A lot of respect for those who have given their
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Thank you. Eternal God, once again, we come before you tonight. We're thankful for the many blessings bestowed upon us. We ask that you lead us and guide us throughout our evening. We ask for special prayers for those that are in need. Those that are here tonight, we pray that all is well. We ask a special blessing for the citizens of this community that we serve. We pray for those that are in leadership positions to lead without disturbance. We pray that all things done here tonight be done according to your will and to your pleasure. We ask that you help keep us within the acceptable boundaries of all mankind. These and all
other
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blessings we ask in thy name. Amen. Amen.
Face the flag. I pledge allegiance
to the flag
of the United States of America, and to the republic for which
it stands,
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one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
All
right.
Mayor Parrish? Here. Deputy Mayor Blanco? Here.
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Councilwoman
Warner? Here. Councilman Whipple? Here.
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Here.
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Thank you. I make a motion we approve the agenda for the regular meeting of September 11, 2018, as presented or with amendments. I also make a motion that we approve the minutes of the regular meeting of July 10, 2018, as written or with amendments.
I'll second now. Okay. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
Aye.
All
right.
Okay. So,
let's
start off with ‸ delegations. Reverend Dennis?
Good evening, everyone. My name is Reverend Johnny Dennis,
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The National Action Network is a chartered and nationwide organization. There was some questions raised about why I do this or why I do that. Under the First Amendment of the Constitution, all U.S. citizens have the right to protest. They have the right to freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and the freedom to redress any issue anywhere. We got a call eight weeks ago where there was a vigilante over in
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That sheriff had told my leader to shed his mouth and go back to New York. When he come back, he come back with a federal marshal and the Justice Department, and we got an arrest. Okay. Another thing. Kneeling. About profiling, kneeling about any situation.
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a 1943 Supreme Court law that says anyone can kneel to protest anything they want to in America.
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debatable. And for ‸ our safety concerns, we as a representative of the National Action Network, we represent every race, creed, and color. On July the 30th, I was subpoenaed to trial in a dependency case for a female who was white. At my church, I had a lady come in there and
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live profanity, ‸ threatened somebody in my church.
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her. Then I counseled her after it cooled off. She come back in there again, threatened people. This time, I took her to court on March the 22nd throughout the church and off the property because the third time, she might come back with a weapon and kill everybody in the church. So we stand for safety of everybody, ‸ no matter what race be the color. And I'd personally like to thank our city manager for the hard
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review board, and I'll be looking forward to when we get it set up and going.
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Thank you. Lawrence Sinclair.
Good evening. Lawrence Sinclair, [address], Cocoa, Florida.
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and Tabitha Moore will be moving into it once we get a new roof put on
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Thank you. Thank you. Alex Greenwood.
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How
y'all
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doing? Thank you. Very quick, I'm just bringing to your attention on a couple of things that I consider very important. The canoe that was discovered in our water. I understand it's being removed and taken, I think, to Tallahassee. I'm wanting to know if that's true or not. And the reason why I'm bringing it up is because
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hope, temporary. Because ‸ there was ‸ something that a lot of the public was very supportive of for what was discovered that was back in
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How does the council feel about that? I mean, ‸ would you be more comfortable knowing that it stays in Cocoa?
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Alex, they found
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pond within a mile. Then it was moved.
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it, who made it. And during that process, I still don't know if it's an Indian canoe or a European dugout canoe from shipwreck people. But at the end of the day, the new city hall at Cape Canaveral, I guess they requested to display it temporarily whenever it gets released. And I heard it's going to get released pretty soon, so it's going to be on temporary display.
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‸ I strongly support that.
it
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was
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That's the truth. I didn't know that. I thought. Well,
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Well, that is temporary.
I
know that. You just explained it. I was hoping that we could be. ‸ I
think long term we'll get it. I do.
I hope so.
Yeah.
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We'll probably be where it. I
hope so. Yeah. But I have another idea that's even better than that, but not now.
Unfortunately, we don't get. Let me tell you your idea
is to have a big museum downtown. That's what I thought.
Almost like the museum.
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I will move on to the next thing. Has any, this may be for the city manager,
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meeting that
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either renting one of the storefronts, something that's very inexpensive, some kind of location. And I also feel that it would be great to have them on bicycles like we used to have. At least they're there, they're visible, and they're not as threatening as being in the cars. We had them for a while in Cocoa Village.
‸ Short answer, no, because it's a component of the redevelopment agency redevelopment plan, community policing. So it would be, they would have to prioritize that related to once they, once the plan is adopted, and that would fall within the
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So I need to present it to
them.
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All right. It was brought up, but it was already in the plan.
‸ Okay.
As a possibility, there was not a time horizon attached to it, but
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‸ Okay, I only have two
other things. Sorry, I'm rushing it. Has the architect been chosen for the contest that was created
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And is there a date that you all are familiar with getting it presented, the follow-up from the architect and the information of the items that was presented for the contest?
Okay. It's my understanding. The architect, it's actually,
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on retainer or one of our continuing services providers with the city, and they are working on, based on, again, this is, ‸ you're actually asking, it's a CRA item? Yes. So the CRA board provided direction in terms of what elements to include, and then the architect's working on developing that. You
would ask
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me to ask you ‸ about the date. Yeah, I don't have the date.
No date yet?
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I don't know. We've reached out, and
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I have not received an answer yet.
All right. Well, the last thing, I need to bring it to everybody's attention. I had no idea how many people religiously watch these recordings of the meetings, not just of the council, but of a lot of the boards. And it was repeated to me on numerous occasions that even by using headphones, they cannot, the volume, they cannot really hear clearly what people are saying. And I think that's something
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a technical thing.
We're aware of it. Oh, you are?
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in YouTube. It's, we're trying to figure out what the issue is. Okay.
I'm trying to rush it. Thank you. Everybody.
Thank you. ‸ Hey, on the crime situation. It's, it's becoming off the chain again down here. I mean, we've had a couple of, at my house, and we stole a bike there at night, and then a lot of things downtown at night, a lot of complaints.
We really need, even if we don't have a substation, I don't like any cars taking
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like some of the police department vehicles are there, which was something to do. Maybe we can put them in the Bank of America or something that the public doesn't normally park at. Right. But we really need, we used to have two police officers on bicycles there, and everybody loved seeing that because they were there and they're not as intimidating.
Yeah.
Yeah. And
just to let you know for the record, I looked at the, uh, the sheriff's department's, um, arrest.
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It's all in the county. So they've got a serious crime plan. Well, I remember a long time
ago, Friday night, got that corrected. That's right. And it, and they walked away from it. Now we need to correct it again
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for policing in the county. I mean, honestly, and
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Coco,
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Well,
we got it fixed once before.
Yeah, we sure did. That's right. And we
need to fix it again.
Yeah, we need to fix it again.
Now,
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It's a process. Thank you. That's good. Very good. Okay. Okay. That's it for that. So we're going to go to consent.
Okay. I'll make a motion. We approve the consent agenda. Second.
Okay. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Public hearing? Super attorney?
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No,
I just wanted to point out. We found an error on the consent agenda just now under Norris Park's renewal of his reappointment.
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That's an error. It's actually September 30th, 2020. I just wanted to point that out.
And it's in the body of the agenda actually too.
And he's here.
Number
four.
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Okay.
Thank
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Okay.
Thank
you. Okay. The only public hearing item tonight is
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an ordinance of the city council of the city of Cocoa, Brevard County, Florida. Amending chapter two, administration article seven, police officers retirement plan of the code of ordinances of the city of Cocoa by amending section 2-191 definitions. Amending section 2-220 share plan, providing for codification, providing for severability of provisions, repealing all ordinances in conflict therewith, and providing an effective date. As I noted, this is ‸ second and final reading of this ordinance. There haven't been any changes since first. It's a public hearing item. Mayor.
Okay. Good.
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Bring it up to the public.
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Mr. Mayor,
I
just wanted to add, since the agenda was published earlier or late last week, the pension actuary provided the impact statement to this, and we updated it to the agenda item online by Carrie, and ‸ we have it in front of us now. ‸ This change, according to the pension actuary, will
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If you recall, we mentioned it was about $52,000 annually. Right.
Okay.
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And
there were other changes done to the pension plan recently that, changes that they did that changed the assumptions, which overall changed. Yeah. Anyway.
Very good. Appreciate it.
Thank
you. Anybody like to speak on this ordinance? Okay. Close it to the public. Bring it back to council. Good.
Motion to approve.
Second.
Second on the air. All in favor? Aye. Aye.
Any opposed?
Very
good. Positive changes. Thank
you.
I have one card on this one. Chief. Candler.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I ask the council to approve the current code enforcement lien for the property located at 2228 Salem Drive. It will
be
reduced from $34,250 to $3,000. The
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Recommended that the lien be reduced to $3,000. Staff is in agreement with our recommendation and is recommending to council that the lien be reduced to $3,000.
Okay, I have a card on this one. Lawrence, you want to speak?
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here?
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Is the owner here
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this property?
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Lawrence,
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1052 Metro Street. This goes back to the same thing as last council. I took the time to actually pull up everything and speak to code.
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companies that come in here and buy up properties. This is a rental property that this company was taking in monthly income from, and yet they took from August of 2017 to May of 2018 to come into compliance. In discussions with city staff and people involved with code,
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have to understand something. The lien's not. The lien's only enforced after the property owner's been given ample time to come into compliance and get the property into compliance, and when they refuse to do so, you're talking about, what, 60, 90 days before, you know, a lien's even, an order for liens even imposed. I don't understand how
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I don't see the actual names of the managers here, they're justifying their lien request because they say they've invested $43,000 into this property. Well, I'm sure they have because they're fixing to sell it for $200,000.
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the city look at this crap for years and then just turn around and say it's okay? I understand it says staff
recommended.
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Staff's going to recommend anything that they feel that they can get, but I think if you actually sat down and talked to staff,
I
think they would also tell you that this has got to stop. People keep doing this in the city of Cocoa because we keep letting them get away with it. $34,000 in fines? I strongly urge you to charge them at least $10,000 on those liens because if you don't send the message, it just keeps going. ‸ Why should that neighborhood and those neighbors and those adjoining property owners have to put up and live with that for a year before they came into compliance on an investment property that's already putting money in their pocket?
Okay, thanks. Anybody want to say anything?
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property owner was not the owner at the time the violations occurred, ‸ but Mr. Sinclair is saying that it took them nine months to come into compliance?
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still under the previous property owner in August? Do we know when they bought it and how long they had it before they brought it into compliance?
No, not exactly. I don't have it on here.
‸ Let's see if I can find out real quick.
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know, 90 days or so from the time they purchased the property.
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if that's the case with this one, if they didn't own it when the fines started in August...
I don't believe that they did actually own the property. Yeah. In the same time.
Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, I said ‸ whether the current owner owned the property at the time the violation occurred. It says no.
It
says no.
No. So, ‸ yeah, no, it wouldn't have. Did we check that before?
Well, I've noticed that when ‸ the property is still owned by the same people that were the owners when ‸ the lien started, the code board is a lot less inclined to reduce the lien.
That's true.
So, that's... I mean, they're usually a little more lenient when somebody buys the property and cleans it up as long as they clean it up within a reasonable amount of time. I just didn't see anything on here that told me when these people ‸ actually bought the property.
Two seconds. I think the date that's in the council or in the agenda item
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It was a quick claim deed for the property.
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The
liens ran from August 20th of 2017 until May 21st of 2018.
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I'm looking at the
clerk of
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courts. There's a deed that was recorded on
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Okay.
Well, that answers
that
question.
So, they did own it in August. So, do we know that this information is correct in these $125 per day liens started on August 20th, 2017? That is not a typo?
As far as I know, yes. I don't have the other.
Okay. Well, then here's what I would like to do.
The
application.
Because if this is the owner who owned the property when these violations started and we started finding them, then,
no,
they don't deserve that kind of a lien reduction.
According to the application, which is filled up by the applicant, the lien,
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which would have been after they...
After they...
And it
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That's the applicant's statement.
Oh,
so that's a typo, then. Yeah, because this says, is the current owner of
the property at the time of the violation...
On page 2 and 6 of the
application, ‸ section 5.
But if you look at the first page, which is the code enforcement staff report, it says, no, they were not the owner. Yeah, that must have been a typo.
That's an error. That's an error on ours. Based on the applicant's own admission in their application.
‸ Well, I'm wondering if the code enforcement board made their recommendation based on this being, no, they were not the owners at the time, or if they noticed. So I'm not comfortable moving this item forward. I'd like to table it to the next meeting and find out if the code ‸ enforcement board was aware that these people were the owners of the property when the violations occurred.
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Okay, that's a motion.
Okay, all in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay.
You buy a piece of property and you clean it up, I don't have any problem reducing your violations, but if you're an investment property owner and you let that happen and you let liens go to $34,000, Mr.
Sinclair is
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correct, you don't deserve a...
‸ And in fact, it looked like they
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Yeah,
then they created that problem.
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can pay for it.
Okay. Tammy?
Yes. This is to consider the appointment of Mr. David Prather as a regular member of the Utilities Advisory Board
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the audience today. I think we could do a motion to approve that. I'll
second
that.
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
Thank you. All right, David. Thank you. It'd be great to have your expertise on that board. Yeah. Thank you. Yep.
All right. Mr. City Manager? Yes.
Mr.
Mayor, members, ‸ council. As you will recall,
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the top issues,
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the top issue identified was crime. As one of the strategic issues, one of the objectives was to create a community relations council.
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issued their report
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and presented before the council at a public workshop in June of 18, with a recommendation that a formal advisory group be established, the group being comprised of community stakeholders, such as local clergy, business leaders, school administrators, community advocates, and
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review
or revise
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departmental policy, procedures, or tactics.
But
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they did say provide, alternatively, a more formal citizen advisory committee, again, advisory, that the council ‸ carefully consider the scope and the authority. Provided in the agenda item, there's multiple sources out there, but generally speaking, there's four types or models of citizen review ‸ of police departments, of which there's variations within each type, from a ‸ more... an outright citizen review board that has very vast powers, the citizen review, or police review, citizen oversight, police review, citizen appeal, and then independent citizen auditor.
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of 1990. There was a couple changes throughout the years, and then in 1997, by resolution, they abolished the police community relations advisory board. I think we all agree policing in this day and age has changed since 1997, with more heightened scrutiny with officers and some of the issues that are prevalent in many other communities.
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21st Century Policing, it identified, and actually they were discussed, during the best practices of recommendation and how policing practices can promote effective crime reduction while building public trust. And these were, I would say these were, to some degree, a large discussion and a component of the mayor's 2014 and 2016 crime summits. There was a discussion on various best practices and recommendations. You know,
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would certainly provide a positive opportunity to engage citizens in identifying and addressing community needs, and police community relations, as well as programs and initiatives to reduce crime. It would provide a forum for citizens to address the police chief or department leadership on community concerns or individual complaints, promote transparency regarding police conduct in terms of ensuring internal investigation report findings are presented publicly.
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if there's the timing,
if
there's lawsuits or legal claims. So, with regard to that scope of that advisory board, if you were to go down the route,
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what I'm recommending is you reconstitute the previous board, and that you, but
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and regulations, as recommended by CPSM, but in the interest of transparency and accountability and enhancing the public trust and confidence in the police department, and I can tell you after having exhaustively reviewed several recent complaints, and have essentially, you know, I think if ‸ maybe ‸ possibly the reports were presented at a public board, and the citizens of the place to go, they would see that accountability and transparency is woven throughout the department. The department's an accredited agency. The ‸ commission for ‸ law enforcement accreditation reviews the department's policies, procedures, regulations, every three years. ‸ We've been accredited since June 7, 2006, And that accreditation really speaks to the intent and the desire for the department to operate at the highest standards of professionalism. So my recommendation is that the review, if you're in the interest of transparency, and as it relates to enhancing the public trust,
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‸ be authorized to review policy, procedures, rules, regulations, and general and special orders pertaining only to the use of force and police conduct towards citizens. And if warranted, then that board would issue a written recommendation to the chief, city manager, or city council, if warranted. So you'd narrow the scope. That's the issue that many are concerned about. But what they would not be doing is, you know, and I know there's been recommendations to have subpoena powers, to interview and investigate officers. It just, that's highly, I don't think it's necessary.
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Yes, it's not legal.
There is some, I know Sheriff Deming certainly took it to the District Court of Appeals, and they determined that the county charter didn't, you know, trump, you know, because you have the law enforcement officer's bill of rights, which provides, you know, certain protections and due process for the officers,
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you know. It's not like, so they get certain protections, just like any
citizens
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that might be arrested or, so there's protections involved there. So, so that's why I would say that you limit it just to the policy, and then for, in terms of ‸ promoting that citizen review and that transparency regarding police conduct,
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should be tasked with review of closed, and I emphasize closed, department ‸ internal investigation complaints filed against police officers, only where, you know, where it involves, you know, alleged use of, you know, deadly force and proper force or in an instance where a police action resulted in the death of bodily injury. And again, the timing of that review would have to take into account any lawsuit or legal claims pending against the city or
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rights. I also think it would be, because, you know, I don't think this is a single, a single focused tool. The idea is, when we talked about it in the strategic planning process, is that it would also be, even the CPSM study, it would be an opportunity for the chief
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you know, to enhance. And, and, and,
and
I think if you, if you read the 2017 annual report, and you saw how many opportunities that, you know, with
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the number of neighborhood count, you know, meetings that they attend, the special events, very active, one of the most active community policing units, I believe, that currently exists in the county. And I think, uh, it would be an opportunity for the chief to, uh, bring, be empowered to bring and present before the board any police community relation issues or community needs and seek input as he may deem necessary. Um, and, and in the same vein, it provides an open forum or, uh, for the members of the public to raise any comments or concerns. So, in terms of the board composition, I would recommend seven members. You know, I, I, I think you,
you,
the city,
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each,
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the city manager responsible for ‸ administrative operations, responsibility for the city,
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And consistent with those guidelines,
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as identified, you know, earlier. Uh, so, essentially, I mean, that's my recommendation. You know, I mean, I've done a lot of research of late in terms of responding to petitions and or, you know, allegations of, um, of misconduct,
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alleged. And I, I don't think there's a pressing problem. But, you know, we did commit
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know, advisory board. And with the limited scope, I think it would, you know, um, it's not meant to be a scepter to hang over the officer's head or
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police department, because I think they do a good job. And I think
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be a tool for the community and for the police department and the police chief in engaging the community further. So, we're essentially, you know, asking for direction, both myself and the city attorney, in terms of,
uh,
as well as the city, the police chief, on what direction you want to go
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Um, so we do not have an ordinance in mind yet. We're going to write an ordinance from scratch. Correct. Okay. Based on the council's recommendations. Then I would like to suggest a couple things. One, I ‸ only know of one board in this county that, that seems to actually function as it should and, and actually benefit the community and that's the one they have in Melbourne. I'd like to see a copy of their ordinance. I would also like to see a copy of the ordinance that the city used in 1990 to establish our original board.
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Um, ‸ having chaired the board that was disbanded in 1997,
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I sat on it for at least a year, I think, prior to that, I think I have a pretty good understanding of what the issues can be. So I have no problem following the city manager's recommendation,
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at and, and, um, look for,
um,
issues in and maybe have an open discussion on.
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problem previously with the board and the reason it was disbanded was because people were appointed to the board who did not understand what the role of the board was. So if we as council members are going to appoint members of the board, we need to make sure we have a discussion, make sure they get a copy of the ordinance and that they understand what their role is before we appoint them to the board. So I have no objection with moving forward on the city manager's recommendation, but those are just some things I'd like to see before we do. Okay.
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put some of the issues that confronts us today in regards to our community relations, uh, with the police department. I think we need to go forward as soon as possible to establish the criteria to establish this board. Uh,
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And I don't think there's a doubt with any of the council members that this type of board is actually needed. From this CPSM report, there's, uh, ‸ lots of information in here in regards to how our police department functions. There's some great information in here as to how we could be more efficient. And just to name a couple,
um,
our peak times for response to our community from our police department, they are highly taxed in certain times of
the
day, weekends, et cetera. And all of that information is here.
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would change for our staff, that we could become more efficient at the peak times and hours that we, uh,
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with the number of staff that we need. And I haven't heard anyone come forward with any of those, uh, suggestions as to whether or not
we want
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to even entertain a change of
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to have this information so they can understand how the police department operates and some of the things that has caused us the problems that we have been confronted with, with public relations of our officers.
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but there are many things that ‸ we need to address internally to become more efficient now. That's it, Mr. Mayor.
Thank you.
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And I would like to suggest that we expand that to, uh, one of the groups in communities such as NAACP and let them make a ‸ recommendation as well. So, that's something I think we should take into consideration.
Maybe we, as council members, could reach out to some of these organizations and churches to look for. Absolutely. Because if, if this board operates like the rest of our boards where, you know, you can't serve on two boards, so the people that we already have serving are already, you know. Well,
but if we reach out to, like, an organization such as the NAACP and then, you know, ask them if they can make a recommendation as well. Some, one of their members. Right.
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One of the community leaders that, uh, that, you know, they value. So, yeah. That's just a recommendation. I
don't have any objection to, you know, reaching out into the community and talking to some of our ministers or whoever to look for. Okay. The person that I appoint
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of anybody that I would appoint necessarily out of my district, you know. Right. Exactly.
One other thing I want to mention, Mr. Merritt, we need to take a look at the time that's involved in this because we've been wrestling with this for quite some time now as to what we're going to do.
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Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
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for ourselves to establish this functioning board?
Well, I think what we've asked for, they could probably bring back to us an ordinance and some stuff to look at probably by our next council meeting, Mr. City Manager.
Uh, I would be cautious to say that maybe the one after that.
The
reason why I say that is we have a bond closing still. Okay. We also have,
uh,
on the end, there's also the CRA plan. And ‸ I know the budget is going to be this ‸ week, but I think the next meeting, ‸ the ordinance would have to be complete by the end of this week.
So there's, but there's not any reason why we can't get this board established like sometime in the month of October. I
think so. And I think previously, and the attorney can correct me, but I know some of the ones we've done are by resolution, which would only require one, you know, reading.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, let's expedite it. That's what I'm thinking.
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We
need to get it. Okay. We
need to move forward with it.
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policing, which we've done. I know there's a lot of people who think this process is slow. It is. But let me give you a little historical, uh, background here. On the crime summit of 2014 and 2016, we talked about a community or citizen review board. Uh,
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time. And, uh, uh, I'd like you to bring back the Melbourne's, um, ordinance of all the people I've talked to. That seems to be the one that works. Like Brenda said, it's true.
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a little bit frustrated after these crime summits, the first one. And we were the first community to adopt and buy. It was a lot of money. Body cams. Okay. So what we're talking about is, is fair treatment for our citizens and our visitors in our city and
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Uh,
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But everything that's happened in the last six years has kind of narrowed things down. I certainly deal with a lot less, uh, police issues or, you know, out there. But the body cams, uh,
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It was, it was us.
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ensure that
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treated fairly. And we had a lot of shenanigans up until that point for decades, folks. And the body cams certainly made honest people honest. Okay. So I want to make, I want
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to bring back. Let's look at it in depth. So we can start moving on this. Uh, and we'll get a community or citizen review board in place. ‸ This isn't rocket science, but Brenda's right. In the past, I do remember maybe Clarence or John on the old review boards. It got way out of whack because people did not know the rules and ended up walking there like you're the dictator and you're trying to get somebody fired who you don't like.
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And truthfully,
the,
you know, police department has its code of ethics and the code it lives by and it's backed up through the, uh,
in the system. But
certainly this should narrow any problems we've had for years and years on and off and not so much lately. Uh, it's a shenanigans. Wherever it comes from, it should get exposed. But let's definitely start with the Melbourne, um, ordinance, um, if it looks palatable, I say, like Clarence said, let's get something passed, ‸ get it moving and do it right.
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was a lot of stuff on both sides there that, you know, keeps people honest everywhere. Nobody, there's no human in this world that's, that's, uh, honest 100% of the time, believe it or not. Things happen, you lose your temper or whatever. But we want to be the best city with the best police department.
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And I believe ‸ we'll have that once we institute this.
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body cameras has proven an effective tool for addressing, you know, looking at officer conduct. But also looking at the incident in totality and in many times clearing and having a record of what occurred. And it's been a useful tool. But I think one of the things that the, you know, one of
the
things I, in the aftermath of doing some of this most recent research that I know you all have received the
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meaning the general public, maybe the complainant receives it, but then they don't share. They share their side of the story, not the full story. Absent having that, rumors and perceptions continue to exist. Right.
So
if like, you know, if
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out there.
Yeah.
Rather than people to just suggest and perpetuate misinformation and, you know, things that are not factual. So I think that's where it could serve as a vital tool to help, you know, one of the goals is to continue to build. I mean, I think ‸ when you look at some
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communities, we have really good relations. Our police officers do an amazing job.
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And I think this will only enhance and strengthen that.
The citizens, the residents have to believe in it as much as we do up here or it's not going to work. And I think this is just another tool that's going to get us here.
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probably is going to do everything we can do possible in this life. Okay. So.
I'd like to make a motion that we follow the city manager's recommendation.
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All in favor.
Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay.
Oh, man, I forgot.
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All right. You know what? Nothing personal.
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with that CSM report. And I didn't because I knew I'd probably be escorted out of here. I hear everybody talking about what we need.
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Why don't we tell the people that are saying that we need to fire this officer, this officer, this officer, to take their behinds out in the street and tell their friends to start admitting and cooperating and
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2016 and
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Mr. Whipple, nothing personal. I don't see the urgency in this other than politically motivated. I do believe that Coco PD should always be held accountable and every officer that's employed with it accountable. And it can be done. But this politicizing this at this moment in time pisses me off. Henry, I've known you. I've respected you.
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had sitting up on that in front of those tables.
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that justified the burglaries and the thefts in the neighborhoods because they needed to put food on the table because they didn't have jobs or they had drug problems. You know, why don't we address the actual crime problem right now? Everybody's saying it's the lowest level in 20 years. Have you been on Peachtree Street lately? How about Peachtree and Prospect or anywhere in the neighborhood? I heard you just say you've got an uptick in thefts overnight. Believe me, every street over there between 520
and... I just drove and sat for a second right in front of your political signs of that
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two hookers and a pimp sitting there. Yeah. So you're absolutely right. You need to jump on it, man.
Exactly. But we can't jump on it if we're... Look, I don't have a problem, and I've said this before. I think Chief Cantaloupe and his officers, from my experience, and this is just my personal experience, okay?
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I've called him on many occasions when residents in my neighborhood picked up the phone. I've
said, hey,
Larry, this officer did this. I'm real quick. Same thing happened to
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you respond to it. You get the answers out there. You deal with it right then and there. I don't see this urgency to where you say you need it done right away, other than politically.
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Excuse me, sir. You will not.
Hey.
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Larry,
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We don't need to know.
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sit down, please. Hey, hey, hey.
Alex. ‸ Maybe we disagree with others, but
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No,
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go ahead. There, there. Okay, good.
Chief. Chief. Chief.
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to make things go better. Okay, so we're not blaming anybody for anything. All right, so we're gonna we're gonna move forward off this. um
‸ You missed delegations. Yes.
i'm sorry i
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missed it sorry. about it Okay, so let's go to the uh let's go to The next issue next
item.
item uh Yes,
sir. that's me Okay. um Thank
you, everybody. This
is um the first item under City Business, i'm requesting settlement authority for the tentative settlement agreement between former City of
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Fire Lieutenant Omar Shear
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the City of
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authorizing the payment of the workers compensation settlement, and requesting approval for additional settlement authority for former Fire Lieutenant Timothy
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and to authorize the city manager to finalize and execute such legal agreements required to complete the settlement in accordance with the settlement authority approved by City Council. ‸ And
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through the use of the use of general fund reserves to cover any settlement agreements. And I
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number two, to approve the three-year contract
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Firefighters for the contract term of October
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2018 through September
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2021. um And they are members of the fire department and
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as well as you can see. So. um We've been negotiating, um
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are open. So um this is the first of the the first three-year contract that we were able to um get to y'all for ratification. So we're very proud of that.
I think that you should be proud of that. This is the first time that the firefighters have ever come in first in contract negotiation yeah
I would like to add that you know Rusty and I were speaking the other night. This is the second time that there has been a contract in place prior to the existing contract expiring as long as he's worked here.
Whoa. So
we we certainly appreciate negotiating team both sides, operate in good faith, you know, and negotiating. And we thank them for their professionalism.
service
absolutely
And there's a lot of hard work. and It's yeah angst. Like,
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‸ It's
quite a different than of old. Yeah. For sure. And we appreciate you all
yeah
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Get this. Yes. It
shows You do a great job. And
thanks to the staff who worked on the staff side to get this negotiated. So I guess since um just like sets a record or something ‸ that we should make a motion to approve it.
I think so. Okay. Motion
to approve.
Second. Second down here. All in favor. Aye. Any opposed. Thank
you guys. Thank you. I go talk to the rest of the unions and see if you can motivate
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you can get the rest of them motivated so we can get this over.
‸ Thanks for everything. Good. Okay. um The old days that would have been the problem. Yeah. ‸ Thanks guys.
Yeah. Thank you guys.
All right. um
Mr. Mayor.
Yes.
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Yes sir.
I'd just like uh ‸ take a second ‸ recognize the firefighters that are in the audience. Because
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also next to him is Pat Madden who's the secretary. He's one of our drivers. Behind him is first. so He's over there signing. ‸ First Vice President Brian Ackerman. And then uh there was another member Chuck Burkhardt who isn't here tonight. But he was an important part of that team. And they were very professional throughout the negotiations. Which always helps move things along. And then final gentleman there on uh the left is
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our newest member of
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And that's Chris Womack.
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thanks guys
Thank you. And thank you to the fire chief as well. He he was really great. um you know, working to collaborate um with on both sides to come to an agreement on all of our issues that we discussed. It was really great. He
he is sort of a common spirit there, so that helps. Well,
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Yes, it does. yeah
Thank you, chief.
Thank you, chief.
It's not your first rodeo.
No.
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approved participation in a cooperative purchase agreement with HydroMax USA to provide hydrant and valve assessment and
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November
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2018, pending approval of the fiscal year 2019 budget
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fiscal year 2019 budget.
motion to
approve
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the last item approve the sixth amendment to purchase agreement to the water resource consulting service agreement with water resource associates inc wra tampa florida effective september 30th 2018
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All ‸ favor? ‸ aye any opposed
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hey rusty We should get a picture
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him or call ‸ okay uh Anybody in the audience from the advisory board or a committee they would like to speak?
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thank you
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Firefighters Pension Board, i'm I was just to comment to this gentleman. I'm very proud of them to be able to come in so professionally and negotiate with y'all It had some changes in the ordinance, and of course that affects our board, but it really didn't affect any financial aspects of it. uh Just some of the things that are going on right now. We did receive ‸ a letter from the state, which Mr. pen which has advised you about um them asking us to reduce our percentage. And when we are working with our actuary at this time to do such just to see what type of cost effect we may have to maybe save some money for the city. So
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our our shakes participants that uh that are um uh having uh working comp issues. And i as I just saw a couple of them there, one of those was 10 years ago still on the agenda here. So I don't know what, you know, we didn't have anything to do with that, of course. But, of course, that gentleman's been and retired for at least eight to ten years. So, yeah.
But
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there anymore, but uh Mrs. howell and her staff and all those, they keep everything uh above board with us. And they keep us as advice of what's going on and anything coming from the state. ‸ of course, you got the letter from the state for the money. that state seems to be holding our money a little bit longer each year, and a little bit longer and a little bit longer. But we still finally eventually get that money. So I'm glad to say that we're we seem to be in compliance there as well. um we We are
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But I have had other individuals ask me, uh
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why aren't we able to see the Firefighters Pension
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I put up on the uh onto the website like you do for the council meetings as well.
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25 years, that might be it. so
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Yes.
Yeah. let's get Let's get a picture real quick before we go in the staff.
Okay. Brenda? yes ‸ I get a picture
of his
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I
can
take it.
Sure.
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All right, so we're going to
go
to reports. Tony, what
do
you got?
Nothing,
Mr.
Mayor.
Question for you.
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that? What do you see? Anything?
Definitely very few maintenance issues. They've been running great. No demonstrative issues whatsoever. They're starting to cycle through for the first time for their first PMs.
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the next two years. So the maintenance on those trucks will be basically next to nothing.
That's what I wanted to hear. That's great.
No report.
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Thank you.
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I'd just like to take a second to recognize the team that we had for negotiation, which
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We started out
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And then Rebecca come in there toward the end. And then Tammy does the line share work when it comes to paperwork and putting those contracts together and getting them out for not just the firefighters, but the other four that are being negotiated at
the
same time. So it's important to have a good team. And as you can see, it works well. ‸ Thank you.
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Cocoa High School. Come out and help us ‸ go through memories of those who perished, both the citizens and ‸ firefighters and police officers. So thank you.
Thank you. All right. Chair?
Nothing to report.
Nothing to report.
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Congratulations on Tom Brady and the team winning this weekend.
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Assistant city manager Matt.
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Provide a quick update on ‸ the progress down there at the waterfront. If you've been down there recently, you may notice that the riverfront connector is almost complete. It will be complete by the end of the month. They're also reconstructing those finger piers at the boat ramp. They're maintaining one open while they reconstruct the rest. That should be complete by the end of the month, as well as the security cameras. And then just kicking off the shoreline restoration. There'll be some pretty heavy equipment moving around down in the park in the next few weeks to restore that shoreline as it once was with an enhanced level of, I guess you could say, stone.
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there at the dot pond. The pond there along State Road 520 where the relief is, there's an active permit over that for the mangrove trimming. The former group that came in there and did that failed to cut out any of the invasives, which makes up the lion's share of that northwest corner. So you probably see some pretty significant removal there. And that'll be complete by the end of this month. So that's all I have.
Anything on the boat removal?
I believe Brevard County is in the process of submitting for the FWC grant for the vessel removal. Those, it's my understanding those two vessels down there have been cleared in the court process for removal. It's, it's the lack of funding that's available to have them removed.
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All right. Mr. St. Andrew.
I've had Mr.
St. Andrew.
Number one, remind everybody this Thursday, hearing this council chamber is at 530.
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be September 13th is the second final budget
hearing.
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Number two, following that, on the 14th, I'll be over in Orlando,
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Three, Tuesday the 18th, there's a special COCO CRA meeting to, last night, the planning and zoning board reviewed and made its determination regarding the, finding the conformity with the conference, city's comprehensive plans,
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Number four, following up on a prior action, and the public workshop for
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ordinance related
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commercial mixed use large versus commercial mixed use medium, will be Wednesday, October 3rd, ‸ 6 PM at
the
Civic Center. The goal for staff is following that meeting, is to, because we have a meeting, the city's first regular,
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The goal is to incorporate any comments, potential changes, you know, that might result in terms of feedback and input from that meeting into the agenda item, and to, you know, and if necessary, modify the ordinance. I'd
like
to do it on October 10th. If not, it would be the following meeting. It's all subject to, you know, the comments that are received.
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workshop, and they actually will be in town here later this week to do some, on site and some pictures to develop models, to give context that, that the council heard from some members of the public.
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I
can come up with something else.
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My son's five for, for two more days. Budget hearing.
All right.
Sorry.
And that's this week, right?
Yes. Yes.
Yes. Good. Oh,
‸ we held the pre-pricing. That's what it was.
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with our, the underwriters, and, and, not tomorrow, but the day after. Oh, that's
right.
There will be, you know,
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and Matt and I will be watching it, you know, here locally, the, for the, putting the bond out on the market for a two hour period.
That's fascinating.
Actually, actually, it's pretty interesting. They open it up and they put it out there and then you start watching the call. People ‸ trying to, you
know, the
buying and,
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seeing which maturity is going first and, you know, what level, well, the latter years typically go first because they're 5% coupons. Right. You know, it's something,
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And
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of, you know, Matt and I have done it and some other staff in the past. So, it's very educational
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literally watching it mark the work.
Right. Sure is. Okay. Mr. Whipple.
Yes, Mr. Mayor, a couple of items. One, I need to
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manager.
Yes, it's anticipated to, as we're still under the assumption it's going to be done by the end of this fiscal year.
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That's the end of this month.
Okay. All right. Looking forward to that. I just want to say that Stone Street is really looking good. Sure is. They paved it and the stripes are down and
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It's
like
putting
a surface on it or something. I was over there yesterday.
Yes. And I was wondering, did you know anything about that, sir?
As far
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as I know, did they just resurfacing it with a black car?
Yeah, black car on it. Yeah.
I
drove
in there yesterday.
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It has some traffic issues early in the morning. So, Chief, you might want to take a look over there early in the morning for traffic control. Somebody's going to run into me while I try to get my coffee from there every morning. It was
pretty bad yesterday. It was bad.
It
was really bad.
Yeah.
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Yes, it is. It's very nice.
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Does anyone know what's happening across the street with the car? With the business? The Hess
station.
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Do you know anything about that?
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I can look at it.
Well, I told the
manager of Wawa it wouldn't be long before they leave.
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And Wawa's a much larger and offers many more alternatives, you know, for not just drinks and snacks, but they have, you know, food, food, a lot of things. It's foolish.
I would like to know so I can tell the people that asked me. They think I'm supposed to know everything about what's happening, but that I don't know.
Oh, shut down.
Yeah, it is shut down. That's everything, Mr. Mayor.
Okay.
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the Wawa opening. Remember the grand opening when it was either police or fire that had, they left the wax paper in between the main. Somebody got penalized a few sandwiches. It seems
like the firefighters won that, didn't they? Oh.
I thought they did. They still have the trophy.
Yeah, that's the...
That's because they have more practice.
Oh, man.
Oh,
there. I
understand the next round was donut making? Donut making. Yeah.
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They're called power rings.
That's pretty
good.
Power rings.
Power rings.
Yeah, power rings. That's right.
Speaking of donuts,
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The Dunkin... The substation that
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Oh. The donut shop. Is there any news on that? No.
No. No update?
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Update. ‸ Appreciate it. Okay. Yeah,
because code
enforcement is
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going
to
be going after that lot soon. Yes.
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Just a reminder for everybody that October 13th is going
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We had a meeting last evening. We're getting really, really great cooperation from Cocoa High. Their new athletic director is really enthusiastic about the event and the ability for the school to make some money off of this event as well, since we're allowing them to charge for parking and do the
vending
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of the food. So it'll be a fundraiser for the high school to put money towards their track and field.
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for all their contributions. To this point in time, it looks like we're up to around $15,000 raised so far in cash and in-kind contributions towards the event. So it looks like we're going to be able to make a success out of it.
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seem to be afraid to compete. And I don't understand why. I thought that the Sheriff's Department had like the best canine guys in the county, but they seem to be afraid to sign up for some reason or another. Everybody else in the county wants to compete, but the Sheriff's guys are just scared.
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scared.
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That's probably why we never see them.
Yeah,
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they're not signing up. So I would just like
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these guys out at the court.
Yeah, of course not.
Although we are making concessions so that the detection dogs can compete in the obstacle course and won't have to do any bite work. If he could pass it
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that they're afraid to compete with us. We're even asking our guys not to compete just so it'll be fair. So Officer De Los Santos and Kira are not going to compete.
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So
if you could just pass that along, Mrs.
Shealy,
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and anybody else who might run into the Sheriff that were really disappointed that he's not willing to come out and participate, we'd greatly appreciate it.
You can
call him if you'd like, Mr. Mayor.
Yeah, I might call him. Okay,
thank you.
I did notice their dogs are just sitting in their cars in the air conditioning home. Yeah, I noticed that too. It's hot out. It's hot out. Yeah.
Well, that's one of the reasons why we planned it for October. It'll be a little cooler.
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I mean, we're even going to give them a free meal and we're not charging them. The winner could get
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And there's cash prizes. So, I mean, it's really worth it. ‸ Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we've had a sponsor donate cash prizes for the winner.
So you're saying ‸ copper is scaring them off?
It may be copper that's scaring them off. I don't know. Yeah.
It's out.
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yeah.
Might be the first dog to get a PhD coming up here too. Yeah, he may. Probably is true.
Yeah. Yeah, he's getting there.
Okay. That's it. Yeah, that's it for
me.
It's different when Don's not here to harass
me.
I know.
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I know.
I'm just waiting for Don to say something. I
know.
Aren't you
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We missed you, Don.
Yeah, we missed him.
Yeah.
Jerry?
You know, I don't really have anything except I had a resident contact me recently and ask a question about, and maybe Matt can help me out with this one. They were asking about the water line on Sykes Creek Bridge. Is it, I mean, everything there has been repaired and functional.
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Yeah.
I
mean, Katie would probably be able to respond to that better, but yeah, immediately after the hurricane, they shored up the pilings and secured those. The bridge itself remains closed to vehicular traffic. And
I know that's not going to be repaired for what? ‸ Three to four years?
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They're
applying for funds. They're applying
for funds. Yeah. But no, our water line is functional. We're functional.
And we have no other issues with any of our water lines, correct? As far as out to the beach line or to any of the other outlying communities? No, we're fine. Okay.
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I think, a story on the progress of that bridge. There's also the county sewer line on it as well.
Right. Right. Okay. Okay. All right. Thank you. That's it.
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I don't have any further information.
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Yeah,
they're allocating the funding. I believe the intention is to open it back up to vehicular traffic.
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Believe it or not, we're in hurricane season. ‸ Of course, we're seeing a hurricane. Was it Florence? Bearing down on the Carolinas? Maybe Virginia?
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So everybody kind of
watch
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the ones behind it. And it's a crazy time. So hopefully this thing will dissipate and go north or something.
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elected, obviously, you noticed I was, you know, the news reporting, like the Today paper and the Orlando live news organizations and the sheriff's office, you know, putting out a lot of crime statistics, a lot of crime reports, ‸ and
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And so I just want ‸ to let you know that we're kind of back to that again. And I'll make a phone call and make it interesting. But we need to, you know, it's not fair for the community to
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should say
I'm incorporated
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that was the deal. And they're not doing that. They're back. They're back. Yeah,
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So, you know, fix it or not. I'll be out in
a
couple months and I'll make sure it gets in the paper. Make sure everybody knows. But it's not fair for the residents and people here. It's got nothing to do with us, you know. And all I did was point it out and fight, fight, fight for years. We all have. And it's made a big difference.
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down, that and the great policing
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I agree with you
and
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staying on top of being misidentified where crime actually happens. They also use the term, when it's in the county,
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Yeah.
They
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county that the crime was committed. And it's not a good thing.
No. And just to mention a little farther, you know,
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I
mean,
I take offense to it all. Because if I don't talk about this, then you can come to your own conclusions. But, you
know,
every four months, let's say, some buffoon will put something on social media or try to put it through one of
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live anywhere at any time, which is a bunch of crap, lies, fake news. And, you know, again, I'll have much more leeway in a couple months to do what I'm going to do. But the point is, it's so unfair to have just a beautiful city like ours with all the opportunity and upside and location,
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And we're on our way, folks,
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live, a better place to live than it's ever been, I should say. But just to have these news reports come out, then you find out it's like somebody you know did it and they think it's funny. It's just not right. And we deserve the best. We deserve better. We're not victims of nothing. We've got to pave our own way. But, you know, at least on your crime reports, you know, if all the news media is going
to
look at
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well, they're reporting it. It's, you know, it's in the county.
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four years ago, right? So, I mean, I'm just venting. We've done a great job and we're moving after tonight's discussion. We're going to move right into better harmony and we'll be better than the city south of
us, north of us,
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east, west, whatever. We're going to be on a great path. Going to look forward to the hotel meeting. Get better, Don. I don't know if Don's probably watching or not. And then the last thing tonight I thought was kind of funny. I noticed the city manager got a new truck and I'm happy because it's red. Got a red truck. It's a room dark, wherever it is. But I just want to congratulate your wife on that great purchase. And now they can go camping. Oh, yeah. It's a great truck and now they can go camping in style. And what do you think, John?
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Without any terms.
Yeah. And again, folks, before we close up, it's campaign season. Let's just look at it for what it is. There's a lot of, not everybody, but there's good people running. And let's just, you know, be tolerant of everything. We've got a great community situation coming and going. And we're going to make sure it's better in the future. It's all about building, you know, and on top of, you know, like what we're doing, the next council,
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about. It's a joke. Some of the stuff I saw during my campaign run and the flat out fake news and lies I saw there. But I have a,
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I'm very proud of everybody, what they've been doing and working, you know, from the council,
the
staff, the citizens.
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the road with it. So that's it.
Motion to adjourn.
Second. All in favor. Aye. Thank you for coming.
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