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We'll get the newbie in because she's doing, ‸ excuse me, but it's also her birthday too as well tomorrow.

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Happy birthday tomorrow.

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Yeah, so you know what I'm going

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get you. I'll just wait to council meeting to get you. Oh

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dear.

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Okay, we'll be by agency member Weeks.

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device. Everyone stand, please.

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all right. Yes.

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Thank you for another day

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life, health and strength. Lord bless us as we go through this meeting that we make wise decisions for the city of Cocoa. Bless all the citizens within the city of Cocoa and may we have a great meeting tonight. In Jesus name we pray. ‸ Amen.

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pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you very much. May we do roll call, please, Mr. Clerk. Yes, sir.

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Mr. Chairman. Thank you very much, Mr.

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Clerk. Mr. Ryan. Proceeding forward with tonight's meeting. Item number two. Approval of the agenda. The agenda. Special meeting September the 10th, 2024. What are the wishes of the agency? Motion to approve.

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have a motion on the floor by agency member.

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Second.

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okay. Give it to the new.

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Give it to the new.

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Chair's going to call the question. All in favor of saying aye.

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Aye.

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Aye's have it

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unanimously.

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We have one card on the delegations. Is that correct?

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Yes, sir.

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Please front and center, sir, to the podium.

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Yes, sir.

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Mr. Greenwood has submitted some handouts. Make sure you have a copy, please, ma'am. Please, sir.

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That's exhibit A, according to Mr. Clerk. And

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exhibit

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B will be the second one. This one that says Melbourne. You got it? Okay. Yeah,

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you

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know that.

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All right. Thank you. Thank you, sir. And I do have, and I'll provide the paperwork. There is another member of the commercial property group that wanted to allow me to speak another minute or two longer. I'm not going to need six minutes. But I didn't want to rush it and not make any sense while I'm up here, even though sometimes I don't. But anyway. Alex Greenwood, Brevard Avenue, Cocoa, Florida. Greetings to the CRA board, chairperson, Mr. Blake, and the rest of the staff. I'm going to read something that was in the paper only recently, and that was exactly what the mayor had stated, where in Melbourne, Florida, they're advertising what they're doing.

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And remember that. Because if you look on the second page, the second template B, ‸ if you look on pages at the very bottom on the right, you will see number seven. And then it goes to eight, nine, ten, eleven. That is the information that is going out to the public. And because these issues are of a very serious concern and the damage control, we had a brainstorm session. We came up with, I think, all of us, a very good idea. We need to take and advertise. We have a new community relations representative. And I highly recommend that you look into potentially putting some kind of an article in the paper or a TV interview, something that will state and promote what we're getting ready to do.

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building where the boat docks are. And during that time, now that we're at the point of breaking ground, I think it's very important that we brag about ourselves. And what that will do is we can say we're adding more parking, more lighting, more cameras and ‸ security representatives. What that means is, is that we now are saying,

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to promote the self safety and well-being of Cocoa, including downtown Cocoa Village.

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same second packet B, it does state that there was funds that were approved to go to the police department.

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no, because it was supposed to be an every year kind of thing.

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There was some funds, but not like what we, what was discussed by you folks about advocating funds for police representation. So, um, with that in mind, having a security company is a lot less expensive. We just need presence, uh, police presence. If you want to use that word, uh, but, uh,

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like from six o'clock in the evening till two. The advantage is, is that they're not as expensive as a police department. They can work with them, but it shows that someone, I, I don't, a lot of them don't like the idea of two or three officers. It sends the wrong message. We're talking about one that will walk up and down the two main three streets that we have, you know, just be seen, walk by, ‸ see how everything is. Talk to the tourists and customers that are there at least when, for example, the homeless people, when they see that kind of thing, they're not going to be comfortable enough to maybe decide to take a nap. I mean, right now they don't see anything like that. They think that it's, you know, open that they can do whatever they want. Um, and yes, they got rights. You know, you can't just arrest them right away because they were there. However, there's other avenues you can use like loadering, you know, things like that to keep that down. So the reason I'm bringing this up is because,

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pamphlet a, uh, I'm going to read off of it because it plays right into us. Yes, sir.

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Time. You're good.

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Give them more time.

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Start it

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again. Yes,

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ma'am.

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‸ Thank you.

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You're welcome.

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All right. I'm going to jump around a little bit and point out the most important things. Uh,

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The main street executive director, Kim, a key. Says her goal each day is to make the area desirable and safe for visitors, tourists and locals to enjoy. Same thing for us. Uh,

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the past few years. We're just trying to restore the community's confidence.

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at this position,

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advance. Uh, the other thing

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to ward off issues like homelessness. And some crime issues, especially on the weekends. This plays right into us. Towards the bottom. They have security police security detail in place on Thursdays, Friday, Saturday evenings, patrolling the streets. The difference between that idea and what I'm proposing is to have some kind of a security guard company with one person that continues to walk around. Just to be seen. And not only that, he can help promote right and wrong with people he walks into. Uh,

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worry. It sends a message to the community that downtown is safe. We are taking all the measures that we can to impart all the personnel and technology, just like other towns across the country do. So what I'm asking is that please consider the idea. The majority of the people in the commercial property group are very excited about it.

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He's wanted to sign the petition with everyone else that shows that he's supporting that.

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been working on for three years, noise ordinances, things like that.

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Otherwise I can speak with you all individually and separately. Is there any questions? Thank you.

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Thank you very much, Mr. Greenwood, sir. ‸ This concludes this portion of delegations. We will go to presentations. Seeing none,

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CRA fiscal year 2025.

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2 of this particular item, we're talking about

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floor over to Mrs. Nooderman.

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As you know, we are going through a CRA plan update. So a lot of the goals and objectives for the new CRA plan ‸ will be solidified during that plan update process. In the meantime, for the FY25 budget, because we have to have a budget in place by October 1,

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items of our salary benefits. All of those items are already there. The personnel expenses ‸ are operating

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of 61,000, which are the average operating

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for the CRA. In contingency, we have 1.5 million set aside for

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which are 2 items that are currently in our CRA plan. And should those items, um, obviously the need for the civic center is, is a great to do a renovation. This will be a phased process to renovate, uh, based on the need, uh, to get that project completed. Uh, previously we had quotes set aside close to $5 million for full renovation of the civic center. Obviously the CRA does not have the funds to support something of that nature in a grand scale for one fiscal year. So we're going to do a project set aside for phasing and to be determined on what that need is based on working with public works to, to figure out that the importance for what is prioritized for that. So we'll have that discussion. Once we get through this process, uh, we have our debt service, which is our leases,

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We have grants, uh, right now totaling a hundred thousand dollars and that change will take place in the next agenda item.

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to the city, which is the river park riverfront park city maintenance and the community policing fund. The city

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Our total budget, as

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And our

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revenue to match what the budget is. Uh, that budget will be updated. Once we get Tiff revenue and actual revenues later on in the fiscal year, and we'll be bringing back any adjustments that need to be made. But at this

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year 25 to be presented before council for final budget approval. Um, I'm available for any questions. Mrs. Nooneman.

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yes ma'am.

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Yes. Just to be clear on the 2 million that you say is our budget that really reflects that we didn't use the monies for the, um, Lee winter park that set aside. Is that just rolling over into this budget because.

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Those will roll over. You will see that reflected, um, typically in November we do the roll for any funds that are not used in fiscal year 24 will automatically roll into fiscal year 25. The purchase order that we have currently for Lee winter park is an automatic roll. So that budget will automatically roll.

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Right. So the point.

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is all new

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money. It's

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all. Okay. But it's committed. I mean, we've already accepted a, uh, contract. So we're, we're not really.

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not for the civic center.

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the

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civic center. Just Lee winter park. So that's in fiscal

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year 24.

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Correct.

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That has nothing to do with the 2 million that you're seeing in fiscal year 25.

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Okay. So that money is not in this budget.

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Wow.

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Okay. ‸ Rolled into 25. So at, after September 30th, we, we look at the purchase order, depending ‸ on how many invoices we've already paid for that

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So I don't know how much we will have an invoice. Once that invoice is paid, we roll that, that PO into the fiscal year. So that budget automatically rolls into 25.

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Okay. And on the civic center, the 500,000, you were implied that perhaps we would do spend more in a phase manner. Uh,

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I put in contingency 1.5 million for,

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and what does that include? I mean, I

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don't have any numbers. Okay.

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have to budget funds based on what's in our CRA plan. ‸ And we have, the parking is one ‸ priority. And the civic center is a priority. So we have, in essence, we have created a project that can be modified by the CRA should they choose to modify that at a later date.

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Okay.

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because economically it didn't make sense. Right.

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Correct.

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Then we looked over at the civic center, which the vision that was given to us from the consultants ran around 5 million.

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Correct. Which is what I noted. Yes.

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Which makes absolutely no sense to me because one way or the other, you're going to have to, it's going to raise the fees. I think that was the main concern for some was that the fees that would now be charged at the ‸ current civic center. Well, whether you spend 5 million there or 7 million fees are going to have to go up to replace that. Is that not correct? Because it's not a 501 C. This is a city owned project. Correct. And when I look at, there's a difference in the sizes of these two buildings.

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what we currently have in the current civic center. So what I'm saying is I ‸ do not recall us saying we will never have a building, whether you call it a civic center or a community center or any kind of building. We never threw it out of the updated waterfront

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It's still there. I don't recall saying we're committing to 5 million, whether it's staged or not. The last I recall is that we would maybe do the repairs for the air conditioning, replace the carpet, but it was not, it was a more of a refreshment and not an updated civic center that has no parking and is now going to lose the parking that is across the street. So for those reasons, I just want to make sure that we are not saying this is what we're doing because I do not recall us ever taking one out of the updated plan.

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just can't add something in. Do you see where I'm,

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where I'm going with this? I think what

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that are outlined in the plan.

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any decisions with regards to ‸ refreshment or refurbishment of the civic center. ‸ But again, because you're going through a plan update, the best, the prudent course of action is to just park those in big categories. Uh, and then you guys will determine the details of your budget when either the plan is updated or at a later date there. So, so you're correct. We may have actually gone back and updated the plan to actually, uh, take the, the,

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But, but,

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either, either way, it's just a budget that budgets, uh, dollars in broad categories that allows you to actually get through the update of the plan and then determine where you want to, to, uh, to itemize dollars for projects at a later date.

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Okay. It's just a little confusing because, you know, we give budget priorities last meeting and then, you know, the only thing I see that we agreed upon was on the a hundred thousand addition.

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So I'm sorry if I've, uh, but no, we never read. We didn't reject, uh, the civic center in any location. It was just left there. It because 5 million wasn't going to fly either. So we just kind of said, let's see if we can refresh it. So I just want to kind of do a little history here.

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When are we having the workshop for that? Because see, that's another thing. I thank you for bringing that up. ‸ No, I'm talking. No,

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All

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those docs.

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CRA plan update open house for the update is

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Right.

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Uh, from 11 AM to 7 PM at the civic center.

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And that's what I was going to ask. Right.

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is during that. That

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is all inclusive.

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Wow. Okay. Okay. I'm just. There

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for a long day.

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Wow. And we'll have water engineers there.

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Okay. I guess I don't understand what we're doing here.

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this is. So this is an open house where they're soliciting input. And so, and so this is a, this is a, they're,

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the planners are going to be there from 11 AM to 7 PM. You may work.

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may not be able to get there until 5 PM. And so, and so you can come in during any of these times and, and, and, uh, and give us input on the CRA plan. And ultimately they're coming back in front of this board to actually prevent, to present the findings, uh, from the public input and to get your input. So, so again, this is just as it says, this is an open house where the planners, where city staff will be available, uh,

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to receive any input that anybody wants to walk in and give to, to the planners. Okay.

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I'll be

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And I'll, during our reports, I'll go over the form, how the format's going to be for that.

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It is, sir. Thank you. ‸ Ma'am.

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You know, me and my little number of things. When, when the numbers are far apart from this year and last year, I always like to ask why.

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on page four of this, um, about 40% of the way down the travel and per diem is doubling. It is it just

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travel costs have doubled or are we getting traveling more places or what's the deal there?

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Travel costs have gone up. Hotel costs for the conference that's in October has gone up.

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Wow.

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fees for the hotel have gone up.

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Okay.

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And more agency members are going. Oh,

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‸ well, that's good.

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is the bad thing. I just like to know when the numbers are really dead and then a little bit further down closer to the button where it says, um, rentals and leases.

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and that goes up every year by a percentage.

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So we don't know what it is

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you've got zero budgeted for this year.

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Yes. Okay. All right. That was, those were the two main ones. That's, you know, that's, it's fine. And I understand. I understand. I like the word that the city manager used of parking the money.

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Yes.

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It's, it's a big blob of money. It's

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And when we have ‸ our plan, we will plug our plan into the big blob of money. Works for me. Thank you.

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And like I said, we're required by Florida statute in order to have something. Make a budget. I get it. And so we're following the protocol with that, which can be modified by the agency at any time.

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Okay.

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Yeah. Um, so I, ‸ this is just my opinion. I think we, as a body have not done a good job with directing staff to do what our priorities have been.

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And so,

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not doing that, then it does not in some cases move forward in the budget because we have not made that direction and or vote as a body to move that item forward. So I just say that to say, to kind of piggyback on what you're saying, you're absolutely right. Sometimes we don't see that in reflection of what we discussed, like my, my famous parking lot that I talk about, but I have not and did not make a ‸ motion to move that forward. I kind of, I threw it to the city manager. Hey, look, get maybe find out how much this calls that

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Um, and then maybe a month later, I'm still like, well, what happened to it? But I have not, I, in my situation did not direct staff to move it.

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And so we took all of your priorities and that,

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those are items that we have to look for pricing and try to figure out how it fits into the budget, how it fits into the goals and objectives of the plan. And,

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bring those priorities back to you to actually budget accordingly. So, so we didn't ignore your priorities as that was not the, the intent of this budget was not to ignore the priorities, but to come back to you with here is what your priorities were and here's what we can do. And again, you are in the process of a plan update. So we want to take those priorities, share those with our consultant and, and kind of facilitate gravitating

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Okay.

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Point taken

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to facilitate. Now, obviously every month you can bring to us, I need you to do this and I direct you to do this and that's where we can do that. And as long as it meets the goals and objectives of our plan, then we can facilitate those. But, but we definitely have your priorities and plan on coming back with some ideas.

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And to a team member Rogers point about the city civic center conversation. Um, I know this is not the time and the place to even have that discussion right now, but I know that's going to be a robust conversation.

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civic center on the riverfront. Some wanted to stay where it is. Um,

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So we can end that conversation one way or another and, and figure out what are we going to do?

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sit there and linger on for the next X amount of years that discussion, because this discussion has

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floating around for kind of like the parking garage conversation, you know? So how do we, what, what, what, what does city managers and their staff recommend us to do as far as the civic center combo? Yeah,

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I just, I leaned over to Charlene.

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I thought that in the plan it said, uh, civic center and Lee winter

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It just said perhaps waterfront, uh, civic center or something like that. And again, I'll stand corrected on that. But, but

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all talks out of a civic center

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in.

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And so we did have the consultant as

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I think there were two versions of redoing the current, uh, civic center. Right. Even that's expensive. You know, that's, that's, that's almost unaffordable. And so, and so ultimately at the end of the day, you got, you have a civic center, you know, we can bring back the, uh, the, uh,

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schematics, if you will,

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and let you take a look at that again. And so, but again, that, that was 5 million and I forget what the other cost was.

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well, we're,

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no longer entertaining discussion of a civic center on the water. And we, the best we can do is look at, uh, refurbishing, um, an improvement of what we have. Okay.

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Um, so, so I make a motion that staff brings that back to us and so that we can have that discussion because again, we, we just in my experience of being on this particular, um, board, we have a lot of discussions, important discussions that just kind of linger and linger and linger, but we never really come to a resolution on what we, what we really want as a, as a body. You know what

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mean? So that's just my opinion.

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Yeah. And it's all coming back regardless because you're,

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you're in this CRA plan update. So, so it's all coming back to you, uh, the,

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big things, the things with detail there.

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so, and so you'll, you'll have that sort of comprehensive discussion about how the plan has changed, what updates you want to make to the plan. And then you can talk about the details of civic centers and the, are you talking about the Oleander parking lot? Yeah.

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Yeah. I mean, it's been a parking garage conversation no matter where it was talked about,

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of that, but there always been a conversation.

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own hell.

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I'll put you on that. So let me, let me ask one more question.

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seven. People can come in and out. They have boards everywhere with sticky notes. You can put a green,

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you

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can put a red, you can put a yellow, you can.

[00:32:59] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

And exactly. So ‸ exactly how we did the four corners, ‸ except we're doing it over an eight hour period to be able to accommodate those who have schedules that prohibit like Matt member ets, who works until 5 PM and can't come before, but could come

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afterwards

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And so I think

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the thought ‸ was maybe more of a conversation so we can hear people's point of view. That's why I think that's what happened. Done in the past.

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That's coming next.

[00:33:35] Speaker 10

Gotcha. Yeah. It's a,

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it's a

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multi-phase public input board input process. Okay.

[00:33:43] Speaker 1

You have a motion on the floor. Do you want to rescind your motion now that you want

[00:33:48] Speaker 11

to rescind it?

[00:33:49] Speaker 1

Yes, sir. Okay.

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All right. Are you finished? Yes, sir.

[00:33:53] Speaker 1

Okay. I have councilwoman calls. Then I have, excuse me. I'm sorry. I have agency member calls. Then I have

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Are you? Yes. Yeah. You're after her. Yes, ma'am.

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Okay.

[00:34:08] Speaker 6

Yeah. So the, what are the, do you have dates yet or at least like a rough timeframe for the CRA, the follow up from the open house?

[00:34:19] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

We'll be scheduling those after the 26th. Okay. Okay. It's, it is very quick.

[00:34:24] Speaker 6

Okay. So it'll be before the end of the year.

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Yes.

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it'll be

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Before the end of the year, because the goal is to have the plan finished before March.

[00:34:33] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

Okay. And I recall the last time we ended up having a couple of meetings right before Christmas and we had a

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planning any meetings right before Christmas.

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Okay,

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good.

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but at any rate, it's, it's just good to have them before that, that season.

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have an arrangement or how does that work that his, we have a contract and

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we have a five year agreement with the

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Uh

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huh. Who

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is the owner of the building. Uh,

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increase in the rent. Uh, years four

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And then we negotiate for the next five year agreement.

[00:35:29] Speaker 10

So you're, you're paying the lease for the post office to be in that building.

[00:35:34] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

Yeah. And we definitely need a post office. I have no problem with that. But we

[00:35:39] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

also have an agreement with the post office and

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know,

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not the full amount of the lease payment to the towers, but a portion of it.

[00:35:50] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

Ah, okay. I was just going to say that is a market rate. We, we'd go with the market rate because he's got a pretty good deal going ‸ there. Um, you know, even when, I mean, the post office is not going anywhere versus other folks that may rent from you.

[00:36:10] Speaker 2

I haven't done the calculations, but I would gather that I think that's less than market rate. Cause that's a 62,000 over a course of a year. It's about $5,000 a month.

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Right.

[00:36:21] Speaker 2

And that includes the maintenance portion of it as well. So, um,

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but

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the post office is just a small portion of it. Right?

[00:36:35] Speaker 2

Well,

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the,

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the, that whole floor, the first floor of that side of the building. Remember you only see the front part of the post office where the public access, but the back access where all of the mail ‸ is stored is, and I have to look up the square footage, but it,

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value.

[00:36:57] Speaker 6

Okay. Thank you. Mm.

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I can do that calculation actually and bring it back. I'd like to share that with all of you.

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just while we're talking, okay.

[00:37:13] Speaker 8 + overlapping voice

While we're talking about the post office, we get some revenue. So what is our shortfall? Because it was 40,000, I think

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office, the U S postal service.

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Um,

[00:37:43] Speaker 9

yeah,

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well, that's true. Um, then I guess the other thing when we're talking about, these are big projects when you're talking about, um, ‸ civic center,

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refurbishing or you're building

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you

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those quotes that we got are all

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the

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old quotes.

[00:38:00] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

Oh, yes. These are,

[00:38:01] Speaker 8 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

I mean, so we're,

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We will.

[00:38:05] Speaker 8 + overlapping voice

I know we'll get new quotes, but I think, uh, since we have a lot of things coming online, hopefully, um, maybe some of that will be

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Hopefully. Yeah. Because we're sundowning and so we need to kind of pick out our big projects.

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Those were just engineers estimates, you know, so, so. Yeah.

[00:38:34] Speaker 8 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

Well, okay. I don't want to get into the weeds. I know we need to move along, but, uh, thank you very much.

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Okay.

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But

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let it finish. Are you finished?

[00:38:48] Speaker 8 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

No. Yeah. ‸ Okay. We ‸ have a motion

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on

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And

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a

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second by agency member Rogers. She's going to call the question. All in favor, saying aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. A second and final item for tonight.

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of an updated commercial facade improvement program.

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was

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brought to

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Do you have any questions for us or you would like to expound on this if not I'm sure somebody's gonna ‸ make a motion to approve this I

[00:39:51] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice

believe that the motion on the table is to ‸ increase the maximum

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had noted the cost for us to do the work has increased substantially over the last few years. ‸ Is

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long time ago. Okay.

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We have

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So I I'm just curious do when you when we give grants like that is it similar to other programs where the recipient has to, they receive a letter and they have to file that as I don't know is it a gift or an income on their federal income taxes it

[00:40:42] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

is a grant and so that's I think I'd have to defer to the attorney on whether or not they have to file is it is okay for their taxes. Yeah, that would be their tax accountant would have to make that determination I don't have that ‸ okay

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three years ago, we gave a grant and the work was done but then they bequeathed it to a 501 C and as I understand on a 501 C you have to have a percentage, a certain percentage of retail, because this is what the spirit of the grant is, is to encourage, retail, employ people in the community etc etc how do we prevent that from happening I'm not really sure we've actually closed that little loophole where we would not know if somebody did the work and then turned around and gave it to a 501 C that has no retail whatsoever it

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says

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in the you're ineligible as a 501 C unless you ‸ contribute have some aspect of your business is retail so I'm just saying

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the owner surrenders or turns it over bequeaths ‸ it to a 501 C three can we tie stipulations to that? Are there an attachment so stipulations through that?

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I'm not sure that all nonprofit corporations are ineligible I mean the policy says owners ‸ of nonprofit corporations and less a substantial portion of the property is used for commercial purposes and a subject to have a loan taxation or unless the nonprofit corporation properties of historic or cultural significance in the city of Cocoa and owners of vacant

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be

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like

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and

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know

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the pink elephant, but the white

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elephant.

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provider and ‸ It still could be that

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commercial and I

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that's the reason why I asked if it's the owner of the building

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and then we were here from agency number of weeks

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It says unless ‸ substantial portion of the property is used for commercial

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yeah there has to be some sort of. well that's ‸ different story so I mean that's the current policy so you know, there could be a stipulation that's imposed that in the event it is flipped in the circumstance to a nonprofit that would not be qualified.

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then there's

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a claw back provision and I believe we have a claw back provision built in a general provision I'm not we can go back and look and see if it's more specific to this nonprofit issue but

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yeah it's

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different Well, that's the thing. You have to monitor the agreement.

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right

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okay

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good sir I'm good if you are yes sir uh

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and then just gonna ‸ call ‸ a question.

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I just wanted to say if uh owner gets a grant and improves the facade of the building whether it's and if there is a provision

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or

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how many years it is

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and then if they sell the building to somebody else or whatever uh that is their prerogative as the owner

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of the

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building now if

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a stipulation but I to me it's

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all the way around ‸ when people walk by so why grumble over what is going on I mean down the road you cannot predict what every building is eventually going to be that's right that's

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okay

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all right thank you now we have a motion on the floor in a

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member X is that correct?

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yes

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call the question all in favor. saying aye

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aye

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aye

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any nays aye aye seven unanimous Congratulations. Let's move forward. Thank you very much. okay

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slips that are there. Once the park has been enhanced, I would like to request to the CRA, and we will go through proper protocol, to name

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Because he's been instrumental with fine inland navigation. He's been very instrumental with the overall development with the downtown area, but more so than anything else with the great city of Cocoa. Duly noted.

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Absolutely. And

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I'm asking you all to deeply, but I request you consider that. I would love for that to take place. Now I surrender the floor back to you, Mrs. Newman.

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Thank you.

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So as I noted, the ‸ open house is ‸ September 26 from 11 a.m.

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It is truly an open house that will have the inspire place making staff that will be present to talk to you about the CRA plan update and to get your ideas. This is our website that is now being pushed live that will have the whole timeline as agency member costs

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noted. ‸ We do have

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placemakers

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in for different activities that are going to happen. So you will be able to be a part of that process in the website, which we will send you all a link. There is a survey. You will take the survey, which will give us some ideas of what you would like to do. So this will be an interactive survey that will help them create the boards and bring the boards into

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for discussion. We're doing that not only here in

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but also in Diamond Square C.R.A. So they will also have their own website, which you will. We will. You will all see that website. So we will share that with everyone. So we'll make sure that we provide you with all of those information through email. So look for your email and please take the survey that is on the email with the link to the website so that you can get this process started for us and help us move forward. I need to know by Tuesday, October 1st, if you are not able to attend the

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that is the deadline. Anytime after that, we lose all of our money and we don't want to lose any of our money.

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if you would like to attend, we can still register you for the conference.

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What is it?

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‸ The Florida Redevelopment Association Conference. I will speak to you offline about it ‸ since we're running close on time with the council meeting and I have a half a dozen directors sitting out here looking at me telling me to move along a little bit faster. So we're going to move forward. Lee Winter Park parking lot. You obviously know the signs are up.

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that's

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closed for renovation. I will bring you updates on a monthly basis to let you know what the progress progress is there.

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So we are working on, we ‸ have been pushing out press releases and stuff about the closing, making sure that people are aware. We also included a link on there with a map that shows all the other parking lots. But to add to that visibility of the other parking areas, we are doing a video specific to this project that are going to highlight all of the other available parking areas in the village. And really pushing and promoting that no matter where you park in the village, you're just a short five, three to five minute walk to wherever you need to go.

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that should be completed and out in the next two weeks.

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Fantastic. Knowledge is power.

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I have no other reports, sir.

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Okay, seeing all the reports. Thank you all for a productive as Councilman going says robust meeting here. Our next meeting. Yes, sir. The next meeting

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special meeting September the

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Chair is going to call the question all in favor and be saying aye. Aye. Aye. Aye's added unanimously. Go in peace. Thank

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you.

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Great meeting everyone.

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Cocoa Community Redevelopment Agency Special Meeting

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