City Council

City Council Regular Meeting

Date
2024-09-24
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #453
Built from the City's minutes records — no AI-written text Briefing final

The City's record

What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (508_CC_Reg_Minutes_09_24_2024.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines.)
  • Absences: the minutes print an “ABSENT” heading with no names under it.
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Anthony A. Garganese (City Attorney), Stockton Whitten (City Manager), Monica Arsenault (City Clerk), Abigail Morgan (Public Works Director), Lora Howell (Deputy Finance Director), Charlene Neuterman (Community Services Director), Samantha Senger (Communications and Economic Development Director), Evander Collier IV (Police Chief), Jonathan Lamm (Fire Chief), Jack Walsh (Utilities Director), Tammy Gemmati (Administrative Services Director), Megan Crutcher (Help Desk Support Tech), Jennifer Webster (Senior Planner)
  • Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (13)

  • 1. Agenda: Regular Meeting of September 24, 2024. (24-572) — to approve the agenda for the Regular meeting of September 24, 2024 with several amendments to add a Lead and Copper presentation to Awards and Presentations, to add City Business item VIII.1 to approve a Collective Bargaining Agreement for the International Association of Firefighters; City Business … (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 3
  • 2. Minutes: (a) Regular Meeting of July 23, 2024. (24-571) — to approve the minutes for the Special City Council meeting of July 23, 2024 as written (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 3
  • to approve the Consent agenda (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 5; the vote on p. 6
  • 1. Second Reading: Consideration of final adoption of Ordinance 0 8-2024, a City - initiated Zoning Map Amendment to change the Zoning categ — to approve Ordinance 08-2024 on Second and Final Reading (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 6; the vote on p. 7
  • 2. Second Reading: Consideration of final adoption of Ordinance 09 -2024, a city- initiated Zoning Map Amendment to change the Zoning catego — to approve Ordinance 09-2024 on Second and Final Reading (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 7
  • 3. Conduct the final public hearing for the updated Propose Action Plan for Fiscal Year 2024-2025 and Citizen Participation Plan for submiss — to approve the item (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 8
  • 1. Consider the reappointments of Mr. Elliott Zimmerman and Mr. Milton Norris Park as members of the Board of Trustees for the Firefighters’ — to approve the reappointment of Milton Norris Park and Elliott Zimmerman as members of the Board of Trustees for the Firefighters’ Retirement Plan through September 30, 2028 (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 8
  • 1. Approve the Collective Bargaining Agreement between the City of Cocoa and the International Association of Firefighters (IAFF) for the co — to approve the Collective Bargaining Agreement between the City of Cocoa and the International Association of Firefighters (IAFF) for the contract term of October 1, 2024 through September 30, 2027 (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 9
  • 2. Approve a three-year contract between the City of Cocoa and the Coastal Florida Police Benevolent Association (CFPBA) for the contract te — to approve a three -year contract between the City of Cocoa and the Coastal Florida Police Benevolent Association (PBA) for the contract term of October 1, 2024 through September 30, 2027 (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 9
  • 3. Approve the three -year contract between the City of Cocoa and the Laborers’ International Union of North America (LIUNA) Local 630 Union — to approve the three -year contract between the City of Cocoa and the Laborers’ International Union of North America (LIUNA) Local 630 Union for the contract term October 1, 2024 to September 30, 2027, contingent on LIUNA having a passing ratification vote (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 10
  • to approve Resolution No. 2024-095 declaring a State of Emergency for Tropical Storm Helene, and to add a condition to the Resolution that the City Manager and Mayor may agree to adjust the effective date and time as necessary and to notify Council of any changes (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 10
  • 5. Approve a multi-year renewal of United Healthcare Medicare Advantage Plan for eligible retirees 65 and over from January 1, 2025 to Decem — to approve a multi-year renewal of United Healthcare Medicare Advantage Plan for eligible retirees 65 and over from January 1, 2025 to December 31, 2025 and payments to eligible retirees for Medicare Part B reimbursement. FY2025 Expenditures are Pending the Adoption of the FY2025 Budget (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 10; the vote on p. 11
  • to adjourn the Regular meeting of September 24, 2024 (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 12

Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)

  • $95,000 — Council: Consent agenda item 8, approved with the Consent agenda — authorized up to (a spending limit, not an amount spent). “Authorize the City Manager to contract for and issue payment for the renewal of maintenance, licensing, and cloud agreements for a critical infrastructure system utilizing GSA Contract #GS -35F-303DA in an amount not to exceed $95,000 for FY 2025, and further authorize the City Manager to contract for and issue payment for associated future renewal years (with increases up to 6% each subsequent year) for the remainde” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (508_CC_Reg_Minutes_09_24_2024.pdf, p. 5; the vote on p. 6); fiscal period not recorded)

Agenda (the City's wording)

The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (CC_Reg_Packet_09_24_2024), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.


Transcript Partial transcript

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Allegiance by our
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own fire department, the finest in this land,
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Would everyone please stand, secure your cell phones and pages.
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While you're here, Father God, thank you for allowing us to be another day. Thank you for another day of life, health, and strength. Plus, thank you for allowing us to be in this meeting as we make the sound
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of our thoughts and decisions. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.
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Amen. To the
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of the United States of America
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with liberty and justice for all.
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Okay.
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Proceeding on to item number four. Roll call.
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Mayor Blake. Present, ma'am. Deputy Mayor Hearn.
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Present.
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Council Member Goins.
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Here. Councilmember Weeks. Here. City Attorney
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even get started, thank you very much, Madam Clerk.
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just want to send our prayers and blessings to the Gulf side of the great state of Florida as they embrace or endure the storm. We ask that it really dissipates out there in the Gulf. But anything else, we just ask ‸ mercy and blessings to the people that will be impacted. And we ask it in your sweet son. ‸ Amen. Amen. Okay. Proceeding on to item number 2-1, regular meeting of September the 24th, 2024. Chair would like to amend the agenda, ‸ to reflect, to add a lead and
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presentation under awards and presentations, to add city business item number 1, approving a collective bargaining agreement with the International Association of Firefighters,
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Benevolent Association. It will be under City Business. Item number 3,
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Business Item. Item number 4, adopting resolution ‸ number 2024-095, declaring a state of emergency or tropical storm.
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We got a second on the floor by Council Member Weeks.
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A discussion.
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Okay. What is your discussion, ma'am?
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Well, I wanted to make an amendment. I wanted to move item 5B to City Business as well.
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5B
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is on the insurance. It's actually, it's actually under 5-10.
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No, this is on the United Healthcare Medicare Advantage plan. I have questions around the trajectory of those expenses.
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Okay.
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So, what is your request?
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Which
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is 8, so it would be 8-5.
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Okay. Please. Thank you, sir. Do I need to? Okay. You're going to pass it down? Yeah. Okay.
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Will you amend your motion to reflect that? Thank you. Councilwoman Weeks
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now? Oh, yes. I'm sorry.
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documentation.
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Yes, I
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uh, to amend my motion to...
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I'm amending my motion to move the agenda item 5B to 5 of City Business. Is that correct?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Okay. ‸ To 8-5. To 8-5. Okay.
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Number 510B.
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Okay.
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510B. Okay.
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510B. Okay. Okay.
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know what you mean.
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Okay. Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. You know what you mean. And I'll make the adjustments on my agenda. Chair's
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in favor. Say aye. Aye.
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Aye.
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Aye's have it unanimously. Proceeding on two minutes.
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Regular meeting July 23rd, 2024. What are the wishes? Wish to approve. And motion
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Second. Second by... Which...
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costs.
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All in favor. Saying aye. Aye.
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have it unanimously. Okay. Proceeding on to awards and presentations. Okay.
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and
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presentation.
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All right.
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right. Okay. So
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in other
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words,
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Mr.
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Mayor,
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you
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want
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to go over the attachments? Yes, sir.
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So that was the... That's the first walk-on item. Then you should have what's been passed down to you. I forget the order, but...
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Oh,
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found it. Okay. Thank you.
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Thank
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you.
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I need to tell
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you the
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order.
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What's the order,
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Tammy?
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And then 24-569 is PBA.
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So
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International Association of Firefighters. 24-569 is Coastal Florida Police Benevolent Association.
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Yes. And so
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we've had five walk-ons, Mr. Wash, under awards and presentations, the three items that I just mentioned, and then the emergency resolution for the storm.
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And that will also be under city business? Yes, sir. Okay. All right. So.
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Is there supposed to be something here for the presentation, or is that just PowerPoint?
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sorry, what? There isn't a handout here for the presentation.
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That was a PowerPoint. I thought you had previously gotten that.
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It's available after the, after I present.
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Yeah. Okay.
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Okay. Yes.
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Yep. All right. Let's move forward. Okay. Okay.
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So I'm doing the presentation because we've had some significant changes in rule and law in the state of Florida. Lead and copper. This is the revised rule. There was an existing rule that required us to do some intermittent testing of our water system, which we've been compliant with for many, many years. This revised rule kind of changes the game a bit. So the agenda, I've got about 15 slides.
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This is very high level. I'm not getting into all of the testing details, which you probably aren't really interested in, but just to know that there are significant changes that are occurring that we will, we understand that we've been researching. The policy was adopted, I think, in 2021, effective October 1 of this year. We've spent since 2021 getting ready for this coming week. There's been a lot to do. So we'll go over what the lead and copper rule revisions are on a high level, kind of go through those key aspects one by one.
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during or after.
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improved rule, LCRI, which makes it even more confusing because we barely adopted the LCRR, and they're already proposing to make some changes. Those changes are significant. Again, I have one slide. I don't want to confuse you all, but we'll go through those really quick. Just to let you know what, because some things will be delayed and some things, some requirements will increase. So it'll be even harder to be compliant. I'll go over customer and utility impacts in general, some influence or some issues related to policy because of how we might pay for things in the future. Just, it doesn't have to be decided tonight. It's just for thinking about for the future. And then we can open up for questions during or at the end. So lead and copper rule, as I stated, was adopted in December of 21.
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public and private. So what that essentially means is everything from the main to the meter, we need to inventory what that material is, and we also need to know what the material is on the other side of the meter to the building, whether it's commercial or private, doesn't matter. And just for perspective's sake,
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So we have a lot to ‸ deal with. We have to have a replacement plan if we would have a problem, meaning we test our system for lead and copper. If we would have a system-wide exceedance that exceeded one of the thresholds, then we would have to start replacements at a percentage basis. That could be significant dollars for the utility as well as impacts to the customer. The compliance sampling criteria, there are numerous ones. I won't even begin to go into them other than know that the lab has a lot more homework to do on a quarterly and annual basis. I'll go through a couple of the important ones. The schools and daycares are required to be tested now directly, and so we'll touch on that a little bit.
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their system is either lead or a galvanized required replacement,
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So any three of those categories, I have to send to people, the owner or the ‸ actual property address has to get a letter. That's a lot. And there are a lot of unknowns in our system right now because obviously we don't know, we don't have that kind of detail with respect to the service lines. So just kind of reviewing quickly, the compliance criteria is the inventory, which needs to be published here in October. It's actually between any time between now and ‸ October 16th is our deadline. Okay. So just so you know, we have the database ready.
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We're finding some addresses and things that are just not right
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We have a PO that we're trying to get ready for the printer and also ‸ postage to get all that happening before the 16th.
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collecting data on our service line system when we have to go out to the meter anyway.
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the meter or even just a meter set, if we're going out there to touch the meter, we're looking at each upside connection. And we have a drop down menu and a digital way to collect that data from the folks in the field. and we've been gathering that.
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got about 9,000 identified just over the last whatever number of months that
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out there, probably the last six months that we've been doing that.
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one. We're already out there doing other work. So we touch the meter and gather that information. ‸ Required ‸ to have a letter to go out to all the customers. Again, if they have lead, and right now we have no lead in our system that we know of, ‸ or galvanized requiring replacement, or unknown, they get a letter.
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of its age, meaning we stopped using lead by law in 1988.
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that we weren't using those materials, so we were able to cull that information out of the database, plus what we've been physically inventorying. So that still leaves us with about 65,000 or so in
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loans.
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We have a webpage that we're getting ready to launch. It's ready. It's just kind of in a holding pattern. So when we're ready to publish the database, the webpage will have information about lead and copper, frequently asked questions, those kinds of links and things. Those will be there. And then there'll also be a link, I think, that gets you to the database. People can look up by their address or by a map and go on there and say, hey, what's at my address, if they don't want to wait for the letter.
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It'll be on the website as well. So if a customer, and some people are kind of motivated, some people aren't, but if they're interested enough to put a spade in the ground and look at their service line on their side of the meter and take a picture of it and send it to us, we'll enter it into the database. We'll do a QC on it. If we have any questions, we'll follow up with the customer. If not, we'll adopt what they've submitted us and add that to our database. So there's a way for citizens to be able to help us get that number back down, ‸ get as many of the unknowns known in our system. The last item is there's a requirement to test schools, all schools within five years,
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And so we've already kind of started that process. I believe we coordinated with Brevard County and a number of the other school districts just to look at certainly the upstream and the downstream side of every school system, since there's essentially a master meter at almost every one of those locations, so those are fairly easy to identify.
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about identifying the inventory, both the public and the private side. Those are just little excerpts. They're very similar. One's the internal one that we're using.
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the one that we'll post on the website for the citizens, but it gives you a place for an address. It gives you, you can't really see it real well there, but if you look in the left in the center column, in the middle under the green bar, there's the copper and the lead, and it kind of gives you in color. when you go on the website. You'll be able to see what those things look like. It'll also be on one of the flyers and on some of the information on the website. So again, if people ‸ don't really know, but they take a picture, then we can also identify.
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we're not sure, we'll go out there and we'll physically check it. I think I gave you the current stats.
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We're at 65. So 58,000 unknowns and falling every day.
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Probably, I think we've already done that. And when we publish anything that ‸ we gather over the next few weeks, we'll kind of hold and then we'll update once we get published. So we don't create any confusion. We did identify
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What that means is, is if you have a galvanized line and we can't prove that there was always either another galvanized line next to it or never lead, then it falls into a required replacement. So if
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don't have the history on what was essentially ‸ installed at the time, then it automatically falls into a GRR, which requires replacement.
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Is that because it could be part lead?
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Yeah, well, what they're saying is
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because we have over many, many years, if we encounter lead and take it out. So if we took out a lead service line from the main to the meter, but ‸ we didn't trust your customer side and they're stayed galvanized, then they're saying that there is still a possibility of contamination because of dissimilar materials, and they're ‸ classifying that as requires replacement.
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that's what the rule says.
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I would
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say it'd be really hard to classify. And the reason why is think about a basic service line in a neighborhood where all you have between the main, which is not under the road, and your front meter. might be just a piece of grass, a couple of feet of digging, come up, dig that out. Not a whole lot, little sod replacement
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set, right? If that main is under the road and it's under a county road or a DOT road, now we're just jumped
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and a 50 by 50 ‸ replacement of asphalt and compaction and MOT and so on.
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between the front of their business, the sidewalk, and where the main is under the main road, in front of the business serving,
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Courtney Parkway, you
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know,
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any of the main roads. So very challenging.
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this is
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from the state?
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It's actually federal.
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Oh, this came from the federal? Yeah, it's
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federal, but implemented through DEP through the state.
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So EPA.
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so could be significant. And so that's why the first step is really to identify our unknowns and turn them into known so we can understand and then begin to assess, you know, and gather up, you know, clusters of replacements that are going to be required and then see what those costs potentially could be because every site's going to be unique and ‸ the costs are going to vary from very little to extremely expensive.
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letter there that we've already created. It's a form letter, so it would go out to each address. For the ones that are GRR,
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would be a separate letter that would state GRR. This one happens to state that it's unknown. We have those already prepared. They're ready to go. So the next items are compliance sample
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First round is due in January, so we're required to take samples not at the meter, but on the customer side. We have a replacement plan that's due by the 16th of October.
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trigger, a level that if we exceed in the system testing a certain level of lead, which we never have done, by the way, so we've never had a problem. But if we were to exceed it, it would trigger from the replacement plan.
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Here's ‸ how we're going to attack this So we have that plan ready to go. And then we talked about the 20% on the schools already. ‸ So those are kind of the key aspects. There's a lot more to it. This is an informational flyer that will be available to council as well as to customers that will kind of explain, you know, where the responsibility relies between the customer side and the utility side, which is up in the upper right-hand corner where you can see the house and you can see the meter and you can see the ‸ utility in the dark and in the navy blue. ‸ That's kind of the markation.
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lots of frequently asked questions. So what is lead and, you know,
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So it's just a good informational thing And we'll give that to you ‸ to carry with you as well in case you're asked questions. So just to kind of zoom in a little bit about that was the kind of the materials that will be available to the customers if they try to self-report. There'll be some good pictures there so they can kind of compare. Lead ‸ can look like galvanized when it's dirty and in the ground a long time, but lead has no iron in it So if
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put a magnet to it, it won't stick to it. If you put a magnet on galvanized, it will. So there's ways to determine those very quickly and easily. And that's just a blow up from ‸ the flyer just so you can see it a little clearer. So again, ‸ the connector, the water main and the system owned service line is the city side. And then the customer owned, ‸ essentially either from the meter or if there's a curb stop goes to the house. I'm just going to talk on this one briefly.
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almost immediately upon the start of the LCRR.
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one, which is identify all the unknowns within 10 years.
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within 2037 we would have to have all, and they put the deadline on it. So that's the first thing. It currently doesn't have a deadline but it has to do with the function of your percent replacement. If I have a lot of unknowns and I get into a situation where I'm required to, ‸ replace a percentage, then I'm placing I'm going to have to replace a percentage of all of what I have inventoried or not inventory. So if I can get that number smaller then my percent replacement and the cost goes way, way down. So that's ‸ the incentive to identify the unknowns as quickly as possible. But if the LCRI is promulgated
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goes forward then we have a hard deadline.
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helps us in different ways as well. So that would be our goal.
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if they adopt the eye even though we have the plan ready and we'll keep that ready and keep it updated. ‸ so it just creates a delay. It requires the ‸ goosenecks ‸ to be inventoried so I think I might go back. If you can see that the gooseneck where it says water main and you have that little 90 degree bend between the word water main and connector, that's how they used to connect things They used to actually do what they call the gooseneck. A lot of times those were made out of lead for the really, really early stuff.
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basically they're saying that under the LCRI that I have to dig all the way back to the main to determine what that connection is, what it's made out of. So think about digging up all the streets. Yes. Yes.
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it's really scary. Again,
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would also be delayed.
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even makes it more strict. It's 15 parts per billion.
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So I think we're in pretty good shape. So customer impacts and this is not all inclusive. It's just the ones I could think of, you know, off the top of my head. But if the letter galvanized required replacement lines are found, it's customer's responsibility to replace their service line from their meter to their house or opt not to replace it. So right now it puts the onus on the customer. They can choose not to replace it. But what that does to us is every year we still have to send them a letter saying that they are non-compliant and that they have a lead or a galvanized line that needs to be replaced.
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The customer must be notified and he also must be notified annually. So again, whether they're doing the replacements or whether they didn't do anything, we still have to ‸ notify them. If the homeowner replaces the lead service line on their side, if we had galvanized on our side or if we had lead, we would replace it, of course, but they basically want you to replace both sides, which we would, of course, do anyway. So
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all the way. It's been our policy for years to replace galvanized and or lead
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The last thing I think ‸ I remember finding was a lead fitting,
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or a service line but a fitting, which is a lead solder that was used on the elevated tank when we did the years ago, about five years ago and
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runs right there on Peachtree, right on the property and we pulled that whole thing out.
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did a change order and we got that out. That's the last, I mean, I've been here 15 years. That's the last thing I remember. They ‸ went after the lead probably 10 years before
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and took ‸ out a lot of galvanized at Cocoa Beach and any lead that they encountered. It was years ago.
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in people's backyards
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out in the streets and they got rid of that and got to all the stuff where it should be. And so we're not finding a lot. So like I said, with like 9,000 that we've done in-house, we've discovered 29, so a pretty small ratio relative. So if we kept that same, if it was linear and we said, hey, we did all 60,000 or 58,000, maybe we might find
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and then we could work with that. So, but that's just speculative there. I don't know whether that is going to be true or not or whether we might find more or less. So, yes, ma'am.
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Isn't there, you know, certainly we've used different materials at different points in time?
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installations?
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Yeah, yeah, that's how we started. We basically took all of the data about the house when it was built from property appraiser as well as when the customer became a customer
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least as far back as we can go. If they became a customer after 1989, then there is no lead.
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at that point. And so we can call that from the database. A lot of it is ‸ older than 1988 and that we can't because we don't, we have records of maybe some subdivisions, but we don't necessarily show what the service line material is. It was not a detail that was included and there was no details on the permit or anything else that was issued if we could even find it. So we're kind of stuck with it.
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Jack, I know we did
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I think we invested a lot of money in replacing a lot of the galvanized pipes. I think we brought in a couple of your pipes that had calcium buildup. ‸ so we could actually see it. So yes, sir.
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Yeah. So, and just to think about that, and it's another kind of a nice fact, the calcium buildup that you remembered is actually a way that no matter what our lines are,
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protects citizens from what the pipe is.
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for that very reason. So if you have an old copper, you know, lines in your house and they've been there for 70 years, I guarantee you that you're not, your water,
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drinking isn't even touching copper because there is a solid white coating on the inside of that copper pipe that the water is actually flowing against. So I know I had it at my house because I had to clip off some copper and do a little repair and ‸ sure enough, my pipe had that same buildup on the inside of it. So, so, and, you know,
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It is for the good of the citizens and for their benefit to have that alkalinity run the way it is. and we have permission.
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and that's how we have specific parameters that we test for on a monthly basis and throughout the system. And we are compliant with that And that helps us stay compliant with the lead and copper rule previously as well as in the future. We talked about the continuous, excuse me, update of the inventory. Notifications are also required. Currently, $17,000 to create all the notices. That's just to print the notices and the flyers that will go out. ‸ all decisions.
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which I'm estimating, assuming we do bulk is going to be probably about 20 grand for if it's still, you know,
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It's a lot of money. If there is a system exceedance, the replacement requirement is there
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a percentage that we'd have to step into. So that's an impact to us. That would be a cost to us. It would be an unbudgeted cost because we don't, ‸ that's not something that we can predict per se. Additional laboratory sampling and testing is required for this year. And we have that already in the budget because we knew about that. So, and then,
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which will be, you know, available, ‸ you know, be added to the headcount as of October 1st with the approval of the budget and the start of the new fiscal year.
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because it's really somewhere between an engineer ‸ and ‸ a customer service marketing PR person
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they need, but they need technical skills because this is really highly complicated And there's going to be a lot of things coming at this person, to manage, the database, a lot of different things. So, but that's kind of a high level overview of the, of our impacts. So a quick financial summary.
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of a meter and you have acceptable service line material on both sides, right, on each side, there's no cost. So if I have copper on our side and going to your house is copper, everybody's good. No problem. No cost, no impact, nothing happens. If the city side is lead or some kind of GRR and the customer side is okay, I still, ‸ I'm going to, still going to replace that. Okay, it's going to be replaced. so that it will be an impact. It would be an impact to the utility. If the opposite has happened, if we have copper up to the meter, but your side is either lead or some kind of GRR, ‸ there's going to be a cost there. We're required to notify if they don't choose to replace it.
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So the money is coming down through EPA through the State Revolving Loan Program. The specific language in there, at least as it is currently, because this is all new, states that it's only if both sides are replaced. So for whatever reasons, whether they overlooked it or don't really understand operations, if we went ahead and did the right thing years ago and replaced one side and left the customer side, they're kind of being left out of the grant process for qualifications right now. I would imagine enough utilities are identifying this and I would imagine there'll be some pressure to go back to DEP via EPA and say, hey, you need to revise this language because there's going to be, there's no reason to penalize folks for having dissimilar materials. ‸ And then if both sides, of course, are bad, that would qualify for a grant or a loan.
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And the way it splits right now is 49 and 51. So
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or I'm sorry, may I get it the other way around, 51% is the customer
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So there's some funding available. So with respect to how this might fall out ‸ with council and policies, I think it's important. I think we've talked about these kinds of things before, but it's just another item that's putting kind of some pressure. But when full service line
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needed for the one thing, what I just talked about, that 49-51% split, the first thing that comes to mind ‸ is
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the customer side
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Do we still do a 49-51 split and call it good? That would be the first thing, meaning regardless of the
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we'll take what we can from the ‸ feds and ‸ we'll ‸ put our 51% in regardless of how it actually falls and say, you know, this is done and no cost to the customer. That could be one way. Or we could actually divvy up the cost and then we would need an additional policy related to costs that are over and I think we've heard that before.
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Yeah. So a policy required for overages if it's above the cost and depending on what you might think about the 49-51 split. So that's up for discussion. It's not necessary. I don't need anything tonight. All of these rules are just starting on October 1 and then the LCRI might come on board. but regardless, these kinds of things will come up. What I would imagine that happening is as we get and as we identify, like, say, for instance, if we don't find anything else
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I'll take those 29 GRRs try to do some cost specific cost estimates put ‸ in for a grant ‸ through the SRF and say hey ‸ I want X amount of dollars But prior to taking those dollars again, we need to understand how that split might fall and if there were overages, how we would deal with them. But that would be the 29 and we would group them together. And then we're required ‸ not required but we would want to replace those and take them out of the system And
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those ones that we know come up with some kind of cost estimate and then go for the loan, the forgivable loan
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‸ go forward. so
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Mr. Walsh
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That's pretty
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sir okay
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Yeah. the uh So, when did we find out about the inventory
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of the rule since 21?
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okay we'll publish it in the next ‸ we just started looking at the customer side.
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looking at it because we had to get basically the data structure involved We had to get kind of a digital drop down menu so our supervisors and people in the field could take it with them, collect the data in a form where we could just automatically upload it. So, that took some time to organize that so but yeah we're underway We have all those things in process every day a work order that's out there if they're out there messing with the meter, we're gathering information
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okay ‸ and then the um so
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what is it
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we've been using copper for years
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okay yeah So, all the ‸ Copper ‸ copper
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is fine It's only when copper is, ‸ it gets dissimilar they tend to get into a problem But it's the galvanized lead combo that's the biggest that's a serious problem.
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huh the galvanized because it erodes or because
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used to make the pipe and how it interacts with water and its constituents chemically again with the coating on the inside, I know that our water is safe and I'm but the rule is the rule and so they don't take into consideration whether your pipes are coated by by a calcium buildup over you know whatever
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delivery or however many years since your galvanized line was installed
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galvanized and if you have galvanized downstream or upstream of lead the combination of those impacts and the water is going to potentially create a problem
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they want us to identify it and eventually for those materials to remove them
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Do you know roughly what the age of the system is Like what percentage of homes were were built after 89
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but we've eliminated
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of them
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there's probably still
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we're still going through because there's like when we call the database we're finding errors like we know we just looked at the data ‸ we found some stuff from
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It's because if the address gets messed up, it'll default to a it's ‸ unknown or it's in that pile. So we got to kind of cull through that and still get some of that out So it's not perfect.
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is very difficult to work with Its data is really hard and it doesn't really interact very well with our
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So there's a lot of manual checking and a lot of manual scripts that have to be written to even bring the data across so that we can analyze it
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And can you just throw out like I mean I know each line is going to be different in terms of costs. What are we talking?
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I'm talking about from the city system to the home
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honestly it really depends on how it's situated. So if you're talking about one of the businesses right downtown at 520 you know right by the bridge and I've got to go The main is under the DOT right away
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no I understand that But for most of the homes that are in neighborhoods like we know for example septic to sewer connections what they cost ‸ roughly around 11,000 but more in some cases less than others But in this case, if
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it's just going to be grass and the
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not under the road it's going to be fairly reasonable you know ‸ it's going to be a couple thousand bucks right because you're just digging up grass and
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got some crew time to dig. But if you're into sidewalks, landscaping, trees you know I mean it can get complicated just like any construction and ‸ what happens if you have a
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right out in front of the house
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what
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do we do now? yeah it creates problems So and, you know, ‸ not that they're insurmountable but we have to figure them out and some costs will be more some costs will be less and it really just depends on what's in the way and ‸ you know what's out in front of the customer how far back the customer is you know and what's in between the customer and their meter
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if it's just grass, it gets pretty straightforward when it becomes sidewalk and landscaping and driveways and now you're getting into costs and
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but it's under the road, expensive it's on the other side of the road. now I
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dig under the road
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so I mean it'll be great to have this behind us because we know
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and you know particularly for children so I'm sure and I know we're we need to be promoting widely that if people suspect they have lead pipes that they need to flush their pipes before they drink water because the problems may not be coming from our system but from the lines that lead to their homes
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it's possible and that's why and that's why
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and then required to notify them of course if we happen to find it and it's lead and they don't choose to replace it we continually remind them that's recommended that it be replaced. if it falls into one of those categories where we can catch a grant with it and so on
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for them
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yes
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it is It's in the letter. ‸ explains it
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yeah and
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we'll get a copy of the letter
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I guess we'll get a copy unless you want a copy of the letter you'll be getting a copy of
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letter in about four weeks I think I have the flyers with me. I
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wouldn't mind reading it beforehand so I know if I get because I do tend to get those questions thank you thank
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you knowledge is power And let me say one more thing even though your refrigerator may have a filter you know what I'm saying
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your filterization
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your refrigerator still check still check okay this concludes this concludes awards and presentations we will proceed to delegations we have one card proceed to the podium young man
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mayor this
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is a
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quick issue that
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I think this is going to be the second time I presented it and I think it's very important that we pursue it. I'm also going to try to meet with the city manager to see if it can be put on the agenda and that's about our city ordinances there's some loopholes that nobody has really noticed until some issues have come up which also includes triple x businesses things like that including this is the charter I don't remember when the last time it was that we went ‸ over the charter guidelines I think they also need to be addressed and updated there's issues that could continuously be brought up and cause some issues in reference to our ordinances The other thing too is I'd like to refresh everybody's memory we got October coming up we're probably going to see
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that turned out to be an excellent turnout and
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the golf cart thing I know that we're required I think by federal law to look into an opinion for $30,000 I hate to hear it I wish there was a way that we could keep it with our super attorney and making sure that everything is in order but apparently that can't be done. so that's the other issue that
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let me know and then I'll share it with the city manager if there's any questions that's it thank you
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thank you very much Mr. Greenwood sir do we have any other additional cards for delegation
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we will proceed on to the consent agenda ‸ what are the wishes of council move to approve the consent agenda We got a motion on the floor by council
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all in favor by saying aye
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to elaborate on this particular item second and final reading for item number 6-1 consideration of the final adoption of ordinance 09-2024 ‸ a city initiative zoning map amendment to change the zoning category of 18 parcels of real property totaling approximately 3.1 acres from the city of Coco RU1-7 single family residential to CN neighborhood commercial
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sir and then we will go to you Mrs. Webster
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actually 08-2024 an ordinance of the city council of the city of
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relating to comprehensive planning amending the future land use map for 20 parcels real property within the city of Coco totaling 3.36 acres more or less generally located along Coco Place west of the intersection of Coco Place in North Coco Boulevard ‸ Coco Florida more particularly depicted and described on exhibit a attached here to changing the future land use map designation of set parcels from commercial to neighborhood commercial providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolution severability incorporation into the comprehensive plan and an effective date and legal status of the plan amendment this is second and final reading the adoption hearing for this proposed comprehensive plan amendment changing the future land use map also a public hearing item
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oh Mrs. Webster before you get started has anything changed since the first time
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no Mr. Mayor nothing has changed since the first reading of this ordinance thank
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you very much the floor is yours ma'am thank you
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as previously stated this is the second reading of ordinance 08 2024 for our future land use map amendment for
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Place it's in consideration of amending that future land use map for 20 parcels of real property within the city
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totaling approximately 3.36 acres generally located along
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right around Forest Avenue at the intersection
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Place and North
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Boulevard or US 1 this is a city initiated request to correct an inconsistency between ‸ future land use and the current zoning of these parcels along
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Place which are currently incompatible from a redevelopment standpoint and the goal is to allow the expansion of the current single family use and the future redevelopment of the property so as explained by Florida's Growth Policy Act
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and development of a community and are required to be implemented by the standards established in the zoning standards ‸ this is the reason that in Florida specifically the future land use categories and zoning designations must be consistent all of the parcels
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Place currently have the future land use designation of commercial as shown on the left map however the current zoning district of 18 of these parcels is
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as ‸ shown on the map on the right and two of those parcels are
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upon the city's review of the city comprehensive plan the staff determined that the future land use and zoning of these parcels are inconsistent as neither RU1-7 or RP zoning are allowable districts within the commercial future land use this incompatibility prevents the property owners from any expansion of current use or redevelopment should it be necessary due to loss of property or voluntarily the subject parcels were platted and developed as single family residential neighborhood in 1952 the future land use subsequently became commercial in 2010 as part of the comprehensive plan update to be consistent with the surrounding character and increasing intensity of ‸ commercial development single family residential as a land use is not compatible or permissible within the commercial future land use furthermore RU1-7 is not an allowable zoning district within the commercial future land use it was recently brought to the city's attention that one of the property's primary structures was completely lost due to a fire because the lot is now vacant to
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until the future land use and zoning designations are consistent and reconciled and are established such that single family residential is again an allowable use staff recommends amending the future land use to neighborhood commercial from commercial this category does allow the development and continuation of single family residential use as a part of this correction the request is in combination with the request to also
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referring to
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the request for reassignment of a future land use must be consistent with the city's comprehensive plan policy
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nature and serve the needs of the immediate residential area these parcels are less than 500 feet from other neighborhood commercial uses and are less than 1000 feet from a variety of residential uses 18 of the parcels are currently single family homes and two are homes that have been converted into businesses and are considered neighborhood commercial in nature this future land use supports commercial uses but is transitional as it allows for small scale commercial and small scale multifamily and is in between single family and large scale commercial additionally neighborhood commercial is the only future land use that allows the
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so the staff report covers the analysis of consistency with
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with regard to city services and finds that the proposed future land use map amendment is best designed to allow the current single family use to continue without being in conflict with the future land use and although limited commercial uses are allowed the property use is anticipated to remain single family residential staff also finds ‸ the proposed future land use amendment is consistent with the land use element policies and goals of the comprehensive plan planning and zoning board voted unanimously on september 4th to recommend city council approve ordinance 08 2024 and
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2024
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recommends that city council approve the second reading of ordinance 08 2024
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consistent with florida state chapter 163 to change the future land use map designation of 20 parcels of real property totaling approximately
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from commercial to neighborhood ‸ commercial
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do we have any questions for mrs. webster saying that chair let close this portion of council and turn it to the public
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have something you would like to elaborate on this particular item please come forward to state your name and you have 180 seconds to address this particular item going once going twice
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I close this portion of the public and return it to council what are the wishes of council
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by council woman weeks
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all in favor say aye aye aye aye aye as have unanimously thank you very much ‸ moving on to the second item 6-2
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considering excuse me consideration of the final adoption of the ordinance
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a city ‸ initiated zoning map amendment to change the zoning category of 18 parcels of real property totaling approximately ‸ 3.1 acres from the city of Cocoa
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one dash seven single family residential to
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neighborhood commercial
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an ordinance of the city council city
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amending the official zoning map designation of 18 parcels of real property totaling
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more or less and generally located along ‸ Cocoa Place west of intersection of Cocoa Place
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North Cocoa Boulevard and Cocoa Florida more particularly depicted and described on exhibit A attached
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from RU
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single family residential to CN neighborhood commercial district providing for the repeal prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions severability and an effective date this is second and final reading of this ordinance related to the same property that you just approved for a comprehensive plan future land use map amendment no changes since first reading also a public hearing item mayor
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Garganese thank you as you can see nothing has changed but we'll hear from Mrs. Webster ladies and gentlemen floor is yours ma'am thank you
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thank you Mr. Mayor yes as stated this request is also concurrent with the request to change the future land use ‸ category of all 20 parcels from commercial to neighborhood commercial under
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and assumes that that request again has been heard and granted by council 18 of these parcels are currently zoned RU1-7 single family residential there are two parcels adjacent to US1 that are zoned residential professional the two RP parcels are to retain their zoning as RP is compatible with the neighborhood commercial future land use on the right would be the result of the zoning map amendment if it was approved although those subject parcels have existed in the city since 1952
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for the
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zoning district particularly the lot widths are only 60 feet where the minimum required lot width for RU1-7 is now 75 feet
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which is of a record even if it is non-conforming due to its dimensions to still be developed any new homes that are erected will be required to meet applicable setbacks without needing to obtain a variance not only will rezoning to CN allow the permissible redevelopment of single family uses it would also expand the opportunity for other uses such as small scale multifamily and neighborhood commercial however multifamily and commercial uses would be permitted if and only if two or more of these lots were to be combined in the future this is to ensure that they are no longer non-conforming and that the parcels can accommodate the new development any new development would need to show that parking stormwater and refuse could be accommodated on site without impacting parking on the street
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according to appendix a of the city of cocoa article 21 section 1g
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consistency with a comprehensive plan traffic stormwater and other utilities and public services and has determined that the zoning change will not negatively or adversely affect or impact the neighborhood or surrounding areas with regard to concurrency
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net gain of 27 units this is minimal and is not anticipated to negatively impact public facilities
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because the property is adjacent to a major arterial of US 1 however because the lots are nonconforming in nature the
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unlikely to change and no further impact to public facilities is anticipated planning and zoning board voted unanimously on September 4th to recommend that city council approve ordinance 09 2024 and the city council unanimously approved the first reading of the ordinance on September 10th staff now recommends city council approve this second reading of the zoning map amendment consistent with appendix a zoning article 21 to change the zoning map designation of 18 parcels along cocoa place totaling approximately 3.1 acres from ru1-7 single family residential to CN neighborhood commercial
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please come forward and state your name you have three minutes to expound on this particular ordinance going once going twice chelsea closes portion to the public and
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what are the wishes of council i move to approve we have a motion on the floor by ‸ councilwoman weeks second second by councilman goins chelsea is going to call the question all in favor by saying aye aye aye said it unanimously proceeding on to item number
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conduct the final public hearing for an updated proposed action plan for fiscal year 2024-2025 and citizens participation for the submission to HUD and authorize the mayor to sign all subsequent certifications and agreements authorize the city manager to make adjustments for the fiscal year 2025 budget as necessary
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before I turn it over to our community service director do you want to say anything sir okay the floor is yours ma'am
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thank you mr. mayor of course ma'am as I noted in my agenda ‸ at the May 28th city council meeting we presented the CDBG allocation estimates for the city after the May 28th meeting we received the updated allocations for 2025 and those estimated allocations that were presented at the May 28th meeting was
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and additionally at the May 28th meeting we noted that the home funds also decreased to
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the reason for bringing this back with updated numbers is because of our action plan has to have the updated numbers so we needed to bring this back as a final public hearing to update the citizens ‸ and the council of these numbers and to get approval and to authorize city manager to make those adjustments to the FY25 budget as necessary and to authorize you the mayor to sign all certifications and agreements that will be brought to you after approval of this item tonight no other amounts have changed the only adjustments that we made were to decrease the repayment of the section 108 loan all public service awards that we had previously made for the community services council family promise of brevard central brevard sharing center and
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so
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and to authorize the signatures of all certifications and the mayor to or the city manager to approve any budget adjustments
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all of that afterwards thank you
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you have any concerns please come forward to the podium ‸ state your name make sure you submit a card please going once going twice
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council
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really a question it's more of a statement the public services the individuals that we gave finances to can we get them to do some sort of ‸ update on how their money was spent
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we we receive that on a quarterly basis from them
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yeah just I mean just come to account well or you can put it in information or have if they're if they choose to they can come in and do especially for like the rent and mortgage assistance because I get a lot of complaints from individuals who go to different agencies and those funds are not available and so just for peace ‸ of mind just so that
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so these awards won't be active until after october 1st so we won't be able to provide you with any reporting until fiscal year 2025 thank
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you that it sir councilor calls yeah
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um you said that
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we had to decrease that amount in order to meet the budget requirements
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how much by we went from approximately
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difference okay
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I mean
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last time I checked I think it's under a half a million that we owe now
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I believe it's about six hundred thousand
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yeah okay And we won't be able to raise any of these until we pay ‸ that off that is correct but it would change those dollar amounts dramatically in terms of what we were able to do under the public service yes the
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sooner we can pay off ‸ section 108 loan the sooner that we can provide additional dollars to those public service agencies It was a 30 year section 108 loan so and I believe
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‸ okay thank you any
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other questions thank you
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unanimously proceeding on to item number seven dash one consider
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as members of the board of trustees for the firefighters retirement plan through
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2028 chair like to make a motion to approve
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okay councilwoman weeks okay mrs.
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I mean I'm in favor this is elementary we're doing ‸ We
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did advertise it, but we didn't get any new applicants for this item
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all right chair's gonna call the question thank you gentlemen all in favor saying aye aye and a nay
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aye
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thank you ayes have it unanimously proceeding on to city business we want the first item the first one is pertaining to the firefighters excuse me
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for their contract term October the 1st 2024 through September the 30th 2027 mrs.
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ma'am
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take your time ma'am yes
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sir as you're aware these items are walked on tonight because negotiations have been ongoing and we wrapped up negotiations on September 13th with the fire union and they took it to a ratification vote and they finished their vote on September 22nd and it was they voted complete yes so we're able to bring it to council tonight thank
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you firefighters
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thank you
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yeah it was unanimous vote thank you it's a three-year contract so it's really good for employees to have a three-year contract
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shall I make a motion to approve second second by council
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would like to say anything okay I hear you over there okay the next item is to approve a three-year contract between
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for the contract term of October the 1st 2024
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the 30th 2027 contingent on passing ratification vote
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yes And when this item was written just yesterday they were still voting.
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and I was informed it passed with ‸ affirmative vote only one person voted no
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I'm not exactly sure so I think it was a pretty good turnout So they did it on every shift of their patrol so it was all favorable again a three-year contract so it's really positive for the employees
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‸ once again staff city of Coco ‸ great job both sides of the bargaining table kudos to you where do you look down so if not I'll make the motion move to approve Got a motion on the floor by councilwoman Weeks
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second
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second by deputy mayor
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Just gonna ‸ call the question all in favor by saying aye aye aye aye unanimously proceeding on to ‸ city business item number three approve the three-year contract between
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and the laborers international
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America
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union for the contract
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term
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October the 1st 2024 to September the 30th 2027 contingent on
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having a passing ratification vote and I'm sure they did but I would like to hear from the effervescent yours truly Mrs. tomorrow okay
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this one is a little unique. In order for us to get it in front of council and also get it to the union for a vote, we're doing it kind of backwards this According to our labor attorney Mr. Mandel he said it doesn't matter which order we bring it to council in which order the union takes it for a vote So this is truly contingent on the union passing the vote Their vote's gonna ‸ be this coming Friday
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fiscal year 25. So if it doesn't pass the ratification vote on Friday we'll go back to the bargaining table again and continue bargaining but we're pretty favorable or positive that it'll pass on Friday so
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Okay, what are the wishes of council move to approve
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floor by councilwoman weeks Second by the chair. discussion councilwoman calls
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yeah I just wanted to ask, how does this compare to other municipalities and their contracts like
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7% and 27
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well
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department a lot of our other neighboring cities are increasing their starting pay For example,
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going to
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and they're also increasing the solo paramedic pay so our contract increased it to 53 and
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and ‸ those other cities also did theirs in steps as well
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bigger impact to do it all in one big chunk. so but so everybody's fighting over the same people right
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they're progressive each year it's a bigger increase
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yeah
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so we're also competing with the state minimum wage that passed that's going there's a state statute that passes in 2026 to $15 an hour and so we need to remain competitive with that so when that passed under the state statute a lot of just going to work at McDonald's now right and basic jobs if you see the advertisements the minimum wage keeps going up and up and up so we're trying to remain competitive to hire you know continue to hire employees and keep them so okay thank you
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Proceeding on to the next item, which is item number four city business pertaining to the storm. and This is being passed on from the Governor, resolution of the City of Cocoa and the
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and the potential of tropical storm, Helen to cause extensive damage to life and property within the City of Cocoa, providing for repeal or prior inconsistent resolutions, providing for availability and providing an effective date. as This is from Governor
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Anyone want to expound on this? If not, Chair, make a motion to approve this resolution. I mean, it's standard procedure.
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on where the storm's at and why this is before you, if that's okay?
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Yes, sir.
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So, um
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our state conference calls and county conference calls is don't focus on the track of this current tropical storm. really look at the overall swath and impact that um we're gonna ‸ see. Expect rapid intensification
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This will be one of the largest wind fields we've ever seen. So, just to put that in perspective, uh ‸ current forecast modeling is showing from the center of the eye out will be 230 miles that this uh hurricane will actually impact. So, when you figure the state of Florida from coast to coast is about 170 miles, everybody's getting a little bit of this. So, um the track, uh continues to show through, uh our hurricane modeling, which is
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through the state. uh
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storm force winds. uh gust between 40 and 60 miles per hour. We are under tropical storm watches as of tonight. uh it looks like that those will be changed to tropical storm warnings, probably by, uh midday tomorrow. Timing for the arrival has actually slowed They originally thought that, uh we would see some of these storm force winds on Wednesday. uh it actually now is showing Thursday. We'll see those early Thursday morning with the majority of the impact of the winds and all being later Thursday afternoon, probably around two o'clock. Now, again, just remember once this passes Cuba, it will head into the Gulf. That's when it will be named, uh hurricane Helena. It will pick up speed. If it wobbles just a little to the east more than it is ‸ now, all this is off the table. We will probably see a lot more impacts,
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these are all forecast models. We see this every year during hurricanes. It only needs to make a little wobble to change where we're impacted
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uh They are predicting anywhere between two to four inches of rain as of right now with us getting the outer bands uh with a majority of it um causing localized flooding. uh The one nice thing about it is
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we can absorb some of that rain. Nobody's going to be able to absorb six inches in less than 30 minutes. I mean, you will have some standing water for a little while, but the ground is going to take most of that in and it should recede or move back. ‸ So um those
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The reason we're bringing this resolution before you tonight is prior to uh this morning, the governor had declared a state of emergency for certain counties in Florida.
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declaration of emergency. uh Hurricanes never come conveniently. uh Normally, it's always when we don't have a city ‸ council meeting.
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have things in place for the city manager and staff to make those emergency calls, uh activate things that we need to, uh we're asking for the resolution for an emergency declaration be passed tonight to be enacted starting at 8 a.m if needed tomorrow morning. So our
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uh Thursday morning. So we're trying to be very proactive about it. All of our city departments have followed our hurricane preparedness uh cycle that we normally do when an impact's coming. Fuel's been loaded up, or we're watching our storm drains, uh all of our
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been lowered. So we're still staying in that battle rhythm just in case because we know that we're going to get rain. So this is just another proactive measure to protect our community and our citizens as we move forward.
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Yeah, I know, I know public works and I believe probably streets as well have already um start working on a lot of ponds and getting prepared, right? um But are we planning on doing anything with sand piles this year? Yes,
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so I'm sorry.
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that out on our social media.
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The sand piles are available in the sand
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spots where we have them. uh
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sand bags. The sand is there, but the tools and the sand bags are not there. So, just like we've done in the past, those are open and in the locations that we uh normally have set up for the public. The other thing I would say about that, too, is ‸ just encourage our citizens. A lot of people are starting to clean their yards in anticipation of the storm coming. Please, please, please, ‸ do not put your lawn debris and stuff over the storm drains. That will keep the water from draining off of other people's property and possibly your own. We've seen that every year. So, I know people don't want to kill their grass, but it's better than flooding your house. So, just encourage them to please not cover up the storm drains.
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preparation
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rodeo, and I pray to God it's not our last. But, just prepare yourself. Okay, ‸ we do have a motion on the floor in a second.
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Yeah, Mayor, just one quick question. um The way the resolution, I know we were working on this just right before the meeting. The way it reads right now, it definitely is going to be effective 8 a.m on september 26th yeah you want a trip you want a condition on that or this will go in effect
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Yeah, I would ask that um in the resolution, that that be left to uh consensus between the mayor and the city manager if we don't need to enact the emergency declaration at 8 a.m we need to be very careful ‸ activating it too soon. uh Henceforth, it may be need to be activated at
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o'clock. So, with consensus between yourself and the city manager, allowing that authority to go through you and him to say the emergency declaration will take
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Yes, sir. Absolutely.
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So, you want this upon. um you know, approval of the of the mayor and city manager. I'll amend
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effective, notify the city council.
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Okay. So we'll need to make some wordsmithing changes, but I have to just. Yeah.
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Okay. this is Mrs. Weeks will be willing to amend. I will be willing to amend to those terms. Yes. Thank
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I'm good. Chief, we good? City, we good, sir? Yes, sir. All right.
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for tonight. um
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approve of multi-year renewal of the united health Medicare Advantage plan for eligible retirees
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on this ‸ at
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65 years ‸ I will be 65 years come January, but yes. Okay. And also
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B reimbursement. Fiscal year 2025, excuse me, expenditures are pending the adoption of the fiscal year 2025 budget. Okay. um Councilwoman Cost, you brought this to our attention. i'd like to hear from you. And then we'll hear from Mrs. jamaadi
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Well, we can hear from mr
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She might answer my questions. Or do you not?
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have. This plan normally doesn't have an increase or it's usually really minimal. The government made a lot of changes to to the Medicare plan this year. um that we didn't anticipate it when we planned our budget. So, um they called it
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for this, uh retiree benefit. So, um initially the,
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able to go back to United healthcare and make some plan
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try to get additional quotes because of all the changes in Medicare. um most providers, um declined to quote. And, um it's just a market that, um they, they're just a lot of in changes that are further changes that are
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didn't want to quote new business. So we did get another quote from Humana um when we looked at the hospital coverage and the doctor coverage. um
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retirees use those hospitals that we're aware of. So we didn't want to limit hospitals to the retirees that might need the hospitals, you know. yeah
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So my question ‸ dollar amount of the increase is the total dollar amount of the increase. Is that the 42 902
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The total dollar amount in the general fund or it's split by fund where there where the retiree retired from. some Some retirees pay for it out of their pocket.
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that pay for it on their own. Now they might drop off because, you know, I mean, but they're going to face increases wherever they go because there was changes nationwide.
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Our total increase from current fiscal year to next fiscal year is
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and it's split by well but not all of that is under the city um so
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it's just 90 between general fund and water sewer funds
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think it was the difference was like that wasn't budgeted was like
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I see the
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so now the Part B rates haven't been adopted by the federal government yet so we anticipate those to come out next month we kind of estimate the budget in those and so when the further in the year when the budget is more defined or when the enrollment is more defined we'll be able to figure out if we have to do a budget transfer the budget might be okay we just don't know
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yes
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but what I was trying to get at and I know
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it was 92 and we changed our policy for retirees we no longer have lifelong health insurance
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but
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the executive team still has lifelong health insurance as a policy um what how do you project because you know do we anticipate the 600 000 price tag for a certain length of time? Are we able to kind of look at that and determine what kind of liability does this pose to our future budgets? Well,
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that number is, it's kind of funny. um not really funny. I hate joking around about it.
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so, um like last year we had two retirees pass away in the water department. So their budget, um we anticipated, um we
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so many retirees in a year and and the number actually stayed the same. You know, we did it didn't increase, you know, so it just depends on, you know, but, but as far as the executive benefit, I mean, that director would have to qualify under the definition of retirement and the plan they're in.
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So, so what, I think what you're trying to avoid saying is, is it because the benefit went away and the retirees eventually die, then that number continues to go down minus inflationary increases all
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Okay. And I was just trying to figure out what, if we had any sense of those, of those ages and I mean, insurance people, I'm sure the actuary we have an
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actuary that does analysis on it. um
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the actuary analysis
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the budget. And
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the bottom line is, is that the number doesn't get bigger because more folks are eligible for the benefit. It gets bigger because of the inflationary increases. ‸ But again, the actuaries could actually tell you,
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um
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could project out expenditures into the future. But again, what she was trying to avoid saying was, none of us are getting out of this life alive. And so we eventually die. And the expenses, the expenses go down. and
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government makes more changes. um depending on what, change like in health care there's always changes coming, which could affect, um health insurance. so okay thank
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you so
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sure i'll make a motion to okay
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i'll second all right just gonna call question all babies by saying hi hi hi
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to ‸ keep on living keep on working and enjoy your retirement Okay, reports. i'd help us all. saying uh ‸ Mr. City Manager. Thank
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you, Mr. Mayor. Yes, sir. Mrs. Singer has reports, and I i think that is it for staff. um
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Grand Opening one week from today. At Provost Park, it will be at the beginning of the National Night Out event, which will um is from
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to
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o'clock.
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we'll be doing the ribbon cutting for the new um projects over at Provost Park. and
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apologize. And
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Citizens Academy, sorry. We have uh the same night, we have our first session of Citizens Academy. um and that is
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so we have a busy evening that night um so we'll be rushing back here to um kick off our Citizens Academy. And um if council is able to join us, you're welcome to join us for that, any of the sessions. um But for that one in particular, we'll be introducing our council members to the class. And ‸ I'm talking a little bit about their local government. ‸ We were not planning on feeding. ‸ there will be food at National Night Out. So you can get food there and then
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Okay. Councilwoman calls.
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are we having a... Is there a chief walk on the... uh In District
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will we be able to do that?
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Yes, we're doing that tomorrow.
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And do you know the vicinity? Because there was actually... I got one notice that said it was in Pine Ridge. Then another notice had it located elsewhere. Do you recall that
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Yeah, I'll get that for ‸ Just give me a second.
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Okay.
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tomorrow. Let
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look at my calendar
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yeah that's 5 30. we don't have no rain what's the weather forecast for tomorrow there Chief Lamb.
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We're police also We're not firefighters.
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That's what we're going ‸ to start the walk at, as long as the weather permits. There
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you go.
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oh start where?
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Auburn
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Drive.
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Auburn Drive.
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Auburn. So it's ‸ a completely different neighborhood okay
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didn't receive anything from you. I
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it to
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Okay.
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Well, I don't have video, but I do have... Did you want to say anything or...?
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Well, yeah, I have a couple of things.
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go ahead
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spent time doing that. um So I guess Monica got
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okay ‸ no
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mistake. The, um
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let's see
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Well, let me just make a couple announcements. um the biggest one would be
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should have lots of information for the public, so I'm hoping we get a good turnout like we have in years past. um I was over at the museum this weekend at the Natural History Museum.
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the hour and a half I was there.
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but, um I added up the numbers, and I had that on my report, too. It's somewhere, well over a thousand in the last three months.
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um
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So there's just a lot of enthusiasm there. The other thing we have going on that people can mark their calendars for is Wildlife Fun Day. And you may have seen the article this week about the Florida Wildlife Hospital, that they have been just overwhelmed with with new patients, with wildlife that um
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injured, may be displaced and then injured. And um
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and we're going to host them over at the museum, probably under the pavilion we would hope. And there'll even be some flute music that day and it should be a lot of fun.
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be at 10 30 on Saturday, October 25th. ‸ and let's just leave it at that and we'll add items next time.
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so Thank you. Okay. Yeah, I just, uh unfortunately I did not get a chance to do a visual, which I had planned to, but um
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which we won. And uh of course my granddaughter was part of the color guard and they honored the military that night, which was awesome. And um
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Dinner, where they honored a lot of the businesses and
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Roof, excellent, you need to go. And
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there, so if you didn't know that, best drummer around.
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and I want to thank you all that are here and those that are not. um I have learned so much and it will continue to learn and you all were just a joy. Thank you for being so patient with me, answering my questions, but I'm sure they will continue. But how you're just fabulous people. So thank you very much for your time and all your information. And I will read all the stuff that I was given. um In addition to the uh stuff I already had, um the city manager's done a great job. I know many of you have been here for a long time. Some of you are newer, but uh you're all great folks. So thank you very much. um Also, I've never announced October 9th I'm doing a meet and greet at Lost Lakes, uh meeting with all those folks over there. And
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about what's happening in the city. And uh
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to give out there on that score. So and unfortunately I'm going to miss the night out because I'm supposed to fly Friday morning to Arkansas for my mother's 90th birthday, which happens to be October 1st. And uh so hopefully, Lord willing, this hurricane gets out so I can fly out and go to Arkansas.
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and my flight got
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canceled
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when I was going to visit my mama. So uh hopefully it doesn't happen again. I will not be a happy camper, but that's all I have. Thank you. I love how you said my mama. yeah
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Yeah, girl.
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saw? you'll catch that one y'all yes sir you'll catch
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‸ and i'll show you that's my mama turning 90.
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sisters. That's my
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I know, I know. And that's no work. That's just her turning 90. And this was
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um And I believe it's all ages at Family Promise
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So this day, and I know, I talked to them several times the last week about um some of the kids coming as well. So they really they really want the children to come, but the parents will get screened as well. So
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um it
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really can't take a whole lot of people. So
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to
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‸ you're not there ‸ between that time frame, um that's all they can take. um This is, I'm calling ‸ the wine guy because
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forgot to write his name down. But he owns a business downtown. ‸ it is called
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there for a year. um I'm visiting him this past Friday
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anyone, you know, is in a food for a wine or we have a bunch of different things as well, um please give them a, I told my game a shout out. so
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Where is it?
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It is
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in
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the kiosk at the beer garden. When you walk in the beer garden. oh somebody was
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telling me about him. Yeah, there's, he's good.
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um
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‸ Yeah, cocoa water. um
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the uh little spout on the keg. And um it was very cool. I learned
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was about uh in Germany, but
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the guy gave
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a great history on it. And so I was honored to uh to tap and drink water. Lots of water. yeah
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final phase of
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phase. uh Dog park going in and all kinds of amenities over in District number
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um And so, um maybe probably maybe the next, i'm saying maybe two months or so, they should be finished with that particular phase. I think I've seen some fire guys out there too as well
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doing their
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um final inspection. with that uh octoberfest um
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everybody's all the big kind of
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card. and the
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uh uh
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that
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could possibly be um a help to the park for parking. um It's been there for a very long time.
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maybe the last a few months or so. um I really would like the City Manager to um look into that for the park. Possibly for potential parking. um And I'm assuming that the address
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next to it is 517. I
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gold and then we might regret it down the road. um But it's been for sale now for
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What
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do they
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ask? um
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um But I'm not sure. It's been sitting for a while. You know, and it's kind of a weird spot to put anything commercial. ‸ the way it's the way Maybe that's why it's ‸ sitting on the market for a long time. um
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particular uh property and maybe bring something back to her At least for a conversation. I don't know if
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sure
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you know council thing. But maybe again, i think we can get some information on it. And we see what we
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at another property, as you know, in District
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and District
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We have a park desert. there's another property. that There was a property that was vacant, trying to look into. um I think it's a bigger discussion. If it ends up being, I'm certainly supportive of more parking if it's needed there. But
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who has been after me for four years on this. And every time something becomes available, she calls. We do nothing and the property, usually the property goes. So um I am determined. This has been, it's been on my goal sheet each year of the budget. I'm determined to at least get something allocated for that
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are without parks. And um so I'm just saying I support purchasing that if, you know, that is something that we're going to need. But it also has to be done if we're making opportunity cost choices. It has to be done within the bigger picture.
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Can I chime in?
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uh your concerns on that issue. And um I, too, deal with that.
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each
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that same conversation, uh I know we were discussing
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A
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park at the new uh train station location. And uh I i think it may be a a good discussion on connecting that neighborhood uh ‸ to that park, if possible. So we can look at that as an option as well.
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uh
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thank
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y'all
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for
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So so i I think
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what
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could be a a
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what
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it looks like.
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Yeah.
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um And I don't mind that conversation. We'll see. um So
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though, from all of us.
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Well, I would like to know how much it costs. ‸ So at least we know, you know, what if
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we
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looking at a bargain deal here. i
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got you
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Of course, we're talking about ‸ in the
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um
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I think it's
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but it doesn't come up because it's vacant. But the parcel
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of
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Provost Park. So it is on its own property ‸ prison. ‸ and I think that's all I had. oh uh last
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for tours, but you have to reach out uh because right now we don't have the staffing or volunteers to be there two or three days a week. um So there are opening up for us for Mr. Brown
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And
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Charlene, that that is correct, right? We scheduled through a call to... ‸ Yes,
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yes
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sir. Okay, mine is short, sweet. No photos today. Been on the road, life, looking behind the windshield, which we all can identify with. My thing is making proper preparation for most positive productivity.
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drops. Please prepare yourself for the storm because we are in this season.
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Speaking to the children,
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bring greetings
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own backyard at the Civic Center. So I'm happy to say that we will be well represented from the league itself in our own backyard. They're going to have breakfast. So I am happy to say that I will be bringing a business guest.
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So
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be
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there or be square, but there will be other municipalities throughout the entire state of Florida that are committed to attend the Florida League of Mayors event held in our own backyard. And I'm happy to say we just had our first completion of the board of directors and the executive board of directors,
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And we consummated a contract with our fierce leader, executive director and CEO, Jeannie Gardner. She does a phenomenal job. The league has been in existence way over 100 years. And
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organization. So my thing is
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to all
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please, ‸ prepare yourself. On this note,
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okay
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[unclear audio ▶]
[01:49:05] ▶ Play Speaker 1 + overlapping voice
motion on the floor
[01:49:06] ▶ Play Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices · Unclear audio
[unclear audio — 0:06 ▶]
Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings; the recognizer flagged its own output; a language review questioned the wording · 01:49:06–01:49:14 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
[01:49:12] ▶ Play Speaker 7 · Unclear audio
[unclear audio — 0:02 ▶]
[01:49:14] ▶ Play Speaker 7 · Unclear audio
[unclear audio — 0:01 ▶]
Flag: the recognizer flagged its own output; a language review questioned the wording · 01:49:14–01:49:15 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
[01:49:15] ▶ Play Speaker 13 · Unclear audio
[unclear audio ▶]

Transcript revision built 2026-10-27T12:41:42 · 13,426 ordinary words, 3,376 in suspect passages, 39 machine re-recognized.

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