right over the counter.
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All right. The rental, it's friends of ours, we've been living in the house. We barely pay him anything because we work on the house, So he still has to have a rental license in order for us to stay in his house?
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Correct. Under the code, if there's people occupying your home, we have a rental code that says it becomes a rental and we require a business tax receipt for that. So it's a
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not a rental license?
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Well, it's a rental business tax receipt, So it's the same as what your
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husband's
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doing, but
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it's for the rental property.
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So
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Receipt.
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Okay. All right, because he said to email him and let him know.
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Could they apply for that on his behalf?
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They would probably have to send him the application and have it get signed and then he would have to probably send it back. ‸ I'm not clear on what they'll accept. They would have to talk to them.
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They said that they have access to him via email, so I'm hoping that they can share that with Officer Bonacore so that there can be some correspondence back and forth so we can get this resolved within that 38 period.
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hold of
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sometimes. When stuff breaks, we just go ahead and fix it. So it's...
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I understand.
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got a very strong military community here in Cocoa. All right. Thank you.
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floor by Mr. Davis,
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Those opposed? The motion passes unanimously.
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Yes.
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Item number 7, CE22-732.
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For the record,
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I'm submitting a packet of documents and photos associated with this case. ‸ Photos accurately depict the property during my visits and show my findings of accessory structures section 6-1001G for the disrepair of the fence, weather staining, and degradation from moisture,
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and litter,
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for the accumulation of trash and litter and debris throughout the property, buckets, trash, etc. Exterior general conditions,
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for the unsanitary exterior conditions including weather stains, vegetation growth,
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and the chimney
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sighting.
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Parking in the yard for the parking of vehicles in the yard. I visited the site eight times. During my first inspection, I found the property in violation of the above mentioned sections of the city code.
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attempted to gain voluntary compliance in this case
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but at
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my last inspection this morning on August 17, 2023. The property remains in violation. I've been working this case since January 9, 2023, and I have not had contact with the property owner after several attempts. I brought this case for the code enforcement board.
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not been fully resolved. I sent the notice of hearing on July 27, 2023, and it was sent certified and posted on the property in violation.
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staff finds in case 22-732 that the owner is in violation and recommended these be given to come into compliance, or a fine of $25 for accessory structures,
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$50 for exterior general condition, and $25 for parking in the yard be imposed for each of the violations remain until compliance is achieved. The property owner is not present.
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Mr. Chairman,
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those violations to prices again, please?
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Yes, sir. $25 for accessory structures, $25 for accumulation of trash and litter,
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general condition, and $25 for parking in the yard.
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Thank you.
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Yes, sir.
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Mr. Chairman? Yes, sir. I believe based on the evidence and the record, I'm ready to make a motion on this case.
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that we
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for violations of accessory structures and a fine of $25 per day, a violation of accumulation of trash and litter and a fine ‸ of $25 per day, a violation of exterior general condition, a fine of $50 per day,
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and a fine of $25 per day, provide for a 30-day remedy period. That's all. Second.
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I have a motion on the floor by Mr. Davis,
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All in favor, say aye. Aye. Those opposed,
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Item number eight,
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CE22-451.
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I'm submitting a packet of documents and photos associated with this case. The photos accurately depict the property during my visits. It shall my findings that permit require
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no permit. A permit was denied and closed. Storage of recreational vehicles, appendix A, article 13, section 14A through D, for the unapproved storage of a recreational vehicle due to the storage location, the length of the RV, which is over 22 feet, and
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items such as couch cushions, boxes, wood, etc. I visited the site five times. During my first inspection, I found the property in violation of the above-mentioned sections of the city code. I have attended to gain voluntary compliance in this case by my last inspection on August 17, 2023. The property remains in violation. I have been working on this case since April 11, 2023, and I have not had contact with a property owner after several attempts. I brought this case before the Code Enforcement Board.
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The violations have not been fully resolved. I sent the notice of hearing on July 27, 2023, and it was
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certified and posted on the property in violation. Due to longevity of the case and no progress made, staff finds in Case 23-451 that the owner is in violation and recommend their deeds be given to come into compliance or a fine of $50 for a permit required, 25 for storage of recreational vehicles, and 25 for storing outdoors ‸ be imposed for each of the violations remain until compliance is achieved.
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Mr. Chair? Yes, sir? I'd
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to make a motion, please.
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a day. The storage or recreation vehicle is $25 a day, and storage ‸ outdoors is $25 a day, And that the correction will be done within 30 days of the ‸ violation.
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second the motion.
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on the floor by Mr. Brown,
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All in favor, say aye.
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Aye.
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Those opposed, motion passed unanimously. All right. We have one repeat violation. We have CE 23-767.
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The address is 215 Riverside Drive. I'm submitting a packet of documents and photos associated with this case.
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photos actually depict the property during my visits and show my findings
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permit required appendix A, article 15, section 2A for the unpermitted alterations and or installation of windows, doors, electrical, and plumbing. I visited the site four times. During my first inspection, I found the property in violation of the above-mentioned sections of the city code.
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last inspection on August 17, 2023, the property remains in violation. I've been working on this case since July 5, 2023, and have had contact with a contractor and lawyer on behalf of the property owner.
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brought this case before the code enforcement board.
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and the violations have not been fully resolved,
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this is a rental unit. I sent the notice of hearing on July 5, 2023, and it will send certified and posted on the property in violation.
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23-767 that the owner is in violation and recommend
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a correction. I recommend the fine of $500 to be imposed for each day the violation remains until compliance is achieved.
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Mr. Chairman, I have a question
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You said you've been working the case for 45 days. Is it pretty standard for a repeat violation to come before the board so quickly? Yes.
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Okay.
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They have to be scheduled at the next immediate board.
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Yeah, based on the statute, the violation begins when we send them their notice of violation and notify them.
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we take them to the first available code board thereafter.
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Okay. And then my next question was that you did have contact with a lawyer and with a contractor and what type of contact was that? Was it agreeable? Did they seem like they were going to be moving forward or were they argumentative? How did you feel about those conversations?
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It wasn't very argumentative between the lawyer. I didn't have much contact with the lawyer except for requesting an extension for today.
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in violation the first time. So he's aware of the issues and in speaking with him, he's not argumentative and wants to give a good estimate and based off of his prior work there, he believes that there may be other work done without permit as well. So he's going to give me a follow-up here later.
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Yes. Before we have? Yes. So they're familiar with the process?
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Yes. They were found in violation for the same thing regarding the staircase and some other doors that
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The fine ran for a while and then he did come in for a lien reduction.
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contact with the property owner over the last couple years, but he continues to do work on this apartment complex with no permits.
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Thank you for the additional clarification, sirs. You're welcome.
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And just to be clear, this was $500 a day?
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Yes,
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sir. Okay.
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Is there any other discussion on the board?
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be found in noncompliance. or Fine of $500 per day be opposed until compliance is achieved. Do you second, Mr. Lightholder? Second.
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I have a motion on the floor by Mr. Davis,
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All in favor say aye. Aye. Those opposed? Motion passed unanimously. Noncompliance. Item number one, CE22-475.
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The address is 213 Factory Street.
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submitting photos that I took through my re-inspections of the property. They accurately depict the property during my visits. This case is brought to the Code Board on April 20th, 2023 and was found in violation of site plan approval required, appendix A, article 13. section 1B for the alterations made to the property without a site plan. The board order compliance date was July 20th, 2023 and that Board Order was to remove the
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is an unapproved substance. I sent the notice of hearing for noncompliance
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and it was sent certified and posted. At this time, the property remains in violation with no progress or contact from the property owner since the hearing date.
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He's actually painted lines. It doesn't look like he has any intention to remove the millings.
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And when he was in here last, he said, we're going to get it done. Yes, sir.
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Yes, sir.
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I would also like to just add for the record, Mr. Chairman, the Board actually divided this case into two separate orders. One was to remove the millings in a specific set of time, 90 days, and then gave him additional time to work on gaining the site plan through
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So there was actually two separate orders. That's why only the millings is here today.
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you.
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the order for the millings, although I was well aware that was part of it. So a little bit of a miscommunication there. But you said it was delivered certified.
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‸ It's good
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to send regular mail, sir.
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regular mail.
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the order for the
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But I'm not claiming I'm not aware because it was in the meeting. But I've been going down the road trying to get the site plan done. I contacted four civil engineers because I was a little bit confused on just what I needed for a site plan.
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I contacted
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and I tried to use the smaller companies. And I got the same reply from all that it was just too small of a project they couldn't take.
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paperwork to these people and then two, three weeks later they'd come back and say, we can't take it. We're too busy. We're working on big site plans. ‸ So I just wasn't successful in finding anybody to even do it. And then the question was always asked, well, what does the city
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want,
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full site plan? And I'd get these crazy estimates of $25,000 or $35,000 to do a complete site plan. I'm not familiar with what that is exactly. But today, yesterday I had a conference call with a city manager trying to get some clarity. And I think it was Kristen who was on that call. And I do understand now that there's a small site plan and they told me where to find that on the city website and everything. So I'm going to go down that road. I do need to get the property in compliance. I own the building behind it. I've invested about
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and I need the extra parking, which is my intent from day one.
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because I don't know, a long time, 15 years ‸ at least, I don't know, ‸ maybe Dennis knows that it's been an AT&T storage lot. So I assumed that I could just, a big assumption, obviously that I could convert it to a parking lot because it was, ‸ you know, that's ‸ basically what it was for storage yard for junk.
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‸ And
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I actually did the improvements. As you can see, I made it into a very nice parking lot. I understand the millings weren't an approved substance. That's on me.
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check into that. The contractor told me they were. and I actually parked there for, I think,
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because I had my RV parked there
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had complained, which,
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We, I complied with that finally. But what I'm here now, ‸ I do want to continue down this road, but I need, I'll need some more time. So my other, what I'm asking is my other, uh,
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But I'd like a little additional time for that because I don't see it as being a long process. Well,
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hiccups, you should have called Dennis or someone to help you at that point because at this point, at this very moment in which your case is in,
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either compliant or non-compliant. That's the only thing we're here for now because that's, that's where it is now. Okay. Well, I'm asking for more time. We, we don't have the leeway to give you more time. This, it's in non-compliant now.
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Yeah. The time to give you more time would have been on April 20th on the hearing date. That's when the timeline was established. So we can't go back in time and change that. ‸ And I, I remember that hearing very well because I,
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was the person that made the motion. and me and you had a dialogue at that meeting and you understood very well that the millings were not approved.
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He said, regardless of how the site plan goes, the millings were never going to be permitted, that they were only allowed in industrial areas in the city. And even then there were additional constraints that were put on the properties and that this type of property is in a consent decree area. and because of that, there's no way that millings are ever going to be approved.
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you agreed to it on that day.
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And so that's why we're back here is because
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Okay. So, and you've already admitted on the record that you know, um, that you had the 90 days, that you understand that it's not in compliance. So I think I'm ready to make a motion.
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Well, I'd like to speak.
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Um,
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the last several meetings, so I'm kind of out of the loop on this, but, you know, I realize
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but that being said, him trying to get a civil engineer to get this resolved in 60 or 90 days is almost impossible.
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got a project
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trying to get civil engineers to finish up. That being said, when we at least, you know, hold off and make them remove the millings because the milling is a suitable sub base. Exactly.
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what I found. Yeah.
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he's not qualified to draw a minor site plan himself, obviously, and meet all the requirements. He takes a civil engineer and several meetings with the city to resolve that. And, you know, I just feel that we're putting
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at some point as soon as he can get some drawings.
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Well, ‸ do you remember what fine we put per day, what it's going to be running at?
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If it's not going to be approved and it remains as a consent decree residential area, it's going to have to be removed regardless.
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Yeah.
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‸ Currently, it's zoned consent decree.
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I'm talking about in our order on the 20th, what was the dollar and the fine? Do you know?
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just one fine. I
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mean, so it was still just
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$25 a day, I believe is what was on the order. But you didn't find it per violations when you split. You just found it into one. I would also like to mention ‸ whether Mr. Lightholder was here or not. The bigger problem here is the fact that this is a consent decree and meetings were held, and ‸ the parking lot as a standalone is not going to be allowed in a consent decree. And whatever AT&T did when they left, they lost whatever grandfathering they had.
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The longer part is because he's going to try to join the apartment complex and this property to make it one parcel, which we don't know if that's going to happen. So
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Mr.
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said he would remove the millings because he would end up paving anyway. That's how we got here. But at the end of the day, this is a consent decree. This was actually done and performed without any approvals whatsoever. Meetings were held with the city. So there was general knowledge of what was transpiring at this location.
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he joins those two properties together because it would be denied because in the consent decree,
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can't just make a parking lot.
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Thank you for the clarification.
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I've done some research on this as well. So on the consent decree, the way I read it, it's ‸ if it changes use. It never went out of use. I mean, it never went out of, it never became a dormant property.
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me, it remains what it was zoned when it was AT&T. I may be wrong.
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Okay,
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and Mr. Chair, there's a difference between overflow from a business and creating a complete parking lot. So you can try to wiggle that in there, but it is two separate uses at the end of the day.
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That's a big difference between paving it and creating parking spaces for parking. So I understand what Mr. Levin-Sailor is stating. However, the consent decree is specific and you can't just continue to change and manufacture. Actually, the idea of the consent decree was that these properties would go back to being residential and have businesses that benefited the residential structure of the consent decree. That is not a parking lot. So we can debate the consent decree.
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city of Coco. So that can be debated, but this is where we are. And again, the board is the one that made the motion to split our violation into the two. So that's why we're here today.
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Okay. Then I need to also back up.
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the first one was on, was with Mr. Body on September 22. I actually had a meeting where I actually asked him
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lot. Will be the same. And he said, yes. And that was before I bought the property. This is why I'm feeling a little aggrieved. So I, based on that, I bought the property. Now, maybe that's my bad, but I went to the city, asked for a meeting with Mr.
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He pulled out, he gave me printed copies, which I have in my file of the usage of that property. And it said, just like Mr. Dennis said, it was, ‸ it was a junkyard. It was full of spools and junk and buildings and shacks. And I took all that out. So I improved this property greatly.
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I took it out.
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after I bought the property.
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just, I came in, I said, I just want to make sure that I can make a parking lot here. And she also told me, yes, according to the 49, it's 49, 4900 storage.
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It listed a whole lot of stuff, including vehicles. Now it did say storage of vehicles and not residential parking like Kristen had mentioned to me on our phone call yesterday.
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you know, I'm feeling a bit of grief because I had two meetings with the cities and one of you just said that I didn't. And I did two meetings and I had the notes from the meetings and I have the pamphlets and I have the printed out, um, zoning that they gave me. And this is what I based my decision on. I bought the property and I had to buy and I had to buy AT&T out of the rest of their lease. And that was a, you know, that was a legal hassle. So it was a continuous use. It went right from AT&T using it to me improving it in three days.
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me I had a big pile of dirt right in that picture. And sadly it was the guy that passed away, but he said, just make sure you get this mess cleaned up when you're done. And the contractor was working, he was putting the millions down right in plain sight. ‸ So I didn't, you know,
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you had a very good understanding.
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I did. I'm not denying that. But when I, when I started trying to get a site plan done and realizing, you know, these quotes I was getting.
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But a part of the case on the 20th did involve you having to remove the fence. So I don't know.
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And then the fence that you have there, wasn't that a part of the, the site plan is required for you to. Have that fence. Yeah.
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it, there was nothing came up with that.
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is whatever comes of the site plan will come. We just separated
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true that way. So the fence may come or may go depending on what happens
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a site plan and what approval is there.
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but you
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to know, ‸ which we did cover
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on the 20th. We went through this and
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we also
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discussed that a city ‸ employee can't override the federal consent decree. The consent decree is what the consent decree is. Now, Ms. Leon.
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Okay. So that never came up Dennis until you cited me that I never knew a thing about this degree.
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Because again, I will just reiterate the proper procedure, even if you went in and
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to somebody about what could be done in that zone would still be to submit this information for approval. That was not done. A conversation regarding ‸ parking lots, um, took place.
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There was also
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That's not being brought up now, but was brought up on
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you might want to keep your eye on this because this is what's going on. You still need approval before you laid any millions down before you did any work.
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[00:56:28] Speaker 7
I'm saying that that parking lot is different than what was there previous under the consent decree. And I do not believe it would be allowed now, but we won't know that until he actually goes through his plans and what he intends to do on the property. And as a standalone property, it's definitely not going to be able to be a parking lot. So we don't even know if he's going to conjoin the two lots and get that done.
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[00:56:53] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
a consent decree area and I don't know where the consent decree area is or where it's not. But I know that we did discuss it on the 20th in great detail that Mr. Bunt was very detailed about what the requirements were in the property.
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having my RV there.
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[00:57:14] Speaker 4
Well, that was April 20th and now
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Hold on. I don't want to
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keep beating a dead horse because the bottom line is what we're here for right now is. Compliant or non-compliant. If someone wants to make a motion to table this, I'm fine with that. But we're not going to keep going back and forth on this and why this happened, that happened.
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Because
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hold on.
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on and again, the bottom line is all we're here now is for is compliant or non-compliant. That's all we can do for you. We can't give you any more time.
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finish with the permitting process. So when I first got cited for the gate, which you see right there and the and the millings, I went in and in arrears and submitted two permits for each. ‸ And they devised me that it wasn't a commercial property. It was a residential property. I have an email right here with a city bounced it back saying you need to put these permits in as a commercial property.
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got finalized and done. And then all of a sudden they said, well, it's not a commercial property, even though your own building and building department made me submit the permits.
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Is it commercial? Is
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it
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residential? Is it under the decree? What?
[00:59:25] Speaker 3
Well, I
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think Mr. Lighthold is going to
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do something here to try and help you out.
[00:59:29] Speaker 10
I'd like to
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I'll second it.
[01:00:17] Speaker 5
And it was Zach,
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advising any particular person as far as any particular company.
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I don't think that. I mean, I think it's okay. I think that's okay. I mean, ‸ you're just. No doubt. Yeah. No, I mean, I think you're just making a suggestion.
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[01:00:52] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I just want to make sure that we are covered. So I have a motion on the floor to table for
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[01:01:14] Speaker 3
Well, I have a motion on
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Hughes. So take your pick on which one. All in favor say aye. Aye. Those opposed? All right. Motion to table
[01:01:28] Speaker 3 · Machine re-recognized
is
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passed unanimously.
[01:01:30] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice
Okay. So
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make sure I'm clear to submit to the dentist a timeline.
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[01:01:40] Speaker 3
All right. Bottom line, because you need to try and get whatever this is cleared up. Yeah. I
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want to.
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just want to get it resolved. Yeah. Right. That's right.
[01:01:49] Speaker 10
We just want to get it resolved.
[01:01:50] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Yeah, I do too. Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you.
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So let's just get
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it resolved.
[01:01:54] Speaker 5
Thank you, sir. All right.
[01:01:58] Speaker 3
All right.
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I'm submitting a packet of photos that I took during my re-inspections of the property to accurately depict the property during my visits.
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and was found in violation of the
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of trash and litter, Section
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District Intent, RU
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Appendix A, Article 11, Section 3, for the unpermitted use of the property. This property is
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a single-family residential district and is currently being used to store
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storage containers, and sheds. The fence has an approval for life safety reasons, but none for the unpermitted use storage.
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[01:03:06] Speaker 14
I sent a notice of hearing for non compliance on July 27th, 2023, and it was sent certified and posted some progress has been made. And my last contact with the property owner was on July 24th, 2023 informing him. His compliance
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was the 15th of July and the property was not in compliance. ‸ Also
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the property owner that when progress was made to contact me for inspection to confirm the compliance at this time, the property remains in violation and the property owner is present.
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[01:04:04] Speaker 6
Thank you.
[01:04:06] Speaker 3
Mr. Thomas.
[01:04:08] Speaker 15
Yes.
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What can you tell us here, sir?
[01:04:12] Speaker 15
As you see the pictures right there, so
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trash and stuff that was brought off of the property out to the road.
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[01:04:20] Speaker 15
It's not my fault. And talking about the storage unit, he said a shed trailers and everything else that was on the property. I moved to trailers also removed the shed that was over there.
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was the
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box in the, you see the jump house. That's my daughter bounce house. That was over there in order to pull it out of the water and the mud that's back there. No cars, no vehicles.
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‸ Mr.
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equipment back there because, uh, the ground is exaggerated with water
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it's
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real soft back there. So if you go back there and try to pick the context box up with a tow truck or any kind of vehicles, it's going to get stuck.
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There's money. It's all wet. So when they
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to
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I can do about that God working. So I can't do nothing about that.
[01:05:25] Speaker 3
So now about the, the permit, I know we had a deal about a fence before the
[01:05:35] Speaker 15
fence, the fence was already approved. That's that's besides that ain't got nothing to do with that.
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[01:05:46] Speaker 15
The only thing you see on there is the connects box and nobody want to drive the equipment back there and get stuck.
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[01:05:55] Speaker 15
You can't see it now because of the grass, but it's a lot of mud and it's real soft back there.
[01:06:01] Speaker 7
Mr. Chair, as we mentioned in the last hearing, um, he received an approval to sign an agreement with the city to ‸ fence in a vacant parcel of land. Um, he never went back and got his permit.
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[01:06:17] Speaker 7
Then the,
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an
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agreement was written and then he should have got his permit, but there's nothing in the system that says that permit was ever, the fence was ever permitted or approved. I also don't have in the record, a copy of the signed agreement that was written for that, which might be part of the reason why it was never finished permitting. So, Mr. Thomas is correct. He was granted that option and an agreement was written. And whether it was actually executed via signatures and the permit pulled that has not been done.
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[01:06:52] Speaker 7
connex boxes, if they're going to be used as a shared have to be permitted if they're going to be on a property. ‸ And then the shed, he has removed the shed and stuff. There's just the connex box in the back. And then he has to get a, a fence permit and find out what's going on with the agreement. The agreement was written. I don't have a signed copy anywhere in laser fish or in any files that I can find where it was actually executed, you know, through signatures.
[01:07:20] Speaker 15
I signed it. I gave it to his wife when his wife was up here,
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because
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[01:07:26] Speaker 15
We talked and
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because at that time,
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I met with him. And before that it was Jake Williams and all of them. I signed the paper and gave it to miss a bunch before she went to Melbourne or whatever. So if they lost my paperwork, that has nothing to do with.
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I go get the permit
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because
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you applied for the permit. It was denied. Now I go reactivate that permit based.
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[01:08:02] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice
So I would get with the building department and, you know, grab the agreement and then just get your permit reinstated to get that. Done. However, in any agreement, it does state what use can be used with the fence there. So you can't use it for storage or anything like that. That's actually written in the original agreement that you can't use this vacant piece of land to store equipment and stuff on there.
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if he can get, if he's got the agreement or he goes to building
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[01:08:31] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice
getting the fence permit is an easy fix on that.
[01:08:35] Speaker 3
So if he doesn't have a copy of the agreement and you don't have a copy of the agreement, is there any way to have that recreated?
[01:08:46] Speaker 7
Well, yes, it could be.
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to see if they have it in one of their files. I just don't have it in my files and I don't see a copy on laser fish.
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[01:09:00] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
If you don't have a copy and he don't have a copy, how do you know what it says? Because you, you testified that it said that he couldn't use it for storage, but you also said that you don't have a copy. So how can you tell me that it says this when you don't have a copy?
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I can
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tell
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you that because a couple of fence agreements were written at the same time.
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out what the attorneys offers, what the agreement is supposed to be for a vacant parcel of land. And they would never give him authorization to use that other than for fencing office property. So that's why I can confidently say that.
[01:09:40] Speaker 15
What I can do is, um, I can open up my phone and go back to when, um,
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[01:09:46] Speaker 15
Mr. Williams was the, uh, mayor here. So what he did, he came out, he looked at the property, Mr. Jay Williams, and I showed him what
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fence attachment and everything was.
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[01:10:02] Speaker 15
as a fence ‸ repair. So I did it as a fence repair because I was showing them because the property, the only reason I got the property is because it has some to mental value. My uncle used to have a house right there. And then there's no structure. If you go over to the left, you will see where the, uh, sub to tank and all that stuff was. So it's still structural went over there.
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had this meeting that if I'm renting the house and I have, I can, I can access and use the ‸ place like I wanted to, ‸ you know what I'm
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Because I'm renting the
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And that's why ‸ the fence up there. And like I said, it's, it's exaggerated. What I would have had it moved, ‸ moved it over to the other property or whatever, but I can't because it's wet back there. It's muddy. So nobody's going to come in and bring that truck in and take a chance on tearing this stuff up and try to move it. And I did stop him and ask him. He told me to leave the gate open so he can come take pictures.
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[01:11:28] Speaker 15
He has no business even seeing ‸ anyway. Now, Mr. Murdoch died and he told me before he passed away, listen, Mr. Thomas, you got approved for the fence. Uh, whatever's on the property is on the property and it has nothing to do with me. So they approve you to have the fence. I'm just closing my case. The case was closed and he came and reopened the case. Why? I don't know. I mean, before all he had to do was tell me, I mean,
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talked with you and other people. If you tell me to move something in them and violation of something, I do what I can to move it. You know what I'm
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[01:12:03] Speaker 15
Ain't like I got a million dollars.
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want, I want, I would like to turn the connects box into a little tiny home. You know what I'm
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saying?
[01:12:11] Speaker 15
If I could, that's, I was going down there trying to get the permits to do all that.
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put wheels on it and say, it's my camp or a trailer, I'm allowed to sleep on my
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[01:12:28] Speaker 15
me a violation of the property, which it violated me on
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[01:12:35] Speaker 15
So the lady gave me an eviction notice. I mean, come out to 10 years of
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10 years.
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was still 10 years. And then the only reason they got like that, because I had
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of their mistake.
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[01:13:10] Speaker 2
a vote on the permit required? Because that seems to be so in question. But the other three can be found in violation or corrected.
[01:13:21] Speaker 7
Excuse me, Mr. Chair. Yes sir. I don't think the permit required is, is in dispute. There is no fence permit on the record.
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[01:13:33] Speaker 7
And then the connex boxes require a permit to be on the property. Okay. So I don't think that there was a dispute in that. It just takes him going to the building department and obtaining these permits.
[01:13:45] Speaker 15 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Okay. Well, I, but he's
[01:13:46] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
going to remove the connex box
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[01:13:47] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
he has to do it. The issue that's before you today is that he's been found in violations of these. He hasn't corrected them. If he's found in noncompliance and he corrects them a week from now or a month from now, he can always come back before the board for a lien reduction. And then these issues can be addressed at that time. But the fence has no permit. There's no dispute about that. If you look in the system, it says fence permit denied. And that was, that's what started the whole situation. And then he should have went back and got the fence permit.
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[01:14:21] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
permit. He's removed some of that, but the connex box is right there behind the fence panel, which you can see over top of the fence. So whether the gates open or not, you know, there's a connex box there. If he wants to keep it, he has to get a permit. If he's going to remove it, he has to remove it, but it needs to, we gave him a period of time to remove that. So I just don't think that the permit required is in dispute. I think the evidence is right there.
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[01:14:53] Speaker 7
There's still accumulation of trash and litter.
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They're
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[01:14:56] Speaker 7
still storing outdoors. Even a bounce house being stored on a vacant lot is still a violation.
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[01:15:06] Speaker 7
have a vacant lot that you can store items in. It's just not approved based on zoning.
[01:15:10] Speaker 2
Okay.
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[01:15:13] Speaker 2
non-compliance on all of
[01:15:16] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
it. Right. And then when Mr. Tom, Mr. Thomas is working on it, he's removed a shed and a connex box and he's pulling stuff out of there now and threw it out by the edge of the road. If he's in non-compliance, as soon as he's in compliance, he can fill out a form and come back before the board and get a lien reduction.
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[01:15:36] Speaker 4
I don't think that means that they're going to pick that up.
[01:15:39] Speaker 7
Well, there's an issue with that as well. He's going to have to call waste management and see. The problem is he put it in front of the vacant lot. And since he's not paying utilities and stuff on the vacant lot, waste management may not pick it up.
[01:15:51] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Do you understand that,
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sir?
[01:15:53] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I just want to make sure you understand.
[01:15:54] Speaker 15 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Sir, they always, I mean, even my next door enable
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[01:16:03] Speaker 15 + overlapping voice
always pick it up when you make the phone call.
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[01:16:07] Speaker 15 + overlapping voice
And if you go back to the next meeting, how he just explained about getting the permits and doing this and that, that wasn't that didn't come out like that in that last meeting. You know what I'm
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saying?
[01:16:19] Speaker 15
It didn't come out like that. Cause that had ‸ been like that. Then of course I would have went down there and got that.
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[01:16:26] Speaker 15
And then he says the, uh, the bounce house in order for me to, uh, I just drove the bounce house out the other day.
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[01:16:38] Speaker 15
full of water. So you have to wait, try to get the water off, blow it up and get it off of there. Um, as I've said,
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[01:16:48] Speaker 15
He said, I've been doing anything. There was a shared that was there.
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[01:16:55] Speaker 15
All that has been moved off of the property. So to say that I wasn't doing anything, I even spoke with you and you told me to go and talk with Mr. Munster. I say, sir, what can I do?
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[01:17:06] Speaker 15
Now I've been calling up, leaving messages. I stood out in the middle of the road and tried to stop him. And he,
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[01:17:15] Speaker 7
Chair, first of all,
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correct the record. I did not say he didn't do anything. I actually gave him credit for removing the shed, any items and for cleaning out the issues that are there now. But he had a compliance date, which was July 20th. These are photos from August 17th. He didn't meet the compliance date set by the board. And I did mention the same thing about permitting at the last hearing. I'm pretty steadfast in the way I portray things. I did mention about the fence permit in the last meeting. And it expressed to him if he wants to keep the shed and the cargo container, he would have to go to building.
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[01:17:55] Speaker 7
accessory structures on a vacant lot. Now, if he owned the house next door, which this was also discussed, he could conjoin the lots and that would change the whole outlook of the situation. But it's a rental.
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[01:18:11] Speaker 7
road that he pulled out and cleaned up and he's kept the front clear. But at this date on August 17th, these violations all exist on this property. And he's on his way to get them to answer Mr. Davis's question. If he knows waste management picks it up. Great. If they don't, he's gonna ‸ have to call them and get it picked up.
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[01:18:35] Speaker 7
And then, like I said, if there's a fine that's levied here today based on noncompliance, he can come back. We'll remember this case, this board, and he can project then and then the board, it's up to the board what they want to reduce the amount to, you know, whatever it could be. So we're not, he's not dead in the water now. He still gets another bite of the apple after he comes into compliance.
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[01:18:59] Speaker 7
July 20th, there were still issues on the property. The fence permit can be fixed over the counter.
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[01:19:21] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Um, ‸ I remember that discussion pretty well. And so I just want to go on the record as saying that I remember you mentioning that as well. And
[01:19:30] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Mr. Thomas really needs a house and I've actually even went to the housing department and made suggestions. I had to go back twice because the one lady that was here left and they hired new people. But I would like to see Mr. Thomas get assistance and be able to put the house, which has long since been demolished, back on the property and, um, do it that way.
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because
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he needs a home, but we still have to do things according to, to the way the code is written.
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Stephanie Carter gallon.
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[01:20:20] Speaker 16 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Um, so, um, Mr. Bunt, um, can you tell me what, what does Terry have to do? Um, can we ask for an extension on this? And what does he necessarily have to do to get this clear?
[01:20:33] Speaker 7
Okay. This is a non compliance hearing.
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Okay. It was
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given
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there's
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give
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[01:21:12] Speaker 7
an accessory structure permit without a primary structure. Other than that,
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Okay.
[01:21:19] Speaker 7
He already moved all the pool and the debris and other stuff, and he got rid of a shed. So we're this close. But then after it's all done, he can't go back to putting stuff behind the fence as storage because it's just a vacant lot.
[01:21:32] Speaker 16 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
So can I ask your question? Mm-hmm. Once he get the fence permit for the vacant lot, is that what we're trying to do?
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Yes.
[01:21:41] Speaker 7
What happened is he applied for one. He was denied because you can't fence in vacant property. Right. But then he went through process, and it went to the council, and ‸ they determined that they would do an agreement with him.
[01:21:53] Speaker 5
Mm-hmm.
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He says he's got the agreement. They did it. Now he just needs to go back and activate that permit and go, because when you look in the system now, it says fence denied.
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Okay. But I
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know it's not denied because I know there was an agreement written.
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Yes. So once he get that done with the fence and everything,
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[01:22:19] Speaker 7
It would still require a permit.
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Okay.
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a primary structure issue. There's no house. There's no primary unit. So you can't have an accessory if you don't have a primary. So what if you want to make it into one? That he has to talk to the building officials. When he goes up to get the fence permit, that would be something I would discuss with the building official. Or if he has another idea of how to put a house on that property, he would discuss with them.
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Gotcha.
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So that's where we are. And like
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I said
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in regards to getting in touch with Mr. Thomas about trying to get him either financing or assistance in building a house. Right. And I'm assuming
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just been swamped.
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So that's what I'm saying. He's he's almost there. Yeah. Let's get it done. And then whatever he fixes, he can always come back and tell the board. They'll remember this case and the strides he's made, and he can ask for a lien reduction.
[01:23:21] Speaker 16
He's going to have some help with that because I think for the legal, the legality of the situation, he's not aware of it, but he has
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help now.
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‸ I'm telling you exactly what needs to be done and we can get it done. Okay. So, okay.
[01:23:41] Speaker 15
And again, with the water being there, it's
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the water, I mean,
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And it's during the time of moving all the stuff, it's been rainy season. So
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[01:24:00] Speaker 3
‸ So still with you ‸ be found in non-compliance, once you get everything done and it's clear, that's when the
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stop. And after that point, you can come back for the lien reduction.
[01:24:15] Speaker 1
Okay.
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Yeah.
[01:24:17] Speaker 13
Thank you. So Mr. Chair,
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make a motion that
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and we follow recommendations.
[01:24:29] Speaker 3
Second. I have a motion on the floor by Mr. Simpson. Second by Mr. Davis.
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Aye.
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All opposed. Motion passes unanimously. All right. On to item number three, CE 22-673.
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I'm submitting photos that I took to my re-inspections of the property. They actually depict the property during my visits. This case was brought to the code board on May 18, 2023 and we found in violation of the permit required.
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AC units and windows. The board ordered compliance date was July 17, 2023. I sent the notice of hearing for non-compliance on July 27, 2023 and it was sent certified and posted. There has been no progress made and I have had contact with a property owner who's been unable to hire a contractor. At this time, the property remains in violation.
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All in favor, say aye. Aye. Those opposed. Motion passed unanimously. Item number
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CE 22-828.
[01:25:51] Speaker 14
Address is 1050 West King Street.
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The property that we depict the property during my visits, this case is brought to
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And was found in violation of accumulation of trash and litter section 6, 900 B1, a 3 D boarded up building section 6, 900
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G. The board
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9th, 2023 for man search shingles only, not the structure's roof. The scope of work did not address the decking, the underlayment or any other parts of the roof. I sent the notice of hearing for noncompliance on July 27th, 2023, and it was said certified and posted. There has been some progress made and I have had contact with a property owner who was present. At this time, the property remains in violation.
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Forward. Okay. Okay, so we've been trying to
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this for quite some time now. We did a lot of work there even this weekend. We're there for another three days with two guys cleaning everything up. That area that's there right on King Street and Fisk is a mess. ‸ We have been there numerous times, myself with other people. The people that live on the street, and everybody can
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it is just a constant problem.
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We have brought more people in.
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[01:27:53] Speaker 1
And it's just an ongoing saga that does not stop, and it's not about to stop. I mean, we've been in front of the board here. You know, maybe we could put chain link fence up. No, we can't do that. Maybe we could do this.
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We're trying to sell that property right there and right now.
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whatnot.
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[01:28:22] Speaker 1
They already did have the permits and everything. Today I was with them again saying, when are you guys going to come here and start? Well, Mr. French,
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[01:28:31] Speaker 1
So they gave me what they call a letter of compliance. Even with this letter of compliance, they're still four weeks out. So, I mean, I don't know what to say about any of this.
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We bleached it. We pressure cleaned it this weekend. You know, there were many things that were there that have now been solved. You know, there is still more things to go. And that is all with the roofing company. You know, you
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for us to get the, okay, for the permit. The permit has been issued. And we're waiting for them to come to do the work.
[01:29:14] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice
Mr. Chair, just for the record, so we stay on track. He was never cited to get a permit. He's the one that mentioned that he was going to have a roofer come in to fix the roofs and drainage violation, which would require a permit. As of today, the roof has not been touched. No work has been done. The fascia still needs painting. There's still chips and marks on the stucco that need to be fixed.
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Excuse me. And there's still boarded up windows where you can see the notices posted. He can only board a window for 30 days and it has to be painted the same color of the property. We are well past that.
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was never cited.
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to pull a permit, nothing still has been fixed as of today.
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But also, you know, there are other things that are there.
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mean, that we have complied with ‸ in the beginning. You asked me to, since the
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was going to be up for the hurricane season to paint all that to match the brick on the outside, which we did. Well, you can see on all of those are all done. So we've been trying to comply with you guys every step of
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I mean,
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I don't know what else to do.
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I keep running in circles here.
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November. We've been dancing through this.
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for the record, this case started in November of 2022. And the property looks exactly the same as
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did in 2022, with the exception of the pieces of wood and garbage in the parking lot were picked up. But it's a chronic issue with the trash and litter. That's the least of my worries concerning the condition of this building and this man should and everything that's there. So he is not in compliance. These pictures look exactly like they did at the last board in May.
[01:31:27] Speaker 4
Mr. ‸ Do you think the fact that he's hired a contractor and that a permit has been pulled for the roof is an indication of him ‸ to try and come into compliance?
[01:31:40] Speaker 7
No, because we started the case in November of 2022. The permit just got for what date? We
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And I have the reproof of that too.
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So the permit was just approved on August
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was approved.
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August 9th.
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Right.
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But the roof is still in bad condition.
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So the permit that you got for your roof was actually after your compliance date?
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We paid for, we paid for pit crew to go to get the permit. They went there. It was approved after this date. It was approved.
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What date was the application put in?
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I don't have it for me, but I'm sure that he should be able to tell you that way before that.
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application online today. It doesn't mean I have a permit. The permit is there when it's issued. So there's reviews and stuff. So they may have filled out the permit in June. They didn't submit everything they needed for approval, and it didn't get issued until August 9th. However,
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so the shingles falling off. But that's the face.
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on the side of the building. Those all need to be addressed. That's what we brought before this board in May. That's what was ruled upon. I submit as of today, this building looks the same as when we took the pictures back in May.
[01:33:16] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice
And I understand having to hire a contractor and get a new roof, because I actually just did that. I don't know if you know this, but we had a horrible hailstorm pass through Cocoa about, I don't know, it was it, eight weeks ago? It did horrible damage to my house. If anyone had been ‸ standing outside my house during that
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event, they probably would have been injured enough to go to the hospital. So I was able to get an entirely new roof, permits, hiring contractors, all of that within this time period. I'm telling you that I did it personally myself. I hired a contractor. The work was completed. It's all been done within a 90-day period. So while I understand your frustrations, I'm telling you my personal experience hasn't been quite like yours, I've been able to find contractors who are wanting to come to work today.
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Yeah,
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you're allowed to pick whoever you want. I'm just saying I haven't experienced the same delays that you have personally. Oh, you have?
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I have put on a
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‸ With that being said, I do appreciate you coming today and giving testimony before the board.
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We've been trying to work with you people now for the last year and a half. You know,
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I
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encourage you to continue to work with Mr. Gonzalez. In this case,
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[01:34:52] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
resource for you moving forward.
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Isn't that true that I've been ‸ even coming to your office to try to speak to you time and time again?
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I mean, it just reflects into a lot of other things that I'm trying to do. So
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[01:35:12] Speaker 1
to do.
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[01:35:14] Speaker 4
Well, make sure you keep those lines of communication open.
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[01:35:25] Speaker 4
Second.
[01:35:27] Speaker 3
I have a motion on the floor by Mr. Davis, seconded by Mr. Otero. All in favor say aye.
[01:35:32] Speaker 4
Aye.
[01:35:33] Speaker 3
Those opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[01:35:37] Speaker 4
And Mr. Chair.
[01:35:39] Speaker 3
Yes, sir.
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[01:35:44] Speaker 4
We have
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nothing else. ‸ No one else has anything.
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I
[01:35:52] Speaker 13
got.
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Did we
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talk about a clock one time before?
[01:36:00] Speaker 3
Yes, we did. What was our discussion?
[01:36:05] Speaker 13
We need to talk about the clock and putting them having a clock, a timer.
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No, because we're quasi judicial. So everybody has a right to present their cases, staff and the citizens. So you can ‸ move
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present their case before you as they see fit, just like in court.
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[01:36:37] Speaker 4
to put together like a short training based on the new stuff that's come up from the courts on our motions and just how we can proceed forward so that we're not so long winded like we were today? Maybe we could just send something out
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[01:36:54] Speaker 4
training document for ‸ review on how to make motions going forward. I'd appreciate that.
[01:36:59] Speaker 7
Thank you.
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to arrange a workshop or something to go over with the board because we do have new members and we may want to discuss sunshine law and some other items as well.
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[01:37:20] Speaker 7
to set something up and what we can do.
[01:37:24] Speaker 3
And with that being said,
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