City Council

City Council Regular Meeting

Date
2020-09-09
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #515
Built from the City's minutes records — no AI-written text Briefing final

The City's record

What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (601_CC_Reg_Minutes_09_09_2020.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins (printed “James Goins”), Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines.)
  • Absences: no absence line could be read from the minutes' text, so none is stated here; the first page of the minutes is the record.
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Anthony A. Garganese (City Attorney), Matthew Fuhrer (Interim City Manager), Carie E. Shealy (City Clerk), Tammy Gemmati (Administrative Services Director), Jack Walsh (Utilities Director), John Hankins (Commander), Jonathan Lamm (Fire Chief), Bryant Smith (Public Works Director), Rebecca Bowman (Finance Director), Lora Howell (Deputy Finance Director), Nancy Bunt (Community Services Director), LeShawn Hinton (Helpdesk Support Tech), Lea Malarae (Senior Budget Analyst)
  • Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Jake Williams Jr., Lorraine Koss (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (15)

  • to remove Item IlI.1 (Awards and Presentations) from the agenda (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
  • to approve the Minutes for the Special Meeting of August 4, 2020; the Regular Meeting of July 22, 2020; City Manager Candidate Virtual Town Hall of August 13, 2020; and the Special City Council Meeting of August 14, 2020 as written (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Brenda Warner); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
  • to approve the Tourism Development Office to use Conference Room 1 at the Cocoa Civic Center at no cost on October 20, 2020 (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Brenda Warner); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 4
  • to approve the item (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 6
  • 1. Approve Final Fire Assessment Resolution No. 2020-195 and the Non-Ad Valorem Assessment Roll for Fire Protection Assessment Fiscal Year 2 — to approve Final Fire Assessment Resolution No. 2020-195 and the Non-Ad Valorem Assessment Roll for Fire Protection Assessment Fiscal Year 2021 (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 7
  • 2. Approve the Final Stormwater Assessment Resolution 20-196 and the Non-Ad Valorem Assessment Roll for Stormwater Utility Services, Fiscal — to approve the item (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Brenda Warner); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 8
  • to approve Resolution No. 2020-201, adopting the tentative millage rate of 5.9790 mills for the City of Cocoa, commencing on October 1, 2020 and ending on September 30, 2021, for discussion (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Brenda Warner); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 10
  • (b) Adopt Resolution No. 2020-202 adopting the FY2021 tentative budget and CIP for the City of Cocoa Fiscal Year, commencing on October 1, 2 — to approve Resolution No. 2020-202, adopting the Fiscal year 2021 tentative budget and CIP for the City of Cocoa, for the Fiscal Year commencing on L October 1, 2020 and ending on September 30, 2021 (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Brenda Warner); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 11
  • 1. Approve the current Code Enforcement Lien for the property located at 1311 Elizabeth Ave., be reduced to $500.00 as recommended by the Co — to approve the item‘ (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Jake Williams Jr.); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 11
  • 3. Approve the current Code Enforcement Lien for the property located at 112 Derby St., be reduced to $1,107.60 as recommended by the Code E — to approve the item (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Jake Williams Jr.); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 13
  • 4. Consider the reappointments of Mr. Michael Kirn and Mr. Paul Kamus as ; members of the Police Pension Board through September 30, 2024; a — to approve the item (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 14
  • 5. Consider the appointment of Stephen Harrell as a member of the General Employees Pension Board through September 30, 2023. (20-575) — to approve the item (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 14
  • 6. Consider approving a City Manager Employment Agreement with Stockton Whitten, effective October 9, 2020. (20-586) — to approve the item (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Brenda Warner); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 14
  • 1. Approve a Resolution, suspending the automatic 5% rate increase, to Water, Sewer, Reclaim, Fireline and Hydrant Utility Service and Usage — to approve the item (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 15
  • to adjourn the Regular meeting of September 9, 2020 (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 15

Motions whose printed result and vote count contradict each other — unresolved (1)

  • 2. Approve the Code Enforcement Lien for the property located at 252 Orange St be Reduced to $0, as recommended by the Code Enforcement Boar — to approve the item (moved by Jake Williams Jr., seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: Don Boisvert — the City's minutes, p. 12; the vote on p. 13 Unresolved: the minutes print a result and names that do not agree: AYES: Williams, Goins, Koss, Warner / NAYS: Boisvert / THE MOTION CARRIED (4-0). Corrected to match the minutes, page 13.

Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)

  • $500.00 — Council: listed on an agenda item that an adopted motion approved as presented. “Approve the current Code Enforcement Lien for the property located at 1311 Elizabeth Ave., be reduced to $500.00 as recommended by the Code Enforcement Board.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (601_CC_Reg_Minutes_09_09_2020.pdf, p. 11); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $1,107.60 — Council: listed on an agenda item that an adopted motion approved as presented. “Approve the current Code Enforcement Lien for the property located at 112 Derby St., be reduced to $1,107.60 as recommended by the Code Enforcement Board.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (601_CC_Reg_Minutes_09_09_2020.pdf, p. 13); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $0 — Council: listed on the agenda item (a proposal as listed, not an approval). “Approve the Code Enforcement Lien for the property located at 252 Orange St be Reduced to $0, as recommended by the Code Enforcement Board.” (the motion on this item is unresolved: the minutes print a result that contradicts the vote count, so this amount is only listed on the item; the City's minutes (601_CC_Reg_Minutes_09_09_2020.pdf, p. 12; the vote on p. 13); fiscal period not recorded)

Agenda (the City's wording)

The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (CC_Reg_Packet_09_09_2020), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.


Transcript Partial transcript

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Okay.
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And I'm going to move on to approval
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from
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be removing the presentation by family promise. So if there's any other changes that need to be made. ‸ Motion
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to approve agenda ‸ and amendment.
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Second. We
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saying aye. Aye. Opposed? It passes unanimously. Next up,
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we
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have our minutes from our special meeting of August 4,
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All the wishes of the Council. How beautiful. We
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in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? It passes unanimously. Okay. We have nothing
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on the awards
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and presentation. We're going
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Greenwood.
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made, and one was a very big support. ‸ unanimous position ‸ this council has taken to try to correct some of the issues that we're having to deal with that basically created ‸ people
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and I was reelected twice it took that long to correct it and I want to compliment this council for seeing that it's necessary to ‸ that again. History repeats itself obviously. There's a lot of negatives, and it also adds up to what you all are familiar with, the majority of you were, as
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‸ reputation that
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we
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had, and it's directly connected to the most recent changes in the way that we've got all these projects that want to come here, and
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I just
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‸ very, very ‸ supportive of your list of both, and it was unanimous. Even one council member wanted it done a little differently. However, it was still unanimous. You all felt that it was necessary to look into it and try to correct the things that the city's going through right now thank you
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thank you sir next up we have a mr. mike graham
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the city with the
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city with
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uh uh sorry,
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utility. uh I'm resolving those issues, of course. But after the meeting, I met with numerous members of the community, and I then emailed
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this
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council about setting up a water
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Just in case you still haven't got your email system working. uh none of you responded. The only people who responded were actually candidates
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I was really surprised about that. uh by the way, I live in
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in ‸ Cocoa, North area of Cocoa, the Incorporated area. Can I see who up here represents my issues, you know, represents me here? No
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one.
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No
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They are customers.
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they're yeah they're water customers.
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We represent the city council. ‸ Okay.
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Yeah, we're,
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uh we do respond.
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utility without any representation. You know, some of our most honored
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she's
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like this. Then we fought a war with England because there was no representation, taxation, without representation. You know, and that's what's going on here. I think it's, you know, time that something's done. You know, maybe we should, you know, pass the hat by the mayor a crown and red coats for the city council and, you know, a Benedict Arnold outfit for the city manager. But, you know, this is ridiculous. The majority of your customers live under the
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tyranny
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of this water utility but have no voice here to be heard. I think that's long past time. I'm asking everyone here, watch me on video, and see me on social media to contact your state, especially your county representatives, and ask them to take
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That way we would have representation that
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some of these issues. Right now we have tax, in
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representation. You
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call it anything else, but that's what it is. It's time to end the tyranny of the Cocoa Water Utility, make it the
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Water Utility, and have everybody represented. Thank you.
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make it clear,
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the way.
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I didn't get anything from you. I didn't
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I hear what you're saying. It doesn't work that way. So you operate? But just like, just ‸ hear me. ‸ I heard you. I'll just listen.
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Okay.
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Just like you're in here making the statements that you're making right now, there's dozens of other phone calls that we get from issues that we've actually resolved. So, I mean, I know you've got an ongoing issue. You opted to go to court or whatever you decided to do. That's correct. You know, but ‸ you do have representation.
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I don't see a single elected official up here that represents me.
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Well, the people of Rockledge have their elected officials to deal with us. And if you live in the county, then your county commissioner can represent you here in front of us. He
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regularly works
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inspected, ‸ doesn't notify the homeowner, doesn't let them inspect their work. You don't see a problem with that?
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Sorry.
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My question is this.
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What are you looking for?
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I think the management of the water utility should be handled by the county.
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And not the city of Cocoa.
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Well, they have their own water utility to handle.
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Yeah. I get my water from you. I know. Okay. So the utility is the Cocoa water utility.
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Okay. Thank you, sir. We appreciate you coming up. Thank you, sir.
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Glad to see you've recovered, Mike.
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Thank you.
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think that's the last card we had on the delegation.
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have an e-comment.
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Williams.
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If he's going to call out anyone, then we're not going ‸ to listen.
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I mean, if he's going to address the council,
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if he's
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address this as a whole, then that's fine. But ‸ it's not going to be an individual tax or ‸ whatever.
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I don't know ‸ what you're going to read into the record, but you can certainly address the chair. Because that's anybody that ‸ is a resident of
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has the ability to come in and address matters of public concern to them. But direct your comments ‸ to the chair, ‸ just like everybody else. And we do have certain rules regarding ‸ not invoking slanderous or ‸ defamatory or obscene comments or anything like that. Not suggesting that that's what's in the email, but the general rules regarding public decorum apply to email comments, just like somebody physically being here making the comments.
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And that's what this is.
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didn't, to be honest with you, I didn't read this to or interpret it yet before reading it out loud.
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‸ Do you want to read through it first?
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Well, I mean, I'd be more comfortable giving it to Anthony and having Anthony. Okay.
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It's fine with me.
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What am I going to be the judge of?
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public comment?
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I don't have a voice for radio, but I will read it. Okay.
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board chair called for an FBI investigation to take place, alleging city staff were engaged in development schemes, etc. In that meeting, in that item, the chair never once mentioned myself or
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Yet on August 13th, 2020, the chair gave an interview
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which was published online on August 13th, 2020, and in the print edition of August 14th, 2020. In this article, the mayor
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his position as mayor
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involving city staff, moving
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add up.
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with a home on it. We have never sought nor obtained any lien reduction forgiveness other than the negotiated agreement with the city to build new homes for families to own. I have requested that the chair either produce a single example and transaction that was claimed was done through code harassment liens or immediately issue public apology and admission.
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make outright false on
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The city of Cocoa has chosen,
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not provide an apology and acknowledgement that they have no evidence to support the chair's claims. Tonight, the chair produces evidence and documentation in support of his accusations, or the chair removes themselves from council immediately.
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Thank
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you, sir.
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Is that it?
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No other e-comments? Okay, thank you, ma'am.
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items.
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Particular items.
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to move on to our reports. Did the advisory boards or committees? Okay, city administration. Brian. Okay.
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There's just one item. Consent item number one for the
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reports.
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Okay, thank you, sir. Becca.
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No report, sir.
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provided each of you a copy of the 2019 annual report for the police department that we received back from the printers.
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contributed did a great job in that.
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Yes, sir. Thank you. I just wanted to give you an update on currently where we're at with COVID-19 across the state and both locally. Currently, we're at 652,148 cases. Brevard County has 7,742 cases.
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Within the city limit, we have currently active 24 cases.
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the county's average of positivity rates. The county as a whole
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their positivity
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The city as a whole, as far as ‸ the positivity rate goes, we're
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So we're certainly seeing the numbers go down, but I think it's due to a lot of what we're seeing with the mandate of masks, the protective measures that are being taken, and certainly, if anybody's been watching the news,
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due to COVID-19. So every update that I've gotten from the state,
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painstakingly twice a week.
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numbers come wintertime, along with the flu and some of the other respiratory issues that we're going to see. So we're certainly being urged to continue with the CDC recommendations and guidelines, with following social distancing, hand washing, face covers, all those things. Certainly the governor is pushing very hard for a vaccination, as much as everybody else is, to hopefully get that out. But I just don't want there to be a false sense of security right now. Certainly we're seeing a drastic drop in our numbers, both locally and statewide. But I think it's due to a lot of the protective measures that we're seeing. That's what's causing this drastic drop in this rate change in the number of positivity cases that we see across the state. And we just need to continue to hold fast to that and whatever the city council's directions are.
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Thank you, sir. And welcome back. Mr. Mayor, I'd like to just add on to that. At the August 12th city council meeting, city council adopted emergency ordinance related to face coverings. Within that ordinance, it states that the city council will periodically review ‸ the ordinance. And specifically every 30 days following the effective date to determine whether the ordinance should be terminated, depending on
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don't have to take any action. The only action that would be necessary is if you wanted to terminate the ordinance. It's done by a majority vote. We did try to bring in the county medical director,
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but we do plan on bringing him in, working to bring him in at the next time that we would bring this back for review. So you have some, besides just hearing from us and the reported numbers that come from the state, from a medical professional on where we're at with the current pandemic.
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I can tell you I'm in support of continuing it.
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to continue.
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Any other comments? No. I'm in. Okay.
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You? I'm fine. Deputy Mayor. Thank you.
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mean, I'm good. I think the mandate has held everybody accountable, including myself. ‸ People hold me accountable every time I step my toe out the car. I know.
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Yeah. So I think it's working. And
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over. ‸ I mean, there are some people that ‸ just don't do it or maybe can't afford to get
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or whatever the case may be. But I believe it's working.
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Thank you, sir.
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we need a motion for that or just ‸ consensus is good? Okay. Community development. That's right.
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And so I just want to make you aware that we through our PR division, Samantha and Rachel have worked on these very nice flyers. They're out in the customer service lobby. And we're also going
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be at the new
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We are working on postcards and also
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which is through the schools. And some other email blasts.
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FYI for the survey to get input from the residents. As far as what they're looking for with the parks and different amenities things that they'd like to do differently.
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And so if you would share it on your Facebook and ‸ social media to get that out there. We've had a, with all this COVID, we've had a very low response on the survey. So any help that you could provide, we'd appreciate it.
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Yeah, that was my question. ‸ How is the survey going? You already answered that question. It's not going very well. What do you think we can do other than just sharing it on social media? Is there any other thing you think of?
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go to every resident. She's doing more of the blast. We're putting it downstairs with the, at the water customer service billing station. So that'll maybe help us get some, some people to fill it out. And then also through the schools, we're hoping, because we want some input from the kids as well. Okay. As also at the Julie Smith Center.
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was just going to say, I just took the survey the other day. And I think one of the issues is
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takes a long time. It's pretty lengthy. Yeah. So, well, I don't know if they can shorten it up now. But the other thing is they were looking at putting signs out in parks. Did you say they had done that?
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Not yet. We're working on getting that all done.
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Okay. With one of those, what are they called?
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QV codes that you put your phone on?
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Okay. Great.
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And I had one other thing just to give you an update on the CRF funds the city received for rental and utility assistance. We opened the application process up ‸ last Friday.
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all of those funds. Today, we received email confirmation from Representative Posey's office.
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So, we'll also be looking at doing some additional rental mortgage assistance, utility assistance, helping people to pay their water bills, get them caught up. Okay.
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Jack.
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Thank you, sir. Pat, me?
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Attorney? Thank you, sir.
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Mr. City Manager? I do have a couple of items. The first one is related to City ‸ Council's direction to conduct or reach out to the FBI to have an investigation conducted here at the City of Cocoa. And
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that council meeting, we have reached out to the FBI and gathered the information. That information was
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to the ‸ mayor ‸ as he brought forward the item to be able ‸ to coordinate that meeting with that local agent and bring forth the information that he had.
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we have made the contact and initiated the process.
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And that meeting is scheduled for the 15th. Okay.
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Okay. And then the final item that I have, we did receive a request yesterday from the Tourism Development Office with the county. They're looking for conference room space for their sports committee meeting on October 21st, 2020, from 1 to 4 p.m.
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has a lot of the rooms, meeting rooms at the government center used up, and which they typically utilize.
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facility rentals.
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think maybe because ‸ the, you know, the TDC is located right here in Cocoa Village as well. So, just looking for an approval from city council on that.
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Do you need a motion or consensus?
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‸ If we can just get a motion. Motion
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to approve. Second.
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We have a motion from Councilwoman Cost, a second from Councilwoman Warner. All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed. The passage unanimously. Okay. Nothing further to report. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Councilwoman Warner.
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Just one thing. When you get a chance, I got a copy of the police annual report for 2019 earlier, and I just wanted to point out, since a lot of the public might not get to see it, in 2019, our police department answered 58,581 calls for service.
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made 1,369 arrests, had 36 citizen complaints, no use of force complaints, and
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are working. And I think we need to make sure that we stay on top of the latest innovation and body cameras so that our officers always have the protection of body cameras, and so does the public.
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58,581 calls with only 36 citizen complaints. That's just pretty amazing. That's great customer service. Because I guarantee you, we've had more citizen complaints than that. It's the front desk of the water department.
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anyway. ‸ So, thank you guys very much. Appreciate it. That's it for me, Mr. Mayor.
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Okay, well, let me start with, I think that each of you will be getting a copy of Form 8B, the memorandum on voting conflict.
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and so I needed to make that announcement as required by this process.
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have to sign a form whenever you don't vote. Oh, okay. Okay.
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I was going to say, ‸ and
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in regard to continuing to do our online participation even after we're over this COVID mess.
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month that's ‸ really going to improve things for all the six people that are at home right now watching, but perhaps we can double, triple, and even quadruple it and increase our citizen engagement through that remote connection that will become so much more of a quality experience next month. So, excited about that. And also about my town hall, which is going to be on October 20th. It's going to be at the Museum of Natural History on Michigan Avenue, ‸ and it's going to be a little different than we usually do town halls.
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but I wanted the opportunity for everyone to see that museum and to be able to go through and look at the exhibits. They've got a couple of additions that they're going to be doing, and we'll be talking about that more as well as all the other assets that are in District 4 that make the whole so much more than the sum of its parts. At that meeting, the theme, really the umbrella of what we'll be talking about, concentrating on at that town hall, is how we have been moving toward becoming more storm prepared. I'm not sure that everyone realizes all the different pieces of work that have been going on for the last two years, whether it be the resiliency plan, the sustainability plan that's going to be concluding in the next month. ‸ We're embarking on a tree inventory, making the most of our natural and green resources, and, of course, our 10-year stormwater master plan, which we'll be talking about more tonight. All of these pieces come together and have a sweet spot that ‸ is driving us toward being more storm prepared and, in fact, being leaders within the Space Coast
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We have a lot of work ahead, and it's not perfect, but we're working toward it. And I think it's really a worthy goal.
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because, as you know,
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green soup out there, weather conditions have not been serving the lagoon well as of late. What we need is a period of little dryness, a little cooler temperatures, because
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They're from Titusville to Galley and all the way down the Banana River, and they're still not identified yet. So working on that, we all need to say a prayer for a little bit of sunshine, a little more sunshine and cooler temperatures. And then, well, the last thing I wanted to talk about was utility customer service. I actually had somebody approach me in the grocery store this week, and, you know, somebody who had a leak, which, you know, commonly happens, a lateral breaks, it was on their side. They had it repaired, but they still had an enormous bill. They went through the city, they filled out the form there, they had the water part reduced significantly, but didn't know, because
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that they have to go to Rockledge and fill out a form there in order to get the wastewater, the sewer end of that bill reduced. Well, the average bear of our 80,000 customers, ‸ they probably don't realize that they have to go to yet and fill out yet another form in order to get the entirety of that bill reduced. So I discussed with Matt, and I hope that we can move forward in customer service to look at how we might consolidate that process. It seems to me that we should be able to work with the other municipalities so that there is at least just one process for having the entirety of it reduced. And
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for how they waive, we need to negotiate with them. because as you can see, this is really impacting our perception as someone who delivers customer service. And that is really important. That perception, once we lose that, it's big. It's hard to get it back. So anything we can do to increase our ‸ customer service, to increase our ability to assist people, particularly during this difficult time, is important.
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And that is, it's for Jason's one-year-old birthday. I ordered it a long time ago, but
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had to believe in himself, had to believe, all the kids had to believe in him.
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where the kids didn't have food and toys. And the moral of the story was that you have to believe in yourself. And I'm making this public presentation because as you and I know, we run into that a lot.
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don't believe we ‸ do it, but I think we do. And the first start is believing that.
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Thank you. ‸ Appreciate
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Yeah, I just got one thing to say. I met some of the officers with their new cameras, and they seem to have a high rating with them, and I don't know, I presume they're working out great. John?
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they're using, they're working out great. Oh,
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we've got a few hiccups with them, with the body placement. Yeah,
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saying hitting the button over there. So, yeah, thank you very much.
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you guys are doing. Like Ms. Warner said about the complaints, that's a hell of a ratio of 36 for 58,000 calls. I think that's great. You should be a part of that and thank you, man, for that. Hard work. I should say. Thank you. Thank you, sir. That's all I have to say. Thank you, sir.
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just had two things. Just two events. September 19th, Love Incorporated is doing a food distribution at Jolie Smith Center at, I believe, 10 a.m. So that's Saturday, September 19th. And also September 27th at Provost Park,
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helping convicted felons gain their rights back to vote And
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Restoration is hosting the event at Provost Park at September 27th and I believe it is from 12 to 5, September 27th.
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that's it. Thank you, sir. That's it?
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that they're doing on Pine Needle Road. It's been a process. I've gotten phone ‸ calls. Some folks, I guess all of a sudden became experts on doing the roads. ‸ and I said, we're aware that there were some little potholes in the crown that was forming. They're taking care of those, but this is a rebuild. This is not just a resurface job that you generally see. So I've tried to get that out there and just tell them to just be patient. and just remember that for 30-something years, you've been traveling ‸ on what was an eyesore and a nightmare And ‸ what we have there now is for better than we've seen in a number of years. So I'm very grateful ‸ and I think the folks that live there are very grateful for what they're seeing there. Also, I want to, thank the staff for our staff as well as the ‸ U-Haul there in Rockledge for helping unload all the pallets of produce that were being given away at the church.
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to say, roughly about 50 pallets of produce, boxes of produce. that we gave out in two days, a week apart. And I'm so grateful for all the folks that were involved ‸ and everyone that played a role because there's a lot of folks out there that are still hurting.
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mean, folks are losing their homes. They don't have jobs right now. They were furloughed and thought they would be going back to their jobs and it's just not there. And they don't know where to turn right now.
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here and you have all these folks that are suffering right now, there's so much more that we can be doing as a community and others can be doing ‸ as well other than some of the other silliness that's going on.
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And I'm so grateful for the staff that have stepped up to ‸ help and assist with the forklifts and other stuff that ‸ they've given with reference to all floating and all that stuff. I'm grateful to our utilities department, customer service,
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We had ‸ a number of water customers that had some issues ‸ and they addressed those issues and took care of those issues and those concerns.
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thankful to the staff. Hopefully they got them already, but I will pass those on if they hadn't gotten those. Also, you know, I know it's election time. Hopefully moving forward after this election, we'll look at our sign ordinance again because ‸ just the signs I see downtown, the way that they're tracking from the village, I think it's it's a mess. I mean, it's one thing to put signs out. It's another thing when you just basically trash ‸ your village with a bunch of campaign signs. And there's a lot of places, you know, I can see them in the residential neighborhoods and other places where they should be, but down here in the village and other places ‸ like that, ‸ it's just, to me, it's just ‸ too much. Hopefully moving forward and after this election, I hope that we look at our process and how we do things when it comes to putting signs out and folks putting sounds out in the city of Cocoa. But with that being said, you know, I'm just, Chief, thank you for the great numbers. I'm glad things are looking better. Thank you. And I'd like to thank you guys for the masks that I took over to the parks because
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very grateful.
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a mask.
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the park. and when I asked them, I said, hey, you know, you guys got to clean this up. And right away, they knew because they see me there all the time stopping in there and right away they started picking it up.
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this anymore.
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got it. They got right up and started picking the stuff up, putting it in the ‸ trash containers. But they did ask me, they said, I said, Mayor,
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And I was grateful that I was able to get some from our fire department to take over there and drop them off. ‸ But, you know, people do it if we just, if you just take the time and talk to them, man, because I'm so sick of seeing our city look the way it looks. man, I just, it's just ridiculous. And we got some great people in
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city. We have people
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about the city of Coco being a jewel. Yeah, it is. It's a jewel. But you've got to polish that jewel And you've got to take care of that jewel. And that just hadn't been happening. And, but moving forward, we need to really put some emphasis on our ‸ main fairfares. It's just, it's what people see driving through our city. I've been talking about this for, since I've gotten elected.
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And it's just, it shouldn't be. We don't see that in other communities. We shouldn't have to see that here in the city of Coco. And other people shouldn't have to see it. But with that being said, we're going to move on to our consent agenda.
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Second from Deputy Mayor Goins. All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed. ‸ Passes unanimously.
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Our first item up is approve the final fire assessment resolution.
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Yes, Mayor and Councilmembers. This agenda item is to approve the final fire assessment resolution.
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year 2021. Beginning in 2006,
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has done a fire assessment and most recently
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2020,
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but ‸ analysis each year to build in a 3% increase to fire assessment rates within the fiscal year 2021 budget.
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was approved
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2020, city council meeting. After the approval of the preliminary assessment resolution, City Council is required to hold a public hearing in accordance with the ordinance and
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for the purpose of adopting a final assessment resolution, formally approving the fire assessment rates. The final assessment hearing is being held tonight,
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2020, and if approved, the final rates are then submitted to Brevard County tax collector for the purposes of collecting the fire assessment on the annual non-avalorem assessment portion of the annual property tax bill no later than
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I'd also like to note that pursuant to the discussion at the last council meeting
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we have updated the verbiage on this agenda item memo to address the fact that ‸ there is debt coverage tied to this fire assessment So that it's a little bit more informative pursuant to the discussion. So at this time, I'd ‸ also like to point out
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of the revenue, which is about $2.76 million.
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of the fire department's fiscal year 21 budget. And
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and the non-avalorem assessment roll.
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Thank you, ma'am.
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And because this is a public hearing at this time, I want to close the discussion to the council and open up to the public for any public comments.
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the public and reopen it to the council. We get a motion
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All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? It passes unanimously. We'll move on to item number two. Rebecca.
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Yes, Mayor and Council members. This agenda item is to approve the final stormwater assessment resolution number 20-196 and the non-avalorem assessment roll for stormwater utility services in fiscal year 2021. Since 1992, the city has done a stormwater fee charging based on a single-family unit rate for ‸ parcels based on different criteria.
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then, in 2019, through council approval, the method of collecting it was changed to going on the tax bill, and therefore it's a special assessment.
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with adoption of the non-avalorem assessment roll. So, at June 25th, again, at the budget workshop, council approved the recommendation by the consultants to build in a 90% increase to stormwater rates with the fiscal year 2021 budget. Per ordinance, similar to the fire assessment fee, it's required that council first approve a preliminary assessment resolution which was approved
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city council meeting. At tonight's council meeting, there is a public hearing being held in accordance with ordinance and Florida statutes for purposes of adopting a final assessment resolution formally approving the stormwater assessment rates. And the rates
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are included on the agenda item.
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in 9% in fiscal year 2021 and 22 and 3% each year thereafter. Those increases will provide for funding for the operations of the stormwater fund in addition to capital projects in the stormwater fund.
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resolution 20-196 and the non-advalorem assessment roll for the stormwater utility services.
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And then I wanted to add that the way we collected the stormwater fees prior to the tier system that we have now posed some possible legal issues And that was one of the driving forces ‸ behind that as well. ‸ Some legal challenges possibly.
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Yeah, I was hoping Brian, you should tell us now when we have the,
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Oh, sorry. I know that we had talked about incentives for people reducing their stormwater fees.
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Yes, so that's our stormwater mitigation credit policy. ‸ We are in the final draft of that. We're hoping to have that either at the next meeting or the first one in October.
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So that provides credits for both your commercial, non-residential, as well as residential properties. Commercial, it's a little bit more rigorous for them. They have to go through St. John's for their permits anyway.
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We just need a property survey with the plan for things like rain gardens, ‸ infiltration ditches, and things like that.
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And when would they be able to apply for that credit?
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Once that's adopted, they could apply.
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to make that application to be on this year's tax roll for that reduction. And
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so they can get 5% for each different item that they choose.
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it for two years as well.
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And one more question, if I can, Mayor. The plan is front-loaded. Can you explain the benefit of front-loading? In other words, we planned
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years in a row, which is stiff. But there's a benefit to that. Could you explain that?
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It allows us to have more cash available for some of these ‸ projects instead of being entirely grant-dependent, as we've seen with the Fisk and Broadmoor Acres project, from my understanding, has been on the books for a few years now. So this would allow us, if we needed to, if those grants fall through, we have the cash available to fund that. And then even if we do cash fund some of those projects, there are opportunities to go back and recoup some of that money later with grant opportunities since projects usually take a while to complete. also ‸ allows us to get a lot of designs on the shelf to where we're a little bit more competitive with St. John's
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Most agencies for grants are moving towards construction-ready projects. We're starting to see that in
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So if we have the designs ready, we can move to the top of the list over a lot of projects that have been sitting there for years and years.
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And again, the stormwater master plan, we had really not dedicated enough funds to stormwater management for probably a decade.
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catch-up here.
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Yeah, we do. There is a lot of catching up. I will say from the water quality aspect, we're doing pretty well. The goal is by 2030 to have 100% reduction. I don't think very many entities in our area are going to meet that. Right now, we're in a third out of about eight within our region, which is pretty good. We've hit a lot of the low-lying stuff and tackled some of our large stormwater facilities. So trying to figure out some of those smaller projects that can give us a big bang as well.
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at this time to the council and open it up to the public for any public comments.
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it to the council. What
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Cost, a second from Councilwoman Warner. All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? It passes unanimously.
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This is the fiscal year 2021 budget presentation. So at this public hearing tonight, I'm going to be requesting two things of Council. One is to adopt a tentative millage rate for fiscal year 2021 and secondly to adopt a tentative budget for fiscal year 2021. And then also we'll be setting a second public hearing to be held at September 23rd this year at 6pm here at the chambers. And just to note, the city does need to have a balanced budget by October 1st
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in accordance with state statutes.
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So the first thing tonight is the adoption of the tentative millage rate. And of note, the tentative millage rate can't exceed the millage rate of 5.979 mills that was approved by City Council on July 22nd at their council meeting.
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So just to give you a review of where we're at, the first thing we look at is our Avalorum history. As you can see those years in the red where there was a reduction in the percentage of change was still recovering from the Great Recession. In fiscal year 2020, you
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That was largely due to new construction. And then in 2021, we're set to experience a 6 percent increase in property values. Looking at that graphically, you can see that dip where those negative numbers were going back to 2009. So we're actually right about at the same levels as we were at 2009. So looking at your trim rate options, as I said, you can't go above the 5.97
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but you can go below and you can go ‸ back to what is called the rollback rate of 5.8274
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cause an increase increase in revenue of $410,846. Also as a component, reminder that the US-1 CRA will be sunsetting on September 30th. So the city will have two CRAs after that point. And so as part of that, the city has to
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CRAs. So this slide is showing that at the current proposed millage rate, the city would be contributing
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CRA. If you went with a rollback millage rate, the increase would
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and $4,200 for Diamond
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Then as part of our process with budget adoption, we always look to see what the other cities are doing in our area. And
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the lower portion, but definitely not the lowest rates. If you notice Cape Canaveral and West Melbourne have 3.7 and 2.6 as their millage rates and that's because they're getting county services. So at this point in time, I would like to ask if you have any questions, any comments, and then I'll lead you with what I need for you to vote on.
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I just have one quick question. So I
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talking about we had 1.7 billion value. So a difference from the 1.1, and I understood from Matt that that was the properties ‸ that I guess we don't tax, right? Is that in line with what other municipalities, is that about right?
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It seems like a lot. It depends on what the makeup is of the city and what kind of exceptions that the city has, and also with, so that goes with land use and things like that. So I don't know that there's necessarily a standard of how much of a reduction there is. That's just the composition of the city. So the 1.16 that I showed was actual taxable value that we'll collect revenue from.
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Okay. And the rest is like churches and nonprofits and
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property. Okay. Okay. So at this time, I'd like to make a public
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be levied is 5.979. This millage rate of 5.9790 is an tax increase, and it will be advertised as a tax increase,
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the rollback rate. So the ‸ requested action that I'm asking from council is to approve
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adopting the tentative millage rate of 5.979
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for the city
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Thank you. We'll make a motion.
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Yeah. I'm sorry. I apologize for that. Okay. At this time, I'm going to go ahead and I'm going
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close it to the council and open it up to the public for public comments. I do have one card here.
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Chairman. I do have a small piece of paper I'd like to pass out to the council, if I may.
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You should just give them to us. We'll pass them down.
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It's all in your inbox as well.
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And Greg, make sure you're talking to the mic when you're up there so everyone at home can hear you too. All six of them.
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Greg Stoll, [address], Cocoa, Florida. Hi, Rebecca.
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Thanks.
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What I've handed you and is in your mailbox are my taxes for the city of Cocoa from 2010 to 2020 proposed. ‸ Basically, what I wanted to say was I compare the consumer price index urban to the percent of tax increases that I have been paying.
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The reason I'm more concerned about this these days is because I'm now on, some say fortunately, a fixed income. I've always known as retirement. So, Chief, thank you for your service. We understand we've made some major improvements. Stormwater assessment. I talked about that at the public hearing. I agree we need to do things. I just found out about the mitigation. Thank you very much.
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But if I look at the percentages that have gone up just last year, 18 to 19, 23.73% for me.
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Your total taxes.
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total credit.
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Wouldn't everybody have increased them?
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Oh, I fell into tier one, which is the bad one for school. Yeah, me too. ‸ Okay. ‸ So, basically what I'm asking you is to please be fiscally responsible in the future. I know you are working very hard. But we also have a major contract negotiation coming up with
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Do we not?
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Yeah. Waste management. Yeah.
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Okay. And what's going to happen there? Non-advalorum tax. Take them to the map.
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To just point out just one thing, that we did take the stormwater from your utility
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So, what's the, you know,
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it's not.
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And that was, yeah, that was increased.
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Okay. I did include it as like total taxes.
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Okay. That's all. Thank you.
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No, ‸ she was just trying to make it clear that that's what happened. So,
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‸ people
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see that increase, they know that it, you know.
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Right. But before that, it was in the cocoa utility bill.
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And the utility bill,
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included that as tax.
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was the storm.
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Thank you, sir. Any other comments? This is a public hearing.
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to close it to the public, reopen it
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to the council. I'd like to make a motion, Mr. Mayor, to approve a
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adopting the tentative
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for the city of Cocoa, commencing on October 1st, 2020 and ending on September 30th, 2021.
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We
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Second. Second from Councilwoman Warner. With
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discussion, Mr. Mayor.
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With discussion.
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I just wanted to say, in preparation for this, I looked, not locally, but I did a search and started reading some nationwide articles on what was happening in other parts of the country. And I came across several cities in several different states that are, and not that their tax structure is identical to ours or they have stormwater or fire fees or whatever, but I'm looking at some cities
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this year. I mean, like, I mean, serious. I mean, we're looking at a 2.6% change. I'm seeing cities
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I mean, it wasn't just one or two. There were multiple cities. And I'm thinking, what are, what's happening? So now I'm like really curious. What's happening to them that hasn't happened to us? That they're suddenly in such dire
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And the city of Cocoa has a pretty diversified revenue base.
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COVID, they're experiencing large reductions in their other revenue sources that they may have. And the
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is the one that they can control.
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mean, nationwide, our property values are doing pretty good. Real estate market is doing great. Property values are going up. So, but I mean, I was reading an article in one city.
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doing furloughs for their police officers because they're, they're like almost to the form of bankruptcy. It's like, I'm feeling really good about 2.6% after reading all that stuff. So thank you guys for working so hard to, to do so that we don't have to face that. Because I mean, I, I read an article where there were 300 people standing outside of city hall. And there was another community where there were thousands in front of the county commission chambers because the county was raising taxes so much.
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of what's going on in the rest of the country. So thank you all.
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favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed. It passes unanimously.
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budget and discussing the capital projects for the year. So first we're going to look at revenues. And this slide shows you a comparison of the amended budget for this fiscal year 2020 as compared to 2021. You'll notice some large numbers on there that
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We are creating some new funds in this next fiscal year. There's different state mandates where we have to do reporting on building permit revenues and numbers of permits issued and things like that. So we created a separate building permit fund. So that's where you see a large change there. And then also through the utility rate study, we developed a water impact fee fund and a renewal and replacement fund. And those two funds, one, we have to do reporting on impact fees in accordance with state statute. And so we segregated those impact fees. So whatever revenue we collect, it's very clear what we collected. And then again, what we spent the money on. And then the renewal and replacement fund is going to track the capital projects for the utility fund. So it gets those large swings from the capital spend that the utility has to do. And what's left in that water and sewer fund is really the operational component of a water and sewer utility system. So you see big changes there. The other big changes, one is the capital projects fund. There at the top, there's a 98.8% increase. That's because we had the waterfront project down here,
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And so now we don't have those projects until governmental funds have to pay for some large capital
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project.
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In addition, in the special
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A large portion of that is the Civic Center was budgeted in fiscal year 20 of about $5.6 million.
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And then $150,000 for the riverfront in the
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And that's not budgeted any longer. Excuse me, because as you can see, that project is complete in this fiscal year. And then ‸ on the bottom, the water and sewer capital project bond fund, all the projects were totally budgeted in fiscal year 20, so there is no spending being budgeted. However, whatever projects are not complete in fiscal year 20 will be re-budgeted through an agenda item coming back to council to carry that money over so that there's adequate budget to finish the projects. Then this is looking at general fund by itself, general funds funding sources. So you can see that the taxes,
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and utility service taxes, community service tax, make up 24.4% of the budget. And then charges for services such as water billing services, garbage collection fees, and
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makes up 30% of the ‸ revenue.
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from the utility fund. That represents 28% of general fund budget. So the general fund budget is $41,351,033. And then this shows you graphically what the changes were in each one of those categories that was on the other chart. And you can see that other than 2016, when charges for services went up, that was probably when having ‸ something to do with ‸ the other fees. Everything really remains pretty much steady from year to year. So I just wanted to review here in preparation for the budget. As you know,
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exactly what that impact was going to be. And we're still not sure what it is going to be and how long this is going to last as the economy is still not back at full strength right now. So in fiscal year 20, the city manager brought back a budget amendment May 13th. And he did some reductions in the 2020 budget, such as freezing positions of vacant parks and right-of-way coordinator, streets and stormwater manager, HR intern, and a summer youth internship.
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retreat,
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IT security study. And we got lucky there's two rubber crossing repair costs that we found that we weren't going to need to do. So in all,
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And we did have Stantec, ‸ our consultant, look at what's the worst case scenario, ‸ least worst case scenario and average. And they estimated the impact could be as much as $556,000. So we did make a significant decrease in our budget. Then looking at the 2021 budget, looking forward, the state came out with estimates and we compared that to what we had budgeted to the state's estimates.
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the impacts. ‸ But we did go ahead and reduce some of the categories because they are dependent on economic activity, such as local option gas tax, local business taxes,
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and then state revenue sharing. So we did reduce revenue and additional $114,000 trying
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to take a conservative approach to the budget.
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see the revenue for the impact fees is budgeted at $2.2 million. And then the rest of the utility fund has charges for services at $66.5 million. And then other non-revenues such as pulling from fund balance for capital projects is $8.5 million.
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The stormwater fee, the only revenue source there, there's some very minor ones, but the only revenue source there is that special
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And then here looking at revenue trends graphically, you can see the water and sewers going up and down, depending upon whether we're pulling out a fund balance, doing debt issues, things like that.
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So looking at the expenses for fiscal year 21 by fund, again, this is similar because we have to have a balanced budget on the revenue side, on the flip side, on the expense side. You'll see the same percentages that I went over on the revenue slide that shows the change from year to year on the
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expenditure side also.
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Then this slide is demonstrating the general fund expenditures ‸ by category. So personal services went down by six tenths of a percent, but there is a 3% increase, plus whatever was built into contract negotiations is built into the budget there. Operating increased 8.1% or a million dollars. The capital spending, again, because those capital projects are getting completed, and I'll show you the capital spending in the different areas in a moment, decreased by 7.7%. And then our grants and aids decreased by 24.7% because we got a lot of those projects done with the waterfront where we had a lot of grant funding there.
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budget.
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That's supposed to be personnel services, right? It's not personal services.
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It depends on which book you look at. Oh, okay. Personal services is all inclusive of your salaries and your benefits. Okay. Okay. So this slide here is showing you the general fund capital budget. As you can see, the capital spending has been reduced significantly. Again, trying to stay within what we're projecting our revenues are going to be. So
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department has a small amount of capital spending. Total capital spending for general fund is budgeted at $668,324. Then in the water and sewer fund, looking at that by division. As you can see, there's different categories, infrastructure, machinery and equipment, and IT hardware. There's not a lot of significant spending going on there. The CCRIP project is in full steam right now. So total capital spending in the water and sewer fund itself. So this one represents just the routine things like vehicle replacements and things like that is $891,541. So again, this is segregating the big capital projects from just the routine things that normally
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need to be
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replaced. And then if you look here, this is where the large capital spending is in this renewal and replacement fund.
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And then in engineering, they do a lot of the design and running the projects. There's $8.2 million budgeted. So the total amount of capital spending in the renewal and replacement fund is $10,284,879. And in stormwater, they have $290,000 in infrastructure and $190,000 in machinery and equipment. So they have a total of $480,000 budgeted for capital at this time. However, we have in the budget built in some contingency because we're waiting to find out on some grant status of $296,724. So we'll have to move that money out of contingency if these grant opportunities don't materialize. So as I said, we needed to do a lot of reductions. And the city manager worked with the departments a lot in trying to contain the spending. So there was a lot of capital spending being deferred.
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not sure about the economy, the first thing we do is defer capital spending. So this is a list of things that were deferred. The fire department is in need of a pumper truck for $640,000. Police department needs additional vehicles, even though we did budget for some vehicles that total about $175,000.
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We deferred for $120,000.
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fiscal year
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22, next year.
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the mid, point, and the maximum of the pay grades for general employees or as outlined within each union contract or by way of an MOU with the unions. Some of the unions contracts were already negotiated that established that and some of them, HR has been working with the unions to obtain an MOU. So the classification of pay grade schedule was provided to council with the proposed fiscal year 21 budget books. And this was done because city council at the budget workshop discussed working towards getting a minimum wage of $15 an hour. So this is just moving the minimum up for the pay grade. Also in fiscal year 21, what's included in the budget is a pay study, which hasn't been done since 2014 and implemented in 2015.
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above the minimum pay grade that's already established because ‸ wages are higher. And a lot of times HR is having to do small market studies to find out if we're going too low and they're finding out we're going too low and what our state
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of minimum rate is.
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And so, like I said, the, um, this pay grade schedule hasn't been updated since 2015. So at this point in time, I would like to be able to answer any questions or allow you all to have comments.
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Can you go back a couple of slides? Um, when you're looking at the one, yeah, right there. And I just want to,
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and maybe the city manager can explain a little bit because, you know, some people can take this for here the wrong way because I know we had multiple SUVs that came in and that, and you're talking about the pumper truck for the fire department. Uh,
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affected any kind of services by any means. So if you can, uh,
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yes, Mr. Mayor, uh, on that list, you see seven unmarked police patrol cars. Uh, we prioritized the, uh, those patrol sworn officers that you see on the street that respond to those 58,000 calls for service.
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detectives administrative staff.
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fleet manager who has a complete evaluation on each vehicle and, uh, can make the determination as to can this last another year? Uh, do we need to substitute this vehicle for another?
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And we really wanna focus on keeping that replacement schedule for those sworn officers on a rotation so we never go without. But there's other things that do impact that, such as the plant production of those vehicles. We're
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year. We did six last year that ‸ still awaiting those final ones to come in. So, you know, accidents happen with the vehicles And so sometimes their life expectancy is even shorter than what we anticipate. But we're trying to maintain that minimum standard for at least our patroller sworn. You see the Pierce Enforcer pumper truck, that's a request from the fire department. They have one of their older units is in need of replacement. That was ‸ particularly a challenging decision as, you know, working with the fleet manager, they do feel that we can get by another year based on ‸ the repairs that were being made to the current unit. What we do need to consider with that also is the downtime associated with any repairs that would be necessary. And so we take that into account as well.
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fleet, the fuel tanks. They did not pass inspection. And so that's something that I don't know that will be done this fiscal year. If you'll see that item at council, it's likely to be next fiscal year. That will be bringing that back for your consideration.
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And they were looking at the above ground tanks, right? That
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Yeah, that's the actual software management system for our entire fleet. So when a vehicle comes into the shop to be serviced, there's a software system where all the parts inventories track the vehicle condition.
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which vehicles we can defer, which ones we should keep in the service.
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Thank you.
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And I know you explained about the unknowns of COVID-19 and you explained that very well. I just wanted folks to know that see this right here. It's not like we're doing without. We're just not changing the equipment out right now because we can still get by ‸ what we have right now in some cases.
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Okay. That's it. ‸ This is a public hearing, so at this time I'm going to close it to the council and open it up to the public for any public comments. Mr.
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you have to, you ‸ had your
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for this. Okay, you're good. Okay.
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to close it to the public. We open it to the council. What is the wishes of the council?
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Motion to approve.
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If you could read aloud the request of that. Oh, I'm sorry.
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Approve resolution number 2020-202
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commencing on October 1st, 2020 and ending on September 30th, 2021. Second.
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All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? It
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unanimously. Thank you,
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matt
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second public hearing for September 23rd at 6 p.m. here in the chambers and at that time Council will be requested to adopt a final millage rate and adopt the final fiscal year 2021 budget and that will be advertised in an upcoming newspaper.
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Thank you. Good job, ma'am.
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You're welcome.
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Appreciate it. Good job,
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Rebecca.
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Perfect. We're going to move on to Council business to approve the current total enforcement lien
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Is somebody supposed to speak on it? Motion to approve.
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make that second. Chair make ‸ second. All
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unanimously. Item number two. ‸ Approve the
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1311 in Elizabeth Avenue to be
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enforcement board. Yes ma'am. Can you? She's got it.
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Okay. My e-comment is from Larry Sinclair
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And the comment is this code reduction is nothing short of special treatment for a friend of the mayor or board chair in the fact that Alec Greenwood continued to ignore the code liens and violations and was allowed to use his seat on planning and zoning board to have zoning change to permit his violation to not be a violation is a violation of ethics laws in the law.
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and their failures refusal to comply for two years is not worthy of a lien reduction that
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Everyone else George Brown Jim Gifford and others should be immediately removed from serving on the code board after this blatant display of favoritism and ignoring the facts that Greenwood perjured himself before this code board in 2017.
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a friend. This board and its member who repeatedly
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about what Greenwood has done and donated to this city is an outright lie and you can't produce a single instance of a single donation by Alec Greenwood to this city.
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will personally pay for every citizen who has had to pay a cent and code lien since 2017.
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discussion on this. Go ahead. ‸ Everyone pays what the city recommends. I
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Now, because ‸ we've never gone to zero with anybody. Yes, we have. Yeah, we have. When? You show me. Back
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I think it was 2014, 2015. I'm not talking. I'm talking lately, you know, with the council. So why
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But the staff recommended that he pays $2,600.92 like everybody else would pay. That was you, me, or anybody else.
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So I'm not for it. I'll tell you that right now.
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Okay. Thank you for your question, sir.
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Any other questions? The recommendation, what I'm reading is to approve the code enforcement claim for the property
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zero.
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That's the code enforcement. The
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Do you have enough information on it?
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I take this mask off. I'll do my best.
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to the city's work. It has nothing to do with the ‸ fines that were incurred.
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city, which is the $2,692. The code board voted, and they opted to go with a fine of zero.
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‸ The property
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here, and ‸ I can tell you, ‸ I was a part of the home maintenance plan that came about, and ‸ this is the gravel that we're talking about. That was one of the solutions that was recommended at the time during the home maintenance plan. There was gravel, there was ‸ mulch, and there was also pine needles that someone can use to put down as part of their driveway. And it was
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point in time, and our code enforcement supervisor at the time that stated to that as well.
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but there
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different folks that ‸ got in our code enforcement that became members or employees with the city on the code enforcement and some things that ‸ just look, I guess things are looked at differently. But I'm just telling what I know and from my experience and what was told and what was stated in here. During the time when we created this home maintenance plan that was intent back then, I don't think anything's changed verbiage-wise, but here we are.
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This whole thing about ‸ doing someone a favor, I don't do anyone favors like that. So I just want to clarify that.
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Just kidding.
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any kind of a gain whatsoever, but for very simple circumstances, I was the first to be charged for putting gravel down when I was upgrading this property. It was never enforced before that.
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commercial. ‸ Then there was a
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It's, you cannot decipher the difference between commercial and residential. And there were some other later residential units that were charged. And that basically they voted that this should not be enforced any longer. And it came before the council and the city manager at that time, because
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That's what transpired. Basically, I don't really like to bring it out this way, but I was singled out for this one item. I was given information by the police. I'm sorry, by the building chief that there is no permit required to put gravel down.
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And it's still like that.
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been there for years. I've been a license, state license builder, and I've known that this gravel was always a way to keep from just having a dirt driveway, which is what was there. And that is also a good base for when you want to come back later and put concrete on it. And it provides a solution because concrete, of course, is a lot more expensive than the gravel, but it solves the problem about the dirt driveway. Basically, by having this ordinance that really was vague and not clear, and
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it basically was sending the wrong message to the city that the city preferred any renovations, leave dirt to your front door. Don't put lime rock or anything else down. The other options for coverage, much more expensive than concrete. They're beautiful, but it's done in very expensive homes. And this is all over the city.
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that now the gravel issue,
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didn't make sense to me. So I left it alone because of people ‸ making statements that I'm being self-serving.
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knew that there would be other people with the same position as myself. And sure enough, that's what came up. There
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and that's when they made a vote that they feel it's highly recommended to stop enforcing this code because it's so
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and it's still like that.
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Thank you, sir. And I just want to add that, you know, we have a lot of, some of
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the early 50s. I mean, the early 60s and late 50s. They didn't have driveways.
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There was ‸ homes and dirt going up to the carports. And you can see
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and then some of the older subdivisions that we have in the city. And that's why when we came up with this home maintenance plan, we looked at ways of different things that we can do other than requiring someone to put down a concrete driveway or whatever the case might be because it was very expensive for some of
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folks that live in some of these homes.
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And then there was also residents that had a single-car garage that was built, you know, back in the early 60s. Didn't have a double-car garage. And now they have a husband and a wife and a kid with a vehicle. They had nowhere to drive. And our ordinance ‸ prevented it from parking on the grass. So what they, in turn, said, well, you can park parallel to your driveway, but you'd have to put gravel, mulch, or pine needles down to represent a driveway. So here we are. There's some stuff that needs to be changed and maybe need to be tweaked in there and need to be looked at. But there's a number of homes still today that have the gravel driveways. I mean, they do. There's a number.
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If you ever
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Maybe because of
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location, ‸ because of its location, you know, to City Hall. ‸ And, you know, I don't know. I don't know the story behind it. But
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I thought it was absolutely ridiculous.
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And I knew what the Chapter 6 involved and what it was all about and why it was put in place.
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far. We need to just start looking at stuff and maybe making some corrections and ‸ making some modifications to some of these codes.
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and what's going on in your city and make those necessary changes
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benefit your ‸ residents, ‸ in a sense.
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I had a house that had gravel for a parking pad
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we were told we couldn't park on the dirt. So, we put down gravel for the parking pad. Had to get a permit. No problem. Just had to make sure that that gravel was secured so that it wouldn't, because the house was on a slope, so that the gravel wouldn't wash down into the gutters during a rainstorm. No problem. Six years later, went to replace that gravel because it had worn down over time and was told that gravel was not a possibility. We've had a couple other residents in here who were cited. I'm pretty sure ‸ we had a gentleman in here who was cited for gravel because he was complaining that he had bought a car for his daughter and now he had no place for her to park. Mrs. Bunt, has there been some change in the code over the course of years? Because I'm living in one of those homes, the mayor mentioned, that doesn't have a driveway. And when I called and asked about putting some mulch down, I was told I couldn't do it.
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Or does it change depending on who you talk to?
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I hope it doesn't change depending on who you talk to because the code is what's written in black and white. So, it says that an approved substance, either asphalt concrete or approved substance, is approved by ‸ either the city engineer or the community development director. So, I've been here since 2005. We've never allowed any kind of pine needles, mulch, millings. And it's the type of gravel that he used.
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It was out into the road two years later. It's still out in the road.
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board.
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code enforcement board found him in violation of the city's code. So, that's why the fine was running this long. Once he complied, he was able to come in for lean reduction.
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apron. Community development oversees the actual driveway. So, there is approved rock that is allowed in a driveway.
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Because even though he installed it ‸ before the driveway apron, it is still two years later was coming out into the street, which was going down the stormwater. So, that's why he was ‸ found in violation.
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Okay. So, you cannot use mulch, millings, or anything in your driveway. So, when I was told I was not allowed to put mulch to park on.
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Correct.
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That was correct. That
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And there are, yes, there are some other houses that do have rock. It's the type of rock that they use or they were grandfathered in prior to the city's change of the code. Okay.
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So, that notate that.
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Okay. I know the one gentleman in District 2 that ‸ I dealt with, ‸ he had put his original gravel down back around 2000, and he was just trying to improve it and make it look better when he was told he was violating the code by doing that. So, I think he did get a letter saying that he was grandfathered in because it had been down so long. And he wasn't adding to it. He was just trying to make it look better than it looked currently. So, I think that's what he got. So, somebody who does have that situation who wants to ‸ make improvements can call your department and possibly get a letter saying their grandfathered in. Correct. Okay. And that
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has happened. Also, ‸ I don't have to disagree with Mr. Greenwood, when code enforcement was with community development, we had cited, code enforcement had cited other people for the type of rock ‸ and millings as well. Okay. And mulch, that kind of stuff.
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I think we actually cited an industrial building for millings or something. I seem to remember a few years ago to a commercial building, had put millings down without a permit and got cited.
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speaking with Public Works is that possibly ‸ having different standards for industrial, commercial properties. Because some of, like, your industrial properties, if you require them to put concrete or asphalt down their driveway, it would be a substantial cost to them. So, depending on whether, sometimes they have secondary driveways, and so we'd have to look at each one depending on whether or not, you know, their primary driveway would probably be asphalt. Because
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some of these commercial enterprises have huge, heavy trucks, and so it is a huge ‸ cost to put in a concrete or asphalt driveway. Okay. Thank you.
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Bunn, there's,
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‸ But Ms. Bunn, I just wanted to add that I was in those public meetings, and I know there was a lot of concern from the residents with reference to, uh,
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parallel with their driveways, and they couldn't afford to put in that second driveway. I'm going to bring that documentation in so you can see it, because it was mentioned, and, uh, and it was actually, there was an article as well from our, our, um, community development director and the code enforcement supervisor at the time, And they were allowed to put plastic down and put mulch down on top of that plastic,
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They identified their driveway as a secondary driveway parallel with their current driveway. And,
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but that did happen in the meetings.
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that article.
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I'm just saying it is the, what the city code says. Yes. That it's approved material.
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Yeah, it was, yeah, we had the code, but there was this, this, this just happened because there were, residents that was in uproar because they were going to have to park in the yard and they didn't want to get cited. ‸ And so the city agreed at that time that they would allow certain things to happen, you know,
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And the main concern is the stormwater. If it washes out into the street and into the stormwater, it just causes a lot of issues and
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So that's really that what determines the type of material.
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you roll it. If it's dry, it's horrible material. So, I think we need to look at this code and make some changes to this. Um, maybe at the next meeting we can review this and within the next two weeks or so to kind of look at, um, what
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‸ we can do to make changes because some of this stuff is maybe old and antiquated and, you do have people with smaller
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which costs right now 150 a yard.
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that grass, but yet they can't afford to, to pour a driveway. So we got to come up with something to accommodate, um people that can't afford, um to pour concrete. So I think we need to review that. And
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let me just correct myself. It's actually loose millings.
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loops Okay.
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Right. And that's where there was a property in the Regina
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subdivision. It had a slight incline and they put down loose millings. ‸ And those loose millings were also coming out into the street. ‸ So similar. We do have some with the crush, um millings where they actually heat them up. That's not a problem.
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Yeah. I do myself. Yes. um
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to, but, but I know how to do the work as well. And I'm, you know, fortunate to be able to do that, but there are so many people that cannot afford to do it. And then they're going to get a violation for parking on their grass when they cannot afford. So it's, ‸ we can alleviate some of these things that we can change this code. So ‸ I request that we look at it. I know we got to handle this item. um but moving forward, maybe we can look at the item and, and, ‸ specify the particular, materials and the practices of that material.
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‸ put a process with
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‸ because it has to be impervious. So we don't have any alternatives to that.
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this, I kept riding by that house, so
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i was just
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and I haven't seen any indication of stones, of of them moving. I guess it's compacted now. Because
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he came into compliance, so he removed the rock. it He's pushed it up. Okay, well this was
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before, yeah, this is before that. This was about a year ago when I was looking at it.
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Thank you, ma'am. I just don't want us to get into all these little personal issues, because, you know, I know the gentleman that actually made the statement about this one case right here actually
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a recommendation by the Code Enforcement Board and, ‸ of course, the council at the time elected it to take it down to zero. So you know this is ‸ just ridiculous. The code enforcement made a recommendation. These guys have a lot of years of experience on that board and they have their reason for making their recommendation. And it is what it is and that's why I made the motion.
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got a second. There's no more discussions. I'm going to go ahead and call the question. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? No. I didn't get everything. ‸ Who voted for? I know we had
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item number three.
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you. Approve the current code enforcement lien for property located at 112 Derby Street to be reduced down to $1,007.60 as recommended by the code enforcement board. I got a second from the chair. So we
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saying aye.
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Okay. Item number five or number four. I'll consider a requirement on Mr. Michael Kern and Mr. Paul
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pension board through September the 30th, 2024. We got a motion
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saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed?
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Thank you, sir.
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That includes the ratification of Mr. John Casey to the police pension board?
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ma'am. Okay. Thank you. Yes.
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Okay. We can move on to item number five. Consider the appointment of Stefan Harrell as a member of the General Employee Pension Board through
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saying aye.
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Aye. Opposed?
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Item number six. Consider approving a city manager
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Thank you, sir, for being here. If you all didn't know, this is our ‸ new city manager right here.
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Thank you.
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As ‸ the council directed, we put together a draft employment contract. The employment contract is in proper legal form and sufficiency, substantially similar to what we've used in the past, but ‸ a more updated version. Um, you know, as stated in the agenda item, the,
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um,
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with respect to compensation and benefits, uh, that are being requested, um, by Mr. Witten. Those are, those are set forth and not only in the contract, but, um, itemized them in the agenda item for the, for the council to see. So, um, ‸ the contract is in order. Um,
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it's
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ready for you to consider and vote if necessary.
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‸ Well, she's got an e-comment if she wants to.
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And this e-comment is from Larry Sinclair at 1052 Mitchell Street. I'm just going
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Comment. Any city manager employment agreement must contain within a clause which specifically authorizes and directs the new city manager to immediately contact Brevard County
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and or Florida Department of Law Enforcement. to conduct investigations
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any member, council has violated ethics laws, city charter terms, Florida sunshine laws. Without ‸ such investigation requests disclosed to council until a final investigative report has been produced.
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Thank you, ma'am. I
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make a motion to approve the contract presented to us.
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Warner.
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signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? The passage
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Thank you, sir. If you want to...
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I'm going to make a comment, Mr. ‸ Maybe tell people when you plan to start work. October 9th.
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you for the honor of becoming your city manager.
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looking forward to...
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working with
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‸ staff, to uh make the city the best place
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thank
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you,
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sir. Welcome on board. Okay. Our last item up is our city business has
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rate
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Second.
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No, wait a minute. What comment? I want to hear from Rebecca. Rebecca's
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had to talk all night.
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This
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is suspending it. Give her a break.
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Well, the word suspend should tell everybody they need to know they're not getting a 5% rate increase.
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Yes, this agenda item is to approve a resolution suspending the automatic 5% increase.
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our consultant, comes forward with the revenue sufficiency analysis. And so in this fiscal year, staff has been working with them to do a full utility rate study update. And because the utility rate study is not ready for adoption at this time, we're requesting that council
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in ‸ the last rate study. And we will be holding a workshop in the coming months. We're working out the schedule to discuss the recommendation from the consultants regarding miscellaneous fees, impact fees, the consumption tier, and the unoccupied property policy issues that we've looked at.
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when we went through the budget workshop. So any of these things that are being looked at during the course of the full utility rate study may increase or decrease a customers bill and it will be back brought back to council for approval with that full utility rate study by way of a advertised public hearing in the near future. Thank
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you, ma'am. we got a motion and a second, right? ‸ All in favor, signify by saying
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aye. Aye. Opposed? It passes unanimously.
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in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye.

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