City Council

City Council Meeting

Date: 2025-02-25
Status: City minutes and machine transcript available
Source: CivicClerk event #42
Also captured via: YouTube mirror (LPU-UdOfdU4) ↗ — alternate recording of the same meeting; primary transcript shown above.

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Built only from the City's minutes (2247_02_25_2025.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

Listed present when the roll was taken: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss
(Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines.)
Absences: the minutes print an “ABSENT” heading with no names under it.
Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Anthony A. Garganese (City Attorney), Stockton Whitten (City Manager), Monica Arsenault (City Clerk), Abigail Morgan (Public Works Director), Rebecca Bowman (Finance Director), Charlene Neuterman (Community Services Director), Jonathan Lamm (Fire Chief), Evander Collier IV (Police Chief), Jack Walsh (Utilities Director), Samantha Senger (Communications and Economic Development Director), Robert Beach (Chief Technology Officer), Luci Ribeiro (Planner), Megan Crutcher (Help Desk Support Tech)
Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (8)

Agenda: Regular Meeting of February 25, 2025. (2025-117) — to approve the agenda for the Regular City Council meeting of February 25, 2025 as written (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 2
2. Minutes: (a) Special Meeting of December 23, 2024. (2025-118) — to approve the minutes for the Special City Council meeting of December 23, 2024 as written (moved by Lavander Hearn, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 2
3. Minutes: (b) Regular Meeting of January 14, 2025. (2025-160) — to approve the minutes for the Regular City Council meeting of January 14, 2025 as written (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 2
to approve the Consent agenda (moved by Lavander Hearn, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 4
1. Cirrus Final Plat. (2025-127) — to approve the Final Subdivision Plat for one (1) parcel of real property totaling approximately 15.74 acres, to be subdivided into two (2) lots (Lots 1A and 1B), known as Cirrus Subdivision and a commercial outparcel (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 5
to authorize Councilmember Goins to attend the Advanced IEMO in March and for Deputy Mayor Weeks to attend the IEMO in June (the minutes print this motion after the heading “Travel Authorization for IEMO Conference Attendance. (2025-171)”; the motion's own words do not name that item) (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 6
1. To Provide Direction to Staff for Funding and New Policies, if Necessary, for the Indian River Drive Septic to Sewer Conversion. (2025-17 — to move forward with the septic to sewer project and put it out to bid with the following conditions: 1) Mandate all 88 homes to hook up 2) Utilize all available grant money 3) Any cost overruns will be paid by the 88 homeowners through a combination of a one-time hookup fee and a special assessment … (moved by Lavander Hearn, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 3-1; ayes: Patricia Weeks, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins; nays: Mike Blake — the City's minutes, p. 9; the vote on p. 10
to adjourn the Regular meeting of February 25, 2025 (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 11

Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)

$11,300 — Council: Consent agenda item 3, approved with the Consent agenda. “Approve a Budget Resolution to Amend the FY25 Budget, BAF # 25-041-A, in the amount of $11,300 for the additional funding related to the additional services provided by the consultant.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (2247_02_25_2025.pdf, p. 4); fiscal period not recorded)
$155,000 — Council: Consent agenda item 4, approved with the Consent agenda. “To Approve a Sole Source Purchase of a Vapex™ Radical Odor Control System for the Jerry Sellers Water Reclamation Facility from Vapex Environmental Technologies of Cocoa, Florida, in the amount of $155,000.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (2247_02_25_2025.pdf, p. 4); fiscal period not recorded)
$200,000 — Council: Consent agenda item 8, approved with the Consent agenda. “Approve a Resolution Amending the FY25 Budget, BAF#25-039-A, in the amount of $200,000 from Assigned Fund Balance for Economic Incentives for the following projects: NEPA Environmental Analysis for the FSP Grant for the Brightline Station, Design for the Brightline Station, and conservation credits needed for the surrounding land.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (2247_02_25_2025.pdf, p. 4); fiscal period not recorded)
$1,335,000 — Council: Consent agenda item 9, approved with the Consent agenda — authorized up to (a spending limit, not an amount spent). “To Approve the Final Ranking of the Firms for RFQ Q-25-03-COC, Engineering Services for the Pineda Causeway Phase 2 Water Main Design Project; To Authorize the City Manager and City Attorney to Negotiate and Execute a Multi-Year Contract with the Top-Ranked Firm, and with the Second-Ranked Firm if Negotiations with the Top-Ranked Firm are Unsuccessful, in an Amount Not to Exceed $1,335,000 for Design Services.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (2247_02_25_2025.pdf, p. 4); fiscal period not recorded)

Agenda (the City's wording)

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I. Opening Matters

1. Call to Order
2. Invocation
3. Pledge of Allegiance
4. Roll Call

II. Approval of Agenda and Minutes

1. Agenda: Regular Meeting of February 25, 2025.
2. Minutes: Special Meeting of December 23, 2024.
3. Minutes: Regular Meeting of January 14, 2025.

III. Awards and Presentations

1. Proclamation: Proclaiming Saturday, April 5th, 2025 as an Arbor Day Event. — 00:02:41

IV. Delegations

V. Consent Agenda

1. Approve Cooperative Purchasing Agreement with Cintas Inc. for Uniform Rentals and other Workplace Solutions based off the Omnia Partners/University of Nebraska Contract # 001299
2. Requesting a road closure date change and a road closure request outside of the CBD.
3. Accept Amendment Number 1 to Grant Agreement No.24PLN48 between the Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP) and the City of Cocoa related to the additional services provided for the Vulnerability Assessment grant. Authorize the City Manager to execute the agreement. Approve a Budget Resolution to Amend the FY25 Budget, BAF # 25-041-A, in the amount of $11,300 for the additional funding related to the additional services provided by the consultant.
4. To Approve a Sole Source Purchase of a Vapex™ Radical Odor Control System for the Jerry Sellers Water Reclamation Facility from Vapex Environmental Technologies of Cocoa, Florida, in the amount of $155,000. Approve a Resolution to Waive Competitive Bidding, a Resolution for Project Contingency, and authorize the City Manager to sign any agreements, purchase orders, and change orders up to the authorized amount.
5. Authorize City Manager to issue purchase orders for six new vehicles utilizing available Cooperative Purchasing Agreements in accordance with the City’s purchasing policy. Approve BAF# 25-040-T, shoring up the project budgets.
6. Consideration of Financial Request from Cocoa High School (School District of Brevard County)
7. Announcement of Travel for Mayor Blake and City Manager Stockton Whitten to Washington D.C. from March 5th - March 7th, 2025.
8. Approve a Resolution Amending the FY25 Budget, BAF#25-039-A, in the amount of $200,000 from Assigned Fund Balance for Economic Incentives for the following projects: NEPA Environmental Analysis for the FSP Grant for the Brightline Station, Design for the Brightline Station, and conservation credits needed for the surrounding land.
9. To Approve the Final Ranking of the Firms for RFQ Q-25-03-COC, Engineering Services for the Pineda Causeway Phase 2 Water Main Design Project; To Authorize the City Manager and City Attorney to Negotiate and Execute a Multi-Year Contract with the Top-Ranked Firm, and with the Second-Ranked Firm if Negotiations with the Top-Ranked Firm are Unsuccessful, in an Amount Not to Exceed $1,335,000 for Design Services.

VI. Public Hearings

1. Cirrus Final Plat

VII. Council Business

1. Travel Authorization for IEMO Conference Attendance

VIII. City Business

1. To Provide Direction to Staff for Funding and New Policies, if Necessary, for the Indian River Drive Septic to Sewer Conversion. — 00:40:05

IX. Informational Agenda

1. In accordance with the Financial Operations Manual (FOM) the City Manager shall submit to City Council in the form of an agenda item any approved change orders to construction contracts that the City Council has authorized the City Manager, by resolution, to approve in excess of the City Manager’s spending authority...
2. In accordance with City Code, Section 2-74, at the beginning of each month during the fiscal year, the City Manager shall submit to City Council data showing the relation between the estimated and actual income and expenses to date.
3. FY 2025 January Budget Adjustment Report
4. Informational Only - The City of Cocoa's Open Board Vacancies.
5. Bi-Weekly Report for February 6 - February 20, 2025.

X. Reports

XI. Adjournment

XII. Notice to the Public

Transcript Partial transcript

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We would like to have ‸ invocation by Deputy Mayor Weeks, Pledge of Allegiance,

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to give us wisdom in all of our decisions and that we know that we're doing your will. And Lord, we ask you to bless each person here. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen.

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I pledge

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allegiance to the flag

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the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for our all.

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Clerk.

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Yes, sir. Mayor Blake.

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Thank you, sir. You present, ‸ ma'am.

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Deputy Mayor Weeks. Here. Councilmember Hearn.

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Councilmember Goins. Here.

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Here. City Attorney Garganese. Here. And City Manager Whitten. Here. Thank you.

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you very much, ma'am. Proceeding

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25th, 2025. What are the wishes of Council?

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Move to approve. Second.

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We have a motion on the floor by Deputy Mayor Weeks

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All in favor by saying aye. Aye.

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have it unanimously.

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What are the wishes of Council?

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Motion to approve.

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We have a motion on the floor by Councilman Hearn. Second. Second by Deputy Mayor Weeks.

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All in favor by saying aye. Aye. Any nays? Aye's have it

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Proceeding on to awards

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and presentations. Proceeding on to the third

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and final item of 2-3, managed regular meeting of January the 14th, 2025. What are the wishes of Council? Motion to approve.

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have a motion

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Second. Second by

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going to call the question. All in favor by saying aye. Aye.

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Aye's have it unanimously. Proceeding on to awards and presentations. Proclamation.

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Would everyone just stand? We just stand right here like this.

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mean, ‸ sorry

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I'm in the classroom.

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read this proclamation into the minutes. Whereas the holiday called Arbor Day was first observed with the planting of more than a million trees in Nebraska. Whereas Arbor Day is now observed through the nation and the world. Trees can reduce the erosion of our precious topsoil by wind and water. Lowering our heating and cooling costs. Moderate the temperature. Moderate the temperature. Clean the air. Produce oxygen. And provide habitat for wildlife. Trees are renewable resource giving us paper. Wood for our homes. Fuel for our fires. And countless other wood products. Trees in our city increase property values. Enhance the economic vitality of the business area. And beautify our community. Whereas trees, wherever they are planted, are a source of joy and spiritual renewal. Now I do Michael C. Blake proclaim on the behalf of the great city of Cocoa and its council. I'll proclaim April the 5th, 2025 as the Arbor Day event. In the city of Cocoa and urge all citizens to celebrate Arbor Day. And to support efforts to protect our trees and woodlands. Let's give ourselves a round of applause. Thank you very much. You may be seated. The tree provides a multitude of resources. Yes. And if it wasn't for a tree, where would we be? So thank you. Okay, proceeding forward on the delegations. I have four cards here. One, two, three, four. First on the list will be Ms. Theresa Clifton.

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Good evening. Theresa Clifton with

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1020 Cox Road. I'm here this evening to thank the city council. Those of you that didn't show up. Alex Gorns, but we won't say who.

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But I brought some graphics for you to see for Sunday's event. We're really very grateful that the city continues for ‸ 73 years to embrace the human pet bond.

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If you want to go to the next one. These slides are showing the. Oh, I do. Oh,

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our volunteers and this was our

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So they graciously came

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And then we had some great volunteers at our bake sale. And we had the

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They handled the children's play area. And then we have a pet parade of which all of these little guys. Are I just a sample because I only have three minutes. So I just am doing a few of them.

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So I'm super excited because dogs drool cats rule. I'm sorry. That's how I feel about it. But we had mostly dogs. But this little kitty came all the way from St. Lucie County. We did have our lure course out. And as you can see, it's so healthy for the dogs. They get lots of exercise and it's very entertaining. This was some of the pets in the pet contest. And we crowned our king and queen and our the third one over the young man. That's the companion pet look-alike. I know it always gets a laugh. And then our queen was to the left of me. Probably

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And then the cat won the best costume with her outfit. So we appreciate all of the judges help with it. And this is a photo of all of the winning

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And thank you so much for coming out. It could include Councilman Goins, but he didn't show up. We missed you. And of course, we could not do it without our sponsors that support it.

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that came out. It was a beautiful day. And we do promote responsible pet ownership. Everyone picked up their poop, which is super important. Yeah, we talked about

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And all of the vendors had a great time. All of the dogs had a great time. All of the people had a great time. And all of the kids who came out also had a great time. So we are really very appreciative.

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this all of these 73 years, we are seeing a great reduction in the number of unwanted pets in our community. And I give high

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1952, the mayor was one of the founding members. So I just wanted to share that with you.

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I couldn't. And the local businesses that came out, they all had a great time, too. And for those of you that were not able to attend, that was our 19th annual. So maybe you can attend at the 20th annual next year for the Mardi Gras pods in the park.

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Society. But moreover, it educates our community on the responsibility of responsible pet owners. And for that, I greatly appreciate your time.

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thank you for ‸ show up this year.

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No, the pig didn't show up this year, but the cat showed up. So it was kind of a, you know, we got a cat. So, yes,

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tell us, and

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food that you provided for the judges.

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Oh, yes, because the last time I was here,

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feed us, I will come. Oh, and I had Papa John's Pizza brought out pizza for the volunteers and the judges complimentary this year. So I'm sorry ‸ that you missed such a great time, Alex.

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church, man. I came from church.

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Yes, he did. So, but it was, it was really fun.

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20.

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Okay, it's on record.

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Yeah,

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I was gonna ‸ say, I'm so sorry, I missed it. I was at the unity in the community. But I was gonna ‸ say that I got a call from a constituent that I don't normally hear from a lot. They just happened to be in the park

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And they were just so delighted. They called me, made a point of calling me to tell me about it. Awesome. What a great event to have in Coco. Thank you.

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Well, we make everybody follow the rules.

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you can bring your pet. And they have doggy do stations for the, you know, the poop. And that everyone follows the rules

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So we do really appreciate and are very

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the whole family.

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Thank you. Hold tight, ma'am. Hold tight. I just had a quick question. How soon do you know in advance when it's gonna ‸ be held?

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Normally we book it the day after.

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So it's whatever day after he does. I know this year that things get

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He just did a concert. So whenever he books next year. If he doesn't, then we just try to do it within that Fat Tuesday timeframe in February. Sunday seems to be the best.

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know it interferes with church, but we did it on a Saturday once and people didn't like that. So, hey, after 19 years, we're doing it on Sunday.

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Well,

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even if you started it after 12 o'clock. But anyway, I just wondered how far in advance because obviously the further in advance, the easier it is. You know, because it's something I would love to come and help and judge on. But

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absolutely. So what you're saying is next year I should come and talk to you all in January. Yes, ma'am. December would be better. That would be awesome. And I would be happy to do that. Thank you for the desire to participate because we do really appreciate it. And even though animals are low on the totem pole, they have great meaning to many of us. So thank you for that.

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So you can get that date from Gail.

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Oh, okay. ‸ Well, I will be sure and share that. So it can be on next year's calendar sooner.

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And again, we thank you for having a family friendly event where everyone can participate.

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Kudos to you and your staff. A phenomenal job as always. That goes a long way in the community.

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That's why I wanted to show the volunteers, even the Rotaract Club, they ‸ always support us when they come out to do those programs. And these are, you know, they're basically to meet kids in college. So ‸ they really do have a great helping unit in that. So we do appreciate that as well.

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Thank you, ma'am. Look forward to seeing you soon.

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you.

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Good evening. Thank you for having me.

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Thank you, council. Thank you to the left and the right. All

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right.

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I just, you know, like to say a few things. I thank you for listening to me. And I know things is not speedily and it don't happen overnight, but God's still in control.

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All

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right. And

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He has his family.

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And he has a city attorney that got his back. But I have a heavenly council that's got my back and he's best in the business. Amen. Amen.

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you know, when God sets something in motion, it cannot be stopped. God has set this water deal in motion. Okay. God has not told me no yet. So when God tells me no, I will stop pursuing it. So then, you know, I was very fortunate to be brought up by some really older gentlemen's that

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that learned the experience to give you the experience. So I was very fortunate for them older gentlemen that really put my

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in life to move forward. You know, and they told me there's three types of people in this world. There's people that wonder what happened. There's people that watch what happened. And then thank God there's people that make stuff happen. But it's a collective group that makes stuff happen. It's not just one. But you know, it's inspired by God. So I'm very thankful. And you know, when people tell me no,

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ballers someone or goes against their wheel or does something heinous. That is a no no. But other no's is a little different. When I pursued my wife, my father-in-law said no. And when you have a double barrel shotgun pointing at you, and I mean no disrespect to anybody with guns and thankful for the law enforcement.

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this girl. You got to go. Well, that stirred me even more.

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So, you know, and ‸ this is an endeavor. And I know many things. So I'll get quick here. I touched out to Morgan Associates.

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whistles on the satellite boulevard. And I just told him to give me a ballpark figure with the new route from my house to the end of satellite. That's with city approval, city's grants. It all can be done. I've done, you know, I know it's just willingness and you don't need any, all this stuff. But he give a ballpark of 250,000 and he said it could be less. But I'll go ahead and leave it to y'all. And after this meeting, I'm going to take a small break. God said to be still a minute and just let things move forward. So is there any update or anything or no, sir? If y'all forward what I forward to y'all to Walsh to get a general idea.

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Okay. Well, I'll wait upon when you come back. It'll probably be late April. So thank you.

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Thank you for the blessings. Okay. Proceeding on. The next item will be Ms. Chris McPherson.

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Good evening, beautiful people. I'm just here as a thank you. When I've talked to the kids and we talked about work that y'all are doing, my student leaders are known for their thank you carts. I brought y'all some of them today. So you can add that to your wall of, wall of hope that hopefully all of you have there. But our kids, as they trampled out in their ponchos and umbrellas after we talked about the crosswalk, are super excited about it. They're hoping to be a part of when we get our crosswalk out there on Dixon. They want to be a part of it. They wanted to come here and talk to y'all, but I told them we only had three minutes and

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So they would like to invite y'all to come out to the school. Come see us. Come see what we're about.

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that are on there want to be more involved. Some of our older kids are a little better at getting involved. Some are not so good, but they want to know who y'all are as you're out here representing them. I know several of y'all have been with us there.

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So we would love to invite members of the council to come by, join us, fellowship with our families. These are all the people ‸ that helped y'all get here. We want them to know who y'all are too, so that when there are things to talk about, they're here in these seats to talk about them. But we definitely are trying to bridge those gaps for our families, get them more comfortable with their elected officials, with the people that are representing them. Know your names, know your faces, so that when they see you in the Walmart, they can run up to you and say hello too. It's important for our families to bridge those gaps, especially when there's so much harsh in the world. We want them to know that the people who are out here fighting for them know who they are and know where we are. So they just wanted me to extend that thank you, extend the invitation to come visit. They get special certificates and badges whenever they lead tours. So please come out.

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‸ A special thank you to

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Charlene, who's being a part of our recertification process right now.

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So we are showing them what we're made of, showing them what we've

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the rest of the county.

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hopefully

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community partnership school, but we need community support to make that happen. So we'd love to add your guys' names to the list of people who want to see that next bridge happen. So our kids continue to have that wraparound care from VPK all the way through when they're graduating and

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Because

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They got better graduation rates than we do. So, yeah, so we're now in a competition. So we'd love to.

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best of us all, competition.

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Oh, yeah, we love competing. But if you'd like to join us for our spring festival March 8th, two weeks from now, from 12 to 3, it's just an opportunity for our families to come and fellowship. So just come say hello. You don't have to come as the council members come as a member of our community.

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our partners. So we'd love to have you there.

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Thank you, ma'am. Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you for being responsible for our greatest possession. ‸ That is our children.

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the consent agenda item.

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the wishes of council?

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‸ Motion to approve.

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Motion to approve.

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Second. Second by Deputy Mayor Weeks. Chair's going to call the question. All in favor by saying aye. Aye. And

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have it unanimously. Proceeding on to public hearing.

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Um, this is the request to approve the final subdivision plat for one parcel of real property totaling approximately 15.74 acres to be subdivided into two lots. Lots 1A and 1B known as serious subdivision and a commercial, uh, out parcel. Okay. Two things. As you know, it's going to be a public hearing. So I will hear from the public, but I would like to hear from our planner, Miss Lucy. But just let me do my formality with your blessings, please.

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Mr. City Manager, ‸ you want to say anything, sir?

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Yes.

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sir. Thank you, sir. Ma'am, the floor is yours, ma'am.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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2021 under ordinance 03-2021.

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dwelling units on 13.4 acres designated as the multi-family parcel and 2.25 acres reserved for future commercial use.

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528 and west of Industry Road.

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plan to develop commercial parcels as phase 2 of the project. Highlighted here in green, as you can see along 524 is the phase 2, that is the commercial parcels, and then in the light blue is the multi-family.

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The phase 1 component consistent of the 280 apartments

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issued by the city the same month. The ‸ framework group has demonstrated ‸ a strong commitment to architectural excellence, keeping with the elevations previously approved by the City Council, resulting in a high-quality multi-family development that enhances the city of Coco's residential landscape. The inclusion of well-designed amenities, such as the resort-style pool and vibrant community spaces, further underscores the project's commitment to

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providing residents with an exceptional high standard multifamily development in the city. In July 2024, the applicant formally submitted, in this case is the frame group, submitted the series subdivision final plat application. The proposed final plat seeks to subdivide this parcel

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by Home Depot into two lots.

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that's here highlighted in green, to facilitate future commercial development

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the development agreement.

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review have revealed the submitted application and found the final subdivision quad application to be in

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substantial

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compliance with chapter 18 subdivisions. This project is also consistent with the comprehensive plan policies

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aligns

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with policy 1.1.2.9 supporting commercial development and that is to accomplish by designate designating a portion of the site for commercial use, enhancing access to

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alignment with objective 1.1.9 the mixed use design encourages walkability and reduces vehicle miles

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flexibility,

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efficient land

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use planning, aligning with the city's goals of fostering you know innovative

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So I'm here to request City Council's approval of the final subdivision plat, for the series of division in accordance with chapter 18 sub division and appendix A zoning of the city code, subject to the following condition that the final plat must be recorded with the clerk of the circuit court of brevard county within 30 days of this city council hearing or approval

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any questions for mrs lucy Okay, seeing none, Chair ‸ like to close this portion to council and over to the public. Please come forward and state your name. And your uh your concerns are this particular item for public hearing number,

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Going once. I'll go ahead.

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Go ahead, sir. A couple concerns. ‸ submit a card, please.

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oh okay. I didn't know I had to submit a card. I'll do it next time.

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This time. This

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time. go Just

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talk first. Okay. I

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didn't know you had to do it twice. I thought it

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was just open to the public without a card.

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put it in the

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But the storm runoff of all this, of the new 524 developments, don't get me wrong, people need a place to live. But you just said there's 300 units there?

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The next subdivision, the next subdivision. and But the storm runoff water is what we're concerned about.

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Groves like we've never seen ever before. And it's due to all this relocation. I don't know if this is allotted or who takes care of this of the storm runoff water. And that parking lot will have so much contaminants. I don't know if there's encatchments there to catch this. At the end of each parking lot, we used to make a little ‸ thing when I worked for the Department of Environmental Protection. You know, at the end of the parking lot, it's a thing like a pond, so to speak, that has plants and aquatic things that catches all the debris that comes off. You know, whatever starts somewhere in, somewhere else, regardless of where you push it or where you take it. But keep that into consideration. You know,

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be allotted. We used to get home now in just a jiffy, but it's almost from Clear Lake to where we live, 45 minutes to 50 minutes now. And that

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And I thank you and I apologize for not filling the card. No file. Just please submit your card,

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sir. ‸ Thank you, County. Anyone else from the audience? Going once, going twice. Chair ‸ like to close this portion to the public and return of the council. Chair would like to make a motion to approve the recommendation stated by the staff

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known as serious subdivision and a commercial

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on my questions after the vote. It has nothing to do with our vote, but it's a question about the project itself. So

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I don't want to mix it in with the

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motions

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Okay, then you can turn your little hat off.

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I was just going to say, this is a project that I'm particularly proud of because it is a redevelopment project. So to address some of

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this is a project where the land had already been cleared. um And it's the

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you're familiar with them. So it redeveloped the land, and they took into account they had to meet standards for stormwater collection, that sort of thing. So this particular project, although it does, like you say, it adds more cars to the road, this particular project should not be a burden stormwater wise Well,

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that's a magnet Sir? sir So,

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anyway,

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question. All in

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unanimously. Proceeding on to council business... i got a question. um

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lot that was there. um And i'm I don't know if

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was made to do this or the owners of the parcel that may own CVS or

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Why did they have to put the signs inside of the access roads to block

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um entry points that it has signs blocking. Maybe two or three signs at each entry. ‸ you know... Do you have that... You don't really know the answer right now.

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um So they have signs that that say... yeah

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So they are um um red ‸ triangle signs. Nothing on them, but they're they're they just...

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They're called road termination signs. um I'd have to look at at the at the um the plants okay and see if they were, I don't recall seeing those. Yeah, yeah, I just, part of the connection of the parcels. Okay.

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Yeah, I just wonder because I, I guess now it stops people from, even, even the people who live in apartments, they can't go across the parking lot and vice versa. You can't get to ‸ unless you go all the way around. to the ends to get to the apartments now. So, okay.

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I'll look in. Okay. Thank you. I don't recall seeing all right as part of the review.

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vote, uh there's future plans for commercial development in that lot or, okay.

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‸ Do we know what?

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Yeah. uh not yet. um in the past, we did, uh

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now we do have, a new developer is interested in maybe doing, a professional surface like a dental office and they're looking into, um maybe, um maybe a restaurant like a small fast food. We're not sure. Maybe do three business, but we still, we're not sure because they haven't submitted anything, but it was just. some

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pre-op

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meetings and discussions, but nothing official yet. okay

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the Zoning sets up commercial retail office. All ‸ those things, right? Lucy.

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Yeah. So if you look at it, it was part of the package, the development agreement. If you take a look at that, there's restrictions when the kind of uses are allowed in those all parcels. So you can take a look and you have

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Okay.

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Okay. Okay.

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training that the city budgets for annually in our, in our budget. We have budgeted for two members

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sessions. One's in March and one's in June. So we're just asking for authorization to, um for the additional member to attend.

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Let's cut to the chase, ma'am. Let me let me address the white elephant in the room. We have two slots, but we have three people applying.

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I think it's imperative because we've all did the phases of Emo

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I'm asking you to fundamentally graciously agree to one of them who would like to go and who would like to stay. That's what I'm trying to

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ask.

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and just be understanding.

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is in March and one is in June.

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No, this one's for March.

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was for the March conference. It's for March 6th and 7th. That's at the um Lake Buena Vista um Embassy Suites Hotel. So that the budget for that, that's the more advanced training. So that

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council member. That would be for the advanced courses. um So we got the request for Council Member Goins and Council Member Hearn. And then the the new, for a new council member, that was for Deputy Mayor uh Weeks request. That one's in June.

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out. So we just have the dates. So, okay.

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So, so is it, is it just about the amount of council members or is, it's really about the money, correct? About how much money it is for three, the total? That's what puts us out of the budget.

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Well, per our training, um um process. and we bring this in front of council to document the approval of it. So the purpose of this is to document the authorization, um and who's going. So that gives the city clerks, the authority to book the travel and make the registration. Right.

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All the reason why I ask because I know if, ‸ I know that the hotels are expensive and if it helps for me to not use a hotel and me to drive back and forth, I can do that too. If that's, you know,

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event, uh that conference. Okay.

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So now it's down just to one.

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Okay. But I,

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but I'm, ‸ eagerly, to hear from councilwoman cause cause her line is on council.

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are you good Yeah. I'm good. Thank you, sir. Councilwoman calls. uh

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yeah, I was just gonna um ‸ ask about the other Florida league of cities conferences. Are we budgeted to attend those? Because um that was my primary

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interest. The budget is an estimate, um and

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of when we, um you know way before these conferences are put out. So say they we estimate the registration,

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and then sometimes the registration comes out and it's 325 or that sort of thing. So it's an estimate where we budget for a hotel, breakfast, lunch, and dinner, you know, the per diem and that sort of thing. So each conference, um like the League of Cities and all that, are all separate items in the budget that are estimates. So

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the Emo trainings are a separate item as well. Correct.

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So but we understand the directions. So we're going to register Deputy Mayor Weeks and Councilman Goins.

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i need a form of emotion so i need a motion you. all

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Deputy Mayor Weeks to attend the

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the event, the training

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what can what can we do so we won't have this issue moving forward ‸ do and i know it's difficult to do but now that we know say for example

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what i when i was talking to um miss arson out about this earlier the um the conference that the fbc leo conference like like this week for example it wasn't budgeted in and so can we just make sure that maybe that gets budgeted because more than likely some one of us is going to probably end up going to that conference so um i think that'll help us in this situation

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yeah yeah and we'll think that we make notes as things happen and

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like I said,

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is an estimate.

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okay. We try to

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plan. We can't plan for everything.

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All right. I appreciate you.

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Okay. Moving on to our final item of tonight. As you know,

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know how many times we've dealt with this before but we are going to address the concerns so please submit all your cards so we can proceed forward in a very reasonable time. Item number 8-1 to provide direction to staff for funding and new policies if necessary for the Indian River Drive septic to sewer conversion we had a councilwoman deputy mayor weeks to bring it forward before us and then Councilman

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three, excuse me,

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had several questions that he asked ‸ reference pertaining to if it's a mandatory connection. How do we mandate this and apply to 88 homes? The enforcement measures that should be brought back to address it, but also be willing

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my question that I've always asked and we do have existing policy thank you sir that's going and I know you have to recuse yourself up councilwoman because I'm coming to you. The existing policies, we do have one to reimburse the city. Also, who would pay for the clawback from the county if if all 88 did not get on the septic from septic to sewer system? Who will pay for the cost overage? Okay. Esquire Garganese would you like to say anything for the record sir I'm gonna come to Esquire Garganese then I will hear from you councilwoman

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of business that she needs to handle right up front okay I

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have

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it's from the ethics Commission not to do with any sort of corruption but

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could gain or I could lose by that vote I was not recused, though, from stating facts, ‸ right?

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that's elected officials have the ability to participate.

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‸ an abundance of caution that when there are voting conflicts of interest, that council members just simply just step down and not participate at all just to avoid any you know any issues so but

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I do have the right to state facts because I have five facts that I would like to state and they are facts

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yes ‸ at the appropriate time in the proceeding you could do that

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can I do that yes ‸ a

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of these things,

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you know, you may have heard before, but they're worth putting out there in front of us. And one fact is that in 2016, our then mayor and leaders from every municipality in Brevard County signed a proclamation and pledged to promote the half-cent sales tax referendum to

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fact According to the on-site sewage treatment disposal system remediation plan that we are required to submit to the state August 1st J&K is

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nitrogen or pollution to the IRL per year fact I've been on the council six years and we have never decided how to manage cost overruns beyond contingencies the fist Boulevard stormwater project specifically serves residents of the Broadmoored Acres neighborhood that's a fact we had significant cost overruns beyond the grant dollars and contingencies, which is also a fact.

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two large upscale developments surrounding I 95 and 528 fact Coco's utility department is currently working with Brevard County utilities to provide sewerage services

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and then make the connections.

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our comprehensive plan in the sanitary sewer element,

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reads, the reduction in cost to new users may be made it deemed necessary or beneficial by the city to accomplish specific goals. For example, environmental concerns. Or economic growth. Or another example, customer base growth. and so I will just leave it right there and thank you for your tolerance and discussion for

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Yes, the half cent sales tax was passed in 2016. and um consistently uh over the last four years um when it has come up, or six years, um um

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um um uh um I'm would like at some point to know

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they have both voted in favor of this before. and um perhaps what has changed your mind on that.

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They run on electricity. If the electricity goes out, then in fact I've printed out a thing um that says that um the

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septic will generally hold 200 to 250 gallons. And they account for 50 to 75 gallons of water usage per person each day. It doesn't take long to fill up that storage area. Once that capacity has reached the ‸ wastewater will begin to back up into the pipes and eventually end up in the home. Also, there's something on the top that you can undo to cause to let the sewage out of the

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septic systems, which is why, again, it is not a good idea. uh Sewer, one and done. um I also have heard the uh concerns about the um the coquina rock and I read the report and it said they did not when they did the boreholes did not find as much coquina as they expected. I also talked to

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middle of that area. And they hit no coquina at all when they put the sewer in for Riverwalk, which I found very interesting and

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in the world there's any dispute on this project at all. uh There's plenty of grant money. You can go back and get more once you show. so I saw a watch when the

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and uh they wanted to know why we had not applied for other grants, because there are so many, uh so many groups out there wanting us to do this. and

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one has cost one homeowner a dime to get hooked up and

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been hooked up so uh it just

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world we are still sitting here discussing this, when it should be sewer one and done, get it over with, and let's modernize cocoa I mean this is our legacy people and

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just something that we need to do. And you can tell them a little passionate about it. So thank you for listening.

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Thank you very much. deputy mayor weeks I think we're all are passionate about it especially just like you stating, having to listen to your constituents. and I have to as well uh Mr. City Manager.

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this but we have the staff report I think we need to clarify um the

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projects, and those are that's a joint effort between the county and the city, but the city um is not expensing that project and so mr. Walsh can explain that project uh because, again, it was represented that uh that we are uh somehow subsidizing that, and we're not. And so I'll have him start

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to the sorrel projects and

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Thank you, sir. Yeah, um I was approached about, I don't know, a year and a half ago

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they Obviously, there's

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They have the Sharps area, which is north of 528 along uh Indian River uh Drive,

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area, that that that whole zone, but out of the city limits. And uh the current the county does not have any sewer in that area whatsoever. uh Obviously, they had some projects designated by the

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basically for anybody who is connected directly to the river, including those Sharps areas and so on. And so uh the utilities director said, well, you know, we could get, obviously, we have grant monies on the table as well, just like we

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uh he asked if it would be possible in the future, instead of us building new infrastructure to take that sewer away, like a lift station and a force main and so on. uh We

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if you know, we don't have a contiguous, smooth area of our outside northern limit for the city. We have some pockets and we have some utility infrastructure that reaches up in that area. He asked if ‸ we would be interested in treating that flow if they were simply collecting it, like, and taking care of the other side of it. uh I talked to the city manager at that time. uh

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a bulk wastewater treatment rate, because we don't have a way to build them. uh We wouldn't have any costs other than it would be to treat the waste. They would take care of the infrastructure. They would take care of the citizens that are part of Brevard. So if they had a problem, they call Brevard. and We don't, we don't have any interest in that. uh We would only be taking the flow. I alerted the city attorney at that time, too, that we would eventually need an agreement uh to take that flow. I could also uh probably just maybe uh maybe not speculate but but there is also a regional wastewater treatment plant that's been kicking around for

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and

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I haven't even talked to the utilities director. I have a feeling that that connection might even just be temporary meaning if they end up building a wastewater treatment plant

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they may end up being able to go more quickly and directly to their own plant than going to ours and so that might end up being incorporated into the agreement meaning hey if we if we need have the need and we do the project we'll send it to

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with a connection at whatever point we have our own treatment plant that's close enough ‸ nearby uh

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but by the way all of that would still need to come before Council because right now it's only really just a verbal agreement and a verbal discussion that I've had with utilities director to understand whether or not we have a place that we might be able to take that flow and of course the City Council would have to approve that agreement and attorney would have to work on the terms and conditions and so on and so on but but

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rate payers of the sewer or the water system anything uh because they would have to pay their pro rata share that's all I have

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so so mr. mr chairman and we we again as you said and and as you all have advised that we we've been here before and so again just let me take you through the form and format

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can you turn me up a little bit I'll get closer to the mic is that better ‸ so so we've we've attempted to to modify ‸ a little bit and simplify the agenda report we gave you the history

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very familiar with because in ‸ August of 2016 I was the county manager as

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was considering this and ‸ so um so worked on that so we gave you the history of it we gave you um and again the tetratech study was produced so that there would be some science behind the projects uh uh ‸ in the in the uh associated with the sales tax with the infrastructure sales tax and that recommended two different approaches to improving the ‸ lagoon one was the advanced septic system replacements and one obviously is the septic to sewer. And so that's not a staff recommendation with regards to advanced septic. That is uh the consultant who recommended that as a

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was um was uh ‸ was ‸ approved or was pursued because there was gravity sewer nearby. The technology for boring was available to bore through Coquina Rock. um And early discussions with the county centered around the project being completely funded through the soro tax uh revenues. And so that's how we get ‸ to uh staff designing it as a septic to sewer. Now, in terms of the science of Coquina Rock there,

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can speak a whole lot better than I can, but you can go uh from from this spot in the room to the door. uh This spot may not contain Coquina and the spot near the door may contain Coquina. and so So, again, um that that's that's, again, you know, it all just depends on uh the topography of the land and and what's underneath the ground there. And so, ultimately, this is a decision the council must make and must address several policy matters. And I think that's why we we are still here

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And those are obviously who pays for any potential cost overrun and identify who pays, who's going to be responsible for the cost overruns, uh potential cost overruns. it Will it be the homeowners in the project area will will it be the rate payers uh for the regional utility? This is a regional utility with uh how many customers,

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water side, 8 500 on the sewer side. And so, we are primarily a water utility. Approximately 90 plus percent of our revenues are from water uh

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And so, again, it's important, uh we believe, for the council to determine who's gonna ‸ fund uh the potential cost overrun runs uh

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and how will they mandate uh connections? uh The mandates, uh are they going to mandate mandatory connection? Because, again, if you think about this, there's there's house number one and at the end of the line there's house number 88. And so, you would be putting out to bid a line that services house number one

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again um goes from a start point to an end point. But if uh houses in the middle choose not to connect, then

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is going to actually claw back those dollars. But you're still on the hook to the uh to the uh the construction company for the full cost of that program, well full ‸ cost of that project. and so And so again, that's why the mandatory hookup is important, because ultimately the mandatory hookup allows you to cover the full cost of the project, and it's a it's a fairness and an equity issue. What's the penalty for not complying with the mandatory connection requirement? Are there going to be any penalties associated with

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based on those that don't hook up. um And then how will you address non-compliance All of those have been addressed in the in the agenda report here.

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provide information on, we have uh at

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for to fund any potential cost overrun. uh That request was uh recommended against unanimously. You can say that a number of different ways, but again, they were not um considering funding the request for any additional to fund any additional cost overrun, whatever they may be. And then you

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you have the enforcement measure discussion. um And so I'll leave it at that, Mr. Mayor, and perhaps taking the cards and and answering any questions that

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listen to the constituents in the

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First on the list, uh Frank Sullivan.

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river drive i've lived there for all my life

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and from Mr. Walsh over here. Let me remind you, you've done the the sewer from the south border of

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City limits to the 859 on Indian River Drive. You had cocaine cocaine then, and

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Certainly, you've got some knowledge

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how to take care of

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today. They didn't go any further than that because there weren't any houses until you got to uh Dixon Boulevard. And Dixon Boulevard uh suddenly got sewer. Why? Because the apartment house up the up the street couldn't flush

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City figured out how to put sewer in. so anyway the money's out there you

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be mandatory everybody would have to have to hook up and that's the way it ought to be we're not trying to you know the last time i was here you ‸ worried about adding to the value of the houses

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river drive that's ridiculous

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Your city limits along the lagoon it's it's the perfect place to live. And we've got to do something to help make it a better place to live. And

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there, except for the City of

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You keep wondering about where the money is.

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and the money's out there. So I just implore you, I beg you to make the decision, the right decision, to clean up the lagoon and stop putting all these excuses up and and reasons why you you don't want to do it. I don't understand ‸ that. ‸ money's out there. Thank you.

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okay Next, Janet Smith, you get the question? Mr.

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come back to the podium, please.

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um So what what's your recommendation for those who choose not to uh commit? what What is your recommendation for what that punishment may be?

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I don't think it should be a punishment. I just don't think it should be a choice. You're going to either do it and everybody does it uh because

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by letting some people do it and some people not do it. We've all paid into the tax to do it. And if one or two people are not going to choose to hook up, that shouldn't be a choice.

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Okay, but you say that there shouldn't be a choice, but then you don't give a punishment. So I'm just i'm just trying to understand the logic. um If they're not going to commit themselves, what's going to force them? If that line is in front of their house, what is going to force them to do this? What would force you

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to hell with the city, I am not committing myself to this situation because we know there are some inside of that 88. Okay? What what do we say to those homeowners? I just, i I'm having trouble with that too. Just like what you said. Hey, look, I don't want to punish anybody. But what is going to, what is going to push them overboard to commit themselves to the project? What would you

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say to those people if they were going over the 25 mile an hour speed limit on the new river road? And they say, well, I'm going to go 40 miles an hour. That's not good for the people, everybody else that lives there. So you're going to make that person go 25 miles an hour too. Okay.

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All right.

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right. Thank you. I appreciate it. Okay.

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members and staff. ‸ This

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item of converting septic to sewer along the Indian River Drive is very important for the health of the Indian

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of the most important items you all will ever vote on because it will affect generations to come. The residents of Brevard voted and passed the tax to do just this. So that shows that people want it. They want conversion of septic to sewer along the river so

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we have been designated as having the poorest water quality and Brevard along the river. This puts a blight on

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as being far behind these other missis municipalities that have taken the advantage of this grant money. At present,

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adds

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370,129 pounds of waste material in the river every year. Now the enhanced and advanced septic, which

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to be offering as an option, still emits 35% of that poundage. Cocoa would still be

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river every year and that's just too much waste going into the river I ask each of you on council and staff ‸ will your legacy be one of blocking and voting down this measure or will you vote yes to improve the water quality along Cocoa Indian River a person in cities reputation is very important and can be defined by a single action. And this could be

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is based on action which is based on values and so what are we valuing are we valuing continuing to dump this waste into the river I hope not now I'm hoping that you vote yes to benefit the river and the residents of Cocoa and apply for

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to challenge you to an axe throwing contest. Whenever you're ready, let's do this. ‸ Good morning, Mayor, Deputy Mayor and Council. my name is Vinnie Toronto and

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back in January and have served on the committee for eight years so I wanted to come up here to avail myself to you all for any questions, to further be able to explain our discussions and our votes I was on the committee

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the initial contingency amount. And, you know, we struggled with that vote because we have an appreciation for what you all are dealing with. And the county as a whole. We don't want people to have to decide between getting septic or sewer and getting food on their table. We understand that. And

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‸ are way closer to than we will ever be. So we appreciate where you are. We understand where you are. And the reason that we unanimously said no this time to this request was it was about a 50 percent increase on what the project had originally been funded at. The way the project works, for those that don't know, and it really is brilliant is we pay per pound of nitrogen removed so that way a project up in Titusville versus a project in South County is based on the same way we don't want people saying we're pulling favoritism one way or another A pound of nitrogen is worth this amount. And unfortunately, with the economy and inflation and prices, it's just gone up tremendously. So the reason that this time we had voted unanimously no, the discussion was based around the fact that there hadn't been any outside grants acquired I know you all had looked for a legislative appropriation this past year I believe and it was vetoed

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there's a veto over hauler process but there is also the governor's 1 million dollars that they are putting forward for the lagoon and so I think that there are opportunities out there and

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that you all look at some grant funding.

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and we want this project to succeed and if there was a closer number and a closer amount and that

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it might be looked at maybe in a more positive light as Stockton said you guys have a whole bunch of policies that you're gonna have to look to to deal with this

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at mandatory connections. There are separate ways to separate mandatory connections

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so anyways I just wanted

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we do appreciate that so if there's any questions let me know

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most of the projects, it's been mandatory that the owners had to hook up. There wasn't a choice but then it didn't cost them anything to do it either so I just wondered what you had what some of the others had done as far as to what was the to force the homeowners I guess I think most of them are willing to do it, but was there, you know, what

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do you know about that? So, Deputy Mayor, that is a policy decision that the Sorrel funding we didn't get involved in.

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You didn't know what ‸ We

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looked at the project and

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for 88 connections 91 connections, and you end up less, than your pounds of nitrogen reduced from going into the lagoon would be less meaning the reimbursement amount is less but there are other municipalities I can tell you

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years even when they had only had a septic because there was a mandatory connection. And even though they weren't connected, they had to pay for it so there are there are different policies I think throughout the county most recently and other municipality I believe Palm Bay did maybe a year or two ago did re mandate connections and there were many residents that were not happy about it and I understand that but

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where available is gonna ‸ be preferential I I don't know if this is gonna ‸ happen but we now have a 2030 limit where if you have a septic tank, you will have to be upgraded to an advanced septic tank.

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And

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if you put in advance now, who's to say that in another 20 years, there's not gonna ‸ be another mandate saying that you've got to upgrade? As you can do it

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did not get involved in those policy decisions because we were strictly

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with the 2030, they either have to, if they have sewer available, they have to hook up. So the state's mandating it regardless.

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I think it's gravity fed and that's why there are some there are some areas of gray because

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like you talked about electricity, that's a much higher expense than just an advanced septic. That was

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on the advanced septic. That can roll in.

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‸ okay Thank you.

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it was just more so is I appreciate always having a phone call with you um I appreciate you always taking that call uh on places where

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I will always take your call yeah ‸ I will always take

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it was it good

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that whole week man I was

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it to make it last yeah

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that's really all all I have I think um you've been very good at agreeing to disagree uh and listening uh to whoever call you and so I just want to show your appreciation for that so the

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only way we all move forward is together and so that's I truly believe in that yep Thank

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‸ Yeah, you're welcome. Thank you all. yes

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Next, miss Linda Dolphin.

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hi everybody I am linda dolphin I've been before this group for every single time that it's been before you I'm

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as an

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drive I am part of project um I guess I am part of j or k I can't even remember because they are really ‸ totally totally they're totally two separate projects. They don't even have to be combined as one. You can vote on J or you could vote on K because there's a half a mile uh in between that already has sewer. so I don't want to you know I've written ‸ many emails to you

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but I thought what I would do now is just really thank the people that have been champions of this project and of course my good friend Lorraine Koss and

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septic to sewer project was going to come before the council. And there was no public information prior to that I guess in 2020 during

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there had been some meetings and then

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Drive I got no notification I would say it was probably

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and I wasn't here my mail probably wasn't forwarded but so I knew nothing about it so she said well why don't why I think I said let's get together some community meetings we can bring in the Brevard people and really understand it because I knew nothing about it had no predisposed inclination to do either and I will tell you right now whether I'm on septic or sewer makes zero difference to me it will not impact my lifestyle one iota but I think it's good for the river so Lorraine helped tremendously in setting up these meetings. We had two meetings for the entire community. We sent out mail because we asked the city if they wanted to attend really I will say this and I can I can show it but

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um Mr. Walsh showed up at the second meeting a ‸ little late but I never heard from either one of them um I will say the champion was lavander hearn his constituents were

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where we began to learn about what the system could provide to the community. um I think alex even attended one of the meetings so my real champions of this are pat weeks who continues to

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tremendous asset to this community. To Lavander Hearn for always voting for this.

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they are our true champions and

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thank you very much. My only recommendation for tonight is that you go ahead and actually send this project out to bid. Apply for grants. Every other project that you've done that has come in over budget, guess what? You just don't fund it I know you're concerned about cost overruns but why is that a consideration for tonight when it's never come up on any of your other projects? Let's figure out how to fund a cost overrun that we don't even know we may have before we vote on a project. You don't understand that you haven't done it before

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another way to postpone or not go ahead with subject to sewer thank you very much

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good evening Lawrence costs I'm a coco resident I'm going to bring up some things that nobody else is talking about. and One of the things that concerns me is that when we clean our bathrooms and we clean our sinks,

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To the lagoon. You know,

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that goes into the lagoon I had

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chemotherapy makes a person sterile, what is it going to do to the fish, the manatees? Think about that. the nutrient is important that's what the 7.2 is for but think about the additional things that are going in there

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If you put a main line on any River Drive, then you have 400 houses that can hook up later. So this is an opportunity for the city to to get this in place. So now you have 488 homes that are no longer getting chemicals and pharmaceuticals into the lagoon. The other thing is,

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The lagoon is an economic engine. And if if I hear it's like seven times. So

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back, people would be flooding

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to buy these guaranteed seven times. And the other, and the last thing I'll say, for those of you who believe in God, and you call yourself a Christian, you know in the Bible, it says we need to be good stewards of our earth. So, for those reasons, you should vote yes, because it's the right thing to do. Thank you. Any questions? Thank

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giving this important issue so much consideration. And I'm glad to see that from all the speakers thus far, it seems to be that we're pretty unanimous in agreeing that the lagoon is very important to all of us. So it's now just a matter of trying to figure out how to collectively put our heads together and try to solve this. And one thing that I was wondering about was the uh the latest bid I saw on the summary that you put together,

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Why don't we get another bid? Why don't we get this updated and go back to, you know,

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and ask the question, you know,

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you know, but, you know, assuming even if it's not, have that information say, would there be an opportunity to increase that? And it sounds like from what the gentleman said earlier, it's all based on how many houses. So maybe put ‸ out the query on that. How many folks? I mean, it's 88 homes from what I understand.

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just from the initial blush? ‸ if that number is high, then I think the city will have a good confidence level that this is going to be a workable solution. And to Mr. Claus's point, at that point, then you hook it into the uh to the remaining homes. i I don't live on the river. I wouldn't be affected. But if you gave me the opportunity to go to Septic, as everybody else said, to save our lagoon, I would take that. So I think maybe that's something that we should just try to keep this momentum going and try to get this issue resolved. Don't walk away from it. It's too important to all of us, to our grandchildren, and, you know, to us who are wanting to save this lagoon, because it can come back. It's starting to, and it can do it. uh

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Do you have any previous experience why we can't just say, let's make it mandatory?

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Thank you. Yes, I've looked at that issue, and uh

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mean, in my opinion, there's a there's a way to do that. Okay. that's That's good news. That's all I had.

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Thank you very much. Thank

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you very much, sir. Okay. Any other cards in the audience? ‸ Come to the podium, please,

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I've lived there 45 years now. um I heard that there was some concern about how you would force people to go on to the septic system. ‸ And if you don't choose to go uh septic to sewer, then the alternative would be um advanced septic. And my question is, how are you going to force people to go to advanced septic? I certainly am not going to go to advanced septic because it's a waste of time and money. ‸ My money. So

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what you should put on the other people.

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thank you

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Okay. Do we have any other additional cards? I know you

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this portion to the public and return it to Council. All right, sir. Yep. Okay. um Can I hear from the city manager? You want to go first? Yeah,

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i was going to finish up uh our presentation and Mr. Mayor, and I and i get it, you know, it's these things always seem to be personal laws to staff. And so I promise uh staff that I would always uh defend their professional reputations and professional character. uh And certainly, you know, the comment that Mr. Walsh has said negative things is absolutely not uh correct. And so Jack has presented the policy questions for this council to consider. We've repeated those policy questions there.

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are benefiting from um from um any system improvements have to pay for those improvements. And so Jack has simply uh reinforced or presented to you the policy position uh via ordinance of this council. And it and it says that uh you must pay for the benefit that is uh that is specific to you. ‸ that's uh ordinance uh 26-84. um

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as, again, an example of that's all Jack has done. Jack has never said to me that he is not in favor of this. He is, uh he will, he will march to the orders of, of the council. And so generically, there's an ordinance that says that uh um the beneficiaries, beneficiaries of, uh of uh improvements pay for those improvements there. And so more specifically, in, um in uh 2000, there's a subdivision that actually uh had sewer installed and actually was required to pay a connection fee.

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2000-06. And, and if you read the body of that, it says a resolution of the city council declaring that the city council has completed a certain infrastructure expansion to its sanitary sewer system to provide sewer service to several properties located along along North and South Indian Circle in the Indian Hill subdivision. And mr mr mr Mr. Beach can show you where that subdivision is.

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This is this is a 2000 resolution. Give that to Jack. And so, in in 2000, you'll note from the resolution that uh ‸ sewer was run for this subdivision. And in this resolution, the residents, the homeowners were charged

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connection fee.

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um policy positions, you have policy requirements, you have uh um via ordinance, you have a requirement, again, for those those who are benefiting from the improvement to pay for the improvement. That bears out in the in the 84 generic ordinance, but but most particularly in the resolution associated with this particular project. And it's there in black and white. And again, time and time, we've just simply reiterated those uh those policy matters to the council. ‸ again, in this agenda report, um

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presentation to the

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committee, I didn't ask for a specific number, uh a dollar amount. I just simply forwarded to them your request to fund any cost overruns. And so, and

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of county commissioners

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was approved by the council. And you can see that

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And so I've been there day one, uh with regards to this particular initiative. uh you can see that there is no space in between myself as the then county manager and Virginia Barker as the department director.

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And so staff is neutral in regards to all of this and waiting for the direction of the council. Again,

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policy questions that have to be answered. And so let me talk about the Broadmoor Acres project. And as you know, that the Broadmoor Acres project was initially bid out and the bid came back over what was allocated from um from FEMA and from the city. That we in turn went back to FEMA, asked them for additional dollars to actually re-bid that. FEMA granted those additional dollars. We re-bid it and it came in under the budgeted amount.

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they don't put out bids without having some reasonable expectation that those projects can and will be funded. This project has never been bid. I think the

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gentleman

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said that we previously had a bid uh price. We've not had a bid on this because we've never sent it to bid. That was an engineer's uh um estimate of magnitude there. And so, and so again, we had the engineer upon the, uh upon the 90 design guess that what that, uh that, um the project would come in at. But we've never bid this. And again, we stand ready for any questions.

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address prior to, um putting this out to bid or in, concurrent with making a decision on how you go forward with this project.

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Okay. um

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how many homes are there that were directly

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impacted

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that paid for ‸ the upgrade of the, um

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How many homes roughly?

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the ordinance that you

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shortfall,

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who pays for

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say a senior citizen, say

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because we provide them with water, or even a senior citizen in Diamond Square, or even ourselves, will be paying too ‸ this happens to take place.

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it's it's a It's a regional utility. And so as Mr. Walsh said, you have about approximately 70 000 water customers. and But you all haven't answered that question. That's the first policy question that we've asked. Who would pay for any cost overruns? Would it be the 88 homeowners, or would it be spread throughout the system? Again, by way of example,

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So, so so again, but that's the first policy question that we've posed to to the city council, who pays for the cost to overrun overruns, the potential cost overruns. But again, it it is a regional water utility. And so if it's if it's not directly paid for by the 88 homeowners, it's spread throughout the regional uh water utility and the ratepayers within that regional water utility.

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So someone else will be absorbing this cost, and it does not directly impact them, in other words, since it's on a regional system. um I have a question to the audience. How many individuals in this room right now reside at, uh on any river drive, that live on J and K? uh ‸ One, two, up one per household. Let me say it that way. Okay, one, two, three, three. Out of 88 people, only three? ‸ just ask

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Can somebody give me the percentage of that? So if I divide 88 into three, it's going to be point

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something something

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something, right? Correct. yeah

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have, out of the 88, how many, i I've talked to several of the 88 that reside there, ma'am, and serves and they were saying they already paid for the advanced septic system. They do not want to convert over because it then it's a double whammy, and that's a policy we would have to look at too as well. More than one. More than one. And that's my my my concern. I'm talking to my city manager, ma'am, right

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now. oh

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talking to my ‸ history

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‸ I'm

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sorry,

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Have a seat, please. I'll give you the opportunity to speak, sir. Have a seat. I

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will

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give you the opportunity to speak. Just have a seat, sir. Thank you. So I'm just saying, look at the facts. That's all I'm saying. I had a question for something you said. Okay, go ahead. so

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want to be clear

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um can you

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give me the questions again? Yes,

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sir. um

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maybe in the household. I even say five um that reside at

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So if I divide 88 into five, what would be the percentage of that right now? You

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mean three of

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88 is what percentage? Yes.

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I know it's going to be point

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something something. said a little louder, please.

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then i

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the advanced septic system. And they do not want to convert over. So that's a dilemma on a policy we must deal with within itself.

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why don't you do a special assessment?

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You can charge it. You can absorb it.

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Those that will be directly impacted.

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That's

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all. Can I say something ‸ what you just said? Certainly, ma'am. Okay. in brief I'm coming. ‸ Yeah. ‸ And this is not that.

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swept when they did that from

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went

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They wound up having to buy a new septic system. But then once the sewer went in, they had

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up to the sewer, even though the new septic system was only six months old. It happens. And

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that's what they said

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yep That's the gamble we take when we invest in the home. ‸ Yes. Yes, we do. A lot of those homes right there on the Indian River Drive. How old are they?

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20s 30s.

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Possibly even more than that,

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ma'am,

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because I, as a kid, riding up or down Indian River Drive on the school bus from St. Mary's.

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would see it daily.

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I would like to do, I would like to make a motion to move forward with the sewage project. um And these are terms and conditions I'm asking for. uh So go for for a bid. Mandate all 88 homes to hook up. Utilize all available grant monies. any overages to be paid for by the homeowners of the 88 properties through a combination of a one-time hookup fee and maybe a special assessment that could pay that debt down over time. Use all state and local remedies as stated in our paperwork that we can utilize to enforce those

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see if I can get any support by the council on that second

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conversation.

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uh mandate all 88 homes to hook up. Utilize all available grant monies for the project. Any overages to be paid for by the homeowners of the 88 properties, uh through a combination of a one-time hookup fee and a special assessment to pay the debt down over time. um also use state and local remedies as stated in the information we receive for enforcement of any

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the motion. So we don't know what that overage could possibly be. ‸ And so what would you consider, um because we don't know everyone's financial situation, right? Just because people live on the river

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ready to spend, right? And so would you consider giving them time to pay whatever that may be?

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just, in my mind, I'm thinking you might need to put a a number to it. Just in my opinion, anyway.

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I would rather let staff, uh you know, put the numbers together and come up with a an appropriate time frame, uh maybe for that one time connection fee. But as far as the

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um i I don't, I can't calculate that math, but I'm sure it can be done. But I think paying it off over time would be less burden, less of a burden on those homeowners.

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Do special assessments go on the tax bill?

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They can go on the tax bill. As you know, the city has several special assessments, right? Stone water fire, they go on the

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In the staff report, we talked about, you know, how

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you know, not only is there ‸ mandatory connection, but if there's if there's going to be a charge, how do you,

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mandate payment? And the best tool to mandate payment is through um a special assessment. So as Councilman Hearn has indicated, I mean, there would need to be a financial workup based on, um you know, the bids and and available grant funds, right, to determine what that assessment would be. But the best enforcement mechanism to collect those assessments is through the use of

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And that would

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be a whole series of actions in a local agreement with the tax collector to collect the non-advalent assessment, all the things we've done

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this, this, this direction, if this was the direction of the council, again, find a lot of financial analysis, a lot of legal instruments would have to be, you know, created, we'd have to come back. You know, this, you know, what was done back in 2000

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charge that was recorded against the land to guarantee payment. So all those things would be put in place at a later time.

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okay

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that's it okay

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and then

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put forward. Obviously, I've seconded it. so um And hopefully it won't come to that because since nobody else has had to pay the a charge, I mean, the hookup fee that we will have enough grants to do it all. But thank you.

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staff to give that time

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to give that time, I think that's fair. um Again, because I i do understand everybody's situation is different. um to to

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a number. but um

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we whatever that number comes for that over, we won't know that until at the end of the project anyway. So that's another problem.

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stated. But as far as the policy side, uh that would have to come back to the council once more, correct? And

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be more polished um for the public, correct?

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I mean, there's a lot. that would have to come back there

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I understand it'll be a process. But um I'm really i'm really trying to get past the the whole notion of just because something is tough and hard and we can't do it. I know we got

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‸ know we we got well capable staff. um we We got a lot of good staff here. And my hope is we can make it happen. So

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‸ okay we have a motion on the floor. um Chair's gonna ‸ call the court in favor to say

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Any nays? Let the record reflect nay for me. That I am not in favor of this. And the reason why,

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reside there. Who will speak out against paying an increase. And it it affects the regional water systems, and

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do not live there. And that is the reason why. ‸ It's not a but. I'm just saying what I feel.

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But but that's

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asked to say something is I don't believe that's a true statement, because inside of his motion, he already stated that it's going to be towards those 88 homes. But those are the individuals that would be affected with the project. he Now, I

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but I just.

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Right.

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How do you help them recruit their loss? And because there will be stipulations on that.

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Yeah, that's true.

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I know it's true because it's already been documented, but ‸ let's move forward. I'm that individual out there on that 10 pound branch and I will fight for those that are unheard and not have the opportunity to speak. And for those that are already invested in their system and now they may have to be forced to join again, depending on the scenario and what's the guidelines for each grant.

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there, it's it. So it's a in terms of the question of who pays for the cost overrun, the cost overrun will be borne by the

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mandatory connection for

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the penalties are basically enforced through a special assessment. uh And we've not talked about how that special assessment occurs there. I'm going to tell you, I'm going to suggest that that is on the tax bill. We've not suggested the term uh for that special assessment. um And also there's a connection fee component of it. um And again, a lot of a lot of work to bring back to the council. but I think those are the the nuts and bolts of the action. And I'll stand corrected by anybody who heard differently on that.

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motion mandatory connections

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portion of council. We will proceed forward to reports. Do we have any reports? Is Lorraine

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‸ She's in the back.

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Who would like to go first? oh you did i

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um so saturday i attended the um family promise of brevard event uh which is again like most people already know The old fire station one. um

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uh Great event. uh They raised a lot of

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um And so, a beautiful thing to support uh not just families inside of

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but families uh throughout Brevard. um I have

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um But but it's just... yeah I can't afford an iPhone. uh yeah so these are some some of the photos um again a horrible picture again um it's black

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night um great event uh it was a fundraiser for

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a food truck rally

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great job by all ‸ the residents uh

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He's now a artist. He does Christian rap now in Atlanta, Georgia. um His name is

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now. I don't even know. where he was

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but but great great to see him. uh Again, good to see young people you know doing things positive in the community. um that That's that's really really all I had. I appreciate a lot of the um conversation uh throughout the last two weeks, with good

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may not agree on certain things doesn't mean that um it should be uh disrespectful or or nasty towards one another. I think we just need to dialogue and um and hopefully we can get to where we you know the citizens choose we need to be.

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um Advocacy is a part of what we do. um But sometimes

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car when they send 37 000 emails. um But but again, i I appreciate um the dialogue. um And i just I have one thing. I sent it to a city manager earlier as well. uh This this Chief Collier, um we got an RV that's parked at the five acre parcel, right? um And they've been there for a while, right? uh It's not a RV park. And one of the best questions I had today is, where are they dumping their waste if the RV is not being moved? And so that's a concern of mine. And I think I really want that RV to be gone as quick as possible. uh Because they've been sitting out in lawn chairs. they just

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it. Thank you, sir.

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because I just got back from a conference in Orlando. um But I did want to ask, I brought it up before, all the trucks around

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they're on the on off ramps all over around 524 and 95. i know technically 524 is not a city road but I mean, those semis are everywhere. Is there anything at all that we can do? I've got constituents

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And I said, well, it's not really our roads, but is there anything that we can do?

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semis, especially at night.

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i can afford that concern again

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Yeah. so So I'll do that.

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I mean,

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So I don't understand. So I just wanted to bring that up. And um that's about all I have this time.

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okay who's next

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uh Well, let me just start um by based on our last agenda item. um I have um something interesting. um

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Salzman. He's the

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chair. And they are, they have a panel that is reviewing the 160 appropriations request from last year, of which

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22 made the cut and are being considered for veto overrides. um Quote,

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from septic systems to central sewer service. Now,

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I looked all

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over. I don't know how to find the status of the appropriations, but we should be following ‸ unless you know something. ‸ Yeah,

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I'm i'm following that that. That is, that's a fight for senior between the legislature and the governor. ‸ so, I was, I was aware of that. I was made aware of that by our state lobbyists. And so, um I've not gotten a call from the state budget office. And so, I think we stay out of it and, and let them fight their fight up

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that cropped up when there was a, when there was a, some tension between the legislature and the governor. And so let's see how far they get with it.

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Okay. Well, out of 160, we need to cut for 22. So that is at least a good sign. um So the other thing that through this whole process and thinking about this today and learning about the work that the county is doing with our utility department where they're using the sorrel funds and the grant funds to lay lines and then we'll, you know, hook up. I also was have been working with the um the county planners about Clear

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We're planning a Clear

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community meeting on March 25th. And one of the questions I was asked

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and

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And as when you look at this map,

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that are so essential to being able to um really turn around the image and and enrich this area that is is going to be, as I like to call

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So when I was reading through the comp plan, it appeared that you do not, um you don't

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necessarily get annexed in if you get

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sewerage

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Somebody give me a definitive on that. The comp plan ‸ talked about agreements. um It didn't talk about that you have to be part incorporated in order to get sewage yeah

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My understanding, Councilwoman

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‸ is if a development outside the city limits is seeking sewer from this from the city, then they need to sign an annexation agreement ‸ that would come into effect only when they become contiguous with the uh the remainder of the city or the existing city boundary.

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And then based on that signed agreement, once they become contiguous, they are automatically brought into the city.

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Okay. So maybe anthony can fill in puzzle pieces that we see would have to be annexed in order to get

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right? I'm

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sorry?

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then So what you're saying is those jigsaw puzzle pieces that are unincorporated, they are contiguous, would have to be annexed in order to get sewage No,

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what I'm saying is is that is that if an enclave that's outside the city boundary by itself it wants sewer and we agree to do that, right? We take it in and we sign that they sign the agreement to say ‸ we'll annex in when we become contiguous. The parcels in between the existing right boundary and where they are yes have to be filled in. And

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I understand that.

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Well, actually, it's two that could be affected on Clear Lake Road. Do those have to be? They don't

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have an annexation agreement. and

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No, but if they were, the only way they could get

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would be to get an annexation agreement, right?

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I don't

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county provides.

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‸ That's what the county is looking at, how they can get them

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right to develop that area. Okay. But we have a sewer line down Clear Lake Road.

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We have a forced main down

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you had asked if I would do a report on that. um I was thinking the big takeaway this last week for me on the transportation planning organization, and the MPO, our Space Coast Transportation planning organization, was we had some new members. Both of these organizations, I really am enthusiastic about being involved because these are planning organizations, collaborative planning organizations. That's why they exist because we recognize that traffic does not stop and end at our boundaries. That what we do impacts those outside of our boundaries and what they do impacts us. So there are a series of these type of planning organizations and that is their purpose to, in this case, we got together with ‸ different municipalities from central Florida talking about transportation. transportation at the Space Coast TPO, we had several new members and

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they didn't seem to understand the collaboration part of that.

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‸ Well, we had a couple of...

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I'm not going to say any names specifically, but the conversation that was taking place was more of, um

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you know, thinking demanding funds versus understanding that this is a body that's collaborating for the purpose of transportation, the whole area, rather than

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um But just the point is that these are collaborative bodies and on transportation, in particular in some of these bigger infrastructure issues, it's really important to have this kind of coordination. And I just wanted to give a big shout out to Tanya and Tony. for the unity in the community they've been doing this the entire time i've been here there's some great gospel music there are a whole number of services that actually i was unfamiliar with that are in the area so um and you

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is coming along. uh got a lot of great feedback from people. So it's still a little work to go to it's finish i'm honoring that, also attended the unity and community event.

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a lot of great feedback for the improvements, uh at provost park. they were even out there playing uh ‸ pickleball, uh while the event was going on, so that park is starting to see a lot of positive activity out there. uh I'm looking forward to it, uh continuing to grow over the years. So great investment that the city council and, uh has made on that part. So that's all I have. that's it sir.

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‸ Thank you. I also attended unity in the community and Tanya and her husband have been promoting this event for well over a decade, including her sister, Deborah. um the other thing we had quite a number of vendors ‸ there ranging from various organizations pertaining to single parents,

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advanced education, adult education, to, um the, Masonic Brothers and Eastern Stars, providing free food for the individuals there. Also,

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they were actively involved with a host of other vendors, both on the county level and local level. So, I think we will continue to make that event be a success. You all are correct. Had a great time. And got the youth involved. That's the most important thing, because they are today's success,

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I had the opportunity to bring the morning speech about the three men.

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up and down the Indian River. He's buried at Hillcrest Cemetery Hill. um Also, Balaam Allen, one of the co-founders of the Allen AME Church located in Melbourne. um And also, Mr. Wright Brothers. These three men found the city of Melbourne, Crane Creek. And I had the opportunity to present them with that information. um um

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So, the theme, as you can see, celebrated the legacy of a

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forgotten

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past. And they were the first individuals there. Peter Wright sold some of his property to the Good family, who

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of years ago, for the city of Melbourne. So, there was a plethora of information that was being shared there. um

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um You can see um

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event. um Several of Melbourne's council members attended. Well attended. ‸ Was not an empty seat in the house. And um I look forward ‸ that information

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But to, if I may, um Peter Wright. is like I say buried there at Hillcrest Cemetery Hill.

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um um mr uh

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Wright and also um Wright Brothers. That's him. Came from Lodge 55. People think that they're the same, but it's two different people. And uh

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along with

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host of other individuals, who are members of Lodge 55. I also want to say thank you very much uh to

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High School uh this graduating year, the valedictorian Valedictorian and also Summa Cum Laude. First time ever. for All girls.

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all

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girls

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girls and they're uh

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And I'm very, very ecstatic about that. That's wonderful. That goes to show you um that we too, everyone deserves a seat at the table. So in conclusion, I would like to say buy local, spend local. local

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people keep

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it local. Please keep your eyes and ears toward Tallahassee. Because a senator just passed a new, he's making a new bill pertaining to the homeless. So get ready, get ready, get ready. Yes, we're gonna ‸ call his name a lot more than now.

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Go in peace.

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