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Code Enforcement

Code Enforcement Regular Meeting

Date
2022-10-20
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #374
Built from the City's minutes records — no AI-written text Briefing final

The City's record

What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (375_CE_Reg_Minutes_10_20_2022.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Lloyd Roberts, George Brown, Verna Hughes, Sharri Scott
  • Arrived after the roll: Michael Simpson (the minutes note: “arrived at 6:06”)
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines; no independent membership list of this board is available to confirm that the roll is complete.)
  • Listed absent: Edward Green, David Lightholder
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Dennis Bunt (Code Enforcement Manager), Augusto Gonzalez-Ruiz (Code Enforcement Officer), Vince Buonocore (Code Enforcement Officer), Michael Folger (Code Enforcement Officer), Debra Babb-Nutcher (Board Attorney), Darla Crowl (Recording Secretary)
  • Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Brown (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (11)

  • to approve to the agenda of October 20, 2022 (moved by Brown, seconded by Hughes); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 1
  • to approve to the minutes of September 15, 2022 (moved by Hughes, seconded by Brown); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 2
  • to approve Staff's recommendation and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Brown, seconded by Scott); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 2
  • to amend Staff's recommendation and give the property owner (90 days) January 19, 2023 with (30 day) updates to the Code Enforcement Board and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Brown, seconded by Scott); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 3
  • to approve Staff's recommendation and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Brown, seconded by Simpson); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 3
  • to amend Staffs recommendation and reduce the fine to seventy-five dollars ($75.00) for the 21 days and find the Property Owner in compliance (moved by Brown, seconded by Scott); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 4
  • to approve Staff's recommendation and a fine of five hundred dollars ($500.00) per day and find the Property Owner in repeat violation (moved by Scott, seconded by Hughes); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 5
  • to approve Staffs recommendation and find the Owner in Non-Compliance (moved by Brown, seconded by Hughes); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 5
  • to approve Staffs recommendation to move forward with the foreclosure (moved by Scott, seconded by Mr. Brown); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 6
  • to amend staffs recommendation to City Council and the lien reduction be in the amount of zero dollars ($0) (moved by Scott, seconded by Hughes); CARRIED 3-1 (result not printed; worked out from the count); ayes: not named in the minutes; nays: Brown — the City's minutes, p. 7 Corrected to match the minutes, page 7.
  • to approve staffs recommendation to City Council the lien reduction be in the amount of three thousand seventy-two dollars and eighty-eight cents ($3,072.88) (moved by Brown, seconded by Scott); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 8

Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)

  • $75.00 — Code Enforcement: decided in an adopted motion. “amend Staffs recommendation and reduce the fine to seventy-five dollars ($75.00) for the 21 days and find the Property Owner in compliance” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (375_CE_Reg_Minutes_10_20_2022.pdf, p. 4); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $500.00 — Code Enforcement: decided in an adopted motion. “approve Staff's recommendation and a fine of five hundred dollars ($500.00) per day and find the Property Owner in repeat violation” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (375_CE_Reg_Minutes_10_20_2022.pdf, p. 5); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $3,072.88 — Code Enforcement: recommended to another body (City Council decides; not a final approval). “approve staffs recommendation to City Council the lien reduction be in the amount of three thousand seventy-two dollars and eighty-eight cents ($3,072.88)” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (375_CE_Reg_Minutes_10_20_2022.pdf, p. 8); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $0 — Code Enforcement: named in a motion for which no result was read. “amend staffs recommendation to City Council and the lien reduction be in the amount of zero dollars ($0)” (motion result: none read; the City's minutes (375_CE_Reg_Minutes_10_20_2022.pdf, p. 7); fiscal period not recorded)

Agenda (the City's wording)

The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (CE_Reg_Agenda_10_20_2022), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.

Transcript Partial transcript

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All the babies keep coming up in
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random spots.
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She was more
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happy than anything else.
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clock because it's very visible. Oh,
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I'm going by the computer.
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All right.
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meeting to order. So, the Pledge of Allegiance.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
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and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with
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liberty and justice
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for all. And at this time, we'll have roll call.
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Mr. Roberts.
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Here.
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Mr. Green. Mr.
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Brown.
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Present.
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Mr. Lightholder. Ms. Scott.
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Here.
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Mr. Simpson.
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Present.
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All right. Now we'll have our swearing in of the officers.
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We're going to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing about the truth, so help you God. Yes, ma'am.
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All right. Now I'm going to approve the meeting for tonight, but we have some amendments here. All right. All
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right. If
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we can note, case number one has complied. Case number three has complied. Case number four is tabled. Case number seven has complied. Case number eight has complied.
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I make a motion that we approve the agenda, please.
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Any nays? And it passes. Okay, and approval for the meeting minutes for September 15th.
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I make a motion to approve the minutes.
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Second, please. I have a motion on the floor with
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second. ‸ All in favor say aye. Aye. Those opposed, motion passes. All right, we have some middle of doc packet of documents.
[00:03:10] Speaker 4
Yes, Mr. Chair, I'd like to submit the presentation for tonight and the packet of documents that accompany it into the record.
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So noted. All right, and with that, we'll start off case number two.
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For
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I'm submitting a packet of documents and photos associated with this case. The photos accurately depict the property during my visits and show my findings of storing junker autos section 6-902 B1 and 2, storing outdoors section 6-900 B11. I visited the site 6 times.
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first inspection, I found the property in violation of the above mentioned sections of the city code.
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violation.
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and have made attempts to contact the property owner yielding a negative results.
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as I have been working ‸ this case for 136 days ‸ and the violations have not been fully resolved. I sent the
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and posted on the property in violation. Staff finds in case 22-0260 that the
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compliance or a fine of $50 ‸ be imposed for each state of violations remain until compliance is achieved. ‸ The property owner is not present.
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Mr. Chair,
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I may, as you can see in the photographs, this vehicle has an expired tag and the wheels
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are
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actually sunk into the dirt. It does not move. And then we have pictures showing cups and trash and old furniture and items thrown around the property. They're in every picture that we're showing now, showing the violations. We have buckets and lawn equipment that's dismantled and old barbecue grills and paper cups, gas cans. And you can see where the owner of the property has been trying to cover the license plate so that we can't see the expired tag.
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Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion on this case, please.
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And they will be, should be corrected by 30 days.
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‸ I'll second.
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Motion on the floor with the second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Passing unanimously. Our next case, item number 5, CE-22-0329.
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Property address is 1056 Mitchell Street.
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The photos accurately depict the property during my visits to show my findings of exterior general condition. Section 6-1003-A. Roofs and drainage. Section 6-1003-G. And weeds. Section 6-1001-D. I visited the site six times. During my first inspection, I found the property in violation of the above mentioned sections of city ‸ code. I've attempted to gain voluntary compliance in this case, but as of my last
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violation.
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And it made attempts to contact the property owner, but no progress has been made.
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I have been working this case for 111 days. The violations have not been fully resolved. I sent the notice of hearing on September 23rd, 2022. It was sent certified and posted on the property in violation. Staff finds in
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I recommend 30 days be given to come into compliance
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the violations remain
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until
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compliance is achieved. The weed violation has been evaded as of this morning, which is the reasoning
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And
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with the missing tiles, the bows, the sags, also the front fascia and the patches that are in the corner by the door and over that stained piece of fascia that's up there. That's what constitute the exterior structure and ‸ the roof and drainage violation. You can see that throughout the property. And this, the roof needs attention. And that piece of fascia and area
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in
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the house.
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On another note for the record show Mr. Simpson arrive at 606, please. Now, as far as this,
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Uh, and of course, it's tough to just patch or fix one section of the roof. Would that need more attention than just ‸ a, a, shall I say a band-aid fix?
[00:09:12] Speaker 4
Oh yeah, the roof needs immediate attention. You can see the bows and the sheathing underneath. In the pictures, you can see the numerous tiles that are missing. Areas that have been attempted to be patched.
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over shingle.
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So that needs to be considered as far as timing.
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And I believe the property owners are present.
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a patch or is that a hole? What is that?
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It's a patch of some kind.
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It's a patch of some sort.
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Um,
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property owners are here. Would you like to give us some kind of background on this?
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Step
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up.
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Yeah, I'm not sure.
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Well, you have to step up and be sworn in, please.
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Yes. Please state your name and address for the record into the microphone.
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Okay.
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Um, it's [address], Merritt Island, Florida.
[00:10:22] Speaker 2
Okay. Um, what can you tell us about this, ma'am?
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Now that patch up there, uh, we, we never patched that. We've owned the property for seven years. So that was probably from previous, but we have no leaks at all in the house. Uh, we did lose tiles after iron though. That's 100% for sure. Um, we are looking for somebody right now to paint the, what do you call that?
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way around. And it also needs drainage.
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is this a rental property?
[00:11:05] Speaker 10
It is a rental property. Yes. It's been rented to the same tenants for five years.
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Okay.
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Um, July, he actually, um, he was kind of scammed. So he actually couldn't pay rent and, or do his lawn and pay his lawn guy. So we had to go out there a couple of times to get that done.
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Now, have you spoken to, um, our code enforcement officers to see what you can do to get this taken care of?
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because
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we've always taken care of the property.
[00:11:37] Speaker 2
Okay.
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So we're always on top of it and we have great tenants. And so we don't,
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we
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have a problem ever taking care of them.
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If
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the tenants need anything, we're always there.
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Well, what I'm saying is because the tenants in what we're talking about
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You're talking about
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the property?
[00:11:53] Speaker 2
Yes, ma'am. Talking about the property and you, because ultimately you're responsible for the property. Right. So you would be the person that needs to ensure you get in touch with code enforcement to ensure you clear these violations
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that we're going to be worried about. Okay.
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Yes, we have. Yeah. And yeah, there, there's been a little delay with the, um, address, our address.
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The last time we lived, there was five years ago. So we never actually got notices until I think it was September 23rd.
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a notice on our door. So I called him the same day, started working with him, talking with him on the phone about, you know, the situation. He emailed us on Monday is when we finally got ahold of him on, uh, two days later on a Monday.
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And,
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So we're like, well, there's work that needs to be done. Yeah, we can, there's ‸ small repair basically.
[00:13:05] Speaker 4
Mr. Chairman.
[00:13:06] Speaker 2
Yes, sir.
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For the record, officer Gonzalez, where did you get the address? The
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address
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that you sent all the email, I mean, notice of violations to the property appraiser. That's,
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I
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just wanted that in the record that if it went to a different address, it's because the property appraiser had that as the address. ‸ And
[00:13:22] Speaker 10
also we paid the taxes on there in August. And my husband said, I'm not getting notices, you know, to where I'm supposed to be paying these taxes. And they said, your address is on here.
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[00:13:35] Speaker 9
The tax collectors. The
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tax collectors.
[00:13:38] Speaker 9 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
So, you know, according to the Mitchell, you know, property. Okay. So
[00:13:42] Speaker 10 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
it's a big confusion there. Yeah. We never really got, we ‸ never got notified.
[00:13:46] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
Well, this, ‸ well, this here is not a confusion.
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Okay.
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And this is really long time, but.
[00:13:57] Speaker 2
Okay. But you said that's enough time for you to be able to get that done.
[00:14:01] Speaker 10 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Yeah. We ‸ have time to get stuff done. Yes. Okay. So long has been done already so far. I mean, we're on top of that. It's just basically we did come to the hearing and get more information. What needs to get done?
[00:14:16] Speaker 2
Well, you didn't. The thing about it to be able to be proactive opposed to reactive. So if you would have gotten with them and taken care of this, you probably wouldn't even be here today.
[00:14:27] Speaker 10
I actually, we, we did talk to him. So, I mean, I did contact him.
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Okay.
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We, we don't know what, what our process is. Have you talked
[00:14:38] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
to somebody about this roof, a contractor?
[00:14:42] Speaker 10
‸ Yes, we did.
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You have somebody lined up? We
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do. I actually have stuff in line for that. Yes, I do.
[00:14:49] Speaker 6
Because it can take forever to get a roofer out there to do the work.
[00:14:53] Speaker 10
Well, it's not like the whole roof. It doesn't leak except tiles came off in certain
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[00:15:00] Speaker 10
Let's just say in one section. And then now if you're noticing that white spot in the front roof is just ugly. It doesn't even leak. It just needs ‸ some tile put up there and the paint. So we noticed that that board was probably changed out.
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[00:15:21] Speaker 10
June?
[00:15:23] Speaker 4
For the record,
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I
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would suggest that.
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And that
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was because that plant, see the plant that's in the front? Had ripped that part off of the roof for wind and all that.
[00:15:31] Speaker 4
I would suggest that they speak with the building department because that is not a repair. That is
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[00:15:37] Speaker 4
A 10 by 10 patch and they will need a permit. And also for the record, I spoke with Mrs.
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Vocek
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on the property with officer Murdoch and building inspector Steve Angeline regarding her roof back in 2017. And we discussed that it was eventually going to have to be replaced at that time.
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it with us. Yes, I did. Among themselves maybe, but not with us.
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No, no, I discussed
[00:15:59] Speaker 4
it in the house with you and Steve Angeline, the building inspector. He looked at the back where you put up some
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peel and
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stick and we discussed it right at that property.
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Oh, in the back there. Yes. It's a flat roof up there.
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So
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that has nothing to do with this front. Right.
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That
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was
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‸ for the different thing, but the roof was in bad condition then and
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So we
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didn't do that.
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‸ Okay. They need to speak with the building department because that's not going to be a patch. They're going to need a permit to work on that roof. And I want, I just want to make that. The patch I was talking
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about is in the front right there.
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Okay.
[00:16:31] Speaker 10
Otherwise we have no leaks, but if there was a leak, we would have to get that done anyway.
[00:16:40] Speaker 2
So you spoke to her in 2017.
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Yes, sir.
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was still ‸ here,
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and officer Murdoch, and they did, they did make corrections, but this roof has been in bad shape going downhill since then. And I want to point it out because you have bows in that roof with the sheathing.
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So
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I just want,
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I just want them to speak to the building department and do it properly. I don't want them to think it's going to be a patch.
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we're asking for 30 days. I want to make sure if they say they can do it in 30 days that they understand they may have to go to the building department and speak with them. Okay.
[00:17:20] Speaker 2
Well, again, what it sounds like he's trying, he's trying to, in a sense, throw your lifeline and which I'm saying, he's trying to get you to do it in a manner that would save you time and money. Because if you get it taken care of now, or opposed to throwing a band-aid fix on it,
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[00:17:41] Speaker 10
That's what he thinks. You're right. So it's
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going
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to bleed. It doesn't bleed is what I'm saying.
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Okay. Well. Now, it might look
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bad. Don't get me wrong. I mean, it does need it. It would be wonderful to put a new roof on, of course, but it just doesn't look, you know, it looks like everybody else is in the neighborhood. Let's just put it that way.
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Okay. But it
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doesn't leak.
[00:18:00] Speaker 2
I tell you what, we'll go on. Would 30 days be enough for you?
[00:18:05] Speaker 10 + overlapping voice
No, because actually, because what is he thinking about?
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or speaking to the council or talking to somebody else about getting some parts done?
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I don't understand. What's 30 days?
[00:18:18] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice
I'm talking about as a rental unit, that roof is not up to code.
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‸ Those shingles are no good any longer.
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So it's probably going to need a new roof and you're going to need
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a
[00:18:34] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
building permit. Well, because I'm asking you to go to the building department. If you're asking my opinion, I'm telling you, you need a new roof.
[00:18:42] Speaker 10 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Again, if I go to the building department, what am I supposed to say? What do you expect me to ask them?
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I fix
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your poor roof
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permit and fix your roof.
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[00:18:53] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
No, I'm asking you to go there and get a permit so that you can fix your roof. Oh,
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I see. So
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you
[00:19:00] Speaker 10 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
want me to go get a permit to fix my whole roof?
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Yeah,
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I want
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you to repair your whole roof.
[00:19:03] Speaker 10
Okay. That's his thing. And no, 30 days wouldn't be good because of the iron thing.
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[00:19:13] Speaker 10
A lot of people. So,
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‸ not 30
[00:19:16] Speaker 10
days and I've got three months is good enough for me.
[00:19:18] Speaker 2
Well, and that's what I was trying to do to find out because you originally said, oh, that's an easy fix. It would take us no time. That's
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right. And
[00:19:25] Speaker 2
according to what he's trying to tell you, it would be more ‸ time than 30 days. Right. So I just
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want
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to be sure because, of course, you don't have to ‸ go on what his recommendation is.
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is
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totally up to you. Right.
[00:19:40] Speaker 10
Okay.
[00:19:42] Speaker 2
So
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But again.
[00:19:58] Speaker 6
Mr. Chair. Yes, sir. I'd like to make a motion on this, please. Okay. Okay.
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[00:20:11] Speaker 6
Be found in violation of, uh, exterior, uh, general condition, uh, roofs and drainage. The weeds have been corrected. So they'll, um, we're going to change the days it takes to repair the violation to 90 days, please. And, uh, a fine of $50 a day will be imposed until the violation is corrected.
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That sounds good.
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Um,
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okay. Uh, I, I'm not sure how to put that in, I guess, uh, on the violations that they're, that they're being inspected, um, every 30 days to, uh, make sure that the,
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[00:21:16] Speaker 11
Mr. Chair, did you mean 30 day updates to the board for the board to be notified of the progress? Yes,
[00:21:22] Speaker 2
ma'am. So,
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Mr. Brown, if you want to amend your motion to add, uh, with
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[00:21:35] Speaker 6
Okay. I'd like to add, uh, that the, um, violations will, uh, ‸ be reviewed and, uh, presented to the board every 30 days until corrected.
[00:21:53] Speaker 8
I'll second.
[00:21:56] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Motion on the floor with the second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Those opposed? Motion passed unanimously. So ma'am, um, you now have 90 days ‸ and we need you to ensure that you stay in contact with code enforcement officers. So you guys can work together and they can bring an update so we can hopefully get this resolved. Okay.
[00:22:20] Speaker 12 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Okay. Thank you.
[00:22:21] Speaker 2
No, thank you. You have a wonderful evening, ma'am. ‸ Next case.
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I am
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submitting a packet of documents and photos associated with this case. The photos accurately depict the property during my visits and show my findings of accumulation of trash and litter
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section
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6-900
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A through D
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Through my first inspection, I found the property in violation of the above mentioned section to the city code. I've attempted to gain voluntary compliance in this case, but as of my last
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violation. I've worked
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to contact the property owner, yielding a negative results. I ‸ brought
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working ‸ this case for 63 days and the violations have not been fully resolved. I sent the
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‸ It
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was
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certified and posted on the property
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in
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violation.
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finds in case 22-0543 that the owner is in violation and recommend 30 days be given to come into compliance. There are
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imposed for each state of
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Mr. Chairman, the pictures in the presentation show a trailer that's parked in a driveway under trailers in the yard
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All trailers must be parked behind the front setbacks of the house on the rear of the ‸ property. And then, as you can see depicted in the pictures, there's rugs and wood and miscellaneous trash and debris that is pretty standard in the yard in all the photographs. In this picture, you can see a pile of stuff covered with a tarp and some old mowers and gas cans out in front of the house.
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Is he running a business out
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of this home? It appears to be that way, but that was not cited.
[00:24:45] Speaker 2
Have you, I know you've attempted, but has there been any contact with the owners and where could that trailer be parked for it not to be in violation?
[00:25:00] Speaker 4
It could be parked on the side. They'd have to open that gate that's covered up by the rug and the wood and then they just have to back it up in there.
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in the yard. We've had no contact with the owner. We've
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And when you look that
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agents. So we've had no contact.
[00:25:36] Speaker 2
No breadcrumbs to follow, huh?
[00:25:38] Speaker 1 (name not verified)
No. I've knocked on the door as well and haven't had any contact.
[00:25:43] Speaker 6
Can the trailer be stored on the grass?
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If it's on the side or rear of the property.
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‸ Looks like the house behind
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would have to suffer with looking at all that stuff.
[00:26:01] Speaker 4
‸ Well, yes, and it needs to be looked at for running a business, but that was not cited when this case got started. So it's not being heard today. All of this area is
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area of duplexes. It's a cul-de-sac and ‸ a cul-de-sac of duplexes.
[00:26:21] Speaker 2
Now, just a question, maybe kind of irrelevant, but is that fence even wide enough for that trailer to go into there?
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stuff blocked in front of it.
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it's a wider gate, most of them have wider openings. I'd have to look at that.
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side or find somewhere else to park it if he couldn't get it in the back.
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But as I stated, we do have other homes in that same neighborhood that have trailers. Most of them do park them on the sides.
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board once where they parked it in, but they moved it to the side as well. So it is possible to meet the requirement of the code at that location.
[00:27:14] Speaker 2
So that's one of the ones that would be pretty easy.
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Junk and autos will be all those lawn equipment, correct?
[00:27:28] Speaker 1 (name not verified)
Yes, there's
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equipment. At one point,
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think there was car parts
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my initial inspection. Okay. There's miscellaneous parts ‸ there. Yes, sir. Gotcha.
[00:27:38] Speaker 4
So this is rental property. Yeah, they're all duplexes that are for rent. Under the tarp, we surmise that it was a motorcycle of some kind or some kind of riding, which also constituted the storing of junk autos that has been removed.
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which is where we get our accumulation from.
[00:28:05] Speaker 6
So when you talk to the, did you talk to the renter or to the owner?
[00:28:10] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
He's knocked on the door and had no contact. Nobody answered the door. And we have not been able to reach the owner because it's a series of LLCs. I
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see. So nobody's really talked to you about this.
[00:28:22] Speaker 4
Correct.
[00:28:23] Speaker 2
‸ Now, in your experience,
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How do we, because the goal is to get people to clean up so the neighborhood can, I mean, come up in a sense. How do we go, how do we deal with this as far as going down the line?
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We
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will just continue to post the actual property, um, with our notices and still make attempts to knock on the door and speak to the tenant.
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in reality, ‸ this does appear to be related to a business and he may have to find a new location to run his lawn service business, which is what it appears to be at a different location. If that's the case. Okay.
[00:29:16] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
So he still has all this stuff we see here outside all the time. This is from today from
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this morning. And then so is that.
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he still has items out there and then the trailer.
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I'll take a motion.
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a motion
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if
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you'd like. Okay. Uh, I'd like to
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uh, found in, uh, violation of accumulation of trash and litter. And also storing junk or junk autos. And also trailer in the yard. And that a. Should be corrected when in 30 days or a fine of $75 a day will be imposed.
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Motion on the floor with the second. All in favor, say aye. Aye.
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This is a repeat offense case. The property owner was previously found to be in violation of the same violation
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2022.
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With this case, the photos accurately depict ‸ property during my visits and show my findings of protect protective treatment.
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B. I visited the site nine times. During my first inspection, I found the property
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repeat. Violation of the above mentioned sections of the city code. The property was in repeat
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When I observed voluntary compliance in this case. I have made attempts to contact ‸ property owner with negative results. I brought this case before the code enforcement board as a repeat offense. And
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until the violation was fully resolved. I sent the notice of repeat violation. And hearing on
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And it was certified and posted on the property
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violation.
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That the owner is in repeat violation and recommends a fine of $500 be imposed for each day. The property was in violation.
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The question. Um, this is a repeat violation. Was
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it for the same violation or another violation? Yes. Same property owner. Same violation. Same
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violation.
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Different property.
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Okay.
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this particular. Property owner was also brought to the board last month on a house on Polaris for the same issue of protective treatment. And back in March, um, a property that they own on Hillsdale. Um, so they have several rentals. Um, the pictures that were showing this shows that they painted the entire side of the property and along the front fascia and the,
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side, you can see that's all new paint. Um,
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cracks chipping in this picture with some weathering at the bottom. That was the side of the house before it was painted. You can see the fascia needed painting and the book was done. So again, we just have another protective treatment, um, violation and we're bringing it as a repeat because this is technically the third property. Now that we have last month, it was not a repeat because Mr. Gonzalez sent a regular notice of violation. So we did not do a repeat, but we did a repeat on this address.
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big garage. Well,
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this
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is the garage
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portion of the house. Um, but if you look at these pictures, that's the side window where bedrooms or whatever would be. And there's some missing siding and some issues there, but it's an actual house. See, that's the front of the house and the door. Does the whole
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place have to be painted or just to finish with the...
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Patches. Like then there's a section here that needed to be painted because there's no siding and there's exposure up near the
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In the front, there was some weathering. I'll get back to that picture. You can see there with the bricks are missing. The face is missing and the wood is faded in the front here.
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can see the weathering, the chipping along the top and the mist paint that needed to be cleaned and then painted. And then they did paint. That's the final project. They painted it and they came into compliance on that
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violation was in violation until it was achieved.
[00:34:55] Speaker 11
How many days total? Because it's complied now, right?
[00:34:59] Speaker 4
Correct. It applied on, uh, 10, 4.
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So how many days total? That
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would be easier for them.
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There you go.
[00:35:17] Speaker 8
So you want the 21 days at $500 times 21 days?
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Correct. That's what a repeat would be. It's for every day since we observed the violation. That's
[00:35:26] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
the maximum. Right. You can go up to $500 a day for a repeat violation. That's within your discretion.
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Do we have the property owner here?
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Yeah,
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right here.
[00:35:40] Speaker 2
Would you like to step up and be sworn in, sir?
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How you doing?
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Good
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evening, everyone.
[00:35:47] Speaker 3
Sir. Sir. You need to be sworn in.
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Yeah.
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[00:36:03] Speaker 13
All right, good sir. What can you tell us about this? Okay, so, you know, what, what, we own maybe 200 properties, right? So what's the percentage of a whole group of properties are going to require protective treatment?
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and I had a conversation with, uh, with Vincent, okay? Because I'm kind of new here in Florida.
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own a lot
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then they, then I have another property that has that same violation for protective treatment. If one of them gets satisfied, then now ‸ I have to work on the other one to get satisfied.
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was, uh, he was mentioning Polaris back in March.
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It's, it's,
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So just because something that happened in March, which we complied to, what effect should it have on this property, which incidentally has been painted?
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has a code, which is a violation, then you should do your due diligence to keep all your properties.
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[00:37:36] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice
get a painter. Excuse me. Um, in this particular case, I can rattle off five, six other properties that have been before this board and
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So at some point in time, that's why the state statute allows for a repeat violation,
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come to this. He's correct. If he corrects the violation when he gets a notice, it never comes to the co-board, it would be okay. But obviously he's been to the co-board. I gave you the one in March on Hillsdale and then I gave you the one on Polaris last month. There's also been other cases that have been before this board for the ‸ same company. So what we need is a property manager that looks out for that. So the purpose of the repeat is to let them know that, hey, you keep doing this. Don't do it anymore. Be warned.
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state statute that way. They can be fined from the time the violation is observed and noticed for each day. The violation stays a violation. Otherwise, you're continuously citing somebody, bringing them to the board, complying the case and they're coming back. And that's what we're actually trying to avoid. It kind of defeats the purpose of what we're doing. So that's why we have repeats in Florida.
[00:38:58] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I have a question on this. If he paints it, does it have to match the paint that's on there now? No.
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Our code is strictly for protective treatment. So he can paint it any color. We don't dictate colors.
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the
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building have ten different colors on it? It
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could. Our code is for protective treatment to have a protective coating over any raw surface to protect against weathering and raw, etc. So we do not govern colors, what kind of colors, as long as there's a protective coating.
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No.
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had a protective coating on it.
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here, why are you not contacting the code enforcement officers to get an idea of exactly what needs to be done?
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Because when you're given a notice, you have time to get that taken care of before it actually comes before us. Right. So what I'm trying to ask you, if you're getting the notices and you have this time in between, why are you not working with them to not have to come here?
[00:40:34] Speaker 13
Because we have a lot of properties and we have violations on a lot of properties.
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It's hard for us to get employees. It's hard for us to get workers. We try to do the best we can.
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for a great amount of rent. You know, we really try to work. We work hard at this. It's not like we don't.
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properties as well. You know, things that we had to have permits pulled and trying to get contractors to pull permits.
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we're really trying hard. You know, I mean, I think it's doing us an injustice charging us $500 a day. It's just an injustice.
[00:41:22] Speaker 2
Well, again, that's a maximum at this time that's recommended. You understand that part?
[00:41:30] Speaker 13
I also understand that on 807 Hillsdale, the house is in compliance. On 116 Polaris, we got cited. The house is in compliance. This house we got cited. This house is in compliance.
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Polaris is not in compliance. The main house is painted, but there's still a whole back section that meets that requirement of the violation. He can get with Officer Gonzalez on that. Again, the repeat is the fact that this is a reoccurring issue on a regular basis within a five year period. And you do the repeat because you have to keep continuously noticing ‸ this here. I would suggest that he keeps tabs on his properties and when painting needs to be done, they just do it.
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property and keep it in, you know, in check. I'm glad he painted this property. But again, we've had multiples come before this board and that's why it's a repeat.
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I asked a question. Do you have a property manager that goes out and looks at all of your
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properties? ‸ We're all in the same group. So
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this.
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together and every day. That's what we do. We go out and look at our properties and we try to make improvements and we talk to our tenants.
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yeah, we do that.
[00:43:01] Speaker 7
Do you have a routine checklist of the times that you go out?
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we so it's kind of like setting a schedule for the day and then by 10 o'clock that schedule is gone because so many other things are, you know, just happening. But we try to get out to as many properties as we can every day. I mean, isn't that something that we just don't like, you know, 20 properties.
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Yeah, four people.
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it's
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a lot. Um, Mr. Chair. Yes, sir. I'd like to make a motion on this. Try and make something. We can work with the gentleman.
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protective treatment. And I would like to make the fine $75 a day. I'm sure he's going to get it done so we don't have to put a fine on them.
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It's already.
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it and.
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It's already
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been corrected. It's been corrected.
[00:44:13] Speaker 4
It's been corrected.
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property?
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On this property.
[00:44:24] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
So he's got to correct it within a certain amount of time anyway.
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What we're, what you're doing is making a motion to, uh, amend what the staff has already recommended, $500 a day. Because he's already corrected.
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So you said $75. It will be $75 times 21 days.
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of $75 per day for 21 days in violation.
[00:45:02] Speaker 6
So these pictures show the paint work is all done.
[00:45:07] Speaker 4
Correct. As of October 4th. These are all the pictures? Well, they were pictures from the date that he corrected it and painted it.
[00:45:17] Speaker 6
Okay.
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Okay. Well,
[00:45:19] Speaker 6
seeing, I'm looking at this is not a real safety factor. It's a, it's a look factor. And I, I'm ‸ not for the, ‸ I, I mean, we can vote on this and see what you folks think. But I would say
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[00:45:36] Speaker 6
Uh, and there's, there's no time limit. So $75 a day for the, uh, repeat violation.
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Of 21 days
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of 21 days. ‸ All right.
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have a motion on the floor for amending with a second. ‸ All in favor say aye.
[00:46:12] Speaker 1 (name not verified)
Aye. Those opposed motion passes unanimously. So at this time,
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sir, you have still have that option because it still has to go to the council.
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It's a done deal at this point.
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So what we've done is unless he appeals
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it.
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Okay. So I still have that option.
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So, so the completion was on, on October 4th, right? So from October 4th, 21 days back is what we're, we're being charged for.
[00:46:48] Speaker 2
Yes, sir.
[00:46:49] Speaker 13
Okay. All right. And that's because of a repeat violation on which property
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on this property. This property is a repeat and it's a repeat because you had another property that came before this
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Polaris now.
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So if you keep coming before the board and you have a five year, you can be a repeat within that five year period.
[00:47:17] Speaker 13
Okay. All right. Thank you.
[00:47:21] Speaker 2
You have a wonderful evening. Good sir. All right. You too. Thank you very much.
[00:47:25] Speaker 3
Mr. Roberts, was the second Sherry Scott?
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Yes. Yes.
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Okay.
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Sorry about that.
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Let me turn the air conditioning down and here or what?
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And
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have been in the statute
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Um, previous officers did not always send repeat violations, but we've had many. So we're actually starting to do some now.
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ones. We will separate them better on the agenda, but I did want to let everybody know that this was not something new that just came up. It's actually been there officers in the past just elected to send regular notices out. But on
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So
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can I ask a question? So versus doing a repeat on the property, do we do a repeat on the actual company versus the properties?
[00:48:27] Speaker 4
Well, it's, it's a property owner.
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Um,
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they, they would own the property. So it can be the same property in violation for the same thing or the same owner
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I know this is new, so I see everybody's face and ‸ we've had some in the past come, but not as often.
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Now, would there, would it be a problem to have a another section on the agenda for repeats?
[00:49:04] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
We're already going to do that. Okay. I discussed with my staff today that starting in November, we need to have violations, non-compliance, repeat violations,
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They're lumped. Okay. Them all together and not just have them in the violations to make it easier. Okay. Sounds good.
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And it would be helpful to have the prior order to, um, that the initial, the initial order. I think you have an order, but it wasn't signed and
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for them to know what ‸ the initial fine was the first time around. And, you know, maybe they might decide to double it or something. Yes,
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we can absolutely, um, supply that and that's how some boards will do it.
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Um, some set new fines. It's completely up to the board, but that would be a help and I will make sure that they start including a clearer copy. So that everybody can know what the previous case was.
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They've actually been before this board.
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Multiple times.
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Multiple times. And not just for protective treatment. They have some other cases too that could actually end up being a repeat.
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um,
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okay. Okay.
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All right.
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Thank you. All right. Case number 11. CE 220682.
[00:50:48] Speaker 14 (introduced as “Mike Folger” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
The address for this case is 3645 Longbow Road. My name is Mike Folger code enforcement officer. This is a repeat offense case. The property owner was previously found to
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I am submitting a packet of documents and photos associated with this case. The photos accurately accurately depict the property during my visits and show my findings of accumulation of trash and litter.
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I visited this site 10 times during my first ‸ inspection. I found the property to be in violation of the above mentioned sections of the city code. I've attempted to gain voluntary compliance in this case, but as of my last inspection on October 20th, 2022, the property remains in violation. I've been working on this case since September 27th, 2022, and have made attempts to contact the property owner. I brought this case before the code enforcement board as I've been working on this case for 24 days and the violations have not been fully resolved. I sent
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certified and posted on the property in violation. Staff finds in case number 22-0682 that the owner is in violation and recommends 30 days be given to come into compliance or a fine of $500 a day be imposed for each day that the violation remains until compliance is achieved.
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No, you're not giving them any days to comply.
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That's
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correct.
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You're just going to impose a fine from the date. If you find them in violation, you would impose a fine from the date he first observed
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testified that it's still in non-compliance then the fine just keeps running, the daily fine. So you should take that into consideration when determining the amount of the fine
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sir could I ask you a question on this? Yes, sir. Basically, you got some trash around this place, right? Yes,
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sir.
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And it's a repeat violation. Yes. And you talk to the owners and they can't remove it they want to take a chance of $500 a day
[00:53:13] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice
mr. chair this case actually came before the board and received a lien. She also came to the board for a lien forgiveness. ‸ apparently her boyfriend or somebody there scraps and brings home old furniture so I want to point out in the pictures you can see
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‸ underneath the overhang is a pile of debris. In this picture, again, we have some appliances up by the garage. ‸ We have a refrigerator out in the middle of the yard. So she's actually been here, gotta find got a reduction, and now has reverted back to exactly what you see, resulting in a lot of neighbor complaints for the condition of the property. so Is there
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anyone here for the property? No.
[00:54:13] Speaker 4
Nobody's here tonight, but she has been before the board and we've spoken to her. ‸ And that's one of the reasons we went ahead and did a repeat on this one is because she's actually been through the entire process, including a lien reduction. And she's spoken with us and it stayed good for a little over a year and now it's went back to what it is today. How
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many days are we looking at on this? She's
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still in violation as of today. She has not come into compliance. So if you find a repeat today, that fine will run until she cleans up the property and it's abated.
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started on the 27th of September okay
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and
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probably a few days before that before we noticed it, but.
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I'm just saying we have in the past and she's been aware and come to the hearings and got a fine reduction. So she's fully aware of the situation, but we have not spoken to her on the repeat case.
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done one lien reduction. Would she have the ability to do another lien reduction?
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Well, you can't ask for a lien reduction until you're in compliance right so if she did come into compliance I think the code, does the code have a limit on when you can ask for another lien reduction? Yes,
[00:55:52] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
it's one year.
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Yeah.
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So within the same year or within a year from the last lien reduction, she can't ask for another. Typically, if you're a repeat violation, that comes into play with the decision of the board on what they want to reduce to. If they want to reduce it all, you would take that into effect. But she wouldn't be allowed. It would have to be a full year since her last lien reduction. And
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you said she was good for about a year.
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She was good when she did it. Now her lien reduction came after she came into compliance and then
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was months. So
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for a ‸ reduction
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still got a couple months that she'd have to
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you apply and you have to wait a year before you can apply again.
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okay
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a door on it
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It did. Now he he moved it. That was only there for a few days. But yes, that was a full refrigerator with a door. And then they had some washing machines and stuff that were up at the front.
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this picture, some of that's cleaned up. There's still items up there. You can see this is shows that the refrigerator was moved, but they try to cover some stuff up in the back there that they placed around the corner. so that's the property. It stays like that now. ‸ There we go. that's it
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as you can see in this picture, the whole front door area is covered with miscellaneous items
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And notice was posted there. Yes, everything we do, we send on a repeat, we send the letter out certified mail and we post the property. Just in case service is not obtained. So we meet both qualifications of the statute by posting the property that's in violation and sending a certified letter.
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I'd be scared to go there I shoot a bow and arrow to the door
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all right I'll make the motion I'll make a motion
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violation of accumulation of trash and litter.
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per day be imposed until compliance is achieved.
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you still second yes ma'am I have a question on discussion is this owned by the people that live there
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owns it. um And that's why she got the lean reduction the last time and stuff. And they're still the same people that live there. Yes.
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the second. All in favor say aye. Aye.
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motion passes unanimously.
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And
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now we're on to our non-compliance And one for non-compliance uh ce 21-0747
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property
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802 pawpaw street for the record my name is Augusta Gonzalez code enforcement officer I'm submitting photos that I
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They accurately depict the property during my visits. This case is brought to the
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violation of parking in the yard. Section 6-900 b9
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Section 6-900 b1 A3D. store and junker autos. Section 6-902. B1 and 2. The compliance date
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of hearing for non-compliance on September
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2022. And it was said certified and posted on the property in question. At this time, the property remains in violation. And the property owner is not here.
[01:01:22] Speaker 4
For the record, the photographs that we're looking at shows multiple vehicles um on tagged sitting in in the vacant lot. There's also a boat on a trailer with a flat tire. There's miscellaneous items such as tires and other debris scattered along the fence line. And in the back, as you can see there, there's a tank and an old computer chair and items sitting there.
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this last month? The
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month before. The month before. And nobody showed up then. So it came in August and they were given time. And now it's been brought back for non-compliance There's been no change in the property.
[01:02:11] Speaker 6
How does he mow the lawn and all this stuff with all the stuff in the way?
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the grass.
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that means the
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the same address or the same owner as inside the gate?
[01:02:42] Speaker 4
No.
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Okay.
[01:02:44] Speaker 4
It's a different property, different owner. Now, do the cars belong to the gentleman inside the gate at the house next door? That's
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possibility. But there's no tags and we can't go back in that area and look at at that. So,
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I
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think we talked about this, but um if that boat is registered, it should be some type of um signage on the
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it's old and like I said, the trailer is old, one of the tires are flat.
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become the dumping ground right on the corner of pawpaw and the cross street that
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um
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um you could run it and if they still have it on the record,
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of trail of going back. That's
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that's just my thought. Maybe I'm wrong. It
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could
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be. ‸ And if Augusto can see it from, you know, the right of way, he can write it down and we can have PD run it and see what we can come up with. that's definitely a good suggestion. ‸ or
[01:04:04] Speaker 6
is it part of the actual house lot?
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No, this is just a corner lot that
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owned by somebody completely different than the surrounding properties.
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So there shouldn't be anything on it period. No,
[01:04:17] Speaker 4
it should just be a vacant lot.
[01:04:19] Speaker 2
but That it's concerning also, um because at the school we have kids that walk down there and there used to be a dog down there.
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‸ That
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correct
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that's, that's very concerning to me.
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moved because I stay in there ‸ Yeah,
[01:04:42] Speaker 4
the dog, the dog's been moved, but, um you're right. This is that same area.
[01:04:50] Speaker 2
Okay. ‸ we've driven down there. um ‸ so no one's here.
[01:04:59] Speaker 6
uh
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‸ take a
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motion. I'll give you a motion, sir. uh
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non-compliance
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Second up.
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I'll second.
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Motion on the floor with the second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Those
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So we are now on to new business. ‸ I have a request for foreclosure on code lanes for 618 South Bar Avenue. Okay.
[01:05:48] Speaker 4
Mr. Chair, you got to bear with me. This is the first one I've done since I've been here. um We're together on this thing The location of the property is 618 South Bar. This property has been brought before this board for two separate code cases and found in violation and
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We've decided to bring this before the board and ask your permission to move forward with a foreclosure after not gaining any compliance on the property. The property becoming worse and the fines accumulating to a high number. here are some photos that show the property. As of today, we recently tagged these vehicles because the registrations expired, but we did get a call from uh the resident's ex-wife who said she was getting the tags put on. uh but you can see the property has accumulated even more items and become more filled like a scrap yard junkyard um this is in the middle of a residential neighborhood on var just down the street from a park.
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the property has gotten worse. So after consultation with the city manager, um we were authorized to move forward with a foreclosure on the liens and the property. I have spoken with the, um
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of the estate.
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doing and that we were moving forward. She completely understood, but she's going to try to clean up the property in the meantime. To avoid that, but we're only requesting that you grant us permission to begin the process of a foreclosure.
[01:08:04] Speaker 11
That's required under Chapter 162 that the board authorized foreclosure.
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Okay. um I have someone here in reference to this property. There's
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a representative um for the tenant. That's here. He's
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back there.
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You can step to the podium, please.
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‸ Good evening.
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Hello. i need to swear you? in Sir?
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My name is Roger Wayne Collins.
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the whole truth and nothing but the truth so have you got? Yes,
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ma'am. I'm stepping in a hot water heater. And
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what's your name and address, please?
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roger Wayne Collins.
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um The caregiver of my mom, Ruth Collins. Yes. And between me and her, we talked to one of the code enforcements. And
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I'm going to help clean up that mess. But right now I'm talking to Hathaway, trying to get my nephew with the temporary uh trespassing,
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because he'll pull guns ‸ on me. He'll do this.
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around and clean it up. My brother has not should have let that got that bad. And now it's coming back on the rest of the family.
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with him and with Ruth. They did sign a blanket trespass. So anybody who's not a resident of the property,
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be on the property.
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remove some people from the property that were beginning to come and take items and go again. This is about correcting the violation, but it's about moving forward on a foreclosure. The foreclosure is not done in a week or a day.
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um So, as I explained to them, they still have time to begin to clean the property and if doing so prior to the filing of the foreclosure, this could all go away and move through the regular code channels. uh Foreclosure is not easy. um We are trying to enforce the blanket trespass. So anytime Mr. Collins wants to go out there, if he contacts us, we'll have an officer go with him um so that he can make strides in cleaning up the property.
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is there and trying to run things, but my mom
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last name, but she got inherited with it, and she's on the deed. Well,
[01:11:01] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I don't know who's on the deed, because we did the title work, and
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and therefore my brother been paying the taxes and
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therefore now it's kicking back to my mom, and therefore as long as my nephew is there, I'm not going there, because I know he'll pull guns on me, he'll try to fight me. I'm done with that.
[01:11:31] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice
And just to let you know, the
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because there's transients that are staying there,
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there just the other day, because they were burning in the front yard, and she removed people. um So Ruth Collins, who's part of the estate,
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paperwork. If they have a right to be there, they can be there. If they don't live there, and they're just
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listed in the paperwork, not in any of the
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do with, um I
[01:12:20] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
think it was going to be a foreclosure
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before, and he they put his name on it, but he's a tenant that's there,
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and So
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it yesterday. If he's incarcerated right now, and but it's Daryl
[01:12:38] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
is there now, and.
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junior
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[01:12:43] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
‸ Okay. I'm
[01:12:44] Speaker 2
sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. No, ‸ you're good. um Now, was he, was he one of the people that was um taken out of there?
[01:12:53] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice
He, I don't know, because Coco PD and Hathaway has not notified me because he was supposed to talk to the chief. He has my telephone number, and no one hasn't notified me that he's away from there because he has his keys to his truck. He's been driving it. um
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the morning. He's there asleep from, from three to seven in the morning.
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Because once he wake up,
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couple questions here. um How, so your brother is in jail? is there Is there a time frame that you know that he's going to be incarcerated? I
[01:13:54] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
don't know how long he's going to be in there uh
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It's there. But now it's sucking up on me. I'm the baby brother. And it's kicking back on me. But as long as my nephew is there, me and him don't get along. He just like his dad. I'm not going there until he's gone. ‸ And
[01:14:20] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Mr. Chair, we can work that out with Mr. Collins and anytime he wants to go, we can have people there. um Just to let you know, our office is actually like five houses down the street uh ‸ that property. So we can easily be there as far as correcting the violation. because parvin
[01:14:38] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
like he said, parvin he talked to Parvin,
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clarifications because like I told him, I know the clarifications. The truck shouldn't have been enough on the road point blank because that's a leeway to
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[01:14:57] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
bad. It makes my mom feel so bad to where she don't feel like going around there.
[01:15:03] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Now this, this is not going to be easy, ‸ easy task as far as a foreclosure or clean up So the faster you can get on top of this with code enforcement and law enforcement, the better chances you would have to save what you can here. um sure there are some, it's going
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cost ‸ as far as getting this stuff out of there and
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clean up there. Yes, sir.
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And I have a question. Yes, sir.
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I didn't correct that.
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Yes, sir.
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been To us
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many, many, many times.
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Yes, sir. Yes. Okay. Is he the one that's in jail?
[01:16:01] Speaker 4
Yes.
[01:16:04] Speaker 6
But there's people living in the home right now.
[01:16:07] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
um well, since his last visit to our code board, he began to set up some tents and allow people from provost Park and transients and um some prostitutes stay on the property.
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and he built a little fence to hide everything. um So it's actually just gotten a lot worse. Who owns
[01:16:27] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
all the vehicles? My brother does. Yeah. But, you know, again, you know,
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say why he. So
[01:16:40] Speaker 6
the titles are all in his name? Yes. Okay.
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And so again, I just want
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or fine because the violations are still there running.
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notification of anybody who's listed under the George Bradley estate and a process, but we wanted to be at least get that started. um we can deal with the property as it comes into compliance and the attorney can speak more on the foreclosure, but we would like to at least start that because this is what we're looking at every day. And
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the property. now,
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now, counselor now, how would we go about, uh we'll just do the same thing as we would do a normal case and just help someone would make a motion to. All
[01:17:37] Speaker 11
you're going to do is, is move to authorize foreclosure. That's all. That's all you're going to do is you're authorizing the city to foreclose.
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So
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that
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but it's a simple motion. Just I move to authorize foreclosure or I move to not authorize foreclosure, which whichever way you want to go.
[01:18:01] Speaker 16
Okay. um well, so I've got a question. What, what, what is, what is, what is the goal after it's cleaned up? So like, um your, your brother may get out and may want to stay there. I mean, so if he's accumulated this now and he gets out of prison and then he wants to stay here, will he go back to start accumulating again? Or will something else happen with the property?
[01:18:31] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Well, let me say it like this.
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I got respect for the whole, uh everybody was here, but to that, um no, we're not gonna let him do that. ‸ Because you didn't cause
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the family,
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It goes to her. She's crying over it and then making the neighborhood
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given in this time frame that you may have to to clean it up and get everything straight, then we won't have any more issues or problems with this property after this.
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No. Because it I didn't know it
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a foreclose on it because right now, if we get it cleaned up and according to what happened to him, she's gonna ‸ make the decision what she's gonna ‸ do with that property because she just went and paid the
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and me, my sister, and my brother was in California,
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and what happened to him. So
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we won't know the time frame that it's going to take to to start and do the foreclosure on, but there is a possibility that they may be able to save it if they get everything and come in compliance. Right.
[01:20:01] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
And that's what
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they have to pay all this. So they
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have to pay all the fine
[01:20:05] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
That's, that's the list I want from him. I stop by his office. If he can make me a list of what he want in compliance and where to go. because
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which means since he's been in jail, telling me this, telling me that I'm done. My point of view is he got me at a point to where I'm saying, I'm gonna ‸ let it go. I'm
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I'm willing to clean it up. I'm willing to do that, but I'm not going around ‸ with my nephew. That's just the bottom line.
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because he think he
[01:20:49] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
runs everything and he don't. Just playing devil's advocate here.
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No, that takes uh the time. Now if we say we vote not to move with foreclosure, what happens then we go back to just dead time where this stuff is sitting there being a nuisance on. the line also
[01:21:15] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
keeps accruing and continuing and continuing.
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So we
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find
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to foreclosure. Now,
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does that stop? Because now we're going to start with foreclosure. Yeah. The fines stop.
[01:21:34] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Once the foreclosure is filed, then well, I think probably it has to be a successful foreclosure, then the fines would stop.
[01:21:47] Speaker 2
So no matter what, the fines are not going to stop, pretty much.
[01:21:52] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Pretty much. um
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[01:22:00] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice
would probably stop the fines from running.
[01:22:03] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I'm sorry, following The
[01:22:04] Speaker 11
Liz
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[01:22:05] Speaker 11
that's what you, that's the document you record in the property records that, that says there's litigation pending on this case. So once, once we do file the lawsuit, then that should stop the fines. They can't be collected anymore at that point. um but by the time it takes, I already have the title work. I went ahead and got the title work done.
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[01:22:37] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice · overlapping voices · Unclear audio
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because what
[01:22:37] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
what happened, ma'am, excuse me, is she was trying to get an affidavit signed by him. But at the point of time, he died before she can get the affidavit to him to get the title
[01:22:51] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) · Machine re-recognized
and
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[01:22:52] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
the registration because my dad was living at the point of time my dad died in 2011.
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[01:22:58] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
and I don't know what happened for it not getting done.
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[01:23:09] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
and now i'm seeing it's a whole big big balloon and i do apologize I
[01:23:17] Speaker 11
do
[01:23:19] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
apologize to all ‸ you. of them
[01:23:22] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
But that's the, i I got the probate documents because it did go through probate, but this particular piece of property did not get disposed of in probate. And it could have been because there was also a bank foreclosure going on as well. um
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[01:23:47] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
So it's still kind of up in the air. So when we did the title work,
[01:23:51] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · Machine re-recognized
that
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[01:23:51] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
the title examiner determined that the owner of the property is the estate of George Bradley, who was the previous property owner. So, right and then the probate lists about 15, looks like they're all cousins, who are the heirs. So but we would have to name and serve all those people probably have to serve Mr. Collins, who's been residing in the premises and anyone else residing on the premises. So it would be a little bit complicated and costly to go through the process of foreclosure.
[01:24:32] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
But
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[01:24:37] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice
that list maybe each one of them didn't want to deal with it so it ended up falling in my dad's a mom hand. ‸ And from what I'm gathering from her this is what I'm
[01:24:50] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice · Machine re-recognized
getting
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[01:24:50] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice
from her.
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And
[01:24:55] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
I'm like again I'm
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[01:24:59] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
and I'm sorry to say it like that but that's the way I feel. But I'm willing to go around there like I was I'm saying just go around there and ‸ clean it up because
[01:25:10] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) · Unclear audio
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[01:25:15] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
white Cadillac to where it is now. Hell what happened. I'm sorry to say it like that I apologize. i I apologize for saying ‸ like that.
[01:25:26] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Well again the biggest concern because I was trying to because the goal is ‸ to not trying to push people out of their home. But still we can't sacrifice the home for the entire neighborhood. That's in a sense. So that's why I was asking those questions about trying seeing what we can do to stop. Hold on. What we can stop
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[01:26:00] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
to work on it. But when Mr. Collins your brother has been here multiple times. he's so headstrong. He said he's working and he's working and he said one thing out of his mouth. But then on the next the next day he's got more stuff out there. Yes. And our thought process I don't know anybody anyone else's but my thought process is we say okay no foreclosure because they're
[01:26:30] Attribution uncertain
going
[01:26:30] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
to be able to do this to do that.
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[01:26:49] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
with a bunch more junk the next day. um So
[01:26:53] Speaker 8
at
[01:26:55] Speaker 2
this point I'm not sure what we can do. um But I'm ready to take a motion if possible.
[01:27:01] Speaker 8 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I'll give you. I'll do the motion.
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[01:27:11] Speaker 8 + overlapping voice
and case number
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[01:27:18] Speaker 8 + overlapping voice
um I motion that we do move forward to allow the foreclosure proceedings to begin in both of these
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[01:27:29] Speaker 2
floor with a second. All in favor say aye.
[01:27:31] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Aye. aye Those
[01:27:33] Speaker 2
opposed? Motion passing unanimously.
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[01:27:39] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice
you can't continue to work with
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[01:27:42] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
no,
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‸ work
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[01:27:46] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice
write me and call me in the morning. I think you still have my number. Yes, I do. And
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[01:27:54] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice
And if I can get a copy of that with the numbers on it, whenever I, if you can, if you can't, you know, but if the chairman, if the chairman is okay with that, if the chairman is okay with that,
[01:28:08] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice · Unclear audio
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[01:28:13] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice
you can give it to him and
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[01:28:18] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
give him to you he'll get
[01:28:19] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice · overlapping voices · Machine re-recognized
them
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[01:28:19] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice
to you. Okay. And I do highly appreciate y'all trying to work with me.
[01:28:23] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
We appreciate you coming down and trying to give us more insight because the thing about it, when you don't come and we have nothing to go on, the only thing we can do is give you what's the maximum. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So um I appreciate your time and your due diligence to try and help correct things in our city because we definitely need it. We need more citizens to come out and care. Yes, sir. So thank you again and we appreciate you.
[01:28:54] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Yes, sir. And I will keep y'all in ‸ in the loop through him. Yes, sir. Thank you. That would be great. Okay. Thank
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you.
[01:29:02] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
You have a good evening. Yes, sir.
[01:29:04] Speaker 2
all right
[01:29:05] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
All right.
[01:29:06] Attribution uncertain
all
[01:29:06] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
right. Absolutely. I'll call you. Yes, sir. Thank you all.
[01:29:10] Speaker 2
Yes, sir. All right. We are now into ‸ our lean reductions. um Everyone should have their um cost sheets. um the
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[01:29:32] Speaker 2
olive street.
[01:29:37] Speaker 1 (name not verified) · Unclear audio
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[01:29:41] Speaker 1 (name not verified)
at which time the board found the owner, Steven D Wagner, in violation
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[01:30:04] Speaker 1 (name not verified)
and
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[01:30:11] Speaker 1 (name not verified)
provided the owner sufficient time to correct said violations. Therefore, consistent with the Code Enforcement Board's order,
[01:30:17] Speaker 1 (name not verified) · Machine re-recognized
a
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[01:30:17] Speaker 1 (name not verified)
lien was recorded
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[01:30:20] Speaker 1 (name not verified)
2009.
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[01:30:25] Speaker 1 (name not verified)
2009, until
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[01:30:37] Speaker 1 (name not verified)
D. Wagner, is requesting to lean be reduced to
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[01:30:40] Speaker 1 (name not verified)
Staff utilize the following factors in making this recommendation to reduce the lean Whether the owner owned the property at the time of the property
[01:30:47] Attribution uncertain
at the time of the violations
[01:30:47] Speaker 1 (name not verified)
occurred? Yes. Applicant resides at the property? No, the property is vacant. The property, the number of violations related to the subject
[01:30:57] Speaker 1 (name not verified) · Machine re-recognized
lien
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[01:30:57] Speaker 1 (name not verified)
Nine. Number of inspections
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performed
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[01:31:00] Speaker 1 (name not verified)
Seven. The length of time the property was in violation? 11 years and 22 days. Property taxes? There are no outstanding tax bills. Other liens? Records show that there are no outstanding weans in the property and there are no water lanes Property inspection? The inspection was conducted this morning, October 20th, 2022, and was in compliance before this code board, before this code board hearing. An inspection will occur prior to the city council meeting. The current market value of the subject property,
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[01:31:41] Speaker 1 (name not verified)
their cost sheet and the total
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[01:31:52] Speaker 1 (name not verified)
staff to prosecute the case This production is based on the gravity of the violations, the length of time it took ‸ the property coming of compliance, ‸ and the total amount of the city's cost. Per the city code, this is ‸ only ‸ recommendation to ‸ city council. If the council reduces the amount owed, payment of the reduced amount is required within 30 days of the council's decision, or the lien amount reverts back to its original amount owed, and the subsequent lien reduction
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[01:32:20] Speaker 1 (name not verified)
property owner is here.
[01:32:21] Speaker 6
How long did you say the uh
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[01:32:28] Speaker 1 (name not verified)
it was The property was a violation for 11 years and 22 days.
[01:32:32] Speaker 6
11 years?
[01:32:33] Speaker 1 (name not verified)
Yes, sir.
[01:32:40] Speaker 2
‸ property owner is here. Yes,
[01:32:43] Speaker 1 (name not verified)
sir.
[01:32:43] Speaker 2
Would the property owner like to step
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[01:32:57] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
ma'am, I do.
[01:32:57] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Please state your name and address for the records.
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My name is
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[01:33:00] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice
Wagner. uh My address
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[01:33:09] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice
um Thank you, Augusto, for that. i uh
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that
[01:33:16] Speaker 5
sounded really bad coming out of his mouth. uh But uh in short, um I think this,
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[01:33:24] Speaker 5
I don't want to call this a clerical error, but
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[01:33:30] Speaker 5
I've been, I didn't even know about this violation until I talked to uh code enforcement back in July. um The reason I called, uh I was signing a contract to finally sell this house after owning it for over 17 years. And um I had a bad feeling, um honestly. So I picked up the phone. I don't remember if, actually, I think I talked to Augusto first before I talked to uh Darla in the office. um I won't repeat what he said on the phone when he saw the amount that was attached to my lien, but we were both pretty surprised. Honestly, I was flabbergasted because I didn't even know it existed. um
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[01:34:23] Speaker 5
all of which have been
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[01:34:25] Speaker 5
You heard that I've never not paid taxes uh on this property. um I've fixed it, in fact, the way that you see it today, it's looked like that for a long time. But
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[01:34:39] Speaker 5
attached to the case, uh uh to me, is I think it's just an arbitrary date.
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[01:34:47] Speaker 5
know who closed it. I don't know why it was closed. I was never notified. I believe it was December. uh Let me look at my paper here. yeah if You have ‸ that date it was December of 2021, I believe the
[01:35:06] Speaker 1 (name not verified) + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
demand letter you received when the
[01:35:08] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
when the actual case was closed.
[01:35:11] Speaker 1 (name not verified)
oh uh December of 2020. Yeah, December 7th.
[01:35:17] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice
Yeah, so. I had no recollection of that date. um I've pulled building permits on this property um in the
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[01:35:29] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
actually 13 years since this has happened. I've had a variance granted by the by the the board to build a new porch because
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[01:35:39] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice
uh one of the cases uh was because my front porch was damaged. All that I worked with code enforcement, got it fixed, and you can see the porch
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is not there, ‸ but
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um um Actually, the most, now that I'm remembering,
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the first place, uh he cited me because uh the the uh
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a weed violation. um That's all been taken care of and resolved uh
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him about that. And when uh I called
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right back afterwards, and that's when I found out that this lien somehow had never been resolved. I have, I've got, i got lots of paperwork here. um
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to when i bought it back in 2005. uh every every violation that i've ever had has always been resolved every tax bill has been paid.
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exception today. uh or the last couple, last couple of months.
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um and quite frankly, like I said, I had no idea that ‸ this violation was, was still outstanding. um I've, I've actually got a list of the notes dating back to 2010, 2011 from, uh the code enforcement officer at the time, which was, uh
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but, um and talking with Augusto, he doesn't even have those notes that I've got. um I've got notes that said, yes, this one's been, this one's been resolved. This one's been resolved. I, I'll be more than happy to show you guys that, uh
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‸ he hasn't. I talked to Augusto and asked him if he wanted, if I, if he wanted me to share those. uh he didn't think that that was necessary. uh but I, obviously, I'll, ‸ be more than happy to share. I'll, I'll let you scan my entire book if you're really
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‸ just
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Well, Mr. Chair, let me let me speak on that. Okay. um I don't know how previously the Code Department worked. What we do is when we have a case before you and it comes to non-compliance hearing, my officers still go out every 30 days and look at those properties. That way, if they come into compliance, we know it. Also, in December, I send out demand letters for the properties to come in compliance and correct their liens, and we actually go through a list of liens um to determine whether or not those liens are still running. That's why his case closed without his knowledge in 2020, because it was on the list of old liens that we pulled up. um So that's how we operate. Based in the ‸ past, it appears that once a case went to a non-compliance hearing, the Code staff didn't do any other um work towards it, and they waited for the violator to contact them to tell them that the property was in compliance. So in Mr. Wagner's case, obviously there was a case. It went to the code board. It went into non-compliance Mr. Wagner didn't contact them, and it just ran. And
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amount of
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But
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to prosecute the case. So
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case and then what Augusto did, and the paperwork that goes in there. So he's not being fined 600 000 He's being fined for ‸ that. But that's one of the biggest problems with these older cases that we've run into is that they just kind of let it go after the non-compliance hearing and said, it's up to the violator to call us, and we're not going to go back out there.
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700 000 because we've weeded through them and taken care of them. um It is possible that this case was brought into compliance before because I had issues with Mr. Wagner back in 2014 when transients were breaking into the house, stealing copper, breaking the plumbing, and it was actually put on the condemnation list for that reason by the building official Scott Davis at the time. But time was given for him to correct the violations, and he did. He got permits, and he corrected the violations, and turned it into um what you're kind of seeing here today. It's been painted, and there's been other things done. So he got it off the condemnation list. So to accurately depict of when he came into compliance, I wasn't here in
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we saw that it was in compliance with that code, and that would have been December 2020. So that's where he's getting the date issue of not being there.
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What was the compliance date? What was the due date? The original compliance ‸ Do you have the original ‸ I don't have
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that with me. Do
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It
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was like, it was in 2010 was the compliance date, but I don't have the actual. ‸ order?
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Yeah, what am i have uh this this is what I was referring to earlier. This is the
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um Yeah, here. Well, you'll know what this is.
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what is 11 years come
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original It
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was sometime in 2010, but we don't have the order to prove the date yet.
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because
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yes I
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think I understand what's going on. I just want to ask if that's okay.
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I
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remember Chad. He's a good officer. Well,
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then uh nothing against him, but then if it's non-compliant for 11 years
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straight years. and I'm
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not sure that it has been 11 straight years.
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Okay. because i'm like yeah
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just Just to clarify, I i i said this in the the short part of the form that I could fill out. Honestly, and he's got the notes here uh directly from Chad Buell, so we're uh we're reaching back in history here to to see. um And those aren't my notes. Those are directly from Chad. That's the ink sign.
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on the floor. it was brought for
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a date given by the board for compliance, but I'm assuming it would have been and
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how do you know before that how when the fine
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what I'm saying.
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I don't have that
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Yeah,
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about and didn't show up to uh back in April, I guess, or May 2011, um because I ‸ wasn't made aware of it, it reverted back to the original sighting date, which would have been ‸ calendar year 2009, hence the case number with the 09 designator. the
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that that's that's that's what my understanding ‸ So is it
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your recollection that the date that the code board wanted you to bring the violations into compliance, ‸ do you recall that it you went beyond that date before you fixed it?
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No, my my recollection is, and
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So that would have been the month prior to the the board in question. I was under the impression that
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were all resolved.
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Well, actually, if you look at the notes, um
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And it looked like it looks like everything but protective treatment. ‸ just protective treatment was the only thing that
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which would have then catapulted to the non-compliance hearing in, um in May, based on the paperwork, ‸ but
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the nine. um One of the violations are actually just for like a business tax receipt. So I can actually attest in 2014, nobody was living there. So there was no business tax receipt needed. And he was the only owner and it wasn't being rented. So yeah, I believe
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that particular item was just a misunderstanding.
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treatment? Do you recall when you
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so the way that you see it now with the front facade that painting was actually done in 2017. yeah
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the end of 2016 into the beginning of 2017.
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But but again, that that wasn't the that was the second time I painted it because that was complete. That was part of a completely separate effort. Not not related to this. When did you
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paint it in relation to that?
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that I ‸ had, that he he noted, the the big one circled in red, that what wasn't highlighted as this one's completed, that i that I had completed the touch-up paint that was required at the time.
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And i can I can answer that. In 2014,
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Because one of the violations that we were looking at when the transients were there, he actually fixed some windows and he actually painted in 2014. And then it got messed up again in 2016, and he corrected that violation with touching up the areas of the paint. In 2014, it was the color of the inside of the garage. Correct.
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think this is my personal opinion to the board.
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when my children ‸ down there by you. So it's like there's a lot of things missing in the middle. Well,
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and again, we're dealing with different staff. Staff has no problem with that. I know that old cases seem to run. We used to have a lot of cases
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of that was staff not doing the due diligence of re-inspections. I only know in
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because we had a case. And I dealt with Mr. Wagner and I know he spoke with Scott Davis. So to say it complied in 2020 is not accurate. It would at least be 2014. And I'm not so sure that it wasn't done prior to that either.
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the ‸ evidence isn't even clear that it wasn't done prior to that.
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That's what I'm saying. We don't know that. And then
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that show compliance from that uh 2009 case going forward. So um staff is willing to go with whatever the board decides. Let
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‸ We're
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talking a basic
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‸ Okay.
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How many times was this gentleman notified by receipt mail of violations? I
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can't answer that question because I was not here when that happened. That's why I said what we do now is we do demand letters and we do routine follow-ups. And then every December we go out and look at our fine list to avoid situations like that. I can tell you that that was not done in the past.
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of when somebody came into compliance. It should not be just up to them to call you. um So I don't have anything from the original officer and stuff that shows that they went out or that they sent him notifications. or Like I said, I do a demand letter every December to every fine
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running in the city asking them to come into ‸ compliance and pay the fine, hoping that they'll come into compliance and get a lien reduction. It's all in there. That was never done uh
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I was not aware of this case because it was under a different system um than what they put the cases in now. So I wasn't aware of that. So when I met with him, I couldn't tell him, oh you've got this case from 2009. This all came up when he went to sell the property and a title search was done and the court records were checked.
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Well, let me ask you this.
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If
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we take the fine of about 600 grand and then cut it in half and make it 300 grand or if it just say, look it cover the expenses for a thousand. That sounds like a pretty good deal to me.
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Well, it is. I mean, the expenses are the expenses. So
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why are we arguing about this? I wanted to make a motion, get this cleared up. I'm freezing. it well i think we're just talking about the history as
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well so
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my
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cost sheet takes the documentation we have of chad buell's inspections and officer gonzalez's so my cost sheet is more realistic than the 600 000 fine that's a that's a fictitious number that nobody has any evidence on what it should be I'm freezing. I want to go.
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I'm going to take a motion. You're
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making a motion? Mr.
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Chair, if you let me make the motion, I'm going to go
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for
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it.
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on this
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even more.
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don't
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agree.
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Do you have a discussion? We
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can discuss it. I just i don't agree because i think
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I think that they they did their due diligence
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So this situation has been resolved for the last two to four years. So now they're stepping in and doing their due diligence. I understand that they did their job
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But his his house has been in compliance for the last two to four years.
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So we have a motion. We don't have a second at this time.
[01:52:24] Speaker 8
But somebody else can.
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And just for the record, I think it's actually I mean I can attest that the property has been in compliance since 2014. Because it went from a condemnation.
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being off the
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condemnation list and based on the things he was cited for that would have cured it completely by then. So I think it's a lot more than two to four years. I think we're talking like seven or eight years that it's been in compliance.
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Okay, so we have a motion. Now if we don't have a second. Someone
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else has to make a motion. Motion. I'll go
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second hers. She didn't make a motion. She made a discussion. Okay,
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so we don't have a second so you're open to make a motion.
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No, that's
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fine.
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No, I'm i'm motioning to not. right. You still
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I
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don't want a zero. What is it? A lien? A zero it wants ‸ to. reduction
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Yes.
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lien
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I want his lien to be reduced all the way to zero. That is my motion. is that Am I saying it right? Mr. Wagner's case number zero nine zero four seven three a zero on his lien reduction. Yeah, which is what ‸ which is what he asked for. Yes. Yes. I will
[01:53:50] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
second
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‸ Okay. Now we have another motion on the floor with a second. All in favor say aye.
[01:53:58] Speaker 15 (introduced as “Roger Wayne Collins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Aye.
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‸ Those opposed? Opposed. We have three in favor, one opposed. Motion passes three to one.
[01:54:12] Speaker 11
‸ Thank you.
[01:54:13] Speaker 2
Yes, sir. You have a wonderful evening.
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So it will not go to council then? No. It ends here.
[01:54:20] Speaker 4
Right.
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You're done.
[01:54:20] Speaker 4
We won't go to council. We'll do a release and
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If you reduce it to zero, just think about when you are reducing them, there's still a cost to the city in recording the satisfaction. So sometimes it's a good idea to not totally reduce. This is just a suggestion but to think about the extra cost that the city has to go through to actually release the lien. So maybe, you know,
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what does that
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not sure. Some cities do like a flat fee for for
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it's
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‸ it's going to come out to be about what she said, 50 um because we're recording initial order, um order imposing and then we're releasing and there's charges to the court that comes.
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future. Perfect. Okay. This
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The code enforcement board held
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public hearing on May 16th, 2019, at which time the board found the owner YSM 1001 properties LLC in
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Section 6-1003 b Section 6-1001 d Section 6-1001 g
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the correct said violations therefore consistent with the code enforcement board's order
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lien was recorded against the property effective may 22nd
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from may 22nd 2021 until compliance was achieved on january 13th 2022 Code records show on-site inspections were conducted by Officer Carver and myself. The
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lien be reduced to the city's cost of service. Staff utilized the following factors in making this recommendation to reduce the lien. Whether the current owner owned the property at the time of the violation secured yes. The applicant resides
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property. No,
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13. ‸ number of inspections performed, 16. The length of time the property was in violation, 236 days. Property taxes, there are no outstanding tax bills. Other liens, records show no outstanding liens on the property and no water liens.
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before
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The current market value of the subject property,
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appraiser. staff submits their cost sheet
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recommendation is that the
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staff to prosecute this case. This reduction is based on the gravity of the violations, the length of time it took the property coming in compliance, and the total amount of the city's cost. Per the city code, this is ‸ only recommendation
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city council. The council reduces the amount owed. Payment of the reduced amount is required within 30 days of the of the council's decision, or the lien amount reversed back to its original amount owed, and a subsequent lien reduction request cannot be made for one year period of time. And the property resident representative is here.
[01:59:06] Speaker 2
This is the Arlington Apartments. Yes, sir.
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sorry to tell the truth,
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state your name and address for the record?
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Catherine Crittenden, [address], Melbourne, Florida, 32935.
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we need to pay pay what we need to pay. um It did take us a while to get it ready because we had to do 10 roofs, and it was right at the beginning of COVID. So
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We did everything else. That was what was left.
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so
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and We are staying on top of everything, so ‸ shouldn't ever be an issue again.
[01:59:56] Speaker 2
Just a question, and
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if that was
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to try and get an extension? Well,
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we had come in once and they gave us, I think, 60 days. We yeah i remember originally. Yes, ma'am. And then it turned out to be all of them. I honestly didn't know I could do that. Yes, ma'am. because i thought I mean, I knew that we could come in and get a fee a mean reduction. Because
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I remember
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and then, um
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would have been so much easier and lighter on you guys to, um first talk to them about coming and then come to the board and ask for an extension on it because, um
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Right.
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you're just probably absolutely right. I will say we went through three different code ‸ code officers. He's been amazing. But we had Katie first and then we had, is it Steve?
[02:00:53] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
yeah Yeah, Katie started the case and then Jill was kind of with Katie and then Steve took it over and then, of course, he passed away and, um Augusta has been working at since then.
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But you've been the steady, the steady guy in there. I mean, you've been here since I've been here and I remember this, you know, and that was just my
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have, if I would have realized that was an option. I didn't ask questions. We were just trying to get it done as soon as we could.
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They say ask not want not. Yeah. ‸ I know.
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I've heard that before. I'm really bad about that. you
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you can hear that, take that into account definitely because she has multiple buildings there. And besides roofs, they painted all the buildings. ‸ And then they had to patch parking lots, um and make sure they cured the parking issue and then clean up
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So, um it was extended. Yeah, they've done a good job.
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We had some, we have some students that live in there. oh
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really?
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Yes, ma'am. so Yes, ma'am. uh With that being said, um I'll take a motion.
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uh
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i'll second
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Motion on the floor with the second. All in favor say aye aye aye. Aye. Those opposed? Motion passes unanimously. um
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‸ So
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go to council and I was wrong. The last one will need to go to council just for approval. So if you would let him know
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council will have to agree
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and we'll move forward on it. Okay. Well,
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thank you again, ma'am.
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uh
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okay okay
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it's cold
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um Our next meeting is November 17th. So um with nothing else needs, we need nothing else. uh
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[02:03:20] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · Unclear audio
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[02:03:24] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
oh man. I'm gonna ‸ require
[02:03:28] Speaker 12 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
blankets
[02:03:29] Speaker 6
and
[02:03:29] Speaker 12 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
electric blankets next time.
[02:03:35] Speaker 6
I'll tell you,
[02:03:36] Speaker 6 · Unclear audio
[unclear audio — 0:01]
Flag: a language review questioned the wording · 02:03:36–02:03:37 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording

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