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City Council

City Council Meeting

Date
2025-07-08
Status
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Source
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Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines.)
  • Absences: the minutes print an “ABSENT” heading with no names under it.
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Anthony A. Garganese (City Attorney), Stockton Whitten (City Manager), Lori Chabot (Recording Secretary), Abigail Morgan (Public Works Director), Rebecca Bowman (Finance Director), Charlene Neuterman (Community Services Director), Jonathan Lamm (Fire Chief), Evander Collier IV (Police Chief), Jack Walsh (Utilities Director), Lorne Stinnett (HR Director), Rob Beach (Chief Technology Officer), Megan Crutcher (Helpdesk Support Tech)
  • Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (22)

  • 1. Agenda: Regular Meeting of July 8, 2025. (2025-444) — to approve the Agenda for the Regular Meeting of the City Council held on Tuesday, July 8, 2025, with amendments (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 2
  • 2. Minutes: Regular Meeting of April 22, 2025. (2025-445) — to approve the Minutes from the from the Regular Meeting held on April 22, 2025, as written (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 2
  • to approve the Consent Items with an amendment to move Consent item V.5 to Council Business item VIII.3 (moved by Lavander Hearn, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 3–4
  • 1. Request to Postpone First Reading FCOD Comp Plan Amendment. (2025-384) — to approve Postponing the First Reading of the FCOD Comp Plan Amendment to the September 23, 2025 Regular City Council Meeting (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 3–4; the vote on p. 5
  • 2. Request to Postpone First Reading of Ordinance 02-2025 Creating Four Corners Overlay District. (2025-385) — to approve Postponing the First Reading of Ordinance 02-2025, Creating Four Corners Overlay District, to the September 23, 2025 Regular City Council Meeting (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 5
  • 3. Request to Postpone 2nd Reading of CDBG and HOME funding and the City's Action Plan to July 22, 2025, to preserve the ad. (2025-612) — to approve Postponing the Second Reading of CDBG and HOME funding and the City's Action Plan to July 22, 2025 to preserve the ad (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 5
  • 4. Consideration of Resolution 2025-041 Approving the Cirrus Outparcel Lot Split. (2025- 609) — to approve Resolution 2025-041 Approving the Cirrus Outparcel Lot Split (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 6
  • 5. Conduct a Public Hearing to review the affordable housing real property inventory list and approve a Resolution identifying certain real — to approve a Resolution identifying certain real property within the City to which the City holds fee simple title that is appropriate for permanent affordable housing and approve the process for which the disposal of real property will be administered by the City with an amendment to remove one … (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 7
  • 6. First Reading of Ordinance 04-2025 Alcoholic Beverage Ordinance Amendment. (2025-553) — to take a 15-minute break (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 10
  • 6. First Reading of Ordinance 04-2025 Alcoholic Beverage Ordinance Amendment. (2025-553) — to approve the first Reading of Ordinance 04-2025 Alcoholic Beverage Ordinance Amendment. (2025-553) (City Manager) (moved by Lavander Hearn, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 3-2; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins; nays: Patricia Weeks, Lorraine Koss — the City's minutes, p. 11
  • 7. First Reading of Ordinance 06-2025, Amending the City Code Regarding Code Enforcement Board Jurisdiction and Duties regarding Noise and E — to approve the first Reading of Ordinance 06-2025, Amending the City Code Regarding Code Enforcement Board Jurisdiction and Duties regarding Noise and Excavation Violations, and Code Enforcement Lien Reduction Requests (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 13
  • 1. Consider the Appointment of Margaret Goudelock to Fill One of the Three Vacancies on the Board of Adjustment. (2025-583) — to approve the Appointment of Margaret Goudelock to Fill One of the Three Vacancies on the Board of Adjustment (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 13
  • 2. The applicant, Floor Suppliers Inc. (Shiua Roopnarie), is requesting a reduction of the current Code Enforcement lien of $60,520.00, at t — to approve a reduction of the current Code Enforcement lien of $60,520.00 to $10,000 dollars at the property located at 1050 West King Street (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 4-1; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: Alex Goins — the City's minutes, p. 14 Unresolved conflict in the City's minutes: adopted motions in this meeting state different amounts for 1050 W King St — $10,000 (motion 13; the City's minutes (2236_07_08_2025.pdf, p. 14)); $5,000 (motion 16; the City's minutes (2236_07_08_2025.pdf, p. 16)). Both passages are shown; this site does not choose between them.
  • 3. The applicant (Patricia Ahneman) is requesting a reduction of the current Code i Enforcement lien of $149,945.00 at the property located — to approve a reduction of the current Code Enforcement lien of $149,945.00 at the property located at 1001 N. Indian River Dr. to the amount of zero (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 15
  • 4. The applicant (Deborah Raskett) is requesting a reduction of the current Code Enforcement lien of $5,400.00 at the property located at 49 — to approve a reduction of the current Code Enforcement lien of $5,400.00 at the property located at 49 Parkway St. to the amount of zero (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 15
  • 5. The applicant (Allen Condominium Association) is requesting a reduction of the current Code Enforcement lien of $331,270.00 at the proper — to approve a reduction of the current Code Enforcement lien of $60,520.00, at the property of 1050 West King St. be reduced to the amount of $5,000 (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 16 Unresolved conflict in the City's minutes: adopted motions in this meeting state different amounts for 1050 W King St — $10,000 (motion 13; the City's minutes (2236_07_08_2025.pdf, p. 14)); $5,000 (motion 16; the City's minutes (2236_07_08_2025.pdf, p. 16)). Both passages are shown; this site does not choose between them.
  • 6. Approve an Agreement between the City of Cocoa and the Diamond Square Community Redevelopment Agency to allow the CRA Agency to solicit r — to approve an Agreement between the City of Cocoa and the Diamond Square Community Redevelopment Agency to allow the CRA Agency to solicit redevelopment proposals for properties located on Rosa L. Jones. Authorize the Mayor to execute the Agreement (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 16
  • to approve to authorize the acceptance of a donation consisting of a 2008 Edgewater Power Boat 205CC motor, with an attached Suzuki 250-horsepower 4-stroke motor, with an estimated fair market value of $21,640, along with an accompanying boat trailer valued at $1,055. Approve a Resolution Amending the … (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 17–18
  • 2. Approval of a MOU between the City of Cocoa and Brightline for the Cocoa Multi-modal Passenger Rail Station. (2025-589) — to approve an MOU between the City of Cocoa and Brightline for the Cocoa Multi- modal Passenger Rail Station (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 19–20
  • to approve PZ 25-02800001 Michael C. Blake Subdivision — Lennar Homes Development Agreement for Affordable Housing and Purchase and Sale Agreement (Amended and Restated) (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 19–20
  • to Approve Resolution 2025-043, Establishing the Upper-Level Management Benefits Policy, modifying the benefits available to the positions of Deputy Director, Deputy (Assistant) City Manager, Deputy (Assistant) Fire Chief, Police Commanders and the City Clerk and redefining the Definition of Executive … (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 19–20
  • to adjourn the Regular meeting of July 8, 2025 (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 21–22

Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)

  • $10,000 — Council: decided in an adopted motion. “approve a reduction of the current Code Enforcement lien of $60,520.00 to $10,000 dollars at the property located at 1050 West King Street” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (2236_07_08_2025.pdf, p. 14); fiscal period not recorded) Unresolved conflict in the City's minutes: adopted motions in this meeting state different amounts for 1050 W King St — $10,000 (motion 13; the City's minutes (2236_07_08_2025.pdf, p. 14)); $5,000 (motion 16; the City's minutes (2236_07_08_2025.pdf, p. 16)). Both passages are shown; this site does not choose between them.
  • $5,000 — Council: decided in an adopted motion. “approve a reduction of the current Code Enforcement lien of $60,520.00, at the property of 1050 West King St. be reduced to the amount of $5,000” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (2236_07_08_2025.pdf, p. 16); fiscal period not recorded) Unresolved conflict in the City's minutes: adopted motions in this meeting state different amounts for 1050 W King St — $10,000 (motion 13; the City's minutes (2236_07_08_2025.pdf, p. 14)); $5,000 (motion 16; the City's minutes (2236_07_08_2025.pdf, p. 16)). Both passages are shown; this site does not choose between them.
  • $21,640 — Council: decided in an adopted motion. “approve to authorize the acceptance of a donation consisting of a 2008 Edgewater Power Boat 205CC motor, with an attached Suzuki 250-horsepower 4-stroke motor, with an estimated fair market value of $21,640, along with an accompanying boat trailer valued at $1,055.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (2236_07_08_2025.pdf, pp. 17–18); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $1,055 — Council: decided in an adopted motion. “approve to authorize the acceptance of a donation consisting of a 2008 Edgewater Power Boat 205CC motor, with an attached Suzuki 250-horsepower 4-stroke motor, with an estimated fair market value of $21,640, along with an accompanying boat trailer valued at $1,055.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (2236_07_08_2025.pdf, pp. 17–18); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $60,520.00 — Council: the amount an adopted motion changed FROM (not the amount decided). “approve a reduction of the current Code Enforcement lien of $60,520.00 to $10,000 dollars at the property located at 1050 West King Street” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (2236_07_08_2025.pdf, p. 14); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $149,945.00 — Council: the amount an adopted motion changed FROM (not the amount decided). “approve a reduction of the current Code Enforcement lien of $149,945.00 at the property located at 1001 N. Indian River Dr. to the amount of zero” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (2236_07_08_2025.pdf, p. 15); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $5,400.00 — Council: the amount an adopted motion changed FROM (not the amount decided). “approve a reduction of the current Code Enforcement lien of $5,400.00 at the property located at 49 Parkway St. to the amount of zero” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (2236_07_08_2025.pdf, p. 15); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $60,520.00 — Council: the amount an adopted motion changed FROM (not the amount decided). “approve a reduction of the current Code Enforcement lien of $60,520.00, at the property of 1050 West King St. be reduced to the amount of $5,000” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (2236_07_08_2025.pdf, p. 16); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $331,270.00 — Council: listed on the agenda item (a proposal as listed, not an approval). “The applicant (Allen Condominium Association) is requesting a reduction of the current Code Enforcement lien of $331,270.00 at the property of 1723 Dixon Blvd., be reduced to the amount of the City's cost.” (not adopted as listed: the adopted motion states a different amount or scope; the City's minutes (2236_07_08_2025.pdf, p. 16); fiscal period not recorded)

Agenda (the City's wording)

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I. Opening Matters

  • 1. Call to Order
  • 2. Invocation
  • 3. Pledge of Allegiance
  • 4. Roll Call

II. Approval of Agenda and Minutes

  • 1. Agenda: Regular Meeting of July 8, 2025.
  • 2. Minutes: Regular Meeting of April 22, 2025.

III. Awards and Presentations

IV. Delegations

V. Consent Agenda

  • 1. Approve a Task Order Amendment in the amount of $11,300 for the additional work approved through Amendment #1 of Grant 24PLN48.
  • 2. Approve the Reimbursement of UpStart Cocoa Expenses prior to executing agreements and Revision of Trekalla's Approved Budget
  • 3. Acknowledge the emergency purchase, PO# 83583 and 83579, for the costs to repair and replace the blowers at the Sellers water treatment plant as well as approve BAF 25-068-T to move funds to cover the rental of a temporary blower to ensure no disruption to productivity while repairs are made.
  • 4. Approval of a street closure outside the CBD
  • 5. PZ 25-02800001 Michael C. Blake Subdivision – Lennar Homes Development Agreement for Affordable Housing and Purchase and Sale Agreement (Amended and Restated)
  • 6. Approve entering into a Locally Funded Agreement (LFA) with the Florida Department of Transportation (FDOT) for Design for Widening of State Road 524 (FPM 437983-1-32). Approve a Resolution Amending the FY25 Budget, BAF 25-073-A for the LFA. Authorize the City Manager to Execute and Administer the LFA Agreement.
  • 7. Approve modification to the Fiske & Broadmoor Roadway and Drainage Improvements construction contract with Cathcart Construction Company to partially release retainage early.
  • 8. Approve, as recommended, the proposed Fiscal Year 2026 benefit renewal medical, dental, life, and disability insurance; and to authorize the City Manager to sign related agreements.
  • 9. Request approval of the revised FY 2025 Pay Plan.
  • 10. Approve the Purchase of a Heavy Duty Mohawk 4-Post Drive-on Vehicle Lift with Accessory using Sourcewell Contract #121223-MRL. Approve a Resolution Amending the FY25 Budget, BAF#25-057-IFT, for the amount of $63,608.
  • 11. Approve the Danus Utilities, Inc. Proposals for Lift Station Rehabilitation Services Utilizing the City of Clermont Agreement No. 2023-71 Effective August 8, 2023 through August 7, 2026; To Authorize a Budgeted Expenditure for these Services not to Exceed $325,541
  • 12. Approve the Purchase with Hydra Service, Inc., Debary, Florida for the Systematic Replacement of Lift Station Pumps, Project No. WS1141, Utilizing the Orange County Contract No. Y21-170-MV effective August 1, 2021 through July 31, 2024, Renewed through July 31, 2025; and To Authorize a Budgeted Expenditure for these Services not to Exceed $143,136
  • 13. To Approve a Purchase Order and Agreement with Hamilton Roofing, LLC for a new roof system on Wewahootee WG, Dyal WTP Admin Building, and Dyal WTP Dewatering Building; piggybacking a Brevard County Continuing Roofing Contracting Services contract, RFQ 6-22-13, Effective May 12, 2023 through May 12, 2026; To Approve a Resolution Authorizing the City Manager to Approve and Execute Change Orders in an Amount Not to Exceed $28,555.50 (10% of the Contract Amount) for a Total Combined Project Cost of $314,110.50.

VI. Public Hearings

  • 1. Request to Postpone First Reading FCOD Comp Plan Amendment
  • 2. Request to Postpone First Reading of Ordinance 02-2025 Creating Four Corners Overlay District. — 00:26:18
  • 3. Request to Postpone 2nd Reading of CDBG and HOME funding and the City's Action Plan to July 22, 2025, to preserve the ad. — 00:28:20
  • 4. Consideration of Resolution 2025-041 Approving the Cirrus Outparcel Lot Split — 00:29:24
  • 5. Conduct a Public Hearing to review the affordable housing real property inventory list and approve a Resolution identifying certain real property within the City to which the City holds fee simple title that is appropriate for permanent affordable housing and approve the process for which the disposal of real property will be administered by the City. — 00:37:27
  • 6. First Reading of Ordinance 04-2025 Alcoholic Beverage Ordinance Amendment
  • 7. First Reading of Ordinance 06-2025, Amending the City Code Regarding Code Enforcement Board Jurisdiction and Duties regarding Noise and Excavation Violations, and Code Enforcement Lien Reduction Requests. — 02:26:58

VII. Council Business

  • 1. Consider the Appointment of Margaret Goudelock to Fill One of the Three Vacancies on the Board of Adjustment. — 02:47:05
  • 2. The applicant, Floor Suppliers Inc. (Shiua Roopnarie), is requesting a reduction of the current Code Enforcement lien of $60,520.00, at the property of 1050 West King St. be reduced to the amount of $10,000. — 02:47:27
  • 3. The applicant (Patricia Ahneman) is requesting a reduction of the current Code Enforcement lien of $149,945.00 at the property located at 1001 N. Indian River Dr. be reduced to the amount of zero. — 02:57:35
  • 4. The applicant (Deborah Raskett) is requesting a reduction of the current Code Enforcement lien of $5,400.00 at the property located at 49 Parkway St. be reduced to the amount of zero. — 03:01:57
  • 5. The applicant (Allen Condominium Association) is requesting a reduction of the current Code Enforcement lien of $331,270.00 at the property of 1723 Dixon Blvd., be reduced to the amount of the City's cost. — 03:05:23
  • 6. Approve an Agreement between the City of Cocoa and the Diamond Square Community Redevelopment Agency to allow the CRA Agency to solicit redevelopment proposals for properties located on Rosa L. Jones. Authorize the Mayor to execute the Agreement. — 03:11:31
  • 7. Museum Discussion

VIII. City Business

  • 1. Council approval is requested to authorize the acceptance of a donation consisting of a 2008 Edgewater Power Boat 205CC motor, with an attached Suzuki 250-horsepower 4-stroke motor, with an estimated fair market value of $21,640, along with an accompanying boat trailer valued at $1,055. Approve a Resolution Amending the FY25 Budget, BAF# 25-071-A. — 03:54:24
  • 2. Approval of a MOU between the City of Cocoa and Brightline for the Cocoa Multi-modal Passenger Rail Station. — 03:56:00

IX. Informational Agenda

  • 1. Bi-Weekly Report for June 5, 2025-July 2, 2025.

X. Reports

XI. Adjournment

XII. Notice to the Public

Transcript Partial transcript

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Stone Street, Cocoa, Florida. Would everyone please stand for invocation, please ma'am, please sir.
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If everyone would please join me in prayer. Dear Heavenly Father, I'd like to come to you at this moment and give thanks for allowing everyone to arrive here safely this evening. I'd like to ask that you continue to watch over us as a city, watch over our youth that's in attendance tonight. I'd like to ask
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that
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you continue to watch over our neighbors over in Texas, as well as our men and women fighting for us in uniform. I'd like to
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that you give us a sound mind that we only make the best decisions here tonight on behalf of the citizens of Cocoa. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.
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Amen.
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Please remain standing as they do their school oath, their school pledge.
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commitment to achievement and service. I pledge to
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make
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healthy choices personally and socially because I respect myself as the people in my environment. My choice reflects my character.
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my living. This is my choice and my pledge.
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Amen. All right, let's give our youth a round of applause.
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You may now be seated. I thank you very much.
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would you be kind enough to do roll call for us, please, ma'am?
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Yes, sir. Mayor Blake. Present, ma'am. Deputy Mayor Weeks. Here. Council Member Goins.
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Council Member Hearn.
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Here. And City Manager Whitten.
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Thank you. Thank you very much. This concludes item number
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the 8th, 2025. I would like to amend the agenda, please, ma'am, please, sir, to add on two items. Under City Business, under the ‸ consent
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item number three. Under City Business, item number four. We have this resolution stated here at your desk, which talks about organizational effectiveness, establishing the upper level management. And I need a second to that for me, please, ma'am. Second. Please, sir.
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We have a second on the floor by Deputy Mayor Weeks.
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nays? Ayes have it unanimously. Okay.
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Okay.
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What are the wishes of council? Motion approved. Got a motion
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Okay. Second by Deputy Mayor Weeks.
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Ayes have it unanimously. Proceeding on to item number three. It's not written there, but it's written there. We have an honorary member that will be introduced.
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Thank
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you, Mr. Mayor.
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yes, sir. It's my distinct honor and pleasure to
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Chief Moore has more than 35 years of experience in the fire service. He comes with a plethora of knowledge and experience working his way up through the chain of command over throughout his career. We're very excited to have Chief Moore on board with
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And I look forward to what he brings, not only for our organization, but also his community as a whole.
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All right, sir. Well, let's give ‸ Chief Moore an
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honor.
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Thank y'all for that.
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stand at the podium there, young man. Stand at the podium. I just want to be first to say that's one fine haircut you have there, sir. Thank you.
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Thank you. Look, I took it from you.
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Thank you. Welcome to Team
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sir. Thank you. Thank you, Chief Lamb. Yes, sir. All right, man. I guess I'm going through that change in life.
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we have a resounding, heartfelt, rightfully deserved, rightfully earned, where you never give up on your fellow human being. Because it comes back sometimes,
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And I believe in that. That's biblical.
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much is given, much is required. So under Delegations, first on the list will be Mrs. Lacey Bussey.
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Would you come to the podium, ma'am? Take your time.
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All right. Well,
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not going to take up your time, but good evening, Mayor and City Council members and
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My name is Lacey Bussey, and I have the honor of serving as the secretary
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And
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I'm thrilled to stand before you
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grade.
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This is a tremendous milestone that reflects years of hard work,
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This achievement is a direct result of the dedication shown by teachers, staff, and administration. Their tireless efforts, their passion for education, and belief in our scholars have helped us reach this important benchmark today. We could not be more proud. But this is only the beginning. We are setting our sights even higher.
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Even higher. Yes. We are continuing to raise expectations to grow stronger
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Lastly, I would like to express our deepest gratitude to the City Council. Your ongoing support,
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in our growth and success. And for that, we thank you for walking alongside us in this journey. And together, we are building something powerful for the future and for our community.
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I have a light that is on Mrs. Bussey. I think you may want to tiptoe back through the tulip. Come to the podium. Councilman
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when he puts his light on first, I know there may be something pulling a rabbit out of his
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Would you come back? Councilman
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the floor is yours, sir.
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When I had to make the choice to decide what school when my child was going to attend, number one, it was kind of easy because the school
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Academy is just not a school for scholars it ‸ is a family right and so I trust all the men and women inside of that institution I consider every male and extended father of my child. And so for me to say that, that's my my son, that's my boy, that's my that's my road dog. And so for me to trust anyone that's so precious to me should say a lot about that institution. And so again, congratulations job well done but you know we're not done and so and I know I know mr. Cole and all the teachers gonna keep pushing all of the scholars to even go higher I appreciate it as a parent I appreciate a lot more now as a parent because
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because I know if you go to any other
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sometimes they have too many kids in the classroom, things of that nature. So a lot of the scholars that are there, they need to be in a school such as in Majula Charter Academy so again congratulations much appreciated and if my son need to go to
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So, all right, but appreciate y'all. Thank you.
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thank you all right next will be Nehemiah Pierce president come on up mr. president long live the president
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good evening city council members my name is Nehemiah Pierce
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I know as a scholar standpoint that this school has been doing great things from our algebra one scores and from our science scores also I know the school will continue to do great things as we have done in the past we continue to level up from coming to a C school from a B school and I like to thank the educators the family members and our principal mr. Cole for all the things he has done for us so thank you guys
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is
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challenging to stand behind that podium puts me in the frame mind of when
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but you prove you persevered and you prevailed and that's right yeah I hear you over there councilman
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get your speech right or they had
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switch to help you get your speech right but either way you got it right so kudos that speaks volumes because two things that come to my mind when I think of you all
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but when you really break down the word and what
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you do it is
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it says I'm what possible and you've indicated that you've shared that because
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and when you have a good name it is far greater than any other riches you know you know you
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loving favor rather than silver and gold good name so the thing why I'm saying that is
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a blessing on Blake ‸ starts with you all
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to eighth graders and beyond and I'm saying thank thank you because we know when you do bad you get that publicity out of this world
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‸ we want to acknowledge that ‸ make sure that you understand everything is tight and all right. So thank you very much. Let's give them a round of applause. And card number three, it all starts with leadership. You know, we talk about big ships, little ships, but nothing like relationship, sponsorship, scholarship, leadership. and that I would like to bring forth the fierce leader along with the entire staff and wife of course Thomas Cole let's bring him up please ma'am please sir with a round of applause
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thank you thank you
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picture of I did have a picture ‸ that I said I thought was that
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start off with that this is a picture taken in June of 2012 we had just got our charter application approved and the mayor called us to the stage in June of 2012 at Juneteenth to be able to announce to the world that we're going to be
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no one knew us at that particular time until our mayor who's standing in the background of that picture back there in 2012 that's me standing there that's my two boys our first enrollments at Emma Jewel Charter Academy in 2012 I think it is very very important for us as we continue to get old and grow and learn that we remember the foundation it's important to remember the foundation from the standpoint of the city
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that we had not recruited teachers. On that day that we had not included any students. but we had a mayor we had a city we had a whole community that stood behind us on that particular day and when I was standing on that particular stage there in 2012 all I had was a dream to offer at that particular time a dream and an opportunity at that time we all know how difficult it can be sometimes as parents when we're choosing the right school a person of middle or upper class if you are not happy with a traditional public school you can pay for a private school but a lot of people in our community cannot pay for a private school that's why we have Emma Jewel Charter Academy right there
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school cost our goal is to provide all of our parents with a choice and a voice as far as what happened with their children it has been a very long long trip for us for a while we started out with a struggle and our mayor our city council
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everybody has
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been behind us since day one even though even during those dreaded F days when we first got out the box and we were graded as an F
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And
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council with the help of our police
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because there's so much that goes on behind the scenes that we would never ever ever see
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us because of the people that's been in front of us fighting us for us and during that first year I still remember Mr. Mayor you may not remember it we did not have enough money for those flashing lights out there.
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to say, wherever you got to find the money for, you need to find that particular money. and I hope I'm not putting out too much of your business but I'm gonna ‸ put you on the spot a little bit there was also a portion of when we were first starting the national school lunch program would not fund you for the first three months until they see that you know what you're doing
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for the first three months
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first two years in the amount of $14,000 and that is a record
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so when it comes time to celebrating I want to celebrate not just with these great people my board chairman with our staff but also the great city officials that are still behind us for all those 12 years to get us to that point for that beat thank you so much and I love you all thank you thank
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yes ma'am you're right
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there's one thing I would like to say just two and then I'm gonna ‸ sit take a load off my feet and put it in the seat first thing I would like to say to whom much is given much is required and you all are fulfilling that dream the American dream because you're part of history
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and we're saying
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are part of this dream we call American dream and the last thing I would like to say is this continue to defy them ‸ because they do not define you you define you so continue to defy all those haters out there because when you define yourself and it's done decently in order, it's blessings like days like we're gonna ‸ celebrate today, tomorrow, and the immediate future. Amen? so thank you all members of Emma Jewel and the city of Coco and the staff I want to say thank you all for keeping this dream alive
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amen all
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right thank you very much again let's give principal
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next on the list let's
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and everyone and anyone that participates in this okay
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we get there, if I don't have one, I'll... I'm still unclear
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don't know
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which item
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this is. Okay.
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Proceeding on to item number five, which is the consent agenda item. What are the wishes of
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council?
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We got a motion on the floor by Councilman Hearn. Second.
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Chair's going to call the question. All in favor by saying aye. Aye. Aye.
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Proceeding under item number six, public hearing, as you all are clearly aware of, and I will do things decent and in order, the first three items request to
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Mr. City Manager, sir.
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This is just a postponement. I don't know how much we have to read into the record. Okay. All right. I just want to see if there's... I think Lucy and the City Attorney will have it.
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Well, staff comes to request to postpone the first reading for a consideration of an expedited state review
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comprehensive
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plan,
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for future land use categories to include the commercial parkway CP zoning district within the four corners overlay district as an applicable zoning district in the
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use future land use designation. So, we respectfully come to request that the City Council will postpone and continue this item to the City Council meeting ‸ scheduled for September 23rd at 6 p.m. Okay.
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Thank you very much, Ms. Hiberto. Ms. Lucy. Anything, Mr. City Attorney, sir? Nope. Okay.
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this portion to counsel and over to the public. Please come forward. You can only expound on about pertaining to the postponement of this first reading.
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Chair, I'd
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to close this portion to the public and return
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of
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the council. What are the wishes of
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council
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Move to approve. Move to
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prove
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Our
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second ‸ light is on.
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Yeah. I just had a quick question.
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to it? Because this is very important. Is this a document, the changes, are we going to have access to this beforehand? Before the usual.
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get it out as soon as we can.
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Okay. Okay.
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So, you
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will schedule
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briefings?
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we can do that and we'll try to get it out in advance of the Thursday deadline.
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Thank you.
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We have a motion on the floor in a second. Okay.
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There was a motion by, I think, by ‸ Deputy Mayor Weeks.
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it by me?
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It was by you.
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Okay. Just checking your reflexes, man. Y'all are everyone
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looking at their cards, y'all. Just checking. You all passed the test.
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All in favor, I say aye.
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Aye.
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Any nays? Ayes have it unanimously. Proceeding on to item number two, request to
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Okay. We can hear from you, Mr. City Attorney, and then hear from you, Ms. Lucy.
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Ma'am,
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I'm just reversing
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orders just for a moment.
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Oh, same as the previous item, staff's requesting that this item be postponed to the regular city council meeting September 23rd at 6 p.m.
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Okay. Thank you very much, sir.
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Lucy, ma'am.
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to address the first reading of consideration of a land development code tax amendment, appendix A, article 11, code of
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section 23, four corners overlay district, establishing permitted special exceptions, and prohibited uses, providing for performance standards, including setbacks, parking, landscaping, and signage requirements, establishing building design standards, establishing the boundaries of the four corners overlay district. Thank
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you very much,
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Lucy. All right. Do we have any questions? Just pertaining to the postponing of this. Saying none, chair electing to close this portion. To
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to the public, please come forward and state your name and your concerns. You have 180 seconds to elaborate on this particular item. Going once, going twice.
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What are the wishes of
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to approve. Second. Okay. We have a motion on the floor by Deputy Mayor Weeks and a second by Councilman Hearns. Chair's going to call up a question. All in favor saying aye. Aye. Aye. Any nays?
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have it unanimously. Proceeding on to item number three.
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Okay. Seeing none,
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will open it to the floor of the public.
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To
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this particular item 6-3, CDBG and home funding. Going once. Going twice.
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to the public and
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What are the wishes of
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Move to approve the postponement. Okay. We have a motion on the floor by Deputy Mayor Weeks.
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Second.
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going to call
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question. All in favor by saying aye. Aye. Any nays? Ayes have it unanimously.
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2025-041, approving the Cyrus out
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excuse me, out parcel lot split.
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located at the northeast corner of State Road 524 east of Industry Road into two separate legal lots of record.
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This property is
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plan unit development, better known as PUD, which includes the recently completed apartments, 280 units, multifamily residential. Yours truly. The floor ‸ is yours, ma'am.
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Thank you. Good evening. The applicant WMG Acquisitions LLC is representing the property owner Coco Retail LLC and is legally represented in this matter by attorney ‸ Jessica Gown and planning and titleable manager Katrin Smith. The applicant WMG Acquisitions has submitted a lot split application for review and approval. The request seeks to divide a commercially designated lot in two separate parcels. The parcel in question represents
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which is governed by a development agreement approved by
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That agreement outlines two phases. Phase 1, a completed 13.4 acre multifamily residential development consisting of 280 units.
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commercial use.
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lot may request to divide the lot into an additional
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subject to council approval by resolution. This application meets all, the application we have received meets all the required criteria under the code and includes complete supporting documentation, including surveys, ownership authorizations, and verification of consistent with the original plat. In addition to the lot split application, I would like to highlight that the applicant also has submitted a formal request for a statutory extension of time to submit final development plans for Phase 2. So the applicant is required to do a PUD amendment to follow through with the project. As a specified in the development agreement,
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was originally required to be submitted within 48 months of the agreement's effective date, setting a deadline for the past March 15, 2025.
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Mending chapter 18 subdivisions and created a process for the lot split application. So this is the first time that planning zoning is bringing a lot split resolution for approval.
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Okay. Do we have any questions for Ms. Lucy?
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the city attorney?
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Yeah, ‸ I just, um, my understanding, this seems like it's just a, gives the owner more flexibility for the uses.
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mean, is there any downside for the city?
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no.
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No. Well,
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the PUD ‸ amendment. So they still have to submit an application and
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OK. But it's really just a matter of flexibility for them.
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Yes, that's correct. So under our subdivision code, they allowed to do the lot split one time. So if they decide, as I'm going to show, to subdivide again, then they'll have to go through a flat process.
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OK. OK, thanks.
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CVS and the McDonald's. And so how big are the, by splitting this, how big of buildings are they going to put on there? Do we know what's going to go in there?
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that was submitted to us for review. So the intent is to have a dental office and a quick serve restaurant. OK.
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I don't know if it's readable there for each. OK,
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thank you. Because the people are asking me, you know, when are we going to get more restaurants out there?
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So.
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Yeah. So, just I'd like to highlight that the, approximately the first lot, it'll be parcel one,
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And then the second portion would be the,
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then probably in the future, they're looking to subdivide. But the, the applicant would have to go through a devil, a development agreement amendment in order to, for the council to approve, another subdivision and also to approve the, the conceptual plan that is being proposed. And also do the PUD amendment.
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staff respectfully recommends that the city council,
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providing for the division of one, originally platted lots owned by Coco Retail LLC, generally located at the intersection of state road 524, and in East industry road,
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into two lots designated as new lot one in new lot two,
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so the vision of the city of Coco code of ordinances. The applicant, I'm sorry, sir. I just, the applicant is here. If you have any questions.
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If you have any questions for them. Ready?
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sir.
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Yes, sir. Okay. Do we, do we have any questions for them before I open it to the public? I mean, I like the project. I'm in favor of it. So I'm just trying to go through the preliminaries,
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everything decent and in order. Any questions?
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Chair would like to close this portion of council over to the public.
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Please come forward and state your name concerning this particular item number
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Very important. Going once, going twice.
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to close this portion to the public and return it to council. What are the wishes of council? Move to approve.
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I say it.
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I'll let you go. Did you get that motion
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Clerk? Thank you
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Motion by Deputy
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in favor,
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aye.
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very much.
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Conduct a public hearing to review the affordable housing real property inventory list and approve a resolution identifying certain real property within the city
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housing and approve the process for ‸ which the disposal of real property will be administered by the city. We're following a program that we established. Now, I would like to turn it over to Mrs.
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Ma'am.
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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. uh Tonight, you're going to be uh approving uh through resolution, resolution 2025-040, uh the resolution that adopts the property inventory list and identifies that real property within the city of which the city holds fee simple title appropriate for permanent affordable housing. uh
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packet. So, per florida statute section 166.0451 it provides that on october 1 of 2023 and every three years thereafter, each municipality shall prepare that inventory list of real property within its jurisdiction and of which the municipality holds that fee simple title appropriate for affordable housing. So, we must include the address and the legal description of each property and following the public hearing, the governing body of the municipality shall adopt the resolution that includes the inventory list of each property that is subject for permanent affordable housing. So, as a process for this uh disposal of the properties uh the city is going to adopt an RFP that is going to have a process for which uh developers can apply for and propose to develop those uh vacant lots. uh
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Myers and several other cities in the state who have successful programs that are using this similar process, which is an RFP. um it provides with specific uh ground rules for the developers must have a track record of a proven track record of building affordable housing and
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going through that process. So we'll be conducting that uh through an RFP process of which we will bring those to council uh for approval after we have selected the uh the candidates who are capable of uh building on those lots. On this list, you will see the Michael C. Blake subdivision. Of course, tonight uh you are approving the amended and restated agreement for that development. This stays, those lots stay on the uh vacant parcel list until they are conveyed over. um So once that uh sale has taken taken taken place, then those those lots will come off. You will also see the lot of 203 Orange Street, which uh we talked about last night at the
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of which we will be putting out an RFP for disposal of that property as well. And and so in the in the near uh next few months, you will start to see those RFPs go out for the disposal of that property. So tonight we're asking for you to approve the affordable housing list through resolution and and allow for the staff to move forward with the process to dispose of the real property administered by the city. Thank you. Thank
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you. ‸ excuse me. Do we have any questions for
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So I wish I had seen this earlier so I could have discussed it with the city manager before, but I see now that
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and it kind of borders the
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Hills, which is in desperate need of a neighborhood park. That is a
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Is there any possibility of hanging on to that property for the purpose of creating a neighborhood park?
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As a part of this resolution, it is the council's authority to determine what uh properties stay on the list um through that resolution, but I would, I would defer to the city manager for any uh questions because I'm not familiar with that property being for a park. So I had not been made aware of that.
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‸ And I also noticed that there's one on
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Court, but I am familiar with that lot.
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think it would just be a little, it's not very central, whereas the Cambridge address, trying
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was trying to bring this up on a map.
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think it's just a more likely location for a potential park. That is 1204 Cambridge Drive. And that is in the Pine Ridge neighborhood, which uh you know borders up to
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have a park.
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Is this something that we can discuss at the budgeting meeting, Mr. City Manager?
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if you're going to approve the resolution, the listing of properties here, you
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take those off, or or you can bring those back at a at a different time there. but But again, these are, we have to do this annually. These are ready to go, um especially the
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um affordable housing versus parks. uh It's it's a it's a policy call on your part. uh
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Yes, so i I would like to make a motion to approve with that amendment that the 1204 Cambridge
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kept off this list just for the time being until we can determine if that would be an appropriate spot and if we can come up with a plan to finally fulfill my dream of creating a park in that park desert. So
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I'll second your motion on that um to just remove Cambridge out of ‸ Yes. Just for now.
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uh The motion is to um
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And we have a second by Deputy Mayor Weeks. chair is going to call the question all in favor by saying aye.
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Aye. Mr. Mayor, this is ‸ I know, I know, I know it's a
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public. Yeah, yeah, thank you. Okay. You're right. Thank you. uh We have a motion
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floor and a second. I ‸ have to open it up to the public. You're right. I just caught it. Thank you. and And then I'll close ‸ it and then we'll vote on. ‸ Okay.
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Deputy Mayor Weeks.
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I'm so sorry. No harm, no foul. Okay.
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Do we have any other questions for
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this portion to the public. I mean, council and return it
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you can come forward and elaborate on this
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real property inventory list. Anyone would like to come forward and discuss this item?
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the public and return it to council. We have a motion
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Mayor Weeks.
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uh clarification. So we're just pulling this address address at the moment for discussion at a later date about the address, which is community input,
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saying aye. Aye. Any nays? No. But it's gonna ‸ come back anyhow,
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I will say nay just to balance it out just a little bit because I do want to discuss this a little bit more and the reasons why I would like to
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some additional comments. All
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I do have two cards. um We're doing a first reading on
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there's a lot of information that's been disseminated throughout this city. and and And a couple of things. We're going to establish a definition for establishing alcohol usage. There's a definition stating to relating to the alcohol beverage regulation, adding a definition for alcohol beverages as an accessory. Also, a definition for a bar. There's no desire to have public consumption of alcohol in the public in a brown paper bag. Now they're going to give you some detailed definitions to clear up all misconceptions that's been spread throughout this community. So now you get the opportunity to get it straight from the horse's mouth. Now, Mr. City Manager, I do see your light on, sir. um And I know it's under your leadership. um And also, I'll just let you read in this city initiated amendment to the city codes ordered ordinance appendix a zoning article 5. uh
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and then I will hear from the city attorney.
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Yeah, thank you, Mr. Mayor. And just to to further illustrate your point that this has been branded the bring your own bottle ordinance.
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think of that, ‸ you think of folks walking around the city with brown paper bags of their their alcohol or beer of choice uh just drinking on the streets there. This is uh in part a clarification of uh bottle clubs. ‸ the example, and I'm sure Jen will give you the example is painting with a twist. Painting with a twist allows you to bring a bottle of wine as you partake in their main services. This clarifies the that they would need a state license to be classified as a bottle club.
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or restaurant with your own bottle of ‸ liquor put it on the table and ask for a glass. So so it is it is not that but i'll I'll let them get into the into the ordinance. I just wanted to make that clarification because that's been put out there and this is certainly not that.
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Okay, is that it mr City Manager Sir, for the time being city attorney, then you're next Mrs. Webster. Okay, I'll
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read I'll read the ordinance in by title.
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This
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is ordinance number 04-2025 an ordinance of the city
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imposing separation requirements for liquor stores and package stores from certain other uses imposing separation requirements between location for on premises consumption of alcoholic alcohol and public parks and playgrounds. ‸ updating the zoning ordinance to be consistent with the state law regarding separation requirements between schools and locations or on-premise consumption of alcohol amending the method of measuring separation for purposes of alcoholic beverage regulations amending certain definitions to clarify the application of the
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beverage regulations,
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amending the list of permitted and special exception uses in the general commercial district,
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and resolutions, ‸ incorporation into the code severability and
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is first reading, also a public hearing item. Just to just generally before Jen gets into the details, if you recall, the city council requested that the ordinance be drafted with respect to adding distance requirements from ‸ certain alcoholic beverage establishments
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This ordinance does the
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does does that, but
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additional revisions were made to update um definitions. um There were also some provisions added to supplement to clarify um alcohol as an accessory use um ‸ to certain types of um establishments, which the mint which the manager hinted, um talked about briefly. um In addition, it also uh updated uh provisions in the alcoholic beverage ordinance related to state law requirements and um also clarified um how separation uh distances will be measured under the city code. um Further, um ‸ a table was created so it would would be easy to determine um the different um distance requirements uh from established uh licensed premises and other types of uses under under the code. ‸ so there's obviously more specific detail uh but this is following up with council direction ‸ updating the code pursuant to state law and making clarifications to definitions that are in this code that have been in there for many many years and also addressing um the issue of um excess certain establishments allowing an alcoholic beverage um um in a um
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so um jen has a lot of detail ‸ yes
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thank you so much and good evening uh council members and uh i'm jen webster city city planner here at the city and uh as
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have stated, we are covering a lot, getting a lot accomplished in this ordinance. This is the
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little bit more on the history of the ordinance. In December of of last year, city council gave notice for staff, notice to proceed to amend the zoning ordinance to
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requirements from public or private elementary schools, middle schools, or secondary schools and locations for on-premises consumption of alcohol.
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for distancing requirements of 500 feet from public schools and private schools to basically bars. And then we're going, and they also requested us to review
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between liquor stores and package stores and schools, churches, parks, and playgrounds and residential zones. And also to impose a 300 foot separation distance distance between locations for on-premise consumption of alcohol for parks and playgrounds. uh Also to amend the method of measuring separation distances under Appendix A, Article 13, Section 20.
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or business tax receipts or approve applications for building permits, development orders, or other land use permits within the city, which would conflict with a pending amendments. So, um ‸ so the, the amendment, language is here, which, uh city council has already read and basically summarizing that it, uh results in, excuse me, it results in, revisions ‸ to
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of our zoning ordinance. And so just to start real quick with the definitions, the definition of a package store was amended to be consistent with state law specifically regarding sealed original containers and that alcohol must account for at least 51 of the sales. The definition of package store beer and wine was also amended similarly, but limiting the sales to beer and wine. the definition of convenience store was amended primarily to differentiate liquor stores from
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which are not subject to separation requirements.
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then the definition for ‸ bar has also been uh uh
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clarifying and further defining the the definition for
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So that definition in the Florida statutes for a bottle club is a commercial establishment operated for a profit, whether or not a profit is actually made, wherein patrons consume alcoholic beverages which are brought onto the premises and not sold or supplied to the patrons by the establishment, whether the patrons bring in and maintain custody of their own alcoholic beverages or surrender custody to the establishment for dispensing on the premises and which is specifically located in a building or other enclosed permanent structure.
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be eligible for a bottle club license.
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been in the city's definition of a bar and has always been subject to the same special exception and distancing requirements where it's applicable. And so for the next definition, um there's been an increase in popularity of establishments wishing to to serve alcohol as a complement to another services uh such as beauty salon uh such
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those that allow patrons to bring their own alcoholic beverages as a complement to the establishes primary activity, such as an arts and crafts workshop. So this code amendment includes the addition of a definition for establishment with alcohol as an accessory use. So we created this to capture this category and to establish uh regulations for it. So an establishment with alcohol as an accessory use won't have distancing requirements will not require a special exception. However, they must provide an affidavit saying that alcohol is not their primary business and that no revenue is derived from the sale directly. um
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applicable um uh regulations in the zoning ordinance. And they still must meet all um department of business and professional regulation licensing uh for their particular business. And also just um just to note and and point out that an establishment with an with alcohol as an accessory use and also a bar bottle club are not synonymous with open container. so So creating this definition for establishment with alcohol as an accessory use is still requiring the business to contain that use within the business. And
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code language for that in Chapter 4, Section 4-5, Drinking on Streets and Public Areas.
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possess an open container of alcoholic beverages, including but ‸ not limited to beer and wine, on or upon any street, sidewalk, or parking area open to the public
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small change um was in Article 11, Section 12 in uh the general commercial category. There's a little bit of a discrepancy uh there. And as we stated before, liquor store and package store are synonymous and bar and lounge are all synonymous to each other. So this amendment eliminates that existing conflict in the in this district language. And so um moving on in Section 20, uh we modified some language with regard to restaurants, uh reducing the number of seats and adding a definition for a commercial kitchen. So we have reduced the number of seats to be required to be a restaurant from 40 to 20 seats. um We are requiring a restaurant to contain a commercial kitchen to prepare and serve meals. And we've created a definition for that commercial kitchen. And this revision, it was prompted by frequent inquiries from local business owners to the PNZ division, seeking clarification on what qualifies as a kitchen for the purpose of distinguishing a restaurant and
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distinguishing that from a bar or lounge, which requires approval through a special exception. Additionally, the section has been revised to clarify that per Florida statute, Chapter 509, a restaurant
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and non-alcoholic beverages.
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the existing code basically says, or basically requires, as it is, as it states now, that there's a 300 foot separation from bars to uh to schools, churches and residential zones. So what we're proposing is to add parks and playgrounds to that uh distancing requirement and then we're adding the establishment of an off-premises consumption which is a liquor store package store in the grouping of establishments that would require um minimum distancing of 300 feet.
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um being in compliant with the Florida statutes uh requiring that uh that schools in particular to bars be separated by 500 feet and not 300 feet. So we are changing that to be consistent with Florida statutes.
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is this um a separation measurement table which now includes the new um establishment types
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parks and playgrounds and liquor stores or package stores. um And
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read the kind of just the basic ‸ measurement requirement or the measurement method. So churches will be measured from building to building, public parks and playgrounds will be measured from property line to building, residential zone from the zone boundary which is the property line to the building, and then the school property line to the building. And then um and the um
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300 foot requirement from building to building. But you can see overall in general that most of the measure method of measurement is from the property line to the building which creates results in ‸ overall increased separation in the community from alcoholic beverage establishments. And staff was asked, we were also tasked with determining the need and the justification for these changes and the relationship of the amendment to the objectives of the code and the comprehensive plan. uh Also uh part of our analysis was determined if any of these code revisions were going to create any over restrictive or non-conforming conditions. So when we looked at uh the the addition of the parks and playgrounds. uh ‸ And you can see on the on the graphic here is a map uh showing all the parks uh and playgrounds in the city with the 300 foot buffer. And in in this exercise, we
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non-conforming uh situations or or businesses that were created from this um this new addition to the code. And then with regard to the alcoholic beverages with on-premises consumption in schools, so basically bars to schools with a 500 foot offset per florida for Florida statute, um
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bar located at 238 Peach Street, and this is due to the business being less than 500 feet from a school. And um this for non-conforming uses, they will they will be continued permitted to continue
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and subject to the provisions of Article 10 regarding non-conformities. And then
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a type of alcoholic beverage establishment requiring these separations, uh 300 feet from parks, schools, playgrounds, churches, and residential zones, this does create one new non-conforming use, a liquor store located ‸ 1105 Clear Lake Road, and this is due to its less than 300 foot proximity to a residential zone boundary. And again, it will be permitted to continue so long as it remains otherwise lawful and subject to the provisions of our Article 10 online conformities And so staff has determined that with the addition of parks and playgrounds to the to these list of community uses, from which bars and package stores have location distancing requirements,
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and the addition of package stores as a type of alcoholic beverage establishment that has distancing requirements, the city feels uh we're taking steps necessary to address public health and safety concerns associated with the potential over concentration of liquor stores and other alcoholic beverage establishments in the city. And then just in in the staff finding in response to ‸ the justification justification and need for the change in the zoning code, the determination is that regulating the location of liquor store package stores is in the best interest of the community, necessary to protect vulnerable populations, particularly youth and families. The proposed amendment also updates key definitions and establishes a more price methodology for measuring separation distances, thereby improving clarity for enforcement and consistency with the city's land use regulations. And then also we um we reviewed and analyzed the consistency with our comprehensive plan um
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to protect public public health, safety, welfare, and appearance. For neighborhood protection by ensuring that additional growth and development will be respectful of established neighborhoods that define much of the city's character.
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continuing to support uh that revitalization of Diamond Square, Heart of Cocoa, and other areas, concentrating on issues such as crime, economic development, and affordable housing. And then by considering the topography facilities and services and other factors being consistent with sound planning principles, um which promotes public safety and welfare through planning and regulations.
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the ordinance are consistent with um these elements of the comprehensive plan. And so staff requests uh the city council approve this ordinance 04 2025 amending the zoning ordinance of the city of Cocoa relating to the regulation of alcoholic
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for purposes of alcoholic beverage regulations. Amending certain definitions to clarify the application of the alcoholic beverage regulations. Modifying the regulations pertaining to alcoholic beverage sales as an accessory use. And amending the list of permitted and special exception uses in the general commercial CG district relating to alcoholic beverages thank you
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thank you very much
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and a point of clarification establishing that definition I think it's very important that we do comprehend its fullest intention and its initiative to define excessive accessory. Do we have any questions for mrs. Webster deputy mayor weeks and then councilman
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and if you have a cell phone please secure your cell phone sirs and ma'am
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shut it off do you know how
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yes ma'am you go to your general. Your sounds. ‸ They take care of it. under sounds. I know okay yeah thank you no no
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quite all right
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it's more for general discussion amongst us so I'm trying to figure that out
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okay
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I understand that this does not obviously pertain to the central business district we're gonna
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well not necessarily two different codes but within the code it it does say and I apologize for not pointing that out or reminding that that in this central business district, that there are no distancing requirements. However, there's still there's still bars and package doors will still be subject to special exceptions. Okay.
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But again, it's giving us two areas.
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we develop now me personally I don't drink
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but I'm concerned about this ordinance and how it may stifle development in all the
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morality. We learned that in, back in prohibition days. and so so I my concern is that this is over regulating this this industry and I know that we have, some people who have bought property, which is going to come up, that we're told that they could put, and that's the only thing they could put there
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after they've spent all that money and I don't think that that's right either as a city to do that so I have a lot of problems with this, not the definitions. That's fine. It's good to make the definitions but I don't like that we have that I think it's just too onerous with the way the distance and all of that is, is set I have a real problem with it ‸ mr.
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mayor if I if I could Jen how many how many districts do we have in Cocoa Village and then how many sub districts
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we well if we have the waterfront overlay district generally and then I believe
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within Cocoa village there. So, so, so again, this is not, creating different codes there. Again, you have districts and sub districts that have different requirements already in the code. state law has changed with regards to the distance from from barn lounges and schools and churches
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schools there and so and so you're gonna have to
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have to meet that. that That's changed. So that'll that'll change the distance requirements there and then for the property on 520 and Fisk that's not the only thing that they can be.
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they under the zoning code, and under the land use, they can be other things. Their business decision was to go get the liquor license there. But again, that was their own personal business decision. But they do, under the code, they can be other things
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from what I understand the property when they bought it 7-eleven has told them that's the only thing that they
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do with there and I guess
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to speak to it but that is the only thing that they can put there. and
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all this time. Again,
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yeah I've heard Wawa had some some some competition requirements there
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it was something else there. But again, the, the, the, they still have to work up to the zoning code and the future land use in terms of what they can be within the city, regardless of what, what any particular business prefers that they be, or, are the private matter of, what a business is holding them to be but but again I I hear that
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a few things I know with this within the city limits of Cocoa there's a not a lot of, buildings to choose from, for many different styles of businesses. Right.
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morality
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be,
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not saying that this is or isn't but I just I have an issue with this particular ordinance um because it could limit some businesses um ‸ unfortunately or fortunately I I definitely drink alcohol right
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like I read through in this scene, like it's all a bad thing. Everything is is um looked at um from a negative standpoint as well but but when I some some individuals will look at it from the optics and and say you know in the village or other places you can do this or that with no issue but yeah I am three streets over Same thing we deal with with some of the regulations with food trucks on this street and that. And so um
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middle on this um
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um and today included so I feel for him but
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I do I like I told him before I think he jumped the gun
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um
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So can we talk about the door to door distance? um There are some schools that's probably going to end up coming to
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they may have to only choose plazas for example say if they inside of a plaza that has uh nine or
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units. um And you say door, door to, building to building, they're not included. ‸ If you're a standalone school. all right So, so, well he just kind of clarified it from only you might could say that
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so Jen if you're in a if you're if you're a bar in a strip mall like for instance
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talk about the distance requirements there or the
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the, those types of situations where a liquor store uh package store would be within a shopping center that is um at least 20,000 square feet then they would be exempt from any sort of distancing requirements or special exception. So, so that would be fine. That would be no problem.
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so so if say say for example um because I like looking at it on case by case basis that's just my
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but you have some situation where it may um a a liquor store package store is on
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is totally on the other street, may not even face this particular business doesn't really um prohibit that particular church um unless they drive by it. but I just I just don't like all the regulation on it in my opinion um but I I do think it's consistent with what we did with the um not the hookah what was it the the
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point out to you sir because because again remember that was a
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whatever those are
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yeah I I I agree with that but that particular building is directly across the street. Totally different from what my my point was. If
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but that church is on totally on another block away that's
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when the church members come out just like Zion Orthodox and the current building that's there now when they come out of there, they see a sign that had a... a some cigarette or whatever it was that was on the sign. But
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um was turned the opposite way, houses were behind it, and totally separate from that particular building. So a a business would not be able to open based on that 500 feet, even though they do not cross paths. You know, that's... Me knowing that we don't have a lot of product that bothers me on ‸ the business side of it, where it prohibits um those style of businesses. So that's just my opinion.
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Thank you. Thank you. for for that input. but And just but just to clarify that the 500 feet only applies to between schools and bars. All of the other distancing is 300 feet
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for for that particular type of business okay
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that is sir
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I have concern any kind of package to me close to a church right my church pure point blank I don't care about the business I'm sorry that's
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conservative side of
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or a school because once you're young you're going to have that influence and I don't care if it's facing you or or to the back of you my church prime example Metropolitan Missionary Baptist Church you know what's on the corner 520. ‸ Highways. Yes sir and you doggone right and what those jokers do they go into that store and here I am my church faces that building the side of the building the front part of that building, there's a side door that faces uh
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trying to maintain their building. And it's not feasible to have that type of business or again any alcohol if I walk across the street King Street
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I'm sorry
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or close proximity to a church
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on it and that's what I believe in
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I'm sorry for those that do have a business I apologize there's nothing I can do about it but I'm not in favor of association of alcohol either by a church or either by a school okay or parks.
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thank you for clarifying the thing about the the liquor store being in the shopping center. So that explains the 524 shopping center and my knowledge we just have that liquor store and the one on Clear Lake and
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there is the the wine lady which is the beer and wine package store, but they are there
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yeah
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together in the village
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distancing requirements.
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Kind of a boutique that's, yeah. Right. so this gentleman, this is his only business though is liquor stores I mean that's why he's opening a liquor store because he's not opening another kind of store because that's what he does right and was it wasn't I don't know is he here I mean it okay because I think he was over he was in the shopping center and I believe sold that when he had the idea to create this other liquor store you ‸ have to say I I
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lot
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well I did want to if I may just just to point out and just let council know that we, staff, wanted to make sure that that our our analysis was based on due diligence
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our research. And and in in the ordinance itself, there are some citations made and backup information as to the the the the effect of the alcoholic beverage establishments on like vulnerable neighborhoods. And for instance, neighborhoods with a higher density of liquor stores have higher numbers of childhood accidents, assaults, and child abuses. And this is all based on research gathered. they be Liquor stores become places where social controls are weaker, increasing the likelihood of criminal and nuisance activities in the surrounding areas. A high density of liquor stores is linked to higher levels of crime and violence according to the CDC regulating the number of places in a given area where alcohol may be legally sold is an effective way to prevent excessive alcohol use and the CDC also recommend the use of regular regulatory authorities such as this type of licensing and zoning restrictions, to limit the outlet density due to the positive association between outlet density and excessive alcohol consumption and related items. so in particular to we want to make sure we back this up and
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and also in our wanting to be consistent with a comprehensive plan. Right.
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So neighborhood protection would be
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socioeconomic okay well because I certainly have lived in neighborhoods
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have a liquor store within the vicinity and
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that but well I'm interested to hear what the public has to say and what the representative has to say of course thank
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forgot to mention the as far as the the one that they're wanting to do
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what's the difference of putting, allowing them to do a
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then
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and, the other thing is when the train station comes, they're wanting to do all kinds of development around there. And
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there will be somebody's gonna ‸ want to put a bar over by the train station and you've got probably apartments or multifamily stuff close by. We're we're
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hurting ourselves by doing that by I think we're hurting ourselves by this the strength the amount of what is in this. If we kept it to the churches, which it you know is state code, we have to do that, or
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And if we did that, you know, it to me it makes more sense I just
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in my opinion and again I don't drink I hate alcohol but but I feel like it's just something that down the road, especially because you've got that whole area that's all going to get developed and it's gonna ‸ hurt us. So that's ‸ I'm gonna ‸ say I'm interested to hear the public as well
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council going you like I
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just had a question back to the distance again so church, church and school is together, right? If a church is a school, the church has a combination.
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Yeah. If the church and school were a combination
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the same, like, it'll be, the
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school take the president who
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would take precedence. Yes. So
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this First
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they do yeah
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and then there's a
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right
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as we consider the Brightline development that will probably be more of restaurants bars ‸ but if it were a liquor store we would probably be a part of some mixed-use development, ie a strip mall type development there. So so so again, and the the the the chart is on the screen, so we can refer back to that. And so so again,
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So so 500 feet of schools, churches, again so we we have it on there again our the Crayton and the Cava I think that was last year that we actually put in, you guys actually put in that distance prohibition. And so this is this is a very similar to ‸ that. We can talk about, historically, the issues surrounding provost park again I think we all are well well aware of those but again this was brought back at the direction of council and so I'll reserve further comments mr. mayor
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all right sir
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‸ yes I just I would like to remind the council what I believe I think everyone came on this board with the mindset of restoring property
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could remember certain elements in certain areas of this city especially I can I used to work at the fire station well the uh fire station right on 520 and uh this Boulevard and I could tell you some of the elements that it took the city a lot of work to get rid of in that location. We're talking about enhancing that location and other areas of the city especially in my district I think we can do better in regards
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what we want here in the city as far as businesses I welcome you know anybody that's in the liquor business I welcome out we have plenty of other locations I
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if not I mean we have our neighbors to the south of us Rockledge
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than we have you know so I would recommend looking that way but I'm trying to keep the property values rising here and in uh and making it an inviting place and that's my stance on it
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I know we got to open this up to the public yes ‸ I
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mean we can
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make a motion I'll discuss it I'll make a motion to approve with discussion well I'll make a motion to approve staff
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recommendation
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staff recommendation
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but we'll give the public
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the opportunity
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to speak. Okay. Is that it, sir? ‸ Okay, thank you very much. Do we have any other questions for staff before I open it to
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I do have two cards I do have two cards
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also then I have uh at greenwood okay
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Please come forward and state your name and
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sir. uh
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address is
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the owners of property located
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uh uh Deputy Mayor Weeks referred to and Councilmember uh
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our site is on the southwest corner of uh West King and fist it's the site of the former convenience store that has um with gas um it's located immediately to the west across fist from the existing Wawa that's there um according to the
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buffer analysis map on the agenda ‸ package, our site appears to be within the 300 foot radius buffer of a church, school, park, and uh residential zoning. So we kind of hit the
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there of the of the uh buffer requirements. um Our client acquired and had planned to redevelop the site as a packer packaged liquor store with no on-site consumption. So important to note that there's no on-site consumption there. um in May of 2023 our client obtained a zoning verification letter um confirming the consistency of a retail liquor store um uh on the subject property from the city uh in the property zone CG general commercial with a future land use designation of commercial. So they did obtain that prior to um acquisition of the site. um Our client, uh uh upon making uh various... uh uh They acquired the property in uh
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verification letter um upon making various site improvements our client filed an application for a business
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so that was last year December 13th um that was prior to the city's announcement of the approved legislative intent of the ordinance on
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‸ receipt until January
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denying its application for a business tax receipt based upon the legislative intent that was approved by the board
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um but it obviously hadn't approved the ordinance by that date you're here now considering the ordinance. um the And and our our client had made certain improvements on the site, had begun making certain improvements on ‸ the site with the idea of um of uh putting the property to that use. um
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essential moratorium on the new package service facilities pending the outcome of this ordinance, um it has a detrimental, it has had a detrimental effect on our client's ability to develop the property in a way that was consistent with the code when the property was purchased and when they applied for the BTR. um ‸ Again, the property is located um on a central commercial thoroughfare and I am out of time can
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very long. um ‸ we believe the site is appropriately cited for this use.
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health, safety, and welfare of the community. Our client believes that the application of the ordinance, however, um to package liquor stores really doesn't serve that intent. Because the sale of packaged liquor is no different than any other retail sale. It's not for on-site consumption. So the application of the buffer requirement to a particular site selling
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liquor really doesn't have any effect as it does to on-site consumption.
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And that's consistent with the Florida statutes and and the sections that have been cited, uh 562 45 um So clearly, that makes sense. But as Deputy Mayor Weeks pointed out, there's a Wawa across the street. So someone could go into the Wawa and purchase a can of beer
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a cooler, already cooled, if they want to purchase liquor right across the street. It makes no sense to apply the buffer to our site when a convenience store doesn't have the buffer applied to them.
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property as far as uh the convenience store use, that deed restriction was put into place in the deed that was purchased. So they can't develop this site as a convenience store by way of the deed. But if they did, they could still sell beer and wine there
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at the Wawa. So it really doesn't serve the intent to apply the buffer to ‸ package liquor stores
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burdensome excessive unduly oppressive as to
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commercial use of retail sale And so we're asking that the council either deny the ordinance as it's written, remove package stores from the distance requirements, from the buffer requirements,
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And we would just ask that that the council take that into consideration, and we appreciate your time. Thank you
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calls. You don't get that person knocking at your door. At three o'clock in the morning. I do. On multiple occasions. A lot of these council members don't get it. Because
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That's the problem that I have. So you can talk the talk, but do you walk over that way. I'm trying to stay calm because I know what it's like, sir. And I deal with it daily. So let me calm my demeanor. But they don't have to deal with it like I do.
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convenience store. What other restrictions were there? I mean, what is the only thing that he can do with that
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other things with it that are permissible in in the commercial general, the CG zoning classification. He cannot do a liquor... yeah I mean, I'm sorry. He cannot do a convenience store as it was prior... as it was previously utilized.
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that's the that's the restriction that's on him Okay.
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you for your patience i keep hearing the comparison uh to a wawa um
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missing something here. um That's what I'm struggling at with that.
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property group, of the people in the streets, and now the board. The staff has done a wonderful job. that It's a very hard job of what they've done. But there's one thing that we need ‸ to bring out in the open. We haven't had to have this ordinance for 45 years that I've been in business. And um I really feel that because it's so
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that either postpone it and have more input to go into it, because there's already some other, another couple of issues that could make it go bad. And uh there are two commercial property group people that had told me to state something publicly. But, um
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uh One of them uh was Mac Osborne. uh And he said, heck yeah, you can use my name. He said, heck yeah, you just let them know, because I had explained to them what this was ‸ being proposed. And he said, not just no, hell no. Word from word
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Mac. There's also another person that's in business and been here for almost 40 some odd year
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people. They also don't want it. One of them also allowed me to mention her name. But as a gentleman, I'd rather tell you privately rather than publicly.
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it never was
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This was a ‸ bring your own bottle kind of club idea. That's not the point. The point is the free open
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You bring your own bottle. That's the point. There's liability involved.
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I'll give you an example.
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And this is a good example. The downtown area does not, and you all know this, is not happy with food trucks being located there, except for big events.
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The people at the Arts and
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Place can ask for this license and do exactly what the ordinance is wanting
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there's another property, uh commercial property group member that did some homework in reference to
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they want to bring it up, ‸ fine. But um this has already been tried and tested in Melbourne. And I'm going to let that commercial property group owner uh bring that up. But this is something that I think needs to be delayed and looked further into it. No one in the commercial property group that I've been able to speak to is happy with this idea because it takes away tips from waiters and waitresses, just like the food trucks. Takes away the tips, takes away selling food, which is why we don't want food trucks there. I mean, tips, the liability. This is like, this is a
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uh Time out. State me that law you just stated was that statute.
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That was a, that was a particular type of license. That was a, that was an alcohol license. That's a license that allows them to serve, is that the bottle liquor
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for free. Is
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that the
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bottle club license? No, this, uh they have a license for a bottle club and that's called
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for the. What?
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for on-premises consumption.
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‸ Exactly. Yeah. And so, and so the food trucks wouldn't be able, I don't believe, to get that license. No,
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know how it takes away from anybody's tips there, because I'm going to go back to the example of painting with a twist. ‸ That currently has a bottle club license. You correct me if I'm wrong, Jen. they currently have a bottle club license issued, uh by the state as, as a part of the, their core business, uh
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wine. So there were no tips to be had.
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at at uh uh ‸ at painting with a twist there. You cannot bring your own bottle, glass of wine to the bar. And as I said before, and ask for a glass. I mean, you just it's just not what this is. um
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you walk around with your own bottle when you go into a bar. and And they're going to allow you to actually just simply, again, serve yourself from what you uh what
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um And so I don't know where the confusion comes in because, again, the best example is uh ‸ painting with a twist. ‸ again, there may be some hair salons around here that actually allow you to bring in a bottle of wine. They may actually offer you a glass of wine that's
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uh to the, uh I guess it's not called a haircut at the uh hair salon, but whatever whatever services are there. so So that,
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and so, and so, so I think it's five, five, the other five. That's four. there Sorry,
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they require of a business like painting with a twist right now. Painting with a twist has that license if the, if the city code mirrors that, uh uh requirement, we're not, we're not giving you a second license on top of what the state would give you. I think what we're merely saying is, is that because the state is issuing this license because it's ancillary to your core, uh uh business, uh that you don't, we're not requiring you to, to go through the special exception process. Because again,
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there. You're, you're, you're, you're some other type of business that has ancillary to your core business line of business, the ability for your customers to bring in, again, a bottle of wine or to be served, not for sale, a glass of wine. And I think that's as clear as I can make it, Mr. Mayor.
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But what I'd like to add to that, am I able to speak? ‸ The way the restaurant business, when you go in there and you have a ‸ bring your own bottle kind of setup, they don't need to buy any liquor in the restaurant where they're eating. That's how it hurts their tips and the sales of restaurants, just like the food trucks.
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missing something because. Maybe I am. you you
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cannot walk into a restaurant with your own bottle. Well, actually, some some upscale restaurants, you actually
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it is.
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Yeah. Yeah. So, but but but but this is not changing the city's code to say that uh you can bring in your own bottle of liquor at the bar. um ‸ because again, that, that.
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but restaurants and bars don't allow you to do that sort of thing.
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And it still won't be. It still won't be. Okay. My last point is the distance. The
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construction, you measure from property line to property line. This measurement is done by building to building, which reduces the distance. That's the part I don't like. awesome um But that was it. That's all the points.
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right. Now I will let. Hold tight, ma'am. ‸ Have a seat, please.
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but his last comment. um
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distancing, yes. so So the code uh prior to this ordinance, the way the code is written uh regarding distancing, that uh it regard as far as schools, churches, uh that the measurement is taken from building line to building line. But if it's a residential zone to uh
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to the building, which is the alcohol beverage establishment. So it currently is, in most cases, building to building. so what we're doing So what we're doing is, um with the introduction of parks and playgrounds, that will be measured from the property line. And then you have the residential zones already being measured from the property line. And then the schools, uh with regard to the state statute, requires it to be measured from the property line. So so we are we are adding, uh just by adding those categories, we're adding the method of measurement from the property line. But we're also preserving uh some of the existing situations where you would measure to the building. So it just in an effort to try not to be so over restrictive Because the the original direction from City Council back in December was to overall, uh across the board, measure from property line to property line. But when we did that when we did that analysis and exercise, we discovered how restrictive it really was. And we we felt that uh that it was better to retain some of the original method of measurement from building to building
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i.e there would have been more non-conforming
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So, so, so, so, so, we were actually cognizant of, uh putting people out of business if they became, if they, if they no longer existed in the current line of business there. So, so again, um and go back to the chart, Jen. The chart gives the different different types of measurements. but we, we did make a conscious effort to actually do the analysis of under which method, what would become non-conforming.
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a motion to take a
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came to mind. Now, we have
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to the school, and it's more than 300 feet?
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So, so the the factors that make that particular property non-conforming are particularly, uh first and foremost, the uh adjacency to the park, which is behind the ‸ property. um So, because they are adjacent to it, and so, with the
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the entire site. Right,
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but what about ‸ the school?
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The school across the street? Yes, so,
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we're still less than the 300 feet.
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fact ‸ By several factors. Right. Okay. So, I mean, I am concerned about protecting the park. um
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but I'm,
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I'm still really concerned about the restrictions, and how they'll affect our future development.
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Yeah, but, see y'all okay okay Yes, ma'am. No, I respect that. No, ma'am. I'm gonna close my mouth, and I'm gonna ‸ entertain a motion to take a recess break,
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I will give you the opportunity to follow up. ‸ Move to recess. Let's take a 15 minute recess break. All in favor say aye.
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Aye. Aye.
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‸ Second the motion. ‸ Motion was made by Deputy Mayor Weeks.
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favors say aye. Aye. I would like to just say thank you very much, council members, for your patience and audience, for your patience as well, and staff for your patience.
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I know some of the information has been convoluted. Oh, you can hear me? Well, I can hear you.
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but I will entertain your concerns. I have two
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cards right now as it stands.
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One of the cards is from Jennifer Moulton.
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the Village Mayor,
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Ms. Moulton, come forward, please.
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Good evening, board. Good evening.
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evening. Good evening,
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ladies
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and gentlemen. Of
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I would like to reiterate Mayor Blake's sincere concern.
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My last time contacting Mr.
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was May 25th, a Sunday, about a disturbing sight I had not seen. And I don't need to see that ever again.
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corner. But I want to ‸ let it be known that what Mr. Blake is saying is real. We've worked so hard to clean that area up. And if you've not lived that reality, I pray you do then. I sincerely pray you reap what you sow. ‸ You live that if you're going to do that to my community. Please don't. Just please remember that I am, yeah, I'm one of the ones contacting. And driving by seeing disgusting things that I don't even need to see. Please is what I'm saying. Thank you.
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I was just going to say, reading this, whether we pass this or not, we have to do the, of course, the state statute, meet the state statute, but that liquor store is not going to qualify over there based on just the
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Just being this close to a school. Isn't that right?
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So, so just,
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and a lot of, um, especially with regard to the measurement and the different types of measuring. So the 500 feet, the Florida state statute requirement for the 500 feet is specifically from schools to bars. So establishments of on site consumption.
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well, one of, one of the many things, but with regard to package stores is adding packaged and liquor stores to the grouping of alcoholic beverage establishments that should require distancing from other types of properties. And ‸ that measurement distance is to be 300 feet. And that is to be measured from building to building. Uh, if it's a school, it would be building to building. If it's a park, it would be, you know, property line to building,
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instance.
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So then it would be okay. Okay. Thank
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you.
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Yes. ‸ Right. Please. Madam. ‸ Thank you, ma'am. Ms. Pam.
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Good evening, Mr. Mayor, council, staff members. Thank you very much for bringing this to everyone's attention.
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Please state your name.
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in Cocoa Village. Uh, I have a question. So, last night, I'm going to use this as an example.
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in the village, had her big anniversary party.
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Are you now saying that that requires a bottle club permit?
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the establishment. What's the- She's an
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art gallery and she was doing her 15 year anniversary. So she was serving champagne. So now does that, now we have to go get a bottle club permit to share, to serve champagne.
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I'm sorry, uh.
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No one's going back to a slide so we can give you a visual aid.
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coming out. Right.
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on something then not well rehearsed at. That's all I'm just saying.
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power.
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So-
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course of business. That was a one time event.
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Yes, sir.
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And so, and so again, if you look at the state definition, which this, this ordinance would adopt the state's definition, it's up on the screen. I think this contemplates that that's a normal part of your business.
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a one off.
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state and get a bottle club license for that.
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was.
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Okay. So then here's this bottle club
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as, um, Alex pointed out earlier, ‸ 45 years. We didn't need it. I'm confused as to why now we need it. I don't have a problem with everything else on the statute, but the bottle club is just too many questions. I really think I would ask that you table it and let's have some more discussion on it because here's my other concern. So if I have a business in the village and right now I serve food and let's say I want to become, I want to serve alcohol, but I don't want to go through the practice and the policies and the ordinances to get that permit for alcohol, but I can go get a bottle club.
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in their establishment. So my liability insurance is a lot less as a bottle club or if I'm a, or if I'm a serving this alcohol or beer or wine. Okay.
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I'm going here and I realize I ran out of time.
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Okay. Thank you, mayor. Thank you. The other thing is, is we've had a couple of incidences that have occurred before council and the board of adjustment. I'm not calling out any business at this point that were refused because of where it sat for various reasons. What prevents them now from going out and getting a bottle club permit? And now that establishment will be reopened. Yes, ma'am. So,
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yeah, I can provide answers to
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Thank you.
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first of all, going back to the business that had the grand opening or had a champagne event or whatever.
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be any money exchange. It's a private event where the proprietor is offering as, as a gift. There, there's no money exchanging hands unless there was an event fee.
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there, there wasn't any profit made from the provision of the alcohol. The, that, that would not be a bottle club situation.
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food establishment. Um, yes, um, I guess what I'm trying to say is that if it was a food establishment, of course, all of these businesses are still going to be subject to the state licensing for food preparation for restaurants, for seating, for all the different types of alcohol, um, licenses.
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interest to allow their patrons to come bring their own alcohol.
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they could be selling it themselves and making money for it. So, so I think that would be an unlikely, an unlikely situation. And I don't know if they would be allowed by the state to even do that, uh, because, um, and Mr. Greenwood, you brought up, uh, the example of the SFS license. So first, first and foremost, in order to have that license, you would have to be considered a restaurant. So, so that first and foremost, and yeah,
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just decide. I want to serve alcohol.
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definition of the bottle club is one that where it would have to take place and in a building or enclosed permanent structure. So a business that had an open air environment or an open patio, primarily, they would not be able to get a bottle club license.
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If you look at the note that's at the bottom of the slide, it's always been in the city's code. It's been in, in, it's been synonymous with a bar. And so again, I'm going to use painting with a twist. And so why would you take painting with a twist through a special exception for a bar with the distancing requirements when that's not their line of business? They are a painting with a twist business and they, and they, and they allow, uh, you to bring
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there.
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so that, that was the, that was the, uh, uh, what we were trying to clarify and sort of stripping out and saying, okay, bottle club is just consistent with whatever state statute says it is.
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So they don't need a bottle club permit, correct? Because
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they, they have one. The state said that they, they already have one. Oh, they
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already got one. Okay. But if somebody else wanted to do it, I'll just another little art studio. We do these things in the village all the time, you know, and as long as we are not making money off of it and we're offering as a free entity for a charitable event or non charitable event, then the bottle club doesn't apply. Correct.
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It's per this definition. I think, I think Jen did a good job on, on, uh,
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We're all tired. Thank you for that. And thank you for the clarification. Okay. Thank you.
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Okay. That was my last card. Are there any more additional cards in the audience?
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just wanted to make one point cause we're, you know, I know members of the public are talking about licensing with the state. So the city does, as everyone knows, does not license alcoholic beverages. So to the extent that,
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any future business wants to allow alcohol on the premises, it would behoove those, that property owner or business, right. To check with the state about the licensing requirements. The city regulates zoning. Okay. So not, not the licensing of alcoholic beverages. So
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may be saying about licensing requirements with the state that that's outside of the city's jurisdiction. Need to need to refer to the state about whether or not you need a bottle club license, whether or not you need a special events
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state jurisdiction.
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Thank you for the point of clarification, sir. Do we have any other questions before I close this portion to the public and return it to council?
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to close this portion to the public and return ‸ to the council.
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chair to approve staff recommendation. She was gonna call. Call the question. Go ahead, sir.
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ahead.
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The question that I had was why was it so important to add in residential?
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Playground for sure. Why was residential important?
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So the residential is not a new addition to the code. It's always been in the code that that there's a separation requirement from a residential zone. So that's existing.
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because he opened up Pandora's box. Go ahead, councilwoman calls. Turn your light off. Take a ‸ manager.
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your light on, sir.
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How did that get, because it's right next to a residential area? Yeah.
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Right.
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it's because we added the use
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the liquor store.
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in the category of establishments requiring distancing, it's right next to the residential zone. So it becomes subject to that.
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But you said residential area.
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It has. It has. But liquor store, package store has not always been one of the categories, which it now is.
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category has always been bars.
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‸ Yeah, up to this point,
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think my question was just answered.
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All right. Are we good, you all? All minds are set. All right, okay. All right, we have a motion
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All in favor, by saying aye. Aye. Any nays?
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Nay. Aye.
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So we will come back with the second reading at our next council meeting or whenever staff prepares it for us. Item number seven. First reading of ordinance 062025. Amending the city code regarding code enforcement board jurisdiction and duties regarding noise and excavation violation and code enforcement lien reduction requests. ‸ Now the intent of this, as you will see, has multiple current code and draft ordinance established. It's a form of streamlining the process.
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this,
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us, he may have could or should have resolved it prior to getting to us unless they would like to appeal it and then it will come back to us. And the reason why I'm saying that you'll see how ‸ under this draft ordinance is the council decision required only if the applicant does not accept the administrative reduction approved by the city manager.
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Noise complaint and excavation files can be
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Okay, Mr. City manager, sir.
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that needs to be read in. I know I need to hear from you, Mr. City attorney as well. Go ahead, Mr. City manager. And I know Mrs. They're going to
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lead you through it there. I think, I think the best thing for us to do when we, when we, when we take you through the overview is to just take you through the agenda because we've laid it out pretty well in the agenda.
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thing.
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Okay. Um, this is ordinance first reading also, um, public
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um,
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six article two division one of the city code regarding the powers and jurisdiction of the code enforcement board amending chapters 12.5. And 13.5 of the city code regarding enforcement and penalties for mining and excavation operations and noise disturbances providing for a procedure for entering into code enforcement compliance agreements,
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making additional housekeeping amendments in compliance with chapter 162 Florida statutes providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions and corporations
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And again, this is first reading, um, at least start off the discussion at a very high level. Um, first and foremost, the city's code enforcement board has the authority to consider certain violations of the city code. Um, and that is their limited jurisdiction to hear
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This ordinance proposes to amend the code enforcement boards jurisdiction to hear code violations to include chapter 12.5 regarding mining operations. Um,
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Um, and chapter 23 vehicles for hire. So again, if this ordinance passes, um, the code enforcement officers would be able to, um, prepare notices of violations for violate for code violations of those, um, three additional chapters of the city code. And those notices of
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would be able to be presented to the code enforcement board for adjudication. So that's, that's one of the main, um, key points to this particular ordinance. And as the title says, there's some cleanup, um, of the, some of the language in the code, um, just, um, to bring it into compliance or just enumerate provisions that are in the Florida statute. Another key, uh, element of this ordinance is to create a new code enforcement, uh, section regarding compliance agreements. Um, ‸ under this provision, if it were to pass code enforcement officers, when, um, handling a code enforcement case with a violator, um, would be able to present a compliance agreement to the city manager for consideration. Where the violator, um, admits ‸ to the violation, but, um, has, um, terms and conditions in the agreement to bring the property into compliance without having to go through, um, the code enforcement process. Um,
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the ordinance.
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um, the, um, the violation in accordance with the agreement, of course, then the matter would be presented to the code enforcement board. So that's, that's one key aspect. Another key aspect of this, um, of this ordinance would amend the code enforcement lien reduction process to streamline the process, um, by first eliminating the step of having to go to the code
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enforcement board every single time there's a lien reduction application to have a recommendation to the city council.
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lien reduction process that lays out, um, you know, the ability for, um, the city manager, um, to, um, enter into this lien or accept a lien reduction. In accordance with a standard lien calculation that's proposed in the ordinance.
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someone would apply for a lien reduction request. Um, ‸ they would have to file
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the same old application, but there would be a lien reduction calculation. Um,
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staff would be required,
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um, an administrative reduction table that would afford, um, the manager, the ability to, um, reduce the lien based on the reduction table and the calculations that are in this ordinance. So that's a very high level. I'm sure the council may have some questions about, about that calculation, but we can talk about that in a second, but that's the other key element, um, to this, um, to this, um, ordinance. And on that
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on that administrative reduction,
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once the calculation is made in accordance with the code, that calculation, the adjusted lien reduction amount based on the calculation gets presented to the applicant. If they agree, um, to that reduced amount, then they can pay the, the, the reduced amount within 30 days. And then the manager has the authority to release the lien. If they don't agree to the standard calculation, then the matter of just like we have been dealing with for years would come to the city council. And then you would apply the, you know, all the factors and consider, you know, that, that calculation as well. And then the council would ultimately have, you know,
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So that is a, is a proposal, a thought idea that hopefully, you know, if the council were to approve this kind of streamline the process a little bit and maybe take care of some of those lien reductions through a standard calculation process with agreement of the, of the, of the property owner. So I'd be happy to answer any specific questions. I don't know if we have a PowerPoint or anything on this. So
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but I think that those are the key points or elements.
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I believe the city attorney covered everything.
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mean, ‸ like he said, we're trying to, to clean it up and make a, an easier route for some of these processes to happen. So that's, I think that's the best method for us to, to work on, on this process. Keeps the cases in house, keeps things moving in the right direction.
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All right. We will proceed in this order.
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deputy mayor weeks.
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The question that I have, I, I, I like this, the ideal of this, cause it speeds up the process. I think the last, this past year, they're going to kind of backlog that we, I know that we received several times.
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amnesty program. Um, it, isn't this somewhat similar to the program that we already, with, with the exception of bringing it to the city manager?
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it was only for a limited, I think a limited duration. And, you know, that is, you know, that expired some time ago.
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It hasn't been re, it hasn't been reinitiated, but that was
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amnesty. Hmm. Wow.
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Okay. Thank you. Thank you for that information. I appreciate it.
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Okay. Councilwoman calls the deputy mayor weeks.
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Um, so essentially we're kind of going around the code enforcement board. They won't be, have any input.
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Not on the
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reductions. Correct.
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Right. And so the criteria for these
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reductions, are we going to see this? Is this, ‸ who, who decides what the criteria are?
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Um, the criteria, the criteria is in the, in the code. Um, the only addition though would be the standard
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calculation.
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Right.
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And that criteria is in the code. And it's a calculation that would be done based on the circumstances in the application. And then that adjusted
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amount based on that calculation gets presented to the applicant.
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And then the manager can expedite the release of the
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that the council approved. If they disagree, then they have to come to the city council and all bets are off. The council's not, not bound by the, by the calculation. The council then would consider the same criteria that the
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been considering for years with the addition of, you would also see the adjusted
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amount based on the calculation.
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the applicant didn't agree to.
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of my concerns is, uh, so frequently I feel like we've been well informed by the conversation that took place in the code enforcement board.
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point. But it did come to us, although there'd be many less coming to us, I would imagine.
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Maybe, depending on the, depending on the calculation.
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I mean, I could walk you through just generally that calculation if the council wants to, but, um, it's a standard calculation.
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give an applicant the ability to just pay it and expedite the release.
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had big swings. Now,
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the fines, the fines would, the fines are determined based on the code enforcement board's order. Mm-hmm. And the amount of the daily fine. And the amount of days that it took to bring the violation into compliance. So, the swings in the, in the, in the amounts of the code enforcement liens, you know, depends on those two factors. What was the amount of the penalty per day and, you know, did the, did the violator expeditiously then bring it into compliance and cut off the lien from, from keep accruing?
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the story behind. And as we have found, some of them should never have been brought in the first place. Uh, there's always all kinds of
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stories
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So will they, if they turn that down when they come here before us, we'll be hearing the same stuff that the code enforcement word used to, where we can null and void, whatever it is.
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If they didn't agree to the adjusted
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calculation. Yes. Comes to the council. Then you can hear. We can hear it. The whole story. Yeah.
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Which I've been hearing and I've written down for tonight as well. Um, because I watched it
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but I watched it on TV. So I know.
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that, that we're going to hear that are, uh,
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Board now will have nothing whatsoever to do with the lien reductions.
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to come twice once to the code enforcement board.
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then here you're yes.
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Yes, ma'am. I, I believe that this will expedite the process because we'll be able to enter into an agreement with that property owner to, uh, to, to comply. Yeah. And I can see
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that. I just wanted to make sure I was clear in my mind before we hit this.
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because
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I want to make sure that, you know, the public gets it through.
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because
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I know some of those set forever waiting for it to come to council and everything. So.
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Correct.
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code enforcement board to handle cases rather than retract, you know, going back and looking at lien reduction.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. We'll just have more time here. Okay. Thank you. All right.
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Any other questions for either the city manager, city attorney or Mrs. Newton?
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that this is on the agenda? The code enforcement board. Did they weigh in on any of this?
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on any of this.
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‸ Keep in mind that, you know, the liens run in favor of the city council. So the city council ultimately has the only say only really legitimate say on lien reductions.
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Again, it is just that we have been well informed by conversations that have taken place. The discussion
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taken place in this code enforcement meetings on many occasions that for some reason doesn't necessarily come here.
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time we get around to that and it just doesn't have a chance to be heard. Well, thank you.
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Yes ma'am. Okay. Any other questions before I turn it over to the public saying none, shall I to close this portion to
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counseling
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over to ‸ the public? I have one card.
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Greenwood. Thank you for hearing me. Um, the method that the, uh, code, uh, board, uh, has for violations that's done with the code board director. How are those, uh, are any of those requirements different for anybody in reference to the noise ordinance guidelines and fines? Is that also done through the code board director now or
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that handled?
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as determined by the code enforcement officer, then a notice of violation can be prepared presented to the property owner and a case brought before the code enforcement board and the property owner could be, if they
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found in violation could be fined for the noise violation today under the city code. We cannot do that because the code board doesn't have jurisdiction to handle noise violations. So this corrects it tonight. This is, this provides an enforcement tool. Enforcement
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tool for it.
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Staff can use to bring ‸ cases and noise violations to the code board.
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Mr. Greenwood, remember the noise violations were presented to the state attorney. Remember the letter from the state attorney that said I'm not prosecuting. Yes, sir.
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civil code enforcement.
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makes it quicker. Uh, makes the guidelines the
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same. Have they changed? Nothing's changed with regards
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to the guidelines on on when it becomes a violation.
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Okay. Thank you. All right.
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there any other additional cards in the audience for this particular item?
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Saying none chair like to close this portion to the public and return it to council. Chair like to make a motion to approve
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Second. I
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Any discussion? So, none
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All in favor saying aye. Aye.
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Aye.
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Any nays?
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unanimously. Go forward. Okay. This concludes this portion of public hearing. Now we will proceed forward to council business.
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the board of adjustment.
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Second.
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gonna call the question. All in favor ‸ saying aye. Aye. Aye. Aye's have it unanimously. Proceeding on to item number 7-2. Now.
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All right. This is what we've been talking about here. Let me get my facts together. Applicant Floor Suppliers Inc.
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is requesting a reduction of the current code enforcement.
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amount of $10,000. Okay. And let me
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make sure I got an understanding of something.
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What is the value of this building? Because I know what I read.
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The city's cost
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$2,433.54. The current value of this building is $1.1 million. Okay. All right. Yes, sir. Mr. Wilkinson, sir. Could you expound on this one?
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Yes. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
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code enforcement board held a public hearing on May 18th of 2023, at which time the board found the property owner in violation of four counts of the ‸ city's property maintenance code from anywhere from accumulation of junk, trash, litter, exterior general condition, boarded up buildings, and roofs and drainage damage. The code board provided the property owners time of July 17th of 2023 to come in compliance and correct the violations. A non-compliance hearing was held on August 17th of 2023. The lien ran at $100 per day from July 17th of 2023 until compliance was achieved on March 13th, 2025.
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And the property is requesting to be reduced to the amount of $10,000.
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Is that what you're saying to me? Or reduce the 60,000 by 10,000, which would make it 50,000?
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No, he's asking to reduce it to the amount of $10,000.
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He's making that recommendation.
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That's what the applicant is requesting. Is he in the audience?
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Okay, I'm gonna ‸ hear from you. What would you like for me to do?
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ahead and hear from him. I have to go for it.
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Okay, come forward, sir.
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name, but if I may take it. Let me take a stab at it, my good friend. I don't want to destroy your name.
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Yes, sir. Okay. Go ahead, sir.
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Yes, I made the request for the reduction. When we got the notice, we did start to work on the different violations. The major violation was the roof. And we spent over $160,000 on the building. So we have to await insurance money to come in, in order to start the roof. And then we also had to basically find ‸ proper contractors, which we could not find because not a lot of contractors could work on that roof. So it took us a little bit of time to get that larger part taken care of. But when we did get the notice, we did start to work on different parts of the ‸ violations.
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When he says they cleaned up everything, but the only thing left was the roof and they wound up, I think you said you paid $160,000 for the roof because that's what I wrote down.
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total.
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of the building to take care of the interior and the exterior.
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So the ‸ code enforcement board was unanimous to reduce it to $10,000, which is what he has agreed to do, the $10,000. So that was what the code enforcement board said.
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I've seen that happen. It takes a while to get a commercial roof done and find the right one. So anyway, in my opinion, I would accept that. Okay.
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Make a motion.
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Oh yeah. I'll make a motion.
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motion.
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We have an emotional
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coverage and
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second, but that motion was done by deputy mayor weeks in a second by council woman costs.
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I have a question after all of them. Go ahead.
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Yes.
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Are you running the flooring business out of there now?
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No, the building is currently ‸ for sale.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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the issues out there. That your business or your property actually, it helped us one year win a trash bash because it was so much litter out there.
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Yeah.
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So I appreciate you addressing that with that being on front street. And I would just ask, I don't know how the board is going to vote on this, but you know, if those liens are reduced, I would just ask that you continue to keep up that property.
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I'm not sure that we're going to be able to even have this conversation. You know, I doubt the council would be motivated to even. Yeah. We
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initially had a challenge with all ‸ the homeless.
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Correct. Correct.
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But we got through the challenge because we even though the building is for sale, we are at that building every day.
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Yes.
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Right. Every morning and evening. So, but
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us on how to handle
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the
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people there. So we have been issuing the trespassing orders. That has helped a lot, but it was a challenge to deal with that situation.
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I understand initially.
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And that was a major part of the litter. You know, okay.
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Thank you for that. And as you stated, you've been in communication with our police department. If you have any issues moving forward, please contact our PD and they can assist on that.
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definitely. I have someone on that building every day. So
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yes, sir,
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every day, morning and evening. Thank you for that purpose.
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No, I just, I was just, the statement I was going to make is that, you know, we cleaned up. Us three,
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our hands on your property ‸ too. So,
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yeah. I appreciate that. That was a
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long morning. Yeah. Yeah. But I, but, but I think you're right about the homeless issues. Because I think next door,
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the clothing.
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‸ And they were tossing. So a lot of times
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they'll just come straight from next door. So,
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So we understand what you was going through.
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Yeah, but it was a challenge, but I think we, we sorted it out and we figured it out. And ‸ we have been, it's been a couple of months. We building us in much better condition. No homeless. Yeah.
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know,
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yeah.
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Okay.
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Okay. Now we have a motion on the floor by, uh, Deputy Mayor Weeks and a second by Councilwoman Costs. Okay.
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Is that correct?
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Mm-hmm.
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Okay. Okay.
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Okay.
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All in favor of saying ‸ aye. Aye. Any nays? ‸ Okay.
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Now, let me ask you a personal question. Sir, because we all put a sweat equity into your facility. I need a commitment from you, sir, as well. Because see, I know you, you're trying to sell your building. Yeah. And there are some projects that we're doing in the city of Cocoa, sir, that I would like for you to collaborate with my city manager, sir, that will enhance our community as a whole. Sir, can I get a commitment when you sell your building?
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Okay. Sir. Uh, uh, what type of commitment?
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That's right.
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Financial community benefits,
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my friend.
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Yeah, we could discuss that. That's not a problem.
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Yeah.
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It's recorded. Go in peace, young man. Thank you very much. Okay. Thank you.
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Okay. Um, we're on item number six, oh, sorry. Seven dash three.
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Come on down, ma'am. It's requesting a reduction of the current code enforcement lien of $149,945 at the property located on 1001 North Indian River Drive be reduced down to zero amounts. Excuse me, amount, rather.
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Okay, Mr.
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Wilkinson,
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help me understand this one, sir. Yes, Mr.
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Mayor. I
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know what the paper tells me, you know, sir. And I see the uniqueness
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and three quarters of a million value property reduction. And I at least want to hear about how the staff can recoup the costs. But let me hear from you, sir.
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Code enforcement board held a public hearing on May 16th, at which time the board found the property owner in violation for the following codes. Permit required for screen enclosure, city code chapter six for pools and spas, the clean and sanitary conditions, and permit required for fences. Code enforcement board provided and gave the property owner significant time of June 16th, 2019 to correct the violations. Code enforcement board here
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public hearing for ‸ noncompliance hearing on September 19th,
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December
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Property owners requested the reduction of reduced the amount to zero.
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Heard the request and upon a time the board recommended the lien be reduced ‸ the amount of
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Stats recommendations that the lien be reduced ‸ the amount of cost, which is $1,819.99.
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And that's the cost for administrative costs. Is that correct, sir?
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Yes, sir.
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Okay. Mrs. Patricia,
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ma'am. I'd like it reduced due to the fact that we had complied prior to the violation. We had complied on the 11th of September, but they violated us on the 19th.
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Yep. She was in compliance before they
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And they pulled the record during the hearings. So it should have never, ever been.
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Mr.
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Mayor.
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Sir.
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There were records in there that the permits were pulled on September 11th of 2019. And were obtained and, uh,
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uh,
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obtained, applied it for and
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for on those dates.
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So
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as the councilman stated that, yes, the deputy
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compliance here and should not have been brought
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From records that I can read that there was lack of communication between the property owner and the previous staff.
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been brought.
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You don't need to do that. Ma'am. No, ma'am.
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You
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know, decent in it.
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Oh,
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well, I
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greatly appreciate it. Thank you, everyone. I'm sure we may have another one.
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Okay.
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We have a motion on the floor to waive the fees by deputy mayor Weeks and second by Councilman Hearn. Chair's going to call the question. All in favor by saying aye.
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Aye.
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No brainer. Ayes have it unanimously. Okay.
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Okay. Okay. Ms. Debbie. Excuse me.
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The applicant is requesting a reduction of
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property located at 49 Parkway Street be
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Why does this seems like deja vu again, Mr. Wilkinson? Sir. Because it is, sir. All right.
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Um, you would like to expound on anything, Mr. Wilkinson, sir.
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Yes, sir.
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October 13th of 2022 from the previous code enforcement manager stating that a reference case that's here before you today was would be closed.
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no
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would be on the property. Then approximately six months later, previous officer was no longer with the city also took action
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further could enforce
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action for the same case and held a public hearing on May 18th of 2023,
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in violation of the city code permit required based on the ‸ officer's testimony. The code ‸ enforcement board provided the owner of the significant time to come to come to compliance by June 17th of 2023. The correct violations. A noncompliance hearing was held on July of 20th of 2023.
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was achieved by January 19th of 2024.
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zero ‸ code enforcement board
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ma'am. Go ahead.
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‸ Well, in this particular case, as you see, she had a letter showing that there was absolutely no liens on the property should never have been brought in the first place. So I move that we reduce it to zero. Okay. I'm looking for a
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second.
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Second.
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Second by councilwoman calls.
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Aye. Aye. Aye too. Will I apologize, ma'am again for our misand. Okay. Go ahead. Councilman.
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I just had a question. For future reference,
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how
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do we prevent that
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from happening? Okay.
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That's good. But ‸ that's why we voted unanimously on the ordeal with the city manager. Give him more oversight. Yes,
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sir. Got
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you. Yes, sir.
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Thank you.
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Okay. Ma'am, you can be dismissed now. Godspeed home, ma'am. To everyone.
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Yes, ma'am. ‸ I'm apologizing for it,
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my love.
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applicant, Allen Condominium Association. Are you in the house?
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Yes, ma'am.
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Come on up to the podium, please, ma'am. Okay. Is requesting a reduction of the current code enforcement lane of 300. Okay. Yeah, that's right.
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at 1723 Dixon Boulevard. Be reduced to the amount of city cost.
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Mr. Wilkinson,
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sir. Mr. Mayor. Thank you, sir.
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board
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following codes.
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Protective treatment, peeling and faking paint. And also chapter 6, maintenance and structures of grounds. Basically saying they're not maintaining the grounds. The code enforcement board provided the owner submission time of April 16th, ‸ 2017 to come to compliance. A noncompliance was held on April 20th, 2017.
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achieved on December 1st, ‸ 2020. The applicant is currently requesting that the lien be reduced the amount
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And
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be reduced to the cost, the staff's cost.
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Okay.
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Thank you very much, Mr.
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Wilkins. You want to hear? Yes. She's the property manager. Go ahead. Hi.
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Just your name only.
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Okay. Go ahead, ma'am.
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So I
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They,
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we began managing the property once the lien was in place, which was in July of 2017. Ever since then, we've worked extremely hard to have the property in compliance. Pulls the entire community up to date. Um, less and less police calls. I do have the president of the association here with me.
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reduced so we can have the buildings re-roofed. All the roofs already past their expand time. So it, we just need it fixed.
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Sorry. So ma'am, you good, ma'am. You're fine.
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It was at the time the, uh, the code enforcement, they were hit. It was under one owner. Now it's been, it's a whole lot of different owners and they have worked hard to fix it up, but they need this, uh, a judgment reduced because they need to put a new roof on, on all the buildings. It's going to cost a ton of money to put roofs on all the buildings. Um, and, uh,
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Um,
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because of the time it has taken, but that's what they reduced it to. And,
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fine down to $5,000.
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Okay. I'll second it for discussion.
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would like to hear from councilman. That's what, thank you, ma'am.
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‸ Excellent presentation.
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Yep. That's what the code enforcement reduced.
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‸ Okay. I'm looking at this.
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Yeah, it's, it's not in there. I wrote it down. Yeah.
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Okay. And, uh, I know that you're the property management. Uh, what was the owner's, uh, position on this whole ordeal?
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point.
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was doing? Well,
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we began managing the property in July, 2017. All this happened prior to that.
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um, property management. We're not them. We don't work that way. Um, I really can't say more because I just go by what I've received, what I've seen.
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Yes,
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absolutely. And I'm there every day.
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There's not one item that
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I would overlook.
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makes
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something much better. Yeah. Okay.
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Thank you.
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But they actually did
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Yep.
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Okay.
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have a motion on the floor by deputy mayor weeks and a second by the chair.
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Just
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going to call the question all in favor and sing. Any nays?
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Thank you ma'am.
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And how can we take, how can we pay that? The 5,000. I have a card. We'll reach out to you tomorrow. Perfect.
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Thank you. Come sit there. Thank
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you so much.
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Please disregard that comment. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. No, not
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to him. Okay.
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We got to
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keep our humor.
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Oh, absolutely. That's what I'm saying. Okay. ‸ Proceeding on to item number six.
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Approve
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the
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to allow the CRA agency to solicit redevelopment proposal for properties located on
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Authorize the mayor to execute the agreement.
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I need a second. Second. Second on the floor by Deputy Mayor Weeks.
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gonna ‸ call the question. All in favor by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Any nays? Ayes have it unanimously.
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Okay. Number seven.
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Boy, we have more. Okay.
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it says ‸ city manager. City. Sir. I know it's
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't know. Hey.
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Yeah.
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Is it slap? Okay, what do y'all want to do?
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This may be a little lengthy discussion. ‸ May not.
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asked us to bring back a discussion and a report on the expenditures over at the two museums, and we've done that. You can see the development timeline for both of the museums, and then you can see the expenditure history for for both of the museums. Remember that prior to, I think, 2021 or so, the ‸ museum, the Brevard Museum, was under management and operation by the historical society, I think it was. And so, again, that's why ‸ the expenses look different there, but we've given you the average annual maintenance, we've given you the operating costs there.
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because, again,
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when the when the previous contractor gave the gave it back to us there, they were staffing that, and so that's only a part-time staffer to the tune of approximately 17,000 per year. So that's that's the difference in sort of the personnel costs associated with the the two museums. We can answer questions if you have.
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Triple G, raise your hand. He's on down the road to the podium, sir, because you have a card that you submitted. ‸ Okay. Just show your thoughts, then I'll hear from council.
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Sure. Good evening, council, staff, and the public. Cultural events and exhibits that have brought me to tears.
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singing. A viewing of three of Thomas Moran's murals from an expedition out west in the 1870s that inspired Congress to create the National
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A visit to Buffalo Jump. I learned about that in history class. In British Columbia, Canada, where I got to talk with and experience what I had learned in school on how Native North Americans were able to survive. A visit to several museums in Savannah, Georgia that had artifacts from the slave trade making what I was taught in school oh so very real.
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this type of experience. I wholeheartedly support both endeavors and trust our council does as well. Thank you very much.
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‸ All right.
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the difference of the maintenance costs and adding in the $16,889 brings a total of $44,521. and that's all I did was just take the maintenance subtract the difference and add the museum cost that we already have been given.
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so I do not in my opinion and I think we talked about this in length before I do not believe that management of this style of museum with the programming that is needed in a brand new museum $16,889 would not be sufficient for any manager to come in to try to make this a successful endeavor like we expect it to be. But if we say equal I believe that would bring us pretty equal and even at 44 we still may not be able to find anyone to run the museum. I'm not sure what that number needs to look like, but I know that $16,889 is not the number.
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so that's just what I did And so the total I came up with was $44,521.
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You subtracted
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and you got a number there and then you added the
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to a grand total of $44,521. Okay.
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$45,21? We could make it
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Okay. $44,521. Yep. No pennies. Nope. All right. I got my lights on. Now fair and equity. City. Oh lord.
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She wants to be heard.
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Where can we
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to be fair and equitable across the board?
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tight man.
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We balance the budget proposal So it would be reallocating from one place to this. I don't really have an answer for you tonight sir.
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On a recurring basis, we'd have to go look for it.
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do it for all. And we're all in here are parents. All of us. And we haven't got two grandkids yet but some has not. But ‸ got to be fair and equitable across the board and We have to come up with a way.
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I know you're not. And and and and that's we maybe could do a
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or whatever.
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proceed in this order.
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Go ahead.
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I guess the first question is so we're making a budget decision before we vote on the budget, before outside of budget talks is that what we're doing here or are we coming up with a proposed plan that will then be a part of those budget talks
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well I was hoping that we were
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going to discuss a plan that you know could be proposed as part you know of the when we go into our budget discussions Because we're going to have decisions to make. And if we're going to... You know, we're going to try to keep within certain perimeters You know, there are always... You know, there's going to be a give and take. and you know they're winners and losers. And we ‸ need to have a plan Now, it sounds to me like Well, first of all,
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It seems a little divisive given the fact that... I mean this I'm not sure why ‸ We would divide it... that way I mean we have a natural history museum
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natural history And then we have a cultural and history museum for the african-american community and for everyone that should be valuable to everyone as well. I went in um Charlene was nice enough to take me in the museum this week just to refresh my memory and take a look at the different interpretation ‸ exhibits and I think that the building itself is almost is a part of the interpretation right
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and I was hoping that we could come up with a plan where we really feature that through a series We really make it an alive museum so it's there there aren't enough exhibits there that you would have a you know people passing through on a regular basis.
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a way to popularize it,
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year's worth of speakers and ‸ you know featured speakers or maybe conversations that can be held there that bring people into that space and making it a real living museum rather than that I think there are six videos that you view as you go in.
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out who that that's a special talent. But, in terms of just doing ‸ I don't know how we set it up equally because the Brevard Museum having been in existence this long it has numerous interpretive exhibits you could spend an hour there easily it's different than
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which is just as valuable but in a different way I mean I don't think we can try to do them the same way I think they demand different probably well I don't know if they demand different staff or not
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kick off the Collins Museum that knows the community understands the history and also you know how to interpret through exhibitions so if we were proposing a certain amount that would go toward that yeah I would like to see that on the agenda when we go to look at our budget. but I think they're really two different entities the Brevard Museum and the Collins Museum It's hard to kind of put them up side by side
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we could come up with. I'll leave it at that
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I agree with a lot of what you said and I did make the suggestion that we put it with Lee Brevard Did you contact them by any chance as a project Because they will come in and look at it ‸ as a project which I think would give us a lot more idea of how to steer it. because right now throwing money at it, we're throwing money at what? we don't know I agree that we need a better plan of some kind to get things off and ‸ running and so I too want to see it be successful but it's going to take time through the right process,
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but
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August it's the next class. and
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I think they present in February So they would come and present to us what their project what they've come up with. and in the meantime working with them through the process you know will give us some ideas of the direction to go or to help I mean we don't have to go with what they say, but I just feel like it would be helpful to have outside And it's a free thing
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that's my thoughts
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‸ so to answer that question I had someone else reach out to
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the deadline was actually passed for projects but she opened it up for last Friday but when I heard about last Friday it was Wednesday and so
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route And what she expressed to me was we didn't have we don't have we do not have a plan. And so by us not having a plan, and we don't have a non-profit or some sort of a manager of the building she didn't feel like,
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We went back and forth for a little while on the phone but you know to her point we don't have a manager or we don't have a plan for the building as of right now.
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plan and or manager in place and then leave Brevard which could be a 2026 project so that's that's that's what we talked about so yeah,
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and she said all that without me on the phone so
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the day, I don't know what Lee Brevard would actually bring to the table there. And so what you're asking in terms of a plan is an RFP for some agency that has an ‸ expertise to actually come in and to manage and operate the museum That includes the day-to-day operations program and exhibit development facilities maintenance and improvements volunteer recruitment community engagement marketing fundraising financial reporting responsibilities and and and so you you
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your plan would be an RFP for somebody that's capable of doing all of those things. I I literally have an RFP on my phone but to implement the plan, you need money and so and so it's always going to come back to money
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is just simply going to say, you need more exhibits. You need it to be a venue,
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you need marketing You need all of those things that would be in an RFP um and so again we we we come back to dollars that you're going to be able to appropriate in a budget to actually hire somebody to do all of those things. next week you will receive a balanced budget proposal. and so um and so we will be talking about how you want to adjust that, um to achieve whatever you want to achieve at the, ‸ museum. ‸ but again at the end of the day, at the beginning of the day, this is this is about uh expertise uh
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in terms of doing all of those things that I, that I just outlined. That's the, the typical, uh book of services that's provided by someone that manages museums. And, and, and
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the last conversation that we had about equal right but I also didn't want to go to war today about it And so that's why i kind of I went the route of, okay let me
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I was kind of arguing with myself about it too. um but
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said okay uh since the mayor was ‸ really adamant about equal, I said, let me come up with a way to get it somewhat in agreement And, and that's, that's the reason why I did it. I didn't do it because I wanted to, to
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be honest with you,
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thing for us right now is to be
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right ‸ we should not be bickering over, over this because this is a great idea. ‸ however we go you know but I think a manager or a non-profit i think
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to me just what he just read off on this rfp We need someone to do that.
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you know what I mean? so i think I don't think staff have the time to to do that style of programming correct me if I'm wrong saying that
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Remember there are folks who actually go to school and get degrees in uh in museum curation you know and so and so we don't have the ‸ time or the expertise. If you look at Hannibal square, they have a staff of three. yeah
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and so and so they have a, they have a staff of three. uh it's a
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have a donation from the city. I think
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donates, but it's run from a not-for-profit and I, I would assume that they do fundraising and they go out and get grants there. And so it is sort of a dependent ‸ agency. um But again, um there's there are dollars that uh is contribute that are contributed by the city uh to that not-for-profit to actually run the uh the museum. but ‸ again, it's it is it is, if you're gonna ‸ put out an RFP, you'd ask for those things that I that i enumerated. yep yep
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and And another thing to kind of piggyback on Councilwoman, cause that that's a good point ‸ about um you know the discussion about programming. But the RFP does just that. They they create the programming that we need for that museum. Let let the non-profit do that work. um to my Just in my my ‸ humble opinion on that.
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yes sir Yeah, I got you. I see you like ‸ but I have something ‸ One, it goes back to dollars and cents, as he just alluded to.
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You can put lipstick on that pig. You can give that pig a week It doesn't matter. It still takes dollars and cents. And the second and most important thing about it is the perception of it. When you look at it with the naked eye, because we can talk about different institutions throughout this whole state, these United States. so
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representation, um i i you got to have money. And right about now, you guys are not going to jack up your
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the millage rate. and And unfortunately, when people see it, they're going to ask that question. But the greatest thing that you can do is have skin in the game. There are several people that I've talked to who are willing to help assist in this. Because once you get the doors open um as a fundraiser, you can have birthday events there. You can even have a marriage uh a marriage there. Someone can get married there at that facility. We must open up our hearts and minds in order to get that uh building utilized. um Now,
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aunts and uncles attended that school, and members throughout this community
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because you have to because people are going to look at it as perception, which is reality. So it's important that we just slow this down but do it decent and in order. And I know we can
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it's not going to happen tonight. What I mean by that, it's not going to happen tonight. No dollar amount will be assessed. I think if we calm down, start putting pieces to the puzzle to make it a successful attraction center ‸ because all roads lead through that right now on Blake Avenue ‸ from Barbara Jenkins to
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Thomas Lane, Johnson Boulevard, all of them intersect through that street. And it's been the community. And
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And that's the thing when you invest the kids. Even our doggone
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And we have
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now that some of those ladies will be willing to volunteer their time. ‸ I guarantee it. But they haven't been approached. And that's the reason why I'm saying slow this wagon down so we can do things decent and in order. Because it's going to cost money.
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There's another one. And I have multiple other names that are willing to do it.
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Because I could probably get you some pieces. Yes, ma'am.
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All right. Okay. Councilwoman calls?
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I was just going to say the appreciate, you know, it's not apples to apples, but the whole idea that we do have to invest in it. You know, I wholeheartedly support that. I think it's good for everybody in our community. And I'm wondering, is it an RFP or do we hire a consultant?
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No.
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No. I mean, what you described. That is. I mean.
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A consultant does what?
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A consultant can write a plan for a museum with a step-by-step.
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I guess I don't. Let me just. So I think this is an RFP. I think the end goal is. And I'm just going to read you some things that I was playing with.
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cultural institution, celebrating the stories, achievements, and lived experience of African-Americans in Cocoa and Brevard County. Located in the historic Diamond Square, the museum currently features, and you insert what we feature, and aspires to expand its reach through innovative programming, dynamic exhibits, and strong community partnership. The city seeks a partner to transform the museum into a sustainable, vibrant destination that educates, inspires, and engages residents and visitors alike. ‸ And so you, you again, put an RFP out on the street for someone to come in
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capital improvements, to ‸ coordinate volunteer and community engagement, to do financial sustainability, and
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obviously do compliance reporting and marketing if I didn't say that.
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And so I don't know that a consultant will tell you all of the things that I just told you, and you got to pay them above and beyond what you're, what you're paying me and the rest of staff there. And so this is again, dollars and cents that are put on the table to issue an RFP for somebody to become the manager, the curator, the facilities manager, the marketing expert, the volunteer curator of the museum.
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Again, Hannibal Square has a staff of three people and the city only contributes $50,000 to that.
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my light on. It also serves a community of how many people?
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Half a million at least. So it's kind of hard to compare them.
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we're something that we have a museum that is in its infancy and has a potential to be this living, developing. I mean, it's, we need to make it alive. And we also have just a fabulous space there.
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mean, it really has a nice feel.
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a plan fairly easily with our own staff in terms of we, and we have, we do, we facilitate events all the time, making it available for weddings or birthdays and
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And that sort of thing.
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you know, holding discussions, that sort of thing.
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where are we?
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we got a lot left. Can we, is there a motion here? There's no motion. So this will just come to us in the budget meeting.
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If you want my honest good opinion, ma'am, stop it right here. Let us do what we need to do to bring a ‸ group of individuals that won't be committed. If you got one right here in the audience. I know you're looking at the time element. This
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I, and you, and I know you're talking about a plan, which I understand. But I'm thinking, there's a difference between me consuming ‸ this and whereas you're forcing this on me. That's the point that I'm saying to you. Because there again, there again, it's going to require dollars and
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I'm talking about S-E-N-S-E.
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He's on the time schedule. I'm not on the time schedule because I'm saying that we can formulate a good plan that will incorporate that.
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the ultimate plan is to make that a historical ‸ site where people will come and take the tours there. On both sides. When they even
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And you got the school there. So I mean, there's a thing in the Bible that says do things decent in order. Decent. We're not doing it decent right now. And it's not, it's going to be
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frustrating
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because a lot of hearts are going to burn right about now. And that's the reason why I'm just saying, slow this down. We get this power in numbers. You're going to get people to volunteer their time.
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they are
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willing to volunteer their time. I already know it because I've been talking. So that's the reason why I'm saying, but I, ‸ I'm moving on based on what you all are saying.
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What we're going to be doing is we're going to keep dragging our feet. We're going,
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and we're going to have the museum where we have volunteers come in. And, and someone bring artifacts
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it's not going to be a programmed museum. You cannot run this museum with respect and not have a nonprofit and or a manager running this properly.
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someone come in, open the door, and you're going to have people do whatever they want to do. Instead of having a manager in place that has a plan and a program that respects this building as much as it should be.
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along with the nonprofit that's going to be running the museum, just like they do at Hannibal Square and other places. Those volunteers like this young lady just said just now, she's willing to volunteer. Mary, you said there's a few people that you know that may be willing to volunteer.
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management of it, right? That that's to me, to run it properly with respect is to have someone that has the expertise, not just somebody who living down the street who can come open the door.
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that's as stated multiple times. He's he did not say one time that we do not have the money. He said he has to find the money. That's what staff is there for. It's not putting a
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before the horse when we've been sitting here since 2016 2017 after we did the grand opening of this building. Now we in 2025.
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we're going to be 10 years down the road. That that that's what the process that we're going right now. If this was 2018 I can understand that statement. But at this point, it's not a rush.
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I think it's ‸ I think it is time. And and so that's the only the only there is not a panic
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just we need to do something as all of us have stated already.
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inviting everybody who's interested not only in volunteering, but interested in perhaps running the museum, you know, do some ‸ sort of an event where we invite everybody in because we might find somebody a retiree, somebody who isn't going to cost an arm and ‸ leg, but willing to, you know, get
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started. Because we have so many retirees here. And I'm sure there are people who've run museums and and done this kind of thing and maybe invite in the and see what kind of group of people would come to an event at the museum inviting, like I say, for volunteers, ‸ people with museum experience, stuff like that. Let's plan something and do some sort of a workshop or an event of that kind and do it fairly soon.
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At least we're making a step in the right direction.
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to the top.
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money we might be talking about for it. But I'm just throwing that out there as a way as a starting point. Let's see. We keep saying there. These people are interested. ‸ Let's get them all together and see what comes out.
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Well, I ‸ do notice. We say we believe in staff, but then
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that process already.
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these particular volunteers. It's not the first time we had this conversation. And so it is. Yeah, it is. It's not is they and I'm not saying that they couldn't have done more. Right. I think
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tell you that. But it's been on the streets for a while searching for those individuals to step forward.
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Well, we can do that.
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I just want to make sure that you remember this day and this remember this opportunity that we are here now and we're able to make a difference now. Or we're going to be sitting here 10, 20 years from now wondering why ‸ that's what's going to happen. No, that's facts.
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I just want to object to that ‸ because
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We've done quite a bit.
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I'm not I'm not I'm not talking about the renovations. We have that.
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‸ We have gone for all the grants and that was at the expense of being able to go for grants.
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other museums. So, you know, that ‸ we I think we have done a decent job. That whole community is really developing now with with all the housing that we're going to be doing there.
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have in the context of the budget. So, you know, we can actually
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I'm down with it.
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and I mean, maybe the city manager will propose something and
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city manager waiting on us. That's what he's doing. He's not going to move on this unless we tell him the direction that we're going.
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I'm down with it.
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cause you're absolutely right. That neighborhood is changing. It's a lot coming into the community. Yep. That's why it's the perfect time to bring in a manager for the museum now. Because they'll have maybe one or two years to get the program is situated. We have a lot of nonprofits here.
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We got NAACP here. A lot of different people are already coming to the table, but they need that leadership. They need that manager in place to lead them to it. Just having dates in
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it is
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a museum.
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part of that leadership.
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I am full. ‸ I'm behind having a manager in place. Every single museum I've been to has had managers.
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One I've seen.
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Thank you.
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operating on what? Volunteers? Thank you.
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I'm back there, ma'am.
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we know,
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like you stated, those are two different styles of museums.
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Oh, yeah.
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Two different styles of stories. You cannot compare the two.
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What
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got to do with that?
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The education about you. That's what I'm saying. It's not-
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we're talking about.
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trying to muddy the water. You're talking about leadership. You're educating the people. You got more agenda. Yeah.
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know what the-
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Well, ‸ if the conversation, so I- Okay. If everybody agreed to that, that a conversation could be had at the budget meeting, I'm down with that 100%. Just
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pack your lunch, breakfast, dinner, midnight smack, snack, whatever, excuse me, because you're
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to need it all. Oh, because there again.
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Okay.
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Let's get this boat.
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got it.
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got it. ‸ Go ahead. Councilman.
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the budget meeting.
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You need somebody with some expertise. I wouldn't, uh, have a volunteer come in and volunteer to be a fire chief.
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that being said, the conversation on volunteers, um, I believe with the Brevard Museum, um, they went through this whole process as well. And
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They even had a non-profit that was trying, they were trying to put together a non-profit
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And ultimately it failed.
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for this museum. So I'm in agreeance that we need management. Um, obviously the council is in agreeance of moving it to a budget meeting. Um, I just think as a council, we need to start thinking, we need at least have faith and step out and try to move these. These type of agendas or initiatives forward. Um, I think we have nothing to lose from it only to gain in my opinion. So ‸ that's all I'll say on that. And I say that
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because
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I'm going to bring up an item on my reports and I hope I can get some council support on
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that.
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‸ It'll be, but I would love to get the council's opinion on it as well before it moves to an agenda item. So
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that's why I say that. Now
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we're getting
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ready
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‸ Council approval requested to authorize the acceptance of a donation consistent of a 2008 edge water power boat.
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attached Suzuki 250 horsepower, four stroke motor with the
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along with an accompanying boat trailer valued at $1,055.
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I'll make a motion. I'm gonna ‸ listen to you to approve this.
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Request to authorize this. You would like to say anything, Mrs. Bowman, ma'am. Vote in and engine.
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that this boat, excuse me, replaces the existing boat. And since it was contribution, it required a budget adjustment to recognize the value of the contribution. Hence this agenda item.
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Okay.
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have a motion on the floor in a second.
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All in favor saying aye. Aye. Aye.
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to be bigger, better, more reliable,
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dependable,
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more dependable and, and, and costs us the same as it costs us to maintain the old boat.
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Okay. Moving on to item number eight dash to approve it. MOU between the city of Cocoa and Brightline for the city multimodal passenger rail system. Move to approve.
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Second.
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All right. There we go. We have a motion on the floor by deputy mayor of weeks. Second by councilwoman calls. Chair's gonna call the question. All in favor by saying aye. Aye. Any nays? Ayes have unanimously. Item number three under city business, which was item number five from the Michael C. Blake subdivision from consent. Item number five city manager, sir.
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Yes, sir. So, so, and this was originally under consent. Um, there
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some changes that we needed to make to
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make those changes.
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um, agreement. So, so these all are amended and restated. I'm not sure I
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already knows he made.
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and the development agreement that have been amended. And, um, I hate to have Jennifer sit here and not let her do a presentation, but, but, but, but so we'll, we'll quickly get through that. So, so recall that this deal was for the Michael C. Blake subdivision. It was 32, uh, homes. Um, and that required a replatting of the subdivision because remember we're splitting the existing lots. So again, replatting is necessary. Uh, 32 homes, the two homes that are on mango. We're never a part of the Michael C. Blake subdivision. And so don't need to go through a replatting. Lennar is interested in starting those right away. We're interested in them starting those right away.
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do this in two phases. And so, uh, we will probably have a groundbreaking for the two on mango this month.
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So they're traditional homes. Jen, can you show the elevation for those?
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The ones that are on go back one slide. The ones that are on, uh, are in the subdivision again, that has to go through the replatting the whole site plan of approval process. Those are again, the, uh, the, the narrow lot homes, um, that will go on, uh, the 32 lots that are created.
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uh, get started right away. Uh, we were able to renegotiate the price for those two lots from 15,000, uh, per lot to $25,000 per lot. So, yeah, so it's, it's always, it's always about, you know, time, time, the time value of money, right? Um, so, so that they were gracious enough to do that. Um, and so we get started right away. We, uh, they build the two lots again, separate from the whole process of replatting the subdivision for the, for the 32 other homes there. And that's it in a nutshell. And Jen, I apologize for making you sit here all night and not let you do your presentation.
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No, no problem. I didn't have a presentation for this per se. I just wanted to have some slides for you to support your narrative. So, okay. They're just visuals.
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So that's
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long and short of it.
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Move to approve.
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have a motion on the floor by deputy mayor weeks to approve the
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Go ahead. I just had a question. Um, weren't at one time we were looking at going into negotiations on, uh, possibly purchasing the lots on Barbara Jenkins to include in this project. Yeah. Or is that a house?
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Yeah.
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Uh, they, they did go out and get appraisals on the lots there. I think they will accept, uh, proposals. Um, I'm not sure what they're going to do with the proposals there, but they know that, uh, there are a number of folks out there interested in.
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So, so I know for a fact, there's one, uh, community organization that wants to become a choto that wants to do those.
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And remember we have the recycled dollars from the sale of the first five, um, from the first five homes that we did in Michael C. Blake that we could actually, uh, purchase and, and do homes there. So the ball really is in the, uh, in the, uh, court of the housing authority.
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within that community.
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So, uh, that's why I inquired about that.
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then we'll call the question. So we have 32 lots.
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Does that money just go
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directly into the
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general fund? What does that do? ‸ What's going on with that?
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Um, no, so, so, so the, the two lots are 25,000 a piece. The split, the splits are 15,000 a split. So that's 400 and ‸ some odd thousand dollars plus the 50. I
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So, so, so I think it, I think
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that go directly back into that,
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that is put back into the, into the ‸ pot that's there to, for, to do the ‸ affordable housing. Yeah.
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Well,
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I think, I think, well, we could, we could actually do that, but I think we have approximately 1.2 ish in that. I think it's, I think it's just, well, let me just call it 1.2 plus we'll have the 500,000. Right.
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Okay. And is that, and is that specifically just for those homes in that subdivision, that pot of money, it stays there?
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It was for affordable housing.
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And then the, the income qualifying and the first time, um, the down payment assistance, um, like on the other homes, we went through, um, CHI.
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Yes. Yes. THI qualified them.
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then we had funds in either the, um, home
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Right. So, ‸ so diamond square. So, so the pot is recreated. Let's just put it this way. The pot is recreated at ‸ approximately 1.7, but recall how we got there. We got there through a combination of general fund dollars and diamond square
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I would say at a minimum, we should be looking at, um, if we're going to do something with that pot, then, then I think we somehow old diamond square portion of those proceeds. Gotcha.
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Okay. Thank
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Yes, sir. Thank you. Chair's going to call the question on the favor saying aye. Aye. Aye. Aye's have it unanimously. Final item for tonight.
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have another item. It's resolution. Yeah. This resolution that we have is on the city business approval resolution.
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benefits policy modifying the benefits available to the position of deputy director. Thank you.
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fire chief police commanders
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the city clerk. Excuse me. City manager, sir, and executive team.
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Yeah. Mrs.
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Let me, let me just tell you my intent with regards to this was to attract and retain. Um, the best that we can. We, we have, uh, again, we have a deputy director for utilities. We have, um, an assistant fire chief. We have the two police commanders, and then we have the assistant finance director.
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so they're, they're all, uh, second sort of in charge. You're second in charge. You should have. Second in charge, uh, personnel that are able to succeed, uh, the director. And so I think that, um, there needs to be some incentive in place so that we are, uh, appropriately taken care of when it comes to succession planning appropriately taken care of when it comes to retaining folks that who, in ‸ essence, should be being groomed to take over the leadership position. Uh, if something happens or if, uh, if the directors retire or move on. And so again, uh, we're not at market rate for the directors. We're certainly not at market rate for the deputy directors. ‸ And so I felt like, um, something needed to be in place to show that, uh,
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that there's value.
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again, having, uh, qualified and competent personnel in the second positions in, uh, on,
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these critical departments.
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‸ Okay. Any questions? I'm
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sorry.
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Um,
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so I just want to point out,
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also included in that. Yes,
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Okay.
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And so just to recap very briefly, um, starting back in 1986, council started making some different benefits available to the directors as opposed to the regular employees. Um, ‸ this things got a change from resolution after resolution after resolution. And so we're trying to just establish a policy that the resolution adopts the policy as a document by itself.
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employees employed by a certain time. Got a hundred percent health insurance benefit after a different time.
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And so that stands still by itself, but that is not being changed. Um, and then his subsequent resolutions city
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to directors and the city manager and assistant city manager through different resolutions. Um,
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um, that applies to them if they retire from the city and within that policy is the definition of executive management, um, ‸ retirement. Um, and so, um, with this recent change, uh, there's a definite definition in there of the executive management team, which includes all those titles that the city managers just defined. Um,
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so within that they're again eligible for some different benefits, which is, um, different vacation benefits, sick benefit, uh, life insurance while they're employed for the city.
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all the other resolutions, um, there's just a policy and the resolution that, um, adopts the policy to make any kind of future changes easier. And it went back and forth and back and forth, ‸ back and forth over time.
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I make a motion to approve staff recommendation of resolution 2025.043 for discussion? Yes, we do. Councilwoman calls.
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Yeah, I'm tired. So this is, won't have much of a discussion, but what comparisons do we have?
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How does it compare to other municipalities?
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was just, um, a change at the request of the city manager to add these titles.
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get those additional benefits. Okay.
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the life insurance or not life, the health insurance, like I said, still has not changed.
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Other
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employees still have that benefit. And again, you need to reach, um, Medicare age and retire
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certain definitions to be eligible for that benefit.
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benefits package. It's it's, um, and I think, you know, we have a lot of stability, um, in our executive team. So, um, it seems to be working. So I'll make the motion to approve.
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Um, how much extra is this going to add to the budget?
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Um, again, it depends on, um, the people retiring. Uh, there's additional, uh, vacation time that's being added for these positions. I don't know exactly what the differential is.
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number of the employees have been here for a number of years. So they're probably at that level anyways, a little bit of a differential in the life insurance and then getting paid out. The sick pay depends on if you meet those conditions. So I can tell you, I'm not getting the lifetime benefit.
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to meet those eligibility requirements. So it just depends on how long you've been here.
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Yeah. Those are, those are mostly future liabilities. Yep. I got you. Okay.
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‸ Recorded as other post-employment, employment benefits. Yeah.
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Yeah. And I know normally you have good benefits to try and offset the lower pay.
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So I understand that as well. That's what they do in the military. My husband had to do 20 years to get the TRICARE for life. So anyway, thank you. I'm good.
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Okay. We have a motion on the floor by the chair in a second by deputy mayor weeks.
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Congratulations. All right.
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you got reports. uh
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Yes, certainly it's at your discretion, uh sir. uh So I'll take my two and a half minutes and I'll wrap it up into just a couple of things.
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Absolutely.
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uh One of the observations you'll find out about at TPO on Thursday, ‸ you probably already know about it, but for everybody else, the widening project for 524 is now broken into five phases and it's a phased approach. Some of the good news that I heard. One, uh under the draft cost feasibility plan, the crystal ball that says we will have money it's fully funded for 2036 to 2050.
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Work it, Mayor, work it. uh And and then uh same with the 501, the Clear Lake uh uh Road, uh fully funded 26 to 2050, uh fully
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course, still under uh uh discussion for uh
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City Hall, at fire stations, at the police station and leisure services facility. we're also going to be hosting a collection event on saturday july 19th from 9 a.m to 2 p.m at uh
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Walmart.
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1st, at uh
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that's a little change from um from from where we normally do it there. uh Also, the city has partnered with the Early Learning Coalition to install a learning trail surrounding the playground at Provost Park. uh
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to bring early learning to families in a free, fun environment with interactive sidewalk activities and signs with learning prompts. um Early Learning Coalition has volunteers from
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uh summer mission team that will work on July 16th to help install the signs and paint the stencils uh on the sidewalks and you you guys are welcome to participate in that. uh Chief Lamb introduced the new assistant Fire Chief Roderick
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mr city manager um brevard house alliance is proud to announce that ‸ they have expanded their services at endeavor elementary they have a health clinic at endeavor elementary school which now will include care for adults and families of the students. In in addition to, it is a it is becoming a true neighborhood resource for parents, siblings, and community members who can receive the same high quality compassionate care on the campus. uh The expansion and serves ensures better access to primary care, chronic disease management, and wellness support for the whole family in one convenient location. For more information or to make an appointment, uh you can call
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Okay, anyone else? That's it ‸ Okay, sir, for the sake of time, I will defer my report. um Who goes first today, Deb? Sorry, it's Holy
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right, sir. Sorry, sir. Evens. ‸ All right. Evens.
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any uh photos. um So one of the things I wanted to bring up, and uh council could chime on ‸ if they want to. uh Hopefully we can have it come back as a gender item. I love giving staff homework. um So uh it was brought to my attention with the brack uh Bracco Pond. uh Some of the citizens would like to see more use out there, community use, and uh ways of having more community gatherings out there. So one of the things that I noticed when
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Rockledge, they have it's more like a minute miniature amphitheater amphitheater or stage staging area. um I just recently saw online
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so you don't have to worry about issues of people uh you know sneaking or sleeping on it overnight, having people roam around the park at night.
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uh how feasible it is to have something like that, a structure like that over on the, that would be the east, the southeast side of the park, uh where we utilize when we had the recent storm, ‸ we put the debris over there.
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the need to add parking. If there was an event, people could rent it out, um host community uh gatherings, uh events. So um if council is okay with at least exploring that idea, ‸ having staff bring something back to the council to present. as If we are okay, if we're okay with it, we could probably do it as a plan over the next couple ‸ years to try to work, to have something like that out there.
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but if we come up with a plan over the next couple ‸ years, we could probably get there. So I was hoping to get kind of uh consent from the council on that.
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What do you could you say? Just bring back a plan you said, sir.
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Or maybe like a rendering, some ideas, a a possible budget, what it would cost to do something like that.
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can do that as well. I could see what, what I have to uh ‸ staff, but I would love for it to come back to us as a whole to, you know, be presented to us. um As we all know, Bracco Pond, the, the possibilities out there are like unlimited. We can do so much out there and make it more useful
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district two. So
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that's
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Unfortunately. What?
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You're the one that said sleepy? I
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know. I know. Like, I really don't have the,
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I don't have the bandwidth. ‸ But, um oh
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I got to say hi to everyone, um
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introduce
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it for everyone. So that, it was a great event. ‸ In fact,
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did I do? um so it's actually the best one. I think I've been at all of them. um even the year before I was elected. So this was absolutely the best event. There was just a lot going on with singing and dancing and shopping and lots of vendors. And
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would uh affirm that assessment as well, that it was the best event. yet. um i my My term on the Save Our Indian River Lagoon is over, so ‸ fortunate the county commissioners have appointed me to the Environmentally Endangered Lands Program, and I'll be serving on their education committee. This is an article, the headline there is an article that I brought you in April. However, that ruling was appealed, and the appeal uh lost. And so we have a septic moratorium that will go into effect
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map. And that's why I have it there on the right. Now, this is um this is similar to what, you know,
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But with this ruling, it will now go into effect on July 18th. And I
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what it means is that conventional septic will no longer be allowed. So if I have with my convection conventional um system if it has a breakdown, I will have to go to an advanced system. Now, the last time we discussed this, we had some people get up and talk about they had advanced sewer and um in fact, those were some of my neighbors, and I happen to ‸ know that they have what is a certified NSF 40 system. Now, that does not, um they have those systems, we're required to have those systems, when those homes were built, into the bluff on the Indian River Lagoon. That was a requirement at that time. They
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And, you know, i
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it basically boils down to that um
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uh the oxygen demand, the the uh total suspended solids, but did not address nitrogen. So those systems are going to have to be replaced as well. Just putting that on your radar screen and pointing out this map again, which in this is
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part of the North Indian River Lagoon, which is affected by this. All of the purple are where the septic are, and you see that it's mostly in that in that area north of Dixon. um But we have some spots in probably, uh what's probably District
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or District
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The blue lines you see are the forest mains. so um there's work to be done here.
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is monies available um that would help them get on to almost pay in full, getting on to the sewage. Of course, they would then they would have a sewage bill. But nonetheless, if they end up having to go to an advanced system, which eventually they will, um well, this would be a way to prevent that, to to get in front of that and have it paid for. um So anyway, that's that's the update there.
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that is set for July 18th. um And I remember ‸ this morning when I started going over this, that at the last meeting we had requested that the utilities advisory board be put on the agenda. And we've missed this agenda. So do I need a motion or can we just, I requested it be on the agenda and I think uh Deputy Mayor yeah supported that. um Can we get that on the agenda? Can I get a commitment on that? there are a lot of water issues our utility
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board gives it gives
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it more
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transparency gives the public more of an opportunity i think particularly with all the issues that we face in this regard it would be a good thing to have in place this council never voted to stop that advisory board. It just stopped meeting. The meeting stopped being called. And as I understand it is a policy decision whether we have these boards or not, right? I mean it, um
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kind
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of a long meeting tonight Yeah, so I don't want to discuss this anymore but
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I've requested, I think I have the right as a council member to request that it be on the
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don't okay And that's the end my report
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quick. i and I'm sitting here going. Do I take oh are you bringing mine up? Thank you,
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not, ‸ I
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know, I'm so bad.
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I'm gonna ‸ I'm gonna ‸ start with the, with the story that was in the paper, which I showed all of you. And I still say we need a retraction and find out why they called us
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did that, but uh
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and have
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don't
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get it. So anyway, but I will say the mayor and I look like bookends. And so you look at that picture, but that was in the Florida today over the, and again, thank you to Orlando health for that. That was awesome. um I'm going to show a few pictures. This is uh
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Tavern in New York city. And on that balcony is where George Washington gave his first inaugural address. The building was built in 1719 and you can eat in there today. It's
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really cool.
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And the whole street, this is
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And so to walk those streets to know, oh Hamilton, Alexander Hamilton ate his last meal before the duel there too. um My daughter, my granddaughter, huge Hamilton fan. We, I took her to see Hamilton on Broadway, but we also went to
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And this is us in front of Hamilton's house. And what's neat is
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that, uh was Hamilton was the original owner. He had this house built
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pictures wouldn't let us not be and then this was his uh his grave.
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awesome. And
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and it was great
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and then yes exactly and this was my pictures from the stage which I mean huge crowd. Obviously the rain kept some people away but then this was from when we went out to sit looking back at the stage that
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had to do it because the sound board was under there in case it rained and of course I have to get two of my cute granddaughters in the picture and fireworks ‸ were absolutely fabulous. um One quick thing. Do we have any update on the Cocoa Conservation Area? Do we know when we're going to get that back a report back from the from the staff?
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okay
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wonderful
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I just wanted to know when it was coming and I am done. Thank you very much.
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‸ Let me be quick.
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I know from Diamond Square that went um to the county commission meeting also community members that showed up in uh kind of a I guess the last couple ‸ days they found out about an agenda item. um but we had a pretty good showing Tracy
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and some others. um Mr. Larry Brown representative Brown um showed up to the the commission meeting and it was good even though I think it was going to end up favorably anyway but it's good to show that the community showed up and show that they care about our CRAs. um this is the again the uh
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between
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five years first time I ever went the um
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from Rec. 225. uh they've been there for five years they
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the community um birth control and all these different things that they ‸ do they do a whole lot that I didn't know about um well I told them I was gonna ‸ put them on a report today.
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that is we used to be at
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It's totally different now. um
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um they're They live in
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um but they are all homegrown. They have six or seven uh restaurants inside of Brevard County, and the food is really good. uh So um the
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thank you for participating um in your civic duty, expressing your concerns and your right about local government, because it's the best form of government, because it's the closest form of government to the people. So I thank you for your commitment and dedication. thank you
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and the great citizens of this city um
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