Okay, invitation will be done by the Chair.

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please secure your cell phone.

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of the storm that's brewing in the Gulf of Mexico, we ask

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Amen.

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and justice for all. ‸ Yes, sir,

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Chairman. Chairperson Blake. Present, sir. Vice Chairperson Hearn.

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Present.

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Agency member Etz. Here. Agency member Goins. Here. Agency member Koss. Here. Agency member Rogers.

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Here.

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Agency member Weeks.

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Here.

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And agency attorney Garganese. Here.

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Sir. Proceeding on item number two, agenda special meeting of September the 24th, 2024, what are the wishes of the agency?

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Motion to approve. Second.

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Second by agency member Goins.

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All in favor to say ‸ aye.

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Aye.

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Any nays? Ayes have unanimously. Proceeding on the delegations.

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have one card on the delegations, front and center there. Woods, that is green. Sir.

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Blake and the board for letting me speak real quick. There's information I gave at the last meeting that I'm going to refer to a little quicker because I've already shared that information. And the reason that I wanted to bring something to your attention is there was a ‸ question asked about what the cost would be about utilizing security guards that I had brought up as a way to maybe save money and also free up the police department for other areas more serious in the cocoa.

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quotes

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enough time to give you the paperwork copies, but there is one group I talked to that is already employed here with the city hall and, uh, they are a little less expensive by the hour, but, uh, they will not commit unless it's a four day work week. Now, in comparison with another group, um, that ‸ I contacted and they're also, uh, of a good class compared to what we have already on at city hall. Uh,

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maybe four days a week. I think that's something that the commercial property group also agreed that we didn't want it to be, uh, too, um, intense looking or having more than just one guard out there just to ‸ be seen that can prevent homeless problems. Uh, people wanting to sleep in the village. If they see some kind of authoritative representation, they'll be less inclined to do it. Now they don't see anything like that. So they're free to sleep under the bridge and on the benches and things like that. Now, I highly recommend that we look into this because for example, the monies that the CRA board was willing to, uh, send over to the police department. Uh, it's, it's a yearly

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And, uh, what this adds up to, for example, the four day work week for this one outfit, uh, is about 40,000 a year.

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they're receptive to, but they come in a uniform. Uh, I told them we really didn't need a vehicle, but

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Uh, this creates a savings of almost half of what the board was agreeing to send to the police department. There's other avenues that we can enhance with this idea. And that means, uh, enforcing other ordinances like noise ordinances and things like that. But they are going to be working with the police department, not independently. That way, if there was something that was very serious, they could very easily call the police and show up. But it's going to be a very good deterrent. I think, is there any other questions that anybody would like to know?

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If not, I'll try to pursue this to see if the city manager would like to have this put on the agenda, uh, for a future date. Thank you.

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Uh, this budget in amount of 72-66 was supposed to be rolled over from the FY23 budget into 24.

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existing facade grant that is completed in this fiscal year, but we have to have the budget in this fiscal year in order to, uh, pay out the invoices.

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reallocate the funds into the fiscal year.

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What are the voices of the agency?

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We have a motion on the floor by agency member, um, Candace

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So this is an update on the progress, and ultimately it's a request to extend the negotiating period to, it will be a request to extend the negotiating period to January 1st of 2025, so this coming January.

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their submittal

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That first page is just some conceptuals that they've sent over. Again, don't park on that because ultimately they have to come back with elevations for the exterior, conceptuals for the interior, and all of those sorts of things there. But again, this is their sort of first blush at giving you sort of a look at what's at least in their head.

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‸ So ultimately the general requirements are you guys will approve a redevelopment project agreement. Ultimately the city council will approve a development agreement.

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review and approval process, and that actually goes up from staff to the P&Z board and then ultimately comes to the council.

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so again, just to focus in on the redevelopment agreement, which is again the first sort of order of business for you all is,

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And I think Phase two kicks in after there's a development agreement.

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council approves a development agreement. But

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which is your document ultimately to approve, review and approve, requires a development agreement with the city. And then it requires an initial approval of a conceptual development plan. And that's really what we're working on now. We're working on the conceptual development plan and or the redevelopment agreement.

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The second one is a site development suitability analysis. And what's included in that are analyses of utilities and stormwater, floor area ratio analysis, and

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a parking analysis. Also, there has to be an economic impact or a marketing study. And then there is the plan for how this development is going to address eco-friendly amenities within the hotel. Then ultimately, the big deal is the conceptual development plan where you get to see sort of elevations and what the project is proposed to look like. Next slide. And so, again, this is simply the requested negotiation to extend those negotiations to January 1. We've been meeting with them. They've given us a site plan, a preliminary look at the site plan. They've given us some conceptuals there. And I'll take you through those.

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proposal as opposed to what we've talked about at the meetings, or at least at the last meeting there.

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the other documents. So

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made progress. Remember that ‸ a pre-development agreement has to have some sort of site plan in it.

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And so south is

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bottom of the page there.

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there, you can see how it would lay out on the site there. The main entrance would actually be off of, help me with that road.

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So it wouldn't face east. The main entrance would actually face west. So if you kind of can visualize that, you can see the parking lot on the existing parcel. But you

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the parking that currently exists

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on the site. The grayed out area at the top of the building would be some of their mixed use requirements. Some of their mixed use amenities. And then I forget, Charlene, if they proposed that some of the parking would be under the building. Yes,

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there will be parking on the first floor, which will be the parking.

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So if you can go to the next slide. And then that's

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to share with the hotel. I forget whether or not off the top of my head if they proposed that that would be a combination of hotel dedicated parking and public parking. And so ‸ that gives you a better look at ‸ that. Next slide. So the room, the floors would be laid out as such. I forget how many rooms they proposed. Charlene, is it 100?

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It's 100 rooms. It's

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100 rooms there.

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can see 19 rooms on the second floor.

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then next slide.

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And that's the sixth floor with the pool.

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Yeah, so it would be six stories. And then it would have a rooftop pool on it.

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Yes, the pool is actually the

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seventh. So technically seven stories. The seventh story being the rooftop pool and the bar. So that's the preliminary concept that we've talked with them about. Next slide or next document. That was the last one on that one, right? Yes. And so remember the ‸ pre-development agreement does require a market analysis or an economic impact. I think the term is used as economic impact. They've done that. It's there. I don't think we've taken a deep dive into it there.

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mean, that's sort of industry specific. And so ‸ they've done that. And I only present that to show you that, yeah, they have been making progress. They have been doing the things that are required of the process or the things that are outlined in the process.

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So I've given Mrs. Rogers a prop. And so I've tagged the pages in their original proposal because here's where we need some ‸ guidance on. Or here's where I'll say ‸ there's a disconnect or room for further negotiations.

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they talked about presenting and they responded with a tribute portfolio hotel. And if you think about the different flags of a hotel under the Marriott brand, the tribute is actually their boutique series. You know, it is the series that is configured, reconfigured, modified, or ‸ made specific to ‸ the community in which it's ‸ cited there. So ‸ they proposed

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tribute. ‸ What our last discussion, our last meeting ‸ was, they talked about something, I'll say less than the tribute, which was, it's probably written on one of those pages in my notes there.

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Fairfield. What did I have? The Fairfield. Yeah, the Fairfield.

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Yeah. And you can see on the economic impact analysis, Fairfield

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It is less quality. It doesn't cost as much to construct. And so I can't tell you what all of the differences are. I just know if you think of different tiers of hotels, that the tribute was a higher tier than ‸ the Fairfield Inn.

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is just the process.

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I'm not, you know, ‸ we are, you know, at the table. We're having these discussions there. What I really ‸ need from you guys is, okay, continue on, i.e. you're going to give me the additional time to January 1st. But also, are we at a hard stop on the tribute as opposed to the Fairfield Inn and Suites, which, again, is on the hierarchy of flags under the Marriott brand. And it is not at that tribute tier. You know, I really

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And you can see on that last tab, they even gave you the numbers associated with building a tribute.

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And ‸ so if we could just sort of park there on that discussion. ‸ And, Mr. Chair, if

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can just open it up to the rest of the board members.

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Yeah. So when did we, remind me, when do we begin negotiations?

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Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And the economic analysis. Can you explain that a little bit more to us?

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mean, did they give any reasoning for the switch?

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Well, it's a matter of their economics.

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mean, their finances, because it doesn't take as much to build a Fairfield Inn and Suites as it does the tribute.

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Except that the tribute attracts a higher point level in terms of, you know, what it's going to draw in. ‸ But, I mean, what I'm trying to, the question is, is there switching based on the economic analysis? Did they decide that, you know, building the tribute here wasn't going to pay off? And, therefore, the Fairfield is more ‸ at the price point? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That, that,

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yeah, I get it. I get what you're saying now. Whether, whether in the economic impact analysis or in the marketing, whether this, this market couldn't sustain a tribute and it could sustain a Fairfield Inn and Suites there. I don't know that we, we did a deep dive into their reasonings. Why?

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just recall that they said that the economics don't work out in terms of them building

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there. But, but we can, we can, we can do a further dive into, okay, tell us exactly why you now feel you have to offer the Fairfield Inn and Suites as opposed to the, the tribute.

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And then I recall there was something that we had a timeline worked out

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kind of, so that we're, we're going to make sure this time we got this thing rolling.

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Well, it is, it is rolling. I mean, again, the 90 days is, is a, is a best guess. You know,

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They're working on projects, other projects there.

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and we, we have schedules and we're sort of

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two schedules meet. And so I wouldn't be too critical of the fact that we're, we're now asking for another 90 days. I just think that, that, that 90 days is pretty generic and not based on the science of anything.

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I'm just wondering, you know, how long did we anticipate negotiation going on? Because the last time, as you know, you know, it just ended up being extended over years.

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Yeah.

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Over a couple of years, um, before we got down to it.

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Yeah. We, and

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I know we're making ourselves available

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this is a high priority. So, um, and I think you explained to me that there was somebody passed away. So that was a part of the issue.

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Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think the leadership has changed. It's the same family.

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we are, uh, we have any issues with either side's ‸ commitment to be at the table there. I just think these things take time, you know, uh,

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developer, um, they're new to us. We're new to them. And so again, the 90 days was the, the initial 90 days was just template. And then, you know, the second 90 days is okay. Let's, let's make sure everybody understands what the requirements are. I think, I think they're there now in terms of, Hey, this thing has to be a conceptual that comes back.

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you've got to

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do all the analysis that I listed in the PowerPoint there. And then I just think it's a matter of, it takes the time that it's, it's taking, um, I don't have any red flags. Uh, again, the only two discussion items that I'm bringing to you are, Hey, in the proposal, they said a tribute. And in the meetings and the negotiations, they're now saying a fair fair win.

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Hey, it has to be a tribute.

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uh, of, uh,

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uh, and it tells you what,

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of boutique, uh, series there where again, it is, it is modified built, um, for, uh, uh,

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And then do they have 30 hotel brands under the Marriott?

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that the tribute ranks number 11 out of their 30 and the Fairfield ranks 24th, you know, they're not, and not to say that again, you know, I don't worry about the exterior.

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can put a skin on, on a building to make it look like it's been here for a hundred years there. But it is what's the quality of the construction? How is it different? How are the amenities different? You can see that even with the Fairfield Inn and suites, they're still proposing a rooftop bar with a pool, you know? And so, and so again, you gotta figure out what it, what it really means to be a Fairfield 24th, as opposed to number 11.

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you guys to say, Hey, Stockton, you know, we're pretty, we're pretty strong on wanting to be wanting this to be exactly as they propose it, i.e. a ‸ tribute. Um,

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Hey,

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to be a tribute, but listen to continue to listen to their ‸ discussion about the differences between the two.

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you back a progress report at the next meeting to tell you how those meetings have gone and how that discussion of, Hey, no, you said tribute. And we, we want you to stick to what you said and, and explain the differences between the two.

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Okay. One last question that the, it makes, I know that they were coming back for, was there an abatement or a TIF?

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Well,

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they broached the subject. I'll say it that

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way. Okay. They broached the subject. So that hasn't changed with downgrading the.

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mean, that's a good, good observation that we haven't talked about.

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Uh, do you still now need, believe you're going to need a TIF reimbursement at the, uh, Fairfield Inn level?

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Okay.

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But we will ask that question.

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And I'm curious, what level is a moxie?

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Oh, okay. But it's the same as a moxie, right? Moxie is one of their brands.

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It's actually not. Or

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it's

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hotel.

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Smaller, smaller.

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It's DC, but, but for, for a guy my size, the mayor's lost a lot of weight. So I'll just say for a guy my size, it was,

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it was,

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uh, tight. Yeah.

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Well, the design on the one I stayed in made it actually as big as a lot of hotels I've stayed in. So. I'm just curious. What number is it? She said 27. Really? Wow. It was really a

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place.

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room was accommodating.

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mean, you know.

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Moxie is

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27. Two steps from the bedroom to the shower,

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know, and you can roll it. You can

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actually

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lift your coffee cup with your toes.

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Does that mean that they, it's number one or which way are we going on the tail?

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worst

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is 30. Best is one. So 27 out of 30 is where the Moxie stands.

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Fairfield was 24 out of 30.

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Tribute was 11th ranked.

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Right. So I believe we'll be here. And if they were accommodating us for the shift and we weren't accommodating, um, ‸ so they. ‸ They

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downgrade. Let's just see if

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I know. Yeah.

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Yeah. We'll ask all of those questions. Yes, ma'am.

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Um, well, I was going

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nice and they actually have good size, uh, rooms.

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at on the scale, but, um, I mean, sure, it'd be nice to have the fancier boutique, but ultimately I, you know,

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either, especially it's going to have the bar. It's going to have the, uh, pool and, and, and all of those things. And I like the size of the rooms of the Fairfield. I haven't stayed in a tribute, so I don't know what, what size rooms they have, but, um, anyway, so that, that's just my take. I don't really have a question so much as saying, I would say, go forward. That's my take on it.

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purpose of us wanting to even bring or entertain anyone bringing a hotel or condo or whatever it is, is to bring heads to beds. Right. That's the whole point. So I, just in my opinion, um,

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because you're still, we're still meeting our goal, which is bringing more people to Cocoa village. That's the goal. And so, and I don't really know

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I haven't seen those numbers on say, Hey, what's the difference between the cost of building a Fairfield is the construction costs the same as, uh, the other hotel, like, uh, ‸ autograph or, or some other hotel. I don't, I

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numbers, but maybe, it may be a little bit more franchise fee might be a little bit higher or something like that.

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but I don't, I don't know that we throw away the conversation of a tip based on

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I think. Yeah. We, we remember we're not even in that conversation because,

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because you have it, you have an ability to create financial incentive programs in your development plan, but we would ‸ have to actually create that and bring it back to you.

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and so, so again, they just broached the subject there. We haven't had any, ‸ any detailed discussions on, on what that would look like,

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because you don't even have a program in place right now. So we'd have to, we'd have to, uh,

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draft that and bring it back for your consideration.

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what it's going to take to get us to, to where we need to be, uh, we've been waiting for, you know, very long time thus far.

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with another 90 days. In my opinion, do I,

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90 days? No, of course not. But I think we're, the way your voice sounding,

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You're not doing what you did before as far as saying, Hey, you know, we got issues. Yeah. I don't, I don't hear that coming from you.

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when you asked for 90 days.

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mean, it's remember it,

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was, it's, it's,

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opposed to the, just since I've been

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under, under me and then some additional time there.

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know, again,

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that I'm bringing to you is not the, the additional 90 days because again, you know, Charlene has a full time job and, and, and again, obviously it includes this, but that's a matching of schedules. That's actually being there on a regular basis to talk and, and to, to get through those sort of things. And so, so the biggest issue I'm bringing to you is, is that, uh, the graphic, the proposal had a tribute and now the, the

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they originally proposed. ‸ And so, and again, I don't know if you get, you know, you get, uh, studs that are 16 inches on center as opposed to 12, you know, I mean, you know, so I don't know the differences between the two and, and again, you know, as,

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still has a rooftop bar and pool, you know, so, so we may not even be able to see the differences, but, ‸ but again, if it is, you know, if it, if it is just a simple, a downgrading from a, from a tribute to a fairfield,

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Yeah, of course. Well,

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either. I think all of those 30 hotels are, are nice hotels. It's not a motel six. Right. And so I think, I think those are, those are pretty nice hotels.

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So I'm open to either.

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Yeah. You touched on what it looks like. And as long as it looks like it fits in the village, I don't really care what's on the inside. Um, I mean, I can't obviously I can't, I don't want grossness, but, but

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either. I think, I think whatever we end up with in under the Marriott name is going to be a Marriott. You know what I'm saying? ‸ I think people have a certain expectation and I think they're going to get that expectation. Um, it seems to me like, like Alex said that you're comfortable with the progress that's been made and the, the, uh, talks that are going on and the, there's no major red flags going on. So that works for me too. Can you, how, how often have you been able to meet?

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Yeah. See, our last meeting was August 14th. I think that was, that was the last meeting. So, so we, we've allowed them time to go back and work on stuff. I think we're supposed to get another set of conceptuals.

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of the meetings.

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Okay. Like

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over the

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last six months you've met what four or five times. Uh, I think it's

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been four times.

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Okay. And, and so you anticipate a little bit more frequent in this 90 day extension to get to where we need to be.

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Right.

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‸ Yeah.

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Um, if just hypothetically, if we were to insist on the tribute, what does that do to the discussions? Are they going to say, okay, well, we can't do that and we're going to go away.

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Yeah. I don't, I don't know. You know what I mean? I mean, that's, that's the, that's the, I think I'll, you know, I mean, I guess they're listening. Um, you know, I think you start with the question of, well, why, you know, and, and let us gain some, some understanding of the reasons why. And they may have said in the meetings, I just don't recall why, you know, I mean, and, and that is, that is, you know, hopefully it's not, Hey,

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uh, a, uh, Fairfield in there. And I don't know that they gave us construction costs here. I think they did give us construction costs. Well,

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even so it's going to be built up to code. So a hurricane is not going to blow it over and that kind of thing. So I, either way. So if my, my vote is Fairfield is fine. Thank you.

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is your light on agency member calls?

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Okay. I'm trying to adjust to the change because they've changed everything from the time that they came and spoke with us. Okay. ‸ I also feel to me, I think it's a little generic and, but you said we can change the skin. I think it has to be more personalized and more unique if it's the changing of the skin on the outside or whatever, because if we had wanted to have that level, then we could have opened it up maybe more to other people, other brands, perhaps ‸ don't know, but this is what we have. So let's try to work with that. But,

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that would accommodate weddings? Um, you know, conferences, or

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is this

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all, um, basically going to be rooms along with maybe one retail. I don't know.

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talked about it. We've talked about banquet rooms there. Obviously there's a requirement to have, this is a mixed use development. So there's a requirement to have, um, commercial office retail.

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Um,

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going to go to the restaurant. I'm not

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sure we've talked about, uh, a banquet room there on the first floor.

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forget what the mixed use would actually be. Charlene, you may remember what they, what they initially talked about. It may be a coffee shop. I

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believe it was a coffee shop, but it also had some, some room space that were, they didn't name what they were. So it could be possible banquet room space. It just wasn't labeled.

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Yeah. Yeah. And

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bar. I would anticipate would be open to the public. You know, so, so

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this is

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what I have mixed use. First floor mixed use on the seventh floor.

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‸ Yeah. I mean, I know that they're, they told us that they wanted to have something very unique. It was more in the boutique. And now everything's changed. Um, so, uh, I would like to know if what they actually have, I'd like to see the economic, uh, impact. On either way. I mean, what

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the average room price? What's the, what does that mean to us? Um, are these parking spaces look like they take the whole street? So how many parking spaces do we have? Because we're going to get pushback if it's all for the hotel and nothing for the public. So just want to, but you know, I'm not negative.

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And remember parking. Was always and is always going to be an issue because the last proposal included acquiring two parcels.

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of our parcel to meet the parking requirements. Make sure I got that.

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‸ One parcel.

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Yeah. So parking is always going to be an issue. This is, you know, again, these are, these are discussions and conceptual discussions at best at this point in time.

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But is this any of this public is what I guess I'm asking the parking spaces we see.

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Yeah.

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much is needed for the hotel. How much could be public, you know, um, whether they would request a waiver. So we've, we've had those discussions.

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And that'll be part of the, the agreement to identify that total number once we are able to do all the calculations.

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And, and remember, I don't want to give away too much of our negotiating position. I mean, I've already put this on the table for them that they have to actually pay, uh, you know, uh, in consideration of receiving the site. They're not purchasing the site, but they would pay into our public parking development fund.

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So, so, so, so because, because remember we have over at Lee winter, we have Florida power and light has done that. And, uh, and, uh, Florida city gas has done that. And so, and so I've said to them that, you know, um, as opposed to giving away the parcel, we're deep discounting it. Um, in consideration of you guys paying a fee so that we can create more public parking in the village.

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his, uh, his LLC still owns that parcel. So. Of

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Well, uh, my concern is

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are along the lines of agency member Rogers. Um,

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I heard someone say that. The hotel is a destination and a hotel isn't usually a destination. Now something like a Moxie might be a destination because it's like. A fun place. People might go young professionals might go to, but. A hotel per se is not a destination in and of itself.

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clientele to be? Or would it be a marketing analysis?

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that's the market analysis. We'll, we'll give you the economic analysis.

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think, I think, um,

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market potential market and who, uh, would utilize the hotel would be more of a market analysis.

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So. Again, I think the boutique, although ‸ hotel isn't necessarily a destination in and of itself. If you have an excuse to go there, you might more likely go to a boutique. It has that attraction.

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And, you know, with, uh, the appropriate skin, as we called ‸ it. Um, but anyway. That would be my concern is that, you know, we're really, we're switching from what is potentially an attraction to, um, just having a place for people to stay. And I guess we're still looking at, I know we had in previous conversations, we've talked about weddings. I know that's one of the possibilities, but the question about what kind of space are they offering?

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they could actually, the right space could also make it a potential destination for an event.

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It depends on the city.

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I think that's, this is a part of the conversation.

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Mm-hmm.

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Rockets.

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Launches. They may see, um, softball tournaments.

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Chattanooga would be a better comparison.

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Charleston. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Six different.

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options. There you

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go.

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You're close.

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It was really swank.

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right.

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what you don't have is, well, what you, what's different is that you have, like, you don't have a closet. You have like these pegs where you put your hangers.

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Put your

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clothes on. I got you.

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don't

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uh, yeah, no, but it, it was really decorated nicely. It was very modern. It's mostly young professionals.

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Right.

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it might not be your cup of tea, but you know.

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So, well, I, I, I brought,

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had this conversation before about things that we want at the end of the day, developers and our owners are still looking at the bottom line. Mm-hmm. They want something to be sustainable for them as well. Not necessarily saying we give up this kitchen sink. I'm not saying that, but I think that still has to be part of our conversation too.

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the next 20 years, how do we expect them to choose something like a Peabody when the Peabody is not showing up inside of that analysis? I think that, so

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wants is definitely important, but I think we still need to have that thought in our mind and put

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in their shoes as well. If I'm going to kick out 30, 30 million, 28 million,

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need that because interest is probably 60 million. And so I'm just, I'm just, I always try to throw that into the conversation. I'm not saying nobody's not thinking that, but it's just, I think that profitability means something to, to, you know, to the owner. So how

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does that price compare?

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Is that,

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that's about right.

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You have a shared space. A's for doing your iron.

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Oh, we need a motion. Someone. Oh, I

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he's

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gonna make

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the motion.

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Oh, ‸ you want, you want a motion?

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Yes. I'm amazing. You all go

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ahead. I

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move that we give, uh, the extra 90 days, uh, to continue to pursue whichever hotel they so desire or what you, what they agreed to. Does that

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make sense?

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Yeah.

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Yeah. To the January 1st, 2025.

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Yep.

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Okay. ‸ We need a second. Second. Okay. Do you have that motion? Um, Mr. Brown, sir. Sir. Okay.

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there, sir.

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Fairfield at least?

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Oh, yeah. Like, like the chart.

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whatever he can work out with them. Yes.

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Just to continue

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negotiating.

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negotiate.

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We're negotiating. Yep. Why are we, you know, why are we getting less than we thought we were?

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Yeah. I

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can do that.

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Okay.

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So,

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I'm going to call the

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that agency member Weeks is planning to attend the

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that is all ‸ right the next meeting will be um monday october the 7th 2024 at 6 p.m at

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adjourn.

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floor by agency member Weeks.

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minutes. I guess. You know what I did say?

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