Board of Adjustment

Board of Adjustment Regular Meeting

Date
2024-09-18
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #474
Built from the City's minutes records — no AI-written text Briefing final

The City's record

What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (540_BA_Reg_Minutes_09_18_2024.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • The roll call could not be read reliably from the minutes' text (the reading did not include Dyar, who voted later in the meeting), so it is not stated here; the first page of the minutes is the record.

Adopted actions (4)

  • to approve the September 18, 2024 Agenda as written (moved by Aliano, seconded by Quattrocchi); PASSED 3-0; ayes: Aliano, Butler, Quattrocchi; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 1; the vote on p. 2
  • to approve the May 15th, 2024 Minutes as written (moved by Aliano, seconded by (not read reliably from the minutes' text — the page is the record)); PASSED 3-0; ayes: Aliano, Quattrocchi, Butler; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 2
  • to Approve the Special Exception request for 28 Prospect Ave in the City of Cocoa, pursuant to Appendix A, Zoning, Article XI, Section 15(C)(3) of the City of Cocoa Code allowing “Churches, rectories, parish houses, temples, synagogues, and associated buildings, including educational and recreational … (moved by Aliano, seconded by (not read reliably from the minutes' text — the page is the record)); PASSED 3-0; ayes: Aliano, Dyar, Quattrocchi; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 3
  • to adjourn the September 18, 2024 meeting (moved by Quattrocchi, seconded by Aliano); PASSED 3-0; ayes: Aliano, Quattrocchi, Butler; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 3

Agenda (the City's wording)

No agenda for this meeting was found in the City records this site holds. That does not mean the City published none.


Transcript Partial transcript

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[00:00:00] Speaker 1
Good evening. I'm going to call the meeting to order. If ‸ we could do roll call first, please.
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Chairperson Shea, Board Member Alano,
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Caitlin, would you lead us in the pledge, please? Let's all stand, please.
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States
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of justice for all.
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Okay, first order of business is the approval of agenda
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minutes from last time. I request approval of the agenda for the Board of Adjustment Board regular
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with amendments. Has everyone had a chance to review those yet?
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‸ Yeah. I'll make a motion to approve.
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second.
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Then the meetings are approved as is. So we have no old business. Before we move on to new business, I believe there's multiple people that want to speak. So if we could, can we swear them all in at once? Does that work? If you want to take that on?
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you can all stand, please. And raise your right hand.
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You guys turned one in. Yes, can you
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stand, please? Raise your right hand. You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
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first? I don't remember.
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Well, Jen is going to be presenting this item.
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Yeah.
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That's all right.
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I guess you could present it, and then we'll have people come up and speak. Thank you.
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Okay. Good evening, board members. I'm Jennifer Webster, city planner with the city of Cocoa. And this item is a special exception request. Oh, ‸ sure. It's all right.
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This is a special exception request.
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Avenue. Agenda item number 24-549. So ‸ the requested action is ‸ a special exception request for 28 Prospect
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as a church pursuant to appendix A,
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facilities. The subject property is located in the commercial wholesale zoning district.
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in spirit and in truth community church. The 1.17 acre subject property, 28 Prospect Avenue, is located on the northeast corner of Prospect Avenue and Peachtree Street in the city's commercial wholesale district. It's surrounded by commercial future land use, but is surrounded by a mix of zoning districts, including neighborhood commercial, general commercial, and multifamily. Per the city code, appendix A, zoning article 11, section 15, commercial wholesale district, a church is an allowed use by special exception.
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Gilmore Community Park on the north side.
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Harbor mobile home park. To the east and to the south is more residential central mobile home community.
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And on the west.
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have a convenience store and a more single family residential.
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a mile away from
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in the ministry in
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since 2000. In 2004, they began doing deliverance and inner healing at Friday Road Worship Center in
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later establishing as Extreme Ministries. They are now Extreme Ministries doing business as In Spirit and In Truth Community Church, using both names as many people in the community know them as Extreme Ministries. The applicant has been leasing and operating
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2020, for which their lease expires June of 2025.
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location, which is in the CN neighborhood commercial zoning district, and were notified they needed a special exception to operate there. However, their landlord would not approve their application for a special exception. This caused the applicant to seek out an alternative site at 28 Prospect Avenue.
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this special exception application. They average 20 people in weekly church services. They host weekly Bible studies and host a special speaker monthly, usually a two-day event. Attendance is usually 30 to 50 people. At the new site,
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per month on Saturday and Sunday, just to kind of give you an idea of their regular operating activity. The church has submitted this conceptual plan to build two corrugated metal assembly buildings totaling approximately 2,800 square feet and one 360 square foot storage building to be converted into offices with restrooms. They plan to develop the property in two phases. One assembly building and the office building and associated parking in phase one, and the second assembly building and additional parking in phase two. as mentioned
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all of which is currently permeable as it is vacant land. The commercial future land use allows the development
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storm water retention requirements of the city code, the site must retain the runoff of the water within the limits of the property for parking the 2,800 square feet of assembly area and 360 square feet of office space, as proposed, requires 48 spaces,
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grass surface. The concept plan currently shows 26 mark spaces. There appear to be adequate space for a grass area that would accommodate the additional 22 spaces not shown. The applicant also shows a 20 foot buffer area around the site for landscaping requirements. With the proposed 20 foot buffer and the permitted grass areas, it appears that the site can accommodate the on-site retention of storm water This, of course, is subject to planning and zoning approved engineered site plans. The applicant also intends to use the existing chain link fence on the east, the mobile home, and the north park sides of the site. Screening and opaque fencing is not required by code between adjacent commercial ‸ zonings. However,
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of the the adjacent residential and recreational property uses. In the staff report given,
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2, regarding ingress, egress, and parking, refuse and utilities, screening and buffering, lighting, landscaping, landscaping,
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yards
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and open space, height requirements, renewal and termination dates, and compatibility, and concluded the following.
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noise, glare, or odor to the adjoining properties. Staff finds that a church would be a suitable use
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this location to support the immediate community as a place of congregation, fellowship, and worship.
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of a special exception request for
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pursuant to ‸ appendix a zoning article 11 section 15
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houses temples synagogues and associated buildings including educational and recreational facilities to be allowed to operate as a church the subject property is identified as tax parcel i.d
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243632004, located in the City of Cocoa Commercial Wholesale Zoning District, all with the following conditions. Number one, the special exception shall not be effective until the applicant has, one, secured all the permits and approvals necessary for any development related to the special exceptions, such as site plan approval and
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approval unless the board grants the applicant additional time. And just as a side note ‸ that these these conditions, one through four, have been modified since the staff report was provided, just to condense the conditions and remove any redundancies. And
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added as a as a condition. So going on, number two, if the use is extended, enlarged, or expanded, additional special exception approval shall be required the site plan included as exhibit E shall be binding upon the applicant, except that minor modifications may be made during the site plan review process to conform to the city code for life or life safety requirements. The applicant shall conform to the city of cocoa noise ordinances
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7 a.m. and 7 p.m. and 60 DBA between 7 p.m. and 7 a.m. 60 DBA is the volume of normal conversation any other conditions deemed necessary by the board of adjustment thank you
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Jen did you say that that other securing a lease is already in the conditions or
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was modified after the staff report was provided to you so we just thought it would be good to add that extra condition yes and
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the in the actual approval letter so
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I have two cards here for if pastor don and pastor Brenda Patterson want to come share
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oh
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okay
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but Do you guys have any questions? well let me go to the next card then if you guys aren't going to share anything uh
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you guys
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want to you already swore in if you want to come up and share any of your comments
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um did I need to state my name or anything Demita Gilmore we live at [address]
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and there's been a lot of discussion that we are trying to get single-family homes and redo the area there. So we're just opposed neighbors are opposed to having structures. If it was something like
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a revival
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or something with some tents and it comes back down, but permanent structures, that's not going to help our neighborhood now and like I said we are opposed we have neighbors that are opposed that couldn't make it one neighbor wrote a letter and
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You got five churches in the area and why didn't the area where they're at now didn't approve them to extend their lease. We keep getting things kind of dumped in our neighborhood. that just
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It doesn't gel. And we think that doesn't the nicer people that they are and the things they've done it's just not for our neighborhood. And that's, that's just the way we feel about it. I have we have homes we have uh financial obligations and and we want our property value to stay up and I just don't think that does nothing for us So okay that's pretty much our opinion. All
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right.
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And we are looking to appeal this. So, and
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not because of who they are and what they do, just because of where they are and why, why not continue where they're at? What's so good about where they want to go to, you know, versus where they already at and been there. so it is what it is. That's, that's our opinion.
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Okay. well thank you Yes, sir.
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Hello.
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The media and I, like she said, we've ‸ been there for 38 years and, uh it's a, it's a whole lot of foot traffic already there. The streets already jammed with people. So
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and we don't need no more
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in the neighborhood.
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and it is
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be
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‸ police department.
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And they're being addressed as we
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‸ Yeah, yes. But
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about it is why, uh try to put up a church in our neighborhood that all the neighbors that really don't want it. The park is already flooded with crime. ‸ the police trying to stop all the crime. They're doing a
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a wonderful job. But bringing a, structure, a structure to our neighborhood, it'll make it more, with more foot traffic.
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And we've had city meetings with, where some plans to, to develop that area also into single family homes and redo that
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make it, make those in the home. So that is what our dream is, is to, to have homes there, not churches.
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You know, I just don't see it. That's, that's our opinion. That's the way we feel about it. And we're not the only ones that have that feeling. Well,
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yeah, uh a lot, they, ‸ come to the neighborhood. They do pretty good with the tent setting up. I really, really like that. But, uh a main structure that you're gonna ‸ tear the neighborhood down.
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know, it's nothing wrong with them trying to get a place, but not in our neighborhood that you got older people that couldn't come. They take their medicine this time of day. We got a guy right next door. He can't walk in a wheelchair. uh His daughter, she addressed the, uh the, uh the letter for, uh for my wife to read to you all. And, uh like I said, uh when they come to the neighborhood and be at with the tent, it's wonderful. I look at it and it's already, it'd be completed. there'd be no crime or whatever. But when they put a structure
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there, we already got problems. And the problems is, is the foot traffic all night long, all day long.
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straighten it up. And
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see a church coming in to, uh agree with what's going on. now We need to clean it up before
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putting thing is
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there. i agree with the the terms of them coming with the tent it's beautiful. I sit down and watch and
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a 30-year contract ‸ 30 years, they're going to have the right to come in there and do what they, whatever they feel they need deemed necessary, which is gonna ‸ just squash any other plans for real plans for that community. It's just it's not for our community. We are trying to do home ownerships and stuff like that. And
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we've
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have already talked to people about it. We've had meetings over at the, uh uh the armory over there. uh
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I'd like to talk,
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like to speak ‸ to the, uh you just want to try to get it. oh I really appreciate y'all doing what you do. It really helps the neighborhood come together as what y'all doing. I respect y'all.
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I
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really respect y'all. And I'm not trying to say that, uh your
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to the neighborhood.
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right, sir. I think we ‸ yeah, they had like a two minute limit here. Let me ask ‸ a question real quick. um isn't that a, this is a commercial zone zoning, right? Right here.
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That's correct. So
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it's not a residential zoned area.
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That's correct. It is not a a residential zone.
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commercial future land use. That's correct. ‸ So in ordinarily, and according to our code, a residential use is not, uh would not be allowed as it as it, as
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is. um but just to respond to one thing that
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their current location is their current landlord would not approve, ‸ of them would, would not allow them to apply
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beholden to that lease until it expires in 2025,
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continue, um congregating
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um after their lease expires.
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Okay. And
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that's because, that's because
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zoning district. But again, their landlord would not allow them to get the special exception. So, and then, um one more thing that Mr. Gilmore was referring to about the tents is that the applicant, um holds periodic revivals on the site.
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And so now they're just looking to kind of make that a permanent, uh location for their
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ministry. And
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this would be an opportunity to, if, if the applicants, uh wanted to say anything in response to the Gilmores, um this would be a good opportunity.
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So she alluded to um that we had done an eight-day tent revival there, and um we also fed the community every day. We had many of the people who live around there,
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And there was a young couple, well, they're in their middle age, they live right there in that neighborhood, and they said, we don't go out after dark. And she said, but when you guys came in here, she said,
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She said, the atmosphere around here has changed, and we're not afraid anymore. ‸ So that that's the that's what we want to do. We want to be able to bring Jesus into the city and love and the things that go on that shouldn't be going on there. We would like to see the Lord change people's attitudes there. And that's a big reason why we would like to use that area also. Also, the land owner is very receptive to us. He came from Canada and met with us, and he ‸ was very agreeable to what we wanted to do there.
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Okay. Thank you.
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um So just to clear this again, too, so
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they're requesting just the use of a church was
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not in the code for that, like the the current zoning, I'm saying? that Yes, that's
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correct. For the current zoning of ‸ This is a
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special use to use it as a church.
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That's correct. it's No. It's an allowed use by special exception.
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Okay. Right.
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Not as a principal use.
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Sure. Okay. um Does
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yeah I just have
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a follow-up on Dan's question about the future land use map. So has, obviously, it seems like this is all commercial. This is all medium, residential,
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um Have there been discussions in the future land use map to build out any single family ‸ or, like, are we are we taking anything around there, even though that parcels kind of plan to stay commercial to become residential?
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I am not personally aware of
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about um more single family, this being either rezoned or reclassified as in the future land use as anything residential. i'm I am not aware of okay of that. Thank
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you.
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‸ Based
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on the information the applicants provided us so far with the size of their building and the parking based on the square footage of their building and the number of seats in the assembly buildings, um their their their parking requirement is, as the concept plan is
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is what we allow for for churches. um But we feel that you know that will have to be um hashed out in the engineering
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Right. they They'll need to show that they can accommodate all the necessary parking on site.
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‸ Okay. um
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a motion. okay
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um I'll make a motion to approve the special exception with the city's conditions.
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uh The exception passes for approval with the conditions you said and
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securing a lease. Correct. Additional.
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we need to discuss? for future business? Then I make a
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Is there
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yes. Okay.
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uh
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it's still
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or dismiss?
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I'll second.
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All in favor?
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Aye.
[00:26:09] Speaker 1 · Machine re-recognized
Opposed? All right. Have a good evening, everyone. Thank you.
[00:26:13] Speaker 6 (introduced as “Jennifer Webster” — machine-transcribed, not verified) · Machine re-recognized
Thank
[00:26:13] Speaker 6 (introduced as “Jennifer Webster” — machine-transcribed, not verified) · Unclear audio
[unclear audio — 0:01]
Flag: the machine readings disagree here · 00:26:13–00:26:14 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
[00:26:25] Attribution uncertain
Thank
[00:26:25] No voice detected
you.

Transcript revision built 2026-10-27T12:41:42 · 2,760 ordinary words, 935 in suspect passages, 83 machine re-recognized.

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