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our firefighters, let's give them a round of applause. And then we will have an invocation by Councilman Lavander Hearn. Let's give them a round of applause. And then we will do roll call.
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Please, ma'am, please, sir, secure your cell phones.
All right, if everyone would please join me in prayer. Dear Heavenly Father, I'd like to give thanks for allowing everyone to arrive here at City Hall tonight. Safe, I ask that you continue to watch over us as a city, watch over our neighboring cities as well, our first responders, law enforcement officers. And at this time also, I would like to take a moment of silence
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In Jesus' name we pray, amen. Amen.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of
the United States
of
America, and to the republic for which it stands,
one
nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. Hoorah! Hoorah! Okay. Madam Clerk.
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May
we please do roll call, ma'am.
Mayor Blake.
Present, ma'am.
Deputy Mayor Weeks. Here. Councilmember Goins.
Here.
Councilmember Hearn. Present. Councilmember Koss. Here. City Attorney Garganese.
I am.
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Thank ‸ you.
Okay. Proceeding on tonight's agenda item number 2-1, a regular
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I would like to amend the agenda, please, sirs and ma'am, or ma'ams, for move item number 7-1, presentation
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by the Center of Public Safety. We would like to move that under awards and presentations, so that will give us three, and Mr. Brian Dean will be doing the presentation. Is that correct, Chief Lamb? Yes, sir.
Thank you.
Okay. I'm looking for a second.
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the paving services. Move that to 8-3. And the reason I'm asking it to be moved is that when this was brought up, when we talked about this in the last budget meeting, we were told that this would come back to us, and we would have an opportunity to discuss it, and discuss priorities, and by having it in the consent agenda, there's no opportunity to discuss it. So that's why I'm asking it be moved to the council business 8-3.
Okay.
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Okay. And then we're
going
to move.
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That's dealing with 5-24.
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So 8-3 will be the 5-5 under consent agenda item.
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Well, it hasn't. I made a motion. You want to amend my motion.
Uh-huh.
No, no. I said you want to. Yes, I'd
like to amend your motion and second it.
To
include your item.
‸ Yes.
I'll
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I guess
you.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I ‸ amend
my motion. I got you. Okay. Apologics. Okay.
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Let me ask this item number five, Mr. City Manager or Fire Chief. This is about contact with the striker sales. Is that my correct understanding?
No, she just wanted to move the paving.
Just the ‸ paving. The paving.
What number
is that?
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five.
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Okay. I'm sorry.
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Okay. My question that I ask is this, which area is this affecting? District two. Oh.
It's affecting all of them.
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We
were told at the budget meeting that we would, this would come back to us and we'd have the opportunity to discuss it. And I'm asking it be moved out of consent so we can discuss it.
Okay. Mr. City Manager, can you enlighten me on this? So if I want to amend my motion. Reflect this.
These are the budget allocations for the annual paving projects with
the various districts.
Various districts in the city. And so I think we have that listing included in the agenda report. And so this is that opportunity for the council to weigh in on the listing as presented by staff through the analysis that's conducted by the software program and the analysis that we update each year.
Okay.
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Yeah, no, no. I'm
talking
about if I amend my motion. No, no. I'm trying to read my.
Oh,
you read it. I'm talking out loud too.
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ma'am?
Well,
at that meeting, there were several additions to the list that was offered for paving. We took, I think, additional monies, monies that were left over from this year's budget, and added it to this coming fiscal year budget. And at that time extended the roads. Some of us were not prepared to discuss that.
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time that the list would come back to us with the analysis and we would have an opportunity to discuss it.
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Of course, the list, I don't know, I guess there are probably, what, 20 or 30 streets? Only one of those 30 is in District 4. Oh,
that's the problem. Yeah.
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at the request of council members. Um, I'm just concerned that we all have the opportunity to put eyes on it and treat it fairly.
Mr. Mayor. Sir. So let me, let me just make sure I understand. This is the current fiscal year list.
Yes.
And so we've not,
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which is the budget that we are working on and we'll be working on there. And
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This is the current fiscal year. And then, um, October one,
will
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start a new listing of projects.
Yes.
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Um, and it is with the additions that were brought up at the budget meeting. Yep.
So
we've also spent 650,000 on full depth reclamation on Range Road and the million paving of three quarters of a mile.
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So we, so we did the, we did the Range Road project and then we did another project there. I'm not sure, are all of these projects off of, is this the staff listing?
Yes.
Yeah. I'm not sure that we've added any projects as suggested, as suggested by any of the council members. This is the staff listing based on the analysis that comes out of the study. And that study is again, updated each year. So, okay. I had asked earlier,
this is a staff
proposal.
And I thought you told me that it was, that
these
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streets that we had added, But there is a point of order here because we're still trying to pass an agenda. So this is a matter of discussion.
Right. But ma'am, ‸ I'm orchestrating this meeting. I thank you very much, ma'am. I want everyone to have the opportunity to voice their concerns. And I thank you. So,
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Yes, sir.
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but majority of these streets on the currently on this list that we have has already been paved. And most, and what's the percentage of it?
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No, we haven't started yet. Any
of them, correct?
Any of them. Any
of them.
Correct.
You got the project.
This is, this is the request to move forward with the paving. The reason why we waited is because we were doing the full depth reclamation and paving on
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which it has been our experience when we perform this type of, uh,
uh,
rehabilitation on a road. Sometimes we run into, uh, situations where we need to tap into a contingency. So we wanted to make sure that project was completed before we moved forward with the, uh, fiscal year, um, annual paving.
Yeah. So, so just my only concern,
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if, if the reason for bringing this off the consent agenda is to actually move, uh, some of the streets that we have on the list in order to add new streets, I'm definitely not going to vote for that at all. Not at this point, because I believe staff, um, has came up with a list. They've done their due diligence and we are at that point now where we need to move forward. And so ‸ that's just my opinion. Uh, and I know I'm only one, um, out of five, but my, my opinion, if that's, if that's the reason to remove, to add, I'm not for that at all. So that's just my, my opinion on, on this item ‸ anyway.
Right.
Okay. Uh,
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uh, councilwoman
cost
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one moment, please ‸ light on Mr. City manager.
Yes,
sir.
All right, sir.
I
just want to again, make sure that you all are clear on what this listing is. And so, so again, and I may have said it wrong yesterday, but this listing is the listing. This is for the
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And so this fiscal year started back, uh,
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What we talked about in the budget workshop may have been paving generally, but looking
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So, so again, this is the listing for the current fiscal year.
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fiscal year and the dollars associated with that. as Mrs. Morgan said there. We held this because there may have been some overruns associated with the reconstruction of Range Road. And so we wanted to make sure that we had sufficient budget available before we actually brought, uh,
uh,
brought back to you guys the annual paving list again for this current fiscal year. I think I got that right.
That's correct. Thank you. Okay.
What
district? Ms. Esquire Garganese, sir.
Yes, sir.
I made a motion. Um, and
she's
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seconded councilwoman
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I get Robert rules of law. Correct.
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amending it. So my question is if I want to negate her motion, what is the proper procedure, sir?
Well, you're just at the point of the meeting where you're with the council is considering the approval of the agenda. So there was, um, I believe there was a motion to approve the agenda with, I think the mayor, you may have had one amendment
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suggested another amendment to the agenda.
Correct.
With unanimous consent of the council, you can add councilwoman costs as request. If there's not unanimous, uh, consent, then, um, her request doesn't get added procedurally by unanimous consent. However, she did make a motion to amend the motion to approve the agenda. And I believe there was a second.
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amendment to the, to the main motion first. So her request to, uh, remove that item and have a separate discussion would have to have a separate vote first before you approve the overall agenda. Okay. And if it fails, then the original motion, um, needs to be voted on. Okay.
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majority?
Now, if there's unanimous consent, then her request can be approved with your original motion to approve the agenda.
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then she's entitled to make a motion to amend the main motion.
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She
did second
it. So then you, so without unanimous consent, then you need to take up the amended, the amendment.
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I just want to make sure things are done decent ‸ in order. So what,
after
I hear from her, then I will call the question with the amendment stated. And if it's voted down, no, or have a majority of no, then ‸ I could bring this back again, the agenda item with the modification or amending of, uh, ‸ Mr. Brian Dean. Correct. Correct.
Okay.
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Well, you already, I think you already had a second to that. Yes,
but.
You'd have to just call that for a vote.
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order? Because it doesn't appear to be, uh, unanimous consent. So take up, um,
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um, to move, uh, the paving item to, um,
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Right. But I will hear from her because
the
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light is on.
Okay.
Yeah, no, just to say that, uh, I have no streets in mind that should be taken off the list. I did not look at all of the streets on the list. I didn't have time to. I just looked at, and I'm aware of, certain streets that I know need help. And
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impression that this list included those streets that we discussed at the budget meeting where we were told it would be brought back to us and we'd be able to look at and discuss it at that time. That's why I'm asking for it to be a discussion item rather than just on the consent agenda.
Deputy Mayor Weeks.
‸ I just want to make sure I'm clear on this. What I'm hearing is that these streets and this paving was approved last year with last year's budget. And these, so this is not the first time it's come. It was done last year.
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Before,
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The
budget amounts were approved in the current fiscal year budget. So we're in the current fiscal year. This is the current fiscal year listing.
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the new fiscal year, ‸ next ‸ fiscal year. So none, none of what you suggested in the budget workshop are in this listing. And correct me if I'm wrong,
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So, so we didn't, we didn't, none of the roads that we talked about at the most recent budget workshop are in this listing.
Okay. So this list was approved last year.
This, this is, I
wasn't on the council then, so that's why I want to make sure I'm clear on that.
Yeah. I don't, have we, have we present, this is the first time you're seeing this listing. Yeah. Okay. So it
is the first time that the, these streets, these particular, and this is for current
fiscal year dollars. I got you. Again, this listing, even though it's, it's your first time seeing it, it does not include any of the suggestions made at the, uh, most recent budget workshop.
‸ I understand, but he's hearing that this is the first time that it's, that these streets have been seen, uh, then I'm more inclined to vote, to move it off the consent,
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my issues are not that big with this. When I asked Abby, um, when I asked
miss
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Morgan earlier, she told me it included the streets we had talked about.
I'm
sorry.
I'm so
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I didn't understand the question. My apologies.
but I still think it makes sense for us. Even if we don't spend a lot of time on it, this is a big difference to our citizens. This is where they really see the, the rubber meet the road, so to speak,
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the neighborhoods, a lot of people see this as, um, this is where they see the city taking action. So I would like to see it discussed.
Okay. Turn your light off.
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Okay. So let me make sure I'm correct. That's why I
got
an easy. I can call her
request
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gonna call the question.
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I said, ‸ sorry.
I jumped. ‸ Okay.
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particular item,
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and placing
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say aye. Aye. Aye. For if you're against this particular item, say nay.
Nay.
Nay. Nays have it.
You
majority. Now I'm going back to my original request.
I
need a second to amend the agenda.
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We have a second on the floor. All in favor of saying aye. Aye. Any nays? Ayes have it. Unanimously. Thank you very, very much. Moving
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Minutes. Regular meeting of February 25th, 2025. What are the wishes of council?
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to approve. Second. Okay.
We
have a motion on the floor by Deputy Mayor Weeks and a second by Councilman Hearn. Chair is going to call the question. All in favor by saying aye.
Aye.
Aye. Ayes have it unanimously. Moving on to the ‸ important item of tonight. They all are important, but especially with the room being maxed out, which I'm very, very happy to see the populated individuals in this room. Kind of reminds me of being up there on Tallahassee
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Hey, let's give them a round of applause. Council, would you stand and recognize the academy and the vehicles? Okay.
Thank
you, sir. I'd like to introduce Jamie Broderick. She's our public information officer, and she coordinated our Citizens Academy this year,
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and give the presentation for you all.
Okay. Do you all want us to come down now,
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I'll call you.
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Tiger pride.
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Thanks.
You're fine. You're fine.
This program provides a behind-the-scenes look at how our city operates, helping to build a greater understanding of trust and involvement in the community. Today, we are proud to recognize the sixth graduating class of the Citizens Academy. We are absolutely thrilled with the success of this program. To date, we've had more than 60 participants, and they have all gained valuable insights
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and how they can become more actively involved in shaping its future. Over the course of 10 sessions, participants explored various departments and learned firsthand about their inner workings of local government.
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In session one, kicked off with an introduction to the basics of local government and gave participants the opportunity to meet their elected officials.
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the Finance Department challenged our participants to balance the city's budget, and I think
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and provided an in-depth look into how we manage public funds. During session three, participants
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the Dial Water Treatment Plant and learned about the vital processes of delivering clean, safe drinking water to our community.
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the Community Services Department explained what goes into ‸ constructing a building in Cocoa, from permitting and planning to housing options and more. They also learned about our
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Session five, offered a hands-on experience with the Water Sewer Field Operations and
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who demonstrated how they respond to maintain and repair our infrastructure. Session six, participants toured the Emergency Operations Center and heard from our Emergency Management Director,
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about how we prepare and respond to emergencies. Session seven, featured public works, where participants saw equipment used to keep our city clean and beautiful, including vac trucks, lawnmowers, street sweepers, and more, and they definitely had a fun time there. Session eight, took us to the Cocoa Police Department. Participants toured the facilities, including the jail cells, the 911 communication centers, experienced a canine demonstration, tried on police gear, and learned about the many community engagement efforts led by our officers. In session nine,
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welcomed participants to Fire Station One, offering a glimpse into the life of a firefighter and the services they provide to our residents. And finally, in session 10, this focused on citizen engagement, ‸ participants learned how to get more involved through volunteer opportunities and
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to understand how events and rentals are managed for the public. This program has truly been a great success and has been an absolute pleasure ‸ working with this highly engaged and dedicated group of citizens. They have not only deepened their understanding of the city of Cocoa, but they have also become ambassadors for all that makes our community great. Thank you and congratulations to each of you for making the commitment to complete this program. Your time, energy, and enthusiasm is what helps make our community stronger. And now I'd like to take a moment to recognize each of our graduates and present them with a few tokens of appreciation. A city of Cocoa street sign with their name on it, a t-shirt to proudly wear that identifies the Citizens Academy graduate as an official city liaison ready to help answer questions and guide others in the community, and a certificate of completion to mark this achievement. When I call your name, please come forward to collect your items and we'll stay in front for a group photo. So first we have Connor Burke.
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and Roslyn Welsh. Okay, we'll take a quick photo.
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Are you going to mount your sign in your house?
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All right, do
we have everyone? I think we got everybody. All right, ready? One, two, three.
Okay. Can we do like a fun photo where you throw your hands up in there? Come on. There you go. Give me the thumb.
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We would like to recognize Dr. Laura Wilson. The floor is yours, ma'am.
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having us here today.
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I'm getting over a cold. But I'd want to take a few minutes to introduce myself, the Marine Resources Council, and the work that we're doing to protect the Indian River Lagoon
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the way up to municipality and governments. Just to introduce myself a little bit, I'm originally from Georgia, but my kind of story starts on the east coast of Florida. This is where I got interested in science by actually digging up shark's teeth on the beach from a very young age. And so I'm very happy that I've been able to come full circle to help with the environmental side of our water resources.
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born and raised in the inland of Orlando.
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communities. We look after the entire watershed. And we do that through science, education, and advocacy. We've been running a citizen science water quality monitoring program since 1991, won a presidential award for citizen science, where we collect weekly data and compile them into database to look at the health of the lagoon. We do shoreline restoration, where we specifically work with mangroves. We run the largest licensed mangrove nursery in the state of Florida. So actually provide restoration services across the state. And then we do a lot of science and advocacy. Most recently, we had a large
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in the model of the American assembly, where we could bring together constituents from across the region to talk about not only the problems, but the solutions. One of the things that came out of the action assemblies over
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report, or what used to be called the report card. We changed it up in 2024 to kind of take a snapshot of the year and look at a couple of different types of data, like seagrass, wastewater spills, and then really were able to break down what was going on with water quality. I don't want to get too much into the data, but we broke the basin or the entire lagoon into five different basins and looked at how the water quality changes in each of the basin. And red is bad and orange is second bad, with green being good, kind of in this. And
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is looking at things like
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And these are what we call nutrient pollutions, which is one of the big types of pollution that we see in the lagoon. They feed these harmful algal blooms that cause the
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The other type of pollution that we see is freshwater. All of the water that falls on
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ends up in the lagoon with everything that washes into it. So one of the things that we've launched just this year is our latest initiative called Low Impact Living. And this is how we're trying to get everyone involved in addressing this nutrient and freshwater pollution issues. It builds on the principles of low impact development, treating water where it falls before it becomes somebody else's problem, and then extending it to all scales of individual to government. This is four different pillars. We have four different pillars that kind of hold up this initiative. The first one being educating the public. It takes a lot of the standard stories that we've been telling multiple ‸ organizations for decades and bringing it to the people. We've always done a lot of face-to-face, but we're really trying to expand into the digital as well with videos as well as infographics. And one of the keys is making sure that everybody can see themselves as part of a solution and giving them action items that don't affect their finances or don't affect their time, but that even small changes can make a big improvement. The second is empowering citizens and this is providing them resources so that they can advocate for themselves within their communities. This has really taken off in the last couple of weeks working with HOAs and providing them resources for when they go to their boards or sit on their boards for making decisions that's gonna ‸ help clean the
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lagoon. And we're hoping to develop these kind of templates that we can share to make it easy for people to kind of get on board and understand how to take action. The third pillar is advocating for change and this is where
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come in. We've been working with them for five years now at least with low impact development and kind of
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but it's the entire watershed. And
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population. That population is growing and with growth comes impervious area growth, but what probably hasn't changed much are the size of your pipes. So now we're trying to put way more water into these pipes than they were ever built to handle and that a lot of times leads to flooding because the pipes can't handle it. So folks say, well, we can increase our infrastructure by making these pipes bigger. That solves all our problems. Not really because pipes used to look like this when I came over here to play in the lagoon and now they look like this. So I don't care how big you make the pipes. If the water doesn't have anywhere to physically go, the water is still going to stand up in the streets. And furthermore, as Laura said,
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We can't put any more in there. So we've got to find alternative ways to help our drainage systems. And this is really important for municipalities because it's going to help you manage flooding. It's going to help you manage those everyday flood events that happens when it rains. It's going to help you manage your state permit requirements to reduce discharges to the lagoon by keeping water out of pipes. It's going to help reduce pressure on you to clean other people's water. If developers are keeping their water on site, they're not giving it to you. It makes your jobs significantly easier and ultimately cheaper. And I love this.
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to the to the community because it's going to enhance urban corridors. It's going to bring businesses in. It's going to revitalize area and bring people in which spend money,
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than one inch. 90% of rainfall events are less than an inch and a half. If we could capture that water before it enters your conveyance system, you've just made your system more resilient. Next are old communities. Think about these old communities that have one drain to service an entire neighborhood. Or maybe two drains to service an entire neighborhood. This screen is full of opportunities to add infrastructure without adding pipes, which is going to make the existing system more resilient.
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Beach did this with a great upgrade project just across the water here, where they implemented these practices on the left hand side to capture water.
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Look at how the landscape changed. The businesses changed. They've got events where people are coming in and spending money now. And what you can't see under those brand new beautiful pavers is a massive storage facility where they store water. The streetscape totally changed. The businesses, again, look at the difference in these things. But those pretty gardens you see are now taking in water. Those cars are parked on surfaces that allow water to go through. This project was funded by DEP and they've documented 97% of the water that hits the ground does not go into the conveyance system. So there's opportunities for you all to do this as well. And I'll turn it over to Laura to close this out.
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started with the Low Impact Development Conference, which we offer every year. And it's a great place where we've been able to bring together the developers, the engineers, and the municipalities for sharing projects and education.
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up this fall just right down the road in Rockledge.
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And this is really using properties that MRC either owns or manages.
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from wading bird rookeries where we're doing shoreline restoration to Jupiter where we do invasive removal and native plantings.
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‸ our capstone is our property that we manage in Palm Bay where we have a lot of these practices of floating wetlands and shoreline restoration rain gardens buffer zones to really demonstrate to people how these practices can be implemented.
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return of investment components of all these as well.
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This is Dr. Wilson. Thank you.
And
also Mr. Bogdan. Any questions for them? I know it's Earth Day. You're absolutely right. Do we have any questions for them?
I was just going to say we have attended the low impact workshops in the past.
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Morgan's been there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We've opened it up this year for abstracts. So if you all have projects that you want to talk about, we're trying to get people to have the platform to talk about what's going on in their own municipalities.
Okay. Thank you. Thank you all so much for your time.
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Okay. Next will be Mr. Brian Dean.
Mr. Mayor,
as
Mr. Dean prepares to come up, I'd like to thank you and
council
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for allowing him the opportunity to present a historic milestone for the city of Coco and for the fire department. Uh,
never
before has our organization had an actual professional working strategic plan. Uh, basically a roadmap to help us better serve our community and citizens. Uh,
‸ the
center for public safety excellence, uh, is the same organization that credentials us as professional fire officers.
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went through that rigorous credentialing process, uh, the last couple of years. Uh,
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this is the same group that does that. They're ‸ very thorough group, uh, excellent organization, but certainly, uh, one that we are very proud to be partnered with to help us, uh, get our organization moving forward,
uh,
and show key aspects of what we do in our community. So we had them come in this year and actually help us with a strategic plan. So I don't want to take all of, uh, Brian Sunder. Uh, he's going to walk you through that, but he is also, uh, local to us. He lives here in the city of Rockledge.
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Yes, sir. Yes, sir. South Coco.
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us. He has actually been a real
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helping us get our organization moving forward. And we appreciate his professionalism.
And,
and just for the record,
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we will vote on this at the conclusion of his presentation.
Yes, sir. I'll have a couple of
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council members. Thank you for this opportunity.
Uh,
chief lamb did steal a lot of my thunder, so we'll probably skip over a few slides.
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First of all, um,
Um,
because I know this organization, I've gotten to know this organization and their leadership and what they went through to get this strategic plan accomplished, uh, to me was very important. Um, secondly, uh, I'm very passionate about the fire service. I did 28 years in the city of Winter Park. Uh, but to be honest with you, I have 43 years in the industry because that's all we do and that's all I do is fire departments. Uh, ‸ very passionate about Florida fire departments also. So,
uh,
as I've extended to chief lamb, I'm, I'm available anytime they need me.
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I'll figure it out. Uh, but, but absolutely. Uh, I'm really, uh, wanting to share, uh, my knowledge and to help them become a better, a better department. So I am
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I'm sorry for the center for public safety excellence, uh, which I will actually call CPSC. The initialism is a lot, a lot easier to say. CPSC is actually a 501 C three
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whose mission is leading the fire service, uh, to excellence through accreditation credentialing and education. So they do oversee the commission on fire accreditation international,
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Um, then the, also the commission on professional credentialing, which the chief spoke about, which credentials fire officers on up, including fire marshals, uh, EMS officers, and even data analysis, which is one of our newer credentials. The educational side is where the technical advisor program lands. And we actually, uh, go in and help agencies with uh,
certain
things related to accreditation. But even in this case, uh, where maybe that's on the scope for a few years down the road, uh, an agency that just needs a
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and they just really, uh, they bring us in
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believe in our process. And again, I think that the testament to, um, the work that, uh, the, that, uh, your organization did, uh, to this, uh, will, will really, I think I hopefully will, will really dazzle you.
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actually it started with the community. So they invited community stakeholders to come in and our process really is to ask them questions and they write down their answers. Uh, we don't believe that focus groups are, uh, valuable in that we cannot capture the data as successfully as when they write and provide context to, uh, their, their questions. So we did ask them for, uh, expectations, concerns, and some other questions so that, that the agency stakeholders, the ones I'll introduce here shortly, were able to take that feedback and design and work around and make sure there is alignment with what the community had to say. So I will kind of give you a representation that there is no statistical significance to the amount of people that show up. In this case, 26 people from the community showed up and that kind of gives you a breakdown, excuse me, of who was there.
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the average that we're running right now.
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We do, uh, we did a lunchtime meeting. So sometimes the commitment is hard to get, ‸ but the ability to have, uh, folks come into the room and let us ask the questions provides the agency stakeholders with a lot of great information. So let's talk about the agency stakeholders. And actually, if you look around, I would say the majority, if not all of them are here, uh, that
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folks, um, participated and we worked them hard. Uh, we have a very organic process that I'm going to go over briefly, but,
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did, but the fact that they're here, um, is, is again, supporting this plan to supporting the work that they, they did.
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get beyond the guardrails, but all of the hard work is theirs for sure. So what we did basically is, um, just kind of a brief presentation of what we did with the three days with your agency stakeholders. We reviewed the community feedback and we conducted an environmental scan,
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What, you know, what do we aspire to be? What are some of the results? Uh, did some work with mission values, helping to reestablish a quality mission and value set so that we can use that as an anchor point for the rest of the process? Went through some visionary processes. What, you know, getting them to think, what can we be in the future? What's it going to take and what are some of those steps and what do we want to be in the future, whether it's five years or even farther out? Excuse me.
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those things that they want to tackle over the next five year period, things they can realistically tackle, things that are truly strategic, and then finally develop goals, objectives, and tasking, which is going to provide that roadmap for them moving forward. So I do want to go over a little bit. So
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from all hazards with service above self. Their value set,
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thing, compassion for those we serve, and integrity in the face of adversity. Pretty powerful values. And again, I have personally facilitated over 200 of these, um, and I would say that those are probably some of the most powerful values I've seen in a long time. Finally, the last box is their vision statement. It's the Cocoa Fire Department's vision is to develop a culture that promotes and encourages effort on common goals in the improvement of safety in the community. We will accomplish this through education, training, and proper resourcing with a focus on its members' mental and physical health.
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a lot of the information for the community, a lot of information of their own deliberations, and they had great conversations as part of this.
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it does happen. Right. Because there's a lot of passion, but they have that passion and ‸ they work through this process. Again, all we do is facilitate and kick them back into play every once in a while. They really, uh, just really, uh, dug in ‸ and did a fine job. So they came up with four goals and over a five-year period, realistically, and again, we, we wanted to make sure that, uh, they captured the essence of those true strategic things and what are those things that they can likely accomplish.
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the needs of our community and safety of our firefighters. Second one is to foster a work environment that actively promotes recruitment and supports continual retention through a vision of community involvement, educational opportunities, and competitive wages and benefits.
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is to improve work efficiency, morale, and health,
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a healthy work place through a comprehensive mental and physical wellness ‸ program to provide the best service to the community. And I, I'm going to take a quick second to say that, um, firefighter mental health and firefighter cancer are two of the biggest killers right now of firefighters, of young firefighters. Finally, the last goal is to align service delivery and ‸ staffing and the requirements to meet the future needs of the community. If you really look at these four goals, and I know that the city has a strategic initiative or a strategic, uh, overall looking at public safety and the support of public safety.
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community. Uh, this will help build them up to be a stronger, uh, more sustainable department. It's not going to be easy. They know going, going forward, it's not going to be an easy task, but they're, I think, up for the task for sure. And this provides them again,
a
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Who knows? But we know that they're going to try.
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I will probably be checking in on them to see and be willing to help them if they need some help with implementation.
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So with that, I will answer any questions or entertain any comments about the process. Anything that maybe I went too fast or maybe I didn't cover something specific.
Do we have any questions for Mr. Dean? Job well done. Concise.
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Point, sir.
Thank you very, very much. Again, I appreciate this opportunity. Thank you.
Mr. Mayor, I just...
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‸ Just like to take a quick moment to ask our internal stakeholders. Those were the firefighters, the lieutenants,
uh,
the chief officers that volunteered to be a part of this committee.
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stand up for for just a quick second.
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So any chief officer will tell you whether it's in the fire service or police service, nothing gets accomplished without those men and women on the ground. And those individuals that just stood up before you answered the call. They want to see the organization go forward. Their hearts are in the right place.
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of them. They went back to their stations. They talked to the other men and women in their stations and really came up with an overall product that was obtainable, not only for our organization, but for the city as a whole, to ensure that we continue a high quality of service to our community and to the citizens. And I can't be more proud of a product that has been produced by this organization than what we just produced to present to you tonight. So thank you to each one of them for the dedication and commitment that you provide to our community.
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my job easy, but you also make it a pleasure. So thank you.
All right. Great job. Now, now, now chief,
I
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We do. These, these two handsome young men right here are our new lawyers. We just hired them.
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and you saw the representation of that. And not all of them are here, but I know a couple of them are here. And I would ask them to stand up too, because they were a huge part that helped us bring this strategic plan together. So Alec, you
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stand. I know you were there, so don't try to hide. He was certainly one of them, but we had a really nice mix between our residents, our business owners, just all of a mix to help us bind into that. And that was one of the big things that
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mix. So, you know, just that feedback to help us with that and really work on this, just shows you an outpour of the community support for us as a public safety agency, but more important for us as a city. So again, I just want to say thank you to Brian, his team. They were absolutely phenomenal.
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But
most importantly ‸ to my men and women ‸ first stepping up to the plate, I'm very proud of them.
Let's give them another round of applause. Hold on.
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All right. Councilman Holmes, sir.
I don't think we can say thank you enough. ‸ I just applaud you guys for doing what you do day in and day out. You know, I know all too well what you go through and even with our challenges that we have, ‸ as every public safety agency has throughout the nation, you guys do it at a professional level at all times and I appreciate that. Again, I just thank you for what you do.
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coming to the table with solutions and trying to make this department the best as it can be. So, yeah, thank you. All
right. And
with that being said, I'd like to make a motion to approve, uh, to adopt the strategic plan.
I'll second.
‸ Okay.
All right,
we
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And I'll third it and everyone else. The other three remain.
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clear the room and then we will proceed in that order.
Thank you.
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Alright, ‸ this portion we're doing delegations. You have 180 seconds to elaborate on this particular item. First will be Mrs. Adams. Would you come to the podium, please?
Good afternoon. Thank you all for allowing me to come here tonight. Take
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I would like to say thank you for allowing me to come here tonight. I just wanted to kind of collaborate on the subdivision development that's coming forth. I am one of the homeowners that's going to be affected by the two-story buildings, which I was under the impression that it was a one-story
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that was coming forward. I like the fact they did the five single homes in that area, but I feel as if I'm in a place where I got two stories all the way around me.
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they said I couldn't purchase was going to be a single one-floor home, which is now going to be two-story homes. So I feel like it's invading
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surveyed in some form of way of the change, which I understand from the beginning it was initially supposed to be 22 houses in the area, which is now 32 houses, which is increasing the traffic in the area and ‸ with everything else that's going on in that specific area.
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coming in and need to go back to the original 22 homes because it's going to increase the traffic, which the traffic is already kind of crazy on that corner.
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‸ been living on that corner for five years, and some of y'all may live in the neighborhood, but I sit there and I see a lot of things that take place. So with that being said, 32 homes is going to bring average person have two houses,
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mean two cars within a house. That's 64 cars
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So I really feel like it really needs to be revised and it needs to be a smaller amount of houses. Because me being on that small corner right there, hurricane come through and it take one of them houses off, guess who going down first, the little house on the corner. And I got all these tall buildings around me. I feel like I am blocked in and I really think it really needs to be revised because I was under the impression it was going to be a house similar to mine, like the five that they put. But these two-story homes, ‸ it's not fair that they're being put like that. I've spent thousands of dollars to upgrade my home and to invade ‸ my privacy like that, put a privacy fence up.
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on me, not just one angle. I got every angle. So I feel like me personally, that's not fair on how it was done. And the community was not notified at all. We was told that it was supposed to be single homes. It's supposed to be 22, not 32. So I just wanted to come and express my concern and ask for it to really to be revised. And even if they try to put a red light right there, the traffic on that area that comes through that corner, that's an awful lot in that itty-bitty spot. So that's going to cause for more officers in the area. I'm sorry, but that's what it's going to consist of when different things take place.
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One house catch a fire,
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It's going to be a chain reaction.
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community. So I'm looking at it, not just me invading my privacy, but I'm looking at the community too as well.
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homes. So I think it should have been revised to where it's a single one-floor homes like the five they did on the front. That is beautiful. I like that. That's outstanding. Thank
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ma'am. We're going to have a question because I have a light on. Okay. Mr. City Manager, help me understand about ‸ the approval of non-conforming lots within that area too as well.
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are non-conforming lots.
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‸ The only thing that the city has had in place was they purchased these lots approximately 10 years ago from the ‸ housing authority and nothing has happened in 10 years. ‸ So originally, ‸ they are lots that would have accommodated a single-family, single-story home. As you know, this is an RFP put out on the street for a developer,
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builder to come in and actually finish out the subdivision. So ‸ at the end of the day, you ‸ have ‸ not only a response to a proposal, but you have a great response ‸ to a proposal that was put out there that allows that community to have 32 affordable housing units. There are a lot of neighborhoods, a lot of communities that actually have a mix of housing. And as you know, Mr. Mayor and Councilman Goings, that area ‸ certainly has a mix of housing. And ‸ so, again, this is a great proposal. We have modified some of the setbacks. We did that actually prior to this proposal. We did that in conjunction with doing some of the setback
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make it easier for anybody to build. And so we had a lot of, as the mayor said, a lot of non-conforming lots in the consent decree area and in this area.
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it will allow traditional single-story homes to be built also.
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the street.
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We also talked about kids staying at home now because we can identify what took place over at the Arlington Apartments.
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Mrs. Adams. And I
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And ‸ based on the style and size of the homes, the intent was to keep vehicles off the side of the street, Mr. City Manager.
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Mr. City Manager, could you elaborate on that?
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But these homes are set back in such a way to where they will have long driveways. It's a one-car garage, but the driveways will actually accommodate two stacked cars there.
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And so, one in the garage, and then you can accommodate two in the driveway for really a total of three. So, don't really see the parking on the street as an issue.
Right.
Okay.
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Two things. The first thing, the question I had was, you made a statement about the city telling you that you could not purchase the lot next to you? How did that come about?
So, I came to a meeting once before when they was talking about getting the subdivision together, and I wanted to purchase that piece of land. And ‸ I was told that I couldn't purchase it because it was already taken by the subdivision. And I was like, well, when they bring the housing come forth, I would like to purchase a home next to it since I can't purchase that land.
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to be 22 homes, which they did build the five, which it leaves the 17. So, now it's going back to something completely different. Now it's 32 and it's two stories. So,
‸ yeah. So, the next thing I had was, so, I don't know the numbers of 22 to 32, but you're right about the 32. And so, I believe ‸ if we ever was at the number of 22, then Lenard Homes would not be here. The homes would not be built at all. And so, and the reason why I say that because of ‸ the return on ‸ investment, right? And so, at 22 homes, that means those homes for their return on investment, that ‸ home would probably be much more than $279,000.
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don't want to guess,
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I know we got a realtor that's ‸ on board here as well, but, and so, and another statement I want to make,
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okay? You've done an absolute beautiful job with maintaining your home. I love the fact I keep seeing your son pressure washing that driveway twice a week.
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So, your concerns is, I understand, and I think we all understand,
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You're supposed to come exactly what you're doing when you have issues that you see that could impact you. But ‸ city manager is right as well, where you have certain subdivisions that you do have. Sometimes it's two-story, one-story, two-story, one-story. It kind of staggers itself. So, this won't be like the, this won't be the first time I've seen a product such as this. And another issue was, was the lot sizes. So, ‸ lot ‸ sizes got a little bit smaller, which turned those homes into more of those shotgun-style homes, again, to fit more homes, which in turn allows that price of that home to be lesser cost than what it probably would have been at 22. But in my opinion, I could be wrong. I don't believe if we had 22, I don't think we would even have a product to even present right now, in my opinion. And so, what your concerns are heard. Just to let you know that. But that's the reason why that number went up higher than what it was at the beginning. So, to let you know that. And it was only, am I right about this? There was only one respondent that we had?
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response. And there were 22 lots. And there were 22 lots for about 10 years ‸ that sat vacant. And so, we did the five. And the five, you know, made it 17. And so, ‸ but ‸ we can't replicate
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the five. Again, that was a budget of 1.6. And ‸ we sold for about 1.2.
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I'll say.
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this subdivision, to provide affordable housing to 32 families. And we
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the one response. That response was from Lenar, which is ‸ third largest builder, I think, in the nation. I think I got that right. Second, sorry. Second largest
building
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nation. And ‸ so, again, it's a good product from a good builder with the goal being affordable housing for the maximum number of families.
So, they never, like, surveyed the community when they decide to do things like this, you know? Because, again, it still takes it back. I understand. I feel like it's about numbers, too. Because, going back to what I originally said,
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I really don't have any privacy anymore. So, it
defeat
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the purpose of me investing money into my home and to be, you know, told one thing and then you turn around and want to put a two-story. I understand ‸ if you got to put your two-stories down a strip. Understandable. But right next to me, I prefer it to be a single home. Let it be a single home like mine is to match the block, you know? So.
Yeah. Okay. And I don't want
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That was the extent of the plan until ‸ year before last. I think it could have been last year.
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So that was the start of putting something on the 22 lots. Those happen to be single family. Again, can't replicate that because you don't have enough money to do that.
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come in and take down and do affordable housing at the HUD sales price? It's $279 right now. They think they can actually sell for lower than that. And at the statutory income range, which is 20% of AMI to 120% of AMI.
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no plan that was on the table to do a particular type of home. Again, all you had was 22 lots. All the city had was 22 lots. And those sat barren for approximately 10 years.
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‸ All right.
All right.
Thank you, Mrs. Adams. You're welcome. Wood, that's green.
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I'm going to be very quick because I can see that you all are very, got ‸ a lot to work on. The Commercial Property Group is wanting to see if they could get an update on two subjects. But one, they wanted to also include an issue with Western Waste. I understand the contract's coming up for renewal. And
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with that, is not working. The ‸ change now has been more of a negative effect than positive. There is wood debris, furniture. It looks horrible. And they're very concerned about it.
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go back with them with some information and to see if there's a support
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from it looking as unattractive as it is. The other two items, golf carts, I don't know where to go before the council or the CRA. They wanted to give another input on that situation. And also the security guards. They are very, very interested in having that started because they feel that a lot of the issues could be corrected. That's something that needs to be addressed in the village. And we're very anxious to see that come to fruition. So I hope that if you all have any kind of dates or input on the security guards and the golf carts, I'd like to see if I could take something to them. Otherwise, I'll wait till it's on the agenda.
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any dates on this that I can tell them that you all might be able to look it over?
Okay.
‸ Come to the next meeting, sir.
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Both. Both? Thank you very much. And Mr. Mayor, ‸ if you want me to, the waste management, he said
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I did.
I
meant they changed their names. That contract is a term to 2027. So it's termed to 2027. If you have particular sites that have issues, just simply give that to us and we'll work with waste management for that. ‸ Security guards are the enhanced security in the village. I know the city attorney is working on the amendments that need to occur to to the documentation for that ‸ program. The agreement with the CRA. And then I think there's another document that maybe needs to change.
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And so stay tuned on that one. Golf carts is not an issue that I have direction to pursue. Recall that the last time the council discussed that was there was a requirement to do a citywide study at a certain cost. And I don't think the council directed us to undertake that study.
Just for an update about the golf courts. There are more and more driving around. And I hope they don't get pulled over and charged with the ticket. Please let it go.
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Look to your left.
Thank you.
Okay. I think this concludes this portion of the allegations. We will proceed on to consent agenda item where the wishes of council.
Move to approve.
We got emotional flood by deputy mayor weeks
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a second by councilman goings. Just gonna call the question. All in favor ‸ saying aye.
Aye.
And in a's eyes have it unanimously. Proceeding on to item number six dash one.
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Garganese. Do you have anything you would like to expound on before Mrs. Webster states anything?
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sir. Thank you.
Um,
Mrs. Webster, ma'am, the floor is yours.
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council. Um, so yes, as as mayor stated, uh, this is the Michael C Blake subdivision development agreement, which is an agreement with Lenar homes to design and construct affordable housing in the Michael C Blake subdivision in Cocoa, Florida,
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the diamond square community redevelopment area for potential homeowners classified as either very low low or moderate income persons as
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Department of housing and urban development.
this is for the development of 17 existing parcels of real property into 32 affordable single family homes. Now just for a reminder and reference, I've included some language here from the Florida Statutes and the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development regarding affordable
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refers to monthly rents or monthly mortgage payments including taxes, insurance, and utilities not to exceed 30% of that amount which represents the percentage of the median adjusted gross annual income for the households as indicated in the following subsections, the low income persons moderate income persons and very low income persons and the US Department of Housing and Urban Development's definition is housing where the
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housing costs, including utilities so this agreement affects approximately 2.83 acres of city owned property located generally on mango Avenue Valencia Avenue and Blake Avenue between Barbara Jenkins Street and Stone Street and in 2016 the city acquired a
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of developing affordable housing and subdivided it into the Michael C Blake subdivision in September of 2024 the city published a request for proposal for the redevelopment of this property into affordable single-family housing to further the Diamond Square Community redevelopment plan objectives which are to create high-quality residential development that will serve as a catalyst for the redevelopment of the Diamond Square Community redevelopment area
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that provide a range of housing options while integrating well with the existing community fabric and to increase partnerships with housing developers. The request for proposal also stated specific requirements for the developer that they be experienced and well financed, capable of purchasing all identified lots to develop and to be able to construct affordable housing on all lots within a specified timeframe in October of
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develop the 17 lots into 32 home sites most of which would accommodate a two-story, approximately 16-foot wide home, carefully designed to maximize usable spaces with sizes ranging from 1295 square feet to approximately 1700 square feet two lots between Temple Street and Barbara Jenkins Street will have single-story model, which is approximately 1900 square feet. These would be sold for a
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by the United States Department of Urban and Housing Development and
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future negotiation of this development agreement that establishes guidelines and parameters for the development of the property. So regarding the future land use and zoning, the subject parcels are
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future land use designated nation of medium density residential, will allow which allows ‸ up to
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However, Diamond Square already consists of many smaller lots that are non-conforming with many being 50 feet or less in width. Also,
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setbacks specifically in Diamond Square to promote the development of essential housing, on currently available small lots
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two-story floor plan with all bedrooms on the second floor. The single-story floor plan will be located on the two lots between Temple Street and Barbara Jenkins Street. And I'd also like to remind everyone and point out that as part of this development,
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which include two trees per lot, which as the trees mature and develop will eventually
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article 11, section 3E, single family residential district, will be required, all of which will be incorporated into the development agreement. The minimum lot size shall be reduced from 7 500 square
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‸ The minimum lot width shall be reduced from 75 feet to 37 feet. The minimum lot depth shall be reduced from 100 feet to 95 feet deep. The maximum lot
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So this is one of the three two-story models, uh which you can see there is a single car garage,
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driveways, so essentially the capacity for three cars um on property. And this is the floor plan for the Breeze, the smallest model, which is 1295 square feet, but is two and a half bath and three bedroom And this is the second of the two-story uh models, which is called the Cypress. And again, it's the
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garage, and it will have the double driveway. And this is the floor plan for the Cypress, which is
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square feet, also two and a half bath and three bedroom. And the third of the two-story elevations is the element. And so this is the largest of the two stories.
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the four bedroom with a two and a half bath. And this was the, uh the elevations for the single story model, which you can see is a two car garage with the capacity for two other cars in the driveway.
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which is
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two bathroom.
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In
accordance with 16, 16, excuse me, in accordance with section 1521 of the city code
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The city is asking the developer to incorporate several development enhancements into the final site plan. This requires the developer to one develop affordable single-family homes as defined by HUD provide income or income, qualify all potential buyers to ensure the purchases are classified as very low, low or moderate income persons as defined in the Florida ‸ statutes. And to provide enhanced landscaping, fencing and playground equipment for the Harry Timor center. And to incorporate the use of energy efficient building methods and materials in the new homes. The development agreement aligns with the goals objectives and policies of the city of
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comprehensive plans, future land use element and housing element, as well as those of the diamond square redevelopment plan, including those for the future land use elements, such as redevelopment and promoting vitality and redevelopment in the three community redevelopment areas.
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state, safe and sanitary housing, housing, supply, energy efficiency, location of housing, incentives for affordable housing, and also in infill
development
development. So on April 2nd, 2025, the Planning and Zoning Board voted unanimously to recommend the City Council approve this development agreement for the Michael C. Blake subdivision. Therefore, staff requests that City Council approve this development agreement for affordable housing in the Michael C. Blake subdivision in Cocoa, Florida, situated in the Diamond Square Community Redevelopment Area, affecting approximately 2.83 acres of city-owned property located generally on Mango Avenue,
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and Blake Avenue between Barbara Jenkins and stone street for the development of 17 existing parcels of real property into 32 affordable single family homes with lots not less than 37 feet in width and 95 feet in depth. The agreement establishes building elevations and floor plans for the future homes and describes development schedules and future permitting requirements. Thank you.
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a couple of deal points. So this is tonight before you is the development agreement. As ‸ Mrs. Webster said, there are going to be permitting requirements. And so the lady will have an opportunity to revisit this when it comes to the planning and zoning board and when it ultimately comes back to you all.
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so with regards to a couple of the deal points, um, you know, I don't, I don't know that, uh, well, I do know because no other builder actually responded to the RFP. Uh, so I don't, um, you have a builder again, number two national rank builder that is willing to abide by the HUD, uh, ceiling on ‸ price and the statutory, um, income levels there. Um, they are purchasing the lots from the city. And so it is 15,000 per split. And so that's
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back,
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plan, the one that shows, just keep going back. And so if you, if you look at the bottom of the screen, that's Barbara Jenkins and you can see like little left of center, there's one single story home there. And so those lots, vacant lots are owned by, uh, the housing authority. And so again, this is not your plan. This is Stockton's, uh, idea. And so if you
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that you have, uh, in budget, uh, between diamond square and the city, you would get back to that amount that we had to do the, to do the five homes.
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you could do, you could do the one story homes that would give, uh, and I apologize for not remembering her name.
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uh, that consistency of look, um, right across from her. So, so again, housing authority has a number of folks. I believe they say they have a number of folks interested in that, but that's, but that's one, one thought.
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also as a part of this deal, they are going to actually build four home sites at a time. And so I think we have in the agreement that they are to appeal, the, to pull the building permits within three months after final plat approval and start the four homes and they'll take down, uh, they'll, they'll, uh, issue
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for each subsequent month. I think, um, or whatever the timeframe is ultimately in this contract, we have that they'll build out the subdivision, um, within 15 months of a final site plan approval, uh, 32 homes within 15 months of final site plan approval.
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um, there was a request from council to, uh, have the developer to consider landscaping, fencing, and playground equipment for the Harry T Moore center, um, to buffer, uh, that center from, uh, the home sites to actually improve, uh, the amenities
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has come to the table with $175,000 to do those, uh, those, uh, three things, uh, and they've committed to actually, um, completing that prior to the 17th certificate of occupancy.
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they'll, they'll put in those amenities. And so I think it's a great deal. I think it's a, uh, a great deal for diamond square and ultimately the 32 families that will occupy those homes.
Thank you.
Uh,
‸ who's like, cause councilwoman called. Yeah.
No, I was just gonna ask. So, um, so we went from 75 to 37. I know we did down to 40 in that one, the one off of range road. It's not, hasn't gone forward yet, but I know that's in the, in the range, but how many, uh, feet between homes
will there be?
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21 feet in between homes.
Okay. And then, um, the maximum lot coverage can be increased to 50% from 30%. If there aren't any stormwater issues there, I think that area is pretty well draining and we have a storm system.
Yes. And, and Abby can verify that the question about the, the, um, the adequacy of the, uh, impervious surface. Yeah. But, but we did say in the requirements that they still have to meet the maximum impervious surface surface coverage, um, or cannot exceed that coverage of 70%. So they still have to meet that requirement. Okay.
Yeah.
Okay. Okay.
Thank you.
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Um, there were two questions that was sent to me today. Um, one of them we probably can answer, uh, now, which, which is, uh, will after purchasing of a home with those home,
with
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a home be allowed to be a rental, um, inside of that we have control
over there.
This
is, this is home ownership. I'm glad you mentioned that because one of the things that also the builder agreed to is to allow the city to pick the third party consultant that will income qualify the, uh, the applicants there. And so this is, uh, home ownership, home ownership that's required for the HUD or the state period of time.
Uh, it's, it's a 20 year, uh, home ownership period for any first time home buyer assistance programs that are provided through the city.
Okay.
Okay. Um, so in saying that, which I, I, I'm glad that's the case.
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last, I'll say probably five to 10 years, a lot of people, um, have been, ‸ as far as the HUD is concerned, following that rule, but they have, uh, have sub leased those houses, um, removed homestead, went somewhere else and bought another house. And sometimes it's not tracked. Um, and it happened a lot and it's happening like within recent time
frames.
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And so
that's something that's on the HUD side. That's right. Right. That's right.
And so I just want to just make that, but,
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be involved in what that looks like. Uh, that's the first thing. And then the second thing is, um, that same comment was made to me yesterday. Okay. We're pouring in this amount of dollars for the fencing and things of that nature. Um, and that's something we can't answer right now, but I just want to let you know that citizens are paying attention.
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but yet
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or whatever the case may be, we still, uh, as of yet, um, have a plan for that. And so I'm just letting you guys know and city managers, ‸ well,
that
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people just asking that question once they heard it yesterday. And so they want to know what that plan looks like. Again, I don't think we got to answer that today, but I'm just letting you know that that that is a question that people have asked. Let me, let
me answer part of that question. And so on, on page six of 28 of this agreement, it says, therefore ‸ the city agrees to prepare an enhanced landscape and decorative fence plan for the buffer and assist the developer in the selection of playground equipment for the Harry T. moore center, which in the judgment of the developer, shall, uh, such plans shall not require
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agrees that prior to the issuance of the of the that should be
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it shall complete our calls to be completed the enhanced landscaping decorative fencing and playground equipment plan prepared by the city around the harry t moore center. So we we have control over what happens for those three items.
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Do we also send letters on these?
No, not for this type of project as a development agreement.
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planning and permitting that has to go on for the for the site plan is that a radius letter
yes if that yes if that goes before that'll be a planning and zoning as a large-scale site plan so yes that will have them right
so they'll get the notices when it
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the requirements in regards to renting I think I heard you said if any first-time homeowner assistance is utilized
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20-year rule applies but if a citizen was to buy a home without any assistance then there's no oversight
‸ the
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to to come in and most folks who are gonna ‸ come in are gonna ‸ gonna ‸ need some assistance the way we well the way we assisted the five homeowners was we went we utilized the first-time home buyer and down payment assistance yes sir and so that automatically trip trips a ‸ home ownership period and so and so again most folks who are who are within the range in terms of the income will need that assistance and so will therefore be
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have to actually come through those programs
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would happen with our properties again if someone comes in and doesn't need the assistance and qualifies to purchase the home and they fall within the 20 to 120 of AMI they purchase and someday they want to they want to rent out then there's no recourse that the city or anybody would have in that regard. So but but if you come through our programs, there are safeguards with regards to that.
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Is that
so during the 20 year time frame of the affordability period, if they had to sell for any reason or
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they would have to pay back every penny that comes back to the city that that was given to them.
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as
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They're forgiven after the 20 years. But during that 20 year period, they would have to pay it back
in full or does it
prorate?
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I believe it's in full
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it's
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it's prorated okay okay
thank you that answers my question okay do
we have any
other questions from mrs. Webster sir yes sir and I I
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I don't know if he submitted a
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we'll bring him up um do we have any other questions for uh staff for mrs. Webster council
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portion to council and open to the public. um let me do it this way first and foremost sir please mrs. Adams I know
you're
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compassionate do you want to say anything else but you spoke on the delegations I'm just saying this is a public hearing you can expound on this if you like
so
Um, I was kind of concerned when I made the
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I did have a question too because I think number three um they was gonna ‸ put a fence up
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but and then I know the museum is not open but the children do do
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concerned about the parking you know I know you did mention about when they come down to the housing, you don't want to park it on the streets and stuff like that. But what
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when they have their different events and stuff?
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Look at Larry Brown, ask him where he parks on Sunday, every Sunday.
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Every Sunday, over in your
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and he knows what I'm talking about
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would never yes
I'm I'm open as long as you talk to me I don't have a problem with you utilizing my facility parking yes ma'am councilman goings yeah
and And really,
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whatever that amount is, that some of that some of those funds could possibly be used for um paving as well. Because we talked about with miss Morgan um about potentially adding parkings in the back side of about a garbage dumpster. We met maybe a couple months ago with um with Public Works and Streets, and we talked about the parking in the back side I think that added maybe 15 or 10 or 10 or 15 spots in the back but maybe that's something that I know it's limited right now with the wording it says landscaping playground. Maybe that could be an added if we have any additional funds that might can go towards parking yeah yeah because I think at provost park their back parking lot they redid that one it was like miss
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um
the
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blacktop, that
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construction I mean obviously we we'd look at some alternative okay parking substances but but again I think I think that's you know if we have a parking problem at the uh at the museum that's a good that's a good thing. And so, and so we would look at bringing to, to the council some solution when that occurs. Okay.
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Very happy to be here and uh speaking to the council again.
‸ we have any questions for this young man?
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‸ Okay. Chair would like to close this portion to the public and return it to council. Chair ‸ like to make a motion to approve staff recommendation sir mayor just one point of clarification
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were made to the agenda. This also includes the, uh approval of the purchase and sale agreement because the hard copy I have does not mention that in the um recommendation but the online version that I'm looking at has the edits that were made to this agenda item. So
we do like so it's a man
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my motion to reflect your comment?
Please. The motion should be to approve the development agreement and the purchase and sale agreement, which are in your package. Okay.
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clerk we good you're going to make your motion deputy mayor weeks I will
amend my motion my second to approve the site plan and the purchase agreement
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approve
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this is a public hearing for the cdbg funding and home program funding for fiscal year 2025-26 based on last year's allocation the city expects to receive 119
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community development block grant funds from the u.s department of housing and urban development as a direct entitlement the city
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from hud as a part of the brevard county home consortium which is
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melbourne palm bay and brevard county the use of these cdbg funds must meet one of the three national objectives benefit low moderate income persons eliminate or prevent slums or blight or meet urgent needs
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public service agency use and a maximum of 20 for allocated for staff administration home funds can only be used to address the housing needs such as home purchase rehabilitation financing assistance build or rehabilitate housing or for rent or home ownership or for other reasonable and necessary expenses related to the development of non-luxury housing including site acquisition or improvement demolition of dilapidated housing and
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all these activities carried out with cdbg and home funds must be consistent with the priorities and needs of the five-year consolidated plan
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fy 2024 2025 action plan was adopted in 2024 the fiscal year 2025-26 action plan will be submitted
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2025 for submission to hud staff advertised a notice of funding availability along with the request for proposals using an anticipated funding grant allocations. Four proposals were received. All proposals were reviewed by ‸ staff review committee. the community The committee consisted of Florence Torbert, Housing
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Garmendia, Staff Accountant, and Charlene Neuterman, myself, Community Services Director. The four agencies that requested CDBG public service dollars were ranked by the committee
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the Salvation Army, the Community Services Council Aging Matters, Family Promise, and Central Brevard Sharing
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Promise, was first, the Community Services Council Aging Matters, was second, Central Brevard Sharing Center, was third, and Salvation Army was fourth. All were very close in scoring. The recommendations
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CDBG public
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The recommendations for the funding for each of the agencies are as follows. The Central Brevard Sharing Center recommends
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Matters,
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to use for administrative costs and for the Section 108 loan payment. uh The Section 108 loan payment was for the uh Dr. Jolie Smith Community Center, which opened in 2020.
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has to repay that
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in addition to our administration costs and
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In addition, the Home Administration Staff uh Administration salaries includes uh also a set aside for
chodo
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and housing activities and for the Home Buyer Assistance Program, which we discussed uh at the last item, which would be for uh specifically
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subdivision that qualify for home buyer assistance. As required by the
city
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citizens participation plan, staff are requesting council hold a public hearing to obtain citizen input and comments on housing and community development needs and approve recommendations on the FY 2025-2026 CDBG and home funding. Upon council's approval, a 30-day public comment notice listing proposed projects along with the corresponding action plan will be advertised in the Florida Today newspaper. The notice will also inform the public of the date of the second and final public hearing which will be held no earlier than may 27 2025.
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that are present here, and if they would like to get up and speak about their their programs, um they are welcome to come to the podium at this time um before we close it for the close it for the community. Thank you. So I have Family Promise, I have the Salvation Army, Domestic Violence Shelter, I have Community Services Council. and Ladies
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Come on.
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Good evening.
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My name is Tara Pagliarini. I'm the Executive Director of Family Promise of Brevard, and
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to say a few words. But most importantly, thank you for your long time partnership in
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of life-saving service hub.
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Family Promise of Brevard, our mission is simple but powerful. We keep families in housing so children can thrive. In front of you, you have last year's numbers. uh In 2024, with your help, we serve 3 708 families through our core programs of emergency shelter, eviction prevention, and housing stabilization. These are families who were families
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unhoused or were at risk of losing their housing. An additional 773 families accessed wraparound services on site at the firehouse
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Early Learning Coalition, and through classes offered by Brevard Adult Community Education. And additionally,
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are juniors and seniors. We wanted to make sure that those students not only were on track for graduation, but that they also had a plan for after graduation. Because we want to make sure that today's youth don't become tomorrow's parents facing homelessness and housing instability. And what I can tell you is that with your support, our programs work. 97 of the families that we serve in our programs exit in stable housing. This year, our goal is to serve over 4 000 families because, you know, we need to do more and go bigger or go home. But our goal is to not continue to serve more and more families that are unhoused and
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Our goal is to shift the numbers where we're working with families before they ever come to us in crisis. so we've begun initiative this
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to try to invite families into the firehouse that are not in crisis but rather they're stable and with our support we can actually help them build prosperity So there's a couple initiatives we have going on one is called um Art in Bloom We're actually ‸ starting these kind of gateway classes where we offer free art classes at the firehouse Generously supported by the young bomb foundation And we invite families. It's a free service families are coming in but while they're there We're introducing them to our financial planner and we're inviting them to our Workshops and we're making sure that they're connected to resources to maintain in their homes And then we are starting something called Family Fridays Family Fridays at the firehouse. We're going to have fun activities We're partnering with local entities and organizations like Eastern Florida State College Dental School where we'll do fun things But then we have other services there that help families be stable and to thrive And so tonight I just wanted to tell you that
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much more than a building It's a place of hope and opportunity And
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city to provide
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with everything that they need to have a
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next Good evening. Good
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Domestic Violence Program, and we are thrilled to be recommended,
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for our domestic violence shelter. um Our program has been around um
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the first domestic violence shelter in Brevard. We are one of two certified domestic violence centers serving Brevard County, and one of the things we do is offer shelter for folks who need it, and that is 24 7 365 days a year, um shelter offered to survivors of domestic violence and their children, if they have them. And we also serve the community who don't need shelter as well. So we serve survivors out there living in, you know, in our neighborhoods who need help with domestic violence, and that can be support groups, counseling, advocacy, like with court related type things. We do a prevention initiative where we're helping younger people recognize red flags of dangerous relationships, hopefully preventing this this
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that happens from ever happening. We'd love to just, you know, end domestic violence for good. So, like I said, we are thrilled to have some help recommended, um and currently we are using CDBG funds from
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to support part of our food costs in the shelter. We don't charge anyone for anything, and um so they are well taken care of, and thank you. We have our 5K.
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um But if I can share, I will. Yes, yes, yes,
ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Okay.
Any questions for me? Councilwoman
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Yeah, um I'm wondering, um with many of the federal dollars drying up, uh is that impacting you at all? How does your budget square off
you
have
significant federal and state dollars, and so we're, you know, like many other organizations, paying very close attention to what's happening.
Okay.
‸ Yeah.
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Yes, sir,
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I'm so happy to let you know that we are celebrating our 60th year of serving the seniors of
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County. Now we do a lot for in the
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area.
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that service
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residents. um We service
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Pal. We do their after school program. We do their summer lunch program uh in conjunction with Second Harvest. and
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we appreciate the fact that you your constant contribution and to help us out in our feeding program.
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we do transportation. We do in-home care. We build ramps. We do light housekeeping. We put grab bars in, smoke detectors. uh We do caregiver support. We
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um Most, of course, what we're most known for is our Meals on Wheels program and the ‸ congregate dining sites.
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our waiting list have the highest nutritional need, where they really need our help the most. We have 58 clients on the waiting list right now. We service over 90 clients, but 58 on the waiting list, which makes it makes it a struggle. It makes it uh kind of kind of hard to sleep at night. So those dollars that you contribute helps us ‸ take more of those people off the waiting list. And that's uh ‸ our core mission is to try and get that done. Food insecurity is not going away. 60 years, the waiting list still still remains. So uh we're going to do our best to continue to do that. uh Part of our 60th year celebration, as we're going to be doing an event this this summer, it's called uh Brews and
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So we had a golf
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donated by Lowe's. We're going to be selling raffle tickets for the golf
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And then we're going to be doing different events, which I could really use some mayors deputy mayors councilmen to come out and actually help me at Bug Nutty and at Hidden Level Brewing to help pour some beers, bring in some people, raise some funds, and hopefully we can do a little competition with raising some tips for aging matters and then selling some raffle tickets. um We've done it in other uh we did with
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it was great. I got beat by Mayor Price. But
i'd
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like to have a little competition with you, Mr. Blake. So, um you know,
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be a good time for everybody. And I promise you it's going to be like over a seven week period. We're going to go to different breweries and restaurants over the county, uh trying to do what we can to bring awareness to the program and
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Thank you, sir. Any questions?
Any questions? To you all, you play a very important role in our community. Thank you. We embrace you with open arms because we're thankful for your commitment.
for this appreciate you. And uh we love the people in this room because they all do a great service.
Yes, sir. We all do. Thank
you.
Mrs. noone
And that concludes my portion of the public hearing. You just need to open it up now for public comment. okay
Thank you, ma'am. Do we have any other questions from council? saying none,
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Please feel free to come forward and state your name for us and elaborate on this particular item
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me, twice. Chair like the closest portion to the public and return to the council. What are the wishes
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have a motion on the floor by Councilwoman Costs and a second by Deputy Mayor Weeks.
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gonna ‸ call the question. All in favor ‸ saying aye. Aye. Aye. eyes have it unanimously. Now we will proceed forward to Council Business number
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in reference of approval letter of to the owners and the
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This is a letter that will be disseminated throughout the community, those 88 homeowners that will have that direct impact on this. um
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the floor is yours.
Mr. Singer is going to take you through the letter. I'll tell you what you have in front of you
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a hard copy of the letter, but we also have two examples from Brevard County. And so
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in the crafting the letter. You'll see that there are a whole lot of similarities between um their letter,
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the letter that we've drafted for your approval. But I'll turn it over to Mrs. Singer.
Yes, so um we put together a letter based, like uh Stockton said, um on what the county has similarly done for similar projects.
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stages of the process. So we've included a little bit of an overview of the project, um what the ‸ mandatory connection uh ordinance hearing will be on the 13th, um and then what it looks like as far as grant funding and where we're going with grant funding.
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of what this process is as we start this the journey in this long process.
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the county letters as well, and happy to answer any questions that you might have.
Council, do we have any questions for Mrs. singer uh Paisano, gotta have a question. Just want to make sure everything's done decent and in order. Even though we have one of our council members on this on the council, this letter has no hindrance on her voting, correct?
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like preliminary matter okay for her from a voting conflict standpoint.
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I just want to make sure things ‸ done
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I'm just trying to understand this nuance. On the second page of the letter, under ‸ connection process, ‸ says it will be the property owner's responsibility to contract with an approved plumber to connect their home to the sewer system and contact the proper authorities. um In a letter that we were copied on this week, we said that under the anticipated project cost share in her local agreement, any payments to plumbers working on private property connections will be administered by the city. So is that correct? Is it that it can be administered by the city or that it will be or that it will just be the owner's responsibility?
‸ payments that would be administered by the city.
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um it will be the property's only responsibility to contact an approved plumber. um I would say a plumber. So I would strike approved from there. We do say later in the paragraph that the city of
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will provide in the future a list of pre-qualified plumbers that can perform this work for homeowners there. And so the the the way this is set up is that the
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um If you go through the listing of pre-qualified plumbers, then you can apply directly to the city to have those plumbers, to have them paid directly
And
I can say it a different way if if you didn't, but that's not clear.
So if we go through the approved list, they're paid directly, but we still determine if, we still determine which plumber would do the work.
We, we, this is, we would, we would, we would issue an RFP, a bid for an approved list of plumbers. We would actually ask them for certain qualifications, certain experience, certain expertise. We would have that approved pre-qualified listing for any homeowner who wanted to take advantage of the plumbers on that listing. If you took advantage of a plumber on that listing, you could, you could ask the city for a direct pay from the sorrow dollars and the grant dollars that may be allocated to the city to the plumber
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You wouldn't have to wait on a reimbursement of your expenses from the city. So if you're, if you select a plumber plumber off of the approved or pre-qualified listing that the city would come up with, there can be a direct pay component to that. You can go on your own and select any plumber that you want. And you are again on your own with regards to up fronting the payment to that plumber.
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um So, so just to be clear, you're striking out that one part about the, uh to contact an approved plumber that the owner's responsibility that's going to get struck from this letter. ‸ Yeah,
I would strike that and
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a pre-qualified list. um ‸ as I understand ‸ it's
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a plumber of their choosing.
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but, but I, I would just strike the word approved because we'll have a pre-qualified listing of plumbers.
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thank you sir
okay I have a card in the audience, but before I gave to the audience, uh council do you have any additional questions? questions Saying
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I have a card. Linda Dolphin.
Hello, everybody.
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‸ My name is Linda Dolphin and I'm a
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resident and I'm really here just to kind of talk about the process that we've been through over the last four years. um By the way, I think the letter should go out. I think everybody should be mandated to connect to sewer, but I have some other concerns. So what I'm really here tonight is to ask you to not just rubber stamp stuff that staff puts before you. um I was so happy when you wanted to move this sewer project forward. But
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since it was potentially based on an outdated example from the 1980s about water lines to other cities, not sewers for Cocoa homeowners. um Staff claimed that this was a precedent and no one questioned it. Meanwhile,
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for their sewer line in front of their homes and only if they chose to connect. In 2007, peach tree Street got sewer through a city loan. Homeowners paid nothing. Mayor Blake was on council in 2000
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these were major decisions yet
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information from staff to vote on. I mean, why not just say hold on? I think I remember some precedents where um where homeowners actually weren't charged. But let me be clear. The assessment really won't affect me personally, but it could hurt others. There are working families, retirees, people nearing retirement in our community. Just because they live on [address]. For some, this blank check assessment could be devastating. And here's what concerns me most. Mr.
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said the financial risks of the city should be passed on to homeowners and claim that this project meets the legal test for a special assessment. So my question to you now would be, why would you rely on that when they've given you some precedent about homeowners you know being charged for sewer lines in
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What I would actually be looking for is to see something on the agenda that could be considered a fact, not just an opinion that supposedly this is a special project that homeowners should be charged for. Even the utilities director now admits the project's purpose is to protect the Indian River Lagoon. that's a public benefit
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3.8 mile stretch from riverside drive through the city line at indian river is 3.8 miles this project j and project k are 0.8 mile segments only. None of our neighbors were charged sewer cost
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responsible for cost overruns. It wasn't required to move the project forward as we saw. Go ahead, go out and apply for the grants, get the bids. Secondarily, direct the city attorney to to issue a formal legal opinion on whether the assessment is legal while this process moves forward. Please stop rubber stamping. Please start asking hard questions.
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Thank you very much. Thank
you very much.
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do do my due diligence and I do collaborate, yes, with city
managers,
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staff, and city attorney. And I stand on my convictions. Any questions,
council members? Anyone else?
Do
you
have any cards there,
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at 1809 Indian River Drive. um
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was for 92 homes
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a deficit ‸ and then if you take what the counts came before the council in 2022, um the total between the homeowners estimate and the main sewer line was 8.2 to 10.6 as you can see you've already got a problem without inflation
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to 12 to 16 million. Okay,
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won't name names, and mentioned
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potential asset on the homeowners. You can do the math. It really comes out between 71 k and 114 k and
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That's how, and that's
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of the people live in their homes. And if you try to come to these people and say 71 to 114 k is what we expect for your assessment, that's more than the taxes and the property owners, you are going to destroy people's lives. and Everybody thinks the sewer is a good idea, and
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Thank you. Thank
you, ma'am. I'm gonna ‸ ask the question again. Do you have any other additional cards out there? Okay. Send that portion ‸ the chair, let me return it from the public to council council. What are the wishes of council?
i'll
make
a motion to approve ‸ i'll
second.
i had discussion
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stated from staff. And I second it. We'll open the floor for discussion.
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I was going to say, yeah. um I think the first thing I want to recognize that this was an impossible decision when it was placed in front of council. And it really took a lot of courage to move the ball forward. And I thank you for doing that because, you know,
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There's additional monies that that is supposed to match, which is where the additional money comes from.
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have worked. But nonetheless, it was an impossible decision. So you weren't
given
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great choices. And as this thing is rolled out, we've learned more and more. We didn't even have to make that decision until we know about if we get those grants or not.
I
think
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and the liability that that potentially uh brings to the city. And it would be really prudent for us to have some sort of formal
excuse me legal opinion. this my kind I just want to preface my pre-well clarify my previous comments about your participation in advocacy. I mean, this is about the letter. This isn't about the assessment and all of the other details. There is a complete misunderstanding.
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The ordinance that's going to come to the to
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There are so many more decision points that the council is going to have to face regarding whether they want to go forward with the project, whether or not they want to assess, whether or not if they assess what the assessment's going to be, how much money is the city going to get, there's a complete unknown regarding the construction costs. All of that information will come to the city council and there'll be numerous decision points along the way. The decision from the council was just to move the ball forward. It was my interpretation of it. And, you know, there's, and I, and I just want to make it clear that if the city council wants to assess, this project is the quintessential special assessment project. It's quintessential. There's a limited number of benefited property owners. And then
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but you have no idea what the costs are going to be, if any, on the, on the property owners. And, you know, the decision still has to be made whether or not to hire a contractor to do the project because you don't have bids. So this item is just about a letter
to
notify property owners that the city council will be considering mandatory hookup. And the ordinance has so many other details about the way the process would unfold. um you know, and I'm sure we'll have a robust discussion about it when the ordinance gets presented to the city council. And that tonight is not that is and do all due respect to everybody. ‸ Tonight is not the night to get into that level of detail.
Okay.
staff just wants to notify the property owners that we're going to be having a discussion about this mandate policy that will be really incorporated into an ordinance with great detail. so I'll leave you with that.
Yeah, just to say, from the home I appreciate that. From the homeowner's perspective, this says that we are responsible for any of the overage.
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going to have a strong reaction. I don't know. You know, I i will not sign a blank check. I mean, I never have signed a blank check. but so yeah, so so that's really, you know, the issue. And um it is pretty scary to the homeowners. And
also, I
wanted to point out that the motion did include the the notion that the homeowners would pay. That was a part of the motion.
so
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the ball forward.
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But part of that motion was that. Right. Right. So, I'm all for moving the ball forward.
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‸ Thank
you, Mr. City Attorney. And just on the letter, it says, you know, just for clarification, okay? um As I understand the letter, however, if the project expenses for either the public or private infrastructure ‸ exceed the funding available, the excess
cost
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will be paid by each property owner per the mandatory connection ordinance that's being considered.
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there
is detail in that ordinance. I mean, again, that's one of those decision points that's incorporated into the ordinance. ‸ council will have to face.
okay
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When you made the motion to approve the letter, was that with that part deleted? Do we need to put that in the motion? The part that he said to strike? The change in the letter?
I took it as being understood that would be the way that the letter. That was all I wanted to ask was
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approved.
Yeah, we we would, we would, that sentence would read once the main sewer line and individual laterals are installed, it will be the property owner's responsibility to contract with a plumber. And then on the, on the, on the sentence at the end of the first page that Mr. Garganese read that that is advising the homeowners, as he said, that you are considering uh the matter of overages. Now we may be able to reconstruct that
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sentence and make it a little bit more clear. And so if you, if you want to rely on,
um
city attorney and staff to, to restructure that sentence, we probably could make that a little bit more clear and we
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were thrown around but per the soro staff the
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Well, the, the numbers that she utilized were the staff cost projections, the engineers, um um estimate. And so we did some internal projections there. Again, this whole thing is you're trying to double up the 6.7 or at least for the through the water quality grant you're trying to do a 50 50 match, which doubles what you have. And then through the 319 grants, you're doing a 60 40 match there. And so the whole goal of it all is that at the end, there is enough grant funding to supplement the
sorrel
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funding that matches what we're going to get back from, a consultant to actually do the project.
‸ So the answer to my question is yes, we we need to change that letter. Is that what ‸ that
well
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yeah
we'll change it with, with a plumber. And then again, the sentence that says, however, the project expenses for either the public or private infrastructure exceed the funding available. The excess
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will be paid by each property owner per the mandatory connection ordinance that is being considered. And so we may be able to reword that to where it's clear that you, you guys are considering through this ordinance through an eventual ordinance or something. ‸ the prospect that if there are costs overruns, those would be there's a consideration that those would be borne by the private homeowners.
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um
proceeding
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to weigh competitive bidding requirements in approval to amend the current agreement between the
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through June
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2025
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multi-year piggyback agreement with RSC Insurance Brokerage, Inc. DBA Risk Strategies Company for continued benefit brokerage services utilizing the city of Tarpon Springs Agreement from June
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2025 to June
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And any renewal terms of the agreement authorize the city manager to execute the piggyback agreement, amendments,
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2025-273
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So our benefit broker agreement is coming up for renewal and to help save the city money, we were able to initiate a piggyback agreement with the
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confusing, but
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Group recently changed the name of their company to
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a different name. And a representative from
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if you have any questions. I
don't have a problem with this, ma'am. uh What's
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sir.
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That's your game plan. Okay, because
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and great benefits for our employees here. All 400 plus 11, sir. So our chair i'd
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by Deputy Mayor Weeks. just gonna ‸ call the question. All in favor saying hi hi eyes have it unanimously. Proceeding on the city business. Approve a grant application 1.8 million ex post facto for the non-point source management grant for septic to sewer project on the Indian River Drive. authorized the city manager to sign any documents related to the grant application. I want to just say thank you, Mr. City Manager and staff for letting this play out. First and foremost, when he talks about this particular item. the city manager sir
this this is simply there was an opportunity to apply for the 319 grant
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and so of the 6.7
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for the, uh for the homeowner saw it again, that was a preliminary projections. um we don't know what's going
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cost the homeowners to actually get those connections there. And so again, we thought we'd jump in because there were dollars available from a prior funding cycle. That due date was
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so we're seeking forgiveness because it was you didn't have a meeting in between the due date. The due date for the
granting
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approval of that grant application.
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sorry I'm looking at you and I said the wrong thing I so apologize. So do we have any public comment on this?
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aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. ‸ Okay next I guess we're two reports correct?
No we got city business.
Oh a
couple of items I think.
Oh I apologize and look at my thing and that's the last one I have on mine. Okay next what's the next agenda item then on city business.
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Oh. Oh wait. Do we?
Yeah.
Do we have another city? ‸ Yes.
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so sorry. I have all this paperwork on that. No we got to talk about that.
Okay that's what it is. It's not here.
Yep yep it's not here it was a walk on. Yes I just didn't stick it on my agenda thing so so does that is that you city manager are you the one who's going to speak on it who's going to speak on it? Okay. We're to the conservation area.
Okay I have one card I triple G.
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that's okay I went to the city manager to who was going to speak on it. He said he was going to try.
I'll gather here
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when the I think it's going to be the one that says uh
conceptual current or conceptual
try that one. Yeah. So I think this is uh the discussion a discussion item and uh direction regarding the creation of a trailhead with parking located on uh state road 524. For access to and we call it city parcel id 24-35-24-00-1 because making a distinction between that and and the actual Cocoa Conservation Area, which is under uh the management plan through the Florida Communities trust.
We group all of those together and we commonly refer to that as the Cocoa Conservation Area. But again, there's a reason for distinguishing between the two.
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so if you if you go to the to the what is that in essence the fourth page of the agenda report it summarizes uh I think where we are.
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for the florida communities trust only covers two parcels which provide for a trailhead and a parking lot off of uh ‸ cox road and through the cocoa bay subdivision.
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How
is it as an area map and as a current?
Put up the area map. So here here is here is uh that first bullet point and so back in 2003 the city through the florida communities trust got grants to purchase two parcels right in ‸ the in the center of the picture are the two parcels there. So so that big square two parcels that was purchased through a grant agreement by the florida communities trust. And if you if you note um that has an access easement out to 524. If you just go straight up on the uh on the um on the map here that little green star on 524 is an access easement that was granted to the city. And then if you look left to cox road you'll see there's another access point um
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can go to cox road. Or just pull it pull it down some more. Okay so so you'll see that on cox road per the management plan with the florida communities trust. There's another access point and there is uh parking for vehicle and bicycles. There's a proposed future facility. There's a restroom. There's a picnic pavilion. There's a play area with volleyball. ‸ And notice that in the entire plan um that's the only location where it talks about parking.
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So 524 is an access point.
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a public interest entrance and uh and uh ‸ restricted vehicle access.
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did happen. So we have a pavilion. I think with restroom there and we have some some parking there. So again um 524 under the agreement with the state was never uh a part of or considered to be uh in in a in regards to a a trailhead.
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And
so Mitch go back to the to the um that first chart.
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I'm sorry the third one. Yeah that. And so if he could zoom in.
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We're going to go to the left of the uh. So that I think that's
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that uh that uh ‸ diagram is is uh the trailhead parking. That was the original development agreement with integra. Integra uh is the company that built the apartments the integra apartments. And so that did provide for a trailhead and parking located off of state road 520.
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Parcel acquired from integra. That was about 137 acres. And ultimately to the cocoa conservation area uh parcels acquired through the florida communities trust.
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uh 2019.
Okay.
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That development agreement with integra was amended to delete that original trailhead and parking concept located off of 524. So integra needed to meet the city's compensatory storage ‸ requirements. And so they came back and asked to amend the agreement that was deleted. Um and so again no parking no trailhead located off of 524. But the city did still maintain uh if you if you look to the left of the uh of the um of the sheet you see the 50 foot access easement. ‸ City did maintain that. And then you'll see to the right of what was uh the concept trailhead a 55 foot drainage easement. Those are those two uh easements are maintained.
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So if you go to the current. That a trailhead at this particular point in time is not feasible because if you if you notice that the access easement. Which is uh ‸ which is indicated by the green or the blue or the whatever color that is line. Uh The pond encroaches upon that. So you don't have access to get to um to utilize that easement. Nor again do you have the ability to do a trailhead with parking in that location. Which was the original location of the concept site plan from integra. Because again they needed that to meet their compensatory storage requirements. And i'm saying compensatory storage and that's a that's a that's a planning term. Um compensatory storage is um is a is a water runoff issue. And so i think i'm explaining it as what the property what was being maintained on the property in terms of water. Pre-development you have to somehow uh compensate for that remaining on the property. Or in some location close to the property post development. Abby
that's correct.
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right so so so that's compensatory storage there. So again integra is utilizing what was the original concept of the trailhead and parking now as either their storm water storage or part of their compensatory storage.
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was originally intended in the original um concept or site development plan from integra that was ultimately amended to get to this point.
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easement on it.
Um
and we put and we we the city inked in that agreement many of the same uh considerations as in the in the in the um management plan for the for the uh cocoa conservation area. I.e you can do recreation uh ‸ many of those things that are listed in the plan that the state allows us to do on the property that they acquired for us you can do here. The
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a trailhead in the conservation easement in the wetlands, am i am I calling that in the wetlands, you're going to have to seek permission from St. John's Water Management District. It's probably going to um going to trip some additional um compensatory storage requirements for the developer. um And what else am I missing on that? at Wetland
mitigation.
And so there's there's also wetland mitigation. So in essence, you would be asking St. John's to let us uh build a parking lot of trailhead in wetlands. And so
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uh they got to get them to permit that. That, again, probably trips um requirements for uh the developer i.e they're meeting their they're meeting their compensatory storage requirements as built. If you alter that in any sort of way, they're probably not meeting those requirements. Again,
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And so the thought was, and
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go to number one as the option. Right. And so the number one option is, Mitch, go back to the area ‸ Before,
can I ask a question on this map?
Sure. Go back,
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I just,
yeah, so, but we do have the easement, which was a part of the original agreement. Still
have the ‸ Water
trust.
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where is that?
The access easement is. Is
that one of these lines?
the The blue line and left to the blue line to the property line. Is that
underwater? It
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ladies and gentlemen. We got two choices. Number two is much more complicated. It involves parties, Integra, St. John's, Water Management, and FDOT. But if we choose number one, direct staff to determine the costs and other necessary actions to construct a trailhead and parking off Cox Road.
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we're not dealing with Integra anymore. We can do it ourselves with number one. Is that, is would that create any any any complications or convoluted, uh number one,
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It is costing out the access and the trailhead and parking off of Cox Road. It's a it's under city city jurisdiction. And so the only the only uh people that we have to coordinate with are ourselves.
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from St. John's. It would be uh the less intensive of the of the permits.
What's a self-certification?
The self-certification is when you submit for a project project that does not impact wetlands, and uh which this is in the uplands. and
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impervious uh area and and there's a project that is less than 10 acres. So
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Yes.
uh So on that note, I'll make a motion to approve number one for discussion. I'm just looking for a second.
uh ‸ second.
Thank you, sir. Okay, we'll give it a shot, ma'am. And then, um Councilman
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make sure I got everybody. Then we'll hear from Triple G if we didn't answer your question. Okay. Okay.
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because you're talking about uh doing something with the retention pond that's already there? Because i'm I meant to stop and take a picture
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the pond is. ‸ a huge area. In fact, I took, I went to the property appraisers site and uh took a thing of it. Hold on just a minute here. So I can show you. Yeah,
that's that's owned by the folks who own. Integra,
right? No,
no, that's owned by the folks who own the uh the Dollar General property.
No, when I pulled it up on the property appraiser site,
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my? we
can
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we can we can we can pull up the property appraiser's uh website. But the, the Mitch, can you put your cursor yeah on? So so if you go if you go down, Mitch, go a little bit to the left.
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the property line that is owned by um the folks who own the parcel that the Dollar General was cited on. And we can go to the property appraiser's website and it may show you better there. And so in between where its cursor is and the blue line, the green line, whatever the line is, is the easement. That's the 50-foot access easement.
Well, when I went to the property appraiser site,
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Let's let's go to the Mitch. Can you go take us to the property appraiser's website?
And again, there's a huge, huge dry area there. In fact, they've already got kind of a road that goes back there uh you don't even see that retention pond at all for 524.
Go to map view, Mitch.
error
Because you didn't hit map view.
and And I don't mean to stay stuck on 524 other than because it's near where the train station is going to be. It's right across from
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Reels Park. It just, to me, makes more sense.
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east of Cox Road,
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to your right, your other right. No, no, go up. Go up. Right from there. Go up, Mitch.
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‸ and see there's no water. It's
sitting
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goes all the way over there and it's all dry in there.
Ma'am, it goes to the, to the line that, that we have on the other picture. That was,
that, that
was at a particular point in time. But
this is all dry and they even have a dirt road. You can see the road right there and it goes back. Yeah,
but
it's it's not that way today, ma'am. It is.
I drive by it yeah multiple times. ‸ That's exactly how it is right now. yeah
It's there's water there. And I and I I convinced myself, too, that it was that it was dry. And I drive by all the time because, again,
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the officers pointed out.
that road, that dirt road they have that goes back. That that's what that is. And that is there now. That ‸ Yeah,
ma'am, that's our that's our drainage easement. And so let me take you back to let me take you back to the so that that is.
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the right of the pond. You're absolutely correct. The dirt road is to the right of the pond.
The drainage easement.
Yeah. yeah Sorry. You're
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again, it's it has sat there dry. I don't think I've ever
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there's water in the pond. This is current state. There's water in the pond. There is.
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the pond. And so and so that is the drainage easement that that does appear to give you some ability to drive back into the uh the conservation area, or at least the donated conservation area. Now, let me let me have Abby walk you through why it's not wide enough to be used as an access easement.
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once the project was completed. And so if you see um the drainage easement, you see the the illustration of the ditch within that easement. ‸ yes that first page, yes.
Next.
As he enhances that
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sir?
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the bottom line, the bottom line, she's going to tell you there's not enough width
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focus in, please. Okay, so within that drainage easement, you see the ditch outline there. And
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Okay, since the ditch is a um a steep drop, and it's deeper than five feet, though there will be a need to to be a protective system in place like a guard rail So it starts getting a little more complicated. We would need additional easement to meet criteria to make it safe to travel the access road. So now you have you have the apron on State Road 520 uh that you need to submit to FDOT for for permitting. There's the design of that. uh There's uh
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um you you It looks like there will be some type of guard rail or or say in safety system that'll need to be uh placed there. And um also, like I mentioned, that proposed parking is in a flood zone. um And uh yeah, we would
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in a wetland.
So
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wetland?
Yes, that's a flood zone.
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I
just
want to. try to help you and so I want ‸ I want um ‸ I want this good for for the for the people, but also for the conservation area. And again, um I and I understand in a manner of speaking about what happened here. But the original 50 foot that was donated by the home by the private citizen ‸ was only to be used from 524 to give access to the cocoa conservation area. And
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And did we report it that we lost that? And
we still did. We still have we still have the
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That's exactly the point. You still you still have the easement. It's just underwater. and And again, but that was an amendment that was approved. uh I
understand it was approved at the time. i Again, but in reading the documents from back then, yeah ‸ I sat here and went, I don't know how in the world that that that happened. You can't undo it now that and again, I from going by there,
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But I know from 524 there, I see no water. It is just a giant green
yeah
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But don't drive down. And I. know
But the fact that she's telling me that that's a flood zone further in that I understand better that that would make it much more difficult to get back in there or do something. um So. And
so the
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access easement, to simply go back to Integra and say, allow us to use the drainage easement as an access easement. What she's saying now is because it's not wide enough, you not only have to go back and say, allow us to use it as ‸ drainage easement,
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the the easement. so So so so again, and that is again, that's
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a number of parties is Integra. It's a F dot for the apron. It's a
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John's for the permit. um
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you see is that sort of roadway, if you will, the easement. And I did the same thing you did because I
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on that, that
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I wasn't focusing on the pond, you know. and so And so and so and
so
it would be to utilize that again, you would need to expand the easement. um There is the sloping that creates a sort of hazard situation because it's kind of steep.
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that are outlined in option two, option one, go back to the uh to the uh map area. Again, option one is is what we have outlined in the management plan with the Florida communities trust. And that is access point off of Cox ‸ trailhead and parking uh off of Cox.
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at
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with all the traffic going through. Right.
Well.
But anyway, I i will go ahead. I mean, whoever's next. Councilman, huh?
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I could have sworn a while back. Was there some interest? I know that corn a lot there above the uh Cox Road possible entryway. Was there some interest in developing that? Was there something? That's, that's, um that's an artist.
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‸ So from the other side of the Dollar General all the way up, it's under development. Yeah, I think that is the
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Thank you, ‸ Yeah. okay there's nowhere else.
So i'm I'm assuming that that development
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already sealed. because I was going to say we could possibly, you know, if we could do a partnership on and bringing this uh trailhead to life on the Cox Road, but I guess if they've already got their agreement. Yeah.
They're, they're, they're signed and sealed and under construction. Yeah. They, they are. yep
yes
They are under construction. ‸ Very
much so.
Any other questions?
uh that's it. I just, just looking for ways to try to, you ‸ make it work at a cost-effective way. So. Option one.
Okay.
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then
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and then I'll call the question.
oh so i I have a, a, uh a client that I deal with on Cox Road and it's one of the only, uh homes that are on Cox, which is, uh
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And they own probably about 30, 40 acres. And, um
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because the Mud Lake water runs through their property. um and they constantly spend a lot of money, on, and they help us more than what we truly realize, um to keep that water flowing. And so, uh they are very adamant and maybe, um Deputy Mayor Weeks, that you may need to have a conversation with with that
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under the name of
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And they definitely do not want a trailhead on Cox Road. um ‸ because two things happening that next door to 10 55 there's a lot of homeless coming into the property, which I think eventually is going to be. uh They've been doing a lot of probing out there, so I'm assuming it may be apartment complex or something coming in on that particular property next to 10 55 um But they are really, really close to where the trailhead is. And so and I do understand that
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signed a petition two or three years ago. They didn't want the access road access area in their neighborhood, period. And I think it was over 70, 80 different people that signed that. uh I think that was at that time that was Councilman or Rip
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at the time.
Yeah.
And so but but it's it's it's it's some of those same issues that that come up and the things that we you may not see because we don't live there. And so she raised that to me about department complex. And she also uh said the same thing about bringing that other element to that
role,
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which is fairly quiet. You know,
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but it also invites some other things as well, potentially anyway. So I do want to let you know that that
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that you probably can have
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it. I like the idea. But if I vote, yeah. oh my Lord. Yeah. So. ‸ But but but i I do like the idea of having another access point because Coco Bay residents, as you said, they don't they because sometimes there's a lot more traffic than just cars that come through. ‸ yeah
um
Okay. Where to start? I think the big issue between Cox and 524 is that 524 actually has recreational value. It actually will draw people. Cox Road is industrial. um I'm just at the time that this was being developed, there was nothing on 524. so
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um I have actually if you go, you see the 524, I've actually
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numerous occasions. So it isn't always wet. You can usually, in fact, you can usually pass through. But I mean, if there's a good rain, yeah, it'll be, it'll be wet and it's muddy in areas uh if there's a storm.
um
Did ‸ we got Florida,
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Because this varies, you know, in the document, it's pretty specific. We need to contact them.
We didn't need their approval because, because that's not, they didn't give us grant dollars for the Allegra.
They gave us the easement. No,
no, they didn't.
there
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was a private homeowner, a private property owner who gave us the easement.
Okay. It
was actually Joe Mayer who's a, who was, who's an engineer.
‸ okay
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You know, we have the parking that is at that park. I mean, the few people that would be using the conservation area on any particular day, unless they're getting you develop some sort of event, wildlife event. um there is parking
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there in terms of traffic lights, in terms of crossings.
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through the neighborhood, and the
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yeah, when he called, um
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school kids have said, you
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hill and everything.
um ‸ but it really concerns me doing it on Cox Road just because of the, really takes away from the recreational value. um
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don't have many good options here. i have one more
option.
And the guard rail that would just be a matter of putting up a guard rail if you only had walking in
access
And no parking because you could park across the street at the park.
If if it was if it was just foot traffic, yeah um then I don't believe there would be a need for a
guardrail.
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Actually there
probably would. It says you wouldn't need a guard rail if there was stable, um
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So there there still will have to be some type of safety measure in place.
And and very honestly, we we would never suggest that the city endorse parking over at the park and walking across State Road to access it. So, I mean, it's just,
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don't think that that that would be in the best interest of the city and the citizens.
Because of safety? Yes,
ma'am. Yes, ma'am.
And there's no plans to put any sort of crosswalk there?
Well, future that that hasn't that the the design of the expansion is underway right now, right? uh uh
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mean,
i mean certainly, Abby could keep an eye on that or
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that. But that, but again, that's, that's not in the, uh in the near term.
uh
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I did discover one other little piece of parcel where the fire station is. That little triangle, if you go up to the right,
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which I don't know if there's enough room to put access right there. But it looks high and dry.
This
long long triangle, right? No, keep going. One more. Right there. that's owned by the city of
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that whole
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Now, it's down from where the, from Juni Rios Park, but we own that whole parcel.
‸ It's a fire station, and so, and so, Chief, you you guys, like the driveway to the left of the picture,
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that, is that, uh
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do emergency vehicles go in and out of that? oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
that's actually where we come in and out, and we actually were approached uh back during PNZ when they were building the apartments complex next door. They wanted to, they approached me first and asked us if we would entertain going to the city manager to give them right away to build a golf cart path to go from ‸ the apartment complex behind the fire
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the fire station, one. Two, there's no safety or security back there, so if anything happened, and three,
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I mean, when we built fire station three almost 10 years ago, Mayor, I believe you were still here too, they ‸ brought in ‸ truckloads and truckloads and truckloads ‸ of dirt to actually build that up to keep it from being in a low-lying area. So, if you walk back behind there and look back there, that's really low-lying
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so we would need, we would
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we'd have to mitigate that
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okay, that's what I need to see. Yeah.
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I know normally you're used to hearing from me about TPO, but
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the agenda, nothing to report on transportation for you.
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in two weeks. uh
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talked about.
oh wait a minute. Time out. Are you talking about the conservation ‸ are you talking about reports? No. Conservation. Okay. Come on.
I was saying I'm not doing reports.
Okay. All right. Okay.
uh So, Councilman
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uh this uh person you talked about who who does all of this uh uh water mitigation out there at the conservation area. What was really interesting was uh after the last hurricane that went out and somebody had put up plywood in front of the four storm water culverts to back up Mud Lake and it overflowed and washed out the road, the little path road to go back there. So, that wasn't good. uh
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What I gotta do with what I said. uh ‸ So, uh also uh we mentioned the existing pavilion in restrooms. Well, we know for a fact about a year and a half ago, two years ago, those restrooms were reworked and then vandalized and they're not opened anymore. uh As I continue up my list uh for conservation area, we have a problem with ATVs out there still, even though we did put up some wood barricades. Well, that just makes it more fun for the ATVs to barrel through the wetland to get the water pond to get there. So, uh that's not good. uh You know, for
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Bay Access, we did have a volunteer who was opening and closing that gate every day. And when he couldn't do it, he would call me and I'd do it until we had a problem out there and he had to call
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‸ somebody's out there dumping stuff and guess what? I go out the next day
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see nothing there.
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What do I hear from Public Works? They had to go out and pick their ‸ up. ‸ Come on, people. uh uh If we ever did have access off of 524 or Cox Road or ‸ now even
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Bay, what are we doing for our security?
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He was
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I just want the the facts on the record there. Yes, sir.
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the gate.
Well, I
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have a verbal agreement and uh there are three of us who do the museum. We do both the museum gate and the Travis gate. And I had been doing
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Conservation. And then left that we had a meeting up there, this gentleman stepped forward. And. Yeah,
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I thought we had inked agreement with an agreement with you to lock and unlock the gate. You got busy with the museum and then this gentleman stepped up. And so when
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police showed up and he had locked the gates, then they he didn't have anything to prove that he was an authorized representative of the city. So correct. So that's being fair to the circumstances. And so and so not being an authorized representative of the city, they said, don't don't lock ‸ or unlock the gates.
i i I understand. He initially before he bailed out, he said, get me a letter. And it was like, hey, we should have a letter
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for doing the museum because, you know, who am I? Right. So, you know, I'm on the path to get a letter and then I get the text. No, I'm done with it. You handle it. And it's like,
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so uh i I can approach him again to see if he's still interested. I would still like to pursue getting an agreement for the three people who do the museum gate. And if you want to throw me on CCA as well, sure, if I can. Yeah,
I think I think we need to do that. Remember, I told you there are certain things we don't we don't talk about. But oh yeah. yeah So so so we need we do need to to have some sort of agreement with them
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is going to fall on uh public works. And so so so i'm
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the police chief to explain why uh that happened to him again, because when PD shows up, he's just some guy, you know, and so so if
we
can get him back to the table. That'd be great. Yeah,
just like me. that I would. I hope I can get him back because, you know, I've got other things on my plate. So
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okay you're good in my book. uh oh where was I? I was almost done. Stockton. uh uh The security.
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uh Access to existing trails. uh uh councilwoman weeks i think uh you know uh google earth and property appraiser is great boots on the ground are much better. And from both Cox Road and off of 524, you better bring your waiters okay
no
matter what season it is.
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And off of Cox Road, that overflow that I was talking about that was blocked, it it's going right through off of Cox Road entrance. So both of those are, I mean, that's a what you know, that's that's working its way down. by play okay, sorry. And last but not least, uh I'm very disappointed that we let Integra off the hook. And that's what started all of this. If they wouldn't have over developed and we would have got our 50 feet of easement, we'd have an access. ‸ bring your waiters Hey,
let's make it let's
make it a kayak
launch. Someone just took a kayak uh with Cocoa High students, right, Councilwoman
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oh don't, oh you're gonna ‸ tell
my son Don't steal her ‸ Don't
steal my thunder.
I will not, I'm not gonna ‸ gaslight.
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I know, it's tough.
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I forgot to turn it off.
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I'm just, ‸ so I've always wondered about this. You know, we have this large, you look at the the large conservation or natural area that has not been developed yet. And
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I remember 2014 in the fires. And that's the way those trails ended up in there to begin with, right? ‸ You know,
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any burns, that that would be dangerous. um I know that that doesn't happen unless you have really have to know what you're doing to do that. But in this case, the trails, if there were a fire, and we know one day there's going to be a fire fire.
this
is, ‸ you've got a lot of pine needles that are gathering on the floor of that area. um It seems to me our fire department is going to need some access point at some, it's and and we need to do some maintenance of the trails. And if that can also be a public benefit, it
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do with that.
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they're called fire breaks, and how they maintain fire breaks. And that is normally not on private property. That is state-owned property or properties that are in the urban renewal sprawl area, where there are high density. homes. So this would not meet those requirements for the Division of
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Okay.
Well, I mean, most of that is not private in that the city owns it or the county owns it.
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But the trails that are there already, you're saying they created those. And did the
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Fire Department, but we were the ones fighting the fires, right, in 2014? Not
necessarily. I mean, I don't know. I was not out here for that during that time frame. But uh ‸ if there was a fire there, Division of Forestry plowed those lines.
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So they're now used,
those same trails are now used for foot traffic,
for people hiking. Does it mean that's what they were meant to be? so
I know. They
maintain that for the fire break, so it does not get into populated areas. And then once the fire is out, they don't come back and continue to maintain that.
Okay. But I'm just saying
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is that um there ends up being a social benefit as well as a functional benefit um for firefighting. ‸ okay, that's all.
Okay, we have a motion on the floor by the chair and a second by Councilman
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She's gonna ‸ call a question. All in favor of saying aye Aye.
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Okay. Any nays? No.
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have a unanimous move forward. Not unanimously, 4-1. I'm sorry. I stand corrected. Okay.
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here. Yes, it's just
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Yes, for option one. Yes. Okay, reports. This concludes tonight's meeting. Reports.
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Yes, sir. Thank you. uh It'll be pretty short but sweet. I know you don't like um to bring things before Council to vote on, but we just learned today uh with the drought index, it normally goes up to 800. We're well over 500. The county instituted a county-wide burn ban this afternoon. uh Obviously, some of you saw what was going on in Palm Bay, so I would ask councils consideration and vote to authorize the city attorney and city manager to draft a resolution to fall suit with the county to institute a city-wide burn ban until further notice.
What are the wishes of council? I'm in favor. Okay, we have motion floor by Deputy Mayor Weeks, second by Councilwoman
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All in favor.
yeah
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it's one of the few times I like to do things, ‸ only a few. Just only one time, but it's county-wide Yes, sir. Point well taken. Sir, anything else for the betterment of the great city? Let's see the manager. ‸ Okay. uh Who will, Deputy Mayor, excuse me, Councilman
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uh uh Okay, which person, which odd would like to go
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for it,
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don't
have pictures. I just have a couple things. Yeah,
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not going to reach us
Thank you, sir. you're such a good person.
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I just wanted to kind of show the council when I see them. it has those Are
they tiny homes? No,
they're still modular. Yeah, they're modular. oh
And they're made out of steel.
I got a company. He has to put his
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right. uh so this is my, I just want to show this one. what My daughter, ‸ she had her first meet in Florida. She was at University of Florida this past Saturday. uh she was running against all SEC runners. but She got baptized pretty good. uh But it was an excellent experience for her. She was ‸ president
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absolutely so this was her and the relay. And as you can see, they were dead last. You don't see anybody else in the picture. So, uh but they tried the best that they could. But they're number two
in
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their conference. SEC is a different world uh There we go. uh So my son, he
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‸ commitment. um
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he is the youngest one in the group um but it was really good for the community to come out
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um And so this was him receiving the um award and initiation. So, um trying to start them off in the right path. So,
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Just trying to get the kids going in the right direction. um
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I went around to different uh high schools um between me, or Coach Hurley Brown, and some other people. Just uh highlighting our administrators. um So, we gave some prizes to principals and counselors. um
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in different uh career fields. And uh so we go around just trying to encourage them to, um we got an event coming this
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a.m to 12 p.m
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12 noon and it's for all males
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out to learn about um what's
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what's your plan. And trying to create
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that's
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deep voice guy, uh LSU Tiger, national champion. He's going to be here uh in
town
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uh bringing some words and knowledge to our young people. um This was
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award ceremony this past weekend um for for the Jack and Jill. And I was honored to to uh be a nominee, but I was a nominee with my grandmother. oh
That's so brave
just just just Just to be able to even be in the same room as my grandmother getting or any kind of award. Just that I'm 45 years old and she's 88 and and she's still serving the community. um
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She looks good. She does. Yeah,
I love and appreciate her, so I'll let you know.
i'll
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um in the city of Melbourne. She does it every single um
uh
Thanksgiving. ‸ And so, and she she always does it all the time. every The whole community always come to her house and eat. uh So, I just want to highlight her on that. um This was at, um as I told you last meeting, we are working with,
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people are trying to just work with McNair Middle School. I was blessed to go to their meeting uh
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um and to just encourage students and parents to keep their kids at McNair. Encourage sixth graders to bring their kids to McNair to keep their enrollment up. And uh thank
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me to speak to the parents. um ‸ So, this was at rock ledge High, uh 30 minutes before that meeting. Again, pouring, trying to just continue pouring into our young people. I was i was blessed to just talk to um young young people from all over the county, because you know all this transfers, everybody transferring everywhere now. But, um it was a blessing to just pour into the to the kids.
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weekend. uh Thank you to Public Works. Thank you, miss Morgan, for organizing uh and and City Manager for uh approving the Public Works for bringing topsoil. And as you can see, they're using that topsoil for for good good use. um They grow, they're planting tomatoes and onions and all kinds of different things. So, um shout out to Mr. loris and the crew um for for getting that done. And again, thank you uh Public Works for for providing the soil. And that was it.
Where did you plan sir?
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first town hall. And uh I again invite all
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I'm trying to remember all the folks who are going to be there for my town hall. I think I'm going to have a really good turnout. So, um
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well, the library uh limits what you can have. I will say that. But
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I just want to bring up that I think even though we've had these chairs are coming through, we need new chairs on this dais. These have been here forever. I'm sitting on the floor. My chair will not go up and down. And so I would really, really, really like us to get some new chairs,
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somewhere.
it will find out chairs depending on your height.
Adjustable, yes, would be a lovely thing
and actually still adjust And
that's all I've got.
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All right. uh So
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but um I've been reading in the media a lot about the hospital closing and some of the. uh Plans that's being proposed by Orlando uh health, and
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but. um I just wanted to jump in on that conversation as the
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feel the same, but. um I just would like to make a bigger a pitch to uh Orlando health from the city that, you know, ‸ I think I would want to welcome. Their new hospital if they're going to build one um here and
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um I know you sit on the board, the the help for it, but. um Yeah,
I can, I can give you a little update on that.
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foundation coordinates a meeting of maybe 40, 50, 60 people each Thursday. ‸ It's a team's call. You guys are welcome to sit in on on it uh with me. And so, uh the, all of the providers are there. um County fire,
rockledge
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fire, uh city of coco city of
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uh representative Mayfield. the mayor's been there. um um all of the hospital systems are there, including Orlando health. And so they're on the call, uh they, they are, um working on, um service level solutions there. And so let me give you an example. So space coast health foundation a couple ‸ years back had an endowment of about 65 million.
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all of those, uh stakeholders to submit, um for requests that are directly associated with the hospital having closed. ‸ have you been impacted? How is your service being impacted? And
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um Health First has submitted a request.
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for some um some infrastructure. And then you also
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staff. And so because because again, the wait times are going to be tremendous in terms of the emergency. So so we met see we submitted uh a staff request there.
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It's a great conversation. um They're really focused on how do we actually address the uh the service level deficit. You know, as you know, um um Coastal only did non-medical transport. Now they're doing BLS uh transport. So that was a change in in the service model for the county. um And so in addition to that, uh Mayor Blake
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or East Central Region. So she is she is the head of hospital operations for Brevard
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Indian River County. And so we did meet with her um just to ask how can we be value-added because the hospital is closed, you know, ‸ they're not turning back on that. She didn't give us any insight as to
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site a standalone emergency room because those are now becoming popular. And so again,
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um in terms of, you know, properties that we may or may not have. ‸ But we gave her some things to consider. I just got a response back from her today that they're actually looking at that. In addition to that. um um And very, very honestly, we we talked about hey there's five acres that would be same service area. um Consider that. So I ‸ gave her the appraisal and I gave her the uh the last RFP that that went out there. and and And so hopefully she said she will schedule with me after next week to sit down and talk about that again. And in addition to that, uh
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uh ‸ funding?
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pitches, because remember, they're they're one of the chief
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there. And so and so so we we we we the city, you all have asked and
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them to assist in the funding of soccer many pitches and
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So so I'm hoping that. uh As they as they seek additional involvement in the community, they'll fund one of those initiatives. I'm
glad to hear that. I just wanted to make sure that we was um being represented in that conversation. So it sounds like that's that's what's being conveyed. And uh I don't know if it was relayed, but, you know, I'll go and put it out there when we were in Tallahassee. um There was conversations by officials that there was a willingness as well to you know throw funds behind any land acquisition to see a hospital go up or a medical facility. So I just wanted to throw that out there. But other than that, um that's all I have for District two. District four. Thank
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thought it was a really good community. meeting We
build
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it as a clear light community meeting and
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Miss Morgan for being there. um Charlene. I'm gonna ‸ start forgetting people. Of course, city manager and none other than our chief was there. um so we also had county planners because they are looking at an effort along Clear Lake Drive um using some of their cbd CDBG funds to make infrastructure investments. uh FDOT was there to talk about the road which people seem to be ‸ calming down about.
Yeah, I mean, yes honestly, I love that road. okay
It's just so much more interesting to drive down it now than it was before.
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A lot of people got exposure to that facility
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And then the other guest we had was from the um adult and community education center. And a lot of interest in that. um So I've arranged to have my town hall on October. I think it's October 25th. is actually going to be there. And that will provide plenty of room.
oh yeah.
Plus, they have all the, you know, top shelf IT stuff for any sort of presentation. So, um looking forward to that. This is becoming a familiar site now on Indian River Drive.
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Sorry. But this the issue of landscape trailers blocking the road, um I guarantee you if you drive down Indian River Drive uh between 10 and 2, you will have, you'll at one point, you'll have one lane to get around and hopefully you can see what's coming around that bend. The trailer takes the entire lane. um These are homes that have very long drives. And I know it would be difficult to try to maneuver the trailer into the drive. But still, nonetheless, it would be so much safer for everybody. In fact, several months ago,
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car on the other side as I went around the trailer. So, I'm really hoping maybe this year, maybe this year, um you know, we can talk to some of these guys and get encourage them to start moving their trailers up into the long drives along there so that it's not a risk to the public. And, yeah, I had so much fun. This was, like, the, one of the most fun things I've done being on console is um um go out with the marine biology class and their annual kayaking trip, which is at Manatee Cove. And
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It was really good for the kids. We had a great guide. um And we got a lesson on these horseshoe crabs,
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five, their genetic history is 500 million years old. They live 20 years. They mate during a full moon. So this photo up in the, um the left top corner is the male. The female
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That's the black widow spider, huh?
Well, it can be it. If he can't, if his tail isn't strong enough to flip him ‸ around, get him back in the water. ‸ But yeah, uh out there with Principal
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and thank you to Mr. Sandal, the marine biology teacher who organizes this. And also I learned that they have blue blood, the
horseshoe crab. They have blue blood from the copper. Yeah.
um versus iron in their blood. um and ‸ that, um
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and that will give you good luck.
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Did you kiss the shell?
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luck for you. Okay.
And here's some more good news for the manatee. um
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wall that we're going to be moving off of septic. um we're going to be focusing in on, on spills and, um the importance of the Endangered Species Act. I know a lot of people complain about that or don't understand it, but I, I don't think it's ever really educated the public at
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species as it is about a host of an endangered species. species that go with the elimination of just one in this case if you have a keystone species they support hundreds of other species in some cases and um so this should at least be some support to continue some grant dollars we would hope and that's my report. oh I also wanted the utility advisory board to come back
maybe that'll happen
I know we're going to be discussing that at some point
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the benefit of the advisory board is that it it's another window for the public uh another opportunity to educate people on specific issues and
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that um I'd like us to bring that back that's it for me. i
want to say thank you to all council and staff city manager city attorney all the great citizens
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and just bring it to you
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Happy Earth Day. I ask that, you know, we continue to have the blessings of these great United States called America,
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we all love.
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a motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn.
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