City Council

City Council Regular Meeting

Date: 2024-09-03
Status: City minutes and machine transcript available
Source: CivicClerk event #531

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Attendance (the roll call)

Listed present when the roll was taken: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Patricia Weeks, Lorraine Koss, NOT PRESENT Alex Goins
(Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines.)
Absences: no absence line could be read from the minutes' text, so none is stated here; the first page of the minutes is the record.
Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Kristin Eick (Asst. City Attorney), Stockton Whitten (City Manager), Lori Chabot (Recording Secretary), Abigail Morgan (Public Works Director), Rebecca Bowman (Finance Director), Anthony Marchica (Police Lieutenant), Jack Walsh (Utilities Director), Tammy Gemmati (Administrative Services Director), Samantha Senger (Communications & Economic Development Director), Corbin Gilbert (Help Desk Support Tech)
Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (3)

to dopt Resolution No. 2024-083 adopting a tentative millage rate of 6.9532 mills, for the City of Cocoa, commencing on October 1, 2024, and ending on September 30, 2025 (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 3
to adopt Resolution No. 2024 -084 adopting the FY2025 tentative budget and CIP for the City of Cocoa Fiscal Year, commencing on October 1, 2024 and ending on September 30, 2025 (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 4
to adjourn the 1st Budget Hearing of September 3, 2024 (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 4

Agenda (the City's wording)

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Transcript Partial transcript

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Pledge of Allegiance

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Invocation will be performed by Deputy Mayor Hearn, and then we will do roll call, and then I will turn it over to the city manager, and we will proceed in that order. Would everyone please stand for all glory.

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the republic for which it stands, one nation, honor God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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remain standing.

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If you all will join me in prayer. Dear Heavenly Father, I'd like to give thanks for allowing us to arrive here safely at the beautiful City Hall this evening. I ask that you continue to watch over our city, watch over our neighbors as well, as we endeavor the rest of this year.

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best decisions on behalf of the citizens of Cocoa. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen.

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Madam Clerk.

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Blake.

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Present, ma'am. Deputy Mayor Hearn. Present. Council Member Weeks. Here.

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Council Member Koss. Here. Assistant City Attorney Ike.

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Here.

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We will proceed in this order. We will ‸ have this discussion about the budget hearing. I have one card as it states right now. I would like to turn it over to the City Manager, but we will have a public hearing with two items, two adoptions for a resolution, and we'll proceed in that order. Okay. Everyone should have their itinerary in front of them.

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Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'll turn it over to Mrs. Bowman, and she's going to take you through the presentation.

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Thank you, Mr. Winton.

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I'll show you in just a moment, but we're going to adopt a tentative millage rate and

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attentive

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budget. So, as I said, the two things you're going to do. First, I'll take you through the millage rate comparisons. The note up there states that the

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tenant

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millage cannot exceed the millage rate adopted by City Council ‸ on July 23rd. That can happen, but we would have to redo all of our trim steps all over again if Council wanted to do that. Note that the fiscal year 2025 budget was developed with an assumption

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state requires for us to do to support our ongoing capital needs and operational needs. And then the second step in this process, I'll run you through the budget numbers, and then I'll request for Council to adopt the tentative budget for fiscal year 2025.

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And then go forward.

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Okay.

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tentative budget, we will set a second public hearing. It is, again, not on a regularly scheduled Council meeting date because the school board, would be meeting on the same date as the city council meeting.

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And

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so the state statute says we cannot meet on the same date as the school board. So that's why we're doing a little bit differently this year. And according to state statute, we have to have a balanced budget by October 21st, 2024. And the notice of proposed taxes, property taxes, went out to homeowners already via the trim notice. So comparing other cities' rates, we did not get information from everyone about what their current versus their rollback and proposed rates are. There are, the rollback rate is there on that slide for comparison. And if you look at it, doesn't look like anyone is going back to rollback rate. However, they are making some slight reductions in their millage rates.

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And that's

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And I would like to note that the millage rate is the same as it was last fiscal year. So

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6.9532.

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is higher

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And keeping the millage rate the same as in previous years was helped to fund salaries and benefits, mandatory and critical capital equipment, maintaining ‸ essential services, and absorbing inflationary costs. So at this point in time, Mr. Mayor, I would like for you to open this up to public hearing and take any comments from the public.

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Thank you.

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to the public? Councilwoman calls?

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I just want to ask in the future if we could, when we do the comparative city rates, we could ‸ also include population size. I mean, I kind of know what these are, but it gives us, I think, a better perspective. You know, for example, we're probably double the population of Satellite Beach, but we're half the population of Titusville. So, you know, just if we're going to compare, that would be a helpful data point. Thank you.

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Okay. Do we have any additional questions from Mrs. Bowman? Go ahead.

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And

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I don't know if now is the appropriate time to ask, but ‸ when ‸ going through the budget, there's a number of items that are in red under shortfall. How do we handle that?

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I don't think that there's shortfalls. There was a difference from last year to this year.

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Yes.

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Okay. Yeah. That's a change from one year to the next. That was a reduction.

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Oh, okay. Thank you. I appreciate that.

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You're welcome.

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Okay. Any other questions? Deputy Mayor?

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It's just a suggestion. Sorry. It's just a suggestion as well. Maybe looking at next year's budget. If we can do a scenario-based presentation as well. Maybe showing the council what we can do

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what, you know, maybe giving the council options or things that we can probably hold off on and if not be. That's a good suggestion.

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Okay. Do we have any other comments from council pertaining to tonight's budget? Saying none, ‸ sure letting you close this portion. Open to the public. Please come forward and state your name. And you have three minutes to elaborate on this particular item. Resolution number, the tentative millage rate, tentative fiscal year 25 budget. Going ‸ once.

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You want to see the numbers? Okay. We're going to, we will come back again. Yes, ma'am. I'll make sure you get the opportunity when we meet the second time so that you can see the actual numbers there too as well. That

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agenda online too.

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Yes, and it'll be on the agenda online. Okay.

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Charlotte, it closes portion to the public and return it to council. Next slide, please. Because I know we got to make a motion, but I just want to see the next slide.

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Okay.

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So the substantive issues for council, or I'm sorry. Wrong slide. At this time, I would like to make a public

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That the rollback rate is 6.3761. The millage rate of 6.9532

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the rollback rate. And the millage rate to be

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rate from

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Okay.

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So now.

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And so just to recap what the rollback rate is, this is a technical explanation that says allows government's growth in revenue by excluding new construction from the calculation and keeps the taxpayers paying the ‸ same taxes as they did in the previous year.

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a term that applies to the property tax rate as it changes year over year in relation to the property values. So essentially a rollback rate, excluding new construction, will get you back to collecting the same amount of taxes that you collected in a prior year, even though maybe you have inflationary issues or salary union negotiations going on and cost of everything's going up. So that is an option that council has. So at this point in time, I would like for council to approve

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Cocoa, commencing on October 1st, 2024 and ending on September 30th, 2025.

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Okay. ‸ We have any comments for Mrs. Bowman?

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the 24-083 tentative millage rate of 6.9532 mills

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Second. We have a motion on the floor by the chair. Second by Deputy Mayor Hearns.

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All in favor by saying aye. Aye.

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Aye.

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Proceeding on to the next item.

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Okay. So the next

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As I

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The largest portion of the budget, as usual, is the Water and Sewer Utility Fund at about

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$54 million.

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and Replacement Fund is for large capital projects.

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Water and Sewer Restricted Assets, which is essentially debt service for the utility fund, is $8.7 million.

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other special revenue funds at $3.8 million.

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are estimated at $2.4 million.

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And then we have a debt service fund and a workers' comp

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So we'll start with General Fund. And as a reminder, these are the different categories that we have to report in the financial statements. So General Fund revenue sources is made up of taxes, other permits and fees, intergovernmental revenue, which is shared revenue, and sales tax and things like that. And then charges for services is the water billing services and garbage collection and other various charges for services that we have. We have fines and forfeits, miscellaneous, and then something that's called non-revenue, because it's not something that we generate that revenue ourself, which ‸ includes interfund transfers, the water and sewer return on investment, and payment in lieu of franchise fees. We did have debt proceeds this year.

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And then anything that we pulled from unassigned fund balance or reserves. So looking at General Fund budget, the highest revenue source there is the interfund transfers from water, sewer, stormwater funds, followed by taxes. That line for

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and then other taxes that we enact as a city ourselves.

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and fees, the intergovernmental miscellaneous and fines and forfeits

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Then we'll take a look at the budget by department. And you can see there that

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by fire at $9.6. General operations is kind of like a non-departmental department where it's shared costs throughout the rest of the city.

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And

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Community services, $214,000. City council, $179,000. And then emergency operations, $173,000. And so this slide is the slide where you see the red, and that is showing a reduction in the cost from fiscal year 24 to fiscal year 25.

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and fire had large increases. Those increases were due to capital spending, different pieces of equipment for public works, and then fire truck ‸ was the major thing for the fire department for the next fiscal year. And I would like to note overall that there was an

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of which about 2.8 of that is the debt financing, being able to purchase those large capital items.

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Their largest revenue generator is charges for services, which is all the utility fees. And then they have revenues from unrestricted net position to fund

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So their total budget is $85.6 million. And then looking at them by division, again, you see some things in red there, like for engineering, this is all the different departments that are in utility fund. That's just due to a change in capital projects from one year to the next. And then the administration, which includes the costs for the ROI, the pile off and the overhead and debt service transfers decreased slightly at $126,000. And then water field operations and inventory also had slight decreases.

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due to capital again. Fiscal year 2025 stormwater budget. If you'll recall, stormwater is collected through a special assessment, similar to the fire assessment. So that's not under charges for services. It gets reported as a special assessment. And we break out the collection of that money by trying to keep track of delinquent or tax certifications, but the total budget for stormwater revenue is $2.3 million.

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costs, personal services went down slightly. Their operating costs went down slightly and then

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in the stormwater budget. So at this time, Mr. Mayor,

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would like for you to turn that over,

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uh, from the citizens.

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Thank you very much. Mrs. Bowman. Do we have any questions? For Mrs. Bowman?

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Well,

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I mentioned this earlier, but it would be really helpful to have, um,

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to know where we stand in that, because when we voted on that,

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four or six years ago now, I guess five years ago to know which projects are going forward. If we've replaced any, you know, what our progress is. ‸ So,

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So we can probably include that in one of the

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presentations earlier in the budget process. Okay.

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the reduction in engineering under water sewer fund of 1.8 million. How did that decrease so drastically?

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Uh, it's dependent on capital projects and, um, water sewer capital projects.

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10 year plan, um, for capital needs for the water and sewer utility fund. And so it just, it fluctuates from one year to the next.

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The biggest part of that million dollars was the lead and copper, uh, services task that does not repeat for the next year because we completed it or

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So that was one of the biggest portions of it.

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Thank you. Oh,

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okay. Thank you.

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Any other questions? I do have a card in the audience. All right. Let me close this portion to council and open to the public. I have you, Mr. Murphy. Please come forward. State your name.

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Steve Murphy. I'm in district three,

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I do have one question outside the water. If I may, it's a short question. How much rollover is going from the 23, 24 to the 24 or 25 budget.

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isn't recorded yet. okay.

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Projected. I don't know. You don't have a projected.

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No.

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Okay. Um, can we ask that at the final hearing that we have that data with that.

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start to figure out what budget needs to be rolled over.

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Okay. We

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have a month after the end of the fiscal year to be able to record all the costs back to the previous fiscal year. Right. Before I can start working on financial statements.

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Will you have a projected roll over by then? I

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have open purchase orders, but I can't tell you when invoices are going to come in in October. Okay.

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Thank you. You're welcome. So, um, the reason I asked to speak, uh, this evening was regarding the, uh, city water and sewer rate

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And I know you're going to find this hard to believe, but I kind of disagree with that. Uh, for a couple of reasons. The first one is, um, and looking at the FAMS report

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uh, I didn't have the 23 report, but I did have the 22 report and there was some pretty drastic changes that occurred, uh, from 2022 to 2024.

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projected borrowing. And so there was a large amount of, uh, projected grants that are to come in and the 27, 28 year, um, versus what was projected previously to that. And, um, um, so

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if those grants are already approved or are they just projected grants?

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No. Oh, sorry.

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Those

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are projected. Okay. They're projected. So they're, they're not already there.

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So it was probably for a large project where we're hoping that we would get a grant or it would be dependent on execution to get some dollars to offset it.

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would offset a little bit of that as well as I, I do have another issue that has to do with the sewer, uh, transition, uh,

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engineering, uh, department that did that analysis for you. And they're projecting 379 parcels, uh, that are west of the Indian river drive that are not going to be converted to sewer. So

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but those 379 other parcels don't get converted, ‸ which now puts the onus upon those owners of those parcels to do a conversion to an enhanced septic system, which the report projecting there is $30,000 each. Now I understand that within the county that there are available grants out there today of about 18,000 to offset that, but it's still 12,000 and that grant money could dry up from the, uh,

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So my, I guess my point is I would prefer to leave

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offset future either, uh, um, borrowing or to look at moving those 379 parcels that are going to have to go to

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septic to a sewer transition. Thank you.

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Thank you. Next, Mr. Jeffrey W. Brown.

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Hello. My name is Jeffrey Brown. I've, uh, been a resident of the city of Cocoa for 44 years.

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is a lot of money for somebody who's struggling. So, um, I would just like to get a breakdown and figure out why I feel like, I feel like it, we might be paying for it twice.

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your property tax? That's just that. No, that's just the, what the city of Cocoa gets out of my property taxes. I pay roughly $4,000.

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Right. So you, you pay to the city of Cocoa. Your property tax bill is $1,500. Yes. And you want an itemization of that $1,500.

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I, yeah.

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Yeah. Your $1,500 goes into a big pot that funds the police department, the fire department, uh, public works, uh, all the support agencies, um, city council. So it is a, it is a cumulative collection of all the property

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as to like, unless, unless that light line item,

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was just something that was added in there to, um, you know, that, I mean, it,

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for services, it says that the waste management is, you know,

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garbage collection is a part of that. And I'm just, I mean, I paid $20 a month on my water bill basically for, for that. I'm just, I'm trying, I'm coming, I'm coming here to get educated. Yeah. There's a

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revenue source, ‸ which is that charges for services. And then we pay waste management.

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On top of what, uh, they

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charge us for picking up your garbage.

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I, I understand that. Yeah,

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understand that. But what I'm saying is like, there's roughly $20 a month on the water bill. So I'm just curious as to why on that, uh, charge for services line item garbage is mentioned, but

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that's, that's just the way that we're collecting the garbage there.

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that's a, that's a bill that goes out every month. Um, waste management garbage is, uh, expense monthly. And so, so to, so that you don't get two bills, you're actually ‸ just receiving your waste management bill. That's a part of your water bill.

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So you got the water portion and then you got the garbage portion.

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So, so basically waste management, management charges. So we, I pay that monthly and then they get an annual amount also. No, I'm just,

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if there's a itemization on charge for services.

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there's an itemization on the charge for services, it's like that, if that line item, if there's a, uh, itemized, um, list of what, what's on there. Yeah.

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I can give you the listing of all the accounts that make up charges for services. Okay.

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I would appreciate that.

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All

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right. Thank you. I don't, I don't know if that's what you're referring to, but are you, are you just trying to figure out an itemization of your garbage charge? Well, that's just one of the, that's, that's one of the, uh, okay. So you just want, you want an itemization of what's called charges for service on your monthly water bill?

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Not on the monthly water bill on the actual, on this, on this, uh, this tax bill,

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Let me,

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let me see it, sir. ‸ Yeah,

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that's tenancy. Right.

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Yeah. That was, that was my original question. If you, if you're, there's a, on your tax bill. Yeah. You're, you're, you're, it's

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Yes, sir.

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And you're, you're not going to have an itemization of that because again,

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police, uh, public works, um, or your general generally funded services.

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Like, so if I, if, if I were, if that's where I was going to be paying, what percentage is going to this? ‸ What percentage is going to that? Because I mean, if it's going into a big pot, then obviously that pot's got a percentage of the, it pays a percentage to this percentage

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that. So what about an itemized percentage? Um,

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Yeah. I mean, we can, we can show you that.

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it's going to be, be accurate, but, but again, ‸ the city collects, including your 1484, the city collects, uh, 12 point, whatever million she had on the, on the previous chart there. So again, they're about 7,000 residential properties. If I remember correctly, that all have a, a taxable, um, revenue amount that go into making, uh, ‸ the,

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So, so you, so you, so you contribute out of the 12 point something million,

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Did you do, did you do have the general fund chart somewhere? ‸ Yeah, that's, that's the 12, 12 million, 31,000.

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And then the general fund. That's your cost.

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the police department, doesn't cover the full cost of public, works. You can see what fire is. You can see general operations, finance, information, technology. And so you're the

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the information technology. Um, what is that in reference to? Is that, um, have anything to do with like civic plus? No,

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that's the mic that you're speaking into. Okay.

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Okay. And so ‸ I came here to get it.

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Yeah, no, it's, it's traditional IT services that supports, uh, all of those services that you see there, including, um, uh, ‸ stormwater, including utilities.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Knowledge is power. You have the right place, sir. So you can be educated. Knowledge is power. That's a wonderful thing. That's why

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I'm here.

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That's right.

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Alrighty. Well, that's it for me. Thank you. Yeah.

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So, so again, you can see why it would be difficult to, because again, your, your 1400 is a part of the, the 12.03 million, which again is a part of this 54 million. So it pays for again, whatever percentage 12 million is of 54. ‸ pays a, uh, a small percentage of, uh, the cost to run government.

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All right. Oh,

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thank you. I'm like, ‸ I did not have that $25,000 homestead tax exemption

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last year. I didn't get it, sir.

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Yeah. Well, it hurts.

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Even though I know, oh, absolutely brother. I feel the pinch

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book

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because I'm on commercial residential and then there's others that do not pay any taxes at all. But that's a different conversation on a different date. Okay. Do we have any other ‸ additional individuals in the audience? Saying none, I'd like to close this portion of the public and return to the council.

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a comment. We are not voting on the water sewer percentage. We've already done that, right? We're voting on the budget tonight. That's right. Yeah. Just for Mr. Murphy's information and in regard to the, uh, septic conversions and, and that report, I think I've requested that we have an opportunity to, um, see that as a

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council

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and discuss it.

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So, uh,

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What are the wishes of council?

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action, please. Um, I'd like for

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the fiscal year, commencing October 1st, 2024 and ending on September 30th, 2025.

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That's been read and all. Okay. That's shared to read it. If not, I'll make the motion chair. I'd

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to make

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as stated by the finance director.

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second. We have a second on the floor by deputy mayor Hearn. Just going to call the question. All in favor of saying aye. Aye.

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Aye.

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Aye's have it unanimously. Okay.

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Thank you city council. So, um, at this point I would like to, um, reiterate that the next public hearing will be the final public hearing on the final millage rate and the final budget, uh,

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2024 at 6 PM here in the chambers.

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And just for the record, ma'am, we cannot increase or enhance the 6.9352. We're locked in on that.

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You're locked in unless you want to go back and re advertise and go through all the, uh, ‸ for the records.

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Okay.

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September the 17th, 2024 at 6 PM. Is there any other information you need to share with this?

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That's all we need to do for tonight, sir.

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Thank you very much, ma'am. Job well done. Mr. City manager and staff directors, all 400 plus employees because teamwork is the dream work. Mr. City manager,

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sir. Um, we are good. Uh, Mr. Mayor, I think we have one report.

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Yes, sir.

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last week on Amazon opening. Um, so Amazon has announced or will be announcing, um, the fulfillment center on Grissom that will be opening, uh, hopefully very soon.

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So,

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Um, and we should have a release by next week on hiring. So we'll have a hiring announcement next week. And we're looking at possibly hundreds of positions available right there in our community. So that's, we're excited about that. We'll get the word out about that announcement. Um, once we have more information, but we hope to have that next week.

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No question. No question. Please be mindful that.

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Yes. So more than one potential up to more than two. Councilwoman Carlos, ma'am.

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was going, um, can you explain, because I know there are different types of plants. So this one is not the last mile plant. Correct. It, how do you, how do you describe,

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was trying to describe it to someone. I'm not really sure what it's, they call it

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a fulfillment center. Fulfillment center. Okay. That's the, that's the term that they use for that. That facility is a fulfillment center. Originally, the facility was going to be a last mile, which would have had vans, but this is a fulfillment center. And

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so the difference between fulfillment slash first mile, can I still call it first mile somehow?

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last mile is last mile. Those are the facilities that the items that are going on the gray truck that come to your home, uh, go to. So that's the last mile. The fulfillment center is items that will go to other Amazon centers. They may be, uh, they may be last mile centers there, but it's the, it is those items that are not going directly to your home, but going to other Amazon centers. And

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there's a difference as well to that with jobs, because those vans that pick up on a last mile facility are all contract employees and aren't technically employees of Amazon.

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of facility that we will have.

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Yeah, that was one of, that was one of the benefits of benefits of the change was that these are, these are more direct Amazon jobs there. And, and again,

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‸ it is there.

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find at, uh, ‸ at, uh,

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Scotty's Home Depot, uh, Home Depot and Lowe's there. So it's that

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I don't know if you want to expound on that chief lamb.

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Uh, no, I mean, Amazon did a lot of work to retrofit that building to ensure its safety and all, which added some more space for them, but we're actually doing their final fire inspection of the fire pump and the foam system that, um, had to be added to that on September 10th. So they've done a tremendous amount of work out there.

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So again, just to be clear, there are chemicals in the facility. Those are things that you would find in hardware stores and home improvement stores,

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Walmart. Okay.

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thanks for the point of clarification. Councilwoman calls. ‸ I'm

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good.

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You're

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good,

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man. Fantastic.

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One and said, thank you all very much. Job well done. You've been a good servant for the city of Cocoa and the citizens. I thank you. Mr. City manager, city attorney and council staff, staff,

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to fulfill the betterment of our fine city called the great city of Cocoa. So I thank you. Council members job well done.

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Okay. Chair entertains a motion to adjourn. I'm looking for a second. Second.

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favor saying aye. Aye. Aye. Unanimously.

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everyone. Thank you. Great job.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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