We will
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Alright,
everyone, join
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to you for allowing us to do all the lines here this evening. ‸ Thank you for signing. I said you continue to
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our neighbors. I said you give us a sound
mind
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that we only make the best decisions on
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Please join me.
I
pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation,
under
God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, gentlemen. Madam Clerk, may we do roll call, please, now?
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Deputy Mayor Hearn.
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Dial.
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Goins.
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Koss.
Here.
City Attorney Garganese. Here. And City Manager Witten.
Here.
Thank you.
Thank you very much, ma'am.
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Regular.
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Got a motion on
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And
a second.
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All right. Chair's going to call the portion. All in favor. Say aye. Aye. Aye.
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Proceeding on to delegations.
We
have no awards or presentations, correct? Just want to make sure I'm not having a senior moment. Okay. Moving on to item number four. Delegations. You have three minutes to expound on your particular item. I have one card in the audience.
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And I'm happy to say he's part of the greatest law enforcement agency on this side of the Mississippi River.
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M-O-N-D-A, round of applause.
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So we thank
you very
much. Thank you. Thank you. I'm honored. I'm honored and thank you for inviting me back home. For most of y'all that don't know, because I don't recognize a lot of faces in here, a lot of new people, but
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every week, somewhere in the United States. Mayor Blake knows this, and I am proud and honored to do so. First of all, I came here tonight to announce our 5K that most of you are aware of. We do a Run for Responders 5K running event every January. It is the first Saturday of the year, which will be this year, January 6th. And it is a nighttime running event. And we raise money for first responder mental health. But really what I wanted to tell you is that
became
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Once upon a time in my career, I suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder, anxiety, depression, and suicidal ideations.
I'm
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a suicide survivor. And when this took place in
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on me.
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they got me the help I needed.
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I will never forget that.
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what they did for me to get me to where
I'm
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at today. With that being said, we are now, after that took place, we formed the Survive First Foundation. And we are now the largest in the nation for helping police officers, firefighters, and other first responders in receiving mental health treatment that they would not receive prior.
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And ‸ thank you for allowing me to ‸ continue to represent the City of Coco. So we look forward to having you guys at the event this year.
It's
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become a really cool event. ‸ We have people come from all over the country to ‸ this running race. And so I invite you personally to come. And we would love to see you there and support it. I know some of you have been there in the past. Mayor Blake, you're always there to help us out. Thank you so much. And good night and thank you.
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Thank you.
Thank you.
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Yes,
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Right? Yes, sir.
Thank
you very much.
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representation, whatever assistance and ‸ the
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you with the city manager too as well, so that this organization is
let
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them know Coco
was
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in the house, is happening in
an old
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backyard and
we
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Yes,
sir. ‸ Thank
you very much again.
Thank
you. Thank you. All right, sir.
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Um,
how about those dolphins, ma'am?
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Um,
yes.
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conduct a public hearing on the final military. We have consent. Oh, I'm
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I?
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I apologize.
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The train.
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Thank you. Motion to approve. Okay.
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I was going to call the question.
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Aye. And in a's? Ayes has it unanimously. Now I can go to public hearing. Thank you very much. ‸ Proceeding on to item number 6-1. Conduct a public hearing on the final
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and adopting ‸ fiscal year 24 budget adopted resolution number 2023-101.
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of
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2023. and ending on September the 30th, 2024. And adopted resolution number 2023-102. Adopting the fiscal
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1st, 2023. And ending on September the 30th, 2024. 23-583. This is the reading for this
particular
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resolution 2023-101, the resolution of the City Council of the City of
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adopting final
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for the City of
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the
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year commencing October 1,
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‸ Thank
you, Mr. Mayor. This is our second public hearing for the adoption of fiscal year 2024 budget. The format is going to be very similar to what we did in the first public hearing. So again, I will state this is the second public hearing for the fiscal year 2024 budget adoption. And millage rate adoption. So in the first slide here, similar to what we stated at the last the first public hearing, the state statutes requires us to adopt a final millage rate for fiscal year 2024 and then adopt a final budget for the fiscal year. And so we're going to take this in two steps, just like we did in the first hearing. Also, in accordance with state statutes, we have to have a balanced budget by October 1st. So when we did our first public hearing, we under trim statutes have to notify the tax collector. And so that first public hearing notification goes on the notice of proposed taxes for the next fiscal year states when and where the first hearing will be held. And then before we had this second hearing, we actually have to advertise in the local newspaper. Uh, we have statutes that require how, what size the ads are. And it says that we can advertise no. Earlier than five days and no later than two days before we're having this public hearing. So I'd like to notify council that that
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So we're compliant.
Yes, sir.
Thank you, ma'am.
Um, so, um, as I
say
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the first step is going to be
adopt the
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millage rate.
And
then the second step to adopt the final budget, uh, as a reminder to council, you can't
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Um, and then the fiscal year 24 budget was developed with the assumption of the 6.9532 mills, um, being collected at 95%, which again,
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So this slide, um, should look
familiar to all of you. Uh, this is a listing of what the millage rates are. Uh, some of the figures have been updated since the first hearing. Um, but if you look at the millage rate, it looks like
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uh, collecting estimated
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revenue of $10.6 million.
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look at the, the millage rate compared to the revenue and we've added, um, the change in the
avalorum
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revenue that each one of these, um, entities are going to be experiencing, you'll see
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And yet they're collecting
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So as we go down this slide, you can see that we're ranked seven
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So even
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to be collecting roughly $2.2 million more. You'll notice on this slide, some of the
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but they're actually collecting roughly about the same as what we will be. And so as we've discussed in previous meetings and budget hearings, um, there's a large percentage of properties in the city that paid little to no and nothing in property taxes. And that's why this increased, uh, millage rate of 0.5 mils is necessary to pay for the increase in costs that we have, which we'll all go over when we get into the budget part of the presentation. So, uh, as with the first hearing, uh, we'll pause and let council discuss this is standard issues. Um, I will state that the total fiscal year 24 budget is $168,949,095. The
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This is 19.3% more than the rollback rate. It's not an increase. It's just saying. Mill
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Our proposed millage rate is
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Um, the reasons for this millage rate, um, that's been discussed in the, uh, public hearing, previous public hearing and in all the budget workshops, um, was for public safety salaries and benefits, mandatory or critical capital equipment, maintaining essential ‸ services, and then to absorb other inflationary costs like electric and gas and, um, just
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of
cost the supplies. And so, um, as we've discussed in the previous meetings, the millage rate, um, didn't even pay for the increases in public safety. And I'll ‸ make note that that's for public ‸ safety, rank and file, um, because we were getting a lot of pressure from the other cities that they're all raising their salaries. Um, salaries and so we have to remain competitive and be able to attract, um, officers and firefighters to be able to come to the city.
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another job is what's the salary going to be? Um, so that's why we, it was necessary to do some, um, significant salary changes for police and fire. So I'll pause here, uh,
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wish. I'll take a pause here, Mr. Mayor.
If
y'all want to discuss, uh, any of these issues.
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Yeah. Could you go back to the slide, the FY 2024 comparative city ad valorem? Um, the, uh,
yeah.
Um, and this one, I mean,
they,
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I'm sorry.
Okay.
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Let them finish.
No, uh,
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something to do with the amount of money needed and collected with the ad valorem. Um, so you have Palm Bay, which has 122,000 people compared to, in
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I forget. But, and Melbourne, you know, has got four times as many people, Titusville, twice as many people. Um, so I kind of feel like this is a little misleading. You know, when we say 2.2 is right in line, well, we have to take those other factors into account too.
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Yeah.
Okay. Thank you. Uh, Mrs. Bowman, uh,
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of Cocoa, where is it at roughly?
Uh, percentage, what I don't know offhand, but it is very small commercial compared to residential.
So, if one way to make the proper modifications to the millage rated, we enhance and increase our building capacity.
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residential too.
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businesses that you do have, like sir, uh, in your city determines that, that dictates that. And that's what we're trying to do.
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You're right. I want
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but productive construction in our city. Provide jobs, a quality way of life. I believe in the conditions of our living situation here in the city of Cocoa. We'd like to enhance it. And I believe in our staff that they do beyond a superlative job. They supersede this so that we're competing and competitive throughout the bar. ‸ Mr. City Manager. ‸ I
‸ think the point of this slide is to,
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has been put out in social media about the percentage change in the tax rate and the percentage change in the new revenues. It's to show, um, that relative to the other cities there. I'm not sure that, uh,
um,
anybody's budget is based on a per capita formula,
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rate is up 7.75% and the revenues are up. Uh, the, uh, property tax revenues are up 25%, but you can see that that only nets us the 2.2 million. Whereas, as, uh, Mrs. Bowman said, the other cities are actually decreased their millage rate and get, uh, if not the same, uh, near the same. And, and, and in some cases, substantially more of revenue than, than we get.
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just talks about rates to, uh, taxes that are derived from that rate.
Okay.
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we have any more questions for Mrs. Bowman? Um, the numbers haven't changed.
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forward and provide a quality way of life and services for the citizens of Cocoa.
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Any other questions for Mrs. Bowman? Yes, ma'am. I'm sure I
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and open to the public. I have a card here,
uh,
Steve Murphy. You're on deck. Uh, you're at the podium, sir. Murphy, excuse me. And then Junior, you follow him. And that is it.
Good evening. Good evening. The wise King Solomon once said that there were four things that's never said enough.
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Though he didn't know about that, he proposed budget ended up taxing his kingdom into ruin. Both the American Revolution and the French Revolution were fought primarily as a result of high taxes from their governments. This proposed budget is almost twice the increase percentage wise of any other municipality in Brevard County. And there's only one that is less than twice that. ‸ While the millage rate is at 19.3% increase over the rollback, the revenue is actually 25.5% increase. The city has amply funded with reserves and cash to operate.
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classification report, which is on the agenda ‸ for today. So why is the millage rate increase required? There's no new services being proposed.
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time. And this deals with how capital improvements are funded. I will also note that it has not gone unnoticed that the last two millage increases have occurred on off election years. I just want to give you one story and this is my next door neighbor.
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for many years. She came to Florida and retired 30 years ago. She's on a
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paying property ‸ taxes and insurance. She's barely getting by. Her greatest fear is that she will lose her house and have to be put in a home. Not because she physically has to, but because she can't afford to live there anymore. Thank you.
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on the list. Mr. George Brown.
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I want to always make sure that I can live there and be safe and enjoy it. And if it's going to take more money, so be it. I go out and have a meal. And it's so much money, I can't believe it. If I was throwing that towards taxes, I'd feel better than having a meal. It's terrible, as you all know. So I'm kind of in favor of bringing the tax up, but I'd like to know a couple of things. I don't understand the percentages and all.
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Basically, how much more than that $1,000 is it going to cost me for taxes if we vote this in? Just generally.
Do you want that to know a front public? I don't know. I mean, it's public information.
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I'm paying a lot more than
$1,000. ‸ I'm just asking ‸ per thousand, how much more is it going to cost me?
Yeah, it just depends on the exemptions that you have.
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mean, this rate is $9 of the per thousand. So.
About $9?
Yeah, but you can't.
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it all there.
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mean, different circumstances.
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So that's ‸ just
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simple math of it. But again, it's much more complicated than that.
Yeah, I realize that. I'm just looking for generally what it's going to be.
And the total change on your tax bill would have been on your notice of proposed property taxes? Oh,
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You already received a notice from the tax collector. Yes. What that proposed tax amount is going to be. And there's a column that shows what the changes.
Yes. Okay.
And on that, there's a lot of other taxes. It's not just the city of Cocoa.
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Or is this separate?
It's a special assessment that it's on your tax bill.
Yes. But I mean this ‸ new money is not part of the fire department.
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up too? Or is that?
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How many?
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Three don't scare me. 30 does. There
are certain people who are junior as you already elaborated, do not even pay property tax. Oh, many don't. Or
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And I don't have all the deductions. I'm 80 years old. I could go for a deduction because of my age and all. ‸ It's not worth all the aggravation to me.
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‸ Because
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I got you. My home, comparable to yours. One part of my home is residential and the other part is commercial. So I get the double win.
The only difference between me and you is I own the whole block. So that's the difference. That's the difference. ‸ But I'm kind of, if this money is spent, especially for our police department, we got to get the price that we pay our officers to start off with.
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For what they got to do. You couldn't pay me enough money in the county to have a job like that. I know what they got to go through. And if I could throw a few more bucks to get some more officers in, so be it. Yes,
sir.
And I don't ever want to have this city say that we're going to do away with the police because we're going to save money and all. What foolishness. Foolishness. I can't believe people.
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Ghostbusters? I mean, what do you do? Are these people, they ‸ want to do away with the police and they have a problem? Who's the first one they call? Police department.
That's right. Police and fire.
And fire. And
utilities.
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talking with. I got, I was, I had no strength at all.
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I was stuck. The paramedics came in and got me and got me down to the hospital. And I'll tell you, I know firsthand how they operate. They were excellent. Excellent.
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to pay a few more bucks, so be it.
So
I guess I'm kind of for it. And I just hope they use it for a lot of the services.
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in the departments of the city hall. To get the permits out quicker. It's going to help us all. Okay. Thank you.
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And I don't, ‸ I don't know if Mr. Brown wants me to use one of his parcels as a, as an example, but I can give you, give you an example. And so this
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And, uh,
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And that's a combination of, um, your taxable value went down on that. And so that's what I meant by it's kind of complicated. I know for instance, someone who was paying $0 last year, uh, and who has probably a taxable value
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But on this particular property that you own, you're
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Okay. Um, that was the, oh, I'm sorry.
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come forward to state your name, sir. Thank you.
So, oh, so I just want to, so I hear, ‸ Alex Reynolds.
Thank you, sir.
I hear 25% and then I hear it's only a $9 increase. Um, is that for those with, uh, homestead exemption? And I was also told that people that have been there for 10 years, it won't be as much of an increase at all. What about for those that have not? And what about for those that are landlords without homestead exemptions?
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So with these that don't have these homestead exemptions, which are most of your landlords and everything else, the rents going to go up. Um, we're
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Um, and I just think this is going to add to it. You know, they're just going to pass on that expense to their tenants who are already struggling to pay their rent as it is. So I just wanted
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But what about the others that don't have those exemptions?
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Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor, um, the only thing I can say is, um, as we've spoken at other meetings, each piece of property is different. There's different exemptions, different values, save our homes. There's a lot of different factors, so it's difficult to be able to give just a blanket answer because each piece of ‸ property is different.
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I'm not, I don't reside in the city of Cocoa.
I
run a business in the city of Cocoa and I'm concerned for my customers. They're already struggling as it is. So I just don't want to see something causing more people to go out on the streets. And if you want to run a property like, uh, 1207 Willow, I used to take care of that property and I know it's for a business that rents out to that house. What would that increase be there?
I
have to look that up on the documentation.
Well, she just pulled up the last one for this gentleman. I feel like it could be. I pulled up,
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That's what I'm asking.
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I actually said it publicly.
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Are you saying that's your property? ‸ You own that property? Yes, I
help
manage that property. I'll be, I'll
be happy to show you how to get
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I'll
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to those folks who are captured by the homestead exemption. And so save our home says that, uh, regardless of how long you've been in your property, um, your increase in the assessed value can't go any further, any higher than 3% or the CPI, whichever is less. Um, depending on what index they use. If you're not captured by save our homes. I think that the cap is 10%.
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by save our homes and someone who's not. And, and, and some instances in most instances, ‸ it would be a landlord who owns a rental property is not, uh, captured by save our homes. So the property, the assessed value of the property could go up by as much as 10% times, whatever the millage rate is, is, or whatever the millage rate is going up by.
Yeah.
All right. Thank you.
Thank you very much. Mr. Reynolds. Um, I just received the card. Ms. Celeste. Um, are you asking about the tax, the millage rate, ma'am? Because we've already passed consent agenda.
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Indian River Drive. ‸ I just, I sat in on the meeting last week, and I heard from homeowners ‸ whose taxes only increased by $49. And I just wanted to at least state my case. I'm on a fixed income, just moved here two years ago. All my taxes jumped $6,000 the first year just due to the homestead thing.
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taxes by another $1,000. And I just want to be another voice to sort of express that. And quite frankly, if that continued to happen, maybe some people in the room would be happy about that. But I can't live here anymore. I just can't. I mean, we're on a fixed income. We invested in this property. And I just want every, you know, I want to have an, an even voice or balanced voice that there's some of us that are grossly impacted by this tax. And I hope it doesn't continue on this trajectory because there's no way I can continue to live here.
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that up and just make sure that there is a, a, a unified voice, not just the ones that are least impacted. So I'm not, that's it. That's all I wanted to do. ‸ All right. Thank you.
Thank you.
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Yeah. I think, uh, it's, um, one of the issues is.
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Because I'm the closing portion of the public in return. Oh,
her and Mr. Reynolds. Yeah. Um, because the people that I've heard from are the people that have recently moved in. And ‸ so they are the most impacted. First of all, in your case, discovering what your taxes would be after I'm sure that I know the people that live there, um, had homesteads. So their taxes were probably a lot lower.
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increase, I think is, uh, those are the people that are most impacted by it in a negative way. And, um, I would like to speak if, but, um, you're going to close out the public portion.
Yeah.
‸ Yes. So I can go ahead.
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Okay.
Um, Alex wants to talk to addressing her concern too as well. I'm just trying to let you finish first.
Okay. Well, that was my point that the people that are most impacted. And I mean, even in my case, it's, we all got hit with the school board as well. So it pretty much doubled the increases. And that is tough for people on a fixed income.
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So to answer your question, Mr. Alex, about the Willow Lane address, the cost difference is $86.54 from last year to this year. $86.54.
Yes. That's the increase.
Yes.
Now that's for Coco. We're not talking about the school board.
You
have to implement that formula too as well. Okay. Uh, okay. All right. Do we have any other cards before I secure this portion of it?
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return of the council.
Mr. Mayor, if I could first, please make a public announcement. Um, as I'm required to do accordance with state statute.
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That the millage
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2023 millage rate. So at this point in time, the requested
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of 6.532 mills for the city of Coco commencing on October 1st, 2023 and ending on September 30th, 2024. And that that's 19.3%
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So then I would like to return to council for them to take a vote, sir.
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I will recognize your likeness's calls. Chair would like to make the motion to approve resolution number 2023 dash 101, adopting the final millage rate of 6.9532
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for the city of Coco commencing on October ‸ 1st, 2023 and ending on
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5.8285. And chairs looking for
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Okay. I will open the floor to you.
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Yes. I was going to say that, I mean, I'm not philosophically against raising taxes. I do support the increase in taxes based on the value, the increased value of our homes. I am really resistant to the rate increase. I think the one, you know, when we looked at the figures, the 1.4 million did really well towards the salary increases. And just like what happened in 21 when we did this, three months later we found three quarters of a million dollars from ‸ a fund that was put into the general fund. So, not that that has anything to do with this, but that was an interesting development then.
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we get from Stantec.
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when in fact it ended up being 16, was it? Yeah. So, I'm pretty confident in what the future looks like in terms of our trending.
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from those people that feel impacted.
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the city. But, at what point, I asked this at an earlier meeting, at what point do we tighten up? Do we try to tighten up?
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the sustainability you know is an issue there and I had really wanted to vote in unity because I feel that this is this has been a really robust discussion that we've had around the budget this year I felt like staff did a really good job explaining this really went into a lot of detail to educate us as well as to be transparent to the public for the most part I think people were satisfied with that but the rate increase just really is is where I have a problem with this so that's other things I've already discussed we've we've already hashed everything out
I do I'm on a fixed income I'm retired I do just like everyone else the five days four days left the federal government ‸ shut down so I may lose my Social Security ‸ okay so so yes one thing I learned in life and it's tough you prepare for rainy days that's what the old school taught me not every day is going to be sunshine so we must plan
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okay
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of property coming online we're getting
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off of, uh next year we can roll this back. But we also have to look at other things that are happening that a lot of people haven't been following. uh this year and legislation was in uh the house voted I believe it was uh 19 to 1 mr city manager on cities can't take money out of utilities. So
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it go to the floor of this session. that's right So
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running. You know,
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up. Everything that you have
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yourself they usually hit the government a little higher. so I I don't want to raise the taxes I don't want to pay more taxes ‸ but it's like mr. brown said
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but I'm hoping next year we get a lot of property online You know, the Amazon paying taxes now, but if they go online, we get more taxes off of them. So
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We have to see the revenue we got coming. It's possible. It really is possible if we get a lot of houses online and paying taxes. that's all I have to say sir
thank you very much sir any other questions
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thank you sir
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All in favor by saying aye. aye and then nay nay Let the record reflect.
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Yes. One nay.
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Council approve of the date changes for two events and one route change.
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‸ Okay. We have to do the resolution portion of this for the budget. For the
budget, yes. ‸ Okay, so, um this is the budget portion of the um hearing. ‸ and
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water and sewer fund has the
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followed by general
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And then the water and sewer renewal and replacement and restricted asset funds. Those are funds that, uh or for, um debt payments and then also, uh renewal and replacement projects for the utility fund. And then there are other stormwater and special other uh other special revenue funds and debt service funds that make up the total budget. So looking at general fund first, again required by statute, we need to present the budget based on these categories, which is how we have to present our final numbers to the state for the fiscal year um after we're done with the audit. So those these categories of taxes, other permits and fees, intergovernmental charges for services, fines and forfeits, miscellaneous, which includes interest, and then
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called other non-revenue or other non-financing sources, which includes interfund transfers, such as the sewer, water sewer, return
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if we had debt, and then ‸ it also includes any time that we are pulling money out of um unassigned fund balance. So looking at the general fund revenues by funding source, you can see the highest uh percentage at 38 of the budget is these other non-financing sources, which shows the dependence of the utility fund, uh the general fund on the utility fund for those transfers that we have coming in for the different purposes. In addition, there's about a million dollars that um we're pulling from
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Then the taxes is the next highest category, which is not just Avalorum, but it's also comprised of utility service taxes and telecommunication taxes.
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14.4 million dollars and then uh you have the other categories of charges for services, other permits and fees, intergovernmental revenue. You can see we're only getting
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uh intergovernmental revenue, which is money coming through the state to the city. That's often based on population um and or um sales tax revenue and things like that. So looking at the general fund
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depending on what kind of capital they have budgeted. um The police department, as we've discussed, has a lot of vehicles that are getting replaced this year. And then the fire department has other things. we've discussed radio replacements that need to be done in this fiscal year. And public works is um being able to get some equipment that's been deferred for many years uh is getting um replaced in this budget. So that's why they're a little higher. Usually it's police and fire and then Public Works as far as their their budgets go. And then the general operations and then all the other departments in the city. so
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in the salaries. And then another million in capital. um And then
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budget, obviously they're totally dependent on charges for services. So 90 of
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is charges for services.
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so their total
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so this slide shows you um by division. You'll see there's a decrease at the top there in administration. That was due to paying some debt off uh last year. So that's why there's that decrease. um And then again, the spending in these divisions is totally dependent on salaries, primarily and capital. And then they've got a lot of inflationary things happening with the cost of their um things that they need to run all their different operations in the utility fund.
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which is another one of our main funds that we tend to look at, instead of charges for services, we uh collect the money on the the uh tax bill through a special assessment
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that and that comprises pretty much most of their budget because they get about 2.2 million dollars in that particular fund. um And then in this fund, there's only one division. So we broke it out by the different categories for you between personal services, operating and capital. um And you see the Stormwater Fund has a decrease in their capital, deferred some spending because of some large projects that are grant funded coming up um and ‸ then
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have about 2.1 million
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in their budget. So
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hearing to hear comments. And then we'll bring it back for a vote again.
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help you to the public please come forward to set your name and your address for us please. You have 180 seconds to elaborate on this particular item, on the budgeting item. okay
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‸ Thank you, ma'am. going twice.
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‸ Thank
you, Mr. Mayor. So at this point in time, the requested action is to approve resolution resolution 2023-102, adopting the fiscal year 2024 budget and
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time, I'd like for council to take a vote to adopt
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Mr. City Manager and staff, City Attorney, I appreciate you all. It is a tedious but detailed information, and I thank you for your support.
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right, moving on to item number
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This is just a uh some changes to the previously approved street closures. um The first one is just a simple moving the event from um October, originally scheduled for October 27th to October 6th, and that's the Village Idiot Halloween Street Party. um And then the um second one is just a, we adjusted the times and the routes to add on a golf cart parade in the village um for Halloween that will be sponsored by the uh historic Cocoa Village Main Street program. And I'm happy to answer any questions that you might have.
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favor saying aye aye?
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2026 23-559. uh
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floor. you Want to make any comments, ma'am? ‸ Thank you,
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you,
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All in
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wants to donate her portion
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I just have a question, and I'm going
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I was just going to say, ‸ I know that there's $800 in my account, and I missed that one opportunity. I think it was the Cocoa Athletic League when the Youth League was here. But I mean, I know there's other monies as well in other accounts, and I think the maximum is $1,000. This will provide food to the Emma Jewell families. So it's been well appreciated, and I think it's something that we would like to support. And I guess all the monies that are left over are just going to roll over.
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So I would like, I'm hoping we could all do $200 or somebody else could add $200 to mine. It doesn't matter. But I would like to see them get the maximum.
Okay. Okay. All right. I think we're all working toward the same thing. Let me ask you something. Let me
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We're down to the last name.
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I'm asking that we have four schools that we consolidate all of our fundings together,
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but Endeavor, not only Endeavor,
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right?
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No, that's ‸ I'm on the elementary. So we consolidate one check. We're going to get the approval from the city attorney. ‸ We're going to go to the city manager first and then we'll go to the city attorney to see that those four schools will equally
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The total budget left right now between all, if you added everybody up together, is $3,000. And ‸ if you
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by four, it
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So, because see, if I isolate and we don't have ‸ three or four more days left, I'm just like kids. Mom,
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‸ I like the concept. I acknowledge her and I'll plot her. But
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be. Say to manager, sir, your comment.
Well, Ms. Jomani beat me to the math there. So it's $750, just to
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to go through to each of those schools for the second harvest food program at those schools. That's your, that's your proposal. Okay.
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I mean,
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‸ I thought we had, we were limited by
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So ‸ we just
need
it
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we've been told in the past,
you
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to edit the motion, um, from the requested action in here.
Well,
I would just,
I thought, I thought you were leaning towards the council actually making the donation
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That's not in the application.
That's not an application.
So
my
point is dispensing with the application, the council has the authority to reallocate those funds as they see fit.
Correct.
That that's, ‸ that's, that that was my point.
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to make the donation.
Correct. Hmm.
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Right. And that's my motion. Second. We have a second on the floor. You
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Well, let me just, the only issue for me would be so many times in the past when people have come to us. We've like, we hang on that policy, but, um, I mean, I'm not opposed to, you know, spending the wealth and
I
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would definitely. Like to see it, um, in the hands of this program.
Yes.
So, but, you know, we're also setting precedent just to keep that in mind.
Well, the
pot, the, so that may give you some comfort level
the
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policy specifically states that the council can reallocate budgetary funds.
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um, um, you know, program. Okay. ‸ It would be within council's discretion to reallocate it.
‸ And
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is ending in three days.
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So,
so my only question was, uh, we, we allocate these funds to second harvest. Are we, are we going to, uh, direct them as far as, are we going to pick up the food? Are we going to have ‸ them deliver the food or, uh, you know, how
we. They normally did in the past because it started with us at Copa high school. Right.
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I was in charge. My sixth period class
‸ was,
uh, in charge of dispersing the food to the families,
not
to the kids, but to the families. And that's the most important thing.
Yeah. And we'll make sure you're aware of how it's set up and arranged. So your city
council's
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aware of it.
Okay.
Mayor, can we, uh, recognize Sarah since she submitted the application? Okay.
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Yes.
Come
on. I think I can also address your question, which is why I'm waving my hand in the air. Um, I think this is a great idea. Let's get rid of all this money and put it in the hands, put it in the bellies of our school children. That sounds great.
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you would be designating four different account numbers, which I can help you get for second harvest. Each school has a unique account number and that money would be then put on the different schools accounts. Now, one thing you may want to specify, and this is really getting into the woods, that money's used in two different ways. One is that the schools buy groceries right from second harvest at pretty much retail,
right?
And have those delivered once a month.
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warehouse every week, load up and bring additional food to the school other than what second harvest does on their own behalf.
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either the schools ordering the retail groceries from second harvest or us going,
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when we go. It'll go a lot further if it's
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you'll do four different checks with four different account numbers. Okay.
So I just add that to you too on
the accounting side. Thank you.
Yeah.
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Aye. In the nays. Aye. Moving on to the fourth and final item. All right. Councilwoman close.
Nope.
Thank you. Thank
you. The
city council provided
direction
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to staff on the operation of low speed vehicles and golf carts on the city streets and sidewalks. 23-605. Um, I do like this. I just want to collect some more data. I'm gonna be straightforward with you. I don't have a problem with it because I, it's in the immediate foreseeable future.
Because
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I'm a firm believer
and
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with all my heart.
I
believe bright line is coming here.
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saying that brother Murphy has departed. I'm still a quote from the Bible, but that's what I know. And
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That is a good scripture quote from the Bible. So I'm appreciative of that. Um, Mr. City Manager, ‸ you want to talk about it?
I just want to collect a little bit more details because at my conference this past Wednesday through Saturday by the Florida League of Cities, we had that conversation, especially with FMIT, the Municipal Insurance Trust. How can we fund this? How can we ensure this so that everyone is happy? Mr.
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Uh, and the city attorney's office actually did the research on this. So I appreciate them doing that.
I
just merely, uh, copied and
pasted
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their research, but the options as I see them are, um, and I'm at the bottom of the second of the third page. It's, uh, you may want to consider providing direction to staff with regards to the following. So on the low speed vehicles and that, that has a certain definition in, um, in a rule,
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miles per hour or less provided that the owner operator, uh, ‸ adheres to the required safety standards. So that's an individual issue with the owner operator. They have to have a vehicle that's in compliance, um, with those, uh, safety standards. And so the council could discuss whether it wants to exercise its authority to restrict the operation of low speed vehicles in any way, such as prohibiting them on specific city roads for safety reasons. And so bottom line with low speed vehicles is, is that they can operate on city streets that have a speed limit of 35 miles, uh, per hour or less. Um, as long as they meet the requirements of, of, of a code of rule of rule of regulations there. And, and that's things like windshields, uh, lights, uh, seat belts and those
sort
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of things there. So, so unless you want to do something different, then that really is up to the individual owner ‸ operator to, um, to, uh, to, uh,
determine
whether or not they're in compliance. Again, um, only on streets that are 35 miles per hour or less. And then, um, Abby, those can't operate on state roads unless permission is granted by F dot. And I think Abby
corresponded
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with them on that.
Yes. I received an email from them and they do allow low speed vehicles as long as they comply with the same requirements. Okay.
So that, that one's pretty easy. That really doesn't appear that you have to do anything with regards to that.
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The golf carts are currently prohibited on city streets unless the city explicitly authorizes their use.
Um, um,
again, I've said, if you, if you wish to permit golf carts on city streets, a thorough evaluation is necessary. Uh, this evaluation should consider, and these are the factors that were in statute, uh, factors like the speed, the volume and the nature of the motor vehicle traffic on the different streets there. And so unless Abby tells me different and we, we looked at a couple of cities are at least the closest city that we looked at was, um,
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Yeah.
They allow, um, golf carts, um, on certain roads and also satellite beach.
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golf carts should be allowed on. You, you have to do an evaluation on factors like the speed limit on the road, the volume of traffic on the road and in the nature of the, of the traffic on the road. So I'm suggesting that such an evaluation would be outsourced unless
Mrs.
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Uh,
yeah, that would need to be.
Yeah. So again, the suggestion is, is that that evaluation would have to be outsourced through some sort of traffic consultant.
Does that require money?
Yes, sir.
Yeah,
I
recognize. I'm gonna recognize
you.
Okay.
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Yes, sir. Who? I think he
said.
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here for.
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it says golf carts are on city streets and sidewalks. We need to
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the sidewalks because I hate to see somebody ride golf carts down the sidewalks in downtown
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Yeah, I've ruled out sidewalks for you.
Thank you.
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it said sidewalks
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That's
all.
Okay, deputy mayor. You might want to reconsider that because you're gonna have folks that
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That's right.
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That is all a different set of laws because you're allowed to go.
I
said. I mean, two and a half miles of the golfing facility. You can have a golfing facility on 524. That's true.
They
have to stay on the sidewalk. Right, right. You don't want them on 524. They can't go on 524, but they can go around the sidewalk. Your neighborhood's getting too.
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No. You take,
uh.
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basically. ‸ You're right there. Well. I'm saying you still got to go 524. That's what I'm saying.
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Okay.
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I got you, brother. I know. That's true. That's why we're working through this.
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Hold on,
sir.
Hold on, ma'am. Hold
on.
Please. All right. Are you finished, Councilman Dow? Yes,
sir.
Okay.
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Deputy Mayor, excuse me.
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But before we even get cited in that order, I'm going to give you a chance to speak, sir.
Very quick.
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Oh, no. Uh, Councilman, uh,
referenced
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State Road 524. So you can't use a golf cart on State Road 524 because it's State Road unless the state authorizes it, and that includes a crossing.
That's why I'm...
‸ Even if you go to a light with a button, I mean, you would have to get FDOT's approval for a golf cart crossing.
Mm-hmm.
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Low-speed vehicles, not golf carts.
different
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Different vehicle. Low-speed vehicles, just like any other vehicle, gets to be registered with the State.
And then, and I'm not against it. I'm just saying that's why we're letting
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Yes, sir.
The D...
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That's all I'm saying to you. Because I'm going
to
hear it from the men in blue, the men and women of blue. We're going to hear from them, too. You know what I'm saying? So that's the only reason why I'm saying to you, just to get a little bit more detail, and so we can make a well-informed decision based on knowledge. That's all. I'm old country bumpkin. Okay.
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this, if we did approve this. I know one of our choices was a consultant, but I would think just a suggestion, maybe an easy fix. I don't know if we have anyone to do GIS mapping.
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If you go
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said sidewalks. I don't know for the new development, I don't know how wide the sidewalks are on 524, but a consultant would come in and look at all of those issues. Again, not discounting golf cart on 524, as the attorney said.
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and they've got to put in special crosswalks for that.
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the analysis and best recommendation. And so this is a specialty area that's out there. And so, you know, just a little nuances that you guys have been discussing is reason enough to consider whether or not an outside expert should be
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I
think that probably would be a good route that would, you know, that would, we
could
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as far as a state, a safety standpoint. But I would also ask if we did take the route of ‸ consultant to give direction to maybe having PD, um, not enforced, but ‸ in charge of maybe inspecting vehicles and
giving
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a permit like other cities do. Normally you go pay a small fee. They
inspect,
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make sure you have your blinkers and and uh, your stop lights and so.
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would, that would be to do it.
If you can show me that in the other cities, they would probably be if we were able to do it, I would say a code enforcement.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we'll, we could take a look
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Yeah.
I
was just going to say that I, you know, when we first looked at this, when I met with the city manager, I was like, let's not overthink it because got a lot of, uh, people in golf carts right now. Um, but he brought up the issue of liability. So, you know, given that, um, a study writer, it's not too expensive because I feel like I could do it. ‸ That's all.
Uh,
yes,
ma'am. Thank you. Didn't they pass a law about golf
carts on the state statutes just recently? Yeah. Yeah.
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Okay. Okay.
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Uh, so the, the suggestion for me is look at Brevard County, um, their ordinance. I think we can follow theirs to a certain extent because our only thing different between us and them is the size of sidewalks.
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um, you know,
forward
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thinking they put eight foot or seven foot sidewalks in. Uh, and maybe that's
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possibly
widen
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the sidewalks out there as well. So, um, but like, like what she said, I,
I,
they're doing it now. Are you any, any Friday, Saturday,
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There are people on golf carts downtown. There's there's, I know I've seen multiple young ladies taking their, uh, kids to school as well. Uh, so it's becoming a way to travel right now. Um, so I think, well, I like the idea of like the mayor said, get more information. But I'm all for it. 100%. Uh, we just need to make it make sense.
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like say, for example, if someone driving a golf cart down Rosa, because it's less than 25, they
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So we have to make sure that the crosswalks are there, blah, blah, blah.
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in because again, no matter if we make it a law ordinance or not, it's going to happen. And I know somebody right now that's getting multiple tickets from other cities. Cause I just want to do like Rockledge did as well, where they, they, they set up only certain streets around the golf cart only. Exactly.
And
that sometimes that, that can, that'll make people think you only care about, you know, one particular area. That's why I didn't, I kind of,
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didn't, I didn't necessarily all the way disagree with Mr. Greenwood at the beginning about only doing it downtown. I want to make sure that it is citywide. So they won't make people feel like we're leaving, leaving the city ‸ as a whole. So, but.
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What do you mean you don't love me? Come on, man. What's wrong with? Kids, even adults act like kids. Okay. And vice versa. What was yours, sir?
Thank
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Um, one thing that I wanted to stress and I agree with every single point that was brought up, but I'd like to try to keep it simple and we could potentially consider
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But, uh, I think because there's already an abundance of people using golf carts in the downtown area to limit it as a, an example of how we can fine tune things, which could keep you from having having to spend any money for surveys or other input from other entities that are more familiar with it.
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You got horns, headlights, brake lights, windshield wipers, turn signals, you know, and that to me is more important. Also, you have to have a driver's license to drive them now. So what they've done in the era and I know that there's other cities that was shared here that allow it like in Cape Canaveral and also satellite beach. The era was the major location where there was an accident and then that's when they changed the rules to driver's license. So rather than kill it right off the bat, let's potentially I hope that we could do it in phases downtown Cocoa Village already the ‸ speed limits there on all the streets are 15 to 25. That's it. And,
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do it citywide. You could allow it potentially in the downtown area and grow from there because it's already being used. There's already ‸ a parade being planned at the end of October by Main Street. Now you're going to see a lot more golf carts just for the parade. Um, and also there's a commercial property group that they're very excited about it. They want it. They support it. Uh, Joe Whitley is one of the members of the commercial property group. And
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property that they work out of and they are supportive of it also. ‸ But rather than to kill the idea, let's start small and then eventually we can grow from there.
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be pocket areas
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other areas of the city that could be allowing golf carts and other parts not. And I don't want to risk any safety issues here. I think it's safer to keep it in the boundaries of the village and start from there. And then we can learn from that as well.
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something that you all would consider because this is something that everybody's very excited about. Very excited about. I hope that you would reconsider and limit it strictly to the downtown area where we can grow from there. Thank you. Thank you.
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Um,
quick.
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what I've seen in the past. We start something and it never comes to fruition later on. And so I don't know how the council may look in three years, four years, whatever it may be. I just, I don't feel comfortable making something temporarily in one area and not as a starting point. I know, but I just don't like it. I just, that just my, I just, that's just me speaking.
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That's why we're here.
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So, um, ‸ again, I think everybody is. In agreeance that I think
everybody's
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supporting and nobody is saying, no, we just saying. I'm so trying to
prevent ‸ the right delay. I got also since the downtown area is the slowest speed limits in the city.
Right.
To have that many streets and there are people already doing it and I don't want to hear anybody getting a ticket.
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downtown. I don't like the idea of using sidewalks also strictly the streets. And I think that the reason why some of the people are using the sidewalks is because they know they're really not legal and they're trying to be out of the way of the cars. But I ‸ really feel ‸ that if it's presented, that it's a test, a starting point, even just that. It's not something that is in concrete done because it's something that we could use and learn from if we start small. Okay. And it won't be as difficult. All the streets are slow already.
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I
got ‸ one. Okay.
I just got one thing and
I'm finished.
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not in a rush.
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That's true.
This is not a deadline. We're not on
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timeline. To me, just give the staff and the
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the opportunity to work together to come up with
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plan that
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is universal. Because I don't want
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thing. And then
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square saying another thing. And the downtown area saying another thing. And let's
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the board. Collect your data, come up with a reasonable and equitable decision. That's all I'm saying.
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to
move on this tonight, ladies and gentlemen.
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Oh,
‸ my light on.
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I
just had a question. This war may be a city attorney question.
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don't have as of today, it's not legal to have golf
carts.
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Is it different for events to take place? Which I'm all for the event. I'm just asking the question because I'm pretty sure. So I'm just. We do it now, so I'm just don't you know,
if the special event is a certain geographical area that's defined and it's cordoned off for for the event. I mean, I think that would be OK. I think it's when you introduce a golf cart along with other traffic on a routine basis where, you know, the law certainly applies
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the law requires that there be a determination made by this body that golf carts can safely
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Gotcha.
And, you know, in Cape Canaveral, they looked at it and, you know, some areas they said no. The consultant came back and said no. In other areas they ‸ laid out a grid. For golf carts and their professional opinion could be safely operated. So you end up with like ‸ a golf cart map of certain streets and areas. There's going to be undoubtedly interconnectivity issues as well. You know, some some areas may not be able to connect. ‸ Thank you.
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Also, one more thing. You have two neighborhoods to have homeowners associations allow golf carts that are gated. One of them
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example.
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they got a discount to go eat up there. And like I said, I have a golfing facility, which makes it legal in the state of Florida to drive your golf carts around it.
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have their own association in their area.
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got a golf cart there. So you
got to
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be very careful. You can't take that away from them because they've already got it in place.
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there are lots of golf carts up and down Indian River Drive from High
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doing that for four years. And it's 25 miles per hour, just like the village.
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But if they have a consultant, maybe we can get their consultant from Cape Canaveral and get this done quickly. No, they had to hire a consultant. You
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got
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There's a lead anyway. Oh, they hired one. Yeah.
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Can
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city manager to move forward on this in reference of acquiring more additional information in the city of Cape Canaveral what was the other satellite beach consultant I'm
not sure what satellite beach did but I just received from the purchasing manager ‸ excuse me the planning manager at the senior planner at
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okay yeah I mean
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‸ to us because like see you have to take a consideration if I'm going across 520 if I'm going across US 1
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which is a county road is Boulevard I mean is a county road this
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county road too I can't remember
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oh it is. So we have to take all that in consideration. And you're right. There's a young lady I see every morning
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a scooter That's commitment.
‸ there's
another family, another lady, make all of her kids put their hand on the baby carriage and they push that carriage to take those kids to school even though I'm just saying the commitment and dedication of people
wanted
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to do the right thing. And that's what we want to do.
The
right thing. I'm in no rush
yes sir and
we're not going to please everyone well but that's so country song says you might as well please yourself. It's going to become
pocket areas because
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They're not going to be able to drive on that.
Okay.
Thank you. Thank you. everyone
Thank you. So uh my suggestion,
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we let the city manager and staff come back with some more additional information is that a fair consensus ladies and gentlemen yes okay
yes would it can I get a
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Yes. Yes. Okay. Thank you. guys sir. Sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Okay. Fire chief. This is the last item for
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program sponsored by the Florida Division of
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identifying risk in their organization and develop, excuse me, and develop clear action plans that will help evade those risks while ‸ streamlining the public assistant process I don't have a problem with this sir um the floor is yours and then I will entertain a motion from council go ahead sir
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said
yes sir
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reports. ‸ City Manager, floor is yours sir.
‸ Can I ask a question to Mrs. Singer? Yes sir, yes sir, we're going to get out of here. Very good. And thank you council for being conscientious of time.
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Am I saying that right? Yes sir. Sip and stroll, that's this coming Saturday? This weekend?
Correct. Yes. Yes
ma'am, okay.
It's on Saturday, yes. I couldn't remember if
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I just want people to be aware of it and it's
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that's
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Yes sir, yeah, you can go around and visit with each of the merchants who are participating in the event.
You
go in, you visit with them, they give you either some sort of drink or food and you can shop with them. They're offering specials and discounts and stuff like that.
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District 1, sir.
Tickets go fast. Tickets go fast,
yes. So make sure you go onto their website and yeah.
They're already sold out.
That's all. Okay, thank you ma'am. Yes sir. You did well. Hey, what other thing? Fands up?
Yes sir.
How about those dolphins?
It's a good time to be a Dolphins fan.
Playoffs.
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Yes sir, the city management.
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little bit about Brightline sir. Maybe this past Friday.
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event and great for us because they said once they got Orlando operational, then we can sit at
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And so we're looking forward to that. It was a great event. You know, as you guys can remember from the tour that we took, they do everything sort of first class ‸ with that sort of entertainment flair. And so, uh, it was a, it was a good event and, and, uh, happy to see that station come on board so that we can, we can put on the, uh, continue to put on the full court press for, for a Cocoa station.
Thank
you sir. Thank you very much.
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No
report. Uh, Mrs.
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where does the, um, Brightline start at where, what city?
Orlando.
And where does it end at? How far south does it go to?
Miami. Okay. Thank you.
‸ What's in Miami?
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Thank
you
ma'am. And thank you sir. I appreciate it. Let me get back on task. So I won't get in trouble. All right. Um, we've done everyone. So we've done ‸ city manager, ‸ city attorney. It's up to council now, correct? Yep. Tell me ‸ what order do I proceed in sir?
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So it's quite an eventful weekend. Uh, as you can see the purple, I knew that was your color too. I made sure they knew. Um, I was able to attend the walk to end Alzheimer's disease. Uh, so I represented for the city of Cocoa there. I have to say this is one of the nicest event we had downtown so far.
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was well put together. Great event and for a great cause. Um, so I got some pictures.
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Yeah,
definitely was well represented. Um, I like that there. I was wondering we can
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myself and a couple, uh, ‸ representatives from the event. Uh, this is a check from the state.
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almost $500,000 I presented for that cause. Uh,
so
it was definitely a great event and it
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Great feedback. Uh, everybody loved, uh, the village. Um, so we were, we were
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I wish. Maybe after knee surgery or something. Uh, something else I wanted to talk, let's see.
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Uh, I don't think they came through. ‸ Okay, so the other ones didn't come. The other pictures I had, I was going to show of Anderson Park.
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had allocated money for, uh, some parks, uh, uh, upgrades and one, I guess it was signage. Uh, we talked about, uh, replacing the basketball, uh, goals at Anderson Park. And, um, so I just wanted to follow up on ‸ that where we were at regards to Anderson Park.
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update on that?
Uh, no, I reached out to Brevard County for an update.
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Uh, something else I wanted to talk about since we're coming to the end of budget, uh, budget year. Um, we just ‸ passed everything for the budget and I just wanted this to be on the radar for next year. Um, so we wouldn't have to necessarily come out of our pockets. We could probably reach out to our representative on help for this, but
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Uh, it's one of the issues we talked about property taxes. We need ‸ more businesses here.
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one, uh, Dixon. We have a number of, uh, commercial buildings that are sitting empty. Uh, some of them been empty probably for about 10 years now. Um, you don't see any for rent signs, any lease for sale signs. So, um, I would like for staff if council is an agreeance and this isn't something that has to be urgent.
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properties. I don't know if we still maintain, uh, the commercial properties is vacant, but I wanted to put those lists, get that list together. Um, see if we could collaborate with the owners, see if they're willing to lease these properties out and maybe the city can, uh, help advertise those properties to try to bring businesses in to, uh, rent out these buildings and bring businesses here. Um, I also want to thank us.
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ideas, some incentives that we can give businesses small or big, uh, to come in and, uh, take over some of these buildings. Um,
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uh, if a restaurant came in, incentivizes the incentivizing the restaurant for grease traps, uh, setups like that, uh, to help try to attract those businesses. Um, and I think I brought it up before the vacant property tax. Uh, is that something we could do to try to motivate, uh, some of these owners to come off these ‸ properties
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to someone that wants to bring a
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So,
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up with this, uh, when we come into our planning, uh, sometime at the beginning of the next year. Do you
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So
I actually had a, I was on ‸ call ‸ with Nemo. As you all know, I'm a representative
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Uh, and this is where that conversation came up so I can grab models. Uh, but I think this is something that we should start thinking about now. Uh,
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businesses is thriving.
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in the future. So, uh, this is, like I said, I just want to ‸ put this in the atmosphere.
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we've entered, man,
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some buildings I can go back to since I was in high school, they've been vacant and it's not, not one sign on those buildings saying it's for sale or for lease anything. So,
yep.
So, um, that's all I have for my reports.
Thank you very much, sir.
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the honoris. I had an honoris experience this week and that was at the Brightline inaugural celebration. Um, that was just really great. It was great to talk with some of their contractors, like their architects, who everyone we spoke with was very
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And, um, so looking forward to those talks in the future.
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at the town hall on October 17th. And so a focus point of that town hall will be, um, about train safety. And since, uh, people in district four, of course, are quite impacted like everybody else. Um, we'll also be talking about, you know, things going on in the city, but, um, I would like to focus, um, on the trains and we'll also have the train exhibit open. So that'll be kind of fun. And the other thing it was an honor to participate in was, um, the swearing in for, on a couple of occasions over the last couple of weeks. And, um, particularly this last one that involved, um, two of our officers that were coming back from
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And I understand that,
um,
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understand that, um, we're the way things are trending. We expect to have a full house soon. So to be fully staffed. So that's all good news. And that's the end of my report.
Did you have a good time?
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Yes, ma'am.
I
was the, like, I saw the collaboration and, you know, uh, communication with all municipalities.
Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, I did want to mention. Go ahead. Because I met the ladies from Melbourne that are in the, um, the Main Street program. And they mentioned how jealous they are of our outdoor areas. So,
uh, that was
good feedback as
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Thank
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I have one other thing that I wanted to bring up.
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Um, this will be the third year that we've budgeted for an assistant city manager. And, um, I've spoken with the city manager about this before.
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know, we have a lot on our plate. Um, that's a position that can really help things strategically.
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um, you know, so that we're accountable. And, um, I just, I would, you know, I don't know how the rest of the council feels, but, um, I'd really like to encourage that to happen sooner rather than later.
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And that would help with communication as well. ‸ What is the feeling of council? Is there, do other people feel this way too?
because
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I still have, uh, several incidents where people don't get a reply or they don't get a reply soon enough. There are a number of issues. I think that, you know, if we had, um, somebody in that position that, um, we would be able to serve the public ‸ better.
I
would let the city manager determine that because I've never heard anyone complain about that. Um, I'm,
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I'm just saying he's competent enough to know that if he needs, uh, assistance, he'll bring it to our
attention.
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Um, that's how I feel about it. Um,
uh,
he's never been shy
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communicating with me. Um, when I needed his response, uh, I would collaborate with him and he'll direct me to, if I need to talk with a staff member or someone on his staff or he's capable of doing it until he wants to request
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He's the best city manager
we've had in years.
So requesting, requesting an assistant city manager is not a negative reflection on the city manager. It's not questioning his competence. So I have several incidents ‸ where people have not gotten a response in a timely way or we just don't, and several times where we, it just seems that we lack the capacity to do certain things that would be helpful if we had someone in that position.
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Um, and if I did have an issue with, uh, city manager not responding to me, probably
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Hey, what's going on? You know? Um, and, but he's already responsive to me. I haven't, I haven't had the issue, but I, I'm not knocking what you're saying. Um, but,
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managed that that system still kind of go through the city manager regardless.
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in a way of a determination or resolution to whatever it is until he goes through the city manager. And I think I don't want to speak for him. I do want to ask him though. Um, well, let me do it. Let me just ask. So we just throw it out there. Well, I'm actually first. So this, the situation that
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saying people not respond, are you talking about commercial people? Are you talking about developers? Are you talking about, um,
I'm interested in expanding our capacity at the higher big picture level? I mean, I'm assuming city manager hires. This person is going to be somebody like minded that is, you know, a compliment.
Gotcha. I got you. I got you. Um,
I mean, we have budgeted for it for three years.
Okay. Uh, what Mr. City man, do you feel like you need assistant? I guess that would be the question.
Why, why, why not? I'll
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those in the role that the person is going to take. And so, you know, it takes a while.
It
takes some time to actually learn the job, be comfortable in the job and, and, and ‸ so that you can identify the gaps. Um, you know, please send me, uh, back to me, those, uh, issues that I've been non responsive on. I've, uh, I've taken the criticism and tried to work on that. And, but, but again, you know, I think that if, if
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and can work independent of the city manager, that's the wrong idea about what an assistant is. And so, um, we've used those savings to, uh, to, uh, manage the budget over time.
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And so I certainly wouldn't use the city man, the assistant city manager away.
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made. Organizationalally in that, in that regard.
And
so, um, so, uh, again, I think that, um, I'm doing okay. Uh, you guys will tell me otherwise and, and, and you guys will present the, uh, the issues to me as, as you need to. Um, we need engineers. We need, uh, other professionals. We need officers. We need firefighters more than we need.
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Okay.
Thank you.
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why I love cocoa because we do a phenomenal job. Okay. It's one and three. Who goes first? Who went first? Last time. I'll go. Okay. Go ahead.
sir.
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uh, I was going to mention the sip and stroll this Saturday. ‸ Even if they don't have any tickets, you still go out and walk into stores and buy stuff. Uh, ‸ I used to help one of
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350 people and we'd have another 350 people, we didn't have a cup, but they bought stuff. So come out and enjoy, walk around and see all the shops at nighttime, which is pretty cool.
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I have to thank you very, very much for that. ‸ Had all the information we needed. And I went up to this Samantha's office on a Monday to pull her head off the ‸ ceiling, but she was at a conference because,
uh,
I enjoyed that game and I'd like to see our mayor sometime.
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Miami scored 70 points and your number 70. So,
so
that'd be kind of cool to say. And, uh, over to Mr. Goins.
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Uh,
‸ so, uh,
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Am I right? 6 PM for the Gilmore? Yes. Okay. Uh, October 9th, 6 PM at the National
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There will be the Gilmore Park community, um, discussion, um, to discuss several options that we have on the table and just kind of discuss pros and cons of, uh, whatever the community wants to do, um, with the park.
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Uh, yeah. Yeah. Jermaine Klinsky ‸ did a great, um, event at that park, bringing in resources. Uh, ‸ they did a, um, a community, uh,
dinner
as well, um, for people who may be homeless in the area. Uh, they gave hygiene products. Um, also several doctors donated their time to do blood pressure checks and things of that nature in that area. So, uh, shout out to him, uh, for doing that. Uh, thank you to public works as well for, um, going out to Gilmore Park and cutting the, uh, islands in that area. Um, I made a complaint last week and, uh, ‸ you fulfilled that. I appreciate that. Uh, also, do you have any update on the conversation we had about the contract for parks and recs regarding pulling of weeds inside of their contract? Yeah,
that's probably, that's probably me.
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So I'll circle back. Okay.
Okay. Um, ‸ so also today, PD,
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y'all was on the e-bikes today.
Yeah.
Um, and the Facebook knew before anybody. Um, so, but it was a good thing because, uh, the people that are mad about you being on e-bikes, that's the reason why you need to be on e-bikes. So thank you for, for, for y'all for doing that as well.
Um,
I think they said they go like 35 miles an hour or 30 miles an hour or something crazy.
Yeah. Yeah. You have to pedal, you have to assist it to get it
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Wow. It'll go that
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That's crazy. All right. Uh, so,
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else? Gabe. ‸ Yeah. Yeah. Thank
you all
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for being out there for that. Um, national night out, uh, October 3rd, next Tuesday, 4 PM to 7 PM at provost park. Um, come out and meet your neighbors. Uh, also we have other resources
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Some others will be there. Uh,
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conversation, you know, it gets heated and definitely on social media.
It's
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been crazy on social media, but it is some of the conversation that has been taking place, um, by people who don't pay taxes, who live in the city. So it is, it's kind of hard for them,
you
know, hard for me to take them serious when, when
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the millage, um, is because you don't pay taxes. Now, rightfully so for some who may be veterans, um, who may have disabilities and things of that nature. But, um, you know, again, it's a lot, a lot of people that, that pay a hundred bucks more or pay zero dollars that are having this conversation. And, you know, I know it's a new point. Now we move forward, but I just,
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argue with nobody, but, um, but I'm done for the day. Yes, ‸ sir.
Okay. Um,
I
guess that's my time.
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least. Thank you very much. Um, do you have anything for me, Mr. Beach?
I
do not. Well, green eggs and ham,
man.
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That's what I am. I probably sent you a good 15 pictures. I have pictures of what ‸ councilwoman calls to myself and the city manager at Brightline. Our beach.
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Boy, thank you, my friend. We'll bring it back. We'll play it again, Sam. All right. On this notion, I just want to say a few good things. While we were at, um, Brightline, um, we had, I met with, uh,
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And I had a brief conversation with them pertaining to having the
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of Brightline in the great city of Cocoa,
affectionately known as Hot Chocolate. That's right. They know us
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of Florida, being the first vice president. And
I said,
soon, at
the
same time, next year, we will,
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Even though when people wrote certain things about us, we still, if you have the blessings of God,
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So,
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And I
think we have a great fighting chance to make this location a permanent destination. Okay. We already talking about, um, sip and stroll. How about those Tigers? We played Treasure Coast
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know, I have love for Rockledge High School. Just on the one time, and that's when we played. Yes. Yes. We, and we will not forget St.
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I had the opportunity to
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and which we approved, um, and got
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honor.
And
it started at Cocoa High School, under the leadership of Mrs. Denise Stewart. And they voted unanimously to name the track after Mr. James Folston. And the point that I'm saying to you is the process is in motion. The train is leaving the station. It will go in front of the school board. They will deliberate. And then they will come back. And the city of, well,
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a feeler for the vibes of the community. And I expect that it will be well received. And then it will come back for a vote to the school board where all school board members will vote on it. And I'm hoping for a unanimous vote. And just like they did with my father naming
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man. You exemplify and
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homegrown. Also, we had a chance to meet with this early learning coalition of
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Gambino. The numbers in our pre-k, elementary schools and early learning have increased. And the funding has ceased. So but we will continue to fight for this early learning coalition so our children can be prepared for the future. I'd rather capture them at an infancy or a toddler state so we can give them the proper tools to be success academically. Education is an equal playing field all the way across the board. I'm also happy to say Lake Orchid. Am I saying that right? Rob Cramp? Is it Lake Orchid?
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Ah! Okay, thanks sir. Okay, capiche. All right. That's when the train was coming in and as you can see everyone's getting their cameras and so forth ready.
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Miss Amber, she did a phenomenal job and I said thank you very much. Wow, man. If I would have known that it would be good. Thank you very much, Mr. Rob. You are right with me, man. And yes, here we go again. Here we go again. The great things that come out
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at our conference this summer. He did a phenomenal job. Even a poor frog will praise his own pond. And don't you ever forget that. So every reason that
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At your meeting, yes sir, District 1. We had a great time there. I was even glad to see you, Miss Fox. You had your face in the place like you do right now with the human race. I got you. I can't wait to put you in the pool again. Thank you.
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