Because I came down here to go to the bank.
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59. And I couldn't get in to the ATM machine. Whenever they have these functions down here, you all need to give them this guide, what I've just passed in to you all, how to get in there and to get out. I was able to go early that morning and the little people with their tents and up all directed me into there and I went through the ATM machine. But when I came back later that afternoon, somebody had parked their car directly in front of the ATM machine and the other people couldn't get in and couldn't get out. It is a little side roll there, but that little side roll will only let you go in and come out to Church Street.
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signs everywhere else. You can go my direction. You can get in there. If it's raining, you can go to the ATM machine and you can come on back out to Church Street. I'd appreciate you looking into that. I don't care how many functions you have downtown, make sure whoever's in charge of it that they get this direction and leave that ATM machine open, please. Not only that, one of the tellers that I talked to, she said she had the same problem when she came down here, but she's of another faith and she doesn't come to meetings like this. And so I told her I would mention it, but I'd appreciate you all looking into it.
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Yes, ma'am.
Okay, and I have another engagement to go to. And thank you, ma'am, for sending that letter to our 63rd Church of Christ anniversary. It's beautiful. I intended to bring the book down here to let you all see it, but you all will see it one day. But I appreciate you for my time and my efforts.
I
think I told you where I live, but I appreciate everything. I'm so glad there's not too many people there tonight.
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Ruth, thank you. Okay, thank you.
Mr.
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I was
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work ‸ on our special events, and we will let them know in terms of see if they can coordinate with the Bank of America. But it is private property.
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on their property.
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on their property. The barricades
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else to level on their property.
We will I'll bring it up,
too.
I'll make sure Steve's got a copy of it, and he's over at Leisure Services.
‸ Okay, barricades out on the
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him, I've talked to you.
Thank you. Thank you. ‸ Have a great night.
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Thank you, Larry.
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That's the race. All right.
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Gina, how
are
you doing?
Hi, and I'm Gina Fadley, and I am not running for Mike Blake's seat, just for the record. No, actually, I'm coming for another issue. I feel sure that this was an oversight by the city,
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And actually, cemeteries were exempted by the U.S. government by the passage of the 1913 Act. They have traditionally been considered sacred lands. Besides the U.S. government exempting cemeteries
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‸ on cemeteries and graveyards. Simply, who will pay them? Most of the residents there, actually all of the residents there, are deceased. And it's kind of hard to extract money from them. Again, I'm sure it was just merely an oversight, but there's a bill that's been sent. And before the natural chain of events snowballs into a much bigger problem, which is what happens when you get a bill that's not paid, and then there's liens, and it just becomes a bigger and bigger issue year after year. So I'm just asking that before it becomes a big problem that you,
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the Cocoa cemeteries, from future bills, cancel any current or past due ones tonight. That's what I would like. Thank you very much.
Mr. Mayor, what I've shared, I know you've brought this issue to me, and under the next assessment resolution as it relates to fire assessment, we can certainly take that into consideration and we can evaluate the situation, but you would not have the ability under the current fire assessment ordinance, which the future bondholders are going to be relying on, to arbitrarily waive and or forgive ‸ current persons or properties or entities ‸ fire assessment. However, for the next role, we've already identified with the finance team that this may be one property that may
needs
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So what happens then? Is there a lien going to be placed when it's not paid, and then it's a problem because year after year and the
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the cemetery.
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Which cemetery? There's...
Evergreen. Yeah, Evergreen
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Cemetery.
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Lake.
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That's
the
one that just did the
renovation
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Okay.
This is perfect government. There's a lot of vacant land.
Perfect
government stuff right here.
But
there's a lot of... ‸ One of the issues is there's also a large amount of vacant land related to the cemetery, meaning that ‸ there's a small portion being used for the cemetery, just the frontage, and the rest is all vacant land.
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No. It's not two separate parcels. Okay. Just a small portion of the property is being used for...
But it is the cemetery. It's...
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I'm
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not sure. It's been there so long. Who knows
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back there?
I mean... But
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regardless, it is the cemetery property.
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correct it next year, who's going to pay this year's?
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Yeah. This will
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The
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natural chain of events, this will not go away.
Who's the owner of record for the cemetery? I mean, ‸ it's not just...
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corporation?
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And my family is behind that. Most
of your family is there.
Yeah. A lot of my family is there.
So it's...
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But ‸ it's public. It's not owned by my family. My father has been the trustee and guardian for about 50 years.
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And he's never gotten a tax bill. And so when we got this one, it's become an issue that keeps him awake. I guess really
the tipping point is, can the city make it right by next year?
And
can the city take care of this year's next year?
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tax... Correct. Yeah, that's correct.
Just
a fire assessment. Okay.
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That's right.
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always been zero. Mm-hmm. In county and everything else.
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They do not tax cemeteries.
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It's just the front portion that you can... As you're driving down, clearly, ‸ you're looking at ‸ east and the west on the board and sidewalk. It's just the front portion.
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Mr. City Manager, we're going to
have
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remedy
this somehow. This is highly unusual.
‸ I can get with the city attorney.
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These are cemeteries that are... The IRS is cemeteries organized and operated exclusively for the mutual benefit of their members, you know, have been tax-exempt. Anyway, they're...
The fire assessment's not a tax, though. That's important to note. Just like there are other facilities that are also tax-exempt that are required to... For stormwater management and for other impacts. But I can get with the city attorney and we can talk about it.
What's
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Annual
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What is it? $132.88 for last year.
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I'll be
happy to take a look at it with the city manager and see if there's anything that needs to be addressed this year. If it can be addressed at all.
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know, for the next year's role, that's something that our fire assessment consultant can take a look at and advise us within the range of our fire assessment model that he's put together that we rely on and will be relying on again this evening with respect to the fire assessment bonds that the
council is
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going to consider approving.
Gina, can you make sure you have... John has your number so you guys can talk back and forth? Yes,
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I just... Yeah, I'm just... This is the body that created that, and this is the body that has to make it go away. So that's what I'm asking you to do, is make it go away.
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Okay.
Good.
Thank you.
Thank
you. And so I hope that I don't have to see you again.
Is there contact information on there, on the card?
Let's make sure that you leave us your contact information. Yeah. Ma'am, and we'll take a look at it. Gina, that's the best we can do right now, but we're going to
fix it. It's just the government way of fixing it, the long way. Thank you. Okay.
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everybody feels that this is... Yeah.
It
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seems
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You're going to do it legally, so that way it's done, too. Okay.
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Well, thank you very much. Thank you. Thanks for coming. Thank you.
Okay. All right. So that's it for cards.
‸ Thank
you.
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You okay? Super attorney, you'll be able to handle that? Yes, sir. Okay. ‸ We will look at it. Okay. Yeah, good. Good. All right.
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Any opposed? Okay. Public hearings. Anthony, here
we
go.
Use the buttons. Only public hearing this evening is ordinance 14-2016, an ordinance of the City Council of the City of Cocoa, Brevard County, Florida, changing the zoning map designations of one
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located at 825 Forest Avenue in Cocoa, Florida. More
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institutional providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolution severability and an effective date. This is second and final reading of this ordinance, which is also quasi-judicial staff and the LPA, PNZ recommending approval.
Mayor. Okay. Okay.
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Go to the audience. Anybody like to speak on this ordinance? This
reason
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What would you like to do?
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Aye. Any opposed? Okay. That's good. Okay. Council Business.
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Yes, sir. This is to consider the reappointment of Mr. Russell Single, Mr. Todd Anderson, Mr. Jack Morris, regular members of the Planning and Zoning Board through November 2019.
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All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Anybody here from there?
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All right. Anthony? Okay. The next item is a resolution officially recognizing and declaring a vacancy in seat one of the city council. Pursuant to Article 3, Section
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filling that vacancy. As the council is aware, back in June of 2016, former councilman Blake resigned to run for the house seat in this November. Since the last city council meeting, that resignation has become effective November 1. As a result, this resolution is now being presented to you to formally declare and recognize that vacancy, which now triggers the charter provision that places a duty on the city council to attempt to appoint somebody to fill seat one during the next two regular city council meetings. Based on the current schedule of the council, those two next regular council meetings after this resolution is approved by
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if the council approves this resolution,
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that this seat is vacant and that the council will attempt to fill that vacancy pursuant to city charter. The deadline to
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Those applications will then be forwarded to the city council. The process that's being recommended is the same process that the council adopted when former councilman Furbish passed away.
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of situation. We intend to use those forms and application in the same way
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happy to answer any questions.
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When do we have an end point?
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It's almost three weeks.
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first year?
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And that would be the first opportunity that the council will have to make an appointment. The applications will be submitted by the 28th, so you'll have them for approximately two weeks to evaluate before you all meet on the 13th.
Now, if we do appoint somebody
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same evening as the... Right. We do the end.
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Correct.
I
mean, if the council appointed somebody on the 13th, I would assume that the council would swear them in at the very end of that meeting
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Same process.
I'm with me,
yeah.
Yeah, I'm for the same process we did before. And let me give you a couple of reasons. Number one is if you hold a special election, obviously it's ‸ taxpayer money. On an off day, whatever we pick, it will, you know, be 20 grand to do it. And ‸ it might be, it's an off time election, which means you might have 25 people and 26 people. But
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We've been doing this a long time. And you want to run for the seat in two years, run and duke it out. That's ‸ how it's built, on a governor's race. Right, Brenda? Or tomorrow, a presidential race. I mean, those are the optimum times to run. So as far as appointment, I'd rather do what we did with Jerry and let's take applications. Who's scared of that? Nobody? Let's have
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come in and do the same thing and do it on 13th.
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The agenda item is presented for approval of the resolution as stated.
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All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay.
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get those applications in. Yep. If
you
live in District 1.
Yep. And okay, move to city business.
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Yes, Mr. Mayor, members of council. The item you have is to approve a resolution number 2016-119, amending and restating resolution 2016-45 in its entirety,
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Fire Protection Assessment Revenue Bonds Series 2016 to finance a portion of the cost of the acquisition and construction of three new fire station facilities and other equipment related to fire protection and suppression services, and authorizing city manager to sign all contracts and documents related to
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The mayor and council, this is no different than what we just went through a couple weeks ago with the
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refunding of our capital improvement bonds from 2007, with the exception, in this case, we are pledging our fire assessment revenues. The ‸ fire assessment revenues have been the fire assessment has been in place since fiscal year ‸ the end of fiscal year 2007.
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With regard to the three fire stations to date, if you recall,
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We spent about $1.3 million of that to date for ‸ land acquisition. And with the anticipated borrowing, less some of the
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So with that and ‸ the total project
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the land, surveying, environmental site ‸ assessment activities, actually even be doing some clean environmental cleanup on one of the sites, the Brunson Avenue site, as well as engineering architectural costs. I know ‸ last time when we did the presentation on the
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refunding, our financial advisor was able to come and share with us the good news of where we were in terms of the rating that we ‸ received that evening. We actually do not have a rating agency call until Wednesday. So we're approving these documents in advance of the rating agency call.
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And then we would be ‸ closing on the final closing on December 13th for those bonds. So with that, again, the bonds are for the purposes of constructing the three fire stations. ‸ The revenue being pledged is the fire assessment. There is no covenant to budget and appropriate, you know, other ‸ funds other than the fire assessment.
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would like to recognize ‸ the bond councils in-house as well as a representative, one of the managing directors from Stiefel, the underwriters.
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Yes, other item. It is? I'm sorry.
Okay.
But we will be bringing back I mean, we'll be bringing back at the next meeting the ‸ bids for the ‸ remaining two
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We do have
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Okay. Okay. And motion to approve.
Second.
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okay. Or you need something else, John. No.
All right. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. ‸ It is a date hurdle. That's good.
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Mr. Mayor, this is council approval for a new mutual aid agreement with
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We've had a mutual aid agreement with them since 1994, so we're just updating it. Agreements like this should be looked at on a regular basis. So what this will do is we're upgrading or updating the mutual aid response areas, which is basically
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city
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They have old maps in there.
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Rockledge approval, which they're taking it, the first meeting in December. And then it would automatically renew for three one-year terms after that unless terminated by either party according to the agreement.
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Motion to approve.
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Okay. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
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Steve?
Yes. Thank you, Mayor.
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sewer impact fee waiver in the amount of $50,000 or some other form of local government contribution for a proposed low-income housing tax credit rental project called The Point at London Cove. On October 27, 2016, PICERN and I believe I'm pronouncing that correctly submitted a proposal to the city for
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local government contribution in the amount of $50,000. As required
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The
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Generally located west of intersection of State Road 524 and Industry Road located across from Coventry subdivision. The total development
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approximately $15,750,000.
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size, and 36 three-bedroom units, each approximately 1,325 square feet in size for a total of 84 units. Of the 84 units, as per Florida Housing ‸ Finance Corporation requirements, 10% of the units will serve extremely low-income households, of which 5% or 5 of the units, which equates to 50% of the ELI units, will serve the developmentally disabled and special needs population. So, basically 75 units will be at 60% AMI, and the remaining nine units will be at 35%. If City Council were desirous to consider a sewer impact fee waiver, such action shall require the affirmative vote of at least four members of Council in accordance with Resolution 98-2, which was approved on January 13, 1998.
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water and sewer system improvement revenue bonds to establish different rate classes and a reduction and waiver of rates, fees, charges, and assessments under limited circumstances.
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which was made by the City to the City's water and sewer bond holders. The covenants must be strictly adhered to by the City and enforced. Now,
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in very limited circumstances, the City to reduce or waive the imposition of any rates, fees, charges, or assessments for individual users located within the City limits of any component or components of the water and sewer system, if the City determines and finds that it is in the best interest of the health, safety, and general welfare of its citizens to grant such reduction or waiver. Specifically, the covenant requires that the waiver or reduction of such rates, fees, charges, or assessments will require prior findings of Council that, one, such action will result in a substantial increase in the City's tax base or offer additional jobs to the citizens of the City, and,
two,
such action will not impair the City's ability to meet the covenants
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the resolution, and such action shall require an affirmative vote of at least four members of ‸ Council. On a previous and fairly recently round of low-income housing tax credit applications and similar project,
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focused on senior housing, with a 5% set-aside to serve developmentally disabled and special needs. Staff would submit, conditions within our community have not materially changed, and there are still a substantial number of attainable housing choices within ‸ our community. Moreover, it has long been identified that the City needs to attract a diversity of housing choices, with an emphasis on market rate
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to stabilize local housing market conditions. All new development projects are required to pay a variety of different impact fees in accordance with applicable City codes. Impact fees are uniformly applied.
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legitimate government policy supporting the issuance of a waiver. While the developers provided the attachment in support of their request, staff does not feel at this time
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developers have provided sufficient information and data in a timely manner to allow for City staff to adequately evaluate the propriety of the developer's proposal.
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And with regard to the findings City Council must take, City staff does not believe
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and permanent jobs created would not be significant. Moreover, in all likelihood, the only jobs created would be temporary construction jobs, assuming the
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And regarding the second finding, staff believes approving the request would not impair the City's ability to meet the covenants and the enabling resolution, but approval would require the affirmative vote, as stated before, of at least four members of Council. Well, that'll turn it back to, I believe, City Manager has additional information. The applicant is here with a presentation that they would like to provide to Council as well.
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Mayor, I'd just like to
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everyone for taking the time to listen to our presentation. I'll try and make this ‸ brief. So again, our proposal here is for the point at London Cove. We are requesting a $50,000 impact fee waiver from
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And again, this is to satisfy our requirement in order to put in an application for low income housing tax credits to
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Just a little bit about the CERN. We're a privately owned real estate firm. We've been around for a little over 90 years now. We have four regional offices. We have our own management company, our own development company, and our own general contractor. So we own, manage, and build all of the developments that we currently do own. And our Florida office is the one that specializes in affordable housing.
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management. Again, we've been doing affordable housing development for about 30 years.
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And again, everything under ‸ one roof. And
again, everything under
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The benefits ‸ that ‸ we can bring to
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we're estimating roughly three quarters of a million dollars that would be brought to the city.
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three to four permanent jobs that we'd be bringing as well, as well as
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abatements or pilots. We do pay full property taxes. So again, ‸ we'd be bringing ‸ brand new quality, affordable housing to the ‸ local area. Again, in our ‸ practices, ‸ we've seen a lot of these residents simply, you know, the ones that are living locally that move into our developments. The example being our point at Merritt Street development that's currently under construction in Altamont Springs. We were 50% leased within six weeks of just simply putting up signage ‸ in the area. So what we find is that it really truly is, you know, brand new quality, affordable housing. It's for the residents in the area, not moving from outside of the area.
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of what affordable housing is. Again, a rent burdened resident is somebody who's paying more than 30%. But I do think this is pretty important. What we found from the Florida housing data clearinghouse,
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of
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of Cocoa are rent burdened.
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But when you're looking at residents that we're looking
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more are actually paying 77% or there are 77% of those individuals paying more than 30% of their income. So we find that quite a few residents out here are rent burdened. And I think this is a good graphic to really kind of take a look at and see.
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see, you know, the vast majority of their income is taken up by housing with little else to pay for ‸ health care, food, transportation, and the like versus families that are able to live in affordable housing. You can see that their money can go quite a bit further. So, again, I'll kind of skip through this just because I know I want to I'll try and keep it brief. It's just kind of more information on Florida housing in general, who we typically serve as 60% of area median income with 10% being at the extremely low income or at 40% of the area median income. This kind of just gives you a quick idea of the incomes for the area and the rent amounts that the individuals would be paying. And I'll go ahead and skip forward just to the information about our site in general just so I can kind of at least attempt to keep it within the five minutes.
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our management company.
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Commons located here. And then this is our site plan, what we'd be looking to do. Townhomes, two-story development with my
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because some of the data in
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was related to Brevard County versus Cocoa in specific. We
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there's a total of 8,500, almost 8,600 housing units in the city of Cocoa,
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about 1,459 that are currently vacant.
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that are compared to 4.8 for homeowners. And then the other item I
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with regard to what the city needs to do in terms of trying to stabilize its local housing market.
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have, what, 682 Section 8 vouchers in the city, public housing units,
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And at some point in time, the city has certainly taken on more than its fair share of affordable, attainable workforce, ‸ whatever the name of the day is,
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And, you know, and we're working hard, you know, between, you know, code enforcement, the you know, public safety, to stabilize our community and prevent the future, you know, spread of slum and blight. And I think by adding more of, you know, additional extremely low income and low income would be contrary to what we're trying to do in terms of stabilizing our local housing market.
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of which I might add
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And one of the major negotiation points was the ability for us to do low and moderate income housing on that property. And we went back and forth for a long period of time on that because we know that we have to at some point in time, we have to have a variety of incomes, you know, levels, you know, in terms of housing choices. We cannot just be the one, you know, destination in Brevard County for low income housing. We clearly have an abundance and, you know, a more than a fair share of attainable housing within our community.
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supply. We already have two low income housing tax credit projects ‸ in the city, a third one that's underway. And I don't think the conditions have changed, as was indicated in the staff report, whereby, you know, the markets become so much more restrictive to, you know, low income housing buyers in our city because, I mean, they're getting vouchers from,
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county, from Titusville, from other locations and
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So I think ‸ there's a fair amount of supply and I would still submit to you that the city needs to continue to strive to maintain or try to achieve a balance because going back to those properties in Diamond Square I just regained my thought
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organization and
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number that we've been
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So, ‸ you know, the introduction or the inclusion or ‸ building of more low income units is not going to strengthen that market. It's going to further undermine. I mean,
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Again, according to the Census Bureau, there's still ‸ 12.8 percent vacancy rate, you know, for rentals and 46.2 percent of our, you know, our residents are rental
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I came up with a number it's slightly less than at least the Census Bureau has a number of slightly less
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you know, in terms of their monthly owner costs of a as a percentage of the household income. For those less than 30 percent, it's 60 almost 61 percent. So there's still a large portion that are
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don't think that factor in of itself is substantial. And then with regard to the comments about the
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fees, the impact fees are not a
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The impact fees are paying for their impact for the development the impact to the water system, the impact to the water to the to the ‸ water system, to the wastewater system. That system's there in place to serve future development, and they're paying an impact fee to pay for their fair share for the impact, you know, to that.
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You know, a similar project you know, at the end of the day, I think they estimate
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It's been our experience my experience in the almost 15 years with the city that when it hits the tax roll,
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is. So you're looking at far less.
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Walmart distribution center
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around that 1 percent mark is not substantial. And then there's so I would just leave it at that. I don't think it meets ‸ the prongs in terms of as it relates to it would not be a substantial increase in the city's tax base. And I don't believe that the jobs that are offered are consistent with the spirit of the ordinance that would provide for a waiver because, again, you were talking I
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And I there was those are
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They're not high-paying, you know, value-added type jobs. You would see construction jobs and there's no assurances that those construction jobs would be Cocoa residents. And I'll return to council. Those are my thoughts.
‸ I would agree with the city manager. I don't believe we need any more low-income housing.
We
have plenty as it is now. And District 3 is coming to go up, and if we're going to have
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We have plenty of affordable housing left as it is now. We don't need any more to make them empty, is what you're saying, correct?
No. ‸ Actually, I'm not saying that there's just low-income housing available in Diamond Square.
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I'm not
saying it should be located in one area or another.
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we have a fair, you know, inventory of low-income housing that's attained for ‸ residents that want to attain housing.
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the other two projects, John? Where are they located?
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sewer and
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That's located ‸ just across the street and south of the cemetery,
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It's got about 120 units, of which more than half of it ‸ is low-income or extremely low-income, I believe.
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That's correct.
‸ Okay.
And the other one, it's I believe it was originally low-income housing tax credit project. I'm not certain, but I know we had to for those that have been on for a while, we had to do ‸ there was a TEFRA hearing because they were refinancing it under a low-income housing program, and that is the
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is off of Michigan. Right. You know, as soon as you go across the railroad tracks, you take that first left, there's a vacant land there. There's Cocoa
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that have Section 8, you know, vouchers.
Okay. And that's also a completed
project?
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That's correct, and that's ‸ focused on elderly. Elderly. Correct. Yes.
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Well, I've always been an advocate for affordable housing, which is why I spent seven years serving on the county's Affordable Housing Council. And for that seven years and
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its fair share of low-income and affordable housing, not necessarily new stuff. But one of the things I learned while sitting on the Affordable Housing Council ‸ that what always works best is a mixture of market rate and low-income. So I am hesitant to ever vote to approve a development that is strictly low-income, that does not have a combination of market rate and
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the
one on Clear Lake, which was a senior, to me that was a little bit different. It also took five or six years to get that project approved and started. ‸ I would love to see some great projects. But one of the things that we are sadly
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apartments. I mean, we just, we don't. We have low-income apartments, pretty much, or apartments where a lot of the units are Section 8. We just don't have some really nice market rate apartments around here. I have family who really wants to move to Cocoa and they can't find a house in their price range. They can find a really, really low-income house,
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We don't have anything. If we don't start concentrating our efforts in those areas, we're never going to see our housing improve.
So
I just can't, like I said, if it was a combination of low-income and market rate, I would be more inclined to ‸ be in favor of it. But ‸ I just can't in good conscience. Plus, that area out there for low-income people, normally they really need public transportation and, you know, some other amenities that they just don't have good access to in that area. I
mean,
we've got, you
know,
buses that run Clear Lake Road, but the bus service out there is very limited and, you know, it's just not a—I don't think it's necessarily a convenient area for people of low income ‸ who may not have their own method of transportation. So I just—I'm sorry, it just doesn't appeal to me in that sense. So I'm going ‸ to ‸ have to say no, which if I'm saying no, it doesn't matter how the rest of you vote because it takes a four.
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No, I mean, ‸ we have too much, and I can't blame anybody for coming here wanting to put more in. But as far as I'm concerned, you know,
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know,
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The citizens want less of it, honestly, and have more middle-class
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county,
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And I don't know why we get this barrage of people coming in. ‸ I'm not mad at these guys, these companies coming in trying to do this. This is on our growth corridor, you know, and I'm sure the owner probably wants to sell it, but that's a growth corridor that's ‸ exploding right now.
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you know, there's a lot of folks out there that would not like that. And we're looking to reduce it, so I'm not for it.
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Call the question. Was
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All right. All in favor?
Aye.
Any opposed? Good. Okay. That's it. Thank you for coming.
There's one more item. Yeah. Yep.
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‸ for a Department of Homeland Security assistance firefighters grant to purchase mobile data, computers, ‸ software to improve the appropriate distance
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dispatch to dispatch
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units and capture critical information during and after emergency responses. The grant we're looking at would be for about 105,000 requires a 5% city match, which would be about $5,250. All right. Glad to answer any questions if you have them.
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All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay.
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Anybody
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drive, Friday's the last day, for applications in the city clerk's office. And all the, one more thing, the interlocals passed all councils for the sharing of the employee health center, Satellite Beach, Cocoa Beach, and Rockledge.
Say it again.
The interlocal agreement for sharing of the health center passed all the other councils. So it's ‸ going to be executed now. Great. So
we'll keep this posted. Is there going to be any kind of ceremony down the road?
It's probably going to be January, maybe February.
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probably wait till ‸ Satellite Beach opens up their clinic, or their employee health center, and then kind of do something on that.
Yeah. Samantha's planning a press release ‸ that we're coordinating with the other cities.
Right. That's great. OK. Thank you.
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OK, good. Steve?
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requesting some relief ‸ assistance in her lien that she ‸ received a
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We gave her until the end of October to make the payment. She did come in to our office well before that and ‸ made her final payment. So she
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That's good. Yep. And also, ‸ if you're not aware, the 12th is the KBB Riverfest event in Riverfront Park. And there's a country concert, three music acts, with the headliner being John Michael Montgomery on stage.
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So there'll be three acts.
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things for the kids, food vendors, all kinds of activities. So I just want to let everybody know about that.
Great.
And that's it.
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Yeah. Heck yeah. Okay.
People will get Jack up there.
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Mr. Mayor, ‸ firefighters started their turkey dinner program this year. We started on
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for the next couple of weeks.
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about 85 or 86 so far. And we'll be handing those out on the 21st in the afternoon. So anybody who wants to donate a frozen turkey, we'd be glad to get one. Thank you.
Thank you. Chief Callen?
No report, sir.
Chair?
No report.
Thank you. Ed? Short report, sir. Sure. Our staff met with management of waste management today. They've come to us with a request to modify some of their routes. They want to switch some of our approximately 1,300 residential routes from Monday, Thursday pickup to Tuesday, Friday pickup for better service. The change would take effect December 5th. And the areas impacted would be College Manor, basically north of Dixon Boulevard, and west of US-1, and south of 524.
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the Range Road area, College Green, and that area out towards the west. And their days would change to Tuesday, Friday. The residents will be getting a postcard so they'll know and expect to make the change December 5th. Just wanted to give Council a heads up. Okay. Especially certain people in those districts.
Right.
That's it.
Okay. Very good. Anything more on the bridge situation out there?
They're working on it. I have not heard when they're going to be done.
Man,
they're
still sandblasting that thing.
Yeah, I see the little rust particles come up on the sides. Yeah. They're still working on it.
About 3.30 in the morning, you hear it. Yeah. Okay. Thank
you. Super Attorney. ‸ Just one item. I'd like to introduce Kristen and Mike, who is one of our new attorneys,
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She started with our firm and will be working with me and representing the good interests of the city of Cocoa. Wow.
Welcome.
yeah
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Nice ‸ to meet you.
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Yeah. Super Attorney. That's it. Okay.
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and then the lighting in Lee Winter Park. The permit's been issued and I think they've already got some of the lights up and running. Right. And they're working on the remainder. Right.
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the repairs to the TDoc and so we're certainly hopeful that they're going to get done prior to the sale to the Sun Rally.
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As well
as the signage for the reservation
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all the wood being replaced on the boardwalk. It's good. It's really good.
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‸ There's a permit that's been pulled and they're working on it. Okay. Okay. On a sadder note, I know many of you received notice. We had two near and dear friends to the city of Coco. One a volunteer, one a former employee, both long time. Hank Rowan worked 21 years for the city ‸ and guided us through procurement. ‸ He was a dedicated and faithful public servant and equally a dedicated and faithful husband and father. And he passed. And so it's with heavy hearts, you know, for those of us that do Hank and work with them, that we share that with you. And then many of you have also worked with Andy Klutz, you know, a former VCOP, who also passed this, you know, this weekend. And I think the chief has sent out ‸ the information regarding ‸ the funeral arrangements. So I just wanted to make sure everybody was aware of that.
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Okay. Yes.
Yeah,
I
still have the ‸ crud from the dunk tank. I want to thank everybody ‸ for coming out at Fall Festival. I especially want
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as the Umbrella Group One Church with all the local churches that work together
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And to and one, you know, being in unity and celebrating. And ‸ all the kids, I think, had a great time.
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Well, also the kids, too. But it just but then again, I don't think anybody envied some of us that were sitting in that cold dunk tank.
So
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I saw several people doing it.
It just made it in there.
But you you
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You talk to me now about that.
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I don't want to mention any names, but as Matt said, somebody that specializes in fire suppression.
Uh-huh. That's
right.
But it
raised money for the for our food drive, so that was good. You know, plus the kids had a good time.
Oh,
yeah.
I saw it on Facebook. I saw the ice. They posted that. Man.
Good. I had a little bit more insulation than somebody else.
That's funny. Anything else?
That was it, Mr. Mayor. Thank you.
Okay. Okay.
Okay, great. Um, I guess we're just
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Um, I think the the fall festival was a huge success. I mean, the turnout was phenomenal. I think everyone down there just I mean, I would listen to people talking, and they were having such a good time. The kids enjoyed it. Um, it just it just came together, you know, for the families, and, um, judging the contest was so much fun.
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It was
hard, but it was fun. Um, seeing all those little children with the smiles on their faces, and, um, and I also just want to say one thing. Uh, if you haven't voted yet, vote tomorrow. It's our civic duty, and we're blessed to be in a country where we have the right to vote, so please vote.
That's true. That's it? That's it. Thank you.
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turkeys tomorrow for the fire department. Um, Chief Cantaloupe, he would like you to send somebody by to pick up the 10 or 15 boxes of stuff he has to
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so he can make room for everything he's doing for his neighborhood Thanksgiving dinner, so, um, which, um, I have been recruited to help cook for,
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uh, so thanks to Leisure Services staff and
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who worked so hard to do that.
And Larry Sinclair that donated. Very kind.
Oh, and, uh, Mr. Sinclair who donated, um, two grocery carts full of, uh, food so that, uh, people could, uh, dunk the city manager for free. Um, I think there was a solid hour of dunking into the ice pit on Mr. Sinclair, who's very very proud of his accomplishment. Okay. Getting, although he was not expecting the ice in the dunk tank. When I showed him the picture of that, it was a big surprise. So, he had nothing to do. I don't know who put the ice in your dunk tank, but Mr. Sinclair was not behind that, Mr. City Manager. I just want you to know. Yeah,
I,
I thought I saw somebody from Leisure Services. It was real nice of you not to throw that employee under the bus. Which, uh.
John
took it pretty well. Yeah, he did with, um, very large coolers full of ice that were going in.
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next year. It was so, so good. Um, the costume contest is probably the hardest thing, um,
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it's harder than any decision we ever make up here is deciding who deserves to win that costume contest. There was some absolutely amazing costumes, um, this year. And I know it'll be even better next year.
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Yeah. Entered? Yeah. Yeah. So that's tough.
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all those kids. But some of them are just so creative that, uh, they really stand out. So thanks to everybody who came out, especially the church members who came out and, uh, assisted. They were all great. Did a wonderful job.
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And that's it for me, Mr. Mayor.
Yeah. Is it? I'm all done. Okay. Um, I
had
a question. Well, we have a, we're gonna host
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Yeah. Any idea what we have for entertainment?
No. We're working on that right now.
Well, we're gonna, we're gonna bring an open mic for you, Mr. Mayor. Yeah. No, just kidding. We're working on it.
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to say to a few of the cities. I still appreciate. ‸ What about
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Oh, man.
Okay, well, we gotta think of something. Yeah. That's why I brought it up. Maybe
we can get ‸ in and
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Maybe. Yeah. That's a good idea.
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So, so,
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put in a call to a few people. Um, if you wanna ‸ get with
me, we can brainstorm, though, if you have any ideas.
Cocoa Puffs.
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It's, um, ‸ something unique. Okay. They're unique. Yeah. I'll come in tomorrow. They're very unique. They're talented. I know, right? It's true. All right.
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I'm worried about that. We're gonna, you
know,
we can call them, because last year they go, man, we can't believe you came up with some entertainment. Um, we were gonna help you. So, we can call them and see if there's anything.
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good job last year. Yeah.
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You know, we can, we can have a speaker or somebody, and then have a little fun, you know.
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Yeah. Actually, they're one of the ones that we're in contact with right now.
Okay.
So.
All right. Well, I'll talk to you tomorrow. Okay. And then the
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four years. Everybody? Yeah. Yeah. It's been a really good four years. And, um, I appreciate.
This could be your
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meeting. Yeah. Yeah. You know. You're
really encouraging them.
Let me say something, let me say something Tyler would say.
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Democrats. Yeah.
But, um, let me just say this, because I'll be very, very blunt and clear.
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ah, you know, if it's, you know, you put a good four years in, and you can move on. But I did, I did put my name in. ‸ You know, I did commit. And, uh, I'm looking for good things tomorrow evening. So, to, uh, I just want to let everybody know that tomorrow, after seven o'clock, we're going to be at Ryan's Pizza. Uh, the whole team. And, uh, invite everybody to come down and just, you know, have a nice tea with us or a beer. Okay.
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coverage. And we're going to
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just wait, after you're done. Oh, ‸ okay.
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‸ individually. I got a lot of texting tonight to do. But let's, um, make this, you know, whatever it is, is a, um, a nice event.
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working with everybody. Uh, I know I do things a little differently than most people, but I think the performance of the city and getting on, back on track and all the things we've done has made a difference.
And
so tomorrow will be, instead of we, we, we, you know, you know, us,
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going to be my report card, either good or bad. And I'm, I'm acceptance, I'm accepting, accepting of anything it is, but whatever it is. But I believe we're on the right track. Uh, I think most of the citizens that talked to me in the last couple of weeks
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we're on the right track and everybody knows it. So we're going to move, we're going to move forward. John, what
do
you got?
Uh, I just want to congratulate, you know, you, you, you, for thanking Councilwoman Warner for her very uplifting encouragement, you know, for you. Wow, man. I think Rockledge High brings her in during the halftime to give him a halftime speech to kind of get him going. But congratulations to Coco High for the 11th year in a row, beating
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we certainly wish
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well. This is their 100th, you know, year anniversary, their centennial. So it would be nice to see if they could bring back a state championship during the centennial.
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They only lost to that one team
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But, you know, it's getting to be just a, no big deal beating South Cocoa, you know what
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We may have to suit Pat
up out there as like an obstacle, I don't know. You know, the kids are good. They're really good,
you know.
And nobody knows this, when Rockledge won the two in a row, they had seven kids, or nine kids from Cocoa playing with them. So, you're welcome. And it's
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Yeah, that's right.
Yeah. Gee, I wonder if that, having a home stadium made any difference at all in the football program at Cocoa High.
Everybody knows it,
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Yeah.
But seriously, think about it. After the stadium was built, the ‸ program started to improve. They got new coaches,
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and then, yeah. Ben's over here. Ben's
over here. But
yeah, ‸ I think it has made a difference, not just in the quality of the program, which of course comes from the kids and the coaches, but I think in ‸ the pride that they feel of having a home field, and ‸ not having to play their home games in another city, has made a difference too. So, I'm real glad we did that.
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Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings; a language review questioned the wording · 01:09:32–01:09:37 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
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Yeah.
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Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings; the recognizer flagged its own output; a language review questioned the wording · 01:09:38–01:09:48 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
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say?
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Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings; the recognizer flagged its own output · 01:09:49–01:09:55 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
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Flag: the recognizer flagged its own output · 01:09:56–01:09:57 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
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Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 01:09:57–01:09:58 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Don't
worry about
it.
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Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings; the recognizer flagged its own output · 01:10:01–01:10:18 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
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Right, John?
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Flag: the recognizer flagged its own output; a language review questioned the wording; numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 01:10:19–01:10:36 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
Wow. That's good.
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Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 01:10:37–01:10:44 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
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Is that what the name?
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Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings · 01:10:45–01:10:46 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
whatever.
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Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings; a language review questioned the wording · 01:10:47–01:10:51 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
life, snow cones, but they had a ball.
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party. They had four teachers, and they were having a ball. So we told them, next time we have an event, we'll make sure we contact them. They can come down and help.
So
it
worked out good. They were all very appreciative of the effort for the police department. And they look at me and go,
oh, you're the deputy mayor.
I go, no, I just wear this shirt, ‸ you know, just for the heck of it.
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Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings; a language review questioned the wording · 01:11:21–01:11:26 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
You were busy. I
was busy. Yep. That's why I'm your deputy mayor.
Keep
working.
That's
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Okay.
Motion to adjourn.
Yep.
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Flag: numbers, amounts, negation or names differ between the machine readings; the recognizer flagged its own output · 01:11:36–01:11:38 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Thank you.
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Flag: words only one machine reading has (possibly not said); the recognizer flagged its own output · 01:11:43–01:11:46 · unresolved: the words are not shown (unclear audio); listen to the recording
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