Public meeting before the meeting now, please, sir. We will have invocation by Councilman Kern.
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Come to the podium, sir. Yes, sir. All the way from Melbourne. Would everyone secure your phones, including me?
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Good evening, Mayor. Good evening, Council. Good evening, everyone, staff. And what am I doing, Mayor? Pledge. Okay, I just want to make sure. Simple instructions. All right, please join me in the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag to the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, sir.
‸ Remain standing for invocation. If everyone would please join me in a quick prayer. Dear Heavenly Father, I'd like to give thanks for allowing us all to
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neighbors outside. Give us a sound mind that we only make the best decisions here tonight on
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In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. Amen.
Samori B.
All right.
All
right. Hey, how's it going?
Are
you talking about this? That's in your schedule.
Okay.
Yeah, you're... You're doing this. You're...
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Madam Clerk, may we do roll call, please, now?
Yes, sir. Mayor Blake.
Present,
ma'am. Deputy Mayor Weeks. Here.
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Here. Council Member Hearn.
Here.
Council Member Koss. Here. City Attorney Garganese.
Here.
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Thank you.
Yes, ma'am. Yes, sir. Thank you very much, Madam Clerk. Appreciate you very much.
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Come rain, sleet, or snow. You will deliver the mail. All right.
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I would like to make a motion to approve the agenda with an amendment to remove item number 3-1 under awards and presentation. Also, we have a handout that I would like to add to Council Business 7-4, and I'm asking the Council to ‸ approve the National Railroad Partnership Program grant to fund the construction of the program. And
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Okay. Second by Deputy Mayor Weeks. Chair's going to call the question all in favor and say aye.
Aye.
Any nays? Aye's have it unanimously.
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What are the wishes of Council?
Motion
to approve with one amendment.
Okay. Let me hear your motion and your amendment now.
The amendment is on page 15. It's at the end. It starts.
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And I would like it to read several examples of inexpensive and creative enhancements to a bike parkway that she observed during a recent trip. The way it currently, and I don't expect the city clerk certainly to understand the context or the texture of all our conversations. But
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that I brought back that I would like to see us consider one day. Okay.
So
that is my motion to change it.
Second.
Thank you.
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Proceeding on to item number 4 are the delegations. Okay. This is how we're going to do this.
We
have a handout to Mr. George Frazier. Give me a second. Hold tight. Please, sir. I'm going to proceed in this order. Please, sir. Let me know if it's correct. Before I get to you three, I'm trying to do the last three. You all will be the last three. I have Mr. William Kyle, sir, come to the podium. You have three minutes to elaborate on your particular item.
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My concern is about traffic on Factory Street. ‸ It seems that traffic has gotten a little too fast. And requesting to have some speed tables added to the streets to prevent any kind of mishap with young and old alike on Factory Street. That's my petition.
Thank you very much, Mr.
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I know for a fact, sir, ‸ sometimes when 520 Northbound Lane gets backed up, people will spill off on Factory, which is what else?
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Yes, sir. And you're right. That ‸ charming young man with a haircut like mine to your immediate left. There's a process, and I'm just letting you know, he would
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diligence. I'm trying to keep a straight face.
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Yes, sir. Okay. And Abby, too, as well. Thank you very much, Mr. City Manager. They're going to do their due diligence. And then there's a paper process that we must follow, too, as well. But let your heart rest assured we have taken all this under consideration, and we will make the necessary adjustments, sir, to address your concerns.
Thank you. Thank you very
much. And I thank you for having the courage to come forward. I have my councilman here,
too.
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Yes, sir.
One of his neighbors, Ms. Ethel Smith, also called this week about the same thing. And so, and then before her, Ms. Sims, as well. And so, I think it is
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issue with being, ‸ again, a cut-through street, trying to get to 520. So, and that's all I had just to add to that.
Okay, sir. Thank you very much. Now,
we will
proceed in this order. Sir, because this is the way the cards were handed to me, Dr. Frazier. It will be you, Dr. Frazier. Then it will be Anthony Hatcher.
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Put him on here on the bishop,
man.
You're an authentic OG original bishop. We got some other jokers trying to come up here and imposter, but I'm going
to
leave that alone. So, Vola Frazier. Okay. Mrs. Frazier, Savola.
Yes, sir. She's on the way, so it may be Clinton.
Okay. No harm, no foul. Okay, sir.
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Dr. Frazier, sir.
Good evening, Mayor Blake. Good evening, sir. Council members and staff.
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I'm the Program Director for the Success Center, and we appreciate you allowing us to come in tonight to share with you our vision for prosperity in Brevard County, specifically in Cocoa and Rockledge. The ‸ Prosperity and Wealth Summit is a
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with one mission, and that's to make sure that prosperity and wealth is in every neighborhood, every zip code in our country. The reality here in Cocoa is that we have families here that are working hard. They're busting their behinds, but they're still falling behind. They're still not able to all afford being in the city that they love to be in. And so what we have found is that the dream isn't enough. We found that the average family in Cocoa makes about $56,000 a year. But in order to buy a house, it costs between $260,000 and $300,000. And you know and I know that most people can't buy a house with $56,000 a month.
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This is affecting small businesses. At the Success Center, and we're over in Rockledge, just on the other side of Main Street, we have an incubator ‸ and we also do training. And what we have found is that our small businesses don't have the capital that they need. So we're looking at small businesses. We're looking at our first responders. We're looking at families, young adults, and they don't have what they need. So we found that the dream is not happening. And why? Because after decades of financial literacy training,
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real access, and they need to have real action. And that's what the Prosperity and Wealth Summit is all about. It's about lowering those barriers, helping our citizens, our community, helping those first responders, the pillars, to be able to afford to live and experience the dream. And so I appreciate you allowing us to come up here, and I know my three minutes are nearly done. And so with that, I'll close and I'll say at the flock,
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to say we can't do it without you. And so we appreciate you giving us this opportunity to share this with you. Are there any questions?
We have any questions.
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this prosperity and ‸ Wealth Summit for the kids have been in existence? And what exactly does it entail?
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national initiative that started up in Alabama. And for the last 18 months, they've been working with families and small businesses to lower those barriers that you see there.
Now, are you working with other municipalities too as well?
Yes, sir.
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We've got Councilman Smith back here. And even though it's happening in Cocoa Rockledge, this is impacting Brevard County, Central Florida. And our desire is that we encompass the whole state.
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But
‸ in years to come. Yes, ‸ sir.
Okay.
Any questions for Dr. Frazier? Yes, sir. Councilman.
Good evening. Good evening,
sir.
I read through this package and got a lot of information on here. And I know what the initiative is. Yes, sir. As far as the city of Cocoa, is there any goals in mind that, you know, as far as what you're looking for from the city of Cocoa, how we can support this initiative?
Thank you, sir. So what we need from the city of Cocoa is we need ‸ support in finding sponsors. If you have funds, we would love to get some funds to make this happen. Because the summit itself is one day. It's one event that kicks off a whole year. And in order for us to make this happen, we are looking for funds. But we're also looking for your partnership. We're looking for your voice. We're looking for you all to share with your constituents what we're trying to do collectively. Not three organizations that have collaborated, but
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Brevard County.
Councilwoman calls.
Yeah,
I
was going to ask. So this is a CEO, right? I mean, it's not a it's a nonprofit.
Yes, ma'am.
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we donate monies to nonprofits?
Yeah. Well, this
event actually happens after the beginning of the fiscal year. So you have the reset. Is that the $5,000 that's set aside?
I
thought it was.
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year.
And then there's an application process to go through as well.
So could we make sure they get an application so we could entertain that at their next council meeting?
Yes, the city clerk will take care of that.
Okay, great.
Thank you, ma'am.
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Yes, ma'am.
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I was going to ask, when is it? I just found it. It's Sunday, October the 19th. Is that correct? Yes. And it says location 15 cities nationwide.
Yes.
Is it virtual?
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It is virtual.
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And then everything else is being spread out from us. And the goal is for us to have
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and receive this information. I see.
Because I don't see...
I
didn't see an address in here as to where it's
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That
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Yes. So, as I stated, it sounds like a great initiative. I'm excited and, you know, I want to attend this, you know, this summit. Yes. So, I just wanted to add, I don't know if you had already done so, but I would ask that you reach out to
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Singer. And maybe, you know, we can get this information pushed out to the community and touch as many people as possible.
Yes, sir. And we definitely will. I got her card just this afternoon. ‸ Yeah, just this afternoon. And I'll be reaching out tomorrow morning.
Perfect. Thank you.
You're welcome. Thank you.
So, you may have a seat, sir.
Thank you, sir. So, yes,
sir, the Honorable Bishop Hatcher, sir.
Good afternoon, Mayor, Deputy Mayor, City Manager, Councilman, Police Chief, Fire Chief, all the distinguished people,
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I just want to honor all of you here for giving us this privilege. You know,
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year will be 30 years. And I participated in all different types of events throughout this county. You know, during COVID, our church was one of the shelters that fed numerous families during COVID. I mean, we would have cars stacked up, maybe 700 cars stacked up a day. And so we've always been in this position where we wanted to answer the social ills of our society. And
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One of
the
things I want to say is this project is for people who want to have a second chance, who want to live a life better.
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Now, yes, it's going to be semi-cash. But
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going to be also some other residential experts there. For instance, if someone want to know about a
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they want to know about finances, they want to know about insurance. All of these particular experts will be there on ‸ the ground to help them, empower them to see a better future. You know, so I wanted to first of all, thank you all for giving us this privilege because we want to not just give them a fish. We don't teach them how to fish. And so this health fair, it's going to be a lot of families. And the reason why we are asking for sponsorships and for financial assistance is because the people that we are catering to, we don't expect for them to pay for it. And they can't pay for it. So we want to make it free for them and, you know, give them an opportunity. When they leave there, they'll say, man, you know, I do have a better outlook on life. I believe I can achieve something. And I
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talk to the police chief and know that when you got a good economy and you got people strong and they got money in their pocket, the crime goes down low.
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If you have any questions, I would ask them right now.
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Clinton Hatcher. I don't know which one is the dad or the son, you know, and Mr. Frazier. And so
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‸ transparent, my family's business is failing based on not having a succession plan to move forward.
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there's usually not much conversation that needs to be had prior to in some families and especially marginalized communities. And so based on a conversation that we had that because I'm if you know me, I'm a very open book. And sometimes I wear a heart on my sleeve. And sometimes that's a fault that I have as well. But based on our conversation, I immediately went home and had that conversation with my father. Very uncomfortable conversation.
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for the community. But but it's selfishly beneficial for me and my family. And so it was very personal to me to have that conversation with you guys. So the support that we can we can do we do whatever we can with the winner in our means. But definitely getting the word out for sure. That's the one of the biggest things and show our support for for the initiative. But but but again,
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like to thank all three of you. You know, it was just supposed to be just a conversation between me and Mr. ‸ Frazier.
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And but but I wanted to tell you why you was here that I really appreciate you for the word that you gave me, because, again, it helped probably generations that you and me may not ever see based on a five minute, ten minute conversation. And so I'd like to thank you for for pouring into me.
If I can give you a transparent moment, if you give me
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But
I will say, you know, as I gave a councilman my conversation, I'll tell I told him about my situation in my family and how my children say that we're going to have a meeting.
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‸ They said
dad
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we want to know what you have as far as your succession plan.
Hmm.
Caught me off guard. I didn't know what this meeting was about.
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‸ I began to lay out everything to them and showed them the reason why I wanted them to have a career, why I wanted them to own their homes. All my kids own their homes.
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And then I
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with them, well, listen, what me and your mom have is going to be passed on to our grandkids and our children's children. So we have a successful plan in place. And the thing is, how many of us are taught how to pass that baton on to the next generation?
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Yeah, man.
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For sure.
That's
very powerful. Thank you. Very powerful.
Okay. Next, well, thank you,
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Well, tonight, ‸ thank you all ‸ for your time. So I think they've said it all. I don't think I really need to say anything regarding, you know, what we are looking to do, the who, what, why, and how we're looking to do it. I think we've answered those questions.
But
I will piggyback on the story that my father was sharing. And, yeah, and we did kind of bamboozle him and put him in a corner and say to him and my mom, well, what do you all have planned? Because, you know, I have attended a ‸ couple different sessions with attorneys talking about trust and legacy planning and talking with different CPAs and different things of that sort. because our family legacy is very important. And if we are not taking a proactive approach towards it, then it's going to be left in the wind.
You
know, Dr. Frazier always shares his story about, you know, there are two families. You got the Vanderbilts and you have, what's the other family?
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He forgot, too.
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Yeah. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we got,
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And the
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That's right.
And the Vanderbilts don't.
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‸ together, is we want to be able to answer those questions and provide the resources necessary for families, across Brevard County to be able to have these resources, to put things in place that they need to have. And so I thank you all for the opportunity. And just to close a statement, at the end of the day, what good, what's good for family is good for neighborhoods. And what's good for neighborhoods is good for business. And what's good
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That is the multiplier effect for this summit. Thank you.
Good job. Thank you very much, sir. Good job. Good
job.
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Okay. But more so than anything else,
I
believe in like ‸ five Ps. Proper preparation promotes positive productivity.
I
love it. And you all are making it happen. You're giving people future. You're giving people hope. And you're right, because through the death of my father, I had a trustee. You know, I had a trust.
Yes.
So there again, knowledge is power. And this is what this summit is all about. And I'm glad that we had the opportunity to meet and more to come.
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All right. Thank you very
much. Appreciate you.
All right. Any other cards for delegations?
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Rise again, ma'am. Come on down.
That's long been done.
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Good evening, everybody. Good evening. My name is Anita Gibson.
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I don't think that's necessary. But I just want to keep resonating my concern personally, be it over and over again or whatever. And I will do it until I see some results. I'm just going to speak on two issues. I'm still waiting for someone to give me. First of all, I had ‸ an approval for a revitalization or a renovation of my home last year, a year ago. And I did everything necessary and so forth and so on. But in the end, the buck was passed to Habitat that did my home. So right now, today, I'm waiting to see what's going on with this. And I've got some feedback at the CRA, but that was just conversation. The fact of the matter is the city staff does a great job at what they do.
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research and take time. And they are not able to handle the workload or the caseload of different residents that I know personally, too, have not had the work done that was supposedly to be done. And
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as well as to what's going on with my home.
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I want to say that I sent in 38 pages of certified information because they said they didn't have enough. Then as I was a year ago, so this year, I've had several conversations with Habitat that I've documented and it goes nowhere. And I just want to say one or two things quickly. I still want to know. I ‸ want to know what's going to happen with my situation. But I have some grave concerns about our new growth
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Blake subdivision. But I am concerned. I don't go to the budget meetings. But how is our
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to be incorporated if we don't have enough ‸ for police and badges and cars and uniforms?
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So whatever it takes to make it work, I'm all in agreement. And I have no qualms against the city staff or anybody. But I need what I need and everybody needs what they need. Thank you.
Thank you very much,
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Madam Clerk, any other cards? All right. This concludes this portion of delegations proceeding forward to consent agenda item. Where do the wishes of council move to approve? You got a motion on the floor by Deputy Mayor Weeks. Second.
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All in favor of saying aye. Aye. Any nays? Ayes have it unanimously. Proceeding on to item number 6-4, public hearing.
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Amendment creating four corners overlay district. Request to postpone to a date certain of October the 14th, 2025.
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on is that that date is ‸ the regular city council meeting. It starts at 6 p.m. So.
Okay. All righty. Because of we're postponing this, do we need to hear from the planner?
I
just want to make sure.
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Okay. So what I would do is
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And you can elaborate on the request postponing of a certain date of October the 14th, 2025,
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chill out
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to close this portion to the public and return to the council. Deputy Mayor Weeks.
I just want to point out that the 14th is the day that we all have to leave to drive down after our council meeting that evening. Just pointing that out.
Okay. Thank you,
man
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Well,
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14th is when we drive down. And that's right. The same day as the council
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I thought we were going to have ‸ that night then. Yeah.
We will leave that night. So we have a three-hour drive after.
Yeah. Well, on the road again. Yes. You're right. No, no. You're right. Okay.
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Any nays?
eyes had it
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unanimously. Pat, ‸ Deputy Mayor Weeks made the motion. And a second was by, was that
your
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Okay. I second it. I'll call the question again. Do I need to call the question again? Because it was unanimous.
No, I got it.
Okay. Cool beans.
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comprehensive plan. Text amendment. Four corners overlay district. Request to postpone to a date certain of October the 14th, 2025.
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Garganese,
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going through the motions.
I mean, same request to postpone October 14th, 2025 ‸ at the regular city council meeting at 6 p.m.
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Do we have any questions? Saying none. Sure like to close this portion to Council and to the public. If you have any concerns on this particular large-scale comprehensive plan, text amendment, ‸ four corners, please come forward and state your name.
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What are the wishes of Council? Move to approve. We got a motion on the floor by Deputy Mayor Weeks.
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You got it?
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going
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the question. All in favor of saying aye. Aye. Any nays?
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have it unanimously.
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that we're going to discuss. Nothing but the fees.
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Ordinance ‸ number 11-2025. An
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offenses and miscellaneous provisions. Article 3, sidewalk
cafes
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section 14-68 permit fee to specify that the annual permit fee for sidewalk cafes shall be established via resolution of the City Council providing for codification, conflict, severability, and an effective date. This is first reading of this ordinance. It's ‸ really ‸ a proposed change to the ordinance that's procedural. Currently, the fee for sidewalk ‸ cafe permits is $25, and that's embedded in the actual city code itself. The proposal would change that procedure to then establish those fees by resolution adopted by the council rather than hard-coding it into the code.
Okay.
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Saying none, we would like to go to the planner. Next.
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I would just like to highlight that in 1999, the city adopted ordinance 2-99, which created the framework
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So we come to ask that staff recommends and come to ask council to approve this ordinance 11-2025.
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resolution for the next city council for review and approval.
Yes, ma'am. Do we have any questions for Ms. Lucy? Saying none. Chair, I'd
like
to close this portion to council over to the public. Please come forward and state your name. If you have any questions pertaining to this particular ordinance.
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Chair, I'd
like
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Move to approve.
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motion on
the floor by Deputy Mayor Weeks. Second.
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going to call the question all in favor by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Any nays? Aye's have it unanimously.
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7.
Did
I say 6? Yep. My apologies. Thank you. 7-1. Okay. Provide direction on FDOT landscaping maintenance contract. Now as you can also see, it's up to council to determine the current contract language budgeted item for fiscal year 2026. We did approve this original document back in January 2020. January the 8th, 2020. And we did modify it on June the 11th, 2021.
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to assume the right-of-way of maintenance services to include medians on Clear Lake, State Road 501, from State Road 520, to South of Michigan Avenue. ‸ Did I miss anything?
I had a presentation.
Yes, ma'am.
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over to you, Mrs. Morgan.
Okay. Here's some background on this agenda item for council.
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Yes.
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Works maintains state road rights of way under a current FDOT landscape maintenance contract. Covered roadways include
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State Road 520, Fisk Boulevard, State Road 524, and Clear Lake Road. FDOT recently completed the Clear Lake Road Speed Management Safety Project from State Road 520 to the south side of Michigan
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Avenue.
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At an FDOT Clear Lake Safety Project landscape meeting in 2022, the following items were discussed and agreed upon. The city requested FDOT to manage construction of the landscaping project. City was to assume maintenance once the project was accepted. The MOA with reimbursement terms would be under development at that time. Discussions with the county to extend maintenance limits ‸ beyond city boundaries would take place. Roadway design would provide appropriate soil base for landscaping. City staff would coordinate with college for maintenance responsibilities and FDOT would be exploring irrigation sleeve options. So here is the status.
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Boulevard on Clear Lake Road. FDOT also requested city to assume additional maintenance within rights-of-way and medians. At a recent meeting with FDOT, city staff declined responsibility for college landscaping. FDOT may amend its agreement with the ‸ college. Staff also expressed concern about maintaining areas under county jurisdiction. Possible resolution depends on the MOA reimbursement. So these are some key challenges. No irrigation was installed in medians and rights-of-way as part of the safety project and retrofitting is unlikely. Soil excavation notes are insufficient ‸ for planting survival success. Unirrigated shrubs ground cover are unlikely to survive long term. Increased maintenance costs are anticipated. Some other challenges include FDOT reimbursement does not offset city's six-figure annual loss under the current maintenance agreement. Lack of irrigation remains a critical funding and plant survivability issue. County also faces similar budget constraints for ongoing maintenance so it is unlikely they will assume responsibility for their portion of Clear Lake Road.
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current MOA with FDOT for the maintenance of 11.364 miles of state roads ‸ is $62,530. The city maintenance costs are $174,974.
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to maintain state roads. This cost does not include staff street sweeping labor and equipment depreciation. Council consideration option one decline FDOT's request to assume right-of-way maintenance on
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or option two to negotiate with FDOT to revise landscaping
plans
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and assume maintenance responsibility from Dixon Boulevard to Michigan Avenue. ‸ What are their wishes of ‸ Council?
Thank you very much Mrs. Morgan for detail and
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we get to this point? I mean we requested that there be soils that would be able to, so that the landscaping would survive. And so did they just not do that? or They
did. They did provide some percolation notes and and some excavation notes, but
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we all know that
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stringent than just the local road and it's been our experience with taking on other segments of state roads like state road 520 and US 1 where
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Right, well no, because they bring in a substandard soil and it's a rough environment for plants to survive anyway but in the case of US 1 I know we spent 1 million dollars
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520 I know that you can see the lines ‸ and so what is the plan because our our entryways are really important to our image We've said you know many times that ‸ doesn't matter how nice the streets are if your entryway to the city looks blighted, the assumption is the city is blighted so what is the solution here because even option one I mean how are we gonna how are we gonna get the result we want the result we want is welcoming corridors how do we get that
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know remember we talked in the budget about these additional expenses and so the state will be happy to say you
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there remember in the budget we're actually I think we're actually in this current fiscal year we're actually making some improvements to the medians on 520 and so we're putting in irrigation our ourselves where you all are actually putting in the irrigation to do that so so 520 is being taken care of I forget whether or not there's irrigation on
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so
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so really the bottom line is if you're if the city is willing to pay for it the state will let you pay for it so so so and and and you know your ability to pay for it is is again the ‸ challenge you because
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that we take care of on their behalf,
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in your tree fund, you really have dollars that we're dedicating to the entry road for the for the station but again those are also one-time dollars so I wouldn't I wouldn't suggest that you utilize those for recurring expenditures and so with regards to this and Abby go back a couple of slides go back to the what they really want us what they're really asking
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yeah I'll say Michigan they're asking us to take take over the whole thing which includes you know you go in and out of the city portions of the county and so they're saying hey take that over take it all over obviously the county will let you take that over too you know so so and then I think around the curve they're actually asking for us to do that too
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that's me representing the city and saying to to Abby to tell FDOT that we don't have an ability
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So so again, either either going to accept the amendment, which would include additional responsibilities that we can't afford,
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bring more dollars to the table. More dollars, in my mind, would be to clear up the deficit and to actually put new dollars on the table for the areas that you want us to take care of.
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again realizing that there are partners and I know a lot of times it doesn't feel that way you know there are partners and so we had to maintain the relationship but an option to we would simply go back
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to take on what you're asking us to take on and we'd like to actually talk about you actually
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the deficit that already exists now I don't know that there's going to be a favorable outcome but I guess we would continue the discussions and then bring that back to you later or you could just go to an outright well we'll maintain what we have what we have currently under the agreement
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so the agreement is up in March so you have a little bit of time to actually try to negotiate something
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I would have to
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that we just automatically accept what they're proposing
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so FDOT
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reimbursement is what they would pay themselves to maintain to their typical standards so there's no room for negotiating for a higher level of standard they were very clear ‸ if
you want that higher level if you want it then that's an additional expense that the city has to bear I mean the bottom line on that
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state row 520 okay
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ma'am I'm gonna let you do your thing trust me I'm not going to stop you
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um yeah I mean I'm still going back to how do we get the result we want um and I know that one of the issues if you
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you know you just um you're not going to get a good landscape with poor soils and ‸ I mean I've had numerous conversations with
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about that and her suggestion was ‸ you're really going to have to enrich those soils
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put in some higher quality soil to grow anything and then of course you would have to um go with more
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so they have a higher chance of survival but I'm just yeah I'm
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I don't want to I certainly want to um not put us in a position where we have to spend more than we should but I don't think we can abandon our corridors um This is really disappointing. It's disappointing we're getting it now too um because we've had since the town hall last year people have been asking about you know the landscaping and you know the standard answer has been you know the that
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Just
to clarify yeah as part of the the project the contractor is to maintain uh the medians for two years.
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a project separate from the construction of the road
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uh declines to to expand our responsibilities and so if you're interested in in how we get to
a
better uh aesthetic uh for our for our medians then we'd have to bring you back a plan that obviously that would it would include uh soil replacement um it's it's the on it's irrigation it's the ongoing uh staff time for
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high standard there
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we could bring you back a full analysis of what that would look like in terms of a full fiscal analysis of what what that would look like.
and
then have you done any um costing out of of doing um enhancing the soils do you have any idea? um
no uh the um the project plans uh we received them um they do have uh general notes uh that uh ‸ to have uh details regarding you know excavation and percolation showing and proving and having
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reports provided to the agency um
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and so the contractor uh that will be for that project will have to maintain the medians for two years.
Starting next spring or
whenever whenever they go out to bid for that project.
Okay and do we have
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in terms of developing our corridors and best practices for doing that in terms of enriching the soils?
This is a state road. ‸ now I guess that ‸ would be a discussion between FDOT and...
um
But
for 520 I mean we're looking at enhancing those corridors. Yes. So have we done any consulting with the people that are experts in this?
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more of an irrigation less about the soils on 520. We put in the irrigation and so um we haven't consulted ‸ with uh ice IFAS
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I mean we can obviously let her look at what we intend on putting in there so I don't have a problem with that.
Well I can tell you she's thought about it quite a bit already. We've had several conversations. um
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is the and the perception of our city are just tied together and so there is concern for making them look better. um the irrigation was there before too. Yeah it was. Well I mean you could see that they had lines you could see them.
It was available but we had to um um re-pipe it.
Okay. Okay. okay okay well my concern is you know the bottom line is making our corridors look good. I think it's really important to the the future of our city to
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that would be great.
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um um
I'm just absolutely floored that they put in these medians and redid
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um and now they did not do it properly or put in the irrigation that they said that they were going to and now expecting us to do it. I want to know if we can take the medians out. um That would be cheaper, I think. um I'm just throwing it out there. um Also, we could plant cactus because they don't require water. Not exactly Florida, but, you know, I'm just throwing out some ideas. uh
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anyway, I i just, I can't believe that they did this. and I shouldn't say that. But, anyway, uh it's it's a bad situation and, um you know, neither one of these options are very good. um If we decline it, that doesn't mean that we can't keep negotiating. Is that correct? That what I'm getting? if
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for the areas that we're maintaining, and then they would just maintain them to their, the other areas to their standards there. And I ‸ and I would, ‸ I would say, you know, because they're our partners, let me just say it this way. They, they, they would say they're not doing anything wrong. We, we would say that we would, we would, uh um create and develop them to a higher standard and maintain them to a higher standard. So, let's just say it that way that, that, um you know,
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in terms of the soil quality, in terms of irrigation. um we see that differently. um again, because it's our city. It's their state road running through our city. And ‸ so,
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we're back to the current agreement that we have. Again, there's still some issues with that. But again, if you go one, then we're gonna, we're gonna bring back to you. Hey, ‸ if you really want to do this thing where there's pride in, uh the
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that run through the city and you want to do it at what we would consider our, our, uh standard, then we're going to price that out for you.
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would do irrigation? Yes.
That they would look into it.
They would look into it.
We never
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received any communication. from But
that was, Abby, was that in the agreement or is that part of the discussions?
It was part of the discussions at that 2022 meeting. Okay,
so it wasn't in the So
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I just have a question,
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that they'll, so that's what they'll be paying the city um per year if we...
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uh miles of road for them
okay so if we if we just say we make a decision in our budget next year to enhance these islands to our standard, but they still maintain it, right? But they'll only maintain it to their standard, not ours. Because we technically, they still own the roads. They own the right of ways. And they're saying, hey put whatever you want spend 1.5 million dollars but we are still going to provide the maintenance based on how we want to choose to provide that standard. Am I correct am i right? Correct.
okay And and also, there so there there are, if you think about
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it Michigan?
Well, yeah the the project is was from 520 to south side of Michigan. Yeah.
and so And so there are, there are we we're only maintaining the medians that are within the city, or are we maintaining the ‸ county medians also?
So currently, well, before this
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ways So this is this is an addition of the medians that would be both within the city and and in the unincorporated county.
Wow. okay I'm good, sir.
donate
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Yeah, I just had a quick comment about the two years. I mean, two years is what they, uh when you're doing a landscape, two years for it to establish. So usually your maintenance really drops off after that. If you planted, anyway, if you planted a native landscape, um there should be a lot less maintenance after two years, but a lot less watering, etc But um I'm still on our options. I'm like, uh
we
don't have any good ones. and uh
We have a motion on the floor by the chair in a second by uh Councilman
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for option number one. All in favor saying
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this is our annual agreement with the historic
cocoa
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village main street association um they this is a municipal services agreement so they provide services to
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so again this is a renewal of the uh agreement that expired in July 2026 um and this will go for a three year up to three years one year renewals that they ‸ both parties have to agree upon and it will give the city manager the authority to approve the renewals on the agreements and I'm happy to answer any questions that you might have and we also have members of Main Street here if you have questions for
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call a question all in favor saying aye aye any nays i was happy unanimously thank you uh proceeding on for this grant association for parks and national recreation and
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like to make a motion to approve second ‸ motion on the floor by the chair in the second by Deputy Mayor
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Would you like to say anything, Mrs. uh
Singer? No, sir.
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delegation. And in support of the contract was written. It's a Scrivener adjustment now because it was written on the previous administration, but the new current administration, is asking us to you know enhance the wordsmith and meet their standards and requirements. It's a no-brainer to me because we're right there on the cusp of this so chair like to make a motion I will listen to you mrs. singer but
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I need a second second okay
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this is if you all
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to apply for this FSP grant that was for FY 24
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we actually submitted in December and we had been waiting this whole time to see what was going on. In the meantime,
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grants. There's been you know reissued grants. So finally, we got word this week that they are reissuing that grant with three different additions to the the wording of the grant. So we are asking and seeking permission to reapply for this new grant. And it would be very similar. We'll go through the the NOFO that comes out
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the information. But it would be a very similar submission that we would have.
‸ congressman Mike
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this this event and as you know he's in charge of the space administration here he's the chairperson or chairman I'm a southern gentleman and I know for a fact that everyone knows we're right on the edge of making this come to reality I believe in this even our deputy mayor weeks collaborated with some certain individuals I'm not I don't I'm not sure but you
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there at Washington DC
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and various individuals from the different departments of transportation councilwoman calls
yeah I was gonna ask I ‸ didn't see any dates do you know
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they will notify us but I I believe it's kind of that same time frame where we're hoping
‸ January remember the ‸ it's due in January the due date is January and so we don't know if this is rolling ie they're gonna they're gonna make awards prior to the due date or they're gonna ‸ wait for everybody to get in and then notify after the due date there. One of the things I will say to you
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the email from on the notice in that email I think that's very significant because
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the official notification coming out that they were going to reissue the grant
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we we've
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and our other partners TPO
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will have question-and-answer periods. and And so we will ask all of those questions. Are you gonna ‸ wait for everybody to get into a ward or are we gonna ‸ have
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a rolling award notices there? But none of those, we we we don't know any of those right now. We just simply know that they've removed the DEI requirements of the grant they've removed other items in the grant and then they sort of alluded to what they were going to focus on in this reissued grant.
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guess I'll make a motion to approve
all right that's right we did yeah we did that's right just gonna call the question
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mr. city manager
mayor I don't think that we have any staff reports here we we are attempting to schedule individual meetings with council members on a number of
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talked about the bright line and then there's just a lot of discussion up in Tallahassee about the elimination of property taxes there and so I would I would ask that you guys keep your eyes open
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there's going to
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think the third year that that's happening I'm participating they asked the managers to come out and present on the state of the cities and that is happening on October 7th at 730 a.m. at the Space Coast Association of Realtors office in Melbourne and that's it for me sir
oh mr. city manager I just want to compliment all 400 plus employees for doing an outstanding job as we've been embracing all this wet weather you know what time of year it is just want to say thank you for their commitment and dedication and
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to the police department for resolving that issue without any negative events taking place. So kudos to you, Chief
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and women of the department
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I did forget one thing
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because
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Yeah, just a little bit under 3.
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‸ staff uh Charlene I think Rebecca Samantha whomever was out there on that Thank
you ladies. What's all the ladies doing? What's up, guys?
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um and so so that's that's huge for us it's a it's a different design if I I think Abby was in on that too if I'm not mistaken Abby that's a different design which keep your fingers crossed and
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that we may have sometime in the distant future So again, ‸ just wanted to give a shout out to staff on that uh ‸ thank you that very big win. thank
you sir thank
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All right. Very good, sir. um okay
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All right. All right. are the Boston Red Sox still in the um contention of going to the World Series sir
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thank you Pastor for being here in the audience
Pastor thank you okay uh Councilman Hearn who who do we have tonight sir
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um I have no report but I would like to ask that we extend an invitation to
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us prior to the delegation because as you all know this is gubernatorial year and
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and
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but just to have
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because it makes a difference when we go to
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and ‸ already have a positive report with him and you know he's always greeted us warm he's been instrumental with us with Bright Line
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I'm requesting to counsel that Mr. City
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okay All in favor saying aye. aye okay you got it Mr. City Manager so yes sir okay uh would Which odd would like to go first?
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I'll go first ‸ you got it okay okay let's see if I can remember what order I have these in there you go um let me make sure that was is that my first I know is that was that my no it wasn't I gotta go back okay
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this was the gala for Brevard children families in need um
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million in the last uh 14 years and a hundred percent of the donations nice are stay in this community our association pays for the maintenance I mean for all the costs involved with it so uh that's my daughter to my left there and then her friends to the right and left anyway uh that was held and um it's it's a big event and we give back to everything from the hunger project to ‸ family promise and all of those and uh ‸ had to get a picture with uh Sheriff Ivy there who who still brings up my uh speech and my roasting of him and and when he roasted me one of his things he said was that I was a very successful realtor I
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one I bought so he said to me right out of the gate is this where all those who've only sold one house get to come so anyway uh but we gave him uh
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and if our own does not put in for grants for
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from uh the foundation you need to do that because we give away a lot of money from the realtor association so um and then this was a state of the state wrap up and this was through the uh uh
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uh they gave some real insights and one of them being talking about the doing away with property taxes and he said they're mainly looking at doing away with it for homesteaded properties um and they looked at that and said that in brevard county right now our tax rate our sales tax is six and a half percent they said if they went up to eight and a half percent it would cover the difference and
I don't know if those are hard and fast
dollars but that was what they said there so that was from senator
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who said that um this is the windward preserve from 528 you know every time I drive 528 I'm watching it so I tried my grandson took this picture I don't take pictures while I'm driving chief anyway um he took this picture, but it is coming along nicely out there. um And then
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And uh this is some of the folks there. And you can locally, you can see Andrea there, who's the uh Mayor of West Melbourne. And um we had about 57 uh mayors and deputy mayors who were there. And we went on this airboat ride. And the building on the left there is part of the lock system down there. And our uh our guide told us that the this area was totally dry for three months this past summer because they just didn't get rain.
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fill it up with water. On the right, you'll see
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the movie one?
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or it didn't come through?
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Okay. I'm not sure if, okay, I'll go back. um Anyway, that's uh one of them was, a
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They were chasing us. And that one there, and
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because they kept coming after us and uh coming right up towards the boat. And you know, the side of a of an airboat is not very high. So Peggy and I were quite concerned. She was sitting right in front of me there. So we took a picture. And um then this was right after that. And this was uh some of the talks was developing your message. And it was excellent. The gentleman there, uh he's uh had the record for a long time. And I didn't get a picture of the alligator. It's up above his head.
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for a long time. He also, um his name's Mr. Bergeron. ‸ Well, he did kill it. It's stuffed up up there. But this was from ‸ long, long, long time ago. uh He's uh well in his 80s. So I don't know how long ago that alligator was. But anyway, it was a great presentation about how to make your message simple when talking to uh elected officials, you know, Tallahassee and stuff like that, and not get into the weeds, but have real stories and all that. So it was excellent. ‸ gentleman right there. i took I sat next to him at dinner. If you don't know, that is uh Diesel
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oh boy, is he old. He was legally,
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um he
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what an outstanding young man. He knew from the age of 13 or 12 that he wanted to run for office and uh is doing a phenomenal job there in Edgewater. So anyway, I just, uh I so enjoyed chatting with him and talking with him. And oh here's my video. Look at that gator.
oh my goodness. And
and it's probably, they told us about
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Let me tell you. So anyway, then I intended the Chamber's honor and this was
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Anyway,
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and they were honoring businesses, which is really good and gave out awards for a variety of different uh business things, uh small, medium, large businesses. And, but ‸ she did a great speech and, uh ‸ that was really good. So anyway, um that was
all I have. Great
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um So at our last council meeting, I did not, um which council probably know by now, um but i I told the family, I would, I would make sure I say her name. um
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uh she was 102 years old. um so she's the mother of Susie Spearman and Diane O'Hara. um and, and, um and so me and the mayor, two years ago, we took her, uh
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mayor also, um he signed the, um a proclamation for her. uh thank you for uh the clerk's office for getting that done as well. um at the last minute as always. Thank you for that though. um so I wanted to just make sure I say that on, on record. she, she was very
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that, that truly encouraged me to run, uh seven years ago. And so I really appreciate her and always, you know, try to shout her out anytime I can. um so, uh September 26th, on which is Friday. um I will
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um at 8 30 a.m uh and the topic is politics up today so it should be very exciting uh but that's 8 30 a.m at the Hilton Rialto, um hotel.
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gold gala ‸ is October the 11th. I encourage all council members to come and say school in our community, um that need our support as always um so that's october the 11th 2025 5
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Yeah. Okay, go ahead.
Sorry, sorry.
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‸ All
right. So I went to the uh training workshop for planning officials last week.
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of course, for
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of people. um And I know that at one point we were doing this because I remember when
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training like this too. And it's just really helpful to understand the comp plan, the purpose for it, um the fact that, you know, it is that blueprint for our future, that it's that covenant between our local government and citizens. And it's something to really look at and consider as we make these decisions decisions. Because it's the one thing, the one, what keeps us looking forward to the future. Because so many of the things that we're doing have the real impact
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It's also a legal foundation um and an opportunity to communicate with our communities and get their involvement and opinion on things. But um they talked about, you know, making it smart. So that's the acronym for being specific, measurable. We have, our comp plan, of course, has objectives and, um but does not get down to the uh the level of of smart, of being specific and measurable and achievable, relevant, and time bound. um And I've had connecting to this to a call that I had this week from Ashley Ingram, who's been calling me for the last couple of years, actually. She's also called her, contacted and communicated with the city manager, ‸ regard to having a park in their neighborhood. And this, as
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and Pine Ridge area that is a park desert. And so, i you know, we have some reference to this in ‸ our comprehensive plan, that we will consider citing a future neighborhood parks. And of course, it would apply to this area where they are not within walking distance to a park, where Ashley as an example, a young woman, who is invested in this neighborhood, and has a young child, planning to have more. But, you know, that park is really important to those young mothers, especially. And then, of course, we've talked about the other things we can do with parks in terms of seniors, and and just the quality of life that they
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provide to a neighborhood, to a community. um We talked about, let's see you know we've talked about, or I think at our last meeting, making motions to make things happen. um I've had this on my list every year for the last seven years, this particular neighborhood, um because
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And I understand our constraints.
But I think
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with people like Ashley Ingram, who have been asking year after year, you know, even contacting the city manager, is that we have start to get a little more granular, apply that smart to this.
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but there should certainly be something on the books, some plan in place that sets a course for our future. And you know, it's the whole it's the whole Yogi Bear you know saying that if you don't know where you're going, you'll end up someplace else. Well,
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um but it wasn't necessarily, you know, our prioritizing. It was more making sure there was something going on
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pushed up on a radar screen and at least have in mind a framework, uh you know, a timeline. Or maybe even if we can't do a definite timeline,
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we can fulfill the needs of this particular neighborhood. So, um
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don't know if this is an agenda item, but I'll i'll make the motion that we direct staff to come up with a plan for this park desert. um
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And we have no other place to make them. Yes, you can ask them to put it on
as an agenda ‸ Okay, then I'm asking that if you put ‸ an agenda item
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a way that
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discuss it. I've, you know, I've talked about this many times. um But anyway, you know, my heart goes out to people that are really investing. And again, that comp plan, that is our covenant.
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area. uh So last thing is that, you know,
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sorry that I will not be at the next council meeting. um I will try to call in, but I'm going to be in a more remote area and and may not be able to make the connection. So I'm going to miss the blue and gold gala as well, which I've attended in previous years. so thank you very much.
Good
evening, everyone. um I didn't get my photos in in time, but I had some really great photos. I'll just save save them for the next one. um
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of Broadmoor Acres. um greeted by many happy citizens to see the, uh the drainage improvements, sidewalk improvements, as well as the new paving. This i believe it's probably completed by today. um if you all get a chance to you know take a ride in that area, it just, it looks like a whole new neighborhood and, uh it's really brought some pride into that neighborhood. uh as you know, that many of those streets were prone to flooding previously. we've had some heavy rains over the past, ‸ couple ‸ weeks. um
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um so it's it's good. Anytime we can bring a neighborhood that's kind of been forgotten about and left behind for a while, uh to see them, you know, come up. um the park is looking great. uh I've made my rounds
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tree out there. I think,
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ceremony for that tree. It's growing beautifully. The whole park just looked nice. uh
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visit all the parks and every park was fully attended. I was out, uh councilwoman
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park was packed. I think it was a birthday party going on. um it's just a beautiful thing to see that people are outside
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offer. So I want to give a thanks to the council for supporting all those initiatives. and um I look forward to the city continue to do great things around. So,
okay. Thank you very much to all the council members, ladies and gentlemen, both men and
ladies
for your commitment and dedication to your district and you go beyond that. I also want to just say, as we see, at the
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the park is being used and we just talked about the slips so I look forward to that grand opening that's coming very soon I want to just say thank you to all the employees staffs members director members we do recognize your positive accomplishments and your commitments and your robust conversations that you have with us and I'm thankful and it's great to be on team Coco affectionately known as
hot chocolate baby ‸ that's right
so I'm thankful We appreciate you. We love you. Go in peace. And my thing is, enjoy this beautiful weather that we have. because we have many reasons to celebrate I thank you chair entertains a motion to adjourn move to adjourn.
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go in peace